Simon Crean Announces Leadership Spill!
March 21, 2013
See I told you we were right…
Simon Crean has today called on the Prime Minister to initiate a leadership ballot and has thrown his support behind ousted leader Kevin Rudd.
Addressing the media earlier today, Mr Crean said that Kevin Rudd has to stand.
“I’m doing this for Labor Party and the nation” he said.
“Kevin Rudd has to run. We have to show leadership. I’m doing this in the interests of the Labor Party.”
Lamenting Labor’s current prospects, Mr Crean said ‘we can’t win from the position we are in the polls.’
He said that he wouldn’t be doing this if he didn’t think there was the mood for change in the party.
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Crean says he will step aside if Gillard wins the spill.
Gillard is finished (I hope)
She will be remembered as (one of) the most dishonerable of PMs
Sam Dastyari has told NSW Right to back Kevin Rudd.
Meanwhile bloggers at TPS , the Café and AIMN are in a race to see who can be the first to post
“Thank God Kevin is back………Good riddance to that disloyal slut…………. I never could stand her.”
Go Rudd!!
(so Rudd’s leadership will be poinsoned by the NSW right)
So they need one third of caucus to sign a petition. So 33% must be OK to have their names in writing.
Rudd therefore must have the numbers
Predictions from CW, AIMN etc
• Rudd deserves a chance, I’m sure he’s learnt from last time
• Gillard was knifed by the media
• Crean should have stayed loyal, but they now need to unite behind Rudd
• …but, but, but, …it’s all baseless media speculation..,
But has Paul Howe confirmed the next PM yet or is he at lunch ?
LOL @ 2DT…:)
*tumbleweeds at the cafe and AIMN*
They’ll all be tearing their hair out – “how can they do this to our Julia..???!!
Predictions from CW, AIMN etc”…
The leadership spill is just a media beat up.
l doubt Kevin07 will run tho, l think Kevin07 will play the long game for a return after Mr-Rabbit fcuks everything up.
*Files away AWU. Pulls out Heiner file. Blows off dust.
OK, when do we start?
“Look what the media did now.”
(Kudelka on twitter)
Onya, Piers. 🙄
* fkn wordpress…
Was directed at
Pierssnacty…That was supposed to be funny……
Murdoch, you magnificent bastard.
Sam Dastyari has denied he has ordered the NSW Right to go with Rudd
Which I suppose means he’s allowed them to make up their own minds.
I think the survival instinct clicked in as soon as the “Covered Up Polling Story” appeared this morning.
Abbott wont be happy
I wonder when Carr gets back. All votes would be critical one would think.
I wish I had the list of members who slagged off Rudd handy. Would be funny to observe the line of tails curled up between legs.
Ding dong the someone is dead!
Baseless speculation.
If not, the blame may be placed entirely with Fairfax/NewsLtd/ABC hate campaigns of chauvanist lies.
This is a prime example of why the
hatemedia needs to be regulated.*Now to deal with Michael Clarke…..
“I wish I had the list of members who slagged off Rudd handy.”
Emerson, Roxon, Garrett, Bourke, Swan, and of course Gillard come to mind
Cant recall which one described Rudd as a psychopath.
But I’m sure the LNP will remind us
Can we have a ‘spill’?
GO TEAM !!!
It all gets so confusing whenthey keep breaking off their hood ornament & replacing it with a
oldnew one.Simon Crean is a misogynist.
GO INDIA !!!
Oh, the hilarity of watching the egomaniacs in the ockertard cricket teams fall from their ridiculous public pedestal.
Simon Crean is a Murdoch stooge!
Simon Crean hates our Freedomz.
abc1 news, Joolya says, There will be a ballot for the leadership and deputy-leadership at 430pm today.
abc1 news, Mr-Rabbit is moving a motion of no confidence in Joolya (ha-ha)
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/liberals-ready-with-the-rudd-files-what-labor-said-about-kevin/story-e6frea83-1226583053122
Crean has changed his mind- this from Feb 2012
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/kevin-rudd-cant-be-pm-again-simon-crean/story-fn7x8me2-1226258813972
“Former Labor leader Simon Crean yesterday accused Mr Rudd of not being a “team player” and said the foreign minister “can’t be prime minister again“.
The AbbottAbbottAbbott is probably a lil concerned that his walk up start may get eroded somewhat.
Julia has sacked Simon Crean…
I guess honesty isn’t always the best policy…
Neil is a team player!
abc1 news, Independent MPs are discussing the no confidence motion from Mr-Rabbit.
Simon Crean does the bidding of Teh Hate Media.
You’d think this was all new! Still, I suppose it is to some folk … 🙄
Roll on afternoon drinkths …
abc1 news, Mr-Rabbit didn`t get his motion. Needed 76, got 73. Joolya closed QT.
Any supposedly inelligent person who gets their political analysis and talking-points from someone like Catching Up is bound to end up looking uninformed and silly at some point.
Mr-Rabbits Lucky number seems to be 73. (ha-ha-teabags)
I believe Simon Crean has just made a very brave personal stand … he, like many here, realises that the Labor Party has to sort itself out for the COUNTRY’s sake … he’s put his head on the chopping block to gets some logic into what is happening to the ALP … power and control fraks more interested in thier own petty personal programs rather than governing Australia … at least, Crean, did it openly and to the camera not behind closed doors and whispering in a journos ear …
Always thought, Crean, was aweak leader but he’s gone up in my estimation … not as a leader, maybe but certainly as a person …
fraks, what a lovely new words … frakking hell!
#intelligent, frak it.
My guess at all this, Joolya will win the `backroom` ballot. With the noise-polls scaring the shit out of the rest of the `Lefty`s, they won`t want to go to an immediate election. Everybody is over-looking the Independents `deal` is with Joolya, not the ALP. This will stop Rudd from taking Joolya`s poison chalice.
Yes TB, l share your view on Crean too, now.
” Simon Crean has just made a very brave personal stand”
Our Joolya refuses to see that the public hates her and Labor MPs are terrified of losing their jobs. Kevin is their only chance now but he will insist on being begged and grovelled to.
“Kevin is their only chance now but he will insist on being begged and grovelled to.”
That attitude was his problem first time around. Nothing much has changed with him.
The sad reality for the Alp imploding is both Kevin07 and Joolya are highly likely to be returned to their seat in sep-14, so this back and forth knifing will continue beyond sep-14. Meanwhile, smaller figures in the Alp will receive the punishment both Kevin07 and Joolya deserve.
Its a spill, loolya vacates her seat and the voting begins. This is not a two horse race, a couple of compromise candidates wouldn’t go astray.
Rudd still hasn’t nominated.
“Rudd still hasn’t nominated.”
That is his best tactic. Either they draft him or walk out of the room looking more shambolic than when they went in (if that is possible).
Yes TB, l share your view on Crean too, now.
Three of us (at least) see it but the Caucus doesn’t. Weird how out of touch they are.
abc1 news, Chris Toolman says, the ALP `right` still think they would lose sep-14 under Kevin07, but would at least retain enough seats to put up some `opposition` and ability to build on.
Talk Rudd hasn’t got numbers and won’t nominate.
abc1 news, Toolman says, the ALP have been obsessed with `leadership-despair` since knifing Kevin07, but Toolman is not certain the Alp `despair` translates to votes away from Alp, or towards Mr-Rabbit.
Do we have a compromise candidate?
“Do we have a compromise candidate?”
Maybe Rob Oakeshott would step up.
I think Crean sees himself as that. I certainly do. Caucus apparently doesn’t. I just want an adult in there. I don’t want to see a landslide of the size Gillard would suffer.
l nominate Stephen Smith, he is the answer to Joolya`s wooden image.
Smith’s likely to lose his seat.
Amusing to see that Standing Orders were almost suspended for a Vote of Confidence in the PM and 3 of the Indies voted with the Oppn. They being Oakeshitt, Windsor and Wilkie.
Katter stormed out and Slipper and Thomson went with the government.
So we almost had an election called this afternoon
Windsor probably feels confident of keeping his Seat now what with the Torbay Nationals fiasco
Wonder how Katter’s electorate feels about him not taking the chance to kill off this Government.
abc1 news, Barrie Cassidy says, no matter who walks out as leader, the `winner` will still be stuck in a very hard position. The camp of Kevin07 has been backgrounding to the extent that the Alp is too badly damaged. Toolman said similar.
Katter takes in quite a few pro union mining towns. He plays both sides these days
If Rudd doesn’t now step up to the plate he will surely lose respect. That would make things easier for Shorten down the track.
Anyway Daily Terror in Sydney reports Rudd upto 7 votes ahead.
l take it Bandt went with Joolya too, Jock Shock.?
If he does not step up then why would he bother hanging around ?
Would Gillard hang around ?
Yep 7:30. I forgot him
abc1 news, Barrie says, Conroy media bills were dumped because the Alp poorly framed the argument. The argument should have been made how ordinary, not powerful people have been damaged by the media, and how many, many of them have. (Barrie_is_correct)
“If he does not step up then why would he bother hanging around ?”
May not want to lead the party to defeat. Also he said he would not challenge. If he meant that then he won’t nominate this afternoon.
Even if they “frame” it differently, their motive is clear enough:
“It was striking to see in the parliamentary committee this week Labor and Green politicians referring to particular columns or editorials they disagreed with. The context was meant to be an inquiry about the structural regulation of the media. Citing perfectly mainstream columns they simply didn’t like suggested media regulation would be influenced by these dislikes. Manifestly, this is a terrible way to arrive at government regulation. It is a naked example of politics intimidating a free and independent institution.”
The Australian peoples’ best interests are served by keeping the government out of media regulation. This is especially so when Unionland thugs are the government.
From the SMH
“There is a group of about 20 MPs inside Mr Rudd’s office urging him to run.
They include people already know to support Mr Rudd – Sydney MP Ed Husic, Victorian MP Richard Marles and South Australian MP Tony Zappia.”
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/the-pulse-live/politics-live-21-march-2013-20130321-2ggsv.html#ixzz2O9BxZlvK
“LABOR backbencher Graham Perrett has predicted that Kevin Rudd won’t stand for the leadership in Thursday’s caucus ballot.
“He made it very clear not long ago that he would not be nominating,” Mr Perrett told ABC online.
“Kevin would have to make up his own mind and reconcile his words with his actions.
“I judge him on face value and what he said.”
“My guess at all this, Joolya will win the `backroom` ballot.”
I reckon she’s finished.
Laclan Harris (ex Rudd staffer) says on Sydney Radio Rudd has the numbers or has been promised them.
Lets see
Tony Abbott is probably canvassing on her behalf
Be interesting to see what happens if Julia Gillard WINS ….
on abc1 their talking to some `Lefty` about `panic` _ of course they bloody panicked
Barrie Cassidy on Crean:
I’m waiting for a long post on Aborigines to appear at the Cafe
Nothing to see here
“Be interesting to see what happens if Julia Gillard WINS ….”
Abbott will be over the moon!
they keep talking woulda, shoulda, coulda, but has Kevin07 actually `nominated` or accepted nomination.? smells_fishy.?
The few patrons at the cafe are blaming Simon Crean now, oh and the media of course… 🙄
The media did this to our democracy!
Reports Whitlam has passed away
‘l nominate Stephen Smith, he is the answer to Joolya`s wooden image.’
Finally, we agree on sumthin.
abc1 news, Crean`s office has confirmed Crean has been sacked from ministerial duties. (punished_for_truth.?_TB)
abc1, Kevin07 NOT running
Holy cow – Rudd says he won’t challenge…!!
Fran Kelly:
“Rudd says he will not challenge. Wants to be drafted overwhelmingly if position is vacant. A tactical move to force the numbers.”
Dont they just need a petition to force a spill of all positions ?
Gillard remains PM. Doesn’t it make you proud to be Australian!
So does that mean that the Gillard cheer squad will now consider Kevin Rudd to be their friend?
Looks like Rudd has to wait until May to become PM.
What is all this about??
And so this slo-mo train wreck grinds on, taking the derailed ALP further down the track that leads to political oblivion.
” Barrie Cassidy on Crean”
l suspect `Joolya-haters` are backgrounding the press-pack, tho not necessarily Kevin07, but zombie-media spin it as `camp-Kevin07`, splatter
Looks like Crean is the big loser today, and there was me thinking he was one of the few adult voices in the party.
This has been a beatup of extraordinary proportions.
abc1 news, Joolya returned, Swann returned.
Mr Abbott will be popping the champagne as we speak.
Crean has been demoted to the back bench, pay cut, fewer support staff. Would he quit parliament altogether, and who would win a by-election in Hotham?
What an extraordinary day…. 😯
It’s fortunate that Rudd didn’t stand, watching this rabble destroy itself remains an important part of my entertainment.
Today`s entertainment was brought to you by, Simon, Kevin07, Mr-Rabbit, Joolya, Toolman, Barrie, the Canberra Press Gallery and the number 730.
Did you enjoy it.?
And Roopert.
The next round of polls should be interesting…
“The next round of polls should be interesting…”
Labor down. Gillard up. Rudd down. Abbott no change.
well folks, it just goes to show how much bullshit is peddled by zombie-media, with all their `secret-sauces` about leadership-speculation, is dumped upon the population, l hope today`s exercise makes everybody look harder at our, dishonest, stupid, zombie, embedded-media, instead of believing the bullshit they peddle
this week Labor has been a complete shambles. The media reported it. Are you suggesting the media made stuff up, 7.30? Or that the media made the pollies behave stupidly?
“The media reported it. Are you suggesting the media made stuff up, 7.30?”
Don’t bother Splatter
I’m convinced 730 believes he is living in some sort of Rupert Murdoch version of “The Truman Show”
So looks like we get a continuation of another day another policy disaster.
The ALPs version of Groundhog Day
730 is saying – ‘teabagsteabagsteabagsteabagsteabagsteabagsteabagsteabags’
That’s what he always says.
730 enjoys importing Americanisms into our lingo.
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Now, this should stop all the baseless media speculation, because obviously the ALP is fully, 110% united behind Our Julia.
`secret-sauces` belong in hamburgers, if your political news contains `secret-sauces` then it`s just burger, not a quality political news report
“`secret-sauces` belong in hamburgers, if your political news contains `secret-sauces` then it`s just burger, not a quality political news report”
I’m sure this would be the first order of business if Comrade Conroy’s media “reforms” had got up.
Tony Windsor is one to watch. I reckon he might think he’s a better chance in his seat now that the state independent Torbay has been forced to quit the running.
And Wilkie must be a good chance in Tasmania.
I would definitely vote for Wilkie if I was in his electorate.
And by siding with the Opposition this afternoon which would have resulted in a vote of confidence is Oakeshitt starting to realize he needs to buddy up to the LNP finally.
Crean’s mistake was to believe the Hate Media. Had there been a government-appointed watchdog in place all this baseless speculation wouldn’t have been allowed and Crean wouldn’t have got sucked in.
7:30’s frequent comments about teabagz are highly relevant and not at all annoying.
730 – “the bullsh!t they peddle”
That’s right, the media was reporting leadership tensions, and all the internal lobbying about that. There was none. Obviously.
Crean didn’t do anything to confirm this a challenge or to suggest any discontent within the party, nor did Fitzgibbon. The spill was just a formality to allow the caucus to show 120% support for Gillard. Everyone is now united right behind Our Prime Minister!!
It’s all a huge beat-up, just speculation by uninformed media. Why don’t they report the facts?
There was one positive to come out of todays events though: stabilidy in the Labor Pardy.
The day’s media circus was not a negative for the ALP at all. I think Crean’s stunt was a deliberate distraction. Otherwise the lead stories would have focused on Conroy’s failed attempt to muzzle the media or the dismal failure of the NBN to come anywhere near its targets.
Instead we have images of a strong feisty woman flexing her political muscle as she stands astride the national stage.
Teabags are free to believe what they want yomm. Including bad data. Teabags did not have the courage to make any predictions about todays events, not any correct predictions anyway. Teabags should scroll up this page to my Two predictions, the first at 131pm, the second at 257pm. Teabags need to understand, good data is way more important than noise.
“The day’s media circus was not a negative for the ALP at all. I think Crean’s stunt was a deliberate distraction.
Really SB?
I think it’s been a shambles. Next Tuesday’s Newspoll should be interesting..
Shorter 730 – ‘americanisms r us’
Tues`s noise-poll will be the same reb, Joolya down, Mr-Rabbit up, Alp down, Libz up, much opinion about `Leadership_under_Joolya_is_a_mess`, the usual bad data.
‘Crean’s stunt was a deliberate distraction.’
It crossed my mind at the time, but seemed unlikely. Nevertheless, for Simon its been an expensive stunt.
“Next Tuesday’s Newspoll should be interesting..”
And its only Thursday
Catching Up’s down at the cafe declaring it a win for Julia and a major loss for the media…
I wonder if she does stand up in her spare time? I’d pay to see her if she ever decided to do the Melbourne Comedy Festival.
Custard Rudd.
abc1 news says, Richard Marles resigned as parliament secretary
abc1, Leigh and Toolman do an hour from Canberra.
The teebagz are lickin ‘ their wounds today after Our Joolya showed ‘ em what she ‘ s made of.
abc1, Crean is facing up to Leigh, still not sorry.
Well today’s events prove without any shadow of a doubt, that if you want to read the news BEFORE IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS then The Daily Trash is your reliable news source…
WE KNEW THIS WAS HAPPENING A WEEK AGO…!!
https://thedailytrash.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/breaking-news-gillard-rudd-leadership-spill-currently-underway/
” loss for the media”
l would say today was one of those rare win/win events. The Alp win, was getting non-stop attention from the embedded media, when did that last happen. The media win, was endless hours of `content` for their content-farms, on their very favorite topic, `Leadership`Speculation`. The embedded media`s favorite form of Panto.
abc1, Leigh is grilling Emerson, claiming it is at an end. Leigh pressing the leadership questions.
This is especially so when Unionland thugs are the government.
As opposed to The Robber Barons – FFS!
Instead we have images of a strong feisty woman flexing her political muscle as she stands astride the national stage.
So what did you think of Maggie T then … sb? Honest answer now …
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Catching Up’s down at the cafe declaring it a win for Julia and a major loss for the media…
Even you can’t deny that sentiment … despite the “messenger” …
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Custard Rudd.
Yep, your right, James, Tip Custard and Kev Kustard … they all have one … although KK was PM for a bit 😉
abc1, Leigh and Toolman do an hour from Canberra.
Not on my fkn TV they don’t!!!
Is Craig Emerson about to start crying….? #730
abc1, Crean is facing up to Leigh, still not sorry.
AND nor should he be, 00700300 … he stood and was counted … a True Believer … where are the rest of them? Plotting their retirement gratuities?
FUCKWITS ALL! © ™ ®
Even you can’t deny that sentiment … despite the “messenger” …
Really?
The media has reported-
• widespread disgruntlement with Gillard’s leadership within the caucus
• senior ministers losing confidence in her
• pressure for a spill
• Rudd gaining numbers
Which bit did the media get wrong?
WE KNEW THIS WAS HAPPENING A WEEK AGO…!!
A Preemtive Strike! 🙄
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abc1, Leigh is grilling Emerson, claiming it is at an end. Leigh pressing the leadership questions
How fkn boring … and I like(ed) Ms Sales …
Thanks for the heads up … luckily I live in Queensland .. the land of God’s Time … Not Made Up Shit 🙂
abc1, Xenaphon and Milne giving Joolya`s mob a good kicking. Milne says, Labor voters should have a good look at the Greens.
” So what did you think of Maggie T then”
can l say `cnut` on TV.?
Catching Up’s down at the cafe declaring it a win for Julia and a major loss for the media …
Which bit did the media get wrong?
Julia Gillard IS the PM … and the media (and you) expected a major spill … and change of leader … if you didn’t ToMMy … then your posts for the last three years have been “misleading” to say the least!
Let’s look at your post
The media has reported-
• widespread disgruntlement with Gillard’s leadership within the caucus
• senior ministers losing confidence in her
• pressure for a spill
• Rudd gaining numbers
1. yes … but she still leads the party after a spill that Julia Gillard CALLED … she is the Prime Minister … respect that!
2. Well we know of one – and he’s now been sacked … despite what I said above out Crean … had I been Gillard … I would have sacked him too …
3. There was a spill – end of game … pressure from press …
4. Rudd is a Dudd … I agree with James – Kevin Kustard … want to run My country you front up! You don’r playe silly buggers with the lives of my family at YOUR pleasure … I threw the same (and still do) at Tip Custard …
I don’t really care about tyhe BS – actions speak louder that words … that’s why you know more about my background than I do of yours! You failed MY challenge …
Why do we always have to have a lesbian playing a guitar song whenever there’s an apology…..?
(Not that there’s anytihng wrong with that)…
Agree Re, and what was with the white dude in some sort of bearskin blowing smoke everywhere?
119pm ” Gillard is finished (I hope)”
ha-ha Teabag prediction
‘a lesbian playing a guitar song’ 😯
Did the media predict that Rudd would win a ballot?
All they did was report the facts that there was a huge amount of speculation and disgruntlement in Gillard. The facts have proven them to be correct.
americanisms r us – is expressing a hope a prediction?
Could we have another spill in May? It was such good fun, the webthingys went bananas.
Abbott must be breathing a sigh of relief.
” Could we have another spill in May? It was such good fun, the webthingys went bananas.”
Wish granted. 🙂
Somone shoulda told Crean “Ya doin it rong!”
can l say `cnut` on TV.?
Yer quicker than, sb, to reply o37 …
Why do we always have to have a lesbian playing a guitar song whenever there’s an apology…..?
Please explain?
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All they did was report the facts that there was a huge amount of speculation and disgruntlement in Gillard. The facts have proven them to be correct.
And I took all that time to reply to your BS … 🙄
And no “reply” … just … well we were right … 🙄
Well you weren’t … 🙄
Julia Gillard is PM … suck it up Princess … 🙄
Tip ToM? … or ToM Kustard? … I’ll think about it …
Somone shoulda told Crean “Ya doin it rong!”
Not in my books, yer, Wally!
TB, the press didn’t get it wrong. That’s the critical point that you seemed to contest. They were reporting the internal ructions and manoeuvring quite accurately. They were reporting that cabinet ministers were losing confidence in Gillard.
The press didn’t predict a Rudd win.
So what part of their reporting was so wrong?
Well, I’m quietly chuckling at today’s events. My only concern has been Rudd reclaiming leadership, calling a snap-election, and collapsing over the line while the ALP benefits from a short-term “sugar hit”. A long shot, but possible.
But it looks like they stuck with Gillard, and they are likely to get a well-deserved wipeout in September!
124pm ” Go Rudd!! “
ha ha Teabag prediction
“Not Like That ” ain’t me by the way
Anyway after the total fucking disaster this week has been for Gillard then Rudd will never get the caucus numbers.
How thoroughly entertaining. 730 replies to the events of the day with repetition of an americanism!
Gillard: “This whole madder has now been seddled.”
I see some ALP supporters are saying Rudd is trying to undermine the PM and how evil this is. These same people are the ones who voted for Rudd in 2007 who was then knifed by Gillard. Rudd didn’t even make it to the next election. These ALP supporters quickly changed their allegiance from Rudd to Gillard.
They now thoroughly deserve total elimination
I think Kevin has pissed off a lot of caucus support today.
Cannon fodder !
The Circus paused, the dogs barked, and the circus moves onward to September.
Teabags prefer bad data, good luck to them. For those interested in seeing some of their bullshit caught out, here is Limited-News blatantly telling lies to their punters.
http://australiansforhonestpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/shanahan-and-bolt-doctor-a-quote-to-accuse-conroy-of-doctoring-a-quote-welcome-to-murdoch-news/
Chris Bowen and Kim Carr will also get the sack if they don’t walk
‘Richard Marles resigned as Parliamentary Secretary for Foreign Affairs. Joel Fitzgibbon, who was Mr Rudd’s chief numbers man, Ed Husic and Janelle Saffin, all resigned as whips.’
Smith, on the other hand, is an ardent brown nose supporter of the incumbent and will make an excellent PM in a decade or more.
Smith will lose his seat at the election. So will Swan.
That’s true Sancty, so why the misplaced loyalty?
The most hilarious point in all this is the way ALP barrackers have turned on their enemies. In this case that means other ALP MPs.
Looks like Kev’s done.
Vote 1 – Informal
TB, my comment was a quote demonstrating Labor and Green Senators at the senate committee showing their true motivation by citing editorial and comment pieces critical of them, and then noting: “This is especially so when Unionland thugs are the government.
Your reply was “As opposed to The Robber Barons – FFS!”
I guess it is at least theoretically possible that you will one day lose your “look over there” tic one day and actually start addressing the substance of my comments.
Also, I noted: “Instead we have images of a strong feisty woman flexing her political muscle as she stands astride the national stage.”
Your reply was: “So what did you think of Maggie T then … sb? Honest answer now …”
I as actually serious about that comment. As I said earlier in this thread Gillard’s personal numbers will go up as a result of yesterday.
Maggie T saved her country which, before she took over, was almost a death’s door with the British disease. It was a Unionland basket case. That is why she ruled for so long. It is sad to see the Conservatives now led by that leftist pantywaist Cameron.
Yer quicker than, sb, to reply o37 …
Says he who was MIA most of yesterday! It was my daughter’s birthday dinner last night. You would certainly wouldn’t be wasting your time replying to me in such circumstances. I enjoy our exchanges but usually they just degenerate into a toss-off for wanker of the week!
Gordo, I am absolutely fcked if I know.
I think the internal hatred of Rudd is must be something the likes of us don’t quite understand, although his conduct yesterday speaks volumes.
I suspect Gillard has about 30 loyal supporters, and Rudd something similar. The problem might be the waverers can’t settle on an alternative and would rather go off a cliff with Gillard than ever support a return to Rudd.
It’d be funny if it wasn’t so serious. The conduct of the Indies is equally baffling.
James, caucus knows it is Thelma or Louise scenario. They know Rudd is deeply flawed and he is (rightly) hated for his arrogant leadership style. David Marr had him to rights in his Quarterly essay – a psycho driven by anger.
“The conduct of the Indies is equally baffling.”
Windsor and Oakeshott were just look for plausible deniability that they are Labor stooges. Wilkie hates Gilllard because he has been used and abused by that prevaricating power-crazed mountebank.
“The conduct of the Indies is equally baffling.”
It was pointed out on Skynews last night that they only voting for the Suspension of Standing Orders so that a debate could be begin on a Vote of No Confidence.
So they were voting to agree to debate the matter that’s all. They would have ultimately voted with the Government.
It seems with so much happening at the same time many including me jumped to the wrong conclusion at the time.
I suspect Robert McLelland will be resigning soon since Kev is effectively Kaput at least for the time being if not permanently.
“a psycho driven by anger”
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Chris Bowen has just resigned.
By conduct of the Indies, I meant their apparent willingness to continue to support such a woefully bad government.
This week’s example? The media laws.
Bowen Goin? Another one bites the dust.
Gillard outsmarted Rudd’s supporters, and Rudd outsmarted himself.
The question is whether he has poisoned his chances of taking over after Gillard gets booted in September. This may depend on who the remaining members are. Presumably those with the safest seats and senate ticket positions will be the most loyal faction apparatchiks, so the moon-faced loon will probably will not succeed.
‘…absolutely fcked if I know.’
Apparently Rudd was ruthless and their fear of him has not abated.
After the election a Labor rump joins a Green rump and becomes the alternative coalition.
Says he who was MIA most of yesterday!
He who spent the day helping his grandaughter with a school project … great fun … and a no-brainer to being here … 😉
Birthday wishes to your daughter … and I agree – see above 🙂
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As for my replies to your comments … you might notice that I don’t use the colourful language you aspire to … I guess my replies are based on providing a “balance” to your — outbursts of passion and anger ….
… thus my question re Maggie T … I can assure you your, “POV”, concerning her reign, is not held in the UK … particularly in the North …
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It’d be funny if it wasn’t so serious. The conduct of the Indies is equally baffling.
There is a long held belief by many politicians that Parliaments should run their full term … for what should be obvious reasons … us plebs would get pretty pissed off going to the polls every 18 months .. and it costs a fortune to pay for infrastructure of election … early elections need to stand up to a CBA/ROI surely …
Chris Bowen will need the extra time to be a local member again because he would be struggling to hold onto his Western Sydney seat of McMahon.
Jason Clare ,Ed Husic, Daryl Melham and David Bradbury will also become political roadkill
I don’t mind paying for the election infrastructure, its small beer in comparison to a certain tax.
If the polls show labor will be wiped out in six months, wouldn’t it be cheaper to have an election now?
Polls are good for democracy… its the people’s voice and should be respected.
In fact it just goes to show how thick Bradbury (a Gillard supporter) is that he even thinks he will hold onto his seat whilst Gillard is PM
There is a long held belief by many politicians that Parliaments should run their full term … for what should be obvious reasons … us plebs would get pretty pissed off going to the polls every 18 months .. and it costs a fortune to pay for infrastructure of election … early elections need to stand up to a CBA/ROI surely …
I would agree with you in most cases. This is not most cases. This Government is riddled with corruption. It is riddled with incompetence. It is riddled with deceit. It is riddled with disunity. And the disunity, except perhaps for the one bloke prepared to take a stand yesterday, is not motivated by any sense of the wellbeing of the nation but by the simple political manouverings of unelected union officials.
Gillard’s face is on the front page of today’s Age. Look into her eyes. They are soulless.
Does the Left really inhabit some sort of weird vortex devoid of all reality or does Catching Up now write for Fairfax………………
“…………….Thursday showed Gillard’s toughness and her coolness under intense pressure. This is an asset that Australians of all stripes should appreciate. It’s what we need in a leader. A person who is not prone to panic.
The trouble is Australians are not used to such toughness in a woman and there are plenty who feel uncomfortable with it. Gillard revealed recently,……, that she felt women in politics needed to be as tough, if not tougher, than the men. Not for her the notion that women should make politics kinder and gentler.
Being a tough female prime minister makes Gillard a unique target but, as Thursday showed, no matter what is thrown at her, she stands firm. Many of us might find this unpalatable (especially as it contradicts our stereotyped notion of how women should behave). But my guess is that the judgment of history will be very different.”
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/judgment-of-history-will-be-kinder-to-pm-than-tv-news-cycle-20130321-2girw.html#ixzz2OE2pXAgz
ROFLMAO
Ann Summers.
Rudd reckons he won’t ever be leader again. I’ll believe that when he chooses no longer to represent Griffith.
“It’s just got to be about the Australian people. You see the prime minister is focussed on herself and survival. She’s not focussed on the national interest.”
Tony Abbott
Like Abbott isn’t focussed purely on taking the Throne. 🙄
We have a huge, tumultuous day, loss of senior ministers, a former leader switching support…but ALP barrackers say – ‘why aren’t we talking about the positives of the government?’
Even worse, I’ve read that some think all of the icky stuff simply wouldn’t happen…if the government just rammed through some laws to strangle the hate media.
No matter what happens, the limpets (on both sides, but more the ALP in this case) have a way of internally rationalising even the biggest piles of faeces into a net win for their team. Impressive levels of self deception at work.
“Thursday showed Gillard’s toughness and her coolness under intense pressure.”
Indeed she did. She is very good at dealing with party machinations. It is how she got the job in the first place after all. I just wish she was as good at being PM as she is at getting and defending the position.
“Rudd reckons he won’t ever be leader again.”
He is probably right. But it is a long time until September and he may not be seen as such a gutless quisling by then.
“No matter what happens, the limpets (on both sides, but more the ALP in this case) have a way of internally rationalising even the biggest piles of faeces into a net win for their team. Impressive levels of self deception at work.”
Isn’t that the truth. Even more extraordinary is that the barrackers are so keen to fall into line that the self-deception becomes even more entrenched.
“Even more extraordinary is that the barrackers are so keen to fall into line that the self-deception becomes even more entrenched.”
That’s what never fails to amaze me…
marn fersun has rezgnded from the cbnt.
Geezus, when viewed collectively, there’s a lot of experienced heads on the back bench.
‘Like Abbott isn’t focused purely on taking the Throne.’
Its a dream run, all he has to do is keep his foot out of mouth.
‘Impressive levels of self deception at work.’
A heightened sense of mass delusion, terrifying to behold. History will not be kind to joolya and her role in the end game for this once great party.
The PM should man up, step aside with Rudd and both give up all claim to the throne. Let the caucus decide a new leader and deputy to win the election.
“Its a dream run, all he has to do is keep his foot out of mouth.”
The probability of him doing that as least once = certainty.
The probability of it getting reported in Murdoch media when he does, would be close to equalling zero.
‘The probability’ is that he will remain a small target, with the help of his minders.
On the Murdoch stable going quiet on tabits occasional errors of judgement, usually associated with throw away lines, we’ll have to wait and see. Fairfax and the ABC certainly won’t be holding back.
“………the limpets (on both sides, but more the ALP in this case) have a way of internally rationalising even the biggest piles of faeces into a net win for their team………”
Yes …………………..the Crystal Carwash of Mass Turd Polishing
“limpets”………………….?
Where is TomR these days ?
Rudd has called a press conference for 4:15pm
Will he pull his jacket back to reveal a political improvised explosive device in the form of a byelection.
Rudd has a press conference to anounce he will continue to represent the seat of Griffith.
Remember how the f**kwits used to say- ‘we can’t have Rudd back, because too many ministers wouldn’t serve’
Congratulations to the f**kwits. They’ve now got more talent on the back bench than in the cabinet.
Rudd, McClelland, Bowen, Crean, Fitzgibbon…all on their arses on the back bench.
On the front bench we have…Gillard and Swan.
F**kwits.
Don’t forget Furgy.
And Carr
And when is that stupid Scot going to resign? Oh that’s right he isn’t a minister, just an incoherent motormouth.
Don’t forget Furgy.
GONE!
They are true f**kwits.
Remember when Crean was going to be a huge loss if Rudd returned? Now the f**kwits are dancing on his grave. .
It really is hilarious to see Catching Up attack members of the parliamentary ALP with the level of vigour usually reserved for Abbott. A genuine dill.
‘A genuine dill.’
In fact, a closet watermelon. The party has an infestation of them and they must be rooted out …along with Unionland.
Wandered past the cafe and noticed scaper, (who I once referred to as a nasty piece of work) was pummelling the old dear.
He’s a lot more steady these days and appears to be the last troll standing at that place. So he probably deserves a medal.
So he probably deserves a medal.
Wash your mouth out – immediately!*
Before toillette turns up!
(* in your defence, egg, you sound as if you don’t know why – but – wosh yo mouf out! …)
Yep, I’m aware of the history, but when you get to know him he’s not all that bad.
No. Watermelons have some principles, a belief system.
Catching Up has nothing like that. She just makes it up, minute by minute. The next post is likely to contradict her last one. But she’s oblivious to all the inconsistency.
I’m off for a big dose of good red.
I’m off for a big dose of good red.
I would have thought you already had one … well, maybe not good … 🙂
‘Watermelons have some principles’
Yeah….
In regards to CU its possibly not wise to denigrate her with gusto, now that Iain has stupidly revealed her true identity.
“Remember how the f**kwits used to say- ‘we can’t have Rudd back, because too many ministers wouldn’t serve’”
I am not a Labor supporter but i think i said something like that myself. If Rudd did become PM again the people who did not resign this time may have resigned if Rudd became PM.
It does not look like a united Party.
Since we know they get on quite well For a moment this afternoon I thought Rudd was about to join the Katter Party
That would have made my year and filled it to the brim with laughter.
Besides topping off a great week for Gillard
And the second winner of the week is the ALPs biggest fucking idiot incompetent.
Failed Censorship Bills and a disastrous rollout of the NBN.
I give you Senator Conroy
What a fuckwit he is.
But he keeps his job as though nothing happened.
I am not a Labor supporter
LOL!
this is an interesting round-up of yesterdays much ado about nothing
http://alpineopinion.com/2013/03/22/how-simon-creaned-rudd-again-and-the-rest-of-australia/
” One by one the unnamed sources approached the microphones in the blue room and one by one they exposed themselves. For months, you couldn’t find a paper without a story from one of those unnamed sources. Each time landing body blows to the PM and the party as a whole.”
http://ashghebranious.wordpress.com/2013/03/22/its-time-to-stop-talking-about-kevin/
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fresh off the wordpress, another round-up of yesterday, quite funny
Conroy –
• NBN – over budget, behind schedule, lower take up rates
• Media – failed backed down, crisis of confidence in his leader
With that track record of success, Conroy is a potential ALP Prime Minister!!
It is so humiliating.
A back bench with all the talent. A front bench with Gillard and Swan.
A woman who speaks atrociously, and a dill of a deputy who just waffles. Does the PM of Cyprus need a job?
“I won’t flinch… I’d prefer to f**k the party”
I am so glad Gillard & Co survived
I was almost suicidal when Seinfeld ended.
Now I vdont want anyone to think I have gone all Lefty but I thought this was interesting in regard to Toilets favourite person.
I’d totally forgotten about this. Too many pino noirs as I watch the most amazing light show over The Tasman sea
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Independent_(Perth)
So now you see the family resemblance ?
Quite interesting the way daughter follows dad.
Not judging just find it interesting
Que?
It’s unreal. This week it was the media laws. Last week it was 457s. Next week it will be non cost overruns.
Behind the scenes there’s HSU, AWU, ICAC.
Every day we have Swan polishing turds, and he can’t even polish right.
And we have that soulless person as PM droning on day in day out.
She doesn’t enjoy broad Party support. Just the support of those whose hatred of Rudd overpowers their will to save some seats at the election.
But it’s the fault of the hate meeja.
*nbn cost overruns.
‘…and one by one they exposed themselves.’
It really is disgraceful.
True to form, joolya will break any agreement to survive. This complete lack of integrity suggests she is not to be trusted under any circumstances.
‘INDEPENDENTS Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott will meet Julia Gillard tomorrow and demand to know whether a $1 billion regional infrastructure program is being used to pork-barrel in western Sydney.
‘The regional NSW independents, who made the fund a condition of their support for the minority Labor government after the 2010 election, have expressed outrage over revelations that western Sydney organisations were given a second chance to apply for project funding during the Prime Minister’s western Sydney blitz last week.’
Milanda Rout in the Oz
MISOGYNISTS & VIPERS!
Clearly on the basis of the definition applied by Miglo & Catching Up –
• A third of cabinet are misogynists and vipers
• As are about 40% of the total ALP MPs
Now Albanese, one of the key vipers, remains the rotten apple in Gillard’s new, improved ministry.
‘The Galaxy poll, published in the Sunday Telegraph, found 71 per cent believed the office of the prime minister had been damaged by the infighting and aborted coup against 21 per who said it had not.’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/leadership-coup-thrashed-pms-office-20130324-2gni9.html#ixzz2OQ0H4Nmv
The 21 percent are ‘rusted on’ and not rational. This type of thinking is prevalent at some left wing blogs.
” This type of thinking is prevalent at some left wing blogs.”
Politics is very much like religion. Facts are irrelevant. People either have a correct belief or an incorrect belief. How many people have changed their opinions on anything on this blog for example??
It does not matter how much debt “The Goose” creates, Labor supporters will just say Swan was unlucky because of the GFC. They will also say that Costello got lucky because of the mining boom or whatever else they can think up.
How many people have changed their opinions on anything on this blog for example??
There is an heirarchy between moron, idiot, imbecile and cretin, and I can never remember how it goes … just sayin’
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“There is an heirarchy between moron, idiot, imbecile and cretin, and I can never remember how it goes … just sayin’”
This is a typical comment from an ALP supporter. They ridicule anyone who does not share their beliefs.
Character assignation is another weapon. But the main weapon ALP supporters use is the slur. They slur anyone who does not share their beliefs.
Just revolting and immoral human beings
The barrackers now hate about 40% of their own MPs, they hate Rudd, Ferguson, Bowen etc with as much gusto as Abbott.
But while many experienced ministers were trying to provide the ALP with a chance of success in the election, the barrackers are still trying to figure out how it was all manipulated by “the media”.
Those descriptors seem to apply, but I’m not sure there is any hierarchy among them, it is all just bizarre, dumb nonsense coming from them.
And Neil of Sydney is proof that it is not just applicable to ALP supporters, but rather it’s true of whichever side, any particular idiot favours.
So you go the rigmarole, and then prove you are no different, with your last sentence.
You revolting immoral human being.
Me too!!
Nils is acknowledging that we have a problem, but swing voters are different and open to persuasion.
“And Neil of Sydney is proof that it is not just applicable to ALP supporters”
I told you, politics is very much like religion. You either have correct beliefs or incorrect beliefs and facts are irrelevant.
But ALP policies do not work. In a burst of morality the ALP got rid of Howards Pacific Solution. And what do we get?? Thousands of economic refugees willing to pay $10,000 and risk their lives for permanent residence while thousands of genuine refugees cannot get into Australia. Permanently stuck in a refugee camp.
The ALP religion is a false religion, full of false beliefs and teachings.
And the biggest false prophet of all was Kevin Rudd. He convinced half the Australian population to vote for him in 2007
The main reason that the ALP is so open to so much criticism is that it raised people’s expectations on political integrity (for political opportunity), and then set about walking away from each of the commitments.
The ALP has been the cause of a generation of young cynics. Normally the youth are idealists, but not this time. They are more cynical about politics and leadership than any previous (in my experience). That’s the legacy that Gillard will leave.
This is a typical comment from an ALP supporter. They ridicule anyone who does not share their beliefs.
I was commenting on an issue I was struggling with and you made it personal … stupid is as stupid does …
Cretin…. IQ 70-85
Moron ….IQ 55-70
Imbecile..IQ 40-55
Idiot…….IQ under 40
Just sayin’ …
BTW, I think you’ll find most regulars here have changed their minds (often more than once – given good argument) … and most apologise if incorrect …
There’s only one rusted on barracker, I can think of that drops into, TDT … and never apologises if caught out … well a couple actually … 😉
I told you, politics is very much like religion. You either have correct beliefs or incorrect beliefs and facts are irrelevant.
Yep, most godbotherers lie, cheat, steal, are decietful and confess once a week to a complete …… stranger … and come out all pure and sweet again for the next week … religion is a wonderful way to live …
Cretin…. IQ 70-85
Moron ….IQ 55-70
Imbecile..IQ 40-55
Idiot…….IQ under 40
At least those “other” sites pander to their target demographics.
“Yep, most godbotherers lie, cheat, steal, are decietful”
You must be talking about ALP politicians in particular Wayne Swan
http://www.budget.gov.au/2012-13/content/speech/html/speech.htm
“The four years of surpluses I announce tonight are a powerful endorsement of the strength of our economy, resilience of our people, and success of our policies.
In an uncertain and fast‑changing world, we walk tall — as a nation confidently living within its means.
This Budget delivers a surplus this coming year, on time, as promised, and surpluses each year after that, strengthening over time.”
Libs…. IQ 70-85
ALP ….IQ 55-70
Greens..IQ 40-55
Wayne Swan…….IQ under 40
sb,
I think the only, Treasurer, who actually DID anything was PJK … oh how we were spoilt in those days … even with the 16% (luckily 😆 ours was capped at 13%) …
And Hawke’s Economic Summit and subsequent Accord meetings …
TB, I have a high opinion of Keating as treasurer. At least Costello left office with a surplus, something no Labor treasurer has ever done or is ever likely to do. If we had Swan as treasurer during the Costello years we would have been deeply in debt.
John Dawkins did a good job too.
The main varriable in how they leave the economy, will be how the digital dividend goes. They don’t seen to be saying allot about it in the press. They staked the farm on this but if it’s like everthing else they touch, it will turn to shit.
But if the attack poodle on insiders is correct the government won’t see out it’s turn. He sounded quite confident and I thought he spoke quite well (almost like they are already in). Obviously they are going to work on the independants, and Chris is going to give Peter a good rogering to see if that will bring he back over.
I think outlander can speak in tongues! 😯
sreb, will love that! 🙂
sb, Costello just sat around counting the money as it rolled in … he even got that wrong and “lost” $10 billion!
Howard’s lot didn’t actually “achieve” much in 12+ except a couple of wars and a surplus … I reckon I could do that … probably not the wars … just a bigger surplus … 😉
And if the little, Snot of Sydney, turns up, my comments are bipartisan bipartisan …
A TICK FOR TURNBULL!
They always said Costello wasn’t much good at maths.
Howard introduced GST, I remeber at the time I was just setting up my business, I said the sky would fall in….but it didn’t.
Not a bad legacy really. The only problem is Tony’s going to struggle with income and raising the GST is one of his only options to get hard cash. Everyone will say the sky is falling in again….but it wont.
I will put pressure on some. It kinda sucks being a Tax Collector. Prices will go up 5%ish I guess.