Tony Abbott “Dies of Shame” in Question Time

Apparently something happened in parliament today.

Seriously, though, aren’t people getting fed up with both sides fighting over the moral “high ground” while simultaneously plumbing the deepest depths of disgusting rhetoric? I know I am.

These “discussions” of moral and/or ethical questions should not be occurring in parliament at all. Unless someone in parliament has broken the law, or transgressed some written rule regarding parliamentary behaviour, the debate should be about policy. The rest is just moralising by holier-than-thou moralisers about unwritten and arbitrary standards of behaviour – including Slipper’s texts and Abbott’s misogyny.

“the mysoginy war”

I’m with James. I struggle with the spelling too because it’s not a word I’d ever used much if at all. (Does that make me a misogynist?)

These “discussions” of moral and/or ethical questions should not be occurring in parliament at all…

The rest is just moralising by holier-than-thou moralisers about unwritten and arbitrary standards of behaviour – including Slipper’s texts and Abbott’s misogyny…

All very good except you forget to mention that the moralising, the public statements couched in sexist/misogynist terminology, the bedroom watching, the sexual voyeurs all come from the conservative side. They introduce this kind of personal moralising as an attack every chance they get. It is their method of operations, without that the fibs would be mute in parliament.

To put it another way: parliament is the last place I’d be looking for guidance on standards of behaviour.

Wrong …

Not wrong. Our system is based on the rule of law, where everyone is equal before the law. Full stop. Being anti-social is not illegal, nor should it be. “Polite society” is a fabrication of moralisers.

Traditional views might be old fashioned, you may not like them AO.

But they’re not simply “women hating”, they’re not misogynist.

Traditional views might be old fashioned, you may not like them AO.
But they’re not simply “women hating”, they’re not misogynist</i.

So what are these 'traditional views' then tomm?

AO, I have a daughter, I suppose I hope that she doesn’t lose her virginity in the backseat of a car following big, drunken night at a trendy club. I hope she has loving, stable relationships, and maybe not even too many of them.

That’s a traditional father’s opinion, and it isn’t hugely different to the views Abbott expressed about his own daughters, which have been widely condemned for some reason.

Do you find my comment about my wishes for my daughter “misogynistic”, because Abbott’s were called that.
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Slipper resigned, good. This genuine sleaze should not be the most senior parliamentarian.

The ALP lost big time today, because –
• They defended this unpleasant misogynist, and he’s gone anyway
• Gillard lost the plot, and alienated plenty of suburbia
• She launched the most bitter, personal attack, and will now hypocritically lament the loss of parliamentary standards
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Leigh Sales had a fair crack at Anthony Albanese, standby for a range of barrackers claiming that she’s been got at by News Ltd… or something.

Like it or not AO, I believe young men are more inclined to prey on young women than vice versa.

Though I hope my son also shows great care in relationships.

But I don’t believe I’m “misogynist” if I’m more anxious about the whereabouts of my daughter if she stays out until 3 or 4am.

I don’t accept that these types of “traditional family values” are misogynistic. They’re actually quite common in families. I don’t think Gillard gets this.

…and by the way, just to clarify…

I expect to get anxious about my son for different reasons, such as the random violence in cities. But I don’t think he will have the same risks with sexual predators.

Quote Of The Day: Life is what happens to us while we are making other plans.

Just watching a replay of the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe. The clerk of course leading in the winning horse-jockey combination is a woman, riding – wait for it – side-saddle!

Tradition? Or, sexism/misogyny/patriarchy? I think all you penis-owners know the answer to that. DONT YOU!?

This is she . . .

I have a feeling the embedded media won’t be able to ignore the Sinking Of TheSlipper, as much as they’d like to after today’s futile show of support. Much hilarity. 😆

“(what a silly argument)”

Yes. 😉

if you DON”T see it you don’t get it

Yes, that’s it TB, they don’t see it, they live in the world of male privilege. They like it and use it to their own advantage. They are oblivious to the sexism that is encountered on a daily basis by females because they are part of it. They prefer to work with other blokes and blokes rules because blokes ‘get’ them. Pretty scary and uncomfortable when women come along ‘destroying the joint’.

Quote Of The Day MKII: “(Magna Carta is) the greatest constitutional document of all times – the foundation of the freedom of the individual against the arbitrary authority of the despot.”

I disagree with the anti-social way you behave, but I defend to the death your right to behave that way. ~ ToSY 2012.

But then turn around and recommend the party behaves the opposite toward the voting public.?
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Where have I recommended anything? I just say it as I observe it. It’s not my recommendation or wish, if I had my way we’d know all about their religious and business/industry affiliations and allegiances before we voted.

misandry is a word

…and the examples used by Gillard today also don’t represent a hatred of women, they may represent a dislike of Gillard.

Oh I’m sure that tony has a good relationship with women that he can dominate and control, women who don’t compete with him, like the females in his family and the subordinates in his workplace.

He attacks gillard in a very gendered way, one that insults all women. His public policies [if allowed] are based upon misogynist religious views in regard to females and their right to control and choose what they do with their own bodies.

Abbott only expressed a view about his daughters, he doesn’t have any sons.

Fundamentally AO, his view isn’t particularly out of kilter with the way I feel about my daughter. But it’s up to him to choose exactly how to express the sentiment.

All in all, generally fathers feel protective of their daughters and don’t wish them to fall into a series of relationships.
That’s not creepy or misogynist.
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…and if it’s only some types of women Abbott doesn’t like, then it’s not “misogyny”. It’s more like the way lots of women apparently feel about Abbott. They don’t like his aggressiveness, his extreme competiveness. Maybe he don’t appreciate those characteristics in his political opponents either.

Fundamentally AO, his view isn’t particularly out of kilter with the way I feel about my daughter. But it’s up to him to choose exactly how to express the sentiment.

And he expresses it in a way that women find offensive, don’t you get it? Everything he says and the way that he says it, women find offensive.

It’s up to your daughter to choose how she lives her life and what she does with her own body, you don’t own her and her sexuality is hers to express, not yours. Her virginity or lack of, is not for a father to judge, condemn or see as an extension of his own male pride. You can always support her and protect her, no matter what she chooses to do, whatever mistakes, failures and successes she makes, including the sexual ones, the same as you would for a son.

Interesting to hear Marcuse concede that Marxist revolution hadn’t led to communism as Marx predicted it would, but instead in many cases had led to fascism.

Perhaps snacty should step away from his prejudice for a sec 😉

Labor is going to cop a bit in the short term, cos the media just cannot work out that they have been had again. But what will remain, is Gillard standing in Parliament, calling tabot a sexist and misogynist, and then backing it up with examples.

Whether misogynist is the absolutely correct term is moot at this point, it is there. In the same way that the media has labelled the PM with the ‘liar’ tag, Labor have now hung the misogynist one about tabots neck.

And the poor petals here complain about it now ‘getting personal. 😆

The opposition have been playing the person since they LOST the last election. Too late to complain now that Labor have finally taken their gloves off and hit back. These gutless worms reckon they wanted a fight, but a soon as a shot is fired back in anger, they run to the hills. Piss weak, like all schoolyard bullies turn out to be.

PM Julia Gillard:

I will not be lectured about sexism and misogyny by this man, I will not.

And the Government will not be lectured about sexism and misogyny by this man. Not now, not ever.

The Leader of the Opposition says that people who hold sexist views and who are misogynists are not appropriate for high office.

Well, I hope the Leader of the Opposition has got a piece of paper and he is writing out his resignation.

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Then, of course I was offended too by the sexism, by the misogyny of the Leader of the Opposition cat-calling across this table at me as I sit here as Prime Minister.

‘If the Prime Minister wants to politically speaking make an honest woman of herself’, something that would never have been said to any man sitting in this chair.

I was offended when the Leader of the Opposition went outside in the front of Parliament and stood next to a sign that said “Ditch the witch”.

I was offended when the Leader of the Opposition stood next to a sign that ascribed me as a man’s bitch.

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With respect, I’d say to the Leader of the Opposition, after a long personal association including attending Mr Slipper’s wedding, it would be interesting to know whether the Leader of the Opposition was surprised by these text messages.

He certainly is in a position to speak more intimately about Mr Slipper than I am and many other people in this Parliament given this long personal association.

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Then, of course, the Leader of the Opposition comes into this place and says and I quote “Every day the Prime Minister stands in this Parliament to defend this Speaker will be another day of shame for this Parliament. Another day of shame for a Government which should already have died of shame”.

Where has that phrase come from?

Can I indicate to the Leader of the Opposition the Government is not dying of shame. My father did not die of shame.

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But whenever people make up their minds about those questions, what I won’t stand for, what I will never stand for, is the Leader of the Opposition coming into this place and peddling a double standard.

Peddling a standard for Mr Slipper he would not set for himself, peddling a standard for Mr Slipper he has not set for other members of his frontbench, peddling a standard for Mr Slipper that has not been acquitted by the people who have been sent out to say the vilest and most revolting things like his former Shadow parliamentary secretary, Senator Bernardi.

I will not ever see the Leader of the Opposition seek to impose his double standard on this Parliament. Sexism should always be unacceptable. We should conduct ourselves as it should conduct ourselves as it should be always unacceptable.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-09/gillard-vs-abbott-on-the-slipper-affair/4303618

Some genius said

Labor have now hung the misogynist one about tabots neck.

And now it’s gone VIRAL 🙂

“Watching a female Prime Minister tear apart the male leader of the Opposition with such aplomb, composure – but most importantly armed with a brilliantly impressive set of insults – backed up with dates and times of when each shocking comment was said – was the best card Gillard, ever the political animal, could have played in such a situation,” the reporter said.

http://www.news.com.au/national/gillards-misogynist-abbott-blast-echoes-around-world/story-fncynjr2-1226492464967

“brilliant political pivot” cleverly shifted the focus of the entire news story.’

This is the crux of the matter, the PM has successfully turned a disaster into positive spin.

The barrackers should record that speech and use it to console themselves after the election – when Labor is struggling to scrape together sufficient MPs to form a credible opposition. 😉

I prefer my female prime ministers less – what’s the word? – whiney screechy.

‘Do we really want Australia to become a misandry medieval theocracy?’

There…fixed it.

Hilarious!

Abbottlickers reckon that having their boy get strips torn off him for being a senseless prat is a net positive for him!

I dunno how they do it, but they always contort their brains into secreting a silver lining for Abbott. Quite a feat of Olympic level mental gymnastics!

Ahh, the compassionate enthralled right. 🙄

Abbott going back to the ‘recently popular’ “died of shame” quip was a stroke of pure genius. * guffaw

The rusted-on Abbotteers love that punchline…who cares about the rest of the electorate 😯

The rusted-on Abbotteers love that punchline

You mean the misogynists? (oops, ‘traditionalists’) 😉

http://izismile.com/2010/05/28/very_sexist_ads_from_the_50s_24_pics.html

I agree with you, in principle, Tony. We shouldn’t be looking to the government of the day (or the Opposition) to endorse or disendorse acceptable standards of behaviour. They should be there to ‘manage’ the ship & keep it above water; not to school the wretched in manners.

My antagonisms are more directed towards the apparent stupidity of Abbott’s reiterating unwise words…& the evident observation by supporters that doing so was a winning strategy that makes his rectal sunbeam even more appealing to the public.

‘“Hysterical” is itself a sexist term which is presumably why you italicised it, Tony.’

Is it? Cultural Marxism Political Correctness is sooo confusing.

Abbott says he will accept Slipper’s vote.

Like he’s gonna get it lol

‘Sexism is a cancer eating at our society, inflicting misery on millions of people every day.’

In Saudia Arabia, Afghanistan and Egypt perhaps, but not here.

Well let’s see…

• Gillard was told about Slipper’s unsavoury history
• She knew he had a record of rorting his expenses
• She was counselled by caucus colleagues about Slipper
• She knew she needed to break her written word to Wilkie
• She chose to appoint Slipper as Speaker

Rather than acknowledge her own singular role in all this, she’s attacked Abbott.

Have I missed anything?

You have some BIG shocks coming up, Ser Bee.

Lead characters aren’t sacred in Westeros.

‘Have I missed anything?’

No.

Politics has never been so colourful…the leading protagonists in a duel to the bitter end…winner takes the spoils.

Have I missed anything?

yeah, abbott’s history of sexism and misogyny, past and present.

lol, all of a sudden, yomm gets out the dictionary 😯

who do I hate?

Marcel ❓

Marcel

No, although I suspect he hates me and the fact that that troublesome GBR is still there.

Hang on…..who do I hate?

So your personal attacks on myself, past and present, more personally offensive and abusive than those given to your male opponents with whom you differ politically [some sensitivity and understanding shown as to differences] have just been a figment of my imagination?

Sexist perhaps AO, but I don’t think he meets the definition of “misogynist”. Is all sexism “misogynist”?

I don’t think so tomm a lot of it is simply an acceptance and defence of inherent male privilege. This anti-PC BS is just code for male backlash of what they see as threats to their self awarded superiority and the systems they utilise to entrench it in society. To me, it has become a misogyny writ large.

Yes, I think that for anyone to be sexist, even the male womaniser who professes to ‘love’ women, there has to be an element of misogyny in it.

There is not evidence that he “hates women” per se.

[wiki] …Misogyny is the hatred or dislike of women or girls. According to feminist theory, misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including sexual discrimination, denigration of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification of women.

Sounds like tony to me.

Also, he is strongly religious and all religions oppress all women IMO, any male or female who accepts the dictates of their religion must be accepting of the misogyny and sexism that man created and organised religion contains.
Tony abbott [among other male politicians] seeks to impose his religious worldview upon all australian women, even those who don’t share his religious belief, through political power.

Ahem. It’s the Strawman Party, isn’t it?

Especially when snidey personal potshots are camouflaged as political difference.

I once called TomR a ‘sweetheart’ and he wasn’t offended, but obviously you see the same word in a different light.

yes, funny that, seeing we are of different genders, is that the “some of my bestest enemies are black” defence?

So your personal attacks on myself, past and present, more personally offensive and abusive than those given to your male opponents with whom you differ politically [some sensitivity and understanding shown as to differences] have just been a figment of my imagination?

Offense is subjective. If you are offended, bad luck. I don’t set out to offend. Abusive is objective. I don’t believe I have ever been abusive to you or anyone else for that matter.

I don’t discriminate in how I approach my argument to anyone personally, but I do on the basis of what they say. Adrian and Shayne Chester were two who, for different reasons, I reckon got it worse than you ever have. Nature (although I’ve never been certain as to gender there) probably copped it worse than you too.

You, to the extent that you “cop it”, cop it for reasons of your method of argument.

Let’s look at the current argument as an example. As pointed out above, misogyny means hatred of women. Hatred is an extraordinarily strong term to use in regards to anyone. You use it all the time. It is unnecessary. And unnecessarily aggressive. So for my part I give it back in kind.

But I don’t hate you, Kittylitter. To me, you are an online character. I could no more hate you than I could love anyone online. How could one form such emotions of someone they don’t know?

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/restaurants-and-bars/restaurant-removes-misogynist-urinals-20121010-27cvx.html

Example, Kittylitter?

Not playing your silly game this time james.

I do recall a couple of prize insults that made it to the “praise” section of Gutter Trash…

That’s so subjective reb, are you against free speech? [or whatev bolt says].

We’re not in court, Reb. If Kittylitter would like to bring a suit, she is welcome.

ROFL louder, is this comedy hour?

Kittylitter? Got any? At all? Most people remember the basics of being victims of abuse.

as I do, i remember personal abuse of myself and other commenters right back to tim dunlop’s days, then joni’s and also all of reb’s blogs. you have a long history.

but i’m not trawling through the years of threads to find them and I’m not sure that I can. Do we have access to reb’s previous blogs?.

“guttertrash.wordpress.com is no longer available.”

Why don’t we just suffice with the memory test, others here have seen and read james comments over the years.

Anyone else think there has been a history of personal abuse, or do I just imagine it due to gender and sensitivity/subjectivity?

Example, TomR? This will be fun.

You do realise that reb killed the previous site don’t you, which makes it hard to link to comments about you putting me in hospital, or my being a ‘prized dumb fuck’. But I guess you don’t recall them 😉

“Snacty and ToSY have a track record in siding themselves with Tony Abbott’s sexism and mysoginy without any shadow of a doubt kittylitter…..”

You’ve been baiting me for a while now, reb, and I have refused to bite. But I’ve reached my limit. Based on that load of absolute bullshit I’d just like to say: Catch youse all later.

I got abused often as a footballer

(GASP!)

Say it aint so 😯

Maybe I should man up and take a stand too, but not over a petty issue like battle of the sexes.

It’s very tempting to join the right.

Next…!!!!

snacty?

Or maybe he’s just out jogging …. his memory 😆

If young Sancty walks I volunteer to be Trash’s right wing troll. I have previous experience, more recently at the Cafe where I got Mobius in knots.

Abbott on the carbon link to Europe.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/committee-backs-carbon-price-changes/story-fn3dxiwe-1226492712391

This is the monk trying getting back to policy and away from the gender debate.

PC gone mad in a Sydney restaurant?

‘The restaurant said the urinals were “a commonly used European design piece from female Dutch artist Meike van Schijnde” but would be removed.

“We sincerely apologise if they have caused offence. They are being removed today,” a spokeswoman said in a statement.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/restaurants-and-bars/restaurant-removes-misogynist-urinals-20121010-27cvx.html#ixzz28tIm6S9s

“But the idea you could re-install someone as Speaker who spends their days frenetically texting about the virtual “maidenhood” of Ashby’s homosexual lovers, or comparing female genitalia to jars of pickled mussels?”

http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/time-for-all-sides-to-restore-dignity-to-the-role-of-speaker-in-the-federal-parliament/story-e6freai3-1226489790613

Well you actually could I suppose. If you are this PM

“although your frequent sneering at my study is peculiar, as though i should die of shame for it.”

You need to do a degree at Duntroon.

And as we drift off to slumber, we ponder the big questions.

Will snacty recall those examples of abuse I mentioned, or will he deny them, lost now in the bowels of the wordpress databases?

Or will he just ignore it after calling me out for it?

snacty ❓

Here you go Mr Tom R I thought I should assist

You should be able to find all those old references to violence here by another by using this.
I’m sure you don’t like to keep anyone waiting. So get to it

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayback_machine

Here you go Mr Tom R I thought I should assist

Why don’t we wait until snactys memory gets joged a bit first 😉

Gotta admit, you are sounding more and more like paws every time you post?

of you accusing me of being some sort of pervert

For starters, I never accused you of anything, you simply didn’t understand English, and interpreted a harmless remark to mean something else. Secondly, no, the ‘prized dumb fuck’ abuse was just you losing the plot, and letting loose with the best argument you could handle.

But you do recall that you have in fact been abusive. Nice to hear.

they will realize the Parliament was made a joke of internationally.

It would have been more of a joke if labor and the independents had actually supported the motion, as tabot, in his eagerness to score, overplayed again.

Perhaps Abbott should have moved a vote of no confidence before trying to just sack Slipper, because the manner in which he did move his motion was actually an abuse of process, irrespective of any court case. The Parliament cannot just vote to sack someone, they need to go through a process first.

http://dragonistasblog.com/2012/10/10/this-time-the-msm-got-it-right/

She should have updated her post to read ‘the media fucked up again’ 😉

all the noise is just `gotcha` smart-arsery, not National Business.

I don’t disagree with that 730, but Labor didn’t pull the motion stunt, tabot did. From what the Paulat dragonistas says, the motion didn’t call for a vote of no-confidence, it called for a sacking. It was an abuse of procedure. They should have called for a vote of no confidence, which a lot of papers are claiming they did, but reading the linked motion there there is no mention of it, just a sacking. It was like a posse.

I suppose, every time the opposition brings the debate to the lowest levels, Labor should just roll over, like they have done so many times previously. That has proven to be a useless tactic, as the libs have shown that they will just sink lower. Gillard fired back with a speech lauded worldwide (Australia the exception), and all of a sudden they are just as bad to our local tabot cheer squad

Sorry, I just don’t agree with that.

read my above comment 730

I totally agree with this sentiment

https://twitter.com/mischa76/status/256141741416128512

Lot of `identical` views here

Perhaps I should disagree with reb (and the rest of the worlds media) in order to share your view

Oh…wait 😯

I don’t know whether Gillard “screeched”.

It was more of a rant, and one which again demonstrated her lack of comprehension of the language. Someone needs to buy her a dictionary, with pronunciation guide.

Remember her “hiperbowl” pronunciation of hyperbole. She uses hyperbole nonstop, she’s hooked on it, but she can’t even pronounce it.

We have a down market Prime Minister, and it doesn’t matter a scrap that she happens to be female.

‘…and it doesn’t matter a scrap that she happens to be female.’

Hear hear…

The PM is a bogan.

This takes it a little further. Note the word ‘forced’

Besides with her obsession with using sexism as a shield for all her shortcomings

You also haven’t seen the speech then have you, as she is not using tabots sexists comments as a shield, she is using tabots sexist comments as evidence of his sexism.

I mean, to claim that a PM who took on the mantle of a lie that wasn’t even a lie in order to try and progress debate as someone who uses a shield. Sorry, not buying that one.

The material I saw didn’t refer to ‘force”.

It does change the context a lot though, that little word, doesn’t it 😉

and the material I saw didn’t asy that

Let me guess, a quote from bolt or the like, cherry picking to the extreme as usual. Without seeing the actual document, I guess we just go on akermans claim 😆

The AUS declared 1983 to be the International Year of the Lesbian.

It also adopted a policy on prostitution which said, in part:

“Prostitution takes many forms and is not only the exchange of money for sex. … Prostitution in marriage is the transaction of sex in return for love, security and house-keeping.”

(Quoted by Helen Trinca, The Australian, April 6, 1984, p.7).

Kurt Tippett Vs AFC

As was “victim” Kittylitter for that matter.

get over yourself ‘bully’ james

Splatterbottom PERMALINK
October 11, 2012 8:58 am

I can only LOL at the pure bias in that comment and the way SB has managed to turn the aggressor into the victim, I almost cried for him myself!
Perhaps the subtle dog whistles became too overt, too impatient to land the knockout blow? Or just too confident that the election was in the bag and that he could do no wrong.

Probably not, but her subsequent actions indicate her continued support for this view, particularly the way she tried to liberate wife/prostitutes from their marital chains by sleeping with their husbands!

Nothing like the wowsers, moralisers and bedroom voyeurs to come to the fore. Usually reserved for the religious who expect everybody to obey their set rules, even those who don’t adhere to their fairy stories. Of course in the land of male make believe, everything is the fault of women, isn’t that why they wrote the tales and declared themselves the boss?

Do the straying men, the ones who have actually taken a [supposedly sacred] marriage vow with their long suffering wives have any blame apportioned to them for their adultery and betrayal of their wives? Or does that not suit your purpose of slut shaming/blaming? Double standards don’t wash anymore either. Is julia such a femme fatale that no man is safe from her womanly wiles? 🙂

and Abbotts inability to even get a power bill right

Abbott’s outright lying in parliament. Not that anyone would want to make it an issue by calling him the liar that he is or anything.

‘Not that anyone would want to make it an issue by calling him the liar that he is or anything.’

He’s not going out of his way to lie, its his incompetent staff. I’m informed by Nooze they are mostly women.

He’s not going out of his way to lie, its his incompetent staff. I’m informed by Nooze they are mostly women.

But he’s their boss and he’s the one presenting the evidence, most people do a basic check before they allow themselves to look like an idiot in the public arena. Lazy work from abbott, less camera and fluoro vest, less sports training, less devious plotting and more applying of self to job!

The bottom line is this: we no longer trust the media to tell us the story of our lives. We no longer have to settle for the narrative they impose on events.

Tim gets it AO, and also is able to convey it nicely.

Is it OK for me to say ‘I told ya so’ 🙂

‘This reinvention of the audience as media critic and content shaper causes angst in the journosphere, and much of their reaction to this new dispensation is the reaction of an industry who have not only had their authority and prestige stripped from them, but of one that is struggling to find relevance in a scary new environment that threatens their very livelihood.’

Tim Dunlop

Noice and accurate.

A non violent revolution in western industrialised countries might be expected, if the disparities in wealth become obscene.

The Arab Spring was a clear indication of what is possible through social media, but there is still the need for charismatic leaders to guide the revolution.

but there is still the need for charismatic leaders to guide the revolution.

I wonder where we could find such a leader? A leader who, in 15 short minutes, ignites an impassioned speech the rest of the world look to and wish their leaders could replicate.

Where oh where to find such a one?

😯

😆

A non violent revolution in western industrialised countries might be expected, if the disparities in wealth become obscene.

Yes, expect it if the conservative approach to economics ‘taxcuts for the wealthy but austerity for everyone else’ and it’s corresponding rise in unemployment becomes too much for families to bear.

That’s funny ToM…oddly enough it might just be what the world’s poor and downtrodden need in a leader…a working class slang.

So Swan stayed at the CFMEU dinner following some, deliberately offensive, hurtful and distasteful jokes.

But ALP barrackers condemned the Liberals for staying at a function following Jones’ remarks.

Political standards are funny, so are the weasel words of Swan etc.

‘a new era of political correctness….?’

No thanks.

‘Wot’s happened ‘ere?’

I miss Wally’s wit and ToSY’s quiet intellect…this is for them in absentia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/11/business/global/chinese-company-sets-new-rhythm-in-port-of-piraeus.html?_r=1&hp

most being the embedded media

lol

BTW, its difficult for a guest of honour to walk out …

yes it is, perhaps he should’ve thought quicker and said he didn’t hear it 😉

He remained as a guest of honour, he made a speech afterwards!! Did he condemn the joke in his speech? Did he clearly disassociate himself from it?

I think swan should have condemned it right at the start of his speech and given a warning that unions should expect to be under the opposition microscope for a gotcha moment [as if they aren’t already]. I know labor wasn’t behind the jones insult becoming public but labor made the most of it which was a mistake IMO, they should have left it to the media to make a sideshow of it. Of course the libs would be desperate to grab a gotcha.

Gillard did the right thing and condemned it immediately by phone to the CFMEU, pretty sure it wouldn’t have been polite, would guess it went much like her speech to abbott the other day, only more sweary!

I’d like to know what the abbott/credlin joke was, anyone know?

So what possessed Craig (I didnt do it) Thomson to stick his ugly head up over the parapet yesterday just because he received a letter by mistake.

I bet his Labor mates groaned when they were reminded of his continued presence amongst them.

A timely reminder to the electorate of more exciting days ahead in the Thomson saga.

Craig Thomson

Australia’s horizontal and nocturnal version of Lance Armstrong (I didnt do it)

Splatter is correct about Talcum Lite, but after the gretch affair and his hopeless position on CC…he’s not in the running unless he recants.

Final post by Tim Dunlop on Friday, September 26, 2008

and really should have worded that better.

Nah, don’t give in to the pedants 😉

AO, after the Jones poor taste remark, there was a real or threatened boycott of his sponsors.

In the interests of fairness, there should be a boycott of the sponsors of the comedian. I think his sponsors include the CFMEU, and the CFMEU forms part of the ALP.
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All this is just further proof that political hypocrites can’t afford to try to take the moral high ground.

It’s also further proof that Swan lacks the intelligence and judgement to occupy a senior position in government.

AO, after the Jones poor taste remark, there was a real or threatened boycott of his sponsors.

yes, as is people’s right to do so, it is the public who chose to do so, as reb said, you are free to start your own petition.

In the interests of fairness, there should be a boycott of the sponsors of the comedian. I think his sponsors include the CFMEU, and the CFMEU forms part of the ALP.

shit, that’s the longest direct route to the ALP ever seen, logic clearly isn’t your strength.

Logically following your reasoning though, where was any boycott called of the young libs and the liberal party?

Feel free to boycott the comedians actual sponsors though, I assume he is quite popular and famous for his talent and has numerous wealthy sponsors – who is he again?