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February 8, 2013
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Can someone tell me why when a jockey was allowed by stewards to ride in a Melbourne cup last year whilst under a betting scandal cloud they were not represented at the sport corruption thingy yesterday .
And we also have is it jockey Danny Nickoviich or some name like that threatening violence upon a steward resulting in a suspension and the racing industry is not involved yesterday.
If this is about illegal betting why the fuck was it restricted to football and cricket. Racing is our biggest sport betting industry by far.
Oh hang on its footy season. Lets get thommo and Rudd off the front pages .
Look over there
AO “ The boomers sure do look after themselves [at the expense of everyone else].
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TB “Some, BBs, KL, some … most won’t have much on retirement at all. ”
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when l rant about `boomers`, l`m referring to the boomers with power and/or wealth that are dismantling the system for their benefit and removing opportunity for those who follow
” hatchet job on every aspect of Australian Sport ”
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armchair “ We prefer the toothless tiger approach of an investigative body that is not funded to do anything but have an office. ”
ROFL. that sums up just about all the integrity and enforcement agencies in the country.
What’s with all this drugs-in-sport hysteria? Nobody charged, let alone convicted. Sounds like an election year beat up to me. Not to mention another group of public servants (ASADA) justifying their existence. It’s akin to the police command calling a press conference to announce the release of a study confirming that drug trafficking is rife in the community.
MM makes a lot of sense.
” tradie son is a bit of a gym junkie and _ walking pharmacopoeia ”
sorry to hear that armchair, l hope you can spank the stupid out of him soon
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” armstrong defences of “never had a positive drug test” ”
” stuff is too advanced for the testing ”
yeah, and l reckon it always will be, with a big bucket of money at the end of these sports, there will always be big efforts to beat the so-called system and cash-in
TB “ And ’tis not ONLY the BB gen that are tight and selfish ”
but the boomers are the ones in Power and Control the wealth at the moment
Then again, if all this sanctimonious moralising means that the halo of St James of Essingdon is tarnished somewhat, I can live with that.
” mr-Lefty picked up on Joolya`s `feminista` bullshit too ”
armchair “ My thoughts are more aligned with everyday-keri ”
http://anonymouslefty.wordpress.com/2012/10/10/a-triumphdefeat/#comment-31376
keri “ Someone needed to stand up long ago. Julia cracked, and as a result, a lot of women actually felt like someone was defending them. Do you think every woman in Australia doesn’t cop the same kind of thing Julia does? ”
yep, agree with keri and you armchair, l am glad mr-Left had a screech too. You may recall at the time l screeched long and loud about the `embedded-media-coverage` on the day, megaphoning the speech in the international-press, but Joolya and Mr-Rabbit `cut-womens-welfare` barely got mentioned. To add to the noise, the canberra press gallery hooted about slipper resigning and totally missed the welfare-cuts. No credit was given to Windsor and Oakeshott at the time, who actually GOT slipper to resign and barely acknowledged on LatelineLand as TJ tried to wallow in the `gotch` game with Oakeshott. l consider that days so-called news poorly covered, over-blown hype with no context by all media orgs.
” The other highly amusing thing for me was my engagement with members of the mainstream media in the lift going down while they chatted between themselves trying to sort out what had just happened in court. “
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” It was my “OH For Fuck’s Sake” moment as I then, without the benefit of any notes, gave them a six point summary as to what had happened – all done and dusted before we hit the ground floor. Once outside the court precincts I was asked to repeat what I had said in the lift, which I did while notes were taken, “
http://boeufblogginon.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/ashby-v-slipper-apeal-the-first-round/
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ROFL _ what a beauty _ armchair
hey armchair, l missed this on 1st read,
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About boeufblogginon
I am a frustrated cook who is also a lover of all sport, politics, film, TV, theatre and a standard poodle with attitude called Toss.
” frustrated cook “, LOL , seems like everyone can report news,
except journalist`s
Journo Cubs in Training 🙂
” It was my “OH For Fuck’s Sake” moment as I then, without the benefit of any notes, gave them a six point summary as to what had happened – all done and dusted before we hit the ground ”
Based upon Kitty’s usual posts someone probably farted in the lift.
” Its Our Ruddy Future T Shirts”
How can Rudd and his fans be any more obvious ?
This smart arse attempt at degrading all sports is going to finish Gillard.
… and the ones with umpteen houses don’t actually own them the bank does and soemone told them that renters would pay the mortgages off for them …
yes and they are the ones who are making housing unaffordable for the younger gen. Perhaps there should only be negative gearing allowed for newly built homes, how would that change things?
…but the boomers are the ones in Power and Control the wealth at the moment…
That’s kinda what I was trying to say at the time [not very well obviously!]
” frustrated cook “, LOL , seems like everyone can report news,
except journalist`s
BB also posted tweets from a sole parent with 11 tips on how to live on the pension.
…L. K. Giesen, with the twitter handle of @theriverfed, tweeted eleven rules for existing on the Sole Parent’s Pension. These individual tweets of her’s said more about what is being faced by single parents who are faced with this desperate struggle than anything else written or stated in the media today.
I felt moved to put her contributions on one page so others might read them. I hope she doesn’t mind but I found it compelling reading…
http://boeufblogginon.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/11-steps-for-existing-on-the-single-parents-pension-via-theriverfed/
This smart arse attempt at degrading all sports is going to finish Gillard.
Cleaning up sports is degrading it? Calm down, it’s only sport, just people playing games.
Imagine how unions must feel after the FWA/Thomsen investigation – no-one has been too outraged about all unions getting degraded because of the actions of a few.
” twitter handle of @theriverfed, tweeted eleven rules ”
exactly armchair, know nothing politicians and journalists spouting loudly about stuff they know nothing of, gives me the shits, and a lot of other folk
…but the boomers are the ones in Power and Control the wealth at the moment…
A bit like my parents’ generation when I was “behind” them …
‘…it’s only sport, just people playing games.’
Oh really, I thought it was an integral part of our culture.
” Imagine how unions must feel after the FWA/Thomsen investigation
I think a range of them will feel quite nervous about another independent inquiry.
The HSU probably paid their officials the equivalent of a CEO running a large public hospital.
I’d imagine the ANF probably pay their branch secretaries the equivalent of a Director of Nursing.
Public Servant Union officials will get SES level remuneration.
It’s all the stuff that the membership of unions should be specifically aware of.
I have no idea what union people get paid and no particular interest either. The HSU allegations are being dealt with and in the public arena [more than I can say for corporate malfeasance].
It’s all the stuff that the membership of unions should be specifically aware of.
Yes, and the sporting fans should be aware of doping and organised crime whenever there is professional sports, gambling and huge pay packets attached to sporting and players.
Oh really, I thought it was an integral part of our culture.
Sports yes, but doping, cheating? We pride ourselves on winning fair & square. Which is why this expose needs to be in the public domain. Surely this ‘scandal’ comes as no real surprise to people? There’s something wrong with you if you are so naive to think otherwise. People need to stop having the wool pulled over their eyes with jingoism and marketing.
Sports appears to have an elevated status in australian culture, I’d prefer if all great achievements [such as academic, scientific not ‘sports scientists’ who are unqualified people, volunteering, philanthropy] were equally regarded in high esteem. Our so-called cultural egalitarianism fails some.
What if Einstein had been born in Australia?
http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/egalitarianism.html
…Overall, Einstein probably would have found himself in the same position that almost all of Australia’s great inventors and noble prize winning scientists have found themselves in. Specifically, he would have been publicly ignored…
Slow here today, I’ll fill with a bit more of twitter and then off to work!
https://twitter.com/TheAviator1992/status/300061638227263489
https://twitter.com/vanOnselenP/status/300025287134023680
Sports appears to have an elevated status in australian culture,
Maybe, but the last 2 “Australians of the Year” have been Geoffrey Rush and Ita Butterose. Shocking decisions.
In moving away from the sporting icons, they’re choosing vacuous celebrities.
I actually think there should have been 2.Australans of the year.
Murdered young lad Daniel Morecombe’s parents.
Fuck the celebrities .
I’m starting to feel I’m posting in a surreal environment at TDT … I’m about to wholeheartedly agree with Wally ‘n’ Tom …
In moving away from the sporting icons, they’re choosing vacuous celebrities. ToM – √
I actually think there should have been 2.Australans of the year.
Murdered young lad Daniel Morecombe’s parents. Wally – √
I also agree about Daniel Morecombe’s parents…
It’s about time we recoginsed real people rather than so-called celebrities and “personalities” – who are these people anyway…?
Yesterday there was some “celebrity” signing autographs and stopping all the traffic outside David Jones in Melbourne yesterday.
I’ve got no idea who she was, but there were cameras everywhere, and when I caught a glimpse the first thought that came into my mind was “so who’s that vacuous airhead?”
Yowsa! Over at “Australian Independant Media Network” in the space of a few hours I’ve been called a “right wing commenter” and “a troll” and part of “Abbott’s cheer squad.”
Do you think maybe they don’t kindly to any criticism of the Prime Minister…?
Over at “Australian Independant Media Network” in the space of a few hours I’ve been called a “right wing commenter” and “a troll” and part of “Abbott’s cheer squad.”
How long did that take? LOL!
What amuses me is that we’ve got our own heavy RW barrackers here (who call us “barrackers” chuckle) … and don’t realise that we criticise BOTH fkn major parties …
“and don’t realise that we criticise BOTH fkn major parties …”
I know *groan*
Wally thinks we’re all communist or something…
It’s a pit really cos over at AIMN I had real hopes that Miglo was trying to create a truly independent/objective voice on the state of politics an current affairs in Australia.
It had a lot of potential, and I wanted to help.
But it’s clear it’s just Cafe 3 (as 7:30 calls it) or an adjunct of TPS.
Pity really. I was hoping that I would prove 7:30 wrong…..
Welcome to my frustration … it began with my stouches with Farnham Bear … ♬ all those years ago♫ … I don’t mind passion and loyalty one bit … but “playing” with the truth, fairness, justice and what is just plain bleedin’ obvious, just frustrates me no-end … as I’m sure you’ve noticed …
BTW, one of my first comments here was it would become CW II … pleased you were invited to comment though … as usual I was left off the “guest list” 😆 … you may recall FB did not want me posting at all at CW originally – so no invite :shock:… always amused me at the kerfuffle by ToM over stolen databases ..that I too was on … but conveniently removed from … chuckle … 😛
Now will my (cynical) comments on the first page of AIMN melt away …?
Well I had the clearly misguided idea the AIMN was going to at least attempt some sort of objectivity but the factually challenged Catching Up is laying down the law that it’s a left wing site and rent-a-crowd from TPS is there to back her up and attack anyone who cares to disagree….
Which makes me wonder, why would you bother setting the thing up in the first place?
Which makes me wonder, why would you bother setting the thing up in the first place?
Did you read my comments on, The Team?
I see Marcus is another Farnham Bear … you old, Lunar Right folk, you …
Reminds me of a beehive … bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz … independent my arse …
False and misleading advertising … I feel sorry for Migs actually (I do Migs, really) because his heart was in the right place … its just the rusted on New Labor party zombies that have put a spanner in the works … and, ToM’s, dot points of course … zzzzzzz 😦
Tomorra!
Baby Boomers; most selfish generation ever! In their wake they have left the world in chaos and have nothing to show for it but their own well being and a couple of generations of kids more selfish then them!
What continually amazes me it that people with strong political opinions don’t want them debated.
Back in the days when I took a more active interest, it was always the challenge and debate that was stimulating.
I don’t get people that don’t enjoy or appreciate politial challenge.
I dont for a moment think that Abbott would be a great PM.
But I can hope he can be
All I pray for is an improvement .
Its a shame about AIMN, a good idea gone bad.
Migs waxes lyrical on the 5th Estate but he’s miles from achieving it because they are all rusted on. The Daily Trash has a better chance of winning the 2015 Blog Awards for this part of the world than AIMN.
” Pity really. I was hoping that I would prove 7:30 wrong”
actually me too reb, but did notice the 5-estate guff and realized the rusted-on stuff continued pretty early at coffee-2
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The coffee-3 crack was at Barry Tuckers site which he has in his site title truth in media resource center, which l called bullshit on one of his posts. lt was clearly a lop-sided post, which didn`t prove his side of story, nor disprove the other side, which l pointed out. He was just blindly agitating for outrage to harass my ABC over the `r` typo in `Juliar`. He didn`t go for `balance` either by killing my comment which was critical.
l gotta give `turnleft2013` credit though, some time ago, when l pointed out how a post read, she added more info and updated her post. Much more ethical than what Tucker is doing in my book.
here is turnleft2013`s post l am talking about,
http://turnleft2013.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/did-an-abc-reporter-really-say-that-advocating-australia-break-international-laws/
*in turnleft`s theme, my first comment is at bottom of page
Happy Chinese New Year!
Yesterday we did a bit of shopping and bought an “Ultrasonic Atomiser Negative Ion Producing” device (no this is not a joke)..
It’s quite nice. It blows wafts of moisture into the air and is meant to counteract the bad effects of electrical equipment that produce lots of positive ions.
The idea is that it creates a more harmonious and healthier atmosphere and promotes better health and wellbeing with bonus good vibes.
http://www.ledesire.com/index.php/gallery/columns-4/item/82-5-in-1-ultrasonic-atomisers
Happy new year to you and all those in the celestial kingdom. Good luck with the vibe machine.
I’m being held in moderation at the new place for agreeing with Victoria… that Abbott’s Direct Action Plan is a load of crap.
Wonders never cease.
” better health and wellbeing with bonus good vibes. ”
until it beeps ! 🙂
LOL… 🙂
China closes for about 3 months* to celebrate the New Year. Those communists get too many holidays. They’re ruining the place.
*(well maybe 3 weeks)
Some short posts tell you a lot about people …
I dont for a moment think that Abbott would be a great PM.
TRANSLATION: I know he’s an arsehole I just want Gillard out …
But I can hope he can be
TRANSLATION: Please make may wish come true …
All I pray for is an improvement .
TRANSLATION: And Abbott is one of us (A Catlick Liberal)
(Shakes head)
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Happy Chinese New Year!
Year of the snake … how appropriate for Australian politics …
(no this is not a joke)..
Until … it creates a more harmonious and healthier atmosphere and promotes better health and wellbeing with bonus good vibes.
So it is a joke ..!
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*(well maybe 3 weeks)
So why say three months? 🙄
“So, how would you describe,ToM’s, writing style?”
“Creatively exaggerated” 🙂
Perhaps the TDT should have the byline”
A truly independent blog for all political recalcitrants … or sumfink … I can feel a competition coming on … 🙂
“A place where you don’t have to be bent to have a political bent”
Wh-a-a-at?
KISS … A blog for political recalcitrants …
(bent’s probably not a good word to use … too many connotations …) 😉
The Daily Trash – “We value your right to “Free Speech”, at only $2 per comment or the special introductory price of 10 for $18.”
Capitalist … troll …
Clever tho’ … 🙂
Apparently my ‘behaviour’ on the blogosphere is well known and I have ‘history’. This is news to me.
I accept the accolades and suggest, ever some humbly, that TDT be bent towards spoof.
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/
… be bent towards spoof.
But I’m not a spoof … I’m hetero!!
ToM’s a spoof, tho’ … 😉
***NEW IMPROVED***
The Daily Trash – now without unflushable turds!
its official, I’m banned from that other place.
Winter is coming and the age of disillusionment is ripe for laffs.
For example….
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-09/worriers-have-anxiety-over-climate-change3a-study/3880372/?site=southwestvic
Now banned from the cafe, although you may hear rumours that I’m only held in moderation ….for simply ever.
If Treeman also disappears then we’ll have to consider our future.
This proposed Amendment is beyond me … it will “give” something that working mothers already have “the right to ask for part-time work” … but if the business doesn’t have any part-time work to offer nothing will happen … duh!
Why do politicians and public service “dabble”in business … none of them could run a shoe shine stand … not one!
And then this is pure speculation on the part of the reporter/editor/news.com …
Why is it “clear”? To “whom”?
If Tony Abbott & The Acolytes are
smart … clever mmm … can figure it outare advised properly, they’ll just leave it alone … anyone with any sense (and there is a few out there) will see the Amendment for what it is pure, unadulterated BS … and probably giggle themselves silly … and the ALP will have a duty of care issue if people fall over themselves laughing …Whose the Minister reponsible for this load of bollocks?
http://www.news.com.au/business/worklife/gillards-pitch-to-working-mothers/story-e6frfm9r-1226574524187
“If Treeman also disappears then we’ll have to consider our future.”
Maybe you could elope…?
Maybe you could elope…?
Make sure you carry out due diligence though, egg …
We could, but I’d rather take him home first.
Moderation has been lifted, victory is ours.
“If you want to keep a secret, you must also hide it from yourself.”
― George Orwell, 1984
Moderation has been lifted, victory is ours.
FMD! 🙄
Why do politicians and public service “dabble”in business … none of them could run a shoe shine stand … not one!
agree, most seem to be lawyers with very limited experience in life and really shouldn`t be meddling in anything
” FMD! ”
teabags place a much higher value on `spouting-nonsense` than `learning-facts` TB, (that`s why arse-whoop them so often)
correction (that`s why WE arse-whoop them so often)
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sbs1 jinjirri cheese FOOD RECALL bacterial, sold by woolworths `the fresh bug people`
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sbs1 holden gets more welfare for their corporate profit making enterprise, from SA and VIC govt`s
COMING SOON: THE KILLER CHEESE OF DEATH!!
new post due out shortly….
Beware legal eagles … sreb …:shock: although everybody else posts BS why not you?
Some of you here may think that I “defend” the ADF … I only do that when I read “ignorance” of the ADF and its role …
FYI this is how my son was treated … and many others who are injured or wounded in YOUR ADF …
http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/former-senior-sailor-has-accused-the-defence-department-of-delaying-compensation-as-he-battles-slow-and-painful-death/story-e6frfkp9-1226574515461
Pollies are happy to shake their hands as they train and go off to do their bidding … but VERY quickly wipe their hands if things go wrong …
Ausytralians should be ashamed of the way many service personnel AND their families and CHILDREN are treated …
There are real arseholes running Comcare but the ADF Compensation unit in particular …
Ausytralians should be ashamed of the way many service personnel AND their families and CHILDREN are treated
(and adfa female recruits)
Fully agree TB, it looks like the navy are giving kurt the james-hardie treatment dealt out to bernie
unscrupulous people who get involved in selling the ingredients will sell them food that is different from what the food
http://robertkyriakides.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/horse-meat-in-ready-meals/
Giddy-Up!
teabags place a much higher value on `spouting-nonsense` than `learning-facts`
Hmmm….
Held in moderation again at the cafe, so the games up.
The Cafe needs to maintain standards if it is to remain the home of rational and civilised polticial discourse. Obviously those with form need to be banned or at least moderated. Those preferring a degenerate cacophony can always come here where a few sane voices are drowned out by immature ranters.
Bring your hoons over here and we’ll have it out.
Yesterday we did a bit of shopping and bought an “Ultrasonic Atomiser Negative Ion Producing” device (no this is not a joke).
An electronic water feature thingy?
I’m more used to seeing the home and manual varieties 🙂
A bit like my parents’ generation when I was “behind” them …
The exception behind that the boomers are the first generation to leave the next worse off – careers, housing, global financial markets, enormous cost of combating climate change, environmental degradation through the rampant digging up and selling off of anything deemed of value to ‘teh market’.
Sparta and I don’t agree on many things, but his comment above says similar.
The other day a friend had his shed broken into and all his tools stolen, so he went straight to the aboriginal group he thought responsible.
“You have your sacred sites, which I respect, my shed is my sacred site and I want my tools back. The next day they were returned and no questions asked.”
My comment just went straight to the spaminator, are you able to retrieve it for me reb? Ta!
The Cafe needs to maintain standards if it is to remain the home of rational and civilised polticial discourse.
Standards are for like minded people who like to think they are better than others and are uncomfortable with accepting differences. I guess the nazi’s said similar about the jews [oops is that a godwin? – bloody standards!].
Was it Groucho or Mark Twain who said “I wouldn’t want to join a club that would have me as a member”?
I don’t know why, but I always seem to end up in the ‘wrong crowd’, is it me?
Minipiglo needs to understand a fundamentalist’s desire to worship at the feet of their Monckton God. Minipiglo is impinging on my religious freedoms.
“I don’t know why, but I always seem to end up in the ‘wrong crowd’, is it me?”
Not you too….??
“Standards are for like minded people who like to think they are better than others and are uncomfortable with accepting differences.”
That depends on the standards. The standards at the Cafe seem to me to relate to conduct, not content.
“Minipiglo is impinging on my religious freedoms.”
It appears that logic is impinging on your prejudices, but you seem both oblivious and impervious to it.
Not you too….??
And me … I hate conforming … oh, wait?
“The standards at the Cafe seem to me to relate to conduct, not content.”
Indeed. One falls out favour very quickly if you don’t agree with Gillard=good, Abbott=bad simplistic mindset.
It’s fascinating in that they often moan about the “groupthink of the mainstream media” yet fail to see that they’re guilty of exactly the same thing.
What more can I say …
Blood hell TB that’s a bit scary! 😯
Minipiglo is committing a hate crime against my faith based logic and is implying I have prejudices.
Well, as one who remains specifically banned at the Café, I rarely bother to look these days. Last time I did, I noticed a range of poor spellers with bad grammar, hurling insults at one another.
I suppose it works for some.
Miglo’s new site has the (as yet unfulfilled) potential for a lift in quality.
‘ who remains specifically banned at the Café, ‘
I know how you feel Tom.
The coffee sippers seem to have heard it all before, maybe we should add another chapter to the handbook.
I almost wet myself laughing at this yesterday
http://iainhall.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/gillards-downfall/
I almost wet myself laughing at this last month
http://www.theglobalmail.org/
“I noticed a range of poor spellers with bad grammar, hurling insults at one another. ”
Yes
Its actually very rough and rude and ill mannered over there.
That’s why I prefer it here
LOL
Minipiglo is impinging on my religious freedoms.
Don’t think so, perhaps more the category of:
…teabags place a much higher value on `spouting-nonsense` than `learning-facts` TB…
“…unscrupulous people who get involved in selling the ingredients will sell them food that is different from what the food…”
“…COMING SOON: THE KILLER CHEESE OF DEATH!!…”
Anything goes in making a profit. The result of market influence and the demands of capitalism, the lassez faire approach that govts, despite the GFC still cave in to. Minimal or no/self regulation will always allow it to happen. Especially in combination with industry lobbying govt re labelling requirements. I’m a big believer in knowing exactly what is in the food we eat all the way down the food chain. The excuse from industry [which govt allows against the public interest & good] is the cost of complying. They do not want us to know what rubbish they stick in the food we eat, what they don’t stick in [the ingredient we think we are purchasing] and where it comes from.
“I’m a big believer in knowing exactly what is in the food we eat all the way down the food chain.”
Giddy Up…………………………..Hi Ho Silver
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/horsemeat-scandal-spreads-across-europe/story-e6frg6so-1226575093628
Mr MacKenzie has a Veterans gold health card so his health care is free, but the Navy and the government have refused to pay him compensation…
…His wife Sue and his two sons have been provided compensation payments…
TB, I can’t understand how they can pay compensation to the family members, presumably because of the affect of his illness upon them [caring for him etc] and their finances, but then not acknowledge their actual employee – what weird logic is that? I would have thought that they couldn’t compensate others for something before the primary applicant’s case and outcome is determined.
I think defence gets away with far too much secrecy and non disclosure re ‘internal’ investigations etc. the results of which are never made public. The ADF is another “too big to fail” organisation which gets huge protection by governments and bailed out by the taxpayer.
Same with the women who have made sexual assault claims, their careers finished and their mental health poor, yet the male perpetrators and their silent colleagues continue on with their careers unencumbered [and are promoted to positions of power and authority].
Just not right.
‘ Anything goes in making a profit. The result of market influence and the demands of capitalism, ‘
I agree, but leftwing media are bias against the corporations that feed the world for the slimmest of profits. A little horse never hurt anybody. We did take off the saddles.
Giddy Up…………………………..Hi Ho Silver
yep, we just have to make the time to make our own vege gardens [big cost now that water has been privatised and we pay for every drop, even as we flood] buy fresh and cook it ourselves.
Water is necessary for basic human survival and I am strongly against people having to pay for such essentials that nature provides for free [even minerals are supposedly still owned by all of us and loaned to the big miners to profiteer from].
Another impost on the next generation by the BB’s
[BTW, I had a reply to you re that subject TB but it’s in the spaminator awaiting reb’s assistance in fishing out].
The ADF is another “too big to fail” organisation which gets huge protection by governments and bailed out by the taxpayer.
Along with the police force [and finance of course] – the systems that governments the world over rely upon to protect themselves from civil disobedience and uprising.
The revolution is coming!
“………..A little horse never hurt anybody………………”
It actually has a very strong taste……………….somewhat “gamey”
So a little of it is quite enough
I agree, but leftwing media are bias against the corporations that feed the world for the slimmest of profits.
Slimmest of profits?
Big Grain Companies Reap Profits As Global Food Prices Soar And Poor Go Hungry
http://www.ibtimes.com/big-grain-companies-reap-profits-global-food-prices-soar-poor-go-hungry-757267
‘ The revolution is coming! ‘
So Bolshie, will you be riding or eating your horse in this revolution
“………..A little horse never hurt anybody………………”
… but brings back some awful memories for people who starved in Europe during all the wars … I know my grandparents used to go very pale and reach at the thought of it … (after WWI) … and my mother would never touch the stuff after WWII … its abit like asking people in the UK to eat dog … something they happily do in Asia, I’m told …
… the real reason for a EU … it just needs to tie up its finances and agree on a EU language … forming, storming, norming, performing and adjourning … I’d say the EU is “relatively” close to the “norming” phase … its taken centuries to reach the “end” of the storming stage …
… the real reason for a EU …REDUCING/ELIMINATING MILITARY CONFLICT
I don’t agree with a beautiful horse’s ‘spirit’ being broken and ridden. They should be allowed the freedom from human arses. Why can’t we just enjoy these magnificent creatures as pets, companions and wild animals, without having to conquer them?
[toiletboss doesn’t appear to share my sentiments re the horse]
‘ Global Food Prices Soar ‘
Horse meat in Romania seems to be defying global market trends
[toiletboss doesn’t appear to share my sentiments re the horse]
Have I missed something? When did Ser Tee post?
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“Minipiglo is committing a hate crime against my faith based logic and is implying I have prejudices.”
Egg, there is no crime involved here. I am merely contrasting a well-run and civilised blog with this sanctuary for the scatalogically scatterbrained.
‘ Have I missed something? ‘
Don’t you always? Well not anymore TB. I can offer you a deal on unbranded TV dinners with 75% off the price for pallet quantities. You can choose from your favorites, Lasagne, Mousaka, and many other meaty varieties.
Ros bates is not in trouble for not detailing her cosy dinners with industry groups because they weren’t lobbying, it was ‘pre-lobbying’.
Have I missed something? When did Ser Tee post?
He’s commented a couple of times about his hatred of horses [I think it must be a childhood trauma or something, probably bucked him off! 😉 ]
comment freed from the spaminator Kitty..
Minipiglo is demonising my faith based science with factual bigotry, which the last time I checked, was a hate crime.
I am merely contrasting a well-run and civilised blog with this sanctuary for the scatalogically scatterbrained.
Then just be aware that I post at BOTH blogs and take offence at your “group wide” insults … to date I have avoided involvement … I have buried the hatchet with some folk at CW … I’d like to keep it that way …
You are doing exactly what you accuse others of doing … stirring the pot … post nicely here, please …
As for the regulars here … you know the rule with trolls … ya don’t feed ’em … well not for long anyway …
Don’t try ‘n’ pick a fight here, piglet … just sayin’ …
Hi all. Just dropping in to say that Minipiglo is neither I or any of the authors or admin from CW. I note that he can cause some angst, and for that I can understand your responses. I’m not impressed that someone purports to be me and comes here in an attempt to inflame issues unnecessarily.
Cheers,
Migs.
G’day, Migs, yes, I for one, know that its not you …
… I have a suspicion I know who it is though and so do you … you may recall I like the “challenge” of “outing” sock puppets by their phrasing, grammar and general ability to play with words … as Wally 🙂 and a couple of others around here know … 😉
You of all people know I don’t flare quite as much as I used to … but I confess the “flame” hasn’t gone out yet … and I don’t want it ignited unnecessarily … just a waste of time really …
I try and stay out of shitfights … especially when I think both sides are equally wrong … 🙂
Miglo, you are my inspiration but I am not purporting to be you – more of a threesome, actually. I have nothing but kind words and deep admiration for your blog. I’ll meet your at the harbour, darling – all for one and one for two! As for inflaming issues, someone as smart and hot as you are is bound to inflame both personal passions and political issues, eh?
“………….as Wally 🙂 and a couple of others around here know … ;-)………..”
Tis not moi
And I dont have any clue as to who it is as I pay very little attention to its posts.
Hi TB, I have my suspicions who it is. I noted that Minipiglo reappeared as soon as el gordo started her bullshit trouble making again. Minipiglo himself is a blogger by another name who has a history of trouble making too. Reb should be able to quickly identify who it is by the ISP address.
Too many 2 and 3 syllable words to be egg!
But here everyone’s welcome.
Don’t be like that Miglo. I thought you were done with betrayal and we could be one happy little family again!
Not me either, by the way.
If anyone is in any doubt as tto why Europe is in a mess have a look at this report from AAP and the complexity of the foodsupply chain in the horsemeat drama……
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AAP 11/02/2013 17:05PM AEST
“French retailers Auchan, Casino, Carrefour, Cora, Monoprix and Picard announced on Sunday they were withdrawing products provided by Findus and French producer Comigel over the horsemeat concerns.
The Findus meals were assembled by Comigel using meat that was provided by Spanghero, a meat-processing company also based in France. Comigel supplies products to companies in 16 European countries.
Spanghero in turn is said to have obtained the meat from Romania via a Cypriot dealer who had subcontracted the deal to a trader in The Netherlands.
A Romanian food industry official also pointed the finger of blame at the French importer, saying it was up to that company to verify the quality of the meat.”
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How many middlemen are involved in the EU ?
Yes Tom – 3 syllables good. Good things come in threes – like MiniPiglo.
But I have no wish to cause offence so I shall retire from the fray – you won’t have MiniPiglo to kick around here any more!
In departing I note that the denizens here have things to learn from the Cafe. And perhaps Miglo could learn not to feed the trolls.
‘Too many 2 and 3 syllable words to be egg!’
Thanx ToM, correct, its not me.
Thought I felt the presence of ToSY on the CO2 thread.
According to a new U.N. report, the global warming outlook is much worse than originally predicted.
Which is pretty bad when they originally predicted it would destroy the planet.
😯
I love all animals…but horses are temporarily motile only they fulfill their journey to the craypot.
…”until they fulfill..”
They are lower than bacteria on the ladder of worth.
I note that the denizens here have things to learn from the Cafe. And perhaps Miglo could learn not to feed the trolls.
or perhaps …
… I note that the denizens at CWI & CW II have things to learn from here. And they could learn that life is not black and white but a multitude of shades … no-one is ever right nor are they always wrong … arrogance is the darkest of fogs …
BTW, piglet, thanks for the “clue” … and the farewell adieu … not all folk are smart … nor appreciate the art … 😆
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‘Tis not moi .. – Don’t flatter yersel’, Wally …
Which is pretty bad when they originally predicted it would destroy the planet.
Don’t tell, egg! Hey! That post should be on CO2 n U!
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G’day Ser Tee! Depression just setting in … just read Ser Kevan surrounded by boys and girls with daggers!
Thank goodness for, KL, and her gift of ebooks! Houseboat next month so I’ll have to load up the Sony eReader … the girls love fishing … the blokes — don’t! What a topsy turvy world I live in … nothing is the “norm” … from the day my son (7yo) was marked wrong when asked who mowed the lawn and he said … “Mum” … the teacher was wrong … I was hardly home!
Fkn stereotypes … that’s why the schools these days are populated by mostly female teachers (can’t find a %age anywhere) and that’s not good … children need the perspective of both genders …
“life is not black and white but a multitude of shades”
Indeed, a point I tried to explain over at CW II.
But they prefer to see things in a much more simplistic fashion. ie; you’re either with us, or you’re against us…
🙄
But they prefer to see things in a much more simplistic fashion.
thets fukkin bolshit an youse nows it
(just thought I’d provide the reply that you would have received if you had posted it there)
Gotta love the Cleganes…
For example, this remained uncorrected, and I know that it is bad form to engage I interblog inflammation (which actually isn’t my intentions), but I actually think some standards need to be enforced, and not just applied to el gordo.
”treeParrot man , stop posting utter Fucking bollocks about the nbn and 4g wireless. Not only are you way out of your depth, any fucking idiot that says that any wireless technology gets even remotely close to the actual though packet speed is a bullshiting moron. So your oposed to the NDIS because liberals are not blessed with such compassionate vision, your an asshole, sick of your lying bullshit.”
If that blog is to provide a forum for sensible exchange of differing opinion, the administrators should be quite rigorous in their deletion of that type of nonsense.
ToM … once again you’re TROLLING … give it a rest … it was you that said you’d like to see the AIMW experiment work … and then you come out with damaging BS … make your mind up … surfer boy …
“thets fukkin bolshit an youse nows it”
You forgot to add “troll” and “Abbott lover” Tom…
Gotta love the Cleganes…
Yep! My guess too … but which one … and who is “really” running Varys … book six???? this’ll go to book sixty …
Had a thought this morning (I knew I’d finish I&F this PM – I read first thing in the morning 😉 and every afternoon – half hour each) … if I died tomorrow there would be so many loose ends I haven’t tied … that’s Game of Thrones … it never ends! In Westeros (the West??) or in our era … clever tie-up for me …
And of course the Blackwatch holding the Wall … lol …
You forgot to add “troll” and “Abbott lover” Tom…
FUCK I missed Abbott Lover fanboi …
There is no shame in not knowing. The problem arises when irrational thought and attendant behavior fill the vacuum left by ignorance. ~ Neil deGrasse Tyson
Perception is up for grabs, and truth seems to be the one precious thing, that no one wants anyone to find. ~ ???
I reckon Jon’s going to ‘inhabit’ Ghost before the life drains out.
TB,
I agreed with Tom that I’d like to see AIMN succeed.
That was the reason why i made contact with Migs when it was in its early stages. I was keen to be involved to help make it a reality.
But since then, along with a few others, I became concerned that it was just turning into yet another Abbott bitch fest, and a Gillard love-in.
Subsequently I asked Migs to remove me as an author as I no longer felt that the prevailing mindset was one that I wanted to be aligned with.
Since then I’ve faced accusations from Miglo himself, without any foundation I might add, that my only intention was to “destabilise” the site from the outset, which couldn’t be further from the truth.
It seems that the more some claim to be “independent/objective” the more they just confirm their partisan allegiance.
Pity really. It could’ve been so much more…
Perception is up for grabs, and truth seems to be the one precious thing, that no one wants anyone to find. ~ ???
Indeed, Ser Tee, I’m quickly reaching the conclusion that we plebs are becoming harbingers of the people we most despise on either side of politics … football barrackers for our “team” rather than messengers of reason for the millions in the stand … we need to be able to say … I like that policy and not that one … you did that well … that was a balls up … without having to defend the bleedin’ obvious to the 80% all the time …
Strongly agree with that, TB.
The bipolar cultism displayed on aligned political blogs (& in the wider media) makes my skin crawl.
The whole notion of ‘My Party, right or wrong’…makes me gag.
I don’t really get why seemingly intelligent people so easily make subjugants of themselves.
Arrogance and ignorance is a dangerous mix.
I really hope AIMN succeeds, genuinely. It has some quality people writing there, and could fill a gap, and I think Miglo has put in a lot of effort.
I pointed out that specific comment on the site (at the time) as I think it was indicative of some of the exchanges. I doubt whether that’s the tone anticipated by the various authors who go to the trouble of writing some very thought provoking articles.
I might post my thoughts over there later.
Pity really. It could’ve been so much more…
sreb,
no need to explain to me – I suspected – predicted the outcome – and watched it unfold – my first comment was “what’s new” (read between the lines) … and my scepticism was proven … and I don’t blame, Migs, for that at all … I just knew that the “followers” would be essentially the same … I was just over there, reading the last of the posts on Victoria’s thread (very well written BTW) … what it needed was someone to write a similar “open letter” to the PM, Julia Gillard …
bothall leaders in OUR Parliament need to be scrutinised the way Victoria ripped into the Leader of the Opposition … independent should mean – no bias – all points of view … pityNeither quote was mine, btw.
I just read them in comments somewhere & thought them relevant.
True Tom and TB, I’m particularly fond of John Lord’s writing, but when Victoria suggested that Tony Abbott deliberately planned his National Press Club address to coincide with the arrest of Craig Thomson, well, let’s just say, that that confirmed in my mind that she is a nutter.
But imagine the outrage from rent-a-crowd when I pointed that out… 🙄
… thought them relevant …
And they are as usual … its just your music that’s shite! 😆
“its just your music that’s shite”
Amen.
Haha…I like that noone likes it. It just makes me appreciate it even more. 😉
I get that a lot. 😆
why am I not surprised…??
I might post my thoughts over there later.
If you can that’s great … no-one knows more than our own Blogmeaster how much effort must have gone into AIMN … the concept is great … just that instead of evolving as intended, it devolved into CW II …
I’ve only ever written a couple of thread headers …
I did notice that you two are not the only dissenters …
I always think I had an advantage growing up, my family always argued politics at the dinner table … my Dad was Labour later Labor and a union rep my Mum a stanch Liberal (“because my dad” (my grandad) “foeced me to vote Labour”) … my sister is a Catlick Liberal and I’m a Labor socialist (true sense of the word, Wally) … but I believe in the capitalist system just not the corrupt version that my sister and her (my ex) friends wallow in …
However, when I studied contract law I had a great lecturer who taught me to argue the OTHER person’s point of view FIRST and then develop my own … not much more complicated than debating … guess why I post her … 🙂
Off to play with my new microphone … seriously … check it out
AIMN is a good idea and full marks to Migs for organising it…. but it cannot be anything but a chat room without a diversity of views.
John Lord has promise with interesting posts.
And just for the record, I didn’t say JC was an alien from the Pleladies system.
Ya daft buggers. reb is MiniPiglo.
😯
I doubt that.
Minipiglo said – “3 syllables good. Good things come in threes – like MiniPiglo”
…and reb would know that’s 4.
Fascinating.
In the space of 24 hours I’ve been accused of being Minipiglo, ToM, el gordo and someone else who I can’t quite remember at the moment.
I have enough trouble just trying to raise a breath to express my own meagre point of view without the burden of you lot as well….
“reb would know that’s 4.”
Correct. Very astute of you there ToM.
Awwww …
BTW, if you read the posts the clues should knock you out … your secret is safe for the moment – piglet … 😉
Reb would make a good politician, notice how he didn’t answer the question. Masterly.
What fkn question?
Ya daft buggers. reb is MiniPiglo.
Och, aye …
G’night …
Anyway I think its 7.30.
The Pope has just handed in 3 weeks notice.
That long!
Its unheard of.
He got sick of all the bad Newspolls.
Lets start a campaign
“Pell for Pope”
So after the now confirmed failure of their much redesigned Mining Tax how many Lefties will
1) defend commitments of expenditure when the revenue is not guaranteed
2) continue to support Swan when he is actually the weakest link in the government and we should thank the rest of the economy for having the strength to carry on despite his best efforts to fuck it.
The rusted ons will have to take it on the chin, joolya won’t be going into battle with the miners before the election. They will spin it gently.
‘Ultimately the super profits from mining companies will be subjected to tax, but for the first couple of years at least these will be shielded by inserting an ability to include deductions on the revalued assets in their iron ore and coal portfolios.’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/miners-hoard-credits-to-avoid-resources-tax-20130212-2eb6v.html#ixzz2KiIrtqMK
Miglo talks about the direction of AIMN…
http://theaimn.com/2013/02/12/conservatives-wanted/
I see you’ve already found it.
… we should thank the rest of the economy for having the strength to carry on despite his best efforts to fuck it.
I know who really fucks with the economy … and it ain’t government …
http://www.news.com.au/business/companies/cba-makes-37bn-profit-in-six-months/story-fnda1bsz-1226576734092
A friend just told me about Cracked …had me laughing, but comments lack wit.
http://www.cracked.com/
Ever wonder what’s happening to your kids at school … we do …
… the latest learning monstrosity is called a, “noun group” … check out why each generation has more trouble than the last in simple communication …
(secondary nouns behave exactly like adjectives, apparently … so call it an adjective!!)
ie the beer glass … glass is the noun and beer is the secondary noun !!!!
Confused? It seems the teachers are, the kids are … and so are we …
Read more here (if you dare!)
http://linguapress.com/grammar/grammar3.htm
Yeah, somewhere between now & the early 80’s, the fuckers changed BODMAS to BEDMAS 😯 too!
My (not so)youngster started highschool a couple of weeks ago; I’m finding out all kinds of revisionist crap currently.
beer-glass
it`s one item, it`s a noun, and the system is idiotic
But would it still be a beer-glass if it is never used for beer…?
Would it be unfulfilled…?
Another term I really fkn hate is the term used by market research people to describe parents who no longer have children at home – “empty nesters.”
How fkn patronising is that…??!!
It’s like your sole purpose in life is to have offspring, and once they’ve upped and left, your purpose is fulfilled and now you’re “empty” or “lacking.”
It shits me no end.
‘…your purpose is fulfilled and now you’re “empty” or “lacking.”
Funny, I assumed it had something to do with more space in the nest.
Funny, I assumed it had something to do with more space in the nest.
Me too, egg, but the fledglings, fledglings keep flying back! Luv it …
BTW, an ex (lo-o-o-o-ng story) old friend’s daughter and her lesbian partner have just had a liitle boy …
… the irony of that is that our “friends” now have three grandsons … she was the mother of two daughters and went to a great trouble to lecture The Minister and I that boys were such a problem to bring up … we had a pigeon pair … she now thinks boys are “wonderful” … shallow is, as shallow does …
I luv karma too … 🙂
BTW, sreb, most nests these days are rarely empty according to my anecdotal info …
I take your point though …
Empty nesters are encouraged to ‘downsize’, but I refuse. Enjoying the space too much.
” term used by market research people ”
reb, the term that shits me, is `nimby`s
(Not In My Back Yard)
by all means corporate`s, stick your fcuking nuke reactor near our home *snark*