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August 2, 2013

I am utterly disgusted right now.

The editorial team here at The Gutter Trash spend hours upon hours of our precious time tirelessly scouring the internet for immoral things to warn you about, and yet despite our thankless efforts I haven’t been able to find anything, so you’ll just have to talk amongst yourselves.

Good night.

 

 

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  1. egg permalink
    August 2, 2013 5:48 pm

    Friday Funny

    A seven year old boy was at the centre of a courtroom drama yesterday when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him.

    The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with the child custody law and regulations requiring that family unity be maintained to the degree possible.

    The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried out that they also beat him.

    After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him.

    After two recesses to check legal references and confer with child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the Australian Cricket team, whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone.

  2. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 2, 2013 5:50 pm

    The English are cheating to win our Ashes. The umpires are cheating. Khawaja was not out!!

    The only was Poms can win is by trying dubious umpiring decisions.

    OI!

  3. egg permalink
    August 2, 2013 6:38 pm

    Leaked Polling

    ‘If the Coalition wins the 14 Labor-held seats it is polling ahead of the government in, but loses the three LNP-held seats in which it trails, Tony Abbott would become prime minister with 86 seats in the House of Representatives, 10 more than he needs to form government. This scenario assumes that the Coalition wins the three independent-held seats of Lyne, New England and Fisher.’

    The Bolter

  4. August 2, 2013 6:53 pm

    Dumpty_ Mr-Rabbit has failed to make the transition from opposing negative to `prezedential` , it is now too late. He won`t make it.

    GO WATERMELON
    *
    ‘ Friday Funny ‘ Well done egg, very funny. 🙂

  5. August 2, 2013 7:11 pm

    “it is now too late. He won`t make it.

    Agreed. You can see it on his face. He knows it’s over.

  6. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 2, 2013 7:13 pm

    Once the campaign starts, people will hear plenty from Abbptt.

    They won’t like what they hear.

  7. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 2, 2013 7:25 pm

    “Once the campaign starts, people will hear plenty from Abbptt.
    They won’t like what they hear.”

    True dat! The Libs would deserve to govern if they actually stood for something. They don’t. They didn’t think about that when Gillard was around, but now they are without an answer to the most logical of questions: “What is it that you stand for?”

  8. August 2, 2013 7:36 pm

    “What is it that you stand for?”

    You’ll find yourself on the receiving end of a swift kick up of the arse from the velvet slipper wearing mob if you keep up that impertinent line of questioning.

    They’re born to rule you know, they don’t take kindly to having their entitlements challenged by mere plebs.

  9. egg permalink
    August 2, 2013 8:36 pm

    Sometimes the monk looks like Sinatra with a monkey on his back and I have no problem with his underdog status….

  10. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 2, 2013 9:12 pm

    Abbott looks more like Jerry Lewis than Frank Sinartra.

  11. egg permalink
    August 2, 2013 9:21 pm

    Either way, the monk will have your lad for lunch.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-02/climate-change-authority-wants-increase-in-carbon-target/4860276

  12. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 2, 2013 10:54 pm

    Rudd is hardly “my lad”, but in a contest between and Rudd/ALP and Abbott/Coalition, the ALP is quite a way in front.

    I’ll be casting my first formal vote for a decade.

  13. egg permalink
    August 3, 2013 6:40 am

    ‘I’ll be casting my first formal vote for a decade.’

    One of us is out of step …..at this stage I’m casting an informal vote because both leaders are brain dead.

  14. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 8:09 am

    No Egg they are not brain dead. That would excuse them. They are two manipulative men who set out to appeal to the very worst in all of us. Neither is a true leader. Judged by their words and actions both appear to be sly, brutal men. If this is not a true representation then why have they permitted themselves to be presented this way. Do they have no pride in self? One of the two will lose an election but both lost my respect a long time ago. I feel sorry for us all, including Tony Abbott and Kevin Rudd.

  15. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 8:26 am

    It must be the election date being called but I am feeling bolshie. And why not? Considering the lack of choice. Both men are black holes which pull in all light. They slam doors shut. They block and lock up. They shout No. They would send off warships in a trice just like others have and call it Patriotic. Oh sweet family men: beloved sons, husbands and fathers. What have we done to deserve you?

  16. egg permalink
    August 3, 2013 9:34 am

    September 7…. let the fight begin!

  17. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 9:37 am

    I would prefer to be inspired. Far more powerful than biff.

  18. August 3, 2013 9:49 am

    Dianne_ ‘ ‘ I would prefer to be inspired. Far more powerful than biff.’ ‘
    *
    *agree*
    2007 folks were inspired, most elections tho, they are not.
    Usually we have to vote for the `least`shit choice, l suspect 2013 will be more in this group, Kevin07 will lose some gloss over boat-people, bank-tax, smokes-tax and the budget surplus fetish.

  19. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 9:52 am

    I agree 7.30. Not sure about a negative impact of the loading on ciggies though.

  20. August 3, 2013 10:09 am

    Well Dianne, the rich smokers won`t care if their smokes go up a few bucks a packet. Neither will those buying very cheap black market smokes. But these are just the `book-ends` of the topic. ln between is the smoker-majority, who are already pissed off with being gouged on price and kicked out of their pub and club to smoke.
    *
    lf you don`t relate to smoking, imagine it is some simple pleasure you may `Lawfully` enjoy, Coffee, Tea, Booze, Chocolate, Fast-Food
    *
    The Tax is a `grab` wrapped in a `do-gooder` message.

  21. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 10:19 am

    You may well be right there 7.30. I have always thought that many people who smoke would really prefer not to and would welcome another incentive. Dreaming? I was watching a French movie last night, a recent one, and was astonished to see how many characters were smoking. Even a pregnant woman. But I have never seen more smokers than in Belguim. Amazing. Cabs reek. Butts everywhere. People cycling along with a cig hanging from their lips. We are so accustomed to people not smoking now. Obviously a good thing but we are so antiseptic. We are an obedient bunch. And aggressive. Repressed?

  22. August 3, 2013 10:34 am

    l am one of those annoying Friday-night smokers and drinkers. When we have a booze-up and bbq (about every 3-weeks) is the rare time l drink and smoke. The rest of the time l am (mostly) a tea-totaler. A lot of the Govt crap on smoking/tax is actually based on bullshit. Smokes have now be taxed to the extent that the black-market `gap` has existed for quite a few years now, so all the Govts data is wrong/distorted.

  23. egg permalink
    August 3, 2013 10:35 am

    The social movement in Australia to change people’s habits has been successful. Tax it through the roof and make the self abusers feel like pariahs.

    Now we should start on alcohol… for the good of society.

  24. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 3, 2013 10:56 am

    Smoking is for fat lazy types, it’s a habit that goes hand in hand with poker machines (and dole bludging). Identical demographics.

    Tax both out of existence.

  25. August 3, 2013 10:56 am

    ‘ ‘ Now we should start on alcohol ‘ ‘
    *
    Welcome to the delusion Dumpty.
    Decades ago l started home-brewing when a case/slab of beer increased from 16-to-19 bucks. The breweries even changed the type of bottle used to hinder home-brewers, LOL, they spent millions on it, and failed.
    *
    And my wog mates new australian friends make grappa/vino/home-made-wine, all Legally. The exercises in `nothing` continue.

  26. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 11:06 am

    I bet you enjoy it too 7.30. Sometimes I feel like a ciggie but not often.

    Now you are talking Egg. I would like to have the banning baton for a while. A couple of hours should do it. Abracadabra. Whoosh. Away with the nation’s leaders, tattoos, graffiti is ok, Botox, purveyors of cupcakes which are topped with Prussian helmets of lurid icing, all celebrity journalists, most developers, sticky date pudding, pumpkin, peach colour tones unless fruit, waxing salons, Greek statues made in China, beige carpet, Bermuda shorts and long socks, singlets, basketball, Christopher Pyne. No! I will need the baton longer. It is mine! I have the power. Watch out.

  27. August 3, 2013 11:08 am

    “Smoking is for fat lazy types, it’s a habit that goes hand in hand with poker machines (and dole bludging).”

    Yom speaks the truth.

    We should also tax fast food out of existence too.

    In fact fat people should pay more tax.

    I for one, am sick of having to walk behind fat people on the pavement simply for the fact that you can’t get around them. They take up more space, and more wear and tear on the pavement so it seems only fair that they should pay a greater share in Council rates.

  28. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 3, 2013 11:13 am

    That’s true!!

    Fat people should pay more tax, escalators – you can’t get past them and they’re too fat to move.

    they should be weighed with their luggage at airports, really, what’s the point of limiting luggage to 23kgs if the person carrying them is 90kgs?

    I might start a movement – ”out of the way fatty” is the slogan. Like GetUp, but targeting the fat.

  29. egg permalink
    August 3, 2013 11:18 am

    ‘We should also tax fast food out of existence too. In fact fat people should pay more tax.’

    I agree on the first suggestion, but it would be political suicide to implement the latter.

  30. August 3, 2013 11:21 am

    yomm_ l can`t see how pokie machines can/will be taxed out of existence,
    *agree with the sentiment tho

  31. August 3, 2013 11:22 am

    “out of the way fatty”

    LOL.. I like it a lot Tom.

    For far too long, fat people have had it too good. They have no appreciation for the inconvenience they cause everyone else..

    Not just on airplanes, but at the cinema too their flabby arms spill over into my personal space all the time. Shoot them an evil glance and they just look back at you pathetically with their pudgy expressionless little faces saying “It’s not my fault I’m a fat cnut”

    Well actually it is! If you didn’t eat five nights a week at Red Rooster, KFC and McDonalds you wouldn’t be in the sad sack of shit place you’re in now.

    ****out of the way fatty****

  32. August 3, 2013 11:24 am

    ” escalators – you can’t get past them and they’re too fat to move.”

    This is true ToM.

    Have you noticed that the escalators at Southern Cross station have been out of action for the past few days?

    Fat people did that.

  33. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 3, 2013 11:36 am

    Fat people did that

    ***out of the way fatty***

    (eggs excepted)

  34. August 3, 2013 11:37 am

    l hold little hope on the pollies having the gonads to stand-up to kentucky-duck and krusty-burger reb, it would be nice if they did regulate the fat/sugar and nutritional value in those so-called foods, it is still bad food even if a bit more tax gets chucked on it

  35. August 3, 2013 11:53 am

    glad we`re not flogging the `marriage` vote to the `heavy` demographic on this thread _just-sayin

  36. August 3, 2013 12:05 pm

    Fat people did that

    ***out of the way fatty***

    (expensive cheese varietals excluded.)

  37. egg permalink
    August 3, 2013 12:36 pm

    ** chuckle **

    It would be delicious fun to tax the fats.

  38. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 3, 2013 1:03 pm

    A fat guy was looking out the window on the right

  39. egg permalink
    August 3, 2013 2:27 pm

    Elsewhere on the blogosphere they call me fatso and fatarse … luv the irony.

  40. TB Queensland permalink
    August 3, 2013 3:18 pm

    so all the Govts data is wrong/distorted. 007

    maybe … but medical costs $10 billion won’t be … (BTW its tee-totaller)

    lf you don`t relate to smoking, imagine it is some simple pleasure you may `Lawfully` enjoy

    No! Because eating a bar of chocolate or supping coffe doesn’t harm OTHER people*

    *Disclaimer – I started smoking @ 11 and quit @ 32 – (cold turkey).

    sticky date pudding, STICKY DATE PUDDING! A curse on your coffin and a pox on your house!

    How would you defne – FAT? Would they have to wear fat yellow stars on thier clothes?

  41. August 3, 2013 3:40 pm

    TB* ‘ ‘ but medical costs $10 billion won’t be ‘ ‘
    wasn`t referring to that TB, medical billions for smokes, junk-food, cola-drinks, booze and eating the fat on your steak, no truck with any of them numbers
    *
    so all the Govts data is wrong/distorted
    when it comes to the numbers of quitter`s measured off of smokes sales, they just can`t be accurate, due to black market, (same for nike shoes, cds, dvds etc)
    *
    lf you don`t relate to smoking, imagine it is some simple pleasure you may `Lawfully` enjoy

    No! Because eating a bar of chocolate or supping coffe doesn’t harm OTHER people*

    *slave plantations hurt people, coffee, smokes, sugar or tea (no_difference)

    *if you`re talking confined space, *agree*

  42. August 3, 2013 4:03 pm

    TB, just so you know, l don`t deny science based numbers, from scientific people, (that`s Dumpty`s job)
    *
    but l nearly always doubt the political defined and created numbers, they are usually a little bit bullshit, and based on bullshit reasons,
    *
    as an example, we all know that painting military equipment makes it so `disgusting` that countries now never engage in useless war,
    *
    therefore, painting cigarette packets makes smoking seem so disgusting that people have given it away totally 🙂

  43. August 3, 2013 4:05 pm

    cigarette packets are now painted military green

  44. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 4:15 pm

    Sticky date pud puts you in the coffin TB. What I have against it is its ubiquity. Pumpkin soup is over exposed too. Anyway sticky date is not tropical fare. Golden Circle pineapple rings with a glazed cherry on top is light and refreshing.

  45. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 4:17 pm

    And Tom, smoking keeps you away from the fridge.

  46. August 3, 2013 4:26 pm

    So what have the do-gooder`s got against pumpkin soup.?
    l wonder who benefits off anti-soup messages.?

  47. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 3, 2013 4:41 pm

    Why shouldn’t this guy just have the same luggage allowance as the rest of us?

    **out of the way fatty**

  48. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 5:06 pm

    Do gooders LOVE the pumpkin 7.30. The gourd is a staple of every soup kitchen and every run-on-shoe-string cafe. I don’t think there is any other soup produced in the home of the Queensland Blue. And in hot weather too.

    Tom maybe Hockey will announce policy on stomach stapling.

  49. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 5:24 pm

    I have been a little unwell today and have been malingering for a couple of hours watching Royal weddings on YouTube. Do you all feel sick?

  50. August 3, 2013 5:41 pm

    Nah, l `m not sick Dianne. The others probably aren`t either, but being the weekend they are doing what their wives tell em, instead of sky-larking from the office.

  51. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 3, 2013 6:02 pm

    Hmmm…

    The federal government has reached an agreement with the government of Nauru to settle asylum seekers on the tiny Pacific island nation.
    In a deal similar to the one struck with Papua New Guinea last month, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on Saturday signed a memorandum of understanding with Nauruan President Baron Waqa that will see the 21 square kilometre Pacific nation, home to about 10,000 inhabitants, process and settle asylum seekers.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/nauru-signs-boat-people-deal-with-australia-20130803-2r5yn.html#ixzz2atIfvC76

    I’m not fond of these machinations, but this will cause Abbott to screech even more loudly on the subject.

  52. August 3, 2013 6:05 pm

    ‘ ‘ It is a party(greens) of the hard Left, whose official platform reads like a Stalin-era blueprint for a country under Communist control, and where ideological purity and pedagogy take precedence over considerations that are practical, practicable, or even realistic.’ ‘
    http://theredandtheblue.org/2013/08/02/vote-liberal-vote-labor-just-dont-vote-greens/
    *
    ** Guffaw ** Teabag Panic

  53. egg permalink
    August 3, 2013 6:14 pm

    ‘I’m not fond of these machinations’

    No, but the government has little choice if they want to win this election… its what the majority want.

  54. egg permalink
    August 3, 2013 6:54 pm

    Fairfax has egg on its face, hate media gets it right.

    ‘KEVIN Rudd said today he had not settled on an election date, citing unfinished negotiations with the states on his school and disability reforms.’

  55. August 3, 2013 7:28 pm

    egg, l suspect a bit of media bullshit on the election date,
    kevin07 would be better off going back to parliament and give Mr-Rabbit a few good poundings before calling an election

  56. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 8:26 pm

    Strange. It is often said Peter Hartcher is on a drip feed from Rudd headquarters. Odd to get a simple thing like a date wrong.

  57. Dianne permalink
    August 3, 2013 8:26 pm

    Mark Kenny had his name on story too.

  58. August 3, 2013 8:46 pm

    Sometimes.

  59. egg permalink
    August 4, 2013 7:53 am

    Down at the cafe they are still running Election September 7, at least Fairfax had the decency to pull the lie.

  60. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2013 10:28 am

    ”Down at the cafe…” they run a conflict model. There is no exchange, discussion or analysis, until scaper or Neil turn up to rattle the cage, then they all swarm around, arguing about…Howard and Costello!

    Hilarious!

  61. August 4, 2013 10:30 am

    heads-up archair, great laugh here
    *
    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ Maybe if you commission your own polls and pay top dollar for them to people who know how to do it properly, you’ll get the real deal. The polls published in the newspapers are not the real deal. Hell, the political journalism published in the papers isn’t even the real deal.

    If the polls say anything useful at all, it is that Tony Abbott is no more convincing as “Howard 3.0” ‘ ‘ ‘
    *
    http://andrewelder.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-beam-in-your-own-eye.html

  62. IPA permalink
    August 4, 2013 3:47 pm

    It’s on.

    Prime Minister Kevin Rudd calls September 7 federal election

  63. egg permalink
    August 4, 2013 4:10 pm

    Joker!

  64. egg permalink
    August 4, 2013 4:11 pm

    Its on again.

  65. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2013 4:29 pm

    On the basis of ministerial capability and policy framework, the ALP/Rudd deserves to win.

    Leadership – articulation of direction, intelligence, horsepower

    • Rudd easily, in debates Abbott will look second rate. that’s mainly because he is.

    Treasury Bowen vs Hockey

    • No contest – Bowen by a mile. Hockey might be avuncular, but he’ll get nailed on cuts and detail. It’s a disgrace that the Liberals won’t allow treasury to cost their policies.

    Foreign Affairs – Carr vs Bishop

    • Carr by 2 miles. Perhps if Bishop improved her staring and wore brighter blue tops with more sequins

    Immigration – Burke v Morrison

    • Let’s have a debate to prove redneck Morrison is a dill.

    In the critical policy disciplines the ALP is way in front.

  66. August 4, 2013 4:31 pm

    Kevin07 has set the 2013 election date
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-04/rudd-announces-september-7-election-date/4863864
    gotta laugh,
    sep-07, a whole week earlier than Joolya`s sep-14

  67. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2013 4:32 pm

    It’s remarkable how much better this ministry looks without Gillard, Swan, Garrett, Emerson etc

    It just proves what bullshit artists those Gillard barrackers are.

  68. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2013 4:35 pm

    That’s nice Kev has sent me this personal email –

    It’s on.

    A few moments ago I saw the Governor-General and asked that she dissolve this parliament and call the Federal Election for September 7.
    Australians now face a choice. And the choice couldn’t be starker.
    I have a positive vision about the country we can be. In this election I’ll be talking with Australians across the county about better schools for our kids, investing so we can create good jobs, and about how the NBN can help keep our economy strong.
    Tony Abbott has a different approach. He’ll bang on with the same negativity that we’re all sick of. He’s only got three word slogans because he doesn’t have the ticker to debate his real agenda.
    Right now the only thing standing between Australia and an Abbott-led government is you, me, and as many Australians as we can rally to fight for the kind of nation we all want to live in.
    We’ve got one hell of a fight on our hands. Abbott and a few millionaires will out-spend us. But if we join together we can even the playing field. Chip in $5 to get us off to a strong start:
    http://www.alp.org.au/donate
    It’s time to rally the troops.
    Kevin
    PS – I mean what I say: we can win this if we work together. Now’s the time to step up – please make our campaign stronger by donating now: http://www.alp.org.au/donate

    I suppose I’ll kick in.

  69. August 4, 2013 4:42 pm

    l wonder what noise troll-media will engage in now. All the hyperventilating over the election date only amounted to 7 days. Will Roopert approve.?
    *
    PS you put dot-points in backwards yomm, Mr-Rabbit won`t approve.

  70. egg permalink
    August 4, 2013 4:58 pm

    ‘I suppose I’ll kick in.’

    Barracker!

  71. August 4, 2013 6:17 pm

    Go Abbott!

    * open your ugly, lizardlike mouth in public loud & often. Remind the whole country whom you are & what you represent.

  72. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 4, 2013 6:30 pm

    “open your ugly, lizardlike mouth in public loud & often. Remind the whole country whom you are & what you represent.”

    Yeah and the ALP picked someone to lead them who they themselves said was a nutjob.

    But they know that this nutjob is liked for some unknown reason. So the ALP picks a person to lead not because he is good for Australia but he is good for the ALP.

  73. August 4, 2013 6:36 pm

    sbs1 news, Mr-Rabbit is looking nervous, trapped in the media head-lights, choosing every single word oh-so carefully, he looks like a `sure`winner 🙂

  74. August 4, 2013 6:48 pm

    He’s liked because he isn’t Abbott, Neil. 🙄

    Not that hard to comprehend, really.

    Abbott is & always has been a loathsome piece of shit.

  75. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 4, 2013 6:59 pm

    “Abbott is & always has been a loathsome piece of shit.”

    Why?? based on everything you have said you would say the same thing no matter who lead the Coalition.

    Abbott is a better man than you. He is also a better man than anybody who leads the ALP.

  76. egg permalink
    August 4, 2013 7:09 pm

    ‘Abbott is a better man than you.’

    This is debatable.

  77. August 4, 2013 7:19 pm

    No, I’ve loathed Abbott for a long time indeed. Certainly well before he was ever even considered as a viable leader of the Opposition. So, you’re wrong on that, for a start.

    If someone who wasn’t a demonstrative, godbothering social conservative was in Abbott’s place, I’d be far more receptive to them.

    You claiming that Abbott is a ‘better man than me’ is ridiculous & indiscernable from where you sit anyway.

    He is a loathsome piece of shit. But don’t just take my word for it. A majority of those polled over a protracted period have a clear negative view of him. I’ve never been polled.

    The thing about Abbott is, he energises the conservative base. He plays to their/your fetishes & he was voted in at a time when the Coalition was fracturing. That doesn’t necessarily translate into support amongst the larger bulk of the population who aren’t rusted-on, nostalgic crotchsniffers who yearn for a return to the style of the odious Howard years.
    He repulses more people than he enamours.

    I still think the Coalition will win & form government. Thankfully, they probably won’t get the sort of landslide which could ensure their nuttier rightwing thinktank plans come to fruition.
    Some kind of balance is acceptable to me.

    It’s obvious, and always has been, that Abbott isn’t well liked. That will only fester into a greater canker if he becomes PM.

  78. August 4, 2013 7:22 pm

    Just to return the mindless judgement & unverifiable slur…

    Rudd, is a better man than you, Neil. So are Russian Scientists, especially the male ones.

  79. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2013 7:27 pm

    Abbott must have been very busy lately, he’s neglected to properly cover the grey streak along the rapidly widening part in his hair.
    ———————
    ***out of the way fatty***

  80. August 4, 2013 7:35 pm

    l could throw a stone into any random crowd around the world and hit a better man than Mr-Rabbit. The only person Mr-Rabbit may be better than is Kneel, but l`m not certain.

  81. August 4, 2013 7:36 pm

    They both certainly ooze blind faith.

  82. August 4, 2013 7:40 pm

    The best thing Abbott can do to erode his chances of victory is to keep talking publicly.

    Go Abbott!

  83. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 4, 2013 7:43 pm

    Toilet

    It would not matter who lead the Coalition you would say the same thing.

    I have never seen Abbott give a press conference as he emerges form Church like Rudd has done.

    Abbott is a big govt person and who would be comfortable in the ALP and then you would say nothing.

  84. August 4, 2013 7:43 pm

    l wonder who Kneel is going to vote for.?
    l have no idea. 🙂

  85. August 4, 2013 7:47 pm

    “It would not matter who lead the Coalition you would say the same thing.”

    I’ve already told you that you are wrong about that, but, whatever…

    You’re the one who makes retarded generalisations & rules out any sort of credible analysis because, according to you, half the population are liars.

    Take your head out of your arse, Neil. Try reading what I actually typed.

    I loathe Abbott. I have loathed him since the 90’s.

    I couldn’t give a fuck about supporting the ALP. You’re the one who sees it all in black & white. Not me, you arsehat.

  86. August 4, 2013 7:47 pm

    Dunny_ on sbs1 news tonight, Mr-Rabbit was saying he would do the debates, (3_l_think) so your wish may already be granted.

  87. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 4, 2013 7:51 pm

    “I loathe Abbott. I have loathed him since the 90′s.

    Why??

  88. August 4, 2013 7:56 pm

    Dunny_ Kneel is out of his depth with people like you and me, he cannot understand that both Mr-Rabbit AND the other side can be strongly disliked and not voted for by the same person. Kneel cannot get beyond the binary left/right, love/hate up/down of choices.

  89. August 4, 2013 8:05 pm

    “Why??”

    * his sneering demeanour

    * his slippery words when speaking on camera

    * his many social conservative stances

    * his belief in a made up sky entity

    * the fact that Howard (still) has a hand up his arse, manipulating him like a puppet

    * he is beholden to various interest groups which revolt me

    * his generally untrustworthy public persona

    * his misshapen head & reptilian lips

    * his enthralled devotees

    * his forked tongue

    * his staccato verbalisation technique

    …I could go on; but you wouldn’t believe me anyway, so it seems rather pointless. 🙄

  90. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 4, 2013 8:10 pm

    Toilet

    I thought you were talking about Rudd.

    Perhaps no matter who leads the Coalition you would say the same thing??

  91. August 4, 2013 8:11 pm

    * his master-class born to rule attitude (and_party`s)

  92. August 4, 2013 8:12 pm

    Oh, for fucksake! 😯

    Can you read?

    I’ve denied that several times now.

  93. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 4, 2013 8:13 pm

    Neil, even a political agnostic like me doesn’t like Abbott, here are just a few reasons.

    • Delivery – he’s inarticulate, he has trouble finding expression. His concepts aren’t front of mind. He’s not the type you would like to have represent Australia (and Gillard was a complete embarrassment on the same criteria)

    • Credibility – damaged by declining to put his policies to Treasury. A serious mistake. He’s offended PNG and Indonesia recently (Gillard deservedly had no credibility either)

    • Social progressive – scores nil, he’s stuck in the past with little connection to contemporary thinking. Possibly PPL aside. (Gillard scored lower than 0 because she should have had a better social conscience)

    There are plenty more examples, but you probably get the idea that he really isn’t the type most people would prefer to have running the place.

  94. August 4, 2013 8:15 pm

    No matter what you think of my motives, Neil, it matters not.

    Plenty of people loathe Abbott. The trend is inescapable, unless you want to just discount years of public polling.

    Go Abbott! keep talking! the punters get squeamish whenever you speak more than a couple of sentences to the camera.

  95. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 4, 2013 8:19 pm

    All i know is that if Labor is elected we will lose our AAA credit rating again like we did under Hawke/keating. And under various State labor govts like in Queensland and SA recently.

    And if that happens it means we will have to pay a higher interest rate on our debt and companies will also have to pay a higher rate.

    But Labor has charisma. And people vote for charisma.

  96. August 4, 2013 8:20 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ even a political agnostic like me ‘ ‘ ‘
    *
    **guffaw**
    a political agnostic like andrew bolt

  97. August 4, 2013 8:33 pm

    How good is Kevette?

    ***Out of the way fatty***

  98. egg permalink
    August 4, 2013 9:29 pm

    ‘But Labor has charisma. And people vote for charisma.’

    That is completely wrong headed old son, Kevette is not charismatic and so his party cannot take on the cloak of charismatic authority.

  99. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 4, 2013 9:43 pm

    “Kevette is not charismatic

    Are you kidding?? Have you seen how crowds flock to him. In contrast The Coalition is dull and boring. But we need dull and boring now.

    NBN after 6 years is nowhere to be seen. Debt is blowing out and a loss of AAA rating is soon to happen. Fifty thousand boat people/year costing $1B/year more than when Howard was in power. Nothing is happening except trouble.

  100. Dianne permalink
    August 5, 2013 6:05 am

    Have you noticed that the smiley button the friendly ones here use is the image of The Leader. That is all they need. T-shirts with a smiley button. Familiar. Friendly. Enduring.

  101. egg permalink
    August 5, 2013 7:23 am

    ‘Are you kidding??’

    No, people surround him in large numbers because he’s a media junkie, which is part of herd mentality, but he’s not charismatic and will probably lose the election.

  102. Dianne permalink
    August 5, 2013 7:40 am

    Of course I am kidding. He would be looking like the one with the pursed lips this morning after seeing the Newspoll slide. All that cruelty! All for nought.

  103. Dianne permalink
    August 5, 2013 7:41 am

    Where do you find those buttons? I am useless. Send me one Egg.

  104. Dianne permalink
    August 5, 2013 7:44 am

    I would take ‘probably’ out of your summing up Egg. I have never believed he would win. People crave authenticity. They will take it out on charlatans like Rudd who stand for nothing but self.

  105. egg permalink
    August 5, 2013 7:55 am

    We expect more from our politicians and they disappoint, being merely human.

  106. August 5, 2013 8:02 am

    heads-up Dianne,
    if this is what you mean *buttons*
    😯 😀
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/smilies/

  107. August 5, 2013 9:14 am

    abc1 news said,
    ‘ ‘ another hung parliament is a very real possibility in this election ‘ ‘ LOL,
    didn`t see who said it tho, l think it was A-Green.?
    *****GO WATERMELON******

  108. IPA permalink
    August 5, 2013 9:19 am

    Slogan: “a new way”; word count: three.

    Slogan: “three-word slogan”; word count: three.

  109. Dianne permalink
    August 5, 2013 9:20 am

    Yes that is a button 7.30. Thanks.

    I don’t know Egg. I think we want them to be human not automatons.

  110. August 5, 2013 9:33 am

    so bags`are`us`osy,
    who does the 3-word slogan belong to, l missed it

  111. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2013 9:51 am

    A Murdoch media organ in all its tumescent glory.

  112. Dianne permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:03 am

    SB. Col Allan special. What a disgrace. We are told that we have choice that media proprietors and editors have the right to support parties. Very well but we have limited choice in the papers produced in this country because of concentrated ownership. If the Libs win they will have won with the support of the biggest media empire the world has ever seen and they will be kept there by it. I am starting to think I should vote ALP.

  113. egg permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:05 am

    On June 26, Rupert Murdoch used Twitter to write: ”Australian public now totally disgusted with Labor Party wrecking country with it’s sordid intrigues. Now for a quick election.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/murdochs-vicious-attacks-on-rudd-its-business-20130803-2r65x.html#ixzz2b33zzmQd

  114. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:10 am

    “Slogan: “three-word slogan”; word count: three.”

    IPA one of the reasons Rudd looked so good early on was that he focused on policy issues. This was a sharp and refreshing difference with the Gillard approach.He is now back to the ‘negativity’ attack on Abbott (which is in itself a negative tactic). If he gets to the point of attacking Abbott as a misogynist he will have lost the game entirely and his popularity will fall to Gillard-like lows.

    If Rudd wants to make Abbott look stupid all he has to do is to keep talking policy to underscore the floundering flibbertigibbet incoherence of the Coalition. He can point to significant policy achievements under Labor while pledging to change those things voters see as failures. He has the best of both worlds. The opposition is dazed and confused, like a rabbott in the headlights, soon to become roadkill.

  115. IPA permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:14 am

    “tumescent”

    Nice.

    “If the Libs win they will have won with the support of the biggest media empire the world has ever seen”

    And in 2007 it was Labor that had its support.

    From today’s Tele editorial:

    “In 2007, The Daily Telegraph supported the election of a Labor government led by Kevin Rudd. Our argument then was that the previous Howard government had become weary and unimaginative, and that Rudd represented an opportunity for advancement.

    “Labor has squandered that opportunity, and is trying now to present itself as the answer to problems of its own creation.”

  116. Dianne permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:33 am

    Would be interesting to see how Tele expressed that support. I’ll bet it wasn’t a front page exhortation to ‘kick this mob out’.

  117. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:34 am

    I am not that fussed by the Tele headline. Voters work these things out for themselves.

    Against Gillard the Coalition could get away with being vague about their policies. Now the game has changed, the spotlight is on them and it seems they have no clear idea of what they would actually do in government. Abbott doesn’t present well, but the reason the Coalition has lost so much ground is that their policy cupboard is bare. They are not making a lot of sense. That is why they may well lose this election.

  118. Evil Walrus permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:39 am

    “Very well but we have limited choice in the papers produced in this country because of concentrated ownership. If the Libs win they will have won with the support of the biggest media empire the world has ever seen and they will be kept there by it.”

    OK.

    Why then is the ALP expected to pick up seats in Queensland where there is no Fairfax Press and News Limited’s Courier Mail is the dominant force and the LNP is expected to pick up seats in Victoria and NSW where there is a Fairfax Press in the Age and the SMH plus various Fairfax radio stations ?

    Seems your statement doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

    And is it a case of “concentrated ownership” or “concentrated popularity” when you compare News’ readership numbers to others ?

  119. August 5, 2013 10:48 am

    walrus, the teabags won`t get over the line with Roopert`s help, just as they didn`t in 2010, only 1of11 Aussies are direct consumers of Roopert`s crap, and it is in free-fall,
    *
    voters will work things out on Facebook, which has the numbers all media orgs would die for, and they will

  120. Dianne permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:50 am

    TB The sub text of the headline tells me that no spotlight will be trained upon Abbott’s policy shortcomings. It will be business as usual. I am always getting into battles with people including nearest and dearest who spout familiar slogans at me. Approvingly.

    Walrus – will he win seats in Queensland? If he does then parochialism would have played a role. Yes the Courier Mail is the dominant force. Adelaide is a one paper – murdoch, of course, town. It is not healthy. Murdoch wants the ABC sold off too. So do the tea bags. We should not be complacent. Sorry about scribble. In a rush.

  121. egg permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:50 am

    …and NSW where there is a Fairfax Press in the Age and the SMH plus various Fairfax radio stations ?’

    Including their stable of country newspapers in every big town.

  122. IPA permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:56 am

    “I am not that fussed by the Tele headline.”

    Nor I. In fact, I’d love to know how any newspaper editor could argue logically that Labor deserves another three years.

  123. Evil Walrus permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:57 am

    “…………only 1of11 Aussies are direct consumers of Roopert`s crap, and it is in free-fall,”

    In which case why do you constantly shriek like a banshee about Murdoch ?

  124. egg permalink
    August 5, 2013 11:00 am

    In a communications revolution we have a variety of choices …to get our news and views. The Daily Terror is providing the right slant for their audience, which makes the organisation commercially viable.

  125. August 5, 2013 11:14 am

    Go Abbott!

    Australia needs a strong, godfearing monarchist at the helm!

  126. August 5, 2013 11:20 am

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ why do you constantly shriek like a banshee about Murdoch ? ‘ ‘ ‘
    1. l screech about all the junk-media
    2. Limited-News spear-heads most of the junk
    3. Citizens deserve to be served properly and reasonably with *political-news
    4. Limited-News is the biggest failure of delivering on their on COC`s and reg`s.
    5. Limited-News goes beyond reasonable in their campaigning. (criminal_offshore)
    6. Foreign entity should not be interfering/toppling elected Govts/Police-Chiefs.
    7. Attacks on BBC,ABC, to enrich owner is not news-reporting.
    8. Attacks on Inquiry, Witnesses`s and Panel
    9. Promoting racial hate speech, white-aboriginals, Bolt.
    10. Attacks on Manne in the 1000`s,
    11. Treatment of Mayne.
    12. Attacks on Scientists.
    13. Abuse of power, lack of moral compass for `trusted` position.
    enough.? l got more.

  127. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2013 11:22 am

    “Murdoch wants the ABC sold off too.”

    Good idea, that. The government has no business funding a bunch of partisan fools. If we are to have a national broadcaster it should at least make some attempt to present a diversity of views and opinions. Just look at the coverage of Global Warming. The ABC is not at all interested in providing information, only propaganda for the warmist cause.

  128. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2013 11:24 am

    “l got more.”

    Spare us your infantile rantings.

  129. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 5, 2013 11:26 am

    Listening to Abbott on AM, he just can’t articulate a position. He’s too scripted.

    Rudd used to invite ridicule with the words he invented (internationalsyncroniscityismist or something) but he seems to have it under control now.
    ======
    **out of the way fatty**

  130. August 5, 2013 11:28 am

    Go Abbott!

    User pays for everything! because privatising my power & water has ensured such admirable competition that my bills have only skyrocketed 200% in the last decade.

    Bravo free marketeers! We want more of that! We also want our conditions of employment eroded; for our own good!

    Go Abbott!

    Prosecute Rinehart’s agenda with no mercy!

  131. August 5, 2013 11:30 am

    Go Abbott!

    Stifle same sex marriage at every turn! It’s what jesus would have done!

    Go Abbott! Our Saviour’s man in charge!

  132. August 5, 2013 11:34 am

    Go Abbott!

    Make Andrew Bolt CEO of the ABC! We need to better align the ABC with NewsLtd. or people will become confused with the lack of congruency!

    Go Abbott!

    ABC should only be available to paying subscribers, just like the credibly popular Herald Sun!

  133. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2013 11:35 am

    Your power bills have increased because of the renewable energy targets and the carbon tax. The Chinese are cashing in on windmills they sell to gullible westerners while they build efficient coal power stations for themselves. The bankers are cheering as they organise the infrastructure finance and the Greens are wanking off in the corner dreaming of the day they abolish coal mining altogether.

  134. August 5, 2013 11:35 am

    ‘ ‘ Murdoch wants the ABC sold off too.’ ‘ + ‘ ‘ Good idea ‘ ‘
    +
    fascinating,
    you do realize the media`s role is to `report` what happens
    NOT `create` what happens.?

  135. August 5, 2013 11:35 am

    “Nor I.”

    What an astounding revelation!

    * Go Abbott!

  136. August 5, 2013 11:40 am

    “Your power bills have increased because of the renewable energy targets and the carbon tax.”

    My power bills started increasing many years before a carbon tax had even been mooted.

    Coincidentally (guffaw) when the state Liberal government went on a privatisation spree. Hooray for privatisation! Sell our Utilities to foreign companies so that our bills increase by a meagre 200% ! Yay for competition & the free market!

    * that’s not to say that I don’t recognise the impact that green fetishes have had on my bills…but I’m not so stupid to think that Abbott supposedly eradicating the carbon tax will wind back the gouging by anything but an incremental amount.

  137. August 5, 2013 11:42 am

    Shut down the sbs,
    it`s only boat-people TV
    **Go Mr-Rabbit

  138. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2013 11:48 am

    “you do realize the media`s role is to `report` what happens”

    No. I don’t realize that at all. I’ve never seen any evidence that the media do that at all.

    Take the ABC for example – it does not even attempt to do that. The trouble is that intolerant monomaniacs think that they should be able to decide what the media reports and how they report it. I am much more concerned about that totalitarian tendency. Biased media is a given. When it goes OTT, as the Tele did this morning, that is a matter of some amusement. The real problem is when the fascist goons try to prescribe what the media can and cannot say.

    And you really strike the nadir of delusional despotism with comments like “Citizens deserve to be served properly and reasonably with *political-news”. So now it is some form of human right to be served with one person’s view of what is ‘proper’ and ‘reasonable’ reporting. Next thing you know that wonderful person is here to pass laws to ensure that their version is the only news you can access. Underpants Conroy would be so proud of you.

  139. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2013 11:51 am

    “but I’m not so stupid to think that Abbott supposedly eradicating the carbon tax will wind back the gouging by anything but an incremental amount.”:

    Indeed. He needs to get rid of the renewable energy targets which have had a greater effect than the carbon tax. And he needs to claw back the money stolen by clean energy utilities charging exorbitant amounts for electricity.

  140. August 5, 2013 11:55 am

    I think you miss my point, splatter.

    The privatisation began in the 90’s.

    I’m not denying that the targets you mention have had an impact, but the privatisation can’t be undone.

    Abbott (Go!) can remove all of the green lace he wants, but it will make small difference. The gouging will remain.
    Selling essential utilities to foreign owned corporations did nothing to help the consumer here; it had the opposite effect.

  141. August 5, 2013 11:56 am

    Of course, the State Labor government has been complicit in this for the last decade now.

  142. IPA permalink
    August 5, 2013 11:56 am

    “What an astounding revelation!”

    So do you have a problem with the Tele front page? If so, on what principle?

  143. IPA permalink
    August 5, 2013 11:59 am

    So, state ownership of utilities leads to lower bills. You got a link for that? 😉

    In other words: GUFFAW!

  144. August 5, 2013 12:00 pm

    I might add, the SA Labor government should, in a sane world, be kicked out on its arse in March (?) next year.

  145. August 5, 2013 12:02 pm

    “So do you have a problem with the Tele front page?”

    It’s patently ridiculous, but I’m immune to such hyperbole & I wouldn’t piss on that paper, much less purchase & read it, so it troubles me not.

  146. August 5, 2013 12:04 pm

    **Citizens deserve to be served properly and reasonably with *political-news**
    *
    you should have proved me wrong and got the cocs/regs of canada, sweden, norway to demonstrate how `despotic` it is to report “`*political-news properly and reasonably“` accurately and fairly for the publics benefit in so-called democracy `s

  147. August 5, 2013 12:04 pm

    “You got a link for that?”

    The privatisation horse has long bolted. It should be a caution against further stupidity in the future though.

    Perhaps you can link me to how privatising SA’s power & water has been of benefit to citizens?

  148. IPA permalink
    August 5, 2013 12:13 pm

    Some breaking news for the economic ignoramuses: A privately owned newspaper has no public duties. Its responsibilities are to operate lawfully and make a profit (or not) for its shareholders.

  149. August 5, 2013 12:18 pm

    here l am being told l`m a despot coz l reckon folks should get reasonable political news, while at the same time on TV news, l am watching some forest somewhere being turned into a gigantic mountain of wood-chips. All l can think is, l wish l was going to live long enough to see the end of the world, it can`t be too far away. Go! Mr-Rabbit

  150. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2013 12:18 pm

    Privatisation usually leads to the creation of a monopoly. This was the problem with Telstra – it wasn’t broken up because it was worth more that way. The same situation will prevail with the NBN if and when it is sold off for a pittance compared with its actual cost. On the other hand monopoly enterprises in government hands are usually run for the benefit of management and the unions or to provide political advantage. Either way you pay more.

    The only advantage of privatisation is the one-off lump sum the government gets from the sale, which is usually necessary to pay off some debt racked up leftists.

    The worst case was the desal plants. They should never have been built in the first place. But a bunch of incompetent fruitloops convinced the government that the dams would never be full again. And despite being shown to be conclusively wrong on that these fucking turds still hold positions of power, sucking on the public teat. In NSW the white elephant was sold off but on a 50 year deal that gives a little sugar hit now and 50 years of payback by the people of NSW.

    And the politicians involved in private infrastructure projects learn valuable and quite marketable skills in the process. Bob Carr went straight from politics to a consultancy to Macquarie Bank, who had been involved in many infrastructure projects. In most countries there would be a cooling-off period, but in Unionland (NSW Branch) those rules don’t apply.

  151. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2013 12:23 pm

    “here l am being told l`m a despot coz l reckon folks should get reasonable political news”

    The despot is someone who is so far up themselves that they even think they can decide what is ‘reasonable’ for everyone else. The best we can hope for is to have a free press. There will be massive disagreement as to what is reasonable but the people will work it out for themselves.

  152. August 5, 2013 12:33 pm

    I’m in total agreement about the desal plant in Adelaide, which has cost me plenty on my water bill, even though I live 500kms from Adelaide & will never get a drop of water from the fkn thing!
    We are paying for it & it’s fkn mothballed!

  153. August 5, 2013 12:37 pm

    *fair and reasonable* are even used in the legal/court system, so you will now claim `the-law` should not exist.?
    *
    the `reasonable` that l am referring to is fairness, truthful reports on political matters so that voters can make a `reasonable` decision when voting, as it may be the only source they see on the matter(tho lessening rapidly)

  154. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 5, 2013 12:38 pm

    Some breaking news for the economic ignoramuses: A privately owned newspaper has no public duties.

    Even the aust press council, which is supposed to regulate the media says there are principles

    http://www.presscouncil.org.au/general-principles/

    eg General Principle 1: Accurate, fair and balanced reporting:

    Publications should take reasonable steps to ensure reports are accurate, fair and balanced. They should not deliberately mislead or misinform readers either by omission or commission.

    Cripes!

    General Principle 6: Transparent and fair presentation

    Publications are free to advocate their own views and publish the bylined opinions of others, as long as readers can recognise what is fact and what is opinion. Relevant facts should not be misrepresented or suppressed, headlines and captions should fairly reflect the tenor of an article and readers should be advised of any manipulation of images and potential conflicts of interest.

    double cripes!

    Journalists are supposed to operate under a code of ethics [though they seem to have forgotten this].

    http://www.gwb.com.au/99a/ethics.html

    Why then is the ALP expected to pick up seats in Queensland where there is no Fairfax Press and News Limited’s Courier Mail is the dominant force…

    because kevvy is a qlder, simple as that, qld is very parochial.

    and the LNP is expected to pick up seats in Victoria and NSW…

    and nsw labor stinks, they’ve had ongoing corruption scandals.

    Are you somehow trying to say that the murdochracy does not campaign and try to influence the outcome of elections? You would have to be deliberately blind and completely disconnected from the real world not to see the bias. The australian rag is demented pro abbott, running interference for him whenever necessary. Not only does it openly cheerlead for abbott, the journos protect him from himself, won’t print a word of any criticisms – go to great lengths to minimise and negate any negative feedback, defend any stuff ups, or quickly find an anti labor attack to get abbott off the front page and won’t correct it when they are found to have made shit up. Newsltd won’t investigate any LNP scandals [ashby etc] yet will print any innuendo and gossip that is anti labor. They won’t ask abbott any serious questions when supposedly ‘reporting’ his pressers either.

    There was a classic the other day, abbott called his usual ‘press conference’ cum propaganda show and spruiked another of his ‘policies-without-detail’. At the end of it, he glibly said if there were any problems to arise from it they would be dealt with accordingly. The obvious question to be asked by a halfway decent journo was “like what tony, please elaborate, what would you do?”

    nada, not a thing. Abbott spruiks message, fields a couple of easy dorothy dixers and then it’s wrap up and go. Might as well say at the end – this political advertisement brought to you by the LNP.

    Why would a newsltd journo and photographer be accompanying morrison on that trip to tent island if it wasn’t a pre-planned op?
    Why would abbott and turnbull deliver their fraudband gala opening from fox studios? Why does abbott have weekly strategy meetings with newsltd?

    I can’t believe the arrogance of abbott, he is so full of himself. The election has been called and he is immediately telling the voters that he is doing no deals with the greens [we all know he will do whatever it takes to get into the lodge] and they must not vote in a hung parliament, the voters must do as they are told you see, abbott must be PM. More of the ‘illegal’ boat people too. He has no shame.

    On ABC24 it’s nothing but positive tony, positive policy, positive ad, everywhere the word positive – if he says it enough, that will make the LNP’s constant harping negativity suddenly become positive, easy eh?

    Some people are easily taken for fools and some [walruses] eagerly offer themselves up.

  155. August 5, 2013 12:50 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ the arrogance of abbott, (Go!) he is so full of himself. The election has been called and he is immediately telling the voters that he is doing no deals with the greens ‘ ‘
    *
    l can`t wait to see him grovel to milne to try and make a watermelon collective

  156. egg permalink
    August 5, 2013 1:01 pm

    ‘l can`t wait to see him grovel to milne to try and make a watermelon collective’

    Only if Barnaby is head of the Green Army…. agrarian socialists rules!

  157. egg permalink
    August 5, 2013 1:04 pm

    ‘Are you somehow trying to say that the murdochracy does not campaign and try to influence the outcome of elections?’

    No they are deliberately and openly barracking for the right. In a democracy we allow this type of behaviour.

  158. August 5, 2013 1:21 pm

    Essential Poll 2 Party Preferred: ALP 49 (0) L/NP 51 (0)

  159. Evil Walrus permalink
    August 5, 2013 1:32 pm

    “Why does abbott have weekly strategy meetings with newsltd?”

    When are you actually going to back up some of your bullshit with some proof ?

  160. Evil Walrus permalink
    August 5, 2013 1:46 pm

    “The first election of Australia’s post-resources boom era marks the end of a decade of rising national prosperity. Now the money has run out. The economy is in trouble. And the dysfunctional politics of the past three years must end. Under both Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard, Labor has shown itself to be structurally unfit to govern. ”

    Fairfax AFR

  161. Evil Walrus permalink
    August 5, 2013 1:47 pm

    Another poll of over 3000 voters

    http://www.reachtel.com.au/blog/7-news-national-poll-4august13

  162. Evil Walrus permalink
    August 5, 2013 1:48 pm

    Oooooops 2,949 voters

  163. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 5, 2013 2:00 pm

    *Abbott vs <del
    Gillard Rudd
    *Hockey vs Swan Bowan
    *Turnbull vs Conroy Albanese

    In the critical positions, the ALP is way in front. How much more capable it looks without Gillard, Swan, Conroy, Garrett, Emerson etc.

    Once debates start I think the Liberals will slide. Where is their up side from here?

  164. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 5, 2013 2:01 pm

    Gillard

  165. Dianne permalink
    August 5, 2013 2:05 pm

    I support your comments Armchair and welcome the links.

    It is so easy to be glib about dismantling institutions which have served our country well. After the Depression and world War Two we realized very quickly that neo-Liberalism had died along with the millions. We took the road marked collective responsibility and it served us well. Then off we rushed again down the glittering expanses of Boulevard de laissez faire in the 1980s. Economic miracles funded by selling the family silver.

    Tony Abbott’s mentor BA Santamaria used to say that despite being recognised for his anti-communism he believed the greatest threat to our civilization was unbridled capitalism.

    Getting back to the newspapers. I look upon today’s media with scorn by and large however I feel mightily aggrieved that some cynical ‘journalists’ think so little of their craft or society that they are willing propagandists. I may be a prideful person but I feel personally insulted by their behavior.

  166. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 5, 2013 2:25 pm

    “I feel mightily aggrieved that some cynical ‘journalists’ think so little of their craft or society that they are willing propagandists.”

    Indeed. Just look at the Climate scare campaign run by Fairfax and the ABC.

  167. August 5, 2013 2:51 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ There are two upcoming power battles in Australia. One pits Kevin Rudd against Tony Abbott.(Go!) The second positions Rupert Murdoch and his newspapers against our democracy. The outcome of the first battle may depend on the second, yet we only get to vote in one of them. ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘
    http://thefailedestate.blogspot.com/2013/08/did-you-vote-for-this-man.html

  168. egg permalink
    August 5, 2013 2:52 pm

    Yes splatter its a disgrace. Dianne and Kitty have already been completely brainwashed and can’t see it.

  169. August 5, 2013 3:07 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ I may be a prideful person but I feel personally insulted by their behavior.’ ‘
    *
    Dianne, l doubt you`re prideful so much.
    You probably tend to get annoyed with the crotch-sniffers that make demands on others and lack self-respect. lf you noticed, there are many deranged, that are prepared to abbott-lick and murdoch-sniff to the detriment of their own, and their family`s good.

  170. IPA permalink
    August 5, 2013 3:14 pm

    Rudd has just spent another $450 million on pre-school care. A nice idea, probably, but we haven’t got any fkn money, Kev! Together with the $200 million auto industry assistance, he’s spent $650 mill already today. Based on that daily spend, and with five weeks to go before the election, he’ll send us broke before then (if we’re not technically insolvent already).

  171. August 5, 2013 3:28 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ $200 million auto industry ‘ ‘ ‘
    *
    accountants should tell us what that works out to per worker, this is another welfare program that ALL fed/state/lib/lab continue

  172. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 5, 2013 3:29 pm

    “The second positions Rupert Murdoch and his newspapers against our democracy.

    Like that way that is put. If you don’t vote Labor you are anti-democratic.

    Leftists do not like it when people do not vote the way we should be voting (according to them).

    I find it strange that a party that gets 50% of the vote seems to want extra help from newspapers. Even trying to censor newspapers that do not say the right thing. You already have Fairfax and the ABC.

  173. public toilet permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:45 pm

    Go England!

  174. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 5, 2013 10:58 pm

    AUSSIES!!

    OI!

  175. egg permalink
    August 6, 2013 6:49 am

    ‘old toilet blocks facing a cafe makeover’

    SMH

  176. August 6, 2013 10:58 am

    Australian Cricket fails again!

    Languishing at the bottom of the pile…after all of the misplaced triumphalism of its sickeningly blind patriotic devotees!

    Happy days! 😆

  177. August 6, 2013 11:00 am

    I feel like I’ve been enjoying the schadenfreude for years now.

    Deja vu.

    With more to come…

  178. August 6, 2013 11:05 am

    Full credit to TomR, for finding this excellent appraisal of the rockshifting shrubplanter…

  179. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 6, 2013 11:33 am

    TomR has finally gained some understanding of his own rhetorical technique?

  180. IPA permalink
    August 8, 2013 9:10 am

    Tuesday was the 68th anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing. For those who struggle with the morality or otherwise of such a devastating intervention, this video is worth watching in full.

  181. August 8, 2013 10:52 am

    …definitely ‘or otherwise’.

  182. egg permalink
    August 9, 2013 8:54 pm

    ** bump **

    ‘German tabloid Bild here a few days ago reported that Germany’s powerful Green party is calling for a ban of meat consumption. Of course the Greens are aware that it is not possible to restrict meat overnight, and so they are calling for a first major step: a “Veggie Day” once a week.’

    NoTricksZone

  183. That Arsehole Walrus permalink
    August 9, 2013 10:54 pm

    Yes IPA

    It is the anniversary. I don’t need to watch the video. But plenty of the Luuvies of the Lunatic Left will disagree of course.

    We are fortunate we have the gift to reinterpret History in hindsight.

  184. That Arsehole Walrus permalink
    August 9, 2013 10:57 pm

    Egg
    Can’t Maccas just market that Lab Burger we all heard about this week.

    $300,000 for a drive thru Big Mac sound like a bargain.

    I’m worried about my non animal product cappuccino though.

  185. August 9, 2013 11:46 pm

    Yeah, coz the US nuked two cities full of people ‘for the good of us all’… 🙄

    There were no other demonstrable targets!

    Go freedom!

  186. August 9, 2013 11:48 pm

    Reinterpreting history…as opposed to perpetually viewing it through the rose coloured glasses of the victor; who selectively wrote it.

  187. egg permalink
    August 10, 2013 7:18 am

    ‘There were no other demonstrable targets!’

    Many years ago I was Talking to a Changi widow and suggested they could have dropped the bombs off shore (up wind) as a warning to cease hostilities and surrender.

    The Changi widow abused me.

  188. IPA permalink
    August 10, 2013 9:53 am

    These 14 pages are worth a read.

    “Thank God for the Atom Bomb”

  189. August 10, 2013 12:42 pm

    Instantly discredited by the first two words in the title. 🙄

    Whittle…PJapologist

  190. IPA permalink
    August 10, 2013 12:49 pm

    The article was written by Paul Fussell. 🙄

  191. August 10, 2013 1:26 pm

    The 2nd one. Yes, I know. 🙄

    Whittle was the sneering PJapologist from your first link. He has a primary function, easy to recognise when you look at the other vids in the sidebar of his ‘afterburner’ page. I’ve seen his condescending take on conservative make-gooding several times before.

  192. IPA permalink
    August 10, 2013 1:30 pm

    Okay, so you don’t like Whittle. Any chance of addressing his arguments, or Fussell’s?

  193. Dianne permalink
    August 10, 2013 2:35 pm

    You can argue with T IPA but I would like to contribute after admittedly scanning Thank God …. Another attempt to justify a wartime horror. I read very little written by men about war. If I do engage with the subject I am always far more interested in the accounts of women and their heroic efforts in looking after children while trying to survive themselves during those hideous times. Invariably I feel more uplifted by small-scale self-sacrifice and ingenuity than I am by big battles and bombing raids. And so back to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I have always been suspicious that the primary motivation that atom bombs were dropped on Japan was to bring the war to an end although it certainly had that result. No I think as the war was coming to an end attention was already turning to possible conflict with the Soviet Union. Were those bombs dropped on Japanese cities as a grotesque sabre rattle at the communists? You non-gentlemen know more about these matters than I do.

    Btw typically I am far more interested in Betty Fussell, first wife of Paul who was a kitchen whizz and writer who turned him over well and truly.

  194. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 10, 2013 7:36 pm

    “a kitchen whizz… who turned him over well and truly

    I suppose that’s a subjet I know something about!
    ———-
    It’s an ideal night for red!

  195. Dianne permalink
    August 10, 2013 8:48 pm

    Senior male of household is big redding in front of the footie. Mineral water for moi and last night’s recording of Broadchurch which is boring me rigid but I will have to stay with it to find out who dunnit. Surely next week will reveal all. Will disappoint as always.

  196. August 10, 2013 9:45 pm

    Dunny, tonights sbs` news,
    Facebook has 11million aussie users.
    +
    From other source, (l forget),
    around 75% of facebook users `check-in` 3-or -more times a day.
    (May be different to aussie demographic)
    +
    Go Roopert!

  197. TB Queensland permalink
    August 11, 2013 10:06 am

    The grammar nazi’s will love this …

    CALD is not a term BTW, its an acronym!

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/strewth-aussie-workers-told-to-cut-the-slang/story-fncynjr2-1226694726246

  198. egg permalink
    August 11, 2013 10:34 am

    ‘The official document warns the Australian accent can baffle even English-speaking migrants, and tells bosses and workmates to speak slowly, clearly and simply.’

    guffaw

  199. egg permalink
    August 11, 2013 4:18 pm

    Tony Abbott wants to spend a week in the outback with an indigenous mob and Miglo pours scorn.

    pissant

  200. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 11, 2013 4:41 pm

    I used to have a little to do with Warren Mundine, I don’t think there is any doubting his commitment to indigenous people.

    I also think the ALP passed up the opportunity to put him in parliament on many occasions. He would have added depth and credibility.

  201. egg permalink
    August 11, 2013 4:49 pm

    From that ABC link and Abbott should win this round.

    ‘He described Mr Mundine as his “kindred spirit”, and said he would promote a philosophy of commercial development and self-help at the helm of the council.

    “He is a natural leader and a forthright advocate for Indigenous Australia,” Mr Abbott said in a statement.

    “I hope to be a prime minister for Aboriginal affairs and am delighted that Warren Mundine has taken up the call to be part of this journey.

    “If lasting change is to be achieved in this area, it has to be broadly bi-partisan and embraced by Aboriginal people rather than simply imposed by government.”

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