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Rostrum: Special 2102 Lodnon Limpick Gaems Edition!

July 27, 2012

By popular request, or at least JAWS asked for it, here is a special 2102 LODNON LIMPICK GAEMS Special Edition of Rostrum.

It’s easy to be cynical about the LIMPICK GAEMS and so I shall.

In another age, the Limpicks were all about nations putting down there weapons of mass destruction for a couple of weeks, and instead of invading, raping, pillaging and looting each other they would instead join together in a spirit of “camaraderie” and see who was the best at running around a paddock, going for a paddle or throwing things (often themselves) into the air.

All this has now changed with the advent of DRUGS and an increasingly competitive spirit that no longer celebrates athleticism or physical fitness, but a billion dollar machine that many countries feverishly spend millions to host, then later regret like some post-coital nightmare when the purpose-built stadiums, condominiums and other ‘necessary infrastructure’ invariably transform into wishful thinking wastelands.

It’s a fkn crazy idea when you think about it.  Entire micro-cities built every four years for a two week period.

Only rampant capitalism could’ve dreamt up such a scheme, and it’s the myriad of sponsors that keep the show alive, hoping to redeem some of the millions they invest in labeling the latest Limpick hopeful with a Nike tick or Coke swirl.

From a financial perspective it’s a risky proposition. As such, its no wonder that the organizers (and the government), have deployed an army of “logo police” to ensure that no business uses the Limpick symbol or refers to any mention of the gaems unless they’ve paid millions to do so.

With the official opening just hours away organizers have been clamping down on local businesses using any words or logos associated with the Lodnon Limpicks.

Some shops are saying the rules are so stringent that Lodnon has basically become a police state.

One report confirms that a butcher shop was fined by the logo police for displaying a sign made of sausages in the likeness of the Limpick rings logo. That’s right.  A butchers shop.

A florist and a bagel shop also fell foul of the draconian laws.

Some shops are fighting back with their own creative methods to reinterpret these sanctions. There are squares instead of rings, and even intentional misspellings of ‘Olympic.’

Sebastian Coe, the chief Olympic organizer, set off a stir in a radio interview last week, declaring that spectators would not be allowed into stadiums wearing Pepsi T-shirts because Coke was “the official soft-drink sponsor.”

If you thought it couldn’t get any more ridiculous then you’d be mistaken.

Under the logo police guidelines, shops are not allowed to display the words ‘London’ or ‘Summer’ on their storefronts.

In London. During the Summer.

The world’s gone to hell in hand basket (or something like that).

Have lovely weekend.

reb.

 

 

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467 Comments
  1. July 27, 2012 12:47 pm

    Thankfully, it only runs for two weeks, and it only happens every four years, and maybe it actually comes to your country once in a century.

    Watch Gruen Sweat for a true insight into the Rympic Gomes. It’s the only part of the Rympic Gomes I’ll be a-watching

  2. July 27, 2012 12:59 pm

    F U C K T H E O L Y M P I C S

  3. JAWS permalink
    July 27, 2012 1:31 pm

    “GO IRAN!”

    Not during the daylight hours they wont

    It’s Ramadan !

  4. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 27, 2012 3:36 pm

    The condoms are all for show. The atheletes take so many steroids they should be called the Limpdick Games.

  5. TB Queensland permalink
    July 27, 2012 4:12 pm

    LOL! @ sp! Clever, sod … 😆

    When are the multi millionaire athletes (and I include all land and water sports) going to pay the country back for the money taxpayers “invested” in them?

    Are the gold medals really gold? And if an athlete represents Australia don’t the medals he or she wins, belong to Australia …?

    The Limpdick© Gains™ is really about MAKING MONEY … as soon as The Robber Barons saw the opportunity it was no longer open only to amateurs – with very strong regulations and all encompassing – as soon as it involved making a profit it became corrupted and sleazy (a bit like Western politics) …. no-one cared about the friendship of athletes and countries … peple were bribed and nurtured for decades on BOTH side of the administration … nations spend millions of taxpayers dollars for what? For what? For what? For fkn what!

    (Limpdick – Copyright Splatterbum Enterprises, 2012 … “Limpdick Gains” is a regurgitated trademake of TBQ Global … Limpdick used by permission)

  6. July 27, 2012 5:51 pm

    It sells lots of cereal boxes.

    Makes me fucken sick, the media oversaturation.

  7. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 27, 2012 6:04 pm

    “It sells lots of cereal boxes.

    Kellogs!! OI!OI!OI!

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    July 27, 2012 6:08 pm

    Sanitarium! OI! OI! OI!

  9. July 27, 2012 6:17 pm

    Uncle Toby’s

    OI!

  10. TB Queensland permalink
    July 27, 2012 6:31 pm

    Uncle Toby’s is not looking good with only one OI!

    LOWAN!

    OI! OI! OI! OI! Oi! (it loses rhythm with an even number!)

    (Disclaimer: Sanitarium was a long time client)

  11. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 27, 2012 6:34 pm

    TB, were you responsible for the cardboard on the inside or the outside?

  12. JAWS permalink
    July 27, 2012 6:47 pm

    A mate of mine was just complaining about how much his wife used to spend on the credit card.

    Upto $5,000 in any one month he complained.

    Then he said 4 months ago someone stole her handbag.

    So I said :
    “Gee…………………that means you’d have to cancel all her cards and get new ones for her”

    He Said :
    “Nah mate………………..I didn’t cancel them”

    So I Said :
    “What the Fuck………………………………Why Not ? ”

    He Said:
    ” Because whoever’s using them now is not spending nearly as much as she used to”

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    July 27, 2012 7:11 pm

    TB, were you responsible for the cardboard on the inside or the outside?

    Some posts deny all reality! And you reckon I’m “confused” FMD! Cobber!

  14. TB Queensland permalink
    July 27, 2012 7:18 pm

    LOL! Wally .. did you tell him that he can actually reduce the CC spend amount? You worry me sometimes all the time!

    We have a $4500 per month limit and have NEVER paid interest on our CC .. simple personal management … the world is full of fkn morons … no wonder the X&Y lot are obsessed with Vampires and Zombies … that’s what they live with and have become …

    I’d put up a smiley … but just realised my cynical comment was actually fkn TRUE!

    maybe I should call The Robber Barons … The Vampires and they would GET IT!

  15. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2012 12:01 am

    Go “All Bran”!!

  16. JAWS permalink
    July 28, 2012 1:16 am

    Onto real stuff. The Dow is up again half a percent.

    ……..Yay

    More important stuff

    Has anyone out there tried exterior solar outdoor lights ?

    Yes SOLAR

    . I’m looking at security lights that have 80 tiny LEDs
    inside them.

    Are they worth it to cast a light say 5 meters

  17. July 28, 2012 2:40 am

    any of u cynical codgers awake for the opening ceremonay?

  18. el gordo permalink
    July 28, 2012 6:44 am

    Not I Lekhni….I’m so over the whole thing already.

    Craig is a pathological liar.

    ”Of all the twists and turns in the HSU saga, the one thing I didn’t expect to hear was Craig Thomson standing in Parliament, under parliamentary privilege, and alleging that my partner had, as one newspaper headline screamed, ‘set me up with a bunch of hookers’.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/trauma-of-hsu-man-who-blew-the-whistle-20120727-22zmp.html#ixzz21rEBnd6A

  19. el gordo permalink
    July 28, 2012 10:41 am

    The Bolter sees this (correctly) as Rudd’s attempt to appear as a statesman with vision…he’s just the man we need.

    ‘Over the past week or so, Mr. Rudd has discussed his vision for a globally integrated China with UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, U.S. Vice-President Joe Biden, former secretary of state Henry Kissinger and, on Wednesday, (Canadian) Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird.’

  20. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2012 10:43 am

    If the Limpdicks choose to have their opening ceremony at such an odd hour, they can’t expect us to watch… I mean what’s going on?

    At the Sydney Limpdicks, the opening ceremony was in the evening! That was quite sensible.

  21. TB Queensland permalink
    July 28, 2012 11:21 am

    Has anyone out there tried exterior solar outdoor lights ?

    I have … for security (after the burglary) … not to five metres mine a re cheapies, two lights for $55 delivered and cast a bluish glow about 3 metres …very good in “complete” darkness … I put two up as an experiment and bought another two …

    They only have one LED, an adjustable sensor (brightness, sensitivity and duration), batteries, solar panel … I use exclusively in all my battery operated stuff) … my lights have worked during all the rain we’ve had (ie no solar) … highly recommended

    Link

    http://www.crazysales.com.au/solar-motion-sensor-lights.html?utm_campaign=Garden%20Lights&utm_term=SSL04x2&utm_source=myshopping.com.au&utm_medium=cpc

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    July 28, 2012 11:22 am

    I use METAL HYDRIDE exclusively in all my battery operated stuff – I also have a solar battery charger … AA, AAA, C

  23. JAWS permalink
    July 28, 2012 4:52 pm

    Thx TB,

    Yeah it is that blueish light. I bought one at bunnings today as a tester. Still charging but @ $90 it better be good.

    Why dont people condemn Turnbull for those stupid light bulbs we have to put up with these days.

    Back on the Olympic theme . Rio is next in 2016 as we all know. Guess who is bidding for 2020 ?

    It’s Madrid AND Rome

    Plus Tokyo .

    But if you think Tokyo is the obvious choice then consider this . The 2018 winter games are in south Korea. And never have both games been held in such proximity out of prime tv areas before.

  24. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2012 4:52 pm

    The New Zealand team Limpdick uniform is the most jingoistic.

    As they would say –

    EH! EH! EH!!

  25. July 28, 2012 5:29 pm

    Interesting read on the travesty of teh games…

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/07/24/the-games-people-play-exploring-the-olympic-ideal/

  26. el gordo permalink
    July 28, 2012 6:03 pm

    ‘The two new sports for 2016 in Rio will be golf and rugby sevens.’

    A bag with some sticks, even the Somali’s have a chance to garner fame at the next games with a little help.

  27. TB Queensland permalink
    July 28, 2012 6:16 pm

    A bag with some sticks, even the Somali’s have a chance to garner fame at the next games with a little help.

    You’ll be sent home to Greece if you keep up the racist remarks …

    apparently the Greek athlete sent home said the mosquitoes were so bad (in London?) that they would be able to feed on their own kind ,,, all the Africans at the games … (stand to be corrected quick listen as I started the car and switched off the radio …)

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Why dont people condemn Turnbull for those stupid light bulbs we have to put up with these days.

    Agree, the shite inside them (mercury) is far more dangerous than any CO2 … I just replaced three 12v downlights over our kitchen bench with LEDs (the packs said they were not dimmable ,,, but guess what?) … advantages — low DC voltage, LED’s draw less power than halogen, LED’s last much longer and burn with no heat … $30 for three @ Bunnings …

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    July 28, 2012 6:24 pm

    sreb, just read your Crikey link … very good article

    I read the six comments too … Fuckwits™ mostly … ( eg “any sporting event that can bring 204 nations together gets my vote …”) … seems people just don’t get the hypocrisy of billions of dollars for what?

    I couldn’t comment ’cause I’m not registered …

    The inconsistency is obvious, yet nobody complains.

    … er, some of us do …

  29. July 28, 2012 7:36 pm

    This is one of the campest cooking shows on TV…

    Peta Mathias – Cullinary Adventures SBS2 at 7.00pm

  30. el gordo permalink
    July 28, 2012 8:15 pm

    ‘You’ll be sent home to Greece if you keep up the racist remarks …’

    Yes please….

  31. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 28, 2012 8:26 pm

    An Olympic fact…

    In the1904, St Louis games, there were 650 athletes, 580 were from the USA.

    Interesting medal count – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1904_Summer_Olympics

  32. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 29, 2012 8:34 pm

    Personally, I think the ladies gymnastics even would be idea for half time at the AFL.

  33. July 29, 2012 9:12 pm

    What about the much maligned “ribbon twirling?” Heck I reckon even I could have a crack at that…

  34. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 29, 2012 9:40 pm

    Yes, being a sports aficionado, there is something to be said for that one too.

    Though I’m not sure I’d like to see your “crack” at it!

  35. Ol' Sancty permalink
    July 29, 2012 10:00 pm

    Sports that shouldn’t be at the Olympics…..

    Basketball
    Tennis
    Synchronized anything
    Beach fkn volleyball (although I’d rethink that one if we could replace that Cook with maybe that hurdler Jenneke)
    Dressage (I mean, what IS that)
    Road cycling (I mean what are Tour riders doing backing up at Olympics)

    If it’s not the pinnacle of that particular sport it shouldn’t be there.

  36. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 30, 2012 9:33 am

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/industrial-relations/fwa-bid-to-regain-publics-support-as-hsu-taint-sparks-review/story-fn59noo3-1226438131285

    FAIR Work Australia president Iain Ross has moved to repair the damage inflicted on the body’s reputation by the Health Services Union scandal, introducing a code of conduct and performance benchmarks that include timely decision-making.

    It follows Justice Ross expressing concern in May about a speech made by a tribunal vice-president, Graeme Watson, in which he said the government’s review of the Fair Work Act could end up “missing the boat entirely” and the industrial relations system’s emphasis on adversarial disputes was undermining productivity.

    Justice Ross confirmed he had held talks with the tribunal’s other vice-president, Michael Lawler, the partner of HSU national secretary Kathy Jackson.

    Justice Ross has previously called for the tribunal’s industrial relations functions to be legally split from its role in ensuring unions and registered employer organisations operate within their own rules.

    He also wants the Fair Work name changed, suggesting the Australian Workplace Commission or the Australian Workplace Relations Commission.

    So, Iain Ross confirms he doesn’t like working for a slogan (ie “Fair Work Australia”), he’s concerned about the damage caused by the 3+ year Thomson/HSU investigation, and he wants FWA to stop being seen as partisan.

    Fair enough.
    ————————
    I like beach vollyball.

  37. JAWS permalink
    July 30, 2012 9:58 am

    Do I detect a sense of “who cares” around the general public attitude to the Olympics this time around.

    Has the community grown tired of Stephanie Rice and her Tweets, John Steffanson and his ranting and accusations of racial abuse even though his times are little better than a Saturday morning Little Athletics meet, Nick Darcy and his general attitude of “its all about me “, Russell Marks and his wife’s whinge about not being able to room together.

    Other than the Opening Ceremony I gotta admit I really couldn’t give a toss that our swim relay team failed this morning.

    Oi…………..Oi………………Oi

  38. JAWS permalink
    July 30, 2012 9:59 am

    “Sports that shouldn’t be at the Olympics…..”

    Well its going to get worse……………..Golf is in Rio in 2016

  39. el gordo permalink
    July 30, 2012 10:15 am

    They say the UK media never say anything nasty about their own side when they ‘choke’. It’s just a rumour.

  40. TB Queensland permalink
    July 30, 2012 3:06 pm

    Wally,

    Serious question … members of my family has just paid off their mortgage … he earns a six figure salary in the mining industry.

    They are now considering purchasing a property in Queenstown, NZ, and believe that they can do that and take advantage somehow of negative gearing paying Australianm tax?

    He was born in NZ but is an Australian citizen (arrived when he was four, father, NZ, mother Australian) … I can’t see how buying a property in NZ could take advantage of Australian negative gearing laws?

    Your take?

  41. public toilet permalink
    July 30, 2012 3:07 pm

    Well, I’m absolutely stoked about the abysmal failure of the Oz Men’s Swim Team.

    What a joy to behold the same slavish media which has spent years pumping them up…instantaneously tearing them down upon their EPIC jingo FAIL.

  42. public toilet permalink
    July 30, 2012 3:09 pm

    Happy Days!

    A bitter pill for flagsturbators who derive some sense of worth from nationalist exploits.

  43. July 30, 2012 3:29 pm

    Yeah, Toilet, a win for the leftie bearded Unstrayans no doubt!!

    But how about our Aussie Equestrian team??? Hey?? OI!!!

    And in other news, sad news for Jane over at the Cafe, I’ve proven that Li’l Sancty wasn’t a fluke. Sometime in late January, Mrs Sancty and I are expecting another little Swans supporter. Expect some late night incoherence throughout Feb!!

  44. TB Queensland permalink
    July 30, 2012 3:38 pm

    Expect some late night incoherence throughout Feb!!

    Just Feb? It’s been happening for over 60 months … that I can recall!

  45. el gordo permalink
    July 30, 2012 3:43 pm

    Congratulations young James.

  46. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 30, 2012 3:48 pm

    Something is familiar about this site, can’t quite put my finger on it:

    http://cleansweephsu3.com/2012/07/08/a-democratic-hsu3-4/

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    July 30, 2012 4:06 pm

    Yes! James, congratulations … wishes for a pigeon pair! 😉

  48. public toilet permalink
    July 30, 2012 4:11 pm

    Onya, snacty!
    🙂

    Still, the Olympians are shit. I love a good national disgrace to put the whole wastage into perspective.

    ** sincere congratulations.

  49. public toilet permalink
    July 30, 2012 4:14 pm

    Exploiting dumb (are there any other kind?) horses for olympic medals.
    How proud the jingotards must feel.

  50. July 30, 2012 4:31 pm

    Congratulations Snacty!

  51. July 30, 2012 4:44 pm

    sad news for Jane over at the Cafe

    congratulations, mate! have you spread the good cheer at teh cafe?

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    July 30, 2012 4:48 pm

    James, was No 2 planned?

  53. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 30, 2012 5:06 pm

    That seems like a nice site AO. I’ll have to look more closely!

    Congratulations James. When is the cue going in the rack?

  54. July 30, 2012 5:13 pm

    Thank you all. Had to look up that thing about pigeons.

    Yes, planned in as much as it was my birthday 12 weeks ago and I made it count 🙂

    I’m banned from the Cafe, Lekhni. It’s like being banned from the dentist.

    Can’t see myself giving it away just yet, Tom. I feel as though I still have a lot to offer.

  55. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 30, 2012 5:30 pm

    Congratulations James. I can heartily recommend not giving it away just yet. I have eight, five still at home. That means getting by on less, driving old cars and not travelling much, but that is trivial compared to the fun we’ve had. And now that most of them are adults it is quite rewarding to see that they have turned out to be decent human beings..

  56. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 30, 2012 5:49 pm

    I would like to add my congratulations to Mr & Mrs Sancty-moan-we-r-us

    A birthday gift that will keep on giving!

    So, Iain Ross confirms he doesn’t like working for a slogan (ie “Fair Work Australia”), he’s concerned about the damage caused by the 3+ year Thomson/HSU investigation, and he wants FWA to stop being seen as partisan.

    Fair enough.

    TomM, re Ross’ new FWA conduct guide, what about the large segments on conflict of interest and members own conduct?

    http://www.fwa.gov.au/documents/resources/FWA_MemberConductGuide.pdf

  57. JAWS permalink
    July 30, 2012 5:53 pm

    TB

    I had a similar circumstance about 5 years ago and assuming not too many changes to NZ law or the exact personal circumstances generally the answer is “Yes”.

    But will his Bank lend to them when the security is overseas ?

    Do they really want to speculate on the AUD/NZD ?

    They’ll probably need to complete an NZ tax return (more costs) plus their Australian ITR becomes a whole lot more complex.

    And if they sell it even though there might be no capital gains tax in NZ if they are residents for Australian Taxation purposes at the time they will need to include their capital gain as assessable here.

    More here

    http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/content.aspx?doc=/content/00313892.htm

    Been out most of the day

    Congrats Sancty

  58. JAWS permalink
    July 30, 2012 5:57 pm

    “………sad news for Jane over at the Café…………”

    Crazy Jane is the Leftwing version of Annie Barrie of Kiama.

    Just a ranting nutcase…

  59. TB Queensland permalink
    July 30, 2012 6:15 pm

    Tanks, Wally!

    =====================================

    James, if the baby was planned will you give the baby bonus back …?

    Had to look up that thing about pigeons

    🙄

    =======================================

    Crazy Jane is the Leftwing version of Annie Barrie of Kiama.

    Way OTT, certainly not true and very insulting, Wally … wosh yo mouf out!

  60. el gordo permalink
    July 30, 2012 6:19 pm

    ‘…own or have an interest in assets located outside Australia that had a total value of A$50,000 or more?

    ‘You can ‘receive income’ even if it is held overseas for you.’

    This may put a damper on my Sri Lankan ambitions.

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    July 30, 2012 6:24 pm

    This may put a damper on my Sri Lankan ambitions.

    And your upcoming trip to Greece, egg … 😦

  62. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 30, 2012 7:23 pm

    ALERT – please scroll past!! (other than AO)

    AO – I’m entirely in favour of specific guidelines about conflict of interest in public officials. There should be more of it.

    But the conspiracy theorists relay overplayed their hand when they alleged influence/interference in the Thomson investigation by Lawler, there is simply no evidence of this.

    Common sense would sense would suggest that Lawler probably discussed the HSU in detail with Jackson, and provided some guidance. But that’s far short of the stuff that Wicks and his mates were talking about.

  63. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 30, 2012 7:32 pm

    Why isn’t surfing an Olympic sport, or proper horse racing (and punting on it). How about go karts or Bathurst style car racing?

    Get some real sports on the Olympic agenda.

  64. el gordo permalink
    July 30, 2012 7:43 pm

    ‘And your upcoming trip to Greece, egg … ‘

    I’ll defer that indefinitely, but a bungalow up country Sri Lanka in Kandy has appeal.

    Fleeing from the southern hemisphere winter and reducing my carbon footprint are obviously high on my agenda.

  65. Ol' Sancty permalink
    July 30, 2012 9:10 pm

    Give the baby bonus back????

    😯

    Why do you think we’re having this kid??!!

  66. public toilet permalink
    July 30, 2012 9:41 pm

    * catholicism?

    ** kidding

    *** one thing I don’t see you as is an unemployed, feral breeder.
    ….were, coz you aren’t.

  67. public toilet permalink
    July 30, 2012 9:47 pm

    Having kids is a unique journey.

    I’m actually sleeping at the bedside of mine at the WCH tonight. She had her adenoids & tonsils torn out & cauterized today.
    I held her hand as she was anaesthetised this morning.

    Freaky shit.

    She’s tough & brave.

    Can’t wait to get out of the damned city tomoz; too many humans.

  68. July 30, 2012 10:16 pm

    Dressage is not to be scoffed at.

    I went to see it at the Sydney 2000 Olympics.

    If I remember correctly we bought a grossly over-priced bottle of champagne, some caesar chicken sandwiches and watched some people fanny about making horses mince this way and that.

    It was perfectly civilised. Although part of me wonders whether I should’ve seen the power sport of ribbon twirling instead…

  69. James of North Melbourne permalink
    July 30, 2012 11:26 pm

    Christopher Pyne is a horse?

    😯

  70. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 31, 2012 8:56 am

    Very funny. But some people don’t seem to appreciate that blogging is a very serious activity.
    ——————————–
    http://www.news.com.au/national/former-labor-leader-kim-beazley-told-us-labor-is-doomed/story-fncynjr2-1226438958015
    AUSTRALIA’S Ambassador to the US Kim Beazley has told American political figures Labor could be left with just 30 seats after the next federal election.
    The former Labor leader is reported to have delivered a “deeply pessimistic” view of the Gillard government’s “challenges” during a series of high-powered meetings two weeks ago in Washington”

    What would Beasley know? He should at least have the good sense to blame the media.

  71. public toilet permalink
    July 31, 2012 9:54 am

    Beazley is a Murdoch stooge.

    Stupid realist!

  72. el gordo permalink
    July 31, 2012 11:08 am

    Don’t know why the guvmint got a bounce in the polls. Did I miss sumthin’?

  73. July 31, 2012 11:14 am

    “Did I miss sumthin’?”

    Julia’s been on holiday in Port Douglas..

    The public like her more when she’s not around.

  74. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 11:29 am

    LOL! James!

    A SHORT TRUE STORY

    Yesterday my son asked me to pick him up in the morning. He had negotiated a deal, over the last week, to sell his 4WD (he’s just bought a new one) and the buyer wanted to have it checked out mechanically. I saw my son hand over the keys to the bloke he had sold it too, picked him up and drove him home.

    We then took his ’66 Mustang to a garage to have it dyno tuned.

    When he rang in the afternoon at 4:55 to ask me to take him to pick his Mustang up he told me that the guy should have been back with the 4WD at 4:30 … I picked him up at 5:00 … we were both, by then, a little concerned that something had happened to the 4WD.

    We got home about 6:00, no 4WD and so he rang the police … I had gone home by the time the police turned up … my son described the guy … the cops knew him and said a warrant was out for his arrest … this wasn’t his first time it seems … my son rang me to keep me informed and because he had given my name to the police as a wintness …

    All of us pretty angry (not too many people dud my sone and/or me!!) …

    Around 10:30 pm last night my son rang … the 4WD had been traced – sold to a major local dealer … Dept of Transport had picked up the details and traced forged paperwork back to the dealer … sold that morning …

    So within twelve hours the car has been stolen, reported missing, traced and found by police/transport dept c-operation … I for one was impressed …

    Question now is, who owns the $300 deposit the guy left? We know the car goes back to my son … the poor old dealer now has the loss … they bought a stolen vehicle.

  75. July 31, 2012 11:49 am

    That’s extraordinary TB….!

  76. July 31, 2012 12:12 pm

    Extraordinary……and a good outcome.

    The dealer can cop the loss I reckon. Surely they should have checks for whether cars are owned by the sellers.

  77. July 31, 2012 12:42 pm

    That’s what I was thinking Snacty…

  78. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 1:11 pm

    That’s what I was thinking Snacty…

    Yes, we discussed that too … remember to’ this guy has a record … what we couldn’t understand is if he had, “done it a few times now” as the cops said … and there was an arrest warrant out on him!

    Still as my son said (before it was found) at least no-onewas hurt … (meaning physically) … be intersting to see what’s decideda biut the $300 though … my son told the cops, the bloke wasn’t getting it back and no-one argued …

    The longer I’m around tho’, the more I believe in karma!

    My daughter was really angry …

  79. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 1:23 pm

    Andy Muirhead pleads guilty to child porn….

    Ya never know … The Minister and I were big fans (still are) of The Collectors and always liked Andy … very sad tale …

  80. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 31, 2012 1:26 pm

    Glad it wasn’t the Mustang though.

    Your son must get the good taste from his mother.

  81. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 1:52 pm

    Chuckle … @ ToM 😉

  82. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 2:08 pm

    Update on the car!

    Daughter in law just rang …

    Son, saw it in a caryard this morning (don’t know whose) … took a photo … rang the police and now its been taken into custody! (ie siezed … )

    Still when he gets it back he can tell the next buyer that it was a stolen car … 😆

  83. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 31, 2012 2:16 pm

    …The dealer can cop the loss I reckon. Surely they should have checks for whether cars are owned by the sellers.

    That’s what I think too. I know you got the car back from the dealer TB, but did the guy get caught or did he get away?

    I was just discussing this with my daughter, she says she wouldn’t have let someone take the car out of her possession until it was fully paid for. Don’t the mobile mechanics come to the house for a check? Did he give you a story about a mate who was a mechanic or something?
    I would probably have done the same thing as your son TB, wouldn’t think people would do such a thing!

    Andy Muirhead pleads guilty to child porn….

    I used to enjoy the collectors too and thought andy came across as a really pleasant, likeable personality. I haven’t seen the show since, I thought it had been cut. Guess that is the thing, you never do know what is behind the ‘public’ facade of anyone.

    Excuse my ignorance, I’m not really into porn of any kind, it’s all exploitation of people to me. Can anyone tell me, is there a link between being a perpetrator of child abuse [sexual, physical and emotional] and child porn on computers? I realise that the abuse has to exist to have the pictures of it, but does that mean that the observer of it, the collector, is also an active participant in the abuse of children themselves?

    Muirhead really is a collector isn’t he?

  84. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 31, 2012 2:37 pm

    The Olympics have been a bit of a farce haven’t they? Why do the athletes and coaches etc feel they have to make excuses or explanatory statements for our athletes not winning races and not winning medals? We don’t care do we as long as they have fun competing and do their best on the day?

    Do we as a sports obsessed nation expect too much of them? Do they expect too much of themselves after hearing and believing all the hype and ‘motivation spin’ from everyone around them and can’t bear losing? Or is it the media always trying to create a controversy [like Fat Liesel]?

  85. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 2:41 pm

    I would probably have done the same thing as your son TB, wouldn’t think people would do such a thing!

    Hit the nail on the head, KL, as usual … my sone is a senior manager in the motor industry and not much gets past him … he’s been dealing with some serious changes at work and I supect he got distratcted … (father’s defence?) … very out of character for him … but I’ ve always said that serious learning always comes with a price … the days events were passed onto ALL five of my grandkids … as I said earlier his sister was really angry that someone could do that to her brother … she said to me last night, “Its not as if we are the bad guys!” …

    Still just makes us all more vigil … the grots seem to be increasing in number just lately …

    Muirhead really is a collector isn’t he? Whoooooo!

    … it’s all exploitation of people to me Not sure about that, adults do it for the money as I understand it and often as a choice!

    … is there a link between being a perpetrator of child abuse [sexual, physical and emotional] and child porn on computers? … does that mean that the observer of it, the collector, is also an active participant in the abuse

    Absolutely! If the perpretrators are not reported by the “viewer” then you become an accessory after the fact … a chargeable and recordable criminal offence … in some jurisdictions in Australia (and overseas) equal to the original crime … and rightly so …

    … I have two grandchildren over 18 and under 21 – their innocence of life is sometimes blindingly obvious and occasionally astoundingly insightful … more the latter than the former though … I suspect (with respect) that, sp, would agree?

    In families its about sharing information and experiences … that’s what makes us smarter than the norm I reckon …

    I’m about to start listing our little Life’s Clichés (mine and The Minister’s)

    ie

    If in doubt don’t …
    Never make a profit from family or friends …
    Quick to criticise, quick to praise …

    And many more that have helped us through …

  86. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 2:42 pm

    From …

    Absolutely! If the perpretrators are not reported by the “viewer” then you become an accessory after the fact … a chargeable and recordable criminal offence … in some jurisdictions in Australia (and overseas) equal to the original crime … and rightly so …

    … I have two grandchildren over 18 and under 21 – their innocence of life is sometimes blindingly obvious and occasionally astoundingly insightful … more the latter than the former though … I suspect (with respect) that, sp, would agree?

    In families its about sharing information and experiences … that’s what makes us smarter than the norm I reckon …

    I’m about to start listing our little Life’s Clichés (mine and The Minister’s)

    ie

    If in doubt don’t …
    Never make a profit from family or friends …
    Quick to criticise, quick to praise …

    And many more that have helped us through …

    … my post … not KL’s … apologies KL …

  87. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 2:44 pm

    The Olympics have been a bit of a farce haven’t they?

    As they have been since they dropped their amateur status! Money! Money! Money!

  88. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 31, 2012 3:03 pm

    Not sure about that, adults do it for the money as I understand it and often as a choice!

    They wouldn’t need or want to exploit themselves for profit if there wasn’t the industry for it.

    Absolutely! If the perpretrators are not reported by the “viewer” then you become an accessory after the fact … a chargeable and recordable criminal offence …

    I meant more along the lines of the viewer being a child sex abuser themselves, a paedophile? Is there any link between obtaining & viewing child porn and being a perpetrator of the abuse [not simply a passive viewer and failing to report the crime].

  89. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 31, 2012 3:06 pm

    I’m about to start listing our little Life’s Clichés (mine and The Minister’s)

    I suggest you incorporate that into one of those little photo book things, or make a decorative scroll for the wall.

  90. July 31, 2012 3:15 pm

    They wouldn’t need or want to exploit themselves for profit if there wasn’t the industry for it.

    I don’t know any porn stars or pros (that I know of) but from what I understand, for the most part, they are in the industry willingly and because they want to be. Maybe it’s the lonely blokes being exploited? As long as the sellers of the product and the buyers of the product are adults of (reasonably) sound mind, I don’t see a problem……unless it’s my daughter of course.

    I meant more along the lines of the viewer being a child sex abuser themselves, a paedophile? Is there any link between obtaining & viewing child porn and being a perpetrator of the abuse [not simply a passive viewer and failing to report the crime].

    I think it probably comes down to the number of images viewed/stored etc. The ones that get arrested seem to have thousands stored. I’m sure there’s a difference between a viewer and a participator (very gentle term), and I’m sure the line is indistinct in many cases.

  91. el gordo permalink
    July 31, 2012 3:50 pm

    Barry O’Farrell wants $40 billion from the Chinese for infrastructure building in NSW…the Greiner Plan to be released next month.

    Bullet trains et al…a wise investment if they can get leasehold on the track and half a kilometre on either side (for security reasons) should provide a handsome return in the years ahead.

  92. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 31, 2012 4:10 pm

    I’m sure there’s a difference between a viewer and a participator (very gentle term), and I’m sure the line is indistinct in many cases

    On TV now, 12,000 photos and 24 videos:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-31/muirhead-pleads-guilty-to-child-porn/4166102?WT.svl=news1

    …Former ABC presenter Andy Muirhead was caught with “sadistic and explicit” child porn…

    … About 11,000 images fell in the least serious category, often showing naked children in erotic poses, but hundreds were more explicit.

    At least 60 were in the worst category, showing the explicit or sadistic treatment of children.

    The ages of the children depicted ranged from three to 14.

    Mr Lincoln described Muirhead as a regular and consistent viewer of child pornography who downloaded material almost every day…

  93. July 31, 2012 4:16 pm

    “Muirhead really is a collector isn’t he?”

    🙂

  94. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 4:41 pm

    Why Apple is run by a bunch of turds nerds …

    SAMSUNG’S chief product officer has lashed out at Apple, likening the companies’ ongoing legal battles to fighting over rectangles.
    “For us, it’s unreasonable that we’re fighting over rectangles, that that’s being considered as an infringement, which is why we’re defending ourselves,” Kevin Packingham told Wired.
    Mr Packingham said the court case “defies logic”.
    “In some cases, for most of us in the industry, it’s defying common sense,” he said.
    “We’re all scratching our heads and saying, ‘How is this possible that we’re actually having an industry-level debate and trying to stifle competition?’
    “Consumers want rectangles and we’re fighting over whether you can deliver a product in the shape of a rectangle.”

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/smartphones/apple-vs-samsung-why-are-we-fighting-over-rectangles/story-fn6vihic-1226439554513

    This is the same company that stole the name of The Beatles and agreed not to do any business in the music industry … iTunes anyone?

    What a bunch of Fuckwits™ … it wouldn’t be so bad if Apple actually made “superior” products …

    … they did not invent touchscreens, and rectangular shapes should not be patentable anyway … just as genomes shouldn’t … the fkn Yanks are ridiculously simple minded sometimes …

  95. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 31, 2012 5:06 pm

    … they did not invent touchscreens, and rectangular shapes should not be patentable anyway … just as genomes shouldn’t … the fkn Yanks are ridiculously simple minded sometimes …

    The predatory practice of corporations must be stopped, no-one seems to be acting in the interests of consumer protection, just the right to gouge money for nothing.

    Waiting for ‘our’ internet to be protected censored on behalf of the mutual interests of government, corporations and religious lobbyists – all in the name of protection from child porn and ‘illegal downloaders” eg those who have bought a product and wish to share their own personal property, just as I lend a book to a friend.

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 5:28 pm

    … just as I lend a book to a friend.

    Absolutely! KL 😉

  97. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 5:44 pm

    NEWSFLASH!

    Did you guys know that the Olympic games ur on in Londinium! Right now!

    Foxtel have a deal goin’ an everyfing …

    Another fkn four years and poof! (apologies to you know who)

  98. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 31, 2012 5:56 pm

    Apple are bastards. This is an interesting article from a Samsung perspective.

    Anti-competitive behaviour ought to be criminalised. I don’t see the Coalition doing much about that, but neither is this government. Maybe unions like monopolies because they can put on enough pressure to share the monopoly profits with the workers. That works fine if you work for a monopolist, but the rest of us pay for it.

    The FTA with the US was more about protecting monopolies than freeing up trade.

    “Waiting for ‘our’ internet to be protected censored on behalf of the mutual interests of government, corporations and religious lobbyists – all in the name of protection from child porn and ‘illegal downloaders” eg those who have bought a product and wish to share their own personal property, just as I lend a book to a friend.”

    The writing in the book isn’t personal property under the law. But the point you are making about Conroy is correct. And don’t forget those who would also have the government censor blogs like this as part of their media regulation.

  99. July 31, 2012 5:59 pm

    I’ve seen Andy Muirhead around Hobart a few times.

    Can you imagine the sense of humiliation and shame he must be going through right now?

    I am in no way condoning what he’s done, but given the publicity I wouldn’t be surprised if he tops himself.

  100. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 6:16 pm

    Can you imagine the sense of humiliation and shame he must be going through right now?

    I can actually, sreb, but then my family protection kicks in and then my love for all helpless little children and my heart become’s stony … he seemed like a nice young bloke – was/is he married?

  101. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 31, 2012 6:26 pm

    I am in no way condoning what he’s done, but given the publicity I wouldn’t be surprised if he tops himself.

    He seems to have had much more media attention than other child porn collectors.

    People should be concerned about the levels of corporate activism that we are seeing nowadays [the shutdown of funds to assange/wikileaaks]

    Twitter suspends British reporter over NBC attack:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-31/british-reporter-suspended-from-twitter-over-nbc-tweet/4166226

    …A British journalist has slammed American television network NBC after his Twitter account was suspended after a scathing attack on the broadcaster’s delayed Olympic coverage.

    The Independent’s Los Angeles correspondent Guy Adams (@guyadams) said his account was suspended as a punishment for publishing the corporate email address of Gary Zenkel, an NBC executive in charge of Olympic coverage…

    I hope the hactivist group Anonymous go after both twitter & NBC!

  102. July 31, 2012 6:28 pm

    I don’t know whether he was or is single or married TB.

    I think the whole porn thing is a complex area.

    Presumably he’s watching with his “old father” in hand, so presumably he’s viewing it as essentially “sexual fantasy material”.

    The complexity is further compounded by the fact that (apparently) these days what would constitute “child porn” can be created digitally without any “victim” as such.

    I shudder at what constitutes the “extreme” stuff, and am completely baffled as to why someone would want to “get off” on seeing a child hurt and degraded.

    The fact that someone as innocent looking as Andy Muirhead is involved in this sort of stuff just goes to show that it must be bloody everywhere.

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 6:45 pm

    He seems to have had much more media attention than other child porn collectors

    The vagaries of high profile, methinks, KL …

    (you watch “methinks” will now pop up everywhere … always amuses me!)

    Presumably he’s watching with his “old father”, so it is essentially “fantasy material”.

    FFS! sreb, does “age” have a “protection” in this shit … he had stuff “three years to 15” …t me check your link again!

    The ages of children depicted ranged from three to 14 and at least 60 were in the worst category, showing the explicit or sadistic treatment of children.

    And that just promotes the “dirty old man” image —- one that I certainly object too! Sorry mate, but I think (like you, I suspect) Andy Muirhead seemed like a nice bloke and he’s actually let us nice blokes down! And maybe we feel guilty too … because nice blokes will now be seen as the enemy … gay or not!

  104. TB Queensland permalink
    July 31, 2012 6:47 pm

    I think the whole porn thing is a complex area.

    Oh, yes … and it always amuses me that “porn” is a “problem” of the males …

  105. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 31, 2012 7:07 pm

    The fact that someone as innocent looking as Andy Muirhead is involved in this sort of stuff just goes to show that it must be bloody everywhere.

    I was thinking about that today as well. It has to be why the whole child porn, sex abuse and paedophilia problem remains so prevalent, too many people in positions of power and influence are protecting themselves and their mates. It is everywhere, in all aspects of society, the judiciary, schools, church, police, the pub, community groups etc.

    One of the reasons [years ago now] I refused to let my son have anything to do with the local scouts or any group where adults can have unsupervised contact with kids. I don’t regret it, he didn’t miss out on anything.

    Oh, yes … and it always amuses me that “porn” is a “problem” of the males …

    I think there are a lot of women who are just as involved by recruiting newbies or are enablers of the industry by not saying anything.

  106. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 31, 2012 7:12 pm

    Oh, I need to correct the first and last paras of my comment above

    “…Me was thinking about that today as well…

    …Methinks there are a lot of women…”

    😆

  107. July 31, 2012 7:13 pm

    Fingers crossed for another EPIC FAIL misfiring of Teh Missile.

    GO CHINA!

  108. Tony permalink
    July 31, 2012 7:18 pm

    Go the weapon!

    OI! OI! OI!

  109. July 31, 2012 7:45 pm

    FAIL…women’s fly…FAIL…2 ockertards in a rowboat…still to come, more missile FAIL…

  110. July 31, 2012 7:48 pm

    As for porn…anything goes between two, or more, consenting adults. It presses primal buttons between the eyes & the cranial smut sector.

    It goes without saying that exploiting those who cannot protect themselves is not on; be they child, woman, man, animal, vegetable or mineral.

  111. James of North Melbourne permalink
    July 31, 2012 8:02 pm

    Oh right….so cucumbers are out?

  112. el gordo permalink
    July 31, 2012 8:11 pm

    They say tomatoes have feelings, but I’ve seen no evidence of this.

  113. July 31, 2012 8:38 pm

    Who’s going to think of the carrots…?

  114. July 31, 2012 9:01 pm

    Pinecones are fine, but strictly tapered end first, or extraction may become debilitating.

  115. el gordo permalink
    July 31, 2012 9:53 pm

    ‘Failure to halt a full-blown debt debacle in Spain and Italy at this delicate juncture – with China, India and Brazil by now in the grip of a broken credit cycle and the US on the cusp of fresh recession even before the “fiscal cliff” hits – would tip the entire global system into a downward spin, triggering the sort of feedback loop that caused such havoc in late 2008.’

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard UK Telegraph

  116. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 31, 2012 10:10 pm

    And just to continue with his nonsense, Wicks now posts-

    “Also worth remembering, the question mark regarding this whole investigation is over Michael Lawler, fiancé of Kathy Jackson, and proud appointee of Tony Abbott.”

    He might care to explain exactly how this is the case.

    I’ll post it here because he’s also too much of a coward shy to allow me to comment on his site.

  117. TB Queensland permalink
    August 1, 2012 8:22 am

    And just to continue with his nonsense, Wicks now posts

    Seems we have a break-though! At least you realise that its “nonsense” …

  118. el gordo permalink
    August 1, 2012 8:44 am

    TB it appears you are the only one here that still goes to the kaf and the gatekeeper allows you in?

  119. August 1, 2012 9:07 am

    Andy Muirhead now says that the images on his pc were vile and disgusting.

    I wonder when that occurred to him, after the 2000th one…?

  120. JAWS permalink
    August 1, 2012 10:47 am

    On the ASX Telstra continues its onward march past $4.00.

    Thank God for the NBN

  121. JAWS permalink
    August 1, 2012 10:50 am

    “…………triggering the sort of feedback loop that caused such havoc in late 2008.’”

    Funny thing is that was an excellent time to buy a new car or a house. I got a fantastic deal on a car back then and houses from deceased estates with multiple beneficiaries were going for huge discounts.

  122. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 1, 2012 11:26 am

    Verbal Wicks? Not me, I’ve only put his own words back to him. He then tries to give his original words a meaning that defies reality.

    Wicks is only attacking Jackson as a distraction to Thomson. When someone attacks a union official for political reasons, that’s usually called “union bashing”

    Wicks simply prefers to surround himself with sycophants.

    What is it with these people and their bannings (in contravention of their own rules), routine censorship, and preferring to choose their own (soft) opponents?

  123. August 1, 2012 5:36 pm

    So, the Oz Lympic Team is the new Richmond…olympically speaking.

    The promise of success seasoned with the flavour of failure & disappointment; spat upon by fans & critics alike.

  124. TB Queensland permalink
    August 1, 2012 7:24 pm

    TB it appears you are the only one here that still goes to the kaf and the gatekeeper allows you in?

    Dunno … why … does it concern you?

  125. August 2, 2012 9:38 am

    A wag by the name of Ewen McRae tweeted this morning…”I think the lesson for this morning is ‘always listen to a bearded man in a T’ “

  126. August 2, 2012 10:51 am

    Missile misfires…AGAIN!

    EPIC OLYMPIC FAIL!

    Running off at the mouth ahead of the fact makes OZ olympians look like cocky, egomaniacal dickheads. All of their patriotic lickspittles should be demanding a tax refund for their less than adequate performances.

    Oz olympic exceptionalism shown to be the hollow jingo-wankathon that it always has been!

  127. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 2, 2012 11:08 am

    Yes toilet, listening now to oz commentary during the race “the missile has got the gold medal”, only to have a quick revision at the end of the race!
    Some bannings and banishings in badminton of all things, fancy playing to lose so you get a good draw in the finals – sports strategy vs olympic ideals coming under the microscope.

  128. JAWS permalink
    August 2, 2012 11:10 am

    “Running off at the mouth ahead of the fact makes OZ olympians look like cocky, egomaniacal dickheads.”

    The frightening thing is TJ is that I’m starting to believe you.

    This “i” Generation of Olympians with their constant tweeting and facebooking is getting on my nerves as well. What with all the blubbering and sobbing over silver medals we have seen so far it’s starting to really piss me off.

    What is it with Stephanie Rice and her “retirement” announcement. Is she expecting a group hug from all of us ?

    And the Missile with his “Aint I hot” demeanor rather than just shut the f**k up and get on with it.

    The swimming teams seems like just a bunch of wankers and wankeresses.

    Having said that have you seen how hot our women’s water polo team are ?

    Try and compare our iGeneration swimming team to the rather humble Cadel Evans and you just gotta cringe.

  129. August 2, 2012 11:15 am

    I liked the girl in rowing this morning….

    “Look, I’m disappointed but I did the best I could on the day and that’s all you can do”

  130. August 2, 2012 11:16 am

    My heart went out to Nick D’Arcy…

  131. August 2, 2012 11:25 am

    “Look, I’m disappointed but I did the best I could on the day and that’s all you can do”

    Seems like an appropriate response, to me.

    Didn’t boohoo-Cadel wimp out of his olympic commitments because diddums was too tired? Will he be giving me a tax refund?

    A meagre defense of the i-generation olympiatards…they’ve been pumped up by a decade of flagsturbating patriotic Oz media sycophancy since the sickening wankfest that was Sydney 2000. Perhaps they started believing their own arrogant press?
    How amusement that that same press now tears them down when they achieve anything less than perfection!
    Anyone would think that they are competing against the rest of the world & Australians aren’t actually some kind of super race of athletic megastars! 😯

    Humble pies all round.

    Too much self promotion smacks of Americana infecting Australiana.

  132. August 2, 2012 11:29 am

    “My heart went out to Nick D’Arcy…”

    😆

    Hype & Money killed any noble aspects of the Olympic tradition stone dead a long, long time ago.
    All that’s left is like an arms race between the nations stupid enough to overspend-spend-spend on their athletes rather than their populace.

  133. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 2, 2012 11:46 am

    What with all the blubbering and sobbing over silver medals we have seen so far it’s starting to really piss me off.

    I was pissed off with the first one.

    Anyone would think that they are competing against the rest of the world & Australians aren’t actually some kind of super race of athletic megastars!

    But don’t we “punch above our weight” in everything”? the super race from a small population. Every Australian is a super athlete.

    Oh yes jaws, blame it on the current generation, who is behind them? Who supports them? Who manages, coaches and picks them?

    The older generation does.

  134. August 2, 2012 11:52 am

    We set em up to fail.

    They believe everything they see & read.

    More fool them. But yeah, this rot didn’t start with this generation.

  135. JAWS permalink
    August 2, 2012 12:06 pm

    “Oh yes jaws, blame it on the current generation, who is behind them?”

    “We set em up to fail.”

    They are spoiled brats who should have been given a few good whacks when they were younger. Now no parent dares.

    No wonder they run amok in Kings Cross. The parents could never apply proper discipline.

    No wonder 11 and 12 year olds go out in defiance of their parents anytime they choose. Years ago they’d get a good old shellacking and be locked in their room.

    The do gooders have fucked up entire generations

    Bring back corporal punishment…………..!

  136. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 2, 2012 12:14 pm

    Oh noes, jaws and the ‘make them do a stint in the army’ fix for generational conflict 😆

  137. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 2, 2012 12:23 pm

    The do gooders have fucked up entire generations

    BS, you just hear about events more with today’s modern media, the jackboots can’t control the public quite like they did in the past. Things aren’t swept under the carpet and hidden from the public like they were in your day [catholic church and sex abuse, defence and sex abuse, horrific domestic violence, ‘boys just being boys’, official corruption].

  138. JAWS permalink
    August 2, 2012 5:42 pm

    HUGE…………..HUGE………………HUGE meeting of the European Central Bank tonight.

    Its Put Up…………..or shut the Fuck Up Time.

    We will all awake tomorrow to se our Supoerfunds about to be plundered on the ASX or scheduled to do reasonably well…………………………….until next crisis…………….next week

    DOW JONES 4:20PM

    SYDNEY–The Australian share market rose slightly in mixed trading before the European Central Bank meeting later Thursday, with resources outperforming at the expense of defensive stocks and banks.

    Overnight, the S&P 500 fell 0.3% as the Federal Reserve downgraded its economic assessment yet failed to take any further action. However, traders said the ECB meeting was the main event this week, given the high expectations built up by European officials in the past week.

    “We’ve heard all the talk from European officials, but the cynics are waiting to see what real policy action transpires,” said Macquarie Private Wealth division director Martin Lakos.
    “Expectations center on the ECB committing to buying Spanish and Italian debt in the primary market and an agreement to use the ESM (European Stability Mechanism) to support those bonds in the secondary market. We’ve seen fairly significant adjustments in funding costs and Spanish bond rates have fallen. Markets are adjusting, but they need intervention to support that,” he said.

    Credit Suisse strategists neutralized their long-held ‘Underweight-resources’ and ‘Overweight-banks’ view this week, sensing a return in risk appetite as U.S. and European central bankers attempted to shift the policy agenda to fiscal policy to support growth.

    Deutsche Bank strategists said Australia’s S&P/ASX 200 rally may be hard to sustain unless cyclicals gained traction. They argued that defensives had limited ability to lift the market, given their price to earnings ratio was near a four-year high of 14 times. Bank valuations remained reasonable, with their aggregate PE ratio at 11 times, the strategists said, “but if the market is to continue its recent momentum, cyclicals have to contribute.”

    “Until the hard data starts to turn, it is difficult to see investor appetite for resources rising much,” they said. “The risk to this view is a substantive policy response from Europe/U.S./China in the next few weeks.”

    Could be time to bail out of Telstra I’d say

  139. Tony permalink
    August 2, 2012 5:46 pm

    Jaws, I was just talking to a stock broker who tells me their business is suffering badly. People are just standing out of the market and volumes are way down. So much so he wonders how some brokers are still managing to open their doors.

  140. August 2, 2012 5:46 pm

    “Could be time to bail out of Telstra I’d say”

    Weren’t you just spruiking Telstra yesterday…….???!!!

    Typical fkn finance expert…. 🙄

  141. August 2, 2012 5:47 pm

    Yep, I’ve heard the same thing Tony.

  142. JAWS permalink
    August 2, 2012 6:08 pm

    “…..Weren’t you just spruiking Telstra yesterday…….???!!!…”

    Yep

    But after seing the Commodities take off today and yesterday I think there will be a bit of movement out of Telstra into less defensives.

    Unless the ECB fails to deliver ……………………………..again

    And yes as far as brokers are concerned there is no volume

  143. JAWS permalink
    August 2, 2012 6:16 pm

    Mrs Jaws was saying while she was picking up a few things from Dan Murphys this afternoon and a woman was chatting to the cashier whilst she was in the queque telling the cashier she took her 7 year old and 5 year old down to Newport Beach yesterday to watch the dead whale and was hoping to get down there today with them when the chainsaw gangs were going to go to work on it.

    Is there something wrong with me or is that just fucking weird ?

    I’d say it almost borders on child abuse. Imagine the friggin’ nightmares ………………?

  144. el gordo permalink
    August 2, 2012 6:25 pm

    “but if the market is to continue its recent momentum, cyclicals have to contribute.”

    What are these ‘cyclicals’ they talk of?

    Out in the bush the recession has already hit, takings seriously down around the town, in every nook and cranny. It doesn’t look good on the ground.

    My business partner thinks we should restructure.

  145. JAWS permalink
    August 2, 2012 6:48 pm

    “What are these ‘cyclicals’ they talk of?”

    Any company that has anything to do with iron ore (BHP/Rio/FMG*/Atlas Iron**), coal (BHP), copper (BHP, Oz Minerals), Aluminium, Bauxite, Alumina (Rio,AWC), Zinc etc, Gas (Woodside, SANTOS, Origin) and sundry other metals like rare earths (Lynas and Arafura) or mineral sands (Iluka)

    Basically Companies that follow the Business Cycle up and down…………….hence cyclical.

    Defensives are your WOW (Woolworths) and Telstra and Health companies like Cochlear and Resmed etc. Things that no matter what people find hard to do without. They usually provide a nice dividend but are not (usually) as voltatile. Just not sexy in boom times

    Coles and Bunning are owned by Wesfarmers (WES) who also own coal mines so they are a bit of both.

    DJs and Myer, Harvey Norman are classed more as consumer discretionary so also move with general public sentiment to spending.

    * Personally would not touch Fortescue with a barge pole and Atlas has alot of Capex to do

  146. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2012 6:56 pm

    I’d say it almost borders on child abuse. Imagine the friggin’ nightmares

    Absolutely! Wally …

    My business partner thinks we should restructure.

    Solar panels are … oh wait … what about cattle farm … oh wait … retail … oh wait …

    ONLINE! egg … you could become “Egg Online” and flog interstellar souvenirs .. we do a range of planetary disaster dolls … give me a call! :mrgreen:

    You humans … everything’s so hard. :mrgreen:

  147. el gordo permalink
    August 2, 2012 7:16 pm

    Thanx Jaws.

  148. el gordo permalink
    August 2, 2012 7:17 pm

    TB smells.

    LOL

  149. August 2, 2012 7:20 pm

    The thing that’s always puzzled me about the finance “experts” is that they always say that “past performance should not be taken as an indicator of future expectations,” yet in the next breath they’ll say “the market will recover because it always has historically..”

    Hypocrisy much…?

  150. August 2, 2012 7:21 pm

    (typically when they’re trying to convince you to stick with their poorly performing investment recommendations)…

  151. el gordo permalink
    August 2, 2012 7:22 pm

    It has been a great year for the men and women on the land, its just the townies feeling the pinch.

  152. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2012 7:23 pm

    TB smells.

    I, FKN SMELL!!!

    toiletstenchofdunlophatredpartoftheHATEapparatus

    I’m a Queenslander not a fkn Mexican!

    We shower once a day at least (I showered TWICE today and its colder’n fkn Melbourne!) 🙄

    I’m looking forward to hearing the review of Canberra, from my 14 yo grandson, (No 3), after he visits next week! The most articulate of my Fabulous Five! 😆

  153. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2012 7:29 pm

    It has been a great year for the men and women on the land

    It certainly has, egg … floods, price gouging by Woolies and Coles, lost revenue to cattle farmers in Indonesia, the list goes on … where do you get your info from?

    And what about Townies … my experience in the country (and I spent a lot as a Service Engineer and Service Manager for 36 Nissan Dealerships and later as a training consultant … lotsa driving and country motels, clubs and restaurants …) … was Townies prosper when the Farmers do … town businesses and farming have a symbiotic relationship … can’t have one successful without ‘tother … doesn’t make sense …

  154. August 2, 2012 7:39 pm

    Things aren’t great in this rural town.

    They stand to be a lot worse when/if the big Mill just outside of town closes; it employs nearly a third of the region’s workforce, directly & indirectly. Everyone is crossing their fingers that the new co-gen plant will give it a competitive advantage.
    Woolies & Coles & their duopoly are a major contributing factor.

  155. August 2, 2012 7:42 pm

    I shower twice a day.

    Can’t speak for the Victorians though. Well known for standing on their toilet seats.

    http://thistoiletearth.wordpress.com/2012/05/11/melbournian-filth-3/

  156. Soap Dodger permalink
    August 2, 2012 7:46 pm

    Pissing into the wind is not showering.

  157. August 2, 2012 8:01 pm

    Says the Victorian.

  158. el gordo permalink
    August 2, 2012 8:10 pm

    TB everything appears to have changed, the farmers and graziers buy on line. Retail is floundering and accommodation is dead in the water, but less than an hour up the road the story is completely opposite. It’s the mine.

    Its been an abundant year on the land because the rains have returned, what they refer to out here as ‘a good season’.

  159. M Dellavedova permalink
    August 2, 2012 8:43 pm

    Go the fkn Boomers. OI!

  160. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2012 8:45 pm

    Can’t speak for the Victorians though. Well known for standing on their toilet seats

    Do they HAVE toilets in Victoria … I though there was only one … in SA! 😉

    Pissing into the wind is not showering. That explains a lot of your posts, Soap Dodger … 😆

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Its been an abundant year on the land because the rains have returned, what they refer to out here as ‘a good season’.

    Er, egg, c’mon, it takes at least a half year to take advantage of a “good year” … as for “buying on line” … farmers don’t generally buy the stuff we do … after the drought breaks and after massive floods … not the stuff generally cheaper “online” and there is a very strong “support for local” in most country towns I’v been in … as I said earlier the relationship is “symbiotic” … just where do you live?

  161. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2012 8:47 pm

    Go the fkn Boomers. OI!

    Why thank you, ToSY … 🙂

  162. el gordo permalink
    August 2, 2012 8:53 pm

    You might be right TB, its probably just a blip and this is confirmation…

    ‘LOWER interest rate and federal government handouts are drawing Australians back to department stores in droves, as retails sales beat economist expectations and grow for the third month in a row.

    ‘Seasonally adjusted retail sales surged 1 per cent in June to $21.58 billion…’

    I didn’t get any government handout, how about the rest of you?

  163. el gordo permalink
    August 2, 2012 9:03 pm

    While we are on the subject….

    ‘Internet support for struggling farmers went viral last weekend after a scathing letter to Coles appeared on the company’s Facebook page written by Jane Burney, whose husband’s family milks 300 cows on the NSW Mid North Coast.

    ‘More than 73,400 Facebook page readers logged their “like” support for Ms Burney and another 4500 comments were posted about Coles milk discounting policy and its attitudes to farmers.

    ‘Caught out by the flood of rebukes, Coles eventually blocked the website comments and claimed Ms Burney’s heartfelt spur-of-the-moment letter was part of an orchestrated activist organisation’s campaign, timed to strike at the weekend when supermarket management were out of the office.’

    Andrew Marshall in The Land

  164. TB Queensland permalink
    August 2, 2012 9:41 pm

    I didn’t get any government handout, how about the rest of you?

    Not in 50+ years from any government … they’ve taken a lot though … 😦

  165. August 2, 2012 9:52 pm

    I didn’t get a skerrick. Don’t feel entitled to or expect one either.

  166. Cheers Quad permalink
    August 2, 2012 9:55 pm

    It’s good to hear some creative cheering at the Australia vs China basketball game.

    “Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Oi! Oi! Oi!”

    It brings a tear to the eye.

  167. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 2, 2012 9:57 pm

    AUSSIES!! OI!OI!OI!

    Beat the Commies.

  168. Already Gone permalink
    August 2, 2012 9:58 pm

    Also this one:

    “Let’s go Aussie, let’s go! Let’s go Aussie, let’s go.”

    Hilarious.

  169. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 2, 2012 10:13 pm

    The love of field and coppice 

    Of green and shaded lanes, 

    Of ordered woods and gardens 

    Is running in your veins. 

    Strong love of grey-blue distance, 

    Brown streams and soft, dim skies 

    I know, but cannot share it, 

    My love is otherwise. 


    I love a sunburnt country, 

    A land of sweeping plains, 

    Of ragged mountain ranges, 

    Of droughts and flooding rains. 

    I love her far horizons, 

    I love her jewel-sea, 

    Her beauty and her terror 

    The wide brown land for me! 


    The stark white ring-barked forests, 

    All tragic to the moon, 

    The sapphire-misted mountains, 

    The hot gold hush of noon, 

    Green tangle of the brushes 

    Where lithe lianas coil, 

    And orchids deck the tree-tops, 

    And ferns the warm dark soil. 


    Core of my heart, my country! 

    Her pitiless blue sky, 

    When, sick at heart, around us 

    We see the cattle die 

    But then the grey clouds gather, 

    And we can bless again 

    The drumming of an army, 

    The steady soaking rain. 


    Core of my heart, my country! 

    Land of the rainbow gold, 

    For flood and fire and famine 

    She pays us back threefold. 

    Over the thirsty paddocks, 

    Watch, after many days, 

    The filmy veil of greenness 

    That thickens as we gaze … 


    An opal-hearted country, 

    A wilful, lavish land 

    All you who have not loved her, 

    You will not understand 

    though Earth holds many splendours, 

    Wherever I may die, 

    I know to what brown country 

    My homing thoughts will fly.

    That’s all very well Mrs Dorothea Mackeller, but where is the

    AUSSIE, AUSSIE, AUSSIE

    OI!OI!OI!!!!

    …and there is nothing about unwelcome people on boats.

  170. JAWS permalink
    August 2, 2012 10:16 pm

    “My business partner thinks we should restructure.”

    I agree. But it’s not just you it’s your whole friggin township. If you have a busy highway nearby there is no excuse. You need a theme of good food and gift shops ( think Berry on the south coast eg)

    If you guys have the pedestrian traffic ( the highway) then only the signage and the message is holding you back.

    But it’s a community thing

  171. JAWS permalink
    August 2, 2012 10:24 pm

    Sorry of that sounded condescending eg it was not supposed to.

    But the prob is not just your business. If its the whole town then you all need to get together and evaluate what you can be really good at with what you have.

    Get the mayor to get the town thinking then call a meeting.

    Get some energy going. Signage signage signage and signage .

    Get a decent whorehouse going if you have to

  172. el gordo permalink
    August 2, 2012 10:58 pm

    We are a big town with a university and we have an art trail. All we want is a real bullet train, a Simens built Maglev like they built for the Chinese….Barry O is our only hope.

  173. el gordo permalink
    August 2, 2012 11:01 pm

    ‘Signage signage signage and signage’

    Ah… no. we are all on the interwebys and don’t do signage.

    By restructuring we mean take miners full time and forget the rest of humanity.

  174. JAWS permalink
    August 2, 2012 11:24 pm

    ECB kicks can down the road……. Again

    Watching live stream of dragi . Lots of words no detail.

    Fuckwitz !

    Hold on to Telstra

  175. JAWS permalink
    August 2, 2012 11:27 pm

    Ya know most coffee and wine cellars in the hunter sell art as a very serious sideline.

    What about the whorehouse ……… LOL

  176. el gordo permalink
    August 3, 2012 7:51 am

    ‘What about the whorehouse ……’

    Yeah, worked well last time (just the one worker) filthy lucra fell on the floor which I kept aside for a rainy day. Sadly my business partner snaffled it and went on a Bali holiday.

    The pimp has been hassling to return, but as he’s got her on smack I’ll let it pass.

  177. August 3, 2012 8:07 am

    ” If you have a busy highway nearby there is no excuse. You need a theme of good food and gift shops ( think Berry on the south coast eg)”

    That’s all very well in theory, but what you end up with is a township that’s overcrowded with tourists in the weekend and dead during the week, like Leura in the Blue Mountains…

    Better to open up a few hyper fast food chains like Burger King, KFC, and Red Rooster and go for the burgeoning bogan obesity market.

    And then vertical integration with a couple of lyposuction and lap band clinics, a diabetes centre, and a shop selling those little mobility scooters (and a Lowes of course).

  178. el gordo permalink
    August 3, 2012 8:21 am

    We have all that in abundance, Reb. When visitors come here they are shocked by the obesity epidemic. Of interest, a pub on my block has just sold its license (leaving the building an empty shell) which we are hoping will become a medical centre.

    Of course the answer to the problem of financial inactivity is to pump more people into the area and it was only six months ago when the NSW Tourism Minister told us we should put up a big sign on the highway coming into town (in Mandarin) welcoming our comrades to a veritable wasteland.

    We ignored his enthusiastic advice and they failed to come…now the conservatives are putting in the boot.

    ‘This week Mr Abbott said the public lacked confidence in Australia’s foreign investment rules, especially on agriculture. ”It is virtually open slather on agricultural land and we do need tougher scrutiny,” he said.

    ‘The former Liberal foreign affairs minister, Alexander Downer, who now has Chinese business interests, criticised the Nationals senator Barnaby Joyce yesterday for his campaign against Chinese investment.

    ”We’ll … become increasingly introverted, we’ll become increasingly isolated. It will not just affect our [gross domestic product] but jobs, and will affect the intellectual strength and vigour of the country,” he told Sky News.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-to-toughen-up-foreign-investment-rules-20120802-23ihp.html#ixzz22QfdOEix

  179. JAWS permalink
    August 3, 2012 8:38 am

    “….When visitors come here they are shocked by the obesity epidemic. Of interest, a pub on my block has just sold its license (leaving the building an empty shell) which we are hoping will become a medical centre.”

    Sounds like you need a Jenny Craig outlet with a Greasy Joe’s Hamburger Joint accross the road

  180. August 3, 2012 8:44 am

    Much amusement… I’ve been banned from Min’s new blog…

    Despite this opening promise…

    I believe very strongly in this principal, hence my desire to have a blog where everyone may speak their opinion free from harassment and intimidation or threats of banning, or threats of being blocked. However, I will add that although I will never delete a person’s comment, that if I consider that something is offensive and demeaning, that I will not hesitate but to edit that comment.

    I will always advise the person of my reason for this decision, and I believe that this is the just thing to do.

    Well that was short lived….

  181. el gordo permalink
    August 3, 2012 8:48 am

    ‘with a Greasy Joe’s Hamburger Joint across the road’

    We already have to Maccas and a KFC.

  182. Tony permalink
    August 3, 2012 9:11 am

    ‘ I’ve been banned from Min’s new blog’

    You, sir, might have been pointing out some inconvenient truths are a troll.

  183. JAWS permalink
    August 3, 2012 9:23 am

    El Gordo

    Open a health farm

  184. TB Queensland permalink
    August 3, 2012 9:31 am

    Much amusement… I’ve been banned from Min’s new blog…

    Shakes head as sighing … and has a look …

    ========================

    Returns from, Min’s, new blog … shakes head and thinks … “maybe I am getting to old for this shit?

    (I didn’t know Roswell was Miggles!!?) Explains why it turned up after mention of, The Mothership ….

    You humans … :mrgreen:

  185. TB Queensland permalink
    August 3, 2012 9:50 am

    Open a health farm …

    As in “nudist”! 😯

    I just imagine …

  186. JAWS permalink
    August 3, 2012 9:51 am

    “Battered Wife Syndrome” or “Stockholme Syndrome”…………….whatever it is Min must be the weakest woman on the planet.

    Very amusing the number of times she has dropped in here of late whereupon most welcome her but when she returns home to a good old bashing no doubt she lets herself get pulled into line.

    The Koolaid works a treat.

    Must a good recipe

  187. JAWS permalink
    August 3, 2012 9:53 am

    “As in “nudist”! ”

    Actually thats a bloody good idea……………………………….but not too popular on the frost covered plains west of Sydney this time of year.

  188. August 3, 2012 9:56 am

    You know one thing I fkn hate is sock puppets. It really is insulting.

  189. August 3, 2012 10:26 am

    Are we all soooo proud of our Olympic failures? Boohoo, I came last in my poxy boat race so I’m gonna go out & smash a couple of windows in the host nation.

    Thinks he’s on a Contiki Tour?

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/london-olympics/australian-olympic-rower-josh-booth-fainted-in-police-custody/story-fn9dhvy9-1226441861116

  190. August 3, 2012 10:28 am

    Sock Puppets are ace. 😯

    Well I’ll be…is Roswell really miglo? or are we speculating? It does kinda make sense, what with the UFO fetish & all.

  191. el gordo permalink
    August 3, 2012 10:32 am

    I think Roswell is different, even though he sounds the same…that’s the power of groupthink.

  192. JAWS permalink
    August 3, 2012 10:35 am

    “…is Roswell really miglo?”

    Yes it is hilarious when you consider the avatar he uses are the stars of the X Files which had a slogan of “The Truth is Out There” .

    He should use Jack Nicholson uttering “You cant handle the truth”

    What a fucking hypocrit the chief censor has proved to be !

  193. August 3, 2012 10:43 am

    A man wakes up at Cape Hawke Hospital bandaged from head to foot.

    The doctor comes in and says, “Ah, I see you’ve regained consciousness. Now
    you probably won’t remember, but you were in a huge pile-up on the Warrego
    Highway. You’re going to be ok, you’ll walk again and everything, but your
    p***s was severed in the accident and we couldn’t find it.”

    The man groans, but the doctor goes on, “You have $9000 in insurance
    compensation coming and we now have the technology to build a new p***s.
    They work great but they don’t come cheap. It’s roughly $1000 an inch.”
    The man perks up.

    “So,” the doctor says, “You must decide how many inches you want. But I
    understand that you have been married for over thirty years and this is
    something you should discuss with your wife. If you had a five incher before
    and get a nine incher now she might be a bit put out. If you had a nine
    incher before and you decide to only invest in a five incher now, she might
    be disappointed. It’s important that she plays a role in helping you make a
    decision.”

    The man agrees to talk it over with his wife.

    The doctor comes back the next day, “So, have you spoken with your wife?”

    “Yes I have,” says the man.

    “And has she helped you make a decision?”

    “Yes” says the man.

    “What is your decision?” asks the doctor.

    “We’re getting granite bench tops.”

  194. August 3, 2012 10:48 am

    On reflection, I don’t think Roswell is miglo. However, Roswell is one of those cowardly types with plenty to say with their head ducked below the ramparts.

  195. August 3, 2012 10:50 am

    I love how the Olympics are going. Not much chestbeating from the flagsturbators nowadays.

  196. JAWS permalink
    August 3, 2012 10:50 am

    Very amusing Sancty…………………

    Anyone out there got Facebook shares………………………?

    Apparently there’s a rumour that upto 80 million of its users are four legged or duplications.

    Now who would have thought that ?

    DOW JONES

    02/08/2012 06:57AM AEST

    Another day, another all-time low for Facebook’s share price.

    The shares lost 83 cents, or 3.8 per cent, to close Wednesday at $US20.88.

    That is 45 per cent below its initial public offering price of $US38.

    Shares briefly hit $US20.84 during the day.

    The previous low was $US21.61, reached on Tuesday.

    The stock has been falling since Facebook released quarterly earnings last Thursday for the first time as a public company.

    Investors were disappointed despite second-quarter results meeting Wall Street expectations, with revenue one-third higher than last year.

    Facebook began trading publicly in mid-May following one of the most anticipated stock offerings in history.

    But since then, investors have been concerned about its ability to keep increasing revenue

  197. August 3, 2012 10:53 am

    “But since then, investors have been concerned about its ability to keep increasing revenue”

    Presumably the bulk of its revenue comes from business advertising.

    Apparently it’s not all that effective as an advertising medium.

  198. August 3, 2012 11:01 am

    An interesting essay from Talcum here on the rise of China, and how the US will cope with it…

    http://www.themonthly.com.au/hugh-white-s-china-choice-power-shift-malcolm-turnbull-5847

  199. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 3, 2012 11:58 am

    Let me say, THAT’S NOT LULU OR FIFI!

    As if either would engage in such a public display…

    …for free.

  200. August 3, 2012 12:15 pm

    …..and with a full set of teeth…

  201. el gordo permalink
    August 3, 2012 12:49 pm

    ‘…we should not imagine that if and when democracy comes to China it will result in an even more peaceful China.’

    Talcum is on safe grounds, the political precautionary principle. Commercial interests and balance of trade should eliminate any petty antagonisms which created wars only a hundred years ago.

  202. JAWS permalink
    August 3, 2012 12:52 pm

    The review of the Fair Work Act was really surprising. I mean who would have thought that a government enquiry into productivity would have said that Julia Gillard’s Act has got it basically absolutely correct with just a few minor tweaks required.

    I sure didn’t see that coming …………………….Nah not at all.

  203. August 3, 2012 1:22 pm

    PIEGATE!

  204. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 3, 2012 2:07 pm

    The review of the Fair Work Act was really surprising. I mean who would have thought that a government enquiry into productivity would have said that Julia Gillard’s Act has got it basically absolutely correct with just a few minor tweaks required.

    Productivity is very over rated and a misnomer. We are a hardworking nation who deliver much unpaid overtime to industry.

    Productivity and one-sided flexibility arguments from industry should be called for what they are…a weakening of employee wages and conditions, workers doing more with less and no control over any aspect of their own employment [which happens to earn the huge profits for the company].

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4025724.html

    When it comes to workplace flexibility, people know there’s a difference between touching your toes and just bending over.

  205. JAWS permalink
    August 3, 2012 3:55 pm

    This sounds more realistic than the bullshit sprouted by the likes of Access Economics (Deloittes) or BIS Shrapnel

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/china-reaction-fire-ready-aim-20120803-23juy.html

  206. JAWS permalink
    August 3, 2012 4:17 pm

    And as predicted the Europeans “kick the can down the road” some more and all the “cyclicals” fall and up goes Telstra

  207. el gordo permalink
    August 3, 2012 4:37 pm

    Looking at the European betting odds…Germany may take its bat and ball and walk off the field.

    ‘There are also further ramifications in the ‘Next to leave the Euro’ betting as Germany’s odds are slashed to 16/1 from 33/1. Long term favourites Greece remain odds-on at 1/2 while the troubled Spaniards are next at 3/1.’

  208. JAWS permalink
    August 3, 2012 5:35 pm

    So Pie Eyed Bill Shorten walks into a Melbourne pie shop looking for the new Faceless Man Pie.

    Its Pastry is Hardened and Crusty from years of Union Warlord Infighting filled with Rich Chunks of Self Entitlement, Arrogance, Ego and Ambition, held together by a Special Gravy Train of Union Members Fees and topped with a Red Sauce of the Blood of a Deposed PM.

    Sounds Yum

  209. el gordo permalink
    August 3, 2012 6:53 pm

    Julia past won’t go away.

    ‘THE former union official and alleged bagman for a financial scandal linked to the then boyfriend of Julia Gillard wants to give evidence for the first time to police and prosecutors about his role and the conduct of others.

    ‘The Australian can reveal that Ralph Blewitt, a one-time branch head for the Australian Workers Union, is seeking immunity from criminal prosecution in return for breaking a 17-year silence and providing a statement to police.’

    Hedley Thomas in the Oz

  210. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 3, 2012 7:23 pm

    There is a view that the story is being promoted by sources close to the AWU. That’s interesting (speculation)

    I’m off for red and a meal!

  211. August 3, 2012 7:28 pm

    I’m having a red and cooking pasta! 🙂

  212. el gordo permalink
    August 3, 2012 8:44 pm

    The ‘mad monk’ continues to impress… good strategy by the Abbott camp.

    ‘Upon learning of the remarks, the book’s now attributed author Nikki Gemmell, said in a statement: “Regardless of your politics you’ve got to admire Tony Abbott for at least trying to understand the minds of women. If it encourages more men to read these books and understand what women really want, then I’m all for it”

    ‘She then challenged the Prime Minister to engage in the Mummy Porn debate.

    “Of course, the big question now is, has the Prime Minister read The Bride Stripped Bare or Fifty Shades of Grey?” Gemmell asked. “I’d be fascinated to know her take on all this.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/mummy-porn-gets-political-20120803-23kif.html#ixzz22TiYe2Zh

    And I take back what I said the other day about Abbott being a dickhead, when he gave that speech in China.

  213. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2012 12:02 am

    The Swan for PM push seems to be gaining some credibility. Then Shorten as a 2 term Opposition Leader.

    Swan leading the country, how humiliating.

  214. public toilet permalink
    August 4, 2012 12:08 am

    He is still a dickhead, and those books are woefully written pap. The snippets I’ve seen have been done better 35 years ago in such luminary publications as Penthouse Forum. Purple headed member indeed.

    The phenomenon says something about the general standard of literacy & underappreciation of literary merit in the contemporary world, imo.
    Harmless, insubstantial crap.

  215. public toilet permalink
    August 4, 2012 12:11 am

    I can’t wait to see the barnacles swap horses midstream & favour Swan like he’s always been Eastasia.

    The mental gymnastics required to pull that off with a straight face would be tranquilisingly impressive.

  216. public toilet permalink
    August 4, 2012 12:14 am

    Labor really are determined to spectacularly implode, aren’t they.

    The rout will be so severe that it’s beginning to get frightening.

  217. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2012 12:18 am

    The speculation is that the AWU is feeding some of the Wilson/Gillard reports, with an objective of getting Gillard to go willingly.

    It’s interesting speculation. But the notion that they’d choose Swan is bizarre. There’s just no way Swan would save any seats, there’d be no bounce, just a steeper decline.

  218. el gordo permalink
    August 4, 2012 7:22 am

    Mummy Porn may not be to our taste and everyone agrees the literary style of 50 shades is woeful, yet I stand firm in my belief that the Abbott camp is determined to reinvent their man just in case Labor finds a leader before the election.

  219. el gordo permalink
    August 4, 2012 7:26 am

    Swan will remain a dead duck if he doesn’t drop the fkn tax and that goes for the Ruddster too. Its a no brainer thinking they can go to the election with Julia’s brain child in their pack.

  220. el gordo permalink
    August 4, 2012 8:12 am

    Oz Editorial on the Wilson Affair…

    ‘While we have an open view on this matter and accept the Prime Minister’s denial of any knowledge of, or involvement in, this scandal, questions continue to linger about Mr Wilson and Slater & Gordon. It demands a new investigation by legal authorities.’

  221. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2012 9:37 am

    Is the reporting of Gillard’s close involvement in the AWU/Wilson fraud legitimate reporting? Or is it the stuff that the ‘blame the media’ brigade would wish to stop with their commitment to regulation/censorship?

    Gillard has already demonstrated that she is willing to (mis) use the authority of her office to try to suppress the story, so suppressing it with regulation is hardly in the public interest.

  222. August 4, 2012 9:53 am

    “Or is it the stuff that the ‘blame the media’ brigade would wish to stop with their commitment to regulation/censorship?”

    It does seem that the Gillard cheer squad has entered a new realm of silencing dissent.

    The lengths they’re prepared to go to to silence any criticism of ALP conduct is quite extraordinary.

  223. Tom R permalink
    August 4, 2012 9:57 am

    yomm makes stuff up again.

    First, she didn’t try to ‘suppress’ the story. She simply adviced that, if the oo were to keep the intitial story up in its present form, which had made unsubtantiated claims against her, feel free. Just beware, that she would test it in court.

    Obviously, the oo felt that the claims were wrong, else they could have left them there.

    It appears that they have learnt from the prevous indiscretion, and are content to just dog-whistle at the claims instead. Is this reporting? well, in a ‘New Idea’ sort of way, I guess.

    Perhaps you can point to the legislation in question?

  224. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2012 10:23 am

    It’s interesting that Gillard used the authority of her office to seek to suppress guide reporting of a story she didn’t like.

    Tom R, there is so much you and others have vociferously railed against as “baseless speculation”, which has then proven to be accurate reporting of real facts. The “blame the media” brigade have used the accusations of this “baseless speculation” as justification for their calls for tighter regulation of the print media.
    ———————
    …and just in case my comment at Min’s doesn’t get out of “moderation”-

    I have to say that the new rules (regarding bannings at Café Whispers) are funny.

    Finally, you’ve simply owned up that you target individuals, rather than what they say. Good for you!
    ————
    I’ve no idea what you’re on about Tom R. You use a link to suggest I was verballing Wicks, and I used the same link (and quotes directly from it), to demonstrate I wasn’t.

    Otherwise, I think you’re “verballing” me.

  225. August 4, 2012 10:26 am

    “Finally, you’ve simply owned up that you target individuals, rather than what they say.”

    Precisely. Despite what they say to the contrary.

  226. Tom R permalink
    August 4, 2012 10:32 am

    You used one small section of what was said, you took it out of context, and applied your own. You then had the gall to say you should stop quoting the point he retreated to, and look at his original bulls**t .

    It was his original. You just cherry picked it

  227. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2012 10:42 am

    No, he entirely misrepresented “sharing an office”.

    He used his own experience as a small time salesman to illustrate how “offices are shared” and how colleagues who “share an office” mingle.

    He either did this through his ignorance of the actual structure of FWA, or because he chose to misrepresent the office.

    So just tell me, which office in this building is it that Lawler and Nassios “share”?

  228. Tom R permalink
    August 4, 2012 10:49 am

    He used his own experience as a small time salesman to illustrate how

    Yes, he “illustrated: what he meant, and you chose to ignore that, and apply your own experience to it instead. He clarified his remarks, as he made them, and you have since chosen to misrepresent them.

  229. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2012 11:04 am

    How about you just explain how anyone could describe working in that 12 story building as “sharing an office”, and how a Vice President of FWA is likely to share a kitchen while making a cup of tea for himself, and then socialise, and then exchange favours… for someone in an entirely different function, on a different floor, etc? And then how about you explain this in the context of Wicks not having any evidence that they’ve ever met.

    And once you’ve explained that how about you explain the point that Wicks simply avoids… that Tim Lee (former union official, former ALP ministrial advisor, ALP appointee as General Manager of FWA and the man FWA investigator Nassios reported to) , supervised the report. But it was Lawler that was so able to influence it?

    Once you’ve explained how Wicks has managed to avoid all that, and I’ve verballed hi, I’ll have a few other holes to point out in his bullsh*t.

  230. Tom R permalink
    August 4, 2012 11:10 am

    How about you just explain how anyone could describe working in that 12 story building as “sharing an office”

    His original coments do that

    And so we enter the circle jerk

  231. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2012 11:53 am

    Fine, you’ve managed to point out that we have a difference of opinion about “sharing an office”, in this building…

    How about you now take that single point and address it in the context of all the other inadequacies I’ve pointed to in his running smear, and address them.

    Wicks tried to compare the building above, and the shared kitchen facilities and social interaction and favour exchange network available in his suburban vacuum cleaner sales office.

  232. el gordo permalink
    August 4, 2012 12:24 pm

    ‘…but I cannot put them up for legal reasons.’

    Andrew Bolt apologising for not having a mod on hand…Sancty would be perfect for the job.

  233. el gordo permalink
    August 4, 2012 12:29 pm

    Here’s a bit more on the Bolter….

    http://afr.com/p/national/the_sure_footed_mr_bolt_0QIMGk4DGJ5o3yr79Ui0CL

  234. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 4, 2012 12:52 pm

    And so we enter the circle jerk

    yes, round & round the molehill go the jerks, where’s that mountain again?

    How about you just explain how anyone could describe working in that 12 story building as “sharing an office”

    Who cares who works where? The interference has been throughout the investigative process. Bias of investigation, a pre-determined outcome. Jackson & Lawler’s collaborations in their ‘access & sharing’ of evidence. Allowing one of those under investigation to personally sift through and deliver the evidence she wants admitted [conveniently suppressing her own]. The lack of investigation of Jackson herself.
    The influence in the use of high office and privilege to carry out a personal agenda on behalf of your partner.
    Someone [from the union] who was told that their letter of complaint went to Lawler but this was never acknowledged or admitted into any evidence. Lawler’s ‘private vs professional’ capacity to influence police and direct/gain outcomes he desires.

    Both Nassios and Lawler on long leave to avoid scrutiny. Jackson phoning Eric Abetz while Abetz is in the senate asking questions [didn’t an Ombudsman have to resign recently for similar stuff?]

    Pretty much seems that jackson & lawler have run this stitch-up from the beginning, for their own personal/political ambitions. Lawler should have taken his long leave during the investigation to avoid accusations of conflict of interest, not after it.

    I agree that the way that this ‘investigation’ has been performed places into doubt other investigations and outcomes by FWA.

    I still think it’s another Grech, the Libs determination in gaining a new election has been behind this and Lawler has been doing Abbott’s dirty work. Abbott will stop at nothing to get what he wants. This is typical illegal, dirty, grubby, Liberal Party shenanigans, they are the ‘dirty cops’ of politics, planting the evidence for their own ‘expose’ by their friendly media megaphones. I even wonder about another link between the two – Eric Abetz. Did Abetz orchestrate the downfall of Turnbull? We know that the tea party cons, hated Turnbull as leader. No-one is prepared to be as lowdown and dirty as the Libs, the born-to-rule cannot abide not running the show.

    Not that I think the union didn’t need to have the spotlight shone on them, I do, but the investigation should have been transparent, fair and unbiased, with no conflicts of interest on the part of any within FWA.

  235. Tom R permalink
    August 4, 2012 1:07 pm

    Wicks tried to compare the building above, and the shared kitchen facilities and social interaction and favour exchange network available in his suburban vacuum cleaner sales office.

    And was upfront about that association. Something you have never been in this discussion (circle jerk)

  236. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 4, 2012 1:19 pm

    Gillard has already demonstrated that she is willing to (mis) use the authority of her office to try to suppress the story, so suppressing it with regulation is hardly in the public interest.

    No, she has said that they had better be accurate and truthful or they will be sued for libel. She is no longer prepared to accept a politically motivated, ‘manufactured scandal’ by a campaigning media.

    Returns from, Min’s, new blog … shakes head and thinks … “maybe I am getting to old for this shit?

    What is the name of it and where is this new blog TB? link please.

    He is still a dickhead, and those books are woefully written pap.

    Agree with that. Abbott is unashamedly Mr Everyman, trying to appeal to everyone and anyone.These ‘press conferences’ are just election campaigning. Abbott knows he doesn’t go over well with women [and it seems, the females love Turnbull!]. Abbott is under just as much pressure as Gillard because his personal rating is so low, I am expecting a challenge from Turnbull pre election.

    Now we’ve got added ‘thought bubbles’ eg the foreign investment ‘just putting it out ther’ of course it’s an appeal to the xenophobes, but hey, no real commitment to an actual policy or anything, just a dog whistle. The same party that criticises any policy inquiries or public committees from Labor, just stick a thought bubble out there and wait for the next poll!

  237. August 4, 2012 3:00 pm

    Good grief, Miglo is going on and on and on and on about Tom and “his mate” ( presumably that’s me) even though we’re no longer allowed to comment there.

    He now claims to be speaking on behalf of the entire blgosphere!

    Delusional.

  238. August 4, 2012 3:01 pm

    Kittylitter, here is the link to Min’s blog…

    http://returntoblogocracy.wordpress.com

  239. August 4, 2012 3:09 pm

    Gee, weren’t we just talking about this the other day….

    THE UNITED STATES has warned China to “back off” as tensions rise to flashpoint in the South China Sea.
    http://www.news.com.au/world/us-warns-china-over-moves-to-dominate-south-china-sea/story-fndir2ev-1226442785802

  240. el gordo permalink
    August 4, 2012 3:56 pm

    Peace in our time, now that the Chinese have discovered the wonders of red wine.

    http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2012-08/04/content_15644152.htm

  241. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2012 4:01 pm

    There is no greater insult in the blogosphere than being called “Tom’s mate”!
    ————–
    Just in case Min doesn’t feel like releasing my comment, I’ve replied to Miglo-

    I have no idea why Miglo would wish to continue to prove he ahs a faulty memory. or whatever.

    Background to my banning by Miglo in November.

    I had a n exchange with Pip or Sue, who had reflected on Alan Joyce’s sexuality during the Qantas dispute. They took a cheap shot, and I pulled them up on it. This lead to the typical series of exchanges that characterise the experience of a growing number (Min & Shane for example).

    I argued that making Joyce’s sexuality an issue was homophobic,.

    I was banned by Miglo because this demonstrated that I hated women, I probably wasn’t getting any, and this was why I hated women, and I was bullying women, and this proved I hated women.

    I’ll let Milgo trawl through the relevant threads to find this proof.

  242. el gordo permalink
    August 4, 2012 6:08 pm

    Taswegia plans to develop a niche tourism market.

    ‘Tasmania may become the first Australian state to legalise gay marriage – possibly as early as this year – after Premier Lara Giddings today vowed Labor would legislate it in this term of government.

    ‘The proposed laws would also be drafted to allow gay couples from across the country to get married in Tasmania – with Ms Giddings arguing that would help generate an economic boost and more jobs for the state.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/end-of-the-rainbow-legislation-loop-hole-may-allow-gay-marriage-20120804-23m6n.html#ixzz22YwV6HE9

  243. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2012 10:24 pm

    AO – The influence in the use of high office and privilege to carry out a personal agenda on behalf of your partner. and various other comments…

    That’s an interesting series of assertions. But-
    • There is no evidence that Lawler has interfered in the Thomson investigation.
    • Lawler was required to notify the police of alleged illegal activity under his oath of office as an officer of the law.
    • Thomson has 180 findings against him, and so far he’s addressed the AEC one, only 1979 to go.
    • Jackson may be part of the union rorting and dodgy deals club; she has probably inherited the habit from her predecessors, such as Thomson.
    • Thomson remains a legitimately tainted figure in parliament and therefore taints the government.

  244. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 5, 2012 12:27 am

    Lawler was required to notify the police of alleged illegal activity under his oath of office as an officer of the law.

    Except there wasn’t any illegal activity was there? Lawler’s allegations were made to police after the woman wrote a letter of complaint to FWA about Lawler’s aggressive, threatening and bullying behaviour . If he had nothing to do with the investigation, how come he is even talking to staff of the HSU, let alone threatening them?
    And just how did Lawler manage to read the woman’s private email correspondence? – it would seem he was the one conducting an illegal activity.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/industrial-relations/fair-work-australia-vice-president-drawn-into-hsu-row/story-fn59noo3-1226263184928

    …A few days after Mr Giudice approached Mr Lawler about Ms Glen’s complaint, Mr Lawler wrote to NSW Police making allegations of criminal conduct against her. In his letter to the head of Strikeforce Carnarvon, which is investigating alleged corruption in the HSU, Mr Lawler claims Ms Glen and HSU East acting assistant general-secretary Gerard Hayes may have engaged in a criminal conspiracy. Ms Glen and Mr Hayes strenuously deny Mr Lawler’s allegations.

    Mr Lawler claims Ms Glen may have been given an inducement to give false evidence, noting that in a private email exchange with her partner in December, she had referred to a cheque she was going to pick up.

    “I had ordered a bank cheque to pay my rent,” Ms Glen said, questioning how Mr Lawler had obtained her emails. She says she finds it extraordinary that Mr Lawler, the second highest industrial judge in the land, would engage in such a campaign.

    Mr Lawler’s associate said it would be inappropriate for him to comment…

  245. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 5, 2012 12:36 am

    Jackson may be part of the union rorting and dodgy deals club; she has probably inherited the habit from her predecessors, such as Thomson.

    Jackson inherited the habit from predecessors, but Thomson and all others didn’t? Why the excuse made for Jackson?

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/health-union-allegations-turn-a-brawl-into-open-warfare-20120202-1qvov.html#ixzz22aWE0Z1k

    ”I make this complaint in my private capacity albeit that my official status has been brought into the matter by virtue of the actions of others,” he wrote.
    Mr Lawler was referring to written complaints to his boss by Gerard Hayes, a close ally of Mr Williamson, and Carol Glen, a former loyal lieutenant to Ms Jackson until her sudden resignation.

    How does private citizen Lawler get to read private correspondence between Glen and her partner? Why would private citizen Lawler be phoning and threatening these people?

  246. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 5, 2012 1:03 am

    ‘Old cow’ quip about Gillard brings a rebuke for farming leader

    ”This plant is designed to process old cows,” Mr Farley told the conference. ”So the old cows that become non-productive, instead of making a decision to either let her die in the paddock or put her in the truck … this gives us a chance to take non-productive animals off and put them through the processing system.
    ”So it’s designed for non-productive old cows – Julia Gillard’s got to watch out.”
    InDaily reported the remark was met with sustained laughter from the crowd…

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/old-cow-quip-about-gillard-brings-a-rebuke-for-farming-leader-20120803-23l9q.html#ixzz22adYiKnc

    a public speech at a conference
    *sigh*

  247. August 5, 2012 8:56 am

    Gordon Ramsay’s dwarf porn double Percy Foster found dead in a badger den in Wales.
    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/gordon-ramsays-dwarf-porn-double-found-dead-in-a-badger-den-in-wales/story-e6frev20-1226137951576

  248. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 5, 2012 12:28 pm

    AO, the only reason Jackson, and therefore Lawler are in the spotlight is that she has been a leader is highlighting the dishonest use of union members funds by Thomson.

    She (and therefore Lawler) now have targets on their chests.

    So regardless of whether Lawler has complaints against him, or whether rhe has provided informal advice to his partner, or whether it was appropriate that he make a complaint to police-
    • It is only because Jackson is inconvenient to the ALP, and
    • The ALP is completely unforgiving of those it finds inconvenient, and
    • There is still no evidence of any actions by Lawler that had any influence on the FWA investigation into Thomson, and
    • Without the alleged interference into Nassios’ investigation, there is no basis for complaining about the outcome, it is only juicy if these allegations against Lawler get currency.
    ——
    I note that Min has decided to allow Miglo’s “lie” comment to remain, but has decided not to allow my response out of moderation. That’s why censorship is so unhealthy on blogs.

  249. el gordo permalink
    August 5, 2012 1:39 pm

    Festering Orgy has endured three days of media scrutiny…

    http://www.rapsinews.com/judicial_news/20120801/264036450.html

    Heretics should be put to the sword.

  250. TB Queensland permalink
    August 5, 2012 4:46 pm

    In between making and fitting incest** insect screens …
    (**just had to share that Spoonerism!)

    I’m researching SUVs … of the V6 variety … (all roads are leading to the Mitsubishi Outlander VR at this stage) … and I’m considering breaking my own rule and buying new …

    Anyone own an SUV?

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Update on the theft of my son’s car … he identified a photo of the bloke for the police this morning, they know where he is … and … he was on parole for the same crime … we await his imminent arrest!

    Also good news a potential buyer is arriving on Tuesday, from Mackay … fingers crossed …

  251. August 5, 2012 5:06 pm

    “Anyone own an SUV?”

    Coincidently, friends of mine visiting from Tassie were talking about this last night. They’re “elderly Australians” (retirees), they are interested in buying one of these…

    Apparently the diesel model is very fuel efficient.. six litres for 100km.

    http://www.kia.com.au/cars/showroom/Sorento

    Coincidentally (again), another couple of friends, also visiting from Tasmania, this morning showed us their new SUV that they just bought here in Melbourne…

    http://www.bmw.com.au/com/en/newvehicles/x/x5/2010/showroom/introduction.html?dbc=2055&gclid=CK7E1dv1z7ECFQQJRQodZAQAIg

    (I think there might be a slight price difference between the two) 😉

  252. August 5, 2012 5:07 pm

    BTW, George Gently is on ABC1 tonight…

  253. TB Queensland permalink
    August 5, 2012 6:01 pm

    Thanks, sreb … especially GG … I’m sure I’ll give the BM a miss but my son mentioned that Kia & Hyundai were worth a look (a surprise!) … he’s still in the trade, at a senior management level (can’t say where it’s a high profile job … and we know how certain arseholes play around with snippets of info! Is he still posting at CW?)

  254. August 5, 2012 8:19 pm

    People that live in the city & feel the need to have & drive an SUV make me piss myself with laughter.

  255. August 5, 2012 8:21 pm

    Something else that makes me piss myself with laughter…

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-is-set-to-part-ways-with-coach-matthew-primus/comments-e6freck3-1226443293012

    Eat shit & die, portscum. Lower depths hath ne’er been plumbed by thou.

    😆

    😆

    😆

  256. TB Queensland permalink
    August 5, 2012 8:27 pm

    … feel the need to have & drive an SUV make me piss myself with laughter.

    Me too, HD … but you forget I’m retired, mate … I live in the city (outskirts actually) … but them islands in the bay I look at every day … need an SUV if I want to travel there (and BTW this little turkey knows the difference between 4WD and an AWD …) 😉

  257. August 5, 2012 8:32 pm

    Sorry, TB. I’ll make you an exception. I can see why short men want a car with a high wheel base! (joking)

    I was really using my initial comment as a segue into my scathing boot-in-the-guts for Port Adelaide, long may they stand ridiculed & held up as a laughing stock. The rest of the world pisses on Port supporters from a great height. As it should be. Fold back into SANFL obscurity you cocky fucksticks!

  258. August 5, 2012 8:47 pm

    I was seriously joking…& I’ll stop doing the pissy short man thing from now, coz it’s a stupid dig & I can’t tell if I’m actually pissing you off & that’s not what I want to do. 🙂

    I’d be heading for the islands too if I was you. Civilisation is overrated. I just read a book called ‘The Philosopher & The Wolf’, oddly enough about a philosopher who loved & lived with a wolf for 11 years. It reinforced my somewhat negative view of the bulk of humanity.

    Ever heard of the Koehler Method?

  259. James of North Melbourne permalink
    August 6, 2012 7:14 am

    I live in North Melbourne and proudly drive a Patrol.

  260. TB Queensland permalink
    August 6, 2012 8:05 am

    Ever heard of the Koehler Method?

    Edify me … ???

  261. TB Queensland permalink
    August 6, 2012 8:18 am

    Ever heard of the Koehler Method?

    Just looked it up … I recall watching a doco about a guy who had wolves as pets … we owned a boxer pup at the time and we used some of his techniques ie a dog believes his family is the pack … and in our case our little boy was at the bottom and then him … we had our son feed him his breakfast and our daughter his food … taught the dog his place in the pack …

  262. August 6, 2012 8:30 am

    “I live in North Melbourne and proudly drive a Patrol (car)”

    Snacty’s neighbourhood watch armed patrol…?

  263. August 6, 2012 9:10 am

    “I live in North Melbourne and proudly drive a Patrol.”

    GUFFAW !

  264. Go Pro! permalink
    August 6, 2012 9:55 am

    It’s time the olympics were made professional and all government funding stopped. Each contestant would need to pay their own way, including substantial entry fees. But the potential rewards would be big, with prize money paid down to say the top ten in each event. Personal sponsorships would be allowed, and contestants would compete as individuals, not for any country.

    (It’ll never happen, though, because too many parasites are sucking on the public teat sports bureaucrats’ jobs depend on the current system.)

  265. el gordo permalink
    August 6, 2012 10:08 am

    I agree Tony, its become a farce.

  266. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 6, 2012 10:09 am

    I barrack for the parasites sucking on the public teat , because they always win.

  267. August 6, 2012 10:14 am

    Andrew Bolt shows some good sense…& maybe has an epiphany about some of the loons who see him as being under their umbrella?

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/happy_to_help_those_who_ask_but_not_people_who_peddle_this/P20/

    A special mention for the world’s most self important gardener, who appears in comments, doing what it thinks it does best…name dropping & inferring that it has great influence in all kinds of ‘credible institutions’.
    Not surprising to see that dense prick associating itself with Glenn Beckian conspiratorial ramblings.

  268. August 6, 2012 10:16 am

    The tears and pleas for more funding are making me sick.

    If medals have to be purchased, then they’re not worth winning.

    By the way, our largely unfunded yachties are going to save the day with 3, possibly 4, gold medals.

    Not that you’d know it with Nine’s coverage. It’s appalling.

  269. August 6, 2012 10:17 am

    FUCK THE OLYMPICS

    Marginalise that shit onto FoxSports, where it can only irritate those who are fervent enough to want to pay to watch it.

  270. August 6, 2012 10:19 am

    “The tears and pleas for more funding are making me sick.

    If medals have to be purchased, then they’re not worth winning.”

    Strongly agree!

    * watching little sailboats is about as visually entertaining as lawn bowls.

  271. August 6, 2012 10:25 am

    Thank God you lot feel the same way…

    ABC News Breakfast has become 95% consumed with reporting on the Olympics, this morning reporting that the reason the Ockers are doing so poorly is because sport isn’t compulsory in schools.

    For the love of God, what a load of bollocks.

    And then we have all these teary-eyed silver medalists, all bitter and resentful cos they didn’t get Gold.

    FFS, what a precious pack of little sooks our so-called “athletes” have become.

    Perhaps they just need to face up to the fact that “other people” are actually better than they are…?

  272. August 6, 2012 10:34 am

    I get that, Toilet. Even as a yachtie, I get bored watching it. But Nine are running 2 channels, with identical content.

    Why can’t one of the channels give the focussed coverage of the more popular events, as they appear to be trying to do, and the other give half hourly or hourly rolling updates? Given our obsession with Gold, it’s hard to believe that barely anyone knows that…

    1. Tom Slingsby will win Gold in the Laser class from 11pm tonight.

    2. Nathan Outteridge and Iain Jensen will win Gold in the 49er class on Wednesday night.

    3. Matthew Belcher and Malcolm Page will win Gold in the 470 class on Thursday night.

    It’s still relatively early days but the young Elliott 6m match racing girls are undefeated after the round robin and will carry significant advantages into the finals rounds. They’re certainly a medal chance, and would be favourites for Gold at this stage.

  273. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 6, 2012 10:37 am

    James Brayshaw’s rowing commentary, the same in every race-

    ”…and with 250 metres to go Australia is beautifully placed, 5 boat lengths behind Croatia, who is in 4th place… Australia will dig deep to finish strongly… Australia is perfectly placed with 150 metres to go, in 4th place, only 6 lengths behind Croatia… Australia is finishing strongly, increasing its speed. They’re surging to the finish!!! GO AUSTRALIA!!!!!

    …Australia finishes 4th. No idea who wins or came 2nd, but apparently Croatia came 3rd.

  274. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 10:39 am

    Damn

    Looks like I missed another blog war on the weekend. Oh well………………….I suppose ya gotta expect that if you have a life LOL

    Good to see the PipMigMin back into a threesome again. Plus all the accusations back and forth and claims by Min about how hurtful to her marriage some bloggers had been.

    LOL

    I thought I read her exclaiming positive joy at the breakup of her loveless match a couple of weeks ago.

    So they are back together until the next divorce. We should really open a betting market on that.

    I heard on the weekend at dinner party that a Federal Buraeucrat was attending that the Federal Bureaucracy has been spending the last 3 months purging its ranks of what was termed to me “long term employed gross underachievers” (read lazy cnuts) in order to meet its “Efficiency Dividend” as required in the May Budget.

    Someone immediately sprung to mind

  275. Tony permalink
    August 6, 2012 10:41 am

    I don’t understand anything Sancty just said. 😉

  276. August 6, 2012 10:41 am

    Tim Flannery?

  277. August 6, 2012 10:50 am

    I know Jaws. It’s hilarious! The latest fabrication is that somehow it was “our fault” that the bizarre love triangle exploded into a huge public spat over at teh cafe…

    All we did, is try to make a musical out of it…

  278. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 10:50 am

    LOL

    No

    Someone else…………………..LOL

    But he’d be up there

  279. August 6, 2012 10:51 am

    “I don’t understand anything Sancty just said”

    Welcome to the club.

  280. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 10:57 am

    “….In 2008, Arctic summer sea ice reached the second-lowest extent recorded since the dawn of the satellite era — and winter sea ice reached its lowest recorded extent in 2011. Now climate scientists say the Arctic could be completely ice free in the summer by 2012. “

    December 15, 2009- Al Gore

    By my calculations there are only 25 days to go until the end of the Northern Summer

  281. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 10:59 am

    Dont worry Sancty

    Bloody landlubbers………………..the lot of them.

    I quite like the little old Lasers. They are a fun boat to learn to sail on before you try your hand a the bigger stuff

  282. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 11:27 am

    “………..And then we have all these teary-eyed silver medalists, all bitter and resentful cos they didn’t get Gold……………”

    LOL

    Mrs Jaws got mighty annoyed on the weekend when everytime I saw an Aussie swimmer on TV I called out “Failure !”

    Then she would say that they “Won Silver” and I would then correct her with “No……………you only win Gold…………………………you get awarded Silver or Bronze”

    I now carry significant brusing to my upper arms from repeated punches

  283. August 6, 2012 11:43 am

    Gee, Mrs Jaws must be quite butch then eh?

  284. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 11:58 am

    What I find most amusing is the repeated advice that a few of us here should seek “Help”

    That’s hilarious considering one of “Them” claims to be “not quite right in the head” and another ( we’ll call Mrs Perry Mason) thinks she knows the ins and outs of the Constitution and everything in a “legal” context but has not completed a Law degree. Talk about a courtroom Walter Mitty

    If there are people needing “Help” I can nominate one to up his intake of his Meds and Mrs Perry Mason to perhaps stop watching repeats of The Castle and Law & Order.

  285. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 6, 2012 1:05 pm

    However it is interesting to note that there is finally acknowledgement of aberrant behaviour, which has been the consistent undercurrent of the acrimony.

  286. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 1:20 pm

    I too know a few people who are “not quite right in the head”. But they are completely different in that they actually take it seriously and dont partake at all of alcohol and stick to a strict regime on diet and exercise.

    They are acutely aware of the effects that alcohol has upon those who are “not quite right in the head” and are quite happy to completely refrain from booze in order to prevent unnecessary “attacks”.

    But that just goes to show the difference between people I know who observe common sense and take responsibility for their health and consequent actions and its effects on those surounding them and others types ( I’m sure you still look over here despite your denials) who are totally irresponsible and lacking in self control and who use it as a convenient excuse for their frequent attacks of mania.

    Those types deserve no sympathy and their offering up of their illness as somehow responsible should be seen as nothing short of pathetic and destined to be repeated.

  287. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 6, 2012 1:24 pm

    It’s official!

    BLAME THE MEDIA!

    If the HATE MEDIA would publish the medals table on the basis of ‘total medals’ instead of just counting gold, Our Fabulous AUSSIE (OI!OI!OI!) Team would be 8th.

    The HATE MEDIA is f**ked!

  288. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 1:48 pm

    …Personal sponsorships would be allowed, and contestants would compete as individuals, not for any country…

    What would be the point then? Don’t professional athletes already do that in world competition? May as well complete the farce, turn it over to the corporations and let them all die premature deaths from doping.

    Sorry, TB. I’ll make you an exception. I can see why short men want a car with a high wheel base! (joking)

    As long as you don’t stop traffic while you crawl up a 4″ sloping gutter in your 4WD TB! 😉

    The ABC has been bastardised by undisclosed, paid corporate representation [IPA] & journos interviewing other hacks, where are the experts, the community reps and the public officials? It’s a national disgrace what has become of the ABC.

    Increase the public funding of the ABC and kick out the corporates!

  289. el gordo permalink
    August 6, 2012 2:05 pm

    ‘It’s a national disgrace what has become of the ABC.’

    Hear hear.

  290. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 2:06 pm

    If the HATE MEDIA would publish the medals table on the basis of ‘total medals’ instead of just counting gold, Our Fabulous AUSSIE (OI!OI!OI!) Team would be 8th.

    I know, let’s stop the tears, recriminations and protect shop windows, ditch those useless medals, award them a 4WD!

  291. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 2:14 pm

    I know, make it a “Country Of Origin” event! [could you make me a trademark symbol please TB!]

    COO -eee!

  292. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 6, 2012 2:29 pm

    Country of Origin™

  293. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 6, 2012 2:52 pm

    ..and introduce some sports that Our Aussies (OI!OI!IOI!!) are good at. Such as Aussie Rules!! Maybe sheep herding with a dog. Power boat racing!

  294. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 2:59 pm

    hehe, SB & TomM 😆

  295. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 3:17 pm

    Such as Aussie Rules!! Maybe sheep herding with a dog. Power boat racing!

    Power boat racing would be about as boring as yachting.

    Excellent thinking tomM, if we can have hurling why can’t we have sheep herding? I quite like the way those kelpies go about their work. Disclosure: as a kid, our family dog was a half dingo, half kelpie called rusty and the nearby army officers had to visit us on a regular basis to ask that we keep rusty in the yard because he was exhausting the sheep. The mighty Rusty dog would round them up, but he didn’t know what to do with them afterwards. I always wondered why the army had a paddock with sheep in it, in an adelaide suburb. Anyway, I digress.

    I’d rather watch sheep herding than fast walking, I’m sure it’s more skilfull. Why not aussie rules? we can accept others, could be awful to be beaten at our own game though! Would it then be world rules? 🙂

  296. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 3:27 pm

    ooh, the odyssey thingy is on abc24, it’s a bit exciting, they have data!

  297. el gordo permalink
    August 6, 2012 3:27 pm

    ‘I’d rather watch sheep herding than fast walking…’

    The dogs win gold?

  298. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 3:30 pm

    Love that huge US flag in the background, toiletboss!

  299. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 3:34 pm

    curiosity rover has landed on mars, much celebrations in the tower!

    The dogs win gold?

    They would probably be happy with a pat, a nice dinner and a ride home in the back of the ute! And they would still put their hearts into the sport.

  300. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 3:46 pm

    “..and introduce some sports that Our Aussies (OI!OI!IOI!!) are good at. ”

    V8 Supercars

  301. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:00 pm

    I’ll like to see the dogs and horses on the dais, with medals around their necks. I mean, in the current equestrian events, it’s the jockeys that get the glory, but the horses do all the work.

    Go the Labradors!!! And grey horses!!!!

  302. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:15 pm

    Some good ones from Crikey:

    ‘Unproductive old cow’, say one-dimensional old men

    The abuse of the PM goes well beyond the usual double standard that every female politician, regardless of party, has to endure…

    …She seems to push the buttons of older white men who aren’t used to dealing with women professionally, as if their long years in all-male environments have rendered them unable to process the idea of a woman who isn’t a subordinate or in a domestic role…

    …So, perhaps, having a vagina isn’t an automatic disqualification for office, but failing to use it for producing children may well be…

    Are we still America’s deputy IP sheriff in the Asia-Pacific?

    And what’s really disturbing is that it looks like, yet again, Australian negotiators are quite prepared to compromise Australian interests and support unbalanced US proposals in copyright — even when most of our neighbours want something different. It seems like it’s “all the way with the USTR” on this one.

    Get Fact: is the Labor caucus full of working-class heroes?

    …Over two-thirds — 72.5% (or 74) — of ALP members and senators explicitly claim a direct hardscrabble lineage. Shave off a few per cent for serial embellishers and those reluctant to trawl over their childhood, and it’s safe to say that well over half of Labor MPs did, in fact, grow up in working class conditions.

    Accordingly, Get Fact rules that Wayne Swan’s statement that “many” Labor caucus members come from hard-bitten backgrounds is “Mostly True”…

  303. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:25 pm

    So, does that include those who “lived in a car”?

  304. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:29 pm

    ..and introduce some sports that Our Aussies (OI!OI!IOI!!) are good at. ”
    V8 Supercars…

    And perhaps the yanks could add excitement to the shooting sport, they could ‘take it to another level] and have domestic terrorism, instead of shooting at targets, put real people out there! Let’s see, who would win the medals?
    1 – USA
    2 – Syria
    3- China

    [bad taste? have I gone too far? apologies if I offend]

    Military veteran kills six at Sikh Temple of Wisconsin before he is ‘put down’

  305. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:34 pm

    Yes I heard he was “put down”

    I assume that means “forcibly euthanased”

  306. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:37 pm

    “And perhaps the yanks could add excitement to the shooting sport………”

    Lebanese are good at knife throwing.

    And they’d give the Yanks a good run for their money with a “Drive By Shooting Event”

    Of course Projectile Vomiting could be the Aussie and English domineered sports

  307. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:38 pm

    And the Pakistanis could have a Stone Throwing Event.

  308. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:47 pm

    😆

  309. TB Queensland permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:48 pm

    Do all other states have a driving licence with a chip?

  310. TB Queensland permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:50 pm

    The latest fabrication is that somehow it was “our fault” that the bizarre love triangle exploded into a huge public spat over at teh cafe…

    What’s this mean, sreb?

  311. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:52 pm

    Last I heard it was only QLD TB, not sure though. Apparently with nary a protest, the always obedient Qlders allowed the state to invade their privacy and create an ‘Australia Card’ by stealth [disguised as a drivers licence]

  312. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 6, 2012 4:57 pm

    My driver’s licence has a photo of George Clooney on it… no…wait a moment… it’s me!

    So many people make that mistake.

  313. TB Queensland permalink
    August 6, 2012 5:00 pm

    KL, reason I asked is that I spent a very pleasant BBQ day at the seafront with our friends from “up the back” and got talking to a couple … she had a sling on and the upshot was that she had been the last into a shopping centre carpark … a 17 yo (now out on bail) and a 19 yo in jail … had bashed her to steal her car … one had wrenched her shoulder (to stop her raising the alarm) , hit her on the forehead and then the other cowardly bastard had king hit her from behind … but they couldn’t steal the car, because the handbrake was an under the dash twist and turn (too dumb to figure) …

    BUT … I got thinking … if our cars had a card slot for our driving licence (with chip) only we could use ’em … the risk then of course is that they target people and force them to identify the car from their card … still … just a thought …

    Just thinkin’

  314. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 6, 2012 5:11 pm

    I’ve reformed! That photo was taken when I was less sleazy.

  315. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 5:13 pm

    “… the risk then of course is that they target people and force them to identify the car from their card ”

    Its to keep dangerous seniors off the road from next July

  316. TB Queensland permalink
    August 6, 2012 5:16 pm

    KL, that’s scaper!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    Its to keep dangerous seniors off the road from next July

    What’s “special” about “next July”, Wally … I find it very difficult to believe that you know something I don’t … 😆

  317. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 5:31 pm

    Everything to do with Government starts from 1 July TB………….Everything

  318. JAWS permalink
    August 6, 2012 5:31 pm

    By the way NSW has no chip

  319. TB Queensland permalink
    August 6, 2012 5:56 pm

    LOL! WalMart …

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    REALWAR

    Anyone who has an issue with the Australia as members of the Coalition and working with the US taking on (out) the Taliban … look away now … anyone who has issues with people being killed in war … look away now … anyone who has an issue with video games … look away now …

    This shows how two Apache helicopters assist an American night patrol in Afghanistan …

    “You can run but you can’t hide … ”

    http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=f213b73d647e

  320. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 6:18 pm

    …the upshot was that she had been the last into a shopping centre carpark … a 17 yo (now out on bail) and a 19 yo in jail … had bashed her to steal her car …

    That was a crime of opportunity I think

    Another reason that women have to fear being alone at night. I wouldn’t shop at a big shopping centre just before 9pm closing with little traffic around, I do at my little local shop just down the road but I am wary and try to park close to the entrance.

    I remember a couple of years ago, walking out of a shopping carpark [broad daylight 0800hrs] to go across the road when a rough looking man [mid/late 20’s] walked up to me briskly, saw me looking at him – direct eye contact, and then he faltered in his step, eyes down and walked away.

    It was only afterwards that I realised I had nearly been attacked, maybe had my bag snatched, but something about my demeanour made him think twice. I wasn’t deliberately doing anything, but I looked directly at him without fear. I was of course, completely absorbed by my own thoughts and plans at the time, not suspecting anything at all.

    TB, The Australian privacy foundation has had concerns about the Qld Drivers Licence for years, ever since it was planned. As long ago as 2008, the APF had been advocating for citizens, to no avail.

    http://www.privacy.org.au/Papers/indexPolicies.html#IdC

    http://www.privacy.org.au/Papers/Ltr-QldPrem-080602.pdf

    http://www.privacy.org.au/Papers/QDvrsLic-100914.pdf

    There has been no public outrage or even concern as far as I’m aware.

  321. TB Queensland permalink
    August 6, 2012 6:42 pm

    KL, why should anyone have to “fear” walking the streets in 2012 … I watch my grandkids (10 and 14) go home, in daylight – 35 to 46 … I walk my 9 year old to his home – next door … paranoid … nah … stupid society!

    If a 17 yo and a 19 yo took me on these days, the reality is, that I wouldn’t have a chance … in fact is two blokes took me on at ANY age I wouldn’t stand a chance! The world just seems to have more arseholes around now … WHY?

    Kids have rights …they are taught their rights but no-one tells ’em that so do other people … with rights come responsibility …

    The story I was told today prompted me to make to make the comment, “… and I bet they came out of the woodwork to help the crims?” … the woman (BTW, I forgot to mention was well into her sixties/early seventies!) … she said, “they certainly did … even the police talked about their rights!”

  322. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 7:27 pm

    KL, why should anyone have to “fear” walking the streets in 2012 …

    We do though TB. Women have always had to fear walking the streets after dark, not right, but that’s how it is for us. that’s what ‘Reclaim the Night’ is all about.

    http://www.isis.aust.com/rtn/

    The philosophy of Reclaim The Night encourages grass roots participation in the organisation of events by as many women as possible. In this way RTN is able to draw together women from diverse backgrounds and experiences to work together in addressing issues of men’s sexual violence against women and children.

  323. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 6, 2012 7:42 pm

    Have you got a comment of mine in the spaminator reb – a reply to TB on this rostrum thread?
    Don’t think there was anything in it that should have caused it to fall into the net.

  324. James of North Melbourne permalink
    August 7, 2012 12:06 am

    1. Tom Slingsby. Tick.

  325. public toilet permalink
    August 7, 2012 7:11 am

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…

  326. James of North Melbourne permalink
    August 7, 2012 7:27 am

    2. Nathan Outteridge and Iain Jensen. Tick.

  327. August 7, 2012 8:45 am

    No, nothing in the spaminator Kitty…

  328. JAWS permalink
    August 7, 2012 9:06 am

    The Black Hand of the Dark Side has gobbled up Kitty’s free speech.

  329. JAWS permalink
    August 7, 2012 9:08 am

    I have yet to look but I imagine there is much rejoicing and champagne corks popping somewhere else about the latest Newspoll.

    Of course I dont expect to seee it mentioned that it has come at the expense of Milne’s Greens.

  330. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 7, 2012 9:32 am

    PRIME Minister Julia Gillard will launch an attack on the states today over soaring power prices, barely a month after her own price-inflating carbon tax began.
    And she will use the latest figures to back up her argument – which show household power bills have increased by a staggering 62.4 per cent in South Australia over the past four years, adding $1086 in expenses to the average bill before the carbon price even kicked in.

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/money/cost-of-living/household-power-bills-up-a-staggering-624pc-in-south-australia-over-four-years/story-fnagkbpv-1226444435858#ixzz22oOZKyxG

    So Gillard has let the press know that she’s about to make a speech that will blame the states for the big price rises in power!

    The types of questions that are likely to follow this startling development are-
    • Why did the federal government make such a hefty contribution to the price rises, with the carbon tax that Gillard promised not to introduce?
    • Why is she blaming the states now? Given that she didn’t say a word about the increases when most had occurred under state ALP governments.
    • Have the hefty price increases resulted in a fall in demand?
    • If not, why will an increase due to a carbon tax cause demand to fall?

    The public hate this type of disingenuous politics and Gillard has a well deserved reputation for it. It’s exactly why she is so deeply unpopular.

    However, when the questions start, well hear the usual chorus of “BLAME THE MEDIA”, no doubt.

  331. TB Queensland permalink
    August 7, 2012 9:46 am

    Here’s a clue ToM

    http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/hypocrisy?q=hypocrisy

    And yes, I’m referring to your post …

  332. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 7, 2012 9:52 am

    No idea what you’re on about there TB.

    Gillard is taking a cheap shot at the states, when most of the increases were under ALP governments. The price rises they ushered in didn’t make much difference to demand, they imposed only hardship.

    But somehow her carbon tax price increase is different?

  333. August 7, 2012 9:54 am

    I have a new post up about the Newspoll result…

    Just sayin’)

  334. August 7, 2012 9:58 am

    “Why is she blaming the states now? Given that she didn’t say a word about the increases when most had occurred under state ALP governments.”

    Good point. The timing is curious….

    The States have been hiking power prices for years.

  335. August 7, 2012 10:01 am

    As long as they’re not playing the blame game….

  336. August 7, 2012 10:02 am

    LOL @ snacty…! 🙂

  337. August 7, 2012 12:02 pm

    Comedy break…

    I took the wife to a disco at the weekend. There was a guy on the dance floor
    giving it everything he had; break dancing, moon walking, back flips, the works.

    My wife turned to me and said, “See that guy? 25 years ago he proposed to me and I turned him down.”

    I said, “Looks like he’s still f*#*king celebrating!”

  338. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 7, 2012 1:35 pm

    If ‘THE HATE’ media would publish the medals table on the basis of silver, Our Fabulous AUSSIE!!! (OI!) Team would be 4th… And in front of the Poms and Kiwis and various current and former Commies and some cheese eaters.

    OI!

  339. JAWS permalink
    August 7, 2012 1:39 pm

    Comedy Break # 2

    A certain Left leaning blog well known for its practice of deleting comments has a new Thread up on “Freedom of Speech”

    How funny !

  340. el gordo permalink
    August 7, 2012 1:50 pm

    I pinched this from teh kaf…just so we can talk about it here.

    ‘For an act to be unlawful it must fulfil the following criteria:

    ‘that the action causes words, sounds, images or writing to be communicated to the public; or that it is done in a public place.

    ‘that the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people.

    ‘that the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person or of some or all of the people in the group.’

  341. JAWS permalink
    August 7, 2012 1:56 pm

    Tick
    Tick
    Tick

    Thats got me covered………………LOL

  342. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 7, 2012 2:01 pm

    Voltaire, as reinterpreted by Cafe Whispers…

    “I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say itdelete it, then ban you.”

  343. JAWS permalink
    August 7, 2012 2:05 pm

    He was very good that Voltaire bloke

    I think I used to have a refrigerator made by his company as well.

  344. JAWS permalink
    August 7, 2012 2:06 pm

    🙂

  345. TB Queensland permalink
    August 7, 2012 3:47 pm

    No idea what you’re on about there TB. Gillard is taking a cheap shot at the states …

    Because that’s what you do all the time … and if the LibNat state governments were so good why haven’t they controlled pricing … Noddy Newman said he would cap power prices and then the prices went up anyway!

    All the states said they would control power pricing before the election and they havgen’t! What a bare faced LIE!

    You can’t have it both one way … and not the other … state power hikes … ARE STATE power hikes … SINCE THEY WERE ELECTED … not carbon tax hikes … as usual you’re just following the LibNat script rather than any logic … ex ALP voter my arse …

    In your painted little bedroom, only the LibNats are allowed to make up untruths … comes to the government pointing out a few home truths and the spiders’s web of faery intrigue begins to wrap itself around the real truth in your single minded state of hyperbole …

    Like circle in a circle … like a wheel within a wheel … round and fkn round we go …

  346. August 7, 2012 3:52 pm

    “A certain Left leaning blog well known for its practice of deleting comments has a new Thread up on “Freedom of Speech”

    PMSL!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

  347. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 7, 2012 4:03 pm

    The Voltaire version…

    Then apparently it’s fine to cause some humiliation on the basis of sexual orientation and mental impairment, because those types are ??
    ===========
    I do what? I hardly ever comment on state issues TB, in case you hadn’t noticed.

    Though you must have observed my criticism of Kennett and his era on various occasions, my complimentary remarks about the first Carr government in NSW and similar complimentary reflections on the first Bracks ministry.

    Really TB, this is a site that mainly discusses federal issues, and it happens that I comment on the federal government.

  348. JAWS permalink
    August 7, 2012 4:39 pm

    Lucky for the World that we have all got the Olympics to talk about. I mean here in Australia we are whinging about medal tallies etc.

    What will we have next week to divert us all from the ongoing massacres in Syria ?

  349. TB Queensland permalink
    August 7, 2012 5:58 pm

    Really TB, this is a site that mainly discusses federal issues …

    Seems, The TDT Blogmasta, has a “little helper” here too … I’ve always thought this site discussed everything and anything … interesting or not …

    … and it happens that I comment on the federal government.

    Yer a wriggly little sod aren’t you … I sometimes understand why you were kicked out of the resigned from the union …

    A Short Tale of Australian State Issues … ByToM

    Gillard is taking a cheap shot at the states, when most of the increases were under ALP governments. The price rises they ushered in didn’t make much difference to demand, they imposed only hardship.

    … and what’s with the petulant phrasing, sounds like you’ve been reading Shades of grey …

    … “really TB”, she said, with a toss of her long blonde hair … 🙄

  350. JAWS permalink
    August 7, 2012 10:54 pm

    So has anyone actually read The Fatal Shore by Robert Hughes ?

    Just wondering

  351. Super Sell permalink
    August 8, 2012 6:41 am

    Sally, Sally, Sally! Oi, Oi, Oi! 😯

  352. JAWS permalink
    August 8, 2012 8:59 am

    Anna, Anna, Anna ! Oi, Oi,Oi!

  353. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 8, 2012 9:55 am

    AUSSIE! AUSSIE!! AUSSIE!!!!
    OI!OI!OI!
    AUSSIE! OI!
    AUSSIE! OI!
    AUSSIE! AUSSIE!! AUSSIE!!!!
    OI!OI!OI!

    I love a sunburnt country…

    Once a jolly swagman…
    ♪ ♫ ♩

    Brings a tear to my eye…

  354. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2012 10:04 am

    So has anyone actually read The Fatal Shore by Robert Hughes ?

    The what? By who?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    MORE ON THE STOLEN CAR

    While my son has now got possession of his car … the police have now got possession of the “tealeaf” wot stole it! He is in jail … he was on parole and therefore police will be opposing bail … just hoping that the magistrate has some “bottle” …

    … now the funny part …

    When questioned, the thief told the police that he had paid $30,000 cash no receipt, no witnesses … he had then forged transfer papers, the Dept Transport issue new ownership docs, he had gone to the dealership, all within two hours … and accepted $27,000 for the car … his reason for accepting $3,000 less … the vehicle was defective and my son refused to give him his money back … 🙄 … the time (ie lost $$$) being wasted on this prick is incredible!

  355. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2012 10:23 am

    Off to finish my last three insect screens … total of 16! Funny, I found a mossie in the bathroom last night trying to get out – through the new insect screen! 😛

    The Minister, was not amused when I suggested we might have put ’em in back to front … 😆

  356. August 8, 2012 10:46 am

    “back to front”

    Very droll TB, very droll..

    But funny! 🙂

  357. August 8, 2012 10:51 am

    Why is it that chicks don’t find that sort of stuff funny?

    Are they born with some sort of humourless gene?

  358. el gordo permalink
    August 8, 2012 11:33 am

    ‘…humourless gene?’

    Not wishing to be politically incorrect, but I think you’ll find there are a lot less female standups.

    My theory is that humour is cultivated by males, as part of their toolkit to lure helpless females into their den.

  359. August 8, 2012 12:00 pm

    Can’t be true, Gordo, because immediately in the den they stop laughing. I think they confect laughter to get into the den.

    I think humour is cultivated by males as a break from the……….ah forget it.

  360. August 8, 2012 3:19 pm

    Moving blog from @mariekehardy about talking to a stranger on a plane. Nice reminder to engage with the folks around us http://t.co/z1SZcPuI

  361. JAWS permalink
    August 8, 2012 4:56 pm

    If ever there neded to be a wholesale obliteration of the lazy cnuts that make up the PS in Canberra here it is

    I hope Campbell Newman runs for PM someday and puts plenty of these cnuts out on the street

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/public-servants-come-to-blows-over-coffee-20120807-23snv.html

  362. August 8, 2012 5:41 pm

    Pathetic Oz Olympians can only win gold in back alley, non-event, snore inducing, marginal arse dragging sports.

    Still, some desperado flagsturbators will cheer for anything with a southern cross wrapped around its taxdollarwasting arse.

  363. Book Klub permalink
    August 8, 2012 5:45 pm

    I liked Marieke’s article, reb. I’ve also seen her write some spiteful, hateful shit. But, hey, who am I to judge?

  364. August 8, 2012 5:49 pm

    Nice assimilation of Bolt’s hatred for Hardy. Well learned, sir!

  365. August 8, 2012 5:50 pm

    LOL Tony….

    Maybe she had an uncharacteristic moment of compassion…?

  366. Looking in permalink
    August 8, 2012 5:50 pm

    Brownlows and Colemans are the only real medals.

  367. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2012 5:54 pm

    Oh, the HYPOCRISY of the LibNits and especially Noddy Newman …

    http://www.news.com.au/national/exclusive-despite-knifing-jobs-the-lnp-governmant-is-forking-out-for-a-posh-picnic-diner-en-blanc/story-fndo4ckr-1226445149763

    Then I saw, Wally’s, nightmare dream …

    I hope Campbell Newman runs for PM someday and puts plenty of these cnuts out on the street

    I bet you’re a Joh Bjelke Petersen fan too, Wally … Noddy’s favourite pollie apparently …

    … keep an eye out, in the not too distant future, for the dismantling of the Crime & Misconduct Commission (CMC), or loading up with “the boys” from the “club” …

    … and then the brown paper bags will be flowing again … 😉

    Some of us have seen what happens in Queensland when the “land developers” control the pollies … Clivey’s quiet at the moment … must be busy plotting in the backroom with Noddy & Co …

  368. Noice flag permalink
    August 8, 2012 5:55 pm

    “Nice assimilation of Bolt’s hatred for Hardy. Well learned, sir!”

    If you’ll excuse me! It was actually another wingnut thought-master who first drew my gaze towards the young Hardy.

    http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/woman_abuses_youngster/

  369. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2012 6:05 pm

    Moving blog from @mariekehardy about talking to a stranger on a plane

    Agree, sreb … that ToSY’s a sarcastic sod, hey? 🙄

    The past has gone, we can’t change it, no-one can predict or manipulate the future (unless its a GFC, 😛 just jokin’ ), we can only live for now … every day is a gift … that’s why we call it the present …

  370. JAWS permalink
    August 8, 2012 6:07 pm

    LOL………………………..Hey TB

    Have you had the sniffles lately ?

    http://www.news.com.au/national/sniffles-could-be-a-case-of-syphilis/story-fndo4eg9-1226446054036

  371. August 8, 2012 6:14 pm

    “If you’ll excuse me! It was actually another wingnut thought-master who first drew my gaze towards the young Hardy.”

    They are symbiotic, aren’t they.

    Both use eachother as a way to link their own rightwing (which, Bolt, interestingly tries to claim he isn’t) regurgitations to a larger captive audience of drooling sycophants. A good business plan for bad rehashing of US-style masturbatory anti-left/liberal screeds of indignation.

    Neither of them could survive outside of the corners they’ve painted themselves into.

  372. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2012 6:17 pm

    Have you had the sniffles lately ? LOL! Not a fkn chance … I had the flu needle 😯

    Toillette that is a fkn awful gravatar … it just looks too much like you … 😯

  373. Planning fail permalink
    August 8, 2012 6:19 pm

    Do tell: NBN costs blow out by $4.6b

  374. August 8, 2012 6:25 pm

    I can change it to a headless Mal Meninga with his gizzards adorning his neckstump if you like, teebee?

  375. August 8, 2012 6:26 pm

    Central planning rocks!

    Privatising everything is the new cultural marxism.

  376. JAWS permalink
    August 8, 2012 6:42 pm

    NBN out by $4.6Bn

    And only 8 more years of construction to go.

  377. August 8, 2012 6:53 pm

    Interesting NBN anecdote.

    A nearby coastal town, where my family happens to own a house & where I spend quite a bit of time in the ocean, is in the process of ripping up every sidewalk & house frontage as it moves towards a common sewerage system (as opposed to everyone having a septic tank on their property).
    The local council initially approached the federal government to have the NBN cables laid at the same time; presumably to take advantage of an already dug ditch. This proposal was knocked back; presumably because profligate wastage of taxmoney isn’t a concern when said money comes out of the pockets of powerless plebians.
    Thye ditchdiggers would be suitably impressed.

    So, on that note, I’m inclined to believe cautionary tales about the potential gross wastage, rorting & cost blowouts associated with the NBN.

    More’s the pity.

  378. JAWS permalink
    August 8, 2012 10:28 pm

    Yep !

    Contract to tear up concrete footpaths already awarded after brown paper bags exchanged, opened and counted

  379. JAWS permalink
    August 8, 2012 10:32 pm

    Meaning expect brand new pristine footpaths to be scarred and potholed by the bloke who didn’t know where Costa Rica was on his watch let alone some quaint coastal ville in SA

  380. JAWS permalink
    August 8, 2012 11:21 pm

    5 GOLD

    We are so good all we need to do is start a sailing race and the Rest Of the World lays down and surrenders to our greatness

    Oi. Oi. Oi. !

  381. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2012 9:20 am

    Not a mossie in sight last night … too bloody cold for ’em! 😆

  382. el gordo permalink
    August 9, 2012 9:21 am

    ‘A father with Parkinson’s disease was arrested as he watched the Olympic cycling road race because he ‘failed to smile or look like he was enjoying himself’.

    “I was sitting minding my own business,’ he told a local newspaper. ‘Before I knew anything the police grabbed me off this seven-foot wall, threw me to the floor and cuffed me so all I saw of the cycle race was between the feet of people from the pavement.

    “It could have been done better. I was arrested for not smiling. I have Parkinson’s.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185494/Olympics-2012-Parkinsons-disease-sufferer-54-held-police-Olympic-cycling-race-smiling.html#ixzz2302Aj3OA

  383. August 9, 2012 9:22 am

    Tonight’s a big one, Jaws. The first couple were as good as won before we started but tonight’s 470 medal race is a cracker. We go in with a 4 point advantage. That means that GB need to beat us by more than 2 places to win gold. The weather outlook is for light and shifty conditions, which, unusually, suits our blokes.

    In the match racing, our girls are into the semi finals against Finland I think on Friday night. Match racing is typically something you get into as an older and wiser yachtie yet our skipper, Olivia Price, is only 19 (God help her).

    GET AROUND THE YACHTIES!!! OI!!

  384. August 9, 2012 9:24 am

    Gordo, I reckon the cops in London are absolutely shitting themselves that there’s going to be an attack of some sort.

    It looks bad, but I kind of don’t blame them in a way.

  385. JAWS permalink
    August 9, 2012 9:55 am

    Yep Sancty………tonight should be Gold as well we hope.

    As an aside I’d forgotten that the Tornado cats had been “struck off” the Olympics. I’ve sailed both monos and cats in the past. I guess you are a mono lad only (?)

    Kinda miss that “need for speed”

    I cant remember why they got left out although I suppose you dont see alot of them these days.

    For some reason I thought the Hobies had replaced them. Still plenty of those around………….certainly in Sydney there are

  386. August 9, 2012 9:58 am

    Cats are for poofs.

  387. JAWS permalink
    August 9, 2012 9:59 am

    LOL

    Typical “Monoman” response

  388. August 9, 2012 10:04 am

    Got inspired to purchase myself an Impulse last night. Now how to inform Mrs Sancty…..

  389. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2012 10:09 am

    … light and shifty conditions …

    Must be a crooked race? 😛

  390. JAWS permalink
    August 9, 2012 10:10 am

    Confront her over her credit card account first……………..then go……….”Oh and by the way”

  391. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2012 10:10 am

    Impulse … what?

  392. JAWS permalink
    August 9, 2012 10:18 am

    Bloody Hell…………….!

    What next ……………………..Driving Lessons……….?

    Saudi roads must be the safest on the planet I reckon.

  393. Impulse permalink
    August 9, 2012 10:18 am

    http://girliegossip.com/impulse-true-love/

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

  394. JAWS permalink
    August 9, 2012 10:24 am

    Telstra has “tanked” today losing 10c to $3.88 after a lower than expected profit announcement. But its maintaining dividend at 28c p.a. and when franking is added in it’s a yield of 10.3%

  395. JAWS permalink
    August 9, 2012 10:26 am

    Bloody Hell…………….!

    What next ……………………..Driving Lessons……….?

    Saudi roads must be the safest on the planet I reckon.

    http://www.smh.com.au/olympics/athletics-london-2012/the-last-place-that-meant-more-than-any-medal-20120809-23vb8.html

  396. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2012 11:28 am

    Saudi roads must be the safest on the planet I reckon.

    Not according to my son in law (who works over there) … the buggers don’t have a speed limit out in the desert! Plus he reckons their lousy drivers …

    +++++++++++++++++++

    Telstra has “tanked” today

    That bloody NBN again … add that to the carbon tax … BTW strange that the carbon tax has had no real impact so now the NBN hits the headlines? The LibNits strategies are so bloody transparent …

  397. JAWS permalink
    August 9, 2012 11:33 am

    Seems the Yanks don’t like Smart Meters being installed in their homes.

    In fact they could be unconstitutional due to them being defacto listening devices as its claimed that the data from such meters can be used to determine what you are doing in the privacy of your home and even what programs you are watching determined by how much power is being used

    http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/unconstitutional-intrusion

  398. JAWS permalink
    August 9, 2012 11:56 am

    More on the China Story
    *******************************************************************************
    Dow Jones

    UPDATE: Rio Tinto Eyes China Steel Demand Peak In 2030
    09/08/2012 09:52AM AEST

    LONDON–China’s transition to consumer-led economic growth is forecast to result in growing steel demand–peaking in 2030–as the world’s largest consumer of many commodities moves away from investment-led growth, the chief economist of mining titan Rio Tinto (RIO) said Wednesday.

    Rio Tinto, the world’s second-largest iron ore producer by output after Brazil’s Vale SA (VALE), said it forecasts Chinese steel demand to peak at around 1 billion metric tons of crude steel production annually in 2030. This compares with about 683 million tons produced in China last year. Rio’s views broadly mirror similar forecasts made by BHP Billiton, the third-largest iron ore producer, which expects Chinese steel use to plateau after 2025.

    “Over time, we expect Chinese consumers to take over as the main driving force of the Chinese economy. This transition will be a multi-year process…[and as such] we still expect China’s demand for many commodities to continue growing in coming years, before reaching a peak over the next twenty years,” Vivek Tulpule said in his outlook for metal and minerals report.

    He added between now and 2030, India and countries in South East Asia are expected to become increasingly important sources of demand for commodities including steel.
    In the short-term, however, Mr. Tulpule expects commodity prices to remain volatile as the euro-zone sovereign debt crisis takes its toll on demand and other developed countries grapple with their high debt levels.

    He reaffirmed the company’s consensus forecast for global gross domestic product growth of 3.3% in 2012 despite a global slowdown in recent months due in part to the E.U. debt crisis, slower Chinese economic growth, and slower U.S. growth.

    He noted that China still faces economic headwinds due to depressed industrial output levels and very high inventory levels, and Chinese export growth is also likely to remain weak given slowing growth in both Europe and the U.S.

    However, China’s economy is still forecast to grow 8%, buoyed by its infrastructure investment plans, which should translate into increased commodities demand towards the end of the third quarter, he noted.

    In the U.S., Mr. Tulpule said consensus growth forecasts have been revised to 2.1% for 2012 from a previous estimate of 2.3% as weaker E.U. economic activity weighs on U.S. sentiment but commodities demand should remain resilient, buoyed by housing and consumer spending.

    He also raised concerns about policy inertia in India and E.U., which are holding back
    economic growth in both regions, particularly in the latter where the economy is forecast to slip into recession in 2012.

    Despite near-term volatility, Mr. Tulpule said he expects the global economy to continue growing in the medium-term, buoyed by urbanization and industrialization in fast-growing developing countries.

    From a currency perspective, Tulpule said he expects China to continue to moderately appreciated the value of the Chinese yuan against the dollar in the medium-term, although in the short-term, Chinese authorities may be cautious as they wait to see whether the recent slowdown in manufacturing production and economic activity stabilize.

    He noted that the yuan has traded broadly flat this year after appreciating to CYN6.3 per U.S. dollar from CNY6.6 per dollar in 2011.

  399. JAWS permalink
    August 9, 2012 11:58 am

    And of course they’ll do all this whilst powered by Wind Farms ……………..LOL

  400. el gordo permalink
    August 9, 2012 1:51 pm

    ‘Tim Congdon, from International Monetary Research, who tracks “broad” M3 money, said the industrial world may be turning the corner. “Early 2013 should see a much better macro-economic outcome with better growth and lower inflation at the same time – so long as the euro doesn’t blow apart.”

    ‘Authorities are cranking up stimulus almost everywhere, prodded by dire warnings from the International Monetary Fund. Brazil has slashed interest rates. So have a string of states in Asia, while Japan has gingerly restarted its printing press.

    ‘China has eased reserve requirements for banks and given the regions the go-ahead for a blitz of infrastructure spending. China’s Daily Economic News reported that Guangzhou is rushing through plans for a new airport and seven underground lines, with similar moves in Wuhan, Shanxi, and elsewhere

    ‘This follows talk of other colossal projects as regions compete in a dash for growth. China’s central bank said last week it would focus on “expanding domestic demand”.

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard …UK Tele

  401. August 9, 2012 2:14 pm

    Rostrums are useful for people who just say stuff which is not particularly relevant to the topic at hand.

  402. August 9, 2012 2:17 pm

    This quote from an old novel captures the condition:

    [She] spoke to them in her curious fragmentary way, plucking the words right out of the middle of her thoughts.

    Also this looks interesting.

  403. August 9, 2012 2:41 pm

    As disappointing as it is, I am informed on pretty good authority that this story may not take off. Not because it’s not accurate. It is.

    But because the influence weilded by certain people will ensure it doesn’t get off the ground.

    John Hartigan should be ashamed.

  404. August 9, 2012 2:58 pm

    It is high time the Australian people got more than a peek at the inner workings of Unionland. It is too late to affect Gillard’s position. Her fate is already sealed. But it appears that there are other powerful players with much to hide. We need a Royal Commission to shine some disinfecting sunlight into this stinking cesspit. Otherwise we may end up with another grotesquely compromised PM.

  405. August 9, 2012 2:58 pm

    Also the cops have it and are having a good look. Also doubtful though whether they have the stomach.

  406. JAWS permalink
    August 9, 2012 4:00 pm

    “It is high time the Australian people got more than a peek at the inner workings of Unionland”

    Aint that the truth.

    Afterall its only because of the stupidity of Craig Thomson that the World now knows about Michael Williamson.

    Lord knows what else lies beneath the carpet if Gillard’s activities are exposed

  407. August 9, 2012 4:22 pm

    Geez it’s funny watching Wicks and his crew crying about Jacksonville not getting MSM coverage when all along the story that’s trying to protect might be about to explode.

  408. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 9, 2012 4:28 pm

    [She] spoke to them in her curious fragmentary way, plucking the words right out of the middle of her thoughts.

    that was me on night shift last night! you have to guard yourself against accidentally telling the truth sometimes [being ‘professional’]. except the middle [unspoken] thoughts were more like “why can’t you just fck off back to your room and go to sleep” 🙂

  409. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 9, 2012 4:31 pm

    🙂 KL.

  410. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 9, 2012 4:37 pm

    We need a Royal Commission to shine some disinfecting sunlight into this stinking cesspit. Otherwise we may end up with another grotesquely compromised PM.

    i find it weird that you want rc’s and everything into what you all argued the other day is pretty much ‘the australian way’ – don’t worry about conflict of interest, inducements and collusions which appear to be commonplace, widespread and systemic in every aspect of government and private enterprise. we have the system and the people that reflect our own poor ethics, behaviours and morals.

  411. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 9, 2012 4:46 pm

    But because the influence weilded by certain people will ensure it doesn’t get off the ground.

    kinda like awb, children overboard etc?

  412. August 9, 2012 4:47 pm

    KL, when corporations do it, they, and the perpetrators, get prosecuted. Not all of them, sure, but a good number.

    When Trade Unions do it, it appears to just die down.

    It will be interesting to see whether the anger outlasts the inertia.

  413. August 9, 2012 4:54 pm

    I agree about AWB. Where is that enquiry that Kevin Rudd promised?

    I suspect children overboard came a cropper because it was felt that causing one’s boat to sink was no different to chucking kids over the side in any event.

    But I’m interested in your thoughts on this, KL….. Given that we know that:

    1. Bruce Wilson was thieving hundreds of thousands from the AWU
    2. He was laundering those funds through accounts set up by Julia Gillard
    3. He was at the time sleeping with Julia Gillard
    4. Julia Gillard was a Partner at Slater and Gordon
    5. Slater and Gordon never thought to question the distribution of said funds including when they went towards home renovations

    Do you not think there should be some answers given……you know…..something better than “I was young and naive”?

  414. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 9, 2012 5:20 pm

    That’s an interesting link SB. It’s all coming out, which is well deserved. A few questions in parliament next week will have it in the papers again.

  415. August 9, 2012 5:39 pm

    Do you not think there should be some answers given……you know…..something better than “I was young and naive”?

    MOLECULES!

  416. August 9, 2012 5:57 pm

    Hey Dad star arrested on child sex charges…

    http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/sex-assault-case-hey-dad-star-arrested-20120809-23wqv.html

  417. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 9, 2012 6:26 pm

    KL, when corporations do it, they, and the perpetrators, get prosecuted. Not all of them, sure, but a good number.
    When Trade Unions do it, it appears to just die down.
    It will be interesting to see whether the anger outlasts the inertia.

    the anger is all manufactured and it is yet another personal attack by a relentless campaigning media in collusion with the liberal party.

    i don’t like the whole ‘trawling through old history’ mindset that we have. The PM should be judged on present political performance and not have to defend allegations about old stuff that should have been brought up and dealt with 15 or whatever it was years ago. it is purely and simply a political strategy designed to personally attack the PM on character and has overtones of sexism and double standards about it. i doubt a male politician would have to continually endure the personal sledging that gillard faces on a daily basis. once again abbott’s agenda is ably assisted by a campaigning media hellbent on regime change. if only labor had that advantage, abbott has and he is still deeply unpopular as party leader!

    tony abbott when he became oppo leader asked for a ‘clean slate’ he wanted us to forget his attack dog, nasty politics and religious nutter image and let him be born again as new. it seems peculiar to the lib/nats that they have to drag everyone through the muck, even if they have to invent the muck themselves. but when it comes to their own dirty dealing, it’s oh, that’s old irrelevant history, let’s quickly move on, these people are full of honour and integrity! i can’t recall any male pm’s having their [very old] personal love life, dalliances and affairs brought to the nations attention constantly. brough is involved in sleaze and he gets preselected, bill heffernan has made libellous slurs and he is still there. abetz has been so long in the mud and sleaze that it should have drowned him by now.

    you know what? i’m sick of labor letting the opposition off all the time, if we want to clean up politics these grubs should be held accountable for their actions and not allowed political protection. we always have the media headlines, the huge dramatics and then it never goes anywhere, because they both shelter and protect their own and give only themselves the power to do so. according to people like john howard it’s anything goes for politicians, no rules and no accountability or punishment, it’s only an election they have to worry about and then they get to retire as ’eminent citizens’ to live off the taxpayer for the rest of their lives.

    i’m so sick and tired of the personal muckraking and dirt, i don’t care about their personal lives or what they did years ago, just do your jobs. how about some political debate on policies and what the opposition will deliver as an alternative government not sexism, character attacks and bedroom gossip. no wonder people are angry, it’s pathetic what we get served up as politics. i blame our politicians for importing the crazy dumb politics of the us over here. we are the ones let down and badly served.

  418. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 9, 2012 6:29 pm

    Do you not think there should be some answers given……you know…..something better than “I was young and naive”?

    no, i really don’t fkn care, it’s a fake debate, attacking her on her past sexual relationships etc, it’s sexism and misogyny not very well disguised.

  419. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 9, 2012 6:59 pm

    Do you not think there should be some answers given……you know…..something better than “I was young and naive”?

    you’ve got a cheek even asking that question when tony abbott has spent the last couple of years avoiding any questions or facing real scrutiny, he’s “tony abbott – the man who runs”. the presser outside parliament with the friendlies and then literally walking away when he doesn’t want to answer difficult questions. julia gillard faces up and fronts the media and stays until all the questions are asked and answered, she has a political courage and resilience that abbott lacks.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/abbott-steers-away-from-the-media/story-e6frerdf-1226405820225

    …Abbott very rarely fronts a full news conference in Canberra, preferring to do “doorstops” at staged events outside Parliament House. These are at a place where the Opposition Leader can run a line on the carbon tax and then take a few questions.

    There are not many – he will cut the session short by just walking away if questioning turns to things he doesn’t want to talk about…

    …As well as not fronting major news conferences, Abbott avoids longer-form interviews…

    …Prime Minister Julia Gillard does at least give news conferences in Canberra when she takes questions until the reporters run dry, and she will appear on shows such as Lateline, Four Corners (to her regret) and the hour-long Q&A.

    Usually you learn something about Gillard when she subjects herself to this form of questioning – for better or for worse, as far as she’s concerned.

    It should be a serious concern that the man who wants to be prime minister and, the polls say, is short odds to achieve that goal, doesn’t give longer, searching interviews…

  420. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 9, 2012 7:03 pm

  421. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2012 7:21 pm

    Hey Dad star arrested on child sex charges…

    FMD! How long has that taken!

  422. Au 4 Au permalink
    August 9, 2012 7:34 pm

    did someone say another gold medal oi oi oi

  423. el gordo permalink
    August 9, 2012 7:44 pm

    Politicians of all persuasions are pathetic.

  424. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2012 8:05 pm

    Note: There is a move to take the country back to 1890’s before the Shearer’s Strikes and when The Robber Baron’s ruled supreme …

    A concentrated “effort” to disparage ALL unions will give The Robber Barons the opportunity to exploit workers as they do in the USA today …

    … Howes et al do no-one any favours IMO … but it’s up to the ALP “statesmen” to rally (rail?) against the slow bacteria of the NSW right …

  425. James of North Melbourne permalink
    August 9, 2012 8:34 pm

    Kittylitter, it’s not about the sexual relationship but about what she did, both as a professional and a lover, for and against her clients. And it is further about how that reflects on her standards and the standards she expects of her parliamentarians.

    But your responses say plenty.

    In other news, Mr Wicks has found an ALP member who agrees with him. Go figure.

  426. el gordo permalink
    August 9, 2012 8:49 pm

    An off duty policeman driving near Silbury in the UK saw three tall blonde men in a field and he approached them out of curiosity.

    When they spotted him he said; “They ran faster than any man I have ever seen. I’m no slouch but they were moving so fast. I looked away for a second and when I looked back they were gone.”

    Faster than a speeding Bolt…. we need the name of their coach.

  427. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2012 8:51 pm

    The gospel according to, St James, again, I see …

    The world don’t revolve around your universe, James … so solly!

    Fancy having to say give me the PROOF of your ramblings … to a wannabe lawyer … 🙄

    You bring it on yerself, mate …

  428. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2012 8:52 pm

    They ran faster than any man I have ever seen …

    Lol! egg, worry not they are safe and well … they send thanks for your concern … :mrgreen:

  429. el gordo permalink
    August 9, 2012 9:15 pm

    Thanx TB…its a bit of a worry, the copper said there was a lot of crackling static and they left behind a crop circle. Just another encounter of the third kind or perhaps a poltergeist?

  430. James of North Melbourne permalink
    August 9, 2012 9:21 pm

    Oh sorry TB….

    *Alleged

    FFS

  431. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 9, 2012 10:43 pm

    The stench of Gillard’s shady past just won’t go away. The “young & naive” description (for a mid 30s career woman) looks more ridiculous every day.
    ———————————
    Another “exclusive from Wicks??!

  432. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2012 8:49 am

    Oh sorry TB….

    *Alleged FFS

    LOL! Just havin’ some fun wif yer, James 😉

  433. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2012 10:27 am

    This has some real potential … very clever stuff …

  434. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 10, 2012 11:29 am

    Our Aussies (OI!OIOI!!!) are now sitting 10th on the gold table, way in front of Kiwis, cheese eaters and a range of uncouth current and former commies!

    More importantly, we’re 6th on the silver table (with is nice because I think gold is crass when worn by men as an adornment around their necks). Aussies are 7th on the table for total medals!!

    As always Our Aussies are TRIUMPHANT!!

    OI!!

  435. public toilet permalink
    August 10, 2012 1:16 pm

    We can be so proud of their dignified Olympic reactions.

  436. August 10, 2012 3:54 pm

    I`m not really a fan of the Limpdicks either. I find it very wasteful that Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney chew through so much taxpayer cash in the Limpdicks bidding. That cash should be put to better use.

  437. August 10, 2012 4:39 pm

    Amen to that!

    As I always say…FUCK THE OLYMPICS…

  438. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2012 5:36 pm

    As I always say…FUCK THE OLYMPICS…

    But you say that aboput anything, HD! 🙄

  439. el gordo permalink
    August 10, 2012 7:10 pm

    The olympics should be commercialised… a free enterprise game where good prospects are discovered anywhere in the world by scouts, who turn the hopeful into a champion.

    A lucrative investment picking winners.

    Countries would have no part to play, except in the staging.

  440. el gordo permalink
    August 10, 2012 7:18 pm

    You may have heard of a recent genetic breakthrough, they can now tell if a person has any chance of sporting brilliance. The scout can minimise his financial risk considerably.

    Shades of Gatica

  441. August 10, 2012 7:32 pm

    You have my support there el gordo. That would get the Limpdicks off the taxpayer teat. I would suggest drop the drug testing. Make the Limpdicks `drug-enhanced` .. give the drug-scientists Medals too.

  442. el gordo permalink
    August 10, 2012 7:43 pm

    That’s funny 730.

    At the moment the bureaucratic structure is enormous and it will be hard to dismantle, but if the world slips into financially lean times it offers hope for change.

  443. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2012 8:04 pm

    The olympics should be commercialised

    How originalised … egg … irony becomes you .. and 307 it seems … 🙂

  444. James of North Melbourne permalink
    August 10, 2012 9:46 pm

    Men’s 470. Tick!!

    OI!!!

  445. Go Ky! permalink
    August 10, 2012 9:54 pm

    If Ky Hurst could win this open water swim, we (Aussie, Oi!) would shoot up to seventh on the gold table! 😯

  446. August 10, 2012 9:57 pm

    But you say that aboput anything, HD!

    Not true.

    Simply not true.

  447. James of North Melbourne permalink
    August 10, 2012 10:01 pm

    Back the girls in the match racing. Toilet will be gutted! OI!!

  448. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 10, 2012 10:01 pm

    Yachting, I love it!!! (oi)

    It’s a marvellous sport, the way you use a yacht and sail, around and around.

    Apparently it involves water.

    (oi)

  449. Hobby Katz permalink
    August 10, 2012 10:05 pm

    If “elite” “sports” “funding” was distributed according to gold medals won at the most recent olympics, then sailing would get 43% of the cash. That’s about $129 million of the $300,000,000 the Gillard government has wasted squandered invested. Sancty would probably scam earn himself a decent yacht out of that.

  450. F U Demetriou permalink
    August 10, 2012 10:26 pm

    Ky Hurst is a nancy boy.

    (Are you even allowed to say that now?)

  451. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 10, 2012 11:01 pm

    This fine sport doesn’t seem to get enough tv coverage

  452. JAWS permalink
    August 11, 2012 12:01 am

    I forgot to add Toilet that my image of you in a Grim Reaper outfit also includes you surrounded by wall mounted black and white photos of the grave headstones of successful australian sports stars

  453. JAWS permalink
    August 11, 2012 12:03 am

    Go girls. Penalties are of no consequence to our sailing gals

  454. August 12, 2012 5:30 pm

    The enormous bureaucratic structure at the Lodnon Limpdicks didn`t prevent Boris from handing out a bunch of medals to bogans though, did it? .. Le Gordo

  455. el gordo permalink
    August 12, 2012 5:52 pm

    ‘…didn`t prevent Boris from handing out a bunch of medals to bogans though…

    You’ll have to elaborate.

  456. TB Queensland permalink
    August 12, 2012 5:55 pm

    There are a couple of new sports being considered for the 2020 Limpdicks … some are already practicing … this is one of my favourites …

  457. TB Queensland permalink
    August 12, 2012 6:51 pm

    I love “gettin’ yer own back” jokes … apologies to my “copper” friends … but I’ve see/heard them laugh at worse .. 😉

    The Booze Bus…!!

    Two indigenous Australians were driving their old
    EH HOLDEN in the outback recently, when off in the distance they saw a police “booze bus”.

    Rather than trying to avoid it, the driver headed straight for it. As they pulled up, the driver wound his window down and said ‘G’day, brudder! Two cans of Emu Export, thanks!’

    The copper glared at him and said ‘You must be drunk!
    Get out of the car and blow into this tube!’

    The driver said ‘Sorry boss, I can’t blow in that,
    I got a letter from the doctor saying I’m asthmatic
    And I’ll pass out if I blow in that.’

    The cop smirked and said ‘OK – in that case,
    We require you to give a blood sample.’

    ‘Nah, nah – sorry, boss,’ replied the driver.
    ‘Can’t be doin’ that. Got a letter from the Red Cross sayin’ I’m a haemophiliac, and I could bleed to death if I gavea blood sample.
    Sorry, boss, can’t do that!’
    By now the copper was getting very irate, and so he demanded that the driver provide a urine sample for testing.

    The driver shook his head and said
    ‘Sorry boss, can’t do that either.’

    The copper protested ‘Surely you haven’t got a letter for that!!!’

    ‘Bloody oath, mate!’ says the driver,
    ‘It’s from Julia Gillard, the Prime Minister of this lovely
    Country of Australia – she’s apologised, and says that
    You whitefellas can’t take the piss out of us blackfellas no more! blockquote>

  458. August 12, 2012 7:44 pm

    “..have to elaborate..“ Le Gordo

    Rowing. As a nation terrified of boat-people,
    Wouldn`t giving bogans boats and oars make the ancient Greeks
    turn over in their graves?
    I suspect the `Ancients` would not be so pleased with these
    cashed-up bogans `sailing` in their name either.

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