Asylum Seekers treating Australian Navy “like the bloody NRMA” says Christopher Pyne
How the whole sorry scam works and Aussie battlers get treated like mugs while illegals live it up at luxury resorts and treat our NRMA like a bloody taxi service! YES THEY ARE AND YOU’RE PAYING FOR IT…!!!
- Illegal immigrants living it up at lavish holiday resorts..!
- Treating the Australian Navy like their own taxi service…!!
- Aussie battlers footing the bill…!!!
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The manager of opposition business, Christopher “I’m not a poof” Pyne has today lashed out at asylum seekers accusing them of treating the Australian Navy like “the NRMA”.
Mr Pyne said that boats carrying asylum seekers were deliberately making “distress calls” shortly after leaving port in order to alert Australian authorities to come and rescue them.
According to Mr Pyne, this is “an emerging trend” and “a symptom of Labor’s failure to protect Australia’s borders.”
The lure of permanent residency, rather than a temporary visa, was the “sugar on the table”, he said.
“Now what’s happening in terms of asylum-seekers using the navy as an NRMA in order to come into Australia is just another symptom of the government’s complete failure to protect our borders since August 2008, when they reversed the Howard government’s proven policies,” Mr Pyne said.
They treat this place like a bloody hotel!
The allegation that the Australian Navy has become the equivalent of an NRMA “collection service” for asylum seekers followings revelations in 2010 that asylum seekers were living it up at luxury Queenlsand resorts at taxpayers’ expense.
It’s a disgrace!
Meanwhile Tony Abbott has confirmed his pledge to “turn the boats around.”
“It is time for Australia to adopt turning the boats as its core policy” he said.
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Its obvious to the Australian electorate that this is the new strategy by the smugglers.
Julia is one step away from checkmate.
The ALP abandoned the moral high ground a decade ago. On this type of redneck issue, the ALP should never get into a bidding war with the Liberals.
People are entitled to expect a more humane policy from the ALP, and once they had one. Now, they’re locked into a race to the bottom, trying every slimy option to neutralise the political attack of the Liberals. There is no silver bullet.
They’re a disgrace.
“People are entitled to expect a more humane policy from the ALP, and once they had one.”
What is this humane policy the ALP once had???
I do not have too much trouble with asylum seekers. I may need to seek asylum myself one day. I do agree we we should increase our quota. But we cannot take all the millions of asylum seekers. I would prefer asylum seekers to skilled immigrants.
Furthermore the boat people have found safe haven in Indonesia. They have found asylum but are now country shopping. They should apply to the Australian embassy in Jakarta and seek to migrate to Australia like many millions have since WW2.
“I may need to seek asylum myself one day..”
We live in hope.
‘I would prefer asylum seekers to skilled immigrants.’
Not sure can afford the luxury.
Ahh Whiney Pyne — the intellectual minnow’s ball boy!
I would prefer asylum seekers to skilled immigrants.
You keep saying that, Noddy, why?
Duh! TB…it’s coz Russian Scientists are skilled immigrants…don’t you know anything?! 🙄
“I would prefer asylum seekers to skilled immigrants.
You keep saying that, Noddy, why?”
If you have spent many years learning a trade/skill the last thing you want is to compete with flyins for a job. I have friends in Australian science and it is heartbreaking what is going on. Large numbers of PhD’s from Eastern Europe and China are getting Research jobs while people with PhD’s born here are unemployed. They just fly them in.
Same goes for any profession. Do you really want to see the Australian cricket team full of South Africans like the English team is??
Noddy makes a good argument.
Now what’s happening in terms of asylum-seekers using the navy as an NRMA…
Keep ’em busy! It gives them something to do and takes their mind off sexually assaulting their female counterparts!
But Neil, why? Why are companies flying in PhD’s rather than employing people already here? Is it a financial thing? Can they pay fly-ins less?
I work in a factory environment where there’s no lack of immigrants with degrees who reckon it’s very difficult to get work in their professional area.
Companies I’ve worked for have generally struck me as being fairly ruthlessly meritocratic – they want the best worker for the job – that’s the bottom-line focus – and they don’t care about the ethnicities involved.
“But Neil, why? Why are companies flying in PhD’s rather than employing people already here?”
I do not know. You tell me? Salary is the same. It is even worse in the United States. There are Research labs in the US where they speak Russian in the lab. There is large scale migration of Eastern European and Chinese scientists to the West in general and English speaking countries in particular.
So I can understand why Unions exist. If possible a lot of bosses would just fly people in.
Also another reason is a lot of overseas students get degrees here. Universities get a lot of money from this. The students are supposed to fly home when they finish their PhD’s but of course they want to stay. They try and get permanent residency and if that fails they claim asylum. These comprise some of the so-called asylum seekers who fly in.
“Companies I’ve worked for have generally struck me as being fairly ruthlessly meritocratic – they want the best worker for the job – that’s the bottom-line focus – and they don’t care about the ethnicities involved.”
Strongly agree!
“There are Research labs in the US where they speak Russian in the lab.”
😯
zomfg…
Strongly agree!
So do I … as a OH&S Manager, talking $$$$’s was the only thing that would get management off its arse … fk saving people’s lives or avoiding risk or moral responsibility arguments … apart from legal responsibility that many thought “didn’t apply” to them … I simply showed them how they could reduce costs and/or increase productivity with better systems, training, processes, equipment and machinery … never failed …
AND, Noddy, training ALWAYS comes at a COST (if you do it, or don”t … and learn the expensive way ) someone always has to pay )sometimes with their life!) … training unskilled migrants, asylum seekers and refugees to become contributing members of Australian society has to be paid for …
BTW, professionals and trade skilled people can’t just waltz into Australia and get a job in their profession or trade … they still have to go through an RPL process and, if necessary, lift their skill/knowledge level to Australian standards …
As an example a motor mechanic from the USA is trained as a specialist {ie engine, transmission, brakes, steering} Australian motor mechanics are trained as “generalists” – they can work on all parts of a car and are trained to Certificate Level here … German motor mechanics are generally trained to Diploma level …
… in other words learning standards around the world are quite different … eg you wouldn’t let a PNG motor mechanic change a tyre … !!
“BTW, professionals and trade skilled people can’t just waltz into Australia and get a job in their profession or trade”
Yes but PhD’s are accepted worldwide. When a Russian Scientist finishes his PhD he gets out a travel brochure and looks for a country he would like to do Research in. I know of one Lab in Australia where there are 24 Postdoctoral scientists and only 8 were born or raised here. The rest were flown in.
I also do not like the number of South Africans in the English cricket team. They were also flown in.
We should only bring in skilled immigrants only if we need them. We have a shortage of Doctors that is why people like Haneef were here.
I have a pet peeve with flying in PhD’s because I have friends who are heartbroken that after spending years getting a degree they cannot practice what they were trained to do and have to pick a different career. A lot of PhD’s I know have gone into sales or school teaching.
A lot of PhD’s I know have gone into sales or school teaching.
That explains a lot, Noddy …
I also do not like the number of South Africans in the English cricket team. They were also flown in.
As if? You’re beginning to sound very racist, here … Noddy?
“You’re beginning to sound very racist, here”
You can tell you are from “the left” of politics. You always try to smear another human being if they say something you might disagree with.
We all have pet peeves but these people were flown in to play for the English cricket team- Strauss, Trott, Pieterson, Prior. That means four people born in England have lost a chance to play for England.
Like I said I have friends who have told me what it is like in Australian Research labs. Lots of flyins and a lot of heartbroken people who cannot practice the profession they love.
Scott Morrison blathering on this am that the Coalition’s “turn the boats back” policy [which we’ve heard of many times before today including right up to two days ago] is now a “stop the boats from leaving Indonesia” policy 😆
That would be the one where Bill Kelty’s AFP oversaw the sabataging of boats [in Indonesia] so that the motors broke down soon after leaving – illegal and dangerous stuff – haven’t heard it mentioned much though.
Do they have any credibility left? Why do they get away with fabricating and backflipping/misrepresenting/distorting all the time? Are they ever going to be held to account?
Abbott does his little ‘friendly’ business door stop each morning saying the same stuff he’s been saying for years. As soon as he gets a hard question, he turns tail and walks out, why is he even given a run? They should just ignore him and his antics until he accepts that he has more responsibilty to the people than simply sending out a message of hate and dodging the stuff that matters.
“When a Russian Scientist finishes his PhD he gets out a travel brochure and looks for a country he would like to do Research in.”
😯 😯 😯 unfknblvbl
Why Toilet?? It is the truth.
TB, I thought OH&S Managers today occupied a position of respect in our society that priests used to hold (way back when God was still around and altar boys weren’t toys). In the places I’ve worked, endless time and respect is paid to OH&S matters – at least in a lip-service sort of way (again, just like religion operated).
(Sorry, I’ve just recently been hauled against my will onto an OH&S committee…not happy – it meets on FRIDAYS would you believe.)
“I have friends who are heartbroken that after spending years getting a degree they cannot practice what they were trained to do”
But if fly-ins are getting these jobs, don’t your friends have to ask some hard questions…ie, in what way am I being outdone here? What are the fly-ins offering that I’m not? If the playing field is level, then don’t they just have to get better – win the next job-interview battle? If Aussies are becoming a marginalised minority here, I’d like to see us emulate the Jews throughout history – succeed via a combination of perseverance and brilliance.
” Why do they get away with fabricating and backflipping/misrepresenting/distorting all the time?”
They do get away with it because they’re only the opposition, and fundamentally they’ve been saying the same thing for years.
On the other hand, the ALP develops their policy on the basis of trial and error, with the “error” component making up most of the experience. Honestly, how is it possible for the ALP to retain any credibility on the subject of asylum seeker policy? They have now advocated every possible position.
“how is it possible for the ALP to retain any credibility on the subject of asylum seeker policy? They have now advocated every possible position.”
Except the on-shore processing model they initially supported when in opposition – they never really had any clue what to do with it in power.
Just read a fascinating article from Sinclair Davidson on a possible on-shore approach which I thought didn’t sound too bad… a sort of radical classical liberal approach…
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2876628.html
My own experiences with OH&S mirror victor’s. Probably because my employment environment seems to be very similar.
“Why Toilet?? It is the truth.”
Sorry, Neil. I don’t doubt you. I just find your displeasure with Russian Scientists (of all things) to be zany & amusing.
I believe what you are saying. 🙂
You’re also correct when you say “we all have our pet peeves”. Indeed we do!
You can tell you are from “the left” of politics. You always try to smear another human being if they say something you might disagree with.
Like who really give’s a flying fk about the English cricket team, Noddy?
Victor & Toillette … one reason I made money and retired early … competency based learning, health and safety and management systems all link to make a business productive … if you don’t understand how it works the whole thing becomes a smozzle … ie James Hardie used to put a budding “engineer” in the seat I had for six months so that he (sorry no females allowed at JH) could put the job title on his resume …
… when I was headhunted, that changed, in two years I had saved the company in excess of $2 million … OH&S can be lip serviced (as it usually is, to comply with legislation only) or worked as an effective business tool … in my days … BHPB knew that … Rio Tinto didn’t …
My employer is pro-active & balls deep in all of that, TB.
They lay it on so thick that we get sick of hearing about it…but it does permeate the culture & is part of the reason why it’s such a great place to work.
I see ToM’s been toughing whilst allied with a Green over at TPS.
Quite extraordinary really.
I especially liked the post from one compassionate actual member of the ALP who to paraphrase basically said he does not care that people are drowning because they knew the risks when they decided to jump on the leaking boats.
Yeah……………I suppose all those pre school infants on the boats that sank really had it coming to them
Sigh…This entire story becomes more ludicrous every day…Anybody with a brain knows what is going on here. Reminds me so much of the insanity surrounding our immigration fiasco here…The “economic migrant” who comes by air, washes up or is shipped in via the Australian Navy is simply that…Calling them “Refugees” is just being plain dishonest… We all know “real” refugees do not have the bank account or means of any kind to get to the west. If they call them what they are, neither side has a pot to piss in here…It is very simple, more freedom, no rule of law and incompetent “feel good “policies throughout the West has allowed for the movement of millions of people from the developing nations to come pouring into our backyards and with it, yes a variety of foods..LOL…They come by illegal and legal means because we take anybody and I mean anybody. The new immigration standards needed to gain admission into the West;
1) Be poor “looking”
2) Have a sad story
3) Be versed in victimhood
4) Pound fist and demand “rights”
5) Have a well funded ethnic lobby group
6) Immigration attorney
7) Be prepared to break/circumvent immigration laws as your first act as a new citizen of whatever country you are looking to set up house in
8) Bonus: bring along a child, mention a child, be a woman; all of the above captured in a photo…
Singapore are tightening immigration laws by requiring that someone must earn $3K per month on a consistent basis before any relatives can be brought in via family reunion schemes.
Bloody Rascists !
On my calculations, asylum seekers arriving by sea have added about 0.2% to the population over the past 30 years. I’m really not sure it represents a “problem”.
By the way, I quite liked the way Marilyn took on all the u-turn/volte face/back flip supporters at TPS. She had the facts, combined with plenty of vigour!
Tom,
Well a “problem” in the sense of the Australian population yes, you are probably right but it is also the larger issue of cost and rule of law in the sense of your country.. Lets not forget however, that once here it is much easier for arrivals (boat or air) to bring in most of their immediate family…Boat arrivals alone cost Australian taxpayers around 700 billion a year to process and this number is expected to grow under current practices…This does not even include fly-ins…It is a simple question; is Australia a nation of laws or isn’t it? To what obligation do “average” Australians have to the billions around the world who can make the exact same claims? Last time I checked you had soldiers dying to make life better for some of the very same folks and spending hundreds of millions of dollars on said operations?
It is also a simple question of fairness that nobody, especially the “human rights lobby” cares to address or acknowledge, why should “arrivals” be provided for first over those who go about it the “right” way without the advantage of the purse? Personally, anybody in any country outside the west can find a situation in which they could claim “persecution”…A whole new system needs to be devised and the antiquated 1951 convention thrown out…
Boat arrivals alone cost Australian taxpayers around 700 billion a year to process and this number is expected to grow under current practices…”
Um, I think that represents about 70% of the GDP, so I suspect the number may be out by a minor factor of about 1000.
No worries though!
I don’t think we have a problem, Australia has managed to successfully absorb many millions of people of diverse culture without much difficulty.
Even PJ O’Rourke, a conservative and hilarious write from your way, thinks that the asylum sdders who reach Australia are showing the very characteristics that we should have more of.
I agree.
Though when he advocates “Eat the Rich” I think he’s overreaching.
Sparta makes some good points. I happen to agree that many ‘boat people’ are economic refugees. But I’d also agree with Sinclair Davidson that such demonstrably hard-working (they’ve accumulated enough money to get here), risk-taking (dangerous sea voyage, anyone?), ambitious people will make a positive contribution to our country.
One caveat: Open borders on the condition that welfare is unavailable. You’re welcome as long as you pay your own way, or work for a living.
I think it’s a matter of obligation. If someone arrives here and requests our protection, I don’t think we should just react by sending them to Malaysia, or Nauru.
It simply isn’t fair, it’s too cruel. It doesn’t pass a test of reasonableness, it’s a huge over reaction to a very minor issue.
Tom,
LMAO! To right! My apologies, that was 700 million..Guess I still have TARP on the brain!!!!
I can agree with you on the contribution bit to some extent but I think what really gets under my crawl about this story or the American version, is simply the illegality and those that try to morally justify such acts. We have plenty of laws; to the extent that we could stop writing them all together here for some time but what we don’t have is enforcement..The West in general is really starting to feel like a Banana Republic…Seems we can equivocate on just about issue so what is the point of law again? Seems the only law government doesn’t budge on is tax! They will still lock you up for that one, no matter the story! Anyhow, as anybody in their situation would do, they will keep coming so you guys might as well build a bridge…
“illegals live it up at luxury resorts and treat our NRMA like a bloody taxi service!”
Are you sure you didn’t mean to write “treat our RAN like the NRMA?” Ooops, and oh yeah it is legally not illegal to seek asylum. We are signatory to the convention.
I agree with Tony and Sinclair Davidson.
Then they wouldn’t have to destroy their ID before illegally entering Australian waters.