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Rooty Reconnaissance Delivers Poll Bounce for Gillard!

March 12, 2013

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Labor has bounced back in the polls following the Prime Minister’s week long stint at the Rooty Hill RSL.

Today’s Newspoll, published in The Australian, puts Labor within striking distance of winning an election and has Julia Gillard back in front of Tony Abbott as preferred Prime Minister.

The results will no doubt confound many of the so-called “Gillard apologists” who recently declared that Newspoll was “colluding” with elements from within the mainstream media to bring down the Gillard government using fabricated polls that painted the government in a less than favourable light.

However today’s Newspoll, published in the “hate media” shows a significant bounce for the PM as preferred Prime Minister over Tony Abbott and in the crucial two-party preferred stakes.

The poll shows support for Labor climbed three points to 34 per cent while the Coalition fell three points to 44 per cent. The Greens were steady on 11 per cent.

In two-party terms, the Coalition’s 10-point lead a fortnight ago has narrowed to four points with the Opposition ahead 52 to 48 per cent.

The poll showed Ms Gillard regaining her lead over Tony Abbott as preferred prime minister, 42 to 38 per cent.

It also showed that former prime minister Kevin Rudd remains a far more popular leader than Julia Gillard, offering the potential to deliver a significant boost in support for Labor.

 

 

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  1. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 12, 2013 10:03 am

    Following on from the thrashings they have received in NSW, Queensland and WA and what looks likely to be its annihilation in September I increasingly get the feeling that Gillard will be the Australian Labor Party’s last ever PM.

    I think they might be headed for such a disaster that a full rethink will occur and grassroots reform may see it move away from the ensconced control of the Unions after September. When that will occur who knows but how can Unions control the largest Social Democratic Party in the Nation with their own dwindling membership base.

    Some day post September they will cast aside brand name “Labor” and move to a more social democrat progressive formula and a name that also embraces small business and workers. Perhaps they might even try and paint the LNP as just pro big business and the wealthy.

    They got do something.

    PS: The guy that runs Newspoll was on the radio this morning pointing out that the latest poll was actually within the margin of error of the previous poll which was he said something being overlooked by people with specific agendas.

    So this latest poll is possibly no different to the previous one.

  2. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 12, 2013 10:57 am

    It’s a News Ltd conspiracy to keep Gillard in the job and therefore allow Abbott an easy run into the Lodge.

    The only other explanation is that it is factual, and that can’t be true.

  3. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 12, 2013 11:48 am

    “Gillard will be the Australian Labor Party’s last ever PM.”

    That is extremely unlikely. She may even win the next election.

    “So this latest poll is possibly no different to the previous one.”

    Or vice versa.

    The polls show the electorate is quite volatile. Each time Gillard stuffs up and they harden against her and she goes down in the polls. Then comes the realisation that getting rid of Labor means Abbott as PM.

  4. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 12, 2013 12:29 pm

    The poll bounce had nothing to do with the latest coalition ‘kick em in the guts’ hate-thought bubble on asylum seekers?

    It’s good that one National MP has a sense of decency [mal washer too]. This teabagger influence over australian politics has to be condemned and thrown out of the country. The money poured into the bernardi led front groups who then run people around the country inciting hatred. The public incited to vicious sexism and misogyny, absolute hatred and contempt, we’ve never witnessed anything like this before. I blame the imported teabagger influence and the deliberately targeted abbott/newsltd [weekly strategy meetings remember?] campaign to ‘go her’ on personality and encourage the ongoing personal abuse. It has been an orchestrated campaign of personal vilification, a hallmark of liberal party politics.

    Gillard’s public demeanor has been dignified and above reproach, the newsltd media have portrayed her in the worst possible light, magnifying all accidents and hysterically displaying the offensive sexism and chauvinism that has incited a modern day pillorying and public humiliation. All that while minimising all gaffes and the ugliness of abbott, trying to portray him as a statesman rather than the thug, bully and arrogant and privileged, sexist, that he is. Let’s not forget the huge media resources devoted to improving abbot’s public image with women, the ridiculous st.margie/daughters and credlin/ivf – don’t say newsltd isn’t running interference for abbott.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/nationals-mp-darren-chester-says-critics-who-launch-personal-attacks-on-pm-should-lay-off/story-fn59niix-1226595389263

    …Mr Chester said members of parliament must show the way, by focusing on policies not personalities.

    “I think we need to focus on the policies and I think the Australian people can learn a lot more about a dignified debate. People in this place have to lead the way,” he said.

    Mr Chester said some of the comments about Ms Gillard made by members of the public were the sort of things people wouldn’t like said about their mothers or sisters.

    He said the office of prime minister should command more respect.

    Labor’s primary vote jumped three points to 34 per cent in the latest Newspoll, while the Coalition’s dropped three points to 44 per cent.

    After a tough week campaigning in western Sydney, Ms Gillard also regained the lead over Tony Abbott as preferred prime minister.

    She’s now rated as preferred PM by 42 per cent over voters to Tony Abbott’s 38 per cent.

  5. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 12, 2013 12:52 pm

    Thanks for that KL. I was getting depressed about the prospect of Abbott as PM but your unhinged ranting spite makes him look positively classy!

  6. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 12, 2013 1:38 pm

    Gillard’s public demeanor has been dignified and above reproach

    So? She has a façade, Gillard has proven to be dishonest and the electorate is smart enough to distain this. Abbott too.

    the ridiculous st.margie/daughters and credlin/ivf

    Abbott seems to cop flack for some comments he made about his daughters. The comments seemed to me to be reasonable, coming from a father.

    I have a daughter, I also come from a time when youths preyed on young women. I don’t want my daughter (or anyone else’s) competing for male popularity on the basis of sexual favours.

  7. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 12, 2013 2:52 pm

    Abbott is very old-school when it comes to that, ToM. Unfortunately society is oriented to the sexual exploitation of the young. Popular culture speaks loudly in this regard and the kids are eager to listen. The schools prepare them well for sex without consequence – by the time they are twelve or thirteen they are educated, immunised, rubberised and ready to jump in at the deep end and liveblog the whole experience. And with the ready availability of exotic porn, they are much more skillful these days. Besides, if they can’t remember what happened on Saturday night they can always get some RU 486 on Sunday morning.

    And any parent who wants to point to the psychological studies which show that early promiscuity is negatively correlated with stable long-term relationships is just a vile sexist troglodyte. The Emily’s Listers will swarm and flame you for even thinking the thought that your daughter might be better off waiting until she is ready to enter into a stable long-term relationship.

  8. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 12, 2013 5:24 pm

    Yes SB, there is enough pressure on young people without them believing they should be lured into early sexual adventure. I recall the interview with Abbott where he made the comment.

    He could have obfuscated, but he answered the question in a way that most fathers would. I didn’t find the answer to be evidence of misogyny or “icky” (as one blogger continually calls it) or anything other than a father having a sense of protection over teenage daughters, which is hardly inappropriate.
    —————-
    And given the events of the weekend on Victoria’s coast, with a couple of drownings, I also hope that we’ve heard the last of the disparagement of those that wear surf lifesaving kits.

    One of them involved people in my club.

  9. March 12, 2013 5:43 pm

    ” Newspoll CEO Martin O’Shannessy said the government still faced a mammoth task to win the September-14 election. “Julia Gillard has had a number of bounces that haven’t been sustained,” he told Sky News.”
    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/nationals-mp-darren-chester-says-critics-who-launch-personal-attacks-on-pm-should-lay-off/story-e6frg12c-1226595389263
    =
    says the dude who reckoned Mr-Rabbit would get 79-seats in 2010

  10. March 12, 2013 5:50 pm

    ” Assistant Treasurer David Bradbury took a swipe at the media, describing as “hysterical” their response to Labor’s prospects in recent “ Last_three_years.
    =
    Let`s face it armchair, if your kids behaved like teabag media, you would wash their mouth out with soap, or take the red cordial off them.
    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/nationals-mp-darren-chester-says-critics-who-launch-personal-attacks-on-pm-should-lay-off/story-e6frg12c-1226595389263

  11. March 12, 2013 5:57 pm

    ” Mr Chester said members of parliament must show the way, by focusing on policies not personalities. “I think we need to focus on the policies and _”
    ls katters kids breathing down the nationals necks in some of their `dairy` seats.?
    =
    ” I think the Australian people can learn a lot more about a dignified debate. People in this place have to lead the way,” “
    ls this hinting that Mr-Rabbit comes across as a stunt-bully.? and not really having any leadership or policies.?
    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/nationals-mp-darren-chester-says-critics-who-launch-personal-attacks-on-pm-should-lay-off/story-e6frg12c-1226595389263

  12. March 12, 2013 6:23 pm

    fake or not, she`s probably correct

  13. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 12, 2013 6:43 pm

    Interestingly Abbott has changed since his parliamentary pussy-whipping by Gillard. Most of us, at one stage or other, have been set upon by a howling lunatic trying to cover their own stinking hypocrisy by shrieking lies and insults at us. The fact that he Abbott a very poor communicator. Maybe he should follow Gillard’s example and polish up his faux outrage.

  14. March 12, 2013 6:56 pm

    heads-up feminista
    .
    ” Gillard’s story. Any poison in her political chalice has been the product of her own leadership. “
    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/thestump/2013/03/08/after-julia-gillard-thoughts-on-international-womens-day/
    .
    seems sharika isn`t impressed with joolya`s flavor of feminism

  15. TB Queensland permalink
    March 12, 2013 7:58 pm

    Hear! Hear!

    AN OPPOSITION MP is calling for an end to the nasty name-calling and personal attacks on Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

    The Nationals’ back bencher Darren Chester said he was shocked by the “increasingly personal and vicious nature” of some comments from members of the public and urged an improvement in standards of political debate.

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/no-more-juliar-pms-office-demands-respect/story-fncynjr2-1226595426891

    And this nonsense …

    MEMBERS of the public have been thrown out of parliament after shouting profanities at Julia Gillard … Labor MPs accused the Coalition of signing in the protesters.

    Independent MP for Lyne Rob Oakeshott asked Speaker Anna Burke to clarify if that was the case.

    “I will remind members of the gallery that they are not participants in question time,” Ms Burke told the chamber.

    “And if they continue we may have to curtail public access to question time.

    “I don’t think Australians quite realise the access they get to this place.”

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/public-hurl-insults-at-prime-minister-julia-gillard-during-question-time/story-fncynjr2-1226595711657

    I must say the last quote is “disturbing” … Parliament belongs to the People!

    And if you really are a bipartisan observer … Tony Abbott has not been abused and insulted the way that the PRIME MINISTER has … and that certainly applies to posters here …

    But its not limited to Julia Gillard … it is aimed at regular and informed posters here …

    Thanks for that KL. I was getting depressed about the prospect of Abbott as PM but your unhinged ranting spite makes him look positively classy!

    One poster here in particular is certainly unhinged …

    Most of us, at one stage or other, have been set upon by a howling lunatic trying to cover their own stinking hypocrisy by shrieking lies and insults at us.

    Who’s supported by another twin personality …

    I have a daughter, I also come from a time when youths preyed on young women.

    Youths (meaning boys I assume) have “preyed upon” (pure emotional nonsense) on young women” since your fkn GOD created them … you are both a pair of nutcases and/or hypocrites of the worst kind … we were all “youths” at one time … and/or young women …

    Boys and girls are just that … you pair of immature morons! (I have a son and a daughter FYI) …

    And I suspect you are both (well I know sb is a MIck) the most damaging influence on people and sexuality I know!

    and just to finish the RANT …

    It pains me that NO-ONE …not one bloody fkn male poster – defends the hypocrisy that splatterbottome and ToM have delivered to KL!

    And apart from your sexual preference … that is disgusting!

    I’m now convinced that the attacks on the PM are mysoginist … and the attacks of supporters are too …

    And BTW my stated political “independence” hasn’t changed …

    NOR HAS MY BELIEF IN HUMAN RESPECT!

  16. TB Queensland permalink
    March 12, 2013 8:22 pm

    Interestingly Abbott has changed since his parliamentary pussy-whipping by Gillard.

    D’jaknow the opposite to that insulting term …?

    Never used here or anywhere against John Howard when he was PM … Rodent was the worst I ever heard him referred to … and a term used by a Liberal colleague …

    You really are a nasty peice of work … I feel for your children, I really do …

    I love interesting prose and clever use of the English language but offensive/abusive crap is … well offensive/abusive crap … and demonstrates a simple and limited understanding of the wider world and a very narrow and possibly abusive upbringing … I know ’cause I had one … but I chose not to abuse other people … particularly complete strangers with an opinion different to mine …

    FYI, again … my background in workshops, production, ADF and mines around the world as given me the ability to burn people’s ears with invective … I choose not to … I don’t know where you work (if you actually do work) but I can assure you you wouldn’t work with any of my employers! (I’d make sure of it!)

    have your daughters ever seen what you write here and on other sites?

  17. March 12, 2013 8:56 pm

    ” Parliament belongs to the People! “ Yeah right. lt seems to be stuffed with Lawyers. Next your going to tell me so-called democracy serves all people.

  18. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 12, 2013 9:13 pm

    I have no idea what you’re on about TB. I used AO’s comment to lead me to appoint about Abbott and the way some people have reflected on his comments about his daughters.

    I also said I use my own youthful experience to try to guide my children, particularly my daughter, from being preyed on for sexual favours.

    I’d find it odd if you have a problem with any of that.

  19. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 12, 2013 9:14 pm

    “to lead me to a point”

  20. TB Queensland permalink
    March 12, 2013 9:15 pm

    Next your going to tell me so-called democracy serves all people.

    I’ve never experienced democracy … no-one has since Athens 6BC (is that the correct terminology? BC? Or did some smartarse academic change it yesterday?)

    BTW, I , and my family have experienced “modern democracy” … I had to register for National Service at 20 – voting age was 21 … I served 1970-71 …

    In 1973, the Australian Parliament amended the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 and lowered the minimum voting age to 18 years.

    Yeah right … alright … can’t vote, can’t drink but can die for the country was the cry … not sure that lowering the “adult” age to 18 was the right move tho …

  21. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 12, 2013 9:17 pm

    “One poster here in particular is certainly unhinged …”

    Don’t be so modest, TB.

    My policy is not to attack other commenters here, just the words I disagree with. I take it you did notice that my comment about KL’s rant was just that, a comment about a rant, not a person.

    As opposed to these comments:

    “And I suspect you are both (well I know sb is a MIck) the most damaging influence on people and sexuality I know!”

    and:

    “You really are a nasty peice of work … I feel for your children, I really do …”

    You really don’t have a clue about my family or personal life. Comments like that say more about you than anything else.

    “I have a son and a daughter FYI”

    Notice I am not going to lower myself to your level by making a response in kind here.

    It pains me that NO-ONE …not one bloody fkn male poster – defends the hypocrisy that splatterbottome and ToM have delivered to KL!”

    I haven’t attacked KL personally at all. I reckon that, apart from the fact that we have antithetical views on most matters political, we are similar in our reactions and in the way we post. I’m going out on a limb here, but I get the sense that just as when I’m outraged by something someone has posted I fire up and bash the keys harder and get some catharsis out of it, KL seems much the same to me.

    You will notice that last week KL wished me well for my medical procedure and I thanked her. I appreciated her concern and didn’t even bother going on with the argument, because, at the end of the day, some genuine human interaction is better than a lot of shouting. That’s my perspective.

    “but I chose not to abuse other people”

    Generally true, but not tonight obviously.

    “Boys and girls are just that … you pair of immature morons!”

    This is funny. A couple of months ago you were complaining about people swearing in public in front of your grandkids and I suggested you lighten up. Now, ToM and I have made what I would have thought was a relatively uncontroversial point – that parents might want their children to have a happy and stable long term relationship. And maybe if you had supported a young person in an exploitative and degrading relationship and helped pick up the pieces you might at least understand why someone would have that view.

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    March 12, 2013 9:35 pm

    ToM

    I also said I use my own youthful experience to try to guide my children, particularly my daughter, from being preyed on for sexual favours.

    I have never preyed on “young women” or ‘older women” for that matter … you may have … but to judge everyone by your obviously low standards is insulting … to many men …

    And maybe its the company you support …

    Yes SB, there is enough pressure on young people without them believing they should be lured into early sexual adventure. I recall the interview with Abbott where he made the comment.

    Schools don’t “lure” children into sexual encounters … quite the opposite … if parents were more mature and took an interest in the development of their children more, then there would be no need for sex education in schools … though one wonders at the way that is undertaken in Catholic schools … maybe you and you new ally do have a reason to fear it … I would …

    Sex education should compliment parental interaction by parents with their children … pity, that in most cases the latter is non existent …

    I was 22 when I had a thorough understanding of venereal disease … thanks to the ADF … by that time I was a father!

    Question… do you have any sons? A non reply will be taken as NO … because your comments relate to a single child family … (and you rarely answer questions that would deny your stance) …

    You see you jumped in and supported this nonsense …

    Unfortunately society is oriented to the sexual exploitation of the young. Popular culture speaks loudly in this regard and the kids are eager to listen. The schools prepare them well for sex without consequence – by the time they are twelve or thirteen they are educated, immunised, rubberised and ready to jump in at the deep end and liveblog the whole experience.

    It not only insults teachers, children, parents but society as a whole … for what? What drives a person to be so meanspirited? What awful experiences must create such negative feelings … and words?

    That’s why I … … find it odd if you have a problem with any of that.

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    March 12, 2013 9:48 pm

    And maybe if you had supported a young person in an exploitative and degrading relationship and helped pick up the pieces you might at least understand why someone would have that view.

    I rest my case … you judge all by one …

    What makes you think I haven’t been there! More than once! But that doesn’t justify nasty comments!

    You know my family make-up … and you’ve shared yours … and we both know the dramas of The Packers don’t come close!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You will notice that last week KL wished me well for my medical procedure and I thanked her.

    I did … but that’s KL …

    What you didn’t notice is that I didn’t take advantage of your “medical situation” – that’s good manners …

    You also missed the point that after our tete a tete about fitting me up with KL’s quote, I said … “your next post MAY end it” …

    It didn’t … I chose not to persue the issue because of your upcoming (don’t ya luv puns) experience …

  24. Evil Walrus permalink
    March 12, 2013 10:26 pm

    I shall disagree with you SB about Gillard being the last ALP PM.

    I believe that thankfully the Gods of Newspoll have smiled and the ALP have now taken the bait and Gillard will now lead them to an unprecedented disaster.

    Don’t forget that if they don’t fuck her off in 2 weeks there won’t a challenge as it will be too late and the May Horror Budget will be delivered.

    They will change structure and name before they ever are successful federally again .

  25. March 12, 2013 10:46 pm

    Last fortnight Lefty panic, Teabags spouting. This fortnight Teabag panic, Lefty`s spouting. Yaaayyy Noise-Polls.

  26. el gordo permalink
    March 12, 2013 11:57 pm

    ‘Don’t forget that if they don’t fuck her off in 2 weeks there won’t be a challenge’

    That makes sense, but I’m holding out for a backbench revolt for the sake of the party.

    Has to be a clean skin to have any credibility and if he has revolutionary zeal they may even win.

  27. el gordo permalink
    March 13, 2013 12:27 am

    ‘I’m now convinced that the attacks on the PM are mysoginist … and the attacks of supporters are too …’

    No, its just a coincidence the PM is a woman.

    If she ran with good strong policies from the start: gay marriage, no CO2 tax and the Ord Detention Centre she would be travelling comfortably.

    But no, its politically incorrect to even criticise the PMs stupid, insular view of the world because she’s a woman.

    The electorate is over it and we are going to sack her for being a hopeless leader of a bankrupt party.

  28. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 13, 2013 4:45 am

    Abbott seems to cop flack for some comments he made about his daughters. The comments seemed to me to be reasonable, coming from a father.

    My remark about abbot’s daughters had nothing to do with a father’s concern for their welfare [they are adults these girls…right?] I meant them hanging off him at every staged event, one has even taken to appearing beside and behind him as if she was a staffer or something, is she looking for a career opportunity? or does she just like to see herself on telly, feeling important because her old man has power and influence?
    Of course the whole staged abbott and girls/wife at every possible event is deliberately designed to show him as a ‘family man’ [even though he’s absent from the family and home most of the time] and try to highlight gillard as ‘living in sin’ and childless, the ’empty fruit bowl’. Male politicians almost never have their family contributions [or lack of] and personal relationships or career sacrifices and decisions seen as an impediment to their career or political advancement.
    We vote for and elect the person not their family, I find it offensive to have the family paraded before us as if we are so stupid we can’t work out why they are there and also because taxpayers fund this entire self indulgent exercise.

    I don’t know why you want to inject a moral value into everything concerning abbott. It’s as if that is all you have for your defence of the stupid, faith based and sexist public statements he makes. I know it’s hard trying to defend the indefensible, the man is a ruthless thug who is arrogantly supreme in the knowledge that he will never have to answer for anything he says or does because his mates in the media seek to protect him from himself. Abbott knows he will never be criticised, never have to answer any tricky questions and his failings will never be made public by his ‘silent partner’, a campaigning press. Labor will never get a fair, balanced or impartial view from newsltd, they have to fight their opponent with one hand tied behind their back.

    Thanks for that KL. I was getting depressed about the prospect of Abbott as PM but your unhinged ranting spite makes him look positively classy!

    I’ve re-read my comment a number of times and don’t think it resembles a rant in any way, shape or form – unless any female voicing their opinion is perceived by you as a ‘rant’!

    I have no idea what you’re on about TB. I used AO’s comment to lead me to appoint about Abbott and the way some people have reflected on his comments about his daughters.

    You seek to distract from the real debate, that of the prolonged, abusive and viciously personal pillorying of a female PM, led by abbott. Something that this nation has never before witnessed and wouldn’t again if it were a male PM. Your point went off to an irrelevant tangent.

  29. el gordo permalink
    March 13, 2013 7:06 am

    ‘You seek to distract from the real debate, that of the prolonged, abusive and viciously personal pillorying of a female PM, led by abbott.’

    Christ all bloody mighty. I voted for her at the last election because she’s a woman, big mistake. In your world view we should let her bumble along, making woeful decisions at our expense, simply because she is a woman.

    Even the feminista would find that laughable. Have you ever thought of visiting AIMN, its right up your alley?

  30. el gordo permalink
    March 13, 2013 7:22 am

    ‘I find it offensive to have the family paraded before us’

    It is a bit (amerikan style politics) but apart from that …. Abbott is just saying I have four members of my family who think the world of me and want me to become PM.

    Kitty, just to clarify, do you think it would be better if Abbott stands aside and replaced by one of the Bishops?

  31. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 13, 2013 9:52 am

    TB: I rest my case … you judge all by one …

    How so? I said that if you did have that experience then perhaps you might understand the view I took. It is not an unreasonable ideal even if in practice things don’t turn out that way. That is not judging all by one, just asking for a bit of tolerance and understanding for a different pint of view.

    “But that doesn’t justify nasty comments!”

    The nastiest comment on this thread comes from you: “You really are a nasty peice of work … I feel for your children, I really do …” Why try to attack me through my children? Especially given you know nothing about my family. Either you stand by that statement or you repudiate it. I would hate the ground rules here to include making ignorant and unfounded remarks about commenters and their families. Anyway whatever way you choose to play it I am not going to degrade this place by commenting on your suitability or otherwise to be a parent or grandparent and the likely effect that may have on your children. I’d appreciate it if you could bring yourself to adopt the same attitude.

    “You also missed the point that after our tete a tete about fitting me up with KL’s quote, I said … “your next post MAY end it” …
    It didn’t … I chose not to persue the issue because of your upcoming (don’t ya luv puns) experience …”

    How can you say that you chose not pursue the matter because of my ‘upcoming’ (I do love the pun) when you had already offered me the last word before I mentioned it (my ‘upcoming’)?

    You should also have noticed that I didn’t actually continue the argument beyond that point. You graciously gave me the last word and I graciously declined to use it to further my argument. So we should conclude from that that we can both behave like gentlemen and sometimes do.

  32. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 13, 2013 11:07 am

    The more and more that I think of it has me convinced that Gillard will be the ALPs last PM.

    Firstly there is likely to be an election wipeout in September which will sweep away much of the ALPs younger talent (if there is any)

    Secondly the ALP increasingly draws upon its Trade Union officials to be its future MPs. I don’t see any talent there at the moment. Although someone is bound to offer the side splitting name of Paul Howes.

    Thirdly of the current talent in Parliament there’s no one of great talent there either. Bill Shorten keeps cropping up but the public have seen him and I’m not sure they have “warmed” to him anyway. Greg Combet is from the Left and after the experience with Gillard also of the Left I don’t see him as viable. The “Rest” will be swept away.
    Basically there is no Whitlam, Hawke or Keating amongst anyone in the ALP at the moment who will lead them out of Opposition.

    They will carry the “Gillard Odium” for many many years

    They have to reform and become much broader than just a “Labor” movement. Much like the US Democrats and certain EU Social Democratic Parties

    Mind you the LNP is not crash hot either but its got a wider membership base to draw upon. And the advantage of future incumbency.

  33. el gordo permalink
    March 13, 2013 11:46 am

    I agree 2D, its a strong possibility.

  34. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 13, 2013 11:49 am

    “Bill Shorten keeps cropping up but the public have seen him and I’m not sure they have “warmed” to him anyway.”

    Shorten may not survive a proper inquiry into the AWU fraud. Bob Kernohan was one AWU official who tried to pursue the fraudsters even after the others closed ranks. His career was ruined and he was beaten up for his trouble (that is how things work in Unionland). Of Shorten he said:

    Shorten said to me when I asked him for his support after Wilson and Gillard were exposed for ripping off hundreds of thousands of dollars from the AWU, “Bob think of your future, Wilson has gone, everyone else is moving on, BULTISH, BULTISH. Not long after I received death threats, bullets in my mail box, bullied out of my office, and badly assaulted.

  35. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 13, 2013 12:45 pm

    Christ all bloody mighty. I voted for her at the last election because she’s a woman, big mistake. In your world view we should let her bumble along, making woeful decisions at our expense, simply because she is a woman.

    Can’t see you voting for gillard or labor. You’ve been in denier/teabagger land for years!

    ‘Woeful decisions’ is your opinion only and appears to be based upon the spoonfed lies put about by the libs and their media mates. The continual denial of reality such as a great economy that’s the best in the world, the painting of the govt as failures and woeful when it has been getting things done. Enlightened people are happy about a carbon tax and want miners to pay more for ripping off ‘our’ assets for personal profit which are then used to poison our very existence.

    Even the feminista would find that laughable. Have you ever thought of visiting AIMN, its right up your alley?

    Sorry have no plans for that. I do note your ongoing anti female attitude though which has been rather comical, this failure to see that men are well in charge of everything in the world, women are still not safe to walk the streets, don’t get equal pay. This whole ‘angry at the world and females’ because I haven’t got what I want in life is a weird male thing. female advancement toward any kind of equal representation in just so threatening to the white male dominant world order isn’t it? I know, go out and scream obscenities and foul personal abuse at the PM! Don’t dare direct it at the real offenders, the capitalists who have created the misery for all of us stuck in a lifetime of competitive slavery which only benefits the few.

  36. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 13, 2013 1:28 pm

    KL: “I’ve re-read my comment a number of times and don’t think it resembles a rant in any way, shape or form – unless any female voicing their opinion is perceived by you as a ‘rant’!”

    Don’t you think this bit, for example, is a tad overwrought? “The public incited to vicious sexism and misogyny, absolute hatred and contempt, we’ve never witnessed anything like this before.”

  37. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 13, 2013 1:54 pm

    “………..This whole ‘angry at the world and females’ because I haven’t got what I want in life is a weird male thing………………”

    LOL

    Hello Pot……………………..Allow me to introduce you to Kettle

    If anyone around here is in a constant state of anger I think I’d be pointing my finger to the North

  38. el gordo permalink
    March 13, 2013 2:38 pm

    ‘Can’t see you voting for gillard or labor. You’ve been in denier/teabagger land for years!’

    All my life I voted nothing but Labor, so what went wrong? That dismal tax has taken me away from my roots.

    And I voted for joolya at the last election… that was my big mistake.

  39. el gordo permalink
    March 13, 2013 2:47 pm

    ‘Don’t dare direct it at the real offenders, the capitalists who have created the misery for all of us stuck in a lifetime of competitive slavery which only benefits the few.’

    I won’t comment on your feminist rant and this sentence indicates you have a stuck picture… Marx is dead in my book.

  40. el gordo permalink
    March 13, 2013 3:09 pm

    ‘The more and more that I think of it has me convinced that Gillard will be the ALPs last PM.’

    Just say Labor is throughly routed, but they fail to get both houses. Abbott then plans a Double D, sacks Flannery (Climate Commissioner) and replaces him with Bob Carter who tells the people the truth about climate change.

    The Greens would be dead meat and with Labor only a rump, they maybe forced into a coalition.

  41. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 13, 2013 3:23 pm

    Don’t you think this bit, for example, is a tad overwrought? “The public incited to vicious sexism and misogyny, absolute hatred and contempt, we’ve never witnessed anything like this before.”

    Not at all, this women has been subjected to an onslaught of obscenities, vicious and foul mouthed gender directed abuse and demeaning personal vilification since taking office. It is to her credit that she takes it on the chin and keeps on going. The public have been encouraged to think of her in that derogatory way and vocalise it whenever possible, even chain emails of hate to spread it as far and wide as possible. The bernardi troops have done well with their personal persecution of the first female PM.

    Just think how you would feel if it were your own daughter who had taken the chance to be PM, only wanting to make a difference to the lives of australian people. You know she is a good and decent person whatever the politics of the day and she is subjected to what this PM has endured. It would make you cry into your pillow every night, you’d want to try and protect her [as tomM expresses about his own daughters].

    I hate to think of the sadness that JG’s father felt on his daughter’s behalf before he died, to witness how she was being portrayed to the nation by a power seeking/threatened, national wolf pack of chest beating male chauvinism.

  42. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 13, 2013 3:33 pm

    I won’t comment on your feminist rant and this sentence indicates you have a stuck picture… Marx is dead in my book.

    I don’t care about marx or your book, you can make yourself feel better by pronouncing everyone who opposes your ideological denial as a ‘communist’. You might even convince yourself that capitalism is helping society rather than destroying it.
    You’d be better off fighting the inequalities of the oppressive capitalist system. There’s not many boats being floated or anything but piss trickling down upon the wage slaves, but there is a huge tsunami of profiteering from the ground up to the top, wiping out everything in the middle and beneath.

  43. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 13, 2013 4:05 pm

    she is a good and decent person

    *Snort*

    Ask the wives of Messrs O’Connor, Wilson, Emerson etc…..

    Once might be unavoidable, love/lust, maybe even twice, but thrice you’re a dirty homewrecker. Hardly good and decent. And that’s before we get into the corruption, the knifings, the deceit etc etc….

  44. el gordo permalink
    March 13, 2013 4:07 pm

    ‘….piss trickling down upon the wage slaves, but there is a huge tsunami of profiteering from the ground up to the top’ in Communist China and elsewhere.

    History will not forget the GFC, the catalyst was 9/11 and Greenspan’s folly sowed the seeds for the filthy greedy capitalists to thrive. Its a nasty bi-product of the free enterprise system, along with the boom and bust economic cycle.

    ‘…you can make yourself feel better by pronouncing everyone who opposes your ideological denial as a ‘communist’.

    You may not be a card carrying member, but you are definitely a watermelon sprouting old world ideology that is no longer politically relevant.

  45. el gordo permalink
    March 13, 2013 4:10 pm

    Hello James. Are you suggesting the PM is a nasty piece of work?

  46. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 13, 2013 4:35 pm

    “Just think how you would feel if it were your own daughter”

    If she was my daughter, I would probably support her come what may. But she isn’t so I judge her the same way I would judge anyone else.

    As for your maudlin and wholly erroneous description of her as someone “who had taken the chance to be PM, only wanting to make a difference to the lives of australian people”, you must surely be joking. She is a power mad hypocrite who stabbed her way to the top job and who, long ago having sold out whatever principles she started with, will now say and do anything to hold on to power. She is a laughing stock now, not only because of her lust for power but also because she is as dumb as dogshit and completely incompetent.

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    March 13, 2013 4:51 pm

    She is a laughing stock now, not only because of her lust for power but also because she is as dumb as dogshit and completely incompetent.

    Strange – that paragraph, apart from the first phrase (and gender), aptly describes, Winston Churchill … yet he is still revered in some quarters … the Liberal Party particularly … Menzies also springs to mind … a right twit (pun intended) when things went wrong …

    And for those Churchill/Menzies sycophants … read your history of TWO world wars … Menzies fkd up in WWII and VN …

  48. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 13, 2013 4:55 pm

    Amen to that James (4.05PM). You beat me to it. However her lust for power is greater than her lust for married men.

  49. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 13, 2013 5:07 pm

    Churchill, whatever his faults may be, saved his country in WWII. I wouldn’t put him the Gillard class. John Howard on the other hand is right up there.

  50. TB Queensland permalink
    March 13, 2013 5:15 pm

    LOL!

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    March 13, 2013 5:29 pm

    Meanwhile in the North of Oz the Country Liberal Party

    Play politics …

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/adam-giles-rolls-terry-mills-as-nt-chief-minister/story-fncynjr2-1226596581204

    Chuckle …

  52. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 13, 2013 6:46 pm

    AO – You know she is a good and decent person whatever the politics of the day

    I don’t agree that she is good and decent, I think Gillard is inclined to conceal rather be transparent, to prefer intrigue rather than co-operation, she blusters rather than honestly explains.

    My opinion has nothing to do with her gender. I admired Joan Childs, Susan Ryan, Ros Kelly (off the top of my head), – because they were decent.

    The type of duplicity Gillard exhibits has nothing to do with her being a female.

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    March 13, 2013 7:24 pm

    Ros Kelly! FMD! Whiteboard Ros … you really have some strange mem’ries … or do you just do a quick Google for ex – ALP pollies …

    After that post my guess is that your a fan of Latham’s too …

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    March 13, 2013 7:32 pm

    Churchill, whatever his faults may be, saved his country in WWII.

    FYI, 50,000,000 people died during WWII … 27,000,000 were Russians … like it or not that arsehole Stalin(and meant) saved the UK … along with December 7, 1942, Pearl Harbor … Lend Lease …

    Ever heard of Dieppe?

    Ever heard of Gallipoli?

    Ever heard of the Australian 6th & 7th Division’s redeployment attempt in 1942?

    All Churchill’s meddling and blunders … and only three … I’ll happily quote some more and bore you!

  55. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 13, 2013 8:57 pm

    Yes TB, I put Ros Kelly in because I think she is decent, despite the whiteboard affair.

  56. el gordo permalink
    March 13, 2013 11:24 pm

    ‘Ever heard of Gallipoli?’

    Winston is to blame for the folly that was Gallipoli.

    Read the other day that the man with the donkey was a deserter from the merchant navy (Brit) and essentially his heroism was a beat-up by a journalist from the yellow press.

    Churchill may have saved Britain from the Nazi, but he was at the same time a self serving prick.

  57. March 14, 2013 1:59 am

    ” I voted for her at the last election ” GUFFAW
    ” because she’s a woman,” GUFFAW GUFFAW
    not at the rate you heartily guzzle from the teapot grodo

  58. March 14, 2013 2:08 am

    ” piss trickling down upon the wage slaves, but there is a huge tsunami of profiteering”
    armchair, what l find even funnier about the teabags, is they are selling it all off to Communist China cheap, to one of the teabags enemy`s in so-called `cold-war` _ this is a one-way flow of wealth, China won`t be as stupid as the teabags

  59. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 14, 2013 4:21 am

    Ask the wives of Messrs O’Connor, Wilson, Emerson etc…

    is that the educated and informed male view? Lucky we don’t judge and condemn people based on gossip, innuendo, smear and sanctimonious moralising in the courtroom.

    Relevance to anything? Who fkn cares about her private life, especially a long past private life. How ridiculous and completely idiotic to judge her as a ‘homewrecker’ when there was no home to wreck at the time. I can’t believe the double standard and the .

    Are you going to call your own wife a slut and a homewrecker for having any relationships prior to your own marriage, because that is exactly what you are saying here.

    Were these men married to their current wives when gillard had a relationship with them?

    You have no right to impose your own morality on her or anyone else. Others don’t have to live by your rules, the only one who does is yourself. What is this conservative obsession with sex and what happens in other people’s bedrooms?

    Has gillard been gadding around with men and cheating on tim mathieson while in a relationship with him and while living together? You show the hypocrisy and double standards of your gender and your religion.

    What has her past history, past boyfriends etc got to do with the present? Should we round up all the male pollies and judge their characters and fitness for office based on their past sexual history, their current and previous affairs, their sexual preferences or who they screwed before entering politics? Will the male ‘studs’ be held to the same moral standard?

    This stuff shouldn’t even be in the political domain and shame on those who seek to do so.

    If you are going to apply a morals and past sexual history test, we should be judging abbott and finding him wanting after walking out on his [he thought] pregnant girlfriend, leaving her to face the consequences of their sex before marriage alone and unsupported. Why don’t we ask mrs abbott about mr abbott’s straying and homewrecking with his pre-marriage affair [since we seem to be ludicrously making a judgement about a person by applying a back to the future blame and shame for wrecked homes before the homes existed.

    Which makes his own public statements even more pukeworthy:

    “I would say to my daughters, if they were to ask me this question, I would say…it is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don’t give it to someone lightly,…” certainly not someone like himself, I assume. Someone who can’t see the value of his daughter as a complete person, more a vagina on legs complete with special ‘gift’. Let’s hope the daughters never ask him.

    The type of duplicity Gillard exhibits has nothing to do with her being a female.

    Course not, as long as you are prepared to judge abbott by the same criteria, such as saying one thing one day and completely reversing it the next when it goes down like a lead balloon. What about barefaced lying to the public?

    Don’t believe everything I say – Tony Abbott
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/dont-believe-everything-i-say-tony-abbott/story-e6frf7l6-1225867979082
    Abbott grilled over policy backflips
    Truth stretched “in heat of debate” But scripted promises are “gospel”
    Mr Abbott said in a radio interview in February that the Coalition would not increase tax and in March announced a tax on big business to pay for a parental leave scheme.

  60. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 14, 2013 4:58 am

    oops, here’s the rest of the 2nd para.

    I can’t believe the double standard and the slut-shaming displayed in your post.

  61. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 6:57 am

    ‘is that the educated and informed male view?’

    Her poor taste in men reflects badly upon her judgement.

  62. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 7:08 am

    ‘not at the rate you heartily guzzle from the teapot grodo’

    Are you calling me a liar?

    Not that I’m worried, my poor political judgement in voting for the redhead was unfortunate but not soul destroying.

    Now I’m free to make a value judgement based on the content of my wallet and not theoretical ideas from a bygone era.

  63. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 7:42 am

    ‘Gillard’s answers were arrogant, her attitude was sneering and her tone was that ghastly drone. Her voice has become a national issue, a liability even with people who do not follow politics. It is a liability that compounds an apparent inability to deliver a straight answer to any question.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/all-not-quiet-as-pm-tackles-western-front-20130313-2g0si.html#ixzz2NSEmAcuN

  64. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 14, 2013 9:23 am

    AO – Don’t believe everything I say – Tony Abbott

    Arguably Abbott is owning up. That’s certainly more than Gillard seems capable of, she just drones on and on and on and on and on…

    Gillard is has proven to be dishonest, but she just obfuscates, she can be caught committing the most dishonest act and blandly excuses herself.

    Has there been a more dishonest act by a Prim Minister that Gillard’s actions in dealing with Wilkie?

    Gillard-
    • Made a clear, unequivocal commitment to win Wilkie’s support, and therefore formed government and moved into the Lodge.
    • It was only this unequivocal, written commitment that allowed her to form government
    • Gillard did not even deliver her own party to the commitment, she simply walked away from it. She did not test her commitment in parliament
    • She then made the notorious deal with proven rorter Slipper to avoid the consequences of her breaking her word

    I struggle to think of any behaviour by any PM that equals this in fundamental dishonesty. It is so inexcusable.

  65. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 14, 2013 9:32 am

    Grub Gillard will trade anything to remain in Office. Nothing is off limits to this Bastard Daughter of the Left.

    The ALP has been left as a hollow shell due to her actions and the public peer inside and see absolutely nothing of value.

    So they move on

  66. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 14, 2013 1:17 pm

    Arguably Abbott is owning up. That’s certainly more than Gillard seems capable of, she just drones on and on and on and on and on…

    No, no points for “at least he’s being honest” If he was honest, he wouldn’t lie in the first place. He habitually lies to get himself out of a pickle. Remember the meeting with Pell that he didn’t have and the filthy look he gave kerry o’brien when it was pointed out that he did indeed meet pell. The lies roll off his tongue whenever he feels the need, now nobody can know when he’s lying and when he’s telling the truth, he’ll do whatever it takes. Hardly a beacon of honesty and truthiness.

    Her poor taste in men reflects badly upon her judgement.

    I say that about mrs abbott, at least she can take some comfort in that he’s hardly ever home so doesn’t upset her own life too much!

  67. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 14, 2013 1:20 pm

    “If he was honest, he wouldn’t lie in the first place. He habitually lies to get himself out of a pickle. “

    Surely you mean ‘she’ not ‘he’ in this very apt description of our molecular PM.

  68. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 14, 2013 1:44 pm

    Fine AO, Abbott is dishonest, but admits it.

    Gillard denies it, despite all the evidence.

    Far be it from me to reflect on her choice in men, but there are plenty of examples of poor judgement in her personal and (pre parliamentary) professional life.

    I’m not singling her out because of her gender, I simply cannot accept that a PM can act so dishonourably to another MP, in order to remain PM, and be excused for it.

    I think she is shifty.

  69. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 14, 2013 2:04 pm

    Geez that got a response. My assessment of the PM’s character was in direct response to the contention that “she is a good and decent person”.

    She is not a good and decent person. She is a corrupt, deceitful, power addict who has absolutely no conscience when it comes to achieving that power objective.

  70. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 2:08 pm

    Yep, that’s how the electorate see her too.

  71. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 14, 2013 2:25 pm

    Yep, that’s how the electorate see her too.

    Then how come she is getting 45% of the 2PP vote???

  72. TB Queensland permalink
    March 14, 2013 3:49 pm

    Then how come she is getting 45% of the 2PP vote???

    Simple … because Tony Abbott is seen as a bigger …. not a good and decent person. He is a corrupt, deceitful, power addict who has absolutely no conscience when it comes to achieving that power objective.

    All rotten to the core …

  73. March 14, 2013 4:19 pm

    about joolya, snacky reckons
    ” She is not a good and decent person. She is a corrupt, deceitful, power addict who has absolutely no conscience when it comes to achieving that power objective.”
    l agree snacky, but this would also apply equally to Mr-Rabbit

  74. March 14, 2013 4:26 pm

    ” make a value judgement based on the content of my wallet “
    well grodo, l never thought you would start agreeing with me on how so-called democracy is just a bribe-paying competition, China need not follow our folly

  75. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 14, 2013 4:33 pm

    Yeah, right. Remember when Gillard was praised for her superior “negotiation skills” That’s why she was able to do the deal with Wilkie. That’s why she is now Prime Minister.

    But the fact is that Gillard is prime Minister because she promised to deliver what Wilkie wanted, and then dishonestly broke the commitment.

    Will anyone be willing to excuse Abbott of similar behaviour, if that’s how he becomes PM?

  76. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 4:44 pm

    ‘democracy is just a bribe-paying competition, China need not follow our folly’

    The hip pocket nerve is an important aspect of democracy, but we are also conscious that we need an armed force, hospitals and other stuff. The taxpayers are entrusting their hard earned dollars to government and hope they manage it well.

    If they don’t and we aren’t happy … they are given time out.

    As for China and state capitalism, the jury is still out on that too.

  77. TB Queensland permalink
    March 14, 2013 4:59 pm

    Will anyone be willing to excuse Abbott of similar behaviour, if that’s how he becomes PM?

    Well we will certainly monitoring your posts, ToM …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The hip pocket nerve is an important aspect of democracy … WTF?

    Maybe that’s why we’re in so much $#!t if people actually believe that … shakes head …

  78. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 5:16 pm

    ‘if people actually believe that’

    The greater middle class is not stupid, when government squanders their taxpaying dollars they will become very angry and rout them.

    Found this at the cafe …

    http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/365988/carbon-tax-sent-small-business-to-the-wall/

  79. TB Queensland permalink
    March 14, 2013 5:27 pm

    Apologies, egg, misunderstood your point ..

  80. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 5:28 pm

    That’s ok.

  81. TB Queensland permalink
    March 14, 2013 5:36 pm

    As for your link … just gotta read between the lines … “proposed redevelopment”? but let’s blame the CT I see the dateline too … the skay hasn’t fallen in …

    We generated over 20 kwh today … our daily use is between 9 and 10 kwh … probably less now that all our light (bar one) are LED (including 13 ex fluoros) …

    Y’see its easy to blame somebody else when things ain’t going right … did I tell you about the year I only earned $20,000 (for the first five years I’d been earning a good six figures) … took me another year and a complete restructure of our (two person) business … and we were earning TWICE as much as before!

  82. March 14, 2013 5:39 pm

    ” hip pocket nerve is an important aspect of democracy,”
    problem is it`s become the `only` aspect to so-called democracy

  83. TB Queensland permalink
    March 14, 2013 5:49 pm

    037, you got it maybe I should withdraw my apology! 😯

  84. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 5:55 pm

    ‘the skay hasn’t fallen in …’

    For very small business the sky fell in for around six months, but as I mentioned previously it picked up again as soon as joolya announced the election date.

    Coincidence? I think not.

  85. toiletpontiffofnunuland permalink
    March 14, 2013 6:00 pm

    GO QUEENSLANDER !!!

  86. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 6:06 pm

    ‘problem is it`s become the `only` aspect to so-called democracy’

    No, the public service is the other important aspect and the expensive infrastructure that goes with it.

  87. March 14, 2013 6:12 pm

    ” the public service is the other important aspect “
    wot, like slashing health and education.?
    .
    ” and the expensive infrastructure that goes with it.”
    or just ripping up interweb networks.?

  88. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 6:28 pm

    ‘like slashing health and education.?’

    Difficult choices have to be made, whilst cutting up the cake. Abbott will probably increase monies going to the armed forces and cut back on middle class welfare.

    The expensive infrastructure might be state of the art fighter jets which are already out of date, or a monstrous green machine which achieves nothing.

    Governments are judged on their competency.

  89. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 7:45 pm

    This is good news for some, but there are also losers.

    ‘THE jobs market roared back to life in February, creating more than 70,000 new jobs and reducing the chance of a Reserve Bank of Australia rate cut next month to almost zero.’

    Adam Creighton in the Oz

  90. TB Queensland permalink
    March 14, 2013 7:48 pm

    No, the public service is the other important aspect and the expensive infrastructure that goes with it.

    … take the private schools off the public teat (tax concessions for ALL shool child working parenst) … remove the baby bonus … and support the child/ren with monthly payments (in my day called child endowment) … re-establish a decent national health system that is client/sickness orientated not profit/shareholder, as they did in the UK a few years ago … remove the 30 billion+ assistance to private health and use it in a public health system … get “professional” managers to operate hospitals utilising a “board” of health professionals and local buusiness people … won’t bore you more … 🙄

    its not fkn rocket sciemce … just decisions made for Australia not politics …

  91. TB Queensland permalink
    March 14, 2013 7:50 pm

    its not fkn rocket sciemce … just decisions made for Australia not politics … and this strange concept that politicians think they are business managers when they couldn’t make a profit from a lemonade stand with free lemonade!

  92. TB Queensland permalink
    March 14, 2013 7:56 pm

    I just popped up to get a glass of wine (some of you may remember my office has another room and deck – and bar – on top that that gives us views to Brisbane) … in these time of economic gloom a doom from certain “sections” of the population 😉 (who are always there BTW) … I can inform you that the CBD skyline is now three times the width it was about four years ago … sad economic times indeed …:roll:

  93. TB Queensland permalink
    March 14, 2013 8:05 pm

    I actually posted a reply to yours … 073?

    saying that you’d nailed it! And maybe i should retract my apology to, egg!

  94. TB Queensland permalink
    March 14, 2013 8:06 pm

    Duh? fkn technology … or the Blogmeaster is out to dinner AGAIN! 😉

  95. el gordo permalink
    March 14, 2013 8:13 pm

    I accepted your apology, you can’t take it back.

    And I agree with your list at 7.48, but in a democracy we have to go with the majority decision.

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    March 14, 2013 10:03 pm

    ***And I agree with your list at 7.48, but in a democracy we have to go with the majority decision.***

    Hip pocket not sensible?

    By the way jobe numbers are up by a factor of TEN!

    Employed remains at 94.5%

  97. March 14, 2013 10:27 pm

    ” expensive infrastructure might be state of the art fighter jets which are already out of date,”
    Teabag Governments are judged on their competency.

  98. Evil Walrus permalink
    March 14, 2013 10:47 pm

    Oh

    How many of Beazleys submarines are in the water ?

    And how’s that English support ship going etc etc et c

    And after 6 years how many times has that lying grub of a PM had the chance to cancel the program ?

    And how is the defence budget?

  99. March 16, 2013 2:28 am

    ” And how is the defence budget? “
    lt seems the Howard regime didn`t have one. John-W preferred on open-ended cheque-book and commitment to prove his devotion to the Tea-xan.
    .
    Have you all notice Iraq and Afghan are now have `issues` now the the pull-out is underway. Teabags will have to return soon, a decade isn`t long enough.

  100. March 19, 2013 7:39 pm

    I think that the Nielson poll proves that Julia’s visit to Western Sydney delivered no net result, and if anything proves that people have simply stopped listening.

    As such, she’s finished.

    There’s nothing she can do anymore to turn the ship around.

    It’s all over for Gillard.

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