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Rostrum: Controversial Julia Gillard Waxwork Dummy Edition

June 28, 2013

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Even after her political demise, the image of Julia Gillard continues to spark controversy with a   well-known wax museum placing a waxwork mannequin of Julia Gillard outside a Centrelink office.

The stunt has been met with outrage from some corners, with one Sydney Morning Herald journalist calling it “just plain stupid” and “offensive“..

I mean, seriously…

What’s more stupid and offensive, the standard of political journalism in this country or some campus stunt?

Aside from that, it’s actually quite a good likeness…!

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What do you think…??

 

 

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247 Comments leave one →
  1. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 28, 2013 2:53 pm

    Of course this just more outrageous misogyny. Have you ever heard of a wax dummy of a male ex-PM being put in a dole queue?

  2. igor p. permalink
    June 28, 2013 2:55 pm

    Tim is missing !!

  3. Hummmph permalink
    June 28, 2013 3:11 pm

    Outrageous.

  4. June 28, 2013 3:12 pm

    Kev’s already got the Libs in a panic…

    You know they’re shit scared when Julia Bishop lets loose with the hysteria… 😆

    “It is an utterly, utterly outrageous statement for Kevin Rudd to make, and if this is the behaviour we can expect from the Prime Minister within 24 hours of him being sworn in as Prime Minister, then we are in for a very ugly period of Australian politics.”

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/rudd-extends-school-reform-plan-deadline/story-fn9qr68y-1226671379678

  5. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2013 3:19 pm

    Only one thing wrong with that photo … NO-ONE stands in line outside a Centrelink office … no-one …

    Very good likeness of the PM oops … Julia Gillard … good do with some make-up though … she IS a woman …

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2013 3:21 pm

    good do???? WTF did I get that from … ah, been entertaining myself reading posts at CW/AIMN … of course … it must be catching* 😉

  7. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2013 3:26 pm

    Julie Bishop seems all at sea these days …

  8. Ol' Sancty permalink
    June 28, 2013 3:31 pm

    Is KRudd a pantzwetter?

  9. June 28, 2013 3:54 pm

    It’s hilarious to witness the mental Libs like Pyne, Hockey, Morrison, Bishop and Abbott whip themselves up into a frenzy….

    Rudd’s wiping the floor with them, which only gets them even more worked up…!

    It’s great to see Rudd back in the top job and dishing it out to the LIbs…

    They simply don’t know how to cope…. “Feigned hysterical outrage” is the only tactic they know, and unfortunately for them that just makes them look even more and more ridiculous! 😆

  10. TB Queensland permalink
    June 28, 2013 4:02 pm

    sreb, are you talking about today’s QT? “Cause that’s exactly what I thought yesterday! LOL! 😆

  11. June 28, 2013 4:37 pm

    I haven’t listened to QT TB, but just reading that quote from Bishop, and the one from Abbott that “Turnbull invented the internet”, well I just figured he’s got them riled… 😆

  12. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 28, 2013 4:43 pm

    Gillard’s ethics would require her to claim several dole payments.

  13. June 28, 2013 5:10 pm

    Giles Hardie, Entertainment Editor, smh.com.au,
    *
    bit of a pants-wetter that doesn`t understand comedy

  14. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 28, 2013 5:22 pm

    Just another humourless leftist, then? 🙂

  15. egg permalink
    June 28, 2013 6:04 pm

    ‘There had been only eight recorded sightings of the white-throated needletail in the UK since 1846. So when one popped up again on British shores this week, twitchers were understandably excited.

    ‘A group of 40 enthusiasts dashed to the Hebrides to catch a glimpse of the brown, black and blue bird, which breeds in Asia and winters in Australasia.

    ‘But instead of being treated to a wildlife spectacle they were left with a horror show when it flew into a wind turbine and was killed.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2350267/Rare-bird-seen-Britain-22-years-ago-killed-wind-turbine-crowd-twitchers-turned-catch-glimpse.html#ixzz2XUo07sNE
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  16. Evil Walrus permalink
    June 28, 2013 6:28 pm

    Here comes the Rudd ego……………………..

    He apparently wants to rename the Gonski Schools policy to something else.

    After all I suppose “Gonski” is to closely alligned to “Gillard” for the History books.

  17. egg permalink
    June 29, 2013 9:06 am

    After their stunning success at megastructure building over the past couple of decades the Chinese wanted a crack at Sydney, but Barry told them to piss off.

    ‘At least 150 pre-fabricated skyscrapers from Central Station to Strathfield, conveyor belts shuttling building materials above Ultimo, train lines ripped up for new ones underground, and much of the steel and concrete shipped from China, with an army of international workers assembling it all for a pittance.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/data-point/swap-you-chinese-skyscrapers-for-a-motorway-20130628-2p2qk.html#ixzz2XYSoAEcr

  18. egg permalink
    June 29, 2013 3:15 pm

    The Fed only talked about slowing the presses and all hell broke lose. History can repeat itself.

    ‘The entire pivot by the Federal Open Market Committee is mystifying, almost amateurish, and risks repeating the errors made by the Bank of Japan a decade ago, and perhaps repeating a mini-1937 when the Fed lost its nerve and tipped the US economy into a second leg of the Great Depression.’

    Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

  19. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 29, 2013 4:25 pm

    Combet going, but Swan staying. That doesn’t seem quite right.

    Swan has been a dead weight, the worst treasurer in memory, but he stays. Combet probably doesn’t see much opportunity for himself for a couple of terms.

    His maner isn’t suitable for politics.

  20. egg permalink
    June 30, 2013 2:28 pm

    Combet’s career is finished, deservedly. Swan might mature, given the right portfolio.

    —–

    Politicians should take the electorate seriously on alcohol abuse … there appears to be a bipartisan agreement to do nothing.

    ‘Seventy-six per cent of people believe Australia’s problem with alcohol-related violence will worsen over the next five years, according to a survey by public health groups.

    ‘The NSW Alcohol Policy Alliance, which includes the Australian Medical Association, Police Association, and Foundation for Alcohol Research and Education, will demand on Sunday that the O’Farrell government conduct an independent review of the Liquor Act.

    ‘The alliance accused the state government of stalling a mandatory five-year review of the liquor law, which has not started despite it being due for completion by December.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/demand-for-action-over-alcohol-and-violence-20130629-2p3vg.html#ixzz2XfbhjEk1

  21. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2013 4:27 pm

    Adult age back to 21 … limited licence hours and at minimum 2am club closing … these Robber Barons only care about making money from misery caused by youngsters getting pissed … and often raped and/or murdered!

    We all know that if the drinking age is 21 they’ll drink at 16 … now its 18 they’ll drink at 13 …

    Anyone else enjoyed the company of teens at a famiy get together and then they disappear around 11:30 – into town to the clubs?

    If it wasn’t worth the trip (ie earlier closing for clubs) then at least they’d stay home and drink … where they could be watched/supervised/protected … instead of getting knifed or king hit in the city!

  22. June 30, 2013 4:49 pm

    l disagree TB.
    The `prohibition` road always fails and always will as you can`t legislate `stoopidity` out of the community. Prohibition only leads to black-markets.

  23. June 30, 2013 4:52 pm

    Agree on the closing-times tho. The `age` thing would suffer like prohibition, as it does with drugs

  24. June 30, 2013 5:11 pm

    “The `prohibition` road always fails and always will as you can`t legislate `stoopidity` out of the community. Prohibition only leads to black-markets.”

    Strongly agree.

  25. June 30, 2013 5:50 pm

    Meanwhile at teh cafe, Miglo is lavishing adulation on the ever insightful Catching Up, with a dedicated post titled “What do you think?”

    I can’t help wondering whether he forgot a comma in there somewhere…

    Given the intellectual weight of Catching Up’s usual commentary, I can’t help thinking that it should have been called:

    “What, do you think…?”

    Just sayin’ 😯

  26. IPA permalink
    June 30, 2013 5:57 pm

    “If it wasn’t worth the trip (ie earlier closing for clubs) then at least they’d stay home and drink … where they could be watched/supervised/protected … instead of getting knifed or king hit in the city!”

    Why don’t ya just lock ’em up from dusk till dawn (for their own protection, mind)? 😯

  27. egg permalink
    June 30, 2013 6:12 pm

    Prohibition fails, but doubling the price of alcohol (heaven forbid) should have a sobering effect and create a tax windfall.

    Over at Sportsbet the punters are confident same sex marriage will be legalised next year, or the year after.

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2013 6:24 pm

    Strongly agree.

    Ser Tee and 007 … so what do you suggest? Or we don’t have a problem?

    I’m 66 now 😉 and I’ve seen the changes occur over my lifetime … (I’ve was refused a drink more than once when I was 21, and had to show ID!!!) … it’s not only destroying individual lives but family life … ask ANY pollie – the mainstay of our society …

    … but then I can afford to be old-fashioned … 🙂

    Correct me if I’m wrong but the difficulty is going back!

    ToSY … I won’t reply ’cause for all I know you live all by yourself … a strong suspicion ‘based on your sarcasm of the world around you …

  29. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2013 6:26 pm

    You lot know why the age of adulthood was shifted from 21 to 18 I assume?

    ToSY, dashes off to do some quick research …

    Let’s just say that I’m very conscious of the reasoning … 🙂

  30. June 30, 2013 6:33 pm

    the draft @ TB
    some of us aren`t pig ignorant and pre-welded to a political cult

  31. June 30, 2013 6:48 pm

    TB.

    I have no problem with harm minimisation strategies. I welcome them. I know very well that alcohol is a great driver of many kinds of societal harm.

    All I agreed with was, essentially, that ‘prohibition never works’. Because that’s something else I know.

    I’m open to ‘more sensible’ trading hours & suchlike.

    But…prohibition, of virtually anything, is fraught. As stated above, the underworld thrive in the spaces created by prohibition & overregulation.

  32. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2013 6:55 pm

    Erm, did I suggest “prohibition”? I too agree that prohibition is fraught with more dangers … we humans are very clever at destroying ourselves … but although I sympathise with our resident libertarians (Ser Tee and ToSY) … we do need parameters to control our behaviour … I was controlled most of my younger life … and I fight it every day as an adult …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    007, yep and I know … the argument was a good one … we were old enough to go to war but not old enough to make decisions as adults … like having a drink …

    Both decisions were fkn dumb!

    The draft and reducing the age of adulthood … (if there is a definable age)

  33. June 30, 2013 6:56 pm

    “Harm minimisation” is a nice slogan but it’s so far removed from the reality of Australian drinking culture…

    The alcohol industry is all encompassing in Australia.

    The booze culture is practically at epidemic proportions, and sadly I have NFI how it’s going to be addressed…..

    Maybe once sporting “heros” sober up, that might be a starting point…?

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2013 7:06 pm

    Hey, I just realised, egg, finally got a conversation going!

    Well, done, egg, you finally crack’d it! 🙄

  35. June 30, 2013 7:09 pm

    lsn`t so-called democracy about personal Liberty unnecessarily interfered with by Govt and its rules. Those not harming anybody should be left alone. Those that are harming others need their neck stepped on.

  36. June 30, 2013 7:15 pm

    I see a problem differentiating between those that need a bit of paternalism & ‘enforced guidance’ & those (like me) capable of responsibly finding their own way.

    Because the latter get their hackles up when they are ‘thought for’ from on high. I am not comfortable with Nanny Statism.

    Once again, I know that alcohol definitely isn’t for everyone. A bit of self control is required. Not everyone has the requisite amount.

    and here’s TB trying to ban every man woman & child from ever drinking alcohol again in an alcoholocaust of total prohibition. Burn all alcohol! 😆

  37. June 30, 2013 7:16 pm

    “Those not harming anybody should be left alone. Those that are harming others need their neck stepped on.”

    Sounds good to me.

  38. June 30, 2013 7:20 pm

    In Queensland, they favour alcohol with their xmas turducken…

  39. June 30, 2013 7:24 pm

    Drinking certainly does permeate Australian culture.

    Amongst the many people I’ve ever been acquainted with, I’d have to say, it would be more unusual to find one who doesn’t drink.

  40. June 30, 2013 7:35 pm

    No Dunny,
    all of uncle TBs anti alcohol rants are coz he over-indulged in his recent 307th celebrations and now feel the need to correct the young`uns 🙂

  41. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2013 7:45 pm

    Why all the hysteria and misleading comments … its like discussing the Libs with two Kneels … you lot brought up prohibition and banning everyone … not me … that’s definitely “look over there” tactics … read my original post again …

    Rights have two sides … you both defend the rights of people to have a drink – so would I … but I dojn’t defend the rights of people who get pissed out of their brains and make life hard (or non existent) for others … usually in the wee hours of the morning …

    If you carry your “arguments” on to other subjects … why bother with driving licences and road rules? Society has to have rules … if necessary they are improved … but these days the rules are made/changed to make money not to protect people …

    FMD, blind freddy can see that the problem is out of control … but neither of you have offered an alternative to protecting people from the Dickwits … rubbishing my suggestions isn’t arguing a case its just fogging the issue …

  42. June 30, 2013 7:49 pm

    I was having a lend, TB.

    And I did muse on an alternative…curtailed trading hours. The same one you asserted, I think.

    There’s nothing worse than drunken violence. Drunken decision making is a very bad idea too. Most of the rest of drunkeness is just an embarrassment for the drunk though.

  43. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 30, 2013 7:51 pm

    Yes – political analysis by Catching Up.

    Did Miglo correct grammar, spelling, the wrong link, talking about the wrong politician?

    Is she still an expert on aircraft safety and operating procedures?

  44. June 30, 2013 7:51 pm

    How scary was the Old Mr Snuffalupagus, ay!

    I was a toddler before he got reworked. I remember his crazy yellow boggle eyes.

  45. June 30, 2013 7:53 pm

    I note, today the scaper fucktard got to make some fairly loathsome comments about the responsibility another commenter bore for his wife’s suicide, at Cafe Banblog.

    Far, far worse than anything which ever resulted in any current participant here being banned.

  46. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2013 7:59 pm

    I was having a lend, TB.

    🙄

    😛

    WTF, is Old Mr Snuffalupagus?

    Re scaper … I did have some email discussion with Migs/Min (angrily) about scaper’s return and my self banning if it continued …

    Strange that they ignore his vitriole and get rid of those who simply disagree … the Farnham Bear had a similar problem …

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    June 30, 2013 8:02 pm

    Anyone watching, Endeavour, on Seven? Really well made … portrays Inspector Morse when he was a young detective constable … great scripts too, as only the Poms can write … the Yanks just don’t get sophisticated plot development …

  48. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 30, 2013 8:11 pm

    CW doesn’t exclude contributors on the basis of behaviour, it’s on the basis of IQ… if it’s too high, you’re banned.

  49. egg permalink
    June 30, 2013 8:15 pm

    ‘Well, done, egg, you finally crack’d it!’

    Its only been a couple of years.

  50. egg permalink
    June 30, 2013 8:20 pm

    ‘Far, far worse than anything which ever resulted in any current participant here being banned.’

    Nevertheless, it was intuitive of the editor to ban that nasty piece of work.

  51. egg permalink
    June 30, 2013 8:41 pm

    The cafe should knock up a its millionth hit during the week.

  52. June 30, 2013 9:22 pm

    Far, far worse than anything which ever resulted in any current participant here being banned there.

  53. egg permalink
    June 30, 2013 9:28 pm

    Ooops … my misread.

    ToM is correct, a low IQ is essential for entry at the cafe. As you all know I’m harmless and slightly boring at times, but that shouldn’t be a banning offence.

  54. Fucked Up permalink
    June 30, 2013 10:03 pm

    Hi

    I’m new to this site .

    I have a evil twin sister on another blog who is an expert in aircraft safety, the Bond market and Canberra real estate.

  55. June 30, 2013 10:13 pm

    FFS, you`lot still sulking about your eviction,
    why.? egg has his own rubber-room here,
    and don`t recall Dunny being denied a coffee.?

  56. IPA permalink
    June 30, 2013 10:42 pm

    The legal drinking age is (now) in line with the age of majority, and the legal age for voting, marriage and military service. The fact that thousands of young adults frequent late night venues in city centres around Australia demonstrates the demand for such places. People go to these hotels and clubs for a drink, to socialise, dance – or whatever else it is they choose to do there – because they want to. There are thousands of mutually agreed transactions carried out every night between consenting adults and club owners. It goes against the values of a free society, and borders on puritanical wowserism, to say these activities should be banned, or restricted more than they already are. Yes, there are some people who get inebriated, either advertently or inadvertently, but they are already governed by a plethora of existing laws relating to public drunkenness, violence, offensive behaviour etc etc. It is (still) a legal activity to frequent these clubs. Once an individual crosses the line and breaks the law, however, they are – rightly – liable to suffer the consequences.

  57. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 1, 2013 12:10 am

    730 meets the required IQ test.

  58. July 1, 2013 12:32 am

    ‘ ‘ 730 meets the required IQ test. ‘ ‘
    Nah Yomm, l`m not backing Mr-Rabbit.

  59. Dianne permalink
    July 1, 2013 7:57 am

    I am harmless and boring too Egg but I appear to be banned at free-wheeling Catallaxy. I see they let you in Egg.

  60. egg permalink
    July 1, 2013 8:14 am

    Some places don’t know about my terrible reputation.

    The gutter trash editor has kindly let me hang out here, for the sake of my sanity.

  61. Dianne permalink
    July 1, 2013 8:21 am

    He appears to be doing the same for the others too.

  62. egg permalink
    July 1, 2013 8:26 am

    IPA its clear you don’t live next to a pub, or you might be singing a different tune.

    I’m no wowser ToSY, but selling a potentially dangerous drug to emotional young people should be restricted, via a price mechanism.

    Double the price of alcohol, like they did with tobacco, and straight away there will be a marked difference in social behaviour.

    Why stop there, they could double the price of unhealthy food in supermarkets and fast food joints…. and we would have a revolution on our hands.

    Viva the Revolution!

  63. egg permalink
    July 1, 2013 8:29 am

    ‘He appears to be doing the same for the others too.’

    Its an amusing troupe.

  64. egg permalink
    July 1, 2013 8:44 am

    Mark Butler Climate Change Minister.

  65. Dianne permalink
    July 1, 2013 8:52 am

    You are funny. A lot of you seem to be plumbers! I have always loved bad behavior … from a safe distance.

  66. egg permalink
    July 1, 2013 8:59 am

    Simin Crean wanted the deputy’s job, but his colleagues thought differently and now he’s also quitting politics.

    ‘I have always loved bad behavior’

    I’ve always been attracted to badly behaved men, for some inexplicable reason.

  67. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 9:07 am

    Bluff and bluster al you want, ToSY

    These are FACTS!

    And this is just Queensland … Mexico is worse …

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/queensland/police-crime-maps-show-an-explosion-of-violence-in-hot-spots-in-fortitude-valley-surfers-paradise-and-townsville/story-fnii5v6w-1226672183399

  68. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 9:11 am

    A lot of you seem to be plumbers!

    Some of us here do plumb the depths of insensitive liberalism … Di

    I’ve always been attracted to badly behaved men

    sreb, is probably the most badly behaved man around here, egg 😉

  69. July 1, 2013 9:11 am

    Happy new financial year!
    Time to stop forward dating invoices and start saving for that next BAS,
    Time to take the money/cheques you’ve been holding over out of the safe and bank them.
    Time for Business/Government to stop spending like drunken sailors or not spending at all.
    Time for Business/Government to start spending thier new budget.
    Aussie dollars down it’s only a matter of time before the big suppiiers start putting their price up on imports. (The golden Ebay days are over)
    Exporters have a slight advantage but all of our mineral resources are exported in USD not much advantage there.
    It’s been another good year for my business, now my accountant will stuff that up by telling me how much tax I owe……AHHHHHHH!

  70. egg permalink
    July 1, 2013 9:23 am

    ‘sreb, is probably the most badly behaved man around here, egg’

    He definitely sets the tone.

  71. IPA permalink
    July 1, 2013 9:25 am

    “These are FACTS!”

    Yes, those are quite alarming statistics, TB, but my point is that assault is already illegal. Which brings us to the age-old question: Why penalise the majority of law-abiding citizens because of the bad behaviour of a minority?

  72. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 1, 2013 9:37 am

    “Once an individual crosses the line and breaks the law, however, they are – rightly – liable to suffer the consequences.”

    After they have beaten the shit out of some other innocent person.

    For your statement to be correct there needs to be a cop on every street corner poised to intervene and prevent innocents being perhaps fatally harmed.

    Clearly that’s no possible.

    I tend to favour HUGE licencing fees for premises which remain open after 1am (including bottle shops). I dont favour just putting up the price of alcohol for everyone. If you want to go to a nightclub after 1pm then be ready to empty your pockets over the bar.

    The increased licencing fes can then help pay for all the extra costs of police and medical staff currently paid by the taxpayer and wont affect smaller operations in suburbia like the corner pub or RSL.

    And I dont buy this “international Cities stay open 24 hours ” rubbish.

    Apparently its almost impossible to get a drink in LA after 11pm.

  73. IPA permalink
    July 1, 2013 9:49 am

    “After they have beaten the shit out of some other innocent person”.

    Yes, well, it’s difficult to charge someone with assault before they have actually assaulted someone.

  74. IPA permalink
    July 1, 2013 10:00 am

    Picture here.

  75. egg permalink
    July 1, 2013 10:13 am

    ‘I tend to favour HUGE licencing fees for premises which remain open after 1am’

    I’ll pay that, but midnight is a better cut off point.

  76. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 1, 2013 10:17 am

    My point is the Law is no protection against a drunken thug.

    You need to get them off the streets and not allow them to get so drunk in the first place.

  77. Hummmph permalink
    July 1, 2013 10:23 am

    Some kids get sloshed at home before going out as its much cheaper, so you have another side of the coin that they are sometimes ” pumped” and ready for trouble and they haven’t even bought a drink at the night club.

  78. IPA permalink
    July 1, 2013 10:25 am

    “My point is the Law is no protection against a drunken thug.”

    The law is no protection against any illegal behaviour. It can act as a deterrent, and can mete out punishment after the fact. It can’t prevent crime.

  79. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 1, 2013 10:31 am

    Great picture, IPA. I wonder whether Obama will back the protesters or the Muslim Brotherhood regime he helped install? He worked very hard to install Islamist regimes in Tunisia, Libya and Egypt and is still working hard at it in Syria.

  80. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 1, 2013 10:35 am

    “The law is no protection against any illegal behaviour. It can act as a deterrent, and can mete out punishment after the fact. It can’t prevent crime.”

    You need effective policing for that.

    We should have a few precincts allowing all hours drinking, with ample police presence. A system of heavy fines can fund the policing with the balance from the pub-owners.

  81. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 1, 2013 11:00 am

    Today we apparently celebrate the 250,000th comment made by Catching Up at CW. Some of which contain correct spelling, several even include coherent sentences!!

  82. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 11:50 am

    ToSY,

    … you may recall me saying a few words about The Muslim Brotherhood and being careful what you wished for, (not you personally), during the original uprising …

    … having been to Egypt (1997) I could never see it “reverting” to hardline Islam (ie Sharia) …

    … will the army step up again, I wonder?

  83. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 1, 2013 11:58 am

    “… having been to Egypt (1997) I could never see it “reverting” to hardline Islam (ie Sharia) … ”

    They’d be kissing Tourism goodbye from Aswan to Alexandria. Not to mention the Red Sea resorts. One of the largest tourism groups are actually Israelis according to the guide I had in 2002

  84. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 12:16 pm

    Yes, Wally, we were told that too … and a lot of tourists we met from Europe (how the Germans love Egypt!) and the States had visited Isreal before Egypt …

    I mean the place was “wobbly” with regard to security then! Police, Security, Army and Tourism Police all wandering around with automatic weapons …

    Not sure it would have improved for you in 2002?

  85. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 1, 2013 12:48 pm

    It had because they had the tourist massacre you might recall at that Queen Hatshepsut Temple in very late 1997.

    In 2002 the joint was filthy with “tourism police” strutting about with AK47s. There was even a fixed machine gun on top of the boat we were on going down the Nile.

    We had 3 police on board and most boats had the same and all traveled in single file to the various towns along the way. There was a strict no sailing rule after dark which helped the townships as their night markets boomed. The 3 police would be relieved each night and another 3 would jump on.

    We boarded the boat in Aswan on 11 September 2002 exactly a year after 9/11. The crew were watching CNN replays and cheering as each plane hit the WTTs.

    Most off-putting

    I’ll never forget it. We were required to leave our passports with the purser so the local cops could check them (plus Lord knows whatever else).

    Mrs Walrus and her girlfriends traveling with us thought he was a very nice chap. However she went white and I burst out quietly giggling at the black humour when he introduced himself on a first name basis.

    His first name was……………………..Osama

  86. IPA permalink
    July 1, 2013 1:04 pm

    “Islamism in its various forms is the sole candidate in Egypt for an ideological alternative to the corpse of Nasserist nationalism; it has sold itself to the masses as the once-rejected rival to nationalism whose time has finally come. For decades, often under conditions of persecution and repression, the Muslim Brotherhood and similar movements demonstrated an idealism and a public spirit that the corrupt heirs of Nasser could not match. They operated soup kitchens for the poor; they offered young people patronage and improved educational access. Building on centuries of national tradition and religious aspiration, they developed a comprehensive, all-embracing world view that offered, or appeared to offer, answers to the three great problems of Egypt’s youthful population.

    “First, Islamist economic policy administered by an honest and competent government would address the poverty and lack of opportunity afflicting so many Egyptians. Second, Islamist ideas would help the youth make sense of a chaotic and confusing world filled with disturbing ideas and values. And last but not least, Islamist success would restore dignity to Egyptians as human beings, as Egyptian citizens, as Arabs and as Muslims by overcoming backwardness and making Egypt self-sufficient and free-standing, respected in the world.

    “That was the dream. Morsi’s biggest problem never was, and still is not today, the twittering liberals of early Tahrir; western oriented secular liberalism has a long way to go before it can become a significant ideological force among the masses in Egypt. His greatest ideological opponents are cynicism and despair and he is in such deep trouble today because the collapsing economy and the general paralysis make him look like another snake oil salesmen selling a fake route to progress. What if Islamism like Nasser’s nationalism is a failure in Egypt? What then? What next?

    “Salafis, the ultra-Islamists who think Morsi’s problems stem from his failure to roll out the full glory of Islamist governance, hope that as the Muslim Brotherhood loses its appeal, their harder and purer faith will carry the day. It’s not impossible; the situation in Egypt is fluid and Islam is a powerful force in what remains a pious and serious society. But sooner or later the Salafis will come to the place in the road where Morsi stands; there is little reason to believe that more radical Islamist ideas and practices can heal what’s wrong with Egypt’s economy.”

    Via Meadia: A Light Fails In Egypt

  87. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 1, 2013 1:45 pm

    “the situation in Egypt is fluid and Islam is a powerful force in what remains a pious and serious society.”

    And that is the problem. Islam is not only a religion but also a political system. It is deeply entrenched and the Egyptian public will not tolerate a government that is not Islamic. To understand how deeply entrenched Islam is, consider that Egypt is a society where over 90% of the females have been genitally mutilated. Egypt has laws against it, but most clerics reject those laws and the practice continues. Such religious conservatism will take generations to die out. In the meantime the failing economy will provoke calls for ever more pious governments to win back the favour of Allah. One likely tactic will be war with the hated Jews next door. In order to stave off this outcome, and also the possibility of another 90 million starving refugees on its doorstep Europe, together with the US, will continue to provide massive funding.

  88. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 2:05 pm

    Wally, the coach we used was blown up three months after we came home … it was parked at the Cairo Museum and when they showed it on the news I read the name of the tour company we were with … and they only had one coach! And the bus park was allocated to them only! Shivery stuff … it was around the time of the Queen Hatshepsut Temple shootings …

    Having read ToSy’s c&p and sb’s posts above … I suspect you get a different perspective having been there …

    These days I see Russia becoming more of a threat in the Middle East (the Final Frontier?) and a good reason for “massive funding” … Egypt has nothing other than tourism …

  89. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 1, 2013 2:25 pm

    I went to Egypt once with 2 mates. We went to the movies just to check out the local culture and it was a strange experience. The movie was very violent, it was a Charles Bronson movie from memory, and the theatre was all male. Except for one female. And she arrived chaperoned.

    Next day we went walkabout through the areas very few tourists would go. People used the streets as a toilet. Meat covered with flies was being offered for sale.

    However the accommodation was cheap. A three star hotel was not very expensive. But you had to tip otherwise your room was not cleaned.

  90. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 1, 2013 2:25 pm

    Russia seems to be in bed with the Shi’ites (Syria and Russia), so it makes sense that the Yanks and Europe will still fund Sunni states like the Egyptians. In the end we will probably get a regional proxy war out of it.

  91. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 3:09 pm

    I went to Egypt once with 2 mates. We went to the movies just to check out the local culture …

    What a strange lad … 😕

  92. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 3:26 pm

    People used the streets as a toilet.

    You want to take a “walkabout” around the backstreets of Kings Cross in your own city (where most tourists don’t go) … or The Rocks at night … you’ll also see a lot of syringes too!

    The problem with you and other Young Libs, Kneel, is the narrow minded belief that you are better than everyone else…

    … as a character in GoT often says … “you know nothing …”

  93. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 1, 2013 4:23 pm

    Yes TB similar coach bus experience when we caught ferry from Spain to Morocco. As we were boarding the coach in the port in Morocco Mrs Walrus (she didn’t have her glasses on) enquired about why so many “screws” were missing along the side of the bus. I hadn’t noticed as I was talking to someone else in the line.

    Then I realised and started laughing. They were definitely NOT screw holes but bullet holes. Just a reasonably straight line right down the side of the bus .

    Apparently the bus was left outside the depot one night and it got kinda sprayed during a “festival” of some sorts

  94. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 1, 2013 4:24 pm

    “The problem with you and other Young Libs, Kneel, is the narrow minded belief that you are better than everyone else…

    Actually that is my opinion of Labor voters. Back to character assignation I see TB. You would make a great ALP politician.

  95. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 4:38 pm

    Thanks , Kneel, the ALP certainly needs some new talent!

    My point was that you were rubbishing Egypt as if the same thing didn’t happen in your own city …

    Unlike you I wasn’t born to rule … 😉

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 4:44 pm

    Wally, I remember being ushered off the ferry to Ireland ve-e-e-ry quickly and a group of Americans – ’tis always the Yanks … fkn about asking the crew why all the fuss … I said to one … “this is Ireland – now what do you know about Irish politics?” Her eyes were funny as the message dawned … she and her friends actually beat down the gangplank …

    I told an American that there was an earthquake scheduled that the day as we climbed into the Great Pyramid …” when?” … he said innocently …

  97. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 1, 2013 5:01 pm

    “…………we climbed into the Great Pyramid …” when?” … he said innocently …”

    LOL

    Yeah that tunnel to the stone coffin area (or whatever ya call it) was friggin’ narrow and dusty.

    Not for those with any tiny bit of claustrophobia.

    One of our friends following behind me was getting a bit agitated so I yelled to her ” Varn this bloody thing has been up for three and a half thousand years……………………..it aint gunna fall on your head today”

    She made it OK in the end

  98. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 1, 2013 5:12 pm

    “I said to one … “this is Ireland – now what do you know about Irish politics?”….”

    Yep

    2 things you dont mention especially in the far north up towards Port Rush are politics and religion.

    It is a bit more relaxed in the Republic we found. But up North they were very polarised. We did the South (Irish Punt days) in 1999 pre-Euro (although Mrs Walrus managed to somehow get us lost at a military border checkpoint by heading too far north one day)and then the North itself initially via the Hollyhead-Dublin ferry then straight up North in 2002.

    We could not believe how prices had gone thru the roof in the South due to the Euro. Dublin was more expensive than London. It was a great relief to the wallet getting north of the border to Sterling country again

  99. egg permalink
    July 1, 2013 5:19 pm

    Within the Great Pyramid there is the king’s antechamber, where you may have seen the Granite Leaf.

    Written on it is a prophecy which came to past… September 17, 2001… the day Bush went to war on terror.

  100. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 5:28 pm

    Not for those with any tiny bit of claustrophobia.

    The Minister turned back … but that WAS after the lights went out and were turned on again after about 30 seconds … not pleasant … I broke the rules (I know totally not me 🙂 ) and got a photo at the sarcophagus – persuaded the attendant 😉 coupla E quid and flash!

    I must confess I had never heard of the Rosetta Stone until we visited the British Museum – just before we went to Egypt … and I don’t recall the Granite Leaf, egg?

  101. July 1, 2013 5:33 pm

    “persuaded the attendant coupla E quid and a flash!”

    The money probably would’ve been sufficient… 😆

  102. July 1, 2013 5:58 pm

    Going to see WWZ after work tomoz evening.

    Keen as fuck.

  103. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:01 pm

    Its a Movie about a Cafe

  104. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:03 pm

    Not your kinda “flash”, sreb!

    WWZ is not a GC movie according to my son and his boss …

  105. July 1, 2013 6:04 pm

    Carpet bombing would fix the outbreak…

  106. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:04 pm

    Its a Movie about a Cafe

    I can see the zombies … but where’s Brad Pitt?

  107. July 1, 2013 6:05 pm

    GC? W…T…F…?

    Are you channeling Snuffy again?

  108. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:05 pm

    Not the rockshifter!!!

  109. July 1, 2013 6:05 pm

    “Going to see WWZ after work tomoz evening.”

    I’ll be interested to know what you think boss…

  110. July 1, 2013 6:06 pm

    Especially the rockshifter! 😆

  111. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:07 pm

    I’ll be interested to know what you think boss…

    Yeah! Bloody favouritism! What about what, Wally or ToSY, or, sb, or … or … or … the rest of us!

  112. July 1, 2013 6:08 pm

    Y’all haven’t declared your rigidity for good zombie holocaust fillums, TB. 😉

  113. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:09 pm

    Are you channeling Snuffy again?

    Gold Class ya country yokel! 🙄

    Especially the rockshifter!

    I meant who plays Brad Pitt!

  114. July 1, 2013 6:11 pm

    “What about what, Wally”

    If I wanted a review of “Andre Rieu Live In Concert,” I’d fkn ask for it!!

  115. July 1, 2013 6:12 pm

    Carpet bombing would fix the outbreak of gravel shovellers.

  116. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:16 pm

    Rigidity? Please explain?

    i enjoyed Contagion … I read that this is what Contagion “should have been” …

    I do confess to not ever having watched “Brokeback Mountain” yet … but then I haven’t watched the Hangover franchise movies either …

    BTW, anyone been watching Longmire … add that to Endeavour and The Bletchley Circle and some good TV viewing just lately …

  117. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:19 pm

    If I wanted a review of “Andre Rieu Live In Concert,” I’d fkn ask for it!!

    And what’s wrong with André Rieu? (Bloody hell you can spell it too!)

  118. July 1, 2013 6:21 pm

    “Bloody hell you can spell it too!”

    To be honest, I had to google it…

  119. July 1, 2013 6:23 pm

    “anyone been watching Longmire … add that to Endeavour and The Bletchley Circle and some good TV viewing just lately …”

    Nope, what are they?

  120. July 1, 2013 6:23 pm

    I would rather stab myself in the ears with screwdrivers than listen to, let alone watch , Andre! 😯

  121. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:25 pm

    And fkn honest!

    I see the 1000,000 didn’t mean much one CW resident … “no the million is over … this is news” … as the rest get “virtually” pissed …

  122. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:30 pm

    “… as the rest get “virtually” pissed …”

    “virtually” would be on Doctor’s orders for that lot.

  123. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:33 pm

    Nope, what are they?

    Longmire – US town/county sheriff … old fashioned style, “don’t use mobile phones”, clashes with the reservation cops but “luckily” his best mate is an indigenous american …

    Endeavour – is Inspector Morses name … this is set in the 1950’s when he is a Det Constable too smart for his own good and learning the ropes from DCI Thursday … great scripts …

    The Bletchley Circle – four women who worked at Bletchely Park during WWII, are feeling underutilised after the war, get together to investigate serial murders – experts in patterns, maps, photographic memory and their supervisor – with contacts … works well …

  124. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:35 pm

    We only do Gold Class now

    We even smuggle in our own cheeseplate load of stuff and plonk it between us. We’ve learnt its much easier to put the toppings on top of the crackers before hand too. Too tough in the dark.

    We do buy the overpriced wine there though not that its great. We just hate the really crap cheese with stale crackers they serve plus we like our own salami from the local butcher and same with the proscuito

  125. July 1, 2013 6:47 pm

    Oh ok thanks TB.

  126. July 1, 2013 6:50 pm

    “no the million is over”

    CU always likes to lay down the rules… She strikes me as a bitter old control freak.

  127. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:51 pm

    You’d get on with The Minister, Wally, she like to do that sorta stuff (sees it as some sort of a challenge!) … and we only do GC …

    My pleasure, sreb …. anything else I can assist you with?

  128. TB Queensland permalink
    July 1, 2013 6:52 pm

    CU? I much prefer FU … I can’t help thinking that it means so much more as an acronym … 🙂

  129. Dianne permalink
    July 1, 2013 7:11 pm

    tb is the Bletchley Circle a serial or self contained episodes. Didn’t watch last night because it said Part 2. Thought it may have been beyond me to catch up. Glad it is not about spies. Can never follow spy stuff on screen or in books. I think people who can do maths understand spies and codes and encrypting.

  130. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 1, 2013 7:14 pm

    … She strikes me as a bitter old control freak.

    Semi-literate too – that’s how they prefer their contributors there.

  131. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 1, 2013 7:16 pm

    Endeavour seems quite good, if you happen to like well acted interesting British detective TV shows.

  132. July 1, 2013 7:17 pm

    Standards of literacy are overrated, little lone valued.

  133. July 1, 2013 7:18 pm

    I’ve come by Longmire.

  134. IPA permalink
    July 1, 2013 7:29 pm

    😯

  135. egg permalink
    July 1, 2013 8:02 pm

    ‘The Bletchley Circle and some good TV viewing just lately …’

    On your recommendation I watched it and was very impressed, at one stage it was so tense I had to leave the room.

    4 stars

  136. egg permalink
    July 1, 2013 8:34 pm

    Scaper has thrown down the gauntlet, wish they would let me through the door so I could sort him out. TB its up to you.

    I’ll get the popcorn and wait here.

  137. July 1, 2013 8:49 pm

    scaper is unhinged.

  138. July 1, 2013 9:54 pm

    As predicted this morning 2 of my wholesalers are uping prices 10% I heard today.
    High volume imports are the first to be effected.
    Expect the flow on to retail at the tills in the next month or so.
    This is only day one, you can expect another 5% soon after if the AUD doesn’t bounce.
    If you thinking about buying… say a TV now might be a good time, the only way it up.

  139. Fucked Up permalink
    July 1, 2013 10:23 pm

    So your wholesaler a must be flying shit in for it (whatever it is) to go up that quickly.

    Most trade is conducted via a Letter of Credit whereby the stock won’t arrive at higher prices for weeks.

    I think they might be having a lend of you Outlander.

    Tell them you might shop around for a while

  140. Fucked Up permalink
    July 1, 2013 10:24 pm

    If you can of course

  141. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 2, 2013 12:47 am

    Unhinged seems too kind. But he does fit in with the crowd.

  142. public toilet permalink
    July 2, 2013 7:11 am

    Hilarious, pull the chain, watch the monkey dance.

    Walter Mitty, has self control issues. Witness how emotional he gets with people who ridicule him on the internet!

    More later on his baseless.

  143. public toilet permalink
    July 2, 2013 7:12 am

    Baseless, incorrect assertions & veiled threats.

  144. egg permalink
    July 2, 2013 7:49 am

    ‘MORE than $100 billion of federal investment in nation-building projects, such as the National Broadband Network, clean energy programs and other initiatives, would be overhauled under a reform blueprint to make Australia a competitive player in the Asian century.

    ‘The seven-point reform plan – to be released by Infrastructure Australia today and obtained by The Australian – calls on Canberra to roll over the mishmash of investment sources into a single national infrastructure fund because “Australia cannot afford to invest in the wrong projects” and only projects that generate positive economic returns should get taxpayer money.’

    Annabel Hepworth in the Oz

  145. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2013 9:27 am

    “Will the army step up again”

    Well guess what … seems they did … 😆

    http://www.news.com.au/world-news/brekkie-wrap-egyptian-army-delivers-ultimatum-aussie-simon-gerrans-wins-tour-de-france-stage/story-fndir2ev-1226672882225

  146. egg permalink
    July 2, 2013 10:40 am

    The unhinged individual at teh caf has named Albo as the individual who occasionally needs a massage.

  147. DefamaterDefecater permalink
    July 2, 2013 11:29 am

    Thanks for the heads up. A full copy of that thread has been taken. Perhaps I will forward it on to the MPs electoral office in case he wants to take legal action against the blog owner. I’m sure the MP in question would like somewhere to live whilst in Canberra. One cant own too many houses.

    Blog owners need to be aware they are operating on a carriage service and the laws of defamation do apply to them. Many sleepless nights will lay ahead for the blog owner

  148. July 2, 2013 11:40 am

    “Blog owners need to be aware they are operating on a carriage service and the laws of defamation do apply to them. Many sleepless nights will lay ahead for the blog owner”

    Oh, you mean, teh blog owner at teh other place….

  149. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 2, 2013 12:09 pm

    DD seems nice

    I think that’s what he meant reb.

    If you take a look at what the Great Unhinged scaper posted I’d be shitting myself if I was an ex Canberra Public Servant allowing that to be posted.

    Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark

    LOL

  150. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 2, 2013 12:14 pm

    Scaper’s comment. See it whilst you still can

    http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/phoney-news/#comment-156277

  151. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 2, 2013 12:17 pm

    Oooooops

    I meant this one

    http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/phoney-news/#comment-156232

  152. IPA permalink
    July 2, 2013 12:20 pm

    “laws of defamation do apply to them”.

    Maybe the (disappeared) comment was accurate. Truth is still a defence in defamation/libel case, isn’t it? 😉

  153. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 2, 2013 12:23 pm

    “A full copy of that thread has been taken. “

    What a hero.

    “Perhaps I will forward it on to the MPs electoral office”

    You are so powerful, all-knowing and all wise. Truly the interwebs is fortunate to have a vigilante like you policing the joint.

    You should also be aware that when hypocritical pollies bring defamation actions they may be exposed for what they really are and end up paying the other side’s costs as Craig Thomson (and the ALP who stumped up the cash) found out.

  154. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2013 12:33 pm

    Well the accuser has repeated the allegation with a nonchalant tilt at the legal windmill …

    Best of luck with that …

  155. public toilet permalink
    July 2, 2013 12:50 pm

    I’m sure Walter Mitty is far better qualified than a large media corporation’s legal department to decide upon the veracity of the accusation & whether to publish it or not.

    Based upon the inaccuracy of claims he’s made about me in the last day, I’d say he runs his mouth without engaging his brain.

    A couple of days after goading another commenter about his wife’s suicide, today he chides a different commenter for “bringing other bloggers family members into it”!

    The thick cunt inhabits a parallel universe & can’t control his aggressive impulses.

  156. public toilet permalink
    July 2, 2013 12:52 pm

    All with miglo’s unflinching ambivalence, apparently.

  157. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 2, 2013 1:01 pm

    Delusional seems too mild. But his mate posted as Daffy Duck for years, so I think he fits in over there.

  158. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 2, 2013 1:39 pm

    “Truth is still a defence in defamation/libel case, isn’t it?”

    The allegation needs to be in the Public Interest as well. Which sets it apart somewhat from the Thomson allegations as his involved someone elses money.

    A certain ex PS is gonna be financially toasted……………………LOL

    Especially when he has clearly seen the allegation and left it up on his Blog. Its still there now.

  159. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 2, 2013 1:40 pm

    In fact CW has just become a slanging match. They’ve completely unhinged themselves following Julia’s downfall

  160. egg permalink
    July 2, 2013 1:44 pm

    ‘Lewis is also a foundation member of the House Howlers – the Canberra Press Gallery’s own choir whose crude attempts at political satire have thus far failed to draw any legal writs.’

    The Punch

  161. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2013 1:54 pm

    In fact CW has just become a slanging match

    Yeah, its become play yard childish insult stuff with little substance … more quantity than quality …

    Just finished watching the Foxtel doco The Battle of Long Tan … recommended if you are interested in military history …

    … there is an earlier doco but this is much better …

    … I’ll be visiting Long Tan Cross next year …

    … you can watch it here …

  162. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 2, 2013 2:27 pm

    It’s so embarrassing for CW, they actually need scaper.

    It’s a place that avoids discussion about policy, they prefer the daily politics machinations, and need scaper as he will always provide unintelligent foil for unintelligent contributors.

  163. July 2, 2013 2:33 pm

    Speaking of unintelligent…

    Tonight on 7:30 reportland, Leigh Sales interviews Joe Hockey

  164. July 2, 2013 3:53 pm

    New stats:

    59.2% youth unemployment in Greece. 56.4% in Spain.

  165. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 2, 2013 3:57 pm

    The Café is reaching for its intellectual heights today with pearls of wisdom like this………………………

    “your just a smart arse piece of shit , why don’t you crawl back up the anus where you came from.”

    ROFLMAO

  166. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:01 pm

    I do think Hockey has improved somewhat. My goodness he really had to. He had absolutely no idea and was far too loose with his language. Words like “audit” come to mind.

    I’d suspect that if they win government Abbott will ditch Robb and put Arthur Sinodinos in charge of Finance.

    On the ALP side I wonder if a good performer in Andrew Leigh was ditched by Rudd or he just refused to work with Rudd ???????????????????

  167. July 2, 2013 4:10 pm

    “The Café is reaching for its intellectual heights today with pearls of wisdom like this…”

    It sounds like they’re trying to copy our “successful formula”….

  168. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:13 pm

    “It sounds like they’re trying to copy our “successful formula”….”

    Yes it does.

    We really need our own home grown version of Catching Up…………..

    Oh that’s right I forgot…………………………..we’ve got TB

  169. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:16 pm

    59.2% youth unemployment in Greece. 56.4% in Spain.

    very, very dangerous news!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “your just a smart arse piece of shit , why don’t you crawl back up the anus where you came from.”

    I thought you were banned, Wally? 😆

  170. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:17 pm

    Oh that’s right I forgot…………………………..we’ve got TB

    Wally, “your just a smart arse piece of shit , why don’t you crawl back up the anus where you came from.”

    😛

  171. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:21 pm

    LOL

  172. egg permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:23 pm

    The spirit is infectious.

  173. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:23 pm

    “59.2% youth unemployment in Greece. 56.4% in Spain.”

    Well thats good news

    At least 40% are now working

  174. July 2, 2013 4:24 pm

    “Oh that’s right I forgot…………………………..we’ve got TB”

    😆

  175. egg permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:27 pm

    ‘59.2% youth unemployment in Greece. 56.4% in Spain.
    very, very dangerous news!’

    And Marine le Penn wants to bring back the franc and breakup the Euro.

  176. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:27 pm

    At least 40% are now working

    mmmm its the idle hands I’d be bothered about …

    … when people here murmur sinister words about an increase in the employment from 5.4 to 5.5 I say well that means 94.5% are working but I don’t think it works with 56.4% 😯

    When does the age of “youth” end 20? 21?

  177. Scaper's Sauce permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:33 pm

    The story may also be on a more widely read, even less credible blog.

    http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/03/why-i-think-the-anthony-albanese-true-thai-massage-story-is-important-and-newsworthy.html

  178. egg permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:39 pm

    Yeah that makes sense.

  179. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2013 4:53 pm

    From Smith’s “account” …

    I write chronologically and in a form that’s more like a young police constable’s statement …

    ya can say that again … how long did he survive in the cop shop?

  180. July 2, 2013 6:18 pm

    OK, so this is purely to correct the ledger & expose Walter as the fabricating, uninformed, specualting, angry, unstable, nasty, incorrect, desperate, self adulating, craving for affirmation rockshifter that he is.

    He made a few pointed comments in my general direction at Cafe Slop last night. On the unlikely off-chance that any of the dribblers followed his link to here to see what an evil “death metal freak” I am, allow me to retort.
    That said, the longer term contributors there who are familiar with my blog presence are entirely aware of scaper’s rabid & vapid commenting history across a spectrum of blogs where he strangely indulges in self promotion via mistruth; most of which, to his rue, is roundly ignored & seldom believed or cheered.

    He is a pest, like the buzzing of flies in Crapperville to discerning readers. He tries to be a blog bully, threatening across the ether; sometimes even showing up on the doorstep of a blog acquaintance. He calls people soft or cowardly, while antagonising them from afar, behind his screen. He relates stories of him bashing people throughout his life; even today. Although they are so ‘hollywood’ as to be dismissed as the stuff of fantasy or parody. Perhaps it is his ‘marshall arts’ (sic) that is supposed to frighten with words, ‘little lone’ (sic) his canny grasp of wit & intimidatory bumbling.

    So, to address his ridiculous fancies…

    “Should have stopped off in his little toilet town on my way back from Perth but is the softy worth it?”

    Scaper, has demonstrated, numerous times, that he can’t get within 50Km of working out what town I live in.
    Is he going to abuse every person in a 100km radius that lives in a church on the off chance that it might be me? Which segues into…

    “What is really a hoot? The death metal freak rents out a church to live in.”

    Well, that’s just plain wrong. I don’t live in a church & never have. His poor memory & comprehension is once again on display. I do not rent, haven’t for about 15 years; I have a small mortgage. I live in an ‘unconventional house’ which people familiar with me will know about. I’m not going into detail, because the nutcase has already demonstrated his willingness to extrapolate misinformation from the tiniest morsels I post. Scaper, you need to know, I have no fear of you whatsoever, but my family are out of bounds, cunt .
    I’m actually proud to be death metal.

    “Left a trail of his type bruised and battered on my life journey. Toilet trash is all ring no hardness! No wonder he is married to missy KY.”

    OK, so he’s never met or seen me, but he knows he has my measure. Much like the rest of his blogging output; pure fantasy.
    I’m confident that I’m considerably younger, stronger, taller & wouldn’t lift a finger against him. He is a deranged, furious pest.
    But he should be careful, because often times in this life, it ain’t about what you know, it’s who you know; and I don’t exist in isolation.
    People who really mean you harm, and have the sack to see it done, don’t go telegraphing their intentions & hatred on blogs, a public medium, for many years …only softheaded people impressed by their own output do dumbass shit like that.

    Also, I’m not married, never have been, but have a 13yo daughter & have been engaged to my partner, her mother, for about 14+ years.

    I could go on & on, but you get the picture…scaper is a deranged fucktard.

  181. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2013 6:28 pm

    Actually I agree, Toillette, and I was stupid enough (in my early nposting days) to invite it into my home … BTW … love the strikeout effect … I have a bikie mate (ex president – lived next door) … who enjoyed your kinda “music” … that’s how I met the big hairy bastard … complaining about his music!!! Luckily he was a good guy … asked me in for a beer!!!

    I’m baffled as to why Migs/Min let him post … maybe I just don’t get blog marketing or somfink?

  182. July 2, 2013 6:34 pm

    “scaper is a deranged fucktard.”

    He certainly displays a lot of anger. His attempts to portray himself as some sort of rich and powerful individual is really quite sad. I get the feeling that he must be be a very unhappy individual who’s angry with the cards he’s been dealt, the world, and everyone else in it.

    It’s no wonder he’s *ahem* “self-employed,” he would be unemployable in the private sector.

  183. July 2, 2013 6:35 pm

    “I’m baffled as to why Migs/Min let him post …”

    Me too..

    Maybe it’s because he hates all of us here, so that means he must therefore be a “friend” of the cafe…?

  184. July 2, 2013 6:36 pm

    Or maybe it’s just because teh cafe has become a blog that has “lost its way”..

  185. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2013 6:42 pm

    Maybe it’s because he hates all of us here, so that means he must therefore be a “friend” of the cafe…?

    Well there’s no “mutual” friendship for it from the posters I respect at CW …

  186. July 2, 2013 6:50 pm

    Maybe WordPress has a limit on the amount of people that can be banned, and the cafe has reached it?

    That would make sense… 😆

  187. July 2, 2013 7:31 pm

    “Maybe it’s because he hates all of us here, so that means he must therefore be a “friend” of the cafe…?

    Well there’s no “mutual” friendship for it from the posters I respect at CW …”

    Honestly, I think that that’s exactly what it is.

    The few longterm, credible commenters there have been on that fuckwit’s case since he was here/there/anywhere…

    A lot of them have eaten some humble Ruddpie in the last week or so, too.

  188. egg permalink
    July 2, 2013 7:36 pm

    Massive Spray has returned after six months absence and given up on Labor after they knifed Julia.

    There was a lot of informal voting at the last election and this trend may continue.

  189. Davide permalink
    July 2, 2013 8:20 pm

    “Maybe it’s because he hates all of us here, so that means he must therefore be a “friend” of the cafe…?”

    Or because they think that the “fabricating, uninformed, specualting, angry, unstable, nasty, incorrect, desperate, self adulating, craving for affirmation rockshifter” may one day actually get some inside knowledge that may be useful to them?

    Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.

  190. TB Queensland permalink
    July 2, 2013 8:35 pm

    Or because they think that the … rockshifter” may one day actually get some inside knowledge that may be useful to them?

    All the more reason to get rid of it … Divide 🙄

    ‘Cause the inside knowledge will be about THEM! And used against THEM!

    And we know it knows nothing … it makes shite up … Divide

    Ignorance Innocence is bliss …

  191. July 2, 2013 8:46 pm

    Zyklon-B…

  192. July 2, 2013 8:47 pm

    ” Leigh Sales interviews Joe Hockey ‘ ‘
    He whined so much he could have been mistaken for Mr-Poodle.

  193. egg permalink
    July 2, 2013 9:17 pm

    ‘Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.’

    Machiavelli in “The Prince”

    It makes good sense to know your enemy well.

  194. egg permalink
    July 2, 2013 9:42 pm

    A fabulous woman returns to the fray….

    ‘Chile’s former leader Michelle Bachelet steamed toward another presidential bid on Sunday with a lopsided primary win that prompted her centre-left rivals to concede early in the evening and vow to support her in the November election.’

    Guardian

  195. egg permalink
    July 2, 2013 10:29 pm

    Albo, the PM’s right hand, says gay marriage on Labor’s agenda.

  196. July 3, 2013 12:40 am

    No surprise there egg.
    Mr-Rabbit`s Lesbian sister was on sbs1 Last weekend claiming Mr-Rabbit `really-struggled` with his No-Vote on gay-marriage, it all sounded like a lot of put-on crap and `gay-baiting` for the up-coming election. l don`t believe the duopoly on the personal Liberty`s front as both Leaders are dog-botherers. You can believe they have been touched by the hand of dog and received `wisdom` and a grip on reality if you want, but l don`t.

  197. egg permalink
    July 3, 2013 7:24 am

    Political expediency in an election year… unheard of.

  198. egg permalink
    July 3, 2013 7:59 am

    Matt Wade makes shit up….

    ‘International trends suggest carbon pricing won’t be dropping off Australia’s political agenda any time soon. Even if the carbon tax is repealed after a double dissolution in 2014 or 2015, carbon pricing is bound to be a big issue at the subsequent election. That will make it five carbon price polls in a row.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/poll-after-poll-the-hot-air-persists-20130702-2p9ta.html#ixzz2Xvak17MD

  199. egg permalink
    July 3, 2013 8:21 am

    Groupthink…..

    ‘What’s especially interesting to me is that it only took one “partner” who spoke the truth, to break the group effect. This is good news for the brave skeptical commenters who venture to sites and media-outlets where groupthink is at it’s most nakedly noxious. It’s also why the one person that speaks up to defend a victim can deflate the bully.’

    Jonova

  200. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 3, 2013 8:48 am

    “He made a few pointed comments in my general direction at Cafe Slop last night.”

    “Cafe Slop”………………….LOL

    “His attempts to portray himself as some sort of rich and powerful individual is really quite sad………….”

    Sound like moi……………..except the “powerful” and “sad” bit……………………….actually even the “Rich” bit a bit wrong since I bought into Newcrest………………LOL

  201. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 3, 2013 9:33 am

    And the Wars upon business continues……………..
    ***************************************************************************************
    From the Australian

    UNIONS will seek to extend full adult pay rates to teenage workers across the economy if a retail industry test case before the Fair Work Commission is successful.

    The commission’s full bench yesterday started hearing a case brought on by the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees Association that seeks to ensure 20-year-olds covered by the general retail award receive the full adult rate of pay taking effect once an employee reaches 21.

    If the SDA is successful, 20-year-old retail workers would have their rate increased from $16.19 an hour to $17.98 and their weekly pay packet lifted from $615 to $683.

    SDA national secretary Joe de Bruyn told The Australian that if the case was won other unions would take action to ensure young people covered by different awards were paid the full adult rate of pay.

    “That must apply across the board,” he said. “There can’t be exceptions. So, in due course, in all other industries where the adult rate does not already apply, it would apply there.”

    He confirmed the SDA would seek to ensure that 18 and 19-year-olds covered by the general retail award were moved on to the full adult rate.

    “If we won it in the retail award we would be looking to apply it in the fast-food award and the pharmacy award and the other awards in which we have a say,” Mr de Bruyn said.

    “People aged 18, 19 and 20 – who are adults for all purposes in society other than at the workplace – ought to be able to get the adult rate.”

    The case will run all week before returning at a later date to hear further witness evidence.

    Mr de Bruyn said there were about 120,000 people aged 18 to 20 in the retail sector who may be directly or indirectly affected by the decision.

    The case has the backing of other unions representing large numbers of young workers, such as the Australian Manufacturing Workers Union, which has advocated for young adult workers to be shifted on to full adult rates.

    AMWU national president Andrew Dettmer yesterday backed the SDA case and said his union had argued before the full bench earlier this year for 20-year-old apprentices to be paid at the full adult rate under the manufacturing award.

    “On this policy, as on many others, we are completely consistent and wanting to ensure that young people – treated as adults for every other purpose – actually receive adult rates of pay,” he said. “Part of our suite of issues is the commencement of the adult rate at the age of 20.”

    The retail and hospitality industries are the most exposed to any erosion of youth wages. Australian Bureau of Statistics figures show that, of the 687,000 people in the workforce aged under 20 years, 211,000 are in retail while 205,000 are in hospitality. Other big employers of young workers are the construction sector with 44,000 and manufacturing with 34,000.

    Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry chief executive Peter Anderson warned that if the SDA was successful the Fair Work Commission would be setting a damaging economic precedent.

    “The case is concerning enough for the retail industry because of the significant entry point that retailers provide for young people into the world of work,” Mr Anderson said. “The prospect that this case could flow into other service industries cannot be dismissed even though the consequences of doing so don’t bear thinking about.”

    Australian Retailers Association executive director Russell Zimmerman said retailers were already struggling to manage the recent minimum wage increase, the hike in Saturday and Sunday penalty rates and the superannuation guarantee increase.

    “The problem for us is that this is the thin edge of the wedge,” he said. “Where does it stop? They won’t stop at 20. They’ll go to 18-year-olds and try and get 18-year-olds back on to an adult wage as well.

    “It would set a precedent. You would very quickly see it happen. You would very quickly see applications for that to happen.”

    Australian Industry Group industrial relations director Stephen Smith said the full bench needed to keep in mind the SDA application had been made with the intention of “achieving a much bigger outcome”.

    “The history (of junior pay rates) goes back to 1910 when they started talking about rates for boys or youths,” Mr Smith said. “There was a major inquiry by the Australian Industrial Relations Commission in 1998 into junior rates and the outcome of the inquiry is that there would be many negative consequences from the proposal that they are now pressing.

    “If junior employees are to be paid the adult wage that will have a negative impact on junior employees as well as the whole community.”

  202. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 3, 2013 12:11 pm

    Getting rid of junior rates in retail is just dumb. Hands up everyone who wants to pay more for their groceries etc because a union wants part time school kids to be paid more?

    Dumb, but the people who came up with this will probably be in parliament in a few months.

  203. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 3, 2013 12:35 pm

    Yep

    Retailers have no incentive to hire teenagers if this goes through. May as well just hire experienced staff.

    60% Youth Unemployment here we come

  204. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 3, 2013 12:50 pm

    Retail languishes, even when the economy was growing, retail was in reverse.

    Now this union, backed by the ACTU, wants to load it up with higher costs. This is yet more evidence that unions don’t have any interest in the economics of the real world.

  205. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2013 12:55 pm

    Dumb, but the people who came up with this will probably be in parliament in a few months.

    You mean the 20 yo “Milk Kart Kids” in the Liberal Party?

    May as well just hire experienced staff.

    I wish they would … how does age make you “more competent” … that’s the same argument as teachers getting better if you pay them more money …

    A much fairer way would be to pay based upon competence and capability …

    Example: An 18 yo (adult??) who has worked p/time in the shop since she was 15 … works alongside a 21 yo who has just been employed and never worked in that particular type of retail before … one gets more than the other but has less skill … fair?

    More to this than cheap labour …

  206. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2013 12:57 pm

    This is yet more evidence that unions don’t have any interest in the economics of the real world.

    And those arguing that point choose to ignore the massive mark-ups that retailers apply …

  207. July 3, 2013 1:04 pm

    Tonight on 730 reportland – “The Ruddmeister!”

  208. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 3, 2013 1:09 pm

    TB, there aren’t too many competencies involved in running groceries over a scanner and putting stuff in a plastic bag.

    That’s the type of work that part time school kids get.

    Why on earth this would need to be overlaid with a bureaucratic competency assessment, is beyond me.

  209. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 3, 2013 1:13 pm

    Kev on 730! He’ll have that nice Leigh Sales eating out of his hand.

    She’ll probably give him similar treatment that Kerry O’Brien used to give Gillard ‘Oh, Kerry…how could you say that… *flutter*

  210. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 3, 2013 1:26 pm

    “The problem for us is that this is the thin edge of the wedge,” he said. “Where does it stop? They won’t stop at 20. They’ll go to 18-year-olds and try and get 18-year-olds back on to an adult wage as well.”

    I know that there are some real slippery slopes out there, but this has to be the dumbest argument of all. I don’t see how a 20yo in retail is, in general, less productive than an adult. This is just pure exploitation.

  211. Dianne permalink
    July 3, 2013 1:46 pm

    I’ m with you TB. On while we are on the subject of retail could someone explain to me that high end clothing brands made in sweat shops are still able to big prices on their products.

  212. Dianne permalink
    July 3, 2013 1:47 pm

    ‘that’ should read ‘how’

  213. Dianne permalink
    July 3, 2013 1:48 pm

    And there should be a ‘put’. In front of big. Shouldn’t have started on the sherry so early.

  214. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 3, 2013 2:08 pm

    High end clothing gets high prices because people feel better about wearing it. They pay more for brand, unique design and the experience of going into an exclusive boutique. None of those things is attributable to the labour component of the item.

  215. Dianne permalink
    July 3, 2013 2:17 pm

    I feared as much. It is a disgrace and we are mugs.

  216. Dianne permalink
    July 3, 2013 2:19 pm

    Actually I have been spared the desire for high end. I love picturesque tat.

  217. July 3, 2013 2:20 pm

    Actually I have been spared the desire for high end.

    So has TB… His favourite “Mens Outfitters” is Lowes! 🙂

    “I love picturesque tat.”

    What even is that….??

  218. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 3, 2013 2:21 pm

    It isn’t simply a ‘thin end of the wedge’ argument SB, and people aren’t getting ripped off.

    Retail is in the doldrums, and all this claim does is increase cost with no corresponding offset. Most of the beneficiaries will be students, who can always do with a few extra $, but not at the expense of a viable employer.

  219. Dianne permalink
    July 3, 2013 2:31 pm

    That is a female thing Reb.

  220. Dianne permalink
    July 3, 2013 2:36 pm

    Reb, think tatty. An old tin, a twisted key, plastic beads, a jumper with a hole. Things most throw out. However a few mad people like myself find beauty in such things.I have a small room in my house covered in ‘picturesque tat’. You have to be selective.

  221. July 3, 2013 2:39 pm

    “You have to be selective.”

    That certainly sounds like the key consideration.

    My mum dresses in that sort of style though… Eclectic things from Op shops, anything made from linen, beads, silver, old bits of string…

  222. Dianne permalink
    July 3, 2013 2:44 pm

    That’s it Reb. I know what beats in your mum’s heart. The world provides an endless source of wonder and beauty for bower birds.

  223. July 3, 2013 2:49 pm

    My mum’s big on recycling Dianne, making things from old bits of wrought iron, collecting old glass jars, free range eggs etc.

    She still writes with a pencil (refuses to use a ballpoint or ink)…

    (I reckon it’s so that she can recycle greeting cards, just quietly). She also recycles wrapping paper!

  224. egg permalink
    July 3, 2013 2:53 pm

    It could be a generational thing.

  225. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 3, 2013 2:54 pm

    “Retail is in the doldrums, and all this claim does is increase cost with no corresponding offset. Most of the beneficiaries will be students, who can always do with a few extra $, but not at the expense of a viable employer.”

    Cry me a river. Retail would probably boom if we re-introduced slavery, no?

    I get that 17 & 18 year olds are paid less but I don’t see it with 20 year olds.

    My youngest is 17 and manages a fashion store on Saturday. She gets less per hour than some of the workers she supervises. In this case I don’t mind so much as she is getting great experience which is more important than the money. But why should be still be getting less when she is 20? ( She is thinking of a career in retail, but it seems to be a dying business to me).

  226. Dianne permalink
    July 3, 2013 3:02 pm

    I agree with you too Splatter. And Reb … I do all those things apart from recycling wrought iron. I always have. I have a little jar of my children’s teeth and every so often I will open a little container and find a perfectly mummified Christmas beetle still it’s enamel-like sheen.when my mum left the family home I trawled the ‘rubbish’ heap on the nature strip and carried off old battered cake tins and a wire cake tray of deformed twists. Memories and smells from childhood. I think I may perplex my husband.

  227. Dianne permalink
    July 3, 2013 3:03 pm

    still with its

  228. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2013 3:07 pm

    Eclectic things from Op shops

    And wot’s wrong with Op shops, wee Jummy!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Um … 18 yo are adults, sb 😉

    The times have changed for the old Victorian retail model …

  229. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2013 3:09 pm

    I think I may perplex my husband.

    You’d certainly perplex me … Di … 😯

  230. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 3, 2013 3:11 pm

    At 17 I’m not surprised your daughter is paid less than some of those (presumably adults) she supervises.

    I think these are the types of claims unions make when they’ve nothing else to do. It’s a nil sum game with them.

  231. Dianne permalink
    July 3, 2013 3:17 pm

    Men are easily perplexed tee bee. Love that beeFace. Where do you find them. My I pad perplexes me.

  232. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 3, 2013 3:56 pm

    “At 17 I’m not surprised your daughter is paid less than some of those (presumably adults) she supervises.”

    Next it will be the 16 year old burger flippers at Maccas

  233. Splatterbottom permalink
    July 3, 2013 4:17 pm

    I wasn’t complaining about the 17yo getting less (if you read what I said). But I don’t see why she should still be getting less at 20.

    I think it is great that young ‘uns can get experience, and it is reasonable to pay them less. But once they have the experience I don’t see why the employer can wring 2 or 3 more years out of them at low wages when they are as good as if not better than “adults”.

    Macca’s is a great system for learning about work and responsibility. It should be compulsory.

  234. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2013 4:19 pm

    For all the whingers – ToM & Wally in particular – the union is taking the wages issue in steps 21 to 20 then to 19 and stopping at 18 – ADULT age …

    Earn or learn … was introduced in 2010 or 11 if I remember …
    Why people are paid by “age” is just as baffling to me as why kids are taught by “age” (rather than ability, in both instances) …

  235. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2013 4:25 pm

    I think it is great that young ‘uns can get experience, and it is reasonable to pay them less.

    Couldn’t agree more, sb … I did the last five year apprenticeship in Queensland … and we were paid a pittance BUT there was learning and a trade wage at the end of it …

    Macca’s is a great system for learning about work and responsibility. It should be compulsory.

    One of the great things about Macca’s is their training system – best in the world for newstarters – I’ve been saying it for years … the 15 yo sitting in my office at his grandma’s computer will tell you that … well known in the training industry … and competency based of course!

  236. July 3, 2013 4:25 pm

    Meanwhile down at Cafe Hellhole, the lovestruck lovebird is bemoaning how “sad”it is that the hypochondriac is treated so unfairly by this place..

    🙄

  237. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2013 4:32 pm

    Should be called the Fork’n’Knife ..,

  238. July 3, 2013 4:42 pm

    Don’t be cheeky
    We’re not so creaky
    We share a bong
    With some fine aged Dong
    And a helping of Cock-A-Leekie

  239. July 3, 2013 4:42 pm

    Here’s an interesting and concise piece on the situation in Egypt…

    http://www.news.com.au/world-news/middle-east/egypt-explained-what-is-going-on/story-fnh81ifq-1226673706249

  240. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 3, 2013 5:20 pm

    “…………..the lovestruck lovebird is bemoaning how “sad”it is that the hypochondriac is treated so unfairly by this place..”

    LOL

    Frankly I don’t give a ratsarse what she thinks.

  241. Evil Walrus permalink
    July 3, 2013 5:39 pm

    Mr Dickhead Rudd is off to see Indonesian President Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Yoko Ono tomorrow.

    Poor bastard……………..

  242. TB Queensland permalink
    July 3, 2013 5:47 pm

    Poor bastard……………..

    Which one … ?

  243. July 3, 2013 6:06 pm

    “Frankly I don’t give a ratsarse what she thinks.”

    Me neither, but I do find the way in which they freely dish out personal abuse at that place, and then switch to a “persecuted victim complex” when they cop some in return incredibly entertaining..! 🙂

  244. egg permalink
    July 3, 2013 8:48 pm

    Poor choice of words from Glenn…

    ‘With just six words – “deliberated for a very long time” – Reserve Bank governor Glenn Stevens has sent the Australian dollar tumbling.

    ‘The currency, already on a downward spiral over the past two months, lost half a cent following Mr Stevens’ comments today about the Reserve Bank’s decision on interest rates yesterday. It reflected how sensitive financial markets were to any remarks about the embattled currency, analysts said.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/stevens-puts-dollar-in-tailspin-20130703-2pann.html#ixzz2XyhWkkGy

  245. egg permalink
    July 6, 2013 8:21 am

    If you are a dog botherer then we are alone in the universe, but mathematically this seems highly unlikely.

    ‘A new study by the University of Chicago and Northwestern University said that the Milky Way alone could contain 60 billion planets orbiting red dwarf stars that could support life.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2356807/Our-galaxy-contain-60-BILLION-alien-planets-capable-supporting-life–double-number-thought-before.html#ixzz2YDDBWwnP
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  246. Dianne permalink
    July 6, 2013 8:30 am

    Nah Egg believers have always looked at the stars. Galileo and Copernicus pushed the boundaries and were howled down. Mmmmmm. Climate change?

    Going off to get my helmet.

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