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November 9, 2012

Hello!

And good afternoon.

Happy Friday to youse all.

Sorry I haven’t been around much lately.  I flew out of Melbourne on Wednesday and am now here in Penang for an extended holiday.  I will endeavour to be your efficient international (or at least SE) correspondent.

The best news for me this week was the re-election of Barack Obama as President of the US.   It has restored some sense of credibility to the intellect of the American voting public, although the huge support for Mitt Romney, who’s just a one man freak show when you think about it, illustrates how dangerously easy it would be for the US to revert back to the bad old days of the Bush era.

In other news Kevin  Rudd has confirmed the rumour that Wayne Swan “betrayed” him.  Who knew?

Also in a surprise development, the Catholic Church is embroiled in another sex abuse scandal.

Have a top weekend…!

 

reb

 

 

 

 

 

 

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158 Comments leave one →
  1. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 9, 2012 12:16 pm

    An extended holiday! That’s nice.

    I think I deserve an extended holiday here.

    Have fun & send a postcard.

  2. November 9, 2012 1:24 pm

    Enjoy your holiday, reb!

    Beware of tworgs.

    Whodathunk that the church was capable of such ungodly acts & coverups?! 😯

  3. November 9, 2012 1:27 pm

    Have you read about The Red Wedding yet, TB?

    If not, don’t search it until you’ve read it.

    Just curious.

  4. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 1:55 pm

    Ser Tee,

    The Imp & Sansa have just been “joined but not yet consummated” and the Kingslayer is at Harrenhal (minus a hand) with Brienne … (book 3 methimks – difficult to keep track I “downloaded” a first four book set) …

  5. November 9, 2012 1:59 pm

    Aha.

    You’re getting very close to The Red Wedding then. Yes, book 3, A Storm Of Swords.

    Prepare to go FMD!!! 😯

  6. el gordo permalink
    November 9, 2012 4:35 pm

    Hmmm….

  7. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 9, 2012 5:50 pm

    I’ve no idea what all that’s about. It sounds odd.

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 6:13 pm

    Statistically, 6 out of 7 dwarves are not happy!

    Winter is coming!

  9. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 6:15 pm

    My daughter asked me for a pet spider for her birthday, so I went to our local pet shop and they were $70!!! Blow this, I thought, I can get one cheaper off the web.

    Lannisters always pay their debt

  10. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 6:17 pm

    I went to the cemetery yesterday to lay some flowers on a grave. As I was standing there I noticed 4 grave diggers walking about with a coffin, 3 hours later and they’re still walking about with it. I thought to myself, they’ve lost the plot!!

    Enjoy the day … you only get one crack at it!

    I see cricket season has come around again 🙄

  11. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 9, 2012 6:39 pm

    Very entertaining TB.

    I’m about to open a good red, and while I’m still lucid I’ll share a story I had with a teenage girl (14) recently.

    In summary –

    We were out shopping, a woman in a burka went past. The teenage girl said – “ I don’t think they should dress like that, it’s not fair”

    Being the broadminded diplomatic type, I said – “It’s part of their culture, it’s a tradition, and many people like to observe their traditions”

    She said – “It’s the men. They make them dress like that, she wouldn’t dress in that unless the men made her”

    Interesting perspective from a strongly opinionated teenage girl.

  12. public toilet permalink
    November 9, 2012 6:51 pm

    I’d say that both of you were correct in different ways, YomM.

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 7:44 pm

    Palmer and Newman squabble

    Clivey’s turning out to be more of a mole than the elephant in the room … pity JBP didn’t have a National Party Life Member in his face every day … like Noddy has … I reckon Clivey has become the spokesperson for all the folk who thought things were going to get better in Queensland … and didn’t

    BTW, taking a Life Membership away is a bit difficult, isn’t ist? I always thought they were for “life” … not … “if you don’t argue with us” awards …

    … I understand Noddy’s Propaganda Minister is planning a gang of Maroon Shirts to raid the university libraries next week … I’ll watch the bonfires from our deck and report how many*

    * sarc alert for Dickwits™

  14. el gordo permalink
    November 9, 2012 7:44 pm

    ToM from my discussions with women on the subject of the burka, they blame the men.

    In fact religious nonsense is the root cause. During my formative years at catholic schools in Lakemba I have vivid memories of nuns in similar drab, except we saw their faces.

  15. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 9, 2012 7:48 pm

    It’s a different perspective PT, just girl starting to form her own opinions, unaffected by political correctness.

    I think she’s probably right, and suspect few women would bother unless they were under pressure from men.

    I’ve heard the nun argument eg, and I think it’s entirely different being a member of a religious order, to simply being born into a particular religion.

  16. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 7:51 pm

    The Robber Barons at work …

    … never fear Newman’s here …

    More and more JBP … the LNP is not about state governance its about playing land developers … I can just see those brown paper bags again! Only this time they will be “hidden” digital transfers … nothing is new … (and NOTHING can be hidden … Noddy!)

    History constantly repeats itself … I never thought I’d live to see so much of the $#!t keep coming to the surface though …

  17. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 7:52 pm

    Palmer deluded himself, like most Queenslanders did, believing that Newman would improve things. The main problem is, this is just the beginning.

  18. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 7:55 pm

    I’ve heard the nun argument eg, and I think it’s entirely different being a member of a religious order, to simply being born into a particular religion.

    The concept is the same … power and control …

  19. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 7:58 pm

    Newman likes Packers very very big brown paper bag.

  20. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 8:02 pm

    … believing that Newman would improve things.

    Noddy was never the answer … he has no “depth” …he’s an amateur – manipulated by Robber Barons … (and his “family” is not as innocent as made out) … concrete and bitumen are Noddy’s staple diet … all the rest is just fkn hard yakka … and cold hearted thuggery …

    Having said that, the government that Noddy replaced were a bunch of incompetent fools … what we have now is a heartless bunch of wannabe business – persons … who would do better to employ qualified people instead of their kids, husbands, brothers, sisters, cousins etc. etc …

  21. el gordo permalink
    November 9, 2012 8:06 pm

    ‘…it’s entirely different being a member of a religious order, to simply being born into a particular religion.’

    Point taken.

    We can be confident that their daughters will adopt a more realistic attitude to clothing… vitamin D deficiency is a scourge and religion a curse.

  22. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 8:08 pm

    the government that Noddy replaced were a bunch of incompetent fools

    Government seems to attract incompetent fools or, drive off the smarter people, this seems to be world-wide, there is the occasional exception, Newman is not one of them.

  23. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 8:14 pm

    Sorry, missed the quotes above.

    “the government that Noddy replaced were a bunch of incompetent fools”

  24. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 8:20 pm

    ‘…it’s entirely different being a member of a religious order, to simply being born into a particular religion.’

    Expanding on that ….

    The religious orders “volunteer” these days (in Medieval times they were often the third daughter or the “ugly” – offered to a christian church by the father) …

    However, there are many who wear the full burkha who defend the practice … but I might remind you that girls in “extreme” Islamic societies don’t allow girls education … and they remain in the Dark Ages …

    Read about the Christian Crusades and the cruelty by “knights” who upheld honour and succour to women and children and recognise why hardline Islamists, (who live in the past), hate Caucasion societies … and why Saladin, leader of the Moslems was declared as the “compassionate” leader … compared to EVERY European king of the day …

    In my defence as a white, male … I wasn’t there in 1560 et al … and I despise ALL religions for their humanitarian hypocrisy! Just don’t involve me or my family in your hatred … we don’t hold any …

  25. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 8:24 pm

    despise ALL religions for their humanitarian hypocrisy
    well said

  26. Mohammad permalink
    November 9, 2012 8:40 pm

    Hullo friends. Interestin discussion I hear about on twitter. This from my Facebook page.

    “The Afghanistan that my parents lived in, were Kabul was once called the Paris of central Asia. Once the jewel of Asia, a very progressive and moderately modern country. Kabul once had, cinemas, cafes, formal French gardens, schools, libraries, universities, fine boutiques. Where both women and men had access to education and a better future. A country were women were granted the right to vote in 1963! In many of these pictures is not the clothing nor the style of their clothing that make the women then “liberated” but the fact that those women were able to choose and decipher for themselves what they thought was appropriate to wear.”

    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.416627078391.191527.620483391#!/media/set/?set=a.416627078391.191527.620483391&type=1

  27. November 9, 2012 8:51 pm

    Fuck me it’s another Mohammad…

    As if I wasn’t surrounded by enough fkn Mohammeds already..

    (No offence intended)

  28. el gordo permalink
    November 9, 2012 8:51 pm

    Thanks for that insight Mohammad.

  29. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2012 8:55 pm

    Hullo friends. Interestin discussion I hear about on twitter.

    Hello Mohammed … if Afghanistan is/was so good why are my friends being killed there?

    And I suspect you are living now in my country, Australia …

    I also suspect that the real problem is Pakistan ..

  30. Toot Toot Mohammad permalink
    November 9, 2012 8:59 pm

    Your stupid Facebook LINK is not public or dead

  31. Mohammad permalink
    November 9, 2012 9:06 pm

    I thought you were Americans. I’m from Kabul.

    “Religion does not require women to veil their hands, feet and faces or enjoin any special type of veil. Tribal custom must not impose itself on the free will of the individual” King Amanullah Khan, King of Afghanistan from 1919-1929

  32. el gordo permalink
    November 9, 2012 9:09 pm

    Did a bit of googling and found Mohammad was right, by the 1980s half the women in the big cities had given up the burka and were fairly westernised.

    When the Talban took over they told them to give up working and wear the burka at all times when in public. Women resented being told they had to wear it.

  33. Toot Toot Mohammad permalink
    November 9, 2012 9:13 pm

    Facebook is for kids Mohammad, get some quality webspace.
    I suggest one of the fine blogging establishments.

  34. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 9, 2012 10:34 pm

    Mohammad, there’s nothing on that facebook link, but it seems that Kabul in the 70s may have been more tolerant.

  35. el gordo permalink
    November 9, 2012 10:58 pm

    If it wasn’t for those religious fanatics, the Taliban, it would be a different world today.

  36. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2012 10:39 am

    I thought you were Americans. I’m from Kabul.

    So, do you live in Kabul now, Mohammad?

  37. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2012 10:41 am

    If it wasn’t for those religious fanatics, the Taliban, religion it would be a different world today.

  38. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 10, 2012 1:17 pm

    http://www.afr.com/p/national/what_gillard_knew_about_the_slush_JbGcILLo9O59yt3QGFT68H

    There is no doubt that Gillard has concealed her involvement. She hasn’t come clean and that’s why this story will dog her.

    She deserves it too, until she retracts sexist the “young & naïve” excuse – which is only available to a mid 30s woman.

    Imagine if Howard or Keating had used this as an excuse for any errors they made when they first became ministers.

  39. el gordo permalink
    November 10, 2012 2:04 pm

    Talking of joolya…

    “On one side, the non-combative Abbott. He stands accused of hating women and having punched a wall 35 years ago.

    “On the other side, the pugnacious Gillard: She is accused of calling all married women prostitutes, promoting lesbianism and late-term abortions. Declaring heterosexual relationships an “anomaly”. Convincing her parents to join the Communist Party. Defrauding millions from union members. Inventing false polls to convince Caucus to support the knifing of a sitting Prime Minister. Spending billions we don’t have gaining international and domestic favours. Intimidating media companies. Insisting journalists be sacked. Constantly lying to the Australian people. Demeaning Abbott’s family. Cooking Budget books. Supporting corrupt union bosses. Inflaming a gender war that formerly didn’t exist. Promoting incompetent unionists to Cabinet. Promoting a partner in crime to a Federal Court judge. Signing deals with the unrepresentative, communist Greens so she could attain government. Having an open sexual preference for married men. Having been sacked from a corrupt law firm, no longer being able to practise as a solicitor and doggedly refusing to answer questions in Parliament about her documented, corrupt past… and in the short time she has been Prime Minister, responsible for policy disasters the like of which we have never seen”

    Pickering

  40. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2012 3:58 pm

    Pickering

    FMD! 🙄

  41. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2012 4:07 pm

    Have to agree with TB, anything from Pickering won’t be for mental giants.

  42. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 10, 2012 5:17 pm

    Is it only ALP barrackers who shun diversity of opinion and debate?

    Obviously this site isn’t for everyone, plenty self select out, but I’ve not noticed a particular political orientation being pushed out of the place. I think political blogs should provide open political debate, and the inarticulate or confused fall by the wayside.

    Places that want closed discourse should form a Facebook club, and just invite their likeminded friends.

  43. el gordo permalink
    November 10, 2012 5:32 pm

    I agree with ToM.

    The kaf mob have had enough of robust debate and said they would prefer being just a chat room where everyone agrees….a Facebook club.

  44. scrambled egg permalink
    November 10, 2012 6:13 pm

    enough of robust debate, Facebook club

  45. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 10, 2012 7:10 pm

    In 2007 many of those who remain here, and most of those who have self selected out, started exchanging views at Tim Dunlop’s Blogocracy.

    At the time the ALP supporters were only too eager to point to the mendacity of Howard and his government. They valued diversity because it provided an opportunity to debate Howard and his lied, they could call him a rodent, behave provocatively to opponents, they could even insult Howard’s wife.

    All that was fair enough, except for insulting the wife.

    Now ALP barrackers hate diversity on blogs because the practicality of government has proven to be quite difficult, and their heroes aren’t as pure as the driven snow.

    In fact Gillard and Co are proven liars.

    All this means that ALP barrackers no longer want to debate politics. They prefer to hang around together lamenting how unfair the world is, and how the media should avoid scrutiny of their Prime Minister.

  46. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2012 7:31 pm

    >>> but I’ve not noticed a particular political orientation being pushed out of the place <<<

    By that I suppose you mean the right wing wolf pack that attempted to chew up everything opposed to its vision of the right wing world, on a left leaning blog … y'know, those people who, when challenged resorted to attacking the character of the poster rather than the content post …

    And yes, I have been guilty of sarcasm and making fun of folk … but some people don't get the difference between funny jokes and nastiness … truth and fiction … belief and reality …

    And I agree, ToM, the kitchen can get hot … obviously you're referring to the Farham solution that some (who say, " I'll never…" ) … actually take … (turnpike with a dozen twists! Score … -10)

    I have been known to apologise for mistakes … as have other regular "lefties", on TDT (and other shared blogs) … I stand/sit to be corrected … but I have NEVER seen a right whinger apologise for a personally offensive remark, or being incorrect, on any blog I've posted on … they just fk off …

    … in reality (as opposed to virtual) I have a number of long term, "once were, friends" and my sister … not one of them have EVER apologised for being wrong (funny how politics follows nature) … in their case I did the Farnham – after all it is the real world …

    … get rid of the Fuckwits™, I say …

    Here at TDT, the fighters remain … but are you really "complaining" because you may not have the "support" you had, trying to paint the PM as a "liar"?

    I might remind you that in three years, sreb, has put only three posters to the sword – scaper (on my behalf and Toillette's) … The Bear for outrageous lies … and finally, I Am The Walrus et al … the others have fallen on their own swords (unfortunately for us) … and, I might add, most left oriented (because of the "wolf pack") – (and before you engage in nonsense, egg – long before you were hatched) … and because of the "wolf pack" … so rightwhinge if you must but you are now feeling how I did when we lost the likes of N5 … who could actually provide a reasoned argument … as could ToSY given the "latitude" and the ability to say .. "yes, I could be wrong on that" …

    Debate is about listening to the "other" side not pushing your point, over and over to "make it right" … that's not debate … that's propaganda … and defeats the purpose of blogs like, sreb's, Daily Trash …

    Toleration works in many ways … and there have been many posting here who have pushed it (sreb) to the limit … (and I'm still waiting for my reinmbursement for sixteen fkn stories!)

    If it makes you feel any better, you know that, sreb, KL and myself will give the ALP government a hard time if they stray from left wing ideals (apologies, sreb) … right whingers don't EVER see the OPPOSITION straying AT ALL … in a few words …

    Is it only ALP barrackers who shun diversity of opinion and debate?

    What BS … it’s the right that attempts to stifle debate …

    Suck it up Princess … (yeah I know that’s personal but you’re like me – a thick skinned Trasher …)

    Speaking of whom … is all OK, KL?

  47. el gordo permalink
    November 10, 2012 7:47 pm

    ‘Debate is about listening to the “other” side not pushing your point, over and over to “make it right” … that’s not debate … that’s propaganda … and defeats the purpose of blogs like, sreb’s, Daily Trash …’

    Hmmm….

  48. Teapot of Boltsville permalink
    November 10, 2012 8:08 pm

    Gillard and Co are proven liars

  49. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 10, 2012 8:09 pm

    Much of that is true TB, though I don’t recall anyone other than the self proclaimed “left leaning” who have ever joined a chorus of ”ban him, ban him, ban him”. That’s a characteristic only the “left leaning” seem to observe.

  50. Teapot of Boltsville permalink
    November 10, 2012 8:11 pm

    ALP barrackers no longer want to debate politics

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2012 8:14 pm

    Gillard and Co are proven liars

    Abbott & Co are proven liars …

    On and fkn on …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hmmm….

    I take it you are “thinking” about, ToM’s, repitition technique, or James’, beliefs’, approach, or, ToSY’s …greater than though technique via “links” … ie no original thinking …. oops .. is that egg technique?

  52. Teapot of Boltsville permalink
    November 10, 2012 8:16 pm

    only ALP barrackers who shun diversity of opinion

  53. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 10, 2012 8:25 pm

    Teapot makes a lot of sense.

  54. Teapot of Boltsville permalink
    November 10, 2012 9:21 pm

    Tom makes a lot of Tea

  55. el gordo permalink
    November 10, 2012 9:31 pm

    Did I mention that 97% of scientists believe CO2 causes global warming?

  56. scrambled egg permalink
    November 10, 2012 10:15 pm

    Did I mention, 100% of eggs don’t believe in global warming?

  57. LOVO permalink
    November 10, 2012 10:18 pm

    NO, El ‘Marcus Junius Brutus Caepio’ Gordo, I cannee quite remember if’n you have EVA mentioned that afore, ay…… 😀
    G’day all here…. heard the kerfuffle over the back fence and thought I’d pop in and check out a certain galahs comments.. 😉 but by the comments here Im guessing shim is more like a chook with its head cut off.. buk buk bargurk….. 😆

  58. el gordo permalink
    November 10, 2012 10:45 pm

    Noice to see you over ‘ere lovo. While the editor is hanging out in Penang this place is going to rack and ruin. TB wants to turn Trash into a debating club where we never mention the weather because its only right wing propaganda.

    Did you know that life on earth is going to become a living hell because of your opulent lifestyle at the Hill?

  59. LOVO permalink
    November 10, 2012 10:59 pm

    Mine saying that again, not really up with that pithy underground humour your trying to espouse… dig, man…..( opulent lifestyle bwwahhaa)

  60. el gordo permalink
    November 11, 2012 9:58 am

    ‘pithy underground humour’

    That’s very kind of you, thanks.

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    November 11, 2012 11:09 am

    What really is a Life Membership of the LNP?

    Obviously a non-core promise … go Clivey …

    What did he bloody expect from Noddy Newman … his hero is/was Joh Bjelke “Brown Bag” Peterson …

    History repeats … hiccup, hiccup, hiccup …

    OUTSPOKEN billionaire and LNP donor Clive Palmer has compared members of the party’s hierarchy to Nazis in an insult likely to inflame an already tense situation.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/billionaire-clive-palmer-lashes-out-over-mining-audit-order-comparing-liberal-national-party-lnp-to-nazis/story-fndo4ckr-1226514345865

    LOL! 😆

  62. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 11, 2012 11:54 am

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/mere-months-after-being-publicised-with-his-loving-family-paul-howes-has-a-new-partner/story-e6frfhqf-1226514287566

    How entertaining!

    Only a few months ago Paul Howes did the political aspirant photo shot and story with his wife and family in the Women’s Weekly.

    A couple of months later he’s at Derby Day with this new love, Olivia Wirth, a Qantas executive (who the mindless ALAEA want shoved out of her job over the relationship).

    What a tool Howes is.

  63. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 11, 2012 11:54 am

    Does anyone still say that Clive Palmer runs the Queensland Liberals?

  64. TB Queensland permalink
    November 11, 2012 12:23 pm

    Does anyone still say that Clive Palmer runs the Queensland Liberals?

    Well I thought he did (and stand corrected) … I guess, Noddy Newman, simply carried out a “military coup” … and we know what eventually happens to dictatorships …

    Maybe, Clivey, should have “owned” the LNP?

  65. TB Queensland permalink
    November 11, 2012 12:25 pm

    Does anyone still say that Clive Palmer runs the Queensland Liberals?

    … and I must add that this stoush is far from over …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    … who the mindless ALAEA want shoved out of her job over the relationship …

    And that is certainly unfair … they should both go … they have both shown poor judgement and there is an obvious conflict of interest …

  66. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 11, 2012 4:42 pm

    A conflict of interest?

    She’s a public relations spokesperson and he’s a union hack. It’s a conflict of taste rather than one of interest.

    Two of the previous IR heads of Qantas were in relationships with IRC commissioners, as are a large number of union hacks. Golly TB, the pool of potential partners for union hacks is understandably very small (they’re not attractive, and have bad manners), and you’re trying to limit it even further.

  67. November 11, 2012 4:51 pm

    GO TOOT TOOT QUEENSLANDER!!!

  68. November 11, 2012 4:52 pm

    Noddy is no Oathkeeper!

    anyone wondering what snacty has been thinking in his absence need only cast a nostalgic glance in this direction…http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/

  69. November 11, 2012 4:57 pm

    The immediate rearguard defence of an Obama victory by the rightard blogosphere this week has been Limbaughesque & hilarious in its contortions.

    * nb. Obama is just a bluntened rhetorical tool of the same old UScentric, insular, hegemoniacal apparatus. Still, nice to see the anti-abortion, anti-gay, pro-liquidate-Iran, overtly selfish conservative hood ornament (even a soft, wet one) flounder & fail. Some solace in the rejection of fundie religious ratbaggery & overly paranoid conspiracists.
    Having Trump on board= autoFAIL… 😆

  70. el gordo permalink
    November 11, 2012 6:45 pm

    Obama’s victory gives renewed faith in American democracy.

  71. scrambled egg permalink
    November 11, 2012 7:16 pm

    Obama’s victory is renewed faith in American propaganda

  72. November 11, 2012 7:34 pm

    Amen, scrambler… true dat

  73. el gordo permalink
    November 11, 2012 8:29 pm

    Would you prefer the Russian system under Putin? Or perhaps the political dictatorship of China?

    Obama got a mandate to rule.

  74. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 11, 2012 9:25 pm

    I don’t mind Obama, but the debt needs to be addressed. He’ll have to figure out a clear path to reduction or he’ll be blamed, and that will be his legacy.

  75. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    November 12, 2012 9:16 am

    Obama’s return to office was also marked by an unprecedented online groundswell of support. He has 31 million Facebook fans and 22 million Twitter followers. By comparison, his Republican counterpart Mitt Romney had only 11 million Facebook fans and 1.75 million Twitter followers.

    facebook, romney 11 v obama 31
    twitter, romney 1.75 v obama 22
    kinda says it all, huh!

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/all-a-twitter-as-politics-goes-gangnam/story-e6frea6u-1226514684985

  76. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    November 12, 2012 9:46 am

    A key reason Obama retained the presidency was simply that he was not Mitt Romney. Australian voters may not be falling back in love with Labor so much as rejecting Tony Abbott’s world view.

    this seems to make a good point
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/globe-shifts-back-to-the-left-a-little-as-barack-obama-wins-us-presidency/story-e6frerc6-1226514639136

  77. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    November 12, 2012 10:10 am

    Clearly disappointed with the election result, 18-year-old Georgia republican Kristen Neel joined the throngs of American Twitter users claiming they were moving to Australia to escape Obama’s presidency.

    Unfortunately, she got a few facts wrong.

    “I’m moving to Australia, because their president is a Christian and actually supports what he says,” she tweeted.

    fckn republican idiots, fckn yank idiots
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/technology/fail-anti-obama-teen-wants-to-move-to-australia-because-we-have-christian-male-president/story-fn5kfsdd-1226512853271

  78. November 12, 2012 10:56 am

    Romney’s defeat is bad news for Tabbott.

  79. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    November 12, 2012 11:41 am

    “I might remind you that in three years, sreb, has put only three posters to the sword – scaper (on my behalf and Toillette’s) … The Bear for outrageous lies … and finally, I Am The Walrus et al … ”

    I thought the longstanding policy here had been that only those lovelies over at the Whispers place banned people and the good folk here welcomed dissent.

    Was that not always the claim?

  80. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 12, 2012 11:44 am

    Gillard is certainly no Obama.

    With his background, he wouldn’t get near ALP preselection in the first place.

  81. el gordo permalink
    November 12, 2012 12:23 pm

    The cafe has given up banning as a remedy, allowing scaper to stay and even outstanding newcomers like Treeman.

  82. November 12, 2012 12:36 pm

    “Was that not always the claim?”

    It was.

    And then I changed my mind.

  83. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 12, 2012 12:36 pm

    I think it may be the difference between banning for being defamatory/offensive… or being banned for-
    *making legitimate points others find it difficult to argue, and
    *reminding long term contributors of the standards they’d set for themselves and government.

    Mind you, IATW was always entertaining. Nasking was fine with me, but tended to overdo the hyperbole (‘hoi-par-bowl’ – JG)

  84. November 12, 2012 12:37 pm

    Although I might add that no one is currently in the “sin bin”…

    So anyone can comment.

  85. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    November 12, 2012 12:38 pm

    “… The Bear for outrageous lies …”

    What was it he said ?

  86. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 12, 2012 12:39 pm

    Are you sure that’s the case el gordo? Have they removed or edited their disclaimer?

  87. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    November 12, 2012 12:40 pm

    Although I might add that no one is currently in the “sin bin”…

    Oh that’s interesting

    We might have to “ramp” up the conversation

  88. el gordo permalink
    November 12, 2012 12:48 pm

    ‘Have they removed or edited their disclaimer?’

    Probably not, ToM, but these are early days.

    —————–

    If Pell doesn’t act to close down St John of God…. he deserves hell on earth.

  89. el gordo permalink
    November 12, 2012 1:09 pm

    http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/icac-told-obeids-made-100m-from-mining/story-e6frfku9-1226515007126

    In China they reserve the death penalty for such behaviour.

  90. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    November 12, 2012 1:13 pm

    “In China they reserve the death penalty for such behaviour.”

    In the ALP they reserve a place in the Upper House for such behaviour

  91. el gordo permalink
    November 12, 2012 1:15 pm

    🙂 SJ

  92. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 12, 2012 1:28 pm

    Then eg, it’s best you spare us stuff like ‘they’ve given up banning as a remedy’

  93. November 12, 2012 1:33 pm

    Well I’m still banned there, despite attempting to post a conciliatory message a while back.

    Not that I’m phased by it or anything.

  94. el gordo permalink
    November 12, 2012 2:03 pm

    What about returning under a pseudo name…they could do with some humour.

  95. el gordo permalink
    November 12, 2012 3:01 pm

    If you prefer not to go to the party as sock puppets….I’ll put a good word in fer ya.

  96. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 12, 2012 4:03 pm

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/more-to-work-online-says-pm-20121111-296hv.html

    Fascinating – “Public Servants to work from home”

    …therefore – Sell Arnott’s and Lipton shares!!

    Without the army of public servants turning up to work and consuming publically funded biscuits and tea, those companies would head into a nose dive.

    Buy Hush Puppies shares – because they make slippers, and the public servants are unlikely to wear any other footwear in the future – a huge consumption increase coming!

  97. el gordo permalink
    November 12, 2012 4:15 pm

    Looking forward to the Royal Commission into the Church, long overdue.

    Barry O says his Commission is good enough and will get the truth, we shall see, either way its a death blow to the Catlicks.

  98. Teapot of Boltsville permalink
    November 12, 2012 4:49 pm

    public servants regularly ”teleworking” from home by 2020
    equivalent of an extra 25,000 full-time jobs

    ”teleworking”, code for more junk jobs.
    Ditch your coles and woolies stock too,
    Aldi will be the growth in the retail sector,
    more price sensitive consumers coming, confirmed.

  99. TB Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 5:01 pm

    Some interesting third degreeing going on here while I’ve been away I see … 😆

  100. TB Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 5:09 pm

    Looking forward to the Royal Commission into the Church, long overdue.

    So is Abbott – apparently – but as usual has a proviso to fog and remove focus from the real problem …

    Mr Abbott today backed a Royal Commission into child sexual abuse as long as it was not limited to a single institution.

    However, Mr Abbott made clear that support for an inquiry would only be given if it did not focus on just one organisation. He effectively said he would not back a royal commission which looked only at the Catholic Church.

    He said in a statement that “if the government were to propose a royal commission to investigate the sexual abuse of children, it is something the Coalition would be prepared to support”.

    “Any investigation must be wide-ranging, must consider any evidence of the abuse of children in Australia, and should not be limited to the examination of any one institution,” he said.

    “It must include all organisations, government and non-government, where there is evidence of sexual abuse.”

    Investigate the Catlicks FIRST and then go down the list one by one!

    I’m sure I and a few others could help with suggestions …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Watched Devil’s Dust last night … Part Two tonight … on ABC 1 (Part One is available on iView if you want to watch it now)

  101. TB Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 5:15 pm

    Aldi will be the growth in the retail sector, more price sensitive consumers coming, confirmed.

    … and Costco … one coming to a town near you …

  102. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    November 12, 2012 5:19 pm

    Romney’s defeat is bad good news for Tabbott the rest of us

  103. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 5:29 pm

    Any investigation must be wide-ranging, must consider any evidence

    and should not be limited to the examination

    It must include all organisations, government and non-government, where there is evidence

    l guess he means exactly like the way the AWB was not investigated

  104. TB Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 6:04 pm

    WELL DONE! Detective Chief Inspector Peter Fox!

    PRIME Minister Julia Gillard has announced a royal commission into the child sex abuse in institutional bodies, such as religious organisations.
    The inquiry will include children who were in the care of religious organisations, state care and not for profit bodies.

    But Ms Gillard said she wanted to take her time to form the terms of reference for the royal commission.

    “I want to take the time to get this right,” she said.

    Ms Gillard said too many children had suffered abuse and too many adults had let them down.

    “Any instance of child abuse is an evil and vile thing,” she said.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/prime-minister-julia-gillard-to-decide-on-a-royal-commission-into-the-catholic-church-today/story-fndo4bst-1226515291821

    WELL DONE! PM Gillard!

  105. el gordo permalink
    November 12, 2012 6:17 pm

    Yeah.

  106. TB Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 6:40 pm

    Brisbane’s Airport Tunnel Company is on the brink of collapse amid trading halt … now why did Noddy Newman resign as Lord Mayor so early? Public Money Manager my arse … Developer’s Darling, more like …

    And just who did fund him almost a year while he “planned” his Premier assault on Queensland?

  107. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 12, 2012 7:29 pm

    A Royal Commission seems like a good idea.

  108. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 7:36 pm

    Aldi has rolled out dozens of supermarkets,
    Costco only seems to have three TB,
    http://www.costco.com.au/Common/ContactUs.shtml
    l hope they roll-out a lot more than this.
    l would like to see a costco, but none are near me

  109. TB Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 7:37 pm

    A Royal Commission seems like a good idea.

    But, but … you said that a Royal Commission into union activity WAS a good idea, ToM … FMD another Mick?

  110. TB Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 7:42 pm

    Costco only seems to have three TB,

    Costco is a Yank company, TT … and they know how to roll out a business … Westfield are extremely worried about the one being set up near us … legalalese at work and being stumped …

    And, yeah, Aldi, is developing like service stations – soon one on every corner around here! (at least you have choices to check for the limited weekly specials!) but a great team-mate to Costco who deal in bulk buying.

    Woolies and Coles – and Westfield need to be afaid – very afraid … good for consumers!

    We live in exciting times!

  111. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 8:27 pm

    Anyone who can give woolies and coles get a good kicking, is just fine by me. l want to see more costcos and aldis come to australia. I dont care where from. l did hear on TV not so long ago the yanks have over 3000 mega-mart/supermarket chains. No wonder they are shop-aholics.

  112. November 12, 2012 8:32 pm

    And when all of the profits from all of the businesses that sell goods go overseas to other countries revenue bases rather than to our ATO where on earth do you think the money for pensions, roads, our defence forces and to pay our politicians etc etc will come from ?.

  113. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 12, 2012 8:47 pm

    TB, I think a Royal Commission into union is inevitable if there is a change of government.

    Former ALP President Williamson and ALP Member for Dobell have provided some reasonable excuses for one.
    ——————–
    The main problem with Australian retail is that it is the most concentrated in the world, any new entrants that provide competition is better for consumers.

  114. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 8:49 pm

    With more and more jobs turned to junk, part-time, casual and other, 40% of the workforce is now under-employed, also consumers, that MUST buy the budget. It is called ‘free-trade’, australia is a dumping ground, QUALITY, value adding jobs sent to China. Too late now shaneqld, enjoy the ride.

  115. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 8:51 pm

    This too shaneqld …. “Australian retail is that it is the most concentrated in the world, any new entrants that provide competition is better for consumers.”

  116. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 8:55 pm

    The govt will help this along too shaneqld
    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/more-to-work-online-says-pm-20121111-296hv.html

  117. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    November 12, 2012 9:00 pm

    This is where australias going to end up.
    We follow the yanks, so expect some of the yank out-comes.
    Detroit, aka motor city, previous big auto-making city.
    http://westmorelandtimes.com/news/2012/10/detroit-enter-at-your-own-risk/

    Jobs sent to China.

  118. You're Gonna Need a Bigger Boat permalink
    November 12, 2012 10:24 pm

    “Woolies and Coles – and Westfield need to be afaid – very afraid … good for consumers!”

    I doubt it

    Aldi has around 900 products on their shelves. The big 2 have around 27 thousand. Few but the poor want a tiny selection like that. Though some of their Camembert is quite nice. And the peanut butter was great until they switched.
    And Costco are a bulk market requiring massive floor space which is just not available any longer. So you’ll only get a few outlets in each city. So that means spending alot on petrol just to buy up big on toilet paper and dog food. After all are you going to shop for a plasma every Saturday morning?

  119. Tu vas avoir besoin d'un plus gros bateau permalink
    November 12, 2012 10:47 pm

    And I see Le Aussies are smashing the Seth Afreecarn bowlers all over the park I’ve noticed.

    Oi Oi Oi

  120. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    November 12, 2012 11:20 pm

    1: Aldi has around 900 products on their shelves.
    2: The big 2 have around 27 thousand.
    3: Few but the poor want a tiny selection

    While 1 & 2 are accurate, they are not relevant.
    On 3 you’re just being nasty.
    The aldis and the costcos biz-plan is a smaller variety,
    (that is no secret)
    and price, price, price, cheap, cheap, cheap,

  121. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 13, 2012 9:33 am

    should have posted here…

    It seems that Gillard has again been caught out telling porkies. She seems to be hooked on lying, an affliction that she’s demonstrably had for a couple of decades.

    Incompetent and dishonest, that will be Gillard’s legacy.

    ”LAW firm Slater & Gordon has contradicted Julia Gillard’s claim that she was not in charge of legal work for the purchase in 1993 of a Fitzroy property later found to have been bought with stolen union money.
    Ms Gillard – a former salaried partner with the firm – last week denied responsibility for conveyancing work on the purchase of the Kerr Street unit by a crony of her disgraced former boyfriend Bruce Wilson.
    ”I was not in charge of the conveyancing file,” she told journalists during a visit to Laos.
    But Slater & Gordon managing director Andrew Grech has confirmed Ms Gillard ”acted directly” in the conveyancing work on the property purchase”

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/lawyers-contradict-pms-claim-20121112-298es.html#ixzz2C3ArRpbG

  122. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    November 13, 2012 9:39 am

    Our wonderful PM ( I didn’t do it) Julia

    Fast becoming the Lance Armstrong of Australian politics

    So much new evidence as time progresses on but so few answers offered up

  123. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    November 13, 2012 9:42 am

    “While 1 & 2 are accurate, they are not relevant.”

    Rather than just dismiss it why is that not relevant ?

    I would have thought it was very relevant

  124. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 13, 2012 9:52 am

    In parliament recently Gillard objected to the following from Abbott – “you’re a piece of work”

    Apparently Gillard found this misogynist or offensive or unparliamentarily or something.

    Heavens!! Normally compulsive liars are more thick skinned, because I think Gillard is certainly a piece of work.

    “You’re a piece fo work” would fit well on a bumper sticker.

  125. el gordo permalink
    November 13, 2012 10:19 am

    Its acceptable slang, without sexist slant, but the strategy is working because Nooze poll has the monk further down the slippery slope.

    Bronwyn Bishop for PM.

  126. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 13, 2012 10:30 am

    Bronwyn Bishop is ‘a piece of work’

    …and Wayne Swan is ‘2 pieces of work!’

  127. el gordo permalink
    November 13, 2012 10:48 am

    “The trouble with political jokes is that very often they get elected.”

    LOL

  128. TB Queensland permalink
    November 13, 2012 10:59 am

    But Slater & Gordon managing director Andrew Grech …

    Not Godwin’s brother! 😆

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Rather than just dismiss it why is that not relevant ?

    Because it still gives you SOME choice, yer, Wally! 🙄

  129. November 13, 2012 11:48 am

    Have you guys stepped into a Cosco…?

    I strolled into the one in Melbourn a while ago and straight away it struck my why so many Americans are fat bastards.

  130. TB Queensland permalink
    November 13, 2012 12:28 pm

    sreb, Costco do sell more than tucker, y’know!

    $60 annual membership … for two ID cards … (see bottom of link)

    http://www.buckscoop.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=18228

  131. November 13, 2012 12:37 pm

    I know TB, but everything is in bulk.

    In the food section they sell 18″ chocolate mud cakes in packs of fifty!

  132. November 13, 2012 12:38 pm

    disclaimer: that last comment might’ve contained a hint of slight exaggeration.

  133. TB Queensland permalink
    November 13, 2012 3:30 pm

    LOL! Very unlike you, sreb … 😉

  134. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 13, 2012 3:41 pm

    Americans are certainly fat, and they wear tartan shirts with bright checked trousers to distract from this.

    It’s a good look in Little Rock, Arkansas, which is about to displace Paris as the chic capital.

  135. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    November 13, 2012 4:23 pm

    ” While 1 & 2 are accurate, they are not relevant. ”

    The aldis and the costcos biz-plan is a smaller variety,
    (that is no secret)
    and price, price, price, cheap, cheap, cheap,

  136. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    November 13, 2012 4:27 pm

    I see you see lack of choice as a good thing

    That’s good.

    So did the Politburo

  137. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    November 13, 2012 4:36 pm

    ‘ I see you see lack of choice as a good thing ‘
    That is the simpleton view. Aldi is 30% cheaper.

    For the same money
    Choice 1, get 3 items at coles or woolies, OR,
    Choice 2, get 4 items at Aldi

    There is more to the word CHOICE than the simpletons try to imply

  138. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    November 13, 2012 4:41 pm

    The 30% used is average over a mixed basket, obviously the discount at Aldi varies up and down from the average, but Aldi is always cheaper than coles and woolies.

  139. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    November 13, 2012 4:46 pm

    For Same money,
    1 packet of pasta at woolies or coles, OR,
    2 packets of pasta from Aldi
    (same deal for soda-water, cola, too)

  140. el gordo permalink
    November 13, 2012 5:09 pm

    NSW public service is a bully’s club.

    ‘One in two public servants has witnessed bullying in the workplace according to a “warts and all” review of the NSW public sector.

    ‘The review found almost half – 48 per cent of people surveyed – had witnessed bullying at work. Almost a third – 29 per cent – said they had been bullied in the past 12 months and 6 per cent had formally complained about bullying behaviour.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/bullying-rife-in-public-service-report-says-20121113-299wn.html#ixzz2C51b1nqs

  141. TB Queensland permalink
    November 13, 2012 6:51 pm

    NSW public service is a bully’s club.

    And the point is?

    Probably the same in every government and council in the country … but do I give a $#!t … nah … because my family friends and I, will have been bullied at least once by every level of government in the country – and every one of the pricks who picked on me or mine has FAILED … not so, with some of my friends, unfortunately …

  142. TB Queensland permalink
    November 13, 2012 7:11 pm

    It seems that Gillard has again been caught out telling porkies.

    Yeah, ToM, I’m beginning to think you may be right … the Prime Minister has said that she is an athiest … but took some time to decide on a Royal Commission and then waterd it down (in the Catlicks favour) by including other “not for profit” ( OTHER NFP! THE RCC! GMAFB!) organisations …

    The PM AND the LotO are owned by the fkn Catlick church …

    As JC tipped the moneylenders table so should we tip the Religious Robber Baron hypocrites!

  143. scrambled egg permalink
    November 13, 2012 8:15 pm

    Gillard has again been caught out telling porkies

    Royal Commission and then waterd it down

    Don’t worry, Gillards going to be tough on the
    Country Womens Association!

  144. el gordo permalink
    November 13, 2012 8:20 pm

    Cranky Women’s Association

  145. TB Queensland permalink
    November 13, 2012 8:31 pm

    egg, has anyone told you your a misogynist?

  146. el gordo permalink
    November 13, 2012 8:54 pm

    Often…and politically incorrect.

  147. TB Queensland permalink
    November 13, 2012 9:03 pm

    actually its “you’re”

  148. Tu vas avoir besoin d'un plus gros bateau permalink
    November 13, 2012 10:04 pm

    “NSW public service is a bully’s club.”

    What have the Managers started asking for Doctors Certificates ?

  149. Tu vas avoir besoin d'un plus gros bateau permalink
    November 13, 2012 10:30 pm

    “That is the simpleton view. Aldi is 30% cheaper.”

    Because it is imported “Homebrand” . So don’t start whinging next time another job at Arnotts or SPC goes .

    So if you are happy with “Homebrand” go for it.

    But remember to wrap your garbage carefully as it will save on embarrassment and don’t expect to be headhunted by Masterchef.

    And even the Nescafé is imported. So one week to the next you will never know whether your Nescafé is imported processed African beans or the more bitter South American bean (by the way that’s why USA coffee is shit as they use American beans whilst Europe and Oz use African )

  150. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 14, 2012 11:37 am

    What about those Aussie cricketers? (oi!)

    Taking on the might of South Africa, and frightening the sh!t out of them.

    Our boys certainly made us proud, as a Nation, under one Flag.

    (oi!)

  151. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    November 15, 2012 7:38 am

    Shepparton Preserving Company and Ardmona. The company is currently owned by Coca-Cola Amatil. The acquisition was finalised on the 25th of February 2005
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPC_Ardmona

    basically owned by the yanks via subsidiary

  152. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    November 15, 2012 7:43 am

    Arnott’s in full. Thus, in 1997, Arnott’s Biscuits Ltd became a wholly owned subsidiary of the Campbell Soup Company.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnott's_Biscuits_Holdings
    then sold by campbells to dollar sweets (aust)

  153. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    November 15, 2012 7:48 am

    ” it is imported “Homebrand” . So don’t start whinging next time another job at Arnotts or SPC goes ”

    read the labels of stuff you get from coles or woolies dude,
    most of their stuff is imported too, you went all pot/kettle
    (the jobs will go when the ceo needs a pay rise)

    ‘ So if you are happy with “Homebrand” go for it. ‘
    Yep, happy with the discount.

  154. el gordo permalink
    November 16, 2012 8:03 pm

    ‘The newspaper said Mr Rajoy and his advisers fear that the German, Dutch, and Finnish parliaments may block a rescue or impose intolerable terms. They also believe that France will be sucked into the maelstrom before long as its own dire problems come the surface, changing the political dynamic in Europe.

    ‘Prof Luis Garicano from the LSE said it would be an “outstanding idea” for Spain to break free of EU austerity diktats and seek a neutral umpire. “The IMF has been on the side of reason, whereas the EU has been behaving like a creditor trying to get its money back.”

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard UK Tele

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