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HAMMER HORROR FILMS PRESENTS: THE CABINET OF THE DREGS!

March 25, 2013

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The Australian Federal Labor Party Presents!

In conjunction with Hammer Horror Films…

“THE CABINET OF THE DREGS”

Starring:

  • Gary Gray
  • Jason Clare
  • Matt Thistlethwaite
  • Amanda Rishworth

And many other people you’ve never heard of before!

The exciting fun filled news from Gillard Hammer Productions never stops!

Today Gary Gray joins the Cabinet as Minister for Resources and Energy, Minister for Tourism and Minister for Small Business.

He has been a tireless advocate for business in his own community and in Western Australia and will bring that purpose to promoting the interests of the tourism sector and small business.

His current roles as Special Minister of State and Minister for the Public Service and Integrity will be taken by the Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus.

Jason Clare joins Cabinet as a full member while retaining his current responsibilities.

Anthony Albanese is promoted and takes on the critical role of Minister for Regional Development and Local Government, taking over the work done by Minister Crean across regional Australia since the 2010 election.

Anthony has previously held these portfolio responsibilities and they neatly complement his existing role as Minister for Infrastructure and Transport.

He will be supported by Catherine King in the Outer Ministry as Minister for Regional Services, Local Communities and Territories, and as Minister for Road Safety.

Tony Burke adds Arts to his existing portfolio work. He has a longstanding interest in the arts and was a keen recruit to the task.

He will be assisted by Michael Danby as his Parliamentary Secretary whose lifelong commitment to the arts started when, as a teenager, he worked in his mother’s art gallery.

The critical human capital and productivity portfolio of Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Science and Research will be taken by Craig Emerson. Craig will retain his current roles as Minister for Trade and Competiveness and Minister Assisting the Prime Minister on Asian Century Policy.

Craig will be assisted by two junior Ministers – Don Farrell, as Minister for Science and Research and Sharon Bird as Minister for Higher Education and Skills.

As part of today’s changes, the Department of Climate Change will be merged with the Industry Department and will become the Department of Industry, Innovation, Climate Change, Science, Research and Tertiary Education.

As such, Greg Combet is now the Minister for Climate Change, Industry and Innovation and his Parliamentary Secretary, Yvette D’Ath will also have a revised title.

Jan McLucas is appointed Minister for Human Services. Jan is a very experienced Parliamentarian, having served as a Shadow Minister and as a Parliamentary Secretary since 2007. I am delighted that I have been able to promote Jan to this role.

Don Farrell will also be Minister Assisting on Tourism, and Bernie Ripoll will be Parliamentary Secretary for Small Business, both in Minister Gray’s portfolio.

Andrew Leigh will be Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister. Andrew will bring to this post his distinguished academic record in public policy and economics.

Matt Thistlethwaite becomes Parliamentary Secretary for Pacific Island Affairs and Parliamentary Secretary for Multicultural Affairs. Matt strengthens our team with his ability to focus on the large multi-cultural communities in Sydney.

Amanda Rishworth, a great local campaigner, becomes Parliamentary Secretary for Sustainability and Urban Water, retaining that portfolio in South Australia. She will also be Parliamentary Secretary for Disabilities and Carers.

Shayne Neumann MP, who before his parliamentary career established and ran a successful law firm, will be Parliamentary Secretary to the Attorney-General and Parliamentary Secretary for Health and Ageing…!!

 

 

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326 Comments leave one →
  1. March 25, 2013 2:44 pm

    PM admits being ‘appalled’ as new cabinet announced…

    http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2013/s3722861.htm

  2. March 25, 2013 2:44 pm

    Well I give it 5 stars!! And it’s a ruddy good move, if you ask me!!

  3. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 25, 2013 2:46 pm

    Gee, all those people seem so nice. I’m sure they’re all as great as Crean, Ferguson, Bowen, McClelland, Carr, Rudd…

    (I think I may have referred to be B team earlier I was too complimentary, we’ve got the F team)

  4. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 25, 2013 3:23 pm

    What a team Gillard has assembled!

    With a ministry brimming with the of talent like these household names, it’s no wonder Crean, Rudd, Carr, Bowen, McClelland etc… all deserve to be on the back bench!
    • Catherine King
    • Michael Danby
    • Don Farrell
    • Sharon Bird;
    • Jan McLucas
    • Bernie Ripoll
    • Andrew Leigh
    • Matt Thistlethwaite
    • Amanda Rishworth;
    • Shayne Neumann

  5. el gordo permalink
    March 25, 2013 3:31 pm

    Gary Gray is sitting pretty to become head of the party after joolya departs, whenever that may be, and thank the gods he’s taking over small and very small business.

    The body politik promotes albo (a known plotter) to the regions. This strikes me as funny but don’t know why.

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    March 25, 2013 3:33 pm

    Last straw fer me …

  7. TB Queensland permalink
    March 25, 2013 3:37 pm

    Oops hit the go button by mistake!

    Last straw fer me …

    Ms Gillard also defended her appearance yesterday with radio shock jock Kyle Sandilands at Kirribilli House saying she was simply helping out sick kids.

    Is she referring to Sandilands?

    I mean, help out sick kids by all means BUT insist that it won’t be with the biggest boofhead in town!

    Julia Gillard IS the PM …

    This government has no idea about “image” and PR …

  8. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 25, 2013 3:40 pm

    “Is she referring to Sandilands?”

    Quip of the day!

  9. March 25, 2013 7:44 pm

    Reb, as much as I love a good Hammer horror film I think that the Gillard shambles is far more reminiscent of more recent efforts like Shaun of the dead

    Really when you get down to it you really could not write a believable farce with the events of the last five years and surely for you minions of the left it might be apt to invoke this scene:

  10. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 25, 2013 7:49 pm

    Leigh Sales asked Julia Gillard some difficult questions.

    Leigh Sales is a misogynist.

  11. TB Queensland permalink
    March 25, 2013 7:58 pm

    Leigh Sales is a misogynist.

    Tom of Melbourne is a Mysoginistic Wanker™©®€ …

    FYI, I like Leigh Sales … Dickwit©

  12. March 25, 2013 8:13 pm

    Joolya

  13. March 25, 2013 8:16 pm

    Mr-Rabbit

  14. TB Queensland permalink
    March 25, 2013 8:31 pm

    Quip of the day!

    Oh! You generous thing you! 😳

  15. March 25, 2013 8:33 pm

    With Rod

  16. March 25, 2013 8:35 pm

    Rod said,

  17. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 25, 2013 8:37 pm

    Oh Albo….

    “No really, it was just a therapeutic massage. Truly!!”

  18. A Smith permalink
    March 25, 2013 9:03 pm

    For those who don’t know Professor Andrew Leigh.

    http://andrewleigh.org/research.htm

    http://andrewleigh.org/pdf/CV.pdf

    Possibly the most published member of the parliament ever, which doesn’t make him a good politician but his achievements shouldn’t be simply waved away.

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    March 25, 2013 9:31 pm

    … which doesn’t make him a good politician but his achievements shouldn’t be simply waved away.

    I just read the summary of two of Prof. Leigh’s papers …. so …

    No it doesn’t make him anything like a good politician … A Smith … it just makes him another anally retentive academic who should be in university not swanning around Parliament to make his Curriculum Vitae look better … at our expense … waste of real space …

    We want doers in Parliament, not horizontal thinkers!

    What a waste of taxpayer’s our collective donations …

    Sorry, what was the point your were making? 🙄

  20. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 25, 2013 9:36 pm

    Meanwhile over at the house of intellectual lightweights (AIMN)…

    Miglo – Dirk doesn’t strike me as being an intellectual heavyweight.

    Which is fortunate for Dirk, it will probably ensure he isn’t banned.

  21. outlander permalink
    March 25, 2013 9:41 pm

    What do Pervez Musharraf and Julia have in common?
    They both have suicide squads going after them.

    Who’ll be the first to go?

  22. March 25, 2013 9:47 pm

    you`re ignoring the teabags again, they deserve quality content too

  23. March 25, 2013 9:48 pm

    Judy agrees

  24. March 25, 2013 9:52 pm

    Teabag Kelly Odwyer is saying the public is sick of `divisional` and `devisive` politics. Many loud LOLs coming from audience when Kelly claims Mr-Rabbit is too. #qandaland

  25. Evil Walrus permalink
    March 25, 2013 10:36 pm

    So now the dust and shrapnel have settled when will McClelland pull the pin and deny Gillard another vote since there won’t be a by election in his seat.

    O’Farrell will personally deliver the employment contract and a bottle of champagne I’m sure.

  26. el gordo permalink
    March 25, 2013 11:00 pm

    So McClelland is still thinking about quitting early and forcing a byelection?

  27. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 7:45 am

    Barry O’Farrell remains popular in NSW and once again we see less than a quarter of the electorate is ‘rusted on’ to the union party.

    ‘The Nielsen poll reveals only 23 per cent of those surveyed would give NSW Labor their primary vote – a result that will compound fears about the party’s prospects at the federal election on September 14.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/all-sweet-as-labor-sours-20130325-2gqb5.html#ixzz2OaOpWaM4

  28. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:05 am

    Its easy to see why joolya is unpopular with the working poor and layabouts.

    ‘Research by Lynne Chester from the University of Sydney found 75 per cent of low income families were reducing their expenditure on food because of soaring energy costs.
    National electricity prices are projected to rise by 14 per cent this financial year.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/families-going-without-food-and-medicine-to-pay-the-bills-20130325-2gq2e.html#ixzz2OaTGd7wC

  29. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:10 am

    ‘Labor’s primary vote has slumped five points to a disastrous 30 per cent’ according to Newspoll.

  30. March 26, 2013 8:15 am

    “Miglo – Dirk doesn’t strike me as being an intellectual heavyweight.”

    Isn’t that the price of admission over there?

    It’s certainly never stopped Catching Up….

  31. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 26, 2013 9:10 am

    If Miglo suggests that Dirk “is no intellectual heavyweight” he’s found the site that is tailor made to that expectation. Anything that is moderately intelligent (and polite) is banned by Miglo. The huge range of sock puppets there is a testament to his tireless efforts in sock puppetry though.

  32. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 26, 2013 9:11 am

    McClelland missed out on the job.

    How does an ex Federal Government Attorney General miss out on a lowly Judges position. ?

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/labor-mp-robert-mcclelland-fails-in-bid-for-nsw-judge-job/story-e6freuy9-1226605851963

  33. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 26, 2013 9:19 am

    Meanwhile, Leigh Sales is copping it!!

    Though I’ve not seen anyone else suggest that she’s a misogynist, which surprises me.

    Leigh asked Gillard some questions, and when Gillard tried to evade them, Leigh asked the question again, in a slightly different way. Apparently it is disrespectful and outrageous to ask questions of “Our” Prime Minister in this way.

    Leigh should know better than to ask questions in a way that will offend participants at CW and TPS.
    —————–
    However, I note that the latest poll has the ALP languishing! Clearly this can have nothing to do with Gillard who has done a sterling job in the past week.

    • Media laws retreat
    • NBN behind schedule, with low take up rates
    • Lack of confidence from her most experienced ministers
    • 40% of her own party want someone else

    Gillard has a great opportunity to do something, but she has no idea what.

  34. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 9:58 am

    “Gillard has a great opportunity to do something, but she has no idea what.”

    She should resign and promise never to lead the ALP again, after acknowledging that her great skill in ALP machinations and her utter failure as a PM have been a disaster for her party. She is the epitome of a Shakespearean tragedy – now in the final act she is exposed as hollowed out wreck of a human being. Having abandoned every last shred of decency and of principle she can go no lower. Come September she will be remembered as but a great stinking turd – so pungent in the bowl, so easily flushed away.

  35. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:16 am

    All is very simple in hindsight but given her training in the Socialist Forum we should not be at all surprised to have a lying grub for a PM. Only Lee Rhiannon could give her a run for her money.

    Does anyone out there think that John Howard would have won his first election if he’d been exposed as a former member of the Young Fascists or something like that. ?

  36. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:18 am

    Old commo good, old fascist bad. History is written by the left.

  37. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:59 am

    ‘How does an ex Federal Government Attorney General miss out on a lowly Judges position. ?’

    Anything tainted Labor is unemployable. Frank Sartor couldn’t even get the job as Council Manager on the Central Coast.

    Funny how things turn out.

  38. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:05 am

    The Forum was just a debating club where they reached a consensus to enter the main stream and seize power. That worked a treat, but where to now?

  39. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:19 am

    Somehow this comment from Catching up says it all…

    ”We do nort act stupid.”

  40. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:21 am

    “The Forum was just a debating club where they reached a consensus to enter the main stream and seize power. That worked a treat, but where to now?”

    Getting to power meant selling out most of her old principles. The one constant is empowering the unions who ultimately control their parliamentary lapdogs. Any pollie who seeks to reform that system, eg Rudd, gets rolled once they have served their purpose.

  41. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:22 am

    “If Miglo suggests that Dirk “is no intellectual heavyweight” he’s found the site that is tailor made to that expectation.”

    LOL

    I especially enjoyed the comment from Catching Up that Grub Gillard probably had planned her Cabinet reshuffle some weeks ago.

    Clearly she’s never heard the saying that it is better to say nothing than to offer up something that is just profoundly stupid

  42. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:36 am

    ‘Getting to power meant selling out most of her old principles.’

    Realpolitik…. too easy. Joolya became a free radical.

  43. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:39 am

    Actually I think Barry will probably give McLelland the gig after the election. It’s a pretty poor look for a Conservative state government to be causing the toppling of a federal government in that way.

    That sort of manipulative corruption is best left to the Left.

  44. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:42 am

    From Dow Jones
    ********************************************************************
    26/03/2013 07:43AM AEST

    WONG WONT RULE OUT SUPER RAID

    Finance Minister Penny Wong has declined to rule out axing tax concessions for superannuation in the May budget.

    “I’ve danced this dance over a few years,” she told ABC radio on Tuesday, referring to pre-budget speculation.

    Sacked cabinet minister Simon Crean has warned that raising taxes on super would trash Labor’s legacy in setting up compulsory superannuation.

    “You can’t be taxing people’s surpluses built up in a super fund to pay for our surplus,” he told The Financial Review.

  45. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:43 am

    Nah

    They have already appointed someone Sancty

  46. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 26, 2013 12:01 pm

    Its amusing to see many of the Rusted On Left saying that the opinion polls whilst bad at the moment will definitely turn for the better as we draw closer to the election.

    Well I’ve got news for you.

    They didn’t in Queensland or NSW state elections.

    In NSW most people had made up their mind months out from the actual election such was the appalling nature of the ALP government.

    So get set for the appalling numbers to continue for the ALP

  47. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 12:44 pm

    This far out we could speculate on the political landscape after the election… poll driven.

  48. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 1:30 pm

    Isn’t that the price of admission over there?

    Oi! You two! I’m NOT banned!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Old commo good, old fascist bad

    Just to level the bleedin’ obvious bias … – Old commo BAD, old fascist BAD …

    Capitalist, OK … Uber Kapitalist NOT, OK …

    Democracy for the People, OK … Democracy controlled by, The Robber Barons, Not OK … Democracy controlled by the Unions, NOT OK …

    Get a feeling that all the pendulums are in action these days … no middle ground?

    Its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ …

  49. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 26, 2013 1:48 pm

    The comedy continues

    Catching Up is still referring to the European Common market

    Hilarious

  50. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 26, 2013 2:48 pm

    ” Oi! You two! I’m NOT banned!

    I’m not sure how to put this to you TB…but perhaps that’s because….

  51. March 26, 2013 2:56 pm

    LOL…! 🙂

  52. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 3:19 pm

    Extra dry, ToM.

  53. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 26, 2013 3:19 pm

    Nah

    They have already appointed someone Sancty

    Bet you Reb’s left knacker he gets the gig after the election.

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 3:23 pm

    Another, Noddy (I’ll Never Lie) Newman “Team Member” bites the dust …

    REDCLIFFE MP Scott Driscoll has been suspended from the LNP, Premier Campbell Newman has announced.

    Mr Newman said he was disappointed Mr Driscoll had not been more fulsome about allegations raised by The Courier-Mail.

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/queensland/premier-campbell-newman-suspends-member-for-redcliffe-scott-driscoll-from-lnp/story-fndo4ckr-1226605653474

    LOL!

    Good job the LibNits have an overwhelming majority and an endless supply of pollies … or they’d have to call an election next month! Talk about, cronyism, nepotism and lack of “fulsomeness” …

    Coming Soon! To a Parliament near you … Abbott & The Acolytes …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’m not sure how to put this to you TB…but perhaps that’s because….

    Chuckle … at least I didn’t need to explain it to you … like some here …

    Is Dirk still prattling?

    I’ve actually been too busy for playing just lately … see below …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’m in the middle of taking on our insurance company and thier jewellery supplier – recommended by our insurer as a better deal than taking a cheque, “’cause they’re wholesalers and you’ll get better value” … (you may remember we were burgled about 22 months ago …) … well at least three of, The Minister’s chains have broken, ear-ings clasps are opening and she’s losing ear-rings and today she discovered a small heart shaped locket has lost seven small zircons … as part of the “package” she, also bought a ruby/diamond ring for about $4000 – the Valuation Certificate shows $6000 … we’ve been told we’d be lucky to get $1500 …

    It took the insurer five weeks to reply to my letter (via email) … “we’ve had 20,000 flood claims” … when I chased it up …

    … I’ve spent the morning researching the new Australian Consumer Laws, Competition & Consumer Act, 2010 … I’ve asked for a meeting with both parties – here at home!

    Should be interesting to see what they say … full refund we reckon … we can never trust the quality of the any of the jewellery …

    Not acceptable quality …

    (The jewellers offered, The Minister, a “discounted” price to replace the ear-rings … and things just got worse)

  55. March 26, 2013 3:39 pm

    “The Minister’s chains have broken, ear-ings clasps are opening ”

    Maybe if you stopped wearing your wife’s earrings when she’s not home this wouldnt’ve happened…

  56. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 26, 2013 3:46 pm

    There’s an article/Op Ed in The DailyTerror today by Mark Lennon the head of Unions New South Wales (used to be NSW Labor Council) informing readers that the New South Wales Government since election in March 2011 has sacked or made redundant 15,000 staff with a further 10,000 still to come.

    I got the feeling he was trying to present it as a bad thing

  57. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 26, 2013 4:58 pm

    Just had a look over at TPS

    Seems like the informed opinion today is that after her daring to put the PM under the blow torch last night that “Leigh Sales is a traitorious slut” and the collection of statistics via opinion polls is not a science at all.

    Good can we now abolish the ABC and ABS ?

    I love one of their reasons for dismissing of polling is because its too expensive to call mobiles so pollsters only call landlines therefore skewering polls away from the opinions of the young.

    If they actually took the time to read the way the polling is conducted age is also taken into account in the final numbers making up the poll.

    I’ve been called a few times myself (not only for political polling) and almost the first question asked is your age. If it’s not what they want they ask if there is anyone within a certain age range in the household and if not they thankyou and hang up.

    The Rusted on Left are a bunch of f***in idiots.

  58. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 5:03 pm

    Maybe if you stopped wearing your wife’s earrings when she’s not home this wouldnt’ve happened…

    Whooo you are awful … but I like you, honky tonks …

    (Just like ToM, fkn predictable replies … 😆 )

  59. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 5:06 pm

    therefore skewering polls

    Actually, Wally, the word is “skew”, not skewer … works though … 😉

    Just sayin’ …

    I’ve been called a few times myself …

    I’m not surprised at all, Wally, what were you called? 🙄

  60. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 26, 2013 5:11 pm

    An example of Leigh Sales acting as a traitorius slut…………

    LEIGH SALES: But Prime Minister, I don’t think that Australians can quite so neatly as you have done draw a line under everything they’ve seen for past few years and then just ignore it and do what you want them to do which is to concentrate on what you’re promising going forwards.

    JULIA GILLARD: Well, when you vote in an election and we’ll get there in September, you’re making a decision about the next three years and who’s got the best personal capacity and the best plans for that future. Who’s got the ability to lead the nation? Who has the right policies and plans to make sure in a difficult world where our future is not assured that our nation comes up with a stronger economy, more jobs, more opportunity and that those things are fairly shared? Australians will make their judgment in September and I will certainly be there saying we are the only political party with those positive plans for the future and I am the only leader with the capacity to guide our nation through in what can be a very rough and tumble world.

    So,

    Grub Gillard’s main electoral strategy seems to be relying on the public forgetting the past and just looking to the future.

    Fat chance you idiot Gillard

  61. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 5:19 pm

    The PM is either delusional or has something up her sleeve.

  62. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 5:28 pm

    Clearly delusional. She always has the misogynist card up her sleeve, but that is subject to the law of diminishing returns.

  63. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 5:39 pm

    ”The mining sector nowadays pays more to the state and federal coffers than ever before and that’s a good thing,” said Gary Gray.

    Which means no renegotiation on the mining tax.

  64. Hummmp permalink
    March 26, 2013 5:40 pm

    I agree with el gordo, Gillard is delusional, she states that she is the best person to lead the nation, FFS, if she were any sort of a leader labor wouldn’t be hovering aroun 30%

  65. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 5:48 pm

    Apparently she’s even fallen further than PK in 1992, after the ‘recession we had to have’.
    The reason Labor voters are deserting in droves is the tax on energy …. which has made their life a struggle.

  66. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 5:54 pm

    The reason Labor voters are deserting in droves is the tax on energy …. which has made their life a struggle.

    What bullshit …

    There’s far more reasons than that … 🙄

  67. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 5:59 pm

    “There’s far more reasons than that …”

    Yes. Virtually everything she says or does.

  68. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 6:08 pm

    The hip pocket nerve is paramount.

  69. March 26, 2013 6:15 pm

    “That sort of manipulative corruption is best left to the Left.”

    Fuck, some of you yank yourselves!

    No better than the adherents, with such blanket generalisations & ranting against the imaginary left. The corollary of which suggests that the conservative right is a bastion of sweetness & light…more yanking involved to see shit that way. 🙄

    It shouldn’t need to be pointed out that the vast majority of those you’re haranguing are rusted on ALP supportersnot fucking rusted on leftists !!! …& the right does its own fair share of attempting to rewrite history.

    Only in the minds of a monocular rightard, is the ‘rusted on left’ synonymous with ‘rusted on ALP apologists & arselickers’.

    Get the fuck off of the Bolt Train.

  70. March 26, 2013 6:18 pm

    “What bullshit …

    There’s far more reasons than that …”

    Amen, TB.

    The anti-left thinking on display is just as derivative as the Gillardphilia & frotteurism enacted elsewhere…except of course, the ban-hammer isn’t being summarily wielded here.

  71. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 6:37 pm

    There are essentially two broad categories of people – leftists and normal people. Leftism is just another sentimental middle class religion. The Greens have always been an upper-middle class movement and the ALP is a working class party that has been gentrified by the dregs of the middle class.

    This is not to say that all leftist ideas are bad. The problem is with people who gain personal satisfaction by identifying as leftist. The act of self-identification unfortunately constrains their ability to think independently. Everything is viewed through the prism of their quasi-religious beliefs.

    The left’s insistence on judging everyone else through the lens of their PC value system no doubt satisfies a deep-seated religious need they have to appear to be righteous and look down on the rest of us non-leftist sinners.

    The world would be a better place if leftists apostatised, and just approached matters issue by issue instead of hewing to the party line on every occasion.

  72. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 26, 2013 6:39 pm

    “Yes. Virtually everything she says or does.”

    Evokes laughter these days

    But no one is listening anyway.

    Few can even stand her voice these days. Not to mention the crap that “She’s tough”……………”She’s a tough negotiator”………………….”She’s feisty”

    What pathetic CRAP

    As I said ……….no one is listening anymore and it all started with the Carbon Tax,

    Trying to call it a Carbon Price just angered people who are not fucking prepared to reach for a “political dictionary” to get all possible interpretations or possible meanings everytime new shit pours out her fucking gob.

    Then there’s Wilkies betrayal, then Superannuation, then the Surplus, now the NBN, plus the Press Laws.

    And on and on and on the trail of betrayal……………………………….

  73. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 6:47 pm

    “no one is listening anymore”

    When Gillard comes on TV it is usually a rush to hit the mute button in most Australian households.

  74. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 6:50 pm

    Amen, TB.

    And then you get the ri9ght wing ramblings under your post …

    Do you recall the few times I’ve said that when people accuse others of something … its generally what they do themselves …

    The world would be a better place if leftists apostatised, and just approached matters issue by issue instead of hewing to the party line on every occasion.

    … does this sound very Catlik in timbre, conservative in wording and dictatorial in intent, toillette?

    So what Issues – I suppose you mean Liberal Party Policies would you like to discuss, sb?

    All eyes …

    BTW, sb, you really are a rusted on … sorry to tell you …

  75. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 6:52 pm

    ‘It shouldn’t need to be pointed out that the vast majority of those you’re haranguing are rusted on ALP supporters…not fucking rusted on leftists !!!’

    Not sure its that simple. The ‘love in’ with the Greens has changed the party forever, its been infiltrated with green thinking.

    The leftist workers could see this and were not particularly offended, until the PM came out as a watermelon and made them pay for folly.

    This is best demonstrated in NSW where the workers have punished the ALP and remain happy with O’Farrell. Its federal Labor’s future, an insignificant rump, destined to form a casual coalition with the party which rooned us.

  76. March 26, 2013 6:53 pm

    What a crock, splatter!

    I accept that you may mean some of it with a bit of licence, but it reads like a black & white world view to me…where the ‘left’ is the perpetual canker.

    For all the ills of the indefinable left that you attempt to characterise, the ‘right’ has the same arrogance & groupthink at work, if & when you slum through the comments on a conservative blogsite.

    I do tend to agree with this sentiment…”The world would be a better place if leftists apostatised, and just approached matters issue by issue instead of hewing to the party line on every occasion”…but absolutely dispute that such singlemindedness is the exclusive domain of the ‘left’.

    I also reiterate…ALP arselickers are NOT representative of the left…they are simply the useful idiots of the incumbent government. Much of what they cheer for, defend & endorse in unison does not resemble the left, imo.

  77. March 26, 2013 6:55 pm

    And we also have…

    Conroy’s Internet Filter, Roxon’s Internet Data Retention Policy and The Malaysia Solution…

  78. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 6:55 pm

    AIMN is hate media.

  79. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 7:04 pm

    “the ‘left’ is the perpetual canker”

    True enough and nicely put. They were bad enough in their Jacobin origins bringing Paris the reign of terror and when they gained power over a large part of the world in the 20th century they proved to be the greatest mass-murderers in history. Sadly the disease lives on, sometimes in slightly less virulent strains but always as the enemy of rational thought and discussion.

    “the indefinable left”

    I don’t have to define them, they happily adopt the label themselves. Whereas ‘right’ is usually a term of abuse invented by the left so that they can have an “other” to demonise.

  80. March 26, 2013 7:13 pm

    The Labor party is no longer a left-wing party so it’s beyond me how the Gillard Cheer Squads call themselves “proudly left-wing…”

  81. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 7:16 pm

    There is a point at which being left becomes secondary to keeping power. Which is where the ALP is now.

  82. March 26, 2013 7:20 pm

    “‘right’ is usually a term of abuse invented by the left so that they can have an “other” to demonise.”

    Way to construct a circular argument which nobody can win on account of the way that each side will accuse the other of exactly the same traits.

    I do think that the ‘self identification’ you mention is an inherent peril of nailing one’s colours to either mast. Do that and you paint yourself into an intellectual corner.

  83. March 26, 2013 7:23 pm

    I think Catching Up should have her own current affairs TV show..

    I’d watch it. It’d be hilarious…

    She could call it “Catching Up with Catching Up”..

  84. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 7:31 pm

    “Do that and you paint yourself into an intellectual corner.”

    My point exactly.

  85. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 7:36 pm

    They were bad enough in their Jacobin origins bringing Paris the reign of terror and when they gained power over a large part of the world in the 20th century they proved to be the greatest mass-murderers in history.

    What on earth did you study? I vaguely recall you are university “educated” by your posts …

    BTW, we do live in the 21st Century and have for over a decade …

    Whereas ‘right’ is usually a term of abuse invented by the left so that they can have an “other” to demonise.

    So if you despise the left your right, so you don’t have to be “right” because your right anyway and if your not right then your “left” and if your not “left” then they will call you right …

    So what about people like me (and … if I may, toillette and sreb), who began blogging to get rid of Howard, now pan the Gillard and Kevin Kustard governments but think that your thinking is actually extreme right .. ie not Liberal as such but Conservative (in the British sense) … and we know that Tony Abbott & The Acolytes will be a disaster too …

    That must makes us more even minded and central than anyone here?

  86. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 7:38 pm

    I do think that the ‘self identification’ you mention is an inherent peril of nailing one’s colours to either mast. Do that and you paint yourself into an intellectual corner.

    Firing tonight, Ser Tee, hear, hear …

    Do you sometimes feel like a voice in the fkn wilderness?

  87. March 26, 2013 7:41 pm

    If that is your point, then I agree.

    Forgive me for interpreting your comments as slating home the entirety of Earth’s malignancies to the ‘left’. I must have missed the double meanings of words that I’d always considered myself to be familiar with. 😉

  88. March 26, 2013 7:43 pm

    * was to, sb @7:41

    ** original comment was a retort to snacty @ 6:15

  89. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 7:43 pm

    “So what about people like me (and … if I may, toillette and sreb), who began blogging to get rid of Howard,”

    You should know my views on Howard by now. I don’t have a ‘side’. My comments were directed at those who do.

  90. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 7:48 pm

    I don’t have a ‘side’.

    Shakes head …

  91. March 26, 2013 7:49 pm

    Tony Abbott & The Acolytes will be even worse for the Nation if they indeed win by the magnitude that current polling suggests.
    A government of either stripe, unrestrained by counterbalance if the other lot get decimated, is not something anyone but a limpeting arselicker would welcome.

    I imagine that splatter probably agrees.

    The ALP will receive the kicking which they’ve set themselves up for. Their crotchsniffers can blame the media & Abbott as much as they like, but that will be missing the point.
    I only hope that the rout doesn’t cause the scales to tip too far in the other direction.

  92. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 7:51 pm

    “Forgive me for interpreting your comments as slating home the entirety of Earth’s malignancies to the ‘left’. “

    I was merely pointing out that people calling themselves leftist have contributed their fair share. I don’t know why people bother to take on the ‘left’ label, other than to obtain some form of religious consolation.

  93. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 7:54 pm

    ‘So what about people like me (and … if I may, toillette and sreb)….’

    And me. I was rusted on a few years ago, but now I’m a free thinker.

  94. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 26, 2013 7:56 pm

    “I don’t have a ‘side’.”

    I have a side. I am anti the ALP and the people who support them. I basically disagree with everything ALP supporters say. They seem to tell lies to support their arguments. They also like to demonise anybody who has opinions that differ from their own. They also like to character assassinate people.

    They are not people i could agree to disagree with.

  95. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:01 pm

    “I imagine that splatter probably agrees.”

    indeed. I’ve said as much here not so long ago.

    TB, I’ve spent the last few days over at Mr Lefty’s arguing against O’Farrell’s new evidence laws. During the course of that discussion I made the following rather obvious point:

    “you know that I consistently hammered Howard in strong terms, particularly in relation to children overboard (and I must say that Gillard has many, many defects but she has not sunk that low, yet.)”

    But you seem to judge me through the prism of your far more rusted on view of the world.

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:01 pm

    I don’t know why people bother to take on the ‘left’ label, other than to obtain some form of religious consolation.

    Perhaps because you have such ancient and narrow minded concepts and your constant reference to religious consolation, screams Catlik … meaning that you are not a free thinker at all … I’ll believe that when I see the first Catlik Priest, Bishop, Cardinal and/or especially a Madame Pope …

    No different to the Masons and their men’s club …

    Hypocrisy writ large … unfknbelievable … shakes head again … and again …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And me. I was rusted on a few years ago, but now I’m a free thinker.

    yeah, egg, I’ve noticed …

  97. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:05 pm

    ‘yeah, egg, I’ve noticed …’

    Good.

  98. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:05 pm

    TB, I’ve spent the last few days over at Mr Lefty’s

    Keep up the good work … I’m not arguing your posts on Mr Lefty’s (whoever that is) … its your posts here …

    But you seem to judge me through the prism of your far more rusted on view of the world

    Ha! Another Dirk, you presume too much again … but I won’t play my dirk is bigger than your dirk …

    “Rusted on view” … please explain … in 21st century terms and concepts … much easier to understand …

  99. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:05 pm

    TB, you didn’t address the really interesting question I raised in that bit you quoted, which is why people bother to identify as ‘left’. You just had a rant about Catholics.

  100. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:06 pm

    Good.

    😯

  101. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:07 pm

    ““Rusted on view” … please explain … in 21st century terms and concepts … much easier to understand …”

    You can’t let a criticism of the ALP pass without a “look over there comment” can you?

  102. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:18 pm

    TB, you didn’t address the really interesting question I raised in that bit you quoted, which is why people bother to identify as ‘left’.

    Because you keep bringing up religion … associated with right wing politics … these days …

    You quote “history” … Hitler believed in God … Stalin didn’t … both arseholes … one a Fascist extreme right … the other a Communist extreme left …

    … to be left is to believe that the state owes a certain allegiance to people who need help and assistance … that the state has certain responsibilities to people*, not Robber Baron profits … not everyone can be a brain surgeon … but not everyone can be a train driver … or a drag line operator or a motor mechanic … or a learning facilitator … or a marketing manager … or a TV camera operator … or gawd forbid an accountant … we all have a part to play in society … whether it be a command system or a capitalist system … well managed unions are a counter balance to poor management … good management is a counter balance to poorly managed unions … not one, or the other …

    … rich people – no matter how they come by thier wealth are not better than anyone in our society … they should be subject to the same laws as all people in society … poor people are not a waste on our resources …

    That’s just a start!

    *power, food, water, health/medical services, security, defence …

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:22 pm

    You can’t let a criticism of the ALP pass without a “look over there comment” can you?

    As I said earlier … I’m all about balance* … my comments are only “look over there” if you don’t like them … LOL!

    Do you really think that Tony Abbott & The Acolytes will bring peace to our lives … ’cause I don’t … they’ll be either as bad – or as I suspect – worse that the present lot!

    I come from Queensland – remember …

    The age pension went up … thanks ALP …

  104. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:42 pm

    “Another, Noddy (I’ll Never Lie) Newman “Team Member” bites the dust …”

    Well at least Newman did something.

    Eddie Obeid was in Bob Carrs’ Cabinet when Carr was Premier of NSW. Perhaps we should have a Fitzgerald enquiry here in NSW to find out what Bob Carr knew about what his corrupt Ministers were up to.

  105. TB Queensland permalink
    March 26, 2013 8:57 pm

    Well at least Newman did something

    Not without a lot of pushing from the Courier Mail … and and maybe the news from NSW got him sweating …

  106. Freefinker permalink
    March 26, 2013 9:02 pm

    I don’t self-identify, I’m a free thinker, but I will be first in line to angrily defend anyone who dates to criticise The Left, while being very careful to not define what I think leftism even is.

  107. Freefinker permalink
    March 26, 2013 9:10 pm

    That didn’t even make sense, the way I wrote it. What I’m trying to say Is why don’t certain defenders of the left here actually spell out what it is to be a leftist in the 21st century, and why anyone would want to call themselves a leftist given the left’s miserable history and atrocious pedigree.

  108. March 26, 2013 9:40 pm

    ” Oi! You two! I’m NOT banned! “
    Ditto TB. _ l just got back from coffee-1 myself.
    *********************************************************
    Why are the Tea_Guzzlers so consumed with their eviction from the coffee-shops anyway, don`t they realize they`re in the wrong market.?

  109. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 26, 2013 9:54 pm

    730 – ” Why are the Tea_Guzzlers so consumed with their eviction from the coffee-shops anyway, don`t they realize they`re in the wrong market.?

    730 is so f**king dumb, he constantly refers to reb as a teabag or a tea guzzler, then makes an abject apology. F**KWIT!

    An upmarket Catching Up.

  110. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:00 pm

    Stand by for the following from 730-

    “Oh, I didn’t mean you reb, I meant Tom & Gordo…”

  111. outlander permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:13 pm

    Laugh, I almost shat, OUTLANDER’S indepth analysis of last night
    …..What we’ve lacked is a sense of unity and now that is resolved…Yeh…I think that industry has got a more secure long-term future….Is that right?…We’ve got an amazing track record…I’ll say…Well, the last fortnight has been the last fortnight….Pollie speak for I’m fucked…. it’s done, it’s dusted….I don’t think that any of this is worth speaking about anymore…Well that’s not gonna happen…we had the week that was…I’m even more fucked than I thought…renew the team with quality and talent(spoilt for choice of chumps)…Spare me…. I am the only leader with the capacity to guide our nation through in what can be a very rough and tumble world……Tony, if your listening, keep your mouth shut and wait.

  112. Evil Walrus permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:15 pm

    “The Labor party is no longer a left-wing party so it’s beyond me how the Gillard Cheer Squads call themselves “proudly left-wing…””

    It’s a Trade Union/Paul Howes/Grub Gillard Cult.

    And it caters only for those three’s interests.

  113. Anon. permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:16 pm

    Gee Tom, you seem to be losing your cool. And that’s completely understandable, given your repeated (wrong)assertions over the years that ‘Gillard’s finished’ or ‘she’s gone’. Surely you must feel foolish that to date at least, you are batting zero. But then again, probably not. Bet you can relate to this.

    http://weknowmemes.com/2012/01/premature-ejaculators-anonymous/

  114. March 26, 2013 10:24 pm

    freefinkeroSY

    how surprisement

  115. March 26, 2013 10:27 pm

    Ask yourself…

    * did I self identify as a leftist?

    * was I just pissing on a few ridiculous generalisations of the right?

    * was it me using leftist as a catchall phrase so that I could attack it?

  116. March 26, 2013 10:31 pm

    ” I was rusted on a few years ago, but now I’m a free thinker.”
    ROFL grodo. _ you have never even been a `thinker` _ let alone a `free-thinker` _ and you`re rusted-on to, `Mr-Rabbit`, `deny-ing`, `teabag-theory` and `self-delusion`

  117. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:34 pm

    I think it’s marvelous that we have so many CW/AIMN sock puppets here!

    They’re always welcome, though they’ll notice the difference in the intellectual demands, and the spelling.

  118. Anon. permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:49 pm

    think it’s marvelous (sic) … the difference in the intellectual demands, and the spelling.

    Another own goal. Still batting zero, I see

  119. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:53 pm

    7.30 you are weird and you speak funny.

  120. el gordo permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:56 pm

    ‘Another own goal. Still batting zero, I see’

    I know that voice…. filthy sock puppet.

  121. Anon. permalink
    March 26, 2013 10:59 pm

    Not surprised Grodo, that you are still hearing things. Even on soundless right wing blogs.

  122. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:04 pm

    Hilarious! The sock puppets want to debate British or American spelling!

    They wouldn’t get away with that at CW/AIMN. Spelling is entirely optional. Just ask their resident expert on everything.

  123. public toilet permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:12 pm

    Calling this a rightwing blog is insulting to the numerous non-rightard contributors here…

  124. Anon. permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:16 pm

    Yes, the truth hurts. At least for some. For most here such a description is a badge of …

  125. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:18 pm

    Obviously Scaper is a great and equal match for the sock puppet.

    Best you pop back to the shallow end. It’s for the grown ups here.

  126. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:23 pm

    British or American spelling!

    ‘Own goal’ to the sock puppet.

  127. Anon. permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:28 pm

    Tom, if only you could get a prediction correct. LOL. A marvellous record of failure over the years.. No wonder you’re keen on keeping your real identity away from your clients. Really you’re a scream

  128. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:38 pm

    If only you could figure out how to use full stops correctly, and if only you could win a debate with Scaper, and if only you could differentiate between a desired outcome and a prediction.

    Do pop back once you’ve figured out how to deal with the intellectual heavyweights at CW/AIMN, like Scaper. He seems to have your measure.

  129. outlander permalink
    March 26, 2013 11:40 pm

    Anon, could you confirm if that’s “anonymous” like rebs gonna be hacked, or Anon like at another time.

  130. outlander permalink
    March 27, 2013 12:03 am

    I supose it’s Anon dot which is synonymous with anonymous.
    Anon: at another time has no dot.
    However, at another time, reb you might get hacked by the global force of Anon. he’s vicious.
    Come near me Anon. and I’ll bite you with my one tooth.

  131. March 27, 2013 12:07 am

    ” distortion of science has reached such prodigious proportions at “The Oz” you’d need a veritable army of winged monkeys locked in a science library, each one furiously researching and cataloging that paper’s ongoing misrepresentation of science.”
    http://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/cut-and-cherry-paste-the-australian-shamelessly-cherry-picking-the-words-of-scientists/
    .
    Limited-News caught out again, mangling information to peddle bullshit.

  132. March 27, 2013 12:15 am

    ” You lie to me non-stop. You try to convince me that climate change isn’t real, but Weapons of Mass Destruction were. Ten years later, they still haven’t found any WMDs but the glaciers are still melting. And if you lie to me about something so obvious, what else are you lying about? Well?”
    http://turnleft2013.wordpress.com/2013/03/26/goodbye-msm-its-not-me-its-you-im-just-not-that-into-you-we-need-to-break-up/
    .
    Funny post. The embedded media seem to be pissing off larger and larger chunks of blogland recently.

  133. March 27, 2013 1:08 am

    Well-earned Anti-Joolya comments, or Teabag Theory bullet-points, will not stop the following from being returned,
    1. Katter
    2. Oakeshott
    3. Windsor
    These 3 seats will not go to Mr-Rabbit, despite rumors.

  134. March 27, 2013 1:12 am

    Teabag bullet points won`t help Mr-Rabbit with,
    4. Wilkie
    5. Bandt either, add to List above.

  135. public toilet permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:29 am

    The ‘truth’, regarding whether or not this is a rightwing blog, varies depending upon the point of reference of the individual.

    What is not, is a pro-government blog. Those niches are already well filled with slaverers.

  136. public toilet permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:30 am

    * what it is not…

  137. public toilet permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:33 am

    Not very difficult to recognise Anon’s syntax & specific targeting.

  138. Freefinker permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:48 am

    ‘Anon.’ Still displays a somewhat unpleasant ‘Nature’.

  139. public toilet permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:53 am

    😯 😆

  140. Freefinker permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:53 am

    For a careful non-self-identifier you seem extremely sensitive/protective/defensive when it comes to criticism of “the left”.

  141. March 27, 2013 2:02 am

    most here don`t particularly like the duopoly freelinker, we often encourage spanking both Mr-Rabbit and Joolya, there is often little difference in them anyway, teabag or teabag-lite _ (tho we do have a couple of unhinged tea_guzzlers that are fun to spank too) 🙂

  142. Freefinker permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:05 am

    Well you do seem to have identified a lot of “teabags’ at this site 730reportland. Are they dangerous?

  143. Freefinker permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:10 am

    I only ask because you seem particularly obsessed by interested in them. ; ^ }

  144. March 27, 2013 2:34 am

    ” seem particularly obsessed by interested in them”
    Nah freelinker. l dislike/distrust both sides of the duopoly about the same(verging_near_hate). Like most web-citizens, l too have had to put up with truck-loads of crap from the teabag-cheersquad. Mr-Rabbit has now had a great free-ride since 2010, with teabag-media cheering for him since 2010. Mr-Rabbit has not built himself into an `alternative` leader, just remains a screecher and mud-thrower.

  145. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 8:04 am

    That’s interesting, 730 isn’t interested in ‘teabags’! He only uses the term about 3 times per sentence.
    -.-.-.-.-.-.-.
    Oakeshott remained deeply unpopular last time I was in his part of the world.
    -.-.-.-.-.-.-.
    I was talking to a hack in NSW last week. He can’t see a way for the ALP to come near a win, thinks the ALP is so tarnished in NSW.

    People outside NSW don’t get the same sense of ALP poison.

  146. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 27, 2013 8:40 am

    TB: “That’s just a start!”

    Incoherent stream-of-consciousness brain farting ….. beats having to make sense ….. motherhood … robber barons ….. rich people ….. Catliks ….. Libnits ….. thanks ALP …. if I don’t make sense …… can’t argue with me …. look over there ….. balance ….. and that’s just a start ….. can do this forever …. one handed …. other put to more satisfying use …. and still time to look in the mirror ….. during the vinegar strokes …. well f*ck me …. oh wait …. I am already.

  147. el gordo permalink
    March 27, 2013 8:41 am

    The Obeid scandal has rocked the NSW left to its vey foundations, but left wingers elsewhere seem unaware of this state of affairs.

    The average punter is not stoopid and will leave the party out in the cold for a decade at least.

  148. el gordo permalink
    March 27, 2013 8:45 am

    Careful splatter, the man can be brutal in close quarters.

  149. March 27, 2013 8:53 am

    “you seem extremely sensitive/protective/defensive when it comes to criticism of “the left”

    Ya think?

    Well, I don’t agree when I see a mutual tugfest lambasting everything to their distaste as somehow being a symptom of leftist evildoing or incompetence.
    I suppose you may prefer that I didn’t push back a little against that type of generalising.

    I realise you’re attempting to bait me.

    I am yet to encounter an infallible ideology, how about you?

    The problem with ideologies is the people who put them into practice…they’re usually so, errr, susceptible to acting like biased humans.

    I accept that no side has a monopoly on altruism. Each has its pros & cons. Therefore, I call bullshit on partisan screeching.
    FWIW, I don’t think the ‘right’ is wrong 100% of the time either.

  150. Freefinker permalink
    March 27, 2013 9:26 am

    No, not baiting, but genuinely interested in your definition of this left you are so quick to defend. Presumably it’s not Marx’s left, or Stalin’s, or Mao’s. Perhap’s it’s the left as set down by Chomsky, or maybe Clive Hamilton, or Bob Hawke, or Bob Brown. Or another kind. Enquiring minds want to know.

  151. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 27, 2013 9:29 am

    Toilet, it was just a throwaway line at the end of a post. (I think I started this??)

    I think it should go without saying that there are decent, intelligent people on both sides of the political divide (such that it is) and when making derogatory generalisations, such as about corruption those people are specifically not included.

  152. el gordo permalink
    March 27, 2013 9:38 am

    Clive Hamilton is brain dead, there is little doubt.

    Last century Che Guevara was my hero… clearly I was misguided.

  153. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 27, 2013 9:49 am

    That said, though, it’s pretty bad, this corruption thing.

    One bloke who I always liked, even if I didn’t agree with him, was Doug Cameron. Today I find he’s up before the ICAC and has been accused of giving protection to Ian McDonald along with Albanese, who I never liked, but never considered he might be corrupt.

    So we have the AWU, the HSU, the AMWU, the CFMEU, and the TWU all the subject of serious corruption allegations.

    To quote someone, 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a manual.

  154. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:00 am

    Che is one of the saints of the sentimental religion of leftism. Never mind that he was chief executioner at Castro’s prison for class enemies and responsible for the murder of 10,000 people. No wonder leftists like to disport themselves in clothing imprinted with his holy visage. Wearing Che is way cool. It gives you that same warm feeling you get when the last drop of jizz dribbles onto your hot panting belly.

  155. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:05 am

    “….One bloke who I always liked, even if I didn’t agree with him, was Doug Cameron. Today I find he’s up before the ICAC and has been accused of giving protection to Ian McDonald along with Albanese, ……….”

    And there we have Federal Labor linked to State Labor’s corruption. Coruption which has cost the people of this State over $100M so far uncovered.

    September will be a bloodbath for the ALP in NSW

    And this is incredibly damaging for Albasleaze who holds an inner City seat (not by much margin) which could go to the Greens.

    Could we get a Countdown Clock for the election ?

  156. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:06 am

    “It gives you that same warm feeling you get when the last drop of jizz dribbles onto your hot panting belly.”

    LOL

    What da fuck ?

  157. outlander permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:09 am

    Left, Right, Teabag, Scumbag,our so called leaders are so far in the centre sometimes it’s hard to tell the difference. Yes, they have branding, it’s all popularist, poll driven, focus group, I’d like to give them an internal poll up the bottom. Instead of the text message in the morning they get to set a monotonal daily news bite, it would be so refreshing if they said what they think, or better still represent their electets thoughts, not this Bill Shorten…….I think what she thinks.

  158. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:12 am

    “Careful splatter, the man can be brutal in close quarters.

    Underneath he is an old sweetie. Perhaps just a little too set in his ways. I am sure he doesn’t mind being set to rights every now and then.

  159. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:15 am

    “What da fuck ?”

    It is not surprising that leftists seek from their political religion the same sort of satisfaction they enjoy from their own hand.

  160. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:20 am

    One bloke who I always liked, even if I didn’t agree with him, was Doug Cameron.”

    He is a faction boss. Yesterday showed how the system worked:

    Labor’s NSW upper house leader Luke Foley said Mr Macdonald later secured a deal to remain in office until mid-2009, by which time he had become “an agent and operative of Eddie Obeid” – known in party circles as “Obeid’s left testicle”. ….

    At the lunch, Senator Cameron indicated “the metalworkers’ union would continue to support the preselection of Mr Macdonald back into the parliament”. Mr Bastian was “not a fan of Mr Macdonald” but “Doug Cameron called the shots and [he] was obliged to fall into line”, according to Mr Foley.

    Mr Albanese said Mr Macdonald had enjoyed a very long stint in the parliament, but since he enjoyed the support of the miners’ and metalworkers’ unions, the law of “realpolitik” would rule, according to Mr Foley.

    If you look at that iconic image of Bill Ludwig raising Gillard’s arm at the AWU conference you will appreciate that it is the same type of realpolitik that keeps Gillard in power.

  161. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:24 am

    Former CFMEU boss John Maitland was to do well out of all the corruption savvy investment, turning $160k into a potential $15,000,000 return.

    It’s the get rich at via ALP connections that will cost the ALP plenty of seats in NSW, and Federal politicians obviously aren’t immune from the disease. There are a few members of the Senate, beyond Doug Cameron who might be nervous.

    I’d imagine there will be plenty more to come out in the lead up to September. Which seats will replace the NSW losses?

  162. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:26 am

    “Former CFMEU boss John Maitland was to do well out of all the corruption savvy investment, turning $160k into a potential $15,000,000 return.”

    Oh noes! In unionland the union bosses are the robber barons.

  163. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:49 am

    *Sings*

    Solidarity……..Foreeeeeevvvvvvvveeeeeeerr……..

    The Union makes us strong………

  164. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:14 am

    *sings*

    The working class can kiss my arse,
    I’m Union secretary at last,
    I’ve a slush fund and mining lease,
    You can shove the Red Flag where you please!.

  165. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:18 am

    Will the ICAC hearing coincide with the election campaign? That would be very funny.

    But given the demoralised state of NSW, where will the extra seats come from? Victoria seems to have settled for the Liberals following their leadership change.

    I understand the LibNats aren’t popular in Qld, but given the deep disaffection towards the ALP will they pick up seats (enough to offset NSW)?

    Some tip a repetition of the current parliament, I can’t see how this will happen.

  166. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:26 am

    “Some tip a repetition of the current parliament, I can’t see how this will happen.”

    Just think about the opposition. Basically all they have to do is to look human. Sadly even that seems to be a struggle for them sometimes.

    Australian politics is more volatile these days and Gillard is a good campaigner. This week is probably as low as the ALP will go in the polls, and they do have some achievements to sell to the Australian public. The country is not that badly off, especially in comparison to other Western countries.

  167. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:29 am

    The worst thing is, they’re not even fkn embarrassed about it. There’s no collective groundswell saying “enough”. One elder did last week and found himself isolated.

    You can’t tell me the majority of union members or leaders are “good honest representatives” when the whole movement can’t unite to stop this festering shit. It’s so fkn widespread it’s barely news. Maybe that’s the objective? Get it to reach a point where it’s so common that good people don’t even fkn bother anymore.

    And the best the “left” can come up with is that Abbott will be worse. Crap. The only circumstances where the Coalition could be worse is if they’re allowed complete unfettered power. If that’s the case, thank heavens it’s Abbott and not Turnbull in charge!!

    But the ones to blame for such a circumstance are Labor and their comfort machine.

  168. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:38 am

    “Will the ICAC hearing coincide with the election campaign? That would be very funny.”

    No its due to finish very shortly and David Ipp the Commissioner is well known within Sydney legal fraternity as an extremely hard worker.

    His report is expected by August whereupon it will be passed onto the DPP to determine whether matters relating to

    a) former Roads Minister Eric Rosenblum getting a very good deal on a new car from Obeid associates was corrupt

    b) the granting (against his departments advice) by Resources Minister Ian McDonald ( a friend of ALP Upper House Member Eddie Obeid) of a mining lease smack bang over a property recently purchased via the Obeid family was corrupt

    c) the granting (against his departments advice) by Resources Minister Ian McDonald ( a friend of John Maitland ) of a mining lease smack bang over a property recently purchased by John Maitland and mates was corrupt

    We need Wixxy to shed some light on these events and interpret them.

  169. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:42 am

    Last time I looked Wixxy was writing articles saying it was bad for the Coalition to tax big business like the major banks and Coles/Woolies etc because they might get upset…..or something.

  170. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:44 am

    Wick’s considered response to ICAC corruption-

    LOOK AT KATHY JACKSON!!

  171. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 27, 2013 12:03 pm

    I questioned one of his conclusions once on Twitter and ever since I’ve noticed his wife is following me (I don’t have many followers). I wonder if she thinks I’m attractive or something.

  172. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 12:29 pm

    Careful James, he’ll figure out you’re ‘sharing an office’ with Pauline Hanson, ie you went to a restaurant, and she went to the one next door, but a week later.

    He’s good at figuring out those types of close relationships.

  173. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 27, 2013 12:57 pm

    Meanwhile over at TPS low life Jason disagrees with someone called Austin 3:16 and then compares them to a pedophile whilst Bacchus says he wont engage with Austin 3:16 because he’s too rude for Bacchus.

    This is the same Jason that last year said he didnt much care how many asylum seekers drowned on their way to Australia.

    A real charming piece of work who is seemingly a perfect fit for the ALP machine. He symbolises exactly what is wrong with the ALP.

    He should have been born into the Stalinist USSR. With attitudes like his he would have excelled as a violent and brutal commissar.

    Like I said what a low life filthy piece of so called humanity

  174. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:02 pm

    I probably shouldbe more careful……I have this habit of not really giving a shit about anonymity…….

  175. el gordo permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:04 pm

    ‘Get it to reach a point where it’s so common that good people don’t even fkn bother anymore.’

    That’s how it is in NSW, with the rank and file changing sides. Its unlikely they’ll be returning anytime soon … this surely is a defining moment in political history.

  176. Hummmph permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:16 pm

    It appears that on the surface, for the good of the nation, Gillard and Rudd have buried the hatchet, but I over heard a conversation they were having, and Gillard said to Rudd, if you we’re my husband, I’d put poison in your tea, and Rudd said, if you we’re my wife I’d drink it.

  177. It'sthemediawotdunnit permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:18 pm

    Some of these have already been used by our current government …

    “To anyone paying attention, reality is now painfully obvious. These bankrupt, insolvent governments have just about run out of fingers to plug the dikes. And history shows that, once this happens, governments fall back on a very limited playbook.”

    Expect These Eight Steps From The Government’s Playbook

  178. It'sthemediawotdunnit permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:21 pm

    The 1991 economic reforms swept away industrial licensing, reduced tariffs and opened the way to entry by private firms into industries previously reserved for the public sector, forcing all to compete.

    New businesses such as Jet Airways entered private aviation, forcing Air India to raise its level of performance. The effect was a sharp rise in India’s growth rate, followed by a reduction of poverty.

    How to lift a nation out of poverty

  179. el gordo permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:24 pm

    Strolling past the cafe I overheard Jane call Sales ‘nothing but a Liars & Murdoch shill.’

    In their minds this is becoming a huge conspiracy and for years they’ll be telling their grandchildren how ‘we wuz robbed.’

    On the flip side, they won’t object to Hockey taking his hatchet to the ABC newsroom.

  180. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:42 pm

    Great article, Media. Especially this: “ironically, the worst enemies of the poor can be those who profess to be their friends”

    Something people forget when they start believing that if only we give them enough power they can cure the ills of the world or even just ensure that no child lives in poverty by 1990.

  181. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 1:58 pm

    Re Jason – just to unbury the AIMN hatchet again.

    Jason launched a most obnoxious homophobic attack at AIMN. Later he told Miglo he hoped he hadn’t caused trouble.

    Miglo said- reb had to get used to that sort of thing.

    Incredible for a site like that to-
    1. Allow the homophobic comment without rebuke in the first place
    2. Have the blog owner specifically excuse (endorse?) it.

    Remarkable.

  182. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:12 pm

    Support for homosexuals???

  183. el gordo permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:22 pm

    If you’re not banned young James I expect you to go over there and say a few choice words….

  184. TB Queensland permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:29 pm

    Oh noes! In unionland the union bosses are the robber barons.

    Just a few, sb, just a few … they’re everywhere … as you right whingers are well aware …

    Neighbours of Mr Driscoll have said they have barely seen their state member, who was recently dropped from the LNP as investigations into misconduct continue.

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/queensland/signs-are-there-but-the-local-members-not/story-fndo4ckr-1226607179025

    Left, right, centre WGAF … The Robber Barons, include anyone who makes money at the expense of other people …

    I have no problem with capitalism – just the way that its being exploited and destroying people’s lives …

    I watched the lateline interview with, David Jones and Bob Geldof last night … Geldof believes Australia is in such a backwater that we have no idea how the rest of the world is being ripped apart … until last night I wasn’t much of a fan of his … but he made a lot of sense …

  185. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:32 pm

    There’s no point engaging with Miglo & co.

    Catching Up posts 30 comments in a row, if you take issue with one, she’ll post 40 more in reply. If you have an exchange with her, Miglo will ban you, then he’ll post your personal details.

    I wouldn’t bother with anything, other than continuing to point out what a dishonest pretence AIMN is.

  186. TB Queensland permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:33 pm

    Jason launched a most obnoxious homophobic attack at AIMN

    Is this a recent posting, ToM? … or, the original posting you’ve mentioned before? (I couldn’t find … unfortunately … if you’re gonna say something it should be within the 24hrs … something I adhered to as a line manager)

  187. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:35 pm

    Will do…..where is it?

  188. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:40 pm

    No TB, it was the original one, but I’ve since become aware of Jason’s expression of concern to Miglo for causing a problem, and Miglo advising Jason that reb should learn to put up with that type of commentary.

    Charming.

  189. ToM would never embellish the truth? permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:42 pm

    What Tony Abbott will do for you (Part 1)

    reb
    March 8, 2013

    “Reb, I’m removing your last sentence.”

    That’s ok Migs… Beides I can’t quite remember what I wrote anyway…:)

    MInd you, it hasn’t escaped my attention that when “Jason” called me “a bitch” you were quite happy to have that published on the blog for all to see.

    It’s quite apparent that as far as your “moderation” goes you’re quite comfortable to let abusive comments remain published as long as they’re targeting what’s perceived to be “right wing commentators” while nasty and vile comments from the pro-Labor team are just allowed to be published unchecked.

    The recent example of “Jason” calling me a “bitch” is a prime example.

    If I had called CU a “bitch” you’ be issuing requests that I must retract it, but when the “bitch” remark is targeting someone who’s politics you’re not aligned with, you’re quite happy to let that remark go published in the public arena.

    Just sayin’

    Miglo
    March 8, 2013

    Valid point.

    Yes, it was inappropriate for Jason to call you a bitch and he is aware of that. Jason knows he is to refrain from such language and I have accepted his commitment not to do so again.

    And as a blog owner you’d know that it’s hard to have your eyes on the blog 24/7. While I was enjoying a documentary on UFOs ( 🙂 ) I missed all the drama here last night and hence was distracted from editing responsibilities. 😦

  190. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:44 pm

    TB:“until last night I wasn’t much of a fan of his … but he made a lot of sense …”

    Perhaps you could enlighten us by explaining what the great Geldof meant by this sliver of wisdom:

    climate change, nuclear proliferation, terrorism, all those things, come from poverty, come from the scourge of poverty

  191. el gordo permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:50 pm

    ‘Will do…..where is it?’

    On second thoughts, better not go there.

  192. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:51 pm

    Any views on the specific exchange Miglo had with Jason, you know, the one where Jason said he regretted the trouble, and Miglo told him that reb will ahve to learn to put up wiht that type of commentary?

  193. ToM would never embellish the truth? permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:54 pm

    The original tête-à-tête was on the “Perception Becomes Reality” thread.

  194. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 27, 2013 2:55 pm

    Wow a big look over there from TB.

    Walrus comes up with this

    “b) the granting (against his departments advice) by Resources Minister Ian McDonald ( a friend of ALP Upper House Member Eddie Obeid) of a mining lease smack bang over a property recently purchased via the Obeid family was corrupt”

    And TB “just for balance” replies with this

    Neighbours of Mr Driscoll have said they have barely seen their state member, who was recently dropped from the LNP as investigations into misconduct continue

    At least with Driscoll people are raising issues while he is in parliament.

  195. March 27, 2013 2:57 pm

    I think you’re missing the point Bacchus, sorry I mean, “Tom would never blah blah blah”…

    Miglo is quite happy to stand back and watch the insults and snide remarks fly thick and fast as long as they’re directed at those who dissent from the Gillard Cheer Squad mantra..

    I was banned for making a so-called “snide remark” which in reality was simply me refusing to put up with Catching Up’s lies and bullshit about me.

    Catching Up is one of the Chief Insulters of the Blue Rinse Set but she’s never hauled up on her own snide remarks and insults which she regularly dishes out.

  196. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 3:04 pm

    So, the facts are-
    *Miglo bans people who made only polite comments
    *Allows homophobic comments from his mates
    *Only deals with them when they are the subject of specific complaint
    *Has an exchange with Jason that does not even mildly rebuke
    *Only excuses that type of comment…as long as it is from one of his mates.

    Some ‘progressive/left’ site.

  197. ToM would never embellish the truth? permalink
    March 27, 2013 3:06 pm

    And you were quite “innocent” in that exchange reb? You threw out enough bait in that thread to keep Tasmanian fishing going for a year. Jason is quite volatile, and eventually snapped under the barrage coming from your direction. I don’t think he’s been back since being told off by Miglo…

    Others can read it all for themselves – that’s the beauty of the Intertubes. They can also try to find evidence of what ToM is asserting – good luck with that 🙄

  198. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 3:07 pm

    …and Jason’s ‘bitch’ comment was one in the middle of a series.

  199. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 3:16 pm

    Yes, I am stating that Jason made a series of homophobic comments, ‘bitch’ was one.

    Following this Jason said that he was concerned about being the cause of the trouble.

    Miglo replied that reb had to get used to it.

    That’s a real ‘left/progressive’ for you.

    …and being ‘volatile’ is always an acceptable excuse for racism, sexism, homophobia and everything that goes with it…

  200. ToM would never embellish the truth? permalink
    March 27, 2013 3:19 pm

    Read both threads and prove me wrong then…

  201. March 27, 2013 3:23 pm

    Bacchus,

    The only reason I persisted with it, was because Catching Up said that the reason I didn’t like the PM was because she “was a woman”.

    When I rejected that assertion she let loose with a barrage of other insults – and then tried to make out that they weren’t directed at me, despite the name “reb” being the first word in her tirade…

    When I pointed that out to her, she denied ever even making the remarks..

    She’s a proven liar and and a hypocrite.

    “Others can read it all for themselves – that’s the beauty of the Intertubes. “

    Exactly. I completely agree.

  202. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 3:26 pm

    I didn’t say their exchange was on that site.

    So get over it. The fact is that Miglo specifically excused and gave comfort to his mate, for the problems they caused with their homophobic insults.

  203. ToM would never embellish the truth? permalink
    March 27, 2013 3:27 pm

    http://theaimn.com/2013/03/06/perception-becomes-reality/
    http://theaimn.com/2013/03/07/what-tony-abbott-will-do-for-you-part-1-2/

    You will recall that I agreed with you and had a go at you and CU on that thread too 😉

  204. ToM would never embellish the truth? permalink
    March 27, 2013 3:31 pm

    Hmmmm ToM can’t back his false? assertions, so I’ve got to “get over it” 🙄

  205. March 27, 2013 3:36 pm

    “You will recall that I agreed with you and had a go at you and CU on that thread too”

    Thank you..

    The funny thing is that in pointing out CU’s lies and bullshit I was the one that got banned…..

    Go figure….

    Despite all that, and despite what CU said, I certainly wouldn’t want to see the old dear banned…

    I find CU to be one of the most entertaining people on the blogosphere these days…

    Heck she’s even more entertaining than Annie Barrie from Kiama!

  206. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 3:37 pm

    Miglo follows this site, so he’ll be able to confirm his exchange with Jason.

    Apparently he’s not banned here.

  207. March 27, 2013 3:43 pm

    “Miglo follows this site”

    So does Catching Up – she’s one of our many satisfied subscribers… Which surprises me given that she hates us so much..

    Maybe she’s the new self-appointed blog “police woman“…

  208. outlander permalink
    March 27, 2013 4:04 pm

    ToM wnett, are you Jason’s apologist?
    Tell Jason to go to anger managment classes if he’s got problems.
    Then lets have a group hug and move on.

  209. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 4:19 pm

    Outlander, I think ‘progressive/left’ types, who run blog sites, and behave as anything but ‘progressive/left’ deserve some recognition.
    …….
    That photo is of a 40 year old, taken 40 years ago, so you may be right.

  210. outlander permalink
    March 27, 2013 4:35 pm

    Well ToM do you have a couple of bottles lined up for the weekend?
    Any recomendations for must have red imbibing?

  211. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 4:50 pm

    Easter is a great time on the Victorian coast. We have the best surfers here for Bells. Some even hang around some of my breaks during the comp.

    For red, I’ll be taking a selection, including couple of 2005 Blackjack shiraz. Drinking that should be compulsory for grumpy people.

  212. Hummmph permalink
    March 27, 2013 4:57 pm

    My Italian friends like to put coke in their wine, red wine, white wine, home made wine, Moët, they say its all better with coke, but you have to drink the brandy neat, now that one of them is a diabetic they use coke zero, just saying.

  213. TB Queensland permalink
    March 27, 2013 5:20 pm

    sb, what makes you think I need to defend or justify what, Geldof, I said I was never a fan … he just said some things I agree with. As for this

    climate change, nuclear proliferation, terrorism, all those things, come from poverty, come from the scourge of poverty

    I could hazard a guess with the full transcript/context not a cherry picked “quote” …

    But why would I bother … how would I know what, Bob meant …?

    I struggle through your posts most days …

    ===================================================
    At least with Driscoll people are raising issues while he is in parliament.

    Your home early, no homework? Read the link before tapping your iPad

    Neighbours of Mr Driscoll have said they have barely seen their state member, who was recently dropped from the LNP as investigations into misconduct continue.

    “We’ve had nothing to do with him,” Redcliffe resident Joy McBride said.

    “We don’t know too much.”

    She said barely any neighbours had spoken to Mr Driscoll and the street had not been included in the recent pamphlet drop he used to protest his innocence. Other neighbours said their MP was quiet and had not introduced himself to them when he moved in.

    Deception Bay local Annette Cross said the fiasco had coloured her perception of the LNP.

    “I’m not going to vote for any of them (political parties),” the 66-year-old said.

    “I’ll vote for Independents. I think they’ve got to go all out because they’re not a big party.”

    Retired local Alistair George also said he had lost respect for his local MP.

    You buggers have to be spoonfed … and its not a “look over there” … its a “they bastards all do it” … I don’t give a fk about Gillard’s government or Abbott’s wannabe’s … they all suck!

    You’re comprehension skills have never been all that good … …

  214. el gordo permalink
    March 27, 2013 5:24 pm

    ‘Easter is a great time on the Victorian coast’

    Huge swells are expected from the southern ocean.

  215. TB Queensland permalink
    March 27, 2013 5:29 pm

    … now that one of them is a diabetic they use coke zero, just saying.

    LOL! That’ll really help healthwise!

    1. Aspartame (phenylalanine)

    Used in the majority of diet products, including Diet Coke®, Aspartame can be up to 200 times sweeter than regular (real sugar). The high levels of phenylalanine (detrimental to people with PKU disorder) and methanol in Aspartame destroys neurons and can lead to memory loss, brain tumors and cancer. Twelve ounces of Diet Coke® can contain about 200 mg of Aspartame. Aspartame is a half-billion dollar industry and is the main ingredient in Equal® and NutraSweet®

    2. Acesulfame-K (acesulfame potassium) or Ace-K

    An artificial sweetener used in Coca-Cola Zero®. Acesulfame-K is 150-200 times sweeter than sugar and is a potential cancer-causing agent. Similar to saccharin, Acesulfame-K enhances a beverages’ sweet taste while extending its shelf life. Acesulfame-K failed to meet FDA standards. Acesulfame-K is marketed under the brand, Sunett and is in Sweet One sweeteners.

    More … for those who actually READ links …

    http://www.examiner.com/article/10-dangerous-sweeteners-coca-cola

  216. TB Queensland permalink
    March 27, 2013 5:30 pm

    Huge swells are expected from the southern ocean.

    How unusual … 🙄

  217. el gordo permalink
    March 27, 2013 5:43 pm

    ToM is going surfing and I heard its going to be particularly challenging…. three meter swells.

  218. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 27, 2013 5:50 pm

    TB: “how would I know what, Bob meant …?”

    Fair enough. You did say that he made a lot of sense, whereas I have some difficulty gleaning any sense at all from what he said and from that comment in particular. In fact he appeared quite unhinged – just another prattling celebrity.

  219. Hummmph permalink
    March 27, 2013 6:04 pm

    Holidayed (?) at Southern Ocean Lodge a couple of times, they had big waves, made a lot of noise at night, a whale swam passed whilst I was having lunch.

  220. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 27, 2013 6:35 pm

    “That’s a real ‘left/progressive’ for you.”

    Nah

    Jason’s comment on TPS (around the time the Malaysia Solution arose) about how he didn’t give a fuck how many boat people drown was what you’d expect from today’s typical “left/progressive”.

    An attitude of just pure evil no matter which way you look at it.

    The bloke is lower than scum with attitudes towards not so fortunate others to match.

    A diseased syphilitic mind would be proud of that sort of stuff.

  221. March 27, 2013 6:42 pm

    I remember reading that arsehat, jason, the chestbeating ALP limpet, making some pissy comment about how he’d be going to bed with his partner whom he could have children with…or some such rubbish.
    It read as thinly veiled homophobia to me at the time.

    He also has temper tantys & seems to get threatening (although, how people think they’re being scary across the ether is beyond me) like the scaper fucktard. That series of exchanges involved such comments.
    For all I know, the censor in chief has sanitised them away now; who knows, it’s his SOP.

    Fact remains, those who abuse from behind the wall of the prevailing sentiment there can do so at will. Absolutely different standards are applied to dissenting abuse.

    Pretty sure I read someone calling that dirk a fuckwit & a wanker, or somesuch, in the last 24hrs or so. That’s about all they said…apart from Tony Abbott being King of Wankers (genius 🙄 ).
    Predictably, that comment was met with a large round of indifference.

    They can do what they like, it’s their blog. But pretending that it’s fair, balanced or independent…& not just a great big pro-government slopfest…is total crap. Any truly independent outside observer who stumbled upon the place by accident & read a few comment threads would draw that conclusion fairly quickly.

    The title of AIMN is a gigantic facade.

  222. March 27, 2013 6:44 pm

    Victoria’s Surf Coast is magnificent.

    Lorne, Apollo Bay etc…the Otways are grand.

    Have spent quite a few holidays over there.

  223. March 27, 2013 6:48 pm

    Bacchus writes at AIMN…

    “It really is amazing those who consider themselves intelligent and “writers” even, who have no concept of what “independent” means. Put quite simply it’s “Not dependent on or affiliated with a larger or controlling entity:”

    It certainly does not mean “unbiased.”

    Biased writers from “the left” or “the right” (as well as any who consider themselves unbiased) have been invited to submit articles for publication. That “the right” chooses not to offer their thoughts for scrutiny in this forum says more about them than the forum…”

    What a load of bollocks…

    For one thing, Labor is now a right-wing party, so people who dissent from the prevailing Gillard Cheer Squad at AIMN (and the cafe) are not “right wing.”

    In fact, quite the contrary, people who take issue with Gillard are more likely to be truly “left-wing” than those who simply fall into line with whatever Gillard’s position on anything is on any given day…

    The fact that Labor has been haemorrhaging votes to the Greens ought to send a clear signal but the Gillard Cheer Squad are too fkn stoopid to see it.

    Christ, even Catching Up is of the view that Tony Abbott is “terrified” of the forthcoming election on September 14.

    Terrified…? Really…?? I think he can hardly wait – along with “the rest of Australia..”

  224. March 27, 2013 6:51 pm

    “making some pissy comment about how he’d be going to bed with his partner whom he could have children with…or some such rubbish.”

    Yep I remember that – directed at me at the time – because, you know, breeders are just so much better citizens than everyone else…

  225. March 27, 2013 6:52 pm

    “The title of AIMN is a gigantic facade.”

    What, you mean it’s not “Australia’s Media Alternative…?”

    Who knew…? 😯

  226. March 27, 2013 6:54 pm

    When the slap in the face comes in September, it will all be the media’s fault.

    They say it’s Australia’s media alternative…in a way it is. It’s the mirror image of a Bolt blog, with its partisan adherents & a horde waiting to stomp on the few contrary comments appearing.
    It’s the alternative favoured by limpets of the other stripe. Safety in numbers, I suppose.

  227. TB Queensland permalink
    March 27, 2013 7:57 pm

    In fact, quite the contrary, people who take issue with Gillard are more likely to be truly “left-wing” …

    Don’t let, sb, see that! You’ll have to explain yourself …

  228. Joey from Moe permalink
    March 27, 2013 8:43 pm

    Just back from the RSL. The missus won the meat tray raffle and I won $80 on a two cent poker machine. Does life get any better than that?

  229. March 27, 2013 8:55 pm

    “Does life get any better than that?”

    No it does not.

    What’s your secret…?

  230. Joey from Moe permalink
    March 27, 2013 9:05 pm

    The secret is to go down the club at happy hour before the high rollers arrive. Some of those plumbers and car salesmen play the dollar machines at maximum bet. I can only look in silent admiration.

  231. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 9:12 pm

    How hilarious can they get at AIMN, opining that there’s a spot for a conservative author!!

    They can’t even accommodate moderate alternative moderate views, politely expressed.

    They can accommodate-
    • Jason being homophobic
    • Endless chants of “troll”, “ban him and HIM!
    • Refusal to debate the point (conditions apply)
    • Any number of provocative insults (as long as they are directed at non groupthinkers)
    • Rhymes that would embarrass my 10 y=year old

    Has a blog ever fallen so far from its stated objectives, so quickly?

  232. TB Queensland permalink
    March 27, 2013 9:17 pm

    Joey sounds smart …

    What do you drink, jomo? 🙂

  233. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 27, 2013 9:19 pm

    Victoria’s Surf Coast is magnificent.

    It is, the towns are pleasant, lush bush and plenty of surf breaks. It’s idea for my forms of leisure.

    Though I suppose there could be a few more wineries around, the Bellarine Peninsular is just a little too far.

  234. Freefinker permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:00 pm

    Maybe it’s the left of Fidel Castro, or Hugo Chavez? Or Michael Moore or Bill Ayers. Which incarnation of leftism is worth the oxygen needed to defend it?

  235. Joey from Moe permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:23 pm

    Just had a couple cones to calm myself down after the big windfall. There’s a really interesting documentary on Austar at the moment, it’s called Jackass.

  236. Joey from Moe permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:29 pm

    Sorry TBQ, missed your question. We drink goon bags usually, beer sometimes, but cans of Jim Beam on dole day to celebrate the benevolence of government and the joys of couch-surfing.

  237. Evil Walrus of Palm Beach permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:43 pm

    ToM

    If you bump into a Professor in Accounting riding a board at Bells send him Walrus’ regards. He owns a massive property ( big acreage) overlooking the strait there.

    He’s a very good mate of mine tho not a red man. More a Coopers stalwart and Cats supporter.

  238. Evil Walrus of Palm Beach permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:46 pm

    Thanks for the tip Joey.

    I always like those high end docos too.

    I think that was shown at a few Film Noir joints in Sydney a few years back but I missed it.

  239. Freefinker permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:47 pm

    Wait, wait. I know. It’s John Pilger isn’t it? Or could it be Robert Fisk? No? How about Hollywood celebrities (separately or as a group)?

  240. el gordo permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:47 pm

    Couch surfing can become rough at times.

    —————–

    Freefinker I have given your question some thought and cannot find an answer.

  241. Evil Walrus of Palm Beach permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:56 pm

    On Richo tonight the head of Newspoll predicted the ALP would lose 40 seats in September. He made predictions in relation to the Qld and NSW polls and was out by a max 3 seats.

    Oh how sweet its going to be.

  242. Evil Walrus of Palm Beach permalink
    March 27, 2013 10:59 pm

    Jackass is about wildlife I think.

    So David Attenborough surely

  243. Joey from Moe permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:01 pm

    You’re right about couch-surfing el gordo. There’s a huge swell on ours at the moment as well as some pretty nasty wind.

  244. Freefinker permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:15 pm

    Does anyone else think the ABC is becoming an asylum for refugees from the BBC? FFS is there a rule against Ozzies (OI!) at “our” ABC now?

  245. Abacus permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:28 pm

    Ross Garnaut on Nightline just now offered a series of evidence-free and off-the-cuff pontifications on whatever scenario Tony Jones cared to imagine, all accepted by Jones without scepticism. Which is what one has come to expect from ABC operatives dealing with Rudd-Gillard appointed “experts”.

  246. Evil Walrus of Palm Beach permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:29 pm

    Yes yes Alberichi is a bloody Wog I-talian I agree.

    Send her home .

    Sales is a traitorous slut after attacking the PM with actual questions about lies.

    Send her back to coastal Victoria.

    Any others ?

  247. Evil Walrus of Palm Beach permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:33 pm

    I’m watching that hard questioning on iq just now. It’s almost rehearsed but I’d be totally wrong to assume it actually is………of course

    Has anyone asked Garnaut about Ok Tedi and how he reconciles that with his environmental policies?

  248. Evil Walrus of Palm Beach permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:39 pm

    Garnaut is a fucking idiot.

    Certainly has no idea about China beyond his hotel suite overlooking Hong Kong.

    It’s embarrassing .

    And Garnaut supports raping your super.

    Of course he would be on a defined benefit scheme

  249. Hummmph permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:39 pm

    Garnaut is a tosser, granted a sneaky tosser, fancy him quitting Lihir Gold in Victoria just about the time he encouraged a carbon tax in Aussie. He also recommended PNG should not have a carbon tax, just saying.

  250. Joey from Moe permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:40 pm

    Evil Walrus, the way we graduates of Moe Tech read it, Jackass is a study of the revolt and revenge of inanimate objects against white middle-class male oppression. Obviously.

  251. Abacus permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:49 pm

    Yes, Walrus, Garnaut classified current super regulations as “unsustainable” or “overgenerous” or something. Fucking ivory-towered defined-benefitted government-granted reality-removed inflation-protected academia-isolated CUNT!

  252. Hummmph permalink
    March 27, 2013 11:56 pm

    Garnut will want our savings next, then what? The shirts off our backs?

  253. March 28, 2013 12:30 am

    Teabags not paying attention when visiting Lyne.
    1. Oakeshott brings home to Lyne, the bacon.
    2. Acts in the Nations interest.
    3. Behaves professionally in parliament.
    4. Has held Lyne for a decade plus.
    5. Bullet-points won`t benefit Mr-Rabbit.
    6. Teabag talking-points won`t help Mr-Rabbit.

  254. March 28, 2013 2:51 am

    Hey Soft-cocks, stop lamenting your evictions from the coffee-shops. Here is another place that believes in 5-estate too.
    http://pbxmastragics.com/2013/03/27/the-great-manipulators/

  255. el gordo permalink
    March 28, 2013 7:15 am

    ”Coal miners in my electorate earning 100, 120, 130, 140 thousand dollars a year are not wealthy.”

    Joel Fitzgibbon

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/fitzgibbon-joins-chorus-of-labor-mps-concerned-about-super-tax-20130327-2guo4.html#ixzz2OlzcMTmr

  256. el gordo permalink
    March 28, 2013 7:19 am

    Garnaut’s Climate Change Review will go down in history as folly of the first order.

  257. el gordo permalink
    March 28, 2013 7:26 am

    ‘RANK-AND-FILE members are abandoning Queensland Labor in droves, further fuelling fears of an electoral wipeout of the Gillard government in the key battleground and damaging plans for a heavily manned grassroots campaign in the state.

    ‘More than 30 union officials have already been seconded to help run Labor’s campaign across Australia, with many being sent to Queensland as a third of the state ALP membership has abandoned the party in the past year.’

    Michael McKenna in the Oz

  258. March 28, 2013 7:48 am

    Michael McKenna in the Oz
    ” Insiders said members who had not paid up accounted for more than a third of the party base and were abandoning the ALP over the leadership tussle between Julia Gillard and former prime minister Kevin Rudd, and in the face of polling indicating a Labor defeat at the federal election on September 14. ”
    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/unions-urged-to-intervene-as-members-abandon-alp/story-e6frg12c-1226608001630
    .
    ” In a leaked internal ALP memo,” more burger from Limited-News, loaded with `secrret-sauces`

  259. March 28, 2013 8:01 am

    abc1 news says there is/was some kind of `cyber` attack going on, on the internet and is slowing it down. WordPress is loading pretty slowly for me.

  260. March 28, 2013 9:06 am

    ” While Summers told prosecutors she “honestly thought” the hoaxer was a police officer, her victim said she obeyed the instructions because she was terrified of losing her $A6-an-hour job.”
    .
    stoopid fcuking yanks, you`lot will love this
    http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/mcdonalds-staffer-forced-to-perform-sex-act-after-hoax-call/story-fn7kjxsd-1226605333940

  261. March 28, 2013 9:21 am

    I’ve seen that movie 730 – “Compliance”. It’s pretty harrowing stuff. Not funny at all really.

  262. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 28, 2013 9:57 am

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/a-new-script-needed-for-labor-and-the-nation-20130327-2gufy.html

    The polls tell us that the party is headed for a devastating defeat, the divisions are on show and the accumulated wisdom of John Faulkner, Crean, Kim Carr and Ferguson has been sidelined.
    Politics can be made more difficult than it really is. There are three essential tenets. First, take responsibility; second, reject the ideas that distract, divide and discount the nation; and third, argue to the last breath for the ideas and ideals that make the nation a better place. Honesty will, nearly always, win over duplicity.

    It looks as if the barrackers are about to turn on Kelty (again).

    Kelty has previously commented “you can’t blame the media” and now he’s calling for an end to “duplicity”, and lamenting the loss of ministerial experience and talent.

    Kelty is obviously in the pocket of Murdoch, even though he’s writing for Fairfax.

  263. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 28, 2013 9:58 am

    “” In a leaked internal ALP memo,” more burger from Limited-News, loaded with `secrret-sauces`”

    Just amazing isn’t it.

    We have the most popular PM of all time, the ALP’s reputation has never been higher, people applaud the way the union movement has guided the party in recent times and certainly don’t begrudge a few mining leases being handed out to servants of the working classes. And that princeling of the Robber Barons, Rupert Murdoch, just keeps making shit up. But all he is doing is masking the love this nation has for its strong feisty leader. Boy is News corp going to have egg on its face some September. I for one can’t wait.

  264. el gordo permalink
    March 28, 2013 10:00 am

    Haven’t you heard, its a huge conspiracy.

  265. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 28, 2013 10:08 am

    Yes. It is about time we had a government regulator to ensure the Murdoch press tells the truth.

  266. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 28, 2013 10:11 am

    Yes, now that Gillard has seen off Rudd, Crean, Ferguson, Faulkner, McClelland, Bowen…it’s a wonder that the membership isn’t just BOOMING! I’d have thought there would be a queue at the door of each branch office, stretching around the corner.

    What possible reason is there that people wouldn’t want to (re)join the ALP?

    730 as always, is on the ball. Particularly about teabags, he’s a genuine expert on Lipton, Dilmah and Robour, and he genuinely loves Americanisms.

  267. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 28, 2013 10:12 am

    “Kelty is obviously in the pocket of Murdoch, even though he’s writing for Fairfax.”

    The conspiracy is more widespread and far more pernicious than most people understand. Luckily some of us are on to it.

  268. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 28, 2013 10:16 am

    “I’d have thought there would be a queue at the door of each branch office, stretching around the corner.”

    There is. In every town and city in the country. Sadly the evil media is hiding this fact.

    You do realise, don’t you, that there is no ICAC inquiry going on in NSW. It is all being mocked up in the same studio where they faked the moon landings. Just ask 7.30.

  269. March 28, 2013 10:19 am

    “there is no ICAC inquiry going on in NSW. It is all being mocked up in the same studio where they faked the moon landings.”

    LOL…

  270. el gordo permalink
    March 28, 2013 10:20 am

    Luckily some of us are on to it.’

    🙂

  271. Hummmph permalink
    March 28, 2013 10:41 am

    Maybe 730 is just upset as he/she was Conroys first pick as the new media watchdog person, but now he/she will have to wait till after the election when labor are voted back in with a huge majority and he will be anointed as one of the nations saviours, just saying.

  272. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 28, 2013 11:06 am

    Meanwhile Tom R demonstrates that he’s just another bizarre dumb type who would prefer to speculate about identities then address the issues, he comments twice –

    ERIN (of Melbourne?) certainly seems to be quite ‘vociferous’ in her attacks on unions

    • I knew someone else who was a “vociferous” opponent to unions who displayed the same unique comprehension deficits. It is remarkable how anti-union proponents appear to ‘share’ these traits.,

    Tom R always uses vociferous to describe some of my opinions, he pops in here too, when he isn’t slumming it.

    So I’ll advise him (and Miglo, Roswell etc) that not all informed and articulate contributors are me. Certainly this one isn’t.

  273. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 28, 2013 11:31 am

    It is not right to call Tom R a ‘dumb type’. He is a master of his trade, the best and most persistent troll in the business. There is no fact, no amount of evidence or logic that will knock him off message. He should visit here more often so we can appreciate his grotesque genius at close range.

  274. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 28, 2013 11:39 am

    730 certainly displays all the characteristics that Conroy would appreciate, willingness to blame the media, appreciation for conspiracy theories, use of Americanisms, ignorance…

    Tom R might be capable of the role too!

  275. el gordo permalink
    March 28, 2013 11:52 am

    ‘He is a master of his trade, the best and most persistent troll in the business.’

    He’s a Deltoid trained master of obfuscation.

  276. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 28, 2013 12:09 pm

    Ah Deltoid! Home of the truly obtuse. An Australian version of Stoat.

    I admire Tom R. He is obviously smart enough to know that his willful ignorance disqualifies from being taken seriously, and is prepared to sacrifice his credibility for his cause. Where he goes wrong is in thinking he helps his cause at all. Ultimately the ALP cause is not helped if its most vocal advocates have lost all touch with reality.

    Even greater damage is done when advocates match Tom R in persistence and are plug stupid to boot. AIMN is full of them.

  277. March 28, 2013 12:15 pm

    “Ultimately the ALP cause is not helped if its most vocal advocates have lost all touch with reality.”

    Exactly……!!!!

  278. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 28, 2013 12:20 pm

    Some more light on Doogie Cameron’s support for Ian McDonald:

    the link between Mr Macdonald and Mr Cameron went beyond the political sphere. Mr Cameron’s lawyer daughter Fiona worked in Mr Macdonald’s office between 2003 and 2010, mainly as a policy adviser.

    Ain’t Unionland great?

    (Yeah, yeah TB, I know – look over there…Newman….Newman…anything that distracts from focusing on Unionland rottenness.)

  279. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 28, 2013 12:20 pm

    and is prepared to sacrifice his credibility for his cause

    And that is why labor keeps getting a large percentage of the vote no matter how bad they are. People are voting for a cause/mission. It is just another belief system/religion.

    I think something similar applies to Coalition voters but it is not as strong.

    I vote for the Coalition because Labor always get us into dangerous debt.

    People vote Labor because they think they are helping poor people.

  280. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 28, 2013 12:22 pm

    look over there…Newman….Newman

    Driscoll as well.

  281. el gordo permalink
    March 28, 2013 12:23 pm

    In my estimation Tom R is only saved by his occasional wit.

  282. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 28, 2013 12:42 pm

    “In my estimation Tom R is only saved by his occasional wit.”

    Yes Yes ……………..he often had me rolling on the floor laughing my arse off

    Anyway as pointed out in the evil MSM by an evil journo the ALP and its supporters are increasingly trying to reduce everything to an exercise in semantics since they can never win too many arguments with ordinary voters.

    It all started with the Carbon Tax versus Carbon Price debate.

    Voters have decided that if the have to carry a dictionary around to interpret a politician then they are just going to say

    ……………”Well fuck you then”

  283. Freefinker permalink
    March 28, 2013 12:46 pm

    And now for today’s political history quiz, Who Wrote That Manifesto? Answer later.

    For the political problem: We demand:
    a) Universal suffrage polled on a regional basis, with proportional representation and voting and electoral office eligibility for women.
    b) A minimum age for the voting electorate of 18 years; that for the office holders at 25 years.
    c) The abolition of the Senate.
    d) The convocation of a National Assembly for a three-years duration, for which its primary responsibility will be to form a constitution of the State.
    e) The formation of a National Council of experts for labor, for industy, for transportation, for the public health, for communications, etc. Selections to be made from the collective professionals or of tradesmen with legislative powers, and elected directly to a General Commission with ministerial powers.

    For the social problems: We demand:
    a) The quick enactment of a law of the State that sanctions an eight-hour workday for all workers.
    b) A minimum wage.
    c) The participation of workers’ representatives in the functions of industry commissions.
    d) To show the same confidence in the labor unions (that prove to be technically and morally worthy) as is given to industry executives or public servants.
    e) The rapid and complete systemization of the railways and of all the transport industries.
    f) A necessary modification of the insurance laws to invalidate the minimum retirement age; we propose to lower it from 65 to 55 years of age.

    For the military problem: We demand:
    a) The institution of a national militia with a short period of service for training and exclusively defensive responsibilities.
    b) The nationalization of all the arms and explosives factories.
    c) A national policy intended to peacefully further the Italian national culture in the world.

    For the financial problem: We demand:
    a) A strong progressive tax on capital that will truly expropriate a portion of all wealth.
    b) The seizure of all the possessions of the religious congregations and the abolition of all the bishoprics, which constitute an enormous liability on the Nation and on the privileges of the poor.
    c) The revision of all military contracts and the seizure of 85 percent of the profits therein.

  284. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 28, 2013 12:58 pm

    Sounds like typical leftist cant. Probably one of the leftist factions from the early 20th Century. The ‘progressives’, their intellectual heirs, today use more moderate language although their intent is the same.

  285. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 28, 2013 1:01 pm

    “The rapid and complete systemization of the railways and of all the transport industries.”

    Mmmmmmmmmm………..!

    Looks a bit fascist to me

    Mussolini was credited with getting buses and trains running on time.

    So I’ll bet on Benito

  286. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 28, 2013 1:05 pm

    Mussolini was credited with getting buses and trains running on time.”

    Hitler invented the Volkswagen and the Autobahns

  287. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 28, 2013 1:10 pm

    It is definitely leftist so it could have been Mussolini.

  288. Freefinker permalink
    March 28, 2013 1:16 pm

    Correct.

    It was indeed Mussolini.

  289. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 28, 2013 1:30 pm

    “Hitler invented the Volkswagen and the Autobahns”

    And we got some bunch of fuckwits who invented the taxpayer blackholes Holden and Ford Australia and the potholed Pacific Highway

  290. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 28, 2013 5:40 pm

    C’mon Freethinker………………..what’s the answer ?

  291. Freefinker permalink
    March 28, 2013 5:43 pm

    That’s odd. I sent the answer through earlier. It must have been spaminated.

  292. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    March 28, 2013 5:43 pm

    LOL

    Dont worry Freethinker

    I just saw the following bit and I think it might give it away…………

    “c) A national policy intended to peacefully further the Italian national culture in the world.”

  293. TB Queensland permalink
    March 28, 2013 5:52 pm

    (Yeah, yeah TB, I know – look over there…Newman….Newman…anything that distracts from focusing on Unionland rottenness.)

    I’m so sorry to offend you all, sb, just trying to balance the shit up … I keep trying to warn you that the pricks are all as bad as one another …

    Oh to be right all the time …

  294. TB Queensland permalink
    March 28, 2013 5:56 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AThe_Manifesto_of_the_Fascist_Struggle

    Waste of time FF, sb, has no idea of left, right, up, down, in, out … if he don’t like it its “left” … Christ knows which uni he purportedly attended … but he certainly didn’t study political history … if he did … he certainly didn’t graduate …

  295. March 28, 2013 6:32 pm

    FreefinkerofSY.

    I know you think you are somehow ‘winning’.

    Really, you are just becoming a caricature of Beck et al.

  296. March 28, 2013 6:37 pm

    “if he don’t like it its “left” …”

    Same applies to freefinker, TB.

    Although, freefinker is more likely to have plumbed American Conservative/Libertarian sources to find his litany of cookie-cutter anti-leftist memes.

    The fingerprints are stark.

  297. TB Queensland permalink
    March 28, 2013 7:19 pm

    Mussolini was credited with getting buses and trains running on time.

    Actually another urban myth …

    http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/historicalmyths/a/Did-Mussolini-Get-The-Trains-Running-On-Time.htm

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hitler invented the Volkswagen and the Autobahns

    He did indeed, NoS, well done … to your teacher …

    And both are running strong – I was impressed in 2010! When I travelled on them … and the “people’s car’ is a strong as ever … stronger in fact …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The fingerprints are stark.

    Hope not = I’m a fan of the Winterfell mob!

    Ta for the heads up – hadn’t twigged …

    The atmosphere around here is a bit smelly changed just lately … still, we know the Webmeaster’s policy … though it seems to attract a very right wing (who claim to be ex-left or centre) group of people with their hands in their pockets posters …

  298. March 28, 2013 7:21 pm

    Season 3 starts Monday, TB.

  299. Freefingerprinter permalink
    March 28, 2013 7:24 pm

    Oh look, there it is.

  300. Freefingerprinter permalink
    March 28, 2013 7:26 pm

    Not there, actually. There.

  301. el gordo permalink
    March 28, 2013 7:38 pm

    Nils is the only true right winger here …and maybe James. There’s a lot of left wing deserters looking for a place to hide.

  302. TB Queensland permalink
    March 28, 2013 7:41 pm

    Season 3 starts Monday, TB.

    For you, Ser Tee! I lent my copy of season one to my Teutonic, mate, see him tomorrow!

    Our plan is to watch season 1 to refresh our sensibilities and then into season 2 … 🙂

    I paid $60 for a guaranteed price, pre order, that ended up being $50, (I got a surprise soft back copy of the book in the pack – WOW – I use an ebook! And waiting for book 6) but I didn’t get my $10 bucks back it was a store credit – illega! As I’ve just discovered – studying the new Consumer & Competition Act, 2010 … get this insurance business out of the way and then I might “bother’ about $10 …

    FF .. is just another wanker … your right … where do they cum from …?

    I can’t help thinking we are overwhelmed by sock puppets tough …

  303. March 28, 2013 8:26 pm

    “where do they cum from ”

    I strongly suspect that that one comes from the southern side of that dirtyarsed river which runs through Melbourne.

  304. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 28, 2013 9:28 pm

    “Nils is the only true right winger here

    Well that may be your opinion but i am not sure myself.

    I will admit to being anti-ALP and anti-ALP supporters. They tell falsehoods most of the time. Like Howard introduced you only have to work one hour/week to be employed. Load of crap.

    I suspect AGW is also a load of crap since the ALP supporters believe in AGW. And most things ALP supporters believe is a load of crap.

    ALP polices do not work. They dismantled Howards pacific solution in a burst of moral superiority and look at the mess they created.

    By the way where are all the people who campaigned against Howard locking boat people up?? I think we have 6,000 people in detention. The moral superiority people seem to be very quiet.

  305. TB Queensland permalink
    March 28, 2013 9:35 pm

    Well that may be your opinion but i am not sure myself.

    I’ve known that for a long, long time … with luck you may wake up to the real world … just keep up with your studies and be good to mum and dad …

    … late bedtime tonight I see?

    I strongly suspect that that one comes from the southern side of that dirtyarsed river which runs through Melbourne.

    Not the knees and toes!

  306. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 28, 2013 10:12 pm

    “just keep up with your studies and be good to mum and dad

    If you get sexual thrills making comments like that i am happy.

  307. March 28, 2013 10:24 pm

    I’ve seen that movie 730 – “Compliance”.
    l`m sure it is harrowing reb, particularly the poor young woman victimized by it, but this `hoax` has been done a few dozen times in yankland. There is a very big need for their management to return to re-education camp. Big system/management failure.

  308. March 28, 2013 10:47 pm

    ” Maybe 730 is just upset as he was(/not) Conroys first pick”
    oh hummmph, l`ve never even had my hand up.
    The embedded media have reached the stage where `adult-supervision` is required, they aren`t doing supervision on themselves at all. The Finkelstein recommendations should have been adopted in full, and a `News_Media_Council` deployed too. Conroy`s stuff is a watered-down bunch of `not-much`. l agree with Mayne on Licensing, Ethics, `Fit-and-Proper-Ownership` and `Take-On-Power`.
    http://730reportland.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/mayne-on-industry-culture/
    and
    http://730reportland.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/mayne-on-press-licensing/

  309. March 28, 2013 11:04 pm

    oh by the way hummmph, unlike our teabags here and rusted-on`s elsewhere, l won`t be changing my `Mayne-Like` media view because a different/any politician or party is in power or enacts it.

  310. Evil Walrus of Palm Beach permalink
    March 28, 2013 11:12 pm

    I agree Neil

    Sorry eg you can kiss my vote goodbye.

    I voted ALP in 2007 for the last time.

    They are now just a Trade Union party.

  311. el gordo permalink
    March 28, 2013 11:18 pm

    ‘I voted ALP in 2007 for the last time.’

    Thought you might be another ALP deserter…. this place is full of them.

  312. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 28, 2013 11:31 pm

    ‘oh by the way hummmph, unlike our teabags here…’

    730 is always ensuring that he maintains his position- blahblahblahmrrabbitmrabbitblahblah I’ll ultimately support Gillard blahblahblahmrrabbitmrrabbitblah

  313. March 29, 2013 1:18 am

    l know how you feel yomm. lt`s a tuff to decide between Joolya and Mr-Rabbit, deciding which should go `Last` and which should go `2nd-Last` on the ballot, sep-14.

  314. March 29, 2013 8:31 am

    You really are a kantankerous lot aren’t you.

    Why are people so unkind?

  315. Hummmph permalink
    March 29, 2013 11:15 am

    Human nature Reb. You know what I hate? I hate it when you take the dog to the beach, and other people’s dogs crap in the sand and they won’t pick it up. I give them one of my hummmphy looks, just so they know I noticed. Then my dog smells their dogs crap and she does a crap, so then I pick up my dogs crap because its the right thing to do, and I’m happy that the non crap pick up people notice, THEN whilst I’m bending over picking up the crap my dog kicks sand in my face! I really hate that.

  316. el gordo permalink
    March 29, 2013 11:30 am

    LOL chick

  317. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 29, 2013 2:52 pm

    Has anyone asked Gillard whether these super ministries are permanent? Are they the best model?

    …and most importantly, can Craig Emerson be persuaded to do a singing press conference again?

  318. el gordo permalink
    March 29, 2013 2:59 pm

    I thought Emerson was about to fly out to China… not a song and dance tour.

    Meanwhile the world’s greatest Treasurer is making hay.

    ”Despite the ridiculous scare campaigns we’ve seen on the economy this week from the opposition, being an elite member of The 9As Club shows the resilience of Australia’s economy,” Mr Swan said.

    ”No Liberal government has ever achieved this coveted trifecta from all three global ratings agencies.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/australias-credit-rating-still-aaaok-20130329-2gyct.html#ixzz2OthYBmbJ

  319. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 29, 2013 4:47 pm

    No Liberal government has ever achieved this coveted trifecta from all three global ratings agencies

    Over in leftoid lala land this is one reason given as to why Swan is such a great Treasurer.

    We lost our credit rating under Keating and Costello got it back. However the third rating agency took some time to give us a Triple A rating. Since this occurred when Swan was Treasurer leftoids give Swan the credit. Other than increase our debt what has Swan done??

  320. el gordo permalink
    March 29, 2013 5:15 pm

    Noice to see yer not banned at the cafe.

    You tell em Nils.

  321. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 29, 2013 5:38 pm

    It was a mistake to visit. But TomR is an idiot. He keeps giving praise to Swan because of our relatively low Federal govt debt. Drives me mad.

    We went from zero debt in 2007 to whatever it is now. $250B or something like that. And Swan gets the credit for our Triple A credit rating. Not Costello who reduced debt from 18% of GDP to zero.

  322. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 29, 2013 11:36 pm

    Swan is popular with that lot because he’s proof that even stupid bulls*t artists can succeed.

    This means that Tom R and his mates have some future.

  323. Evil Walrus of Palm Beach permalink
    March 30, 2013 12:30 am

    Swan got the award from Europeans.

    I rest my case.

  324. Evil Walrus of Palm Beach permalink
    March 30, 2013 12:34 am

    Bradbury and others are using the line of net debt now.

    Countries get judged on gross debt

    Just like households .

  325. Evil Walrus of Palm Beach permalink
    March 30, 2013 12:38 am

    Meaning their risk ratingtherefore interest rate is judged that way.

    It’s tough to get assets offset against your debt be cause usually no one knows what “grade” they are.

  326. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 30, 2013 8:13 am

    Bradbury and others are using the line of net debt now.

    Also comparing our Federal govt debt with say Britain and France may not a fair comparison. We are a Federation but they are not. Britain does not have State govts. You should really be comparing our Federal and State govt debt with Britains. I believe our Fedear/State/Local govt debt is around 30% of GDP. It could quickly double.

    And Labor was in power at the State level when Costello was paying off Federal govt debt. Queensland lost its credit rating under Beattie/Bligh and this was during the biggest mining boom in Australian history. So much for those who say that it was just dumb luck that Costello paid off debt. The mining boom took place in Queensland. Didn’t help Queensland.

    It was Costello that got our credit rating back we lost under Keating and this is the reason why.

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