Rostrum: Sawadee Kap Edition

I’m posting here because the other thread is getting too cumbersome for mobiles.

Rudd hasn’t boganised the office, he’s taken it up about 3 levels from Gillard.

On the other hand, Abbott is likely to become the Shane Warne of the office. With spacfiller or botox or something over the wrinkles, a very rich and unusual shade of chestnut brunette hair dye.

I don’t mind speedos for ocean swimming, but blokes who wear fake tan, use wrinkle treatment and dye their hair …aren’t up to the job.

Have the shrieking Lefties realized that they have one man to blame for the likely election of Tony Abbott as PM.

His name ???????????????????????

Gordon Grech

LOL

Otherwise Malcolm would be PM

One moment more than any other signalled the beginning of the end for this Labor government. It’s a moment from which they’ve never recovered and one the Australian people will never forget. Ugh!

Busted !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Egg and scaper are the same person

http://futureparty.org.au/policy/summary/#CharterCity

I suppose it proposes a satelite city and high speed rail.

Though scaper wants his city to be located in a fly blown dustbowl about 600 kms west of Mt Isa.

ROFLMAO

Are you sure about them KL ?

”The Future Party believes strongly in using markets as a means to achieve competition for success and to gauge demand for products, technologies and lifestyles that individuals want. Market economies allows pluralism and diversity.”

http://futureparty.org.au/policy/6-economy/

Are you sure about them KL ?

Can you find any australian political party that doesn’t believe in markets, other than the Socialist Equality Party?

Further down, they redeem themselves by suggesting regulation and protection of the environment:

…The government also has a role to play in guiding the economy with macroeconomic policy, where the population desires a change, but existing structures make the transition non-responsive to the demand. In situations where competition encourages short sightedness or destruction (the tragedy of the commons), the government, as representatives of the people, should act to provide incentives to reduce waste and destruction. The natural environment is particularly prone to destruction as there are no real monetary incentives to corporations and individuals to avoid environmental destruction. The benefits of a healthy environment are shared by all people. Hence the time, money and effort that an individual puts into reducing their impact on the environment will be much greater than the personal benefit that the individual derives. The government therefore has a mandate from the people to act to protect the environment through multiple methods (with options for achieving this mandate ranging from incentives to penalties).

Capitalism may also be incapable of directing investment to benefit all of society in an efficient manner…

I’m thinking of trying this:

Saving your Senate vote:
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/saving-your-senate-vote/

Melbourne based activist Albert Langer has been annoying the Australian Electoral Commission for some years…
…He found an anomaly in the electoral system that allowed voters to mark their electoral ballots in the House of Representatives in such a way that this could happen. He was ultimately jailed for his efforts and the government changed the rules so that all votes would flow to the two big parties. They were scared.

In this case, the voter’s preferences up to position 4 would be distributed before the vote was exhausted…

Well I’m done, I didn’t go with the Langer protest vote after all, I thought it too risky, had no guarantee that my vote would still be counted and this is an important election!
Out of 82 for the senate, I have libs 77-82, labor 16-19, greens 3-5.

There’s a bit of controversy here in NSW. Seems that a party called the Liberal Democrats Party have scored the first column on the Senate ballot paper and confusion amongst some who think it’s the Liberal Party rules supreme.

3 Hours and 6 Minutes later
Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

Had to do my research walrus, check out all those indies and minor parties policies, wouldn’t want to accidentally give a higher preference to a christian fundy or something!

loose lips sink ships.

Liberals ire as Abetz goes ‘freelancing’:

…Tony Abbott’s industrial relations spokesman Eric Abetz has attracted internal criticism for ”freelancing” on future Coalition policy by suggesting an Abbott government would intervene in wage settlements if wage rates were too high.

…Fairfax Media understands that Senator Abetz has been advised to avoid further interviews…

Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/liberals-ire-as-abetz-goes-freelancing-20130822-2seh8.html#ixzz2cloXaU7U

“but the reality is that the “right” has been mounting a sustained attack on the public sector for at least the last thirty years. ”

Well that did not happen under Howard. Rudd condemned Howard in 2007 for letting the PS get too big and said he was going to take a meat axe to the PS.

It is amazing that people believe what they want to believe not what actually happened.

My opinion is that the PS should be as small as possible. It takes money from the private sector and a lot of the money taken is wasted.

“It is amazing that people believe what they want to believe not what actually happened.”

Somebody get that man a mirror! 😯

Thanks for sharing your voting machinations, KL.

Much food for thought.

I virtually get a double vote, coz my partner couldn’t give two squirts & will vote for whomever I suggest.

Yesterday I posted at Bolt’s blog!

I said that Abbott was comfortable in make up, with his fake tan, wrinkle treatment and died hair.

The moderators allowed it!

Bolt is clearly fair!

‘Dyed hair’?

What sort of ‘intelligent retorts’ did your sarcasm induce?

Exhibit A- It is amazing that people believe what they want to believe not what actually happened.

Exhibit B- i have made up my mind.

Worth repeating to social conservatives…

The world isn’t out to get you…it just doesn’t care. 😉

Bolt is blatantly biased, everyone knows that, but on his blog he has always allowed alternative comments.

Not so, I can recall numerous times in the past when my comments were not published, same with albrechtsen’s ‘blog’, I don’t even bother reading any of them anymore unless toilet happens upon something to share. I wouldn’t give them the clicks.

‘there’…d’oh!

Maybe.

No maybe about it.

Neither myself, nor KL, have any reason to lie about it.

Bolt is supremely selective in what he publishes.

What you see in his comments section is but a sliver of what’s posted by dissenters.

But whatever. As Neil says…people believe what they want to believe not what actually happened.

#andguestofhonouratfunctionsIwouldneverattend

‘Neither myself, nor KL, have any reason to lie about it.

No, even I have been knocked on the head over there, but I assumed (as my comments were inoffensive) they didn’t have the moderators.

‘Bolt is supremely selective in what he publishes.’

This needs to be tested under controlled conditions, to avoid bias.

The 2 policies that the Libs use as the big differentiators are disasters-

1. Asylum seekers, they just look more stupid each day. Buying boats!! All the boats in Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia are now for sale (at a premium) to the incoming Australian Government.
2. PPL- unfunded, and unsupported. It’s a reasonable aspiration, but looks stupid as a big bang policy approach.

The ALP is paying for the Gillard/Swan debacle.

Is paying.
My typing is off because I feeling sick having just read that TA is blaming JG for bringing Parliament into disrepute. That man is trying to hide his bovver-ness so he can put one polished foot on the World Stage where narcissists believe they belonging. Mr Spanky Clean. Mr Upright. mr Charm Itself. Mr Man-of-Vision (limited, very), mr Statesman. How he has honed and polished himself for the role. His idea of grace and elegance. He looks like a rough-head shearer dressed up for his first dance. His mum having slicked down his hair with spit on a hanky. He would not look out of place among the mannikins in a Myer window circa 1953. Smooth, shiny, eyes a-sparkle. What sort of man gets himself up like that?

Re above: I have noted all misssspellings, punktuation errors, poore sentince construckshons etc and do not require the assistense of gramer polis.

I am simply appalled at the state of political discourse in this land of the self-satisfied. What is going on when each week the two main parties devise upstaging cruelties to asylum seekers. I would like to see TA and Scott M and K Rudd face a life and death situation which involved fleeing their homelands. They would be on the first conveyance with their elbows turned out. But they are the very model of a Christian gentleman.

Libs are ‘mean little people’: Keating:

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/libs-are-mean-little-people-keating-20130824-2shz4.html

…”It came from the policies of the Labor government.
“It didn’t come from the Tories. They know what they’re against. They never know what they’re for.”
Mr Keating credited Labor for creating equity in health, superannuation, education and now disability care.
“The others never do these things. They’re always mean. Mean little people,” he said.
“No imagination, no bigness and no heart.
“Just the natural cycle means every now and then they get another go.”…

https://twitter.com/_davidlucas_/status/371078640127074304

http://thehoopla.com.au/abbott-punch/

Even more, I loathe a bully boy who can’t resist going back for One. Last. Punch…

IPA you can number yourself among the conned. By comparison with Rudd and Abbott Julia Gillard straight-forward. I have no illusions about any politician and I have some sympathy for their contortions. After all it must be a nightmare having to appeal to an entire population. That said she was, by all accounts, a charming, funny, intelligent, warm and hard working woman. She was a grown up person. Abbott and Rudd are anything but: spoiled, petulant, boring show-offs.

‘This is how propaganda works.’

Propaganda is essentially the truth, sprinkled with a few fibs. This can be best illustrated with climate change, the temperatures are rising so it must be CO2 and humans doing it.

Gillard used her femininity when it suited her, and objected to her being treated differently on the basis of her sex.

• Her “young and naïve” excuse for having a fraudulent criminal hack boyfriend, who was also her client, was an excuse only available to a mid 30s woman. A male of similar age would have been justifiably ridiculed.

• Her manner with the likes of Kerry O’Brien – “oh Kerry, how can you say that” **giggle** **bat eye lashes** **blush* and **giggle** again, was only available as a woman’s defence.

Gillard dragged politicians reputations into new depths, ably supported by Swan.

Tom! Why should’nt she behave like a woman. She is one. Margaret Thatcher battered her eyes too. Why should women in this country be as stitched up as the men. Show me a photo of any group of men in this country and it will show everyone standing with their hands crossed in front of their zippers. European men stand together with their arms about one another, they kiss each other. They are at ease with each other and they like women. I do not think many Anglo Celt males display the same ease with themselves let alone with women. One of the greatest obstacles for an ambitious woman is that she cannot be feminine.

Fair enough Egg. Propaganda is in the eye of the beholder I guess.

I am not getting sucked into your rubber room Egg. You are there for a reason. I happen to take note of real eggheads like Prof Peter Doherty

Addressing

‘With one exception … as you well know, egg,’

Hmmmm……

A vision of what? Will it have wings?

Keating was always a good judge.

Roethke has painted with words. I can see the lot. And smell it. Some people are supernaturally gifted.

Oh well we will all be so hot soon we will live forever.

Sorry, had a work interruption, will continue now.

She was a grown up person. Abbott and Rudd are anything but: spoiled, petulant, boring show-offs.

You are right there dianne, those two are so full of their arrogant, vainglorious selves! gillard will be remembered for doing much more in office than those two ever will, and doing it with good grace, humour, humility and compassion, something those two would know little about.

Gillard used her femininity when it suited her, and objected to her being treated differently on the basis of her sex.

*BS, the sexism and the attacks started from day one of her taking the job, she took a gutful before she hit back, she should have objected to being treated differently on the basis of sex, she should have been given the same respect, dignity and as male politicians

Her “young and naïve” excuse for having a fraudulent criminal hack boyfriend, who was also her client, was an excuse only available to a mid 30s woman. A male of similar age would have been justifiably ridiculed.

Abbott has behaved criminally as a minister in govt [ ‘get pauline hanson’ slush fund] and as opposition leader [ashby/slipper, lawler/jackson], we won’t talk of the aggro, anti-feminist male warrior from his his student days. It is in his nature to operate with criminal intent to get a desired political outcome, it’s what he does.

Her manner with the likes of Kerry O’Brien – “oh Kerry, how can you say that” **giggle** **bat eye lashes** **blush* and **giggle** again, was only available as a woman’s defence.

She is a woman and some women do those things, not that I think gillard did, can’t say I ever saw any batting of eyes and use of womanly wiles, I have a good antenna for those. By contrast, Abbott’s phony ‘ordinary bloke/master of all working trades’ is the fake, but you can’t see past your own prejudices to recognise it .

it was pretty obvious that some men just could not handle a woman being in charge. saw it as a huge threat to the male ego and perceived natural order of the system.

Gillard dragged politicians reputations into new depths, ably supported by Swan.

The politicians that allowed the attacks, designed and participated in them are the lowest of the low still. The opposition behaved like a pack of gangsters, thugs & molls.

The PM was not even allowed the decency, the human compassion, to grieve over the death of her father, the attacks continued unabated, that was unforgivable.

Interest free loans for apprentices. Do you reckon that is the ‘almost vision’ the country is craving Egg? There must be a healthy tradie vote out there. Remember Howard gave them all spanners etc.

Inscrutable Egg. Are you Chinese?

Don’t tell me that both are unimportant. Why else do male politicians wheel out their wives, daughters and grand-children? The family portraits speak volumes about love, devotion, loyalty, stability, security etc etc. All Julia had was a dog and Tim and look how they went for him.

They are not important to me, I vote for a person and their policy, I see their family/partners as irrelevant and an extra cost on the public purse. Besides, all those family portraits etc are just fake, the pretence of being a ‘normal’ family when they are anything but, the pollies are hardly ever home and having affairs galore, the kids raised by virtually single parent partners . It’s all selling of an image that nowhere near reflects a reality. Gillard was pilloried because she did not conform to and would not fake the ‘image’ of mr and mrs traditional & boring from dullsville. Who fkn cares whether she is married or has a child? how does that change how her mind works or how she implements policy? I agree that her genuine warmth, humour and charm was not allowed to shine. All those who worked with her on her own side plus the indies/greens all had a high regard for her and her personal management style, it is obvious that the ‘big swinging dicks’ of a bullying male politico-corporate culture had to ‘destroy’ what they could not accept, a negotiatory/compromise management style rather than the usual threat, graft and corruption.

I think men like tomM are not even aware of their own sexism, it is so ‘normalised’ in the culture. Everything that gillard did as a normal woman was seen as somehow ‘suspicious and not genuine’, which shows that women are still seen even at that level as ‘not to be trusted’ by men.
Abbott is as fake as hell, yet the dullsvilles have been completely taken in by the man and his self declared, born again & yet again, vision of a good and ordinary bloke. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, marketed and focus grouped for the sheeple. For people who say the economy is so important, they seem to be giving abbott an amazing dream run by allowing him to get away with not presenting any budget figures to the people. It’s the economy stupid but we’re not going to tell you anything about our plans for it, it’s all a big secret, just have faith and trust us!

gillard had to fight rudd, the almighty power of murdoch and abbott’s nasty dirt & propaganda machinery plus corporate power.
rudd has to fight murdoch in collusion with abbott, corporate power and abbott’s daily stunts/propaganda machine.
abbott just has to stand up straight, stick to the script and not show his true self, everyone else will protect him.

I hope the voters are cleverer than abbott/murdoch have given them credit for, hope the election is not such a shoo-in as planned – go the hung parliament.

BTW, Abbott still has a court case or two on the horizon hasn’t he? pro bono of course, he never ever has to suffer the consequences and accept responsibility for his own actions – someone else fixes everything for the golden boy born and primed to be the greatest.

tweeter chat room

guffaw

I think so dianne, get ready…

Hysterical laughter ensued …..

It is truly amazing that a person who, only yesterday, accused Gillard of lowering the tone, fronted a political launch which involved his deputy savagely trashing the character of his opponent. It seems too, from reports on twitter that Bishop made ref to a political mooning. Laughter in the house.

P van O is correct about some of the lib candidates but I would include the leader. Btw Armchair TA wheeled out two of the girls who made a our-dad-is-lovely speech. Families are important in politics.

Oh Tom. What can I say! I am glad you expect the same standards to apply equally to men and women. Take it from me they do not. What advantages did JG ever have because she was a woman? I can’t think of any. Her advantages were excellent parents who encouraged her. She is streets ahead of Abbott in intelligence, verve, wit and creativity. She has a keen common sense and a no nonsense approach to life. She is personable, warm and does not place herself on centre stage. She is a fully functioning adult. She is leaving politics with the best make-over I have ever seen. She looks great. Abbott on the other hand has employed poor stylists. I am voting for her in Red Texture.

In other nooze, NZ PM’s daughter caught in evocative attire.

UK Mail

No doubt Abbott’s daughters are very pleasant, but having your children prop up your political campaign is not a good look.
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Dianne, no male would ever have got away with a “young & naïve” excuse for hanging out with criminals and showing very poor professional judgement, but Gillard used this to excuse her behaviour as a mid 30s law partner!

Reb nothing you have said here surprises me. You men have no idea how far women accommodate you every day. If a few have thrown a tantrum they have been pushed too far. Let’s face it lads. Women are far more complex and interesting than you are only you don’t realize it because we are too kind to tell you.

And Tom you keep banging on about that union matter. All that stuff has been pored over and regurgitated by News Ltd for political reasons. Show me the proof. They hint and insinuate and devise misleading headlines. Nuffing of any substance. Fairfax is doing the same thing to James Hird at the moment. I look upon these pursuits with absolute loathing.

Its true that women are more complex than men, not sure why dog did that.

I can’t hear you Reb. I am in the office.

Geeeeez…

I really don’t want to get involved…but my own personal experiences tend to mirror Reb’s very closely. Such things, in turn, breed resentment.

Perhaps it was just the individuals involved?

I’ve made a point to bring up my daughter as a ‘person’…rather than an atypical female which seems to be expected by society. She has some great, ‘powerful’ female role models around her.
Gender should be negligible.

There are plenty of males out there with enough nouse not to bring gender into a professional environment.

And just to get up TB’s nose, they have changed the emphasis again because of the temperature hiatus.

not only TB —> go to your room and stay there!

It fucks me off that society raises us as ‘women’ v ‘men’. It’s a nonsense…apart from the obvious biological differences & the undeniable cyclical parabola.

We are the only ones who can change things, it is in the parenting, stop raising girls to always play with dolls, teasets, make-up & pink things, telling them they are weak and need protecting by boys. Stop giving boys guns and war toys and telling them they are sissies if they want to play with a doll or better still don’t buy gendered toys, get educational stuff or let them choose what they want to play with. The gendered language and behaviours in society start at home. Where does the rape culture come from?

“not only TB —> go to your room and stay there!’

Fuck off.

pretty much the same contempt that you show for us all when you ignore and abuse the goodwill of commenters here. You’ve got your place to make your posts on CC and everybody knows where to find you if they wish to discuss anything in regard to that. Yet you continually ignore the rules that you agreed to and derail every single thread with your denier crap. It is not cute, funny or even eccentric, just tedious and tiresome. You fuck off.

I’ve seen women throw tantrums in the office, yelling at subordinates and even bursting into tears and storming out of boardrooms. Men on the other hand just tend to get impatient when things dont go to plan.

That doesn’t quite seem to be my experience of male behaviour, men never shout, swear, bang their fists on tables, yell or threaten others, act aggressively? Always cool, calm and rational under pressure, always appropriate in behaviour to women?

Women get teary when emotional, tears of frustration, anger, joy. It doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with their thinking and ability. Men don’t, they express themselves differently, why can’t either behaviour be acceptable and normal rather than the woman seen as unstable or lacking somehow just because it’s not the way a man would behave and is most comfortable with?

dianne
Agree that family is important in the campaigns, increasingly more so as our politics resembles US presidential politics. It’s just not important to me, the partner and kids being highlighted and ‘sold’ as if they are celebrities as is happening with abbott’s daughters [BTW, what a nice gift from daddy – a PPL befitting of the socialites-soon-to-breed]

re yesterday’s subject of gillard, did you see this on guardian?

Julia Gillard will not attend Labor launch, says Rudd:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/25/julia-gillard-not-labor-launch

nice to see comments allowed [unlike murdoch’s opinion pieces]:

…Shame on Australians for not recognising Julia Gillards excellence.
I miss her brains, humour, warmth and strength of character. What a superb first female PM for Australia.
Outsiders are shaking their heads wondering how such a modern, could-be country are actually backward-thinking and unsophisticated.
Abbott and Rudd are E-grade next to Julia Gillard. History will tell…

…Lil_Andy
25 August 2013 7:50am
Her father would be proud of her.
Rob Oakeshott, 2013
Julia Gillard has done enough for this country…

No expense spared by the deep pockets of industry when they want to buy an election win for their puppet:

The Coalition’s Twitter madness:
http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/the-coalitions-twitter-madness/

Mobius shed a tear at the sight of Min in the chapel.

Well, I’m an old fashioned romantic when it comes to matters of the heart. So I say – that’s nice and good luck.

“All those atheists in a chapel……”

Very good point James

Someone called Hypocrisy probably witnessed their signatures

Will the Daily Trash bid for the Wedding Photos ?

Will the Daily Trash publish the wedding photos ?

Diddums.

jesus tragics think atheists shouldn’t be allowed in chapels? 🙄

god promoters are so fickle.

Funny how the internet has brought people together…and driven them apart.

Created ‘soulmates’…and bitter enemies.

“That’ll really inspire the markets …”

Up goes the Oil price and Gold heads North as well

Go Woodside………………….Go Santos

Go Newcrest Go

“So I say – that’s nice and good luck.”

I agree. Good luck to them both. Judging by Taylor’s past form Min’s going to need it.

“Is there a new poll out somewhere with the ALP infront?”

LOL

Only when YOU shut your eyes and Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz tonight will that come true for ya.

When you wakey wakey tomorrow morning you will have moved a day closer to the Deathstar Touchdown.

“Judging by Taylor’s past form Min’s going to need it.”

But Min will now be in charge of the life support switch

Yikes !

“It’s important to put all this in the context of priorities,” he said. “If we were to build this entire 1750 km high speed rail project from Brisbane to Melbourne by 2035, it would cost less than Mr Abbott’s unaffordable, unfair paid parental leave scheme for the same period of time. Put that into context.”

Kevin Rudd in the Oz

“… it would cost less than Mr Abbott’s unaffordable, unfair paid parental leave scheme for the same period of time. Put that into context.”

What an idiot you are Kevin.

What’s your context you total fucking moron

tom watson on Q&A was a breath of fresh air to our stinking tea bag inspired politics. The english parliamentarians can remain civil to each other even though they have opposing policies, they even answer questions and perform real inquiries that benefit the public.
Our teabag imported politics has done nothing but drag reputations and the parliament into the gutter, people loathe them all and there is no progress. How I long for some intelligent debate and informed views, instead we get kelly dwyer type scripted attacks that just turn people off.

Rupert would like to put out a contract for a hit on tom watson and his team, I feel sure that there are plenty of liberal connections to people who could manage that quite well, perhaps abbott, brandis, the qld libs and the AFP are organising it as we speak!

If history is any guide, and it is, VFT will never happen …

Australian Very Fast Trains – A Chronology

Yeah, the VFT is history.

Hyperloophyperloophyperloop…………very, very fast travel.

(Erm, the VST is history?)

Why are we talking about Trains………….?

First we had………. “Stop the Boats”……………………………………..then we had…………. “Buy the Boats”……………………now Kev wants to …………….”Move the Boats”

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/garden-island-naval-base-faces-closure-under-kevin-rudd-20130826-2smcd.html

Kev seems to have very strange ideas on how to win votes in Sydney

(soon*)

Fascinating history, Meta.

A couple of Kenyans time share a wife.

Daily Terror

The incoming government is creating a new market for old boats. This just causes a price increase.

The people smugglers will simply charge 120 asylum seekers an extra $2k each, to cover the increased price of a boat.

It is the most stupid policy I can recall.

ARE THEY SERIOUS?

It would be cheaper all round if we brought in the 20,000 wannabe Australians and plonked them in the middle of this big sandy island with five star accom….

WELCOME ALL WHO ENTER HERE

Julian Assange is Nasking?!
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When political populism intersects with foreign policy, watch out!

That’s where Abbott is, and dismissing the concerns of senior MP of our nearest neighbour is typically dumb adventurism.

Abbott is a cowboy and Talcum is silly. Its policy on the run by the incoming government.

“But that’s OK?”

Well……….scribbling out an NBN policy and costing on the back of an envelope in a VIP Jet one afternoon apparently was OK

…and Abbott’s policy on poker machines is a disgrace too!

Roflmao@ Hird!

“So just how accurate ARE Galaxy Polls … LOL”

Clive Palmer on Lateline agrees

You and Clive are as one on this critical issue

Excellent TB

Proof

You are a Nutcase !

😉

Name dropper !

unfknbelievable

Clive Palmer ADMITS he “used to give large donations” to polling companies to influence the result! #AusPol #Lateline http://t.co/ppFEIw0Luq—
Kiera (@KieraGorden) August 27, 2013

Believe in Clive at your own risk

LOL

Feel better now ?????????????????

Can someone tell me how Hird gets his hair to go like that ?

“Can someone tell me how Hird gets his hair to go like that ?”

Yesterday, it would have been sickly cheating, giving his hair volume…today it is probably crocodile tears.

No reason to trudge through the mundane partisan commentary at Cafe Rohypnol any more. They put their pet down, apparently.

‘I think the rockshifter has been banned at teh cafe…’

It was only a matter of time, Migs just kept him on to get up our noses.

“NOBEL PEACE PRIZE UPDATE: Obama Seeks a ‘Coalition of the Willing’ on Syria. Hmm. Seeking a coalition of the willing to take down an Arab Ba’athist dictator over WMDs. Where have I heard this before?”

Methinks they will only go after the dictator with drones, seeking a precision kill with little collateral damage.

Just as well they got rid of that dumb cowboy Bush.

Some friends in the US think it is much more civilised these days. Michelle O has nice arms too, according to those that know.

There is little doubt that clandestine US aggression has escalated under Obama.

What would Noam do? 😯

Yes it would be good to see the Assad regime toppled and Al Qaeda gets their hands on some proper weapons of mass destruction. Bombing trains and nightclubs and embassies and crashing planes into buildings is so old school terrorism

If just about everyone agrees they should take out the dictator in a precision strike, what harm in that?

After eliminating Syria’s leader they could then move onto North Korea’s supreme leader, ducks in a pond with state of the art drones.

Abbott isn’t exactly popular IATW, a drover’s dog.

“If just about everyone agrees they should take out the dictator in a precision strike, what harm in that?”

Be careful what you wish for !

Just let the A-rabs sort out their own shit for a change I say

And the Russians, what of them?

Insightful.

Meanwhile over at the Cafe since 11am and before 4:33pm there have been approximately 29 posts.

28 of the have been from their village idiot Catching Up.

As usual the Owner is just full of the usual pathetic bullshit.

Scaper is posting again

But…

I

in

same

as

Catching Up

…it would appear busier!

“We could discuss the makeup…

Are you referring to the fake tan or the hair dye?

“Oh c’mon TB……………..there’s a Leftie in the White House”

Exactly!

Imagine if it was Bush running the drone program. The wailing and gnashing of teeth would be deafening. Instead, we get *crickets*

Wow

What a victory for Tony.

It was 100 to Gotta Zip

Bombing Syria is quite likely to play well with a majority of US citizens.
Unleashing their arsenal on foreigners makes them swell with national pride, on many occasions. No matter who is potus at the time.

Geoff Gallop and Michael Kroger on Lateline.

Gallop is looking just stupid.

Cringeworthy

Noticed the Syrian Electronic Army has been active in Australia, these are the sorts of people who should be droned.

“Syrian Electronic Army”

Sounds like a currently touring rock band

#rightardsourgrapesandshoulderchips

(Wait, wat, wai…

“Five syllables here
Seven syllables there
Are you happy now?”)

Not confused at all.

You keep bringing up all kinds of things which have nothing to do with Syria. Attempting to create some skewed, overarching narrative about leftist bias. I agree with you about parts of it…but you’re trying to sew incongruent parts together.

Confusing US administrations as leftists is ridiculous. 🙄

“Confusing US administrations as leftists is ridiculous.”

I’ve made no comment about US administrations being leftist or otherwise. That’s a different argument. My comments on this topic are directed at those blog commenters who screeched like banshees about various “transgressions” under a Republican administration but are conspicuously silent now their messiah occupies the White House.

It’s blatant hypocrisy.

It is amusing, though, that now Obama has proved every bit the hawk Bush was, maybe more so, the argument becomes “oh he’s not really a leftist anyway”.

Boston Herald: “Asked to say whether she 
approves launching a strike against Syria, [U.S. Senator Liz] Warren’s press 
office — which churns out releases regularly on financial industry abuses — did not get back to the Herald.

“This is curious because Warren and other Massachusetts Democrats had been harshly critical of the Bush administration’s handling of the war in Iraq. But now it’s different because Barack Obama is president and her former Senate colleague, John Kerry, is secretary of state.

“We don’t take it personally, though. She showed similar 
reluctance a few months ago to comment on Obama’s decision to arm rebels against Syrian President Bashar Assad after he 
was accused of using chemical weapons.”

Splatter I think you left out getting the IRS to do special investigations of his political foes as well

“A few more questions before we start bombing Syria”

Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2013/08/a_few_more_questions_before_we.php#ixzz2dKJgZU78

Obama is not, and never was, my messiah.

I don’t have a messiah of any description & I am not an ideologue.

You are ranting in a vacuum…& making comparisons between Syria & Iraq is bullshit. Although I notice you’re no longer pressing that.

Put simply, the US is never likely to elect a POTUS who isn’t of a fairly narrow spectrum, digestible to the peculiar US public.

I for one am not surprised in the least by hawkishness. It is endemic to the position.
I could level many of the same sort of equivalences at the right…but not on my smartphone.

“Obama is not, and never was, my messiah.”

Why do you assume I was referring to you. Still, if the cap fits …

“It seems to be that he must be a Sunni, not a Shi’ite.” 😯 😀

“I don’t wear caps.”

My mistake. That was Sancty.

“Poor diddums dubya.”

“What a mindless retort.”

Yes.

Popcorn ????

#pjmemefactory

Can’t watch it where I am now, TB.

Will have to check out all links later.

Meta’s are always illuminating.

As I see it, TB, their disparaging of Obama is no less politically motivated than The Left.

In a situation like Syria its straight out of West Wing, the president takes strategic and political advice.

Going after a nasty piece of work has its dangers, but a bipartisan agreement by the Security Council that an individual is wanted dead or alive, to face justice hopefully, should have a sobering effect on other dictators.

Politically its a factional nightmare, they all sound as bad as each other.

Don’t forget a huge number of Russian “influentials” are very very angry about what happened to their cash in Cyprus after the EU took a huge slice of it.

HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!

Incredible news!!

A rich guy, head of a company, has an affair with a 26 year old!! I don’t know whether that has ever happened before, but it might have.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/googles-co-founder-sergey-brin-wife-anne-wojcocki-split-up/story-e6frfro0-1226707189842

Kevin has a $10 Billion Dollar Black Hole.

Now the ALP is just looking dumber and dumber and completely unfit for Office.

Good to see Bowen will likely lose his seat. He has conducted a disgraceful campaign against his Liberal opponent and he’s really looking baaaaaaaad.

“So if Abbott & The Acolytes do take office we stand to lose …”

LOL…………………Yes the Deathstar is landing in a neighbourhood near you

“Joe Hockey retreats from doing the same …”

Probably also because there is very little incentive to get back to Surplus quickly. The LNP does not want to piss off its newly won over voters too much. They will be quite happy to continue “parading” the slowly reduced “ALP Debt/Deficit” legacy for at least the next 2 elections after this one.

The Rudd/Gillard years will hang like a millstone around the ALPs neck for years to come.

Anyone else noticed that 730’s appearances on this blog have a positive correlation to the fast diminishing number of days to polling ?

LOL

‘…big spending conservatives.’

I’ll leave that for nils to refute.

Yes!
°The formatting is impressive©
°The arrow points show a degree of intelligence not normally found in Queenslanders

It feels like the silly season, with the election and early spring. Before I forget, the bureaucrat who dreamed up pre polling is a genius and should be given a medal. Its very popular amongst the masses.

Just curious.

Either an act of fantasy, or an illegality has been undertaken, apparently.

I’m leaning towards the former, given the source.

‘Whoever wins the election Australia will lose.’

Abbott isn’t so bad and he should settle into the big chair comfortably, being a political animal first class.

If he doesn’t win both houses….

Abbott isn’t so bad…

Yes he is, it’s just that compared to Gillard he looked about level pegging. Now that there is a decent choice, he looks underprepared, unintelligent and inarticulate.

By the way isn’t every bomb

A chemical weapon ?

Are the “good bombs” only those that you hear just before you die ?

The next minister for agriculture and food security said “its unlikely we’ll have a double D because Rudd won’t want to take it on”.

What a novel thought, anyhoo you heard it here first.