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Growing Number of Australians Despise Gillard’s Policy of Hatred Towards Asylum Seekers

May 5, 2013

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In the wake of the Gillard Government’s plans to send more and more asylum seeker children to be locked up behind razor wire, Welfare Groups are reporting a dramatic upsurge in the number of Australians wanting to help asylum seekers and speaking out against the government’s inhumane treatment of these desperate and vulnerable people.

The reports come as the Gillard Government faces renewed pressure to review its current policy of “dumping” asylum seeker families into the community with no support for food, accommodation or clothing.

The Sunday Age last week reported that many of the nation’s 10,327 asylum seekers currently released into the community on bridging visas due to overcrowding in detention centres were struggling on the fortnightly allowance they received from the government, the equivalent of 89 per cent of the lowest dole payment – $27 a day.

Under the Gillard Government’s policies, asylum seekers released into the community are forbidden from finding work, despite many desperate to find some form of employment to support themselves rather than depend on handouts from taxpayers.  As such many asylum seeker families find it difficult to make ends meet on $27 a day for rent, bills, food and clothing and depend on the generosity from community groups and volunteers.

The charity that helps those on bridging visas to survive in Australia, the Tamil Refugee Council, has been inundated with offers of help from the community during the fast few months.

Spokesman Trevor Grant has received more than 300 emails and hundreds of phone calls this week alone from across Australia offering donations of furniture, blankets, whitegoods, clothing, baby items and cash.

”I’ve never seen anything like it,” he said. ”It shows that a lot of people care, and when they’re given the opportunity to help, they’ll do whatever they can.”

Nasser Mashni is among those who contacted the charity to donate goods. The son of a Palestinian refugee who was afforded protection by Australia in the 1950s, Mr Mashni said: ”Australians as a collective, have a moral and social responsibility to help each other.

”We measure our society not by how each of us are going, but by our weakest, and if we see somebody who has fallen, it’s our duty to put a hand out.”

Midwife Nicola Dutton said learning that a pregnant woman was sleeping on the floor ”really struck a chord for me to do something.”

She and her clients are gathering a variety of items to donate.

”There are some people who think asylum seekers should just go back where they came from, and that’s what the government appears to be responding to, but there are so many more who think otherwise,” she said.

”They haven’t done anything illegal and they’re entitled to basic human rights and healthcare and the government needs to know there are compassionate people who want to help.”

Pamela Curr, from the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre said about 600 people turned up at a volunteer information night last week, suggesting the government’s asylum seeker policies were at odds with what the Australian people wanted.

During a visit to the suburbs of Western Sydney recently, Prime Minister Gillard “re-assured” the audience at a community forum that asylum seekers would be forbidden to find work to support themselves.

“There is a very good reason for that,” she said.

 

 

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  1. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 5, 2013 11:10 am

    Live photograph from the current protest against the inhumane treatment of asylum seekers!

    Yes, the crowd that so vociferously condemned the previous government have mobilised in the anticipated numbers.

  2. May 5, 2013 1:26 pm

    Let’s make it clear from the outset, I’m certainly no admirer of Gillard but would the Coalition treat them any differently? Remember that Scott Morrison wanted the neighbours notified if they moved next door – or even into the neighbourhood.
    They look funny, you can’t understand a word they’re saying, and they’re all on government benefits! Oh, hang on… wrong side of the house. That’s the Kiwi’s next door!
    All jokes aside, it’s a thorny problem and neither party seems to have the courage or the foresight to find a solution.
    Nonetheless, it’s heartening to see the community rally to their support and that most Australians still have the notion of ‘a fair go’ despite nearly two decades of the ‘free marketeers’ trying to persuade us that its ‘every man for himself.’

  3. May 5, 2013 1:39 pm

    I appreciate the sentiment Edward.

    The Coalition as exemplified by Scott Morrison are just as bad. I’ve come to expect nothing more from the likes of him and Eric Abetz.

    However we do expect more from the Labor Party.

    Once upon a time, the Labor Party was a party that stood up for the rights of the downtrodden and marginalised, including asylum seekers, but not any more.

    Today Labor is as every bit a right wing party as the Coalition is, and the fact that there are some poor misguided individuals who still maintain that Labor is somehow a left-wing party despite their abhorrent treatment of asylum seekers simply confirms just how stupid some people really are.

  4. public toilet permalink
    May 5, 2013 2:03 pm

    I think they’re too heavily partisan invested in the ALP to recant their unswerving allegiance now, reb.

    They’ll be going down with the ship in September, blaming everything but the captain & crew as they are dragged beneath.

  5. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2013 2:22 pm

    Can I play the iceberg? Can I? Can I?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    Well said, ee … especially … neither party seems to have the courage or the foresight to find a solution.

  6. egg permalink
    May 5, 2013 3:03 pm

    Clive Palmer has a solution.

    ‘Mr Palmer said a better and cheaper idea would be to let them fly here and then deal with them at the airport.

    “You can have the facilities there to meet them, rather than chase them all over the Indian Ocean, and as soon as they get off the plane, you can have them assessed, and if there’s a legitimate refugee claim that can be dealt with then, and appropriately, and the families can be kept together,” he said.

    “If they’re a queue-jumper, or someone that doesn’t have a legal entitlement to come here, they should go back in the very next plane.

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/clive-palmer-unveils-alternative-asylum-seeker-policy-for-united-australia-party/story-fncynjr2-1226631125285#ixzz2SOJuMvkN

  7. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2013 3:04 pm

    “The Coalition as exemplified by Scott Morrison are just as bad. I’ve come to expect nothing more from the likes of him and Eric Abetz.

    You may be right but at least they are consistent. It was Labor in Opposition who said it was evil to keep children in detention.

    This is an old article

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national-old/julia-gillard-locking-up-more-children-in-detention-than-john-howard/story-e6freooo-1225996704418

    JULIA Gillard is locking up more than 1000 children in immigration facilities, beating the Howard Government’s own “cruel” record.

    And rising numbers of boatpeople are locking out thousands of asylum seekers waiting in overseas refugee camps.”

    The last sentence is the worry. Looks like we are selling our refugee allocation to the highest bidder.

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2013 3:54 pm

    You may be right but at least they are consistent.

    In what? Stupid statements … rear rank kneel, front rank load, rear rank fire …*

    *:roll:

  9. TB Queensland permalink
    May 5, 2013 3:55 pm

    * 🙄

  10. May 5, 2013 9:28 pm

    Let’s face it, the real problem is that there’s no choice for the electorate, it’s ‘would you like grey or greyer? You can have any colour you like as long as its grey! The really sad thing is that there is no third choice. The Greens who are the most organized of the minor parties faff about and really say nothing for fear of being labelled ‘tree huggers, latte sippers, chardonnay socialists etc… and the beat goes on. As a political scientist, let me assure you that unless one of these bastards, and I’m talking about both
    the parties now, gets off their arses stands up and says, Friedmanomics is utter bullshit and we need to also address and formulate humane policies to deal with asylum seekers (onshore processing would be a good start), then the likelihood is that the next party to emerge will come from the far right.
    If you think I’m being melodramatic, there are already stirrings of this in Britain and unlike the BNP, the new party is parley-vouing very well. They’re slick, they’re articulate, and they’re very well organised! And if I’m wrong about this, then I’ll go down on Gina Rinehart!
    The majority of the electorate are fed up to the eyebrows with both parties but there’s no other choices.
    ps, Uncle Ed’s tip for the Coalition and its supporters especially those who blog and who seen to be in a frenzy of triumphalism – the results are going to be much closer than they think or that the MSM predicts. (no offer on G.R. about this one, we’re still four months out and anything can still happen).

  11. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 5, 2013 9:56 pm

    ee – Friedmanomics is utter bullshit

    Really, and is the point relevant to asylum seekers?

  12. egg permalink
    May 5, 2013 9:57 pm

    Onshore processing would be a worthwhile aim, edward.

    ‘The majority of the electorate are fed up to the eyebrows with both parties’

    Not true, swinging voters think Labor and the Greens are on the nose, so they will give the Coalition a mandate to rule.

    The election won’t be close, Labor might become a rump and never rule again in their own right. The Greens should survive with their present numbers, but they will no longer be a force in government.

  13. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2013 10:09 pm

    “Onshore processing would be a worthwhile aim, edward.”

    Have you seen the latest numbers?? I think there were 3,300 come by boat last month. That means about 40,000/year. If you have onshore processing you can double that since it will be more attractive to come here.

    Just how many asylum seekers do people think we should take?? Furthermore i no longer believe they are asylum seekers. If the Sri Lankans are really fleeing for their life they can go to safe haven in India.

    They are only coming here because they want a better life for their family. We have immigration programs for those type of people. Still maybe we should take them all and aim for a population of $50M people in Australia.

  14. egg permalink
    May 5, 2013 10:21 pm

    We are aiming for 40 million, Nils.

    I won’t go into unnecessary detail, all asylum seekers, refugees and illegal immigrants should be placed in a large concentration camp in the middle of the Simpson Desert, where they will have to prove they deserve to become Australians.

    This should be a deterrent for many non refugees, who may eventually plead to be sent home by plane.

  15. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 5, 2013 11:02 pm

    Trouble is egg is we taking less refugees from camps

    And rising numbers of boatpeople are locking out thousands of asylum seekers waiting in overseas refugee camps.”

    Because of Labor we are now selling our humanitarian places to the highest bidder. Furthermore a criminal organisation (people smugglers) gets to say who comes to Australia

  16. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    May 6, 2013 4:52 am

    “Because of Labor we are now selling our humanitarian places to the highest bidder. Furthermore a criminal organisation (people smugglers) gets to say who comes to Australia”

    Pretty much…That’s why I have a problem with the “bleeding” hearts who seem blind to the realities of this problem…Just keep beating the “poor economic refugee” drum…Bunch of lemmings…

  17. May 6, 2013 6:00 am

    ” ps, Uncle Ed’s tip for the Coalition and its supporters ”
    Well Uncle Ed, you seem to be repeating another person`s predictions there (l have no idea who, wink, wink) Some of us are old enough to remember another `certain-victory` that came undone with a birthday cake. Hypocrisy and Denial have been running rampant thru the political reporting sphere since the 2010 election and neither big-party has been an object of desire for the public. l wouldn`t be surprised if another `watermelon` Govt results from the 2013 vote as the `hate` for Joolya doesn`t necessarily translate to `Love` for Mr-Rabbit.

  18. May 6, 2013 6:48 am

    730reportland, I hadn’t been that the same conclusion had been blogged about the same topic, so if I repeated the conclusions it was unintentional, but yes I do remember the ‘the election we couldn’t lose’ and I also remember Fraser’s comments on polls. As a said, its still four months out.
    Tom of Melbourne, Nothing is the short answer. I was simply making the link between the injustices in Australian society and the attitude toward asylum seekers.
    Egg, you’re most likely right, but then again, there’s many a slip between the cup and the lip.
    Daily Trash, You’ve certainly stirred the possum on this topic. I do like a good debate.
    Cheers, everyone.

  19. egg permalink
    May 6, 2013 7:03 am

    Edward seems nice, for a watermelon.

    I’m now totally swayed by Sparta and Nils arguments on the subject of asylum seekers, but a little clarity might be worthwhile.

    Should we lease Christmas Island to the Chinese and bring home the navy?

  20. egg permalink
    May 6, 2013 7:22 am

    Nils I was looking at the Refugee Council site and they said its more a lottery than a queue. So unless you can provide evidence that we are taking less refugees from camps because of queue jumpers, then its a furphy.

  21. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 6, 2013 9:30 am

    Egg

    Well i do not have any official figures. What i do not understand is that at the moment we have a quota system of 14,000 refugees/year. We are now getting more than that number by boat. What happens when we get more than 14K by boat?? Does we take them all or send them back??

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/boatpeople-keep-other-asylum-seekers-at-bay/story-e6frg6z6-1225961715172

    SALVATION Army senior soldier Simon Hartley struggles with the consequences of asylum policy every day in Altona, in Melbourne’s southwest, in the heart of Prime Minister Julie Gillard’s electorate.

    He does not deal with asylum-seekers who arrive on boats. He helps the families of refugees suffering overseas who have been crowded out, denied a place in Australia because it has been taken by someone who originally came illegally.

    “The families we are assisting have put their applications through the correct channels, have not sought out people-smugglers and now are being told that they do not have a real chance of obtaining a visa,” Hartley says. “This is grossly unfair and will drive more to people-smugglers.”

  22. egg permalink
    May 6, 2013 7:04 pm

    Thanks for that Nils … this is also a worrying trend.

    ‘About 3000 children have arrived so far this financial year, compared with 1909 in all of 2011-12 and up from just 78 in 2008-09.’

  23. egg permalink
    May 6, 2013 7:14 pm

    From what I can see the government claims there is an orderly process, but I haven’t found any figures either. This from a government website may put things in perspective.

    ‘Until recently, the vast majority of asylum seekers applying for protection in Australia arrived originally by air with a valid visa and then applied for asylum at a later date while living in the community. Historically, boat arrivals only made up a small proportion of asylum applicants—estimates vary, but it is likely that between 96 and 99 per cent of asylum applicants arrived by air.

    ‘More recently the proportions of Irregular Maritime Arrival (IMA) and non-IMA (that is air arrival) asylum seekers have shifted due to the increase in boat arrivals. However, boat arrivals still only comprise about half of Australia’s onshore asylum seekers.’

  24. May 6, 2013 7:43 pm

    “this is also a worrying trend.”

    Really, worrying to whom exactly…

    Scott Morrison..??

  25. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 6, 2013 8:22 pm

    Another Government Is Necessary: The People Can Rule Better Than the Elites

    Let’s do it here!

  26. May 6, 2013 8:52 pm

    ” Let’s do it here! “
    sorry armchair, it will never fly, the article ignores the `wealth/control` reality of the yank system

  27. egg permalink
    May 6, 2013 10:16 pm

    ‘Really, worrying to whom exactly…’

    Its fine for a young man to risk everything for a better life, but dragging along the whole family on a leaky boat seems a bit selfish.

    Thinking of the children’s safety should be paramount and I repeat… ‘boat arrivals still only comprise about half of Australia’s onshore asylum seekers.’

    Clive Palmer wants all asylum seekers to come by plane (like the good old days) so that nobody has to die.

  28. egg permalink
    May 6, 2013 10:24 pm

    ‘Let’s do it here!’

    Nah, watermelon stuff.

  29. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    May 6, 2013 11:39 pm

    From what I have been gathering your asylum process is much like our immigration system, there simply isn’t one….We have people lodging applications from all corners of the globe, waiting years to come in legally meanwhile we have millions more whom simply walked across the border and gave birth or never left the country who are now enjoying the benefits of jumping the queue…Our government like your’s simply doesn’t seem to understand how much damage this does to the average citizen’s psyche…It simply says laws are meaningless and to be enforced on a case by case basis…Banana Republics indeed…

  30. egg permalink
    May 7, 2013 7:19 am

    ‘Our government like your’s simply doesn’t seem to understand how much damage this does to the average citizen’s psyche…’

    As Neil will explain, its this Labor government which has taken its eye off the ball. During the Howard years we still had an orderly migration program.

    Its because of this and a tax on a harmless trace gas, that Labor will get a thumping at the polls and we’ll return to rationality.

    I’ve read stuff by bleeding hearts who state that 97% of asylum seekers coming to Australia are genuine refugees, but its really the other way round and the electorate know it.

    Britain has been sleepwalking into a national disaster on this issue and I have no answer to the problem in the US with wave upon wave of desperate economic queue jumpers.

  31. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    May 7, 2013 10:49 am

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/four-asylum-seekers-on-the-run-in-darwin/story-fn3dxiwe-1226636605658

    Umm…Perhaps you guys could enlighten me; isn’t the Vietnam War been over for a bit? Why are you guys still granting asylum to Vietnamese?

  32. egg permalink
    May 7, 2013 11:31 am

    They are genuine refugees, Sparta.

    http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2013/s3745844.htm

  33. el gordo permalink
    May 7, 2013 9:14 pm

    A recent census in the UK revealed that they have 500,000 more people than they thought, they came in earlier this century and slipped under the radar. Sparta complains about Mexicans entering the US illegally ….

    ‘A BBC poll last week found that more than 8 per cent of Romanians and nearly 14 per cent of Bulgarians said they would consider migrating to Britain.

    ‘The MigrationWatch think-tank believes around 50,000 Bulgarian and Romanians will arrive every year for the next five years.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320499/The-500-000-Eastern-European-migrants-officials-didnt-know-So-entered-UK-authorities-lost-track.html#ixzz2SbTQSyUZ
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  34. Mittster Broadband's Biggest Fan permalink
    May 7, 2013 10:20 pm

    Greetings from Tampa:

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  35. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    May 8, 2013 5:13 am

    “They are genuine refugees, Sparta”

    Heheheh…Gordo, tell me something honestly…What non Western country on the face of the planet could you not claim “asylum” from given the standards you have to meet? It is ridiculous…”land grabs” now? We have that here to, it is called “Public Domain”… That is grounds to seek asylum? The Vietnamese government is no more tyrannical then China; should you be able to claim refugee status from China as well? It is a racket and a system that is being exploited by savvy economic migrants and brain dead, bleeding heart left-wingers…

  36. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    May 8, 2013 5:15 am

    Gordo,

    Another thing, take a look at a map and tell me if there are any other countries closer that these “boat people” could not find “safe harbor” at…The very fact they are “country shopping” should tell you everything….Fear of persecution or life by ass!

  37. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    May 8, 2013 5:19 am

    http://www.creators.com/opinion/miguel-perez/faked-fear-of-persecution-is-asylum-fraud.html

    It reminds me of the Boston Bombers…Their folks come over claiming the same thing; get their kids set up collecting the dole, going to school etc…Then she gets busted for shoplifting and heads back to the “dangerous” land with the hubby…One of the Bombers goes home for a visit, fearing for his life of course…It is a sham!!!! Yes, there are places where there is real fear but I would surmise that 50% or more of claims are bogus!

  38. egg permalink
    May 8, 2013 7:41 am

    ‘…should you be able to claim refugee status from China as well?’

    In the old days they referred to the Chinese as the ‘yellow horde’ and if we didn’t take our birthright seriously, then they would over run us.

    Off hand, they are coming in droves as tourists and economic migrants, but no refugees. They are also ‘country shopping’ but its a more orderly process and they are required to have capital.

  39. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    May 8, 2013 7:51 am

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/19/nyregion/law-firms-accused-of-aiding-chinese-immigrants-false-asylum-claims.html?_r=0

    Speaking of the Chinese…Yes, we had many such issues with Chinese immigration in the past and to be honest we need to put the breaks on such mass movements of people again…It was actually a “Chinese” immigrant whom was responsible for the landmark Supreme Court case that open the floodgates to the concept of “birthright” citizenship..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark

    Then of course Ted Kennedy’s disastrous 1965 Act that sealed our fate…Sigh…Anyway…

  40. egg permalink
    May 8, 2013 8:15 am

    ‘….inventing stories of political and religious persecution ….’

    Yep, there’s lot of it about.

    So do you propose we scrap the UN Convention on asylum seekers?

  41. egg permalink
    May 8, 2013 8:36 am

    We are a generous nation and believe in a fair go, sadly this is being exploited by economic refugees (sic).

    When Nauru was reactivated by the Gillard government most of the Tamil asylum seekers decided to return home. So much for political persecution and fear of imminent death if they were sent back, Bob Carr said they have nothing to fear and I believe him.

  42. egg permalink
    May 9, 2013 7:35 am

    ‘THE Coalition has accused Labor of creating a $5 billion black hole in its asylum-seeker budget the next three years by forecasting a substantial slowdown of boats despite record-breaking arrival numbers.

    ‘Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison has demanded the Gillard government “come clean” on the true cost of the blowout in the immigration portfolio, predicting Labor has underestimated the cost of dealing with asylum-seekers by $5bn.’

    Lauren Wilson in the Oz

  43. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 9, 2013 10:17 am

    Demonstrating the usual level of ignorance, hypocrisy and dishonesty the recent post on asylum seekers at AIMN shows who Miglo’s crew thinks is to blame.

    In a post on asylum seekers, Gillard is not mentioned (0), Abbott is named 9 times, Jesus – 5, church – 4, Christian – 4, Pell – 2.

    Apparently the ‘problem’ with asylum seekers as nothing to do with the rank hypocrisy and political dishonesty of Gillard! Nothing to do with her earlier professed progressive left idealism.

    The problem is all due to Abbott and the Catholic Church.

    Yet again AIMN proves that it fails to even attempt to meet the lofty standards Miglo set for the site.

    It’s a joke.

  44. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 9, 2013 1:09 pm

    Well i do remember being told by ALP supporters that asylum seekers are not aware of Australian immigration laws. That may be so but the people smugglers certainly do.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/boats-target-darwin-to-exploit-loophole/story-fn9hm1gu-1226637904226

    PEOPLE-SMUGGLERS are exploiting the political impasse on border security by directing an increasing number of boats towards the Australian mainland, giving their clients’ refugee claims a better chance of success

  45. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 9, 2013 2:18 pm

    Asylum seekers – further to the bizarre focus on Abbott from Miglo’s mates.

    The Liberals can be criticised for their inhumane policy

    The ALP can be criticised for their inhumane policy, and-
    *Their rank hypocrisy
    *The total disregard they’ve had for the position they advocated to win government
    *Mindless pursuit of the redneck vote
    *Gillard’s dishonesty and racism

    But when it comes to asylum seekers Miglo’s mates just talk about ‘AbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbottAbbott’

  46. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 9, 2013 2:44 pm

    “The Liberals can be criticised for their inhumane policy

    Maybe so. But I know longer believe they are fleeing persecution. They are coming here for a better life for their family. If this is so we should call it what it is. Country shopping.

    If i was in Sri lanka and truly fleeing for my life I would head for India where there is a Sri Lankan community.

    However I can understand the motive.

  47. grodo permalink
    May 9, 2013 3:03 pm

    And of course the fairly recent arrival of Vietnamese, supporting Sparta’s proposition that they are shopping.

    The point is, what will Abbott do about it?

  48. TB Queensland permalink
    May 9, 2013 4:31 pm

    In a post on asylum seekers, Gillard is not mentioned (0), Abbott is named 9 times, Jesus – 5, church – 4, Christian – 4, Pell – 2.

    LOL! That’s obsessive sumfin’, ToM … sitting there counting names … FMD business must be slow! Chuckle …

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    May 9, 2013 4:33 pm

    The point is, what will Abbott do about it?

    The real question is will Abbott & The Acolytes actually DO anything about ANYTHING? Chuckle …

  50. May 9, 2013 4:53 pm

    ToM

    Have you noticed just how infrequent the postings at both the Cafe and the AIMN have become of late?
    its gone down from at least once a day posting to maybe one or two new posts a week I suspect that they are all utterly depressed about the fortunes of the Labor government.

  51. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 9, 2013 5:39 pm

    Iain, so many self select out of here because they’re too embarrassed now.

    What could they possibly say – ‘we love Gillard because she-
    *keeps her word
    *is great at economics
    *is progressive on social issues
    *is a proven humanitarian
    *people trust her
    *…but, but, but… it’s not her fault
    *AbbottAbbottAbbott
    *HowardCostelloHowardCostello

    There’s nothing credible that they can say.
    =======
    TB, I don’t count them, I just used the find word function. It counts the words.

    When I read the thread, all I could see was lots of references to Abbott.

    But no reference to Gillard!

  52. egg permalink
    May 9, 2013 9:04 pm

    ‘The real question is will Abbott & The Acolytes actually DO anything about ANYTHING?’

    He will do something on the asylum seeker problem and we hope its humane. Turning the boats back, out of sight out of mind, maybe politically acceptable but is it the correct solution?

  53. egg permalink
    May 9, 2013 9:13 pm

    Fedup says the HSU has been reformed, which proves that the laws are adequate and Abbott should back off.

    Delusional in extremis.

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