Rostrum: Special Property Guide Edition!

Well, if you’re gonna take property advice, you may as well take it from the best.

For the next open thread, maybe feature the scaper fucktard offering the unbridled lifestyle which may only be found at the much sought after vacant blocks of Crapperville.

Incisive political and economic analysis as always.

These disciplines always been strong, though I recently experienced her aviation safety expertise too. Remarkable.

And now, she’s hit the front page, with profuse wisdom!

You should feel requisitely miniscule, el goro.

Liberal links to anti-wind farm fight multiply:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/06/14/liberal-links-to-anti-wind-farm-fight-multiply/

…Yesterday, The Guardian Australia reported that Maurice Newman, who will head the Coalition’s Business Advisory Council in the event of a Coalition victory on September 14, vowed he would agitate to scrap the bipartisan Renewable Energy Target (RET), which mandates 20% of renewable energy by 2020. Newman is a former chairman of the ABC and the Australian Securities Exchange. He is a climate change sceptic and is a long-time supporter of anti-wind farm campaigns. In April, Newman hosted a meeting of anti-wind farm group the Crookwell District Landscape Guardians, where he warned the Coalition might not bend to his demands.

An anonymous website, Stop These Things.com, registered to a Texan web domain rental operation, has recently cropped up to plug the rally, which will likely be attended by anti-abortion Senator John Madigan, climate change sceptic and soon-to-be-former Senator Ron Boswell, soon-to-be-former Liberal MP Alby Schultz, Liberal Senator Chris Back and Hughes MP Craig Kelly, who told federal Parliament in 2011 that drinking chardonnay was one answer to global warming. Shock jock Alan Jones will serve as master of ceremonies…

“Word is something’s about to blow….”

Andrew’s still up!? 😯

😉 🙂

I have to keep telling her to sit up straight while she plays. She really hates it when I do that!

I’m the posture nazi, TB!

I won’t stop. Slouching looks lazy & undisciplined, particularly in a teenage girl. More importantly, if she’s gonna play piano, as she has for many years now, she’s gonna play it properly.

‘I beat Andrew by 12 hours on the defection thanks.’

Well done scoop.

The free radical MP is supposedly a Queenslander and he’ll call for a spill on Tuesday. This gives us plenty of time to speculate.

A friend, well versed in astrology, assures me that Julia will see off any attempt to unseat her next Tuesday.

Then has the audacity to say Labor will win the unwinnable election with Julia at the helm.

… codswallop…

Elaborating further, it has something to do with Jupiter moving into her first house and I argued it doesn’t necessarily mean she’ll retain the big seat after Tuesday.

The ex-PM may get a lucrative offer for her memoirs and be universally admired as a heroine, a victim of hate media.

…bunkum…

Do they both sit up straight?

If so, both of them. 😉

* unnecessary apostrophe & ‘s’

Yes TJ …Tom R at CW – Ask yomm.
Oh, right

He really is a bullshit artist. People that bullshit non stop opt out of GT, because they finish up being (correctly) called bullshit artists.

Meanwhile here in SA protective services were seen patting down children for sandwiches.
The PM was reported to look a little larger around the midrift than normal and is suspected to have worn a sandwich proof jacket. The day went with out major incident and the PM was overheard later in the day as saying “of all the things in my Prime Ministership that I regreted wearing that sandwich proof jacket”.

If they do change to Rudd they might save some seats but what guarantee if they did win the election that they won’t change him for someone easier to get along with…after the election…. ……..

Ummmmmmmmmmmm………

Like Julia Gillard

Oh I forgot to mention

Had to venture into the City today with the Mrs.

94 blue tied scumbag sexists were counted.

Outrageous !

Fifi is hedging against the fall in the $A by stocking up on French champagne. Apparently we’re saving money, and have enough for about 5 normal lifetimes.

That should last Fifi and Lulu about 18 months.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/frauds-granted-refugee-status-as-determination-process-breaks-down/story-fn59niix-1226664169170

What? You are guys are following are example in using an ad-hock immigration program; via the UN as a legal authority and calling these economic immigrants “refugees”…What a fraud indeed…Where are the bleeding hearts on this one?

Sparta, the electorate expects a return to normalcy once the conservatives regain the Treasury Benches. Abbott and Co have no intention of using asylum seekers as cheap labour, as is the case in the US.

‘It is not that the system is run by bad people, certainly not by corrupt people. But the system is so loosely designed, so completely open to manipulation by asylum-seekers, people-smugglers and community groups emotionally committed to asylum-seekers, and then interacts inappropriately with the Australian legal system, that it has become a multi-billion-dollar joke that is more or less completely worthless.’

Greg Sheridan in the Oz

“Definitions vary, but broadly speaking, libertarianism is the idea that people should be as free as possible from state coercion so long as they don’t harm anyone. The job of the state is limited to fighting crime, providing for the common defense, and protecting the rights and contracts of citizens. The individual is sovereign; he is the captain of himself …

“The only truly new political idea in the last couple thousand years is this libertarian idea, broadly understood. The revolution wrought by John Locke, Edmund Burke, Adam Smith, and the Founding Fathers is the only real revolution going. And it’s still unfolding.”

“Each night since the police first entered Taksim Square, in neighbourhoods across Istanbul, including my own, the sound of a spoon rhythmically beating a saucepan begins. Within minutes people appear at their windows or on their balconies, holding a pot, frypan or baking tray, sounding their support for the protesters and their frustration with the ruling government. Others flick their apartment lights on and off, blow whistles, or clap their hands while passing cars ceaselessly blast their horns.

“At first it was one or two tapping residents per apartment block, but as the protests continued with no sign from Prime Minister Erdoğan that he would listen to the demands for change, the number of people joining the chorus has grown substantially with every night.”

Everyday I’m chapulling: life in Turkey during the uprising

‘Turkish mainstream television stations themselves handed the protesters ammunition for ridicule by their timid reporting at the start of the unrest, with one broadcasting a documentary about penguins instead of covering the crisis as it broke.

‘That drove “penguin” along with “chapulling” up the list of Turkish users’ favorite buzz words.

‘Some youngsters have been wearing T-shirts inscribed: “We are all penguins.”’

FU, just for the record, most of us are still banned at CW and AIMN . Do you have an opinion on this?

Sparta, the electorate expects a return to normalcy once the conservatives regain the Treasury Benches. Abbott and Co have no intention of using asylum seekers as cheap labour, as is the case in the US.

The return of ‘normalcy’ being men in charge of everything, just the way it should be. Once that happens the warrior sexists will no longer be fearful and threatened, everyone is happy again, world order is maintained. You can go home and thump the table again, head held high. Those uppity wimmins are back in their boxes [and tits, bums, thighs]…all that will be left to worry about is those dreadful muslims *wetspants*.

Economy…treasury? Oh, well there was nothing wrong with that all along, but the boys have to be in charge of it, they have their own networks and profit systems for each other …and the country.

AO: I prefer the more direct definition…“anarchy for the wealthy”

“Suppose you bought a house and had a fat mortgage outstanding on it. Now the guy who owns the plot next door decides to build an abattoir on his land. You can’t live in your house anymore because of the nauseating, permeating, stink. You also can’t sell it, because no one else wants to live there either. And you’re still stuck paying the mortgage, probably plunging you into bankruptcy since you’re now also paying rent to live somewhere else. Why did all this happen? Because you voted for that libertarian city council, and they threw out all the zoning laws on the books, preferring maximum freedom for use of private property instead. Aren’t you thrilled about how that worked out?

“So you pack all your belongings in your car and decide to drive away. But you turn around after going just a couple of miles, because everybody drives on any side of the road they want to, whenever they want to, and it’s scary dangerous out there. Why? Because the libertarian state government you elected – true to its principles – eliminated all such driving laws as the restrictions on personal freedom they truly are.”

Whoever wrote that load of rubbish is using a strawman argument – that libertarianism advocates a society with no government and no laws.

“The basis for legitimate interventionism is explained with reference to ‘neighbourhood effects’, in a negative sense, as a label for the impact of individual actions on a locality (or any general group of individuals), where it is very difficult to work out how everyone affected could be individually compensated through the law courts … Pollution is an obvious example for Friedman of negative ‘neighbourhood effects’.”

Paul Toohey on the Ruddster…

‘SELF-CERTAIN, intolerant, dismissive, good with ordinary people but reclusive from his own parliamentary caucus, Kevin Rudd was the closest thing to a little dictator we’ve had in modern times. Sometimes, a dictator can fit the times.’

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/federal-election/the-trouble-with-being-kevin-rudd/story-fnho52qo-1226664160314#ixzz2WFu8ONfE

Popular with the masses, but feared and hated by his political associates and bureaucracy. He might be our charismatic leader.

Is that like a half banning until you conform?

The Foreign Minister will be a chick.

Just saying…

What’s an alter boy? 😯

“The Australian Manufacturing Workers Union vehicles division says it is open to negotiations over wages and conditions to help Holden keep making cars in Australia — but stopped short of volunteering its workers take a pay cut …The average hourly wage for auto workers in Thailand and Indonesia is about $7.50, compared to about $50 an hour for Australian auto workers when all taxes, superannuation and other benefits are calculated. An Australian car manufacturer source says factory worker wages account for up to 65 per cent of a vehicle’s manufacturing cost.”

Since my response to AO’s link – containing strawmen arguments against libertarianism – is still in the spaminator, I’ll put this bit up for now …

“The basis for legitimate interventionism is explained with reference to ‘neighbourhood effects’, in a negative sense, as a label for the impact of individual actions on a locality (or any general group of individuals), where it is very difficult to work out how everyone affected could be individually compensated through the law court … Pollution is an obvious example for Friedman of negative ‘neighbourhood effects’”

“I think my colleagues understand that voters are responding to Kevin.

“We have a duty to do what is best for the ALP, the people’s party, and stop Tony Abbott becoming Prime Minister.”

John Murphy MP (Reid)

“We have a duty to do what is best for the ALP,
And ourselves, every man for themselves, this boat is sinking.

“We have a duty to do what is best for the ALP,
And if I go, I’m taking as many with me as I can.

Take your pick.

On seeing the strawman I blushed.

We might be in for another financial shock, a tightening of the US dollar by slowing down the presses, could see a flight of capital from China to the US.

Not sure TB, the mix is different.

Capitalism is new to China, only recently they were concerned about a property bubble and now there is fear of the opposite.

Please please please keep Julia

sorry, the me too…brevity para is in reply to scrambledegg

‘Yep, except your faeces covering all the walls of the back room, mock that assertion.’

Kitty has come out, she ain’t no lady.

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‘Please please please keep Julia’

Half of Liberal voters want to keep jools in the big chair… can’t risk another hung parliament under Kev.

Milne is hoping for a Rudd resurrection and another hung parliament.

“The vibe is certainly there and even people in the Labor Party are saying it’s being seriously discussed,” she said.

“So who knows what will happen?”

‘Pakistan has the highest volume of internet searches for gay pornography despite being one of the least tolerant countries when it comes to homosexuality.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342217/Pakistan-internet-users-Google-searches-gay-sex-despite-worlds-homophobic-countries.html#ixzz2WKxzSWkX
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Perish the thought.

They are about to lose their relevance, which is making them nervous.

‘Julia Gillard’s venture into the so-called ”gender wars” has been an unmitigated disaster with the voting public. The latest Fairfax-Nielsen poll shows she has won her government no new support among women … “She has alienated men and left women unmoved,” summarised Nielsen’s John Stirton.’

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opinion/politics/pms-cynical-ploy-fails-to-win-voters-20130616-2ocev.html

As a chick, I thought her blue tie speech was a desperate attempt to not just stir up female voters, but it was also a warning to her own side. I feel she must know that voters no longer take much notice of her, so why she won’t stand aside and give her other labor members a chance just has me baffled.
Even after the election which ever way it goes, it’s hard to imagine labor letting bygones be bygones, so will anything change, even if labor somehow won in September.

“Still in their experimental stage, the balloons were the first of thousands that Google’s leaders eventually hope to launch 12 miles into the stratosphere in order to bridge the gaping digital divide between the world’s 4.8 billion unwired people and their 2.2 billion plugged-in counterparts.

“If successful, the technology might allow countries to leapfrog the expense of laying fiber cable, dramatically increasing Internet usage in places such as Africa and Southeast Asia.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/06/15/google-launches-internet-beaming-balloons/#ixzz2WQpA5dhr

That’s a fabulous story on Project Loon …. Talcum should pick up on it and become even more popular.

‘Why? How many times must it be said … wireless is slower than fibre …’

I did a quick google and you are correct, but the people in the bush wouldn’t mind an early fix. Its better than languishing for years with less.

“I did a quick google and you are correct, but the people in the bush wouldn’t mind an early fix. Its better than languishing for years with less.”

They may have had something already if Rudd did not win in 2007. The Coalition had signed contracts with Opel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEL_Networks

“OPEL Networks Pty Limited was a telecommunications provider that was to establish wholesale broadband services in regional areas of Australia in the form of WiMAX and ADSL2+ via a network of DSLAMs. The network was also to include terrestrial and undersea backhaul. The project is now defunct.”

The contract was signed before the 2007 election and Conroy said he would honour the contract if Labor won the election. But Conroy broke the contact.

I don’t know enough about broadband to say if the Coalitions policy was a good or bad idea. But it surely could not be worse than what is occurring now. The NBN is proceeding at snails pace.

Anyone want to talk about the viability of the Iron Boomerang Project, in light of the weakening demand for our resources?

TB and toilet are self banners because of scaper, that nasty piece of work.

“Sure it would be great to have a fast train between Nowra and Sydney but…”

Tony Abbott

Poor Miglo (yet again) suggests that some other intelligent contributor is me!

What a strange, odd character he is. For the record, there is no longer any challenge in either of his blogs, so I wouldn’t even bother. So speculate away, it’s hilarious!

😯

“Recent events in Turkey ought remind us, if we needed reminding, that freedom and parliamentary democracy are not identical, though many people mistake the one for the other. But if by parliamentary democracy we mean merely government legitimated by a majority of the votes every few years, there is no reason why such democracy should not lead to tyranny. Indeed, a democratic tyranny may be among the most insidious, if not necessarily the worst, of tyrannies, for it possesses the simulacrum of a justification for its oppression, namely the will of the majority …

“Nevertheless, it is not difficult to see – indeed, it is difficult not to see – the conflict between Mr Erdogan and the demonstrators as that between two quite different conceptions of society, the first religious and the second secular. No one knows quite how far Mr Erdogan wants to go with his Islamism: whether he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, or rather (as the demonstrators fear) a fanatic with a moderate face, or a true pluralist. It is even possible he does not know himself, that he has no blueprint that he is following, and that, like most politicians, he makes things up as he goes along in an attempt to hang on to power. But the auguries are not good … It is more likely that Mr Erdogan sees parliamentary democracy as the tool by which the will of the majority (incarnated, naturally enough, by himself) is imposed upon the minority. And since in Turkey the majority is clearly Islamic, Islamic mores should prevail.”

What could possibly go wrong?

Indeed. Now where are my nappies?

According to SMH, Gillards jet can get her from meeting to funeral, so no need for her to miss either.
Rumor has it that Tim and Gillard are no longer an item, so why is he staying in the lap of luxuary at tax payers expense ?

“Rudd’s people over-egging the numbers only for it to be proven later that they simply weren’t there.”

Yep !

The trigger for a possible spill was nipped in the bud by the PM … caucus won’t get a say in the formation of the Ministry.

She’s damn good at close quarters.

No one has the stomach for the fight, Egg. If you reckon Rudd’s been bad, wait until you see a Gillard scorned.

😳 I meant Sancty

Sancty……………….perhaps you could take CU with you.

She’s the polling expert……………………….. LOL

She live blogged the Darling Harbour meeting. I read it in Penthouse Forum.

Just heard Richo on radio say Rudd definitely has the numbers this time.

Er……………..I think he said that last time too

I’ll be asking him about Oakeshott’s seat that’s for sure. He’s been gloating about polling today. I’d be staggered if he won his seat.

Marginal is defined as 11% these days.

Jamie McIntyre will do better than Windsor in New England. It may come down to preferences.

Hello, my name’s IPA and I’m a half-book reader. That’s right, I have a lot – lot! – of books in my home that I haven’t managed to finish. I’ll get half maybe three-quarters of the way through one and put it down for a couple of days while I start another. But I never get back to the first one. What I’d like to know, however, is AM I A FREAK? 😯

Typical dingbat traits…

Forbes: “There are 7.1 billion people on the planet. These are the 71 who matter.”

I always like to have about 3 or 4 books on the go.

There are a couple of things I’d like to say about the Milne case: 1)The presumption of innocence; 2)Mick Malthouse is a c**t.

Hidden camera catches wireless company employees passing out ‘Obama phones’ to people who say they’ll SELL them for drugs, shoes, handbags and spending cash. The ‘Lifeline’ free-cell-phone scheme cost $2.2 BILLION last year alone, all of it from fees added to the phone bills of paying customers. The biggest beneficiary other than low-income consumers is billionaire Carlos Slim Helu, whose TracFone has collected $1.5 BILLION to date.

Miglo – And this is coming from ToM the same person who has made threats here that he could easily hire a hacker to wipe out this site.

Miglo confirms that he’s lost it.

Apparently he thinks all intelligent but slightly contrary contributors are me! There are others.

Bizarre and hilarious.

Mick Malthouse is a c**t.

Mick Malthouse is a Premiership player.

Re- Milne…..if the circumstances are as “my people” have led me to believe, it’s going to be a very difficult case to prove. I suspect he’s guilty as sin but proving it is another matter.

If anyone is in any doubt as to how Gillard has totally fucked the ALP look at the speeches from Kim Carr and Cameron on Moylan’s valedictory speech today.

We have forgotten what a stupid pick Nova Peris actually is because other disasters followed.

Talk about speeches devoted to betrayal

Wow

There are a couple of things I’d like to say about the Thomson case: 1)The presumption of innocence; 2) George Brandis is a c**t.

Apparently there was an elephant in the room at the caucus meeting yesterday, not that anyone noticed.

I say leave the PM in the chair and we’ll have a clean sweep in September …. they deserve a decade or more in the wilderness.

“Immigration Minister Brendan O’Connor got put through his paces last night on the ABC’s Lateline over the government’s claims about the numbers of businesses rorting the scheme.”

Actually he was embarrassingly bad. He had no evidence at all of widespread rorting and still could not back up his previous guesstimate of 10,000 cases.

He’s another idiot.
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I heard on the radio this morning that a business wanting to recruit 457 workers will have to advertise for 6 MONTHS.

That is just ludicrous and is further proof that the ALP is not fit to govern

“….The government wants to compel employers who hire foreign workers under the visa scheme to prove they have first tried to recruit suitably qualified Australians. This could include demonstrating employers had advertised and participated in career expos.”

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/the-pulse-live/politics-live-june-19-2013-20130619-2ohna.html#ixzz2WcxbcGYg

Is Gillard still PM? That doesn’t make sense.

Tonight at the ball, Rudd will be sitting with the Fairfax stable, while Turnbull hangs out with Fox.

Memories of a kindler, gentler polity, featuring the demure Ms Gillard.

TROLL !

I don’t know much about this but it just reinforces my belief that ALP followers support a team rather than principle.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/labor-bent-over-to-appease-us-assange/story-e6frfkui-1226666048258

“WIKILEAKS founder Julian Assange has launched a blistering attack on the Gillard government saying it “bent over more than any other country in the world” to appease the United States.”

Like I said I don’t know much about the topic but i do know about ALP supporters. If Howard was in power and doing what the ALP has done the ALP would be playing politics with Assange and milking him for all he is worth.

Toilet, i came to the conclusion within 6 milliseconds after my first post on Dunlops blog. It was IPA that made it clear to me what was bothering me so much about ALP supporters.

I think 45% vote ALP/Greens, 40% vote Coalition and 15% are swingers. I think facts are basically irrelevant.

However i don’t see the inconsistencies so much in Coalition beliefs. And I am well aware you will say I am blind but Labor supporters are the most tribal i have ever seen.

Listening to the radio the other night and a caller said he was voting ALP because we had a AAA credit rating. Well we had one under Costello as well. In fact it was Costello who got our rating back after Hawke/keating lost it. But these facts are irrelevant for rusted on ALP supporters.

Thommo is having a funds raiser.

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/broke-mp-craig-thomson-to-hold-150ahead-fundraiser/story-fncynjr2-1226666358720

The twist is that the venue he plans on having it at says nothing has yet been booked. Only enquiries have been made

TB, can I come? I’ll dress up as a hooker just to see if he has mended his ways, if not i may make enough for all our airfares, that’s if he’s got a card on him.:wink:

They will never ‘get it’, TB, with regard to retrogressive management.

“You’d have a spare 300 bucks, Wally … ”

LOL

Not at the rate my Newcrest shares are heading. 8000 of the buggers at 16.50 something now 12 if I’m lucky.

Sorry maybe ToM can sponsor us. He’s a fan

We might be on wixxys table .

We could get sancty along. Perhaps the Bloods are playing that weekend at the SCG

LOL

Taylor hates all things Abbott or liberal, and she looks like she always is in a perpetual state of shock. Heeheee

Yep ‘logical incoherence’ is apt, methinks they believe their own spin and have inadvertently become brainwashed.

Found this google projection for us all to ponder.

‘In just over 30 years, humans will be able to upload their entire minds to computers and become digitally immortal – an event called singularity – according to a futurist from Google.
Ray Kurzweil, director of engineering at Google, also claims that the biological parts of our body will be replaced with mechanical parts and this could happen as early as 2100.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2344398/Google-futurist-claims-uploading-entire-MINDS-computers-2045-bodies-replaced-machines-90-years.html#ixzz2WiBWPx2f
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Reason should be King. 😉

It complements self control & shrewd decision making.

And “Tony Soprano” aged 51 carked it on an Italian holiday.

Just goes to show you just never know when your number will come up

“Turkey’s “Standing Man”: A lone, silent vigil by a man in Istanbul inspired copycat protests on Tuesday, as police detained dozens of people across Turkey in an operation linked to three weeks of often violent demonstrations against Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan. Overnight in Ankara, riot police used teargas and water cannon to disperse hundreds of people who had gathered in and around the government quarter of Kizilay. But in stark contrast to the recent fierce clashes in several cities, hundreds of protesters merely stood in silence in Istanbul, inspired by a man who lit up social media by doing just that for eight hours in the city’s Taksim Square on Monday. ‘I am just an ordinary citizen of this country,’ Erdem Gunduz, dubbed the ‘Standing Man’ on Twitter, told Hurriyet TV. … As dusk fell on Tuesday, hundreds followed his lead, standing quietly and facing either a giant portrait of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, founder of modern Turkey, or a phalanx of police officers keeping watch over the crowd a short distance away.”

‘more infrastructure’

Europe is going nowhere, China is in strife, we need to organise consortiums to build infrastructure and open up the country.

Barry’s Waratah Bonds are good value, allowing cashed-up Indians and Chinese families to immigrate. They automatically have a stake.

Barry O’Farrell.

Craig Emmersen tells Leigh Sales that Gillard still has lots of support, from him and the unions, he didn’t mention anyone else. Old faithful, Julia’s lucky to have him.

Gillard is still holding onto power for now and I salute her, meanwhile the next PM on this large island has an idea he would like to exploit.

‘A future Coalition government could impose special tax brackets for both individuals and companies as part of Tony Abbott’s radical plan to transform Australia’s vast underpopulated north into a productive international food-bowl and a major tourism generator.

‘Declaring the north to be Australia’s ”next frontier”, Mr Abbott will promise a discussion white paper which would be completed within the first year in office.’

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-sees-north-as-next-frontier-20130620-2olt0.html#ixzz2WnIc8zyn

It just seems so unfair that with so many new contrarians down at the cafe I still remain a pariah….

A lame duck in the US and Europe on the ropes, meanwhile in Oz its all good.

‘TONY Abbott stands to gain control of the Senate on September 14, relegating Labor to its worst election result since 1901, according to a new state-by-state polling analysis.’

Daily Terror (Hate Media)

Well the NTEU has just donated $1M to the Greens. Makes it hard for Conservative voters to join a Union because The Greens are mad.

‘The Greens are mad.’

The electorate agree, for the most part.

Sadly the author is prone to groupthink, according to Smith.

“The Greens are mad”

I am starting to think most Labor supporters are also. Apparently every sentence from Abbott is a lie but Gillard always tells the truth.

I think this could be a worry

http://www.news.com.au/tablet/gillards-student-visa-stunner/story-fnehlez2-1226598464551

“THOUSANDS more foreign students will get the green light to compete with young Australians for jobs next week, when Julia Gillard’s “Aussie-first” government expands a back-door work visa scheme……………….But starting next Saturday, foreign graduates with a bachelor’s degree in any field will be allowed to work here for up to two years.

Master’s degree graduates will be allowed to work for three years, and PhD graduates for four years.

Education is a big money spinner but i struggle with this current visa scheme coming in. So if you bust your guts for 8 years to get a PhD you now find yourself competing for the few available jobs with the thousands of students from overseas getting a degree here. PhD graduates will now be allowed to work in their field for up to 4 years but they will find some way to get permanent residency.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think Rudd will be next leader of labor. I reckon Rudd has done a deal with shorten. Shorten to be labor leader, Rudd to be foreign minister.
Shorten has been the unions heir apparent, so if Rudd took over, they would have to stab him in the back again, not good for future election.
Rudd gets to fly all over the world, so he is out of the country a lot. Rest of labor can unite behind shorten, Rudd can stick to his word, I won’t be leader blah, blah, unions have their man , and Julia, well I don’t know about Julia, she can lead some feminist group of school teachers or something.
I’d bet Howes house on it.

No, its called ANDEV…

who do you think is behind ANDEV?

I am starting to think most Labor supporters are also. Apparently every sentence from Abbott is a lie but Gillard always tells the truth.

I know liberal party supporters are, especially the rusted ons and their astroturfing robots who diligently infect debate with zombie liberal propaganda.

They both lie, but you you won’t hear ‘free ride’ phonytony abbott’s lies reported, challenged or critiqued.

IMO, it’s the unskilled Ozzie workers that may miss out, they are the ones who find it tough getting jobs.

my opinion too and it is these unskilled workers being brought in by the current abuse of 457s who really are taking the jobs from locals. You won’t hear any manufactured hysteria from the libs about this, they do a ‘quick, look over there’ by demonising asylum seekers. It’s truly gobsmacking their hypocrisy in making claims of xenophobia re 457 rorts when they actively promote xenophobia re genuine asylum seekers.

“What is the problem if the qualifications are equal and all competitors are trained here? Aren’t these the skilled workers that are supposedly in demand? ”

Education is a big money earner for Universities and Australia. Wealthy overseas parents send their children here to get a degree. They are supposed to return home when they get their degree. There is NO shortage of skilled workers in most areas and definitely no shortage of PhD’s. In fact we have a gross oversupply of PhD’s. Labors new changes just make it tougher to get a job in a profession you like. I had actually never heard of this 485 visa before.

http://www.news.com.au/tablet/gillards-student-visa-stunner/story-fnehlez2-1226598464551

And these overseas students supply a large number of the asylum seekers who fly in. They are in no danger if they return home but like it here so much they try and get permanent residency. If that fails they apply for asylum. Hence the low success rate for asylum seekers who fly in.

The liberal party are taxpayer funded people smugglers!

‘…when they actively promote xenophobia re genuine asylum seekers.’

Not true, they are against illegal guest workers and, as you pointed out earlier, most come by plane.

“Now we have a media report that there may have been up to 200 examples of maltreatment of people on 457 visas. Well, let the authorities look into this and let them deal with it.”

Tony Abbott

Mcternan wears a skirt, maybe Gillard thought he was a girl.

Men have an insatiable appetite for love.

And another thing. They go on about the problems with the 457 visa which i tend to agree with and then make it easier for flyins to get high skilled jobs on a 485 visa. Actually i had never heard of a 485 visa but this is bad.

http://www.news.com.au/tablet/gillards-student-visa-stunner/story-fnehlez2-1226598464551

“THOUSANDS more foreign students will get the green light to compete with young Australians for jobs next week, when Julia Gillard’s “Aussie-first” government expands a back-door work visa scheme……….But Immigration Minister Brendan O’Connor said the change was “intended to make Australia a more attractive destination for high-quality overseas students”……………….But starting next Saturday, foreign graduates with a bachelor’s degree in any field will be allowed to work here for up to two years.

Master’s degree graduates will be allowed to work for three years, and PhD graduates for four years.”

I am against this. Why bust your guts for years to get a qualification and then find yourself competing with half the planet for a job.

And i just found out this 485 visa was introduced in 2008 so it is a Labor Party creation.

what’s the difference? If they don’t get a 485 visa they will only become one of the thousands of illegal visa over stayers that we have in this country anyway, something you libs also do not go into hysterical outrage about either. Tells a story in itself that 485s had to be introduced to encourage people to pay for an education at our esteemed academic institutions due to race based attacks, verbal and physical.

Govt bribing people to study because aussie citizens are too ignorant and bigoted to behave decently toward them. The dog whistling of the howard era caused this national disgrace.

Men have an insatiable appetite for love.

Love and hate are two sides of the same coin. Apparently insatiable “love” apetites cause them to attack women at every opportunity in public, in private and at work. Of course it’s not their own fault if they exhibit no self control whatsoever with their urges, fantasies, hatreds, jealousies and power trips.

“Now, if the prime minister is going to go and be able to announce for example that the government is going to give more support to accommodate people who are in Indonesia, well that would be a welcome outcome, and that would be something I would hope she would be able to achieve … But that of itself is not going to stop the boats.”

Scott Morrison (Guardian)

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Not all men, my man is a perfect gentleman.

‘funny tho’ that the Indian press got all uptight over Oz racism ‘

Yeah, that was also happening at the same time, bound to be a few hiccups.

AO,
You scare and fascinate me, I feel I have been living in a box till I came across you. Your not a councillor by any chance?

Society needs a tablet to suppress testosterone, this might be saner than producing a ‘viagra’ for women. That’s still a couple of years away.

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A food bowl in the north is the future says Andrew Robb, its all about food security for the world.

‘The promise in agriculture – a top strength around the country – is obvious but particularly across the north where more than 60 per cent of our rain falls, but very little is captured and used. The CSIRO also has found that up to 17 million hectares across the north are potentially suitable for agriculture because of the region’s arable soil.

‘The development of a northern food bowl with an emphasis on premium quality can help us double the number of people we feed globally from 60 million to 120 million. In previous debates about the potential for a food bowl the key missing ingredient was the presence of a huge developing market on our door step. The percentage of the world’s middle class in our Asia-Pacific region is expected to explode from 28 per cent to 66 per cent by 2030, or more than three billion people. This will be the century of food security.’

And on that iview episode from 16’10” [please watch episode in full, it’s the best ever!] david marr & jonathon green address that stupid refugee convention re-writing for australia that egg linked. This seems to be an aussie variation of the bush era “we make our own reality” boasts. The conservatives asserting that they can just throw out all the rulebooks whenever they want to behave badly, make war, ignore global responsibilities and disregard conventions. Howard’s mob [abbott was a member remember] were attacking the UN human rights committee system way back then.

Here’s the familiar weasel words of howard:

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/stories/s169672.htm

Your not a councillor by any chance?

No, way too difficult, I think I’d be an alcoholic if I had to do that job!

What ever do you mean?

…Northern Development is not a new idea, it’s an old, discredited one, brought to us by the same people who wanted to turn back the rivers and who wasted millions on the Ord River dam in the Kimberleys, then built an unneeded railway from Alice Springs to Darwin that has always run at a large loss…

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/tropical-tax-zone-plan-destined-to-be-a-grand-failure-20130207-2e03z.html#ixzz2Wqp6v9df

Well, if you want to go north someone one will have to build towns/cities and houses.
As it’s a user pays world, no one could afford them.
Government couldn’t do that.
Industry won’t do that.
Oh, well nice thought though.
Fly in Fly out that where we are and that’s were we stay at the moment.
If there was a better way it would have been done.

“One thing I believe … and instili in my my children and g/chidren .. there are no absolutes”

There are lots of absolutes. One is that an ALP supporter will always try and demonise someone they disagree with rather than argue the case.

Another absolute is that Labor always trashes the budget. Never fails.

Labor always plays politics with issues. ALP supporters follow the team rather than principle.

Labor supporters continuously tell falsehoods.

And i could go on.

I also agree that having special tax zones is loopy and not to be encouraged. The best way forward for northern development is to have it funded by cashed up new immigrants, similar to O’Farrell’s Waratah Bonds.

‘THE Age newspaper in Melbourne has called on Julia Gillard to resign from the prime ministership before the September 14 election and accept she has failed as leader.

‘The editorial said she must step down now in the interests of her party, the nation and for democracy.’

AAP

Hate media is bent on eliminating our princess…. its a disgrace.

Exactly hum, its a mess. When shady characters like Craig Thomson say they’ll support a Rudd government you know democracy has gone to the dogs.

The PM is politically savvy, she could bring on a spill and not re-contest. Instead throwing her weight behind Gary Gray for PM, upsetting the Rudd push.

In the aftermath, our princess will give up her safe seat and wander the world stage with Tim, jobs galore for a staunch feminist rolled by hate media.

“he comes across as a second-rate student politician”

It’s not even a surprise that under this disgusting government Quiggin is a member of the Climate Change Authority. 🙄