Coalition suffers worst opinion poll result since 2011
After three months in government, support for Coalition falls to its lowest level in nearly three years.
According to the latest Newspoll, Labor now leads on preferences for the first time since Julia Gillard was elected prime minister.
After three months of an Abbott-led government, more voters are dissatisfied with the prime minister than satisfied.
Labor’s two-party-preferred support has jumped five percentage points to put the ALP in front 52% to 48%.
The Coalition’s primary vote fell three percentage points to 40%, while Labor’s rose three points to 38%.
Labor’s primary vote is back to the level it was in July, just after Kevin Rudd replaced Gillard as prime minister.
Voters are also now more satisfied with the way Opposition Leader Bill Shorten is doing his job than Prime Minister Tony Abbott, the Newspoll found.
Voter satisfaction with the Prime Minister fell two percentage points to 40 per cent, while dissatisfaction rose three percentage points to 45 per cent, giving a negative personal satisfaction rating of minus five.
Mr Shorten’s satisfaction rating jumped to 44 per cent, while dissatisfaction was unchanged at 27 per cent. Mr Abbott remains preferred prime minister but his lead over Mr Shorten has narrowed again to 41 per cent to 34 per cent.
The shift towards Labor, first recorded in the November 25 Nielsen poll, began before Education Minister Christopher Pyne was forced to backtrack after saying he would dump Labor’s Gonski schools funding program.
Other pollsters have found that women are shifting away from the Coalition much faster than men.
THE ABBOTT GOVT’S AMAZING SUCCESS STORY!
The dramatic fall from favour may be attributed to the Government’s track record of success stories it has achieved in the space of the last three months:
- Bungling the relationship with Indonesia
- Offending China
- Attempting to destroy Gonski then performing a major triple backflip somersault
- Hiding the boats
- That climate change crap
- Abandoning Holden
- Something about Qantas
It’s the comedy show that doesn’t stop giving!
theguttertrash.com 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
The brief honeymoon with the electorate has come to an end…. I’ll ponder your points.
So they weren’t actually given a mandate at all, for anything … it was all about the stupidity of the ALP leadership squabbling amongst themselves and the voters wanted ’em to just piss off and let someone else have a go … who woulda thunk …
So the LibNits got up and a go and – in the scheme of things – immediately fkd it up too …
Seems, Tony About & The Shadow Men, have finally been recognised by the voters for what they are … although I can’t see any leadership standouts ANYWHERE in parliament … maybe a chance here for the PUP!
Go Clivey!
Is anyone actually running the country? 🙄
Interesting how the amazing invisible opposition leader is still gaining ground on the amazing invisible prime minister. Could it be that people are actually looking at policies and outcomes for the first time in years?
“Could it be that people are actually looking at policies and outcomes for the first time in years?”
Not sure if people are that engaged to look at policies, but they can definitely see the results, and three months in the Abbott govt has been a complete shambles..
Probably driven by the Gonski backflip. Reinforced the shifty untrustworthy image. The “Adults” now look more like the same old conniving BS artists.
*GUFFAW!
Unsurprisingly, this has Bolt squirting in his knickers a little and…wait for it…blaming ” the hysterical opposition from the media Left”…! 😯
Oh, the irony.
Of course, Herr Bolt’s ‘hysterical opposition’ to every day of Labor rule post-Howard was perfectly legitimate & proportionate & held no influence over the electorate whatsoever. 🙄
Fucktards like Bolt must think their ‘readers’ wipe their memory banks every fortnight and can’t join the dots when he twists & contorts & promulgates utter partisan bilge to gild one lot of arseholes while perpetually tarnishing the other lot.
Also, what splatter said
Meanwhile over at Teh Asutralian, Peter Brent desperately tries to make a connection between the poll slump for the Coalition and “Labor’s debt..”
😆
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/mumble/index.php/theaustralian/comments/three_month_slump/
The main points of interest, where they went wrong.
The monk should have said sorry to bam bang no matter what the Canberra mandarins demanded, we cannot confirm or deny.
With the Chinese, Bishop should have taken a non-aligned position and said nothing.
The Gonski backflip had consequences and was dumb.
The boats disappeared because Kev moved the goal posts and Indonesia clamped down on Iranian tourists.
The climate change thingy has been muddied by inaction, which may eventually help him extricate the Coalition before the next election.
Qantas and Holden mean nothing to incoming waves of immigrants who pay taxes and vote, so that’s a winner.
Hmmmm, how about the 200,000 related jobs (just in the auto industry- let alone QANTAS) which will go with Holden?
Pretty sure not too many of those voters would be thanking the government (rightly or wrongly).
People need to realise, it’s much bigger than just Holden. Holden doesn’t make its own parts.
Aint truth a bitch… Its like sticking a stale bottle of piss up the elephant in the rooms arse and expecting it to get better with age… Abbott is a chocolate covered turd and now all the idoits that voted for him are choking on the main course…
‘Hmmmm, how about the 200,000 related jobs (just in the auto industry- let alone QANTAS) which will go with Holden?’
Can’t be helped, subsidising Holden is no longer an option and Qantas has to survive on its own merits.
I agree that it probably can’t be helped, but the negative impact upon public opinion which it will have shouldn’t be entirely dismissed.
It would be a shit sandwich without sauce for certain, not negligible proportions of the electorate to swallow irrespective of who is in government. It was/is bound to happen on someone’s watch; that appears to be Anthony Arsehat.
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘Fucktards like Bolt
must thinkKnow their ‘readers’ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ are `useful` idiots that are not too bright. Hello Dumpty.Subsidising Holden is still an option, it’s just that the haterz have done enough groundwork for long enough to make it a virtually politically unsaleable one.
Haha, I love it when large swathes of his sycophant base put the boot into Herr Bolt for his lukewarm condemnation of homophobia (to his credit). He must be soooo proud of the types who flock to his banner (who then become confused when he’s not quite as ignorant a religious conservative arsehole as they are). Go Team Westercentric Conservative!
Holden going arse-up will probably be the final nail in SA Labor’s coffin. Honestly, the ALP has been in power in SA for too long & has enacted some extremely arrogant shit upon regional populations over the last decade.
I will celebrate its demise, but the incoming Liberals are nothing to get excited about.
#Qantas, Govt. should `unfetter` the bullshit ownership restrictions. lf we don`t need to own and run our telecoms, (which is much more important,) then we don`t need to dabble in airlines.
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#Detroit can shove General Motors up their arse.
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘200,000 related jobs’ ‘ ‘ ‘ < <– Pigs arse.
That number is way over-blown and many years old. Holden`s nipple-grab for welfare to assemble foreign-made parts on our soil is not to our benefit, and Holden will definitely go, along with the rest of teh-auto-industry sooner or later.
Re Holden: I recall similar arguments being made for every manufacturer (including my indirect employer – Nissan) when their plants closed.
And a similar hue and cry when Bob Hawkes lot first gave Kodak a cool million to stay on in Melbourne – even though digital imaging was showing processed film the door – and then klunk, Kodak shut its doors and pissed off … they’ve just been resurrected from bankruptcy I believe …
Life moves on … Holden and Ford have never been Australian … if they were they would probably build cars that the majority of Australians prefer … instead of Yank and European rip-offs … GM and Ford don’t give a toss …
… piss ’em off and start up a steam car company … steam is the most effecient engine ever designed – up to 70% energy efficient … and and enclosed steam engine (recirculating the same water) just keeps on giving!
Having actually worked for 18months for a components manufacturer in the past, and having related knowledge of that & other components manufacturers in Adelaide alone, I must say…
“Holden`s nipple-grab for welfare to assemble foreign-made parts on our soil is not to our benefit” < <– Pigs arse.
ie. the parts aren’t ‘foreign made’
Much of the conversation about Holden (usually by those not directly impacted by the industry [other than blubbing about subsidies] ) deliberately ignores the not insignificant flow on affects through other companies & manufacturing in general.
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ie. the parts aren’t ‘foreign made’ ‘ ‘ ‘
Maybe not 100%, but less and less is made here. As time continues, and as the other `autos` leave, it will eventually move to fully foreign.
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘worked for 18months for a components manufacturer in the past,’ ‘ ‘ ‘
Yeah, How long ago tho Dunny.?
*go-clive*
I quite like the notion that young people can pursue a technical career outside mining or construction.
If Qantas and motor vehicle manufacturing are lost, that’s about it with apprentices, engineers, trades etc unless people wish to find work in mining or construction.
Therefore I’m a reluctant supporter of continuing government support for Holden, subject to them showing some willingness to embrace real reform.
With regard to Qantas- lift the ceiling on foreign investment, and get the chain dragging unions out of the way.
l don`t want to see working-class stiffs lose their job either Dunny,
but l do see the `auto` industry in the same light as TB`s kodak comment above.
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘Much of the conversation about Holden (usually by those not directly impacted by the industry [other than blubbing about subsidies] ) deliberately ignores the not insignificant flow on affects through other companies & manufacturing in general.’ ‘ ‘ ‘
BULLSHIT
lf there was all the `flow-on` Dunny, Holden/Union would not be blubbering FOR said welfare, year after year after year.
Why should this `industry` receive welfare, when others `must` go to the wall.?
Just how much ca$h should be thrown on the `auto`welfare bonfire.?
Kick out Holden and build something else to replace it, they could manufacture the Hyperloop in the old factory.
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘I quite like the notion that young people can pursue a technical career outside mining or construction.’ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘
Fascinating. Just as long as they don`t unionize and want decent pay and safety, l suppose you will let them un-block your sewer-pipes or do dangerous and/or dirty stuff you don`t want to do.
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘I’m a reluctant supporter of continuing government support for Holden, subject to them showing some willingness to embrace real reform.’ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘
reform.? yeah `auto` has done such a `fine` job in the reform area, all they have ever done in oz is hold their hand out, in teh-usa destroy workers wages.
govt-support for Holden.? fascinating that you don`t demand a `cost-benefit` and a `max-limit` here. Hypocrisy. lf Joolya was still in, teabags would be demanding both of them.
Really 730, you’re such a goose most of the time.
I said the same thing when the ALP was in government. It isn’t simply the wages that stifle manufacturing. It is the overlay of unreliability, the constant threat of labour disruption, particularly when manufacturers plan their overhaul and shutdown maintenance. Union claims often aren’t advanced by the permanent workforce, the pressure is applied when the annual shutdown is on.
The uninformed often blame underinvestment for the state of manufacturing, and that’s true, but our reputation for hopelessly unreliable upgrade and construction is a big reason for the investment reluctance.
(just out of interest – are you familiar with spelling and grammar?)
(just out of interest – are you familiar with spelling and grammar?)
irrelevant comment, ToM …
Just as … evil exists when good folk do nothing … unions exist because of poor management …
Always struck me as odd that a tradesperson MUST be qualified but managers and consultants don’t …
I said the same thing when the ALP was in government.
1. lt`s Joolya`s fault.
2. lt`s all Joolya`s fault.
3. lt`s still Joolya`s fault.
*. Did l mention, lt`s still all Joolya`s fault.
On second thoughts, they could invite Siemens in to build VFT. In the US they are demanding that their fast rail trains be built at home.
Dec. 01–SACRAMENTO — ‘California has yet to break ground on its controversial high-speed train system, and legal challenges remain in the path of construction.
‘But that’s not stopping the California High-Speed Rail Authority, in conjunction with Amtrak, from shopping around for the best deal on multimillion-dollar trains to roll on their proposed high-speed lines — in California between San Francisco and Los Angeles through the San Joaquin Valley, and Amtrak’s Acela service between Boston and Washington, D.C.
‘Together, the two agencies are preparing to ask for bids in coming weeks from manufacturers to build between 50 and 60 train sets capable of carrying passengers at speeds up to 220 mph.
‘From a 34-acre plant in southeast Sacramento, Siemens Industry is one of a handful of multinational companies with an eye on the prize — a contract for “rolling stock” potentially worth $2 billion or more.’
‘Course they are wazza … but they don’t want a backlash from potential and current owners!
And here’s a big clue PLUS the reason we should NOT fund anymore BS …
The article is a good read on why we really should just piss them off …
http://www.news.com.au/technology/design/federal-government-calls-on-holden-boss-mike-devereux-to-give-australia-the-truth-about-its-future/story-fnjwucvh-1226779214737
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘It isn’t simply the wages that stifle manufacturing.’ ‘ ‘ ‘
Maybe so, but there is a constant threat directed at these jobs from boardrooms that include workers`wages` in boardroom screeching.
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‘ ‘ ‘ ‘the constant threat of labour disruption,’ ‘ ‘ ‘
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘particularly when manufacturers plan their overhaul and shutdown maintenance.’ ‘ ‘ ‘
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘Union claims often aren’t advanced by the permanent workforce,’ ‘ ‘ ‘
? ? ? ?
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘pressure is applied when the annual shutdown is on.’ ‘ ‘ ‘
Boo-Hoo. The poor boardroom is `pressured` from big-bad boogie-man-unions once a year to keep their members conditions up to scratch. But Let`s all look the other way for the whole/rest of the year that shit flows down-hill.
Most corporate head-aches are created in teh-boardroom,
trimming here and there, until catastrophic failure kicks in.
I don’t have an opinion on this particular matter. Although Ian MacFarlane has a funny voice.
Add this to TB`s quote.
The cost benefit may not look so good.
“Either you’re here or you’re not!”
I can’t believe that Joe Hockey and Warren Truss are actually goading Holden to leave Australia.
Although Ian MacFarlane has a funny voice.
You only just noticed? 😯
He looks like Popeye too … 😉
Does Hockey look like Bluto with a shave? 😯
I can’t believe that Joe Hockey and Warren Truss are actually goading Holden
Pffft! They do it to countries† … why not “friendly”* companies …*
† Indonesia, China, East Timor
*sarc …
Good point TB…
Today China, tomorrow the world!
730 seems to know
nothingplenty about manufacturing.‘The Treasury today sold its last shares of General Motors stock, ending more than four years of government ownership in the nation’s largest automaker at a loss of about $10.5 billion to U.S. taxpayers. The government said in a statement that it recouped $39 billion of its original $49.5 billion investment into GM.’
Read more: http://www.autonews.com/#ixzz2n3l4SYLC
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Some of us do, ToM …
… do you have an engineering trade background? Union Rep? Production Manager? Service Manager? Health & Safety Manager (production)? Training Manager? Consultant in CBL?
And quals to back it up?
Just askin’ …. and I’ll keep on askin’ … ’cause your arguments are all agin unions and never against poor management …
I’m quite happy to send sreb, my CV … are you?
Don’t misunderstand me … I’ve fought both stupid union leaders and stupid managers .. it is not as lopsided as you have obviously experienced …
GM (forget Holden that is just a marketing ploy) and Ford have raped this country … and QANTAS has been destroyed by an incompetent right at the top … not at the bottom …
I’m quite well qualified TB.
egg, that’s a bit misleading Treasury meaning the US Treasury … but it does demonstrate that GM may be on the down … because of its product mix – that are determined by management – not unions – as in Germany … workers sit on the board and look at the German marques’ success recently …
Australia has a lot to learn about production techniques in the BOARDROOM!
‘Sales of passenger vehicles in China, the world’s largest auto market, rose by 14.9% in November to 1.63 million units, the government-published China Daily said on Saturday, citing China Passenger Car Association figures.’
Forbes
I’m quite well qualified TB.
No your not … you prattle booklearning and senior management twaddle …
reb + tb, l doubt the goading will work, Deveraux is ignoring them and keeping `cards` close to chest. The writing has been on the wall for a mighty long time.
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yomm, yaaaaawwwwwn
https://theguttertrash.com/2013/12/10/coalition-suffers-worst-opinion-poll-result-since-2011/#comment-39339
The point I’m making is that GM has already decided to take their business to China.
No your not…
Though generally I know the difference between “you’re” and “your”
‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘I’m quite well qualified TB.’ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘ 😆 ` 😆 ` 😆 ` 😆 ` 😆 `
l doubt it. You`re just a not too bright, that had good fortune. Luck. Your ignorance has no bounds.
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‘ ‘ ‘ ‘The point I’m making is that GM has already decided to take their business to China.’ ‘ ‘ ‘
Even Dumpty is firing on all cylinders, on this one.
“GM (forget Holden that is just a marketing ploy) and Ford have raped this country”
Yeah! If it wasn’t for stoopid foreign investment we wouldn’t be worrying now about what to do with our motor industry.
Though generally I know the difference between “you’re” and “your”
And I know fogging when I see it … simple grammatical slip, sunshine … and a very large LOOK OVER THERE!
I don’t put you in the, Inane, class but I know one sided BS when I read it …
Defending poor management is just that …
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Yeah! If it wasn’t for stoopid foreign investment we wouldn’t be worrying now about what to do with our motor industry.
More stoopid defending … WE don’t HAVE an automotive manufacturing industry – WE never had one (motor? Just how old are you ToSY?) And whose worrying? Gold, sheep, mining and the occasional war … all money making endeavours … something is just around the corner … I had hoped it was education and training but we buggered that up pretty well … Liberal government in power – we’ll just find a nother war somewhere … she’ll be right, mate! 🙄
Tom’s showin’ off his fancy book learnin’. Yes sirree, goddammit.
“And whose worrying?”
The onlty’worrying’ I’m doing is worrying the government might give them more cash. Taxpayers should not be propping up businesses that can’t make a profit. Let ’em fail, I say.
*only ‘worrying’
***our motor 😆 industry***
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lpad`osy, our `auto` industry is, and always have been, out-posts of Detroit and Tokyo, where the `main` decisions are taken, and also the profits.
“motor? Just how old are you ToSY?”
Huh? 😕
TB, I’ve previously outlined my outstanding academic qualifications and extensive expertise, I see no reason to trot this out again simply at your demand.
I agree that poor industrial relations is a result of poor management, but this is usually expedient management of an earlier generation. When contemporary management, such as Joyce, try to restore some balance into the relationship, the union and their barrackers go into a complete frenzy.
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Yes IPA, “fancy book learnin’ “ is a waste of time, when we could be getting our instriuction and education on the job, doing an MBA with competency based learning, or something.
TB, I’ve previously outlined my outstanding academic qualifications and extensive expertise, I see no reason to trot this out again simply at your demand.
My point was that you demanded the same of someone else … its a BBus BTW … not clever enough for a an MBA – obviously … 🙄
All in all with the dips a total of 10+ years “hittin’ them thar’ books ‘n’ stuff, while actually doin’ and earnin’ a quid too!
A simple question … do you really think we will supply Asia with American motor vehicles for the next century?
A no brainer really …
Oh, and just in case you thought you got a way with it … >>>>>> TB, I’ve previously outlined my outstanding academic qualifications and extensive expertise, <<<<<< … no you haven't …
“Outstanding” as in “yet to be provided..?”
I can’t see where I’ve demanded to see the academic qualifications of anyone else.
I have questioned some people’s familiarity with industries such as airlines of manufacturing, this seems reasonable the way they waffle on about LAMEs (and union disputation in Qantas) without even beginning to understand the structure of training and airworthiness certification, or the continual union turf wars that drive the inefficient and costly work practices.
…and I have previously outlined my excellent (book learnin’) tertiary and post graduate qualifications, volunteered them even.
I believe ToM is correct… He has previously outlined his credentials (not that it should really matter)..
Yes, he has. Although I don’t specifically recall what they were. As you say, it shouldn’t really matter.
I don’t find it too difficult to deduce when someone here is commenting from a position of insight.
I’d have thought it was fairly obvious that YomM is no fool & has no need to fabricate.
Same goes for TB, fwiw.
“Outstanding” as in “yet to be provided..?”
🙂
The tip of the iceberg, perhaps.
http://pickeringpost.com/story/relief-for-gillard-accusers/2463
‘RESOURCES, infrastructure and road projects worth a total of $400 billion have been given the green light as the Abbott government demolishes objections from the Greens and moves to reverse a predicted fall in mining investment that could drag down the economy for two years. Environment Minister Greg Hunt has taken decisions on 125 projects in the Coalition’s first three months in office, including approving 29 major projects, which the government estimates are worth $400bn.’
Sid Maher / Oz