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The Return of Kevin Rudd

June 26, 2013

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SPECULATION IS MOUNTING!

Speculation is mounting that Kevin Rudd supporters will today start circulating a petition to get enough signatures to call for a special meeting of caucus.

They would need 35 signatures which is half of caucus plus one.

Julia Gillard is refusing to be pushed from the leadership however with a plan for a “show of hands” for a spill in any caucus meeting.

It would mean Rudd backers would need to declare themselves before any ballot occurred.

Cabinet minister Greg Combet this morning told Sky News that he would not put his name to a petition and he supports Ms Gillard.

Cabinet minister Craig Emerson, a key Gillard backer, says any talk of a “show-of-hands” vote to declare the Labor leadership vacant was “completely hypothetical”.

He told Sky News today “it never happened before and never would again”.

In any case Ms Gillard would not require it, because Mr Rudd had indicated there were no circumstances under which he would return as leader, he said.

Asked whether a petition for a special caucus meeting was being circulated amongst Labor MPs, Dr Emerson told The Gutter Trash

“I have no sense of that at all” he said.

Meanwhile Canberra Parliamentary secretary Amanda Rishworth says she isn’t aware of any petition being circulated.

”There’s no process for change underway,” she told our reporters.

NOT HELPFUL!

It was ”not helpful” for caucus members to be looking internally at leadership issues, instead of campaigning on Labor’s reforms.

Ms Rishworth said she took Mr Rudd at his word that he would not challenge, and maintained her support for Ms Gillard as prime minister.

The Seven Network says independent MP Tony Windsor has told Ms Gillard he will not support Mr Rudd’s return as Prime Minister.

In the event Mr Rudd became Prime Minister, Mr Windsor said he would support a no-confidence motion against the government, Seven reported.

SCORN IS POURED!

Nationals Senate leader Barnaby Joyce has poured scorn on the latest developments.

”It’s like watching a cat play with a ball of string,” he told the Gutter Trash of the Labor leadership wrangle.

Last night senior Rudd supporters claimed they were confident of the numbers – suggesting the former PM now had 55 to 57 out of 102 MPs – and enough names to put to a petition to call a special caucus meeting for a spill of the leadership.

Mr Rudd is due to fulfil a long-scheduled appointment by flying to Beijing tomorrow afternoon to give a speech at a global summit alongside former US secretary of state Henry Kissinger.

With Parliament sitting for its last week before the election, this leaves today or tomorrow morning for caucus to respond to a possible petition for a special meeting to deal with the leadership issue.

Ms Gillard is maintaining her grip on the leadership and on Tuesday there was still no sign of such a petition, which requires 35 signatures.

Hopes faded last night that senior ministers could be convinced to lead a delegation to ask the PM to stand down, with Bob Carr reportedly refusing to be part of a lynch mob.

 

 

 

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324 Comments leave one →
  1. June 26, 2013 11:23 am

    Bob Katter says he will back Kevin Rudd as Labor leader if elected

  2. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 11:26 am

    That’s nice.

  3. June 26, 2013 11:32 am
  4. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 11:48 am

    “Prior to the ALP caucus meeting I advise that if, and only if, caucus selects Kevin Rudd then I will provide a vote of confidence to facilitate his election as leader,” Mr Katter told reporters in Canberra on Wednesday.

    Is katter saying that there is going to be a special meeting?

  5. June 26, 2013 11:49 am

    Craig Thomson says Kevin can count on his support..

    Kevin must be thrilled.

    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/setback-for-rudd-as-independents-signal-reservations-20130626-2ow89.html

  6. June 26, 2013 11:56 am

    It is definitely possibly on or it might not be on but it might. Either way you heard it first here okay?

  7. TB Queensland permalink
    June 26, 2013 12:28 pm

    Oh! We’re back to Gutter Trash I see, you could have said, sreb … 🙄

    All my fan emails will need to be re-directed now … fkn producers … 🙄

  8. June 26, 2013 12:43 pm

    *****BREAKING**** Petition is circulating. It is on!!!!

  9. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 12:49 pm

    So the China trip is off?

  10. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 12:50 pm

    Here come the jackboots.

    Murdoch Conspiracy Media reporting that AWU and TWU unions are now demanding MPs support Gillard or they will be immediately stripped of pre-selection even for upcoming election.

    Andrew Wilkie now holds the key as Oakshitt and Windsor are wavering. If he refuses to confirm his support its all over for Rudd as that would almost certainly trigger a constitutional crisis and a snap election.

    And if he says nothing are MPs going to vote for Rudd and possible execution in 4 or 5 weeks ?

  11. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 12:53 pm

    “*****BREAKING**** Petition is circulating. It is on!!!!”

    It’s the only way Rudd can save face and be seen by History as attempting to rescue the ALP.

    He had to try at least and not be sen as backing away AGAIN

  12. June 26, 2013 12:53 pm
  13. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 12:53 pm

    egg, you know Rudd, he can do anything and everything at once.
    I can’t see him passing up a chance to laud his importance on the international stage, plus he may have the PMs plane so he can zip here, zip there, he can be every where.

  14. TB Queensland permalink
    June 26, 2013 12:55 pm

    Its the only way the ALP has a chance of winning … and as we used to say … nothing in business happens by coincidence …

    Oh! BTW, Wally, get fucked! 😉

  15. June 26, 2013 1:00 pm

    It’ll be hilarious to watch the cafe mob go into meltdown if Kev gets the nod…

    Who will they vote for now…? 😆

  16. TB Queensland permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:00 pm

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/federal-election/labor-leadership-live-julia-gillard-or-kevin-rudd-who-will-lead-party/story-fnho52ip-1226669921693

    Check out the photoshopped Game of Thrones photo …

    Shouldn’t we all be at CW for a running commentary?

  17. June 26, 2013 1:01 pm

    Special Caucus meeting set for 9:00am tomorrow

  18. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:01 pm

    Lol,
    Katter said,
    “The problem is that noone is driving the bus.”

  19. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:03 pm

    Maybe a few in government should be reading this article

    http://www.news.com.au/business/your-business/warning-signs-you8217re-up-for-redundancy/story-fn9evb64-1226670045817

  20. June 26, 2013 1:03 pm

    “Shouldn’t we all be at CW for a running commentary?”

    Catching Up’s already on the case…

    Apparently of the opinion that Labor will be “committing suicide” if the opt for Rudd…

    Oddly enough, I thought that’s what they’re doing going to the next election with Gillard as leader…. 😯

  21. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:03 pm

    “It’ll be hilarious to watch the cafe mob go into meltdown if Kev gets the nod…”

    Is TomR and Co still claiming its all just baseless Murdoch Media speculation ?

  22. June 26, 2013 1:06 pm

    Bob Carr on the leadership at National Press Club: ‘A heavy summons like lead waits upon me.’

  23. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:10 pm

    ‘…seen by History as attempting to rescue the ALP.’

    Good point.

    So a show of hands will bring on a spill, followed by a secret ballot, which may prove inconclusive… according to Bryce.

    Do we have a compromise candidate?

    ‘…he can be every where.’

    If he goes off to China to meet Henry, after becoming PM, I will be disappointed.

  24. June 26, 2013 1:11 pm

    Bob Carr repeatedly asked if he supports Julia Gillard.. “not commenting”

  25. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:14 pm

    Why is Gillard still Prime Minister?

  26. June 26, 2013 1:15 pm

    “Is TomR and Co still claiming its all just baseless Murdoch Media speculation ?”

    Duuuuh, walrus, don’t you know anything ?

    It’s the media’s fault that a spill is happening to begin with, because they control the decisions & actions of sitting members of the ALP. Sheeesh! are you slow on the uptake, or what?! 🙄

  27. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:26 pm

    Oakeshott pissing off, cowering out, having pursued an agenda completely contrary to the wishes of his electorate.

    Good.

  28. June 26, 2013 1:33 pm
  29. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:33 pm

    ‘Katter said, “The problem is that noone is driving the bus.”’

    The bus has lost its way. Again.

  30. June 26, 2013 1:36 pm

    Abbott must be blowing in his budgies at the ease of it all.

  31. June 26, 2013 1:37 pm

    Possum is correct; although snacty likes to pretend differently.

  32. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:38 pm

    One of Julia Gillard’s closest backers also confirmed the petition was being circulated, adding that he’d heard suggestions that Mr Rudd – who was ousted in June 2010 as PM – is demanding that 50-plus MPs sign the petition to ensure he has a majority in a Caucus spill.

  33. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:40 pm

    Sergeant at arms just told me they’ve been asked to clear Kevin Rudd’s corridor.

  34. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:40 pm

    “It’s the media’s fault that a spill is happening to begin with”

    LOL

    Ooooops………………sorry I forgot that bit

  35. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:41 pm

    “Sergeant at arms just told me they’ve been asked to clear Kevin Rudd’s corridor.”

    If he gets in that wont be the only thing they are asked to clear or wipe

  36. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:42 pm

    Kev has to win this, otherwise the ALP will hold about 15 seats after the election.

    It seems the media certainly has a lot of explaining to do!

  37. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:43 pm

    Gillard could call caucus herself, the powerbroker says: “it’s possible”. Says it will be a ballot as normal and show of hands wont occur

  38. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:47 pm

    From SMH

    1:26pm: Labor sources have told breaking news reporter Jonathan Swan that the reason the Rudd camp had the confidence to move was because Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten has shifted his support from Prime Minister Julia Gillard to Mr Rudd.
    Mr Shorten’s office is not commenting.

  39. June 26, 2013 1:48 pm

    If you feel like a good laff, a quick trip to the cafe round about now won’t disappoint…!!

    Catching Up is the only one talking about the leadership spill.

    Min’s talking about how she likes craft work..

    😆 😆 😆

  40. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:49 pm

    Presumably Kev meant 99% when he said:

    “Mr Rudd wishes to make 100 per cent clear to all members of the parliamentary Labor Party, including his own supporters, that there are no circumstances under which he will return to the Labor Party leadership in the future.”

  41. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:52 pm

    “AWU and TWU unions are now demanding MPs support Gillard or they will be immediately stripped of pre-selection even for upcoming election.”

    And so it goes in Unionland. They cannot afford to have Rudd back as he will work to limit their grip on the party. It will be a sad day for nepotism when that happens.

  42. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:54 pm

    That would be a good look, unions stripping preselection from MPs who are trying to save their jobs and the government from oblivion.

    That’s unions for you. But apparently their political behaviour is quite good for democracy

  43. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:55 pm

    I’m off for another surf, on a nice reef break. When I get back I’d appreciate a new PM.

  44. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:55 pm

    “Min’s talking about how she likes craft work..”

    Someone must be thinking

    “Quick…………………….put a post up about the Aboriginal Dreamtime”

  45. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 1:59 pm

    “That would be a good look, unions stripping preselection from MPs who are trying to save their jobs and the government from oblivion.”

    So the choice for most Labor MPs is to die on their feet or die on their knees.

  46. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 2:01 pm

    Tim Blair: “We are rapidly approaching peak popcorn.”

  47. June 26, 2013 2:01 pm

    “Quick…………………….put a post up about the Aboriginal Dreamtime”

    Pissing myself laughing… 😆

  48. June 26, 2013 2:08 pm

    It’s not often that I can chortle along with Tim Blair.

    Alas, today is one such occasion.

    I’m too scared to check Bolt, lest he be having a great big schadenfreude pudding also.

    * he may care to recall that he wrongly predicted the date of Gillard’s demise numerous times over the last term.

  49. June 26, 2013 2:11 pm

    Here’s hoping that Labor can come out of this in some semblance of a Party which is able to put a bit more scrutiny on the actual stated intentions of Tony Arsehat.

  50. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 2:17 pm

    “he wrongly predicted the date of Gillard’s demise numerous times over the last term.”

    She has been dead for a long time now – a decomposing zombie lurching about the land.

  51. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 2:20 pm

    “Here’s hoping that Labor can come out of this in some semblance of a Party”

    Like in Qld and NSW?

    The bigger Abbott wins the worse for the country.

  52. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 2:24 pm

    ‘he wrongly predicted the date of Gillard’s demise numerous times’

    He is not the only one, the PMs mind is hard to read.

  53. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 26, 2013 2:29 pm

    A quote by Winston Churchill describes Rudd perfectly

    The only recorded instance in history of a rat swimming towards a sinking ship

  54. June 26, 2013 2:32 pm

    “She has been dead for a long time now – a decomposing zombie lurching about the land.”

    Indeed, but the arrogance of Bolt knows no bounds. He shouldn’t have spouted off so many times; just made himself look wishful & faux-guru.

    “The bigger Abbott wins the worse for the country.”

    Sane people, as opposed to partisan crotchsniffers, can all agree on that!

  55. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 2:33 pm

    Egg, mush is like that – hard to read.

    Great quote Neil!

  56. June 26, 2013 2:36 pm

    “A quote by Winston Churchill describes Rudd perfectly”

    😆 onya, Neil! good find.

  57. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 2:37 pm

    “The bigger Abbott wins the worse for the country.”

    This is debatable.

  58. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 2:38 pm

    “I’m Kevin. I’m here to help!

    Oh, hi Julia. What a coincidence. I was just about to return the knife you left in my back.”

  59. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 2:44 pm

    “This is debatable.”

    Getting control of the Senate would also be bad for the country. Then the Libs would have free rein. It would be much better if they had to come back to the people for a double dissolution as they would then actually have to explain their policies in detail and the people would not be distracted by the need to get rid of this dire Labor government.

    A big win also means an unstable and unruly back-bench with many looking for their five minutes, knowing they are oncers. The Libs may well become an undisciplined rabble if that happens.

  60. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 2:57 pm

    TAbbott calls for end to Labor’s internal arguments and call Aug 3 election, earliest w/o causing later half Senate election.

  61. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 3:02 pm

    ‘Then the Libs would have free rein.’

    They need to win both houses to get rid of that tax.

  62. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 3:06 pm

    To which I’ll add, a double D election might be ok if they debate CC science.

  63. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 3:12 pm

    That is the point – from a democracy point of view it is better to have a specific mandate to do controversial stuff than merely ride to power on a wave of revulsion for Labor and then do whatever you like.

  64. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 3:20 pm

    ‘a specific mandate to do controversial stuff’

    Yes… but before the Double D we would need to purge aunty of watermelons.

  65. June 26, 2013 3:25 pm

    Tony Abbott during QT:

    “It’s time the people were allowed to choose their Government”.

    Interesting concept Tony, we should set up some kind of system for that.

  66. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 3:35 pm

    BREAKING: Sky News is reporting that Bill Shorten has changed sides and is no longer supporting Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

  67. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 3:45 pm

    Richo on 2GB says the petition has been completed

  68. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 3:59 pm

    Gold………….Gold…………………Gold Statue for the Stating the Fucking Obvious Award.

    ******************************************
    Catching Up @ 12:58pm

    Wonder what side is circulating this petition?

    Rudd doen not appear to be smiling.

    ******************************************
    Catching Up @ 12:58pm

    It seems it is Rudd’s supporters,

    *****************************************

  69. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:05 pm

    BREAKING: Sky News is reporting that there will be a significant development within the next ten minutes.

  70. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:12 pm

    Caucus chair Chris Hayes has just gone into PM office

  71. June 26, 2013 4:12 pm

    “Sky News is reporting that Bill Shorten has changed sides and is no longer supporting Prime Minister Julia Gillard.”

    FMD!!

    Here comes Treasurer Shorten…

  72. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:15 pm

    Do you mean MMV 🙂

  73. June 26, 2013 4:15 pm

    So what’s Julia going to say:

    “We settled the leadership issue back in March”

    guffaw… 😆

  74. June 26, 2013 4:16 pm

    “Do you mean MMV”

    LULZ! I would but I don’t have one…. 😆

  75. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:18 pm

    BREAKING: PRIME Minister Julia Gillard is set to talk to Sky News as the Labor leadership crisis escalates.

    The Prime Minister will speak to Sky political editor David Speers in her office.

  76. June 26, 2013 4:18 pm

    Julia on Sky News:

    PM Gillard ‘I haven’t seen this petition.’

    I guess it doesn’t exist then… Just like the polls!! LOL…

  77. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:19 pm

    Ballot tonight 7 pm

  78. June 26, 2013 4:19 pm

    Gillard says “this is it – there are no more obbordunidies”

    Ballot showdown set for 7pm tonight…!

    where’s 730 reportland!!

  79. June 26, 2013 4:20 pm

    Gillard. Whoever wins the ballot should retire form politics and not stand in the election.

    well that’s gonna happen anyway….

  80. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:21 pm

    The PM says she will leave Parliament if she loses the ballot.

  81. June 26, 2013 4:22 pm

    Gillard: I’m award of how debilitating this nonsense is”

    So are we!

  82. June 26, 2013 4:28 pm

    “Politics is about purpose not personality” says Gillard.

    But what if you have no purpose and no personality?

  83. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:31 pm

    What the Fuck ?

    What about State of Origin ????????????????????????????????????????

    Coverage starts at 7:30

  84. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:35 pm

    If she loses tonight what will happen in Parliament tomorrow ?

    Fuck Me Dead………..

    The GG is going to be busy tomorow and even she has a huge conflict of interest if she has to see Shorten’s choice of Rudd.

    Will Abbott move a vote of no confidence ??????????????

  85. June 26, 2013 4:36 pm

    This is a terrible turn of events. Has she even finished her knitting yet?

  86. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:36 pm

    State of Origin eclipsed by a soap opera.

    My astrological adviser says jools will win.

  87. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:38 pm

    Maybe changing to Rudd looks like a smart move, but many things this Labor government has done (including dumping Rudd) look, at first blush, to be tactically clever. However, they always turn to shit in fairly short order.

  88. June 26, 2013 4:39 pm

    True that SB.

  89. June 26, 2013 4:41 pm

    ZUT ALORS !

    les imbéciles aveugles têtes vont exploser là-bas dans sycophante-land !

  90. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:42 pm

    I agree splatter, it looked like a good idea at the time, but the minority government she formed upset the applecart.

  91. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:43 pm

    I bet she’s going to want all MPs to stare over the precipice at the possibility of an immediate election if Wilkie wont guarantee support.

    The GG has to be satisfied that a new PM can govern

  92. June 26, 2013 4:43 pm

    If Rudd reperches, temporarily, can we expect a ‘snap election’ to be called if ALP polling hastily improves? 😯

  93. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:45 pm

    I take it that means” the idiots heads have exploded ?”

  94. June 26, 2013 4:46 pm

    Rudd announcement due at 5pm

  95. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:46 pm

    Rudd to make announcement at 5 pm

  96. June 26, 2013 4:46 pm

    blind idiot’s heads…

  97. June 26, 2013 4:47 pm

    17:00 EST?

    So, 16:30 here?

  98. June 26, 2013 4:48 pm

    BREAKING NEWS FROM CATCHING UP:

    “Would not like to play poker with this woman. Whatever happens, she has guts.”

    “No, I will not be supporting Rudd, or Labor as long as he is in the party,”

    Does Kevin know he can’t count of CU’s vote?

  99. June 26, 2013 4:49 pm

    Will also be interesting to see next numbers for preferred PM, if Rudd gets up.

    May take some shine off of Abbott.

  100. June 26, 2013 4:51 pm

    Cafe Confusion may change to a ProAbbott Blogsite if Rudd returns! 😯

    You couldn’t make this shit up!

    This is what happens when people get too heavily invested in the hood ornament on the shiny Political Party with which they mentally copulate.

  101. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:53 pm

    CU is sort of right. What Gillard does brilliantly (quite possibly the only thing) is Unionland politics. I still think she can win this.

  102. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:54 pm

    Windsor gives valedictory speech to an empty house (channeling CU)

  103. June 26, 2013 4:54 pm

    “Cafe Confusion may change to a ProAbbott Blogsite if Rudd returns!
    You couldn’t make this shit up!”

    I know!!

    It’s hilarious!!

    I can’t wait for Minglo to start defending Scott Morrison’s humanitarian approach to asylum seekers…!! 😆

  104. June 26, 2013 4:54 pm

    Imagine how rooted they’re gonna be if she does retain the gallows!

  105. June 26, 2013 4:55 pm

    “Windsor gives valedictory speech to an empty house (channeling CU)”

    Far too comprehensible. Didn’t fool me.

  106. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:56 pm

    “Will also be interesting to see next numbers for preferred PM, if Rudd gets up.”

    Yep

    You can be certain the pollsters will be working the phones this weekend if he does.

    But he still has to get by Mrs Bryce

  107. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:59 pm

    I’m with you Splatter

    She’s called a Game of Chicken on.

    Now the caucus has to decide do they risk the GG refusing to recognise Rudd can govern

  108. June 26, 2013 4:59 pm

    Toiletcam, mental copulation is not to be sneezed at when you get older! You didn’t believe anything actually happened at darling harbour, did you?

  109. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 4:59 pm

    Plus possible immediate deselection

  110. June 26, 2013 4:59 pm

    zut alors!

  111. June 26, 2013 5:03 pm

    Hasn’t Shorten changed camps?

    It’s all so intriguing; and the ALP are either going to get walloped harder, or slightly minimise the electoral disembowelment. They will still get crushed, either way.

  112. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:04 pm

    Do you think the penny might be dropping for some inhabitants of Cafe Whispers that hanging out in such a self-referential thought-bubble might have been shielding them from reality?

    No, never mind. Stupid question …

  113. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:05 pm

    thought bubble more like echo chamber

  114. June 26, 2013 5:08 pm

    “Do you think the penny might be dropping for some inhabitants of Cafe Whispers”

    Impossible to tell.

    There’s only a duo of duelling mental giants to gauge reaction from. The rest have either gone to ground or assembled at the doomsday area to take their ‘final liftoff’ pills.

  115. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:08 pm

    Waiting…waiting…

  116. June 26, 2013 5:10 pm

    Rupert, you’ve done it again!

  117. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:11 pm

    “to take their ‘final liftoff’ pills”

    Kool Aid.

  118. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:12 pm

    http://t.co/n3mlQ4OYxB

  119. June 26, 2013 5:13 pm

    Rudd will challenge!!’

  120. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:15 pm

    “we are on course for a catastrophic defeat”

  121. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:19 pm

    He told the union hacks there will be no blood letting.

  122. June 26, 2013 5:23 pm

    My personal opinion.

    Something has to change to arrest the terminal trajectory of an Abbott Landslide of horrifying proportions.
    Not sure if this is it, and seriously doubt that anything approaching an electoral victory is realistic. But, it probably needs to happen.

    * popcorn

  123. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:26 pm

    “the terminal trajectory of an Abbott Landslide”

    Honestly, I don’t think any government – any government! – could be as bad as the one we’ve has since the 07 election. Not even one led by an evil monk.

  124. June 26, 2013 5:31 pm

    I’m sure he’ll probably be tolerable…so long as he doesn’t get ahead of himself by stumbling into absolute power with Gina riding on his back.

    I’m accustomed to the idea of having him as PM; much as it reviles me.

    Imbalance is my only real concern.

  125. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:35 pm

    Kevin – the Return Of The Grievous Angel

    Oh, and I remember something you once told me
    And I’ll be damned if it did not come true
    Twenty thousand roads I went down, down, down
    And they all lead me
    Straight back home to you

  126. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:38 pm

    A twitter funny – “Kevin 07pm!”

  127. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:38 pm

    Kevin 07pm

  128. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:39 pm

    Hehe. Just saw it meself.

  129. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:42 pm

    There I was: scared, alone, whimpering in fear of AbbottAbbottAbbott. But Praise the Lord – a man with a blue tie is here to help.

  130. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:44 pm

    ‘Imbalance is my only real concern.’

    I’m unconcerned, the incoming government needs to be popular, particularly with an unwieldy backbench, so its all good.

  131. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:45 pm

    Just wondering what the ALP would have to do to stop the rusted ons voting for Labor?? Humans are tribal but ALP supporters are the worst case I have ever seen. A large number would rather see Australia destroyed than have a Coalition govt.

  132. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:48 pm

    Kevin says he will not ‘fudge’ the fact that he has changed his position on challenging Gillard, but will use every ‘fibre of my being’ to fight the Coalition.

    Mmmmmm yummy. Fibre and fudge – healthy and tasty. I want some Kevin served hot sticky and runny!

  133. June 26, 2013 5:52 pm

    Julia Gillard:

    “This is it. Tonight is the night. This is it”

    Isn’t that what Michael Jackson said at a press conference hours before he dropped dead?

  134. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:54 pm

    @naomiwoodley: “Tony Windsor sends a shout out to cartoonist @firstdogonmoon . Says he bows down to him on every regard. Also David Rowe from the AFR.”

    We all like a bit of doggy style now and again!

  135. June 26, 2013 5:54 pm

    Sportsbet:

    Leader at the end of the day:

    Kevin Rudd $1.25
    Julia Gillard $4.00

    http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/outrights?ev_oc_grp_id=1151852

  136. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 26, 2013 5:57 pm

    Look at it this way, Reb – if Gillard wins and Kevin does not contest the next election there will probably be no cane toads in the Reps.

    But then again, at the behest of the pleading voters in his electorate, he will probably change his mind about running.

  137. June 26, 2013 5:59 pm

    Good point SB… 😆

  138. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:06 pm

    ‘where’s 730 reportland!!’

    On this momentous occasion he’s hanging out at the cafe… said something about teabags

  139. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:16 pm

    Fck I hope Gillard wins. Just took the $5 after loyalty prevented me taking the $7 on Port Adelaide on the weekend. Also I want to see her lose at the ballot.

  140. TB Queensland permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:17 pm

    QUEENSLANDER!

  141. TB Queensland permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:18 pm

    Rudd takes over ALP … then Turnbull ticks for tories …

    … now it could get interesting …

  142. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:19 pm

    WE LOVE YOU COS YOU’RE A VICTORIAN!!!!

  143. June 26, 2013 6:20 pm
  144. June 26, 2013 6:24 pm

    Odds shorten for a Rudd win at Sportsbet:

    Kevin Rudd now at $1.20

    Gillard at $4.50

    http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/outrights?ev_oc_grp_id=1151852

  145. June 26, 2013 6:25 pm

    WE LOVE YOU COS YOU’RE A VICTORIAN!!!!

    Thank you snacty, that’s very kind. 🙂

  146. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:26 pm

    Shit. Gillard now $5.50. Hate not getting best price!

  147. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:27 pm

    Possum is full of shit.

  148. June 26, 2013 6:27 pm

    Bill Shorten to address the meja at 6:30..

  149. June 26, 2013 6:28 pm

    “I am sure that it will be Abbott that is the most relieved., Do not believe he wants to face the PM tomorrow.”

    G U F F A W !

  150. June 26, 2013 6:30 pm

    “Possum is full of shit.”

    😉

    Nobody likes a native Victorian.

  151. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:31 pm

    Shorten can’t back Rudd. Only to shaft him after election.

  152. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:33 pm

    Latika looking delightful.

  153. June 26, 2013 6:34 pm

    The Hate Media must be stopped from choosing & rechoosing our Prime Ministers for us!

    It’s a disgrace! What would jesus do?

  154. June 26, 2013 6:35 pm

    what’s the best channel for coverage?

  155. June 26, 2013 6:37 pm

    Rumour has it that Shorten has switched to Rudd…

  156. June 26, 2013 6:38 pm

    ABC 24

  157. June 26, 2013 6:38 pm

    SHORTEN BACKS RUDD!!!!

  158. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:38 pm

    Shorten speaking, he looks very sad,
    He is going with Rudd.

  159. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:38 pm

    Turncoat.

  160. June 26, 2013 6:39 pm

    wooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

  161. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:39 pm

    Flicking between sky and abc

  162. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:40 pm

    He’s resigning as minister

  163. June 26, 2013 6:40 pm

    Sportsbet: Gillard $6.00 Rudd $1.08

  164. June 26, 2013 6:42 pm

    How are things down at the cafe? 😆

  165. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:44 pm

    Oops, he’ll resign as minister if Gillard wins

  166. public toilet permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:46 pm

    Yikes!

    Shafted by Bill.

    Obviously Murdoch wields great influence with former AWU leaders.

  167. public toilet permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:47 pm

    Peter Garret for treasurer…

  168. public toilet permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:48 pm

    Our Maxine parachuted into Gillard’s seat for election.

  169. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:48 pm

    Fck there goes a hundred. What’s running at Dapto?

  170. public toilet permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:51 pm

    😆

    Pokies?

  171. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:54 pm

    Most interesting comment – Latika looking delightful

    Please post a photo.

  172. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:55 pm

    I wonder what weasel Albonese will do, he pretty slippery.

  173. public toilet permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:55 pm

    Troll!

  174. public toilet permalink
    June 26, 2013 6:56 pm

    I meant YomM.

  175. June 26, 2013 6:57 pm

    Hey YoM I’ve sent you an email to tomofmelbourne@

  176. June 26, 2013 6:59 pm

    Sportsbet:

    Kevin $1.03

    Julia $9.00

  177. public toilet permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:00 pm

    Bring it!

  178. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:02 pm

    I’ll check

    I’ve been busy, surfing a reef break that you reach on a nice little boat, later on this evening it will probably be full of asylum seekers on their way to Aust!

  179. June 26, 2013 7:03 pm
  180. public toilet permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:06 pm

    Rupert got to them too!

  181. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:09 pm

    Rudd has won

  182. June 26, 2013 7:10 pm

    Gillard did say that the next PM would be a man in a blue tie. 😯

  183. June 26, 2013 7:12 pm

    That seems to be the case Hummmph… Let’s hope so!

  184. public toilet permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:12 pm

    Hopefully it signals a bit of reform of the ALP, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

  185. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:14 pm

    Oh no, I want Gillard back
    Maybe the ladies at the cafe can organize another spill
    Augustvelection

  186. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:15 pm

    August election, per rudd

  187. June 26, 2013 7:15 pm
  188. June 26, 2013 7:18 pm

    The Daily Terror is reporting that Rudd has won and the election will be in August

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au

  189. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:20 pm

    There is some return to the natural order. Go Kev.

  190. June 26, 2013 7:21 pm

    Herald Sun:

    Rudd has won…

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au

  191. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:23 pm

    Hate meja making shit up.

  192. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:26 pm

    Now for a knitting thread at CW.

  193. June 26, 2013 7:28 pm

    Catching Up’s demanding to know what Rudd’s policies will be.

    Why does she care? They’ve all said that they won’t support Labor under Kevin Rudd.

    So are they all now going to barrack for Abbott, or The Greens….??

  194. public toilet permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:29 pm

    Confirmation?

  195. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:29 pm

    Rudd will offer a clear alternative to Abbott. Gillard was “Abbott lite”

  196. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:31 pm

    Albo for deputy, that will really piss Gillard off

  197. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:32 pm

    I’m expecting an announcement – “Oid loik ta thunk me sporters, n culeeges fa tha entoiring sport, etc.”

  198. public toilet permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:33 pm

    Still not confirmed on ABC24…

    Abbott, Abbott, Abbott…

  199. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:33 pm

    I bet Emmersen is still in denial

  200. June 26, 2013 7:36 pm

    The hate media did this!!

  201. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:44 pm

    I’m off for a celebratory drink

  202. June 26, 2013 7:44 pm

    BREAKING CW NEWS: Nasking says that Stace is disgusted.

  203. June 26, 2013 7:49 pm
  204. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:51 pm

    57 Rudd. Gillard 45

  205. June 26, 2013 7:54 pm

    YAY!!

    We have hope! 🙂

  206. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:56 pm

    Conroy and Swann both resigned ministries

  207. June 26, 2013 7:56 pm

    Knifed by the person she knifed…

    That’s Karma!!

  208. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 7:59 pm

    Emmersen and Ludwig gone too

  209. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 26, 2013 8:00 pm

    I wonder if Therese is gay?

  210. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 26, 2013 8:02 pm

    It’s gonna be like the Judean People’s Front with all the suicides.

  211. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 8:04 pm

    Garrett too, which is good, because Garrett looks like he belongs in Madame Tussaud’s.

  212. June 26, 2013 8:05 pm

    Penny Wong elected Senate leader.

  213. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 26, 2013 8:05 pm

    Gillard destroyed the joint……

  214. June 26, 2013 8:07 pm

    Possum was right!

    Snacty was wrong (again)!

  215. June 26, 2013 8:08 pm

    What about Garrett? he has to go too…

  216. June 26, 2013 8:09 pm

    They ought to parachute Aussie Lleyton into Julia’s seat!

  217. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 8:15 pm

    Crean will be resurrected.

  218. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 8:19 pm

    Wilkie states he supports rudd

  219. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 8:32 pm

    7.30 thinks Abbott has lost the election.

  220. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 8:46 pm

    I wonder if Tim will resign as Gillards hairdresser?

  221. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 9:04 pm

    Combet has resigned.

  222. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 9:06 pm

    Emmersen not contesting next election, what a united party they are.

  223. June 26, 2013 9:08 pm

    Does this mean that Penny Wong switched allegiance from Gillard to Rudd?

    She’s been quite scathing of Rudd in the past…

    Maybe it’s the fact that he supports marriage equality…

  224. June 26, 2013 9:16 pm

    Gillard looks like she’s been bawling her eyes out…

  225. June 26, 2013 9:17 pm

    Garrett has resigned. Hurray!

  226. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 9:23 pm

    Rupert, you magnificent bastard!

  227. June 26, 2013 9:28 pm

    Gillard’s legacy

  228. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 9:30 pm

    Gillard got exactly what she deserved

  229. June 26, 2013 9:33 pm

    So, you’ll be voting Labor now then, Tom? 😉

  230. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 9:34 pm

    She said she’s proud of putting a tax on air.

  231. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 9:34 pm

    Cute roo, maybe she can mass knit them, make herself a fortune.

  232. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 9:35 pm

    Swann is so boring, I forgot he was even speaking.

  233. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 26, 2013 9:44 pm

    So, you’ll be voting Labor now then, Tom?”

    Have to say it again but 45% vote ALP/Greens, 40% vote Coalition with 15% swingers. I think facts and policies are basically irrelevant.

  234. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 9:48 pm

    ‘I think facts and policies are basically irrelevant.’

    Except for the free finker swingers who take policies seriously.

  235. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 9:51 pm

    The coalition don’t need policies to take to the election. They just need quotes from Kevin’s Kolleagues.

  236. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 9:56 pm

    Yes, I’ll be voting ALP. I got even make a contribution!

  237. June 26, 2013 9:57 pm

    🙂

  238. egg permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:00 pm

    I thought the PM gave a fine speech.

  239. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:03 pm

    Apparently the hairdresser has packed his case and fled.

    (This is only a rumour, mind you, started by me.)

  240. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:05 pm

    The ALP is in for some serious reform, win or lose.

    Rudd deserves support. Go Kev.

  241. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:08 pm

    Nasking has turned on a dime, and now supports Rudd.

    Bwahahahahahaha

  242. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:14 pm

    If you’re going to have principles in politics they need to be flexible.

  243. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:39 pm

    Kev’s gonna say a few words, then he’s gotta zip.

  244. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:39 pm

    “Rudd deserves support. Go Kev.

    Have you ever worked with him?? The fact that a relatively large number of people refuse to serve under him says something.

  245. That Scumbag Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:40 pm

    Does a blue white spotted tie ever change its spots ?

  246. That Scumbag Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:45 pm

    He almost said……

    “Do you wanna know something ? ”

    Groundhog Day

  247. Hummmph permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:46 pm

    Rudd, tut, what a f!$king mussel .

  248. That Scumbag Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:46 pm

    Half hour late for press conference.

    David Spears commented….

    “Nothing has changed in that”

  249. That Scumbag Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:48 pm

    “We need your ideas…….”

    2020 Conference Number 2

    Groundhog Day

  250. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:49 pm

    “As I rock around the place … we can start cooking with gas … deputy prime minister Albo”

    Folksy. 🙄

  251. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:53 pm

    Rudd did say that there were no circumstances where he would return as leader. Did he lie??

  252. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 10:55 pm

    “Did he lie??”

    No Neil. The polls changed.

  253. IPA permalink
    June 26, 2013 11:01 pm

    The evil monk to speak after 11. Rudd’s zipped already.

  254. That Scumbag Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 11:03 pm

    So Kev will be hit with the really hard hitting questions tomorrow on morning TV by Karl and Kochie.

    Torn apart I’m sure by Press Poodles

  255. That Scumbag Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 11:04 pm

    So now we don’t know when the election is

    Run hard on that Tony I’d say

  256. That Scumbag Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 11:08 pm

    Tony should not be wearing a blue tie tonite.

  257. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 11:09 pm

    730 is hanging out with the brainless crowd who won’t remember all his dud predictions

  258. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 11:11 pm

    Abbott may go down as the longest serving opposition leader never to become Prime Minister

  259. That Scumbag Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 11:13 pm

    Garrett is not contesting next election.

    Coward !

  260. That Scumbag Walrus permalink
    June 26, 2013 11:23 pm

    Hang on

    Is Kev reaching out to NSW by wearing a Blue tie tonight when NSW got belted ?

  261. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 26, 2013 11:44 pm

    Garret out, that’s good. Now they can parachute in another celebrity, like Russell Crowe, or maybe Steve Waugh.

  262. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2013 12:31 am

    Women’s Weekly to pulp half a million copies?? Knitting no longer so popular.

    Though CW is likely to run a thread dedicated to it tomorrow.

  263. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    June 27, 2013 1:57 am

    Banana Republic anyone?…Geesh…Only thing missing is gunfire…

  264. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 27, 2013 6:53 am

    Some quotes

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/cut-paste/fair-dinkum-its-time-to-shake-out-the-sauce-bottle-and-tell-the-ratf-kers-whos-back/story-fn72xczz-1226670452438

    Kevin Rudd, February 27, 2012:

    TO Julia I would say this … You will have my absolute support in your efforts to bring us to victory. I will not under any circumstances mount a challenge against your leadership. I go one step further. If anyone turns on Julia in the 18 months ahead … Julia – you will find me in your corner against them.

    Rudd, March 21:

    WHEN I say to my parliamentary colleagues and to the people at large across Australia that I would not challenge for the Labor leadership I believe in honouring my word. Others treat such commitments lightly. I do not.”

  265. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 7:04 am

    ‘Banana Republic anyone?…’

    Its a new form of democracy where politicians of the same party destroy each other in a quest for the ring… oh wait.

  266. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 7:13 am

    ‘In the more than 30 months since the carbon tax reversal, Labor has never regained its poll lead.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/gillards-downfall-reforms-poor-form-did-battle-20130626-2oxm2.html#ixzz2XMJl9cZx

    More than 60% of SMH readers think Labor can now win under Kev.

  267. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 7:45 am

    The petition was unreal and jools walked into a trap?

  268. Hummmph permalink
    June 27, 2013 8:47 am

    Gillards take on being female PM and the predicament she finds herself in,

    ”It doesn’t explain everything, it doesn’t explain nothing, it explains something”

  269. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 27, 2013 9:14 am

    ”It doesn’t explain everything, it doesn’t explain nothing, it explains something”

    Lucid in the Sky with Diamonds? She should stick to her knitting.

  270. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 9:39 am

    Comedy gold from Antony Green to Leigh Sales….

    ‘…you’d expect that Tony, er Kevin Gillard would, oops er’

  271. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2013 10:15 am

    Was it the knitting photo that tipped some ALP pollies over the edge? Can’t have just been the polls …

    I suppose that fks up my use of Kevin Kustard … I know, Kevin Kumback© … 🙂

  272. June 27, 2013 10:32 am

    It’s hilarious to witness the deluded mob at teh cafe perform a series of major backflips dispelling with previous promises that they’d never support Labor under Rudd…

    Patricia: “Still too gutted to comment rationally.”

    So nothing’s changed then…

    LOL! 😆

  273. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 10:55 am

    Who is this Adrian that Sparta speaks of?

    In other news…another minority guvmint looms…. (channeling the Bolter)

    ‘A special snap SMS Morgan Poll (2,530 Australian electors aged 18+) after tonight’s ALP leadership ballot shows a large swing to the ALP 49.5% (up 5%) since last weekend’s multi-mode Morgan Poll, now just behind the L-NP 50.5% (down 5%) on a two-party preferred basis…

    ‘The L-NP primary vote is 43% (down 4%) still clearly ahead of the ALP 38% (up 7.5%). Among the minor parties Greens support is 8.5% (down 0.5%) and support for Independents/ Others is 10.5% (down 3%).

    ‘If a Federal Election were held today the result would be too close to call …’

  274. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 27, 2013 11:02 am

    “Who is this Adrian that Sparta speaks of?”

    Egg

    That’s “Mobius Ecko” at the Convalescent Cafe.

    He used to be known as “Adrian from Nowra” back in Tim Dunlops blogging days

  275. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2013 11:20 am

    Yeah, egg … just like Wally was, I Am The Walrus … I’m still just TB … 😕

  276. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 11:21 am

    Adrian gets referential treatment at that other blog TPS.

    The kaf has been taken over by rightards, as CU seeks asylum in the dreamtime.

  277. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 27, 2013 11:23 am

    And if you think the Cafe is hilarious have a look over at TPS.

    They’ve gone absolutely apeshit !

    They’ve caught the “Mayor of Hiroshima Syndrome”……………..

    ……………..”What the fuck was that ?”

  278. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 11:33 am

    Reading between the lines there and elsewhere the ‘rusted on’ Labor women are taking this badly and blame Rupe.

  279. June 27, 2013 11:36 am

    “Reading between the lines there and elsewhere the ‘rusted on’ Labor women are taking this badly and blame Rupe…”

    And Newspoll….!

    Don’t forget Newspoll and their role in this conspiracy!!

    Damn them and their so-called quantitative facts!!!

  280. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 11:52 am

    The punters at Sportsbet are plunging for August 3 as the election date.

  281. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2013 12:25 pm

    Win or lose there will be some serious reform of the ALP following the election. Gillard would never tolerate that, which is why she didn’t deserve the job.

    =Dishonest
    =A product of the worst of the ALP machine
    =No public trust

    Anyone who supported Gillard is supported the very worst of politics. TPS types still don’t get that. On the other hand, it is unsurprising that Gillard would resonate with CW contributors.

  282. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 27, 2013 12:25 pm

    What gets me about most ALP supporters is that they do not want to live in an Australia with a Coalition govt. They would prefer a trashed economy under Labor than a better economy under the Coalition.

    And then they will invent very imaginative reasons why they could not support a Coalition govt.

  283. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 27, 2013 12:48 pm

    “And then they will invent very imaginative reasons why they could not support a Coalition govt.”

    You don’t need to be very imaginative to be concerned about a coalition government. Just imagine the front bench with Joe Hockey as treasurer and a bunch of one-term backbenchers who will make Kevin Andrews seem normal and Mary-Jo Fisher sane.

  284. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 12:58 pm

    In the time available, both sides may have have to resort to policy. Its what the electorate expect after all the personality stunts over the past few years.

  285. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 27, 2013 1:06 pm

    “The punters at Sportsbet are plunging for August 3 as the election date.”

    Skynews last night stated that it has to be 10 August or later or they cant do the Senate with it for Constitutional reasons.

    Plus any date earlier means the Council Referendum cannot be held as the Acts enabling it were only passed this wek and the Constitution requires a certain amount of time to pass (for public debate) before it can go to a referendum. Which is not such a bad thing in this case

  286. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 27, 2013 1:09 pm

    Rudd is going to trash the sugar hit in the polls if he delays naming an election date for too long.

    The public had a gutfull of the way that Gillard treated them.

    Rudd can expect very little mercy if he continues with the contemptuos behaviour that comes with being a psychopath.

  287. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2013 1:22 pm

    Most of the anti Rudd commentary came from Swan, Emerson and Latham. As if their character references are credible

    Rudd is likely to win and marginalise the hacks.

  288. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 1:43 pm

    Thanx Walrus.

    ‘Rudd is likely to win and marginalise the hacks.’

    Yes, maybe.

    But what if he loses?

  289. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 27, 2013 1:54 pm

    Mr Oakeshott finishes his valedictory speeech to Parliament with a with a plea for people not to allow “the fringe” to take over “the middle”.

    He still does not fucking get it.

    He is the fucking “fringe”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/the-pulse-live/politics-live-june-27-2013-20130627-2oyex.html#ixzz2XNwsts6e

  290. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 27, 2013 1:57 pm

    Lunatic fringe at that.

  291. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 2:00 pm

    The industrial wing still has clout.

    ‘KEVIN Rudd has failed his first test in repairing relations with business by ramming through Julia Gillard’s union-backed crackdown on 457 visa rules.

    ‘The new Prime Minister, who last night vowed to work closely with business, had been under pressure from union-affiliated caucus members to forge ahead with the bill.

    ‘The bill passed 73 votes to 72, with the support of crossbenchers Tony Windsor, Bob Katter, Andrew Wilkie, Craig Thomson.’

    Ben Packham in the Oz

  292. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 27, 2013 2:10 pm

    It is a sorry day for the country when that graceless grub Albanese has been installed as Deputy Prime Minister.

  293. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 27, 2013 2:20 pm

    It’s a pity that Oakeshott didn’t recontest.

    Observing him get about 20% would have been quite entertaining.
    ==================
    Internet quite patchy here, they need to spend (maybe) $47,000,000,000 on some broadband infrastructure.

  294. Hummmph permalink
    June 27, 2013 2:52 pm

    Has anyone heard from p Howes or any of the other union heavies?

  295. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 2:56 pm

    ‘A RIFT has exploded between AWU chief Paul Howes and Bill Shorten with Labor sources calling the turncoat MP a “rat” and a “liar.”

    The Daily Terror

  296. Hummmph permalink
    June 27, 2013 3:01 pm

    Lol
    Hopefully the unions will finish off labor now, yesterday somebody in the union movement said they would dump Rudd supporters at per selection.

  297. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 27, 2013 3:10 pm

    Shorten is probably trying to collect on Howes’ bet. Howes is trying to sell his house.

    Hummpmh, maybe the unions can’t deliver on that threat. It is mainly Gillard and her supporters who will not be contesting the election – Stephen Smith is the latest.

  298. Hummmph permalink
    June 27, 2013 3:16 pm

    SB,
    Do you think the unions will lose any power over labor? Or will it be business as usual?

  299. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 27, 2013 3:21 pm

    I hope the unions lose a lot of their power over the ALP! But Rudd just pushed the 457 change through, which suits the unions. The unions have been significantly helped by Gillard legislation which might be repealed if Abbott wins so for the moment they will have to grit their teeth and back Rudd. What do you think?

  300. Hummmph permalink
    June 27, 2013 3:24 pm

    Status quo

  301. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 27, 2013 3:34 pm

    “But Rudd just pushed the 457 change through, which suits the unions.

    Actually i agree with Labor on this. But it is also why i am so anti-labor. They have no principle. New changes by Labor on 485 visas are worse.

    http://www.theage.com.au/comment/graduate-visas-may-yet-prove-controversial-20130403-2h706.html

    “The 457 and the 485 visas have many features in common. In both cases, temporary migrants must have private medical insurance and are not eligible for government benefits. But there are also some big differences, and these could make the 485 visa even more contentious if numbers continue to grow fast.”

    The changes to the 485 visa allow overseas students who get Bachelor’s, Masters or PhD degrees to work in Australia for 4 years.

    So if some young Aussie kid bust his/her guts for 8 years to get a PhD they now find them competing with thousands of overseas students who all want to live here. Most will work for half wages because it is still better than full wages back home.

    Labors changes to 485 visa are a shocker.

    But you will not hear a Labor supporter say anything about the 485 because “The Team” introduced it.

  302. Hummmph permalink
    June 27, 2013 3:44 pm

    Labor have been very quiet on this issue Neil.
    Wouldn’t be popular, also brings in lots of money for uni’s.
    Hypocritical I reckon, many more 485 workers than 457, and they are allowed to take any work, not just unskilled.

  303. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 27, 2013 4:15 pm

    Yes they condemn 457’s which i agree with but say nothing about 485’s.

    Imagine spending 8 years to get a PhD and then find yourself competing with thousands of overseas students for a job in your own country.

    But the ALP introduced 485’s so their supporters are silent. Perhaps also Unions members are not effected by 485’s but are losing jobs and membership to 457’s??

  304. June 27, 2013 5:19 pm

    We’ll be overrun with Russian Scientists, eh, Neil!? 😯 🙄

  305. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 27, 2013 5:28 pm

    Exactly Toilet.

    Not only that all of Eastern Europe wants to migrate here. Eastern European salary for a research scientist is approx. $20K in relative terms. here you get 80K plus 17% Super.

    Furthermore they will work for half pay. Still better than full pay back home. Nothing to stop people coming in for 5 days and getting paid for 2.5.

    It is what annoys me about Labor. I am sure the Libs support both 457’s and 485’s but their get out of jail card is they actually believe in it. I don’t.

    If labor is cracking down on 457’s they should crack down on 485’s. But they are actually making it easier for people who come here to get an eduction to work here. I think there are 200,000 foreign students in Australia.

  306. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2013 5:44 pm

    I am sure the Libs support both 457′s and 485′s … but their get out of jail card is they actually believe in it …

    I’m struggling with the thought processes here … if there is any?

  307. June 27, 2013 5:47 pm

    We should racially profile all incoming Scientists

    Wait. What.

  308. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 27, 2013 6:36 pm

    I’m struggling with the thought processes here

    I will try and make it more simple. If you are against 457’s being rorted you have to be against 485’s. Actually 485’s are not being rorted, Labor has made it easier for foreign students to stay in Australia. If howard introduced 485’s the Cafe would have had 5 posts about Howard taking away local jobs with 485’s. The Cafe does not mention 485’s because they are an ALP creation.

    The Libs most probably believe they are (457’s and 485’s) good for Australia. I do not agree with that.

    Nothing worse than to bust your gets to get a skill and to find yourself competing with half the planet for a job in your own country. The Eastern Europeans will not talk back and work for half wages because they do not want to go home.

  309. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2013 6:46 pm

    I will try and make it more simple.

    Could try again, please. Maybe without the Cafe references …

    BTW, what do you do now? … you once told us you were an advisor to the Howard government …

  310. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 27, 2013 6:50 pm

    Did I?? News to me. I don’t recall telling anybody what i do.

    Labor condemns 457’s because they are a Howard creation but won’t condemn 485’s because they are a Labor creation.

    485’s are bad for Australian University students. Overseas students here will want to stay for the 4 years Labor has just allowed them to work for. That is 240,000 extra people looking for high skilled jobs.

  311. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2013 6:58 pm

    Lemonade stand? 😕

  312. June 27, 2013 7:24 pm

    Neil, in the past, sort of let on about where he works…but not what he does.

    The EasternBlocProfessorphobia is symptomatic of it, from memory.

  313. June 27, 2013 7:26 pm

    “advisor to the Howard government …”

    Chuckle.

    I think maybe the Howard Government kept paying him after they got the arse; and still are. 😯

    Either that, or he’s been giving them his time for free for the last 6 years. 😆

  314. June 27, 2013 7:54 pm

    ‘ ‘ where’s 730 reportland!! ‘ ‘
    l ducked out for a quiet coffee and all hell broke loose.
    *
    l didn`t rush back reb,
    l knew you were in safe hands and getting a wide variety of advice from
    Tom_of_Snacky-Walrus-Egg-Kneel-OSY

  315. egg permalink
    June 27, 2013 8:01 pm

    Anne Summers is a senior member of the Feminista.

    ‘Those ministers who honourably resigned last night did not include a single woman.

    ‘Not one of the nine women ministers showed any sisterly solidarity.

    ‘Do these women seriously think that it was OK for our first woman prime minister to be hounded out of office by bullying, duplicity and an outrageous trashing of her reputation?

    ‘Do they seriously think they are not also contaminated by the crude culture of misogyny that has now enveloped so much of the Labor Party?’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/bullying-and-outright-treachery-are-the-new-normal-in-australia-20130627-2oysw.html#ixzz2XPQl5R31

  316. June 27, 2013 8:06 pm

    I love how all of the Gillardboosters have conveniently forgotten the treachery she was front & centre of when she deposed Rudd in the first instance.

    Says heaps.

  317. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2013 8:19 pm

    I should have thought that being Prime Minister should never be gender oriented … seems the sisterhood thinks differently …

    … I just found out that one of my proteges … a secretary who took my job (manager) two years after I first met her … is now an international manager for a well known project management company … I’m quite chuffed …

    … she did it because she was a determined person not to prove she was as good as a man … big difference …

  318. TB Queensland permalink
    June 27, 2013 8:21 pm

    …. a secretary who took my job …

    … should have said who I “trained” to take my job, when I left … 🙂

  319. IPA permalink
    June 27, 2013 8:43 pm

    Neil is correct. Eastern bloc scientists are a dangerous race who hate our freedoms and take our jobs. 😯

  320. June 27, 2013 8:53 pm

    Summers sees all things as `feminista`, even when it`s not the case.
    Pre-Knifing, both Kevin07 and Labor gave Joolya specifically, and other females generally, opportunity to develop and positions of responsibility and power. Summers is full of crap bagging Labor as sexist. Valid sexist targets for Summer is large chunks of the embedded media and the behaviour of some elements of Mr-Rabbits mob.

  321. June 27, 2013 8:59 pm

    l must say tho, l have really enjoyed watching Wong and Shortman having too gulp down all that 3-year-old humble pie. Pure viewing pleasure. l`m surprised the Teabags didn`t enjoy it too.

  322. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 28, 2013 9:15 am

    Rudd needs a servant like this:

    Memento mori is Latin for “Remember death.” The phrase is believed to originate from an ancient Roman tradition in which a servant would be tasked with standing behind a victorious general as he paraded though town. As the general basked in the glory of the cheering crowds, the servant would whisper in the general’s ear: “Respice post te! Hominem te esse memento! Memento mori!” = “Look behind you! Remember that you are but a man!

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