Abbott Govt to Take Axe to Social Welfare
One of the main protagonists of WorkChoices Kevin Andrew, has signalled that the Abbott government plans to take the axe to Ausrtralia’s welfare system telling The Gutter Trash that too many people rely on government welfare for their livelihood.
According to the Minister for Just for Men, more than five million people now receive government welfare in one form or another,” he said.
Arguing the case for a tougher approach accessing welfare payments, Mr Andrews is calling for a “10-year review” of Australia’s welfare system.
“We need to ensure that over time, in the long term, the welfare system remains sustainable,” Mr Andrews said.
“Our view is that the best form of welfare is work. If people are capable of work and if work’s available then we want to encourage as many Australians as possible to work.”
The Abbott government was already working towards that goal, through incentives to encourage people to work, Mr Andrews said.
He cited policies including $2500 payments for those under 30 who take themselves off welfare and get a job for 12 months. He also cited payments for Australians who move from cities to regional areas for a job.
The former chief executive of Mission Australia, Patrick McClure, has been appointed to lead Mr Andrews’ review of Australia’s welfare system and he is expected to report back in February.
Parenting payments and the disability support pension were two areas of welfare that “would be sensible to review again”, Mr Andrews told the ABC.
Opposition Leader Bill Shorten urged the Prime Minister to rule out any changes to the old age pension, including slowing the rate of its growth.
Mr Shorten said if Mr Abbott was serious about reducing welfare he should ”get rid of the multimillionaire’s welfare”.
”Get rid of this gold-plated paid parental scheme,” Mr Shorten said.
”If they want to tackle the real problems, don’t start at the bottom of the heap,” he added. ”Don’t start at the people who haven’t got a voice… Don’t pick on the people who can’t fight back.”
Over the past few weeks, Mr Andrews has used announcements in The Australian newspaper to warn the public of his plans to crack down on welfare payments.
Mr Andrews flagged the idea of preventing welfare recipients from refusing to take a job on the grounds that it was more than 90 minutes travel from their home.
“We want to encourage people to take a job even if there are circumstances where that job might be further away,” Mr Andrews said.
In a story last week, Mr Andrews said it was his “inclination” to consider splitting the Newstart unemployment benefit into different “tiers”, which could apply to the payment rate or the conditions attached to receiving it.
theguttertrash.com 
The former chief executive of Mission Australia, Patrick McClure, has been appointed to lead Mr Andrews’ review of Australia’s welfare system and he is expected to report back in February.
A month! Guffaw!
”Get rid of this gold-plated paid parental scheme,” Mr Shorten said.
Hear! Hear!
The photo says it all … sinister looking prick … and we know how good his decisions were last time he was a minister …
Maybe they should take an axe to George Brandis’ bookcase.
‘In a story last week, Mr Andrews said it was his “inclination” to consider splitting the Newstart unemployment benefit into different “tiers”, which could apply to the payment rate or the conditions attached to receiving it.’
Yep, its the way to go.
Primarily because the welfare system has created a permanent underclass, which needs to be eliminated. Humanely.
This is how they encourage the underclass to get off the welfare tit (bottom tier) while at the same time offering incentives to decentralise and find work in the bush.
Incentivation (sic)
‘The Abbott government was already working towards that goal, through incentives to encourage people to work, Mr Andrews said.
‘He cited policies including $2500 payments for those under 30 who take themselves off welfare and get a job for 12 months. He also cited payments for Australians who move from cities to regional areas for a job.’
Primarily because the welfare system has created a permanent underclass, which needs to be eliminated. Humanely.
… straight out of Himmler’s Handbook of Humanitarian Extinction …
I did say humanely.
Intergenerational welfare isn’t healthy for anyone – recipients, taxpayers, the children of recipients, the general community.
Part of the problem is the effective marginal tax rate that penalises people as soon as they start earning, benefits disappear so quickly that there is no interest in moving from welfare to work.
There seems to be a strong push to decentralise, thinking growth in the regions will be self supporting and soak up the unemployed. In theory it might work, but if they are really serious they will need to add bullet trains and satellite towns to the mix.
“there is no interest in moving from welfare to work.”
Especially in places like Tasmania where wages are already so low, that the unemployment benefit and single mothers benefit look quite lucrative by comparison.
The fact that Tasmania has the nation’s highest proportion of teenage single mothers is no coincidence.
The Tasmanian Solution might be the answer, it could be replicated throughout the regions.
The Abbott government is planning a three pronged attack on the underclass for their own good.
The idea is to allow cashed up foreigners, with the free enterprise spirit, to settle in the regions and become citizens.
Skilled migrants from overseas will join them, along with a pool of unemployed.
“The fact that Tasmania has the nation’s highest proportion of teenage single mothers is no coincidence.”
Indeed. In societies where incest is the norm their fathers and brothers get at them first.
”If they want to tackle the real problems, don’t start at the bottom of the heap,” he added. ”Don’t start at the people who haven’t got a voice… Don’t pick on the people who can’t fight back.”
Reminds me of something. I wonder if we will get the same kind of front pages from the targets of this Governments pruning? It only seems fair.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new-rich-adrift-in-ocean-of-debt-and-despair-as-budget-attacks-middle-class/story-e6frevp9-1226053615460
the disability support pension were two areas of welfare that “would be sensible to review again”,
I wonder if the NDIS will be taken into consideration when “reviewing”? They might find that if they were to implement it as was designed, the NDIS itself might get many of those disabled back into the working system without any further “reviews”.
opposition Leader Bill Shorten urged the Prime Minister to rule out any changes to the old age pension, including slowing the rate of its growth.
According to some data, this might make life very difficult for reviewers.
LOL splatter
“When it comes to welfare – ignoring lazy tabloid stereotypes and dealing with facts – most economists argue that Australia has one of the most tightly targeted payment systems in the developed world.”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/21/coalition-needs-to-look-beyond-welfare-cutbacks-to-balance-the-budget?CMP=fb_gu
The fact that Tasmania has the nation’s highest proportion of teenage single mothers is no coincidence.
Do Taswegians get twice as much welfare for a baby?
Yeah, JJ, after looking at the numbers on the tweet – best of luck culling that … seems we are suffering more Liberal BS to pay for their parental leave BS …
Abbott’s paid parental leave scheme should be placed in the bottom draw until we get growth to sustain it, allowing the underclass to breed unencumbered.
‘But it’s evident from a couple of media outings on Tuesday that Andrews is banking on growth to some degree at least to get the country out of fiscal trouble. The minister, for example, sees Tony Abbott’s paid parental leave scheme less as an overly generous handout to middle class Australian women and more as a positive workforce and population measure – an incentive to maintain the birth rate. Andrews said on Tuesday that one quarter to one third of economic growth comes through population growth alone.’
Murphy / Guardian
Andrews said on Tuesday that one quarter to one third of economic growth comes through population growth alone.’
Ahhh … so its about the economy not society …
Their intention is to create growth through increased immigration into the regions. The economy comes first and society will surely follow.
This is the government that called Labor Dysfunctional? Yeah “right”
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/21/tax-avoiders-australia-amnesty
Now we have a tyke PM are they gonna pay people to breed again? I guess that’s Inane fucked his slack back DSP will go and he will be forced to resume his career as an independent automotive professional noddy nodder 🙄
“Opposition Leader Bill Shorten urged the Prime Minister to rule out any changes to the old age pension, including slowing the rate of its growth.”
Well Labor did make some changes to the pension. They increased the qualifying age at which you can get it to 67 because the govt could not afford to pay it from age 65 according to Wayne Swan
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-22/productivity-commission-recommends-raising-pension-age-to-70/5109630
http://www.smh.com.au/national/pension-age-rise-our-idea-abbott-20090521-bh74.html
Thank you for that childishly simplistic explanation kneel..its all labors fault is it 🙄 I may remind you genius if it wasn’t for labor there would be no compulsory superannuation whatsoever, which was opposed by the noalition at every turn…next
There is a bipartisan approach to retiring people…. later the better.
The economy comes first and society will surely follow.
Arse about face as usual, egg … but then with an egg its hard (‘scuse the pun) to know the difference …
Pension age could be based upon actual years paying taxes … one size fits all doesn’t work … I retired at 59 and get some pension … after 45 years of working and paying tax (and part of which was for my government pension untl 1992) …
Therefore people who study until they are 21-22 and then have a sabbatical and start work at 23 would be eligible (after, say, 45 years) at 68 … (numbers are flexible of course)
Just sayin’ …
So, it is just the unemployed and disabled this Government is seeking to “review”. I guess middle class welfare is no longer “welfare” but has truly crossed the border into “entitlement”?
And, while they scream and rage against those most vulnerable, those least vulnerable, in fact, those who have actively sought to NOT pay their taxes, are given a free pass, in fact, a helping hand, from their privileged elite now in charge of the coffers.
Labor were castigated and lambasted for any attempt to try and reign in this middle class welfare, or to return welfare to being actually about welfare. I wonder what the News LTD papers are saying about this? I’m guessing they will be rolling out stories about bogus pension claims and lazy dole bludgers, and ignore the real crooks in the debate
Just remember, we voted for this, too late to complain now. Isn’t it?
The situation reveals that either Hockey is a great obfuscator and that the “debt crisis” is a furphy being used to justify some sick ideological punishment of the poor for being poor, or that the comfort and convenience of the very rich takes precedent over any considerations of the nation’s best interest. Or maybe it’s both – and that’s the most terrifying conclusion to draw should this tax amnesty go ahead. Australia is not merely being lied to, we’re being robbed as well.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/21/tax-avoiders-australia-amnesty
‘Just remember, we voted for this, too late to complain now. Isn’t it?’
the government is doing fine and has my full support. Middle class welfare is on the nose and there’s a bipartisan agreement to scrap it.
News Ltd is unlikely to make a Mail of itself by denigrating cheats, because our system is better regulated and the old divisive days are over.
Middle class welfare is on the nose and there’s a bipartisan agreement to scrap it.
Then why is the Government limiting the “review” to unemployed and disabled? And, in opposition, they railed loudly against any moves against it, even directly after Hockey went to England and appeared to offer his support for it?
the government is doing fine
Tell the Indonesians, East Timorese, Chinese or Nauruans, Then move onto manufacturing workers and Public Schools, now the disabled and unemployed. Given that, I’m not surprised at your support.
The Abbott government has guaranteed a funding increase for private but not for public schools under the Gonski funding model, a public education advocacy group says.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbott-government-has-sabotaged-school-funding-system-report-claims-20140121-316×9.html#ixzz2r58XZfLk
Trashing the country one day at a time.
‘Then why is the Government limiting the “review” to unemployed and disabled?’
Have to start somewhere.
‘Trashing the country one day at a time.’
This government is not divisive and fully intends to grow the country with increasing migration, developing a greater middle class. Admittedly they have had some minor disasters in foreign affairs, but in the fullness of time these wrinkles will be ironed out.
At home the collapse of manufacturing was overdue and unavoidable.
At home the collapse of manufacturing was overdue
Then why did it need so much encouragement from Hockey?
Have to start somewhere.
Yet with all their other “reviews”, everything is on the table. Highly selective, especially when you consider that our unemployed already have been shown to receive too little, and the NDIS needs to be fully implemented before any “review” into disability will reveal anything of current value
Meanwhile, they know that millionaires are hiding their income, they have proven that they can locate this and retrieve this, yet they want to give them a free pass.
You can see why this might appear more like class war than actual belt-tightening.
‘Then why did it need so much encouragement from Hockey?’
GM was having discussions in Beijing at the time Joe was posturing.
‘Meanwhile, they know that millionaires are hiding their income,’
Not too sure about that, but if you could give me a few names and where they are parking their excess cash I’ll follow it up.
GM was having discussions in Beijing at the time Joe was posturing.
GM are always having discussions. Our Treasurer isn’t always daring them to leave.
Not too sure about that, but if you could give me a few names and where they are parking their excess cash I’ll follow it up.
I put the link up for you before. Why make it my problem if you are too lazy to read it?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/21/tax-avoiders-australia-amnesty
This pretty much sums up the Weddings, Parties, Anything Party
At an open forum on day two of the Detroit motor show, Ford chief Alan Mulally was asked by a university student about the importance of government assistance in manufacturing.
“No country is ever successful in the long term … without a really strong and vibrant manufacturing base,” said Mr Mulally.
“It’s the foundation of all economic development. You actually make things that create value. That’s why every country around the world is collaborating with the private sector … to figure out how to create an environment where manufacturing (is viable).”
http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/ford-global-boss-alan-mulally-says-australia-economy-will-suffer-without-car-makers-ford-holden-and-toyota/story-fnkgdhrc-1226802590442
Meanwhile, instead of fighting for our manufacturing base, our party for the privileged basically kicked ours out.
“Tell the Indonesians, East Timorese, Chinese or Nauruans”
It was Rudd who authorized the snooping on the Indonesian Presidents wife and it was Rudd who called the Chines ratf***ers. And there were no problems at Nauru until Rudd dismantled Howards Pacific Solution.
“Meanwhile, instead of fighting for our manufacturing base, our party for the privileged basically kicked ours out.”
Most of our manufacturing base left under Labor from 1983-1996. Back in the 70’s we used to make everything.
It was Rudd who …..
It is not Rudd they are upset with.
Most of our manufacturing base left under Labor
A lot of manufacturing declined, yes, our base remained. Within three months of the new Government, are automotive industry is pulped. It would not have happened under Labor without a fight.
‘GM are always having discussions. Our Treasurer isn’t always daring them to leave.’
Joe knew in advance that GM had big plans to enter the China market, that Australia was too small and unprofitable.
GM just finished paying back their loan to the US government, which gave them renewed freedom to expand their market and drop us.
Joe’s grandstanding was amusing.
Joe knew in advance that GM had big plans to enter the China market, that Australia was too small and unprofitable.
In direct contradiction to what Holden in Australia were telling him? As if. If they had that information, it would be pertinent to release it.
Joe’s grandstanding was amusing.
Nice that you find thousands of workers being “Liberated” from their livelihoods amusing. It does reveal more about you than I think you would prefer.
” It would not have happened under Labor without a fight.”
Talk about being deluded. Ford left under Labor why would GM be any different??
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/making-cars-in-australia-makes-no-sense-says-gm-man-who-closed-holden/story-e6frg6n6-1226801460552
“IT is impossible to build cars in Australia competitively and no amount of government incentives could have saved Holden, the head of General Motors international operations said.”
‘If they had that information, it would be pertinent to release it.’
They would have, as soon as they signed the deal with the Celestial Kingdom. Joe knew in advance and thought he might try his bovver boy routine, gain political mileage, but everyone blamed him for GMs departure.
Ford left, but Labor FOUGHT to keep them here. And yes, I have seen Holden management recently sucking up to our Government, guess they want to try and keep selling cars in this country? Can you find someone within Holden BEFORE Hockey attacked them in Parliament telling us they cannot make cars here? All the news was they wanted to, and the numbers could be made to work even while our dollar was so high.
Hockey knew nothing, except what his masters told him to know.
GM had already decided to pull out and management was being disingenuous, so Warren and Joe demanded a clarification.
http://www.afr.com/p/national/hockey_dares_gm_to_leave_URe2aMQqTVACqNcjO8voHL
GM had already decided to pull out
As I said, there is nothing from Holden itself, just rumours and scaremongering, most from Liberal MPs, that revealed Hockeys hands. As your link states, Mike Devereux, the man in charge, showed the figures that would keep it here, and would have, had Labor still been in power.
Peddling rumours from within the very party responsible for their demise just shows how far they were willing to go to kill them off.
Whatever, anyway its history.
Whatever, anyway its history.
Yes, a history this Liberal Government will have to wear. The wanton destruction of an icon, and the “Liberation” of the thousands who made their living from it.
Stuff them and you can stick your icon too.
Stuff them and you can stick your icon too.
Did Hockey write that for you?
lol
“Peddling rumours from within the very party responsible for their demise just shows how far they were willing to go to kill them off.”
That really is an offensive comment.
In case you don’t know in the 1970’s we used to make most things here. Now we hardly make anything. And all the manufacturers give the same reason why they leave- cost of business in Australia.
I would put the blame at Unions and the ALP. Toyota management asked Unions instead of shutting down for 3 weeks could they shut down for only 10 days over Christmas. A reasonable request. Nope, Unions would not agree. Union most probably would say if we give in, Toyota will have us working for $2/hr next year.
That really is an offensive comment.
It is, isn’t it. The fact that is true makes it even more offensive. It is hardly surprising, after treatment like that, the Holden left, even though they had not only survived, but prospered, under this terrible yoke of the Unions
“The fact that is true makes it even more offensive”
And you wonder why i detest the ALP and its supporters.
Yeah and next you will be saying it was Abbots fault that Ford left.
Making false statements is not going to solve the problem of manufacturing continuing to leave the country.
To solve the problem we need Chinese help.
Making false statements is not going to solve the problem of manufacturing continuing to leave the country.
Don’t blame me Neil, it was in eggs link
Mr Devereux’s statement to the government’s Productivity Commission inquiry into car industry assistance contradicted a report in The Wall Street Journal and claims by unnamed federal ministers that GM has already decided to pull out.
http://www.afr.com/p/national/hockey_dares_gm_to_leave_URe2aMQqTVACqNcjO8voHL
the problem of manufacturing continuing to leave the country cannot be solved anymore. The white towel has been thrown in, we are now a quarry, and that is it.
And I thought Kevin “Shifty” Andrews was trying to save money … seems he just want to rob the poor to give to wealthy … how much do these young turkeys spend on weddings these days?
I smell the slimy hand of organised religion here somewhere … Shifty is another catlik …
http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/federal-government-offers-newlyweds-200-voucher-to-attend-marriage-counselling/story-fnii5v6w-1226808063646
Just saw that one TB. This was an interesting piece of the puzzle
I could be wrong, but reckon the chances that Margaret Andrews of Marriage Education Programme Inc. is the same Margaret Andrews who is Kevin Andrew’s wife and it is just a ‘coincidence’ that Marriage Education Programme Inc. is also on this register?
http://yathink.com.au/article-display/200-marriage-counselling-voucher-is-offensive-smells-to-me,103
“Don’t blame me Neil, it was in eggs link”
Lots of false statements around. Holden also promised to make cars for the next 10 years in a big press statement by Gillard. Then Ford up and left meaning Holden was not viable.
I blame Rudd/gillard for letting Ford leave and we could go on forever.
None of your stupid comments are helping and none of your statements are going to help whatever manufacturing we have left in Australia.
Holden also promised to make cars for the next 10 years in a big press statement by Gillard.
Yes, with the promise of Government assistance
Then Ford up and left meaning Holden was not viable.
No, Holden became nonviable when the Government did not offer up the assistance. That is the order of events
Are you sure?? What i have read was that Ford leaving meant that Holden was nonviable and they broke the promise they made.
But your comments just add to the problem. Do you care about jobs?? What manufacturing we have left will also up and leave because of your stupid statements.
Toyoto will also go if we don’t solve the problems and more money is not the answer.
What i have read was that Ford leaving meant that Holden was nonviable
Then you haven’t read anything that I have put up have you.
What i read said that after Ford leaving Holden wanted even more money which the Coalition refused to do. Holden promised to stay here for 10 years in a big press release by Gillard
http://pmtranscripts.dpmc.gov.au/browse.php?did=18458
“So, I’m pleased to be here today with the Premier, with Minister Combet, with Holden and Mike, to announce some good news. And the good news is that the future of General Motors is now secure in this country for the next decade.”
And Holden was always going to leave if Ford left.
And Holden was always going to leave if … if the Government removed its subsidies.
Really Neil, do you expect one side to keep with a contract, when the other has deliberately done everything to wreck their side of the same contract? When they made that pledge, the Government had pledged to offer them subsidies. When that is taken away, then the deal has obviously changed irrevocably
‘Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews has declared the age of entitlement over, promising to rein in young Australians who, under the previous Labor government, were given the full disability support pension despite their condition being relatively minor, occurring periodically, or failing to prevent them from working part-time.’
Andrew Carswell / Daily Terror
””””””’Toyoto will also go if we don’t solve the problems and more money is not the answer.”””””’
Toyota will also go anyway, no-matter-what.
More corporate-welfare is not the answer.
Neither is bread-and-water work conditions.
They`re going.
”””””””””’And I thought Kevin “Shifty” Andrews was trying to save money … seems he just want to rob the poor to give to wealthy””””””
Nah TB, just another christian demonstrating his `christian`values