Public Backlash over Alan Jones “Vile” Remarks Only Just Beginning.

Hi Reb

Alan Jones problem is that he preaches to a few hundred other right wing extremists and then thinks the whole population agree with him.

His audience represents at the very most just over 2% of our population. If his ratings were a TV shows he would have been axed years ago. He is given air by the rest of the MSM.

Sadly when I lived in Sydney I used to listen to his show and actually agree with a lot he had to say. My how things have changed.

Cheers.

Oh wait…look over there.

Keep up the pressure: 2GB have removed the sponsors names from their site but you can find them here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-2GB-and-its-sponsors/234353403262562

I agree that it’s not really a political issue.

It is both political and more than that. Of course it is political, as it was a political attack on a political opponent. And Labor will, rightfully, attack it for all it’s worth.

However, like so much of our current political debate, the grubbiness extends past pure politics to simple good taste, something that has been missing in huge quantities from one side of the spectrum for a number of years now.

And this side need to take a step back and reassess what damage the unhinging is having on society as a whole. Let’s hope that explains tabots uncommon absence from our airwaves since this began. Personally, I doubt that, I reckon it’s because he’s a gutless worm who doesn’t know how to react, without a wall handy.

News Ltd broke this story. Does that demonstrate that they’ve swapped sides?

Are they now the “unhate media”

* d’oh! reporter, not supporter!

But yeah, it kinda precludes an anti-leftist NewsLtd conspiracy. 😉

‘It’s utterly contemptible, yet we have the likes of Flaws (Jaws) and Tony here trying to make out that it’s all just some upset lefties having a go at poor Alan.’

Jaws can speak for himself, but my position today is exactly as I stated at the outset yesterday: “I don’t condone Jones’s words, not one bit, but I am amused by the outrageous outrage from his political opponents. It’s manna from heaven for Gillard Labor supporters.”

“I don’t condone Jones’s words, not one bit, but I am amused..

Thank god nobody cherry picks here 😉

as to ltdnews breaking the story. The journo had it, and was going to release it, no matter what. What is most interesting was that they waited until the midst of the Festival of the Boot, and after newspoll had finished. Purely coincidental of course 😉

I listened to an interview with the reporter today.

• News approved him joining the Young Liberals to attend this meeting, paid for the lot.
• He advised those present that he was a journalist, but assiduously avoided letting them know he was working rather than supporting.
• Recorded without permission.

That’s hardly the behaviour of an organisation that is hell bent on bringing down the government.

It’s just more proof that the media chases stories rather than vendettas.

Is it just me that’s heard far worse things said many times before?

*Not condoning

What started out as righteous indignation about hurtful comments by an enemy of the left towards a heroine of the left has morphed into a crusade to silence that enemy of the left.

Yes, its all very weird the way the leftards become so irate over nothing. They’re a sentimental lot.

“the vile attacks on me…”

What did he say about himself ❓

So here they are………………..

48 hours later and the Lefties are still hysterical.

Alan Jones has apologised once again this morning but the Left have to keep their “train full of outrage” chugging along being fueled by any tiny shred or the slightest link to Abbott.

How amusing

…but, but but…don’t you understand… that’s different….it was ALAN JONES!! who said those awful things.

Everyone knows Bob Ellis sometimes runs away with the hyperbole…and that’s just Bob (ya gotta love him).

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/cut-paste/a-little-uplifting-lecture-from-the-drunks-the-abusers-the-misogynists-and-the-haters/story-fn72xczz-1226486144580

Perhaps News Ltd just wants to sell papers, not simply “destroy a government”. In Gillard News and other media, have plenty of material to work with, when it comes to political dishonesty…and it clearly resonates with the public. They have observed her dishonesty.

Now I realise AO thinks Gillard should be supported for withstanding the onslaught of critics.

On the other hand, I think there is plenty of criticism of her that is entirely legitimate, and no one should go any easier on her because she happens to be a female
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The worst example in history is the woman who said “I hope she gets laid” about a child (whose father had also died), Bindi Irwin.

Does she endorse any produce that can be boycotted? What was the exact nature of her apology?

ALAN Jones age 71. Avergae (sic) lifespan for an Australian male age 79. Patience my pretties #Auspol bahahaha.

Rebecca Mifsud, wife of minister Chris Bowen, retweets on August 31:
Oh Yes………………….perfectly acceptable……………….LOL

Then we have Deveny………………..

“HAD nightmare they sat me next to a chinless, ex QLD cop with a face of a rapist who refused to go to the stolen generation apology #qanda”

Seeks humour from his physical features, tarnishes same with a whiff of corruption or heavy handedness, and adds for good measure a similarity to a rapist…………………..Deveny is a real charming piece of work.

“ANZAC Day. Men only enlisted to fight for the money, for the adventure or because they were racist.”

So all ANZACs are rascists are they ? Of course that includes Kiwis (perhaps even some of those coffee coloured maori boys)

Then of course we have her quip about an 11 year old child needing to be laid.

Yes Kitty ……………..Deveny certainly is worth defending

ROFLMAO

I don’t repeat ‘opposition talking points’. You mentioned school halls.

AO, you now have to identify where the opposition has ever pointed to the billion spent on private school performing arts centres, or the billion in management fees, that were only applicable because the government chose to award all the contracts to major construction companies.

I recall they were my main points.
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By the way, Jones is a grub who would never get an audience in Melbourne. But his poor taste remark is hardly the worst ever uttered.

There is plenty of feigned outrage going on, because it involves Jones.

Well AO, you’ve already verballed me once earlier today. So I suppose this latest example can be taken in that context.

I haven’t seen too many supporting Jones’ comment, has anyone?

It’s simply a huge over reaction. It’s typical of the excitement that stimulates ALP barrackers, it probably comes from the union roots. They also use exaggeration and misrepresentation to excite the masses into near hysteria.

Myopic conservative Boltsturbating.

Ah…………………..Minipiglo weighs in with his one standard for Jones and another for that darling of the ALP Bob Ellis.

Ah yes the delightful Bob Ellis. The same guy who wrote that the female cadet who was filmed having sex and Skyped at the ADFA should have expected that sort of thing.

But that’s the Left and their quagmire of bile

‘So much so, that I can feel a random banning coming on.’

For christ’s sake don’t even think it.

“And yet Flaws thinks he’s such a great guy…”

Really…………………………..scroll up and you might find this………..

“I thought he had the Freedom to be a Shithead. ”
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As for the other matter…………..well its your Blog

“……………without even contemplating how offensive the remarks actually are………….Instead, if Flaws keeps up with his bullshit then he’ll just be banned AGAIN!”

As I have already stated Jones is a shithead you must mean that pointing out the double standards is off limits is it ?

“What, you buy the Jones’ line that somehow Gillard is “off limits?””

No……….if you care to read above I am specifically referring to the double standard of not criticising the darling of the Left and Bob Carr’s speech writer Bob Ellis (from 2 weeks ago) and the tenuous link that the Left is attempting to create between Jones and Abbott.

There is no link for either of them yet the Left is trying to create one on the one hand whilst ignoring the other.

You just hate me because I think Julie Bishop is hot

Thinking that many Labor supporters and other left-leaning folk in the media, on blogs, and in the twitterverse are overreacting to Jones’s comments is quite a legitimate position to take in this “debate”. You might not agree, and it could be the entirely wrong (or right) position, but so what? There are already places where everyone agrees with each other, and dissidents are labelled “trolls”. This place, to reb’s credit, has never been one of those.

“Heck you also called me a “poisonous maggot” the other day, and I didn’t really take offence at that.”

After you implied I as a pedophile you might recall.

Plus another from someone else calling me an ignorant prick

OK lets move on

“Instead it is full of mind-numbing nonsense as Jones’ acolytes try every trick in the book to downplay what is sadly a typically disgusting comment from their man.”

“Downplay it” ?

I said he was a Shithead.

I’m trying to point out the the ridiculous link the Left is trying to make between Jones and Abbott whilst ignoring the Ellis Carr link.

After all if Abbott has to apologise for Jones remarks so should Carr for Ellis’ equally pathetic posts.

Yeah…could we have a clean slate?

“…c’mon jaws you were all over the shop, bringing up every little thing you could think of. “Now, don’t blame us because the media didn’t make a fuss about it at the time.”

It was I think the first thing or perhaps second I posted this morning. If thats all over the shop then so be it.

So the media failed to make a fuss but I thought they were rather consistently the Hate Media……..Seems not so then

“Where are these comments to be found BTW?”

On Ellis’ personal blog……………..which like you I’m not going to go searching for ya.

“You’d think, like the public that the rusted ons would also be disgusted at jones instead of defending him. ”

So how many times does one need to point out I have already referred to him as a Shithead ?

“Actually IIRC, didn’t bob ellis publishers have to pulp a book because tony abbott [and costello] sued for some minor misrepresentation of them? ”

Yes in fact. A rather minor defamation involving their wives.

So minor it cost a mere $277,000 and resulted in the pulping of the entire book run and its rewritten version took 3 months to hit the shelves.

‘Whatever happened to “a kinder, gentler polity”?’

It has always been so, only the interwebys have altered the discourse.

Yes you Bolshies are correct

I shall now reform my sense of humour and laugh when I get called a pedophile and an ignorant prick in future

By the way

I thought we were moving on

” Whatever happened to “a kinder, gentler polity”?”

Personally, I’m nonstop kind and gentle, polite too.

But when lying politicians deceive the public, some sensible types become less tolerant of the liars!

AO, I think it’s fine that you’ve decided to have a protest vote in favour of Gillard. But the fact is that there is far too much attention paid to her “no carbon tax” commitment. This is to the detriment of all the other examples of dishonesty she has exhibited.

Gillard made a written commitment to Wilkie in order to win her home in the Lodge. She knew exactly what she was doing and exactly the commitment she was making.

With complete dishonour she broke her agreement.

In my opinion, that’s the example that should be front and centre.

I think some people are oriented towards being devious rather then open, and the PM is so inclined.
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Her duplicity over asylum seekers also renders her unworthy of support.

The Daily Terror got the scoop…

‘THE publisher of the newspaper that broke the Alan Jones story has issued a legal threat to Fairfax Media for alleged breaches of copyright over the report, while the reporter who wrote the story is also considering legal action.’

‘Legal counsel for Nationwide News, publisher of The Sunday Telegraph which broke the story in its first edition late last Saturday, has written to Fairfax’s editorial director Garry Linnell and editors of The Sydney Morning Herald and Sun Herald warning them against infringing copyright in future.’

Nick Leys SMH

Pretty lame effort by flaws(ip) of ‘look over there’, but really, trying to relate stupid, pathetic and even malevant remarks made by bloggers, not associated with the Labor party, and an old speech writer, not associated with the Labor party except for the speeches he has written, apparently means a close friend of the loto and influential person within the liberal party who wants to try and control the national debate can say this shit and get away with it. Nice try, but big time fail. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Please note that labor have, all along, called for his kind of debate to return to normal, from whichever side it emanates, left or right.

jones is a bully boy who has been exposed as the thin skinned whimper he is, and tabot has ridden his coat-tails since his elevation to leader. The are intrinsicatly entwined, in a manner totally unlike any of the straw men put up here who have already been disowned and rebuked by Labor. As Laws slurred out last night

JOHN LAWS: Because he espouses the virtues of the Liberal Party

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3602376.htm

All these other straw men don’t ‘espouse the virtues of the Labor Party’ They might be lefties, they might even have written speeches for them. But they are not aligned politically down a divide like jones is, they haven’t made speeches to Labor conferences urging younger members of Labor to sink down to this level of debate. They may be lefties, but they are not aligned with Labor. Even Ellis, when he ran for office, ran as an independent, jones ran as a liberal. And, they have all paid for and been condemned for their stupid remarks.

jones is being condemended currently because his most recent comments really take it to a new level of low, and because he is a serial offender, who has the biggest soap-box to which spruik his hate from.

And tabot is copping it because jones specifically espouces the virtues of the liberal party. The libs have used his platform as their own for years. they cannot just ignore it now and say ‘bad boy’, then continue on like nothing has changes. Things have changed. jones ‘crossed the line’ And he is now paying for it.

And so will tabot, if he isn’t big enough to take it head on. Simply saying that politicians should ‘conduct our political debate in a civil language’ would sound so much better coming from someone not responsible for abusing Bernie Banton, Nicola Roxon and Julia Gillard and using terms such as ‘that’s bullshit’ and ‘shit happens’. It is as convincing as an apology from jones.

Swannie still gets it

The Treasurer, Wayne Swan, said that given Mr Abbott was ”the most aggressive and abusive leader in our history, it’s little wonder that people like Mr Jones feel free to fill our airwaves with his poison”.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/now-broadcaster-told-to-say-sorry-over-vermin-comment-20121002-26xia.html#ixzz28B8v7m7U

“Please note that labor have, all along, called for his kind of debate to return to normal, from whichever side it emanates, left or right.”

ROFLMAO

Oh really…………………………why not not cast your mind back to how the Labor Government viciously attacked one of its own in Kevin Rudd during the last leadership challenge. They called him everything under the sun to destroy his reputation because only by assassinating his character so completely could they somehow legitimise overthrowing a mid term PM whose poll numbers they would now kill for .

So dont try and say the ALP have, “all along, called for his kind of debate to return to normal”

Seems to me Kevin Rudd being the victim of “stupid, pathetic and even malevant remarks”
means you TomR are making the “Pretty lame effort” with the “big time fail”.

Is Jones a member of the Liberal party?

He is their loudest megaphone, their biggest admirer, and, although he might not be now, he did run for office as a liberal.

“I’m trying to recall just how viscous and nasty those comments were………..”

Why am I not surprised ?

How about psychopath for starters ?

“A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.”

So don’t even try to say the ALP is a cleanskin.

ALP = Massive Fail since it will stoop to the level of eating its own no matter the cost.

Laurie Oakes and Alan Jones hate each others guts.

Peter Van Onsolen (Right Wing Nutjob) gave it to Jones really big time on Skynews last night.

It was unrelenting

psychopath lol

That’s what you got

Compared with laughing about a fathers death. Get a grip. Politics can be hard, and nasty. But this is whole new world

psychopath. Meanies ROFL

“That’s what you got”

Oh well that’s settled then ay TomR

Marking you with “Massive Fail, Must Try Harder”

ROFLMAO

Oh yes online petitions

About as secure as an online poll when you have Getup in the background

If you’re a follower of US politics you might be getting a sense you’ve seen all this before, including the (non-)apology and the boycott.

Being not a listener of jones, I wouldn’t know what happened way back when. I’m just going on him grandstanding about the PM not being ‘brave’ enough to appear with him, and then, when she finally did, all he could wine about was the PM of hte country being ten minutes late for Him.

Guess I’m just ‘MSU up again, or, if she was such a regular, why was he crying to get her on, just to priss over ten minutes of his precious time?

Well, why don’t you provide this ‘regularity’ for us, as all I’ve heard from jones is that the PM is too afraid to go on his show.

So, bolt was infatuated, until she became PM, which meant he change his tune on pretty much everything he wrote there

I’ll note bolt is one who also complains about being ignored 😉

still waiting (and while we’re on DeJaVu, some listening music)……………

Well…………..go get Jone’s diary and I’ll find the on air telephone conversations and in studio interviews for you.

I’m not your link slave

She was quite a regular when she was a Minister and was the beneficiary of high praise from Jones at the time.

“She was quite a regular when she was a Minister ”

waiting………

Luckily, I’m patient 😉

“You’re kind of your own little fact free zone aren’t you Flaws….”

FMD

I didnt say as PM I said as Minister

In 30 months as a MINISTER, Ms Gillard appeared on Jones’ show 10 times.

Wow! Does this mean the US lefties are going to give up trying to vilify Sarah Palin? Or maybe the are really, really sorry for the Aunt Jemima jibes at Condi Rice. Or for the gutless attacks on Anne Romney. Or maybe they are just stinking hypocrites.

No, Splatter. When the Left do it, it’s “satire”. Don’t you get it? You wouldn’t. You’re (maybe) a Conservative.

Here’s how it works. If a left wing commentator racially or misogynistically abuses a Conservative, it’s all in fun, you see, and the Conservative person needs to get a spine.

If a commenter on a blog repeats a false and defamatory accusation about a Conservative politician’s father about avoiding the perils of war, that’s entirely fair and moreover, the onus is on the contradictor to prove that it’s false.

However, if a Conservative commentator makes an off the cuff (yet pointed, nasty, and ill-timed) comment about a Labor female politician*, he should be banned from broadcasting for life, his (maybe) homosexuality is open for rampant mockery, and to ensure that you don’t get tarred with the same brush you should renounce your own particular conservatism, perform an act of contrition, declare your belief in climate change and the Carbon Tax as a solution to this grave problem, march in a peace march, and join your kids up to the Young Fabian Society.

*Never mind that she both personally and politically has plenty to be ashamed of not that that was the cause of her father’s death because it wasn’t.

And as you married/partnered men here have found through long experience, you don’t want to make women angry on things important to them. You might just find yourselves being judged and found wanting or is that unwanted and unnecessary!

You of course mean people, don’t you? I mean women wouldn’t act any differently from an emotional perspective just because they are women? Would they?

SOBS

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/sobs_sisters/#commentsmore

“I suppose if you keep shooting your mouth off you’ll hit something eventually …”

I have no idea what you are rambling on about

However what happened to Kyle is no indicator.

The competition in FM is much greater than in AM. In Sydney there are now effectively only 2 AM commercial stations of any note they being 2GB and 2UE with 2CH and 2SM well in the rear by some astronomical distance.

The demographic is not even similar between the younger FM to AM audience. Jone’s sponsors like Mercedes, Harvey Norman (advertising mostly furnishings not electronics as on AM), Bing Lee ( advertising mainly whitegoods)are advertising to older demographics.

Jones has been in this territory before. He’ll emerge.

I suspect a few sponsors are exercising “break clauses” to enable renegotiation of the volume of advertising they are already contracted to. I know in a belt tightening world I would be opportunistic like that.

Anyway, asking a child when did she first have sex and getting a response that she had been raped didn’t deter Gillard from reappearing on Kyles program later.

I’ve got nothing to retract as we need to wait and see about Jones

I do note that TomR and Reb are very quiet as far as whether Julia was a regular on Jones or not.

I now expect to be told that 10 appearances in 30 months does not meet their personal definitions of “regular”

But do I expect to see a retraction about being a fact free zone ?

Not at all.

You asked for the Link

There it is……………..

Cant you count either ?

Gillards media centre

Oh, I worked it out, did you?

Perhaps you can highlight the list of jones appearances there. There was only one at 2GB, and that wasn’t even jones when “The deputy prime minister braved the lion’s den” on that occasion

I already gave you 2 specifics in the very immediate lead up to being crowned PM.

Twice in what 3 months in 2010. And remember she was not the PM.

I’m not going to play your game I’ve got money to make.

You either follow the Links and count them or you dont. Its upto you

There is no one sentence detailing how many times

So what exactly are the New Rules then?

Did they change sometime overnight ?

So what exactly are the New Rules then?

RULE 1: When you make a claim, follow it up with links that actually support your argument

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

“When you make a claim, follow it up with links that actually support your argument”

That’s not just funny but friggin hilarious coming from you.

How many times have we watched you tie yourself up and run off to the Café for weeks at a time.

ROFLMAO

The link only has a few articles from Gillard back in 2010, most of the rest are more recent from other ministers

Maybe the wrong link was used?

‘… and run off to the Café for weeks at a time.’

That’s me…resident troll at the kaf.

http://ministers.deewr.gov.au/search/site/alan%20jones?f%5B0%5D=im_field_minister_1%3A58

Gillard was a Jones regular,

I’ll give you that one, but hardly

billing and cooing with the old bastard

😯

I can live with that reb 😉

jones 0

The Mob 104,803 (and counting)

http://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/2gb-and-advertisers-immediately-cease-association-with-alan-jones-over-died-of-shame-comment-boycott2gb

Interesting reading those old transcripts though (thanks for finally getting them up there jaws). While combative, they don’t display the level of outright hatred and animosity he has shown since the last election, and the beginning of the Great Unhingement. A hatred that has finally coalesced into what we saw the other day, the lowest level of ‘debate’ witnessed in our time (no matter how old you are)

What brought this on, I wonder, old age, or is he just a really bad loser?

Today’s news reminds me that so many of those that have been defending Gillard against the level of criticism she (generally legitimate) criticism she receives are the very same people who made the most outrageous and unsubstantiated comments about Kathy Jackson because of her personal relationship.

People with a mindless political commitment simply lose sight of their hilarious hypocrisy.

You’re absolutely fucking with me aren’t you yomm. To equate joking about a persons personal tragedy for political points to pointing out that jackson isn’t the squeaky clean she makes out to be.

Tell me you are joking 😯

The big allegation by the self-confessed mud thrower Wicks, is that Jackson somehow put pressure on her partner, SDP Lawler, to put pressure on FWA Investigator Nassios to corrupt or distort his own findings about Thomson.

Lawler and Nassios shared an office apparently, had coffee together, did favours for each other according to Wicks… but he has not a shred of evidence for this, other than his vibrant imagination/wishful thinking.

It’s interesting, would any male union official have been subjected to the same personal scrutiny of her personal live as Jackson. Uniondom is a complete boys club, despite the gloss the put on the front of the store with decent people like Ged Kearney.

Speaking of 😆

Sheehan has style, very readable….

‘Most Australians do not like a brawl involving 100,000 people against one. Nor do they like disproportion. And here we have an attempt to ruin someone over an impromptu remark, made at a private function, on the spur of the moment and later withdrawn, together with a public apology.’

Jones was a goose, there is no denying, but the uproar is over the top.

I love TomR’s definition of “pointing out”.

Sounds like Mr Gorsky Mr-Armchair is hen-pecked.

Typical of some male attitudes

“people call me a [insert whatever label – feminist, lesbian, ballbreaker etc] whenever I express sentiments that distinguish me from a doormat”

Just two people who will try to respect and support what is important to each other as different but equal people. Not always easy but we’ve got our individual strengths and weaknesses covered and on looking around at friend’s relationships, we’re no better or worse.

I would much rather have the emphatic biases of Jones, the gauche excesses of Kyle Sandilands, the squadron of earnest progressive clones at the ABC, than this gutless, sanctimonious wash of collective, opportunistic blackmail.”

hehe, I love a collective uprising against one the might and power of the media to manipulate people through hatred, fear and division.

It’s interesting, would any male union official have been subjected to the same personal scrutiny of her personal live as Jackson.

Only if the partner of said union official didn’t declare an enormous conflict of interest and actually interfered in the investigative process that his own agency conducts into his partner’s organisation. Then the partner must get shunted interstate because he’s brought the whole investigative body into disrepute.

“…Women bottoms partners are never so happy as when they have just had a good seeing to…”

??? i have no idea what you are on about there, it doesn’t make sense. You might need to explain.

And here we have an attempt to ruin someone over an impromptu remark, made at a private function, on the spur of the moment and later withdrawn, together with a public apology.

hehe, must be speaking about an entirely different or fictional event.

“The intellectual snobbery is a hoot.”

Indeed.

‘Do these dickheads really think we are that fkn gullible …’

The average punter falls into that category and may be swayed by propaganda coming out of Limited Nooze.

The average punter has no serious interest in political minutiae and will accept that the monk is no slouch with a handsome wife and beautiful daughters. It has been intelligently designed by Nooze to give their preferred option a bounce in the polls.

In view of all this, I listened to Alan Jones this morning. Shrill, shouting, self-important, it made me glad that I no longer live in Sydney.

For him to get any audience shows odd taste, but for him to be popular says plenty about the city itself.