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Failure to resolve Asylum Seeker Impasse reflects dire state of Australian Politics

June 27, 2012

source: UNHCR

In the wake of the latest asylum seeker tragedy and with news that another boat has capsised off the coast of Christmas Island with one person dead, it would be easy to conclude that we are in the midst of an onslaught, nay invasion of asylum seekers.

That’s certainly what the Coalition would like us to believe particularly if you listen to the likes of Tony Abbott, George Brandis and Scott Morrison.

The media is also complicit in ramping up the hysteria as if somehow, our entire way of life is under threat.

The response, from both sides of politics has been appalling.

With complete disregard for our international obligations, the Coalition’s unashamed approaching to asylum seekers is to not having them arrive here in the first place, and by any means necessary they’d like to have them shipped back, turned around, incarserated indefinitely (or at the very least for a lengthy period of suitable “punishment”) and preferably in some god forsaken hellhole far away from the shores of Australia as possible.

Meanwhile Labor, in its race to reach the moral low-ground is determined to push its own “hell on Earth” policy offloading asylum seekers to Malaysia where the face the prospect of corporal punishment, sex abuse and torture.

The fact that this debate continues to rage amid the hysteria and scaremongering of asylum seekers reflects the disgraceful state of politics in this country.

The government moved hell on Earth to protect the health and wellbeing of cattle exported to Indonesia. 

If only they held the same concern and sense of urgency to help people in desperate and dangerous circumstances.

 

 

 

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37 Comments leave one →
  1. el gordo permalink
    June 27, 2012 5:15 pm

    Watched Talcum in parliament, lecturing without notes, impressive. Too bad he’s a dill.

  2. June 27, 2012 5:33 pm

    Talcum is who ‘reasonable’ ALP adherents are waiting for.

    But they’re shit out of luck. He ain’t coming! He’ll be hamstrung by affiliation with the panty pissing conservatards.

  3. Tony permalink
    June 27, 2012 5:38 pm

    Turnbull’s a Bolshevik plant. 😯

  4. June 27, 2012 5:42 pm

    Yep.

    The dark siders like him for a reason! 😉

    In other news, Richmond are getting a belting this Saturday

  5. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2012 6:01 pm

    Why don’t WE look for answers instead of taking partisan stands … how would WE help asylum seekers and refugees?

    Just trying to summarise what we have … (a Nominal Group Technique (NGT) – individual brainstorming and then combine ideas)

    1. Asylum seekers and refugees will always want to come here (they are NOT migrants, nor are tey illegal).

    2. They often come from the countries our ADF is/has been deployed to.

    3. The reality is that asylum seekers/refugees (AS/R) have difficulty in our region reaching Australia through official channels. ie UNHCR offices

    4. It does seem that we need a co-ordinated regional approach.

    5. There will always be some AS/R who will attempt to reach Australia themselves (you have got to admire their courage (especially if you’ve sailed the Indian Ocean)

    6. We need to increase our population BUT we also need skilled people not people who would be a welfare “burden”.

    7. Maybe we need TWO methods of assessment an offshore and an onshore method …

    8. Offshore for men

    9. Onshore for women and children

    10. If a family turns up at an offshore assessment facility and applies for asylum then they can have the choice … they stay together, or are split and the women and children are shipped to Australia and the men remain.

    Just some ideas …

    … I’d like to keep it simple and politics free …

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2012 6:03 pm

    … and the men remain and are assessed offshore by Australian officers …

  7. James of North Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2012 6:03 pm

    Shit. I really was channelling TB!! 😯

  8. June 27, 2012 6:07 pm

    Maybe if the ADF & others stayed the fuck out of their countries, there’d be less people fleeing?

    I don’t see how forcing military age males to fight is any different to conscription here?! 😯
    Noone should be forced to kill. Period.

  9. June 27, 2012 6:08 pm

    I have tremendous sympathy for anyone fleeing conflict not of their choosimg. Gender has fuck all to do with it & noone is forcing young Australian males to enlist.

  10. James of North Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2012 6:27 pm

    Fuck me. Possum on Twitter is already sledging Morrison for offering to raise refugee intake. Fuckwit.

  11. June 27, 2012 6:28 pm

    I quite like points 8 & 9 of TB’s immigration policy.

  12. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2012 6:41 pm

    Apparently the asylum seekers in Java will be fully informed about the “Malaysian Solution” and will make an informed decision not to travel to Australia. That’s the rationale.

    But the humble fishermen in exactly the same location are unable to comprehend the significant penalties for people smuggling. So goes the other part of the rationale.

    I think a starting point is conducting an intensive effort to ensure the humble fishermen are aware of the long terms of imprisonment for people smuggling.

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2012 6:54 pm

    Your emotions are getting in the way, HD, I’m talking about ALL males not just Afghani men …

  14. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2012 6:56 pm

    … ensure the humble fishermen are aware of the long terms of imprisonment for people smuggling

    I agree, ToM, but they need a better way to make a buck … and is it the fishermen or the “smugglers” that need targetting …

  15. James of North Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2012 7:00 pm

    ADF not in Sri Lanka, Iran, China…

  16. June 27, 2012 7:05 pm

    Where did I specify Afghanistan?

    I don’t see how forcing military age males to fight is any different to conscription here?! 😯 Noone should be forced to kill. Period.

    None of us truly understands persecution or volatile government.

    Why the gender bias. I thought we were ‘equal’? This isn’t the fucking Titanic sinking…& I bet they locked the poor women & children belowdecks with the men then anyway.

  17. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2012 7:09 pm

    I don’t see how forcing military age males to fight is any different to conscription here?!

    Then I hope someone here will explain it to you … FYI, I would pick up a rifle tomorrow and even come down to South Australia to defend my country … but as I did in 1970 I object to fighting other people’s wars … especially the USA’s!

    And a reminder the ADF is sent they don’t choose …

  18. June 27, 2012 7:17 pm

    No, but they do choose to enlist.

    I wouldn’t piss on Queensland. I’ll kill when there is a direct threat on my doorstep.

    I don’t do hive-dying.

    As far as I’m concerned, a war in the next town is “other people’s wars”.

    I realise that this likely won’t compute with the majority.

    I will never subborn myself as a soldier but would be the world’s best subversive guerilla…on my terms.

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2012 7:25 pm

    I will never subborn myself as a soldier but would be the world’s best subversive guerilla…on my terms.</i.

    I know you listen to funny music, HD, but you must get out of them funny books … do you not learn from Game of Thrones, brother!

    United we … divided we …

  20. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2012 7:26 pm

    BTW, HD, how do you think the ADF “works” … they don’t line up in red jackets and fire front rank, rear rank …

  21. June 27, 2012 7:52 pm

    I’m not silly, TB. I just arrive at different conclusions. 😉

    Funny books? It may surprise you to learn that I read/have read a lot of the same miltary history books by the same authors that you have read. I blame Dad. He had me reading The Rise & Fall of The Third Reich by age 12 (?) [William Shirer]. He was in the CMF to avoid conscription & would have been a conscientious objector had his marble rolled.

    War is an ass. One sided wars that are sold to us are worse. I am the eternal pessimist & I will not kill for the notions of others. 🙂

  22. Tony permalink
    June 27, 2012 8:02 pm

    The answer is to stop running the Australian Tourism ads on Brown Peeplz TVs. They’re clearly to blame for the increased level of inquiry.

  23. James of North Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2012 8:03 pm

    Sorry Toilet, I’m with TB. If it wasn’t for alliances there would be three superpowers today, Russia, Japan, and Nazi Germany. None of them benevolent.

  24. June 27, 2012 8:04 pm

    Don’t be sorry…but you & TB are no more an oracle than I am…& your alternative endings are supposition.

  25. June 27, 2012 8:05 pm

    BTW, the US is hardly ‘benevolent’.

  26. el gordo permalink
    June 27, 2012 9:14 pm

    ‘US is hardly ‘benevolent’.’

    No, but they are big fans of democracy and that can’t be a bad thing.

  27. James of North Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2012 9:45 pm

    Old mate Jeremy Sear reckons the problem is that we don’t restore the boats, train the crews, and send them back for more passengers! Good grief.

  28. June 27, 2012 10:09 pm

    Not my old mate.

  29. June 27, 2012 10:10 pm

    They are big fans of democracy right up until the point where the democracy of others becomes inconvenient to them. Ask Hamas.

  30. JAWS permalink
    June 27, 2012 10:38 pm

    Glad it was not politicized tonite .

    That would have been awful .

  31. JAWS permalink
    June 27, 2012 10:38 pm

    Sarc

  32. JAWS permalink
    June 27, 2012 10:42 pm

    Milne is nothing but a callous murderer.

    Bet she was too busy getting her hair done for the Ball rather than give a fuck about refugees.

    Gillard might be a sack of shit but Milne is an evil sack of shit. She bathes in buckets of blood to get ready for the Parliamentary Ball.

    Evil

  33. JAWS permalink
    June 28, 2012 9:30 am

    An increase in the refugee intake to 20,000 and still the Greens refuse to budge.

    They are the most evil collection of scum that has ever called itself a political party

  34. el gordo permalink
    June 28, 2012 10:05 am

    Green zealots are Bolshies of the worst sort.

  35. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2012 10:41 am

    I see a lot of progress was made last night* Until it degenerated into politics and personalities … maybe we do have the government we deserve … 😦

    *sarc

  36. June 28, 2012 11:08 am

    I couldn’t believe my eyes when watching Christine Milne on ABC breakfast News this morning declare that they won’t be supporting any of the government or Coalition’s offshore processing policies in one breath and then when pressed to offer a solution just said that the government should increase the immigration intake…

    Two completely unrelated issues I would’ve thought…

    Is she living on another planet or what?

    And how about her voice…? Next to Julia Gillard’s it must be the most irritating little squealy thing in Parliament..

  37. Meta permalink
    June 28, 2012 11:33 am

    (Planet Oz’s-fair-share-equates-to-minimum-60Kpa-to-safely-resettle-backlog-stocks-within-the-decade-and-thereby-lend-hope-to-extant-resettlement-structures-and-reduce-flows, maybe.)

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