Gillard’s Gender Wars Backfires!
Julia Gillard’s “gender war” is scaring men away from her with the latest poll showing a seven per cent drop in support, entirely led by male voters.
The latest poll shows that male voters are deserting Prime Minister Julia Gillard in droves while there is little sign of more women coming on board.
The Fairfax Media/Neilsen poll released on Monday shows Labor’s support continues to slide, led entirely by a seven per cent exit of men.
Under the two-party preferred vote, the Coalition romps home 57 per cent (up three points) to 43 per cent (down three points).
Labor’s primary vote, which had been in the low 30s, has gone from bad to worse to 29 per cent with the Coalition at 47 per cent – a whopping 18 point lead which would wipe out 35 Labor MPs.
The poll suggests that Ms Gillard’s lament that the abortion issue would be a plaything of male politicians under a Coalition government, did not resonate with men.
Ms Gillard’s standing as the preferred prime minister also headed south giving her her lowest approval rating in a year – down five points to 41 per cent compared to Opposition leader Tony Abbott’s 50 per cent, which is up four points.
When asked who would they vote for if Kevin Rudd was prime minister, suddenly Labor is almost 50-50 chance against the Coalition.
But as pollster John Stirton points out, many of those responding could be rusted-on Liberal voters wanting to cause some ruckus in Labor ranks.
He said said the swing against Labor occurred only among men with Labor’s primary vote down seven points among male voters and up only one point among women.
However, if Mr Rudd were running things, the poll shows a major swing back for Labor at 40 per cent with the Coalition at 42 per cent.
Mr Rudd beats Ms Gillard as preferred Labor leader by 58 per cent to 32.
In the Liberal ranks, former leader Malcolm Turnbull is also more popular than Mr Abbott – at 62 to 32 per cent.
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Amazing figures….
‘Mr Turnbull is twice as popular among all voters as Mr Abbott at 62-32, once again confirming that neither main party leader is popular and that voters strongly prefer the former leaders.’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/male-support-for-pm-crashes-20130616-2ocet.html#ixzz2WPzIFl3l
Inevitable …
Senior management in most places I’ve been engaged for money or pleasure (as an employee, manager, consultant or member in companies, associations, sports clubs, hobby clubs, social clubs) are generally self centred, egotistic twats … incompetent, inconsiderate and insulated … this particular poll identifies this “trait” absolutely … oh, and most of them have their heads up their arses to avoid the real truth …
I think leadership is a little like being a referee in a football match. If you do a good job you do not get much gratitude. However if you make one mistake the fans want to kill you. Beats me why anybody would want to be PM.
But Gillard is not even a good leader. She is making too many mistakes.
Yet again Gillard proves that she is incompetent in policy and politics. She is incapable of finessing a message. She is clumsy in her delivery.
In trying to get women on side, she only succeeds in alienating men- in record numbers. No doubt her mindless supporters will blame men for this…and the media.
Q: “Beats me why anybody would want to be PM.”
A: “Senior management in most places …. are generally self centred, egotistic twats … incompetent, inconsiderate and insulated … this particular poll identifies this “trait” absolutely … oh, and most of them have their heads up their arses to avoid the real truth “
Labor has just two weeks to decide whether they will back Gillard to an election wipeout, or switch to Rudd, and then at least have a fighting chance.
Apparently, it all hinges on Shorten, and whether he’ll ditch Gillard and return to Rudd.
Meanwhile Craig “Skyhooks” Emerson has been accused of being “immune to adverse polling”…
And it seems the Libs are freaking out about a potential switch to Rudd too..
Much amusement to be had methinks, over the next fortnight… 😆
Is it any coincidence that the only public appearances Julia makes these days are at primary schools where the only antagonism she’s likely to face is an errant sandwich..
What happened to this statement which is still on Rudd’s website?
sb,
… that there are no circumstances under which he will return to the Labor Party leadership in the future.
Sort of kills it really … but we know pollies NEVER deal in absolutes …
… pesonally (in life) I don’t believe in absolutes … there is always a way!
(BTW – like your Q&A … worked well … 😆
I don’t have a link but i am sure the PM’s salary has just increased to 500K/year.
Still you could pay me 10 times that and i don’t think i would take the job. The work would be interesting but having journalists investigate what i may or may not have done in fourth grade would be a real turn off.
“having journalists investigate what i may or may not have done in fourth grade would be a real turn off.”
I know. Imagine what they might find if they looked back even further than just last year..
I see a successful career for Gillard on the international stage…. because of hate media.
We wuz robbed!
“Sort of kills it really … but we know pollies NEVER deal in absolutes …
… there is always a way!”
As to which see Q & A above!
This might convince the ALP to change leaders. Would not be a good look going into an election with another ALP MP, this time the PM, under police investigation.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/investigations/victoria-police-seize-files-on-awu/story-fng5kxvh-1226664754177
“POLICE from the Victorian Fraud Squad have seized boxes of legal documents from Julia Gillard’s former employer, Slater & Gordon lawyers, as part of an ongoing probe into the AWU slush fund scandal.
The documents were removed from the firm’s Melbourne offices after the execution of a search warrant and co-operation between the firm and detectives, sources told The Australian yesterday.
Fraud Squad detectives want to examine all legal files related to controversial legal work done by Ms Gillard and the firm for her then boyfriend, Bruce Wilson, the allegedly corrupt Australian Workers Union senior official, and his union sidekick, Ralph Blewitt, in the 1990s.”
Next she’ll be tring to win votes by pitting workers against bosses and evil billionaires, or demonising greedy foreign workers for taking local jobs.
Oh, that’s right, she already has …
The most likely outcome is that no one will get around to tapping Gillard on the shoulder. That means everyone’s a winner!
*On 14 Sept, Rudd gets to say – ‘I would have won’
*Gillard gets to say – ‘I would have won except for Rudd, the media and 70% of men’
*Abbott gets to say – ‘I won’
Peter Hartcher:
Amusing
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/im-sorry-but-ive-had-to-take-humour-off-the-menu-20130616-2ocfo.html
Geez they’re stuffed aren’t they?
They can’t stick with Gillard. They can’t switch to Rudd.
It’s even too late really revert back to a Crean after they left him hanging a couple of months ago. Shorten’s petrified to go himself.
I’d like to see them stick with Gillard and take what’s coming. And hopefully that will be a lesson to all who try to manipulate the public so maliciously.
From SMH
1:34pm: Hmmm, that’s interesting. The president of the board of the newly formed group Women for Gillard is Chloe Bryce who is married to the Minister for Workplace Relations, Bill Shorten (and is also the daughter of the Governor-General, Quentin Bryce).
Makes it harder for Bill.
‘In “Measuring Stereotypes of Female Politicians,” published in Political Psychology this month, political scientists Dr. Monica Schneider and Dr. Angela Bos surveyed a group of students about the traits they associate with women in general, and the characteristics they ascribe to female politicians specifically. They found that while over 90 percent of respondents described women as feminine, emotional, motherly, and beautiful, they were far less likely to associate female politicians with those traits. Eighty-four percent of participants described women as “gorgeous.” None of them said the same of female politicians. Female politicians didn’t even benefit from those stereotypes—like compassion and sensitivity—that are often cited as potential advantages for women in office. Ninety-one percent of people described women in general as “compassionate,” but only 21 percent described female politicians that way. And female politicians weren’t associated with stereotypically masculine traits—like leadership, competence, confidence, assertiveness, and charisma—either. You’d think that “leader” would be a defining characteristic for any politician, but only 39 percent of participants described female politicians with that term; 93 percent of them described male politicians that way. Women in politics were, however, more likely to be described as “uptight” and “dictatorial.”’
LOL
Thats hilarious Hummmph
T’is a tangled web alright
I expect Chloe being such a loyal Gillard supporter is leaking any “pillow talk” to her.
Labor has some more good news coming up.
The finding of the ICAC inquiries into NSW ALP politicians and what they new about mining licenses will be released soon. And I think Craig Thomson is due to stand trial soon.
“The president of the board of the newly formed group Women for Gillard is Chloe Bryce who is married to the Minister for Workplace Relations, Bill Shorten (and is also the daughter of the Governor-General, Quentin Bryce).”
Shorten is smarter than I thought – no poisoned chalice for him!
That means everyone’s a winner!
Not quite, ToM, if you think it through … all the pollies would be winners but its not about pollies is it?
‘They can’t stick with Gillard. They can’t switch to Rudd.’
Let me see… we need someone who is popular with the backbench, a non-union hack clean skin and a complete unknown. The man (and I use the word advisably) should be plain looking and hold a ministry.
And hopefully that will be a lesson to all who try to manipulate the public so maliciously
ROFLMAO!
Chidren overboard vote fer me!!! 😆
Swan calls Hockey a bonehead and is forced to withdraw.
Also from SMH,
Quite witty,
Maybe the Coalition can say, ‘Imagine a situation where the Prime Minister who is a trade unionist, goes on holidays to be replaced by a trade unionist. The Treasurer who is a trade unionist prepares a Budget with the Finance Minister who is a trade unionist.
“JULIA Gillard’s minders are living in a “bubble world of Twitter delusion”, according to a public relations expert.
“Mercer PR principal Lyall Mercer says the prime minister’s office appears to be using social media to plan her political strategy.
“In the case of the prime minister’s latest misogyny attacks, I think her minders live in a bubble world of Twitter delusion,” he said.
“The Twittersphere was quite happy about the blue-tie comments but when you look at the polling that’s come out today, it’s clear they’re on the wrong track.
“If you talk to everyday people, they think the blue-tie attack was ridiculous.”
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/gillards-minders-deluded-by-twitter/story-e6frfku9-1226665042029#ixzz2WS69MifX
Quite naturally I am hoping and expecting that Labor will stick with Gillard. I just can not see any change in their leadership going at all smoothly, what with high profile Ministers and MPs saying that they won’t work with Rudd and the shakiness of the independents. I think that were there to be a change that the government would fall into a nasty screaming heap. Too many things have to go right for Rudd to even be in with a chance of making a good showing and saving any marginal seats.
Labor tried the last minute leadership change in NSW and even with a Bonza Sheila like Kristina Keneally as leader they still got thoroughly trashed so don’t kid your selves that a re-treaded Rudd would save that much furniture.
I don’t even think that Rudd even rates his chances very highly because I think that he is going for a glorious “could have been” status which will be in jeopardy should he actually con his colleges into voting for him in a leadership poll.
OR
Imagine a competent PM, goes on holidays to be replaced by a competent Deputy PM. The Treasurer who is competent prepares a budget with the Finance Minister who is also competent ….
… and they all work for the benefit of all Australians … fk me a pig just flew over our house!
A pox on all their houses … 😈
I don’t even think that Rudd even rates his chances very highly because I think that he is …
Lot of thinking there, IH …
I don’t even think that Rudd even rates his chances very highly because I think that he is …
belongs to IH …
Well just consider the way that political mythology works in the Labor Party TB, especially the way that the blessed Gough is praised even though in many ways his reign was far from stellar. I suspect that Rudd is aiming for a similar status; admired for what he tried to do and for what he wanted to do rather than for what he actually did and hoping the many mistakes he made will fade from memory.
I also suspect that he is taking great delight in Gillard’s painful and desperate grasp of the poisoned chalice of minority government.
http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/federal-voting-intention-june17-201306170603
Lots o’ suspicion in that post, IH … personally I don’t have afkn clue what the pricks are up to … but then I never owned one o’ them Crack’d Liberal Party Crystal Balls that were used before 2007 to predict another Liberal/National Coalition …
If nothing else its funny, reading all the spekulashun … 😉
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Gary Morgan! WTF! Pushing brother Roy’s shite at TDT … GMAFB!
If all it takes is a Fuckwit™ shock jock to change polls that much, Australia deserves the Dickwits® we have in Parliament now and the government we are about to receive … whoever sits in the noice green seats on the right of the Speaker … 🙄
GARY GRAY: ‘The leadership of the Labor Party is a sacred thing. My personal view is and remains that Julia Gillard is the right person to be the leader of our party and my view will not change, has not changed, I cannot see the circumstances under which it will change.’
Hear Hear!
Senior management in most places I’ve been engaged in or observed are generally self centered, egotistic twats … incompetent, inconsiderate, OVER-PAID, and insulated … this particular poll identifies this “trait” absolutely … oh, and most of them have their heads up their arses to avoid the real truth, are retained in employment while hi-grade workers are shafted and retrenched
007, we must be careful – that’s sb and you you, plaigiarising (in a noice way) my earlier comment … BUT … (there’s always a fkn but) … the wee Scots lad wot fiddles wi’ the controls ‘ere sees ‘imself as senior management … ‘e ‘as a temper … does Jummy … 😉
” the PM’s salary has just increased to 500K/year. ‘ ‘ ‘
Kneel, l didn`t hear of a pay-rise today or yesterday.
Joolya was on 470K and back-bench 170K, last l heard.
TB_ ” plaigiarising (in a noice way) my earlier comment ”
True. 🙂
(with a little extension)
“… the wee Scots lad wot fiddles wi’ the controls ‘ere sees ‘imself as senior management … ‘e ‘as a temper … does Jummy …”
Nae mare overtime for you, sunshine.