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Julia Gillard announces September 14 Election Date

January 30, 2013

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The Prime Minister (that’s Julia Gillard), has used a speech at the National Press Club this afternoon to issue a SHOCK ANNOUNCEMENT that the Federal Election will be held on Saturday September 14.

The decision to “out” the election date today is at odds with the usual time-past honour of fluffing about with months of speculation about the timing until the very last moment.

During her speech, the Prime Minister reflected on flat house prices, lower superannuation returns, a high savings rate, increasing commuting times and the contrast with the pre-GFC era of constantly rising consumption.

She also reflected on how governments are “doing it tough” because revenue keeps missing forecasts, and how business may simply have to get used to a high dollar that refuses to succumb to the gravity exerted by declining terms of trade and an inevitable decline in mining investment.

And like Stephen Conroy’s now defunct “Internet Filtering” scheme, the election date effectively relegates the Government’s controversial “Internet Data Retention Plan” to the garbage can, given that Parliament’s last sitting day will be on 27 June.

The data retention plan, roundly condemned by civil libertarians, would have forced all Australian telcos and internet service providers to store the online data of all Australians for up to two years.

You can read the PM’s full speech here.

Tony Abbott is due to present his alternative vision for Australia at the National Press Club tomorrow, a speech that someone is now no doubt frantically  re-writing…

 

 

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  1. January 30, 2013 3:37 pm

    After three years of calling for a new election on an almost daily basis, Joe Hockey says the Sept 14 date is “too early..”

    LOL…

  2. Tom R permalink
    January 30, 2013 3:49 pm

    I don’t believe it for a minute. All it will do is re-ignite their leadershit obsession

  3. Tom R permalink
    January 30, 2013 3:49 pm

    And let’s see if theirabc can outdo themselves

    http://australiansforhonestpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/01/29/whats-happened-to-our-abc/

  4. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 3:51 pm

    Will the Gillard PMship last until 14 September ?

    The cynic would think this is her way of locking the caucus in behind her (even if some are still carrying knives) and perhaps a desperate hope by her spin merchants that by doing this she can get the voters focused on the Future rather than her rather woeful political Past.

    But the tradeoff is she’s kissed all flexibility on when to call an election “goodbye”

  5. January 30, 2013 3:51 pm

    Oh noes… Tony Abbott responds with ‘this election will be about trust, who can you trust…”

    etc etc..

    Haven’t we heard all this before…?

  6. January 30, 2013 3:53 pm

    Oh dear Tony walks off from press conference refusing to take any questions…

  7. January 30, 2013 3:56 pm

    “Refusing to take any questions”.

    That’s Abbott right there. A thug and a coward, an empty head, not a brain in his arse or an idea in his head. Just a mouth full of catchphrases that mean nothing. A bullshit artist, a serial liar and a right fucking cunt.

  8. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 3:59 pm

    And your point is ?

    LOL

  9. Tom R permalink
    January 30, 2013 4:01 pm

    And your point is ?

    That you appear likely to vote for “A bullshit artist, a serial liar and a right fucking cunt.” 🙂

  10. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 4:02 pm

    Just thinking about the shape of the first Abbott ministry………………

    Cory Bernardio would make an excellent Attorney General

    🙂

  11. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 4:02 pm

    Bernardi I meant

  12. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 4:04 pm

    “…That you appear likely to vote for “A bullshit artist, a serial liar and a right fucking cunt.”…”

    But that means we both have the same choice.

    Might as well be voting for BP petrol over Caltex petrol

  13. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 30, 2013 4:19 pm

    Announcing a date-
    *Allows Gillard to press Abbott for policy detail
    *Locks caucus in behind her
    *Will she her say things like – ‘Orstrayians wanna tork about tha few-cha..Mr Airbut wantsta tork about tha paarst’

  14. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 30, 2013 4:21 pm

    I mean…*Will hear her say things like – ‘Orstrayians wanna tork about tha few-cha..Mr Airbut wantsta tork about tha paarst’

  15. Tom R permalink
    January 30, 2013 4:21 pm

    But that means we both have the same choice.

    except that one ‘lie’ to a politician (wilkie) hardly makes her a ‘serial liar’

  16. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 4:29 pm

    “…..one ‘lie’……..”

    LOL

    I do recall you saying once that numbers were not your forte.

    Clearly you cant count past 1

  17. January 30, 2013 5:05 pm

    Joe Hockey says the Sept 14 date is “too early..”
    Joolya`s going to election about 2-months/8-weeks earlier than she must, her mob must have worked out noise-polls are bullshit too, its the information thats important. Sloppy Joe is quite funny aint he, they`ve been screaming for a `re-count` since 2010.

  18. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 30, 2013 5:11 pm

    “One lie”

    The most significant breach of trust*, written word to a fellow MP I can recall. A written agreement containing unconditional commitments – without which Gillard would never have been able to move into the Lodge.

    …and time forbids me listing the various other examples of her dishonesty.

    *(and don’t bother with Pauline Hanson… Abbott didn’t get to become PM on the basis of his actions against her)

  19. el gordo permalink
    January 30, 2013 5:30 pm

    ‘…and time forbids me listing the various other examples of her dishonesty.’

    Most appalling of all, sucking up to the watermelons and bringing in that tax on carbon dioxide.

    She lies like a pig in mud.

  20. TB Queensland permalink
    January 30, 2013 5:33 pm

    Tony Abbott is due to present his alternative vision for Australia at the National Press Club tomorrow, a speech that someone is now no doubt frantically re-writing…

    I think someoneS will be madly RESEARCHING let alone re-writing … nowt’s writ … LOL!

  21. el gordo permalink
    January 30, 2013 5:34 pm

    Bernardi would be good as Attorney General, leaving Brandis with Arts.

  22. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 5:34 pm

    “She lies like a pig in mud.”

    Yes……..very happily indeed

  23. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 5:37 pm

    By the way the final budget deficit for 2013 was scheduled for release as it is each year at the end of September.

    So conveniently we wont know how large the fiscal disaster is until post election

  24. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 5:38 pm

    “Bernardi would be good as Attorney General”

    Eg

    I was only joking ya know

  25. January 30, 2013 5:40 pm

    “_Most appalling of all, sucking up to the watermelons_”
    =
    You Tea Guzzlers should be happy gordo, Joolya`s giving you that re-count your mob have been braying for since 2010.

  26. January 30, 2013 5:52 pm

    Did Joolya`s question and answer part at NPC get transcripted.?

  27. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 5:55 pm

    “…Did Joolya`s question and answer part at NPC get transcripted.?…”

    Its release has been held up temporarily in case some of it needs to be altered……I mean redacted……Um…….edited….

    ……you know how traffic noise is these days.

  28. January 30, 2013 6:15 pm

    Did the candidate for
    global warming is crap
    really flee the embedded-media and not take questions after sep-14 was announced.?

  29. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 6:15 pm

    Its amusing that Julia told the Greens and the Indies of her intentions before most her Cabinet knew.

    The ALP really is her personal “playthingie”

  30. el gordo permalink
    January 30, 2013 6:21 pm

    Joolya is a closet watermelon.

  31. January 30, 2013 6:25 pm

    her personal “playthingie”
    That`s it precisely!
    lt`s how Credlin describes Mr-Rabbit.

  32. January 30, 2013 6:31 pm

    After yesterday`s unhinging, you still have not shown us those nt, wa, and sa seats Mr-Rabbit will gain/lose outside those l told you about, feel free to recruit gordo to help you jock-shock.

  33. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 30, 2013 6:48 pm

    “………you still have not shown us those nt, wa, and sa seats Mr-Rabbit will gain/lose outside those l told you about………..”

    I didn’t say I would comment on your pretty pointless hypothetical which was not even backed up by the vaguest of polling.

    Please point to where I said I would.

    I was far too busy laughing at your “it’s in the Vibe rant” or should I call it your “wishlist” because that’s all you held up as your evidence.

    Why not wet your finger…………. stick it in the air ………….see which way the wind is blowing tonight………… and have another go.

    I’m up for a laugh

  34. January 30, 2013 7:04 pm

    Todays Lesson, Sturt (SA)
    Mr-Poodle barely scraped his arse over the Sturt carpet last time, the voter demographics have changed and are continuing to change. Not only will Mr-Poodle get bounced, so will Libz generally, and Sturt will go federally to another party or independent. Come Sep-14 Australians will have seen the last mincing at the dispatch-box from him. As older residents of Sturt have `moved-on`, they have been replaced by `younger` and working-class residents.

    YOUR TURN JOCK SHOCK 🙂 🙂 🙂

  35. January 30, 2013 7:13 pm

    and time forbids me listing the various other examples of her dishonesty

    we await it expectantly though 😉

    I note that there is much laughter about my countin’, but no example of a higher number 😯

    Yes. Hanson I would think holds tabot in far more contempt than Wilkie does Gillard. Pokie reform is still going through, and hanson still has those memories from behind the bars 😉

  36. January 30, 2013 7:34 pm

    “Hanson I would think holds tabot in far more contempt than Wilkie does Gillard. ”

    When I spoke to Andrew I was under no illusion about how he felt about Gillard’s dishonesty.

  37. TB Queensland permalink
    January 30, 2013 7:37 pm

    http://uk.reuters.com/

    The PM’s announcement got a look in, on Reuters UK … but not a whisper about the fires and floods over the last weeks … (someone may happily challenge that?) …

    My point … we have a Queen of Australia and The Firm is busily making money and “image” – you know the soldier in Afghanistan and the son in the Falklands – WTF do we have a royal interference in politics for? Because we don’t earn ’em any graft …

    Either Australia is an independent country or we just fart around as a babe of the Empire fending for itself in the colonies (that we do!) or we are a nation and fuck ’em all!

    Weak willed Monarchists with no balls and a wish to bend the knee can piss off to the Motherland for all I care … give me an Aussie running the show … not – well – no-one …

    Australia is a bit like the lost battalion … WHO?

  38. TB Queensland permalink
    January 30, 2013 7:39 pm

    When I spoke to Andrew I was under no illusion about how he felt about Gillard’s dishonesty.

    First name! Whooooo! Did you record the interview?

  39. January 30, 2013 7:47 pm

    When I spoke to Andrew I was under no illusion about how he felt about Gillard’s dishonesty.

    And I would say it was still higher than hansons regard for tabot 😉

  40. January 30, 2013 7:48 pm

    I’ve met Andrew a few times TB. He’s a very decent man with principles intact and a keen sense of social justice.

  41. January 30, 2013 7:51 pm

    “And I would say it was still higher than hansons regard for tabot”

    I’m not so sure.

  42. TB Queensland permalink
    January 30, 2013 8:10 pm

    But isn’t Wilkie angry at the way he was treated by both the Liberal AND ALP – being a serf I’ve never met him … 😉

    I have always rtespected him for his “stand” against Howard’s Private School Bullys – but he bothers me because of his idealism … bit like Xylophone … I have reservations about pollies driven by personal issues rather than community issues … nah “majority issues” maybe … I admire altruists but they aren’t “mainstream” – like Gillard and Howard (Howard;s battlers FFS!)

  43. January 30, 2013 8:23 pm

    under no illusion about how he felt about Gillard’s dishonesty.
    =
    lt came through like that at my end too reb.

  44. January 30, 2013 8:28 pm

    TB, the thing is, that in Tasmania with high unemployment and societal problems, the pokies are regarded as a HUGE problem.

    These are significant State-specific issues for Tasmania, which is why Wilkie is popular at a local level.

  45. January 30, 2013 8:31 pm

    “being a serf I’ve never met him … ”

    Andrew owned a small shop selling Turkish rugs in North Hobart… Anyone could stroll in and have a chat…

  46. January 30, 2013 8:40 pm

    I admire altruists but they aren’t “mainstream” – like Gillard and Howard (Howard;s battlers FFS!)
    .
    l hear where you`re coming from TB and pretty much agree, but what is always neglected in so-called political discussions, is that politic`s is a `fringe` sport, a bit like lacross or curling. Most of the public just aren`t interested in it 24/7 if at all. TV ratings across AU, uk, usa and others have shown for years that viewers hit the remote button for another channel when politicians are put on.

  47. el gordo permalink
    January 30, 2013 8:42 pm

    Assange to run for the senate and his mom says he’ll be “awesome”.

  48. el gordo permalink
    January 30, 2013 8:44 pm

    ‘…viewers hit the remote button for another channel when politicians are put on.’

    Except in the case of Jon Stewart News.

  49. January 30, 2013 8:49 pm

    colbert-report and daily-show are actually comedy shows gordo, and the news orgs really don`t like it that comedians are actually out-stripping the newsroom in ratings and influence
    (and guest desirability)

  50. TB Queensland permalink
    January 30, 2013 8:54 pm

    These are significant State-specific issues for Tasmania …

    I noticed that Tassie is special when I visited 500,000 residents is 30% omy CITY …

    … problem is not pokies* but PEOPLE … what a great answer to the asylum seekers FFS! Forrest Gump is on TV tonight … simple is as simple does … 🙄

    Pretty limited where I went … prhaps Wilkie should be a State pollie not a Federal pollie?

    Andrew owned a small shop selling Turkish rugs in North Hobart … I rest my case!!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yeah, 7:30 I know that most of us here are part of the 20% (occasional 80%ers post … the ones we have fun with 😉 ) …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Assange to run for the senate and his mom says he’ll be “awesome”.

    So we know whwre Julian gets his crap from then … hows he gets out of the Old Dart will be interesting … is it true that you live in a closet, egg?

    BTW, Assange is Australian – we say fkn MUM and FOOTPATH not fkn sidewalk … WTF is happening to my chosen country!

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    January 30, 2013 8:55 pm

    Except in the case of Jon Stewart News. Yep – closet …

  52. el gordo permalink
    January 30, 2013 9:36 pm

    Bernardi is suing Fairfax for defamation over this article by Jessica Wright.

    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbotts-man-under-fire-over-extreme-right-lobbying-20130126-2ddls.html

  53. January 30, 2013 9:53 pm

    Reblogged this on Justacceptit's Blog.

  54. Truly Evil Walrus @ Palm Bitch permalink
    January 30, 2013 10:40 pm

    “YOUR TURN JOCK SHOCK ”

    Sorry I cannot even describe how inadequate I feel in the comedy stakes when confronted by your posts.

  55. Truly Evil Walrus @ Palm Bitch permalink
    January 30, 2013 10:54 pm

    Anyway governments good and bad eventually get shafted in a democracy. The frightening non issue so far seems to be this never ending attack on freedoms since this government came to power

    1. Conroy and his Internet filter

    2. The FinkiwillFuckyou enquiry into press freedoms

    3. Roxons toxic “don’t hurt me” laws

    4. Internet surfing records to be kept for possible government examination for 2 years

    After over 110 years of successful democracy who the fuck do these ALP grubs think they are to interfere ?

  56. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    January 30, 2013 11:03 pm

    I’m currently in Hobart, business conditions are soft – decline is predicted… but the people I’ve spoken to are supportive of Wilkie.

  57. el gordo permalink
    January 30, 2013 11:22 pm

    ‘business conditions are soft – decline is predicted…’

    In the central west of NSW… business remains subdued.

  58. el gordo permalink
    January 30, 2013 11:29 pm

    I hasten to add that we are better off than Spain.

    ‘The Spanish authorities and the Commission are betting that Spain’s policy of “internal devaluation” and wage cuts within EMU will slash unit labour costs enough to claw back competitiveness, but this is a risky strategy that may overlook the lasting damage to the productive economy – a concept known as “hysteresis”.

    Ambrose Evans Pritchard

  59. January 30, 2013 11:37 pm

    “YOUR TURN JOCK SHOCK ”
    So you (and gordo) reckon Mr-Poodle will be returned.?
    (is gordo helping you.?)

  60. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 6:49 am

    My money is on a tabot victory…. the marginals say its all wrapped up.

  61. January 31, 2013 6:54 am

    the marginals say its all wrapped up.

    Did you get that from their entrails?

  62. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 7:09 am

    ‘A SURVEY of 54 key marginal electorates shows Labor stands to lose as many as 18 seats at the federal election to be held later this year.

    ‘The poll of 3350 people across electorates with a margin of 6% or less was conducted by JWS Research and shows a two-party-preferred swing against the government of 4.8%.

    ‘A uniform swing of this magnitude would deliver the Coalition 91 seats and a thumping election victory, while reducing Labor’s numbers on the floor of the House of Representatives to 54.’

    Adam Carroll

  63. January 31, 2013 7:13 am

    Thanks gordo, Mr-Rabbit 91 seats.

  64. January 31, 2013 7:14 am

    Now what did the 2010 surveys and/or polls say Mr-Rabbit would get to in the 2010 election.?

  65. January 31, 2013 7:23 am

    Kevin Bonham has ripped that JWS poll to shreds grodo

    They didn’t even use entrails in that 😉

    There are three problem areas so far as the JWS poll is concerned: (i) non-neutral commissioning (ii) apparent inconsistency with the national 2PP, unresolved by benchmarking (iii) misleading and confusing presentation of projections. But all that taken into account it seems to still say some useful things

    http://kevinbonham.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/mayhem-in-marginals-jws-and-early-seat.html

  66. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 7:38 am

    ‘Ms Gillard may have announced the election date – 7½ months early – but for a moment, the glasses threatened to overshadow the news. Not since John Howard went rimless had Australia witnessed such a major politico-ocular event.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/all-the-better-to-see-the-opposition-with-8230-20130130-2dl7e.html#ixzz2JUdlG3mN

  67. January 31, 2013 7:46 am

    the glasses threatened to overshadow the news

    ROFL

    (sob)

  68. January 31, 2013 7:54 am

    It just goes to show how wrong these statements were grodo

    https://thedailytrash.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/julia-gillard-announces-september-14-election-date/#comment-15038

    Who could ignore the glasses!!

  69. January 31, 2013 7:59 am

    this is why l always say the noise-polls are bullshit folks,

    2010 poll
    the results point to 79 seats for Labor and 68 for the Coalition with three independents
    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2010/08/17/nielsen-marginals-mega-poll/

    teh-poll = Lib 79, Lab 68, lnd 3
    Actual result = Lib 73, Lab 72, Ind 5
    ERRORs = Lib 6, Lab 4, lnd 2

    teh-poll claimed 11 seats between Lib and Lab (actual 1)
    and `misplaced` nearly half (40%) of the lnd`s

  70. January 31, 2013 8:31 am

    l reckon gordo`s data above @ January 31, 2013 7:09 am
    is incomplete or out of context and is way over-blown,
    but because the Teabags want to use it, then that`s fine
    with me.
    for the record, teh polls reckon Mr-Rabbit will get 91 seats in the 2013 election
    we can now watch from today, until sep-14 this 91 number plummet.
    .
    lt is bullshit and won`t hold. l also don`t give a shit where the numbers go to, Lab, lnd, Green. Let us just keep track of Mr-Rabbits number and see how much bullshit Lobbying by the embedded media and if the punters fall for it. l reckon the punters won`t.

  71. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 8:39 am

    The punters have Tabot to win, with Joolya a length further back.

  72. January 31, 2013 9:03 am

    l found evidence gordo, yomm and jaws are really quite sane!
    http://beginrant.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/begin-rant-why-an-election-on-yom-kippur-is-offensive-to-me/

  73. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 9:09 am

    Essential polls are good to go.

  74. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 9:26 am

    l found evidence gordo, yomm and jaws are really quite sane!

    l found evidence too 😉

  75. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 9:26 am

  76. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 9:31 am

    Anyhoo, my astrologer said its going to be a tie, again.

    Minority guvmint beckons, you heard it here first.

  77. January 31, 2013 9:31 am

    l thought somebody would find what l stepped in funny 🙂

  78. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 31, 2013 9:36 am

    Looks like Gillard’s about to hit the first pothole of her campaign year.

    From the Oz today…..

    “FAIR Work Australia’s legal battle against former Labor MP Craig Thomson over alleged misuse of union funds has yielded its first CCTV evidence, with the Westin hotel chain ready to release screen shots taken from security cameras in one of its hotels.

    A Federal Court registrar yesterday allowed FWA’s lawyers to inspect the footage, taken from the chain’s back-up system, and also granted them access to a partially redacted document provided by a company director linked to an escort agency.

    FWA’s legal case also expanded into the heart of the NSW Labor Party, with details emerging of a subpoena for a document related to Mr Thomson’s 2007 bid for the NSW seat of Dobell and payments to the NSW ALP from the Health Services Union, which Mr Thomson then led.

    FWA has alleged Mr Thomson misused union funds to kick-start his campaign for the central coast seat, spending thousands of dollars on staff, advertising and office equipment. The subpoena seeks records relating to Mr Thomson’s application for preselection and records about the employment of Criselee Stevens by the ALP in Dobell between 2005 and 2007. It seeks information about two payments totalling $3500 from the ALP to the Dobell branch of the ALP in 2006.

    It also seeks information about a $12,500 invoice to the NSW ALP branch for advertising.
    In a hearing in Melbourne yesterday, Federal Court registrar David Pringle …….The Westin hotel chain told the court it changed its computer system in 2006, complicating its search for records. “But they have managed to find some documents captured as screen shots off back-up tapes,” Mr Pringle said……………..

    FWA has alleged Mr Thomson stayed at a Westin hotel in Melbourne, paid for with union money, while on annual leave in 2005.

    Mr Pringle also gave permission for FWA’s lawyers to inspect the shots, as well as a partially redacted document provided by Graeme George Edwards, director of International Immobiliare, which ran the Boardroom escort agency.

    It is alleged Mr Thomson used a union credit card to purchase escort services from The Boardroom for $770 in 2005.

    The Federal Court heard that Gary Mark Scott, who was a director of Confidential Model Escorts, which Mr Thomson allegedly used while visiting Melbourne in 2006, has provided a statement to Victoria Police.

    Mr Thomson’s lawyer, Chris McArdle, said yesterday he believed the statement was unlikely to contain any evidence of wrongdoing.

    “I think his statement is he doesn’t know,” Mr McArdle said.

    “Mr Thomson has never met him, has never seen him, never done business with him and never provided a service to him…………..”

  79. TB Queensland permalink
    January 31, 2013 9:39 am

    My money is on a tabot victory …

    You told us a couple of weeks a go that you had no money, egg … Centrelink handouts etc etc …

  80. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 9:46 am

    The money quote

    “I think his statement is he doesn’t know,” Mr McArdle said.

    Pretty much sums up the whole article, another story about nothing, with nothing to offer except another opportunity to go through the accusations again

    It’s like a never ending episode of Seinfield, without the comedic timing

  81. TB Queensland permalink
    January 31, 2013 9:47 am

    FOR SALE (OR LEASE)

    One only, slightly used,

    Genuine Liberal Party Cracked Crystal Ball

    Note this is not a Chinese copy manufactured for the 2010 election

    Contact: Via Webmeaster …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Power to the People not Power to the Pollies!

  82. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 31, 2013 9:53 am

    “………another story about nothing, with nothing to offer except another opportunity to go through the accusations again”

    Well you could possibly say that………………………That’s if you also assume that the Westin Hotel has gone to the trouble of ferreting out 7 year old screens-shots of empty hotel corridors.

    Seems pretty unlikely

  83. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 31, 2013 10:02 am

    Meanwhile Roxon is apparently busy redrafting her “Hurt Feelings Laws”

    But will she reverse the Onus of Proof back to the English Law concept .

    Currently (as far as I know) under Australian Laws only the ATO places the Onus of Proof upon the accused.

    And that’s for understandable practical reasons

  84. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 10:03 am

    <i.That’s if you also assume that the Westin Hotel has gone to the trouble of ferreting out 7 year old screens-shots of empty hotel corridors.

    I wonder if a certain NZ Hooker used to work there 😯

    I think that this sums it all up better

    Step 6 in particular with grodos poll earlier

    http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/life/satire/the-mainstream-baromedia/

  85. January 31, 2013 10:05 am

    “_Westin Hotel_”
    While Guzzling on this thom`p`son topic the ever-so important information, (now the election is on) of recent negatives on Mr-Rabbit being overlooked by some teabags. Not only his Chief Of Staff losing all faith in her charge and resorting to #egg-stunt, and not only fleeing the media yesterday and not taking questions after Joolya`s sep-14 announcement. Today we have Mr-Rabbit facing the national press club where we know he won`t let us down and give us the goof-ups and stunts we enjoy!

  86. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 31, 2013 10:44 am

    Today’s the 31st of January………………..the Election is the 14th of September

    This is going to be a Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong Thread by then

  87. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 10:50 am

    no

  88. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 10:50 am

    it’s

  89. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 10:51 am

    not

  90. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 11:11 am

    ‘You told us a couple of weeks a go that you had no money, egg …’

    Nothings changed, just dremin’…

    Joolya is a brilliant strategist, running an Amerikan style election.

  91. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 11:19 am

    Joolya is a brilliant strategist, running an Amerikan style election.

    You mean a Claytons campaign, the campaign you have when you don’t have a campaign.

    I think the meeja missed that part of the speech

  92. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 11:29 am

    Her political nous may save her yet, against all odds.

    The PMs greatest asset is Tabot’s unpopularity with the electorate, so all she has to do is run him hard and hope he puts his foot in mouth a dozen times.

    Its a presidential style election when you don’t have a Republic yet.

  93. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 11:40 am

    The PMs greatest asset is Tabot’s unpopularity

    And dopes like you 😉

  94. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 11:43 am

    and hockey, who has taken to embarrassing himself in fields outside of his expertise as well

    “We’re not carrying around cables from the back of our car or out of our pocket.”

    http://delimiter.com.au/2013/01/31/hockey-admits-we-cant-shut-down-the-nbn/

  95. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 31, 2013 11:58 am

    “Joolya is a brilliant strategist, running an Amerikan style election”

    Even Graham Richardson thinks she’s mad and former Rudd speech writer Troy Bramston cant believe she has given the Liberals & Nats such certainty with their scheduling and planning.

    Hotels can now be booked, flights arranged, halls booked, focus groups organised, posters and pamphlets printed, polling day staff organised, advertising booked………etc……….etc

    This sort of stuff used to be done on the “quiet” by the incumbent Party.

    Now everyone can do it

  96. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 12:00 pm

    This sort of stuff used to be done on the “quiet” by the incumbent Party

    And yet all morning the libs have been running around complaining about hte ‘uncertainty’ this announcement brings

    ROFL

  97. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 12:24 pm

    Tony wants to become Mr Popularity, this is useless strategy. He would be better served talking about Infrastructure Dreaming.

  98. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 12:35 pm

    On the other hand, it’s a popularity contest between two veterans who look like Nana Mouskouri and Frank Sinatra…. its a good contest.

  99. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 12:37 pm

    What’s the name of her stylist? Check out the glasses.

  100. el gordo permalink
    January 31, 2013 1:00 pm

    ‘JULIA Gillard is adamant that the seven months leading to the September 14 election will not be Australia’s longest election campaign. The Prime Minister may be adamant, but she’s wrong.

    ‘What Gillard has done is formalise an informal election campaign in an attempt to maximise the advantage of office, to draw on the authority of being a working prime minister and to apply pressure on Tony Abbott and the opposition to announce and cost policies well before the official election campaign starts on August 12.’

    Dennis Shanahan in the Oz

  101. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 31, 2013 1:04 pm

    LOL

    The New South Wales ICAC enquiry into corruption in the former ALP Government seems to have finally implicated some of the biggest of the ALP Heavies.

    The final report is scheduled to be out in August or earlier.

    “…………He said he first spoke to Mr Macdonald about mining licences during a 2008 breakfast with his father, Michael Costa, Joe Tripodi and Eric Roozendaal at an Italian cafe near Parliament House……………”

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/closing-on-the-truth-as-obeids-take-the-stand/story-e6freuy9-1226565359724

  102. January 31, 2013 1:09 pm

    BREAKING NEWS:

    Reports emerging that Craig Thomson has been arrested by Police.

  103. January 31, 2013 1:10 pm

    Reports just confirmed by ABC News!

  104. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 31, 2013 1:25 pm

    LOL

    The pothole that TomR said above did not exist actually does.

    Must be all the rain ay TomR ????????????????????

    But its probably just a media beatup………………….everybody gets arested from time to time dont they ????????

  105. January 31, 2013 1:28 pm

    Thomson arrested on fraud charges – expected to be extradited to VIC to face charges…

  106. Tom R permalink
    January 31, 2013 1:48 pm

    But its probably just a media beatup

    Who knows, ask Slipper 😉

  107. TB Queensland permalink
    January 31, 2013 3:14 pm

    Noddy Newman’s lot “at work” again …

    http://www.news.com.au/national/ergon-maintenance-workers-delayed-from-entering-bundaberg-flood-zone-for-briefing-on-further-redundancies/story-fndo4ckr-1226565672752

    And our ToM berates the unions for poor management … when will they ever learn …

  108. TB Queensland permalink
    January 31, 2013 3:19 pm

    Reports just confirmed by ABC News!

    Why does the “cynic” in me keep saying … she knew, the PM knew … she got a heads up … and decided to go with an election …

    … cynical alright …

    … and I just agonised through five minutes of Tony Abbott! Maybe I could get a Pommie passport … but then realised Cameron was running the show in the UK …

    Syria’s looking good 🙄

  109. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 31, 2013 4:00 pm

    Syria is a very sad state of affairs.

    Assad is positively evil but the problem is that on the other side there is a not a lilly white to be found either.

    When you look at the entire Middle East Churchill’s redrawing of borders during the 1920s is probably his most disastrous legacy to mankind. Not blaming him for all of it though.

  110. TB Queensland permalink
    January 31, 2013 4:38 pm

    😯

    Did you ever “get”, Monty Python, Wally? Or, The Chasers … 🙄

    Still, if you want to be serial* about it … history does repeat … in 1936 – 39 the Spanish War was vicious and cruel … another three years and the world was at it … the Great Depression began in 1930 … The GFC in 2007 … just sayin’ …

    *sic

    ( Churchill’s redrawing of borders during the 1920s is probably his most disastrous legacy I can think of quite a few more, self centred prick he was …)

  111. January 31, 2013 5:53 pm

    Election 2013, Day 1

    *compromised political integrity comes home to roost, dressed as Craig Thomson.

    *the Abbott fucktard exhibits the type of preening & overconfidence which may prove to be his undoing.

    *Australia slithers that much closer to the inevitable darkness of HowardCorp V2.0.

    *the baby jesus wets its knickers…

  112. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    January 31, 2013 5:56 pm

    So ya reckon all up Julia’s had a pretty good day ?

  113. January 31, 2013 6:25 pm

    Joolya`s so-called `bad` day today does not equate to Mr-Rabbit having a good day on #sep-14
    .
    any more #egg-stunts coming?

  114. January 31, 2013 6:28 pm

    “_exhibits the type of preening & overconfidence_”
    .
    Wot _ Like 2010.?

  115. January 31, 2013 6:50 pm

    The preening hothead pissed all over the powder he should have been keeping dry, today.

  116. January 31, 2013 7:50 pm

    Mr-Poodle is with Toolman at the moment, having the usual hissy.

  117. January 31, 2013 7:53 pm

    I know 730, I was about to call you directly and lodge a complaint.

  118. January 31, 2013 7:53 pm

    l don`t know what`s wrong. Toolman is out-breaking in jouralism.

  119. January 31, 2013 8:04 pm

    Sorry, Loyal viewer reb, unreserved apologies to you and all viewers. Just got off phone with L-Sales who is deeply pissed off with Toolman for trampling her grass. She`s the one who is meant to do the journalism.

  120. January 31, 2013 9:04 pm

    Phone running hot tonight. Emma-A bitterly complaining about having to deal with Tory-Power-Turd Brandis `again` this week. Brandis will be hyperventilating on #LatelineLand tonight, which we all suspect will be the usual bile.

  121. TB Queensland permalink
    January 31, 2013 9:39 pm

    Brandis will be hyperventilating on #LatelineLand tonight,

    What a happy program for me to go to sleep with … 🙄

  122. Completely_Confused permalink
    March 3, 2013 7:07 pm

    I’m doing something for Commerce- does anyone know or can guess why Julia Gillard has announced the election date 8 months early?

  123. el gordo permalink
    March 3, 2013 7:22 pm

    Joolya thought it would steady the troops and take their minds off replacing her.

  124. TB Queensland permalink
    March 3, 2013 7:41 pm

    CC … you will be given a myriad of clever, funny, silly, possible and probable answers here at TDT … (that’s what we do – but rarely agree) …

    … none of the answers will help you in, “doing something for Commerce”, because no-one knows – except the Prime Minister and her advisers – though many will claim that right …

    …. especially if they managed to purchase a Liberal Party Crack’d Crystal Ball in 2007 (or after the election when many were discarded) … NoS and ToM and Wlrus in particular all seem to get the same “readings” (usually from the same source … 😉 )

    I see the first rank off the cab 🙂 is the local toothslayer … egg … see what I mean?

    Good luck with your “studies”?

  125. March 3, 2013 8:00 pm

    ” Liberal Party Crack’d Crystal Ball in 2007 “
    and embedded media Crack’d Crystal Ball in 2010,
    they predicted Mr-Rabbit 79 seats, only got 73.
    Expect another Watermelon Govt, or Joolya by a nose.

  126. el gordo permalink
    March 3, 2013 8:13 pm

    Its not easy reading the political mind, especially the PMs, but unless someone has a better idea…. then it must have be fear of the Rudd Push which prompted an early election.

  127. TB Queensland permalink
    March 3, 2013 8:39 pm

    Its not easy reading the political mind, especially the PMs, but unless someone has a better idea….

    I do … stop trying to … no-one tries to read Tony Abbott’s mind … 😆

  128. el gordo permalink
    March 3, 2013 8:45 pm

    Over at the cafe they spend a lot of time denigrating Abbott and they seem very conscious of his mind’s workings.

  129. March 4, 2013 10:59 pm

    Your allowed to play at the kaf gordo.? l thought they locked you in the spam-trap, or is that just coffee-2.?

  130. el gordo permalink
    March 5, 2013 7:22 am

    I look over the fence at the cafe, but don’t say anything.

    The regulars there are completely screwed, although I admit to having a soft spot for Min but its probably not reciprocated. We haven’t spoken since I told her she was brainwashed.

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