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September 15, 2012

Here is a plain pack vanilla edition of Rostrum as I can’t think of anything to be disgusted with ( at the moment )…

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  1. September 15, 2012 9:40 am

    “Dear Muslims, Christians, Hindus, and Jews, You’re living in the age of the Internet. Your religion will be mocked, and the mockery will find its way to you. Get over it. ”

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/human_nature/2012/09/mohammed_movie_embassy_attacks_don_t_let_internet_videos_drive_you_to_violence_.html

  2. September 15, 2012 11:46 am

    Amen!

    They take their fairy tales far too seriously, methinks. Way too personally invested in their institutionalised fantasylands to be able to tolerate their zany belief systems being ridiculed.

    They’re worse than royals, just.

  3. September 15, 2012 11:47 am

    Go you fkn West Coast Eagles!!!

  4. September 15, 2012 11:49 am

    “They take their fairy tales far too seriously, methinks”

    They all do I think. Although there does seem to be a correlation between poverty and a propensity to believe in religious skywizardry…

    Maybe those who can afford an education are more likely to question the bullshit?

  5. September 15, 2012 12:00 pm

    I’d say that it’s almost certain that a good education is a gateway away from religious indoctrination.
    A reasonable understanding of the world casts light upon the disparities between fantasy & reality.
    Ignorance is a great petrie dish for religion to propagate itself in.

  6. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 1:40 pm

    ‘Dear Muslims, Christians, Hindus, and Jews’

    Too right! I’m just about fed up with all the violence from Presbyterians every time someone criticises John Calvin.

  7. September 15, 2012 2:25 pm

    Doesn’t matter if it’s Calvin, Mohammed, Smith or Tiboor…they’re all grounded in the same fabrications.

    But yeah, the violence is a good opportunity for ideologues like iowahawk to go in for a bit of moosie bashing & christ promoting.

  8. el gordo permalink
    September 15, 2012 2:26 pm

    Muslim fundamentalists are boorish and possibly dangerous.

  9. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 2:41 pm

    ‘moosie bashing’

    Guffaw!

  10. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 2:56 pm

    A map of Muslim protests around the world.

  11. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 15, 2012 5:09 pm

    ”Go you fkn West Coast Eagles!!!

    This is misdirected, and demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the intricacies of football.

    The Eagles are a false club, a corporate creation, supported by the most bitter and isolated people on the planet. These are the people who consider Subiaco and Northbridge sophisticated. Bizarre and unbelievable to those of us on the civilized side of the country.

    While Collingwood supporters are mainly abusive bigots, and the club is now owned by corporate silver tails, it is not a corporate creation.

    Therefore Collingwood is marginally preferred over the Eagles.

  12. public toilet permalink
    September 15, 2012 5:25 pm

    I’m glad YouTube isn’t removing it too.

    But I can still recognise their ‘our god is better than your god’ pissing contest. 😉

  13. public toilet permalink
    September 15, 2012 5:26 pm

    Anyone but Collingwood…

  14. James of North Melbourne permalink
    September 15, 2012 5:41 pm

    Four out of the five remaining clubs have a misplaced sense of entitlement.

    GO BLOODS!!!

  15. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 6:05 pm

    Better add Sydney to that map . . .

    Sydney protesters call for beheadings

    In Sydney, shoppers looked on in surprise as protesters, including children, shouted “Down, down USA” and waved banners such as “Behead all those who insult the prophet”.

    “We are sick and tired of everyone mocking our beloved prophet,” protester Houda Dib said, as the crowd of about 500 gathered outside the US consulate.

    “They have no right to mock our prophet. We don’t go around mocking anyone’s religion.”

    “They call us the terrorists,” protester Sarah Jacob said. “But everyone is terrorising our people.”

  16. September 15, 2012 6:05 pm

    Interesting reading…

    (Not suitable for the office)

    “I’M A HOMO BUT I LOVED HAVING SEX WITH THIS ROBOTIC PUSSY”

    http://www.vice.com/read/im-a-homo-but-i-loved-having-sex-with-this-robotic-pussy

  17. September 15, 2012 6:34 pm

    Breaking News!

    I’ve changed my mind about teh Muslims who want to change our way of life They call all just fuck off. Especially after seeing the pic of a child in this image holding a banner saying
    “Behead all those who insult the prophet” .

    http://www.news.com.au/national/police-use-pepper-spray-on-anti-islamic-film-protesters-in-sydney-at-the-us-consulate/story-fndo4bst-1226474744811

  18. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 6:43 pm

    “The White House asked YouTube to review the video to see if it was in compliance with their terms of use,” White House press secretary Jay Carney told POLITICO in an email. The White House said it reached out to YouTube on Tuesday.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81245.html#ixzz26WfSHaqH

    “reached out” 🙄 Who are these people?

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    September 15, 2012 7:32 pm

    What a sad world a few wishful people have made!

  20. James of North Melbourne permalink
    September 15, 2012 7:51 pm

    Case for the State to remove the kid from that violent family I would think.

  21. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 8:08 pm

    As a free-speech extremist I do not object to mere signs, no matter how “offensive”. (I do reserve the right to ridicule parents adults mature people persons of a more advenced age that would put them in the hands of unsuspecting children.)

    It is the actual violence perpetrated by these groups – claiming to be offended by others’ speech – to which I object.

  22. James of North Melbourne permalink
    September 15, 2012 8:52 pm

    I reckon incitement to violence is illegal, regardless of free speech. Anyone else using their kids to commit a crime would get it. I’m not necessarily advocating permanent removal but a line should be drawn. This country has laws and that conduct is incompatible with those laws and that has consequences.

    I worry sometimes that our tolerance will be our downfall.

  23. el gordo permalink
    September 15, 2012 8:52 pm

    More on the film producer…

    http://old-news.co.uk/category/guardian/

  24. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 8:57 pm

    ‘I reckon incitement to violence is illegal’

    I think you’re right about that, however the incitement occurred earlier. The signs were just attention-seeking accessories to the violent rampages.

  25. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 9:06 pm

    You would need to prove someone committed an act of violence as a result of reading a particular sign to support a charge of incitement. On the other hand, a preacher instructing a devout member of his congregation to rebel violently against a blasphemer might be a proveable case.

  26. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 9:08 pm

    *to support such a charge of incitement

  27. James of North Melbourne permalink
    September 15, 2012 9:19 pm

    No, Tony, the actual commitment of a violent act is not a necessary ingredient to a charge of incitement.

  28. James of North Melbourne permalink
    September 15, 2012 9:22 pm

    S 11.4(1) Federal Criminal Code.

  29. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 9:31 pm

    Okay, I’ll accept your learned advice on that one, James. 😉

    (Then guilt in such a case would come down to whether a magistrate/judge/jury thinks a sign might incite someone, not that it did.)

  30. TB Queensland permalink
    September 15, 2012 9:37 pm

    I would think that the NSW Comunity Services might have a thing or two to say about the parenting “skills” of said child’s parents …

  31. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 9:41 pm

     Section 11.4 – a person who urges the commission of an offence is guilty of the offence of ‘incitement’

    http://www.criminalcle.net.au/attachments/Basics_of_Commonwealth_Crime.pdf

    Hmmm. Probably why those signs were placed in the hands of unindictable minors, then.

  32. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 9:53 pm

    All righty then.

    As a believer in the rule of law and in the principle that all ‘men’ are equal under the law, and now that the particular law applying in this case has been explained to me, I demand that this adult person be arrested and charged with the crime of incitement, forthwith. 😯

  33. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 10:08 pm

    (I suspect if such a case were ever to come before a court we could expext days of legal argument about the meaning of “behead”, and whether or not the word was being used in a metaphorical sense. 😉 )

  34. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 10:23 pm

    Police gas Sydney protesters

    Forget all that stoopid rule of law stuff. According to Fairfax, it’s all the fault of the police. (You know who else used to gas people, don’t you?!)

  35. James of North Melbourne permalink
    September 15, 2012 10:44 pm

    I think a few arrests and a few visits from dhs are in order.

  36. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 10:48 pm

    How’s the leftoid twittersphere on this topic, James? Quiet, I suspect.

  37. Tony permalink
    September 15, 2012 11:00 pm

    I’ve got my suspicions why teh Left supports encourages doesn’t criticise these fucking nutjobs radical Islam. Hint: anti-west and anti-USA.

  38. James of North Melbourne permalink
    September 15, 2012 11:06 pm

    Silent, Tony. It’s all Abbott and the “proof” he assaulted some innocent petite lady.

  39. September 16, 2012 12:57 am

    Fcuk, you’ze are overly paranoid about ‘Teh Left’.

    Radical muslims who commit violent acts are about as conservative & rightwing nutjob religious as a person can get. Have a think about that.
    Then pause to consider that the behaviour of extremists doesn’t represent an entire culture.

    I’m glad that reading Bolt occasionally doesn’t warp my brain into broad spasms; maybe you’ze oughta lay off him for a bit?! 😯

  40. September 16, 2012 12:59 am

    I’ve got my suspicions why teh Right supports encourages doesn’t criticises these fucking nutjobs radical Islam. Hint: pissing contest, my god is better than yours so nyaaah.

  41. September 16, 2012 1:01 am

    I suppose Bin Laden & Ahmadinejad were/are leftists? 😯

    * guffaw

  42. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    September 16, 2012 6:10 am

    Does anybody really believe this is about a video..come on folks..

  43. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 6:27 am

    ‘Then pause to consider that the behaviour of extremists doesn’t represent an entire culture.’

    The behaviour of muslim extremists represents in word and deed – the “entire culture” of muslim extremism, which is the only “culture” being criticised here.

  44. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 6:45 am

    It’s hilarious to see the brave critics of “sky-fairy believers” being all silent while these dark-ages-rooted fundamentalists go on violent rampages.

  45. el gordo permalink
    September 16, 2012 7:25 am

    A Medieval culture goes on a riot because somebody offended their prophet. The entire culture is infected with hate and I respectfully suggest they will never fit into our culture and should be turned back at the border.

    They don’t even drink piss for christ’s sake.

  46. el gordo permalink
    September 16, 2012 7:48 am

    ‘Late in the afternoon a lone man from outside the group shouted: “Shame on you for promoting murder in the name of religion.”

    ‘The crowd swarmed at him attacking him and sparking a second wave of violent clashes with police.

    ‘Police rushed to the man’s aide and dragged him out of the park under a rain of waterbottles, sticks and abuse.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-gas-sydney-protesters-20120915-25yrb.html#ixzz26ZqkHqnn

    That brave man should be allowed to stay, while all the extreme fundamentalists (we know who they are) could be rounded up and sent to Van Diemen’s Land… until they purge themselves of holy thoughts.

  47. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 16, 2012 8:49 am

    I’m going to barrack for the Buddhists. They seem nice.

    Do scientologists behead people? Most of them seem rich, so they probably get someone to do it for them. Scientologists are the Carlton of religions.

  48. September 16, 2012 8:59 am

    The muslims I’ve met in Malaysia seem like nice people and are accepting of other people’s ways of life.

    I wonder why we end up with all the fuckwits here in Australia?

  49. September 16, 2012 9:03 am

    “I’m going to barrack for the Buddhists. They seem nice.”

    The Hare Krishnas are nice too. And they have a nice sideline in vegetarian restaurants too. I had lunch in the one in Swanston Street last week and it only cost $7.50.

    I’m not sure about their taste in music though. It’s sort of like repetitive rap for easy listening.

  50. September 16, 2012 9:05 am

    There should be more beheadings come to think of it.

    You know, for people who wear beige, or those grey vinyl shoes with the zips on the sides…

    You know, genuinely offensive stuff, rather than just making a funny video.

  51. James of North Melbourne permalink
    September 16, 2012 9:13 am

    What worries me is they keep saying they’ll be going to Paradise and I’ll be going to Hell. I looked it up and their Paradise has no beer or red wine. Turns out it’s the same fcking place!!

    What should I do?

  52. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    September 16, 2012 9:29 am

    If only we apologized more…That would do it…It really is baffling that so many “educated” people still want to blame the West. I was surprised to see Sydney in the cross hairs to be honest but your government has been in a real hurry to import as many “non Europeans” as possible in the past 20 years..Seriously, if the West is going to import people can we do so based on who is more likely to assimilate, PLEASE…Not be driven by racial quotas etc..

  53. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 16, 2012 9:31 am

    I’m not fond of sleeve tattoos or Abe Lincoln style beards. But I don’t think I’m at the point of advocating beheading those types.

  54. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 9:40 am

    In what country and in which century do we have a midnight knock at the home of a filmmaker who is escorted to a waiting car by brownshirted officers?

  55. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    September 16, 2012 9:45 am

    Tony,

    I know…it is really in Obama fashion I am afraid…The left are completely convinced that they hate us because of our actions, not who we are and if only we tried to “understand” their hatred more we could all come together and hold hands…So they go after a guy exercising his Constitutional rights…Really pathetic…

  56. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 9:51 am

    I think you’re right, Sparta.

    (And before “someone else” says it: Fox News! Guffaw.) 😉

  57. Tom R permalink
    September 16, 2012 9:59 am

  58. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    September 16, 2012 10:05 am

    Tony,

    I was just getting ready to mention the “battered wife syndrome” as an analogy…

  59. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    September 16, 2012 10:07 am

    Well, we all know it is the crazy Christians out there…They are waiting with jack boots and trench coats in the shadows, just waiting to make their play…LMAO

  60. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    September 16, 2012 10:18 am

    Ok…I realize this is a bit much but still interesting…

  61. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    September 16, 2012 10:29 am

  62. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    September 16, 2012 10:30 am

    Anyway…the point I am making is lets just keep worrying about right wing Christians…

  63. el gordo permalink
    September 16, 2012 10:36 am

    ‘I was surprised to see Sydney in the cross hairs to be honest…’

    Sydney has acquired the bulk of Muslim immigrants and they have settled in places like Lakemba.

    Hopefully the teenage daughters will turn their backs on all this nonsense and move to the north side.

  64. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    September 16, 2012 10:41 am

    “Hopefully the teenage daughters will turn their backs on all this nonsense and move to the north side.”

    Some beautiful women from the Middle East…Lets hope so! LOL

  65. September 16, 2012 11:10 am

    “It’s hilarious to see the brave critics of “sky-fairy believers” being all silent while these dark-ages-rooted fundamentalists go on violent rampages.”

    Radical muslims who commit violent acts are about as conservative & rightwing nutjob religious as a person can get. Have a think about that.

    * not being all silent 🙄

  66. September 16, 2012 11:17 am

    Funny how some have ignored the fact that I’ve repeatedly, over a protracted period, ridiculed all religions. Not just the poor diddums christlickerz; who want to question the legitimacy of other religions but don’t see the same gaping idiocies in their own belief system.

    As if I think that beheadings & rioting over made up shit is reasonable. It stands condemned self evidently. Only the pantswetterz need to shudder about global caliphates & suchlike.

  67. September 16, 2012 11:25 am

    Hilarious!

    Oh NOOOO!!!! They’re TAKING OVER THE WORLD!!!

    What a fucken caricature.

    And more odd laments about the dastardly left. Still haven’t noticed that the very worst of Islam, which y’all like to shake & quiver about, is conservative & rightwing in nature.
    Or, probably, have noticed but ignored because it doesn’t make it into the FoxNews training material. 🙄

  68. September 16, 2012 11:30 am

    And of course ‘our actions’ have nothing at all to do with the hatred. Why, who doesn’t like to see countries in the muslim world being invaded militarily? Don’t mention the wars.

    No no, the sum total of the hatred is due to them hating ‘our freedomz’.

    Can’t see the wood for the trees.

    * note, I’m not attributing the entirety of the hatred to anything in particular, but the line being run is verbatim polemic crap.

  69. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 11:32 am

    “Still haven’t noticed that the very worst of Islam, which y’all like to shake & quiver about, is conservative & rightwing in nature.”

    So you keep saying. Which part? The part about respecting individual liberty. Or the freedom of expression bit? Sounds more like authoritarianism to me.

  70. September 16, 2012 11:35 am

    Haha. Of course. Radical Islam isn’t rightwing or conservative at all. And Hitler was a leftist. So was Bin Laden etc.

  71. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 11:35 am

    “Funny how some have ignored the fact that I’ve repeatedly, over a protracted period, ridiculed all religions.”

    Yes, and I’ve said all religions are legitimate objects of ridicule and criticism. It’s not much of a belief system if it can’t withstand a bit of piss-taking.

  72. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 11:39 am

    “Haha. Of course. Radical Islam isn’t rightwing or conservative at all. And Hitler was a leftist. So was Bin Laden etc.”

    Is that Guffaw answer all you’ve got, or are you able prepared to explain the link?

  73. September 16, 2012 11:39 am

    Due to the chameleonlike nature of what is said to define the right & the left in various arguments…I’m willing to concede that ‘rightwing’ won’t be accepted in this instance.

    But it sure as hell is ultra conservative.

  74. September 16, 2012 11:41 am

    If you want guffaw answers, go back up & have a look at a couple of sparta’s linked videos. 🙄

  75. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 11:41 am

    “Authoritarianism is a form of social organization characterized by submission to authority as well as the administration of said authority. In politics, an authoritarian government is one in which political authority is concentrated in a small group of politicians. It is usually opposed to individualism and libertarianism.”

  76. September 16, 2012 11:44 am

    Just as I thought! Radical Islam is ‘of the left’!

    After all, the entirety of human kind’s horrors are.

  77. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 11:45 am

    That, and theocracy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theocracy

  78. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 11:47 am

    (Enjoying this discussion, but going out. Back later.)

  79. September 16, 2012 11:57 am

    Unfortunately I’ll be off to work. 😦 …but enjoy your Sunday arvo.

    So you don’t think it’s ultra conservative! 😯 amazing!

  80. September 16, 2012 12:00 pm

    I wouldn’t tolerate Theocracy in any form.

  81. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 3:29 pm

    “So you don’t think it’s ultra conservative! amazing!”

    It could probably be classified as religious conservatism.

  82. Tony permalink
    September 16, 2012 4:07 pm

    “Haha. Of course. Radical Islam isn’t rightwing or conservative at all. And Hitler was a leftist. So was Bin Laden etc.”

    Correct.

    See, it does get in. 😉

  83. TB Queensland permalink
    September 16, 2012 4:28 pm

    JFC! 🙄

  84. September 17, 2012 12:36 am

    Dunny .. “Radical muslims who commit violent acts are about as conservative & rightwing nutjob religious as a person can get. Have a think about that.Then pause to consider that the behaviour of extremists doesn’t represent an entire culture.”
    *
    *
    The word `muslim` in Dunny`s quote could easily be swapped with, mormon, evangelist, christian, zionist, corporatologist, hindi and, all are RIGHT extremist`s.

  85. Robot overlord permalink
    September 19, 2012 8:41 am

    Video: Meet Baxter, a New Kind of Industrial Robot

  86. TB Queensland permalink
    September 21, 2012 5:55 pm

    Do these people ever stop making stuff up!

    Even the photo is … wait for it … greyscale (black and white to the simple minded) … it’s 2012 the Curiosity has COLOUR cameras (color to our US readers — we know you’re out there … we have one stalking us right now!) 😯

    Pyramid shaped rock found on Mars by NASA rover Curiosity

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/pyramid-shaped-rock-found-on-mars-by-nasa-rover-curiosity/story-fn5fsgyc-1226478851916#ixzz275YQRifU

  87. September 22, 2012 1:52 am

    So the `hover-craft` found a rock. .. That`s gotta be half-a billion$ well spent.

  88. el gordo permalink
    September 22, 2012 6:51 am

    Warp drive beats the crap out of light speed.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49064028/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.UFzS6I58d5h

  89. el gordo permalink
    September 24, 2012 10:01 pm

    A UK study paints a rosy picture of gay life.

    ‘Gay people are seven times more likely to take illegal drugs than the general population, a new study conducted over two years has found.

    ‘And one in five show signs of dependency on drugs or alcohol.

    ‘The report, conducted by the Lesbian and Gay Foundation (LGF) and the University of Central Lancashire, sampled more than 4,000 people over two years.’

    UK Mail

  90. TB Queensland permalink
    September 25, 2012 5:28 pm

    The Minister, was in our local Woollies carpark this afternoon and stood and watched, as a woman …

    …. sat in her car …

    … took out her phone …

    … dialled her mobile phone …

    … put the phone to her ear …

    … started her car …

    … put it into gear ….

    …. and promptly drove into the car that had been parked in front of hers as she did all this …

    … as the driver in the other car blasted her horn …!!!!!

    People should have to pass a test of responsibility to own a mobile phone … 🙄

    30% of fatal accidenst are now caused by people driving and texting/talking on mobile phones …

  91. September 25, 2012 10:28 pm

    “.. 30% of fatal accidenst are now caused by people driving and texting/talking on mobile phones ..“

    There`s a shit-load of pedestrians getting killed too. Walking under vehicles while on the mobile, texting, or fiddling about with their iproduct/music.

  92. JAWS permalink
    September 27, 2012 1:59 pm

    Unbelievable !

    Purchase Sony Camera on Sunday night via Kogan Hong Kong and its just arrived on my doorstep via DHL

  93. JAWS permalink
    September 27, 2012 2:01 pm

    China announces slight stimulus plan and the ASX just does a pretty big U Turn

  94. September 27, 2012 2:09 pm

    “Unbelievable !”

    Indeed. And if all the accessories are in the box it will be a true miracle!

  95. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 27, 2012 2:46 pm

    A UK study paints a rosy picture of gay life.
    ‘Gay people are seven times more likely to take illegal drugs than the general population, a new study conducted over two years has found.
    ‘And one in five show signs of dependency on drugs or alcohol.

    Doesn’t that show how intolerance, prejudice, bigotry and religion destroys people?

  96. September 27, 2012 3:09 pm

    I still haven`t seen `proper` evidence of how Mr-Rabbits marriage will be totally destroyed by Penny-Wong`s gay marriage or Bob-Brown`s gay marriage. Or anybody else`s marriage, Armchair.

  97. JAWS permalink
    September 27, 2012 3:34 pm

    “Doesn’t that show how intolerance, prejudice, bigotry and religion destroys people?”

    NO………!

  98. el gordo permalink
    September 27, 2012 3:42 pm

    ‘Doesn’t that show how intolerance, prejudice, bigotry and religion destroys people?’

    Having mixed with gay and lesbian friends over the years I think they are little different to the broader community. Within this sub culture there will be risk takers, but that is also mirrored in society at large.

  99. JAWS permalink
    September 27, 2012 3:52 pm

    “Gay people are seven times more likely to take illegal drugs than the general population, a new study conducted over two years has found.
    ‘And one in five show signs of dependency on drugs or alcohol.”

    It sounds like its safer to chain smoke.

    You’d certainly live longer than a Gay person

    Hey……………………didn’t someone say that on Q&A the other week ?

  100. September 27, 2012 4:01 pm

    “Doesn’t that show how intolerance, prejudice, bigotry and religion destroys people?”

    Of course! Not to mention the much higher rates of suicide…

  101. el gordo permalink
    September 27, 2012 4:37 pm

    The only correlation I can see is that gays don’t have off spring, which means they have too much money and time on their hands. Their straight cousins don’t have the luxury….

  102. September 27, 2012 5:18 pm

    A different individual issue topic, this blogger gives the sky-fairies a pretty good whacking, enjoy.
    http://thatsmyphilosophy.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/doing-a-deveny-on-dying-with-dignity/

  103. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 27, 2012 5:40 pm

    Thanks 730, I do visit that site from time to time.

    I think she really exposed the deveny vs jensen fiasco on Q&A, with devastating fact and stats.

    Defending Deveny:

    http://thatsmyphilosophy.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/defending-deveny/

    Far from being drowned out by Deveny’s aggressive interruptions, Archbishop Peter Jensen actually racked up a word count double that of Deveny’s – more, even, than Deveny and the equally loquacious Concetta Fierravanti-Wells combined…

    …Indeed! In terms of word count, Jensen even spoke more than the host, Tony Jones!..

    …Deveny’s sin is to be an outspoken woman, fearlessly breaking the taboo that says the religious beliefs of others are sacred and should not be publicly attacked. This is a taboo which has kept the religious perpetuation of domestic violence, child rape, child stealing, third-world poverty and the evasion of taxes under the radar for centuries. I think it’s a taboo that has done way more harm than good.

    I only wish there were more men with balls the size of Catherine’s…

  104. JAWS permalink
    September 27, 2012 5:59 pm

    “I only wish there were more men with balls the size of Catherine’s…”

    Lets have a look at your hero Catherine Deveny

    “I do so hope Bindi Irwin gets laid,”

    She said on Twitter in relation to an 11 year old at the 2010 Logie Awards

    And on the same night on Twitter again

    “Rove and Tasma look so cute … hope she doesn’t die, too,”

    In relation to McManus’s first wife, Belinda Emmett, who lost her battle with cancer in 2006.

    Yes only Kitty could admire someone so vile

  105. September 27, 2012 6:05 pm

    “only Kitty could admire someone so vile”

    This, from someone who practically wets himself at the sight of Julie Bishop…..

    LOL! 🙂

  106. JAWS permalink
    September 27, 2012 6:15 pm

    “This is a taboo which has kept the religious perpetuation of domestic violence, child rape, ”

    Child rape ……ay ?

    Which juxtaposes perfectly with….“I do so hope Bindi Irwin gets laid,”

    So……..which religion is Deveny then ?

  107. JAWS permalink
    September 27, 2012 6:17 pm

    Well I suppose if you wish to make light of Child Rape you could I suppose “LOL” if you are in that way unhinged.

  108. September 27, 2012 6:20 pm

    Have you taken your meds today Flaws…? 😯

  109. TB Queensland permalink
    September 27, 2012 6:33 pm

    A different individual issue topic, this blogger gives the sky-fairies a pretty good whacking, enjoy.

    What a great read! I would have signed up but for the frightening image of a bear directly under the register buton! 😉

  110. September 27, 2012 6:45 pm

    Aaah Yes, the QandaLand word count `gladly` did. The noise-makers opinions didn`t stack up on that either Armchair.
    (I follow `gladly` via wordpress system)

  111. September 27, 2012 6:51 pm

    “..wets himself at the sight of Julie Bishop..” ROFL

  112. TB Queensland permalink
    September 27, 2012 6:56 pm

    (“..wets himself at the sight of Julie Bishop..” ROFL )

    I’ts the eays! 😯

  113. TB Queensland permalink
    September 27, 2012 6:57 pm

    NO NO the EYES … she usually votes nay … not eay … 🙄

  114. JAWS ( Why do they need toilet paper ? They should dump at home) permalink
    September 27, 2012 7:21 pm

    Oh we’ll if you people wish to make light of Deveny’s underage sex comment yet harp on about pedophilia in the Church then I guess it shows up your general lack of decency and hypocrisy.

    I find no humour in child sex as you 3 obviously do having seen its delves rating effects via child prostitution in Cambodia and Vietnam.

    Enjoy your glasses of pus tonight. You have earnt them

  115. September 27, 2012 7:26 pm

    Rol up roll up! Get your tickets to Flaws Fantasyland Theatre here..!!

    Get ‘ em while they’re hot. Free packet of peanuts with every ticket…!!

  116. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 27, 2012 7:47 pm

    Oh we’ll if you people wish to make light of Deveny’s underage sex comment yet harp on about pedophilia in the Church then I guess it shows up your general lack of decency and hypocrisy.

    Oh how could we possibly think that a satiric comedian who has researched religion and performed in her own show on it, could make any worthy contribution or social commentary on the values of children being marketed for profit. Fancy thinking paedophilia is more important. Fancy speaking out on the hypocrisy and harm caused by organised religion.

  117. Free to criticise permalink
    September 27, 2012 7:51 pm

    In Julia Gillard’s speech to the UN General Assembly:

    “Denigration of religious beliefs is never acceptable.”

    Wrong. Freedom of religion should exist side-by-side with freedom of speech. You should be free to believe whatever you wish, and I should be free to ridicule those beliefs.

  118. September 27, 2012 7:54 pm

    Wrong again Flaws. .. I don`t really like Deveny either, she`s just another quack.

  119. September 27, 2012 7:57 pm

    Good point scales.
    Pedo Sky Fairies should face the courts Flaws.

  120. el gordo permalink
    September 27, 2012 8:01 pm

    ‘…and I should be free to ridicule those beliefs.’

    Hear hear.

  121. September 27, 2012 8:01 pm

    Do I give a fuck about JK Rowling’s new book.

    No, I think I do not.

    Just saying.

  122. September 27, 2012 8:07 pm

    “..about JK Rowling’s new book..”
    I`m in the same boat reb, not interested in JK, potter books or movies. Just not into that `genre` I guess.

  123. TB Queensland permalink
    September 27, 2012 8:11 pm

    (” Oh we’ll if you people wish to make light of Deveny’s underage sex comment yet harp on about pedophilia in the Church then I guess it shows up your general lack of decency and hypocrisy.”)

    I don’t know which “3” you mean … BUT …

    How long have you been posting with us, Wally? That is insulting to anyone … godbotherer or not …

    BIG difference in making stupid remarks about peadophilia and DOING IT week after week!

    Yes, she’s a silly bitch and WRONG! … but priests and ministers from the churches (all of them … but more profusely the MIcks! it would appear) actually fuck little boys and girls! and they aren’t form Vietnam or Cambodia! And we create as much about it as we can!

    However! You “argue” …

    … it’s alright to “prostitute” little kids in factories and sweat shops … but not in brothels?

    And you call us hypocrites (and more than once tonight, BTW!) …

    From the Oxford Dictionary

    Definition of prostitute

    noun

    a person, typically a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment.

    verb
    [with object]
    offer (someone, typically a woman) for sexual activity in exchange for payment: although she was paid £15 to join a man at his table, she never prostituted herself

    put (oneself or one’s talents) to an unworthy or corrupt use for personal or financial gain: his willingness to prostitute himself to the worst instincts of the electorate

    And these little kids don’t put themselves to “unworthy or corrupt use for personal or financial gain” … the poor little buggers have no choice …

    Shall I post the definition of “exploitation” for you! Hypocrite!

  124. September 27, 2012 8:20 pm

    ,
    “How long have you been posting with us, Wally? “

    Don’t you mean “posting at us”…

    It’s not like Flaws tries to have a conversation, he just strolls in here looking for a fight…..

  125. TB Queensland permalink
    September 27, 2012 8:24 pm

    (“Wrong. Freedom of religion should exist side-by-side with freedom of speech. You should be free to believe whatever you wish, and I should be free to ridicule those beliefs.”)

    Absobloodylutely! ToSY!

    Well said …

    …. how come the “new” US dictionary doesn’t recognise (fk me! or! – recogniSe! 😯 ) absobloodylutely !!!!!!!

  126. TB Queensland permalink
    September 27, 2012 8:27 pm

    It’s not like Flaws tries to have a conversation, he just strolls in here looking for a fight…..

    It’s not even that, sreb, he holds fkn court! Typical m’lord … lives in the clouds … and we live in the gutter …

    … BTW where are the “cohorts” tonight … bit like Boswell … 😉

  127. TB Queensland permalink
    September 27, 2012 8:33 pm

    It’s not like Flaws tries to have a conversation, he just strolls in here looking for a fight…..

    Not quite a fair statement though … he doesn’t troll stroll in here … he fkn lives here! Fair is fair … truth be known he’s Warren Buffet (although WB is a real family man) maybe he’s not a he and she’s GINA!

    Wally Flaws has a habit of trying to “chase” people away who disagree with him … and has succeeded on more than one occasion …

    he has trouble though with hard arses … (the dictionary doesn’t recognise arses – let me guess – asses – grrrrrrr)

  128. JAWS ( Why do they need toilet paper ? They should dump at home) permalink
    September 27, 2012 10:34 pm

    “And you call us hypocrites (and more than once tonight, BTW!) …”

    Because you and reb and kl are fucking hypocrites.

    Did KL or you or reb address at all the Coles or Woolworths dilemma. No. You all chose instead to immediately go on the attack over my home life.

    What the fuck would you 3 stooges know ?

    KL did not address Deveny’s”s Bindi comments either.

    Why ?

    Because KL is a fucking hypocrit with a infatuation with some stupid ideal of a reality that does not exist.

    I didn’t say child labour was ok . I said if the family had to rely on it so as not to starve what choice
    Is there ?

    I have seen and been introduced to 11 rescued child prostitutesin Vietnam and Canbodia . I remember each of their names.

    So don’t you 3 fucking morons dare try and tell me about prostitution or compare it to a child working in a factory so the family can eat.

    What a fucking pathetic comparison

    You 3 are really low life scum trying to masquerade as concerned citizens who don’t give a fuck at all and just scream out ” oh the injustice of those Rich people.”

    The 3 of you are great at whinging but you do fuck all about it

  129. JAWS ( Why do they need toilet paper ? They should dump at home) permalink
    September 27, 2012 10:41 pm

    Oh and just on others home life . Except for comments over a safari suit when have I attacked reb or kitty or you TB over their domestic lives.

    It seems to be a trait of the Left around here as soon as they run out of answered

    The 3 of you are quite pathetic in that regard

  130. September 27, 2012 10:51 pm

    Wow! .. Flaws seems `unhinged` tonight.

  131. JAWS permalink
    September 27, 2012 11:12 pm

    In fact I just collected mrs jaws from the airport tonight 730. Then I saw TBs disgusting labour v prostitution analogy.

    Are you ok with that are you ?

    If you can keep cool about equating child prostitutes to child labour then you are incredibly naive.

    I don’t expect an answer from those 3 gutless Leftists who never answer an uncomfortable question.

    Would you compare it ?

    Stand up and be counted

  132. September 28, 2012 12:34 am

    Flaws .. “.Stand up and be counted.”
    *
    Sit down goose and take a breath.
    *
    Flaws .. “.I don’t expect an answer from those 3 gutless Leftists who never answer an uncomfortable question..”
    *
    You are the one who worked them-self into a Lather, all under your own steam. You butted in to the thread where Armchair and I were discussing `gladly` Links. TB then joined us talking about `gladly` posts. Armchair quoted from the `gladly` posts, which you then started to use to abuse Armchair, Reb and TB. You earned what you got back from them. Stop screeching from your inbox and scroll up the page.

  133. Tom R permalink
    September 28, 2012 6:40 am

    It’s not like Flaws tries to have a conversation, he just strolls in here looking for a fight…..

    And usually ends up looking like the wall next to Barbara Ramjan’s head when tabots ‘expressing’ his views.

    And I see that flaws is still a believer in child labour, how quaint.

    And is still both comprehension AND link free 😆

  134. el gordo permalink
    September 28, 2012 7:10 am

    Barbara Ramjan has done well for a Trot and her selective memory useful in bringing to light our future leader’s grey past.

  135. el gordo permalink
    September 28, 2012 7:15 am

    Talking of the past…

    ‘JOHN Howard has re-entered the culture wars, describing the Gillard government’s national school history curriculum as “unbalanced, lacking in priorities and quite bizarre”, and accusing it of marginalising the Judeo-Christian ethic and purging British history.

    ‘The former prime minister said last night that “our Western heritage appears to be so conspicuously absent from the history curriculum reflects a growing retreat from self-belief in Western civilisation”.

    ‘In a swingeing critique of the government’s national high school curriculum, which is being introduced at various levels in the states through to 2014, Mr Howard said a lack of proper perspective in history teaching would “deny future generations a real understanding of what has made us as a nation”.

    Dennis Shanahan in the Oz

  136. Tom R permalink
    September 28, 2012 8:01 am

    howie and shanana writing their own history

    probably advancing to the black ‘headband’ view now

  137. September 28, 2012 8:26 am

    “I have seen and been introduced to 11 rescued child prostitutesin Vietnam and Canbodia . I remember each of their names.”

    How much did they cost?

  138. JAWS permalink
    September 28, 2012 8:32 am

    You are quite a poisonous maggot are’nt you reb

  139. September 28, 2012 8:39 am

    “Did KL or you or reb address at all the Coles or Woolworths dilemma. ”

    I’m sorry I must’ve missed that..

    Is there a dilemma?

    Do I need to make a choice between either shopping at Coles or Woolworths…?

    I have in the past shopped at both, in fact yesterday I bought a loaf of bread from Coles and used the self serve checkout. No child labour involved in that transaction as far as I could see. But I do prefer the layout of Woolies, and they have a bigger selection of biscuits than Coles. But would you believe that only Woolies carries Arnotts Scotch Fingers? Coles only carries their own home brand Scotch Fingers, and frankly I don’t trust them. Would you? No I didn’t think so.

    Neither Coles nor Woolworths carries those nice Scotch Finger biscuits with the chocolate coating on one side. Don’t get me started about that.

    And what about IGA? I don’t know where they stand on child labour, but I’ll tell you one thing…

    Those cnuts charge $2 more for a packet of Scotch Fingers than Coles or Woolies and that in itself is a fkn outrage!!

  140. JAWS permalink
    September 28, 2012 8:48 am

    “It’s hard to contemplate how miserable a life must be for a child or young woman hand-stitching footballs for a few cents an hour to support her family. It’s harder to contemplate what her alternative might be when that avenue is closed – what the next occupation down poverty’s pecking order is if football stitching was preferable.”

    That’s it exactly…………………….”.It’s harder to contemplate what her alternative might be when that avenue is closed ”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/stitching-footballs-can-be-a-step-on-the-path-to-progress-20120927-26o15.html#ixzz27iD52Jv8

    Go and consult your Utopian Textbooks if you wish. Just do so in the knowledge that the Reality of the World is different and if you ever do go to the a Third World Nation ( not your Phukets, Bangkoks, Ho Chi Minh or your KLs or Penangs) you might actually get it finally thru your tiny brains that in those places things will only change by millimetres.

    As much as you might want them to change overnight it just aint going to happen. And the faster you realise that then then faster they actually will.

  141. JAWS permalink
    September 28, 2012 8:50 am

    “And I see that flaws is still a believer in child labour, how quaint.”

    Says one who just has no fucking idea

  142. Tom R permalink
    September 28, 2012 8:55 am

    things will only change by millimetres.

    And throwing your hands in the air and saying ‘shit happens’ only ensures that change will happen even slower, ifat all, which could be the desired outcome for some.

    Or, you can take a pro-active approach, and try and change behaviors, so that we don’t end up with a race to the bottom

    Sherrin will donate profits from Auskick to Manav Sehyog Society, a healthcare and education charity in Jalandhar.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/ball-backdown-as-sherrin-ends-child-labour-20120925-26jjh.html#ixzz27iIjbzsA

  143. Tom R permalink
    September 28, 2012 8:57 am

    Says one who just has no fucking idea

    I’m trying to lower myself to level of ‘debate’ required with you, like minds and all that 😉

  144. September 28, 2012 9:00 am

    I get the feeling that for the past 24 hours Flaws has been trying to make a point, but I’ll be buggered if I know what it is. If there is a point, it seems to cloaked in too much anger to determine what it actually is…..

    Just sayin….

  145. Tom R permalink
    September 28, 2012 9:10 am

    If there is a point, it seems to cloaked in too much anger to determine what it actually is…..

    Perhaps the point is he is angry?

  146. Tom R permalink
    September 28, 2012 9:15 am

  147. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 28, 2012 9:53 am

    It’s a difficult issue, simply terminating the income that people rely on doesn’t seem particularly humanitarian. They’ve come to rely on an income and so do their families.

    Think of a family farm, the kids will do all sorts of work to support it, and I’m not sure there is any movement to stop them from helping the family earn money (as long as they turn up to school from time to time). I suspect that children overseas have a similar attitude about earing money to help the family.

  148. TB Queensland permalink
    September 28, 2012 9:57 am

    (“if you ever do go to the a Third World Nation”)

    Well this hypocrite lived in one for a year and worked in a couple over a ten year period …

    … expats working in third world countries generally fall into three categories :

    Missionaries … godbotherers, spreading the “word” …

    Merecenaries … there for the money, or career development

    Misfits … can’t find work in a developed world country

    Personally I went to PNG as a mercenary but as a training and development manager got involved in the world around me and the families of people I worked with … I now firmly believe the way out of poverty for people is education …

    Children need the time and resources to learn … eg in Egypt we handed out pens and notebooks to kids … NOT, ‘baksheesh’ (money) … we had purchased them in London before we flew to Cairo … it was encouraged by the Egyptian government and tourist organisations …

  149. el gordo permalink
    September 28, 2012 10:01 am

    ‘Coles only carries their own home brand Scotch Fingers, and frankly I don’t trust them. Would you?’

    And they have disappeared my favourite NZ vintage cheese and replaced it with a dodgy generic which tastes nothing like it. We’ll soon be sucking up soylent green and laffing about the good old days.

  150. TB Queensland permalink
    September 28, 2012 10:06 am

    I suspect that children overseas have a similar attitude about earing money to help the family.

    Well, you’re right and wrong … they work to exist but there is no compulsory education …

    Think of a family farm, the kids will do all sorts of work to support it

    Just in passing I worked as a child too, most kids do … at 10 I was peeling a hundredweight (50 kilos) sack of potatoes and making chips in a wet cold cellar in the north of England in winter … I delivered fish and chips to three or four mills every lunch time on my bike … then went back to school … see the difference … compulsory education …

    third world countries don’t all (very few, in fact) make schooling compulsory … eg in PNG most kids that do go to school, leave by grade six …

  151. September 28, 2012 10:08 am

    (“if you ever do go to the a Third World Nation”)

    This hypocrite travelled to a number of remote hill tribes in Laos and distributed dual-language books and pens to children who don’t have much in the way of educational resources. I also donated books to the local school, which was just a basic hut.

  152. Tom R permalink
    September 28, 2012 10:13 am

    simply terminating the income that people rely on doesn’t seem particularly humanitarian.

    Try reading comments above yours yomm 😉

    Sherrin will donate profits from Auskick to Manav Sehyog Society, a healthcare and education charity in Jalandhar.

  153. Meta permalink
    September 28, 2012 10:36 am

    (“Books are good/ Books make me smart.“)

  154. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 28, 2012 10:36 am

    I know that money will be donated, the point is that simply terminating income doesn’t provide assistance to those directly affected by the decision. They now have no money.

    That’s not supporting child labour.

    But the AFL/Sherrin have made the expedient decision, the donation is a feel good decision, a public relations damage control action.

  155. September 28, 2012 10:47 am

    Meta,

    Big Brother Mouse is where I bought the books in Luang Prabang. We then hired a van with a driver to take us up to the hill tribes. It was about a three hour drive through some pretty rough terrain, but the welcome we received and the gratitude of the kids and their parents was worth it.

  156. Tom R permalink
    September 28, 2012 11:14 am

    They now have no money.

    But they have education. Which should lead them to a better chance of more money. Better than keeping them trapped in an endless cycle, wouldn’t you think?

  157. el gordo permalink
    September 28, 2012 12:24 pm

    ‘A former federal Treasury officer has warned that the Labor government’s spending promises could add $28 billion a year to public expenditure by 2020 and collide with the rising cost of baby-boomer age pensions and healthcare.’

    Gemma Daley in Fin Review

  158. Tom R permalink
    September 28, 2012 12:38 pm

    Or it could not 😉

  159. Tom R permalink
    September 28, 2012 12:42 pm

    All this earlier talk of JK Rowling

    “I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles.

    “A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/33626.html

    Maybe I should try and read one of the books, although, I haven’t been able to make it all the way through any of the movies.

  160. TB Queensland permalink
    September 28, 2012 2:57 pm

    Wonder how much tax, JK “actually” pays now? And if any is squirreled away in tax havens?

    Most of the HP stuff reminds me of the boys own comics and books of the 1930’s – nowt’s new … still if she managed to get millions of kids interested in reading … a big thumbs up …

  161. JAWS permalink
    September 28, 2012 5:46 pm

    Eg

    You must be getting smashed up by a huge storm at the moment by the look of the BoM Radar Loop.

    http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR031.loop.shtml#skip

    Crap weather forecast for GF in Melbourne tomorrow and a sunny day in Sydney for Sunday’s GF

  162. el gordo permalink
    September 28, 2012 5:56 pm

    The storm’s over head and my business partner has tole me to turn off the system…see you later.

  163. September 28, 2012 6:01 pm

    Now might be a good idea to check your TV antenae egg…

  164. September 28, 2012 6:16 pm

    Tom-R .. Nice find on JK-Rowling. .. While I still don`t have any interest in her books, I like her attitude. .. It does also hint at how every countries system is stacked against the common person and in favor of the mega-rich.

  165. September 28, 2012 6:23 pm

    Now might be a good idea to check your TV antenae egg
    +
    Make sure you have something solid to climb on, a metal ladder is ideal. Take something with you to `bump` your antenna into position. A nine-iron golf club is ideal. Best reception can be achieved during lightning storms.

  166. September 28, 2012 6:41 pm

    “A nine-iron golf club is ideal. ”

    Wrapping your self in tinfoil before going outside would be a handy safety precaution too…

  167. You're not paranoid if they're really out to get you permalink
    September 28, 2012 7:07 pm

    “Wrapping your self in tinfoil before going outside would be a handy safety precaution too…”

    Good to know. I always wear a tinfoil hat outside anyway (on account of the government mind-control rays).

  168. September 28, 2012 7:30 pm

    sbs1 news says .. the `curiosity` hover craft has found rounded pebbles, evidence there was running water .. (in Nevada)

  169. JAWS permalink
    September 28, 2012 7:52 pm

    Congratulations Wayne

    You passed $250 Billion in Commonwealth treasury notes on issue today.

    In fact you sold $1.5 Billion in the last 2 days according to the ASX today.

    $300 Billion ceiling here we come

  170. el gordo permalink
    September 28, 2012 8:01 pm

    ‘Now might be a good idea to check your TV antenae egg…’
    🙂

  171. el gordo permalink
    September 28, 2012 8:08 pm

    ‘on account of the government mind-control rays.’

    LOL

    Noice to see everyone in a good mood.

  172. el gordo permalink
    September 28, 2012 8:17 pm

    Spain on the brink of civil war? Rajoy’s view is red rag to a bull.

    Rajoy ‘brushed aside warnings that fiscal overkill – at a time when unemployment is already 25pc – could push the country into turmoil, saying he would listen only to the “silent majority” of responsible citizens.’

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

  173. September 28, 2012 8:47 pm

    “Noice to see everyone in a good mood.”

    Most people around these parts generally are good humoured.

    However there is one individual who seems to consistently work himself up into a fit of frenzy and rage about what “he thinks” people might’ve said, even though those people on the receiving end of his anger have NFI what he’s going on about.

    I’m not going to single anyone out, or name names……

    But it was Jaws.

  174. TB Queensland permalink
    September 28, 2012 9:09 pm

    (“Spain on the brink of civil war? )”

    Did I ever mention that history often repeats itself if left to the whims (and emotions) of human beens?

    The Spanish Civil War[nb 2] was a major conflict fought in Spain from 17 July 1936 to 1 April 1939. The war began after a pronunciamiento (declaration of opposition) by a group of generals under the leadership of José Sanjurjo against the elected government of the Second Spanish Republic, at the time under the leadership of President Manuel Azaña. The rebel coup was supported by a number of conservative groups including the Spanish Confederation of the Autonomous Right,[nb 3] monarchists such as the religious conservative Carlists, and the Fascist Falange.[nb 4][5]

    Following the only partially successful coup,[nb 5] Spain was left militarily and politically divided. From that moment onwards, general Francisco Franco began a protracted war of attrition against the established government for the control of the country. The rebel forces received the support of Nazi Germany and the Kingdom of Italy, as well as neighbouring Portugal, while the Soviet Union and Mexico intervened in support of the Republican government or loyalist side.

    Now let’s see Wall St Crash 1929 — Great depression begins 1930 — Spanish Civil War begins 1936 … GFC === 2008 … early by a coupla years …

  175. el gordo permalink
    September 28, 2012 9:21 pm

    Cycles within cycles, nothing is ever the same, they will have to get out of the Euro. The Brits will continue to support them if the pound remains above the financial turmoil….a fabulous weekender for the rich and fatuous.

  176. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 28, 2012 10:45 pm

    I think Greece is a little more volatile than Spain.

    There’s a very rich tradition of wacky politics and strange clan rivalries there. Spain too, but somehow they seem just a little less wacky in their politics.

  177. el gordo permalink
    September 28, 2012 10:57 pm

    The Italians aren’t immune from wacky.

  178. JAWS permalink
    September 29, 2012 1:48 am

    “But it was Jaws”

    I only get fucking angry when shitheads from Queensland get in here and accuse me of disliking children because i have a problem with the BER then try and equate child labour with child prostitution.

    With a fucking dictionary .

    Interesting that some never even try to defend their long cut and pastes

    That is the definition of a total fucking ( fill in blank)

    Then when I recount how many destroyed lives I had been introduced to ( at 3 orphanages)
    And met 4 mothers looking for their little kids i get a stupid fucking response of

    “how much did they cost you”

    Yes

    I don’t apologise for being angry. I’ve seen it firsthand and I don’t like recalling or being remotely reminded on it.

    And yes I am wealthy. And no I am not pissed at this time on a Saturday morning because in 15 minutes I have to do a conference call to LDN and SFC .

    Then I get to go to bed.

    That’s what I sometimes have to do on a Friday yet you morons hate people like me.

    You need to figure yourselves out.

    Not me

  179. September 29, 2012 2:37 am

    “.And yes I am wealthy..”
    BULLSHIT
    Wealth cannot be created or retained with the bipolar Logic you display. .. Sweet Dreams.

  180. September 29, 2012 8:10 am

    “Wealth cannot be created or retained with the bipolar Logic you display.”

    True that.

  181. el gordo permalink
    September 29, 2012 8:26 am

    My money is on jaws and ‘you lot’ need to pick up your act.

    Now and then things become confused and poorly placed attempted humour only makes matters worse.

  182. el gordo permalink
    September 29, 2012 9:09 am

    ‘While everyone’s been busy debating whether Tony Abbott’s alleged pugilism is real or a fit-up by Labor ladies wielding handbags, it’s been easy to overlook the fact that the next election campaign is shaping as one where it is the ALP that will have to pick a fight.

    ‘The reason is all about the framing.

    ‘Abbott wants to frame the campaign as a referendum on the record and competence of Labor in government.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/pugilistic-labor-tries-to-land-a-blow-as-abbott-skips-away-20120928-26qj8.html#ixzz27oCkxFNv

  183. September 29, 2012 9:23 am

    “My money is on jaws and ‘you lot’ need to pick up your act.”

    Pfft.

  184. Tom R permalink
    September 29, 2012 10:16 am

    ‘Abbott wants to frame the campaign as a referendum on the record and competence of Labor in government.’

    Labor’s a shoe in then 😉

    WORLDS GREATEST TREASURER! vs $70 BILLION BLACK HOLE

    Bring it on 🙂

  185. Tom R permalink
    September 29, 2012 10:18 am

    I see flaws is still a great believer in child labour. Nikes all round.

  186. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 29, 2012 10:51 am

    While sycophants might prefer to ignore the long list of government failures, there are plenty.

    • The on shore, East Timor, Malaysian Nauru Solution
    • This reform (carbon pricing) will fail without “community consensus”, so..
    • We’ll have a big committee and ..
    • “No carbon tax”
    • Billions to install home insulation, and..
    • Billions to remove home insulation
    • Stimulus cast to stimulate the casinos and the vital poker machine industry
    • Thomson has “no case to answer”
    • Ashby has no case, so…
    • Cough up $50,000 for a bloke with no case???

    There are plenty of good reasons for the public perception that this government has no direction, and is compulsively dishonest.

  187. TB Queensland permalink
    September 29, 2012 11:03 am

    That’s what I sometimes have to do on a Friday yet you morons hate people like me.

    This Queenslander hates no-one … I really, really, dislike arrogance

  188. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 29, 2012 11:24 am

    …um, I don’t know that there are many here who aren’t a touch arrogant TB.

    It seems to go with the level of vigour. People who believe they have achieved something with their lives tend to have a degree of self confidence, which can be perceived as a little arrogance.

  189. el gordo permalink
    September 29, 2012 11:31 am

    ‘Pfft.’ 😉

  190. Tom R permalink
    September 29, 2012 1:03 pm

    A touch 😯

  191. September 29, 2012 1:52 pm

    “.My money is on jaws and ‘you lot’ need to pick up your act..”

    Now and then `egg` becomes confused and poorly placed `bets` only makes matters `funnier`. .. (unscrambled)

  192. September 29, 2012 2:04 pm

    Not much of a Link egg.

    Any of the Links that contain
    /opinion/politics/ .. in them are more about the news-org/journalist Lobbying or expressing a thought bubble and filling webspace, than informing the public or analyzing policy.
    Lennor`s thought bubble.

  193. el gordo permalink
    September 29, 2012 3:48 pm

    ‘That’s why it’s Labor that really needs to pick a fight right now.’

    She makes a lot of sense.

  194. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 29, 2012 4:29 pm

    How much did they cost?

    Where’s your humour gone jaws? even I lol at that witty retort, very clever!

    No need to get all sanctimonious about it, we all do what we can. This hypocrite lived and worked in australia’s own forgotten third world, aboriginal communities, believing we don’t need to go overseas to assist the needy. I think that people in oz are guilty of…judging “the deserving and non-deserving poor.” I volunteer with refugees here as my bit toward acceptance and compassion for their plight. I try to raise funds/items for them [and there’s not many in the community who will donate].

    Think of a family farm, the kids will do all sorts of work to support it, and I’m not sure there is any movement to stop them from helping the family earn money

    I don’t think we can equate ‘chores around the house or farm’ by kids, before or after school when old enough and in their free time, to earn pocket money or ‘help out’ with forced child labour. Children working as adults, beyond their physical and developmental abilities, all day every day.

    Oh and just on others home life . Except for comments over a safari suit when have I attacked reb or kitty or you TB over their domestic lives.

    Quite often actually, I’m regularly derided by you as a communist or hippy or some kind of wacky person with no idea of ‘how the real world works’. A hypocrite or moron. You are personal and often abusive in your arguments rants.

    I don’t apologise for being angry. I’ve seen it firsthand and I don’t like recalling or being remotely reminded on it.

    None of us like it, that is why we disagree with the status quo, why we want change for the better in society.

    And if it makes you sick and angry, surely you would be an advocate for impoverished people receiving financial support to send their kids to school, not enforced labour? Clearly the market that you laud has failed these impoverished people. Do you really believe that making a few CEO’s enormously wealthy through child labour is improving the lives of these people? There is NO choice between starving and child labour, neither the kids nor the parents would voluntarily choose that life for themselves.

    That’s what I sometimes have to do on a Friday yet you morons hate people like me.
    No-one hates you, we might dislike what you stand for and defend, but that is your right. We morons show more tolerance toward you than you show us.
    I don’t know why a difference in worldview should make you sooo angry, you come in wanting to blast people off the page as if we are somehow wilfully blind to your ‘superior’ knowledge of the world. When we morons choose to differ, you become incoherent with rage. You are so blinkered that you still refuse to even acknowledge where the ‘free market’ fails people.

    People who believe they have achieved something with their lives tend to have a degree of self confidence, which can be perceived as a little arrogance.

    Self confidence or self important?

    Depends on how you measure achievement doesn’t it? i don’t know how you can define a person or human achievement on the accumulation of $. It is only important if you value wealth creation above all things, wrong thinking in my view.

    To someone born without arms or legs, climbing a mountain would be a lifetime achievement, they might be poor in terms of $. Mother theresa [who I met in katherine nt] died poor and took a vow of poverty, is her humanity not an achievement? Is a public servant who toils all his life for the betterment of society a lesser person than a CEO?

    If you have walked all over others, stabbed people in the back, got ahead on the hard work of others, never given a helping hand to people in need or generally behaved like an arsehole in gaining your wealth, then as a person, as a human being, you are poor IMO.

  195. TB Queensland permalink
    September 29, 2012 4:32 pm

    I only get fucking angry when shitheads from Queensland get in here and accuse me of disliking children because i have a problem with the BER

    Do you have any children in your wealthy family who attend a 30 yo state school that has never had a hall … I do and I can see, feel and experience the change …

    And not once did you say something like — “of course I like children … I’m arguing the cost … and the money could have benefitted the children by … ”

    You still haven’t said you like ’em. BTW … 🙂

    then try and equate child labour with child prostitution.

    BOTH are wrong and BOTH need to be fixed … it was in fact you that “equated” … the Queenslander (who’s not a shithead, BTW) … wants BOTH stopped … you did a shoulder shrug about child labour …

    … your, “if they went to school they wouldn’t eat” … applies equally to both disgusting situations … the Monty Python Four Yorkshiremen isn’t a comedy skit … it’s satire about the poor working conditions in the North of England and how wealthy mill owners tried to justify the exploitation of the working class … and still fkn do (though not in mills – all gone)

    I’m not wealthy … but I’m very comfortable … wealth has no interest to me … money is just a tool for your chosen lifestyle … any more is greed … one thing I do know … wealth doesn’t make you smarter, more, knowledable or more life experienced than anyone else …

    As you may know already I’m more interested in the people and improving society …

  196. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 29, 2012 5:01 pm

    one thing I do know … wealth doesn’t make you smarter, more, knowledable or more life experienced than anyone else …

    No, just luckier, and it helps to be white and male because all systems are designed to ensure white males are more advantaged than any other in society. If you can’t be white, being male is next best and they will ruthlessly ensure it stays that way [climate change, oppression of women, gays, laws to enshrine property rights, use of state to oppress dissent etc].

    And on values and achievement, a wealthy person doing a few good things for others less fortunate and lucky in life, out of a sense of charity, to feel smug and good about themselves and their contribution, is wrong.

    They should be doing it because they know it is inherently an unjust system, that the lottery of birth has allowed them to prosper above others and it is their personal duty as a human being to install change. To try to make a fairer system, so a child born anywhere in the world can have the same chances in life.

  197. TB Queensland permalink
    September 29, 2012 5:26 pm

    Must confess, KL, I can’t agree with all that you write … (maybe ’cause I’m male and white?) 😉

    … I was born into a very poor working class family … didn’t go to high school (parents couldn’t afford it) … graduated at 45 and retired at 59 … I like to think I did – through hard work … where and how I was born and lived in the world has a massive influence on success …

    … some of my female friends are very succesful senior managers … my own daughter developed and ran two succesful businesses, while raising three boys – two now adults …

    … disadvantage is a driver for some and a destroyer for others …

    … one thing I really do believe in is education and employment opportunities … and I have had the privilege to see, twice, a business failing and taken over by the employees (male and female) and succeed .. and I think I’ve mentioned before my two female proteges who have reached for the stars (as well as raising a family)!

    One thing that really annoys me is wealthy or successful people who inherit, saying how they made it on their own … and how difficult it is/was … I have a former friend who is a multi – millionaire that prattles on about that … (he lost me, when my then 10 yo daughter, asked him how he could afford such a big house … “because I work very hard” … did my daughter think then, that I didn’t?)

  198. el gordo permalink
    September 29, 2012 5:31 pm

    ‘…and they will ruthlessly ensure it stays that way [climate change, oppression of women, gays, laws to enshrine property rights, use of state to oppress dissent etc].’

    So its a white guy conspiracy?

  199. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 29, 2012 5:39 pm

    Must confess, KL, I can’t agree with all that you write … (maybe ’cause I’m male and white?)

    I know that TB! but then due to gender, we probably don’t have the same outlook re inherent male advantage 😉

    … one thing I really do believe in is education and employment opportunities …

    yep, no matter where you are born, or the personal and financial circumstances, life should not be a birth lottery.

    … some of my female friends are very succesful senior managers … my own daughter developed and ran two succesful businesses, while raising three boys – two now adults …

    Did I also say, that next to being white and male, or just male, comes white female in order of systemic advantage? 🙂

  200. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 29, 2012 5:45 pm

    So its a white guy conspiracy?

    Glad you acknowledge egg, you only need to look at history.

  201. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 29, 2012 5:56 pm

    I acknowledge that disadvantage and oppression by males to maintain superiority has changed over time and it has changed the systems that they use to their own advantage, but there is still work to be done. I have hope and faith in an educated and enlightened empowered, younger generation.

    Or failing that, revolution in the streets 😆

  202. TB Queensland permalink
    September 29, 2012 5:57 pm

    Did I also say … You did indeed … and I might add male sponssorship (in my case business mentor) helps the female cause … the more that “rise” the more will be assisted and encouraged …

  203. TB Queensland permalink
    September 29, 2012 5:59 pm

    Just “discovered” Garrow’s Law! (GEM) we watched the final (our FIRST!) episode a lunchtime … very good show …

  204. September 29, 2012 6:15 pm

    I heartily agree with everything that Kittylitter said at 4.29

  205. TB Queensland permalink
    September 29, 2012 6:21 pm

    “heartily”? Your on the fkn shiraz again! 😛

  206. TB Queensland permalink
    September 29, 2012 6:38 pm

    If specsavers think I’m paying seven hundred bucks for these new glasses (two pair) they are in for one hellof a shock! Why is it that I seem to end up fighting the good fight because of Fuckwits™?

    And speaking of The Curse of The Mobile Phones … at a shopping centre this morn and stopped at the silliest zebra crossing … people from the main entrance one way and from the tichy carpark at the front each ideally spaced to make sure you spend the optimum time waiting …

    … as I’m waiting (happily enough ’cause it’s not the pedestrians fault the architect is a DH!) … I’m about to move when this little 3-4 yo turns up and moves towards the crossing … I stop … he runs back … I start … he returns … (little kids can go! — anywhere! Quickly!) … I stop! … then I spot his mum – loaded trolley two little kids in the trolley, and you guessed it … texting away … he walks forward … and I stop … I wind down my window … LOUDLY! “lady watch your kid! … she looks up … I am watching him … goes back to texting … “lady get him off the crossing before he gets run over” … she looks up and just gives me a blank stare … I look at The Minister … she looks at me with eyes the size of a 20 cent coin … the kid runs back to his ?mother? … I’m shaking my head NOW!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Eldest g/son and I were talking tech yesterday and he tells me they took a TV crew along the line waiting for the new iPhone 5 … stopped at one young female and asked her what new features she was expecting after waiing for TWO DAYS! She siad she had no idea … she just wanted the new phone … 70% of the world are really really silly!

  207. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 29, 2012 6:42 pm

    Did I also say … You did indeed … and I might add male sponssorship (in my case business mentor) helps the female cause … the more that “rise” the more will be assisted and encouraged …

    I rest my case 🙂

  208. TB Queensland permalink
    September 29, 2012 6:49 pm

    I rest my case

    … indeed …

  209. el gordo permalink
    September 29, 2012 6:57 pm

    “heartily”? Your on the fkn shiraz again!’

    LOL Give the man a break, its Saturday arvo and fooballs on.

  210. JAWS permalink
    September 29, 2012 11:40 pm

    “BULLSHIT
    Wealth cannot be created or retained with the bipolar Logic you display. .. Sweet Dreams..”

    Perhaps you are correct Arsehole. Mrs Jaws put a deposit on a very ice new BMW today. So yes I feel sometimes my wealth is not all that well “retained”. They call it giving into your wife apparently.Which is a part of a great marriage. Not that drop ins from the cafe know too much about that

    The marriage bit I mean. They’d be happy just being BMW road kill I suspect.

    As far as the bipolar I suppose I should talk to my psychiatrist sister about it. For some bizarre reason in all her 45 years she’s yet to notice.

    would you like a referral Fucktard.

    By the way arsehole my sister works in rape crisis at a major sydney hospital you so don’t fucking start.
    ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••
    As for you Kitty I have called you a raving lunatic bolshie North Korean communist but you can drop the fucking outright lies that I have ever speculated on your
    male or female partner or a daughter or son or whatever.

    You are a lunatic Leftie to the same degree as you address me as a lunatic Rightie.

    I think you may wish to retract on that front .

    Anyway enough for tonight.

    I’m fishing 8 miles off Sydney for whatever I can add to my current tally of 12 kg of fish.

    I’m almost out of live bait and we spotted 34 individual sharks late today

    Any volunteers

  211. JAWS permalink
    September 29, 2012 11:52 pm

    “Where’s your humour gone jaws? even I lol at that witty retort, very clever!”

    If you think that’s even funny let alone clever then you seriously need help .

    If you are in the nursing profession that should be vomit inducing.

    A retort like that can only come from an idiot.

    So now I await yet another smart arse child rape comment dressed as humour.

    Excuse me whilst I vomit into the Tasman Sea in anticipation.

  212. JAWS permalink
    September 30, 2012 12:03 am

    By the way

    Thanks eg and ToM

    Yes I am an arrogant Cnut on a few subjects

    Sometimes I can’t take prisoners at all

  213. September 30, 2012 12:29 am

    “.Sometimes I can’t take prisoners at all.”
    Actually, he can`t take any. .. Sweet Dreams.

  214. el gordo permalink
    September 30, 2012 8:10 am

    Alan Jones has just made a complete fool of himself and not for the first time, but his observations on the monk are still worth considering.

    “His overweening weakness is his humility. You will never ever hear this bloke argue his ability, his virtue, or indeed his competence,” he said.

    “He is a man of incomparable integrity and conviction.”

  215. TB Queensland permalink
    September 30, 2012 9:20 am

    Alan Jones has just made a complete fool of himself and not for the first time

    And not the only one either … you fogot to mention the nasty brained comment he made, egg, … that Julia Gillard’s father died of shame … disgusting little man thing he is … and fully endorsed by the people at the meeting I understand too … said over a week ago …

  216. el gordo permalink
    September 30, 2012 9:55 am

    ‘you fogot to mention the nasty brained comment he made, egg, … ‘

    Yeah well, as I said, he made a complete fool of himself.

  217. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2012 9:56 am

    Everyone should be signing this.

    To not do so would indicate tacit support for the grub imo

    http://www.change.org/petitions/2gb-and-associated-advertisers-on-alan-jones-radio-program-immediately-terminate-the-contract-and-cease-association-with-alan-jones

    Endorsements about being a ‘man of incomparable integrity’ from a grub like that can tell us a lot

  218. TB Queensland permalink
    September 30, 2012 10:50 am

    Everyone should be signing this.

    This Queenslander just did!

  219. September 30, 2012 11:00 am

    This hypocrite just did too.

  220. TB Queensland permalink
    September 30, 2012 11:03 am

    I know, Wally’s, lolling on a boat somewhere but if he can post here surely he can condemn Alan Jones and sign the petition …?

    How come Turnbull has codemned Jones and we haven’t heard from Abbott … who’s the leader?

  221. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2012 11:04 am

    Cheers for that reb and TB

    Maybe I went over the top about the ‘tacit support’, but really, this is where our level of ‘debate’ has got to. It truly is despicable. And really got me upset.

  222. Tom R permalink
    September 30, 2012 11:17 am

    we haven’t heard from Abbott

    cos he said something nice about him, and they’re proving hard to find.

  223. TB Queensland permalink
    September 30, 2012 11:42 am

    Because Abbott was nice to the Pm in parlaiment he doesn”t have to say anything about Jones mealy mouthed comments it seems …

    Two different issue, methinks …

  224. el gordo permalink
    September 30, 2012 11:49 am

    Apparently Jones spoke for 58 minutes without notes… ad libbing is a risky venture in public life.

  225. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 30, 2012 12:00 pm

    Jones has apparently issued a humble apology. Fair enough too, his comments were in remarkably poor taste.

    It’s an odd popularity Jones has, he’d never have an audience in Melbourne. But in Sydney all the loudmouths, conspiracy theorists and spin merchants seem to find a grateful audience for their drivel.

    Melbourne people are a little more sophisticated – the western suburbs here aren’t quite as vast.

  226. TB Queensland permalink
    September 30, 2012 12:19 pm

    Jones has apparently issued a humble apology

    … and he will continueto do it!

    Three hits and your out … where I come from … verbal warning of what is acceptable (recorded in writing), written warning that the situation MUST change (signed copies to each party) … out the fkn door if you’re that incompetent or deliberately rocking the boat!

    If 2GB don’t act now then they are simply condoning Jones’ actions … the same as Tony Abbott … very quiet on BIG issues is our Tones … not a good look for a wannabe PM …

  227. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    September 30, 2012 12:25 pm

    “Three hits and your out”

    Fine with me, as long as we don’t apply that rule to grammar…”you’re”

  228. el gordo permalink
    September 30, 2012 1:00 pm

    Jones makes an appalling vaux par and the rusted ons demand the monk’s head on a platter. ‘Where’s Abbott?’ goes up the cry!

    Amusing.

  229. TB Queensland permalink
    September 30, 2012 1:54 pm

    Amusing.

    Only to people with no sense of a “fair go” … even Andrew Bolt has condemned Jones … whether you like Julia Gillard or not … NO-ONE deserves such incompassionate bile from anyone especially someone like Jones …

    Just who are his sponsors anyway?

  230. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 30, 2012 3:38 pm

    As for you Kitty I have called you a raving lunatic bolshie North Korean communist but you can drop the fucking outright lies that I have ever speculated on your
    male or female partner or a daughter or son or whatever.

    😯

    Who cares?

    Long live the speculation stereotypes.
    If I speak out about misogyny and sexism, I’m likely to be gay [not that there’s anything wrong with that anyway].

    I had just written a para with details of my partner [male] and children [3] and then deleted it as they have no interest in this blog and they have a right to their privacy. tony tells nothing of his life, domestic or otherwise, do you speculate about his family and sexuality, is he even male? 😉

    You are a lunatic Leftie to the same degree as you address me as a lunatic Rightie.

    Don’t include me in your lunacy!

    Yes I am an arrogant Cnut on a few subjects
    Sometimes I can’t take prisoners at all

    You are such a bully jaws, you rush in here and attack people that you disagree with in the most abusive ways, you’re even quite proud of it, yet have a huge glass jaw and sook big time when you get a bit of your own back.

    I’m almost out of live bait and we spotted 34 individual sharks late today
    Any volunteers…

    If you are unhappy about your domestic stuff being satirised, then don’t write about it. Why you feel the need to gloat about BMW’s and boating whilst talking of running people over in that BMW and feeding people to sharks [presumably tied up in a chaff bag] says more about you then us. I think you need to tune in to some relaxation music instead of alan jones in the mornings.

    I make no apologies because I think you have nothing to be sooking about.

  231. el gordo permalink
    September 30, 2012 4:10 pm

    ‘…is he even male?’

    Ah…yes.

  232. armchair opinionator permalink
    September 30, 2012 4:21 pm

    ‘…is he even male?’
    Ah…yes.

    And you know this… how, egg? You’ve met him in person?

  233. TB Queensland permalink
    September 30, 2012 4:32 pm

    Mrs Jaws put a deposit on a very ice {sic} new BMW today.

    Oh so your not all that wealthy then … my sister drives an alfa** 😛 … but she’s a smartarsed, decietful, Robber Baroness … cathlic protected, liar, cheat and artful thief …

    ** sarc alert … she does actually … why people think BMW’s are the symbol of wealth, I have no idea … just money pits … it’s not buying the bloody things its the maintenance costs …

  234. September 30, 2012 4:33 pm

    Toni…

  235. Ol' Sancty permalink
    September 30, 2012 4:44 pm

    Well fark me!!

    I go off and enjoy a rare premiership and when I return I find Kittylitter’s a closeted lesbo, Tony’s a Tigeress, and Alan Jones doesn’t think much of the PM.

    Ah well….

    Go you FKN Bloods!!!!!!

  236. Toni permalink
    September 30, 2012 4:44 pm

    😯

  237. James of North Melbourne permalink
    September 30, 2012 4:49 pm

    What are you wearing, Toni?

  238. September 30, 2012 4:49 pm

    George Pell’s sock puppet finally dropped the ball & logged on from an impostor device.

    Figures.

  239. September 30, 2012 4:50 pm

    “What are you wearing, Toni?”

    A cloud of shame.

  240. September 30, 2012 4:55 pm

    THE HANDBAGZ WERE FUCKEN AWESOME YESTERDAY !

    Hawthorn started to believe too much of their Victoriacentric press & commentary.

    The handbagz would’ve never done it without discarded Crow, Martin Matner, though. 😉

    * but seriously, they were great! best performing team in the finals & consistent all year.

  241. Toni permalink
    September 30, 2012 5:01 pm

    ‘What are you wearing, Toni?’

    A cheeky little chaff-bag number, light and off the shoulder.

  242. September 30, 2012 5:10 pm

    “..You will never ever hear this bloke argue his ability, his virtue, or indeed his competence,.“
    +
    Does Mr-Rabbit have any.?

  243. September 30, 2012 5:18 pm

    Jones, thinking he was clandestinely preaching to the choir, overstepped the mark…AGAIN.

    My favourite Jones idiocy was his screeching about the government making the police prevent non-existent trucks from the Convoy of No Consequence [featuring bandwagon humper de jour- Tony Mack] from entering Canberra to join the ‘throng’ (guffaw).

    I also like the Young Lib organiser’s outright denial…until he realised that there was recorded evidence of the stupid, taboo comments; whereupon he revised his apologetics to…”I didn’t hear it” & “you shouldn’t pick Alan’s comments apart”.

    Hilarious.

  244. JAWS permalink
    October 1, 2012 12:55 am

    Just came back onto range with my mini modem.

    Kitty

    1)”Wealth” I think was not in relation to you anyway. That was about 730. But limited on downs here
    2)James says you are a full on so I won’t go on about your social life. I didn’t know that since I only get limited downloading out here
    3) I think sharks are misunderstood . 2 hours ago we threw 20 kilos of cattle and lamb offal overboard. Just to attract some action . A bit quiet tonight.

    Do you have a nice swimsuit ?

    Strangely as I type there is slit of action about

  245. October 1, 2012 4:51 pm

    Andy muirhead jalied on child porn charges..

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-01/muirhead-jailed-on-child-pornography-charges/4289572

  246. October 1, 2012 5:03 pm

    Former ALP ‘heavyweight’ Bernard Finnigan, from nearby Mt Gambier, is headed in the same direction, reb.
    His name has only recently been publicised in SA, but it’s been well known around here for the last year or so since the police first raided his home & parliamentary office. At the time he was SA Police Minister.

    I know several people very well who went to the Catholic School in Mt Gambier with him. He is on the record, pumping himself up as a ‘servant of Christ’ as he was elected to the Legislative Council in SA.
    I hope he does hard time & lives every minute of it in fear.

  247. October 1, 2012 5:08 pm

    Hilarious, Port Power are yearning to plumb even lower depths, today anouncing Ch7 dickwit ‘Kochie’ as their new president. I’ve also read that Kevin Foley, the most hated man in SA (and former ALP treasurer) is gonna be on the board. Like people don’t already have enough reasons to hate the Portscum! 😆

    Funnily, they’re also sending a few discarded players to Richmond…to drag them down too. They can have Tambling back while they’re taking Knights also.

  248. October 1, 2012 5:09 pm

    sic…anouncing

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