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Rostrum II: “Son of Rostrum”

May 26, 2013
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  1. May 26, 2013 4:25 pm

    “I just thought “gringo” meant nice, handsome man not from around here, in South America.”

    Me too…

  2. IPA address permalink
    May 26, 2013 4:27 pm

    You chinese don’t get off the hook, either. From now on I just won’t stang for being called Gweilo, gwailo, or kwai lo. I mean it!

  3. IPA address permalink
    May 26, 2013 4:35 pm

    I haven’t decided how offended to get if certain Northern Monkeys Queenslanders keep calling us Victorians “Mexicans, but it’ll probably be a fair bit.

  4. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 26, 2013 4:36 pm

    I just got a message when I tried to post this comment
    Sorry, comments are closed for this item.
    What does that mean?
    Oh I see, it’s reb mucking around 🙂

    I apologise for doubting your sincerity IPA!

    Perhaps it is an NT thing!
    I lived for 20 yrs in a NT country town with a divided aboriginal/white colonialist population, I heard it said often [amongst many other slurs].

    That’s interesting though, do others here know it to be a racial slur? I tend to believe the 13 yo girl may not have, but where has she heard it in context to an aboriginal man?

    I consulted the Urban dictionary and sure enough:

    1 rock ape
    A derogatory white Australian slang term for an Aborigine. Most commonly used in the Northern Territory, where modern Aboriginal culture has been defined by generational poverty, primative living conditions, poor levels of education, alcholism and violence, to the point where Redneck Australia can feel that they are more cultured and civilised than those stupid rock apes.
    Those rock apes are less than human. You see ’em in the streets comming up to you, saying “hey mista, gotta dolla? Got smoke?”, and they’re always drinking, sniffing petrol and fighting. Why can’t they be more like us white people?

    5 Rock Ape
    Flat nosed simian creature found in the Australian outback…

    …Frigging rock apes busted open my petrol tank so’s they can get high on the fumes.

  5. TB Queensland permalink
    May 26, 2013 5:22 pm

    So I can still call you lot Mexicans?

    BTW, KL, rock-ape was a term used to describe anyone without brains in my early life experience in workshops both civvie and militarynot aimed at people of any colour …

    … and quite frankly I too would not have known that ape is a racial slur (it has been “made” into one) … but I would say that Goodes has done more to DAMAGE his point than to help it …

    The whole issue was badly handled … he could have simply taken issue at a press conference … intead he points out a 13 yo kid on national TV … she is then marched out of the stadium by TWO security guards, her parents told to stay in their seats (and they did?!!?), this child was then booed and insulted by the crowd as she was escorted out and then “interviewed” by police for two hours … talk a bout overkill ’cause a precious football star was gutted by being called “ape” … next time I’m called a Pom I’ll simply burst into tears …

    Maybe someone should design an app for all the “possible” racial slurs … I can imagine how exciting a game of footy will be as people check their phones every 30 seconds …

    PC madness … and still on the front page of news.com.au I see … Goodes, will love that … not so sure about the girl and her family …

    Wonder what will be next trial by ordeal? Drownings in the local river for anyone who deny’s being a racist … 🙄

    And burning if they do confess …

  6. May 26, 2013 5:34 pm

    Australia’s leading blogging hypochondriac’s on life support while CU wants to arrange another shagfest at Darling Harbour…

    You couldn’t make this sort of thing up…..! 😯

    (or maybe you could).

  7. egg permalink
    May 26, 2013 5:40 pm

    It comes under the banner of political correctness, a form of doublethink. The masses are asked to think before they open their mouths, can’t do any harm.

    13 year olds are not fully wired and needn’t be pilloried.

  8. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 26, 2013 5:53 pm

    she is then marched out of the stadium by TWO security guards, her parents told to stay in their seats

    Actually is this legal?? Wouldn’t the child by law need to have adult representation?? How many Police then grilled the girl?? Does seem a little over the top behaviour by law enforcement.

  9. Ol' Sancty permalink
    May 26, 2013 5:55 pm

    I don’t think when Goodes pointed in the first instance he knew the age of the girl. Once he’d opened the can it was too late. I’m not a huge fan of the AFL but it’s fair to say that they’ve been consistent in trying to wipe out racism and a good number of individual club members and supporters have been booted in recent times for racism.

    Collingwood supporters aren’t the only ones who engage in it, but they certainly seem to have more instances than others. Back in the day I’m surprised that the Krakouer brothers even played out at Victoria Park such was the racial abuse.

    It’s sad for the girl, and I doubt Goodes would have have bothered with it if he’d known her age, but the action is consistent and is broadly a good thing.

  10. IPA address permalink
    May 26, 2013 6:11 pm

    “I’m surprised that the Krakouer brothers even played out at Victoria Park such was the racial abuse.”

    They probably survived on the old “sticks aand stones” principle, which is no longer operative, evidently.

  11. May 26, 2013 7:09 pm

    `ape`
    barrie played a clip of him whine-ing on off-siders today, this smells like a publicity stunt

    gringo is mexican slang for white man

    rock ape yeah TB, it used to be non-racist like trogladyte , neanderthal , caveman etc , but it seems to have become exclusive

  12. Ol' Sancty permalink
    May 26, 2013 9:02 pm

    They probably survived on the old “sticks aand stones” principle, which is no longer operative, evidently.

    My recollection is that on field Jimmy used to take some action, but Phil was better able to shrug it off. Was there ever a better football pairing?

  13. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 26, 2013 9:45 pm

    From Moe.

    Victoria’s very own redneck region

  14. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 26, 2013 10:45 pm

    “How to completely miss the whole point – fkn simple minded eejut. ”

    Well WTF has Howard got to do with a 13 year old that the Left and White Australia Policy does not ?

    Who presided over Australian Immigration during the 50 and 60s.

    The liberal Nats did

    They made one mistake

    Letting a future moronic lying grub and her family in from Wales

  15. Ol' Sancty permalink
    May 26, 2013 11:08 pm

    I’m glad the Son got off Rostrum too.

  16. egg permalink
    May 27, 2013 9:08 am

    ‘THE journey to recognise Aboriginal people in the Constitution has begun in the shadow of racism, with an online anti-racism campaign featuring video of Sydney Swans star Adam Goodes forced to shut down its public comments after it was bombarded with racist abuse.

    ‘Goodes has received overwhelming support for pointing the finger at racism, in the form of a 13-year-old girl who called him an ape during the Swans v Collingwood game on Friday night.’

    Stuart Rintoul in the Oz

  17. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 27, 2013 9:12 am

    This is an interesting article, written by an ALP member and past candidate, on why he allowed his membership to lapse. It is a common sentiment, with the ALP membership in free fall.

    People just don’t see the point of membership – union domination, warlords controlling every preselection, all the infighting.

    The major parties no longer debate different beliefs, they just debate power. And neither Julia Gillard nor Tony Abbott inspires us to follow them. Instead, they try to scare us about the other side.
    No wonder people are confused. The truth is we don’t need just new leaders of the two main parties. It is not about changing Abbott or Gillard. What we need is new parties.
    Australia needs a conservative party to represent the conservative views in our community on gay marriage, asylum, the monarchy and so on. We also need a liberalist, progressive party to represent the alternative views.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/why-i-quit-the-alp-20130526-2n50x.html#ixzz2URXTb8F0

  18. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2013 10:13 am

    And the 13 yo girl is still in the news Day 3.

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/another-collingwood-supporter-caught-shouting-racist-remarks-during-afls-indigenous-round/story-fndv8g1a-1226650754865

    ‘Goodes has received overwhelming support for pointing the finger at racism, in the form of a 13-year-old girl who called him an ape during the Swans v Collingwood game on Friday night.’

    As I predicted earlier … an immature response from him has attracted the same from others …

    Now had they simply done what they are doing with the guy in the story above?

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2013 10:19 am

    People just don’t see the point of membership – union domination, warlords controlling every preselection, all the infighting.

    Do the rank and file union members a favour ToM et al … say “senior union leader” domination …

  20. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 27, 2013 11:02 am

    That’s true TB, it’s ‘union bosses’ rather than ‘unions’.
    =======
    Meanwhile, have the polls shifted?

    If not – the revised task for Gillard – she has to persuade 6,700 people to switch to her every day for the next 108 days.

    She has to get 6,700 voters to move to the ALP each day 2PP, Abbott can’t get any.

  21. egg permalink
    May 27, 2013 11:21 am

    ‘What we need is new parties.’

    From ToM’s link, opinion piece by Macleod, which is also being carried in the SMH. With the left facing annihilation and little chance of new parties forming, the ALP needs serious reforming to become relevant.

    What form would this makeover take?

  22. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 27, 2013 11:24 am

    The ALP will be forced to make some changes. Sadly the Coaltion parties can get by without reforming at all.

  23. May 27, 2013 11:36 am

    “Meanwhile, have the polls shifted?”

    Nup, they’ve just cemented in a certain election annihilation for Gillard an Labor (despite Gillard’s best efforts to silence any internal polling……..

    Labor MPs have accused party officials of deliberately delaying polling key marginal seats over fears that the results would be so bad it could spark renewed questions over Julia Gillard’s leadership.

    And they are accusing Communications Minister Stephen Conroy of being behind the strategy, in signs that a new factional brawl threatens to break out within the party before the election.

    A meeting of the federal election campaign committee on Friday was told that a decision on the next round of internal polling in key Victorian marginal seats would not be made for at least a month – after the last parliamentary sitting week.

    This is despite a request from senior MPs three months ago for polling to be done to gauge how dire the situation was in Victoria.

    Senior Labor figures have demanded that polling be done immediately in the seats of Isaacs, held by Attorney General Mark Dreyfus, Bruce, Corio, Holt and McEwan.”

    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/labor-heads-are-in-the-sand/story-fncynjr2-1226650952880#ixzz2US8lgUvG

  24. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 27, 2013 11:52 am

    “This is despite a request from senior MPs three months ago for polling to be done to gauge how dire the situation was in Victoria.”

    So no news is better than bad news.

    The Gillard camp is now officially in denial

  25. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2013 12:12 pm

    ‘What we need is new parties.’

    Hear! Hear!

    And if the bloke representing the ALP on last Friday’s Lateline is any indication the ALP is in de-e-e-e-ep shite … General Secretary of the NSW ALP … Sam Dastyari … he made Michael Kroeger sound intelligent and reasoned … a peek of things to come …

  26. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 27, 2013 12:18 pm

    Well that’s all nice to know.

    At least Gillard is duplicitous with her own party as well as the public. People should admire her consistency.

  27. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 27, 2013 12:33 pm

    “And if the bloke representing the ALP on last Friday’s Lateline is any indication the ALP is in de-e-e-e-ep shite … General Secretary of the NSW ALP … Sam Dastyari … ”

    And he is first in line to replace Bob Carr in the Senate when he retires after the election.

    Let the “rot” continue seems to be all pervading creed

  28. egg permalink
    May 27, 2013 12:56 pm

    ‘The ALP will be forced to make some changes’

    Drop their industrial wing and go into a coalition with the Greens, a defacto marriage of convenience, perhaps. Being a rump is no fun for anyone.

    If Barnaby turns the table on Windsor he’ll woo the Green vote once in power. They have much in common.

    So the ALP is in deep shit and as Walrus recently commented, they are probably doomed never to rise again.

  29. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 27, 2013 1:24 pm

    “Australia’s leading blogging hypochondriac’s on life support while CU wants to arrange another shagfest at Darling Harbour…”

    “Life Support’ = Federal Public Service Defined Benefit Superannuation Pension

  30. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 27, 2013 1:43 pm

    CU wants to arrange another shagfest at Darling Harbour…”

    The feeling might be mutual: “Lots of catching up to do”

  31. egg permalink
    May 27, 2013 1:51 pm

    A serious ALP rout at the election could see them out even longer … remember the Menzies Era 1949 – 1972.

    Its well within the realms of possibility that the party could spend a couple of decades in the wilderness if they fail to get their act together.

  32. May 27, 2013 2:28 pm

    Finally something sensible on the 13 year-old…

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/05/27/show-me-the-money/

  33. May 27, 2013 2:36 pm

    Abuse enquiry update:

    “We’ve had 25 years of intermittent hostility from the press…”

    ~ Cardinal Pell

  34. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 27, 2013 2:37 pm

    “Unfortunately the best part of the whole story, that Collingwood got flogged by 47 points, has been completely overshadowed by this innocent teenage dimwit wealthy professional sports star saying the win “means nothing”.

  35. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 27, 2013 2:38 pm

    “We’ve had 25 years of intermittent hostility from the press…”

    The shame of the press is that it was only intermittent.

  36. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 27, 2013 2:48 pm

    Perhaps the 13 year old girl can sell her story to the Womens Weekly for $50,000.

  37. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 27, 2013 3:32 pm

    “We’ve had 25 years of intermittent hostility from the press…”

    Does Pell hang out at the Cafe ?

  38. egg permalink
    May 27, 2013 3:43 pm

    Pell says he will pay compensation, whatever it takes, then someone asked him how he’s going to handle the moral dimension. Can’t wait for an answer, got work on.

  39. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 27, 2013 4:44 pm

    I just happened to be looking at ABS data on income. Public sector ordinary time earnings are 8.5% higher that the private sector.

    That’s over $6000 per year for every public servant.

    Highly paid bureaucrats live of poorly paid taxpayers.

  40. May 27, 2013 4:50 pm

    Chuckle…

    Pell referred to the Vatican as “an independent company.”

  41. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 27, 2013 4:52 pm

    …and average total cash earnings were 23% higher for public servants, a total difference (more) of $13,000 per year for each public servant.

    Disgraceful.

  42. May 27, 2013 4:53 pm

    Pell: ‘Some of the victims weren’t entirely blameless’

    Wow….just wow…

    Where’s snacty to back him up?

  43. May 27, 2013 4:58 pm

    ‘Some of the victims weren’t entirely blameless’

    Must have been communists.

    Everyone knows that we commo’s are the only ones who make Catholic clergymen molest us.

  44. May 27, 2013 4:58 pm

    Cardinal Pell admits Fr Pickering was not the only paedophile priest who Church paid money to live overseas and avoid justice…

  45. May 27, 2013 5:00 pm

    Pell says it was modest amount & it wasn’t a secret…

    (It’s just that no one knew about it)

  46. May 27, 2013 5:00 pm

    Herr Pell is making Teh Baby jeebus cry.

  47. May 27, 2013 5:02 pm

    Gai Waterhouse found guilty on both charges relating to More Joyous by Stewards inquiry…

  48. May 27, 2013 5:02 pm

    I’m shocked, that fantasy’s moral guardians would assist in perpetrating such a grotty coverup.

    Shocked, I tell you! 😯

  49. May 27, 2013 5:04 pm

    Why is everyone hating on the betting industry!?

    So unfair!

    It has all the trimmings of a leftist plot; probably instigated by the ABC & people who don’t even look like aboriginals.

  50. May 27, 2013 5:10 pm

    the pea and shell pedo`priest game kept dog`s-botherer`s entertained once they ran out of nazi`s to smuggle into south-america , l feel safe knowing they will protect me from voluntary euthanasia and gay-marriage

  51. IPA address permalink
    May 27, 2013 6:05 pm

    “It has all the trimmings of a leftist plot”

    Leftoids hate our betting freedoms.

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2013 6:10 pm

    Whew! Thank God we have a Tory government in power in Queensland … no lies, no BS, economic management professionals and a budget surplus!

    Well done, Noddy Newman & Nerds! 😆

    http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/qld-govt-scraps-plan-for-flood-levy/story-e6frfku9-1226651063042

  53. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 27, 2013 6:17 pm

    Apparently not everyone is enamoured of publicly funded scat-ballet performances:

    The first reaction of most will be outrage, but that would be a mistake. The arts community will trot out all sorts of dills, many in bow ties, to assert that the majority of their countrymen are philistines and cannot appreciate the transgressive beauty of a fresh-laid log. Our nation will become a laughingstock, they will continue, if hip cadres cannot afford to extrude meaningful works.

  54. egg permalink
    May 27, 2013 6:24 pm

    From TB’s link….

    ‘They’ll no longer receive the planned $100-plus electricity rebate, despite a 21 per cent price increase due in July.

    ‘Mr Nicholls, who blames the rise on the carbon tax, says he would have had to spend $600 million over two years to reduce the increase by five percentage points.’

    This comes in the aftermath of the Ford closure, which the Victorian Premier said was caused by a tax on a beneficial trace gas.

  55. May 27, 2013 6:44 pm

    “the pea and shell pedo`priest game kept dog`s-botherer`s entertained once they ran out of nazi`s to smuggle into south-america , l feel safe knowing they will protect me from voluntary euthanasia and gay-marriage”

    My sentiments exactly…except, in fairness, you forgot to reaffirm that it was the communists’ fault that the Institute Of Lies sent nazi war criminals to South America.

  56. May 27, 2013 6:45 pm

    Haha, splatter, that whole scat party sculpture thing is a worthy grant of my hard earned, if ever there was one. 😯

  57. May 27, 2013 6:50 pm

    WordPress/gravatar, happily, lets me call myself toiletjesus.

    Vomitbook is an arse, so I had to settle for something ‘similar’. It’s a no-no to have ‘toilet’ as part of your name apparently; fkn PC corporate america. I wonder if they let you type ‘ape’?

  58. May 27, 2013 6:58 pm

    Best 4 minutes of vid you will ever see. I nearly voided myself in funfilled excitement…

    http://www.afc.com.au/video/2013-05-27/fiveaa-call-the-last-4-minutes

  59. egg permalink
    May 27, 2013 7:17 pm

    Good game, tight finish.

  60. May 27, 2013 7:29 pm

    Not good if you are a hapless Nth Melbourne supporter!

    I do feel for them, they’ve choked in a lot of matches this year. So close, but so far.

    I thought The Famous Crows were gone for all money with about 10 min to go. Actually, I thought they were screwed with 2 min to go.
    I watched the game live with my Dad & my brother. It was fkn nuts.

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2013 7:57 pm

    ‘They’ll no longer receive the planned $100-plus electricity rebate, despite a 21 per cent price increase due in July.

    An election promise they made “after” they knew the CT was on its way … a pox on all their houses …!

  62. May 27, 2013 8:06 pm

    Well it’s good to see that Miglo has been able to post something from his death bed…. 🙄

  63. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2013 8:19 pm

    🙄

  64. IPA address permalink
    May 27, 2013 9:49 pm

    “It was fkn nuts.”

    Crowsturbator. Go team!

  65. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 27, 2013 10:53 pm

    “Well it’s good to see that Miglo has been able to post something from his death bed…. ”

    It’s good to see he was also able to “like ” a post on AIMN whilst on his deathbed since last Thursday the 23rd

    This one posted by John Lord on the 25th he “liked ” pretty much immediately

    http://theaimn.com/2013/05/25/you-can-quote-me-on-that-2/

    Since when do life support systems come equipped with an iPad and wifi?

    Do they have Foxtel as well ?

    Are there bar fridges attached to them as well ?

    I’m starting to like this “Edge of eternity stuff” that gets practiced so often.

    No wonder its popular . LOL

    The deceit continues

  66. May 27, 2013 11:51 pm

    “Crowsturbator. Go team!”

    Affirmative- but that would have been an epic win by any team (except Cuntingwood or Portscum).

    It was bullshit.

  67. egg permalink
    May 28, 2013 7:22 am

    ‘Last year, the department estimated only 5400 asylum seekers would arrive in 2012-13, before being forced to revise it to 12,000 in February.

    ‘But departmental secretary Martin Bowles told a budget estimates hearing on Monday that more than 22,500 had arrived in the 2012-13 financial year, about 2200 a month. Mr Bowles acknowledged this could realistically rise to 24,000 or 25,000 asylum seekers.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/nobenefit-policy-puts-20000-in-oblivion-20130527-2n7kd.html#ixzz2UWvvdtOu

  68. egg permalink
    May 28, 2013 7:50 am

    Heaven on earth….

    ‘A FADING mining boom may be taking the gloss off Australia’s resource-rich economy but the country has retained the title of happiest industrialised nation in the world.’

    Edna Curran in the Oz

  69. IPA address permalink
    May 28, 2013 9:21 am

    Correlation versus causation in a single graph

  70. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2013 9:45 am

    Why we can’t leave IR to the bosses! (Tony and ToM)

    A MELBOURNE business once awarded a best employer accolade is in strife after deducting wages from staff members for toilet breaks.

    http://www.news.com.au/business/worklife/staff-at-aegis-australia-call-centre-in-werribee-had-pay-cut-for-toilet-breaks/story-e6frfm9r-1226651670765

  71. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2013 9:47 am

    … the country has retained the title of happiest industrialised nation in the world.’

    Obviously not many posters here were surveyed … 😆

  72. IPA address permalink
    May 28, 2013 9:50 am

    (What would the dunnies smell be like in a Mumbai call centre?)

  73. May 28, 2013 9:50 am

    I is happy, TB.

    ‘Could Be Worse’, is one of my favourite motivational mental memes.

  74. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2013 10:05 am

    I said, “most”, Ser Tee … they know who they are 😉

    You might have read my earlier comments … this is heaven – as good as it gets … enjoy!

    Into season 2 now … flows straight on beautifully done … have to be careful not to comment! The Minister, hasn’t read the books!

    Y

  75. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2013 10:08 am

    Yes…………….I agree

    Lets allow lovely peaceful unions like the Maritime Services Union and the CFMEU to handle IR so companies like Woodside can go offshore and build their gas handling equipment in Asia then park it off the coast of WA and extract billions in profit that way.

    *It increases my dividends into my Super account

    *Avoids industrial action by the MUA and CFMEU (since they wont have jobs anyway)

    *It preserves James Price Point environmentally even though the indigenous people in the area were pro development and at one stage told Bob Brown to “fuck off its none of your business”

    * It helps employment levels in Canberra as the locals will remain unemployed under the care of a government agency.

    Oh……………….did I say it increased my dividends ?

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/floating-lng-most-viable-woodside-20130527-2n7hw.html

  76. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2013 10:12 am

    “A MELBOURNE business once awarded a best employer accolade is in strife after deducting wages from staff members for toilet breaks. ”

    Are we sure its just toilet breaks ?

    Gen Y sure likes spending worktime in a queue to get its coffee from the local barista’s ya know

  77. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2013 10:18 am

    ‘But departmental secretary Martin Bowles told a budget estimates hearing on Monday that more than 22,500 had arrived in the 2012-13 financial year, about 2200 a month. Mr Bowles acknowledged this could realistically rise to 24,000 or 25,000 asylum seekers.’

    But Eg

    That is totally misleading.

    When they were discussing the newspaper headlines this morning according to a panelist on the ABC TV Breakfast program the public doesn’t even care how many people are coming in by boat anymore. They accept it now and it’s not much of an election issue. And besides it’s only a fraction of the total of refugees.

    So stop your scaremongering.

    It’s not an issue according to Aunty

  78. IPA address permalink
    May 28, 2013 10:25 am

    “The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced. If the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt, people must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.” ~ Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106 BC – 43 BC

  79. IPA address permalink
    May 28, 2013 10:33 am

    [China’s] new leaders, who took office in March after a once-in-a-decade leadership transition, seem more determined to change course. In his speech this month, delivered to party officials nationwide by teleconference, Mr. Li, the prime minister, said, ‘If we place excessive reliance on government steering and policy leverage to stimulate growth, that will be difficult to sustain and could even produce new problems and risks.’

    ‘The market is the creator of social wealth and the wellspring of self-sustaining economic development,’ he said.

    He spoke of deregulation and slimming down the role of government.

    ‘Li Keqiang thinks like an economist,’ said Barry J. Naughton, a professor of Chinese economy at the University of California, San Diego. ‘He wants the government to get out of the way.’

    NYT: China Plans to Reduce the State’s Role in the Economy

  80. IPA address permalink
    May 28, 2013 10:41 am

    Julia, whose last name has not been released, has now explained the incident to Nine News saying she yelled out “way to kick ya ape” on the spur of the moment …”She’s only a 13-year-old young girl that lives in a country town and doesn’t get out that much.”

  81. egg permalink
    May 28, 2013 10:42 am

    Aunty is known to avoid unpalatable troofs.

  82. egg permalink
    May 28, 2013 10:48 am

    The new CEO with China Inc. is a free marketeer, which is a relief, while the PLA has other plans just in case this experiment with free market economics goes belly up.

  83. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2013 10:51 am

    Bloody Hell…………….!

    Can we hear the end of that damn 13 year old “ape” story some day.

  84. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2013 10:56 am

    And besides this chick has class in a when rascism is involved

    “What did the fatter wog say to the skinnier wog?”

  85. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:03 am

    “Can we hear the end of that damn 13 year old “ape” story some day.”

    Silly Walrus!

    This is a ‘teachable moment’. The perfect occasion for the virtuous intelligentsia to exhibit their moral superiority, identify with the poor suffering victim, bash the bogans and burn the witch. Over and over again. Others see a great opportunity for counter-attack, pointing out the the OTT nature of the response. Everyone wants to score points here, so on and on they go aping virtue for political gain.

  86. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:06 am

    Everyone in Moe-
    *Uses racist terms
    *Is a racist
    *Has both parents on welfare
    *Doesn’t get out much

    Plus she barracks for Collingwood.

    Moe is like Emerald, Qld, but with rain rather than heat.

    So it’s all quite unsurprising.

  87. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:07 am

    Sydney people dont even watch the AFL perse

    They only watch the Swans in good years.

  88. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:12 am

    And while we are talking about toilet breaks here’s another great example of $100K in taxpayer funding of the “Arts” well spent…………….

    “Difficult territory is a cornerstone of the visual arts – so artist Mikala Dwyer knew it would be confronting last night when she invited Balletlab dancers to empty their bowels as part of a performance at the Australian Centre for Contemporary Art.

    The two-hour act saw the six dancers, masked but naked beneath sheer garments, move around a room in the gallery before sitting on transparent stools and performing – only if they were moved to do so – what is usually one of our most private and rarely discussed daily acts.”

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/theatre/dancers-display-private-movements-20130524-2k6x3.html#ixzz2UXs7VfRj

  89. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:17 am

    More on the Ballet…………..

    “While it all might set tongues wagging, Dwyer, a highly respected artist with an impressive CV who is a painting lecturer at the University of Sydney, hopes we will do so with seriousness, maturity and sensitivity.

    As she said, this is humanity’s most democratic act: from royalty and supermodels to politicians or the tiniest newborn baby, we all participate in this necessary biological function. ”Shit has a great truth to it,” she said.”

    Well…………….so does breathing

  90. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:19 am

    And you can get it on DVD apparently

    A great gift for Fathers Day……..

  91. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:19 am

    Gen Y sure likes spending worktime in a queue to get its coffee from the local barista’s ya know

    There are much better ways to treat staff rather than as robots controlled by a computer … it doesn’t bred loyloyalty and involvement … and minute counting is so 1930’s production line thinking … did I tell ever you about my six months working in a Time & Motion Department in the 1980’s ? (All their workers – steel reo, mesh and fencing – were paid on base + individual piecework bonus – timed to the second!). As a m/mech I learned all about R&R times for warranty …

    By the time I was a manager I had learned how to develop work teams who set their own targets based on the company’s goals … they could go for a pee whenever they liked … but woe betide anyone who wasted the team’s time and patience … treat adults like adults and you’ll get adult responses … and improved effectiveness and efficiency – productivity …

    (Treat ’em like gen Y and you’ll get stereotype gen Y response and reaction … they might save a couple of minutes pee time … but they’ll lose far more from disgrutled troops …)

  92. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:19 am

    That performance sounds really nice.

    I’m going home to Fifi & Lulu tonight and saying –
    What should we do tonight? We could go to the local Italian place, or perhaps go and see the new Star Trek film, but I hear there’s a great show on. The dancers take a shit on stage. It sounds like fun!

  93. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:32 am

    “There are much better ways to treat staff”

    This will pretty much be a non-issue in union-exploited industries as most jobs will go the way of the Ford workers’ jobs.

  94. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:35 am

    Professor Bunyip’s take on scat-ballet as great art.

  95. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:40 am

    Its things like the scat ballet that piss (pun intended) people off no end.

    When they see $100K wasted literally on crap like that they are also entitled to ask what type of moronic public servant decided that might be a good idea. He/she should be fired as well.

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:40 am

    Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106 BC – 43 BC

    ToSY, one of your best finds! That is absolutely brilliant ! Our Egyptian friend was right … nothing is new …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Day 4 …

    As I commented on Day 1, sb …

    Silly Walrus! etc etc

    The silliness is that the people attempting to change the world in a week are actually putting it back a decade!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Moe is like Emerald, Qld, but with rain rather than heat.

    And better mannered, educated and obviously more intelligent not too many locals follow AFL … (my work took me to Emerald where I satyed regularly … only ever driven through Moe a couple of times)

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    when she invited Balletlab dancers to empty their bowels as part of a performance at the Australian Centre for Contemporary Art.

    Can someone please explain to me what is artistic about this?

    And how the moron gets to teach others this shite! 🙄

    Freedom of expression is one thing … but sick people being allowed to display their disease as art demonstrates a society with no respect for human beings …

  97. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:42 am

    … where I satyed regularly

    Sorry that was Kingaroy – where they grow the peanuts … I stayed in Emerald … 🙂

  98. Evil Walrus permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:51 am

    Why does the Left even insist on Arts funding anyway ?

    I’m not sure too many nurses or cleaners are that interested in Ballet, Opera or Picasso

  99. grodo permalink
    May 28, 2013 11:56 am

    Reminds me of Yes Minister.

  100. May 28, 2013 12:06 pm

    “The dancers take a shit on stage”…

    It’s remarkable what passes for “entertainment” these days….

    Celebrity Splash, people taking a dump on stage…. where will it all end?

  101. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2013 12:16 pm

    Watched, Jack Reacher, starring, Tom Cruise – last night (daughter hired the BD – 🙂 )

    Rather enjoyed it too … I was informed by my 15 yo grandson and his mum, who are both avid readers, that Tome Cruise is nothing like the character in the books, (6’4″ and built like a brick shithouse*, apparently) so I’m glad I haven’t read any JR books yet …

    *to continue the theme here … 😉

  102. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 28, 2013 12:19 pm

    The public servant who approved it had to decide whether to give the $100,000 to-
    *An indigenous cultural festival, such as one by The Koori Heritage Trust
    *A performance of Swan Lake by some junior dancers at NIDA
    *People being paid to take a crap

    The public servant probably thought people taking a crap looked familiar to his own work.

  103. IPA address permalink
    May 28, 2013 1:49 pm

    Why Marx was wrong about capitalism

  104. IPA address permalink
    May 28, 2013 2:05 pm

    “Third Way” politics and its fruits

  105. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 28, 2013 2:29 pm

    Tell me this IPA, from the time of Keating on, lowering tariffs and opening the market to competition was supposed to strengthen our industries and make us more competitive. Is there any evidence that this has actually happened?

    I like having cheaper cars and TV’s and all that but I get a little concerned whether there will be anything left when the mining boom slows down.

  106. grodo permalink
    May 28, 2013 2:41 pm

    Marx did not see the dictatorship of the proletariat, which came about through war, creating technological advancement beyond his comprehension.

    China is the Third Way.

  107. IPA address permalink
    May 28, 2013 3:39 pm

    “Tell me this IPA, from the time of Keating on, lowering tariffs and opening the market to competition was supposed to strengthen our industries and make us more competitive. Is there any evidence that this has actually happened?”

    No evidence for that whatsoever. However, in my opinion, it was broadly a good thing as the far as average consumers are concerned. They were being forced to pay higher prices for cars to protect the interests of those involved in car manufacturing (the same goes for textiles, clothing and footwear). Having said that, though, we are still overpaying for our cars, relatively speaking.

  108. May 28, 2013 4:04 pm

    The secret footage they don’t want you to see…

    Catching Up and Min down at the cafe having a chat about “life support…”

  109. May 28, 2013 4:05 pm

    😯

  110. Really Evil Mining Investor permalink
    May 28, 2013 4:24 pm

    “….I get a little concerned whether there will be anything left when the mining boom slows down.”

    Why ????????????????????????

    By the time the miners are through with you even the ground beneath your feet would have ben moved and you with it to either China or Inja

  111. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2013 4:26 pm

    Latest “gossip” on 4BC radio (the local Tory station BTW) is that, Noddy Newman & The Nerds, are looking at increasing the elecricity tariff for people with solar panels connected to the grid …

    They also reported that some councils in NSWhave installed water meters on water tanks …

    Now oddly enough … I always thought that a property owner had to give council (or anyone else for that matter) permission.

    Competition & Consumer Act 2010 might come into play too …

    Another Noddy (I Will Never Lie) Newman, election promise broken … and they just keep coming …

  112. Really Evil Mining Investor permalink
    May 28, 2013 4:32 pm

    “Latest “gossip” on 4BC radio (the local Tory station BTW) is that, Noddy Newman & The Nerds, are looking at increasing the elecricity tariff for people with solar panels connected to the grid … ”

    And so it should be.

    Afterall you are using the grid to supply your expensive power to others.

  113. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2013 4:33 pm

    By the time the miners are through with you even the ground beneath your feet would have ben moved and you with it to either China or Inja

    Mmmmm … tru dat … beware the State government (wherever you live) … the crown can do whatever they like … (State – not Feds) …

  114. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2013 4:39 pm

    Afterall you are using the grid to supply your expensive power to others.

    Yeah, funny dat!

    The “others” … who didn’t spend thousands of dollars are bitching, saying that prices are rising (21% just announced) because they are “subsidising” solar …

    Do pollies get anything right?

    We’ve got a shed at the side of our house big enough for a battery bank (we can generate more than our present needs) … The Minister, won’t like it, its her gardening shed … still she is, The Minister for War, Water, Power & Entertainment …

  115. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2013 6:56 pm

    Do politicians REALLY represent the will of the people …

    The Roy Morgan Poll showed 65 per cent of voters backed same-sex marriage compared to 35 per cent opposing it.

    There were 70 per cent of women and 59 per cent of men listed as supporters, and 79 per cent of all voters wanted Parliament to pass legislation for same-sex marriage, Roy Morgan found.

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/vote-on-same-sex-marriage-unlikely-to-go-ahead/story-fncynjr2-1226652218249

  116. egg permalink
    May 29, 2013 7:07 am

    John Madigan speaks his mind and I applaud him.

    ”This place is rotten to the core … I’d like to see it implode,” he told a Victorian newspaper on the subject of the 43rd parliament.

    ”They wonder why people hate their bloody guts and we have a high informal vote.”

    And then: ”I’ve run over better rabbits than these people.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/ive-run-over-better-rabbits-than-these-people-senator-20130528-2n9mg.html#ixzz2Ucir087I

  117. egg permalink
    May 29, 2013 7:53 am

    I feel a bullet train coming on….

    ‘FEDERAL and state governments face new demands to privatise hundreds of billions of dollars worth of their assets from superannuation funds that say they are investing in offshore electricity, water and telecommunications even though Australia is facing a $770 billion infrastructure shortfall.

    ‘The Industry Super Network yesterday released a landmark report that recommends governments sell existing public infrastructure to super funds to unlock up to $100bn for cash-strapped governments to put into nation-building projects.’

    Annabel Hepworth in the Oz

  118. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 29, 2013 8:57 am

    Senator John Faulkner on the corrupt buffoonery that is Labor under Gillard: I’m not angry any more, I am just ashamed.

  119. IPA address permalink
    May 29, 2013 10:13 am

    No-one here seems willing or able to answer my question about the basis for the quote “The catholic church made in $16.2 billion in Australia last year alone. Tax free.”, so I’ll give my own thoughts on what it might be referring to.

    That figure is probably an estimation of the turnover of all enterprises associated with the Catholic Church in Australia. That is, all school fees collected by Catholic primary, secondary and tertiary educational institutions; all fees earned by Catholic-run hospitals; all donations to Catholic charities; and all donations to Catholic parishes. That is, its total turnover before expenses or costs of services provided. That is, the church’s gross income.

    Churches are effectively not-for-profit enterprises. That is, there are no owners or shareholders to whom dividends need to be distributed, so all monies received are put back into funding the provision of services.

    A church would likely not be obliged to pay any tax even if it was a taxable entity. There would be no profit to tax.

  120. IPA address permalink
    May 29, 2013 10:24 am

    Oops! Wrong thread.

  121. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 29, 2013 10:30 am

    “A church would likely not be obliged to pay any tax even if it was a taxable entity. There would be no profit to tax.”

    An interesting point, IPA. I assume the intention is to have all receipts as assessable income and all outgoings as non-deductible.

    If the churches admitted that they were in the business of making profit (which they then donated top DGR charities) then they would get deductions for all expenses of their “business” including staging religious services where the plate is passed around.

  122. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2013 10:51 am

    DAY 4 …

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/eddie-mcguire-makes-on-air-gaffe-about-adam-goodes-and-king-kong/story-fncynjr2-1226652776987

    To be continued …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    We do NOT live in Europe … better to build more airports … flights are quicker and cheaper … from memory (I’m sure ToSY will check 🙂 ) the UK fits into Queensland around 7 times …

  123. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2013 10:58 am

    And Queensland pollies are about get a $50,000 pay rise … but, but, we’ve haven’t any money …

    But Gary Hardgrave* makes a lot of sense for a change …

    THE link between the salaries of state and federal MPs is set to give Queensland’s 89 state MPs a pay rise of $50,000.

    As outrageous as it seems, this nexus keeps state MPs at a pay rate $500 less each year than federal MPs. Yet state MPs represent one-third of the number of people in a federal electorate.

    Ex Liberal Minister now on 4BC (the Tory Radio in Brisbane) …

  124. Extraordinarily Callous Walrus permalink
    May 29, 2013 11:48 am

    “That is, its total turnover before expenses or costs of services provided. That is, the church’s gross income.”

    You could probably throw in Federal and State Government school funding into Toilet’s $16 Billion as well.

    No one has asked where Toilet got the figure from……..

  125. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 11:55 am

    “No one has asked where Toilet reb got the figure from……..”

    Smells like a twitter meme to me.

  126. May 29, 2013 11:59 am

    “No one has asked where Toilet reb got the figure from……..”

    That’s not true…!!!

    You did ask.

  127. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2013 12:03 pm

    Chuckle …

  128. May 29, 2013 12:21 pm

    I never came up with any figure!

    So, gfys.

    All I did was, reasonably I thought, ponder upon why the Institute of Fabricated & Revised Dogmas should be tax exempt.
    I read PIAUndress’ speculation with interest. I’m unswayed.

    To my mind, anyone could make up some fictitious shit & then claim tax exemption.

  129. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2013 12:25 pm

    Why do governments … and anyone else for that matter … think that printing more money fixes problems with their economy?

    Dumb and dumber … is anyone with any sense running the place?

  130. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 12:27 pm

    “To my mind, anyone could make up some fictitious shit & then claim tax exemption.”

    Go for your life.

  131. May 29, 2013 12:48 pm

    To my mind, anyone could make up some fictitious shit & then claim tax exemption…as long as they can indoctrinate enough useful idiots into following them.

  132. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 12:55 pm

    “as long as they can indoctrinate enough useful idiots into following them.”

    You don’t even need to do that. You just have to agree you won’t be “distributing profits or assets for the benefit of particular persons”. You could start the Flying Spaghetti Monster Appreciation Society, be its only member, and still get tax-free status. It just can’t be “carried on for the profit or gain of its individual members”.

  133. May 29, 2013 12:58 pm

    The vatican was gilt by god itself, I suppose. The church never plundered or appropriated assets during its questionable colonisations or conquests.

  134. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2013 1:02 pm

    Money lenders and a JC altercation come to mind …

  135. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 1:17 pm

    “The vatican was gilt by god itself, I suppose. The church never plundered or appropriated assets during its questionable colonisations or conquests.”

    I see. So “The church” conducted crusades in the middle ages therefore should pay Australian income tax in the 21st century. 🙄

  136. May 29, 2013 1:35 pm

    No.

    That’s incidental.

    I was just reminding adherents that the man made Institution hasn’t always been altruistic; despite how it would like to portray itself. Thus the inner turmoil it finds itself in when it gets caught out trying to sweep its pedo-priests under the carpet.

  137. May 29, 2013 1:41 pm

    Try thinking of it this way…

    A gang of criminals, high on delusion & self righteousness, amasses a fortune through plunder & pillage.
    It ensures that it is a wealthy force to be reckoned with, for many years to come.
    Some time further along the timeline, gang members plead that they’ve found ‘enlightenment’. They swear off of their evil ways & claim noble motivations. They desperately work to gloss over their past misdeeds.
    But…they don’t return their plunder.

  138. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 1:45 pm

    “Try thinking of it this way…”

    Analogies are bullshit. Try using facts.

  139. May 29, 2013 1:47 pm

    Yes, I’m sure you have no idea what my point was.

    It was just bullshit. 🙄

    Good for you.

  140. May 29, 2013 1:48 pm

    Bit of a hiccup there on the timeline of overglossing when they helped Nazi war criminals flee to South America; I must admit.

  141. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 1:55 pm

    “Yes, I’m sure you have no idea what my point was.”

    Oh no, I’m sure I know exactly what your point is: The church is evil, god is bullshit, and believers are delusional. Have I missed anything?

  142. May 29, 2013 1:58 pm

    “The church is evil, god is bullshit, and believers are delusional.”

    That is a valid observation isn’t it…??

  143. May 29, 2013 2:04 pm

    No you pretty much covered it.

    I might amend it to..”The Church has undertaken evil deeds in the past, as it is a human Institution which cannot live up to its ideals, god is bullshit, and most believers are benignly comfortable in their generally harmless state of delusion.”.

    I didn’t mean it as absolutely as you made it sound. 😉 …except for the ‘god is bullshit’ bit; I don’t shy away from that.

  144. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 2:07 pm

    Might as well link to your source for “they helped Nazi war criminals flee to South America” while your at it. I’ve heard someone here mention it before (you?) but I hadn’t read it elsewhere. I’d like to take a look.

  145. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 2:18 pm

    (We’ve opened the bar early here at stately IPA Manor. Just because.)

  146. May 29, 2013 2:28 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany#The_Ratlines:_Helping_Nazis_to_flee

    The Ratlines: Helping Nazis to flee [edit]

    Main article: Ratlines (history)

    At the end of the war, top Catholic officers organized the so-called ratlines that allowed Nazi war criminals to flee towards South America and other destinations via Francoist Spain. Bishop Alois Hudal and Cardinals Luigi Maglione, Eugene Tisserant and Antonio Caggiano, as well as the seminary in San Girolamo degli Illirici of Father Krunoslav Draganović were specially active in this task. Thousands of presumed European Catholic immigrants, actually Nazis in disguise, were able to escape from Europe using these networks.[333]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(history)

    I have a book I could dig out, but I don’t think I can send it down the interwebz.

    I don’t think it’s disputed, although it’s understandable that catholics wouldn’t go out of their way to publicise it.

  147. May 29, 2013 2:32 pm

    I’d love to open the bar here at The Buffalo Lodge (another, formerly Catholic Institution, fwiw)…but I have a mate who I haven’t seen for a year or so on his way down from Adelaide as I type. I better go mow the lawn. I’m getting enough glares from, The Anchor, for sitting here & commenting away already. 😉 🙂

    The Bar will be well & truly open for about the next 5 days…

  148. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 2:39 pm

    OMFG! Eddie Maguire press conference about to begin on Nine. Apparently he made some (racist?) comment or other on radio this morning about … wait for it … Adam Goodes(!). I’m sure he’ll be suitably contrite and probably will self-flaggelate on national television. (One can only hope, anyway. 😉 )

  149. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 2:41 pm

    *flagellate?

  150. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 2:45 pm

    It’s okay, as you were. It was just a slip of the tongue, he put his foot in his mouth, apparently.

  151. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 29, 2013 3:14 pm

    No doubt Goodes sees the face of racism in Australia more clearly now and it is not a 13 year old girl this time.

    Are the police going to detain Eddie and question him for two hours?

    Ape-ology not accepted?

  152. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 3:28 pm

    Moving speech in parliament from Martin Ferguson as he announces his retirement at the election. Tony Abbot chokes up during his tribute to Ferguson, who he described as an honourable man, a worthy opponent, and a great Australian.

  153. Terrifyingly Evil Walrus permalink
    May 29, 2013 3:56 pm

    Gee you are a forgiving lot in Melbourne.

    The Circus Wagons stop…………………Eddie gets off………………….says a few words……………………..the Dogs show their teeth and bark and howl a bit…………………Eddie is asked should he give up one of at least one of his Circus Acts ?…………………….He says “No”………………..he gets back on his wagon……………………..and the Circus Wagons move on………..

    Cant wait for Day 5 and a new Bucketful of Crazy

  154. Terrifyingly Evil Walrus permalink
    May 29, 2013 3:59 pm

    Let us be in no doubt that Eddie was trying to extract a joke out of a regrettable event to which he had plenty to say about post event.

    For that he should resign from Radio and Collingwood.

  155. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 4:06 pm

    I actually reckon I know what Eddie was getting at, even though he denies it and says it was a slip of the tongue. He was suggesting that given the controversy surrounding Goodes and the ape “slur”, it would be a PR person’s dream to get him down to Melbourne for the opening night of King Kong. And it would be, and would generate huge publicity (there’s no such thing as bad publicity). Except that they wouldn’t do it for fear of the grievance industry unleashing their QCs and SC on the racists who would dare carry out such a cunning stunt.

  156. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2013 4:10 pm

    A gang of criminals, high on delusion & self righteousness, amasses a fortune through plunder & pillage.

    Are we talking about The Mafia …or the Royal Family … here?

    Analogies are bullshit. Try using facts.

    LOL! Or just copy wot someone else said … analogies are good for us simpletons … 🙂

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    For that he should resign from Radio and Collingwood.

    And apologise to a little 13 yo girl … this sort of crap cost a nurse her life in another stupid radio event … WTF is in charge here anyone!

  157. Terrifyingly Evil Walrus permalink
    May 29, 2013 4:26 pm

    “……….it would be a PR person’s dream to get him down to Melbourne for the opening night of King Kong.”

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm……………..!

    IPA…………….Have you been drinkin’ out on my “Bucketful of Crazy” today ?

    Why would Goodes even contemplate belittling everything he has had to say so far with a PR stunt ?

    This whole thing should have been done and dusted Sunday night at the latest.

    I’m not sure who I detest more on TV………………………..Eddie or Tom Waterhouse

  158. May 29, 2013 4:30 pm

    “there’s no such thing as bad publicity”

    Try telling that to Qantas…

    You’ve clearly never worked in PR.. 😯

  159. Terrifyingly Evil Walrus permalink
    May 29, 2013 4:30 pm

    “Why do governments … and anyone else for that matter … think that printing more money fixes problems with their economy?

    Dumb and dumber … is anyone with any sense running the place?”

    From what you said it seems Catching Up is apparently

  160. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 4:32 pm

    “IPA…………….Have you been drinkin’ out on my “Bucketful of Crazy” today ?”

    I only had the one, your honour. (Eddie was just musing about the olden days. Don’t get me wrong, I’m no fan, I just hear what he was saying.)

  161. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 4:33 pm

    “You’ve clearly never worked in PR.. ”

    I’m using the bin drinkin defence.

  162. IPAddress permalink
    May 29, 2013 4:37 pm

    Bad Publicity

  163. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2013 4:47 pm

    I’m using the bin drinkin defence.

    Isn’t that racist!!!

    We all know that joke!

  164. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 29, 2013 4:59 pm

    We all know that joke!

  165. egg permalink
    May 29, 2013 7:41 pm

    ‘The NSW government thought it would take four years to raise $200 million via its Waratah bond issue, but it has taken just five months, thanks to wealthy Chinese seeking ­Australian residency.

    ‘The windfall for NSW is part of the federal government’s newly introduced Significant Investor Visa (SIV), which grants permanent residency to those willing to invest $5 million in approved Australian assets. Since the scheme opened in late November, 279 invitations have been issued by the Commonwealth, equating to $1.3 billion in commitments Australia-wide. There are expectations the new visa class, ­similar to those on offer in Canada and the US, could raise $5 billion annually.

    ‘It is yet another example of how China’s newly rich, who are concerned about air pollution and food safety at home, are having an increasingly large impact on Australia. They see it as a safe haven for their assets and ideal place to educate their children. Victoria and NSW are the two most popular destinations for those seeking an SIV, followed by Queensland and Western Australia.

    ‘But NSW was the only state to insist that $1.5 million, or a third of the total investment, be directed towards its Waratah bonds.’

    ‘Grigg and Murray in the Fin Review

  166. May 29, 2013 7:51 pm

    Next youtube hit, eddie mcguire and `footballers` vidoe and sound-track `apeman` by the kinks

  167. Disgustingly Evil Walrus permalink
    May 29, 2013 10:47 pm

    ALP got passed some Super bills today.

    Over 60s can put in extra 10k from 1 July and on 1 July 2014 the over 50s can too.

    Concessional caps I mean.

    Passed into Law today.

  168. egg permalink
    May 30, 2013 7:58 am

    This is apparently the recession we have to have. Too easy, we may not be competitive but we are still happy.

    ‘AUSTRALIA has fallen to its least-competitive position among 60 advanced and developing economies in a quarter of a century.

    ‘As concerns mount that the end of the resources boom will trigger the first local recession in more than two decades, Australia has slipped one place to 16th on the index compiled by the IMD World Competitiveness Centre.’

    Adam Creighton in the Oz

  169. egg permalink
    May 30, 2013 8:36 am

    On the happiness thingy, the Oz Guardian is asking commenters their opinion on happiness.

    ‘Would you say that financial security would be the most important factor, or would it be a roof over your head to call your own? Tell us your requirements for happiness.’

    Read the full article at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/29/how-measure-happiness-australia-oecd#ixzz2UivZ1rwV

    Its more of an international crowd over there, quite funny, might hang out there when they put up a weather story. My sword is getting rusty through lack of use.

  170. Evil Walrus( 666 The Mark of the Beast) permalink
    May 30, 2013 8:52 am

    Sorry but I don’t buy into all this gloom and doom shit.

    Sentiment will pick up post 14 September. The Dollar will fall increasing our competitiveness and because our mining exports are denominated in USD (as most commodities are) we will see a lift in Mining Company revenue and profits.

    Hopefully it will get to at least $0.85

  171. egg permalink
    May 30, 2013 9:05 am

    Walrus makes sense and all that in addition to the flood of Chinese coming here. The future is now assured…. buy Waratah Bonds.

  172. TB Queensland permalink
    May 30, 2013 10:19 am

    Hear, hear, Wally … however the biggest problem is Europe … they are heading for a deep recession (already in one) …

    if people don’t buy in EU China’s productivity slips too … the system was NEVER fixed after 2007 and printing money is dumb …

    Australia IS still the place to be when the shite hits the proverbial … but I’m not convinced Hockey is any better than Swan … and even you would agree Andrew Robb should be given his golden parachute … he should have been shown the aeroplane door years ago …

  173. Evil Walrus( 666 The Mark of the Beast) permalink
    May 30, 2013 10:32 am

    “..and even you would agree Andrew Robb should be given his golden parachute ”

    Yep………..Arthur Sinodinos for Finance.

    As for Joe…………………………Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm ?

    Although I think he is slooooooooooooooooooooowly getting a grasp of it.

    The first thing the LNP needs to do is say

    “Look we do need to be prudent with expenditure but there is plenty of room for optimism”

  174. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 30, 2013 10:48 am

    “Hopefully it will get to at least $0.85”

    Have you shorted the A$? Australia’s George Soros?

  175. grodo permalink
    May 30, 2013 11:37 am

    Recession continues in Europe and deflation is still a risk, but that shouldn’t worry us. Japan is also of concern.

    I see a triumverate (sic) of China, US and Oz becoming the economic driving force in this part of the world.

  176. Evil Walrus( 666 The Mark of the Beast) permalink
    May 30, 2013 12:04 pm

    “Have you shorted the A$? Australia’s George Soros?”

    LOL

    No

    But I am long on miners like BHP, Rio, Incitec Pivot (they blow things up like ore bodies), Newmont, Santos and the crown jewel of Australian LNG Woodside.

    As they cutback their Capex they’ll start accumulating bid wads of cash from expanded production. Even if the USD price goes down the AUD weakness will compensate to a degree which should mean an uplift in earnings payout ratios = increased dividends = increased share price.

    I don’t share Ross Garnauts doom and gloom shit about China being “finished”. The faster he fucks off into oblivion the better.

    If he reckons that the leaders of China are going to leave more than half their population scrounging for a few crumbs after the first part of its modernisation then he’s more fucked in the head than even I thought.

    The last thing the Peoples Committee is going to allow are diaffected hordes roaming about.

    Totalitarian regimes get a bit nervoius about that sort of thing.

    The faster that scumbag c**t Garnaut is thrown out onto the nearest street the better.

    He’s a prized dickhead and he has never properly answered for his part the Ok Tedi scandal.

    http://www.socialvoice.com.au/component/content/article/1-stories/161-ross-garnett-the-paleontologist

    Rant over …………………..I feel better now

  177. Evil Walrus( 666 The Mark of the Beast) permalink
    May 30, 2013 12:15 pm

    Completely off topic I came across a new and free wine App yesterday. Its called Vivino. I loaded it and then last night tested it on a bottle of Pinot Noir. Basically you take a photo of the label and it then matches it to a database and gives you some more details and reviews of the wine.

    Pretty nifty for “free”

  178. Evil Walrus( 666 The Mark of the Beast) permalink
    May 30, 2013 12:18 pm

    The PM has a novel experience with multiculturism

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/whitebread-salami-sandwich-thrown-at-prime-minister-julia-gillard/story-fncynjr2-1226653656553

  179. egg permalink
    May 30, 2013 12:28 pm

    Garnaut is a complete dill and I agree with you on China.

  180. egg permalink
    May 30, 2013 2:04 pm

    O/T

    ‘MUSLIM fundamentalism may one day be seen in the same way as mental illness is today and be “curable”, according to a leading neuroscientist.

    ‘Kathleen Taylor, a science author and research scientist at the University of Oxford, said that strong, negative beliefs could be eradicated using techniques that were already under development.’

    Simon De Bruxelles in the Oz

  181. TB Queensland permalink
    May 30, 2013 2:08 pm

    I’ve been informed by someone in the infrastructre mining project side of the business that upwards of 10,000 engineers are now looking for work … his own office based in Oz has been reduced from over 200 to 55 … its an international company and the slowdown is global … Garnaut is a twit …

  182. TB Queensland permalink
    May 30, 2013 4:23 pm

    I know hoe much, James, loves Libra ads … here’s the latest …

    Enjoy!

  183. Walrus The Satanic One (Beware of Immitations) permalink
    May 30, 2013 5:11 pm

    Does anyone else share my annoyance at owning an iPhone4 with all the attendant Apps but looking longingly at Samsung 4’s ?

    I must say everything after iPhone4 like the iPhone4S has been such a tiny incremental improvement on the Iphone 4 I’m getting ready to jump out of the Apple ecology bullshit and go with Samsung.

    Especially since it already has presence in TV and home theatre.

    I’m getting very impatient for the next Apple “gamechanger”

  184. Walrus The Satanic One (Beware of Immitations) permalink
    May 30, 2013 5:17 pm

    If I’m going to listen to an economist about Australia its going to be Bill Evans, Shane Oliver or Craig James.

    All the rest can go f**k themselves…………….especially Chris “Son of Garnaut” Richardson

  185. May 30, 2013 5:34 pm

    “Does anyone else share my annoyance at owning an iPhone4 with all the attendant Apps but looking longingly at Samsung 4’s ?”

    YES!!!!

    Sent from my iphone

  186. Walrus the True Satanic One (Beware of Cheap Immitations) permalink
    May 30, 2013 5:54 pm

    So I should not feel lonely about it then.

    And Tim Cook is said to be looking at an iWatch to surf the net.

    Is he fucking serious ?

    I’m not going back to wearing watches. If that’s his idea of a “gamechanger” I’m out of his ecosystem.

    Apple is today’s Nokia

  187. TB Queensland permalink
    May 30, 2013 6:03 pm

    Apple is today’s Nokia

    But, but St Steve is hardly cold?

    Fkn fanbois … grow some balls and buy some real tech … fkn Apple they even stole the fkn name and then broke the clause that said they would not deal in music … yeah eco?

  188. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 30, 2013 6:08 pm

    “I’m getting very impatient for the next Apple “gamechanger”

    Apple are victims of their own success. After the iPod, iPhone and iPad, people expect “game-changers” from Apple as a matter of course. If they do manage to come up with another one, it is unlikely to be in the mobile phone category. That is now being refined by degrees, and Samsung and HTC seem to be better at this.

    I’ve got the Kogan $300 per year deal (unlimited calls/text/6gb data per month) on the Telstra 3G network and it works fine. I kept my old Galaxy Nexus as it still does most of what I need. I might get a Galaxy Note 3 when it comes out later in the year if I can justify the price to my wife.

    Two rules for buying Androids – don’t buy a phone if it doesn’t take a microSD card or if it does not have a replaceable battery. My Galaxy Nexus doesn’t have a microSD card slot and I hate that. Also, the new HTC One is a well made phone, but has neither a microSD slot nor a replaceable battery.

  189. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 30, 2013 6:12 pm

    Sony and Pebble are already into the smart watch game. Apple is playing catch-up. Maybe they will do a better job of it.

  190. egg permalink
    May 30, 2013 6:59 pm

    ‘But with Canberra property sales set to tumble if Tony Abbott surges into office – and then goes about axing thousands of public service jobs – it might be that Brisbane-based couple are simply selling up before the bottom falls out of the market.’

    guffaw

  191. egg permalink
    May 30, 2013 7:16 pm

    ‘THE 6 per cent slide in the Australian dollar in the two weeks since the budget, making it the world’s worst performed currency after the Syrian pound…’

    Uren in the Oz

    This is not Wayne’s fault, no matter what Nils thinks.

  192. May 30, 2013 7:39 pm

    MIn has a candid moment at the cafe…

    “I’m currently at Tweed Heads after which I’m heading to Darling Harbour to give a few blow jobs..”

    Does this mean the Cafe Conference 2013 is on?

    Will Miglo live blog from his death bed…??

    Will Pip get an invite…??

  193. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 30, 2013 7:52 pm

    There has been some comments in the media recently that Peter Costello left some problems for Wayne Swan because he gave tax cuts when we really could not afford them. ALP supporters have been trying to blame Costello for the Swan budget deficits. I do not agree with the allegation. You are in govt to solve problems and if Costello had a revenue problem he would not introduce tax cuts.

    Then i came across this

    http://www.budget.gov.au/2013-14/content/overview/html/overview_41.htm

    The Government has delivered $47 billion of tax cuts in our first four years since coming to office. In addition, we have provided further tax cuts as assistance for the cost of living impact of the carbon price from 2012‑13. Even after accounting for the small increase in the Medicare levy in 2014‑15 we will be delivering total tax cuts of around $20 billion a year over the next four years compared to the 2007‑08 tax scales.”

    So the ALP supporters who condemn the Costello tax cuts have nothing to say about the Swan tax cuts. They go back 6 years to condemn Costello but are blind to the Swan tax cuts.

  194. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 30, 2013 8:45 pm

    That’s very friendly of Min.

  195. May 30, 2013 9:02 pm

    “That’s very friendly of Min.”

    Well it’s certainly a unique selling point…

  196. Disgustingly Evil Walrus permalink
    May 30, 2013 10:10 pm

    Does she take her teeth out ?

  197. egg permalink
    May 30, 2013 10:35 pm

    Essential Polls reckon 70% of Australians have total trust in the ABC…. that’s a lot of brainwashed people.

    http://essentialvision.com.au/trust-in-institutions-3

  198. Disgustingly Evil Walrus permalink
    May 30, 2013 10:47 pm

    I do apologise.

    My last post was very unclassy and crass.

    Let me put it this way…….

    “elle ne prend ses dents sur”

    After all we are talking “French”

  199. Disgustingly Evil Walrus permalink
    May 30, 2013 10:50 pm

    In other News

    The NBN Rollout seems to be going well

    As we forecast .

    LOL

  200. egg permalink
    May 31, 2013 7:05 am

    The French kiss…..

    Voulez-vous galocher avec moi?

  201. IPA address permalink
    May 31, 2013 9:34 am

    “An agent for the Duke of Ferrara once wrote a letter – which survives – reporting to his master on the great Venetian painter Titian. Titian’s health is fine, he says, but he gets exhausted because he paints women in various poses then has sex with them.”

  202. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2013 9:46 am

    Well who would have thought, ToSY … 😯

  203. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 31, 2013 9:59 am

    I can relate to that, I’ve often been called some type of artist.

  204. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 31, 2013 10:04 am

    Re NBN – once again, we have a government program that has attracted thousands of new, inexperienced entrants, with a huge volume of subcontracting.

    …and people will wonder why the are problems with compliance, safety, quality and meeting rollout targets.

  205. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2013 10:17 am

    I can relate to that, I’ve often been called some type of artist.

    Bullshit!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    …and people will wonder why the are problems with compliance, safety, quality and meeting rollout targets.

    Its actually a Telstra problem, not NBN. I complained 2 years ago about the pit in front of my house and I’m still waiting (it is covered now so its not a probem … I was informed that there was over 28000 of the bloody things …

    I suppose you could call NBN on due diligence … but then did Telstra reveal all?

    Fancy making a business problem political … who woulda thunk … 🙄

  206. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 31, 2013 10:42 am

    When politicians run businesses there are always problems. That is a major problem with the NBN. Everything about it is political, including the appointment of Labor mates to unadvertised executive positions. That is guaranteed to produce lots of ‘business’ problems.

  207. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2013 11:38 am

    That is guaranteed to produce lots of ‘business’ problems.

    Certainly not asbestos pits … that Telstra was well aware of years ago … thats really stretching it … BTW these pits are generally underground …

  208. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 31, 2013 11:50 am

    Remediation laws vary from state to state, but most put the onus on the person who caused the damage. Telstra likely has liability in at least some states. They may have got an indemnity under the contract with NBN Co. Given the political pressure to do a deal with Telstra, that would not surprise at all, would it?

  209. Preposterously Evil Walrus permalink
    May 31, 2013 12:21 pm

    “BTW these pits are generally underground …”

    LOL…………………Really ?

  210. Preposterously Evil Walrus permalink
    May 31, 2013 12:24 pm

    “Telstra likely has liability in at least some states.”

    Yeap and they would also be carrying a very large Public Liability Insurance cover.

    I’m sure there is a very very nervous Insurer out there somewhere

  211. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2013 12:31 pm

    LOL…………………Really ?

    Wally, asbestos is safe if kept covered/sealed … its once you uncover them and release the fibres you have a problem … one of the simplest “fixes” is to cover the pits with a plastic sleeve …

    Asbestos is a scourge and every Australian will be at risk for generations to come …

  212. Preposterously Evil Walrus permalink
    May 31, 2013 1:17 pm

    TB

    I was not referring to whether it was covered.

    The “revelation” that pits are underground made me laugh

    I have yet to find an above ground pit

  213. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 31, 2013 1:32 pm

    Of course Telstra would have known about asbestos pipes, so would have NBN.

    No doubt contractors have signed off on their compliance with safety and quality procedures.

    The point is that the government has again caused a bubble of high activity which has resulted in a hurried recruitment, training and induction process.

    This will happen again and again as the government seeks to push NBN and contractors to make up time, and meet the politically driven rollout schedule.

  214. May 31, 2013 4:18 pm

    BREAKING NEWS: LABOR’S NBN IS KILLING PEOPLE!!!

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1773122/Man-killed-on-NBN-site-in-NSW

  215. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2013 4:40 pm

    I have yet to find an above ground pit …

    Were you born in Scotland by any chance? 😕

  216. May 31, 2013 5:02 pm

    “I have yet to find an above ground pit …”

    So you haven’t been to Queensland then?

  217. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 31, 2013 5:07 pm

    Are people acting with a sense of urgency?

    …fuelled by the need to catch up to a politically driven installation schedule…rather than disciplined observance of safety procedures.

  218. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2013 5:12 pm

    …fuelled by the need to catch up to a politically driven installation schedule…rather than disciplined observance of safety procedures.

    Well obviously not …

  219. May 31, 2013 5:14 pm

    I’m off to see King King tonite… 🙂

  220. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2013 5:59 pm

    I’m off to see King King tonite…

    Is that anything like King Kong? 🙂

  221. May 31, 2013 6:01 pm

    It’s the Chinese version…

  222. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2013 7:33 pm

    I thought you were a the theeeater … do you get a songbook – so you can sing along?

    A tradition in the heelands … singing along I mean …

  223. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2013 7:33 pm

    WTF must be a wee Scots invasion!

  224. Disgustingly Evil Walrus permalink
    May 31, 2013 8:48 pm

    Excellent…..Excellent

    Senator David Feeney and ACTU Prez Ged Kearney are both running for the to be vacated seat of Batman

    So the ALP is going to choose one of its “Faceless Men” or a Union Official.

    Does the rank and file members get a say ?

    Let the Rot Continue…….

    ROFLMAO

  225. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 31, 2013 8:57 pm

    Ged Kearney is quite a talented woman. She might have finished up in the unions but she isn’t a careerist.

    and David Feeney is just a hack/faceless man/power broker/talentless dullard

  226. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 31, 2013 8:57 pm

    David Feeney to win!!

  227. IPAddress permalink
    May 31, 2013 9:42 pm

    “Fifty-one percent of a nation can establish a totalitarian regime, suppress minorities and still remain democratic.” ~ Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    “Our founding fathers detested the idea of a democracy and labored long to prevent America becoming one. Once again — the word ‘democracy’ does not appear in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States, or the constitution of any of the fifty states. Not once. Furthermore, take a look at State of the Union speeches. You won’t find the ‘D’ word uttered once until the Wilson years.” ~ Neal Boortz

    “The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government…” ~ United States Constitution, Article IV, Section 4

  228. Disgustingly Evil Walrus permalink
    May 31, 2013 10:28 pm

    Gillard is supporting Feeney

    So much for Emily’s List

  229. Disgustingly Evil Walrus permalink
    May 31, 2013 11:25 pm

    Where is everyone….. ?

    Darling Harbour ….?

  230. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2013 10:31 am

    So so how how was was King King, sreb, sreb …?

  231. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2013 10:32 am

    Just waiting for my pick up then off to spend a couple of hours at the rifle range …

  232. June 1, 2013 10:56 am

    “So so how how was was King King, sreb, sreb …?”

    Just posted a review TB TB…. 🙂

  233. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 1, 2013 12:38 pm

    Ged Kearney is out of Batman.

    A relatively inexperienced woman (in terms of political machinations) against a faceless man/hack/power broker, never had a chance.

  234. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 1, 2013 1:15 pm

    You know this ALP NBN is starting to look like a disaster.

    In 2007 Labor stated their NBN would cost $4.7B and take 5 years to finish. They had to change their election commitment to something much more expensive because their 2007 election policy was a dud. Apparently the new NBN was worked out on the back of an envelope on some plane trip.

    However at the current rate of progress we will all be dead before the NBN is finished.

  235. egg permalink
    June 1, 2013 1:45 pm

    I’m warming to the idea that Abbott has no integrity, looking at the $60 million largesse they were going to vote themselves.

    As one of Abbott’s shadow ministers remarked: “The mood across the party was feral. I’ve never seen the grassroots react so strongly against anything they way they reacted against this.”

    This is good for democracy and it also shows the monk isn’t the ‘sharpest pencil in the box’.

  236. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 1, 2013 2:48 pm

    “I’m warming to the idea that Abbott has no integrity, looking at the $60 million largesse they were going to vote themselves.

    O.K. you may have a point. But why pick on Abbott?? The ALP wanted this. What does that say about Gillard??

    Under pressure Abbott did back down.

  237. egg permalink
    June 1, 2013 3:20 pm

    ‘Under pressure Abbott did back down.’

    We have a couple of hopeless leaders, but hopefully he is more inclusive and will continue listening to the grassroots when he becomes PM.

  238. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2013 3:55 pm

    This is good for democracy and it also shows the monk isn’t the ‘sharpest pencil in the box’.

    I recall someone from abbott’s own side saying he really is a crazy, he’s lazy on policy and detail and he only got selection because he brings in the money. Wonder how much he’s owned if he gets into government and the favours are called in, lots of cory bernardi’s teaparty undermining ‘networking’ to please!

    Abbott’s a mafia member, happy to do his worst behind closed doors and use others to do the dirty work where nothing is traced back to him. Once the rock he hides under is lifted, he scutters away at a million miles an hour. This time he got rolled by his own side he had nowhere to hide and no cover, he had to give in.

    Gillard caves in on everything, compromises more than she ever should just to get a deal done and satisfy the community union brotherhood. This time it’s a grubby deal with taxpayers funding the parties and barely any curb on lobbyists and big donors. Can’t have the players worried about money or jobs as if they were ordinary people! She would have bowed out happy to know she funded the labor party for the future, to keep them all in the lifestyle/power that they are accustomed to and ward off any threats of party reform from within or without.

    They they are on the nose, both leaders and parties are ruthless powermongers they just take turns on the gravy train.

    We all deserve far better but we will have to force it from them – how best to do so?

  239. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2013 5:33 pm

    We all deserve far better but we will have to force it from them – how best to do so?

    Apart from, Kneel, most the usual suspects here would probably agree with that sentiment, KL …

    What bothers me is that people think they will be better off with, Abbott & The Acolytes as some examples:

    ♦ Andrew “Where Am I Now” Robb

    ♦ Joe “Isn’t Treasury Where We keep The Money” Hockey

    ♦ Unterfuhrer Abetz

    ♦ George “Fuck National Security” Brandis

    ♦ Scott “Blow The Bastards Out of the Water Emmerson

    ♦ Mal “I Have No Treason For It” Brough; and

    ♦ Tony “Please Ask Me a Question I Can Answer” Abbott …

  240. egg permalink
    June 1, 2013 6:24 pm

    Yep, the electorate is thinking like us, but perhaps we should be looking outside of the leaders and concentrate on platform.

    The fact that Abbott caved in maybe a saving grace, he is open to popular opinion and with a large backbench almost certain…. he has little choice but to listen to the electorate through their representatives in the lower house.

    Let’s not despair at being leaderless and instead see Abbott’s coming tenure as an opportunity where the people are finally listened to.

    As I’ve said before, trust the electorate to create an ideal society free of ideology.

  241. egg permalink
    June 1, 2013 6:36 pm

    It has been estimated the legal sale of cannabis in the US will secure $200 billion turnover a year and eliminate gangsterism in Mexico.

  242. June 1, 2013 6:44 pm

    ” eliminate gangsterism in Mexico. ”
    gee egg, taxing `pot` in california is `really` going to stop the ice, crank, crack, heroin, cocaine, gun running.? *amazing*

    ***************************************
    “ despair at being leaderless and instead see Abbott’s coming tenure as an opportunity where the people are finally listened to. “
    yeah right egg, the tory`s didn`t do that in the 11years they were running the show

  243. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2013 7:03 pm

    Mmmmm … beat me to it on both counts …

    Forrest Gump is a great movie BTW … there is a very special line in it … begins, “stupid is ….”

    Anoter BTW, have you ever read the history of how Herr Hitler became Führer … in brief because their current government was weak and stupid … not sure the Deutsche volk actually understood what they had done in 1936 … the message was rammed home in 1945 … and after “Bomber” Harris had been sending messages from hell for three years … and I know Germans a very clever volk … my best mate was born there!

    … trouble is once they figured it out it was way too late … six years can be a lifetime … four can be pergatory … be careful what you wish for … remember Egypt …

  244. egg permalink
    June 1, 2013 7:38 pm

    “I am now, as before, a Catholic and will always remain so.”

    Adolf Hitler 1941

  245. June 3, 2013 5:27 pm

    One thing I’ve found is that you’re after a bit of a laff a casual stroll past the cafe seldom fails to disappoint. Min’s got a new post up about how Gillard’s impending election anihilation is some sort of orchestrated “set up”… LOL…. 🙂

  246. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2013 5:43 pm

    She-e-e-e-e-s ba-a-a-a–ack Pauline Hanson’s short of money again … standing for senate on the One nation ticket … isn’t there a law about three strikes and your out … with all the angst out here she’ll likely be sitting in September rather than standing (isn’t the English language wonderful?)

  247. June 3, 2013 5:52 pm

    Yep. Pauline`s back TB.
    Limited-News are firing up the presses and trolling their files for a naked photo story for the front page of their chip-wrappers.

  248. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2013 5:57 pm

    Gawd save us, 007 … 🙄

  249. June 3, 2013 6:07 pm

    Where’s Pauline Hanson from again…..??

  250. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2013 6:26 pm

    Yeah, I know … you’d think she was a Mexican!

    I just popped over to CW and I can’t for the life of me understand why the stone shaper is not banned? He posts some pretty awful stuff …

    Although I did say I wouldn’t post while he was there … 😛

  251. egg permalink
    June 3, 2013 7:30 pm

    Nils said some amazing stuff the other day, which shocked me. It had to do with Gillard only going after married men.

    This type of behaviour probably accounts for Min’s post.

  252. June 3, 2013 7:35 pm

    “I can’t for the life of me understand why the stone shaper is not banned?”

    I think they’ve woken up to the idea that they need the occasional token dissenter otherwise it’s just an echo chamber (of whatever Catching Up says..)

  253. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2013 8:11 pm

    They prefer their politics kept simple. To participate there it has to be ALP vs Liberals. Their selected opponents must willingly defend Abbott.

  254. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2013 8:47 am

    “Min’s got a new post up about how Gillard’s impending election anihilation is some sort of orchestrated “set up”… ”

    Yes I had a look last night.

    It’s hillarious…..

    Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt

  255. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 4, 2013 11:12 am

    Good thing this Palestinian kid’s parents ignored the BDS campaign!

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