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Julia Gillard and The Carbon Tax of Death!

July 2, 2012

The Carbon Tax of Death is now a reality, and we’re sad to have it to break it to you, but WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!

Climate change expert Alan Jones has addressed a capacity crowd of approx 80 or so “older Australians” declaring that climate change is “rubbish”.

“We don’t want your soviet tax” they chanted.

”The notion of global warming is a hoax,” Jones told the angry mob on the steps of the Victorian Parliament.

”This is witchcraft” he declared.

“Commonsense will tell you it’s rubbish; 97 per cent of all carbon dioxide occurs naturally … 3 per cent around the world is created by human beings.”

The Final Nail in the Coffin for the Gillard Government

Following on from its successful handling of the asylum seeker impasse last week, the Gillard government awakes to more good news this week with a new Fairfax poll confirming that public sentiment once uniformly in favour of taking action against climate change has now taken a dramatic u-turn, with support for the carbon tax that the Prime Minister assured voters would never happen now collapsing to just 33 per cent.

With consumer spending languishing in the doldrums and Australians already saving, and paying off debt rather than spending, retailers fear that Australians may also tighten household spending further as they brace themselves for the impact of the toxic tax.

A Nielsen poll taken in the days leading up to the launch of the tax yesterday found one in two Australians believe it will leave them worse off.

The poll also shows the Coalition has consolidated its massive two-party lead over Labor, and would win an election if it were held now with a massive 8 per cent swing.

Tony Abbott, who has warned the price of “everything” will rise, said prices would fall once again when he axed the carbon tax in accordance with his symbolic “blood pledge of death” to repeal it or be executed should the Coalition win office at the next election.

Prime Minister Gillard defended the tax, arguing that people would all “forget about it in a few months – a bit like the GST.”

A bit like the way everyone forgot about the way she knifed her predecessor Kevin Rudd two years ago.

“This is about what is right for our nation’s future,” she said.

“We have had some very divisive debates in the past – the GST, universal superannuation, Medicare … and when the dust has settled and people have had the opportunity to judge it all for themselves they recognised it was the right thing for the nation.”

The right thing for the nation would be giving the Australian people the Prime Minister they actually want.

Kevin Rudd remains the people’s choice as preferred PM and is currently twice as popular amongst voters than Julia Gillard, who’s personal approval rating is now at a record low.

 

 

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88 Comments leave one →
  1. July 2, 2012 11:58 am

    So you’re saying that when I get old I’m going to die? Why wasn’t I told this when I was born! And why wasn’t I told that I would have to listen to ranting fools like Alan Jones?

  2. el gordo permalink
    July 2, 2012 12:24 pm

    Most importantly the models are flawed…the global warming prediction was wrong.

  3. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 2, 2012 1:46 pm

    It’s time Gillard went, the ALP is about as appealing as boiled cabbage right now.

    …and Gillard has put them there.

  4. JAWS permalink
    July 2, 2012 5:46 pm

    If you are struggling on $80K with no compensation and a mortgage I don’t think you’ll see the joke.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/horror-show-the-most-embarrassing-thing-ever/story-fndo4eg9-1226414883351

  5. JAWS permalink
    July 2, 2012 5:50 pm

    Craig Emerson obviously thinks the Carbon Tax is a great laugh. Singing about it and also getting up on his roof yesterday with a tape measure to “make sure the sky had not fallen in.”

    Then we had that imbecile Swan with his basket of groceries.

    Keep it up boys as I want to see the lot of you belted into electoral oblivion come the next election and belittling the legitamate concerns of ordinary Australians should ensure just that.

    So keep it up

  6. July 2, 2012 6:13 pm

    Fk me! I’ve just witnessed Craig Emerson singing the Skyhook’s on the ABC..

    Is he trying to outdo Jo Fisher or what…? What a complete and utter twat.

  7. JAWS permalink
    July 2, 2012 6:39 pm

    At least Jo Fisher had already been diagnosed and she was a Senate backbench nobody.

    Emerson is an imbercile of the highest order.

    For a minister to carry on like that wont go down too well at all.

  8. July 2, 2012 6:42 pm

    Political suicide successfully executed.

    Unprecedented electoral rout to follow.

    Only the compromised blind & tragicically adherent anticipate any less.

  9. James of North Melbourne permalink
    July 2, 2012 6:48 pm

    Mrs Sancty: “someone please poke my eyes out”

  10. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 2, 2012 6:49 pm

    He used to be Julia’s boyfriend, I can understand the mutual attraction.
    —————————-
    Prime Minister Julia Gillard insists only Labor will build the national broadband network (NBN) despite the coalition’s backflip on cancelling the project.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/government-it/gillard-insists-only-labor-can-deliver-nbn-20120702-21buu.html#ixzz1zS8wMzTw

    Fine, but the NBN will be plagued with cost overruns and delays. Already 2 significant contractors are balking at further bidding, they’re finding the project more difficult to pan and execute than they anticipated. That equals cost, plus some additional charges, followed by contract variations and cost increases, plus some extra charges and costs*

    (note * “informed industry scuttlebutt”)

  11. James of North Melbourne permalink
    July 2, 2012 7:13 pm

    It appears that the Trade Minister making a complete fuckwit of himself isn’t newsworthy. Should I be grateful or angry?

  12. July 2, 2012 7:40 pm

    Oh dear, as if Labor ever needed another eason why they’ve got to go…

    http://www.news.com.au/national/horror-show-the-most-embarrassing-thing-ever/story-fndo4eg9-1226414883351

  13. July 2, 2012 7:43 pm

    “Should I be grateful or angry?”

    Tough call.

    Although I could understand if you feel “validated”.

    What was Emerson thinking…..

  14. el gordo permalink
    July 2, 2012 7:51 pm

    Emerson is a clown.

  15. July 2, 2012 8:04 pm

    Liberal Party Trolls!

    You people have no shame.

    Craig Emerson is a Great Man.

  16. July 2, 2012 8:05 pm

    * quietly pleased that angry old people will be the first to die

  17. Tony permalink
    July 2, 2012 8:39 pm

    😯

  18. Tony permalink
    July 2, 2012 8:43 pm

    Was Emerson playing air guitar, or handling himself? It’s hard to tell.

  19. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 2, 2012 8:46 pm

    I think Emerson was trying to make Abbott look stupid. It did not work.

  20. el gordo permalink
    July 2, 2012 8:52 pm

    God to see your return Tony….its been quiet around here.

    The boss seems to think TDT is biased in their reporting (like The Age but different) so I’ll put this up (borrowed from the cafe) to show that we are fair and balanced.

  21. el gordo permalink
    July 2, 2012 8:53 pm

    God = good.

  22. Ol' Sancty permalink
    July 2, 2012 9:00 pm

    The frightening thing, Reb, was that he WAS thinking. It’s not as though he stumbled out of the pub after some extended celebration of the end of financial year. He had his minder prepared with the tape player.

    I have a brother living in London who’s going to get it for this……poor bastard.

  23. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 2, 2012 9:23 pm

    Well the Carbon Tax has changed my behaviour. i used to leave the TV in standby mode. I now turn it off. Perhaps this is what the govt wants.

  24. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 2, 2012 9:40 pm

    This is Craig proving that he is just a normal guy, I mean who among us doesn’t burst into song a play a little of the air guitar when we’re illustrating a political point?

    Though if Craig is determined to use Skyhooks material, I think “Living in the 70s” would be more appropriate for him.

  25. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 2, 2012 9:41 pm

    “and play a little air guitar”

  26. JAWS permalink
    July 2, 2012 9:55 pm

    Don’t forget that Transport is it yet included as a polluter.so that tax is still to come so save a little bit of that $7 per week they just gave you if you qualify. You’ll need it in 2 or 3 years

  27. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 2, 2012 10:43 pm

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/minister-slams-unsustainable-wage-demands-20120702-21dcu.html

    Ferguson is critical of the IR outcomes that result from the IR system his government introduced!

    Unsustainable increases in wages and conditions in the resources sector, unions holding back projects by unreasonable demands, who’d have tipped that?

  28. JAWS permalink
    July 2, 2012 10:45 pm

    What happened to Simon Sheikh on Q&A ?

    I thought he was takin’ the piss at first.

    Is he ‘afflicted’ in some way ?

  29. public toilet permalink
    July 2, 2012 10:59 pm

    Wtf is TDT?

  30. JAWS permalink
    July 2, 2012 11:05 pm

    Seriously ,

    Gillard needs to sack Emerson . He is our Trade Minister FFS.

    We have a total fuckwit as the face of Australian Trade representing us.

    The cnuts are just a totally embarrassing rabble.

    They are fucking unbelievable

  31. James of North Melbourne permalink
    July 2, 2012 11:55 pm

    She needs to keep him around. He still has her contact lenses.

  32. July 3, 2012 2:16 am

    el gordo said, “God = good.”

    Amen brother.

  33. July 3, 2012 2:21 am

    Emerson’s pathetic schtick was in line with Labor’s recent attempts to use comic ridicule agains Abbott’s relentless ampaign. Combet had a bash at singing a dumb song not long ago. Problem is, when 60% of the people hate the tax, then that ridicule is gunna just get people madder and madder, get them reaching for bigger and bigger baseball bats.

  34. el gordo permalink
    July 3, 2012 8:32 am

    ‘Wtf is TDT?’

    The Daily Trash young fella, do try to keep up.

  35. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 8:56 am

    “………..in line with Labor’s recent attempts to use comic ridicule agains Abbott’s relentless ampaign.”

    Oh………………..so that’s why Gillard is still PM

  36. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 9:56 am

    Now this demonstrates how pathetic Emerson is.

    Apparently it was NOT Tony Abbott that first said that Whyalla would be wiped out due to the Carbon Tax.

    It was some stooge from the Australian Workers Union.

    Abbott just ran with what the AWU was saying.

  37. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 3, 2012 10:01 am

    Yes that is correct.

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/carbon-tax-will-destroy-major-centres-such-as-port-pirie-and-whyalla/story-e6frea6u-1226041230581

    THE state’s two key industrial cities will be “wiped off the map” by a carbon tax, a major union warns.

    The tax would strip thousands of jobs from Whyalla and Port Pirie, the Australian Workers Union state secretary Wayne Hanson said.

    The internal revolt from Labor’s industrial heartland threatens not just the reform but the Government’s survival.

  38. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 12:51 pm

    Yes Neil,

    But we need to ask why have we not heard this being reported widely in the mass media.

    The media have allowed Tony Abbott to be attacked in a very professional manner by Emerson without disclosing that it was the official from the AWU that made the statement.

    Nah………no mention at all

    And let’s face it……………… Emerson really nailed it yesterday.

    The Failed Estate has clearly failed again in its sickening unending bias against the Liberal and National Parties.

    Its an outrage and there should be an enquiry into the way the Press reports these issues.

    We clearly need new laws to prevent this kind of bias.

    Its just soooooooooooooooooo unfair

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

  39. Tom R permalink
    July 3, 2012 2:54 pm

    But we need to ask why have we not heard this being reported widely in the mass media.

    It could be because, once the unions saw how they were being compensated, they no longer felt threatened, so didn’t repeat it.

    tabot, on the other hand, couldn’t shut up about it.

    Something about reaping and sowing spring to mind 😉

  40. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 3:37 pm

    Oh well that’s nice TomR

    But did the evil media report this ……………..?

    In which case it would seem there is no bias since both sides have been reported correctly.

    Its such a pity there are so many bloggers around claiming bias where there actually is none. You know the ones. The ones that keep saying Abbott lied when he was simply repeating what the AWU were saying.

    Luckily I had you to set the record straight.

    Just on another point you raised. So it would seem from what you are saying that if an industry is not compensated then it could well be wiped out if it does not shout loud enough.

    It would be easier just not to have the tax in the first place an intelligent person would surmise.

  41. Tom R permalink
    July 3, 2012 3:54 pm

    But did the evil media report this ……………..?

    😯

    http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2011/04/27/3201383.htm

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/abbott-warns-of-whyallas-death-due-to-carbon-tax/story-e6frea83-1226050927418

    http://search.news.com.au/related/id%3Astory_1226050927418/0/Abbott-warns-of-Whyallas-death/?us=ndmfoxsports&sid=5001021&as=FOXS&ac=search&r=related

    a small taste 😉

    Don’t blame us if tabot can’t make up his own lines. If he doesn’t believe em, he shouldn’t utter them,

    again

    and again

    and again 😉

  42. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 4:12 pm

    Wow TomR that’s really impressive.

    All those quotes from Tony Abbott lying about the effect of the Carbon Tax and the way he obviously neglected to say anything about the compensation package for the Onesteel mill in Whyalla.

    I cant believe the bias in the media in neglecting to report the compensation package. But that would have destroyed the Hate Media’s agenda if they reported Abbott saying what he said in the face of the Compensation for Whyalla .

    You are clearly really onto something with all this biased coverage accusation.

    I’m on your side from now on

    Oooops !

    I think you might have forgot something TomR.

    Seems Abbott commented about Whyalla being wiped out BEFORE the compensation was announced.

    3 months before it seems.

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/blow-softened-for-australias-big-businesses-exposed-trade-competitors/story-fn9ar0ql-1226091904180

    Just thought I’d let you know.

    How did YOU miss that TomR ?

    Seems Abbott was not telling lies afterall

  43. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2012 4:37 pm

    What a convoluted argument, Wally?

    A union rep said Whyalla would be part of the 2012 Apocalypse … then Abbott took up the plaintiff cry … then the government announced a compensation package (that had already been negotiated) … the real problem is that YOU and Abbott keep repeating the bullshit … Whyalla is still STANDING …. hang on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yep just checked outside … the sky is still up there … no matter which way you want to twist it, WGAF … the tax is here, life goes on and no-one REALLY is worse off …

    … you just wanted trading scheme sooner so you could play silly buggers and make money out of other people’s misery … oh, wait!

  44. el gordo permalink
    July 3, 2012 4:47 pm

    ‘the tax is here, life goes on and no-one REALLY is worse off …’

    The tax is here and when Abbott gets in it will be dismantled, but before then our VSB will almost certainly go to the wall.

    I will continue to report the bad news from the front line as it happens.

  45. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 4:49 pm

    “What a convoluted argument, Wally?”

    What’s so convoluted about the Left continually neglecting to mention that Whyalla was saved with a compensation package only AFTER Abbott repeated what an AWU official claimed in the first place ?

  46. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 4:51 pm

    And Yes……………the Finance industry is indeed looking forward to the ETS

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2012 5:38 pm

    What’s so convoluted about the Left continually neglecting to mention that Whyalla was saved with a compensation package only AFTER Abbott repeated what an AWU official claimed in the first place ?

    Give me fkn strength … so the compensation package was because of Abbott? The No No Kid … FMD …

    I can see the Cabinet now … Whooo! Tony reckons the union bloke in Whyalla is right … let’s give ’em some money right away!

  48. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 6:02 pm

    Oh Dear

    New Zealand have announced the wind back of their ETS saying in the current environment it threatens jobs.

    What with them and the City of Boulder in the USA who’s gonna be left ?

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2012 6:17 pm

    … and once again the point to your ramblings, Wally?

    Never hopeful, but you never know …

  50. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 6:19 pm

    Glad to see you like ramblings TB

    Can you believe it ?

    ATO Online Tax Lodgements still does not cater for IOS

  51. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 6:20 pm

    GO BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE S !

  52. el gordo permalink
    July 3, 2012 7:19 pm

    In the USA CO2 emissions have been brought back to 1990 levels without a tax.

    Just sayin…

  53. July 3, 2012 7:40 pm

    Only the naive think that Abbott will actually remove the tax in its entirety if he gains power.

    It will be too entrenched & invisible…with the added bonus of filling up an Abbott government’s coffers. Far too tempting to eradicate.
    His refrain is just empty tokenism.

    It will be like the ALP ‘getting rid’ of Workchoices, but in reality keeping all of the bits that they found convenient & were still able to blame on the Howard government. So it will go with Abbott’s ‘repeal’ of the carbon tax.

    Supporters of both sides are far too trusting of their hood ornaments.
    There should be uniform cynicism regarding this type of shit.

  54. el gordo permalink
    July 3, 2012 8:17 pm

    The carbon tax will be abolished, let’s not forget the ‘blood oath’ by the conservatives to the electorate that they will do the deed even if it takes a DD.

    The PM’s comment …”So now, Australians have a chance to see carbon pricing in action for themselves. Is it a wrecking ball, a python squeeze or is it a sensible policy to cut pollution? You decide.”

    Honestly…she’s a fkn idiot.

    I’ve always voted Labor, but never again.

  55. el gordo permalink
    July 3, 2012 8:20 pm

    ‘Only the naive think that Abbott will actually remove the tax in its entirety if he gains power.’

    Really? Only the ignorant believe CO2 emissions have any connection with global warming.

  56. July 3, 2012 8:36 pm

    You are putting too much trust in the Coalition. Blood oath is just empty words calculated to impress rusted-ons & waverers.
    The conservatives word is worth no more than any other politician’s.

    So yeah, I say that it’s naive to just accept that the tax will be removed in its entirety just because the demonstrably slippery Abbott says so.

    As for AGW, I am ambivalent. I don’t believe that the tax will make a scrap of difference to global climate. However, I’m inclined to trust the conclusions of actual scientists over & above the protestations of internet zealots who hold Bolt et al in high regard & are convinced that the whole thing is some vast socialist conspiracy.
    You anti-zealots are just as single minded & devoted to your stance against as any pro-AGW mouthpiece I’ve come across. You’re equally as certain that your position is absolutely correct…& you lot lampoon the other side as being ‘religious’ about it. Makes me laugh.
    Internet peoples are, generally speaking, just cherry pickers without any solid background to make credible absolute statements about the veracity or otherwise of AGW.
    The only honest stance for a lay person is to admit that they don’t really know, it can’t be proven or disproven in their lifetime & that they are probably just leaning towards their ideological bias.

  57. Tom R permalink
    July 3, 2012 9:23 pm

    Seems Abbott commented about Whyalla being wiped out BEFORE the compensation was announced.

    Seems he forgot about that little detail then 😉

    http://www.tonyabbott.com.au/LatestNews/Speeches/tabid/88/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/8310/Address-to-the-Australian-Steel-Convention-2011-Canberra.aspx

    http://www.liberal.org.au/Latest-News/2011/08/20/Tony-Abbott-Doorstop.aspx

  58. el gordo permalink
    July 3, 2012 9:30 pm

    ‘I’m inclined to trust the conclusions of actual scientists’

    With the greatest respect boss, that’s a huge mistake.

  59. Ewe Antizelitz permalink
    July 3, 2012 9:34 pm

    “If we leave it any longer, and no politician seems to be taking Peak Oil seriously, then we are going to see total economic collapse.” ~ George Monbiot, 24 September 2009

    http://thethirdestate.net/2009/09/an-interview-with-george-monbiot/

    “Peak oil hasn’t happened, and it’s unlikely to happen for a very long time.” ~ George Monbiot, 2 July 2012

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/02/peak-oil-we-we-wrong

  60. el gordo permalink
    July 3, 2012 9:36 pm

    ‘it can’t be proven or disproven in their lifetime’

    The science tells us that 17 years have passed without global warming…the sun is the main driver of climate change.

    This is clear proof that CO2 has no impact on temperatures. It was just a theory.

  61. el gordo permalink
    July 3, 2012 9:37 pm

    Hi Tony.

  62. M.T.Retrick permalink
    July 3, 2012 9:40 pm

    G’day el gordo. We heretics have to stick together. 😉

  63. el gordo permalink
    July 3, 2012 9:43 pm

    True Mr Retrick…at least here the numbers are evenly balanced.

  64. July 3, 2012 10:15 pm

    “that’s a huge mistake.”

    Yeah, because anti_AGW internet crusaders are just sooooo much more credible, taking snippets from anti-websites here & there to support themselves & reconfirm their bias.

    As I said…you anti-zealots are just as single minded & devoted to your stance against as any pro-AGW mouthpiece I’ve come across. You’re equally as certain that your position is absolutely correct.

    As far as I’m concerned, there is yet to be any “clear proof” for or against. If nothing has changed in half a century then I’d be inclined to err your way, perhaps; but y’all will be dead before you’re vindicated. Such is life.

    Seems to me that each side has drawn a line in the sand & all following proclamaitions, especially from teh blogtroopers, can be cynically viewed through that prism.

    You claim to be sceptics, but I suspect that your minds are well & truly made up. No ‘proof’ would sway you.

    Just as absolutist as the other lot.

  65. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 10:52 pm

    Give it up TomR

    Your defence is just laughable .

    Abbott has on both your links restated what Wayne Hanson said in the first place. Hanson was talking about the devestating effect of the TAX on the steel industry in general as was Abbott.

    Australia wide.

    Do you reckon a wind farm can power a steel foundry 24/7 ?

    What about solar ?

    Why Not quote incontext sometime ?

    Sorry I forgot context is just too hard for you

  66. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 10:56 pm

    Mmmmmmm !

    Emma looks a bit puffy under the eyes tonite

  67. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 11:02 pm

    Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark

    Where is Toilet ?

    I need a very big mop

    Foxtel is now broadcasting Al Jazeera

    I didn’t ask for A-Rab news .

    This is an outrage

    Trying to get me placid for the upcoming jihad obviously

    Wetz panz !

  68. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 11:06 pm

    And the Dow points a tiny bit higher tonite.

    The “drift” sideways is back

  69. JAWS permalink
    July 3, 2012 11:08 pm

    Clive Palmer is a joke.

    They should just expell him from the LNP

    He is more damaging than beneficial

  70. public toilet permalink
    July 3, 2012 11:55 pm

    Al Jazeesus on white people’s tv! The reanimate Ayatollah sited at IKEA.

    Holy castration! The global caliphate is upon us. This proves, once & for all, that the white western xtian male is victimized above all otherz.

    Julia & Obama have let the evil ones in through the side gate.

  71. public toilet permalink
    July 4, 2012 12:04 am

    Monbiot was wrong about peak oil, ergo…agw is bunk & a global conspiracy encompassing all climate scientists who propose otherwise.

    😯
    …& you reckon my rhetoric is empty? 🙄

  72. Tom R permalink
    July 4, 2012 4:37 am

    Abbott has on both your links restated what Wayne Hanson said in the first place

    Isn’t that the point, dopey. That he kept saying it.

    He has repeated the slogan, before the legislation, after the legislation, and still agreed with it. tabot just showed how bereft of slogans he is, that he needs to use, as he calls them, ‘bully boys’ to help him out with his fear campaigns.

    He played the fear card on Whyalla. He got burnt. Like he will with all his other bullshit. You are going to have to do a lot better than blaming stupid things Union guys say for stupid things tabot then says, repeatedly.

    Roosters are coming home, as we knew they would 😉

    Why Not quote incontext sometime ?

    Because I thought I’d provide the link for the whole drivel, but, since you insist

    QUESTION:

    You were speaking about the carbon tax. What sort of impacts will that have here in South Australia [inaudible]?

    TONY ABBOTT:

    Well, over time, the carbon tax poses a terrible threat to the heavy industry of South Australia. It was Wayne Hanson, the South Australian Secretary of the Australian Workers’ Union, who first said – and I think rightly said – that Port Pirie and Whyalla would become wastelands if the carbon tax went ahead. Now, this week in the federal parliament we had Simon Crean saying that ‘oh, it’s ok, there’s going to be a green energy grid’. Well, that’s great. But a green energy grid doesn’t substitute for a steel mill. A green energy grid doesn’t substitute for the 5,000 jobs in Whyalla that are directly or indirectly dependent upon OneSteel.

    ..

    20/08/11

    contextual enough for ya 😆

  73. July 4, 2012 5:46 am

    “Over time……”

    Gee, now doesn’t that seem just a little different to “On July 1 Whyalla will be wiped off the map”?

  74. el gordo permalink
    July 4, 2012 6:18 am

    ‘As far as I’m concerned, there is yet to be any “clear proof” for or against.’

    CO2 does not appear to be causing global warming and the AGW theory is history.

  75. Tom R permalink
    July 4, 2012 6:21 am

    WOOHOO

    It’s July 4, and it’s still there 😆

  76. el gordo permalink
    July 4, 2012 6:53 am

    ‘You claim to be sceptics, but I suspect that your minds are well & truly made up. No ‘proof’ would sway you.’

    We accept that CO2 is continuing to rise at a rapid rate, but there is no indication that it has anything to do with climate.

    http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/GSC1.htm

  77. el gordo permalink
    July 4, 2012 8:33 am

    ‘Despite this week’s start-up, there will be no investment certainty in Australia surrounding carbon pricing until a Labor-Coalition bipartisanship is struck. That remains some years away. Tony Abbott will seek a mandate at the next election to abolish Labor’s scheme and, provided he secures a reasonable majority, Julia Gillard’s policy will be repealed.’

    Paul Kelly in the Oz

  78. JAWS permalink
    July 4, 2012 8:50 am

    “…Isn’t that the point, dopey. That he kept saying it……………”

    Actually bonehead the point is that grey matter free zones, of which you are an owner of, keep accusing Abbott of lying about a Carbon Tax that we are not even supposed to have and for which the establishment was based on the biggest election lie campaign in Australian political history.

    In fact it is such a massive lie that I dont believe any of the current “leadership” crop or perhaps even any current ALP MP will be ever able to overcome the stigma of having voted for this wretched tax.

    No matter who leads the ALP Opposition the ALP brand has now been so smashed that the Liberals and Nationals will coast to victory every 3 years for the next 15 on the basis of just re-running the Gillard lie every campaign and picking off the ALP members who voted in favour of it in this Parliament.

  79. TB Queensland permalink
    July 4, 2012 9:26 am

    I have a confession to make … I originally suggested a CO2 thread to, sreb … in the last reincarnation … now you know why …

    HD, I agree, its not by chance that Climate Change has the same acronym as the Catholic Church … and both deserve a healthy dose of agnosticism …

    … strange that those that are Cathlick observers are often Climate sceptics … science and religion opposed again … 😆

    People are funny …
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    … or greedy …

    Thank goodness we voted Noddy Newman in as Premier and he froze electricity prices …

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/power-price-rises-continue-as-agl-announces-increase-in-peak-rate/story-e6freoof-1226416306232

    SOUTHEAST Queensland’s second-biggest electricity retailer has released its tariff prices for 2012-13, including a 14.6 per cent increase in the peak rate.

    The State Government froze the so-called Tariff 11 base rate as part of its cost-of-living package but most retailers have lifted it above that determined by the Queensland Competition Authority … That amounts to an extra $228 a year compared with Origin Energy’s average increase of about $400 a year.

    Yesterday Mr Newman insisted households would still be $120 a year better off as a result of his Government’s “freeze” on Tariff 11.

    He said the only rise would be due to the Federal Government’s carbon tax.

    And how we chucled and giggled at the sport of the Robber Barons at at play work …

    Thank you … Mr Newman … Cando my fkn arse!

  80. JAWS permalink
    July 4, 2012 9:55 am

    “I agree, its not by chance that Climate Change has the same acronym as the Catholic Church”

    Yes you are either a “Believer” in the “Faith” or a “Denier”…………….framed as a modern day Judas quite on purpose I suppose

  81. July 4, 2012 9:58 am

    ” I originally suggested a CO2 thread to, sreb … in the last reincarnation … now you know why …

    Indeed.

    And now I’ve created a new one for the same reason!

    https://thedailytrash.wordpress.com/co2-and-you/

  82. JAWS permalink
    July 4, 2012 10:05 am

    TB

    The rise in electricity charges over the last decade has a number of causes

    1) The rape of dividends from state owned utilities by ALP governments to fund hordes of fat cats and bludgers within the PS

    2) The rise of Solar Energy Schemes plus giant Meteorological Fart Farms and the ridiculously high feed in tariffs and subsidies as arranged by various ALP state governments

    3) The “Gilt Edging” of the power networks to add the extra 3% reliability at a totally ridiculous price as sanctioned by various ALP state governments

    4) The Carbon Tax

    We used to have perhaps the cheapest power prices in the World but now after a decade to 15 years of economic vandalism by various ALP state governments and now the ALP Federal government we have amongst the highest in the world

  83. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 4, 2012 10:25 am

    Far be it from me to moderate or correct some anti ALP commentary, but the relatively high electricity prices (internationally) probably have a little to do with the strength of the dollar too.

    However, it is fair to say that the state of the power generation and distribution system is in hopeless decay, and wind farms and solar panels aren’t going to fix it.

  84. JAWS permalink
    July 4, 2012 10:40 am

    “……..That amounts to an extra $228 a year compared with Origin Energy’s average increase of about $400 a year……………”

    You might recall that Gerry Harvey complained about the cost of electronics having fallen so much that he now needs to sell more and more in quantities to make the same amount of dollars. His stores are suffering from price deflation.

    That’s why the retailers in general are having a tough time as that same phenomenon is happening in all retail sectors due to the high AUD and internet shopping.

    Well guess who is enjoying higher prices due to the socialist economic vandalism practiced by the ALP ?

    Yep…………the Power Companies.

    Their “Plasma TVs” are called “kilowatt hours” instead. And the ALP is forcing the prices higher and higher.

    Which all means that the Power Companies are getting to “clip a bus ticket” worth more and more each year.

    Gerry Harvey must be staring on very enviously.

    The ALP just have no idea about business or economics. They might as well call themselves the Greens and stop the pretence.

  85. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 4, 2012 10:50 am

    ”the two leaders endorsed a joint public information campaign in Indonesian villages to warn boys and men against becoming crew.”

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/give-back-our-boys-sby-20120703-21flm.html#ixzz1zbsoeq45

    Interestingly, I was call an Abbott supporter for advocating the type of proposition announced by Julia Gillard and Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.

    They intend to have a joint public information campaign to educate boys and men how crew the boats about the danger and penalties for them in people smuggling.

    Apparently this was impractical when I suggested it, but I’m sure now it will be viewed entirely differently. It will be great policy now that Gillard has endorsed it.

  86. July 4, 2012 10:52 am

    “That’s why the retailers in general are having a tough time”

    I wonder whether this is really true, to the extent that we’re being led to believe…

    I went into Myer the other day and checked out the price of sheets.

    Some $600 for a Queen sheet set (yes, “Queen”) with some 20% off..

    That still makes it $400, and much higher than the price the same sort of sheets were selling for 2 or 3 years ago.

    Our dollar has been escalating during this time, so given the fact that everything comes from China these days, you’d be forgiven for thinking that our retail prices should be a helluva lot lower than they are currently.

    Wasn’t there some report recently that revealed that Apple products were about 20-30% higher here than overseas?

    My partner bought an ipad in Malaysia last year and saved about $200 compared to buying the same one in Aus.

    It’s a disgrace!

  87. JAWS permalink
    July 4, 2012 11:31 am

    “Some $600 for a Queen sheet set (yes, “Queen”) with some 20% off..

    That still makes it $400, and much higher than the price the same sort of sheets were selling for 2 or 3 years ago.”

    That’s sort of my point. Myer cant drop the price that much as they would then need to sell more sets of sheets for the same dollars. And perhaps there is a sole licenced importer selling to Myer.

    Same thing happens in mens shirts. I quite like Ralph Lauren but they are no lower than 3 years ago either.

    There was an article a few months ago about the big department stores demanding that their sole distributors start passing on the AUD savings so that Myer and DJs could go some way to compete with overseas internet shopping.

    All of which means that the Purchasers that DJs and Myers et al employ are not doing their bloody jobs for whatever reason and demanding better deals. And I think part of the reason might be that these days Myer and DJs effectively sublet much of their floor space to the big brands who employ their own staff.

    Try and get someone from the Country Road section to help you with a Ralph Lauren shirt sometime. You wont. They’ll run from you like a drug crazed Usain Bolt.

    It started with the branded cosmetic counters and now has spread to other areas.

  88. TB Queensland permalink
    July 4, 2012 3:49 pm

    Re: My earlier post …

    Thank goodness we voted Noddy Newman in as Premier and he froze electricity prices

    THE POINT IS – NODDY FAILED AGAIN …. he didn’t freeze prices at all … my farts have more impact than his waffle … he did it as Lord Mayor of Brisbane and he’s doing it now …

    The regulators are fkn useless and so is the CanDo Crap …

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