Rostrum: Controversial Julia Gillard Waxwork Dummy Edition

Tim is missing !!

Gillard’s ethics would require her to claim several dole payments.

Here comes the Rudd ego……………………..

He apparently wants to rename the Gonski Schools policy to something else.

After all I suppose “Gonski” is to closely alligned to “Gillard” for the History books.

The Fed only talked about slowing the presses and all hell broke lose. History can repeat itself.

‘The entire pivot by the Federal Open Market Committee is mystifying, almost amateurish, and risks repeating the errors made by the Bank of Japan a decade ago, and perhaps repeating a mini-1937 when the Fed lost its nerve and tipped the US economy into a second leg of the Great Depression.’

Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Combet’s career is finished, deservedly. Swan might mature, given the right portfolio.

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Politicians should take the electorate seriously on alcohol abuse … there appears to be a bipartisan agreement to do nothing.

‘Seventy-six per cent of people believe Australia’s problem with alcohol-related violence will worsen over the next five years, according to a survey by public health groups.

‘The NSW Alcohol Policy Alliance, which includes the Australian Medical Association, Police Association, and Foundation for Alcohol Research and Education, will demand on Sunday that the O’Farrell government conduct an independent review of the Liquor Act.

‘The alliance accused the state government of stalling a mandatory five-year review of the liquor law, which has not started despite it being due for completion by December.’

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/demand-for-action-over-alcohol-and-violence-20130629-2p3vg.html#ixzz2XfbhjEk1

“The `prohibition` road always fails and always will as you can`t legislate `stoopidity` out of the community. Prohibition only leads to black-markets.”

Strongly agree.

“If it wasn’t worth the trip (ie earlier closing for clubs) then at least they’d stay home and drink … where they could be watched/supervised/protected … instead of getting knifed or king hit in the city!”

Why don’t ya just lock ’em up from dusk till dawn (for their own protection, mind)? 😯

I see a problem differentiating between those that need a bit of paternalism & ‘enforced guidance’ & those (like me) capable of responsibly finding their own way.

Because the latter get their hackles up when they are ‘thought for’ from on high. I am not comfortable with Nanny Statism.

Once again, I know that alcohol definitely isn’t for everyone. A bit of self control is required. Not everyone has the requisite amount.

and here’s TB trying to ban every man woman & child from ever drinking alcohol again in an alcoholocaust of total prohibition. Burn all alcohol! 😆

In Queensland, they favour alcohol with their xmas turducken…

I was having a lend, TB.

And I did muse on an alternative…curtailed trading hours. The same one you asserted, I think.

There’s nothing worse than drunken violence. Drunken decision making is a very bad idea too. Most of the rest of drunkeness is just an embarrassment for the drunk though.

How scary was the Old Mr Snuffalupagus, ay!

I was a toddler before he got reworked. I remember his crazy yellow boggle eyes.

CW doesn’t exclude contributors on the basis of behaviour, it’s on the basis of IQ… if it’s too high, you’re banned.

‘Far, far worse than anything which ever resulted in any current participant here being banned.’

Nevertheless, it was intuitive of the editor to ban that nasty piece of work.

Far, far worse than anything which ever resulted in any current participant here being banned there.

Hi

I’m new to this site .

I have a evil twin sister on another blog who is an expert in aircraft safety, the Bond market and Canberra real estate.

The legal drinking age is (now) in line with the age of majority, and the legal age for voting, marriage and military service. The fact that thousands of young adults frequent late night venues in city centres around Australia demonstrates the demand for such places. People go to these hotels and clubs for a drink, to socialise, dance – or whatever else it is they choose to do there – because they want to. There are thousands of mutually agreed transactions carried out every night between consenting adults and club owners. It goes against the values of a free society, and borders on puritanical wowserism, to say these activities should be banned, or restricted more than they already are. Yes, there are some people who get inebriated, either advertently or inadvertently, but they are already governed by a plethora of existing laws relating to public drunkenness, violence, offensive behaviour etc etc. It is (still) a legal activity to frequent these clubs. Once an individual crosses the line and breaks the law, however, they are – rightly – liable to suffer the consequences.

Some places don’t know about my terrible reputation.

The gutter trash editor has kindly let me hang out here, for the sake of my sanity.

IPA its clear you don’t live next to a pub, or you might be singing a different tune.

I’m no wowser ToSY, but selling a potentially dangerous drug to emotional young people should be restricted, via a price mechanism.

Double the price of alcohol, like they did with tobacco, and straight away there will be a marked difference in social behaviour.

Why stop there, they could double the price of unhealthy food in supermarkets and fast food joints…. and we would have a revolution on our hands.

Viva the Revolution!

Mark Butler Climate Change Minister.

Simin Crean wanted the deputy’s job, but his colleagues thought differently and now he’s also quitting politics.

‘I have always loved bad behavior’

I’ve always been attracted to badly behaved men, for some inexplicable reason.

‘sreb, is probably the most badly behaved man around here, egg’

He definitely sets the tone.

“Once an individual crosses the line and breaks the law, however, they are – rightly – liable to suffer the consequences.”

After they have beaten the shit out of some other innocent person.

For your statement to be correct there needs to be a cop on every street corner poised to intervene and prevent innocents being perhaps fatally harmed.

Clearly that’s no possible.

I tend to favour HUGE licencing fees for premises which remain open after 1am (including bottle shops). I dont favour just putting up the price of alcohol for everyone. If you want to go to a nightclub after 1pm then be ready to empty your pockets over the bar.

The increased licencing fes can then help pay for all the extra costs of police and medical staff currently paid by the taxpayer and wont affect smaller operations in suburbia like the corner pub or RSL.

And I dont buy this “international Cities stay open 24 hours ” rubbish.

Apparently its almost impossible to get a drink in LA after 11pm.

Picture here.

My point is the Law is no protection against a drunken thug.

You need to get them off the streets and not allow them to get so drunk in the first place.

“My point is the Law is no protection against a drunken thug.”

The law is no protection against any illegal behaviour. It can act as a deterrent, and can mete out punishment after the fact. It can’t prevent crime.

“Islamism in its various forms is the sole candidate in Egypt for an ideological alternative to the corpse of Nasserist nationalism; it has sold itself to the masses as the once-rejected rival to nationalism whose time has finally come. For decades, often under conditions of persecution and repression, the Muslim Brotherhood and similar movements demonstrated an idealism and a public spirit that the corrupt heirs of Nasser could not match. They operated soup kitchens for the poor; they offered young people patronage and improved educational access. Building on centuries of national tradition and religious aspiration, they developed a comprehensive, all-embracing world view that offered, or appeared to offer, answers to the three great problems of Egypt’s youthful population.

“First, Islamist economic policy administered by an honest and competent government would address the poverty and lack of opportunity afflicting so many Egyptians. Second, Islamist ideas would help the youth make sense of a chaotic and confusing world filled with disturbing ideas and values. And last but not least, Islamist success would restore dignity to Egyptians as human beings, as Egyptian citizens, as Arabs and as Muslims by overcoming backwardness and making Egypt self-sufficient and free-standing, respected in the world.

“That was the dream. Morsi’s biggest problem never was, and still is not today, the twittering liberals of early Tahrir; western oriented secular liberalism has a long way to go before it can become a significant ideological force among the masses in Egypt. His greatest ideological opponents are cynicism and despair and he is in such deep trouble today because the collapsing economy and the general paralysis make him look like another snake oil salesmen selling a fake route to progress. What if Islamism like Nasser’s nationalism is a failure in Egypt? What then? What next?

“Salafis, the ultra-Islamists who think Morsi’s problems stem from his failure to roll out the full glory of Islamist governance, hope that as the Muslim Brotherhood loses its appeal, their harder and purer faith will carry the day. It’s not impossible; the situation in Egypt is fluid and Islam is a powerful force in what remains a pious and serious society. But sooner or later the Salafis will come to the place in the road where Morsi stands; there is little reason to believe that more radical Islamist ideas and practices can heal what’s wrong with Egypt’s economy.”

Via Meadia: A Light Fails In Egypt

“The problem with you and other Young Libs, Kneel, is the narrow minded belief that you are better than everyone else… ”

Actually that is my opinion of Labor voters. Back to character assignation I see TB. You would make a great ALP politician.

“I said to one … “this is Ireland – now what do you know about Irish politics?”….”

Yep

2 things you dont mention especially in the far north up towards Port Rush are politics and religion.

It is a bit more relaxed in the Republic we found. But up North they were very polarised. We did the South (Irish Punt days) in 1999 pre-Euro (although Mrs Walrus managed to somehow get us lost at a military border checkpoint by heading too far north one day)and then the North itself initially via the Hollyhead-Dublin ferry then straight up North in 2002.

We could not believe how prices had gone thru the roof in the South due to the Euro. Dublin was more expensive than London. It was a great relief to the wallet getting north of the border to Sterling country again

Going to see WWZ after work tomoz evening.

Keen as fuck.

Especially the rockshifter! 😆

Y’all haven’t declared your rigidity for good zombie holocaust fillums, TB. 😉

I would rather stab myself in the ears with screwdrivers than listen to, let alone watch , Andre! 😯

“… as the rest get “virtually” pissed …”

“virtually” would be on Doctor’s orders for that lot.

We only do Gold Class now

We even smuggle in our own cheeseplate load of stuff and plonk it between us. We’ve learnt its much easier to put the toppings on top of the crackers before hand too. Too tough in the dark.

We do buy the overpriced wine there though not that its great. We just hate the really crap cheese with stale crackers they serve plus we like our own salami from the local butcher and same with the proscuito

… She strikes me as a bitter old control freak.

Semi-literate too – that’s how they prefer their contributors there.

Standards of literacy are overrated, little lone valued.

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‘The Bletchley Circle and some good TV viewing just lately …’

On your recommendation I watched it and was very impressed, at one stage it was so tense I had to leave the room.

4 stars

So your wholesaler a must be flying shit in for it (whatever it is) to go up that quickly.

Most trade is conducted via a Letter of Credit whereby the stock won’t arrive at higher prices for weeks.

I think they might be having a lend of you Outlander.

Tell them you might shop around for a while

Unhinged seems too kind. But he does fit in with the crowd.

Baseless, incorrect assertions & veiled threats.

Thanks for the heads up. A full copy of that thread has been taken. Perhaps I will forward it on to the MPs electoral office in case he wants to take legal action against the blog owner. I’m sure the MP in question would like somewhere to live whilst in Canberra. One cant own too many houses.

Blog owners need to be aware they are operating on a carriage service and the laws of defamation do apply to them. Many sleepless nights will lay ahead for the blog owner

DD seems nice

I think that’s what he meant reb.

If you take a look at what the Great Unhinged scaper posted I’d be shitting myself if I was an ex Canberra Public Servant allowing that to be posted.

Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark

LOL

Oooooops

I meant this one

http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/phoney-news/#comment-156232

I’m sure Walter Mitty is far better qualified than a large media corporation’s legal department to decide upon the veracity of the accusation & whether to publish it or not.

Based upon the inaccuracy of claims he’s made about me in the last day, I’d say he runs his mouth without engaging his brain.

A couple of days after goading another commenter about his wife’s suicide, today he chides a different commenter for “bringing other bloggers family members into it”!

The thick cunt inhabits a parallel universe & can’t control his aggressive impulses.

Delusional seems too mild. But his mate posted as Daffy Duck for years, so I think he fits in over there.

In fact CW has just become a slanging match. They’ve completely unhinged themselves following Julia’s downfall

The Café is reaching for its intellectual heights today with pearls of wisdom like this………………………

“your just a smart arse piece of shit , why don’t you crawl back up the anus where you came from.”

ROFLMAO

LOL

“59.2% youth unemployment in Greece. 56.4% in Spain.”

Well thats good news

At least 40% are now working

‘59.2% youth unemployment in Greece. 56.4% in Spain.
very, very dangerous news!’

And Marine le Penn wants to bring back the franc and breakup the Euro.

The story may also be on a more widely read, even less credible blog.

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/03/why-i-think-the-anthony-albanese-true-thai-massage-story-is-important-and-newsworthy.html

“Maybe it’s because he hates all of us here, so that means he must therefore be a “friend” of the cafe…?

Well there’s no “mutual” friendship for it from the posters I respect at CW …”

Honestly, I think that that’s exactly what it is.

The few longterm, credible commenters there have been on that fuckwit’s case since he was here/there/anywhere…

A lot of them have eaten some humble Ruddpie in the last week or so, too.

“Maybe it’s because he hates all of us here, so that means he must therefore be a “friend” of the cafe…?”

Or because they think that the “fabricating, uninformed, specualting, angry, unstable, nasty, incorrect, desperate, self adulating, craving for affirmation rockshifter” may one day actually get some inside knowledge that may be useful to them?

Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.

Zyklon-B…

‘Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.’

Machiavelli in “The Prince”

It makes good sense to know your enemy well.

Albo, the PM’s right hand, says gay marriage on Labor’s agenda.

Political expediency in an election year… unheard of.

Groupthink…..

‘What’s especially interesting to me is that it only took one “partner” who spoke the truth, to break the group effect. This is good news for the brave skeptical commenters who venture to sites and media-outlets where groupthink is at it’s most nakedly noxious. It’s also why the one person that speaks up to defend a victim can deflate the bully.’

Jonova

And the Wars upon business continues……………..
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From the Australian

UNIONS will seek to extend full adult pay rates to teenage workers across the economy if a retail industry test case before the Fair Work Commission is successful.

The commission’s full bench yesterday started hearing a case brought on by the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees Association that seeks to ensure 20-year-olds covered by the general retail award receive the full adult rate of pay taking effect once an employee reaches 21.

If the SDA is successful, 20-year-old retail workers would have their rate increased from $16.19 an hour to $17.98 and their weekly pay packet lifted from $615 to $683.

SDA national secretary Joe de Bruyn told The Australian that if the case was won other unions would take action to ensure young people covered by different awards were paid the full adult rate of pay.

“That must apply across the board,” he said. “There can’t be exceptions. So, in due course, in all other industries where the adult rate does not already apply, it would apply there.”

He confirmed the SDA would seek to ensure that 18 and 19-year-olds covered by the general retail award were moved on to the full adult rate.

“If we won it in the retail award we would be looking to apply it in the fast-food award and the pharmacy award and the other awards in which we have a say,” Mr de Bruyn said.

“People aged 18, 19 and 20 – who are adults for all purposes in society other than at the workplace – ought to be able to get the adult rate.”

The case will run all week before returning at a later date to hear further witness evidence.

Mr de Bruyn said there were about 120,000 people aged 18 to 20 in the retail sector who may be directly or indirectly affected by the decision.

The case has the backing of other unions representing large numbers of young workers, such as the Australian Manufacturing Workers Union, which has advocated for young adult workers to be shifted on to full adult rates.

AMWU national president Andrew Dettmer yesterday backed the SDA case and said his union had argued before the full bench earlier this year for 20-year-old apprentices to be paid at the full adult rate under the manufacturing award.

“On this policy, as on many others, we are completely consistent and wanting to ensure that young people – treated as adults for every other purpose – actually receive adult rates of pay,” he said. “Part of our suite of issues is the commencement of the adult rate at the age of 20.”

The retail and hospitality industries are the most exposed to any erosion of youth wages. Australian Bureau of Statistics figures show that, of the 687,000 people in the workforce aged under 20 years, 211,000 are in retail while 205,000 are in hospitality. Other big employers of young workers are the construction sector with 44,000 and manufacturing with 34,000.

Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry chief executive Peter Anderson warned that if the SDA was successful the Fair Work Commission would be setting a damaging economic precedent.

“The case is concerning enough for the retail industry because of the significant entry point that retailers provide for young people into the world of work,” Mr Anderson said. “The prospect that this case could flow into other service industries cannot be dismissed even though the consequences of doing so don’t bear thinking about.”

Australian Retailers Association executive director Russell Zimmerman said retailers were already struggling to manage the recent minimum wage increase, the hike in Saturday and Sunday penalty rates and the superannuation guarantee increase.

“The problem for us is that this is the thin edge of the wedge,” he said. “Where does it stop? They won’t stop at 20. They’ll go to 18-year-olds and try and get 18-year-olds back on to an adult wage as well.

“It would set a precedent. You would very quickly see it happen. You would very quickly see applications for that to happen.”

Australian Industry Group industrial relations director Stephen Smith said the full bench needed to keep in mind the SDA application had been made with the intention of “achieving a much bigger outcome”.

“The history (of junior pay rates) goes back to 1910 when they started talking about rates for boys or youths,” Mr Smith said. “There was a major inquiry by the Australian Industrial Relations Commission in 1998 into junior rates and the outcome of the inquiry is that there would be many negative consequences from the proposal that they are now pressing.

“If junior employees are to be paid the adult wage that will have a negative impact on junior employees as well as the whole community.”

Yep

Retailers have no incentive to hire teenagers if this goes through. May as well just hire experienced staff.

60% Youth Unemployment here we come

Kev on 730! He’ll have that nice Leigh Sales eating out of his hand.

She’ll probably give him similar treatment that Kerry O’Brien used to give Gillard ‘Oh, Kerry…how could you say that… *flutter*

I’ m with you TB. On while we are on the subject of retail could someone explain to me that high end clothing brands made in sweat shops are still able to big prices on their products.

And there should be a ‘put’. In front of big. Shouldn’t have started on the sherry so early.

I feared as much. It is a disgrace and we are mugs.

That is a female thing Reb.

still with its

Men are easily perplexed tee bee. Love that beeFace. Where do you find them. My I pad perplexes me.

Mr Dickhead Rudd is off to see Indonesian President Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Yoko Ono tomorrow.

Poor bastard……………..

If you are a dog botherer then we are alone in the universe, but mathematically this seems highly unlikely.

‘A new study by the University of Chicago and Northwestern University said that the Milky Way alone could contain 60 billion planets orbiting red dwarf stars that could support life.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2356807/Our-galaxy-contain-60-BILLION-alien-planets-capable-supporting-life–double-number-thought-before.html#ixzz2YDDBWwnP
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