Kevin Rudd and the Labor Party have experimented with a radical new approach to its election campaign strategy that’s unprecedented in Australian Politics – telling the truth!
It’s a high-risk strategy, but will it work?
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That ad hit the mark. The graphics matched the words seamlessly. Terrific. The PM is in a blue tie too. Truth is always a winner.
‘It’s a high-risk strategy, but will it work?’
No harm telling the electorate the troof when it suits, on boats and the economy, but he’ll avoid talking about CC if possible.
I prefer the truth. Always. It’s the only way to be in a position to have an informed opinion or make an informed decision.
I’m not sure that everyone prefers/can handle the truth though.
You are right Peterp. Most of us fib to ourselves all the time.
Abbott must be furious… What possible three-word-slogan can he possibly come up with to counter this?
Indeed Reb that is why that ad is so good. Can’t argue with it. No spin. Just the facts. Truth is powerful.
Agreed Dianne.. 🙂
I hope it makes Abbott’s head explode!
Naturally, there are a range of points that could be made to counter this spin, but I’ll refrain because I’m now in Rudd’s corner.
chuckle
Just because we are not up to our necks in debt like some other countries does not mean that we can be complacent about the debt that we have, all due to Labor’s woeful ability to manage anything.
The argument being made by Rudd here is most disingenuous and I think that the voters who matter (rather than the rusted on minions of the Left here) will not be reassured by this piece of Labor spin any more than they were reassured by Wayne Swan making precisely the same argument on numerous occasions. Saying that our debt is small compared to the near bankrupt is meaningless because they too started out with small levels of debt but in attention let it grow and grow until it became the monsters that threaten all of them.
Your argument only makes sense Iain if you have bought the pumped up argument that Australia is groaning with debt. I wish I were rusted-on. It makes life much more simple.
“Just because…”
Oh, get a job. 🙄
Hear Hear!!!
“rusted on minions of the Left ”
And whom would you be referring to?…YomM?! 😯
*guffaw…
The minions are here…
http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/
And here…
http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/
And, absolutely congealed, here…
http://theaimn.com/
And no amount of political spin can change that… I love it, I especially like economic illiterates who use words like monster and can’t manage in providing no point other than rust. The truth is the Wd40 that lubricates reality, no slogans or spin will save the sinking ship of fools that is the funeral party. RUDD IS REALITY.. RUDD Will Rid us of the scurge that is unworthy Abbot.
Bloody phone.. Nice metaphoric slip though.. Fiberal not funeral.
I prefer the truth.
So do I, Toillette, you don’t have to keep making other lies up to support the original lie aor try to remember what the lie was … people who er, um, and generally waste time trying to remember are usually very obvious … either that or they simply dry up and say nothing … that reminds me of someone in politics in Oz?
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I see that, IH, doesn’t understand “good” debt and “bad” debt … how you need to invest to grow to make more money* … but he probably doesn’t understand how mortgages work either …
… just what do you do all day, IH?
If you had ever been invited to a BBQ or dinner you’d find that the cost of living and mortgages has been a favourite topic for decades …
*a simple analogy (well fact actually) … mines can get stuff out of the ground quicker than they can shift it to ports and ports can’t stick it on ships as quick as it can be delivered … we didn’t spend enough on infrastructure – particularly when Tip Custard was idly counting the money rolling into the coffers … had they spent some we would have made more money – spend on infrastructure … booms don’t just stop … there like sales in the shops … they just keep coming … and everyone seems to forget that we are still suffering a Global Financial Crisis …
Analogy 2
If you want a job and you live 40km from work … you’ll need a car to get there but you have no money … you might need to borrow $10,000 to buy a car to earn $100,000pa … its is not rocket science!
Our great leader is in Van Dieman’s land … looks good.
Reb
I have a job, I work for the family.
Dianne
I am not arguing that Australia is “groaning under crippling debt” my point is that the beginning of a very bad situation is being indifferent to debt just as the government have begun to do under the Labor government.
toiletpeterpiddlewon’tsavethem
I agree that the residents of the places you cite are far more miniony than those that frequent this page (with the exception of Ricky who is clearly a blow in ).
Ricky
Maaate!
You sound so desperate, so hoping that by saying something often enough that it will be made manifest. But most amusing is the way that you have seamlessly switched to Rudd while hoping that everyone will forget how loudly you sung the virtues of Gillard. Yours is the voice of the unthinking ideologue and thus everything you say can safely be ignored.
“Yours is the voice of the unthinking ideologue and thus everything you say can safely be ignored.”
Oh the irony….. 😆
TB
I do understand the concepts you mention, and as my mortgage has been paid off (that is a great liberation for the soul) and most of my friends are likewise as well positioned the topics of discussion at social events are not how difficult it is the service the debt on the McMansion. That said I have a very good grip on the merits of considered investment whcih is why I invested a modest inheritance in paying off the house so that our cost of living would be lessened enough for us to live well on a modest income.
Reb
Maaaate……………………..
Desperate?..Oh the irony…. 🙂
Reb
I have a job, I work for the family.
Fkn ‘ell he works for the Mafia (or the catliks – pretty much the same thing) … confirmation (hehe yeah luv puns) … I invested a modest inheritance … mmmmm?
I paid my mortgage off by working for fkn 45 years!
“he works for the Mafia”
LOL!
Handbag mafia.. 🙄 Sweet FA on a pension… Iron “y” man
TB &Reb
well if you believe that then maybe you had better be nicer 😉
Capiche ?
Now go forth and sin no more 😆
As for investing in the house TB wouldn’t you have done the same thing if you could have?
Ricky
You are angry about politics all of the time which is a sure sign of desperation by any measure.
… wouldn’t you have done the same thing if you could have?
No-one has/will ever give me anything, IH …
… even my godbothering, catlick sister stole money off my kids, who were entitled to my parents leavings … she had herself written into their wills even tho’ my two kids and her two kids were supposed to share …
But to settle yer conscious … both my kids were advised to pay the house as quickly as possible … one has and the other is pretty close … own ya home and it makes it harder for them Robber Barons to get ya!
BTW, I think you’ll find that some of us aren’t angry about politics, so much as concerned about, Abbott & The Acolytes, having a hit single sometime this year …
And Iain hall attacks as always ..you really are an asshole hall, a real nasty piece of work.. yeah depressed, fed up, heart broken, sick… and bored with asholes like you ..difference is pal I actually do gigs, charity, films, produce music and make people smile despite it all…as opposed to your irrelevance and insignificant life…I can honestly say what you think of me is none of my bussiness 🙄
Just the circle of life pal…
TB
Sorry to hear about your family disappointments, just because someone is family does not mean that they will treat you fairly,
I totally agree with that and its the advice my children will be getting when they get older (both are still at school)
Ricky
You really do run on hate don’t you? Every comment you post is full of spittle flecked venom either directed at the coalition or those who support them like yours truly. I find you hating me immensely amusing but a clear indictment of your feeble character.
Oh and your music is dreary and uninspiring to boot.
Inspiring music…
Such a deceitful add but typical for Labor.
Australia is a Federation so govt debt is composed of Federal, State and Local govt. While our Federal govt debt is low (thanks to Costello) total govt debt is about 30% of GDP not 10% and could easily double.
And the European countries almost certainly got into trouble because people like Rudd said debt was not a problem when it was low.
And look at what Labor did to Queensland
I would also like to know what our rate of increase in our debt is. We most probably have the fastest increase in the world. Lets hope Campbell Newman can gets Queenslands debt under control and get its credit rating back which it lost under Labor.
WE are now paying $10B/year interest on the debt Federal Labor has racked up since 2007. That’s a Gonski each year.
Lets hope Campbell Newman can gets Queenslands debt under control and get its credit rating back which it lost under Labor.
Using his slash and burn agenda, Campbell Newman is increasing the state’s gross debt to revenue ratio from 117% to 150%.
“Using his slash and burn agenda, Campbell Newman is increasing the state’s gross debt to revenue ratio from 117% to 150%.”
Queensland lost its credit rating during the biggest mining boom in Australian history and the mining boom took place in Queensland.
Other than personal abuse do you have any ideas as to how Queensland can get its credit rating back???
‘Mr Albanese’s main challenger for the seat of Grayndler, Greens candidate Hall Greenland, said Mr Albanese’s comments were his ‘‘usual election-time routine”.
“As the minister responsible for Sydney’s airport problems, he has had six years in the job and all that has happened is that aircraft noise and pollution have got worse over his inner-west electorate of Grayndler,’’ Mr Greenland said.
“His solution is not even on the runway, let alone taking off.’’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/second-airport-plan-a-beatup-to-win-election-20130726-2qp1v.html#ixzz2a8QTTRLA
Kneel, l reckon you`re wrong with Queensland. Mr-Rabbit is not a `vote`magnet. Voters tend to retain opposite State/Federal Govts. Look at NSW, they kept crap alp govts (while under John-W) so they didn`t double-down on teabags. Noddy won`t `attract` for Federal teabags, but neither will Mr-Rabbit. Qld`ers won`t want to double-down.
You didn’t answer the question. This is what Labor did to Queensland during the biggest mining boom in Australian history.
Any ideas as to how Queensland can get its credit rating back?? A downgraded credit rating means Queensland has to pay a higher interest rate on its borrowings.
Bowen has just dropped some bad economic news about ongoing deficits. Probably means the election will be later rather than sooner so people have a chance to forget.
Expect some incoherent spluttering from the opposition without any detail around how they would do it better.
“No politician is any longer interested in the question whether a measure is fit to produce the ends aimed at. What alone counts for him is whether the majority of the voters favor or reject it.” ~ Ludwig von Mises
Jack Lang put it colloquially. Always put your money on self interest. You know it is always trying. Often quoted. Very often correct.
Self interest drives the ‘lauded’ free market.
It is a double edged sword.
Yes. The old boarding house reach.
“What the doctrine of balancing budgets over a period of many years really means is this: As long as our own party is in office, we will enhance our popularity by reckless spending.” ~ Ludwig von Mises
“Probably means the election will be later rather than sooner so people have a chance to forget.”
Doubt it
Since the May Budget the deficits have blown out another $11Billion. What will it be like by November ?
splatter_ ‘ ‘ Probably means the election will be later rather than sooner ‘ ‘
*agree*
but from memory, they could only come forward about 2-weeks, or go back 9-weeks from Joolya`s date anyway, seems like much ado about very little really
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‘ ‘ Expect some incoherent spluttering from the opposition without any detail around how they would do it better.’ ‘
l agree splatter, and l don`t expect it to change either
“Please, my Leftie friends. On no possible definition does cutting someone’s tax rate constitutute ‘giving’ them money.” ~ Daniel Hannan
IPA you are so fucking stupid. Not taxing someone is giving them money. Didn’t you hear Obama? ‘If You’ve Got a Business, You Didn’t Build That’
The state owns everything. It does not matter that every cent they spend comes from private enterprise because without leftists private enterprise would be nothing! Just get on your knees and pay homage to the almighty state.
“Please, my Leftie friends. On no possible definition does cutting someone’s tax rate constitutute ‘giving’ them money.” ~ Daniel Hannan
Wrong!
What a stupid academic comment/quote
Governments don’t ‘give’ tax cuts.They ‘take’ less (or, usually, more) taxes.
*** TB, don`t be too hard on `osy` ***
*** he still has training wheels ***
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