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Tony Abbott Misled Parliament!

August 30, 2012

Federal Opposition Leader Tony Abbott stands accused of misleading Parliament after he declared that the reason BHP wre scrapping a large mining project was due to the Government’s mining tax.

BHP stated that the mining tax payed no bearing on its decision.

In a bizarre twist, Mr Abbott accused Prime Minister Julia Gillard of falsely claiming he hadn’t read BHP’s statement.

Last week, BHP Billiton announced it would be delaying a planned expansion of the Olympic Dam mine in South Australia.

Mr Abbott quickly blamed the carbon and mining taxes for the decision but in a statement BHP Billiton said commercial factors were to blame.

When quizzed on ABC television’s 7.30 program about the apparent contradiction, Mr Abbott appeared to say he hadn’t read the statement, prompting the federal government to accuse him of running a dishonest fear campaign.

In a letter to the Speaker of the House of Representatives Peter Slipper, Labor’s Anthony Albanese questioned whether Mr Abbott misled parliament and thus stands in contempt of the House.

“An abuse of this privilege by a Member of Parliament shows the utmost contempt for our Westminster system and for our democratic institutions,” he wrote.

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64 Comments leave one →
  1. Meta permalink
    August 30, 2012 12:36 pm

    (The idea of butGojira effects in glass Diets wais made to be broken.)

  2. Meta permalink
    August 30, 2012 1:13 pm

    (“…the point we were making yesterday was that the Coalition had no policy.”)

  3. August 30, 2012 1:31 pm

    Yes, but he’s a c*nt, so what did you expect?

  4. August 30, 2012 2:31 pm

    Suck on this, Abbottlickers & anti-AGW zealots alike! Your hood ornament is full of equivocation & even goes so far as to betray you by agreeing , in no uncertain terms, that “Climate change is real. Mankind contributes to it. It’s important to have a strong and effective policy to limit carbon dioxide emissions…”.

    From the mouth of the man himself!

    From Meta’s link…

    ” QUESTION:

    You and Ms Bishop have said very different things about nuclear power. Does the Liberal Party have a position on nuclear power or doesn’t it?

    TONY ABBOTT:

    We have no policy to introduce nuclear power in this country.

    QUESTION:

    Just back to climate change, do you believe carbon dioxide is a major contributor [inaudible] global warming?

    TONY ABBOTT:

    Climate change is real. Mankind contributes to it. It’s important to have a strong and effective policy to limit carbon dioxide emissions and that’s what the Coalition has.

    QUESTION:

    And in your opinion, I mean, do you think the planet’s warming [inaudible]?

    TONY ABBOTT:

    This debate is not about climate change. The debate is about how to deal with it. Climate change does happen, is happening, it’s important that we deal with it the right way…”

  5. TB Queensland permalink
    August 30, 2012 2:54 pm

    Tony Abbott, lies, FFS! How come people are only just noticing that?

    TONY JONES: When did you last see Archbishop Pell?

    TONY ABBOTT: I haven’t seen the Archbishop in weeks …

    TONY JONES: But didn’t you have a meeting with Archbishop Pell only two days ago …

    TONY ABBOTT: No

    TONY JONES: But we have witnesses that saw you …

    TONY ABBOTT: …oh, yes … I did go to see him … but it wasn’t a meeting as such …

    🙄

  6. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 30, 2012 3:27 pm

    It’s great to see the ALP claim the moral high ground on political honesty!

  7. Ol' Sancty permalink
    August 30, 2012 3:31 pm

    There was at the time, and remains so though to a slightly lesser extent, an element of political suicide in expressing doubt about the religion of anthropogenic global warming.

    I accept Abbott’s political lie there although I would like to think that were I in the same position I would state outright that I am a heretic.

  8. el gordo permalink
    August 30, 2012 4:06 pm

    Abbott is hopeless, particularly on climate change, the Denialati despair that we have so much palpable ignorance in parliament.

  9. Ol' Sancty permalink
    August 30, 2012 4:13 pm

    Dunno, Gordo. I’ve had reason to attend a good number of community meetings over the last few years and almost from the outset one of the first things the elected representative is forced to do (or otherwise) is to reaffirm their belief in anthropogenic global warming. It’s always one of the first issues raised by some hairy armpitted preacher.

    It’s almost like the new Lord’s Prayer.

  10. el gordo permalink
    August 30, 2012 4:17 pm

    ‘…in the same position I would state outright that I am a heretic.’

    If tabit did that… he would be applauded and get a huge bounce in the polls. He’s had discussions with Delingpole and Plimer, but lacks the bottle to take the initiative on CC.

  11. el gordo permalink
    August 30, 2012 4:21 pm

    ‘It’s almost like the new Lord’s Prayer.’

    It takes courage to stand up to the Klimatariat, yet he fails to act. Is it because he has a wife and three daughters who have been brainwashed into the faith?

  12. TB Queensland permalink
    August 30, 2012 4:25 pm

    I would state outright that I am a heretic. That’ll give you diarrhoea every time, James … both ends, too … 😆

    **** quadruple sarc and satire alert 😉

  13. Ol' Sancty permalink
    August 30, 2012 4:33 pm

    Gordo, I think he’s busting to say it. I’m not sure it’s the family so much as the Party. Keeping the focus off themselves.

    Just watch if he gets into power…..Direct Action will be delayed in the interests of balancing the budget.

  14. August 30, 2012 4:46 pm

    You mean he’s lying, just to get into power & then he’s going to do something else! 😯

    After the way you lot have carried on about Julia’s “no carbon tax” statements, I’d expect outrage from y’all if Abbott was to prove to be as dishonest! But I think we know that won’t happen, because you’re already excusing his dishonesty (above) as it suits your own paradigm. Not so different from an ALP apologist at all, apparently.

    Willing to sell out integrity for your own ends.

  15. JAWS permalink
    August 30, 2012 4:55 pm

    “I’ve had reason to attend a good number of community meetings over the last few years and almost from the outset one of the first things the elected representative is forced to do……………..”

    James that is EXACTLY what happened when I went to an quarterly strata owners meeting last February for an investment property in a block of 16 Mrs Jaws has in her name.

    I attended as proxy (having missed the quarter before) and was greeted with some anxious faces and smiles from some of the more senior residents.

    I was slightly late and found the meeting’s agenda being totally overridden by a bunch of 4 young café latte devotees (who had got together earlier) and who wanted to talk AGW and about how to spend some of the working fund on eco friendly crap amounting to some 4 thousand bucks.

    They said it was illegal if we didn’t

    Well I couldn’t help myself and with the Strata Titles(NSW) Act in my hand demanded they tell us exactly what section they were quoting from.

    They couldn’t whereupon I told them they should be damn well ashamed of themselves to stop talking bullshit to other residents.

    They don’t like me now apparently

  16. August 30, 2012 5:04 pm

    I have no problem with people coming out & declaring their intentions honestly. I suspect, as you do, that Abbott really does think that AGW is bunk. I also agree that the reason he is not saying this is that he knows that it would do tremendous political damage to his chances of election if he were to do so.
    So, with that in mind, it makes his lying even harder to stomach. He is being misrepresentative, all of the unsavoury things you’ve accused Gillard of being.

    You’ve established precedents for what is acceptable. Or are they just convenient to bash an ALP PM?…& easily ignored if it’s Abbott at the helm?
    I can picture the semantic games now, coming out & splitting hairs in his defence after his election.

    I will be watching.

  17. Ol' Sancty permalink
    August 30, 2012 5:05 pm

    Not entirely, Toilet. There are elements of the Direct Action plan that have sundry benefits and can be done relatively inexpensively. I imagine they’ll implement a few of those, enough to keep a semblance of a promise, but in the end the thing will die a death.

  18. Ol' Sancty permalink
    August 30, 2012 5:09 pm

    I also think there’s a difference between doing something you promised you wouldn’t do, and “delaying” the implementation or delivery of a promise. Call it core and non-core.

    But, yes, I would love for Abbott to get up and say something like “The science is up in the air, we’ll take modest action to clean up our processes but we won’t be throwing the baby out with the bathwater”.

  19. August 30, 2012 5:10 pm

    A semblance of a promise, is it? I see the semantics have already begun preemptively! 😆

    Partisan standards…exhibit A…”I accept Abbott’s political lie” !

    I’m not going to bother right now, but I think you know I wouldn’t have too much trouble tracking down a corresponding quote from you with regard to your outrage at Gillard’s broken word?

  20. JAWS permalink
    August 30, 2012 5:11 pm

    The $10 Billion Green Fund thingy currently being funded by the Carbon Tax is the biggest Direct Action Plan anyone has ever seen here. And its here to stay (being “Abbott Proofed”)

    Abbott will just allow it to keep going and fund his promises based on Christine Milne’s fantasies

    That’ll wipe that smug f**king smile off her face.

  21. August 30, 2012 5:13 pm

    “I would love for Abbott to get up and say something like “The science is up in the air, we’ll take modest action to clean up our processes but we won’t be throwing the baby out with the bathwater”.”

    But we know he is far too cowardly, manipulative, opportunistic, dishonest, politically expedient shrewd to do that, don’t we?! Yes, we do.

    Just as bad as ALP apologists. The benefit of the doubt only goes in one direction for the aligned of either stripe.

  22. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 30, 2012 5:14 pm

    In a letter to the Speaker of the House of Representatives Peter Slipper, Labor’s Anthony Albanese questioned whether Mr Abbott misled parliament and thus stands in contempt of the House.”

    And this is the reason why Gillard did her Press conference about her time at Slater and Gordon out side parliament

  23. August 30, 2012 5:16 pm

    Basically, you’ve just confirmed that he is indeed ‘loose with the truth’. Something you weren’t comfortable for Leigh Sales to put to him…even though it’s a certifiable part of his m.o. that you personally identify with.

  24. August 30, 2012 5:18 pm

    So, Kneel, no comment on the duplicity of Abbott?

    Note, he’s being a bit disingenuous about his stance on AGW. At least, some of his boosters think he is. Where do you stand?

  25. August 30, 2012 5:20 pm

    For, Kneel…

    du·plic·i·ty
       [doo-plis-i-tee, dyoo-] Show IPA
    noun, plural du·plic·i·ties for 2, 3.
    1.
    deceitfulness in speech or conduct, as by speaking or acting in two different ways to different people concerning the same matter; double-dealing. Synonyms: deceit, deception, dissimulation, fraud, guile, hypocrisy, trickery. Antonyms: candidness, directness, honesty, straightforwardness.
    2.
    an act or instance of such deceitfulness.
    3.
    Law . the act or fact of including two or more offenses in one count, or charge, as part of an indictment, thus violating the requirement that each count contain only a single offense.
    4.
    the state or quality of having two elements or parts; being twofold or double.

  26. el gordo permalink
    August 30, 2012 5:46 pm

    Tony Abbott is ambiguous on AGW and over the past few years he has blown hot and cold on the subject. Big mistake, the science is the key to clarify the situation and he sits on the fence…lacking the integrity of a statesman.

    Pathetic.

  27. August 30, 2012 5:48 pm

    I can respect your response, el gordo. It is an honest response.

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    August 30, 2012 6:20 pm

    G’day, HD, I see you’re still looking for the diamond in the shitpile … or maybe one of them Liberal Party Crack’d Crystal Balls …

    I agree with every post you’ve put up since I last posted …

    If I could just add …

    hyypocrisy

    the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case

    Oxford Dictionary

  29. TB Queensland permalink
    August 30, 2012 6:21 pm

    My typo — hypocrisy — (The Oxford does NOT make suffer typos … )

  30. August 30, 2012 6:26 pm

    I will be watching.

    They are on notice.

    It doesn’t pay to paint yourself into a corner.

  31. JAWS permalink
    August 30, 2012 6:32 pm

    “I will be watching.

    They are on notice.”

    Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh…………….Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !

    Not again

    Get me a Mop !

  32. el gordo permalink
    August 30, 2012 6:35 pm

    Our power bills have been coming in and everyone is shocked, anywhere up to three times higher than this time last year. My neighbour is housing a couple of mainland Chinese and another couple of tearaways from western Sydney, is turning the power off during the days.

    Can’t talk now…they just arrived for a free meal.

  33. August 30, 2012 6:41 pm

    No need to sop up the urine puddles just yet, IATJAWS!

    I’m no arbiter, just a harbinger of magnification for the words of the willfully self-unaware. 😉

    I don’t necessarily disagree with plenty of the criticisms registered against GillardCorp. I just think a lot of it stems from partisan whimsy…& the congruence will be stark when Abbott gets in.

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    August 30, 2012 6:42 pm

    … an investment property in a block of 16 Mrs Jaws has in her name.

    I’m not a property fan (been stung twice now by tenants – one I even knew personally) … anyhoo, my daughter and her husband have just bought their first investment property – duplex … (mainly for negative gearing) …

    After many fights with her over investment properties … including suggesting waiting for her hubby to get back to Oz (he returns in four weeks) … we sent her an email (remember, she’s our neighbour!) simply because whenever we “discussed” it blew up into a shitfight …

    So she just bought it … and came over to tell us … such a good buy … FMD the thing is clad in fibro (asbestos cement!) … a point I made as a negative more than once …

    Anyway, I’ve just told her our relationship is far more important than a few hundred thousand bucks!

    And it is!

    (… and at least I won’t have to bail ’em out …)

  35. TB Queensland permalink
    August 30, 2012 6:44 pm

    Our power bills have been coming in and everyone is shocked, anywhere up to three times higher than this time last year

    My son picked the g/kids up this arvo … told me he’s making between $5 and $10 a DAY with his new solar system … looking forward to his first cheque …

  36. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 30, 2012 8:00 pm

    Note, he’s being a bit disingenuous about his stance on AGW. At least, some of his boosters think he is. Where do you stand?”

    Could say lots of things. It is a bit stupid to expect politicians to have a position on something they have no expertise in. I mean why not ask Gillard her opinion on quantum chemistry??

    It appears that ALP politicians tend to follow what the CSIRO says. However Coalition politicians tend to be skeptical about AGW and CSIRO scientists.

    It looks like Abbott is sitting right on the fence. He could be right to say that humans are altering the climate because we could have an effect. The question is are our activities going to change the temperature by say 2-4C or 0.000002-0.000004C

    My own opinion is that since the ALP believes in AGW that is all the evidence I need that it is a load of crap.

  37. August 30, 2012 8:31 pm

    How very retarded of you beholden you are.

    * Kneel, must try harder.

  38. August 30, 2012 8:33 pm

    I meant, where do you stand on whether or not it’s alright for an ALP PM to be disingenuous as opposed to a LibNat PM. I imagine that, deep down, you know that your answer would be rather illustrative, thus you will skirt around an answer; as you did above.

    Congratulations for living up to expectations!

  39. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 30, 2012 8:37 pm

    Well Toilet I would suspect that Abbott has no idea whether AGW is true or not.

    So he will say the thing that is politically as neutral as possible to try and limit any flow of votes away from the Coalition.

  40. Changing electoral climate permalink
    August 30, 2012 8:41 pm

    Mr Abbott is on record saying climate change is crap. He’s also on record saying it’s real. I choose Mr Abbott the first. 😯

  41. August 30, 2012 8:52 pm

    Excellent non answer, Neil. Masterful evasion! Almost, but not quite as nimble as Abootlicker Brother No.#1 snacty!

  42. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 30, 2012 8:54 pm

    What is the question???

  43. August 30, 2012 8:59 pm

    So, Kneel, no comment on the duplicity of Abbott? Asin, is it OK for Gillard to lie, but not the Abbott Satan…or, in your case, vice versa??? (???)

    * ?????????

  44. August 30, 2012 9:00 pm

    ” I choose Mr Abbott the first.”

    So, you choose the disingenuous one who is recently on the record as stating the absolute opposite of what you believe?

    How quaint and debased. 😉

  45. el gordo permalink
    August 30, 2012 9:01 pm

    TB some of the locals complaining the most about the energy price hike, are already setup with solar and are spitting chips….

  46. Watch out permalink
    August 30, 2012 9:03 pm

    Don’t answer, Neil. It’s a trap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  47. Free radical permalink
    August 30, 2012 9:06 pm

    “So, you choose the disingenuous one who is recently on the record as stating the absolute opposite of what you believe?”

    They all state the opposite of what I believe. I’m an extremist, apparently.

  48. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 30, 2012 9:09 pm

    Still do not get what your question is. I have no idea what Abbott believes about AGW in his heart.

  49. el gordo permalink
    August 30, 2012 9:11 pm

    ‘So he will say the thing that is politically as neutral as possible to try and limit any flow of votes away from the Coalition.’

    Tabit is either a bloody idiot or he’s being disingenuous. Joyce and Minchin have both spoken to him on AGW, but apparently his head’s in a bucket of sand and he refuses to take good advice.

  50. August 30, 2012 9:13 pm

    That makes two of us, apparently.

    Honesty is the best policy for the maintenance of credibility.

    None of them care about that, apparently.

    Gues why?

    Could it be because they know that their respective adherents are set to always give them a free pass? 😯

    I say, let them be honest & then people can make their choices accordingly…& let the subsequent chips fall where they may.
    Isn’t that t5he true intention of the democratic principle?! Not the compromised abortion of an idea which we get when they are allowed to hide their intentions in couched language & slippery facades?

    It shits me. There can be no real consensus while the general population is being bullshitted to. There’s no question that both sides do it.

  51. August 30, 2012 9:15 pm

    ” I have no idea what Abbott believes about AGW in his heart.”

    And yet, somehow your fellow travellers know precisely what Gillard believes in her heart?

    A pattern is emerging.

    It ain’t rocket science.

  52. August 30, 2012 9:16 pm

    Comment @ 9:13 in response to Yony @ 9:06.

  53. el gordo permalink
    August 30, 2012 9:16 pm

    Thankfully the general public can read between the lines and the quick grabs on TV news.

    Nether Joolya or Abbott are fit to be PM.

  54. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 30, 2012 9:23 pm

    Well I do believe that Abbott believes the Carbon and Mining taxes are bad for Australia.

  55. August 30, 2012 9:34 pm

    You’ve learned your lines well, Neil.

    Now, if you could only learn to read between them.

  56. el gordo permalink
    August 30, 2012 9:35 pm

    On economic grounds the carbon tax is bad, but its the humiliation of accepting a theory on CC and running with it as policy is appalling. No due diligence, haven’t looked at the science.

  57. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 30, 2012 9:49 pm

    Still not totally sure what the question is but I agree with one thing you are trying to say. Peoples opinion of what is right or wrong depends on who is in power. This occurs much more for ALP supporters in my opinion.

    Labor has just cut a Howard govt dental scheme to save money and help get that long hoped for budget surplus. If a Conservative govt cut this dental scheme they would be called mean and nasty by ALP supporters.

    Labor now has more than 6,000 asylum seekers locked up. An Australian record. There would be riots in the street if a Howard govt did this.

  58. August 30, 2012 10:00 pm

    I agree with a couple of your points, in principle…

    “Labor now has more than 6,000 asylum seekers locked up. An Australian record. There would be riots in the street if a Howard govt did this.”

    And…

    “Peoples opinion of what is right or wrong depends on who is in power. ”

    But this is subjective…

    “This occurs much more for ALP supporters in my opinion.”

    I still think you’re dodging the point. I’d like to think you’re doing it deliberately, because the alternative is that you’re a bit thick…& I’ve neve thought that you are before. Obstinate, perhaps, but not dense.

  59. James of North Melbourne permalink
    August 30, 2012 10:08 pm

    I have never licked a boot in my life (outside of certain establishments).

  60. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 30, 2012 10:09 pm

    because the alternative is that you’re a bit thick

    WEll it looks like I am a bit thick. But i will have a go at what I think you are trying to say about Abbott.

    Abbott does not believe in AGW but he lies about this to the Australian people. He makes out he really believes but he does not believe.

    Is this correct???

  61. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    August 31, 2012 6:37 am

    A particular comic always comes to mind when I think of the devout AGW followers…

    http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=761

  62. August 31, 2012 8:53 am

    * Pretty much, Neil.

    * Who said anything about ‘boots’ ? 😉 [just yanking the chain, james]

  63. TB Queensland permalink
    August 31, 2012 12:44 pm

    I have never licked a boot in my life (outside of certain establishments).

    Only inside certain establishments? 😛

  64. September 1, 2012 9:04 am

    When quizzed on ABC television’s 7.30 program about the apparent contradiction, Mr Abbott appeared to say he hadn’t read the statement, prompting the federal government to accuse him of running a dishonest fear campaign. @post

    We are pleased to see the blogger-verse is largely happy with our new policy at my ABC news and current affairs. No longer will viewers be subjected to Mr-Rabbit receiving `cotton-wool` interviews. From now on, Mr-Rabbit will be interviewed from Ultimo, and Holt Street will just have to suck it up.

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