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Asylum Seekers Celebrate New Gillard Govt “Red Carpet” Detention Policies!

December 3, 2012
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Asylum Seekers “celebrate” new Gillard Government policies

Reports are emerging that asylum seekers in Indonesia have swung into “party mode” and labelled Julia Gillard a “hero” after learning they will receive welfare payments and rent assistance should they make it to Australia by boat.

The wannabe citizens are ecstatic the government has conceded detention centres are beyond maximum capacity and that asylum seekers will be released into the community while their applications for refugee status are being processed.

Under new plans, asylum seekers will receive generous financial and housing support – as well as free health care – a massive boost from their conditions in Indonesia where many are struggling to afford food.

In order to ensure there is a smooth transition into Australian mainstream society, asylum seekers will be invited to attend an optional tax-payer funded “welcome to Australia” orientation program.

This twelve week course will be held at some of Australia’s finest five-star resorts and offer asylum seekers the opportunity to experience some of Australia’s most commonplace cultural traditions.

The program includes:

Champagne Etiquette

Is it acceptable to serve guests Australian sparkling at your next dinner party, or will only genuine French Champagne do?   With guest speakers from Australia’s finest wine producers and Claude d’Hautefeuille from Bollinger, France. Includes complimentary canapes and champagne tasting.

How to throw a Wine and Cheese Party

Discover the charm and sophistication of the quintessential Australian wine and cheese evening.  Find out how to select only the finest red wines for your family and friends with suitable accompanying cheeses.   Sponsored by Wolf Blass and the House of Beaufort Cheese (France).

Dressing in Style

Contrary to popular belief, the burqa is becoming increasingly fashionable in Australia and is widely tipped to be the “must have” fashion accessory in 2013.  Asylum seekers are encouraged to wear the burqa with pride in your new home and whenever you’re out in public to facilitate wider mainstream uptake.

Shopping for Grog

Visitors from Alcoholics Anonymous will explain the do’s and don’ts of shopping for alcohol, including a round up of the best buys from Dan Murphy. Discover how buying in bulk can save you time and money and win you new friends at the same time! Receive a $250 Dan Murphy’s voucher just for showing up!

dan murphys

It’s important to show your id when shopping for alcohol

How to make your own party drugs on a budget

One of the draw backs of living in Australia is that party drugs can be expensive, particularly if you’re planning on making a habit out of it. However in this two-hour session you’ll learn how to make your own party drugs more or less safely at home. Includes a crystal meth demonstration, take home kit and party pack.

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Asylum seekers party hard after attending government funded meth classes

Dealing with Racial Intolerance

It’s a sad reality that you may encounter some religious or racially motivated abuse from ethnic Australians as you go about your daily routine. This could happen anywhere at any time, including at the cinema, supermarket or ice-cream shop.

However it’s important not to over react.

If you have a weapon, you should just kill these people, the same way as you might a homosexual or adulterous woman back in your own country. Just remember to claim “self defence” when the police arrive and everything will be fine.

Leader of the Opposition Tony Abbott has denounced the new Gillard Government initiatives while Greens Leader Christopher Milne said they didn’t go far enough.

Greens Senators Christine Milne, Cassey O'Connor and Sarah Hanson-Young attend press conference in Canberra dressed in burqas.

Greens Senators Christine Milne, Cassey O’Connor and Sarah Hanson-Young attend a press conference in Canberra dressed in burqas.

Speaking at a press conference in Canberra earlier today Senator Milne said that asylum seekers are “damaged people.”

“It’s important that we respond with a great deal of cultural sensitivity to ensure their transition to Australian society is as peaceful and smooth as possible.”

“Accordingly I will be asking the government to introduce new legislation banning the sale of pork or products containing pork in Australia henceforth.  The last thing we want to see is another Cronulla” she said.

Gay groups also agree.  Gay activist Rodney Croome conceded it might be time to wind back the controversial “homosexual agenda”.

“Look I think we’ve had it too good for too long now, and while marriage equality might be important, it’s perhaps more important to have a united harmonious society” he said.

“For this reason I would like to see the Government introduce some sort of badge of identification for homosexuals, so that muslims don’t inadvertently encounter one by mistake.”

“A pink triangle has worked in the past” he said.

Perhaps gays could just start wearing them voluntarily?  They needn’t be compulsory at first.

In a surprise development, the New South Wales Taxi Drivers’ Association has welcomed the move, with Newcastle representative Simon Sonul saying the government funding will help protect jobs.

“Usually they (asylum seekers) come here and take our jobs, but with this government funding our jobs are safe” he said.

Whether that remains a positive outcome for the Australian taxi traveling public remains to be seen.

 

 

 

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204 Comments leave one →
  1. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 3, 2012 3:04 pm

    Julia Gillard – ‘Let them eat cake’

  2. TB Queensland permalink
    December 3, 2012 3:11 pm

    The top photo on this news.com.au article is the one that pisses me off!

    http://www.news.com.au/national/party-time-as-pm-called-a-hero-over-asylum-seeker-detention-policies/story-fncynjr2-1226528431205

    Most of the men shown here are military age! Why should our young men die in Afghanistan, when their young men seek asylum in Australia!

    And it looks like the last decade in Afghanistan will be wasted when we pull out in 2014 …

    Just like VN (162-72 and 455 KIA) … I hope we make our own minds up next time instead of listening to the USA …

  3. TB Queensland permalink
    December 3, 2012 3:12 pm

    VN (1962-72

  4. el gordo permalink
    December 3, 2012 3:41 pm

    Good post reb.

  5. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 3, 2012 4:54 pm

    “Look I think we’ve had it too good for too long now, and while marriage equality might be important, it’s perhaps more important to have a united harmonious society” he said.
    “For this reason I would like to see the Government introduce some sort of badge of identification for homosexuals, so that muslims don’t inadvertently encounter one by mistake.”
    “A pink triangle has worked in the past” he said.

    Marvelous.

    When Gillard sets up an “expert panel” to advise her about marriage equality… I think this will be the type of expertise she is looking for!!

  6. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 3, 2012 9:36 pm

    I found this fun, I didn’t give Abbott or Gillard a job.

    Rudd – PM, Turnbull – Treasurer, Carr – Foreign Affairs.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/fantasy-cabinet-create-your-own-political-dream-team/story-fndo4eg9-1226528888658

  7. You're Gunna Need a Bigger Boat permalink
    December 3, 2012 10:37 pm

    We can laugh at rebs post but consider this.

    If you gave someone $220 per week in Indonesia they could live like a King or Queen for a month

    So this criminally incompetent government has now broadcast to the Third World that it will hand every boat person arriving here $220 per week.

    The problem is that the boat person only has a concept of the cost of living in their own country. It is an irresistible incentive to jump on a boat,.

    The day will surely come when even President Bambang Yudhoyono will appear in a boat on the horizon

    And the dickheads in the ALP wonder why the boats keep coming.

  8. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 4, 2012 4:00 am

    I think I have said plenty on this topic…But hey, you need cheap labor and Labor needs votes so if you can’t change the populous with policy you bring in a new populous…Goodbye Australia, poor blokes…Welcome to Arizona…

  9. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 4, 2012 4:03 am

    “And the dickheads in the ALP wonder why the boats keep coming.”

    No they don’t, this is “unofficial/official policy” dude shrouded in “humanity” and its “for the children”, that way if you contest you look like a “bad guy” …It is a way to “circumvent” immigration laws and bring in a voter base that is surely going to vote Labor…It has done wonders for our country and everybody else in the West, about time you guys caught up…

  10. el gordo permalink
    December 4, 2012 8:34 am

    ‘LABOR’S asylum-seeker regime faces a new High Court challenge after a group of 56 Sri Lankan asylum-seekers launched an urgent bid to block their deportation, challenging the government’s “screening out” process.

    ‘The Refugee Action Coalition brought the challenge on behalf of the Sri Lankans, who claim they were due to be deported on the orders of Immigration Minister Chris Bowen this morning. At 4.30pm yesterday, they sought an injunction to stop their removal and received an undertaking that they would not be removed before their case was heard again on Thursday.’

    Rick Morton and Sid Maher in the Oz

  11. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 4, 2012 9:30 am

    I think it’s great that these lucky people get a holiday and accommodation on a tropical island – INDEFINITELY & FREE!

    All meals – FREE! Leisure activities (ie TV) all day – FREE!

    Even after their holiday they’re not going to work!

    It’s all laid on for them.

  12. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2012 9:32 am

    It’s all laid on for them.

    All supplied by someone some proclaim is a ‘racist’ because of said policy?

    I’m fucken’ confused now 😯

  13. el gordo permalink
    December 4, 2012 9:49 am

    Crean wants to put in a train to Ord from Darwin.

    Four star facilities, swimming pools, gyms…etc.

    This is no concentration camp or detention centre, more a leisure centre.

  14. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 4, 2012 1:13 pm

    The luxury life of leisure, thanks to Our government…a typical day for an asylum seeker…

    Get out of bed
    Shower
    Breakfast – choice of bread or water
    Look at inside of a tent
    Watch TV
    Look at computer
    Look inside of tent
    Lunch – choice of rice or water
    Watch TV
    Go to psych counseling
    Dinner – decide to choose a hunger strike
    Look at inside of tent
    Plan the activities for the next day
    Sleep in a tent with 12 other men

    Repeat X 2000 days

  15. Tom R permalink
    December 4, 2012 3:02 pm

    That’s bullshit yomm

    There’s not one dot point there! 😆

  16. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    December 4, 2012 11:59 pm

    ” the last decade in Afghanistan will be wasted when we pull out in 2014 “

    Your spot on there. All the small groups will first remove installed lackies of the Blair/Bush regimes, then fight for their own group.

    ” I hope we make our own minds up next time instead of listening to the USA “

    You and I know that aint gunna happen. Canberra produces dedicated stooges to Washington.

  17. Toot Toot Canberra permalink
    December 5, 2012 12:17 am

    Canberra is Australia’s hot house for producing the limpets that cling to the arse of the Washington barge. This is why they all fear those evil boat-people.

    Canberra can also boast about their high production of lobbyists, advertisers and used-car salesmen dressed up as journalists. The echo chamber of the Nation.

    Canberra, where your tax dollars are well spent.

  18. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 5, 2012 1:02 am

    “This is why they all fear those evil boat-people.”

    Fear, no they (the refugee and economic migrant so blatantly defying law) just so plainly represent why government in itself is the answer to nothing. I was under the impression citizens should care when their governments hold that some treaty with the UN trumps their own rights and makes a mockery of their laws? When national sovereignty is ceded to a form of “controlled anarchy” at the highest levels of government; it can only lead to more of the same and what you get, as is evident by this debate, is moral equivalence of the law itself. Honestly, if government is unable to efficiently handle the most basic of its duties and functions, why do so many have such faith in it? It seems here in the West there is this “arrogance” and dismissive mindset that their respective countries will never go the way of some of these developing nations…They are mistakenly ignorant as have been all major civilizations in the past that have gone to the dust bin of time in much the same fashion and with the same level of complacency.

    This blog for example, spends countless posts debating “he said she said” and “who is the biggest liar”, bore…Keep the “populous” arguing over “shit” and they become too immersed in it to notice what is happening around them. Little by little, insidious in nature their countries crumble around them. Mine, it’s lost, on its way out…Australia, soon after as they seem hell bent on importing the worst of my country; in culture and politics…Geography is the only factor which will aid in slowing its demise.

    “If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.”

  19. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 5, 2012 1:24 am

    ” government in itself is the answer to nothing. “
    Unfortunately very true.
    The Bush regime produced no answers for the american people.
    It should have.
    Instead, the Bush regime wasted the nations wealth on war.

  20. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 5, 2012 1:28 am

    ” I was under the impression citizens should care when their governments hold that some treaty with the UN trumps their own rights and makes a mockery of their laws? “

    Gibberish.

  21. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 5, 2012 1:31 am

    ” if government is unable to efficiently handle the most basic of its duties and functions, why do so many have such faith in it? “

    That is a great question to ask teabags that voted for Bush in 2004.
    You should ask them.

  22. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 5, 2012 1:35 am

    ” This blog for example, spends countless posts debating “he said she said” and “who is the biggest liar”, bore…Keep the “populous” arguing over “shit” and they become too immersed in it to notice what is happening around them. “

    But you watch foxnews, right?
    Shouldn’t you be MORE concerned about a major so-called news-org than a mere blog?

  23. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 5, 2012 1:40 am

    ” notice what is happening around them. Little by little, insidious in nature their countries crumble around them. Mine, it’s lost, on its way out “

    Your country is not crumbling. It is being dismantled from the inside by teabag type’s giving tax cuts/benefits/loopholes to the rich, who then send that money to their business in China, or Swiss bank account.

  24. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 5, 2012 1:46 am

    ” Australia, …. they seem hell bent on importing the worst of my country; in culture and politics “

    Absolutely true, our rich/politicians love teabag theory.

    ” Geography is the only factor which will aid in slowing its demise. “

    It won’t slow it by much, if at all.
    We sent lots of our jobs and wealth to China too.
    Also failed to collect proper tax-rates from the rich.

  25. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 5, 2012 1:56 am

    Sparta should read more about his own country pre Reagan and learn some actual facts. Intellectually, he is dramatically out-gunned at this blog, trying to spout worthless teabag theory.

  26. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 5, 2012 2:03 am

    Teabag Theory, on tax breaks
    The trickle down Reagan-omics teabag theory of more tax cuts/breaks for the richest is the claim the rich will have more money to grow the business, create more jobs, pay higher wages, thus workers and business consume more, which generates more tax.

    The reality is, more often than not, that money goes into a Swiss bank account or the Boards luxury yacht/home/salary.

  27. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 5, 2012 2:17 am

    Teabag Theory, on morality
    The religions have been hijacked by the corporate types by paying lip-service-only to the slutishness of ‘other’ women and trumpeted hysterically about abortion. While the religious have salivated on this, (and gay marriage too by the way) the religious have been duped into not questioning the morality of the corporations. There is not an industry in america that does not have morality issues. Big oil pollutes the world, even america, with destructive work practices, Exxon Valdez and Gulf of Mexico have destroyed american lives. Fracking Gas, Pacific Gas & Electric (thats Erin Brockovich to you dumb motherf–kers) have poisoned american children.

    Teabag morality.

  28. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 5, 2012 2:43 am

    Teabag Theory, Life is Precious
    Here too, teabag theory dupes the religions. The religions are meant to believe ‘life is precious’, so they hysterically screech about abortion, to stupid to notice they are standing beside the weapons maker and the nra stooge, both also screeching about the right to bear arms.

    Every american has the right to bear arms and nobody has the right not to be shot, or the right to medical if they are.

    Lets not leave out the weapons makers who make lots of money when america runs off to another war of bullshit to murder people in other countries, kidnap and torture people offshore, but lets worry about abortion.

    What a load of crap teabag theory is.

  29. el gordo permalink
    December 5, 2012 6:58 am

    Tea bag theorists believe in conspiracies.

    http://www.democracy-tree.com/tea-party-conspiracy-theorist-drones/

  30. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 5, 2012 9:15 am

    It would seem that Toot Toot ( who I suspect a few of us recognise) was obviously hitting the bottle rather hard last night.

  31. el gordo permalink
    December 5, 2012 9:19 am

    Turps is grouse.

  32. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 5, 2012 9:24 am

    Toot Toot likes to say something, which is the purpose of a blog. But I’m not sure what they’re on about.

    Anyway, I think it is great that Toot Toot likes to pop in.

  33. el gordo permalink
    December 5, 2012 11:42 am

    I’m putting this here because it seems appropriate.

    ‘FORCED marriage is not just a problem for other countries but is alive and well in Australia, a forum in Sydney has heard.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/forced-marriage-flourishing-here-says-goward-20121204-2at6u.html#ixzz2E8Kxi3gI

  34. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 6, 2012 12:41 am

    Hmm…

    When addressing climate change, population etc I have been told by many (this forum and others) that the reason people in poor countries have a high birth rate is due to the need for large families in order to care for them in old age as so many die during child birth I have always found this to be just another excuse. Seems i am vindicated once again…

    “Trying to Close Orphanages Where Many Aren’t Orphans at All”

    Again, we should be mandating birth control measures for any country receiving food aid. Seems apparent to me that doing otherwise simply exacerbates large populations, poverty and the asylum issue…They refuse, they can feed themselves…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/05/world/americas/campaign-in-haiti-to-close-orphanages.html?hp&_r=0

  35. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 6, 2012 12:55 am

    Toot, toot….

    Or whatever (avatar) you choose to hide behind…I suggest a bit of AA or counseling in general…Your comments are as ignorant as always and the rant is typical of a unhinged “lefty”…”oil, America, corporations, religion, Koch brothers blah, blah…”…

    Stop acting like a child..If you have the intellectual might and the fortitude you “think” you have then learn to form a coherent argument, I look forward to a discussion on any topic you like (one you will lose of course as my opinions unlike yours are not emotional) but we all know you don’t possess such fortitude…So, yes please, go have another drink. Your obsession with “Tea Bags” is quite pathological I am afraid but obsessive compulsive disorders are commonly found in those with “addictive predilections” as well….Good day to you; I wish you speedy sobriety, lucid thought and a future coherent mind to employ.

  36. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 6, 2012 2:33 am

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/smugglers-bargains-set-off-boat-rush-with-passage-from-sri-lanka-for-500/story-fn9hm1gu-1226530845651

    Ah…tugs at the heart strings…Never fear fake refugees fleeing poverty for an entitlement state, there is plenty to go around…Labor needs your vote and the Liberals need your labor to fill “fake” skills shortages like hairdressers, cooks etc…LMAO

  37. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 6, 2012 6:43 pm

    ” I look forward to a discussion on any topic you like “
    ===========================
    Clearly you don’t.
    I put several reply’s to your own words,
    separated and clear.

    But like all true teabags,
    you ran away and resorted to name calling.

  38. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 6, 2012 6:54 pm

    ” When national sovereignty is ceded to a form of “controlled anarchy” at the highest levels of government; it can only lead to more of the same and what you get, as is evident by this debate, is moral equivalence of the law itself. Honestly, if government is unable to efficiently handle the most basic of its duties and functions, why do so many have such faith in it? “
    =====================================
    This is more of your gibberish Sparta.
    Want to explain it, or run?

  39. el gordo permalink
    December 6, 2012 7:03 pm

    Possibly scaper?

  40. Toot Toot el gordo permalink
    December 6, 2012 7:12 pm

    “chance encounter with a Tea Party lunatic ”
    ” and said she was afraid to because”
    ” She didn’t want to get droned.”
    http://www.democracy-tree.com/tea-party-conspiracy-theorist-drones/
    ====================================
    This is bloody hilarious el gordo.
    Getting ” droned ” sounds nearly as scary as
    ” universally health cared “

  41. el gordo permalink
    December 6, 2012 7:26 pm

    I’m speechless.

  42. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2012 9:36 pm

    Much too lucid for the mayor.

  43. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2012 9:45 pm

    LOL!

  44. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2012 9:47 pm

    Speaking of whom … where’s Ser Toillette?

  45. el gordo permalink
    December 6, 2012 10:20 pm

    The boss might be on an awkward shift.

    So 400 asylum seekers have already arrived this month, from there they are jetting them straight into capital cities.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-06/darwin-asylum-seekers-fly-to-sydney-and-melbourne/4412438?section=vic

  46. el gordo permalink
    December 6, 2012 10:22 pm

    This is a huge policy failure.

  47. JAWS permalink
    December 6, 2012 10:48 pm

    That’s not scraper.

    But I agree with ToM. It’s a self banned Leftie.

    I don’t recall Sparta “name calling” and certainly not “running”. Clearly it escapes Toot Toot ( and why is that not a surprise) that Sparta is in a slightly different time zone hence Sparta’s answers might test TT’s patience.

  48. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2012 11:26 pm

    Sparta’s answers might test TT’s patience.

    It’s not patience he tests its logic

    I don’t recall Sparta “name calling”

    Your memory and comprehension certainly matches, sparta’s … 🙄

    Stop acting like a child … So, yes please, go have another drink. Your obsession with “Tea Bags” is quite pathological I am afraid but obsessive compulsive disorders are commonly found in those with “addictive predilections” as well….Good day to you; I wish you speedy sobriety, lucid thought and a future coherent mind to employ.

    I got similar nonsense when I challenged, sparta, a few days ago — I’m a “teenager” with “no knowledge of the world” apparently … sound familiar?

  49. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    December 6, 2012 11:54 pm

    ” It’s a self banned Leftie.”
    ===============================
    You do understand this says more about you jaws, than the person you aimed it at. Those that don’t swallow hook, line and sinker, the far, far, extreme right, (teabag-theory), nonsense, are not by default LEFTYs. They can just be undecided swing voters who don’t like bullshit.

  50. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    December 7, 2012 12:03 am

    ” I don’t recall Sparta “name calling” and certainly not “running.”
    ===================================
    Jaws, stop trying to rely on your ” recall ” and just scroll up the page and read. It is that simple to not make oneself look silly!

  51. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    December 7, 2012 12:13 am

    ” Clearly it escapes Toot Toot that Sparta is in a slightly different time zone”
    ====================================
    Bullshit. Sparta will not be any smarter in the pacific time zone or the eastern time zone or the central time zone, so he may as well remain in the mountain time zone.

  52. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    December 7, 2012 12:22 am

    ” Sparta’s answers might test TT’s patience.”
    ===================================
    Jaws, Sparta’s answers to most things is, gibberish and nonsense that does not test anything except Sparta’s own comprehension level of the english language. Insulting TB, kittylitter, others, or me won’t change that.

  53. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 7, 2012 12:34 am

    “Your memory and comprehension certainly matches, sparta’s ”

    This is what I find most amusing…I never “draw first blood” and personally attack anybody but once attacked, yes I will dish it back. Unfortunately all I usually get when trying to raise debate over a question is personal insult…There is a difference TB which you fail to grasp; you are infamous for hit and runs…

    Kitty’s a “big girl” and I challenge her ideas dude. She certainly doesn’t need you to “save her”….

  54. Toot Toot Ya Still Not Gonna Float permalink
    December 7, 2012 12:54 am

    Jaws, it looks like sparta just proved you wrong and TB correct.

  55. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 7, 2012 1:09 am

    “Insulting TB, kittylitter, others, or me won’t change that.”

    Ok, I should inform you of something as well, you too can very easily “scroll” to the top of this page and see who insulted whom (this can be done on any post by the way…LOL)…This is how it usually goes, I post a comment and it is attacked not on its “merits”, never. People want to attack some “third party or typos, never the argument”. Simply put, YOU AND OTHERS here have NO counter argument; if you did then where is it? I wait?

    Look, I get it…Your world view is “Imperialism, corporatism, racial demagoguery and anti-Western domination oh yes and the RICH blah, blah…” It would be convenient for you if I was a “Tea-bagger” which had nothing to do with my post or the Asylum debate but that is the modus operandi of must “strung out lefties”. For example your last 3 posts were just insults, you letting off steam. I don’t know if your super short, balding, pissed you wasted money on an education you can get with 2 hours viewing of MSNBC and listening to NPR or what nor do I care…But you haven’t posed anything resembling a counter argument dude…I got a bunch of Tea-Bag ramble, nothing more…

    “This is more of your gibberish Sparta. Want to explain it, or run?”

    LOL…ok, this is as close as you came to a rebuttal of my post but of what I am not sure…Calling it “gibberish” does not make you the wiser man and challenging me to “explain it” after declaring it gibberish makes you look like an idiot. If you don’t understand what I am saying then ask for clarification genius, not go on some tea-bag rant, personal insults etc…So if you would like to have a discussion, pick a post, respond to it and I will do the same…Going off on some tangent really just makes you look like a buffoon.

  56. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 7, 2012 1:13 am

    I got similar nonsense when I challenged, sparta, a few days ago — I’m a “teenager” with “no knowledge of the world” apparently … sound familiar?

    TB, with all due respect, you have never challenged me on anything dude. Would you like to revisit said conversation and see exactly what was said? Where was the challenge? You posted insults, nothing more…You guys are amusing if not delusional. Having arguments with yourself. Again, if you disagree with what I say, respond to it and I will do the same..They call this a discussion, ever heard of it?

  57. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 7, 2012 1:38 am

    ” declaring it gibberish makes you look like an idiot.”

    Bullshit.

    ” If you don’t understand what I am saying then ask for clarification”

    As you seem to be sensitive,
    Try proof-reading your own text before posting.
    Take some responsibility for your own errors.

  58. Toot Toot Queensland permalink
    December 7, 2012 2:11 am

    Have you ever noticed,

    that global warming denialist’s drag blog threads off topic, and when they get caught out with their bullshitting, they shriek hysterically about being called a ” denier ”

    and

    right wing crack pipes behave in a similar style and, when they get caught out with their bullshit, they shriek about being called “teabag”

    both types then return and spout similar nonsense, just like it came out of some kind of “handbook” ?

  59. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 7, 2012 5:22 am

    I just adore left wing double talk…Trying their best to have conversations that never existed in an attempt to make a point that was never remotely relevant and then declare themselves “winner”; of what I have no idea…You highlight this phenomenon so well “toot”…

    Climate change denier? Are we discussing that now because it was referenced? Oh yes “Climate Change denier” now used to describe what use to be labeled the “global warming” denier but since the warming thing hasn’t really panned out lets label it “climate change” because climate tends to do that, change and all…

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2093264/Forget-global-warming–Cycle-25-need-worry-NASA-scientists-right-Thames-freezing-again.html

    Warms, cools etc just what is causing such change is where you will find the real debate…Ok, I have a very basic question since you seem to be an authority which has been posed her before but never answered…

    If man is responsible with warming today and even the “scientists” agree it has warmed and cooled many times before in the last 4.5 billion years without the “help” of man, then why pray tell is it “us” now and not said conditions which caused such cooling and heating before?

    You see genius; this is called a conundrum one that is central to any premise around global warming being due to mankind. It is the question “real” scientists ask, not peddling circumspection in search of the almighty grant dollar….Unfortunately, not only will you not answer said question but the simple reality is YOU CAN’T…Chew on that or babble on about tea bags a bit more if you would like, medicate or whatever…Theories are meant to be “CHALLENGED” YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT DON’T YOU? I am sorry you are that “person” that clings and backs anything that “sounds” intelligent or is typo free..LOL…We call them lawyers, politicians and car salesmen for whom you are a “wet dream” . Now where were we, discussing Asylum seekers aka economic migrants or not? Try to focus…

  60. el gordo permalink
    December 7, 2012 6:19 am

    Toot toot is a fkn ratbag, while Sparta is pragmatic and intelligent.

  61. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 7, 2012 8:36 am

    “Toot toot is a fkn ratbag,”

    El gordo,

    Stop denigrating ratbags

  62. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 7, 2012 8:41 am

    If you want a fine example of another ratbag you look no further than Julia Gillard.

    First she imposes a Carbon Tax to push Electricity Prices skyward.

    Now this week she wants to appear as some sort of hero by introducing “Reforms” to reduce Electricity Prices.

    If thats not a case of the original Arsonist turning up to a house fire dressed as a Fireman I dont know what is.

  63. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 7, 2012 8:45 am

    Sparta is wily and is not part of the “ABBOTT=YAAY!” crowd, so all that is left for Toot Toot is frustrated incomprehension.

    But Toot Toot is welcome anyway.

  64. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 7, 2012 9:12 am

    “But Toot Toot is welcome anyway.”

    Yes of course…………..every Village needs one.

  65. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 7, 2012 9:25 am

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/claims-galore-of-unhealthy-activities-at-health-unions-election-20121206-2ayby.html

    Gee, the HSU seems all very nice.

    I’m sure that in all this there is a fight between good and evil, between right and wrong.

    No doubt we’ll have Thomson’s successors on the side of GOOD, and Jackson (BAD!) on the other.

  66. TB Queensland permalink
    December 7, 2012 11:16 am

    There is a difference TB which you fail to grasp; you are infamous for hit and runs…

    I’m infamous for many things but if you call irregular posts, hit and run (a bit like your own BTW) … its because I have a LIFE outside of blogs … one thing I don’t do is run (another insult?) … I may get bored with going round and round in circles of nonsense with certain posters

    Kitty’s a “big girl” and I challenge her ideas dude. She certainly doesn’t need you to “save her”…. (why “big girl’? Your sexism is showing – another insult – probably why that other mysoginist supports you too, hey, ToM)

    You’ve got that right at least … however you might see a mutual agreement – on many subjects, between KL and me, as “saving” her, I never have and I’m sure she hasn’t … and KL, certainly needs no protection from your wordy wanderings …

    I did notice misplaced pseudo support from your, “I used to be a Labor voter but now I won’t vote for them side of the blog” above … if you want an example of naive “support” just read Wally’s comments …

    Hypocrites all …

    Just saw this … Sparta is wily … … LOL! didn’t you mean Wile E?

    BEEP! BEEP! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  67. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 7, 2012 11:52 am

    “… if you want an example of naive “support” just read Wally’s comments … ”

    LOL

    Everyone who has an opinion obtuse to the Left seems to be “naive”

    In fact if ya have not worn the “uniform” you are treated are unworthy LOL

  68. December 7, 2012 12:35 pm

    Fetching popcorn…

  69. Toot Toot Washington permalink
    December 7, 2012 12:55 pm

    You’re going to need something stronger than popcorn buddy,
    to understand our peyote powered pal from Phoenix.

  70. Toot Toot Washington permalink
    December 7, 2012 1:08 pm

    Many of us here in DC live by teabag theory. It is how our voters want it. Our voters also demand we action teabag theory at every or any opportunity, so we do. You may all recall our glorious investigation our Ken Starr undertook several years ago. He managed to rightly investigate the Presidential Penis, an interns vagina, and if laundry was done. We are fully satisfied with Ken Starr’s investigation and the proper use of taxpayer revenue. It was done on budget of $40 million.

  71. TB Queensland permalink
    December 7, 2012 1:17 pm

    FMD, sreb, why do all the willie wankers always end up here? I know, I know, because they can …

    I think there’s more “self banned Rightwhing Farnhams” than so-called Lefties … 🙄

    Astounding! 😯

    … and they talk about rusted ons at CW …

  72. el gordo permalink
    December 7, 2012 1:26 pm

    Nils is rusted on to the Howard Years.

  73. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 7, 2012 1:32 pm

    Where is Neil these days ?

  74. Toot Toot Washington permalink
    December 7, 2012 1:47 pm

    Forget about China.
    We are still the worlds super-power.
    We have our military bases in many countries.
    Nobody has a military base on our soil.
    We will not be mocked.

  75. Toot Toot CIA permalink
    December 7, 2012 2:01 pm

    ” every Village needs one”
    =========================
    True. They are called ‘ Special Agents’

  76. Toot Toot CIA permalink
    December 7, 2012 2:08 pm

    ” ratbag, while Sparta is pragmatic and intelligent.”
    ======================
    Special Agent Sparta will not be mocked el gordo

  77. December 7, 2012 2:10 pm

    😯

  78. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 7, 2012 2:14 pm

    Everyone who has an opinion obtuse to the Left seems to be “naive”

    There is no obtuseness in understanding the opinion, the obtuseness inherent in the owner of said opinion is the problem.

    Kitty’s a “big girl” and I challenge her ideas dude…

    There you go again.

    Haven’t noticed much challenging, when you get any return fire or find yourself having to justify your teabaggery nonsense, you just disappear, then simply return again with another load of racist, white male superior ‘challenges’ and conspiracies as if you’ve completely forgotten you still have unanswered challenges of your own to reply to. You prefer personal put-down to genuine debate because your ‘ideas’ pretty much stink and you can’t defend ignorance, bigotry and the illogical.

    yes TB, is toiletboss on strike?

  79. el gordo permalink
    December 7, 2012 2:54 pm

    Noice speech kitty and the boss turned up for it.

  80. TB Queensland permalink
    December 7, 2012 3:22 pm

    G’day Ser Tee!

    I’m now reading book four … I see, egg, gets a mention … seems he was around a hundred years ago … on The Wall … I could see that, with this one …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    G;day KL, seems history continually repeats itself on this blog … the Farnham Klan just keeps growing … either that, or they’re asylum seekers and, sreb, a very limited border presence … 🙂

    =============================================

    Where is Neil these days ?

    He merrily plays with the CW lot … too hard for him here, mayhaps … people question his BS … and when challenged with evidence buggers off … can’t say I was w-w-w-wrong or s-s-s-s-sorry …

  81. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 8, 2012 5:01 am

    Hmm…So I guess we aren’t talking about the Asylum thing anymore? LOL
    “the obtuseness inherent in the owner of said opinion is the problem.”
    Sigh…More self righteous observations from the mountain top of “Kitty’s world”…

    “There you go again.”

    Are you really that insecure, honestly?

    “load of racist, white male superior ‘challenges’ and conspiracies as if you’ve completely forgotten you still have unanswered challenges of your own to reply to.”

    I am sorry, but is this your idea of a question or challenge? LMAO…I try not to make things personal “litter box” but you guys make this pretty difficult. If some of you only knew how ridiculous your spurious notions are…My very secure and supremely intelligent “Indian wife” for example would find most of your comments ridiculous as well having come from a country with “real” misogyny, class issues and poverty…What honestly does a modern feminist have to complain about in the West? Oh yes, the “holy grail” the right to kill her unborn which is still her protected right here but I suppose that there is even a discussion on said topic is seen as an affront to said right? You do understand for instance that I couldn’t really give two shits about some selfish person whom is irresponsible enough to find herself pregnant doing what she wants to do with her body. But when said behavior, any bad behavior is incentivized by my tax dollar, I get a bit touchy. Honestly Kitty, “white male”, racist….Like I mentioned to TB, everything on the left is seen in the context of race, gender and class with you lot…It is a ideology of guilt, envy and control which has been regurgitated to utter failure on the world stage many times before and always leads to a totalitarian version of utopia…

    Anyway….How about we stop the “name calling” and try having a discussion or not? Oh wait, you might find that a “male control” thing so whenever you wish to declare a cease fire we should elevate the conversation a bit maybe?

    (Nope, not using spell check or proofreading)

  82. el gordo permalink
    December 8, 2012 7:29 am

    Sparta my Sri Lankan business partner and her large extended family are hard on illegals, more so than me. From my perspective a large concentration camp in the desert is well over due and not just for boat people, but anyone who overstays their visa.

  83. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 8, 2012 8:33 am

    el gordo,

    LOL…Well, I am not blind to the plight of millions around the world but as I have said before, importing people as a means to cure whatever conditions (most of the time it is not a war started by the West TB, Kitty, toot) these people flee from is just stupidity…The word “asylum” has simply come to mean a ticket out of your situation for the billions who live in abject poverty. More and more it is used for economic reasons if not solely. Regardless, why we seem to think that it is the responsibility of the West to ignore the needs of their own citizenry out of some bizarre sense of loyalty to a defunct organization called the U.N; whose charters have no legal bearing which trumps the constitutions of its respective states is madness…. Anyway, yes deterrence is the best idea and nothing could say that more than withdrawing from the U.N’s outdated accords…But that will never happen as both parties continue to use said policies to further their own platforms; Australian citizens come second…

  84. TB Queensland permalink
    December 8, 2012 12:03 pm

    Mein Kampf anyone?

    … as I keep saying, history repeats itself … 1929 the Wall St Crash … 1930 beginning of The Great Depression … 1936 Hitler becomes Chancellor … 1939 beginning of WWII …

    2007 … GFC … 2013 ????

    Putin perhaps?

  85. TB Queensland permalink
    December 8, 2012 12:22 pm

    70 years ago today the USA declared war on Japan …

  86. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 8, 2012 12:59 pm

    Australia isn’t in for a recession, just slowing growth. We’re fortunate enough to be linked to the new world, not the old.

    China will continue to grow at 7%+ which is enough to sustain our resources sector, and underpin the base load of finance, engineering and some smaller manufacturing. Retail is in decline, and empty shop fronts doesn’t do a lot for confidence.

    I wouldn’t panic about our economic prospects over the next decade, it’s strong enough to withstand even Swan’s incompetence.

  87. el gordo permalink
    December 8, 2012 1:17 pm

    ‘history repeats itself …’

    Everything has changed, history cannot repeat itself.

    ToM’s assessment is essentiality correct.

  88. TeaBog of Phoenix permalink
    December 8, 2012 4:28 pm

    (Nope, not using spell check or proofreading)
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
    Our teabag/denier handbook is quite clear,
    we are not allowed to proofread.
    Only copy and paste! That’s the teabag way.
    Our goal is to fill blogs with teabag theory nonsense, which lefty cannot ignore, and waste their time trying to decipher gibberish.

  89. TeaBog of Phoenix permalink
    December 8, 2012 4:32 pm

    We will BOG them down!

  90. TeaBag of Phoenix permalink
    December 8, 2012 4:42 pm

    We will not discuss the effect on business that relied on SOBS either,
    (south of border slaves) now those business’s are denied cheap labor because of the ‘border fence’.

  91. TeaGun of Phoenix permalink
    December 8, 2012 4:50 pm

    Our weapons industry has the absolute right to make a profit, including the hand-gun and small-arms makers.

    Who says a few ‘home-boys’ shooting themselves or others count?

  92. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 8, 2012 5:54 pm

    I’m sure TeaBag has something to say… and it will be really interesting when they figure out what it is.

  93. December 8, 2012 9:14 pm

    “We’re fortunate enough to be linked to the new world, not the old.”

    Oh, so you do support the NBN now after all…

    Glad you finally came to your senses… 🙂

    Now, if only someone could explain it to Tony “I’m not a tech-head” Abbott….

  94. TeaTowel of Boltsville permalink
    December 8, 2012 10:33 pm

    The Tony Abbott I know will never support the nbn reb.
    We can only sit back and enjoy ‘ irony ‘ of his minions spouting their teabag theory on the internet!

  95. TeaTowel of Boltsville permalink
    December 8, 2012 10:40 pm

    The Tony Abbott I know will always prefer an efficient, on-budget ‘ pony express ‘ service over the technically complicated and expensive nbn internet thing.

  96. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 8, 2012 11:03 pm

    That’s the idea Tea Pot – AbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbott!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Great point!

  97. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 9, 2012 5:42 am

    “Our goal is to fill blogs with teabag theory nonsense, which lefty cannot ignore, and waste their time trying to decipher gibberish”

    I suppose this is another example of a question or “challenge” posed by our resident schizophrenic? Exactly where the question is eludes me…LOL. This isn’t gibberish though…nope…hilarious…

    “We will not discuss the effect on business that relied on SOBS either”

    Huh? Is this a question? Perhaps we agree because some of my “gibberish” has always entailed the “big business” morons hand in all this? Guess you missed that dude rambling on about “tea party” jackboots….

    “Our weapons industry”

    Yes it is the “handgun” industry that makes Mexico’s incompetent governance such a disaster that over a million of its citizens flee to the north even if they set on some of the largest deposits of natural resources available…Any other “challenges”…Seriously, this is entertaining…Maybe we can pin this phenomena on European Imperialism some 100 years ago?

  98. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 9, 2012 1:43 pm

    Maybe we can pin this phenomena on European Imperialism some 100 years ago?

    We can pin it on US style capitalism, the idea that everyone should have the dream of great wealth if you simply work hard very hard. Only trouble is there is also an idea that hardworking people should not pay tax to support the millions that don’t get to be part of the great american dream. They, of course must be the lazy, undeserving and sluttish ones.

    Enormous profits being made by large corporations, CEO’s and the wealthy and the teabaggers can’t see that their anger and resentment should be directed at the big end of town, those who aren’t paying their share because of tax cuts and incentives.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/business/economy/a-tax-code-of-politics-not-practicality.html?ref=eduardoporter

    …Our byzantine tax code is built upon a longstanding political deal: Democrats wanted a tax scale with higher rates for richer Americans to finance social programs aimed at the poor and the middle class. Republicans countered by pushing for tax exceptions, exclusions and deductions that shielded the incomes of the rich from the taxman and reduced government revenue.

    This compromise has left us with a loophole-riddled code that isn’t very good at raising money…

    …Compared to other developed countries, the United States doesn’t collect much tax at all. Tax revenue at all levels of government adds up to less than 25 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product, putting us behind every other rich country and even some poor ones. Among the 34 nations in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, only Mexico and Chile collect less in taxes. The average across the O.E.C.D. is 9 percentage points higher.

  99. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 9, 2012 2:10 pm

    What honestly does a modern feminist have to complain about in the West?</i.

    Just because women of the west have it better than those more oppressed in other countries, does not negate the male domination in all institutions of influence and power in western society still. Another illogical 'look over there' argument.

    Honestly Kitty, “white male”, racist….Like I mentioned to TB, everything on the left is seen in the context of race, gender and class with you lot…

    Maybe because it is.

    Teabaggers just can’t see that race, gender and class are used as political tools to divide the country and profit the wealthy, these ‘useful idiots’ will even vote against their own best interests!

    The Great American Tax Debate:

    …Economists and other social scientists suggest that the uniquely American discomfort with taxation may be a permanent feature of our society, one that holds in good and bad economies.

    Some argue that the nation’s racial, ethnic and cultural mix undercuts support for taxes among whites, who believe government spending is a tool to transfer their hard-earned dollars to minorities who are different from them.

    Others have suggested that what differentiates Americans is a belief in the fairness of the economic system — which allows us to accept income inequality as the result of an economy that showers its largess on the most talented, hard-working and productive citizens…

    In other words, racism, bigotry and ignorance.

    You do understand for instance that I couldn’t really give two shits about some selfish person whom is irresponsible enough to find herself pregnant doing what she wants to do with her body…

    Say again, who’s the selfish one?

    Spare us from the religious, the moralisers and the hypocrites 😆

  100. Toot Toot Washington permalink
    December 9, 2012 2:38 pm

    In DC, we are fully owned and operated by the corporations and their lobbyists. They also own and operate other governments as well. Our corporations under the guidance of Karl Rove and the Koch brothers demand we retain our Tax Loopholes. This is why we have Tax Havens like Monarco and Lechtenstein, the rich can afford the setup costs, the working class cannot. We must also retain our (Swiss) secret bank accounts.

  101. Toot Toot Canberra permalink
    December 9, 2012 2:43 pm

    We know who to obey. We know who to follow. We know who owns us.

  102. Toot Toot Washington permalink
    December 9, 2012 3:00 pm

    To understand DC, you first need to understand democracy. So called democracy is about setting limitations on the under-class, setting privileges for the upper-class, and giving everybody the chance to agree on it at the ballot-box. Too bad if the public can’t hear the truth over the racket of the Lobbyists.

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    December 9, 2012 4:23 pm

    (Note: For American citizens … the right wing of politics in the UK {ie Republicans in the USA} are often referred to as Conservatives {there is a Conservative Party in the UK} … it is also a term used in Australia when discussing the Liberal Party {there is also a Liberal Party in the UK} … the USA Democrats have similar political and social philosophies as the Labour Party in the UK and the Labor Party in Australia …) Whew!

  104. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 9, 2012 4:35 pm

    So called democracy is about setting limitations on the under-class, setting privileges for the upper-class, and giving everybody the chance to agree on it at the ballot-box.

    Which is why the waters have to be muddied with racism, gender and class warfare, if the people knew what was being done in their name, conservatives could never win an election [and much more would be expected from progressive govts].

  105. el gordo permalink
    December 9, 2012 5:27 pm

    Racism and gender bias are natural human traits, class warfare is a meme.

  106. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 9, 2012 6:05 pm

    ” Racism and gender bias are natural human traits”
    ==================
    Who says that el gordo?

  107. el gordo permalink
    December 9, 2012 6:11 pm

    I said it.

  108. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 9, 2012 6:12 pm

    ” class warfare is a meme “
    ===================
    Bullshit. The Tax system that gives one group of citizens favorable treatment over other groups of citizens proves most countries have classes, and they favor the rich.

  109. el gordo permalink
    December 9, 2012 6:21 pm

    Yeah well, maybe, the boss or TB would be more suited to answer your queries on that.

    On the other matter… it has been scientifically proven (guffaw) that monkeys are racist, so it stands to reason that glorified apes are also.

  110. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 9, 2012 6:21 pm

    ” I said it ”
    ======================
    That wasn’t very smart. You need better sources.

  111. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 9, 2012 6:31 pm

    “monkeys are racist, so it stands to reason that glorified apes are also.”
    ======================
    So how do the racist monkeys feel about their females?

  112. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 9, 2012 6:33 pm

    Racism and gender bias are natural human traits, class warfare is a meme.

    Natural or socialisation? Potential vs actual development?

    Luckily with education, enlightenment and humanity, we [some of us anyway] can evolve past the chimpanzee thinking to rise above base instincts.

    If you think that racism and gender bias are natural human traits then you must [if you are to remain logical] think class warfare is too, since jealousy, envy, greed and avarice are natural human emotions.

    Reasoning requires intelligence and education.

  113. TB Queensland permalink
    December 9, 2012 6:45 pm

    Yeah well, maybe, the boss or TB would be more suited to answer your queries on that.

    Answer the question, Wabbit!

    On the other matter… it has been scientifically proven (guffaw) that monkeys are racist, so it stands to reason that glorified apes are also.

    “guffaw” … meaning? and then … “so it stands to reason” … WTF are you saying, egg?

    You flip, flop like a fkn pancake … and support the shit that ToM and James Farnham prattle on about … weak as piss!

  114. TB Queensland permalink
    December 9, 2012 6:46 pm

    Reasoning requires intelligence and education.

    Platinum!

  115. TB Queensland permalink
    December 9, 2012 6:54 pm

    Reasoning requires intelligence and education.

    … and enhanced with personal and acknowledged societal experience … (ie I’ve been poor in a material sense and rich in a personal sense, in life, I’m comfortable {I know others struggle as I did} … I’m heterosexual, male and white … but I try to understand the frustration of women, coloured and gay people who have/are still seen as a threat … I can but try …)

  116. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 9, 2012 7:24 pm

    … I’m heterosexual, male and white … but I try to understand the frustration of women, coloured and gay people who have/are still seen as a threat… I can but try …

    That is higher order thinking, all that’s needed to change the world!

  117. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 9, 2012 7:41 pm

    ‘ boss or TB would be more suited to answer’
    =========================
    That is an outstanding admission el’gordo. You want ‘others’ to answer for you on a topic ‘you’ raised. Do you do this on the ‘talkabout’ thread?

  118. el gordo permalink
    December 9, 2012 7:57 pm

    ‘ boss or TB would be more suited to answer’

    Its not my portfolio, I only studied Marx as an undegrad and came to the conclusion that the dictatorship of the proletariat was not what Marx had in mind…class struggles and all that.

    In the 21st century a revolution may come about naturally, don’t know.

  119. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 9, 2012 8:11 pm

    The Tony Abbott I know
    will always answer difficult questions with
    I’m not a tech-head, and,
    ” Its not my portfolio “

  120. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 9, 2012 8:31 pm

    The Wayne Swan I know 
will always answer difficult questions with
 ”I’m not a tech-head”, and,
 ”abbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottottabbottabbottott “

    Then finish it off with “The Leader of the Opposition should talk about policies”

  121. el gordo permalink
    December 9, 2012 9:01 pm

    ‘WTF are you saying, egg?’

    I have lost faith with the high priests of science, just because one study says it…doesn’t mean its true.

  122. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 9, 2012 9:09 pm

    ” I have lost faith with the high priests of science”
    ======================
    But not the shock jocks right?

  123. el gordo permalink
    December 9, 2012 9:15 pm

    I voted for joolya….

  124. TeaTowel of Boltsville permalink
    December 9, 2012 9:19 pm

    The Tony Abbott I know
    will have to watch Wayne Swan from the opposition benches in 2014, 2015 and 2016.

  125. TeaTowel of Boltsville permalink
    December 9, 2012 9:41 pm

    The Tony Abbott I know
    will start to slide in the polls as preferred PM when Parliament returns in Feb 2013. The election year. The slide will be continual to the election.

  126. TeaTowel of Boltsville permalink
    December 9, 2012 9:44 pm

    The Tony Abbott I know
    will enjoy minor spikes in popularity during 2013. These spikes will be short lived.

  127. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 9, 2012 10:25 pm

    ‘ I voted for joolya ‘
    ================
    No you didn’t.
    This is teabag basics.
    Claim you are ‘independent’ or ‘left’,
    then spout teabag nonsense.

  128. December 10, 2012 2:23 am

    I love the new teabag slamming theme underway here.

    😆

  129. el gordo permalink
    December 10, 2012 8:14 am

    ‘No you didn’t.’

    Are you callin’ me a liar?

  130. TB Queensland permalink
    December 10, 2012 10:03 am

    ahhh Ser Tee … @2:23! Hate that graveyard shift …!

    I’m about to find out who takes the Sandstone Seat at Old Wyk … (just a bunch of vikings really … chuckle … ’tis cleverly cloaked tho’)

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Are you callin’ me a liar?

    Whooooo …

  131. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 10, 2012 1:16 pm

    Asylum seekers – Merry Christmas!

    Christmas Day Activities!

    *Get up
    *Continue hunger strike
    *Huddle in tent
    *Search for some shade outside
    *Continue hunger strike
    *Talk to another asylum seeker
    *Get some medical attention

    The Festive Season!

  132. Tea_Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 10, 2012 4:10 pm

    ” Are you callin’ me a liar? “
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Are you remaining ‘ fact free ‘?

  133. TeaCup of Boltsville permalink
    December 10, 2012 4:26 pm

    Teabag Freakers — Happy Election!

    Election Day Activities!

    *Get up
    *Continue teabag fight
    *Huddle in prayer
    *Search for some propaganda
    *Continue policy drought
    *Talk to another teabag
    *Get some media attention

    The Election Season!

  134. el gordo permalink
    December 10, 2012 5:32 pm

    ‘Are you remaining ‘ fact free ‘?’

    Why would I lie about voting for joolya?

    I was rusted on.

  135. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 10, 2012 5:46 pm

    ‘ I was rusted on.’
    ****************************
    Rusted on to what?

  136. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 10, 2012 5:50 pm

    ‘ Are you callin’ me a liar? ‘
    ************************************
    Does the Egg-Shell fit?

  137. el gordo permalink
    December 10, 2012 5:57 pm

    Rusted on to a belief system.

  138. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 10, 2012 6:26 pm

    The Tony Abbott I know
    follows denier faith and teabag theory because he is
    ‘ Rusted on to a belief system ‘

  139. TB Queensland permalink
    December 10, 2012 7:44 pm

    BIG SARC ALERT!

    Asylum seekers – Merry Christmas!

    Wrong again, ToM, Muslims don’t celebrate the birth of whatsisname … Santa Clause? David Jones? Mr Myer?

  140. TB Queensland permalink
    December 10, 2012 7:46 pm

    I was rusted on.

    And certain bits have obviously corroded … lets start at the very top and work down … shall we? 🙄

  141. TB Queensland permalink
    December 10, 2012 7:53 pm

    G’day KL!

    Just saw this …

    That is higher order thinking, all that’s needed to change the world!

    Funny you were the only one to comment though** 😉 … thanks for compliment (again) … keep up the good work!

    ** Takes one to recognise one 😛

  142. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 10, 2012 8:15 pm

    Muslims don’t celebrate the birth of whatsisname … Santa Clause? David Jones? Mr Myer?

    Really TB? You’ve taught me something again today!

    I think the point is that we wish them SEASONS GREETINGS!, and hope they are able to enjoy a real hearty meal, and a good red.

  143. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 12, 2012 3:15 am

    “Takes one to recognise one”

    Ah….Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside…Kitty with TB’s balls in a jar, still seeking approval…LOL. Oh, was that a racist or misogynistic comment; I can’t remember but I am sure “Litter Box” will let me know…LMAO…

    Psst…TB, you misspelled a word above; should we chalk it up to “whatever” or question your intelligence? LOL

    I am “ok” with “whatever”….That is the advantage of not being anal retentive…

  144. Toot Toot Sparta permalink
    December 12, 2012 3:50 am

    Thanks for that.
    You just showed us all how unworthy a teabag you are.
    You came here with no story, point, argument or reason.
    Kitty and TB didn’t deserve that shit you just put on them.

  145. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 12, 2012 5:39 am

    Kitty and TB give as much as they take dear twattle…I could make the same claim on many different occasions but alas what is the point…

  146. el gordo permalink
    December 12, 2012 6:49 am

    ‘You came here with no story, point, argument or reason.’

    Talking about yerself ratbag.

  147. Tea Egg of Global Cooling permalink
    December 12, 2012 1:21 pm

    Talking about yerself ratbag.
    **********************************
    Fascinating el’gordo. You don’t normally engage in that level of teabag hatred ‘yerself’, but then endorse it fully when somebody else does it. This does seem to indicate you’re a bit spineless and think little of Kitty and TB.

  148. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 14, 2012 11:53 pm

    Tea Twattle,

    Honestly, the victim card falls a bit on deaf ears after reading your posts…You idles are no exception either with plenty of foul things to say about others and oddly, you have never once said a word? Hmm, guess the same could be said of you…..Give the hypocritical, sanctimonious crap a rest, seriously…

  149. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 14, 2012 11:55 pm

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/un-refugee-agency-condemns-nauru-detention-centre/story-fn9hm1gu-1226536984103

    “Labor’s no-advantage principle – which could see asylum-seekers detained for up to five years so they do not gain an advantage over people who do not board boats – is inappropriate and inconsistent with the UN Refugee Convention, it says.”

    When are the Australian government and people going to tell the UN to go get stuffed! I am sick of this incompetent body making demands in defiance of others national sovereignty while ignoring the realities of the “boat people” or shall I say economic migrant. What no mention of the “country” shopping? Apparently “poverty” has made the list of what makes a refugee these days…Like most of the Asylum/open borders crowd they simply have no solutions for the dire consequences that plague the rest of the world so hell, lets import it…Make these issues somebody else’s….

  150. el gordo permalink
    December 15, 2012 6:51 am

    What Sparta says is essentially true, the UN needs its wings clipped on a whole range of issues otherwise the organisation will continue to lose credibility.

  151. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 15, 2012 12:13 pm

    No Sparta, people are entitled to claim asylum and while ever we are signatories to the UNHCR we have an obligations to meet this standard.

    If the government chooses to punish innocent people in order to send some signal, then it should also advise the UN that it will no longer meet its obligations. The government seeks to have it every possible way on this issue, and deserves to be condemned for its current policy as well as all the previous poll driven variations.

    There are a range of policy options available that should be applied to dissuade people smuggling before lurching to “punish the innocent”

  152. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2012 12:21 pm

    Psst…TB, you misspelled a word above; should we chalk it up to “whatever” or question your intelligence? LOL

    Perhaps you should “enlighten” me … as to the word you refer to … enhance my edification …

    Look up “lucid” …

  153. Yucky Bug permalink
    December 15, 2012 5:29 pm

    Look up “lucid” …

    “I am sick….”

  154. December 15, 2012 6:12 pm

    Proud to be a cold AZhole.

  155. December 15, 2012 6:14 pm

    Anti-UN knicker pissers, chock full of US exceptionalism & insular ignorance.

  156. el gordo permalink
    December 15, 2012 6:40 pm

    Thanks for the insight boss, clipping the wings of the organisation would be prudent …to avoid the rise of nationalism in these economically unhealthy times. History repeats itself unless we learn from past mistakes.

    The IPCC needs to be cut loose and economic asylum should be reanalysed.

  157. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2012 7:16 pm

    … to avoid the rise of nationalism in these economically unhealthy times

    Then you would be aware of the “nationalism” contained in, SoP’s, posts, egg …

  158. el gordo permalink
    December 15, 2012 7:40 pm

    Sparta is entitled to his opinion, the US is different to us. I find him informative.

  159. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2012 7:48 pm

    Sparta is entitled to his opinion

    I didn’t say otherwise, (so am I BTW), but his posts are nationalist, racist and sexist … just ’cause his wife accepts it, (or so he says) doesn’t mean I have to …

    Australia is different to the US … that’s why I post here … not there …

    And because he keeps bringing my name up in his little rants, I find him to be an offensive Fuckwit™ …

    (Did you say business was bad, egg?)

  160. el gordo permalink
    December 15, 2012 8:19 pm

    Yeah, all around town the recession bites. My son was retrenched from his job in Sydney and has come home…and the medicos say my dad is unable to take care of himself so I’ve got him on the bottom floor.

    Haven’t taken wages for a month and the pension is only $100 a week, so everyone is running on empty. The deflationary spiral is interesting to observe up close.

  161. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2012 8:49 pm

    I find him informative

    … maybe your listening to the wrong people … just saying’

  162. el gordo permalink
    December 15, 2012 9:10 pm

    ‘maybe your listening to the wrong people’

    I have been left wing Labor all my life, so my judgement on this is well considered.

    Sparta is trying to warn us on the issue of asylum seekers, but his perspective is different to ours. My view, as you well know, is to build a leisure centre at Ord and accept economic refugees.

    If they are foolish enough to risk their lives to get here, they will probably become good Australians and deserve a chance.

    In a bipartisan approach we should increase the immigration numbers so that those already on the list are not disadvantaged by illegal entries.

  163. December 15, 2012 9:43 pm

    “I think the point is that we wish them SEASONS GREETINGS!, and hope they are able to enjoy a real hearty meal, and a good red.”

    Muslims don’t drink Tom.

    Would you like to send them some pork crackling for your next trick….? 😉

  164. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2012 9:48 pm

    LOL! (or boom, boom!)

    That’s three things you’ve learned, ToM … keep them dumb posts cummin’ … 😛

  165. TB Queensland permalink
    December 15, 2012 9:50 pm

    Sparta is trying to warn us on the issue of asylum seekers, but his perspective is different to ours

    You’re pussy-footing again, egg, SoPs, “perspective” is daibolically opposed to your stated position … but you won’t call him out on it … its not hard – he’s WRONG … go on try it … 🙄

  166. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 16, 2012 12:09 am

    ” Muslims don’t drink Tom.

    Heavens! We learn so much here!

    So what’s the point of eating meat?

  167. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 16, 2012 7:47 am

    “I didn’t say otherwise, (so am I BTW), but his posts are nationalist, racist and sexist”

    Heheheheh…I think we could say I am patriotic there TB, not much different from yourself in terms of pride of country. However, calling one a racist doesn’t make it so I am afraid or a sexist. Labeling is how some try to “understand” what they cannot so I don’t fault you for that and I am rather brazen in my use of vocabulary because it is simply the “American Way”. I am a “culturist” TB, the fact you cannot separate ethnic criticisms from cultural is not surprising. You are not much of a “higher order thinker”.

    “I regards to the UN, I see many here see it as some sort of “higher authority” but why I will never know. With the brazen corruption of your own officials why bestow any special authority or wisdom to a “world body” made up of the same ilk who have repeatedly shown themselves to be even more corruptible. They get to dictate from “NYC” oddly enough. Now if it were the US making such demands on Australia, would you be such a supporter? I hardly doubt it…LOL

    Asylum seekers are not the problem per say, it is the antiquated policies of the UN colliding with a modern world. I simply ask, “To what end” do these policies serve? What ultimately is achieved? I think we all know NOTHING in the long term, NOTHING.

  168. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 16, 2012 8:21 am

    Hey, what do you know, I am agreement with this report on many instances but for a few. Clearly it was formulated by “racists”….

    There are no practical obstacles to withdrawing from the Convention. Article 44 (2) states that any contracting state can denounce or withdraw, with one year’s notice. Such a move would be unprecedented-no state has ever withdrawn. The threat of instant international pariah status is however less compelling at a time when the asylum system is widely seen as ‘broke’. Australia’s credentials on refugees and managed migration are unsurpassed, and it has played above its demographic weight in international forums on migration and refugee issues. Australia could stay within EXCOM. In theory, withdrawal from the Convention would free up a considerable amount of money which could be redirected to countries of first asylum. It would also enable Australia to recommit to a sizeable offshore refugee resettlement program. While Australia is obviously not a large enough player to lead the world, it could thus provide an impetus for reform.

    Withdrawal might not however provide an immediate practical solution. Asylum from political persecution and the principle of non-refoulement have become part of international customary law; the government and the judiciary would still have to process and deal with claims. As well, Australia is party to other treaties which prevent people being sent back into situations of danger, or gross violation of their civil rights, namely the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and the Convention Against Torture and Other Degrading and Inhuman Treatment (CAT).

    Withdrawal from the Refugee Convention would however enable Australia to develop and regularise, on its own terms, more transparent and understandable criteria and provisions for dealing with on-shore asylum seekers.

    http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp0001/01RP05

  169. el gordo permalink
    December 16, 2012 8:59 am

    ‘its not hard – he’s WRONG … go on try it … ‘

    Nup….

  170. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2012 9:04 am

    😯 🙄

  171. el gordo permalink
    December 16, 2012 10:12 am

    Withdrawal from the Refugee Convention is not wise, throwing out the baby with the bathwater, but we need to rethink the whole process and differentiate between real refugees escaping persecution and those who just want a better life.

  172. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 16, 2012 2:09 pm

    ” differentiate between real refugees escaping persecution and those who just want a better life.”

    That’s called the screening process, and it happens to result in most being found to be genuine.

    Thus far there aren’t so many arriving here that it is disrupting our economy or our ability of accommodate them or our existing culture. In fact there is no logical reason that we are trying to shun them.

    The only reason is redneck appeasement, and people will have to forgive me if I’m not persuaded that this is a particularly good reason.

  173. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2012 3:54 pm

    … and people will have to forgive me if I’m not persuaded …

    Every day and in every way, ToM, peace be with thee … in this time of goodwill and peace on Earth*

    * SA

  174. el gordo permalink
    December 16, 2012 6:58 pm

    ‘That’s called the screening process, and it happens to result in most being found to be genuine.’

    I don’t dispute that ToM, certainly its the view of Amnesty International, but its worth further investigation.

  175. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2012 7:11 pm

    … but its worth further investigation.

    In what way?

  176. el gordo permalink
    December 16, 2012 7:41 pm

    Have a look at what the right wingnuts are saying.

  177. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2012 7:51 pm

    Have a look at what the right wingnuts are saying.

    I don’t care what the RWNJ are saying I’m asking you … I want to hear your “solution”, not Liberal HQ … that’s all we get here … at least those of us with a “left leaning” are free to express opinions and don’t rely on the blurbs from the LibNit faceless men … 🙄

  178. el gordo permalink
    December 16, 2012 8:00 pm

    You want to hear my solution …. Ord Leisure Centre, where UK residents overstaying their visa may find themselves rubbing shoulders with Tamil Tigers.

    Found this at a government website…

    ‘Until recently, the vast majority of asylum seekers applying for protection in Australia have arrived originally by air with a valid visa and then applied for asylum at a later date while living in the community.

    ‘Historically, boat arrivals only made up a small proportion of asylum applicants— estimates vary, but it is likely that between 96 and 99 percent of asylum applicants arrived by air.

    ‘More recently the proportions of Irregular Maritime Arrival (IMA) and non‐IMA (that is air arrival) asylum seekers have shifted due to the increase in boat arrivals. However, boat arrivals still comprise less than half of Australia’s onshore asylum seekers.’

  179. Eeven Tide permalink
    December 16, 2012 9:25 pm

    I strongly suspect el gordo that you have never been to the Ord or its surrounds. In other words you are living in a dream world. Imagine trying to fence the Ord.

    But yes, the vast majority of ‘illegals’ in Australia as opposed to those claiming refugee status arrived in Australia with valid visas.

    The majority of ‘over stayers’ on average have been here for more than 10 years. And guess what the sky hasn’t fallen. The refugee ‘problem’ and the ‘illegal’ problem is just bullshit and the fact that both sides of mainstream politics construct it in roughly the same way is a disgrace.

  180. el gordo permalink
    December 16, 2012 10:33 pm

    ‘Imagine trying to fence the Ord.’

    No need for fences.

  181. el gordo permalink
    December 17, 2012 7:15 am

    Illegal economic migrants deserve a stint at Ord under the Chinese yoke.

    ‘A FOURFOLD increase in people-smuggler networks in Sri Lanka is driving the surge of boats that threatens to overwhelm Australia’s border protection regime.

    ‘Australian authorities have identified about 12 major people-smugglers operating in Sri Lanka – up from three a year ago.’

    Stewart and Maley in the Oz

  182. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2012 11:36 am

    I’m still “struggling” with the Australian Government’s concept of giving Sri Lanka (a rather despotic regime) $34 million for “education in primary schools” … the cynic in me says that most will end up in patrol boats not books …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Found this at a government website…

    How long have you been reading here? 🙄

  183. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 17, 2012 12:05 pm

    “Muslims don’t drink Tom.”

    That’s like saying Catholics don’t use condoms.

    There are plenty of Muslims who drink. They just dont do it outside their home or the homes of like minded friends.

  184. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2012 12:07 pm

    Gosh!

  185. TB Queensland permalink
    December 17, 2012 12:09 pm

    I repeat (ad nausem) some folk just don’t get irony, satire, sarcasm and plain old humour … money seems to make them giggle and slobber though …*

    *SA (FMD!)

  186. el gordo permalink
    December 17, 2012 12:16 pm

    Being ironically deficient is not a crime, I was born this way.

  187. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 17, 2012 12:31 pm

    “I repeat (ad nausem) some folk just don’t get irony, satire, sarcasm and plain old humour ”

    They do when its done well !

    LOL

  188. el gordo permalink
    December 17, 2012 9:53 pm

    ‘ASYLUM-seeker panel chairman Angus Houston has endorsed the sending home of hundreds of Sri Lankan boat people identified in screening interviews as economic migrants.

    ‘More than 800 Sri Lankans have been deported in recent months under the so-called virtual tow-backs policy, prompting howls of protest from refugee activists.’

    Ben Packham in the Oz

  189. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 18, 2012 12:16 am

    “prompting howls of protest from refugee activists.”

    Why one may ask? Because they were not given access to a “activist lawyer” who might have been better able to instruct them on how to defraud the Australian Government? What to say and how to say it? Again, the only standard by many in the “open borders” crowd is “show up”…

  190. el gordo permalink
    December 18, 2012 7:38 am

    Thailand has a similar problem to the US.

    ‘There are an estimated 2.5 million migrant workers in Thailand. About 80 percent of them are from Burma and because of costs, corruption and porous borders, most are undocumented.

    ‘They work in factories, orchards, fishing and construction, but their illegal status leaves them vulnerable to abuse by unscrupulous employers, corrupt police and officials.’

  191. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 18, 2012 8:42 am

    “They work in factories, orchards, fishing and construction, but their illegal status leaves them vulnerable to abuse by unscrupulous employers, corrupt police and officials”

    Its the same here…Illegals are treated like quasi slave labor, exploited by big business and politicians alike….

  192. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 18, 2012 11:54 am

    “The majority of ‘over stayers’ on average have been here for more than 10 years.”

    Even Tide really should head back to their much maligned TAFE College themselves it would seem. Though I doubt he’d pass the mathematics entry level exam.

    Or perhaps they are looking for a “political backdoor” escape by not specifying “overall” or “absolute”……………Hang on……….silly me assuming he’d even know the difference

    “……….MORE than half of the overstayers have called Australia home for five or more years. ABOUT 20,000 have lived here a decade or more.”

    Mmmm………….20,000 out of 58,000 is not an absolute majority

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/illegal-immigrants-arrive-by-plane/story-e6frea6u-1226200568050

  193. el gordo permalink
    December 18, 2012 8:10 pm

    ‘THE Gillard government is now the third largest recipient of its own foreign aid program, opposition foreign affairs spokeswoman Julie Bishop says.

    ‘Speaking after the decision by Foreign Minister Bob Carr to divert $375 million from the aid program to fund the cost of asylum-seekers being processed domestically, Ms Bishop said it showed Labor’s budget was in crisis.’

    Lanai Vasek in the Oz

  194. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 18, 2012 8:53 pm

    “THE Gillard government is now the third largest recipient of its own foreign aid program, opposition foreign affairs spokeswoman Julie Bishop says.”

    I heard on the radio that to get a place on the UN we had to give more foreign aid. Some of that foreign aid we are now giving to ourselves. The allegation on the radio is that the govt has lied to the UN.

  195. el gordo permalink
    December 18, 2012 8:56 pm

    Realpolitik

  196. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 18, 2012 9:46 pm

    Looks like it is true. Labor lied about increasing foreign aid. But I guess it is just a white lie. We are giving $375M to ourselves. Serves the countries right who voted for us for trusting Gillard.

    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/labor-mp-slams-foreign-aid-cut-20121217-2bjd1.html

    “Acting Opposition Leader Julie Bishop said that the aid cut sent a very bad message at the start of Australia’s two year stint on the UN Security Council. Ms Bishop said it was key plank of Australia’s pitch that it would increase aid spending to 0.5 per cent of gross national income.

    “They have mislead countries into voting for them,” Ms Bishop told reporters in Melbourne on Tuesday.”

  197. The Professor of Palm Beach permalink
    December 18, 2012 10:17 pm

    Its probably vengeance for the failed World Cup bid such is the disgrace of this government.

    No sign of the late night Left wing insect intellect yet I see.

  198. The Professor of Palm Beach permalink
    December 18, 2012 10:22 pm

    How much of the $375m will go to David Manne and his gang of lawyers ?

  199. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 18, 2012 11:12 pm

    Yes, isn’t it just great to see the government diverting our cash from wasteful foreign aid to our domestic priorities??!!

    This is a government with such a clear sense of direction.

    I feel so proud of their financial priorities.

    OI!

  200. Even Tide permalink
    December 18, 2012 11:38 pm

    Dear oh dear Wally. I suspect you are trying hard but you have no command of the language or at least as to how it’s used in educated circles. Here’s a few examples:

    Even Tide really should head back to their ..

    ‘Their’ is plural Wally. Perhaps ‘Even Tide is a ‘collective?. Do you really believe that?. But wait:

    doubt he’d

    No doubt Wally even you will recognise that I can’t be both ‘singular’ and ‘plural’. But maybe not. LOL.

    Then the intellectual confusion continues:

    they are looking

    Back to the ‘plural’. LOL. But wait, another flash of brillance.

    assuming he’d

    Back to the singular.

    Then this piece of brilliance.

    20,000 out of 58,000 is not an absolute majority

    Dear oh dear. Who ever claimed it was? Not only a problem with basic grammar, but basic mathemeatics as well.

    Think it’s time you stayed off the piss Wally

    A “professor”. Talk about an over achiever. Luck to get a temporary tutor’s job in a AFE.

  201. reb of Penang permalink
    December 19, 2012 12:00 am

    How very dare you Even Tide!!!

    The “professor’s” an accountant I’ll have you know…

  202. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    December 19, 2012 1:19 am

    It is very amusing to see the SAME arguments starting to be trotted out by the Australian press as we have here. Since when is it even a logical stance to mention how long a “illegal” immigrant has broken law as having anything to do with “why” they should be allowed to stay? If it isn’t happening already these illegals will start having children as well and then they will be making arguments “about the children” and how cruel it would be to deport them now. “Australia is all they have ever known” they will say. First and foremost they are illegal, how long they manage to avoid the law is irrelevant. Either we are nations of laws or we are not…

    I think more than anything it is this disrespect of the law on the part of the Illegal and his/her mouthpiece (the open borders crowd) that drives me crazy…It makes a mockery of everything and undermines all. I told you, cheap labor (Liberals) and easy votes (Labor)…..Old news here…

  203. el gordo permalink
    December 19, 2012 8:11 am

    ‘TAXPAYERS face a quadrupling of the cost of managing boat arrivals to almost $5 billion next year if warnings from the government’s independent panel eventuate.

    ‘The looming blowout comes as World Vision claimed 200,000 people could die because of Labor’s decision to divert hundreds of millions of dollars from foreign aid to cover asylum seeker blowouts at home. Each one of the 30,000 possible new arrivals next year, flagged by the Houston Panel this week, would cost Labor’s battered budget an estimated $165,000.

    ‘Based on last financial year’s $1.3 billion bill for specific offshore asylum seeker management for 8300 new arrivals, 30,000 arrivals could cost up to $4.9 billion.’

    The Daily Telegraph

  204. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 19, 2012 8:41 am

    “……….Not only a problem with basic grammar, but basic mathemeatics as well.”

    LOL

    Too pissed to do a spellcheck N5 ?

    Or just too wrapped up in your own pedantic never offer an opinion world.

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