Asylum Seekers Celebrate New Gillard Govt “Red Carpet” Detention Policies!

Good post reb.

I found this fun, I didn’t give Abbott or Gillard a job.

Rudd – PM, Turnbull – Treasurer, Carr – Foreign Affairs.

http://www.news.com.au/national/fantasy-cabinet-create-your-own-political-dream-team/story-fndo4eg9-1226528888658

I think I have said plenty on this topic…But hey, you need cheap labor and Labor needs votes so if you can’t change the populous with policy you bring in a new populous…Goodbye Australia, poor blokes…Welcome to Arizona…

‘LABOR’S asylum-seeker regime faces a new High Court challenge after a group of 56 Sri Lankan asylum-seekers launched an urgent bid to block their deportation, challenging the government’s “screening out” process.

‘The Refugee Action Coalition brought the challenge on behalf of the Sri Lankans, who claim they were due to be deported on the orders of Immigration Minister Chris Bowen this morning. At 4.30pm yesterday, they sought an injunction to stop their removal and received an undertaking that they would not be removed before their case was heard again on Thursday.’

Rick Morton and Sid Maher in the Oz

It’s all laid on for them.

All supplied by someone some proclaim is a ‘racist’ because of said policy?

I’m fucken’ confused now 😯

The luxury life of leisure, thanks to Our government…a typical day for an asylum seeker…

Get out of bed
Shower
Breakfast – choice of bread or water
Look at inside of a tent
Watch TV
Look at computer
Look inside of tent
Lunch – choice of rice or water
Watch TV
Go to psych counseling
Dinner – decide to choose a hunger strike
Look at inside of tent
Plan the activities for the next day
Sleep in a tent with 12 other men

Repeat X 2000 days

” the last decade in Afghanistan will be wasted when we pull out in 2014 “

Your spot on there. All the small groups will first remove installed lackies of the Blair/Bush regimes, then fight for their own group.

” I hope we make our own minds up next time instead of listening to the USA “

You and I know that aint gunna happen. Canberra produces dedicated stooges to Washington.

“This is why they all fear those evil boat-people.”

Fear, no they (the refugee and economic migrant so blatantly defying law) just so plainly represent why government in itself is the answer to nothing. I was under the impression citizens should care when their governments hold that some treaty with the UN trumps their own rights and makes a mockery of their laws? When national sovereignty is ceded to a form of “controlled anarchy” at the highest levels of government; it can only lead to more of the same and what you get, as is evident by this debate, is moral equivalence of the law itself. Honestly, if government is unable to efficiently handle the most basic of its duties and functions, why do so many have such faith in it? It seems here in the West there is this “arrogance” and dismissive mindset that their respective countries will never go the way of some of these developing nations…They are mistakenly ignorant as have been all major civilizations in the past that have gone to the dust bin of time in much the same fashion and with the same level of complacency.

This blog for example, spends countless posts debating “he said she said” and “who is the biggest liar”, bore…Keep the “populous” arguing over “shit” and they become too immersed in it to notice what is happening around them. Little by little, insidious in nature their countries crumble around them. Mine, it’s lost, on its way out…Australia, soon after as they seem hell bent on importing the worst of my country; in culture and politics…Geography is the only factor which will aid in slowing its demise.

“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.”

” I was under the impression citizens should care when their governments hold that some treaty with the UN trumps their own rights and makes a mockery of their laws? “

Gibberish.

” This blog for example, spends countless posts debating “he said she said” and “who is the biggest liar”, bore…Keep the “populous” arguing over “shit” and they become too immersed in it to notice what is happening around them. “

But you watch foxnews, right?
Shouldn’t you be MORE concerned about a major so-called news-org than a mere blog?

” Australia, …. they seem hell bent on importing the worst of my country; in culture and politics “

Absolutely true, our rich/politicians love teabag theory.

” Geography is the only factor which will aid in slowing its demise. “

It won’t slow it by much, if at all.
We sent lots of our jobs and wealth to China too.
Also failed to collect proper tax-rates from the rich.

Teabag Theory, on tax breaks
The trickle down Reagan-omics teabag theory of more tax cuts/breaks for the richest is the claim the rich will have more money to grow the business, create more jobs, pay higher wages, thus workers and business consume more, which generates more tax.

The reality is, more often than not, that money goes into a Swiss bank account or the Boards luxury yacht/home/salary.

Teabag Theory, Life is Precious
Here too, teabag theory dupes the religions. The religions are meant to believe ‘life is precious’, so they hysterically screech about abortion, to stupid to notice they are standing beside the weapons maker and the nra stooge, both also screeching about the right to bear arms.

Every american has the right to bear arms and nobody has the right not to be shot, or the right to medical if they are.

Lets not leave out the weapons makers who make lots of money when america runs off to another war of bullshit to murder people in other countries, kidnap and torture people offshore, but lets worry about abortion.

What a load of crap teabag theory is.

It would seem that Toot Toot ( who I suspect a few of us recognise) was obviously hitting the bottle rather hard last night.

Toot Toot likes to say something, which is the purpose of a blog. But I’m not sure what they’re on about.

Anyway, I think it is great that Toot Toot likes to pop in.

Hmm…

When addressing climate change, population etc I have been told by many (this forum and others) that the reason people in poor countries have a high birth rate is due to the need for large families in order to care for them in old age as so many die during child birth I have always found this to be just another excuse. Seems i am vindicated once again…

“Trying to Close Orphanages Where Many Aren’t Orphans at All”

Again, we should be mandating birth control measures for any country receiving food aid. Seems apparent to me that doing otherwise simply exacerbates large populations, poverty and the asylum issue…They refuse, they can feed themselves…

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/05/world/americas/campaign-in-haiti-to-close-orphanages.html?hp&_r=0

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/smugglers-bargains-set-off-boat-rush-with-passage-from-sri-lanka-for-500/story-fn9hm1gu-1226530845651

Ah…tugs at the heart strings…Never fear fake refugees fleeing poverty for an entitlement state, there is plenty to go around…Labor needs your vote and the Liberals need your labor to fill “fake” skills shortages like hairdressers, cooks etc…LMAO

” When national sovereignty is ceded to a form of “controlled anarchy” at the highest levels of government; it can only lead to more of the same and what you get, as is evident by this debate, is moral equivalence of the law itself. Honestly, if government is unable to efficiently handle the most basic of its duties and functions, why do so many have such faith in it? “
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This is more of your gibberish Sparta.
Want to explain it, or run?

“chance encounter with a Tea Party lunatic ”
” and said she was afraid to because”
” She didn’t want to get droned.”
http://www.democracy-tree.com/tea-party-conspiracy-theorist-drones/
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This is bloody hilarious el gordo.
Getting ” droned ” sounds nearly as scary as
” universally health cared “

Much too lucid for the mayor.

This is a huge policy failure.

” I don’t recall Sparta “name calling” and certainly not “running.”
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Jaws, stop trying to rely on your ” recall ” and just scroll up the page and read. It is that simple to not make oneself look silly!

” Sparta’s answers might test TT’s patience.”
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Jaws, Sparta’s answers to most things is, gibberish and nonsense that does not test anything except Sparta’s own comprehension level of the english language. Insulting TB, kittylitter, others, or me won’t change that.

Jaws, it looks like sparta just proved you wrong and TB correct.

I got similar nonsense when I challenged, sparta, a few days ago — I’m a “teenager” with “no knowledge of the world” apparently … sound familiar?

TB, with all due respect, you have never challenged me on anything dude. Would you like to revisit said conversation and see exactly what was said? Where was the challenge? You posted insults, nothing more…You guys are amusing if not delusional. Having arguments with yourself. Again, if you disagree with what I say, respond to it and I will do the same..They call this a discussion, ever heard of it?

Have you ever noticed,

that global warming denialist’s drag blog threads off topic, and when they get caught out with their bullshitting, they shriek hysterically about being called a ” denier ”

and

right wing crack pipes behave in a similar style and, when they get caught out with their bullshit, they shriek about being called “teabag”

both types then return and spout similar nonsense, just like it came out of some kind of “handbook” ?

Toot toot is a fkn ratbag, while Sparta is pragmatic and intelligent.

If you want a fine example of another ratbag you look no further than Julia Gillard.

First she imposes a Carbon Tax to push Electricity Prices skyward.

Now this week she wants to appear as some sort of hero by introducing “Reforms” to reduce Electricity Prices.

If thats not a case of the original Arsonist turning up to a house fire dressed as a Fireman I dont know what is.

“But Toot Toot is welcome anyway.”

Yes of course…………..every Village needs one.

Many of us here in DC live by teabag theory. It is how our voters want it. Our voters also demand we action teabag theory at every or any opportunity, so we do. You may all recall our glorious investigation our Ken Starr undertook several years ago. He managed to rightly investigate the Presidential Penis, an interns vagina, and if laundry was done. We are fully satisfied with Ken Starr’s investigation and the proper use of taxpayer revenue. It was done on budget of $40 million.

Nils is rusted on to the Howard Years.

Forget about China.
We are still the worlds super-power.
We have our military bases in many countries.
Nobody has a military base on our soil.
We will not be mocked.

” ratbag, while Sparta is pragmatic and intelligent.”
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Special Agent Sparta will not be mocked el gordo

Everyone who has an opinion obtuse to the Left seems to be “naive”

There is no obtuseness in understanding the opinion, the obtuseness inherent in the owner of said opinion is the problem.

Kitty’s a “big girl” and I challenge her ideas dude…

There you go again.

Haven’t noticed much challenging, when you get any return fire or find yourself having to justify your teabaggery nonsense, you just disappear, then simply return again with another load of racist, white male superior ‘challenges’ and conspiracies as if you’ve completely forgotten you still have unanswered challenges of your own to reply to. You prefer personal put-down to genuine debate because your ‘ideas’ pretty much stink and you can’t defend ignorance, bigotry and the illogical.

yes TB, is toiletboss on strike?

Sparta my Sri Lankan business partner and her large extended family are hard on illegals, more so than me. From my perspective a large concentration camp in the desert is well over due and not just for boat people, but anyone who overstays their visa.

Australia isn’t in for a recession, just slowing growth. We’re fortunate enough to be linked to the new world, not the old.

China will continue to grow at 7%+ which is enough to sustain our resources sector, and underpin the base load of finance, engineering and some smaller manufacturing. Retail is in decline, and empty shop fronts doesn’t do a lot for confidence.

I wouldn’t panic about our economic prospects over the next decade, it’s strong enough to withstand even Swan’s incompetence.

(Nope, not using spell check or proofreading)
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Our teabag/denier handbook is quite clear,
we are not allowed to proofread.
Only copy and paste! That’s the teabag way.
Our goal is to fill blogs with teabag theory nonsense, which lefty cannot ignore, and waste their time trying to decipher gibberish.

We will not discuss the effect on business that relied on SOBS either,
(south of border slaves) now those business’s are denied cheap labor because of the ‘border fence’.

I’m sure TeaBag has something to say… and it will be really interesting when they figure out what it is.

The Tony Abbott I know will never support the nbn reb.
We can only sit back and enjoy ‘ irony ‘ of his minions spouting their teabag theory on the internet!

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Great point!

Maybe we can pin this phenomena on European Imperialism some 100 years ago?

We can pin it on US style capitalism, the idea that everyone should have the dream of great wealth if you simply work hard very hard. Only trouble is there is also an idea that hardworking people should not pay tax to support the millions that don’t get to be part of the great american dream. They, of course must be the lazy, undeserving and sluttish ones.

Enormous profits being made by large corporations, CEO’s and the wealthy and the teabaggers can’t see that their anger and resentment should be directed at the big end of town, those who aren’t paying their share because of tax cuts and incentives.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/business/economy/a-tax-code-of-politics-not-practicality.html?ref=eduardoporter

…Our byzantine tax code is built upon a longstanding political deal: Democrats wanted a tax scale with higher rates for richer Americans to finance social programs aimed at the poor and the middle class. Republicans countered by pushing for tax exceptions, exclusions and deductions that shielded the incomes of the rich from the taxman and reduced government revenue.

…Compared to other developed countries, the United States doesn’t collect much tax at all. Tax revenue at all levels of government adds up to less than 25 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product, putting us behind every other rich country and even some poor ones. Among the 34 nations in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, only Mexico and Chile collect less in taxes. The average across the O.E.C.D. is 9 percentage points higher.

In DC, we are fully owned and operated by the corporations and their lobbyists. They also own and operate other governments as well. Our corporations under the guidance of Karl Rove and the Koch brothers demand we retain our Tax Loopholes. This is why we have Tax Havens like Monarco and Lechtenstein, the rich can afford the setup costs, the working class cannot. We must also retain our (Swiss) secret bank accounts.

To understand DC, you first need to understand democracy. So called democracy is about setting limitations on the under-class, setting privileges for the upper-class, and giving everybody the chance to agree on it at the ballot-box. Too bad if the public can’t hear the truth over the racket of the Lobbyists.

So called democracy is about setting limitations on the under-class, setting privileges for the upper-class, and giving everybody the chance to agree on it at the ballot-box.

Which is why the waters have to be muddied with racism, gender and class warfare, if the people knew what was being done in their name, conservatives could never win an election [and much more would be expected from progressive govts].

” Racism and gender bias are natural human traits”
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Who says that el gordo?

” class warfare is a meme “
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Bullshit. The Tax system that gives one group of citizens favorable treatment over other groups of citizens proves most countries have classes, and they favor the rich.

” I said it ”
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That wasn’t very smart. You need better sources.

Racism and gender bias are natural human traits, class warfare is a meme.

Natural or socialisation? Potential vs actual development?

Luckily with education, enlightenment and humanity, we [some of us anyway] can evolve past the chimpanzee thinking to rise above base instincts.

If you think that racism and gender bias are natural human traits then you must [if you are to remain logical] think class warfare is too, since jealousy, envy, greed and avarice are natural human emotions.

Reasoning requires intelligence and education.

… I’m heterosexual, male and white … but I try to understand the frustration of women, coloured and gay people who have/are still seen as a threat… I can but try …

That is higher order thinking, all that’s needed to change the world!

‘ boss or TB would be more suited to answer’

Its not my portfolio, I only studied Marx as an undegrad and came to the conclusion that the dictatorship of the proletariat was not what Marx had in mind…class struggles and all that.

In the 21st century a revolution may come about naturally, don’t know.

The Wayne Swan I know 
will always answer difficult questions with
 ”I’m not a tech-head”, and,
 ”abbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottott “

Then finish it off with “The Leader of the Opposition should talk about policies”

” I have lost faith with the high priests of science”
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But not the shock jocks right?

The Tony Abbott I know
will have to watch Wayne Swan from the opposition benches in 2014, 2015 and 2016.

The Tony Abbott I know
will enjoy minor spikes in popularity during 2013. These spikes will be short lived.

I love the new teabag slamming theme underway here.

😆

” Are you callin’ me a liar? “
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Are you remaining ‘ fact free ‘?

‘Are you remaining ‘ fact free ‘?’

Why would I lie about voting for joolya?

I was rusted on.

‘ Are you callin’ me a liar? ‘
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Does the Egg-Shell fit?

The Tony Abbott I know
follows denier faith and teabag theory because he is
‘ Rusted on to a belief system ‘

Muslims don’t celebrate the birth of whatsisname … Santa Clause? David Jones? Mr Myer?

Really TB? You’ve taught me something again today!

I think the point is that we wish them SEASONS GREETINGS!, and hope they are able to enjoy a real hearty meal, and a good red.

Thanks for that.
You just showed us all how unworthy a teabag you are.
You came here with no story, point, argument or reason.
Kitty and TB didn’t deserve that shit you just put on them.

‘You came here with no story, point, argument or reason.’

Talking about yerself ratbag.

Tea Twattle,

Honestly, the victim card falls a bit on deaf ears after reading your posts…You idles are no exception either with plenty of foul things to say about others and oddly, you have never once said a word? Hmm, guess the same could be said of you…..Give the hypocritical, sanctimonious crap a rest, seriously…

What Sparta says is essentially true, the UN needs its wings clipped on a whole range of issues otherwise the organisation will continue to lose credibility.

Proud to be a cold AZhole.

Thanks for the insight boss, clipping the wings of the organisation would be prudent …to avoid the rise of nationalism in these economically unhealthy times. History repeats itself unless we learn from past mistakes.

The IPCC needs to be cut loose and economic asylum should be reanalysed.

Sparta is entitled to his opinion, the US is different to us. I find him informative.

Yeah, all around town the recession bites. My son was retrenched from his job in Sydney and has come home…and the medicos say my dad is unable to take care of himself so I’ve got him on the bottom floor.

Haven’t taken wages for a month and the pension is only $100 a week, so everyone is running on empty. The deflationary spiral is interesting to observe up close.

‘maybe your listening to the wrong people’

I have been left wing Labor all my life, so my judgement on this is well considered.

Sparta is trying to warn us on the issue of asylum seekers, but his perspective is different to ours. My view, as you well know, is to build a leisure centre at Ord and accept economic refugees.

If they are foolish enough to risk their lives to get here, they will probably become good Australians and deserve a chance.

In a bipartisan approach we should increase the immigration numbers so that those already on the list are not disadvantaged by illegal entries.

” Muslims don’t drink Tom.”

Heavens! We learn so much here!

So what’s the point of eating meat?

Hey, what do you know, I am agreement with this report on many instances but for a few. Clearly it was formulated by “racists”….

There are no practical obstacles to withdrawing from the Convention. Article 44 (2) states that any contracting state can denounce or withdraw, with one year’s notice. Such a move would be unprecedented-no state has ever withdrawn. The threat of instant international pariah status is however less compelling at a time when the asylum system is widely seen as ‘broke’. Australia’s credentials on refugees and managed migration are unsurpassed, and it has played above its demographic weight in international forums on migration and refugee issues. Australia could stay within EXCOM. In theory, withdrawal from the Convention would free up a considerable amount of money which could be redirected to countries of first asylum. It would also enable Australia to recommit to a sizeable offshore refugee resettlement program. While Australia is obviously not a large enough player to lead the world, it could thus provide an impetus for reform.

Withdrawal might not however provide an immediate practical solution. Asylum from political persecution and the principle of non-refoulement have become part of international customary law; the government and the judiciary would still have to process and deal with claims. As well, Australia is party to other treaties which prevent people being sent back into situations of danger, or gross violation of their civil rights, namely the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and the Convention Against Torture and Other Degrading and Inhuman Treatment (CAT).

Withdrawal from the Refugee Convention would however enable Australia to develop and regularise, on its own terms, more transparent and understandable criteria and provisions for dealing with on-shore asylum seekers.

http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp0001/01RP05

” differentiate between real refugees escaping persecution and those who just want a better life.”

That’s called the screening process, and it happens to result in most being found to be genuine.

Thus far there aren’t so many arriving here that it is disrupting our economy or our ability of accommodate them or our existing culture. In fact there is no logical reason that we are trying to shun them.

The only reason is redneck appeasement, and people will have to forgive me if I’m not persuaded that this is a particularly good reason.

‘That’s called the screening process, and it happens to result in most being found to be genuine.’

I don’t dispute that ToM, certainly its the view of Amnesty International, but its worth further investigation.

Have a look at what the right wingnuts are saying.

You want to hear my solution …. Ord Leisure Centre, where UK residents overstaying their visa may find themselves rubbing shoulders with Tamil Tigers.

Found this at a government website…

‘Until recently, the vast majority of asylum seekers applying for protection in Australia have arrived originally by air with a valid visa and then applied for asylum at a later date while living in the community.

‘Historically, boat arrivals only made up a small proportion of asylum applicants— estimates vary, but it is likely that between 96 and 99 percent of asylum applicants arrived by air.

‘More recently the proportions of Irregular Maritime Arrival (IMA) and non‐IMA (that is air arrival) asylum seekers have shifted due to the increase in boat arrivals. However, boat arrivals still comprise less than half of Australia’s onshore asylum seekers.’

‘Imagine trying to fence the Ord.’

No need for fences.

Being ironically deficient is not a crime, I was born this way.

‘ASYLUM-seeker panel chairman Angus Houston has endorsed the sending home of hundreds of Sri Lankan boat people identified in screening interviews as economic migrants.

‘More than 800 Sri Lankans have been deported in recent months under the so-called virtual tow-backs policy, prompting howls of protest from refugee activists.’

Ben Packham in the Oz

Thailand has a similar problem to the US.

‘There are an estimated 2.5 million migrant workers in Thailand. About 80 percent of them are from Burma and because of costs, corruption and porous borders, most are undocumented.

‘They work in factories, orchards, fishing and construction, but their illegal status leaves them vulnerable to abuse by unscrupulous employers, corrupt police and officials.’

“The majority of ‘over stayers’ on average have been here for more than 10 years.”

Even Tide really should head back to their much maligned TAFE College themselves it would seem. Though I doubt he’d pass the mathematics entry level exam.

Or perhaps they are looking for a “political backdoor” escape by not specifying “overall” or “absolute”……………Hang on……….silly me assuming he’d even know the difference

“……….MORE than half of the overstayers have called Australia home for five or more years. ABOUT 20,000 have lived here a decade or more.”

Mmmm………….20,000 out of 58,000 is not an absolute majority

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/illegal-immigrants-arrive-by-plane/story-e6frea6u-1226200568050

“THE Gillard government is now the third largest recipient of its own foreign aid program, opposition foreign affairs spokeswoman Julie Bishop says.”

I heard on the radio that to get a place on the UN we had to give more foreign aid. Some of that foreign aid we are now giving to ourselves. The allegation on the radio is that the govt has lied to the UN.

Looks like it is true. Labor lied about increasing foreign aid. But I guess it is just a white lie. We are giving $375M to ourselves. Serves the countries right who voted for us for trusting Gillard.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/labor-mp-slams-foreign-aid-cut-20121217-2bjd1.html

“Acting Opposition Leader Julie Bishop said that the aid cut sent a very bad message at the start of Australia’s two year stint on the UN Security Council. Ms Bishop said it was key plank of Australia’s pitch that it would increase aid spending to 0.5 per cent of gross national income.

“They have mislead countries into voting for them,” Ms Bishop told reporters in Melbourne on Tuesday.”

How much of the $375m will go to David Manne and his gang of lawyers ?

Dear oh dear Wally. I suspect you are trying hard but you have no command of the language or at least as to how it’s used in educated circles. Here’s a few examples:

Even Tide really should head back to their ..

‘Their’ is plural Wally. Perhaps ‘Even Tide is a ‘collective?. Do you really believe that?. But wait:

doubt he’d

No doubt Wally even you will recognise that I can’t be both ‘singular’ and ‘plural’. But maybe not. LOL.

Then the intellectual confusion continues:

they are looking

Back to the ‘plural’. LOL. But wait, another flash of brillance.

assuming he’d

Back to the singular.

Then this piece of brilliance.

20,000 out of 58,000 is not an absolute majority

Dear oh dear. Who ever claimed it was? Not only a problem with basic grammar, but basic mathemeatics as well.

Think it’s time you stayed off the piss Wally

A “professor”. Talk about an over achiever. Luck to get a temporary tutor’s job in a AFE.

It is very amusing to see the SAME arguments starting to be trotted out by the Australian press as we have here. Since when is it even a logical stance to mention how long a “illegal” immigrant has broken law as having anything to do with “why” they should be allowed to stay? If it isn’t happening already these illegals will start having children as well and then they will be making arguments “about the children” and how cruel it would be to deport them now. “Australia is all they have ever known” they will say. First and foremost they are illegal, how long they manage to avoid the law is irrelevant. Either we are nations of laws or we are not…

I think more than anything it is this disrespect of the law on the part of the Illegal and his/her mouthpiece (the open borders crowd) that drives me crazy…It makes a mockery of everything and undermines all. I told you, cheap labor (Liberals) and easy votes (Labor)…..Old news here…

“……….Not only a problem with basic grammar, but basic mathemeatics as well.”

LOL

Too pissed to do a spellcheck N5 ?

Or just too wrapped up in your own pedantic never offer an opinion world.