Who do you believe?
A number of reports have emerged in recent days – predominantly emanating from those illegal immigrant apologists the ABC – that those good folk at the Australian Navy have been forcing asylum seekers to hold onto burning hot steel pipes until their feeble fingers sizzle and burst into blisters and third degree burns.
This of course is abject nonsense. This morning, Prime Minister Abbott took appropriate measures to denounce these scurrilous rumours telling non-apologist journalists that these accusations were nothing other than a mischevious attempt to “sledge” the good character of Australia’s upstanding military personal.
“There is no evidence to support these claims,” he said. (Apart from the photographs of the burns victims).
“Who do you believe? Do you believe Australian naval personnel or do you believe people who were attempting to break Australian law? I believe Australian naval personnel” said Mr Abbott.
And that’s good enough for me.
It’s not too difficult to imagine that after a few days languishing on the open seas sheer boredom may lead these so-called “asylum seekers” to resort to a game of pass-the-burning-white-hot-steel rod to while the hours away, and who are we to be blamed for this abject stupidity.
Like everything else, they’ve brought it upon themselves and yet expect us, the already impoverished taxpayer, what with rising inflation, escalating property prices and other cost of living pressures to contend with, to lavish them with health care that many of our own people already cannot afford.
It’s not good enough and it’s about time someone took a stand. Fortunately we have Australia’s very own humanitarian Julie Bishop heading up Foreign Affairs.
Overnight Ms Bishop defended Australia’s practice of spying on Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and his wife’s handphone calling it a “matter of life and death.”
“The safety and security of our citizens depends on it” she said.
Ms Bishop said the collection of intelligence by responsible, democratic governments was “not discretionary”.
“It is an imperative in discharging this fundamental duty to protect the safety of its people,” she said. “In short, it saves lives.”
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Our boys are not inhumane.
Who Do I believe? That’s difficult. I like to believe that Our boys are not inhumane.
Unfortunately, Scott Morrison told us that he would not violate Indonesia’s authority, He denied that there was a pregnant woman on Nauru. He keeps telling us there are no boats while his little Navy is busy picking them up and towing them back. And he told us that we were still having dialogue with the Indonesians, even as they came out publicly and stated talks between the two countries over people smuggling and asylum seekers had stalled because of the phone-tapping row.
And I’m sure there are more.
Really, it is getting almost impossible to believe him
The war with Indonesia is going to be great fun….
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/23/indonesia-moves-warships-towards-border?CMP=soc_568
The complexity of our relationship with Indonesia explained (perhaps), by Miglo…
One should not assume that Indonesia’s allegiance to Australia is anything beyond opportunistic—just as all country’s spy, all countries are opportunistic—and it should be admitted at this point that Australia has done little to actively promote a deeper mutual relationship with its Asia-Pacific partners in order to gain more meaningful relationships, is in fact, a fantasy.
In the future a peripheral of the rise of China is Indonesia will begin to look at its Asian neighbours with a renewed interest in terms of who will benefit Indonesia most; and the notion of mutuality will also come to the fore.
Now we all understand.
Its a hive of knowledge over there.
If you’re intent on publishing some tortuous faux academic diatribe, it’s best to avoid stuff like – “all countries spy…” but then immediately get it the grammar right with “all countries are opportunistic”
Serious blogs should run stuff through the spell and grammar check.
Woops – I am so committed to correct spelling.
AIMN said “all country’s spy…”
Since his retirement the overall standard has fallen.
Tonight on the 730 report – crazy eyes bishop! I might have to break open a bottle of red and some cheesy snacks for that one!
Maybe an icy beer tonight
And what happened … a stupid Liberal government policy that is impossible to carry out legally has now tainted the RAN …
… I have had my fun moments on ANZAC Day at The Victory pub with the matelots … my humble opinion – who’d join the fkn Navy – at work though, they are professional to a woman/man …
And I know who I would believe …
Since his retirement the overall standard has fallen.
That happens to retired PS … private enterprise retirees actually spark up, egg … 🙂
I thought you despaired at beer drinkers ToM?
‘private enterprise retirees actually spark up, egg …’
Its true, just getting my second wind.
It’s hot, and Fifi has popped out to get some Thai. That’s the problem with Thai…it doesn’t suit a heart red.
And I refuse to consume pinot or any insipid white.
I find that anything goes with a Coonawarra Cab Sav… It’s just the food that’s argumentative.
Whenever I go to a restaurant I ask for the wine list first. The food is just a mere accompaniment and not always necessary.
In fact, I’d like to see a return to “old fashioned favourites” like deep fried camembert with cranberry sauce.
That’s perfectly suited to a decent red as is any sort of duck or beef dish.
What is it with all these so-called “celebrity chefs” and their “so-called” signature dishes…?
Perhaps 2014 should be the year of the sommelier, and the food should just be a secondary consideration?
It makes sense to me.
Although I can understand how people who live in QLD may struggle with this concept.
I agree!
I always enjoy the wine far more than the food. The food just provides something else to do rather than just drink, it’s a little like conversation – an excuse to imbibe.
People in Queensland are so lacking in culture when it comes to drinking. They really have no idea.
but then immediately get it the grammar right
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In the future a peripheral of the rise of China is Indonesia will begin to look at its Asian neighbours with a renewed interest in terms of who will benefit Indonesia most;
It is a pertinent question though, is it not? We have had a couple of decades where a strengthening relationship with Indonesia from a series of Governments had seen us well placed to take advantage of these opportunities. This Government has reset that relationship, and we are now beginning it all over again from a position of weakness.
And all of this in the name of demonising some of the most defensless people on the planet.
So, are you able to perhaps posit an opinion on how you feel about our relationship with what is looking to become a local powerhouse in the name of cheap politics?
Not really.
I don’t feel any obligation to do anything (right now) other that point out that some self important types should be more careful with their (tortuous, verbose and self important) expression.
some self important types should be more careful with their (tortuous, verbose and self important) expression.
With your own tortuous, verbose and self important expressions? Petty, don’t you think?
I’m not an author, running an important blog. I’m just pointing out that those that adopt the façade of informed articles need to be careful with their spelling.
Also my sentences rarely run to more than 200 words, and if they do, I’ll usually have a coma somewhere.
“I’m not an author, running an important blog. “
Neither am I. But I wonder what it would be like to meet one some day.
Personally, I find it a bit precious to haul people up on their spelling and grammar if they’re making a legitimate point.
On the other hand, if they’re just racist, homophobic redneck fucks, then I think that to point out their all too familiar failure grasp to comprehend the basic constructs of “a sentence” is fair game.
Just sayin’
I’ll usually have a coma somewhere.”
Me too. Usually after the second bottle of wine….
“coma” how do you do one of those blush things?
I would tell you ToM but I’m busy watching Luke Ngyuen on the telly making some satay…
Whenever I go to a restaurant I ask for the wine list first. The food is just a mere accompaniment and not always necessary.
In fact, I’d like to see a return to “old fashioned favourites” like deep fried camembert with cranberry sauce.
I copied the first prar and wholeheratedly agree … then the second para and thought YES! (One of my faves)
Then I read the shite you and ToM wrote about the Northern elite and thought … Mexicans can go fuck themselves … 🙄
I’m beginning to sound like, Sparta … and that is just scary … 😯
I would tell you ToM but I’m busy watching Luke Ngyuen on the telly making some satay…
Were hoping Luke is on our trip .. he actually turns up on some …
I believe this guy.
“I’m beginning to sound like, Sparta … and that is just scary … :shock:”
Logic and reasoning is contagious TB; a very “Western” malady we need to export by whatever means….
“I’ll usually have a coma somewhere.”
‘Me too. Usually after the second bottle of wine….’
LOL
Logic and reasoning is contagious TB
I think you really missed the
sarcasm, irony,satirical implicationpoint, SoPA “malady” … mmmmmmm …
ToM, were you out with the family?
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/police-pelted-by-brawling-vic-youths/story-e6frfku9-1226810299962
”””””I believe Australian naval personnel” said Mr Abbott.””””’
Of course he does.
Mr-Rabbit has form for believing people whose recreational activities include `sexual-assault`, so of course he believes this flotilla, along with adf/a, teh-church and pedo-priests.
Combined with the excessive flag-wavers (like_dunny) of course some things will go to shit, the idiots that aren`t learning, are the stupid pollies, that continue to push for these big gatherings/events.
I would be easier to believe our Government if they would actually answer, or tell us something. Keeping it secret squirrel isn’t a really good look.
TRUST US, says the guy who has just rekindled the Dead, Buried and Cremated workchoices war. Yea, maybe not.
Fairfax Media sent detailed questions to the government about the claims that asylum seekers had their hands deliberately burned.
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“For operational security reasons, the government will not go into further detail on this matter.”
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/questions-put-to-government-20140206-hvbdo.html#ixzz2saNY0850
Details aside, though, his account has been consistent from the first. He says he has no doubt that what he saw at close quarters on about January 3 was three people’s hands being deliberately held to a hot exhaust pipe by Australian naval personnel to punish them for protesting, and to deter others from doing one simple thing: going to the toilet too often.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/investigation-burned-hands-on-the-high-seas-20140206-hvbdl.html#ixzz2saQOE3Rn