Rostrum!

FWA will investigate anyone but their own, they can also refuse to appear before a parliamentary inquiry, the only people who are empowered to question any of their actions.

#auspol #TruckwitTony FROM CRIKEY.. #QUESTIONSTONYSHOULDANSWER http://pic.twitter.com/L0ALQWcT
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And this is the man who accused Bernie Banton of pulling a publicity stunt. Truly a #TruckWitTony #auspol

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now trying embed src kitty.

“observe the pants wetting outrage of the Left ”
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Really Means,
“observe the pants wetting outrage of the NON-teabags ”
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as the rest of us are also shitted of with the tricks and stunts from abbott, who is after all, the ALTERNATIVE Govt.

Offering up these continual teabagging stunts does not replace,
1. vision and
2. direction for the nation.
3. Policy that is
4. explained clearly

“Nation Building” should involve things like installing ceiling insulation, then removing it. Or building “mini amphitheatres” for Australia’s most expensive private schools.

Or having broadband internet that is 6 times the next most expensive in the world.

Let’s build Our nation!

Ibogaine might help those with gambling addiction?

This is for Nils who lurks at the kaf…

“It’s also why the future of our country is so closely intertwined with that of China and its neighbours. One of the reasons we dodged the bullet of the global financial crisis was our enormous resource trade, particularly with China. The other reason was, of course, the excellent fiscal condition in which the Coalition left the Australian economy in 2007.

“By the year 2030, most of the middle-class people in the world will live in the Asia-Pacific region. This is an historic trend and it’s the greatest shift in the locus of economic power since the Industrial Revolution.”

John Howard at the Hasluck Lecture

The Tony Abbott I know supports handouts like
building “mini amphitheatres”
for Australia’s most expensive private schools

Tony Abbott will engage in nation building, because China will help him. As Johnny Howard said…

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Congrats reb on ‘the cure’.

And I was serious when I said ‘glad you haven’t lost your sense of humour’.

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Important news break… our star is misbehaving as it approaches solar max, with barely a spot its looking like solar min. This is not good for the warminista.

He’s helped raise more money for women’s causes via things like the Pollie Pedal Charity than our disgusting PM…

Penance?

He’s gotta arrange a charity or something so he can justify his taxpayer funded exercise regime and shirking when he should be working. I’d prefer to see him working on policy rather than flinging shit and ‘stunts r us’.

Wait until the Mining Tax next year becomes not just the first tax in the history of man to raise no tax but because it reimburses mining companies for increases in state royalties it might just become the negative tax in the history of government.

Swan & Gillards brainfart .

F$$king idiots they are

Negative Rates are The Economists nightmare LOL

In theory they can’t exist say many.

I believe and many others don’t believe that.

Are you prepared to lose money whilst its safe ?

Negative interest rates is a blow to savers.

Europe is stuffed eg

To much spending and in the middle of their boom they decided to go “green”

They are pretty much SNAFU

We are far more dumb. We go green in the midst of a GFC

LOL

So who is thicker than a dead dingo’ s sun swollen donga ?

That would be us

Too many economists rely on stats and mathematics for their theories. Economics is far more about psychology.

That’s why Bill Evans and Chris James are more accurate.

Negative rates gets the money into investment assets or consumption .

‘New Sock puppet ?’

Finance Editor/ The Daily Trash

Bonds ?

Not here anyway

Why do that when you can buy shares in government guaranteed banks who lend savings to borrowers at a profit ?

I can name 4 big ones

LOL

I rather enjoy red, though not in a tropical climate. I’m not intending to give it up, unless I move to Uluwatu.
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Tea Pot and Toot Toot make very original contributions, where do they get all the material?

A very strong job number out of the USA

Confidence in your security and cheaper energy prices

Europe is stuffed

The world lived without China and India and the rest of Asia for most of last century.

Economically Europe is now just a sideshow.

The USA will still stay strong as they innovate . But pacific rim will thrive this century

‘Washington and Colorado became the first two states to decriminalise and regulate the possession of cannabis in ballots held alongside the US presidential election on Nov 6. The Colorado law takes effect on Jan 5.

‘In Washington it is now legal for adults over the age of 21 to possess an ounce of the drug, or up to 16 ounces of cannabis-infused goods like brownies or cookies, or up to 72 ounces in liquid form.

‘Growers and processors of cannabis will be regulated and the drug will be sold in licensed shops.

‘It will be subject to a 25 per cent tax at each stage of that process. The move is expected to bring hundreds of millions of dollars in tax revenue for spending in areas including schools and health care. The establishment of the regulation and tax system will take another year.’

UK Telegraph

“This reticence by richer countries annoys the recipient countries, which see it as avoiding responsibility for decades of uncontrolled emissions that now threaten the health of the planet.”

I think this pretty much sums up why there is a purported “consensus” on “global warming aka climate change”…MONEY….

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/06/science/earth/money-issues-thwart-united-nations-climate-talks.html?hpw

I see that the nurse in London who was involved in the 2DayFM royal prank call has suicided.

That’s very sad.

But the attention has again turned on the media/pranksters, some people look for any opportunity to offload their responsibility on to the media.

No one suicides over a prank. There’s more going on in this poor woman’s life that being on the receiving end of some humour at the expense of the royal family.

Blaming the media demeans the clearly complicated state of mind of this poor woman.

Sparta you should spend time at the cafe, a lot more laffs.

Smart move by Team Abbott

‘OPPOSITION Immigration spokesman Scott Morrison has vowed to dramatically ramp up regional deterrence measures by striking new bargains with Sri Lanka and Indonesia following Labor’s failure to stop the boats by reintroducing offshore processing.

‘Mr Morrison also said today that he was unconvinced the permanent facility planned for Nauru would suffice over the long term, particularly once refugee assessments had been conducted.’

Joe Kelly in the Oz

FACT
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The corner states of Arizona, Colorado, Utah and New-Mexico are on an ancient sea-bed. Is this sea-bed — 1. below sea level or, — 2. just above sea-level a little bit — Will we ever really know?

No one suicides over a prank. There’s more going on in this poor woman’s life that being on the receiving end of some humour at the expense of the royal family.

It’s not a prank for a nurse, it has serious consequences regarding professional performance.

Depends how mentally stable she is and how well she can cope with pressure. Everyone is different. Can you imagine the fallout from the hospital and how well was it managed? Did the machinery of the royal ‘firm’ come down heavy or did the hospital management on their behalf?

I think if that happened to me [giving out private info over the phone, which BTW is against every hospital policy] I would feel mortified. Even if it was just an ordinary citizen affected let alone the most powerful family in the land as well as an associated media shitstorm. Imagine the carry on and hysteria from everyone because it was a royal. Imagine the stress of thinking she might be sued or hounded by the press as well as any discipline coming her way? Losing her job in public disgrace?

I always think of how my dad described suicide “an act of temporary insanity with a permanent outcome”, just not right in the head at that time.

Perhaps if she had gone out & got drunk, spoken to friends, visited family or something, she might not have decided it be best to have a permanent sleep.

” the stress of thinking she might be sued or”
” hounded by the press “ (definitely)
“as well as any discipline coming her way? Losing her job in public disgrace? ”
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This is right on the money too.
The radio idiots are in hiding, under police protection and the radio station has 21,000 ‘ hate’ messages on the station facebook page.

“But the attention has again turned on the media/pranksters,
some people look for any opportunity to offload their responsibility
on to the media.”

Exactly ToM

The “Royal” hospital at question priding itself on security no doubt in order to get the “Royal” designation gets its PR machine to do a “look over there” at those Aussie arseholes who proved our security actually sucks . Never mind the poor nurse that had to fill in answering phones at a “high security” location with the resources of the entire World Press outside the door hanging on every word coming out of the joint. And yet no one thought about telephone security

Then we get people who grew up laughing at Candid Camera ( with its own Gotcha moments) or the later Chaser APEC stunt ( when security was police criticised) now condemning the same thing

It is a tragedy but the hypocrisy is “way out there”

That poor woman needed support well before last week.

I suspect a few of the Left might agree

Hey Palm Professor,
The radio idiots are in hiding, under police protection and the radio station has 21,000 ‘ hate’ messages on the station facebook page.”
10 News Flash (paraphrased)

TeaTowel of Phoenix,

Hmm…Does that mean that the sea had risen and regressed at some point without the influence of man? You get the impression there are factors involved we don’t quite understand and have absolutely no influence over….Hmm…..Figure that?

“I suspect a few of the Left might agree”

Count me in…

” hospital management had probably been drilling them about ensuring the royal family’s every request and need was pandered to. Normally she wouldn’t have seen hospital managers slumming it on the wards, but you can bet they were all over the place big noting themselves and grovelling. “
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Yes. I have seen this in Australian Hospitals, I have no doubt the UK hospitals are any different.

I’m always amused by the tortuous semantics ALP barrackers engage in to ‘prove’ Gillard isn’t a ‘lair’

Was her breach of her written agreement a ‘lie’? Or her ‘no carbon tax’ undertaking to the electorate?

It is an exercise in semantics, because regardless of whether she ‘lied; the fact is that she is dishonest…and has a long record of this.

Interesting to observe the posters here who speculate on the nurse’s state of mind and hypothesise that “she must’ve been unstable”

in my defence reb, I think that to kill herself, she could not have been quite stable at that point, unless she thought death was the only way out of her [temporary] misery. I think that she had the worst day at work, could have been ripped into by the bosses for embarrassing the royals/hosp. Then sees herself on the global media, can’t turn on TV or radio or face anyone without the embarrassment played over and over. Feels a laughing stock on a global scale – how stable would anyone feel?

I do blame the radio people for her death, she would ordinarily have done her days work and then gone home to rest, very routine stuff with which she was most competent at, then all of a sudden she is overloaded with stress beyond her expectations and the feeling that she has failed in her duty of care to a VIP pt. as a nurse. She would be terribly worried about repercussions and losing her job. It would have overwhelmed her.

If they hadn’t pulled the prank, she would be alive today and working as usual.

By and large The Daily Terror readers don’t blame the shock jocks.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/southern-cross-austereo-bosses-scramble-to-radio-fallout-shelter/story-e6freuy9-1226533219733

” harmless sense of humour among radio personalities.”
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Sounds like the chaff-bag defense.

“Flamboyant” Very funny AO. That’s what happens with technology! If only we were all exchanging post cards.

” Terror readers don’t blame the shock jocks.”
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I don’t even need to click the link on this one el’gordo. The terror will be backing radio and hospital management and slamming the nurse.
The usual Swamp Of Misogyny

LOL brilliant reb!

Idiot radio and the rest of the media will end up throwing these 2 -idiots to the wolves. The media (and-teabags) lobbied for no regulation at recent ‘inquiry’ and seem to have stalled it. Now watch them all (and-teabags) turn on the idiots, including their own station.
(opinion – go for it yomm)

and patients, maybe.

The sockpuppets aren’t yet pulling their weight.

” The real culprits in this are the hospital management team”
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Bullshit. The hospital had nothing to do with illegally recording, or broadcasting her error to the world.

FACT
NSW recording Laws have been broken by 2day

The hospital management should have had protocols in place to PREVENT such an event happening … its referred to as RISK MANAGEMENT
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That is Legal Step 2 TB.

The 2day management should have had protocols in place to PREVENT illegal recordings happening … its referred to as RISK MANAGEMENT

And should have enforced its own code of conduct, ACMA code, broadcast regs and NOT broadcast an illegal recording without consent of the ‘pranked’

Thats Legal step 1

Federal cops will also reveal that 2day ‘dialed’ the hospital, instigated.

Link?
http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/fullhtml/inforce/act+69+1984+FIRST+0+N

that’s nsw, I guess I better spoon-feed you lot with the Federal link too, huh?

UK class system

So when it comes to analysing the power relationships within the population of the UK, the concept of ‘class’ is considered useful? Is it also useful in analysing the reality of what happens within Australian society? if not then why not? And I am not suggesting for a moment that the societies are the same, just whether or not ‘class’ is a useful concept or not when it comes to analysis..

As for this ‘incident’, it seems to me that ‘management’ broadly defined to include the legal team that okayed the ‘broadcast’ must wear the most blame. Such blame must extend to employing these obviously immature DJs.

Sorry TB, I pulled it out of browser history and didn’t check it. My blue. It’s old, canceled.

Fine then Even…

“ So when it comes to analysing the power relationships within the population of the UK, the concept of ‘class’ is considered useful?”

Yes

”Is it also useful in analysing the reality of what happens within Australian society? “

Yes, but only as far as the “hack/warlord class” is concerned.

nsw
http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/fullhtml/inforce/act+64+2007+whole+0+N
note, it applies to police and media and citizens TB

Perfect Storm

• royal hospital so broke it can’t employ a receptionist at 5:30 in the morning.

• Indian nurse answers phone and does not recognise really bad accents

•perhaps she didn’t realise that she was even at the “filtering” point.

• call put thru to another nurse who thinks call already “filtered”

•young DJs pursue the conversation.

• Indian nurse does not realise the English/Aussie send up comedy rivalry

•English press pursue the embarrassment of the nurse and hospital.

• 2day fm call 5 times to get permission to broadcast but do so anyway. They knew they were obligated by reason of 5 calls yet still went ahead. Breach of law.

• Australian Media now chastised and lectured by English tabloids about ethics and responsibility

Wow !

While Palm Professor and TB are putting good points to the hospital failures, which there are some, the point of both criminal and civil court cases in the future will come back to,

Who Dialed the phone to who.

” the ‘law’ is very proper and conservative and therefore focussed on detail,”
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Correct. That is why I would suspect the hospital will have

1. requested phone records from AFP.
2. Made complaints to ACMA for recording, and
3. broadcasting without permission

dialing = instigating

Wow! ABC is running a teabag program.

“Wrong! AFP are obliged to investigate.”

Really? By whom? Are you seriously suggesting that any nutter can request phone records on incoming and outgoing calls made by any individual? Don’t think so. Or at least I hope not.

Perhaps you have a credible link?

All police, state or afp, are obliged to take all complaints seriously and follow up.
police.qld.gov.au

royal hospital so broke it can’t employ a receptionist at 5:30 in the morning.

Surprisingly, most hospital’s don’t, their business plans cover 8-4:30 [business hours] operations of admin and allied health staff. Hospitals don’t resource for the 24 hr service that they supposedly provide. Hospitals run on the goodwill and additional workloads of doctors and nurses after business hours. Haven’t you noticed that investigations, procedures and surgeries on sick people always get delayed until next day?

Some questions there that I’d like answered as well:

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/life/health/who-killed-jacintha-saldanha/

You know that, and I know that, but teabags are hell bent on delegating blame onto the hospital, instead of the instigators of this sorry sack of shit.

I don’t think the hospital is blameless, perhaps they could have foreseen or at the least prepared for such an event. After all, the pt was in their care.

Nah, sorry Kitty, independentaustralia.net doesn’t sway me. The fact remains that 2day is a nest of misogyny, and all the australian media lobbied against regulation and the media inquiry, which may (or not) prevented 2days bullshit. The major failure is still with our media generally, and 2day specifically.

” b) The hospital does have a number of serious security issues “
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While I agree with the sentiment of this comment, it is purely subjective

as no bomb, gun or other weapon was taken into the hospital. There was no real security threat.

Somebody was ‘tricked’ on the phone to

” win trust in order to humiliate.”

“The main aim is to have people laughing *at* someone.” (via reb)

” a) I’m not a “teabag” … (I think?) “
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No, I really doubt you’re a teabag TB. You have merely slipped into the ‘useful-idiot-quicksand’ and you will pull yourself out soon.

You may need to watch teabag-media circle the wagons for a little while longer over this, as both AU and UK teabag-media are fighting inquiries and regulation.

Please keep in mind, all blame delegated at the hospital, will quickly be assigned to a dead nurse, who cannot defend herself.

The Tony Abbott I know
really won’t enjoy the polls from March-2013 onwards.

Gillard got the job because she is ‘a vote magnet’.

It’s funny how the public turn away from politicians with a proven history of dishonesty.

The Tony Abbott I know
will just have to watch in 2013, Gillard get
the job because she is ‘a vote magnet’.

Christ all bloody mighty…its the silly season.

I tend to analyse the “system(s)” that people operate under (and how they are applied) rather than the people themselves
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1. Is not the LAW a system?
2. Is not the act of 2day DIALING the ‘instigation’ of this mess?
3. Did not the 2day ‘system’ failures occur BEFORE any other (royal-security OR hospital) ‘system’ failure?

this is not a “political debate”
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This is a politicized event, involving teabag-media, who are fighting tooth and claw against any form of limitation on their OFTEN terrible behavior in BOTH countries, AU and UK. Teabag-media are NOT interested in democracy, citizen-rights or behaving ETHICALLY. The teabag-media have fought against these in both inquiries and are ONLY interested in their profits.

” Yer getting there … so why …
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LOL TB.
(It was in answer to palm professor)
if you bothered to copy one line more,
the one in BOLD, which says
10 News Flash (paraphrased)

you know, television

Toot toot seems to have swallowed a thesaurus.

*not hit*
hi yomm,
nice to see another systems analysist on the thread

I don’t think requiring a friggin password requires toomany hospital staff.

I mean how many Royals Re inside that hospital at any one time .

Does Julia Gillards “Mayan End of World Speech” count as a prank or her only hope of avoiding questions over a budget deficit?

Eg

Fast rail is too logical for Australia. We only just got rid of different rail gauges.

Don’t rush at Dreams !

I’d love to jump on a train and be in Melbourne in 3 hours

I don’t buy into this 10 year worldwide depression/recession bullshit at all unless you are talking about those overpaid lazy pricks in Europe.

The USA is about to find its miracle. It was never Obama or Mitt.

It was cheap cheap very cheap energy and they Ayer about to almost drown in the stuff.

So much for carbon emission policy LOL

FACT = 2day broke AU radio codes
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2day were not allowed to broadcast ‘hoax’ recording WITHOUT CONSENT of the ‘pranked’

Click to access a%20-%20Commercial%20Radio%20Codes%20of%20Practice%20&%20Guidelines%20June%202010.pdf

FACT = from the code
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“material should not be broadcast without the consent of those involved.”
AND
“does not amount to a significant infringement of privacy such as to cause significant annoyance, distress or embarrassment.”

” find divisive discussion points”
x
1. What divisive discussion points” ?
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” even when there is concensus.”
x
2. What or Who’s ‘ consensus ‘?

” swallowed a thesaurus.”
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Nah, I haven’t swallowed the teabag handbook either.

It is a characteristic of followers – they use terms like “troll”, “tea bagger”, RWDB…or anything, to avoid discussing actual political issues and clear policy failures by this government.

While I think people are entitled to participate on political blogs through whatever mechanism satisfies them, the sock puppets here could lift their game! The inane commentary is giving sock puppetry a bad name.

…and the Slipper case has been thrown out.

Regardless of this, people are entitled to expect better behaviour from the most senior person in the House of Representatives. He simply wasn’t fit to hold the position of Speaker. He only landed the job because Gillard broke her written commitment to Wilkie.

TB, he used a publically funded mobile to send sexually explicit texts. If a company executive, in a position of trust, did this they may face some consequences.

There were serious and unresolved questions about his travel allowance claims and expenses. He’s a serial rorter.

…and he only got the job because Gillard broke her written commitment to Wilkie.

His character and behaviour made him an unsuitable Speaker.

It appears that slipper does not have a case to answer

One down 😉

Maybe there will be a new one with a ‘case’ to answer 😆

#auspol a Slush Fund set up to bring PAULINE HANSON DOWN . I do NOT think this is an UNREASONABLE QUESTION TO BE ASKING http://t.co/lPUuAKzt—
just JenRed (@JustJen64) December 11, 2012

I don’t know what you do for a crust Tom R, but if you used your employer’s mobile to send sexually explicit texts to a subordinate, do you think it would be ignored?

Should it be ignored?

I have a subordinate 😯

I don’t give a flying fuck what a lib does on his mobile.

What I do care about is vexatious claims like ashby ran all in order to just run more smear. And how the rest of the gutter dwelling libs and their media mates had proclaimed a sentence on a guy which turned out to be quite wrong.

And it just proved, Gillards Misogyny speech was right in more than just the aspect of tabots misogyny

Not that he deserves it, but Slipper is quite well positioned to make an absolute fortune out of his previous team mates and their mouthing off imo. 🙂

Ditto TomR, our teabags tried to rerun the Ken Starr thing the american teabags did years ago. The gay version with mobile phones.

Its not a real democracy, so we shouldn’t be surprised if they slip back into old ways.

This most corrupt nation on earth will retain the semblance of democracy…dictatorships are not popular at the moment,

Alan Jones has to apologise again… this time a thoughtfully scripted effort.

‘ Its not a real democracy,’
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Are any of them really ?

‘Are any of them really ?’

Our system is robust and colourful, that’s the best we can hope for.

Recession is biting, competition is under cutting. Might have to turn our boutique ‘otel into an old persons home just to survive.

”But the time has come when I must man up to a situation where I feel that I have been treated unfairly and that what little personality I had has been stripped from me.”

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