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Rostrum: Live from The Red Turbo Room!

December 6, 2013


Hello, good afternoon and welcome to Rostrum!

Our weekend open discussion thread, this week brought to you live from the luxuriously appointed Red Turbo Room!

Earlier today, the team at Gutter Trash went along to hear Minister for no Immigration Scott Morrison’s weekly misinformation seminar; Operation Secret Boats.   Just for laffs of course.

Apparently  there’s been a “spike” in boat arrivals in the past week, with one boat in particular managing to sail directly to Christmas Island undetected.

When asked about the recent spate of arrivals, and how one boat arrived undetected, Morrison’s sidekick Commander Angus Campbell explained that “it is a big ocean.”

No one had ever thought about that before.

Morrison himself was quick to challenge allegations that boat arrivals had increased preferring to call the increase a “cluster” rather than a “spike”.

Commander Campbell says there were 4 boats this week. ‘Clustering’ he says.

When asked whether the recent “cluster” of boat arrivals is connected to Indonesia’s refusal to cooperate, Campbell replied that he wouldn’t comment on an ‘incredibly sensitive issue.’

Morrison was equally upfront, saying “I don’t think this needs to be over analysed.”

Morrison then continued in his usual manner – not giving journalists information, then blaming then for getting it wrong.

“Are there anymore questions …” says Scott Morrison.

Fuck’n oath there are.




138 Comments leave one →
  1. December 6, 2013 2:29 pm
  2. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2013 2:42 pm

    The “Red Turbo Room” looks the same as my “study”

  3. December 6, 2013 2:44 pm

    And here I was, stupidly assuming that it wasn’t possible to make the Disney slapper princess any ‘worse’.

  4. December 6, 2013 2:45 pm

    I like the bar fridge…but is that a douche? or just a sink for…errr, ‘hygiene’?

  5. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2013 3:18 pm

    AUSSIES – 7/483!!!

    It’s all over for the hapless poms.


  6. December 6, 2013 3:20 pm

    Is that Chrissy Pines Office? The purple Douche and assorted wine spritzers is a giveaway… Ah boats? Its the Christmas Island present that just keeps givingcoming 🙂

  7. IPA permalink
    December 6, 2013 3:49 pm

    If you ever have reason to visit the Red Turbo Room, it’s best not to use your real name, apparently. Craig Thomson showed how it’s done. He called himself Jeff Thomson. 😯

  8. December 6, 2013 4:15 pm

    Go England!

  9. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 6, 2013 4:26 pm

    This is all innocent. Looks like a good place to discuss ALP politics. Thomson, Williamson and probably Dastyari:

    Three men in a tub;
    And who do you think they be?

    The butcher, the baker,
    The candlestick-maker;
    Turn ’em out, knaves all three!

    And why, you ask a candle-stick maker?

  10. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 5:33 pm

    ‘Lawyer gets up Nigella’s nose’

    Daily Terror

  11. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2013 5:41 pm

    On a serious note – Vale Nelson Mandela

    One of the FEW truly great human beings … I do hope a new “mandela” is being born somewhere, the world needs another … we only seem to get people like this once every century … and yet the arseholes just keep breeding!

    Dog in his mercy knows what is good … 🙄

  12. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 5:58 pm

    All well and good, S&P downgrade Qantas to Junk.

  13. December 6, 2013 6:01 pm

    TB; Dog in his mercy created nothing in vain, but Andrew Bolt comes close!

  14. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2013 6:16 pm

    The Red Turbo Room is a little subdued for my liking.

    No wonder Craig chose the alias
    Jeff Thomson, he’s my hero too!

    Vale Nelson Mandela


  15. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 6, 2013 6:23 pm

    Completely agree on Mandela, TB.

  16. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2013 7:13 pm

    Free enterprise my arse! Go Kogan!


    Dog in his mercy created nothing in vain,

    So who created more than a few catlik priest kiddie fiddlers then?

    … apologies ee … I shouldn’t have said I “always” agree … no such thing as absolutes … I should have known better … 🙄


    Re Mandela … I for one won’t whinge for a couple of days if he’s all over the news … deserved …

  17. December 6, 2013 7:20 pm

    TB; It wasn’t meant to be taken literally and in fact it’s a paraphrase of Mark Twain and a reference to Blot’s piece on Mandela.
    ps; No offence taken and just for the record, when two people agree on everything – only one is doing the thinking!

  18. IPA permalink
    December 6, 2013 7:31 pm

    Mandela had a good innings at 95.

    (So did Haddin at 118, and Clarke at 148. OI!)

  19. December 6, 2013 7:57 pm

    fuck straya…

  20. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 8:06 pm

    “They were very high up in the sky, too high for a helicopter and distinctly round and definitely not a plane of any sort. They glided very fast and with no sound,” she said.

    “The first was a green glowing disc, the shape was very prominent. We watched in amazement as it travelled from Campbelltown directly over the Cascades and towards Camden. It travelled slowly enough for us to watch it the entire time, never lost its colour or shine and the speed was constant.”

    Daily Terror

  21. December 6, 2013 8:18 pm

    I don’t discount the concept, but forgive me if I find anecdotal ‘A Current Affair’ style expositions ‘less than convincing’.

    It would get a warm crackpot reception at Café Rohypnol though, el martian…

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2013 8:20 pm

    No offence taken and just for the record, when two people agree on everything – only one is doing the thinking!

    LOL! None really intended! LOL!

    yer a Dick sometimes ToSY … but I loike yer … as for my bruvver from another movver …

  23. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 8:35 pm

    Sadly I’m banned at that shithole, otherwise I would be chatting with Roswell.

  24. December 6, 2013 8:35 pm

    I’ve come to the erstwhile conclusion that IPAd should be (for the most part) taken literally…but always examined for nuance, comedy & hidden meaning.

    He only comes across as a rightwing caricature if you are predisposed to see such things rather than (slightly divergent to your own proclivities) shades of grey. Also, he’s made a special effort in recent history to present both sides of an argument. A commendable trait if ever there was.

    But fuck him & fuck YomM & fuck all of thye ockertardlicking, group frotteurising flagstubators.

  25. December 6, 2013 8:38 pm

    I know, el hero, to your credit.

    I said it tongue in cheek.

    With perhaps, just a little irony that they’d accept almost any old evidence of extraterrestrial encounter…yet couldn’t, for the credibility of them, recognise the glaring horrors of their unimpeachable Julia (etc).

  26. December 6, 2013 9:00 pm

    Soooo…tomorrow is my bday. I’m still a couple off forty (unlike the rest of you) & I’ll be spending the (forecast) near perfect weather playing drunken golf & having a good laugh with various family members & other notable humans worthy of drawing breath.

    Ironically, a 4m white pointer has been lurking around my local break this week (apparently…I generally don’t trust professional fishermen verbatim)…so I won’t be going for a sneaky wave.

    Fuck xmas…but goodwill to y’all.

    Nice to have been communicating with many of you for a half a decade or so…& many years to come hopefully.

  27. December 6, 2013 9:12 pm

    Happy birthday for tomorrow boss… 🙂

  28. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 9:20 pm

    ‘I said it tongue in cheek.’

    Of course and happy birthday.

  29. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 9:25 pm

    ‘The Sagittarian-born are keenly interested in philosophy and religion, and they find that these disciplines aid their internal quest. At the end of the day, what Sagittarius wants most is to know the meaning of life, and to accomplish this while feeling free and easy.’

  30. December 6, 2013 9:28 pm

    It’s funny how those who believe in the sky fairy are so quick to dismiss those who say they’ve witnessed a UFO sighting….

  31. December 6, 2013 10:00 pm

    I reiterate…I am quite open to the concept of ‘other life’ in the universe, although I doubt such life would be in any way synonymous with the bipedal, intelligent category which our humancentric selves imagine it to be.

    I don’t want to come across all cynical, but I don’t think Herr Cruise is actually an Operating Thetan Level 3 (or whatever crap L.Ron came up with to enamour his wealthy Hollywood lickspittles).

  32. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2013 10:00 pm

    Happy birthday HD.

    I’ve always found the ‘Human Dividend” an interesting starting point to all the “Toilet……” iterations.

    Celebrate your birthday by eating a shark!

  33. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 10:00 pm

    ‘More people believe in aliens than God, reveals poll’

    The Express

  34. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 10:04 pm

    ‘I doubt such life would be in any way synonymous with the bipedal, intelligent category which our humancentric selves imagine it to be.’

    Theoretically, to become space travellers, they are probably not too different from us.

  35. December 6, 2013 10:05 pm

    Thanks, Tom, but Human Dividend was me going out of my way to be ‘approachable’ & ‘polite’ (guffaw). Also, I was a very novice blogger then. 😉

    It was actually taken from a Howard quote (trying to justify blunt IR reform, I believe) which really fucked me off at the time.

    I do love to eat flake. Pretty sure great white would taste like shit though. Creatures just don’t come any more magnificent than APEX PREDATORS. Darwinism at its pinnacle.

  36. December 6, 2013 10:07 pm

    “they are probably not too different from us.”

    Thing about humans is..we really only have ‘ourselves’ as a yardstick to introspectively typify everything else by.

    It’s evident in what we imagine to be ‘our’ gods, how we imagine animals ‘think’ & the way in which we exploit the world around us.

  37. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 10:17 pm

    A dolphin has a big brain but no hands, space travellers need hands and fingers to industrialise in the first instance.

  38. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2013 10:19 pm

    Flake is tasty and us human surfers must be the pinnacle. Cull the flake.

  39. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 6, 2013 10:21 pm

    I’m having some t-shirts printed for distribution at Bells and the surf coast-

    “Save a surfer- eat flake”

  40. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 10:25 pm

    As more people believe in aliens than dog, its reasonable expect some confusion during the transition period.

    ‘Intelligent design (ID) is a form of creationism presented by its proponents as the theory that “certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection.” It is a version of the theological argument from design for the existence of God presented as “an evidence-based scientific theory about life’s origins” rather than “a religious-based idea”.


  41. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 10:27 pm

    “Save a surfer- eat flake”

    LOL brilliant ToM

  42. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 10:47 pm

    Just to get a philosophical perspective from an honest broker.

  43. IPA permalink
    December 6, 2013 10:54 pm

    Happy birthday to an un-met friend.

    Flake is okay, so are potato cakes. Why do you foreigners call them scallops? Scallops live in shells at the bottom of the ocean.

  44. IPA permalink
    December 6, 2013 10:59 pm

    Nigella never pretended to be anything but a hedonist.

  45. IPA permalink
    December 6, 2013 11:09 pm
  46. egg permalink
    December 6, 2013 11:20 pm

    Your vid did nothing for me, but I have strong memories of that particular scene.

  47. Meta permalink
    December 7, 2013 5:54 am

    (Many happy returns of the day, HD!)

  48. December 7, 2013 11:13 am

    This is hilarious!

  49. egg permalink
    December 7, 2013 11:31 am

    Nicely nobbled together.

  50. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 7, 2013 2:21 pm

    I found this on Pickering. It always annoys me when Labor party supporters try and make out they are more moral than Coalition supporters

    Don’t for a minute think that criminality in its worst forms is confined to Labor, but the Party of the workers sure leads the way and it’s usually at the expense of the very workers they presume to protect.

    Try and match the crimes with the photographs.

  51. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 7, 2013 2:57 pm

    POMS 9/161!!!

    Only 409 behind the AUSSIES!!! (oi) with one wicket in hand!

  52. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 7, 2013 2:59 pm

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    December 7, 2013 5:11 pm


    AKA Human Dividend of the Buffalo Lodge and the many iterations of Toillette …

    And many more of ’em …

    Wild Turkey today – I hope! *clink* …

    Permission to get pissed … 😉


    I know you like GUNS!

    … you’ll be pleased to know that I’m just back from the range … my 15 yo g/son just beat his dad at shotgunning clay pigeons!


    First round – they both had ten hits for 13 shots (exceptional) and the ‘play off” was double clays (two at the same time)… they both missed the first two and then g/son hit two with one shot … hilarious – my son is quite competitive and a bloody good shot – surprised is not the best word to describe the look … this was my g/sons second shoot … 😯

    My granddaughter shot the bull out of her target with her .22 takes, she it very seriously … and it takes a lot of .22 rounds! 😛

    Very pleased with my own effort no red left in my target either …

    A great day …

    Another gig tonight … got a noice $250 bonus last Saturday. This one is a freebie … but who cares, ’tis good fun …

  54. egg permalink
    December 7, 2013 6:24 pm

    Just been to a children’s birthday party (extended family) and got into a conversation with a teacher on climate change. I’m banned from instigating discussion on said topic, but when asked I gave my opinion.

    He hadn’t heard of the hiatus, so I must have sounded like a complete ratbag.

    He listened politely, yet was clearly shocked by the revelation of global cooling within 18 months. So in the end I asked how are we to tell the people CO2 doesn’t cause global warming and he reckoned “the media will say the science was wrong and we will accept it.”

    For that to happen, Aunty will need be purged of watermelons.

  55. December 7, 2013 6:46 pm

    “I’m banned from instigating discussion on said topic,”

    Gee, I wonder why…. 🙄

  56. egg permalink
    December 7, 2013 7:21 pm


    And thanks again for the back room.

  57. egg permalink
    December 7, 2013 8:23 pm

    ‘Exquisitely elegant and polished. Demure and sexy. Vulnerable yet indomitable. When Nigella Lawson strode into court to defend her reputation this week, onlookers were left wondering whether to give her a hug or a wide berth.

    ‘Which was exactly the look required for such an august occasion. She may have been under attack but, boy, Nigella knew how to come back fighting.’

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  58. IPA permalink
    December 7, 2013 8:47 pm

    When Nigella sees someone who’s overweight, she thinks how much fun they must have had getting like that. When she sees someone who’s off their head … well, you know the rest.

  59. December 7, 2013 10:21 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘Creatures just don’t come any more magnificent than APEX PREDATORS. Darwinism at its pinnacle.’ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘It’s evident in what we imagine to be ‘our’ gods, how we imagine animals ‘think’ & the way in which we exploit the world around us.’ ‘ ‘ ‘

    The red-necks have wanted to start killing sharks again, coz the sharks have been enjoying bogan flavored snacks recently. When the ancestors were tumbling out of the tree-tops, geology has shown that saber-toothed cats regularly dined on them. The sharks scare red-necked dog-botherers coz it reminds them that they are glorified cat-food. Soon things will return to normal and, the red-necks and the bogans will be at each others throat.

    Happy Birthday Dunny.

  60. egg permalink
    December 8, 2013 8:01 am

    ”Decisions made by my chief of staff and my office have my full backing and authority. Anyone who suggests otherwise is wrong.”

    Read more:

  61. December 8, 2013 9:27 am

    Hypocrisy transplants are always a bit touch and go…

  62. egg permalink
    December 8, 2013 11:11 am

    In a new twist to the crop circle saga, they are showing up in Brazil and someone is offering $20,000 to anyone who can prove them fake (ie man made).

  63. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 8, 2013 12:39 pm

    One of the benefits of surfing in the south is that sharks dislike the cold water. Soft.

    No one was eaten at Winkipop today and I might celebrate with flake for lunch.

  64. egg permalink
    December 8, 2013 2:45 pm

    Australia to attend seminar on Chinese Dream.

    ‘The two-day seminar hosted by China’s State Council Information Office attracted experts from more than 20 countries, including the United States, Canada, Australia, Egypt, Japan and India.

    ‘It comprised three parallel roundtable discussions on three topics: the Chinese Dream and Chinese path; the Chinese Dream and world prosperity; and the Chinese Dream and peaceful development.’

    China Daily

  65. egg permalink
    December 8, 2013 3:41 pm

    ‘As she fought to defend her reputation in court last week, Nigella Lawson was the image of stoic, serious elegance.

    ‘But as these stunning pictures from a more innocent time reveal, she has always possessed a natural poise and charisma.

    ‘Believed to have been taken in 1979, when she was a 19-year-old undergraduate at Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford, the photographs are seen here for the first time.’

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  66. egg permalink
    December 9, 2013 7:28 am

    The times they are a changing… Congress to be swept from office next year.

    ‘In a country where many are illiterate, political parties rely on a symbol for recognition – the AAP’s is a broom.

    “I voted for Kejriwal because all the others are thieves. They tell us they will help us when they want our votes and then we never hear or see them again. Now we will sweep them away,” said Mohan Lal, a 42-year-old cobbler in west Delhi.’


  67. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 9, 2013 10:20 am

    Andrew Bolt often proves he’s a tool, and does it yet again today. He’s critical of Mandela for accepting the support of various organisations, during a time when governments in the UK and USA shunned the ANC.

    When the ANC was struggling against an oppressive, racist regime and the PLO, Cuba etc actually got around to recognising the legitimacy of their struggle, why would they decline their offer of support. It’s not as if Regan and Thatcher were ready to step in and replace the funding and liaison.

    Bolt generally has an inclination to ignore legitimacy in struggle and rights of minorities (or majorities in the case of black South Africans)

  68. TB Queensland permalink
    December 9, 2013 3:17 pm

    Bolt generally has an inclination to ignore legitimacy in struggle and rights of minorities

    Did you really mean Bolt has an inclination to be a middle aged male, white-supremacy, racist, ToM?

    Maybe Bolt should spend some time in jail for his stinky ideas (Mandela spent 16 years(?) in jail for his ideas on equality …)

  69. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 9, 2013 4:18 pm

    TB – Did you really mean Bolt has an inclination to be a middle aged male, white-supremacy, racist, ToM?

    I’m not sure I mean all of that TB. But I think Bolt is inclined to be so locked into a status quo orientation that he overlooks the context of minority and dispossessed struggle.

    Mandela and the ANC were shunned by Thatcher and Regan, why would Bolt criticise them for looking for allegiance elsewhere? It’s wilful ignorance.

  70. egg permalink
    December 9, 2013 4:28 pm

    The Bolter has a pronounced bias on matters of race. For years I somehow assumed he was South African, later to discover he was born in South Australia.

  71. egg permalink
    December 9, 2013 4:48 pm

    Live from Parliament via Guardian

    Speaker Bronwyn Bishop peers down at Hockey, who is blustering at Bowen.

    ‘Just withdraw hypocrite ..’

    .. she tells Hockey, in a tone of mild admonition.

    Hockey, ignoring her:

    ‘He (Bowen) contradicts himself on a regular basis with no underlying principle.’

    A raised eyebrow from Bishop.


    ‘I withdraw ..’

  72. December 9, 2013 5:33 pm

    “For years I somehow assumed he was South African”

    Me too. I think it’s his accent…

    Although he may as well be an honorary Afrikaner given his views…

  73. IPA permalink
    December 9, 2013 5:45 pm

    Go those mighty Aussies! It makes one’s chest swell with pride, it truly does. What a privilege it is to witness the heroic deeds of our mighty cricketers.

    Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi!

  74. egg permalink
    December 9, 2013 5:51 pm

    Its a colourful contest, with the sledging and the quicks.

  75. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 9, 2013 6:32 pm

    The current cricketers are wimps. Bring back the biff!


  76. December 9, 2013 9:26 pm

    (Mandela spent 16 years(?) in jail for his ideas on equality)
    TB, Madeba spent 27 years on Robin lsland.
    ‘ ‘ ‘Bolt generally has an inclination to ignore’ ‘ ‘
    Reality. for the big pay cheques of course.
    l noticed teh-gays have been out`n`about in the ACT this week, going an get`en emselves `hitched` under some fancy new law. Mr-Rabbit better send Brandis out after`em an drag`em back to 4th-class, they can`t ride-up here in 3rd-class with us regular folk. Mr-Eleventy is happy for Brandis to throw plenty of cash on this bonfire to keep our moral-superiority warm, as we now can borrow `unlimited` amounts now.

  77. December 9, 2013 9:51 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘The plane took off and flew over Joe Hockeys grave at the end of the runway’ ‘ ‘ ‘

    We will need a bigger hole at the end of the runway, over the next 3-years.

  78. egg permalink
    December 10, 2013 7:13 am

    ‘Hush fund: Catholic Church paid $43 million to keep abuse secret’

    Daily Terror

  79. egg permalink
    December 10, 2013 7:24 am

    ‘VICTORIA’S most senior magistrate has found reasonable grounds to conclude that Julia Gillard’s former boyfriend was involved in a fraud, negating his right to claim privilege over documents held at her old law firm.

    ‘Chief Magistrate Peter Lauritsen yesterday granted Victoria Police access to 363 documents that have remained sealed since they were seized under warrant from Slater & Gordon’s Melbourne office.’

    Akerman and Thomas / Oz

  80. egg permalink
    December 10, 2013 7:28 am

    ‘TONY Abbott and the Liberals have lost their three-year carbon tax advantage over Labor, with support for the Coalition dropping to its lowest since 2011 to leave the opposition leading on preferences for the first time since the election of the Gillard government.

    ‘Just three months after being elected, the Abbott government’s primary vote support has dropped to 40 per cent while Labor’s two-party-preferred support has jumped five percentage points to put the ALP in front 52 per cent to 48 per cent.’

    Shanahan / Oz

  81. egg permalink
    December 10, 2013 7:54 am

    Man driven to distraction.

    ‘An eyewitness said: ‘He told her she already had enough shoes, more shoes that she could wear in a lifetime and it was pointless buying any more.

    ‘She started shouting at him accusing him of being a skinflint and of spoiling Christmas, it was a really heated argument.’

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  82. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 10, 2013 12:28 pm

    This is a disgrace, there is no form of fare evasion, or potty mouth that warrants a young woman (or anyone else) being slammed into concrete.

    Sack them.

  83. December 10, 2013 3:38 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘girl bypassing the myki barriers and walking through an open gate, then being grabbed by the clothing by a Metro authorised officer’ ‘ ‘ ‘

    This myki-system is stupid. ln Sydney every platform/station has ticket machines and it is easy to buy a ticket. This is costing them travelers/customers that come from interstate that now don`t use teh-railway coz of this myki-card crap. You guys got taken to the cleaners on this miky crap.

  84. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 11, 2013 10:33 am

    This seems a sensible approach to keeping beaches safe,

  85. December 11, 2013 10:38 am

    No, it seems like a kneejerk reaction aimed at appeasing nervous beachgoers & taking the political heat off of the WA government (which comes under siege every time one of its plebs gets included in the food chain).

    I doubt that it would be viewed as a legitimate control by those in the know.

  86. December 11, 2013 10:40 am

    Great Whites aren’t the only sea creatures which will end up being indiscriminately culled by drumlins & such like.


    If humans don’t like what lives in the ocean, perhaps they ought to confine themselves to the land.

  87. December 11, 2013 10:41 am


  88. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 11, 2013 11:54 am

    There were 2 deaths in a week in WA due to shark attack. It would be negligent if the government didn’t try to provide a safe place for coastal leisure.

    More people holiday by the sea than in the bush. It needs to be reasonably safe, otherwise it will kill off the tourism.

    Though on a personal basis, I’ve found some of the breaks a bit crowded and it wouldn’t bother me if a few surfers decided to opt out.

  89. December 11, 2013 12:21 pm

    Indiscriminant killing of all manner of sea creatures won’t “provide a safe place for coastal leisure” anyway.
    All it will do, aside from indiscriminantly destroying a myriad of marine life, is give the illusion of ‘taking action’.

    I think a pretty strong argument can be made that the increased frequency of attacks has more to do with a greater population of human filth entering the ocean, due to increased human scum proliferation everywhere , rather than any change in the predatory behaviours of animals which are, by their very nature, predatory.

  90. December 11, 2013 12:23 pm

    If you don’t like crowded breaks, move to a more isolated place. Crowded breaks aren’t a problem here.
    Although I dispute that there are no gigantic white pointers in the colder waters down here. There most certainly are.

  91. December 11, 2013 12:29 pm

    Also, the occasional fatal attack upon humans by something like a great white is entirely unlikely to result in the extinction of humans as a species.

    Reflexive policies of destruction based upon inherent fear enacted by humans upon relatively endangered species (which cannot be reliably specifically targeted) are more than capable of pushing said animals to the brink of extinction.

    Does anyone call for the destruction of lions, as a rule, when they munch up an unfortunate villager?

  92. egg permalink
    December 11, 2013 12:34 pm

    Surely someone will invent a small waterproof soundbox to frighten away the beasts without harming them.

  93. egg permalink
    December 11, 2013 12:39 pm

    ‘Never seen a shark with ears? Well, sharks only have an inner ear. Two holes on either side of a shark’s head might be the only clue you’d have to the presence of shark ears. Yet sound is often the shark’s first tip-off that prey is nearby.

    ‘The prey doesn’t even have to be that close. Because sound travels farther and faster underwater, sharks are easily able to detect their prey from distances of more than 800 feet (243 meters) . That’s more than two football fields.’


  94. December 11, 2013 12:47 pm

    There are various devices which may be attached to dive rigs & surfboards which supposedly repel sharks.
    Personally, I wouldn’t put much faith in them. A physical barrier is the only sure obstacle between man & dismemberment.

    Given the size, elusiveness & closing speed of something as gargantuan as a pointer (in particular) …the beast is likely to be upon a victim for an exploratory (nearly always fatal) ‘nip’ before anything it finds unpalatable enough to cause it to break off its curiosity comes into play.

    You can’t build underwater fences. Even shark netting runs parallel to a beach & is virtually open ended; not to mention that it also entangles & kills many other forms of sea life.

    Regretably, when you enter a marine environment, you are taking a risk which can only be slightly mitigated. I’d have thought the (statistically minimal) risk was far outweighed by the reward of enjoying the ocean.
    Being devoured plays upon base human instinct; it’s caveman shit. Hence the irrational response to shark attacks.

  95. egg permalink
    December 11, 2013 1:01 pm

    During WW2 they discovered that the smell of dead shark frightened sharks away, so instead of sound repellant they could develop a stench box with synthetic dead shark. Its a wonder the CSIRO isn’t working on this.

  96. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 11, 2013 1:07 pm

    I was in Byron Bay a year or 2 ago. I arrived at Tallows Beach just after it was closed due to a shark.

    Next day kids were scrambling out of the water and onto the old ship wreck (near the town) due to a shark.

    No injuries, but I’m not fond of chancing feeding kids to sharks.

  97. December 11, 2013 1:25 pm

    Noone is, Tom.

    But you took a far greater risk with them travelling to Byron Bay.

  98. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 11, 2013 2:31 pm

    I don’t think that’s correct. More people in this country have died by shark attack than by jet aircraft crash.

    Though, arguably, people that die in aircraft crashes also can’t complain, they’re entering the air. That’s the domain of birds, not humans.

    Protection of humans seems reasonable to me.

  99. December 11, 2013 2:41 pm

    I meant automobiles. 😉

    And, overreaction by humans doesn’t seem reasonable to me. 😉

    I believe you can probably understand the points I make about this; whether you agree or not.

  100. December 11, 2013 4:34 pm

    Sharks are creatures that migrate, so pants-wetting over`em is stupid. We should be securing the sharks health and safety during their migration, feeding them a few teabags or bogans when necessary.

  101. December 11, 2013 5:48 pm

    That Scott Morrison creature is really something. “What – you were shot in the head? Suck it up princess”

  102. December 11, 2013 6:23 pm

    ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘Australia denies Somali woman surgery’ ‘ ‘ ‘

    We require a `cost-benefit` to be done before we `approve` of this type of foreign-aid welfare. Just what benefit is this to out party and our country.?

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    December 11, 2013 6:55 pm

    Especially for ToM … onyamate! 😉

    I can endorse every bit of advice … after all … 🙂

  104. December 11, 2013 6:58 pm

    That’s a great link TB, thanks for sharing…. 🙂

  105. TB Queensland permalink
    December 11, 2013 6:58 pm

    Scroat Moronnison … 🙄

    Born to rule my arse!

    Cold catlik (is he?) heart by the sound of it! DH~!

  106. December 11, 2013 7:11 pm

    That`s a fine example of Limited-News Laziness and Hypocrisy TB.

    They have all the resources in the world to endlessly, manipulate elections, criticize my abc, and all their other culture-war bullshit, but feel the need to copy and paste `reddit`.

    l hope`ya aint payin Roopert to for this shit TB.?

  107. TB Queensland permalink
    December 11, 2013 7:20 pm

    Thanks, sreb … 🙂

  108. TB Queensland permalink
    December 11, 2013 7:25 pm

    l hope`ya aint payin Roopert to for this shit TB.?

    And here I thought you knew and understood me completely … “if tha’ want owt fer nowt tha’ ma do it fer thisel'” an old Yorkshire saying … this Queenslander has a West Riding heritage …

    PAY 😯 you’ve gotta be jokin’ … (for that crap? Useful for talk topics – certainly not for news …)

  109. TB Queensland permalink
    December 11, 2013 7:33 pm

    Morrison … as I supected … oh, the hypocrisy in this article …

    “My personal faith in Jesus Christ is not a political agenda,” Morrison argued in his maiden speech.

    Yet his strong faith continues to alarm some colleagues. Some mutter about his trips to the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington. Hardly a political, fringe event, he attended the year that Barack Obama addressed the rally. In 2011, Morrison noted on the pecuniary interest register that he had accepted a free trip from the Oceania Fellowship to attend it. ntsGthe event.nte (sic) It’s all more grist for the mill of his critics.

    Like Tony Abbott, Morrison believes there is a thread between Christianity and public service. Morrison does not hide it, listing “church” as his favourite hobby in Who’s Who. The Church is how he met his wife, Jennifer when the pair were barely teenagers.

  110. December 11, 2013 7:37 pm

    Good to hear ya`not payin Roopert. 🙂

    Did you click thru to the geriatric `reddit` thread TB.?
    (l think you`d fit in)

    l`m surprised Limited-News `actually` Linked to it. They never used to Link to Non-Limited sites. Must have changed their attitude since my abc started promoting all `related` content.

  111. December 12, 2013 12:00 pm

    BREAKING NEWS: High Court has ruled the ACT same-sex marriage law cannot operate concurrently with federal law

  112. public toilet permalink
    December 12, 2013 1:55 pm

    Gutless conservative pricks.

  113. December 12, 2013 2:27 pm

    lt will be interesting to see if one of the States challenge or do their own thing. Tassie seemed to have the mettle, l hope they still do. lt would be great to see little ol`Tassie tellin` the Feds to Fcuk-off and make Brandis start shrieking.

  114. egg permalink
    December 12, 2013 3:24 pm

    Meanwhile in the West.

    ‘Ms MacLaren said she had introduced a bill that could survive a High Court challenge.

    “I had a little help from my friends. One of Australia’s leading constitutional lawyers, George Williams AO, and Greens MPs with similar bills in other Australian states, have generously provided guidance,” she said.

    “Same-sex couples in WA who want to be married could look forward to it next year if this bill passes.”

    “This bill builds on momentum across Australia to close the gap of inequality once and for all.

    “I believe that with the new WA Parliament we now have enough support to pass this legislation.”

  115. December 12, 2013 3:31 pm

    Nothing inspires the Perth Parliament like totally pissing off the the east-coast.


  116. egg permalink
    December 13, 2013 8:16 am

    “I don’t think the audience gives a damn. You don’t have to be straight to play Gandalf. Anyway, who says that Gandalf isn’t gay? I loved it when JK Rowling said that Dumbledore was gay.”

    Sir Ian McKellen / Guardian

  117. IPA permalink
    December 13, 2013 1:47 pm

    “This is why the Oxford comma exists!” said Carole Blake, a literary agent in London.

    Read more:
    Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

  118. IPA permalink
    December 13, 2013 1:53 pm

    Leave us alone to enjoy our simple pleasures – and sins.

  119. December 13, 2013 4:50 pm


    pump the chestbeaters

  120. December 13, 2013 4:59 pm

    I agree about the ‘meddling’, btw. The Powers That Be can just get the fuck out of my life.

    I’m never likely to order home delivery Maccaz, I shudder to think what the tariff on a 100km return trip for a few cardboard patties & defiled fried potato straws might be. But fuck, it’s hardly anyone else’s right to determine that I may not…note: not can not .

    A link for a link…

  121. egg permalink
    December 14, 2013 6:54 am

    Orwellian Nightmare

    ‘Whoever is responsible for Jang’s demise, further purges are expected to follow. Other names have already vanished from state media reports as Jang’s has been edited from the archives.’


  122. egg permalink
    December 15, 2013 2:02 pm

    The Christian gospels were written around 70 AD, up until then it was word of mouth. These days the new religion doesn’t require faith.


  123. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2013 10:32 am

    An interesting article on the new NBN proposals

  124. TB Queensland permalink
    December 16, 2013 10:44 am

    And I’ve been saying this for a number of years now too …

    As Glenn Stevens suggested, Australia just doesn’t raise enough revenue to cover the community demands on Government for infrastructure, disability support, and free education and healthcare.

    Taxes have to go up.

  125. egg permalink
    December 16, 2013 10:31 pm

    The three Avatar sequels to be shot in New Zealand.

  126. Neil of Sydney permalink
    December 16, 2013 10:41 pm

    “And I’ve been saying this for a number of years now too …”

    That almost certainly means it is the wrong thing to do. How about cutting spending for a change??

  127. IPA permalink
    December 17, 2013 10:42 am

    Poll: Americans want the government to stop banning everything they like

  128. IPA permalink
    December 17, 2013 10:47 am

    Reason: Remembering Christopher Hitchens, 1949 – 2011

  129. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 17, 2013 2:34 pm

    Tim Wilson has been appointed as the new Human Rights Commissioner.

    Big tick for the government:

  130. public toilet permalink
    December 17, 2013 2:56 pm

    I’ve read a fair bit of stuff comemorating Hitchens in the last day or so.

    It reminded me how much I love his turn of phrase & critical thinking.

    Definitely gone too young.

  131. Jherek Jagged permalink
    December 17, 2013 2:58 pm

    Tim Wilson. Of IPA fame?

    That should bode well.

  132. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 17, 2013 3:26 pm

    It is particularly this aspect that puts Hitchens in a different class to most so-called intellectuals:

    “And he was intellectually honest in a way that is uncommon, with many (most?) thinkers curtailing their views if they threaten a broader ideological identity. “

    Some classic Hitchens:

    There was also Hitchen’s takedown of Paul Johnson which seems to have disappeared from its original site, but survives here.

    Also, this fine piece of social history.

  133. egg permalink
    December 18, 2013 10:28 pm

    By a strange coincidence I’m reading God is nor Great and, in my quest to discover the meaning of everything and nothing, I’m also reading A history of God by Karen Armstrong.

    Now for something entirely different, man’s inhumanity to man.

    ‘Sitting before a bank of flickering computer screens and controls, the RAF pilot flies a drone in the skies above Afghanistan.

    ‘But the airman is not operating the £10million Reaper unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) from the warzone – or even the US.

    ‘Instead, he is 8,000 miles away in a hi-tech control hub in a remote part of East Anglia – poised to order the controversial robot to carry out airstrikes using its fearsome array of Hellfire missiles and laser-guided bombs.’

    Read more:
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  134. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 19, 2013 1:58 pm

    Some people have no understanding of the pain and trauma of losing the Ashes:

    Swann posted a comment on Facebook responding to a post from his brother who had gone to see a band play at home in England.

    “Rather have been there than being a— raped in Perth!” Swann wrote.

    The comment drew fire, with Yvonne Traynor, chief executive of Rape Crisis in the United Kingdom, telling Britain’s Daily Mail newspaper in Britain the organisation was appalled that Swann equated “a cricket match with the devastatingly serious crime of rape”.

    “These comments lack compassion and intelligence and he should apologise to anyone who has suffered from this heinous crime,” Traynor said.

    Swann should have politely asked Traynor to get fucked.

  135. Splatterbottom permalink
    December 19, 2013 2:06 pm

    The perils of modern technology.

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