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Abbott: “This isn’t the Government You thought it was…”

December 2, 2013

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The following article is by Tony Shepherd and originally appeared at the Adelaide Advertiser

 

Gonski was no political whimsy. It was the product of years of investigation into how schools are currently funded and how they can best be funded in the future to get better overall outcomes and tackle disadvantage.

An independent panel headed by businessman David Gonski pored over 7000 submissions and talked to experts and eventually came up with a model.

They recommended a core funding amount for every student, topped up with a loading if a student is disadvantaged so the school can invest in extra resources.

The scheme in the end was infested with politics as the states used the Gillard Government’s desperation to sign them up to barter for a better deal, but the theory was sound.

And now the Coalition Government wants to ditch the whole thing and start again.

Hardly anyone supports the move. Schools, who which were each guaranteed a specific amount of cash, want the Gonski reforms. Principals, churches, charities, parents, and a broad range of luminaries have united to call on the Government to keep it.

Gonski panel members are gobsmacked. Premiers from both sides of politics lined up to slam Mr Pyne. But, after having flip-flopped on the issue Mr Pyne has found a sudden firmness of spirit, and so Gonski really will be Gone-ski, as the headline writers love to say, from 2014.

Political lesson: if you’re going to enrage the states, antagonise lobby groups and mess with anything that involves parents and children, do it at the very beginning of an election term and hope for nationwide short-term memory loss.

Mr Pyne and Prime Minister Tony Abbott – who had pledged a “unity ticket” on Gonski with Labor – now argue that promise only applied only to the overall amount of funding, rather than the actual Gonski model.

If that’s true, Australia has just voted in a Government that went to the election without much of an education policy.

If it’s not true then what we have seen is one of the more dastardly examples of weasel words and broken promises.

And we have seen very recently the power of a broken promise to mortally wound a nation’s leader.

Former prime minister Julia Gillard’s broken promise on a carbon tax was a large part of her undoing. It was a large part of Mr Abbott’s success.

It led legions of loudmouthed buffoons to refer to her as Juliar, while others waved signs that referred to the then-PM as “Bob Brown’s Bitch”.

All that blithering incandescent rage was over a bastard compromise that Labor let itself be manoeuvred into.

Meanwhile, the Coalition’s backflip on Gonski is arguably worse.

It’s not a result of Realpolitik but of ideology.

They never really liked Gonski but political expediency made it all too tempting to form that “unity ticket” and now they’re reverting to type.

Mr Pyne’s one advantage as the states, the people and the arguments line up against him is that too many people never really understood what Gonski was anyway, or what it would mean for them.

There was a very good website that had plenty of detailed, specific and useful information about Gonski (also known as the Better Schools Plan once Kevin Rudd reassumed his position and tried to distance the policy from Ms Gillard’s legacy).

However, that website was made “temporarily unavailable” at the start of October and now appears to be permanently unavailable. It redirects to the Education Department homepage.

The plan’s supporters have adopted the tagline “I give a Gonski”, but that does not have the facile catchiness of “Axe the tax” so it’s unlikely that this broken promise will prove a death knell of this Government.

Having said that, this has opened up a front that could fester. So why did they do it?

The impetus, Mr Pyne argues, was that more than a billion dollars was missing from the education budget.

It is true that Labor reabsorbed that money when three states didn’t sign up for it, but that was revealed in August, so the Coalition knew about it before the election.

It may be that the new Government just wants to eradicate anything that came from the old.

That is certainly part of the modus operandi. While the honeymoon may be over, there is enough fondness left, probably, for the Government to keep blaming the former government and get away with it.

How long they’ve got before ­blaming Labor gets tired isn’t clear, but for now Mr Pyne can blame “Saboteur Shorten” and “Shortfall Shorten”.

And he can talk about “Shorten’s Shambles” but he’d better stick to one if he wants to make it stick at all.

It may also be that the Government, which is predominantly white, middle-class, private-school educated men, wants a better deal for independent schools.

That’s certainly the impression some came away with after last week’s meeting between Mr Pyne and the state education ministers.

The funding for independent schools is locked in, for public schools not so much, and the pool of available cash has shrunk – the cupboard is bare, Mr Pyne says.

Mr Pyne is a Saint Ignatius College alumni with a plummy voice whose patch includes leafy suburbs such as Burnside, so it’s not such a great look if he does start trying to yank funding from the poor old public and Catholic schools.

Still, at least he got an excellent education, and hopefully that will help him come up with something better than the Gonski panel’s effort. Time will tell.

 

 

 

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112 Comments leave one →
  1. December 2, 2013 10:26 am

    “We are going to keep the promise that we actually made, not the promise that some people thought that we made, or the promise that some people might have liked us to make.”

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-01/abbott-on-gonski/5127330

  2. December 2, 2013 11:14 am

    “Still, he got an excellent education” Now he want’s to ensure that very few others can.
    Education and intellect are no sign of intelligence and Pyne has neither.

  3. December 2, 2013 11:30 am

    The more they spin, the deeper the hole gets. Don’t they ever learn ????????

    My cartoon on broken promises . . . .

    http://cartoonmick.wordpress.com/editorial-political/#jp-carousel-805

    Cheers

    Mick

  4. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 11:47 am

    ee, I always agree with your comments … !! 🙂

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So where are the Opposition in all this … have they been bullied into submission or has Paul Howes and his cronies done a deal?

    Just who IS running the country … and for whom? 😦

  5. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 12:00 pm

    Seems I may not be alone in my thinking about the ALP …

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/open-labors-push-to-reform-the-party/story-e6frfku9-1226773229206

  6. December 2, 2013 12:42 pm

    Thanks, TB. For more of my thoughts on the subject;
    http://mugwumpost.wordpress.com/australia-welcome-to-bates-motel/

  7. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 12:46 pm

    Mmmmm … as I said, ee … 😯

  8. December 2, 2013 12:48 pm

    I feel like I’m in a horrible nightmare.

  9. egg permalink
    December 2, 2013 2:37 pm

    ‘Education and intellect are no sign of intelligence and Pyne has neither.’

    Pyne should be sacked from the Ministry and replaced with Hunt.

  10. December 2, 2013 2:43 pm

    Even Herr Bolt is having a hard time reconciling Pyne’s abuse of ‘good faith’ & the documentary record. Although, he can’t bring himself to use the appropriate “L-word” which he overused with gay abandon on his daily mission to topple Labor.

    I note the same is true of his conservative fellow travellers, here & elsewhere in the blogosphere. Those same who refused to play semantics with the likes of Gillard & her obfuscative ‘lies’.

  11. December 2, 2013 2:46 pm

    The very manner of Pyne grates. The arrogant, blatant dismissive relabelling of black as white grates to the bone.

    Neil of Sydney, please sally forth with apologetics & your earnestly believed ‘look-over-there-ALP-voters-kill-people’ heraldry; your Abbott needs you & complicit silence isn’t a rearguard defence.

  12. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 3:39 pm

    Toillette, ’tis very quiet on the debating floor here …

    … perhaps the “usual suspects” are off trying to assist the KKK of the media waves … Bolt, Albrechtson, Jones et al …

    … to convince everyone that Abbott & The Acolytes have turned out to be more than the spawn of the John Howard Private School Bullies … they are the spawn of something far more invidious!

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 3:54 pm

    LOL! Amateurs at work … or pollies at play …

    http://www.news.com.au/money/investing/gonski-reform-school-funding-plan-is-back-on/story-e6frfmdr-1226773425963

    What a bunch of Fuckwits™ … everyone else could see the truth and they thought they’d have a Churchillian moment … fool the people some of the time … welcome (back) to the 21st Century …

    I’m gonna love the spin on this backflip … 🙄

    And we know that Noddy Newman and the other “hold out” state premiers were only playing politics before the Federal election … the government gazumped itself … and Whinee Pynee shit in his own bed …

    When they get out of the “opposition” mindset they just might wake up to the reality that they are supposed to be running the country for everyone … not just the rich and stupid …

  14. December 2, 2013 3:55 pm

    The first of many Coalition ‘Carbon Tax’ moments, TB.

    Hands up anyone whose mind is stained with the incessant clamour of conservative screeching about JuLIAR? 😯

    Abhorrence of opportunist political deceptions must be a partisan phenomenon, for some. How surprisement. 🙄

  15. December 2, 2013 3:59 pm

    Now I’m confused…

    So most of the voting population didn’t misunderstand the lies Coalition’s attempts to neuter the ALP on education during the election campaign?…or they did? duuuuuuhr…

  16. December 2, 2013 4:07 pm

    That’s hilarious TB…..!

    It’s a “courageous” government indeed that takes on parents, teachers and school kids by threatening to strip out previously agreed funding..

    What an abysmal pack of amateurs this govt is proving themselves to be…

    Honestly, is there anything they can’t stuff up?

  17. December 2, 2013 4:09 pm
  18. December 2, 2013 4:09 pm

    I bet they’ll get the TPP ‘right’.

  19. December 2, 2013 4:10 pm
  20. paul permalink
    December 2, 2013 4:11 pm

    Give them a chance reb, they have only been in three months, there is still plenty more for this govt to stuff up, and stuff up again and again, just waiting for inane to fully indorse this pathetic and incompetent govt and how well they are doing.

  21. December 2, 2013 4:13 pm

    I honestly got the impression that Pyne thought that by claiming day was night he’d bamboozle us all & the deceit would be quickly obscured & forgotten.

    Hmmmmm…

  22. December 2, 2013 4:14 pm

    Looking forward to the rationalisations of political lie reversals by Inane & cohorts.

  23. December 2, 2013 4:16 pm

    Soooo…they really weren’t the droids we were looking for…and everything does seem to be in order.

    The Force works in mysterious, some would say ‘highly cynical’, ways.

  24. December 2, 2013 4:19 pm

    “There will be no broken promises under this government.”

    LOL…. 🙂

  25. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 4:24 pm

    Now I’m confused… Somehow I doubt that, Ser T 😆

  26. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 4:29 pm

    But the rusty (always) rights are in short supply around here, hey … wonder why? 🙄

    And Noddy Newman is desperately trying to tell us how PUP is a “sad, sick political joke” … he needs to look in a fkn mirror … 🙄

  27. paul permalink
    December 2, 2013 4:34 pm

    So this coalition govt actually broke there own broken promise by going back to the original Gonski that they said they were on a unity ticket with the Labor party in which they called it a conski and was not fully funded and was a mess before the election until they were on a bipartisan trip with the ALP.

  28. December 2, 2013 4:36 pm

    Hodor!

  29. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 4:47 pm

    “You know nuthin’ “, John Sno’ 🙂

  30. December 2, 2013 4:50 pm

    Hodor of Sydney

    Hodor of Nth Melbourne

    Hodor of South Yarra

    Hodor of the Deathstar

    Hodor of Centerlink

  31. egg permalink
    December 2, 2013 4:50 pm

    Ummm ….

  32. December 2, 2013 5:01 pm

    Hodor of Centerlink”

    Lol!!

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 5:21 pm

    LOL!

    Great list …

    Hodor Rockshifter …

    Hodor Farnham

  34. paul permalink
    December 2, 2013 5:31 pm

    A good article about the coalition and there lack of policies.

    Coalition’s fancy footwork on Gonski leaves policy underbelly exposed

    Tony Abbott would not have had to defy logic to try to justify his pre-election statements on school funding, and he would not have had to then capitulate and find the previously unavailable $1.2bn, if he had only gone to the election with an actual policy on school funding.

    The only other policy I can think that they have is going to be the failed Direct Action.

  35. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 5:40 pm

    And the next big stuff up is under construction right now …

    Two months into Malcolm Turnbull’s watch as communications minister, the NBN — which he promised to deliver “sooner, cheaper, and more affordably” — is in truth slowing down dramatically.

    According to NBN Co’s latest rollout figures, some 6,685 premises were connected in October, compared with 39,115 in September, 33,185 in August, and 18,072 in July. Just 3,082 additional connections were installed in the last week of October; compare this to 8,957 connections installed in the week ending July 14, when the rollout was (by comparison) humming along.

    Is Turnbull already losing his grip on the NBN?

    At the current rollout rate, NBN Co will have connected less than 500,000 new properties by the 2016 deadline, when Turnbull has promised to complete the first stage of his NBN.

    http://www.zdnet.com/fttp-or-fttn-the-nbn-is-already-slipping-from-turnbulls-grasp-7000022766/

    Born to fkn rule my arse … this bunch of turkeys couldn’t fins a smell in a fart factory …

    Worse, worser and worstest government I’ve ever seen …

  36. December 2, 2013 5:43 pm

    Abbott govt has erased Gonski from history…

    “The review was the most comprehensive in 30 years. It took 20 months to complete. It spans 300 pages. It attracted an extraordinary 7000 individual written submissions. Five of the six panel members held the Order of Australia. The government even gave the inquiry and the report their own website: http://www.schoolfunding.gov.au

    “But they are not there any more. Visits to http://www.schoolfunding.gov.au are redirected to the departmental website of minister Christopher Pyne, where there’s no mention of the word “Gonski” at all, let alone a copy of the report or its 7000 submissions.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/gonskis-gone-school-funding-review-struck-from-record-20131202-2yljm.html#ixzz2mIUEBQHd

    I reckon this has more to do with making sure that Gillard doesn’t leave a legacy than actually disagreeing with the reforms…

    That’s how vindictive the conservatives really are… 😯

    Speaking of which, where are all our usual tory suspects??

  37. paul permalink
    December 2, 2013 5:44 pm

    this is a comment on the guardian site, from about Don rumsfeld, then the Abbott

    “We know there are known knowns: there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns: that is to say we know there are things we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” —Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Defense Department briefing, Fe. 12, 2002

    “We are going to keep our promise. We are going to keep the promise that we actually made, not the promise that some people thought that we made or the promise that some people might have liked us to make. We’re going to keep the promise that we actually made.” Prime Minister Tony Abbott, The Bolt Report, December 1, 2013

    Great minds think alike. Think not.

  38. December 2, 2013 5:51 pm
  39. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 5:52 pm

    It attracted an extraordinary 7000 individual written submissions. Including mine …

    Speaking of which, where are all our usual tory suspects?? Indeed, Jummy! I made similar comments above …

    If you follow the link re NBN above, be sure to read the comments below …

  40. December 2, 2013 5:56 pm

    Coalition’s triple backflip on schools…

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/coalitions-triple-backflip-on-schools-20131202-2ylpt.html

  41. December 2, 2013 6:18 pm

    “The trouble is that Pyne confuses so convincingly. He pinballs out policy backflips so quickly that even the most ordered of brains are boggled within minutes.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/gonski-reversal-christopher-pynes-switches-leave-us-all-in-dark-20131202-2ylph.html#ixzz2mIdi2emE

  42. December 2, 2013 6:23 pm

    ” Indeed, Jummy! I made similar comments above …”

    I guess they must be busy grappling with what their speaking points are meant to be.

    We can’t really blame them… It’s difficult to keep up at this rate! 😆

  43. paul permalink
    December 2, 2013 6:27 pm

    This govt is going to confuse the voters of Australia so much that we will not know what is the truth and what is a lie, at least when they were in opposition, we knew where they were, opposed to everything that was Labor, the Greens, Independents or anything that was going to take this Great Nation forward.

  44. December 2, 2013 6:32 pm

    Paul, they’ll just do what Howard did – slash spending on everything that benefits low to middle income earners, then chastise us all for not congratulating them on how much $$$ they saved….. 🙄

  45. egg permalink
    December 2, 2013 6:47 pm

    Angling for a real job, the Bolter gives advice to our supreme leader.

    ‘Which raises the question: why in God’s name has this government so bungled the policy and the messaging that it earned a week of terrible headlines for – in the end – actually finding $1.2 billion that Labor ripped out?

    ‘Warning, warning, warning to the Liberals: you lack what Bob Hawke had in Peter Barron, what Margaret Thatcher had in Bernard Ingham and what John Howard had in Grahame Morris. A critical – and alternative – source of advice is missing. Someone as senior and trusted as is Peta Credlin, but in charge of communications, not delivery.’

  46. December 2, 2013 6:52 pm

    I think you mean “Your supreme leader” egghead…

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 6:57 pm

    … slash spending on everything that benefits low to middle income earners …

    And then look for another war to get involved in … about the only thing the tories spend any money on …

    … having said that, I was listening to a very senior ADF officer yesterday and he was saying the ADF budget will be slashed pretty heavily … at least as far as maintenance of equipment goes …

  48. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 7:02 pm

    … actually finding $1.2 billion that Labor ripped out? …

    No, Andrew, your spinning yer wheels quite a bit lot there … $1.2 billion that was put back into consolidated revenue because the Noddy states played silly buggers with Rudd and Gonski for politcal points to get the Acolytes elected into power … then the lies backfired on Abbott & The Acolytes .. ’cause they already knew where the $1.2 billion actually was …

    FMD! … call me a fkn fool but never, ever, treat me like one!

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 7:20 pm

    Now you would think that, news.com.au, would have the Abbott Acrobatics Team as the headline … but no, its, Clivey “Go” Palmer’s, maiden speech and a Coles boss on poor parking skills … 🙄

    http://www.news.com.au/

  50. egg permalink
    December 2, 2013 7:47 pm

    ‘I think you mean “Your supreme leader” egghead…’

    Of course, silly me, and thanks for the compliment.

  51. December 2, 2013 7:57 pm

    Suck it up princess…

    BTW, where are all your “friends…?”

  52. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 2, 2013 7:57 pm

    “And then look for another war to get involved in”

    It was Bob Hawke who led us into war against Irag in 1991 and we have been there ever since.

    Whoever is in power at the time tends to follow whatever the British or Americans want.

    “about the only thing the tories spend any money on …

    What is a tory?? Since this is Australia i don’t think i have actually met one.

  53. egg permalink
    December 2, 2013 8:23 pm

    ‘BTW, where are all your “friends…?”

    chuckle **

    Neil has arrived so we should get a lively debate going, I’ll just step out the back.

  54. December 2, 2013 8:27 pm

    “I think you mean “Your supreme leader” egghead…”

    indeed…

    I’m not hi/your/their bitch…not by a fucken long shot…

  55. December 2, 2013 8:59 pm

    “It was Bob Hawke who led us into war against Irag in 1991 and we have been there ever since.”

    Oh My Fucking (non) God”…You DENSE CUNT…

  56. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 2, 2013 9:09 pm

    Why am i dense??

    Did we have to take part in the Iraq war back in 1991?? I remember listening to the invasion on the radio. If was Hawke who took us to the middle east.

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 9:15 pm

    http://www.awm.gov.au/atwar/gulf/

    One UN sanctioned …. one not … guess which one Hawke supported and guess which one Howard supported …

    Only one invaded Iraq …

  58. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 2, 2013 9:22 pm

    But TB you have just done the leftoid sidestep.

    I was commenting on your statement that it is the Coalition who look for wars to get us involved in. It was Hawke who got us involved.

    And we don’t know what Labor would have done during the second Gulf was since they were not in power.

  59. TB Queensland permalink
    December 2, 2013 9:32 pm

    🙄 🙄

    Only tories sidestep around here … and I don’t feel like giving you another modern history lesson … its obviously not your best subject …

  60. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 2, 2013 9:37 pm

    It is a fact that Labor under Hawke got us involved in the First Gulf War in contrast to your statement that the Coalition only looks for wars to get us involved in.

    Your leftoid sidestep into whether the second war was legal or not is another topic.

  61. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 2, 2013 10:17 pm

    I see the lefties are all of a sudden interested in politicians keeping their promises. Too bad you did not have such an interest when Labor was in power.

    This was a biggie back in 2007.

    The NBN was going to cost $4.7B and be finished in 5 years which means it should have been finished last year. But gullible Aussies fell for Labors lies.

    Conroy actually cancelled signed contracts for building broadband in rural areas of Australia which was also a lie. He said in 2007 he would not break the signed contracts.

  62. paul permalink
    December 2, 2013 10:21 pm

    hey kneel, maybe you should be more worried about this Government then ancient History, oh that’s right, this Government can do no wrong according to you and Inane.

  63. December 3, 2013 7:17 am

    “Why am i dense??”

    Is that a rhetorical question?

  64. egg permalink
    December 3, 2013 7:40 am

    ‘I’m not hi/your/their bitch…not by a fucken long shot…’

    So sayeth the non-aligned.

  65. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 3, 2013 9:02 am

    Like Gillard, in the run-up to an election, the Libs made a promise they didn’t believe in for purely political purposes. Like Gillard, their reputation has been trashed. Unlike Gillard they have belatedly made some attempt to reverse their stupidity and keep their promise. In that respect they have shown a sense of shame at being caught out. That is something completely unthinkable in Unionland.

    The takeaways form this episode are that Pyne has enhanced his reputation as a meretricious blathering idiot, Abbott looks as shifty as ever and there is some hope of occasionally shaming this government into doing the right thing.

  66. TB Queensland permalink
    December 3, 2013 10:05 am

    And Barnaby looked and sounded even more stupid last night on Lateline … something I thought was impossibe … obviously there are no absolutes … 🙄

    I just know that there is more fun to come from, Abbott & The Acolytes … that big national/international hit is just around the corner … right now they are playing as individuals but once the group comes together it’ll be the biggests thing in showbiz …

  67. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 3, 2013 10:12 am

    You are certainly right about more fun to come TB! It is early days yet, but all indications are that this Coneheaded cabal will blow itself up sooner rather than later.

  68. December 3, 2013 10:22 am

    “Coneheaded cabal”

    😆

    It’s really hard to go past Christopher Pyne for someone who’s completely devoid from reality.

    Last night on 730 Reportland he was declaring that the last few days had been some sort of success stroke of genius for the Liberal Party….

    It’s just extraordinary….. 😯

  69. egg permalink
    December 3, 2013 10:28 am

    ‘And Barnaby looked and sounded even more stupid last night on Lateline’

    You’re biased.

    EMMA ALBERICI: The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission had no problems with this takeover proposal and said it was entirely within the Government’s remit to impose certain regulatory oversight to ensure that there was a fair market and fair market access.

    BARNABY JOYCE: Well, that’s a very good question, Emma, and what you actually saw with the ACCC analysis of this deal, Emma, was they just analysed the export side of the business. They didn’t analyse upstream, like the effect on farmers, and they didn’t analyse, Emma, downstream, the effect on the crushers and the millers. They just analysed one section of the deal. And one section of the deal in isolation is not a true reflection of the effect on our nation. And on a more wide and encompassing reflection, we got a completely different position. And there was a prominent law firm in Melbourne that did precisely this, HWL, and on the behest of their biggest shareholder, Don Seaton – who is going to make about I think a $30 million profit if he accepted the deal – and he said, “Look, this might be great for my back pocket, but it’s very bad for our nation.” And I think that’s a very admirable trait and one that was reflected by the Treasurer when he rejected the deal.

  70. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 3, 2013 11:07 am

    I think Christopher Pyne is hugely entertaining! He gets flustered, he blushes. There should be more of it.

    Shorten seems to lack interest and intellect. So that isn’t nearly as funny.

  71. TB Queensland permalink
    December 3, 2013 11:22 am

    egg, we can all cherry pick (but most of us generally include the link for the full story …

    If you think I’m biased you’re dead right … I’m a tax payer … how any of these fools get elected is beyond me …

    EMMA ALBERICI: You’d admit it’s been a bit of a confusing week for the public though.

    BARNABY JOYCE: Um, only confusing by reason that they were misled by the Labor Party, who said that they were going to deliver the full amount of money, and in their own financial statements, they weren’t. And then they tried to foist the confusion onto us and onto the general public. It was their problem, their problem who on ABC24 a week ago Chris Bowen admitted they were $1.2 billion short. Kate Ellis has also admitted it on another news network. Now we have to try and find the money and fix these problems up.

    EMMA ALBERICI: Well of course they say they didn’t allocate the $1.2 billion because they couldn’t get an agreement out of the two states and the territory to actually match the funding and to deliver the funding in the way the Gonski proposals had envisaged?

    BARNABY JOYCE: Well, Emma, why do they keep telling everybody it was a $2.8 billion agreement, when it quite obviously, quite evidently, even by your own admission, it was a $1.6 billion agreement? They weren’t being fair dinkum. They weren’t being upfront with us.

    …. and later ….

    EMMA ALBERICI: So your government has dealt with the needs-based issues?

    BARNABY JOYCE: Well, once more, we are making – like, this – once more, these are the problems that I’m aware of, but to be honest, you’re better to ask these questions to the Education Minister. I’m not being evasive, it’s just that these are the details that are better addressed to the appropriate minister.

    http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2013/s3903619.htm

  72. egg permalink
    December 3, 2013 12:27 pm

    Barnaby is right.

  73. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 3, 2013 1:52 pm

    “If you think I’m biased you’re dead right … I’m a tax payer

    Tooo funny. After going from one of the few countries in the world in 2007 with no net Federal govt debt to having something like $250B of net debt in just 6 years, TB starts to worry about the Federal govt wasting taxpayers money.

  74. Walrus permalink
    December 3, 2013 1:55 pm

    “Barnaby is right.”‘

    I watched it too and I could not understand why she kept on asking him about Education. It was just a pathetic attempt to trip him up on something outside his portfolio.

    He should have just told her upfront to speak to the Education Minister.

    A lot of time was wasted when he could have been more thoroughly questioned on Warnambool Cheese, Graincorp, Live Cattle Exports.

    I cant understand all this bleating about how terrible it was to reject the Graincorp takeover. Its been the most high profile rejection since Shell’s takeover of Woodside was rejected by Costello for good reasons.

    Why have a FIRB in the first place ?

  75. egg permalink
    December 3, 2013 1:56 pm

    Good point, Neil.

  76. Walrus permalink
    December 3, 2013 1:58 pm

    “… how any of these fools get elected is beyond me … ”

    LOL

    You on the Extreme Left tend to vote for those ones

    🙂

  77. egg permalink
    December 3, 2013 2:26 pm

    With global cooling fast approaching its in our national interest to keep GrainCorp.

  78. December 3, 2013 2:40 pm

    “With global cooling fast approaching its in our national interest to keep GrainCorp.”

    That makes a lot of sense. 🙄

  79. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 3, 2013 2:55 pm

    The reason the Medieval Warm Period (where temperatures were warmer than now) has historically been referred as the Medieval Climate Optimum is that humans thrived in the warmer climate, not least because there was more food about so populations had better nutrition. In cold periods like the Little Ice Age there is less food about, more people are malnourished and are more susceptible to disease, which is why plagues occur more commonly in such times.

    As usual, the dire predictions of climate alarmists about the decrease in food production which is supposed to accompany global warming have, in fact, proved to be the opposite of the truth.

    There is a theory that warming and cooling have more to do with solar activity than CO2 levels. If that is right and the current low level of solar activity continues and produces a reduction in temperature then not only will a lot of elderly people die of the cold, as now happens with cold winters, but global food production will decrease.

  80. egg permalink
    December 3, 2013 4:00 pm

    ‘That makes a lot of sense.’

    Food Security is a big issue, ask the Chinese.

  81. Walrus permalink
    December 3, 2013 4:02 pm

    Just ventured over to a certain Left leaning coffee shop and noticed that someone has changed their avatar.

    What’s he going to do for a face when King Kong wants his arse back ?

  82. egg permalink
    December 3, 2013 4:20 pm

    ‘…but global food production will decrease.’

    Fortunately we are better equipped these days to handle a long cool phase, with intelligently designed plants and an abundance of human induced CO2.

  83. TB Queensland permalink
    December 3, 2013 5:31 pm

    TB starts to worry about the Federal govt wasting taxpayers money

    Another assumption … I’ve always known that governments waste other people’s money … why should I start “worrying” now?

    You on the Extreme Left tend to vote for those ones

    Extreme? Der? As for “extreme” I wouldn’t throw rocks, Walter … 😯

    So, apart from being stupid etc. now we can add “worried” and “extreme” … amateur fkn psychologists … the Liberal Library of Insults & Lies must be working overtime these days …

  84. TB Queensland permalink
    December 3, 2013 5:32 pm

    Fortunately we are better equipped these days to handle a long cool phase, with intelligently designed plants and an abundance of human induced CO2.

    Got shares in Monsanto, Wally? 😛

  85. egg permalink
    December 3, 2013 5:45 pm

    ‘Got shares in Monsanto, Wally?’

    No, anyway you are missing the point. Nothing need necessarily change, business as usual, but there is a land hunger to grow the crops.

    China is eliminating their villages and agricultural land to develop cities for the 21st century and to feed their burgeoning middle class they will import the necessities of life.

    They see us as having the potential to become a very big food bowl, along with Africa, so we shouldn’t sell ourselves short to the first multinational that walks through the door with a wad of cash.

  86. Wally permalink
    December 3, 2013 6:02 pm

    “Got shares in Monsanto, Wally?”

    LOL

    Fuck I’m I hope you dont get picked for jury service anymore.

    You’d convict the wrong person

  87. December 3, 2013 6:16 pm

    Actually that headline should be “Court dismisses (some) charges”

    He’s still got to front up tomorrow to face the music on 140 other charges of fraud.

  88. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 3, 2013 6:28 pm

    it’s all a media beat up!

    …and think of the baby!

    (I’m out for some seasonal celebration!)

  89. Wally permalink
    December 3, 2013 6:29 pm

    “Fail”

    So what ?

    The “dismissal” is subject to appeal in Victoria and/or if that fails he’ll face those charges in NSW and/or Queensland.

    Lots of legal bills still to come for that c*nt !

  90. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 3, 2013 6:46 pm

    Bed Pann, if you like crooked pollies having charges against them dropped you must be ecstatic that Geoff Shaw has now been exonerated!

  91. TB Queensland permalink
    December 3, 2013 7:50 pm

    You’d convict the wrong person

    Probably not … take yer pick …

    https://www.google.com.au/#newwindow=1&q=monsanto+genetically+modified+foods

  92. December 3, 2013 8:07 pm

    Joe looks better now that he’s started to eat again.

  93. December 3, 2013 9:35 pm

    What a shame? Don’t seem to be working out too good for these “Mandaters”
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/03/universities-spared-as-labor-joins-greens-to-block-23bn-in-cuts

  94. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 3, 2013 10:51 pm

    “I’ve always known that governments waste other people’s money

    But Labor Party/Socialists govts are usually the worst. Anyway that is the experience in Australia.

    It is a disgrace what Labor has done to the budget.

  95. December 3, 2013 11:09 pm

    Hey NOS how about you back up with some proof as the history seems to tell an entirely different story you apologist for the incompetent, what’s a disgrace is your bullshit comments of absolute lies Socialist’s..fuck me 🙄

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/alp-best-manager-of-money-history-shows/story-fn59niix-1226056371414

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4427680.html

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    December 4, 2013 10:17 am

    Joe looks better now that he’s started to eat again.

    Yeah, I noticed his head had got bigger … must be eating brain food … doesn’t stop it running out of his mouth though ….

  97. Walrus permalink
    December 4, 2013 10:17 am

    “It is a disgrace what Labor has done to the budget.”

    That’s right Neil

    “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”

    — Margaret Thatcher

  98. December 4, 2013 10:30 am

    “It is a disgrace what Labor has done to the budget.”

    $5 billion anyone?

  99. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 4, 2013 11:55 am

    I think Abbott will go down as another dud, like Malcolm Fraser, who was completely ineffective for over 7 years. He also achieved nothing other than a reputation for power lust.

    Fraser has now spent 30 years reinterpreting his 7 years.

  100. egg permalink
    December 5, 2013 4:11 pm

    Hockey’s Political Brillance

    ‘Joe Hockey has pulled off a neat trifecta with his deal with the Greens to remove the debt ceiling.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/joe-hockey-emerges-the-brightest-asset-in-tony-abbotts-faltering-ministry-20131205-2yslk.html#ixzz2mZeLtmjW

  101. Meta permalink
    December 5, 2013 4:26 pm

    (Erm, what happened to TAbbott’s solemn promise that the LNP would never, ever do a deal, any deal with the Greens? So disappointed; gonna have to vote PUP, now!)

  102. egg permalink
    December 5, 2013 4:58 pm

    Joe’s his own man.

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    December 5, 2013 5:37 pm

    Hockey’s Political Brillance (sic)

    A classic oxymoron if ever …

    =======================

    … gonna have to vote PUP, now!)

    Go Meta! Go Clivey!

    =======================

    Joe’s his own man.

    Definition: Plays with himself … (see comment at 4:11pm for evidence)

  104. Walrus permalink
    December 5, 2013 5:39 pm

    “……..what happened to TAbbott’s solemn promise that the LNP would never, ever do a deal, any deal with the Greens?”

    My understanding is that was only in regard to forming a government

  105. TB Queensland permalink
    December 5, 2013 5:55 pm

    Chuckle …

  106. paul permalink
    December 5, 2013 6:00 pm

    You would have to agree, this government is full of surprises

  107. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 5, 2013 6:39 pm

    “what happened to TAbbott’s solemn promise that the LNP would never, ever do a deal, any deal with the Greens

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/kevin-rudd-follows-tony-abbott-in-ruling-out-deals-to-form-government-20130814-2rv6c.html

    Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has echoed Opposition Leader Tony Abbott’s pledge not to strike any deals with minor parties or independents to form government if neither party gains a majority in its own right.

    Abbott said he would not form a minority govt with the Greens

  108. December 6, 2013 2:42 pm

    Tony Abbott says Australia will continue to spy on Indonesia…

    http://mobile.news.com.au/national/we-will-still-collect-intelligence-on-indonesia-says-tony-abbott/story-fncynjr2-1226776843876

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