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Rostrum: Special “Protect Our Country” Edition!

July 13, 2012

Hello

Good afternoon and welcome to another Weekend Rostrum; the chance for you – YES YOU – dear cherished readers and co-conspirators to talk about anything that springs to mind.

Melbourne.

Melbourne, Melbourne Melbourne.

Today I enjoyed a rather civilised lunch at a little gem of a place called “Rare Steakhouse” on Little Collins Street.

Tom would like it.  With an extensive wine list of premium reds and food consisting predominantly of “steak” done a dozen ways or thereabouts, it exuded the charm and sophistication of a gentleman’s club.

And not long after my dining companions had been seated at our specially reserved table, who should wander in the door but the former champion of the World’s Greatest Economy, Peter Costello.

I thought about yelling out “Gidday Tip” but discretion became the better part of valour so I restrained myself.

Obviously Tip isn’t attending the Liberal Party conference in Brisbane.  And who can blame him?

Tony Abbott is already waxing lyrical..

According to Mr Abbott, “The Federal Coalition is on the cusp of something great and will rescue the country” he  declared to the party faithful in Brisbane earlier this afternoon.

“I believe that all of us in this room all of us in the Liberal and National parties around our country stand on the threshold of something great,” he said.

“We stand on the threshold of riding to the rescue of our country.”

“I stress it is not about us … It is about building a better country. We can do it. We can do it. We are a great people whose best days are in front of us, a great people held back momentarily by a bad government.

“Can’t you feel it in the streets? The Australian people are willing us to succeed.”

The carbon tax also came in for attack.

“Day 13 of the carbon tax and still the Prime Minister of this country has not been game to face up to a single small business [to discuss the impacts],” he said.

He also had a dig at Julia Gillard over “the disaster on our borders” and accused the Prime Minister of turning the Navy “into a water taxi service for people smugglers”.

“This is a government which is utterly incompetent and utterly untrustworthy,” Abbott said.

“We have a government which can execute a prime minister but which cannot execute a program … There are millions of decent Australians who regard themselves as honest Labor people who feel utterly let down by the current government.”

The Coalition’s policies to turn back asylum seeker boats have raised fears of the dangers to navy personnel, but Abbott said that Julia Gillard should have given the navy new orders to “do your job, protect our country”.

I mean we are under attack aren’t we?

Why won’t Julia protect our country?

Why does she hate us so?

 

 

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325 Comments leave one →
  1. July 13, 2012 4:54 pm

    Fuck, Abbott is a tosser.

    unfknblvbl

  2. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 13, 2012 4:56 pm

    “This is a government which is utterly incompetent and utterly untrustworthy,”

    So far, so good. But then:

    Abbott said.

    Arghhhh!

    How can we convince the Coalition to behave any better when their turn comes? The signs are not good.

  3. July 13, 2012 4:57 pm

    I’m inspired……..

    “Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men…..”

  4. July 13, 2012 5:00 pm

    They won’t behave & we all know it.

    They’ll rout the ALP & then carry on like egomaniacal snots with a mandate to inflict their hybrid fetishes upon us all.

    Shit sandwich or gargle broken glass?…not much of a choice.

  5. July 13, 2012 5:01 pm

    “Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men…..”

    Fuck Collingwood! with a clawhammer

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    July 13, 2012 5:01 pm

    James, did you read sreb’s thread? 🙄

  7. July 13, 2012 5:02 pm

    He’s riding to your rescue, snacty. 😉 He’s bringing his arseclowns posse.

  8. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 13, 2012 5:06 pm

    “Shit sandwich or gargle broken glass?”

    I know that’s the choice, but I really don’t want to think about it. Does my head in.

    Hit us with some high class metal. It’s after 5 and I’ll get away with playing it in the office.

  9. el gordo permalink
    July 13, 2012 5:08 pm

    ‘…the Prime Minister of this country has not been game to face up to a single small business [to discuss the impacts],” he said.’

    That’s true and we have been waiting patiently…it doesn’t look good.

  10. TB Queensland permalink
    July 13, 2012 5:08 pm

    They’ll rout the ALP & then carry on like egomaniacal snots with a mandate

    Yep! Like Howard and his “we will not run riot in Parliament when we control both Houses” … yeah, like fk he didn’t!

    It’s not so much that the ALP is “bad” they are just outgunned in the BS stakes all the time …

    “We have a government which can execute a prime minister but which cannot execute a program … ”

    What utter nonsense! Day 13 of the Carbon Tax … WTF is that if its not a “program” …

    And I must admit the sky has fallen in Brisbane … it hasn’t stopped raining for a fkn week … its like living in Melbourne … cold, miserable, miserable people …

  11. July 13, 2012 5:12 pm

    Classy intro from Oppenheimer (?)…

  12. July 13, 2012 5:15 pm

    Inhuman blastbeating…

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    July 13, 2012 5:16 pm

    sp … sp … sp … 😯

  14. el gordo permalink
    July 13, 2012 5:20 pm

    ‘It’s not so much that the ALP is “bad”…’

    That’s not how the majority of Australians see it.

    ‘We are a great people whose best days are in front of us, a great people held back momentarily by a bad government.’

    Yep, noice…very noice, this is the government we have to have because the other side is pathetic. Or perhaps the barrackers here would like another decade of ALP dysfunction just for the fun of it?

    This is not a personality contest.

  15. July 13, 2012 5:21 pm

    Haha, had to repeat the big word for ya, TB. 😉

  16. July 13, 2012 5:22 pm

    Which barrackers here would they be? 😯

    I don’t see any. james has gone

  17. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 13, 2012 5:24 pm

    Definitely feeling happier now thanks Boss. A surge of adrenalin sharpens the brain.

  18. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 13, 2012 5:27 pm

    The second one is even better! Fabulous! Who cares about politics! I might even do some work now.

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    July 13, 2012 5:33 pm

    I have a suspicion that, egg, is not from here? I’ve checked with, The Mothership, and they assure me it is not one of us … it just doesn’t seem to be like you humans either … :mrgreen:

  20. JAWS permalink
    July 13, 2012 6:01 pm

    Just back from picking a few things up from the shops with Mrs Jaws.

    I’ve been going to the same BBQ chicken shop for a few months now as I like to treat my 2 four Maltese legged friends to a whole bbq chicken each weekend plus sometimes on a Friday night we get ourselves one as well.

    Usually the owner doesn’t say much at all but I think he is getting much better at English (he’s mainland Chinese). Anyway tonight the conversation went like this.

    Me: I’ll have 2 chickens please

    Shopowner : Ok no probrem……………..you have big famiry ?

    Me: Ummmmmm……………Yes……….me………….my wife…………………and ummmmmm…………….a 12 and 11 year old.

    Shopowner: What you have ?

    Me : One of each.

    Shopowner: Oh ……..boy and girl……….varewee nice………………….almost twins ?

    Me: Ummmmmmmm………….No ……………….Ahhhh………..they were born in the same year. Mummy got pregnant almost immediately after the first was born

    ********At this point Mrs Jaws has to walk away as she’s cant hold herself together*****

    Shopowner: They blonde like you ?

    Me: Matter of fact…………….they both have fair hair

    Shopowner: You must wun awound a lot on weekend for sport

    Me: No……………they prefer to exercise just by walking.

    Shopowner: So no wunning

    Me: Ohhhhhh………………………sometimes they like a run along the beach.

    Shopowner: They like swimming

    Me: No…………..they don’t really like the water that much

    Shopowner: Oh…………..ha…ha…ha….ha………………..here your change

    Me :Thanks……………….see you next time

  21. July 13, 2012 6:13 pm

    Very funny Jaws…

    Reminds me of a Chinese friend of mine…

    Me: So what have you been up to ..?

    Him: Went to see a movie in a weeken.

    Me: Oh, which one..?

    Him: Shinner Wrist.

    Me: What..?

    Him: Shinner Wrist.

    Me: I’m sorry, come again…?

    him: SHINNER WRIST!

    Me: I’m sorry I really didn’t catch that…

    Him: “Shin-ner Wrist.”

    Me: Oh, “Schindler’s List.”

  22. el gordo permalink
    July 13, 2012 6:21 pm

    ‘I’ve checked with, The Mothership, and they assure me it is not one of us …’

    They would say that…

  23. JAWS permalink
    July 13, 2012 6:26 pm

    LOL………..”Shin-ner Wrist”

    Yeah…………I just couldn’t bring myself to tell him I was going to feed his really lovely chicken to the dogs.

    I thought he might feel a bit insulted as he seems very proud of his BBQ chickens as they have proved very popular in that strip of shops

  24. JAWS permalink
    July 13, 2012 6:29 pm

    Villa Maria at $10.00 a bottle……………………….and here’s some Heathcote Shiraz for ToM.

    I dont drink it so have no idea if its a good price………

    https://www.kemenys.com.au/go.jsp#!class=Tab&theme=RedWines

  25. July 13, 2012 6:30 pm

    “I thought he might feel a bit insulted as he seems very proud of his BBQ chickens”

    I think that’s very culturally sensitive of you Jaws. I think he would’ve ben mortified!

  26. JAWS permalink
    July 13, 2012 6:32 pm

    Yep

    Time for a drink

    Off to pry open the garage fridge for a James Squire

  27. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 13, 2012 6:34 pm

    The Taltani is pretty good. I’ll buy a few dozen of that.

    What do you do with the Villa Maria, clean the bumper bar of deflea the dog?

  28. July 13, 2012 6:35 pm

    Here’s another one – This is all true…!

    Him: Do you want some dessert…?

    Me: What have you got…?

    Him: Celery.

    Me: What..?

    Him: Celery.

    Me: You eat celery, for dessert…?

    Him: Sure, why not…?

    Me: Well it’s just that most people don’t usually eat celery for dessert…

    Him: Yes they do…

    Me: Oh come on, they do not.

    Him: We do, we have it all the time. You just heat it up and serve it with ice cream.

    Me: That sounds disgusting.

    Him: No it’s nice I’ll show you. (Goes to the fridge, comes back)

    Me: Oh (I said), you mean Sarah Lee…!!!

  29. July 13, 2012 6:37 pm

    Anyone else seen ‘The Dictator”?

    I thought it was piss funny.

    Cohen knows how to pull the taboo levers.

    Not for the politically correct or easily offended.

  30. JAWS permalink
    July 13, 2012 6:38 pm

    LOL

    Yes ToM as well as the shower screeens.

    What do you usually pay for the Taltarni ?

  31. JAWS permalink
    July 13, 2012 6:38 pm

    LOL @ celery

  32. July 13, 2012 6:39 pm

    “Not for the politically correct or easily offended.”

    That rules out the “non-trolls” then.

    Has anyone seen The Cabin in the Woods…?

  33. July 13, 2012 6:39 pm

    What made me think of it (I only watched it last night) is that he has a fair go at mocking the Chinese (among almost every other racial/sexual stereotype you can think of).
    Sorta like what you guys are doing now. 🙂

  34. July 13, 2012 6:41 pm

    Yeah, I’ve seen a shit copy of Cabin a while back. Handycam kinda killed what probably would have otherwise been an ok slasher flick with a bit of a twist.

    Not as good as the raving about it, I thought, but not the worst I’ve ever seen either.

  35. July 13, 2012 6:45 pm

    Oh ok thanks Boss, I’ll wait for the DVD in that case…

  36. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 13, 2012 6:51 pm

    I saw “The Dictator”. It’s my kind of film.
    ———————
    Taltani doesn’t really sell for its RRP, but I quite like it and buy up when it’s this price – good quaffing.

  37. Che Chavez Chomsky permalink
    July 13, 2012 8:34 pm

    Film about Dictator mildly amusing. Not funny as Glorious Leader Abbott take rightful place on throne. Re-education camps will filled with non-trolls. 😯

  38. July 13, 2012 9:16 pm

    You didn’t like the way that Al Adeen held a mirror up to the stupid Americans at the end, did you ,Che.

  39. James of North Melbourne permalink
    July 13, 2012 9:20 pm

    Fuck well haven’t we all turned into a bunch of racist plicks?

  40. July 13, 2012 9:24 pm

    Just getting ready to blend into Glorious Leader Abbott’s new reign, so as not to be conspicuous & thus re-educated as a non-troll.

  41. July 13, 2012 9:24 pm

    Solly bloss.

  42. July 13, 2012 9:28 pm

    “well haven’t we all turned into a bunch of racist plicks?”

    Not at all….!

    Simply recalling real life events….

    I would add that my Chinese friends also saw the humour when I explained it to them….

  43. el gordo permalink
    July 13, 2012 9:53 pm

    The Chinese turn their collective backs on the Euro…

    ‘The single currency has been sliding relentlessly since the European Central Bank cut its discount rate to zero last week, triggering an exodus of money market funds, but has now broken key resistance levels watched by technical analysts.’

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

  44. JAWS permalink
    July 13, 2012 10:18 pm

    A good mate of mine who is born in australia of Chinese parents once said to me when I complained about the driving skills of Asian drivers he said……..

    ” if you really don’t like Asian drivers then just stay off the fucking footpaths Ok “

  45. JAWS permalink
    July 13, 2012 10:22 pm

    So ToM

    I ordered 60 bottles of Villa Maria for the wife and then announced my intention of opening a combined car and dog wash joint.

  46. el gordo permalink
    July 14, 2012 7:42 am

    I’m in favor of drug law reform and ‘pork eating’ is ahead of me.

    ‘The former prime minister, who lives in neighbouring Potts Point, said Cr Moore had presided over the growth in licensed premises, which had turned the city into ”an inebriate’s spittoon”.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/the-queen-of-grog-keating-lashes-moore-over-cross-crisis-20120713-221e0.html#ixzz20XbPV2xv

  47. el gordo permalink
    July 14, 2012 6:00 pm

    Clive Palmer (wobber barren) is flying kites on getting into the media game.

    ‘BILLIONAIRE mining magnate Clive Palmer says he is considering launching an online newspaper, which he wants to call Rage, to be staffed with journalists laid off by Fairfax.

    “One of the things we are thinking about very seriously is running an online news service across Australia and offering some hope to all the journalists that are being dismissed at The Age and Fairfax,” he told reporters in Brisbane.’

    Andrew Bolt is upset because he didn’t mention employing limited News staff too.

  48. Take A Wrong Rhine permalink
    July 14, 2012 6:05 pm

    Ferrous reader misser a bit know rike carpet tacks.

  49. July 14, 2012 6:24 pm

    Wichmond gletting bleaten by winless Gold Cwoast Suns. 😆

  50. Take A Wrong Rhine permalink
    July 14, 2012 6:38 pm

    😯

  51. July 14, 2012 7:12 pm

    SUUUUUUUUUUNZ !!! 😯

  52. Take A Wrong Rhine permalink
    July 14, 2012 7:14 pm

    Car miker hunt. 😯

  53. Take A Wrong Rhine permalink
    July 14, 2012 7:16 pm

    Tigas brone seezin. 😦

  54. July 14, 2012 7:20 pm

    Didn’t see the game, but was watching live score on superfooty site. Did Hunt seal it? Fuck, it must have been a close finish. Suns were down by 10 with only a few minutes remaining.

    In other happy news, Port got absofuckenlutely humiliated in a last qtr onslaught by the smelly demons.

    Go West Coast fuck the handbagz GO GEELONG, fuck Collingwood…

  55. Rah Rah Rand permalink
    July 14, 2012 7:21 pm

    (I’m not surprised, really. They lost the same game last year in Cairns, criticised as to why they’d give up a home game to play there.)

  56. July 14, 2012 7:22 pm

    Yeah, that does seem a bit silly. As if people in Cairns give a fuck about AFL.

  57. F.U.Dimitriou permalink
    July 14, 2012 7:29 pm

    It’s good for football, though. 🙄 🙄 🙄

  58. Luck Bro permalink
    July 14, 2012 7:38 pm

    Nothing for it but to watch taped Storm-Cowboys game. (What is it with these NRL morons folk that they have to give every team mate an American-style handshake cum shoulder touch cringy thing in the rooms before the game? I just do not get it!)

  59. F.U.N.Q. (F U Very Much) permalink
    July 14, 2012 7:44 pm

    Hmm. Don’t think I’ll bother. Just looked up the final scores. 🙄

  60. July 14, 2012 7:46 pm

    It’s a crap sport, boring to watch…there, I said it.

    Do yourself a favour & watch Geelong pillage Collingwood.

    I hate the national marketing of the AFL too. Demetriou has made it into a business where there used to be a sport.

  61. July 14, 2012 8:19 pm

    facepalm @ Geelong

  62. Doug Wilson permalink
    July 14, 2012 8:19 pm

    Watchin’ Weeds instead.

  63. el gordo permalink
    July 14, 2012 8:41 pm

    Unusual taste ToSY?

  64. July 14, 2012 9:04 pm

    Weeds is funny shit.

  65. el gordo permalink
    July 14, 2012 9:20 pm

    😉

  66. July 15, 2012 12:01 am

    Any similarities to toxic tony’s party? Not hard to guess where his ‘policy’ originates.

    … But as I contemplate my party and my movement in 2011, I see things I simply cannot support.”

    Economist Brett Bartlett began his political career working for Republican Ron Paul in 1976. He went on to work for Reagan, helping to shape the economic reforms that became known as Reaganomics.

    In a February appearance on The Daily Show, Bartlett said: ”Frankly, one of our political parties is insane, and we all know which one it is.”

    When you discuss the Republican Party with him he seems baffled, outraged and hopeless.

    ”They have descended from the realm of reasonableness that was the mark of conservatism,” he says. ”They dream of anarchy, of ending government.” Bartlett argues a new radical right in the Republican Party will oppose anything – even good conservative policy – if Democrats agree to it.

    Driven by Bartlett’s friend Grover Norquist, the founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform, Republican members of Congress are urged – or bullied – into signing a pledge to support endless tax cuts.

    This mantra of cutting taxes in any circumstances, rather than setting policy in response to economic realities, is more akin to religious belief than sound policymaking, Bartlett says.

    ”And I don’t think it is a coincidence that the Republicans have become the party of religious fundamentalism,” he says, arguing that once you have accepted a set of ideas founded in belief rather than reason, it is easier to transpose similar thinking to politics.

    This is why, he says, many in the new right believe ideas that seem preposterous to those outside its circles. ”In a recent poll, only 31 per cent of Republicans believed Barack Obama was born in the United States. Who are the others? They are either stupid or crazy.”

    These others, he says, get their news entirely from right-wing media, which magnifies their dislocation from the real world.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/fighting-the-right-conservatives-find-republican-party-line-hard-to-follow-20120713-221ch.html#ixzz20ba6Bf1U

  67. el gordo permalink
    July 15, 2012 8:00 am

    How to catch a kangaroo.

  68. July 15, 2012 9:03 am

    “How to catch a kangaroo.”

    That’ll come in handy.

  69. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 15, 2012 10:53 am

    http://www.news.com.au/national/surfer-taken-by-shark-north-of-perth/story-fndo4e3y-1226425990874

    PATROL vessels will continue their search to catch and cull the “massive” white shark that killed a male surfer in Western Australia.
    The 4m killer dubbed Brutus by surfers near Wedge Island, 180km north of Perth mauled a 24-year-old man as he surfed with a mate at 9am yesterday.
    The victim, whose identity is yet to be released, was surfing about 200 metres off an isolated beach, the WA Department of Fisheries said.


    I think it’s time for shark culling. Surfing seems to be an increasingly popular activity and shark attacks seem to be occurring with increasing regularity. Sharks are beyond endangered and people who enjoy the water are should be able to do this without being munched.

  70. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 15, 2012 11:48 am

    http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/warne-forms-great-partnership-with-teenage-refugee-20120714-222s3.html

    If the ALP* barrackers had their way, anyone similar to this fellow would be in Malaysia.

    *Or for that matter the Liberal ones would have him in Nauru.

  71. Meta permalink
    July 15, 2012 12:04 pm

    (Yeppers*.)

  72. July 15, 2012 12:07 pm

    I think it’s time for shark culling. Surfing seems to be an increasingly popular activity and shark attacks seem to be occurring with increasing regularity.

    I’m not a surfer so don’t comment from that perspective but as a lover of nature.

    Why must the animal world be controlled to suit the whims and wishes of humans?

    Shouldn’t people go into the surf with the knowledge that there are dangerous sea creatures living there in their own natural habitat? They wouldn’t go into the remote and wild outback with the same attitude would they?

    Why must the natural world be continually forced to exist to the demands of humans? Now if surfers know there is a man eating shark at that particular spot, shouldn’t they stay away? If they must surf there it is entirely at their own risk, but don’t kill sea creatures just because of a selfish wish to play in their yard. We all know that once they give the green light to something like culling, greedy humans go into overdrive and next thing the species is facing extinction.

    Why not just leave it all alone and let adaptation take it’s course? The sea is collecting all that increased CO2, some humans don’t want to do anything about that problem at all, so who knows how many shark species will survive! [waiting now for the cavalry, I hear the sound of a bugle to rally the troops].

  73. el gordo permalink
    July 15, 2012 12:08 pm

    Afternoon Meta…enjoyable read ToM. Not sure what the barrackers believe anymore on the subject of asylum seekers.

    But I think its disgraceful TDT is not on the cafe’s blogroll.

  74. July 15, 2012 12:53 pm

    Well TomM, it seems the NSW Labor machine is determined that Labor needs to wipe out the Greens as their election strategy. The Greens are seen as a similar threat as Hanson was to the Libs, but Labor are still not quite as lowdown criminal as the Libs were with tony abbott carrying out a political assassination and funding her to be jailed. Anyone who wants to know the lengths that tony abbott will go to for his own interests need only remember the “Australians for Honest Politics” secret slush fund that abbott has never been held to account over.

    John Faulkner is a lone voice at the conference telling Labor that maybe their problem is not the external threat of the Greens and preferences but of Labor refusing to look at themselves and what they stand for and why they are not getting the primary votes. Faulkner got told to shut up, no one wants to hear him [I paraphrase].

    The NSW Labor right wing are the problem, not the solution, there must be some kind of anomaly in the system that they can effectively dictate all things Labor. So, according to NSW Labor, they only have to demonise the Greens party and Labor refugee voters will all flock back to them. Simple really isn’t it?

    I despair of Labor these days, they deserve to be abandoned by the voters. Toxic Tony is not deserving of the election win, he lies, misrepresents, backflips, fudges and conceals his true position to profit from a complete lack of scrutiny which will give an undeserving easy ride into the lodge.

  75. el gordo permalink
    July 15, 2012 12:55 pm

    ‘The sea is collecting all that increased CO2, some humans don’t want to do anything about that problem at all…’

    Some of us don’t see that as a problem, apparently its natural and been going for a considerable length of time…a little more or less is well within adaptable limits.

    Acidification is porky propaganda and you would be well advised to look at the alternative view before jumping to erroneous conclusions.

  76. el gordo permalink
    July 15, 2012 2:22 pm

    Discussions on this issue are best conducted in the back room.

  77. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 15, 2012 2:41 pm

    AO – ” John Faulkner is a lone voice at the conference telling Labor that maybe their problem is not the external threat of the Greens and preferences but of Labor refusing to look at themselves and what they stand for and why they are not getting the primary votes. Faulkner got told to shut up, no one wants to hear him

    That’s the point really, isn’t it? No one in the ALP wants to deal with their problems and structure. They had the report by Hawke and Wran a decade ago, which was shelved. Then the one by Faulkner etc, that they won’t deal with.

    They don’t stand for anything, they’re a philosophical vacuum, reacting only to the daily swings in political issues.
    —————-
    ” Why must the animal world be controlled to suit the whims and wishes of humans?

    I’m not too bothered personally, but surfing is increasingly popular. My kids are very keen, and are probably tasty! Personally I’d poison a shark.

    I think if hikers were being routinely mauled and killed by packs of dingo, there would probably be some control and support for eradication.
    —————-
    ” But I think its disgraceful TDT is not on the cafe’s blogroll.

    That’s interesting. They really shun, insult and ban are uncomfortable with alternative opinions, that are more complicated than arguing that Malaysia is better than Nauru, Gillard is nicer than Abbott, Wilkie has now lost his sense and it wasn’t a lie anyway.

  78. el gordo permalink
    July 15, 2012 2:50 pm

    On second thoughts ToM, its probably a good thing that they are too embarrassed to hang out with us.

  79. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 15, 2012 3:20 pm

    http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/qantas-motion-moved-at-labor-conference/story-e6frfku9-1226426482870

    Under the Qantas Sale Act of 1992, the airline is required to have its headquarters in Australia and be majority Australian-owned.
    But unions believe Qantas could get around the Act by employing more maintenance workers in Asia at its budget carrier Jetstar and other future offshoots.
    TWU national secretary Tony Sheldon, a delegate to the NSW Labor conference, is moving a motion on Sunday afternoon, which would call on the Act to include Jetstar and any other Qantas subsidiary.
    “The proposed legislation would include the entire Qantas group and where it’s invested its money,” Mr Sheldon told AAP outside Sydney Town Hall.
    “Anyone flying in our air space, Qantas or others, should be turning around and paying Australian wages and conditions and providing where it’s appropriate Australian jobs.”

    Unions won’t be satisfied until they’ve killed Qantas.

    This is typical of the problem of union affiliation. Why bring a narrow industrial relations perspective to the conference of the party of government? It’s pathetic and typical of the TWU.

  80. el gordo permalink
    July 15, 2012 4:21 pm

    Joe Kelly in the Oz.

    ‘ENVIRONMENT Minister Tony Burke has backed the heated political row with the Greens as a necessary reassertion of core Labor values, opening up the prospect of the minor party refusing to compromise on other major issues such as water reform.’

    Good news, bring on the split and scrap the Murray Darling Basin Authority.

  81. Protection Racket permalink
    July 15, 2012 4:59 pm

    The reason western democracies are supposed to operate under the rule of law is so that governments don’t enact arbitrary legislation where decisions are made to favour the interests of one party over another. Laws should be the general rules of the game where all players can predict how the state will act under a particular set of circumstances.

    What the TWU is doing is pressuring its cronies in government to change the rules – of a game that has been running for twenty years – because it suits the union’s best interests but doesn’t sufficiently (if at all) consider Qantas’s interests. That kind of arbitrary rule making is the sort of thing centrally planned economies do, not free market ones.

  82. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 15, 2012 6:20 pm

    The ALP is full of this crap.

    Unions think the ALP exists to legislate in favour of their narrow interests, and to give them a job as an MP.

    How can Qantas compete against Virgin, let alone internationally, when it is up against this?

    It is typical of “the dead hand of unionism”

  83. July 15, 2012 8:10 pm

    I’m with kitty on the sharks.

    Personally, I think they’re the coolest beasties on the planet & should be protected at all costs.
    Interestingly, the loved ones of most victims are usually very forthright that they understood the risk & would never have wanted retribution upon the animals.
    Let’s face it, humans in the ocean are like turtles on a beach, cumbersome, awkward & vulnerable. Great Whites for the win!

    They are everywhere down here in the cold water, routinely sited. I think that’s great & wouldn’t have it any other way. If you don’t want to be devoured, stay the fuck out of the water & forego the fun. 😉
    It all comes down to balance of probability. In my mind, the odds of being taken are infinitesimally small…& if you do get taken you won’t even know about it prior to being dismembered & are powerless to stop it anyway.
    It comes back to an innate fear that people have of being eaten alive (understandably)…probably goes back to caveman survivalism.

    When I think of the countless hours I’ve spent floating around out the back, waiting for sets, by myself…well, I think that the pleasure far outweighs the risk & the potential for devourement is negligible.

    The only reason that “if hikers were being routinely mauled and killed by packs of dingo, there would probably be some control and support for eradication”…is because surfers have a decent set of swingers & hikers are WEAK AS PISS ! .

  84. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 15, 2012 9:09 pm

    Well, I too an m a hardened male!

    I’m really not bothered about my personal safety, the odds against being munched personally are off the scale. I’m just not fond of continuing to read about surfers being eaten.

    As evidence of my rugged danger laden surfing – I’ve surfed at Victor Harbour and Middleton!

  85. July 15, 2012 9:17 pm

    Hahaha.

    So have I! many times. Middleton point. Waitpinga (Great White Heaven), Parson’s Point (Great White Hell- have nearly drowned there). All can be great on their day! 🙂

  86. July 15, 2012 9:22 pm

    Don’t get me wrong. What happened to the poor fella in WA was horrifying, gruesome & frightening. Props to the tower on the jetski who tried to recover the body.
    That sort of stuff is shocking.

    I read that the shark was known to have been around for a couple of days(?). I also read that there was a guy out for a surf in the same spot, alone, within 24 hrs of the attack.
    Such is the nature of the world’s greatest leisure activity.

  87. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 15, 2012 9:45 pm

    “Such is the nature of the world’s greatest leisure activity.

    I’ve wimped out of the water for 2 weekends. I’m afraid of the cold (rather than sharks) after nearly 2 weeks of tropical surfing.

  88. July 16, 2012 12:40 am

    Conservatives know how to address disadvantage and make aboriginals feel included and appreciated.

    LNP pushes to scrap Abstudy payments

    …”We believe that there should be one single welfare system for all Australians,” he said.

    “That will add to Indigenous reconciliation, it will add to the appreciation and recognition that Indigenous people have within Australia.

    “I believe we are one country and as such we should have one welfare system.”

    But Federal MP Paul Neville argued against the move, saying that education is the key to breaking down Indigenous disadvantage.

    “Please, I beg you do not do this,” he said.

    “If you want to put up a motion [for] some future states to rejig Abstudy, to make it more effective I’d support that.

    “But to remove it I think it would brand us as a mob of bigots.”…

    yep.

  89. JAWS permalink
    July 16, 2012 9:39 am

    “if hikers were being routinely mauled and killed by packs of dingo, there would probably be some control and support for eradication”

    That’s because on dry land us humans are pretty much safely at the top of the food chain even unarmed. And we are at the top of the food chain when we have a rifle in hand. We don’t take kindl;y to that position being placed under threat.

    Venturing into a different food chain (the oceans) throws up all manner of different consequences.

  90. el gordo permalink
    July 16, 2012 9:56 am

    Problem solved?

    http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3546383.htm

  91. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 16, 2012 11:55 am

    “Unions think the ALP exists to legislate in favour of their narrow interests, and to give them a job as an MP.”

    That is because the ALP is a subsidiary of the union movement. Unions formed the ALP in the first place and have special voting rights to ensure they keep control of it.

    The connections between the Liberals and big business are more subtle, except in Queensland where the LNP is run by millionaires for the benefit of billionaires.

  92. July 16, 2012 12:54 pm

    Fck that. If I have a spear gun and I see a shark, it’s flake for dinner for the whole family.

  93. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 16, 2012 12:54 pm

    Getting rid of Abstudy – that’s just further evidence of stupid policy.

    Though I don’t think the government has done anything in this area since the apology.
    ——————
    Barrackers really have no idea of the structure of the ALP, how many have actually experienced the “joys” of membership, and members not having any control of the organisation they join?

  94. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 16, 2012 2:40 pm

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/gillard-targets-workplace-as-election-hotspot-20120715-224bk.html

    How many times can the ALP play the scare game on IR? 2007, 2010 and 2013 and beyond!

    When the same slogans are repeated for over half a decade, it’s a fair indication of a party that has “lost its way”

    Gillard is a vote anvil rather than the anticipated vote magnet.

    (though I did note in her speech over the weekend she used both :party” and “pardy” – Gillard is broadening her appeal!)

  95. el gordo permalink
    July 16, 2012 4:33 pm

    The pardy, party joke is worth bottling.

    Gillard doesn’t appreciate the mood of the electorate, she should get out more. Christopher Pyne’s rhetorical throwaway is closer to the mark.

    ”The next election will be a referendum on the carbon tax and it will be an election on who is best to defend our borders from what currently is a deluge of asylum seekers.”

  96. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 16, 2012 4:38 pm

    How many times Will the libs want to ‘reform’ IR?
    Permanent agenda item of theirs .

  97. JAWS permalink
    July 16, 2012 4:43 pm

    Does anyone konw if this was passed at a vote. Seems to have gone unmentioned in the Press today

    DOW Jones

    Australia’s Labor Party to Vote on Expanding Qantas Sale Act to Jetstar

    – Report

    12/07/2012 08:13PM AEST

    SYDNEY–Australia’s ruling Labor party will vote Sunday on a motion to prevent Qantas Airways (QAN.AU) from employing more Asian maintenance workers through its budget Jetstar carrier, AAP reports.

    Under the 1992 Qantas Sale Act, the airline is required to have its headquarters in Australia and be majority Australian-owned.

    But unions believe Qantas could get round this provision by employing more maintenance workers in Asia through Jetstar and other future offshoots.

    Transport Workers Union National Secretary Tony Sheldon told AAP at the New South Wales state Labor conference that he has put forward a motion to expand the act to Qantas’ subsidiaries.

    “The proposed legislation would include the entire Qantas group and where it’s invested money,” he was quoted as saying. “Anyone flying in our airspace, Qantas or others, should be turning around and paying Australian wages and conditions.”

  98. Tony permalink
    July 16, 2012 5:10 pm

    An old, blind cowboy wanders into an all-girl biker bar by mistake. He finds his way to a bar stool and orders a shot of Jack Daniels. After sitting there for a while, he yells to the bartender, ‘Hey, you wanna hear a blonde joke?’

    The bar immediately falls absolutely silent.

    In a very deep, husky voice, the woman next to him says, ‘Before you tell that joke, Cowboy, I think it is only fair, given that you are blind, that you should know five things:

    1. The bartender is a blonde girl with a baseball bat.

    2. The bouncer is a blonde girl with a ‘Billy-Club’.

    3. I’m a 6-foot tall, 175-pound blonde woman with a black belt in karate.

    4. The woman sitting next to me is blonde and a professional weight lifter.

    5. The lady to your right is blonde and a professional wrestler.

    ‘Now, think about it seriously, Cowboy. Do you still wanna tell that blonde joke?’

    The blind cowboy thinks for a second, shakes his head and mutters, ‘No, not if I’m gonna have to explain it five times.’

  99. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 16, 2012 5:28 pm

    Sheldon couldn’t beat Qantas in the IR game, so he’s after his political party to do his bidding. That’s the contemporary ALP, it exists to help unions sort out employers they don’t like.
    ——————–
    That’s funny Tony. I’ve also used the other one you posted about the “sportsman’s triple” or whatever it was.

  100. July 16, 2012 5:39 pm

    “Fck that. If I have a spear gun and I see a shark, it’s flake for dinner for the whole family.”

    #1- You would nary even see the mofo coming

    #2- A speargun wouldn’t be much disincentive to a White pointer

    #3- Chicks don’t surf 😉

  101. el gordo permalink
    July 16, 2012 6:28 pm

    ‘A Whitsundays backpacker resort has placed a blanket ban on Irish guests because of drunken behaviour.

    ‘Manager of Main Street Backpackers in Proserpine, Thomas Dunne, Irish himself, said many of the incidents involving Irish backpackers have caused deliberate damage to his property. This year he has accepted only eight Irish guests and six of these have been thrown out. The last two were charged with willful damage to the hostel and ordered to pay $410 to the owner of the hostel.

    “What can I say, we can’t tar everyone with the same brush, but yes we have had enough of the Irish backpackers who stay at our accommodation,” Mr Dunne said.’

  102. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 16, 2012 7:06 pm

    I don’t normally post at Peter Wick’s blog, but he’s been doing his investigation of Kathy Jackson, and given that I’m interested in the HSU/Thomson sage, I thought I might as well. My post is in moderation. So just to see how long it remains in that state, I thought I’d post it here and have the clock running.
    ————————————–
    I’ve looked at some of the commentary from you, I wonder whether you could explain-
    • How Lawler could have influenced the FWA Thomson/HSU investigation given that it was mainly supervised by Tim Lee, who is a former ALP ministerial advisor, union official and an ALP appointee to FWA?
    • Given that Iain Ross was FWA President when the report was released, how could it be tainted as Ross is a respected jurist and a former ACTU official?
    • Given that there is a clear organisational separation between the investigatory division and the tribunal function, how was Lawler able to exert such influence?

    If you are unable to specifically address those points, I think your examination of Jackson could simply be a case of union bashing.

    Thanking you in advance for your reply.

  103. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 16, 2012 7:58 pm

    Well, it seems that Peter Wicks sells things. This means he mixes with many people, and in his opinion Lawler may have mixed with the guy doing the investigation, and therefore the guy doing the investigation thought it might be a great idea to issue a tainted report…

    Powerful and irrefutable evidence!!

  104. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 16, 2012 9:15 pm

    THE Supreme Court has ordered union officials and Toll employees to end their blockade of the Coles warehouse at Somerton.
    Striking workers shut down Coles’ National Distribution Centre last Tuesday, and no trucks have gone in or out since then.
    Justice Anne Ferguson this afternoon made an interim order, valid until Wednesday afternoon, that trucks be allowed back into the centre.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/supreme-court-orders-end-to-coles-picket-20120716-22602.html#ixzz20mc4NEyk

    Finally a little law put into the industrial equation. Striking is legal (flowing process), disruptive picketing isn’t.

  105. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 16, 2012 10:43 pm

    This evening I’ve had an interesting exchange with Peter Wicks about HSU/Thomson/Jackson.

    It’s now clarified a range of issues for me.

    • There is no evidence to suggest that Vice President Michael Lawler even attempted to influence the investigation into Thomson.
    • There is no explanation about how the “tainted” investigation could have occurred under the supervision of (former ALP ministerial advisor, and union official, and ALP FWA appointee) Tim Lee
    • No explanation of how (former ACTU official) FWA President could have allowed a “tainted” report to issued under his watch
    • The case against Kathy Jackson is non-traditional union bashing.
    • Wicks hopes that something might turn up.

    Interesting!!

  106. JAWS permalink
    July 16, 2012 10:55 pm

    First question of Q&A made the claim that WAs shark attacks are caused by offshore mining.

    LOL

  107. July 17, 2012 12:51 am

    This evening I’ve had an interesting exchange with Peter Wicks about HSU/Thomson/Jackson…

    You forget tomm that Lawler ensured he went on ‘long leave’ to avoid facing any questions in parliament and that it is only parliament that has the power to investigate lawler as an independent judicial officer.

    That’s pretty much end of story – no-one but parliament has the power and authority over Lawler, certainly no-one in FWA and Lawler made sure he wasn’t available [and he got away with it too…which I find disgusting].

    (7:30 Report)
    http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3512917.htm

    …LEIGH SALES: Last week in his address to the Parliament, Craig Thomson said he wanted Fair Work Australia to answer whether Michael Lawler, vice president of the organisation and the partner of Kathy Jackson, had any influence on the investigation. You’ve said today that because you’ve not been presented with any evidence of wrongdoing and because Mr Lawler is a sworn judicial officer, you won’t be investigating Mr Thomson’s allegation. In the interests of complete transparency, isn’t there merit in some level of investigation into those allegations?

    IAIN ROSS: Well, Leigh, the point I was making this morning is that it’s not a matter for me. Again, I’m not the head of a political party and vice president Lawler that’s not a backbencher. He’s an independent judicial officer. I have no powers of discipline over him. Those powers reside in the Parliament and that’s what the statute says…

    So it’s basically, Lawler told me he didn’t act improperly! I wish all court cases worked like that -noone would ever get jailed!

    …LEIGH SALES: If we accept that there is no evidence that Mr Lawler influenced the investigation, nonetheless we have seen evidence that Mr Lawler’s been involved in making a police complaint against HSU officials, that he had access to documents relating to internal HSU politics. In your view, is that appropriate for a member of Fair Work Australia?

    IAIN ROSS: Well, I’ve not seen any of those matters, Leigh…

    I saw nuffink, so it didn’t happen!

    …LEIGH SALES: Let me ask you though in your capacity as president of Fair Work Australia, do you stand 100 per cent behind the report into Craig Thomson and the HSU?

    IAIN ROSS: Leigh, as I mentioned before, the report has nothing to do with me. It’s not a function that’s conferred on me as president and I can’t separate my roles in the way you’ve suggested…

    …LEIGH SALES: You yourself today said in your statement before the Senate Estimates committee that public confidence in a justice institution …

    IAIN ROSS: Yes.

    LEIGH SALES: … is enhanced by increased transparency and accountability. Wouldn’t the allegations against Mr Lawler be a perfect opportunity to put that into practice, regardless of who investigates it?

    IAIN ROSS: Well, the question of who else might investigate these isn’t a matter for me. The point I made also is that I believe that a more transparent and accountable complaints mechanism in relation to tribunal members would be appropriate…

  108. July 17, 2012 12:53 am

    Prejudices rule when judging Labor:

    …Gillard’s problem is not bad policies, it’s Labor’s chronic inability look and act like our leader and command the public’s respect and comprehension. This is a government that doesn’t believe in much beyond clinging to office, and the punters can smell its lack of principle.

    To be fair, on the question of economic competence Labor always starts way behind the ball in the public’s mind. Decades of polling reveals the electorate’s deeply ingrained view the Libs are good at running the economy and Labor is bad.

    This is what feeds both the Libs’ born-to-rule complex – their utter assurance that all Labor governments lack legitimacy – and Labor’s barely concealed inferiority complex…

    …Boosting productivity equals making industrial relations law more anti-union. End of story. When Treasury people give speeches that fail to echo this infallible truth it’s a clear sign they’ve been ”politicised” and we need to find a few hyper-ideological economics professors to misrepresent what they said…

    Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/business/prejudices-rule-when-judging-labor-20120715-224cu.html#ixzz20nONESci

  109. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 17, 2012 8:57 am

    AO, why would Lawler do anything to help duplicitous throw sh*t at him? There is simply no evidence about Lawler.

    The best Wicks was able to come up with was his retreat over an hour from “(FWA Investigator) Nassios and Lawler shared an office, and probably socialised” to “they may have worked in the same building”*. That’s the entire evidence for all the mud he’s thrown at Lawler!

    But barrackers have taken Wicks’ baseless speculation, and magnified it! They’ve somehow persuaded themselves that Wicks has something on Lawler.

    Wicks admits he has nothing. There would have to be some red faces around.

    *I’m not even certain they work in the same building. I think the FWA chambers and hearing rooms are housed separately.

  110. JAWS permalink
    July 17, 2012 9:30 am

    “………But barrackers have taken Wicks’ baseless speculation, and magnified it! ………..”

    Yep…………….the ALP Zombies love that green cordial

  111. JAWS permalink
    July 17, 2012 9:56 am

    Hilarious scenes over at another blog where the posters are whipping themselves up in a rage as the Conductor waves his wand around and gets them to throw themselves about in a hilarious rage like evangelicasts at a Hillsong Sunday service over some nutjob who has posted a death threat of some kind against Julia on the Liberal Party website.

    Of course when another poster on their blog points out a site that carries charming peaceful messages like this (and worse) there is silence.

    “I wish that someone would fist-fuck Tony Abbott to his death. Australia’s most vile liar deserves a fitting death”

    Not a word of outrage.

    Get me a bigger pair of blinkers goes their chorus and pass the green cordial

    What a bunch of hypocrites they are !

    http://tonyfuckingabbott.com/

  112. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 17, 2012 10:03 am

    True that.

    Stuff like” Rudd will challenge”, “Thomson used union money for prostitutes”, “ALP will introduce off shore processing” and “Gillard will walk away from her commitment to Wilkie” is repeatedly dismissed as “baseless speculation”

    But actual, genuine baseless speculation, such as that promoted by Wicks, is taken as fact.

  113. July 17, 2012 10:23 am

    I see that Joel Fitzgibbon is engaging in more “baseless speculation” this morning hinting that Gillard may not lead Labor to the next election…

    But that’s all just baseless speculation.

  114. JAWS permalink
    July 17, 2012 10:26 am

    What would Joel know ?

    He’s just a influential MP

    LOL

  115. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 17, 2012 10:32 am

    ToM, Lawler has broken the cardinal Unionland rule. Rather than keep the dirty laundry within the club he has helped shine some light into its dark recesses so people can see how things really work in that cesspit. In true Unionland tradition he will never be forgiven. He will be hounded and slandered for the rest of his life for his transgressions. That is all that is going on here.

    This code of silence is precisely why Gillard’s role in the Bruce Wilson/AWU affair has never been fully investigated. It is utterly absurd that she is PM, but this grubby affair is off limits and she can just ring up news organisations and have people sacked for mentioning the matter. Unionland is corrupt and rotten to the core, inhabited as it is by some of the lowest life-forms in the country and protected by an army of shills who do the dirty work of isolating and vilifying anyone who dares speak out.

  116. July 17, 2012 10:33 am

    Good heavens, I’ve just taken a stroll past the cafe and what do I find but Miglo in truly unhinged mode going full throttle…

    Apparently suggesting that his “good work” is now under threat from “the extreme right” who are now getting the AFP involved…

    Cooincidentally I watched an interesting doco on YouTube last night…

    (There are some similarities)…

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/americas-most-hated-family-in-crisis/

  117. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 17, 2012 10:33 am

    “What would Joel know ?”

    Riding instructions from the faceless men, no doubt.

  118. JAWS permalink
    July 17, 2012 10:55 am

    “I’ve just taken a stroll past the cafe and what do I find but Miglo in truly unhinged mode going full throttle…”

    I love the Comedy Hours down there.

    They rate very well and being well attended they always keep the prospect of a lingerie parade as an unlikely occurence

  119. el gordo permalink
    July 17, 2012 11:12 am

    The cafe is an amusing place…as seen from a distance. The Bitterness Society (coined by sreb, I think) is entirely apt.

  120. JAWS permalink
    July 17, 2012 11:31 am

    “unhinged” does not do justice to the crazy rantings of the hate filled Messiah claiming anyone who denounces the Right is targeted.

    Looks like someone’s claiming a simultaneous I’m a “victim” and “your blogmaster hero” status ……………………….Again !

    Now if that “look at me…… look at me….. look at brave ole me” aint just plain attention seeking then I don’t know what is.

    But they gobble it up as they sip on their Koolaid.

    And when you start comparing our domestic nutcase extreme Right to the Gestapo its very obvious that you do not have any background in history other than a few Humphrey Bogart movies it would seem.

    In fact it’s an insult to many of the victims of the extremes of Nazism.

    But some just have not a shred of shame about them

  121. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 17, 2012 11:33 am

    “The Bitterness Society”

    No that was a comment made by one of the reasonably minded participants (Shane of Qld) who was under relentless attack by the “Bitterness Club” members.

  122. JAWS permalink
    July 17, 2012 11:40 am

    From your link Reb

    “Obama is The Beast spoken of in the Book Of Revelation, and their conviction that we are now in the run-up to the second coming of Christ.”

    Reb,

    I do hope you realize that the Café crowd will see that and run with Tony substituted for Obama from now on.

    LOL

  123. JAWS permalink
    July 17, 2012 11:42 am

    “………who was under relentless attack by the “Bitterness Club” members.”

    Yes that was amusing the way they fed on their own that day.

    They completely turned on him

    Hilarious in fact

  124. July 17, 2012 11:42 am

    AO, why would Lawler do anything to help duplicitous throw sh*t at him? There is simply no evidence about Lawler.

    So why not front parliament if there is nothing to be worried about?

    Well, had he appeared before parliament and answered questions, it would have helped members of the public, people like me, with clarification. As it is, it looks as if he has something to hide, something he deliberately avoided. Let’s face it, lesser mortals, those not in the highest offices, don’t get the chance to avoid scrutiny in that manner. That is what I don’t like – the abuse of power and privilege to serve a personal agenda.

    Public servants and investigative bodies should be apolitical and seen to be so.

  125. el gordo permalink
    July 17, 2012 11:44 am

    Thanx ToM, its important to get the history right.

  126. July 17, 2012 11:47 am

    ToM is correct, “The Girls’ Bitterness Society” was Shane of QLD’s description…

    Although I believe I coined “Club Menopause” 😉

  127. July 17, 2012 11:49 am

    “I do hope you realize that the Café crowd will see that and run with Tony substituted for Obama from now on.”

    You mean, Abbott’s not the anti-Christ….??

  128. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 17, 2012 11:50 am

    There is nothing on Lawler, zilch, zip, zero. There is a just lot of mud being thrown by Wicks and the like.

    Wicks is clearly just making it up. He doesn’t even know whether they work in the same building, a big retreat from the assertion that “they share an office”, and “would socialise”.

    It’s crap, and I don’t blame Lawler for not wanting to participate in a process that gives credence to it.

  129. July 17, 2012 12:11 pm

    I kind of followed that Wixxy stuff. I think the best he came up with was that Kathy Jackson’s ex husband might have used hookers once. Apparently Kathy Jackson was one of those rare ex wives who condone such a thing….

  130. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 17, 2012 12:24 pm

    It’s Min & Miglo vs Scaper & Iain Hall!

    The BATTLE OF THE TITANS!!

  131. July 17, 2012 12:27 pm

    ToM is correct, “The Girls’ Bitterness Society” was Shane of QLD’s description…

    Although I believe I coined “Club Menopause”

    Must we have the group misogyny?

    It’s crap, and I don’t blame Lawler for not wanting to participate in a process that gives credence to it.

    You are just making excuses for a bloke that is too gutless to face scrutiny. He was happy to use his ‘protected and sheltered’ position to intimidate and accuse others, when it is time to investigate his own behaviour, he squirts and runs away [typical conservative bully boy].

    And when you start comparing our domestic nutcase extreme Right to the Gestapo its very obvious that you do not have any background in history other than a few Humphrey Bogart movies it would seem.

    In fact it’s an insult to many of the victims of the extremes of Nazism

    Now who is being a bit extremist?

    When you create the atmosphere and dabble in the politics and propaganda of nazism as Abbott has, then you can’t be surprised that some dimwits will act on your incitement.

    I am one of those who deplores the politics of extremism, muscular aggression, targeted hatred and the incitement of violence and sexism that has prevailed since tony abbott came to lead the Opposition. Conservatives rave on about ‘traditions’, civil society and the rule of law etc yet are the ones who are the most prepared to act indecently and with violent hatreds.

  132. JAWS permalink
    July 17, 2012 12:46 pm

    “…………and dabble in the politics and propaganda of nazism as Abbott has”

    Like when ?

  133. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 17, 2012 12:52 pm

    The ALP would have just asked salacious questions, with no objective other than blackening his name. Pillow talk questions.

    I don’t blame him. Lawler’s accusers have no evidence of anything.

    Former ACTU Official, now FWA President Iain Ross doesn’t think there is anything to investigate about Lawler.

    It’s a beat up that got some barrackers **squirting** they must be embarrassed, or they would be if they had any self respect. So they probably aren’t.

  134. July 17, 2012 12:57 pm

    Abbott’s tax strategy likened to Nazi propaganda:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-03-11/abbotts-tax-strategy-likened-to-nazi-propaganda/2661892

    …In an opinion piece today, Labor MP Mark Dreyfus described Mr Abbott’s so-called “truth campaign” on carbon as Goebbellian

    The term takes its name from the Nazi Germany’s propaganda chief, Joseph Goebbels…

    Taxing the truth: why we must not let Abbott’s dogmas lie:

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/taxing-the-truth-why-we-must-not-let-abbotts-dogmas-lie-20120706-21mlz.html#ixzz20qQLa5Cf

    …When I was at secondary school, my English class studied a collection of essays, one of which analysed the methods of Nazi propaganda in the 1930s.

    There were, I recall, three components of this: an element of truth; gross exaggeration; and constant repetition.

    I have been starkly reminded of this trilogy by the habitual behaviour of Abbott and his opposition colleagues during the past 15 months…

  135. July 17, 2012 1:03 pm

    “Conservatives rave on about ‘traditions’, civil society and the rule of law etc yet are the ones who are the most prepared to act indecently and with violent hatreds.”

    “Hatred” is sort of a “tradition” I suppose, but hardly one worth defending.

  136. July 17, 2012 1:13 pm

    Former ACTU Official, now FWA President Iain Ross doesn’t think there is anything to investigate about Lawler.

    No tom, you are misrepresenting here. he said he has no power to investigate lawler, only the parliament can. He gave a very qualified “nothing has appeared before me”. A world of difference. Anyway, Lawler gave him his word, apparently that’s all that’s needed in the FWA body!

  137. JAWS permalink
    July 17, 2012 1:17 pm

    Oh come on Kitty

    If Dreyfuss says so therefore it must be………….?

    Are you kidding………..?

    And by the way. Hitler was most influenced by the British propaganda of WW1 and claimed it contributed heavily to Germany’s defeat. He used the best bits of it to create his own methods as per Mein Kampf

  138. JAWS permalink
    July 17, 2012 1:20 pm

    “……………He gave a very qualified “nothing has appeared before me”……………”

    So therefore he had no basis even to investigate anyway……..!

    Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez………………..So around and around and around we go

  139. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 17, 2012 1:35 pm

    Various people across the blog have just about wet themselves about Wicks’ ramblings.

    But the actual situation is-
    *He’s got no evidence that Lawler has ever even spoken to FWA Investigstor Nassios.
    *He’s retreated from his ‘they shared an office claim’
    *He says his writing about Jackson is ‘throwing mud’
    *He’s attacking a union official as a distraction, for political ends. This is usually regarded as union bashing.
    *Nothing that he’s written disproves FWA findings against Thomson.
    *He is completely unable to explain how the report could have reached the adverse outcome given the involvement of Tim Lee (former union official, ALP ministerial advisor) and FWA Pres Iain Ross (former ACTU official).

    But he’s been quoted as an authority in some blogs. Bizarre.

  140. July 17, 2012 5:22 pm

    Confirmation bias…

  141. RGBRG permalink
    July 17, 2012 9:26 pm

    Chris Uhlman, 7.30 28/05/2012

    But while Mr Lawler clearly had no hand in the Fair Work Australia enquiry, 7.30 can reveal that he appeared to have been deeply involved in the protracted in-fighting in the Health Services Union.

    On December 21 last year, Michael Lawler wrote to the NSW police strike force setup to investigate the Health Services Union. He noted he was Vice president of Fair Work Australia, but was making the complaint “in my private capacity on behalf of Kathy Jackson and myself.”

    He made serious accusations of misconduct against two HSU officials, Gerard Hayes and Carol Glen, and against the union’s national president, Michael Williamson. The multiple attachments include the minutes of an executive HSU committee meeting, photographs of text messages sent to Kathy Jackson’s phone, and details of complaints sent to the then president of Fair Work Australia about Michael Lawler’s interference in HSU affairs.

    Michael Lawler told 7.30 he was obliged by strong convention to refrain from making any public comment in relation to matters of public controversy. In a later message he said he strongly rejected any imputation of wrong-doing and would place any imputation in the hands of his solicitors.

    Fair Work’s president pointed out that members of its tribunal enjoy the same status as judges.

    😉

  142. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 17, 2012 9:47 pm

    That’s nice.

  143. JAWS permalink
    July 17, 2012 11:25 pm

    Could we have some evidence with that little cut and paste ?

    Perhaps some FINDINGS even

    LOL

  144. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 18, 2012 2:43 am

    But he’s been quoted as an authority in some blogs. Bizarre.

    What’s bizarre is the inferences and conclusions that you have drawn tomM 😆

    I had a look at wixxy’s site and I think that you are trying some kind of poisoning the well style of argument where you make a mountain out of any molehill regarding completely unimportant and irrelevant stuff and act like that actually means something in the scheme of things. I’m puzzled as to what you are trying to achieve over there. It seems that you think if you can discredit something, anything, that wicks has said then that means everything he says is false or should be discounted- yet it is your ‘gotcha’ that has no value.

    I can’t help but laugh to myself TomM when you accuse wicks of union official bashing, I mean that is almost comical, especially given your own history of union bashing. You really are trying hard to make a case aren’t you?

  145. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 18, 2012 2:58 am

    The ALP would have just asked salacious questions, with no objective other than blackening his name. Pillow talk questions.

    Otherwise known as huge conflict of interest.

  146. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 8:51 am

    No AO, I think Wicks has made a range of allegations and inferences about interference in the Thomson/HSU investigation, particularly regarding the involvement of Lawler.

    He suggested they “shared an office”, probably did favours for each other, shared a coffee etc. But he has no evidence that Lawler has even met or ever had a conversation with Nassios. He’s not even sure they work in the same building now.

    He hasn’t even bothered to try to explain how a the report could have been conducted in a tainted manner given that it was supervised by Tim Lee, former ALP ministerial advisor, former union official, ALP government appointee to FWA. He just doesn’t bother to address that issue.

    He cannot explain how the report would have been released under FWA President Iain Ross, former ACTU official etc.

    The attack on Jackson is “mud throwing” he admits. When a political opponent attacks, or repeatedly throws mud at a union official for political ends, union barrackers claim its “union bashing”. I think Wicks’ attack justifies the description.

    Wicks is just involved in a complicated “look over there”!! and that’s all there is to his ramblings.

    It’s quite funny that he’s been regarded as some authority on this. He’s just making it up, particularly about Lawler and that’s been the central plank in his efforts to discredit the FWA report.

  147. el gordo permalink
    July 18, 2012 9:24 am

    Hannan in the Oz

    ‘ONE of the nation’s biggest unions is negotiating to import up to 2000 skilled workers from the US on temporary visas, declaring unions will be unable to “hold back the tide” of foreigners needed to plug skill shortages on multi-billion-dollar resources projects.

    ‘The Australian can reveal that a company directly related to the union has been approved by the federal government to assess the overseas workers and is setting up facilities in Las Vegas and the states of Maine and Pennsylvania for offshore testing from October.’

  148. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 18, 2012 10:01 am

    Janet Albrechtsen has shown an interesting side of her personality lately.

    This article from last August noted:

    Victorian Liberal Party powerbroker Michael Kroger looks to be off the market after stepping out at the weekend with prominent conservative newspaper columnist Janet Albrechtsen on his arm.

    While I was wondering about that her column in the Australian on the very same day gave us a clue by featuring this quote:

    “Don’t you ever just wanna be really pounded hard, you know? Like when the bed is moving all around, and it’s all sweaty, and your head is knocking up against the headboard and you feel like it might just blow off.”

    In today’s column Albrechtsen continues her obsession:

    At the end of a day’s work, be it in a sleek city office, a factory or a hairdressing salon, when children have been bathed and are in bed, millions of women are fantasising about having their wrists tied together and having their bottoms slapped. Even whipped.

    Obviously she is a very naughty girl for writing about this stuff. Maybe that is why, or how, she and Kroger hit it off.

    Her columns usually concern mundane political matters, but if she keeps on with these thrilling and revealing pieces she could sell them as the basis of a saucy and successful reality show.

    What is it with conservatives and spanking anyway?

  149. July 18, 2012 12:47 pm

    Wicks is just involved in a complicated “look over there”!! and that’s all there is to his ramblings.

    Funny, that’s exactly what I was thinking about your forensic investigation! 😉
    i don’t know about any collusion within the office etc, but I reckon we only have to look down the nearest rabbotthole to find Lawler’s influences.

    My own conspiracy theory is that it is Jackson not Lawler who is enamoured – she has been captured by the catholic brotherhood, toxic tony’s family and lawler’s have close connections through catholocism and the opus dei cult. Jackson is doing the liberal party’s bidding and she has been brainwashed into believing it is a holy mission by the holy warriors, lawlor and abbott.

    Janet Albrechtsen has shown an interesting side of her personality lately.

    I’m wondering if that has something to do with the recent best selling trilogy, something about soft porn for women. Something about shades or colours of grey.

    Fifty Shades of Grey: Book One of the Fifty Shades Trilogy:
    http://www.amazon.com/Fifty-Shades-Grey-Book-Trilogy/dp/0345803485

  150. el gordo permalink
    July 18, 2012 1:11 pm

    Its being called mommy porn, whatever that means.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/annanorth/why-50-shades-of-grey-is-less-about-submission-a

    There is a herd mentality associated with this book.

  151. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 18, 2012 2:24 pm

    Fifty Shades was indeed the pretext for her column. She makes some pretty interesting observations:

    t is more than passing curious that a certain group of men is equally confounded by the astounding sales of the Fifty Shades books. If you listened to ABC radio these past few weeks, you would have heard a few prominent metrosexual-type male radio hosts sound genuinely perplexed, asking, “Do women really like this kind of stuff?” Like feminists, the more these metrosexual men try to understand women, the less they really do. Like feminists, these metrosexual types seem bewildered by the thought that women might like to fantasise about being bound so tight, the ties leave marks on her body.

    “It’s sexy,” says Anastasia as she stares at the woven indentation around her wrists.

    In fact, the confusion among metrosexual types is no surprise given that the metrosexual male is best seen as a by-product of feminism. When enough women started to treat masculinity with disdain, it only made sense that many men who live and work with these women would adapt to the new surrounds.

    The more politically correct the place, the more metrosexual the men who work there. This species thrives at our very PC ABC radio, where the real ball-breakers have long been women.

    Alas, as iconoclast and author Camille Paglia has argued, when hectoring feminists neutered masculinity, they also wrecked sex. In the real world, sex is a very un-PC pursuit. Where raw masculinity still survives, you find the “the reality of sex”, writes Paglia, “of male lust and women being aroused by male lust. It attracts women. It doesn’t repel them.”

  152. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 2:47 pm

    AO – ”I reckon we only have to look down the nearest rabbotthole to find Lawler’s influences… My own conspiracy theory is that it is Jackson not Lawler who is enamoured.”

    I have no objection to this. Maybe Jackson has changed her orientation, and maybe Lawler has persuaded her. I have no idea, that’s the discussion that goes on between peopl..
    The issue I have is that Wicks has run a campaign against Lawler, suggesting that he has some influence over the investigation and report. This has been parroted and magnified across some other blogs.

    When the fact is that Wicks has just made this up. It’s an invention.

  153. el gordo permalink
    July 18, 2012 3:27 pm

    The sales of Kindles to middle aged moms have sky rocketed in the UK recently…obviously its just a coincidence.

    ‘Like feminists, the more these metrosexual men try to understand women, the less they really do.’

    Men struggle to understand women, there is little doubt this has been a problem for a long time, but their complexity remains unfathomable.

    On the book itself, Kathryn Casey in Forbes asks some serious questions.

    ‘Do middle-aged women, the main audience for this book, really view the threat of violence as an aphrodisiac? And isn’t it dangerous to turn a BDSM-addict into a romantic hero?
    ‘Would we want our daughters dating Christian Grey?’

  154. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 18, 2012 3:46 pm

    Those are not serious questions, Gordo. They are the prattlings of a censorious uptight wowser. The really interesting questions are those raised by Albrechtsen.

  155. TB Queensland permalink
    July 18, 2012 4:00 pm

    Bettina Arndt … the everyman’s psychoanalyst! And defender of testosterone … and she’d know ’cause she’s a woman … 🙄 …

    … has this take on “Mummy Porn” – Shades of Grey …

    http://www.news.com.au/national/arndt-hypocrisy-of-mummy-porn/story-fndo4eg9-1226418286271

  156. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 18, 2012 4:11 pm

    Killer quote:

    It’s interesting how readily many female commentators switch from their normal stance that men and women are equal to suggesting that women are essentially superior.

  157. el gordo permalink
    July 18, 2012 4:16 pm

    I have always loved Bettina’s intellect, she’s a brilliant unbiased social scientist.

    ‘But no, when it comes to sexual fantasy any notion of equality goes out the window, with men seen as incapable of making this type of differentiation while women remain uncorrupted by their own salacious, grossly unreal imaginary sexual world.’

  158. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 18, 2012 4:31 pm

    It might be that women are more prone to jealousy even of images of other women.

  159. el gordo permalink
    July 18, 2012 5:59 pm

    Its not jealousy, more to do with poor programming.

    ‘Yet when men are caught looking at their favoured sexual material – pictures rather than words – that’s somehow very different’, says Bettina.

    I knew a young couple, living together and apparently happily married. One day she discovered he had been looking at porn and said if I find you doing this again its over between us.

    Nothing happened for awhile and, in a moment of weakness (LOL) he succumbed again and was found out. True to her word she walked.

    Pathetic ignorance of human construction.

  160. TB Queensland permalink
    July 18, 2012 6:51 pm

    *yikes*

    smoke (stuff?):shock:

    drink (bourbon etc ) 😯

    metal music (arghhhhhh) 😯

    porn (LOL!) 😯

  161. TB Queensland permalink
    July 18, 2012 7:19 pm

    He e e e e e ee !

    Lurv ya bro!

  162. el gordo permalink
    July 18, 2012 7:59 pm

    More Indonesians soldiers arrested for people smuggling. Who would have thunk it?

  163. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 8:27 pm

    When blogging, I prefer mine unexpurgated. It’s a richly powerful aroma, and can cause a tingle on the front palate, despite the chance of a slightly bitter aftertaste.

    Though it’s obviously a flavour too strong for blogging’s chardonnay set.

  164. el gordo permalink
    July 18, 2012 8:32 pm

    Down at the cafe there is self destruction on Cafe Talk V, someone has gone ballistic with the delete button. LOL

  165. July 18, 2012 8:40 pm

    Can you all just shut up, fuck off and quit your bullshit!!

  166. el gordo permalink
    July 18, 2012 8:48 pm

    Much amusement.

  167. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 8:55 pm

    It’s a big, bold, full bodied flavour that I prefer.

    While some prefer the astringent, immature light tone with aroma of cat spray, it really isn’t to my taste.

  168. el gordo permalink
    July 18, 2012 8:58 pm

    That’s funny ToM, seriously good stuff.

  169. July 18, 2012 8:58 pm

    “Down at the cafe there is self destruction on Cafe Talk V, someone has gone ballistic with the delete button. LOL”

    Oh dear, how sad, never mind…

    Although the Farnham quotes are entertaining….

    “Bacchus, it doesn’t matter any more. Goodbye. I have had enough of the secret emails and badmouthing.”

    “I have after 160 posts and 2 years been downgraded to author from Admin. And that is my thank you. The secret emails about how I am nasty and manipulative. The constant snipes about me.”

    “That is what has been happening, the nastiness, the emails behind other’s backs..quite distressing when other alerted me to these.”

    “Anyone who thinks that they have the right to delete his comments from this blog, well this blog can go get f*cked.”

    “Pip, Pip, stop now. What about those emails behind my back, your secret emails which others alerted me to. Why was I downgraded from Admin after 2 years and 160 posts…and you had nothing to do with this? Michael had always told me that the blog was ours, yet you convinced him otherwise.”

    “I quit. The blog is all yours. Miglo is all yours.”

    Oh dear.

  170. July 18, 2012 9:27 pm

    Wow.

    Just, wow. 😯

    So ends the myth of ‘free discourse’ there.

    That’s the problem when you don’t read outside of your comfort zone.

  171. James of North Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 9:55 pm

    I think Scaper posted something about the PM being a serial homewrecker and one of the blokes she was shagging spent a bunch of money doing up her house, money he’d knocked off from the union through accounts that she set up… Or something.

    And Pip censored him….

    And Min got angry….

    And they all met at Darling Harbour….

    And Pip shagged Miglo…..

    And Patricia and Catching Up dropped a stitch

    I think.

  172. Shadez O' Kafe permalink
    July 18, 2012 10:05 pm

    😯 😯

  173. James of North Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 10:11 pm

    Cafe Talk V.

  174. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 10:12 pm

    …and that’s the expurgated version.

  175. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 10:37 pm

    Apparently James meant-
    I think Scaper posted something about the PM being a serial homewrecker and one of the blokes she was shagging spent a bunch of money doing up her house, money he’d knocked off from the union through accounts that she set up… Or something.
    And Pip censored him….
    And Min got angry….
    And they all met at Darling Harbour….
    And Pip shagged Miglo…..
    And Patricia and Catching Up dropped a stitch

  176. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 10:43 pm

    Apparently James’ comment was the most offensive one this evening.

  177. JAWS permalink
    July 18, 2012 10:45 pm

    Holy guacamole !

    It’s more violent than kings cross over there.

  178. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 10:48 pm

    Min got a fair old dressing down by Miglo for participating here (quite inoffensively. They don’t take kindly to diversity there.

    Ban him! And HIM!! AND HIM

  179. JAWS permalink
    July 18, 2012 10:52 pm

    So Groupthink now equals Groupstink.

    A clear case of too many chiefs

  180. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 10:53 pm

    It works well there when they ban the trouble makers. Banning and deleting leads to a nice, cohesive blog where everyone has nice similar views that can be debated openly, and nicely.

    That’s nice!

  181. JAWS permalink
    July 18, 2012 11:02 pm

    But will we get a new poem out of all this ?

  182. JAWS permalink
    July 18, 2012 11:04 pm

    Reading a Taltarni label is more interesting than the crap they post at the Cafe

  183. JAWS permalink
    July 18, 2012 11:07 pm

    In more important news it’s really hotting up for Assaad in Syria. Suicide bombing of his own cabinet members

    Wow

  184. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 11:16 pm

    Poor James he’ll be hooked on debating unreasonable people, who actually aren’t in the least interested in policy or logic, or discourse.

    Despite their protestations, they actually hate all that. There’s a niceness façade, a veneer over the deep bitterness. It’s bound to end in tears. Retreat with your dignity in tact James!!…is likely to be banned!

  185. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 11:21 pm

    Where’s my deleting tool gone? The provocative comment above should not be published!!!

    Let’s keep it all nice!

  186. JAWS permalink
    July 18, 2012 11:24 pm

    Oh my that’s a low point

    Catching Up is scandalized that the word “adulteress” has appeared on the blog.

    It is Comedy Fucking Central over there.

    Things being thrown everywhere

    Better call the Zimmer frame repairman I’d say

  187. JAWS permalink
    July 18, 2012 11:25 pm

    I think I might write a poem

  188. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 18, 2012 11:32 pm

    why don’t you grow up, fuck off, and stop your bullshit

    Normally they’re nice.

  189. July 18, 2012 11:50 pm

    JAWS PERMALINK
    July 18, 2012 11:25 pm
    I think I might write a poem

    i met some old friends by chance
    bloggin’ at a cafe on the net
    ecstatic i was, in my heart a dance
    wonderin’ where the rest of the crowd was at…

    then brickbats started a-flyin’
    people accused other people of lyin’
    julia-an adulteress? we ain’t buyin’
    reb was mentioned in a laine

    so trawled i the net some more,
    found this little eye-sore
    reb, tb et al were in uproar
    c’mon folks, pass the wine, and maybe a s’more?

  190. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:37 am

    Hello Lekhni

    This is “I Am the Walrus” here

    After being to anger management school………….LOL

  191. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:38 am

    Nice poem by the way

  192. el gordo permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:41 am

    It’s official…I’m banned at CW.

  193. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:41 am

    The goings on at the Café must prove once and for all that a political blog can only really have one ring master directing its goings on.

    Sure you can have contributions from authors but that’s it

    No other “model” seems to work

    Reb must have an opinion after trying to accomplish something with Joni.

  194. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:47 am

    How amusing Egg

    Your’e pretty harmless

  195. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:58 am

    There are only nice, fun loving people here Lekhni.

  196. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 19, 2012 9:01 am

    I think Min is always welcome too.

    In fact everyone is welcome here, it’s just that some prefer to gossip amongt themselves enjoy rigorous reinforcement of their existing opinions.

  197. July 19, 2012 9:11 am

    Welcome Lekhni…! 🙂

  198. July 19, 2012 9:18 am

    OK, so Pip didn’t really shag Miglo. I made that bit up……

    It was the other way around

  199. el gordo permalink
    July 19, 2012 9:21 am

    You’re pretty harmless.

    Sometimes I’m a little boorish.

  200. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 9:27 am

    I think its time for them to change the Cafe header from “Political Tragics” to just “Tragics”

  201. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2012 9:47 am

    Busy night shift I see …

    Is that really lekhni? If it is great to hear from you! Back in Oz? (eg Adelaide)

  202. public toilet permalink
    July 19, 2012 10:12 am

    😯

  203. public toilet permalink
    July 19, 2012 10:16 am

    😯 😯 😯

  204. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 10:34 am

    When are you off to Tassie TB ?

  205. July 19, 2012 11:34 am

    TB, yes indeed it’s Lekhni. The real one. 😉

  206. July 19, 2012 11:36 am

    Reb, yes..that’s about it in a nutshell…

  207. July 19, 2012 11:50 am

    Min,

    To be perfectly honest, I think you have been treated VERY unfairly over there…

    I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes, nor do I really care to know, but from what’s visible on the site the conduct of some people towards you is pretty bloody poor.

    But of course, the last time I was at the cafe, Migs just told me to “fuck off” so I guess it’s not completely out of character.

    Please feel welcome to call this place your new home, should you so wish…

  208. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 12:34 pm

    Egg…………………….apparently you have not been banned but merely placed in moderation because you stir up shit ALL THE TIME.

    Currently there is nothing of yours in moderation………….that’s according to the Ringmaster…………………………and of course we all believe him ………………I mean he’s never misled anyone in the past has he……………..LOL

  209. July 19, 2012 12:42 pm

    Egg, for the last time, are you a he or a she?

    It doesn’t matter, I just need to know whether our relationship is homo or hetero sexual…..

  210. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 1:12 pm

    The people associated with Vexnews seem nice

    WARNING: THE FOLLOWING LINK IS NOT SUITABLE FOR WORK.

    http://slanderyounew.blogspot.com.au/

  211. July 19, 2012 1:18 pm

    😯

  212. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 1:26 pm

    So do ya reckon someone doesn’t quite like Andrew Landeryou’s Vexnews ?

  213. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 2:00 pm

    “………………I mean he’s never misled anyone in the past has he……………..LOL”

    LOL

    Egg

    Miraculously your comment has now been found……………………..now who would have thought

  214. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 19, 2012 2:05 pm

    Thanks for the link, JAWS. Unfortunately I opened it at work. I’m expecting a visit from an IT Nazi sometime soon.

  215. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 3:53 pm

    Oooops

    Sorry Splatter

  216. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 19, 2012 4:09 pm

    Jaws, they have left me alone so far – probably too busy studying that awesome first picture.

  217. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 4:11 pm

    Looks like I better head down to Dan Murphy’s and get the French champagne. The long positions I took late last week on BHP and Woodside and just closed out have paid off BIG time.

    Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    But I will have to pay a shitload of tax at the full marginal rate

  218. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 4:12 pm

    That’s good splatter

    Someone hates Vexnews obviously

  219. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 4:24 pm

    Talking about awesome pictures.

    The new Batman movie is getting 5 stars everywhere I look.

  220. July 19, 2012 4:40 pm

    “The new Batman movie is getting 5 stars everywhere I look.”

    Yep, I’m off to see it this weekend.. I’ve been avoiding reading the views in case they give too much of the plot away, but everywhere it is getting 4 and 5 stars like you say…

    Stand by for my in-depth review:

    Batman lives. Bruce Wayne is ok but is living a wealthy but unfulfilled life. Suddenly a bad guy appears in town and starts blowing things up. Batman nearly dies, but suddenly catwoman arrives and saves him. They fall in love. Batman kills the bad guy but dies in the process. Catwoman gives birth to the “BatCat” in a bizarre final twist that hints at a new sequel…

  221. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 4:48 pm

    I’ll wait a couple of weeks

    Mrs JAWS insists on going to Gold Class Cinemas only these days

  222. July 19, 2012 4:50 pm

    Fuck the Batshit.

    Poxy & overdone -3 stars

  223. July 19, 2012 5:52 pm

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/fool_money_parted/

    GUFFAW!

    Bolt is much better without the lunatic comments from his felchclubbers.

    Just to clarify, not sure why he even posted this, but he’s probably right about the moronic ‘businessman’.

  224. el gordo permalink
    July 19, 2012 6:07 pm

    ‘Egg, for the last time, are you a he or a she?’

    I am a male of the species homo sapien. A gentleman with only a casual interest in sport who enjoys domestic duties. Drinks sparingly…a sort of girlie man. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

    Sexual orientation traditional.

    I admit their confusion at the cafe about these matters has given me much delight, as you can appreciate I have not behaved like a typical male…hence the confusion.

  225. July 19, 2012 6:12 pm

    I thought that they were just being demeaning, which is mysoginist in & of itself.

  226. el gordo permalink
    July 19, 2012 6:22 pm

    ‘Miraculously your comment has now been found……………………..now who would have thought.’

    Miracles will never cease.

    As someone mentioned earlier the structure at the cafe is wrong, too many sub editors. By comparison, sreb has discovered the correct formula, an old fashioned editor who will tell someone to their face what he thinks and dares them to hang around.

    To my knowledge there have been few sackings under this roof (scaper comes to mind and that was a good call) so what we have is a robust environment, with different points of view presented with wit and intelligence.

    Intellect is debatable, because its hard to define, but I think we have it.

  227. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2012 6:32 pm

    Wally, in September (rather not say “when” – we wuz robbed last year remember …)

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I have not behaved like a typical male…hence the confusion.

    Reminds me of ABBA … N5 … (only let down by his last post at Blogocracy and then “idiosyncracies” … just sayin’ 😉 )

    And no I don’t think egg, is N5 …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Pity I missed the “deleted” posts on CW … lost some of the context …

    Just to add to the CW wikileaks … the burblings about CW being an “uncensored” blog is not my “experience” from the “very” beginning … and I mean, “the beginning” …

  228. July 19, 2012 6:32 pm

    “an old fashioned editor who will tell someone to their face what he thinks and dares them to hang around.”

    Yowsa! Is that really what people think of me..?

    Just to clarify, no one is currently banned from The Daily Trash…

    And I mean that in a genuine sincere and honest way – not in a “cafe” way – where they tell you that you’re not banned, and then subsequently ban you when you accept the invitation to show up…

  229. el gordo permalink
    July 19, 2012 6:35 pm

    ‘I thought that they were just being demeaning,’

    They were, but its water off a ducks back. The important thing for me was to combat them on my portfolio, without losing my sense of humour… the knowledge gained is invaluable.

    When they attack my mental state, such as CU did with her Dunning/Kruger jibe, I don’t retaliate because I’m on a mission. LOL

  230. el gordo permalink
    July 19, 2012 6:41 pm

    ‘Yowsa! Is that really what people think of me..?’

    I mean in the sense that you are not disingenuous.

  231. July 19, 2012 6:42 pm

    Oh, I see. Thank you, I think.

    🙂

  232. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2012 6:44 pm

    The new Batman movie is getting 5 stars everywhere I look.

    I also see that The Bourne Legacy is to be released soon … (although without Matt D – of whom I have become a big fan) … the story should be good though …

    http://www.thebournelegacymovie.com.au/

  233. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2012 6:49 pm

    Yowsa! Is that really what people think of me..?

    Yowsa???? FMD!

    Just to clarify, no one is currently banned from The Daily Trash…

    That’s a joke I take it, sreb … 🙄

  234. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 6:52 pm

    September. ?…………should be rather nice weather…………a bit of fog and a chill in the air I’d imagine.

    “Clink”

    Just popped the Moet with Mrs JAWS.

    Should taste nice with a Crust Pizza………………………..she’s not cooking apparently

  235. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2012 6:53 pm

    I don’t retaliate because I’m on a mission

    Mmmmm … a bit like the Catlicks on another fred … Jesus Christ! 🙄

    What kind of world have we created? (to nick a frase)

  236. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2012 7:01 pm

    Wally, *clink* (Bowlers Run $2:50 SSB) … congrats to you and Mrs Wally, on your “win” … Moët is our “celebration” tipple too* … 😉

    Yeah, September, should be a bit like the weather wer’e experiencing in Brissy right now … but that’s OK … The Minister was bjorn in Friesland and moi, in Yorkshire we lyke it “brisk” … for a bit … and then crave the su-tropics! 😛

    BTW … Metlstorm are “cosying up” to Colt at the moment (and my shares have recently doubled – from a shareholders “capital raising” a couple of years ago … if our “boat comes in”, we’ll share a lunch at Darling Harbour ???

  237. el gordo permalink
    July 19, 2012 7:15 pm

    ‘I don’t retaliate because I’m on a mission.’

    That was meant as a joke at my own expense.

    ‘The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.’

    When the warmists become frustrated at losing the scientific debate they say the Denialati are trolls suffering from Dunning/Kruger.

  238. el gordo permalink
    July 19, 2012 7:24 pm

    ‘What kind of world have we created? (to nick a frase)’

    That was mine, I think, which was meant ironically. Smiley faces are noice, but I prefer practicing ToM’s dry style. Did I mention Poe’s Law?

  239. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2012 7:31 pm

    Poe’s Law! Piss in yer own pot …

    And, yes, egg, I understand “irony” … something I was “birthed” into as a Yorkshireman … don’t misunderstand … my heritage, I have no control over and cherish, dearly … my chosen country and state within that country … I cherish too …

    QUEENSLANDER!

  240. July 19, 2012 7:32 pm

    I’m pretty comfortable with an unhinged, egomaniacal line-crossing piece of shit like scaper being banned.

    Having said that, let him in if you want, but I’ll be a total cnut to him. It’s a long drive from Qld to my front door, but TB mightn’t appreciate that insect crawling around here.

    As you said, it’s out in the open here. There aren’t any back channel machinations. The only person here I’ve ever been in contact with privately via email is reb, usually to offer a kind word or support, which his long term efforts certainly warrant. Even that has been seldom.
    I think if you were banned or censored here there wouldn’t be any airs & fancies, no pretending & it would be stated pretty clearly. I also think you’d have to be an utter arsewipe to get yourself banned here. I seriously doubt that you’d get blacklisted for disagreeing with the prevailing sentiment…of which, there isn’t any, except for maybe “let’s all carry on like fucktards”…

  241. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2012 7:39 pm

    Hear! Hear!

    … ma bro’ from da Southern State …

  242. July 19, 2012 7:41 pm

    😉

    You’ve got most of the nutterz up there, TB.

    We just have demented serial killers per capita, down here. 😆

  243. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2012 7:50 pm

    LOL! Just so we stay cool … homie!

    Dinner calls! (OK! The Minister, then! …. but whose in charge!) 🙄

  244. July 19, 2012 7:57 pm

    “whose in charge!”

    I think you mean “who’s in charge”

    FFS. 🙄

  245. July 19, 2012 7:58 pm

    Whose what?….oh, you mean who is. Aaaah, I get it. Grammar pedantry is another qld skidtrademark.

  246. July 19, 2012 7:59 pm

    Hawhawhaw…

    Almost simultaneous pedantry from the legible southerners.

  247. TB Queensland permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:00 pm

    Whose who? It’s becoming so-o-o-o bitter and complicated … ?! ?!

    And … then …FFS. 🙄 do you have to put a full stop “.” after a FFS?

  248. July 19, 2012 8:06 pm

    “we stay cool … homie!”

    Much amusement TB thinks he’s fkn Eminem…!

  249. el gordo permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:10 pm

    Don’t know what’s up, the bouncer on the cafe door has stopped my entry again. Perhaps a committee is analysing my two words ‘true dat.’ …to see if it conforms to Newspeak.

  250. Whatup permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:14 pm

    ‘Much amusement TB thinks he’s fkn Eminem…!’

    😆

  251. July 19, 2012 8:26 pm

    ‘true dat.’

    They’ll be sitting around wondering what sort of insult that is to Julia Gillard.

  252. Bannerman permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:37 pm

    Other comments likely to get you banned at Kaffe Krazy: ‘quite so’, ‘indeed’ and, ‘that’s just not supported by the available evidence’.

  253. July 19, 2012 8:42 pm

    TB izzle the dogjizzle…

  254. July 19, 2012 8:46 pm

    Hahaha, joke’s on the rest of the world! 127 people have now looked at this toilet earth.

    Imagine if I actually regularly posted inflammatory shit there?!

  255. Irf to Toilet permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:49 pm

    The owner never looks in the spam bin, apparently. 🙄

  256. Hit parade permalink
    July 19, 2012 8:59 pm

    (120 of those ‘people’ are bots, probably. 😉 )

  257. July 19, 2012 9:02 pm

    TB should learn to be like ninja if’n he’s gonna lay his mack down’n shit, yo.

    He ain’t no Jesse Pinkman! 😯

  258. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 19, 2012 9:41 pm

    I’m in “moderation” at your blog too. Who’s running that place?

  259. July 19, 2012 9:46 pm

    I think you mean “who’s in charge”

    TB don’t do ‘postrophes no more

    respect

  260. el gordo permalink
    July 19, 2012 9:49 pm

    It’s OK, apparently since Min’s sacking they can’t find the moderators and that’s why I’ve been held up. Andrew Bolt (hate media) also has trouble finding mods…its a worrying trend.

    The bogmasta told me to “Go drop yourself somewhere else. I’m sure we’ll cope without you.”

    Not too sure about that Miglo.

  261. July 19, 2012 9:56 pm

    “TB don’t do ‘postrophes no more

    respect”

    😆

    TB adds in silent, postfix ‘e‘s’, too. WORD UP!

  262. July 19, 2012 10:04 pm

    🙂

  263. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 10:17 pm

    Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

    A bloke makes just over the average Oz wage in just a week and the wife tells me about how hard up a couple of dog and cat shelters are at the moment.

    Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark

    She always gets me half cut first before she strikes and I promise. And she damn well recorded it on her iPhone

    Oh well . It’s not the $ that always counts its the Winning.

    “Winning”…………………where did I hear that before ?

  264. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 10:18 pm

    Oh that’s right it was some Yankee loser

  265. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 10:42 pm

    Wow

    Can you believe that Zoo Magazine is conducting a competition for Australia’s hottest looking asylum seeker ?

    Amazing !

  266. JAWS permalink
    July 19, 2012 10:59 pm

    Been to York TB

    We were there in I think it was 2000 when the town of Selby (?) was flooded as we drove away north to Scotland to Ed and the to Inverness then down to Carlisle then over to Chester then to hay on wye where as we drove away that flooded as well.

    Got back to London and then Mrs Jaws proceeded to get us lost For 90 minutes around Wembley stadium . Every fucking 15 minutes we ended up at fucking Wembley. No gps in those days. Just the a to z.

    At the end of the 90 minutes she was startled by 2 things

    a) the number of times I can say the F word in one breath

    b) that the top of every map is North

    Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark

    What a day

  267. James of North Melbourne permalink
    July 19, 2012 11:57 pm

    Can you believe I’m sitting here watching for a Cadel miracle? I owe him after last year.

  268. JAWS permalink
    July 20, 2012 8:37 am

    Oh my head……………………………I cant believe she convinced me

  269. JAWS permalink
    July 20, 2012 8:38 am

    Sancty,

    Forget Cadel………………..Stick to the Swans

  270. July 20, 2012 8:42 am

    “Stick to the Swans”

    guffaw!…pretenders.

  271. el gordo permalink
    July 20, 2012 9:04 am

    ‘THE appointment of Gina Rinehart ally, fast-food franchise millionaire Jack Cowin, to the board of Fairfax Media has moved the nation’s richest person a step closer to the boardroom of the newspaper publisher.

    ‘Mr Cowin has joined as an independent director. While some sources who are close to the deliberations of the Fairfax board indicated that the appointment was not related to Mrs Rinehart’s attempt to win seats, they conceded it would not hurt.’

    Darren Davidson in the Oz

  272. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2012 9:30 am

    Yo’ cats bin funnin’ me?

    Can you believe I’m sitting here watching for a Cadel miracle?

    Shouldn’t dat be Cathedral miracle, JNM? 😆

  273. JAWS permalink
    July 20, 2012 10:14 am

    “While some sources who are close to the deliberations of the Fairfax board indicated that the appointment was not related to Mrs Rinehart’s attempt to win seats”

    OK……….if that’s the case………………so what has Fast Food got to do with Newspapers ……………………..would they like to elaborate on that ?

  274. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2012 10:21 am

    The Slipper case continues, despite the barrackers recently noting “how quiet the issue had become lately”. That’s probably because the media and opposition didn’t want it to be highlighted while the referral was being made to the prosecutors.

    Slipper is clearly a sleaze, and that’s not saying his accusers aren’t as well. But Slipper is the rorter who’s Speaker, appointed in a grubby deal by this government.

    …and remember the only reason he was appointed Speaker, was to allow Gillard to renege on her written agreement with Wilkie.

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/afp-refers-slipper-to-prosecutor-20120719-22d58.html

  275. el gordo permalink
    July 20, 2012 10:30 am

    “Young Warwick Fairfax came along, launched his abortive takeover, destroyed the company in my opinion.

    “I don’t think Fairfax has recovered from that day. It’s not been well administered.

    “Many times it’s had people on its boards who have no media experience – you wonder why. Why would you have a board that did not have people with media experience? It doesn’t make any sense to me.”

    Ita Buttrose

  276. JAWS permalink
    July 20, 2012 10:41 am

    ToM will be happy to hear that Alan Jones really ran heavily on the Bruce Wilson/Julia Gillard matter this morning for over 20 minutes. He had Michael Smith (shock jock sacked by 2UE over the matter last year) in his studio for an in depth interview.

    Jones vowed to pursue the matter again next week

  277. JAWS permalink
    July 20, 2012 10:43 am

    “I don’t think Fairfax has recovered from that day.”

    The same can be said about Warwick Fairfax as well……………………LOL

  278. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2012 10:44 am

    Ita Buttrose??? Your Ita Buttrose?

    +++++++++++++++

    Wally, re York … the capital of England … my grandfather used to take me on the double decker bus to York … back in the 1950’s (about an hours ride) … the invitation usually went something like this …

    Grandad: “Dost thee want to go off t’ York ont’ weekend, lad?

    Me: “Whoo, aye, please, grandad …”

    At the bus stop …

    Grandad: “So weere dost thee want ta sit, our T?”

    Me: “On’t top, up front?”

    Grandad: “Aye … go on then” and off we’d go … The Shambles, The Cathedral, fish “n’ chips and walking the battlements (what was left of them … very fond memr’ies …

    If you left the door open in winter my Grandad would yell out …

    “Oi! Put bloody wood in’t ‘oil” (ie put the wood in the hole … ie close the door) … very interesting dialect … Owd Yorkshire!

  279. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 20, 2012 10:50 am

    Gillard says there are no faceless men controlling the ALP and it is insulting to Labor MPs to suggest that they are told what to do by union leaders.

    Now Lenore Taylor has let the cat out of the bag:

    following discussions among unions this week, union leaders concede they can no longer hold their MPs in behind the Prime Minister.

    Whatever could she be talking about? Lenore Taylor Queen of the media beat-up???

  280. JAWS permalink
    July 20, 2012 11:02 am

    “…………and walking the battlements (what was left of them……………”

    Yep

    Did that too. A small museum in one of the towers as you probably know.

    Some really nice pubs up in those parts I must say.

    I cant remember what the local ale is ?

  281. JAWS permalink
    July 20, 2012 11:08 am

    “Whatever could she be talking about? Lenore Taylor Queen of the media beat-up???”

    Latika Bourke…………………………Lenore Taylor……………………………Laura Jayes (Skynews)

    Gee we have some ugly political reporters here in Oz……………………..LOL

  282. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 20, 2012 11:59 am

    “Gee we have some ugly political reporters here in Oz”

    It’s all in the eye of the beholder, Jaws. When I write my mens’ version of 50 Shades of Grey – the one where the guy has all the fun of exquisitely administered spanking prefectly proportioned pain I am going to devote a whole chapter to an evening with Lenore:

    “As I assumed the position on the knotted rug, which was slightly too close to the blazing fire for comfort, Lenore roughly tightened the knots and all the while droned on and on about Gillard’s virtues. It was exquisite in its perfection. I thrilled with anticipation, sensuously balanced on the pleasure-pain divide. Hands and feet bound in silk ropes and anchored tautly to the hollow silver tube protruding from my anus. And all the while she droned on and on and on – at first just boring and sickening in its sychophancy, her toadying whine it developed its own rhythm, inducing wave after wave of nausea.

    “Enough!” I screamed. “For pity’s sake stop!”

    But her smile slurred to a sneer. “The people need a Carbon Tax and they are getting it good and hard!” She slammed the tube and then poured in a snifter of cognac which also contained her contact lenses – the latter an homage to Julia she whispered.

    Four hours later she was still droning, still inflicting pain. The cognac absorbed quickly and left me numb and disoriented, sweat-soaked and febrile, aghast at my own wickedness and longing for more punishment.

    Lenore sensed my needs and shifted gear in her unstoppable drone-a-thon. She poured in some more cognac and started ranting about the evil Abbott. She reached for the number 5 cane with its braided metal-tipped whip. She brought it down hard, again and again and again. All through this frenzied flailing she screamed “AbbotAbbottAbbott AbbotAbbottAbbott AbbotAbbottAbbott AbbotAbbottAbbott”. The shrill voice slipped into the distance as I blacked out with the fading thought that Mistress Lenore loved me and forgave my sins.

  283. July 20, 2012 11:59 am

    Geezus, how many Clydesdales did it take to pull a double decker? Bit tough on those muddy roads in Winter I’d bet.

  284. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2012 12:00 pm

    There’s plenty to be told about Gillrd and Wilson.

    Gillard’s suppression attempts only feed the story. I think the speculation, which will always occur when a politician tries to duck an issue, will assist in her downfall.

    Is she still young & naive? Or did that stop when she hit 40?

  285. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2012 12:04 pm

    That’s nice SB. Have you met Lulu & Fifi? They run the dancing studio above the “Frankston Best Custom Design Panels & Windscreen Repairs”

  286. July 20, 2012 12:24 pm

    Saw that this morning, Tom.

    Mrs Sancty “She’s not stupid”

    Ol’ Sancty “Gulp, pant, gag…….”

  287. July 20, 2012 1:18 pm

    Tom, check your GMail……

    Seriously…………

    “Not heard of Bruce Wilson…………”

    I have tears streaming down my cheeks………..

  288. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2012 2:49 pm

    I’ve checked my email. That’s interesting, also unusual in sharing the email details of people that participate in blogs,

    I thought the blogging convention was that people that run blogs don’t hand out the email addresses of others.

  289. July 20, 2012 3:06 pm

    In other news, the NSW state electorate of Hawkesbury is apparently nowhere near the federal electorate of Dobell. In excess of 100km away in fact.

  290. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2012 3:32 pm

    ToM, I only post (used to write the occasional thread) but I’ve never given your email address to anyone … nor your James … 😉

  291. July 20, 2012 3:41 pm

    By way of explanation, Tom and I have received some correspondence from Peter Wicks, ex ALP candidate for Hawkesbury in NSW, and THE MAN when it comes to revealing the scandalous conduct of Kathy Jackson.

    As Tom is far more articulate and knowledgable in these areas, I shall leave it to him to describe in further detail. If he has any decency, he’ll do it in dot point form.

  292. July 20, 2012 3:42 pm

    “unusual in sharing the email details of people that participate in blogs,”

    Surely you’re not referring to your gmail address, you know, the one you plastered everywhere…?

  293. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2012 3:44 pm

    LOL!

    And he still hasn’t told me if I won a prize when I transferred the money!

  294. July 20, 2012 3:52 pm

    No it’s mine, which is slightly less anonymous.

  295. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2012 3:54 pm

    Exactly!

    I was only sharing my contact details with the 5 or 6 people here!

    …and it was only drumming up a little business for “The Dancing School” above Frankston Best Custom Design Panels & Windscreen Repairs. Knock on the red door down the lane and ask for Tom.

    Or email tomofmelbourne@gmail.com

    All “dancing” catered for.

  296. July 20, 2012 3:55 pm

    Reb, a question for you…….

    How many times has Tom posted in dot point form his considered view on union thugs and how often have you deleted such posts.

  297. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2012 4:00 pm

    I can answer that, James!

    ◊ Too fkn many!

    ◊ Not enough!

    Unions BOO!

  298. July 20, 2012 4:01 pm

    I don’t recall deleting any James, not even the duplicates!!

  299. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 20, 2012 4:03 pm

    Why would Wicks email people? Why not just come over here and tell us what he thinks? Is he shy?

  300. July 20, 2012 4:15 pm

    He thinks that Daily Trash is an appropriate name for this blog.

    He thinks Hawkesbury is nowhere close to Dobell.

    He thinks Tom and I are lifelong personal friends (we would be if Tom would only share).

    He’s up to his neck in investigating union rorting (or so he pretends) but he’s never heard of Bruce Wilson.

    He’s not quite certain whether he is accusing Lawler of interfering with the FWA investigation or not.

    He’s only very recently met Craig Thomson (because Hawkesbury is nowhere close to Dobell if you knew anything about electoral boundaries).

    He believes in censorship.

    He doesn’t believe in repetition (except if one is writing a dozen or so posts about Kathy Jackson).

  301. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2012 4:18 pm

    Wicks has published material that he believes reflects on the performance of Kathy Jackson in her position of leadership of the HSU.

    Much of it relates to administration, her salary, contracts that are possibly beneficial to her personally.

    I really don’t have any problem with this. Though I think if it was me posting that kind of stuff about a union official that was a friend of the ALP rather one that is inconvenient, I’d be accused of “union bashing”.

    Where Wicks oversteps the mark quite clearly, is in the innuendo and slur he makes on Lawler.

    • He’s alluded to Lawler’s influence in FWA, without actually understanding the organisational structure of FWA.
    • He said they “shared an office”
    • Associates that “share an office” do favours to each other
    • This explains how the FWA report was so biased against Thomson
    • He won’t/can’t explain how the report could have turned out this way given that it was supervised by Tim lee (background available on request) and released under FWA Pres Iain Ross (ditto re background)
    • He didn’t know whether Nassios (the investigator) & Lawler, “shared an office”, or worked on the same floor, or even in the same building.
    • He’s unable to justify anything about Lawler, and all the stuff he’s posted about Jackson does nothing to indicate that the FWA report on Thomson reached unreasonable conclusions. Perhaps other than the AEC matter.
    • He admits he’s “throwing mud” at Jackson, but objected when I added that he was doing this for “political reasons”. Apparently that’s putting words in his mouth!
    • He’s now sending emails that disparage this site.

    (NB, I looked up images of FWA offices, and posted the wrong one, which I corrected)

  302. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 20, 2012 4:19 pm

    Maybe he comes from South Australia. They do that sort of thing down there.

  303. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2012 4:20 pm

    • He said they FWA Investigator Nassios and VP Lawler “shared an office”

  304. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 20, 2012 4:21 pm

    “He’s now sending emails that disparage this site.”

    Does it get any lower than that?

  305. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2012 4:25 pm

    Associates that “share an office” do favours to each other

    😯

    I hope you meant “do favours FOR each other” …

    Where/who’s Wixxy sending emails about this site to? And in what context?

  306. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2012 4:30 pm

    This is the Melbourne FWA building. I asked him which office they share.

    I mean really, a Vice President of FWA has Chambers with light and views over the Yarra, or towards docklands, it’s elevated. An investigator has a workstation near the emergency exit, quite close to the basement.
    —————
    to FOR!

  307. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2012 4:33 pm

    …”office”

  308. July 20, 2012 5:16 pm

    Tom challenged Peter Wicks on his blog. Wicks refused to directly answer Tom’s questions. So Tom repeated his questions.

    I posted at the Cafe my opinion that Wicks’ campaign had a number of holes. I was challenged to do so on Wicks’ own blog. So I did. My post was deleted along with some of Tom’s and together we received a long winded email which has resulted in a funny little tennis match today.

    Tom and I won convincingly. Wicks is not much chop as it turns out.

  309. July 20, 2012 5:40 pm

    “He’s now sending emails that disparage this site.”

    People disparage this site…?

    I’m truly stunned.

    Perhaps if we could be more like those left leaning blogs who malign us so, you know by deleting comments that don’t fit the vibe or the point of view of the chief censor, we might be held in higher esteem..?

    On the other hand perhaps those hypocritical, sanctimonious, self-serving, condescending fuckwits can all just go and get fucked.

    Which evidently they do, by all accounts, at least when in Darling Harbour anyway…

    I’ll never be able to walk through Darling Harbour again without feeling like I need to be scrubbed down with Domestos.

    Just sayin’.

  310. July 20, 2012 5:45 pm

    From splatterbottom’s link…

    “Two men walked into a Coles Express on Grand Junction Road with a cup of urine and a cup of faeces and threw them at the operator before running away, police said in a statement.”

    A “cup of faeces”

    Is that what they’re calling the coffee they sell at coles service stations these days…?

  311. July 20, 2012 5:51 pm

    They must be selling that West End crap there as well.

    Toilet?

  312. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 20, 2012 5:58 pm

    Where would the blogosphere be if people didn’t enjoy throwing shit around?

  313. July 20, 2012 7:53 pm

    I wouldn’t drink West End at gunpoint.

    The only good SA beer is Coopers…most varieties…been enjoying a box of Vintage Ale since yesterday arvo, potent shit!

  314. You got mail permalink
    July 20, 2012 8:07 pm

    Mmm, Vintage Ale.

  315. el gordo permalink
    July 20, 2012 8:13 pm

    ‘Where would the blogosphere be if people didn’t enjoy throwing shit around?’

    This place is unique.

  316. TB Queensland permalink
    April 19, 2014 6:05 pm

    Gobsmacked!

    Uni-soccer? WTF is that!

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