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Maybe Scott Morrison should send Ludlam some refugees to put in his spare bedroom. I wonder if his opinion would then be different.
Here’s the whole speech and its apparent he lives on another planet.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/05/scott-ludlam-tony-abbott-speech-wa-byelection
“its apparent he lives on another planet.”
Well you’d be the fair judge of that.
Maybe Scott Morrison should send Ludlam some refugees to put in his spare bedroom. I wonder if his opinion would then be different.
I doubt it.
Do you think there is something awful about housing a refugee family as guests?
Would you fear for your life or something?
I think it’s you that needs to have some refugees in your spare bedroom, you might wake up to yourself and realise they are just people.
‘Well you’d be the fair judge of that.’
🙂
Earthians
The Greens i talk to think Australia is already overcrowded so i am suspicious when people from that side of politics start calling for more asylum seekers.
I have said many times i prefer refugees to skilled immigrants. But have yet to see estimates from people like Ludlam as to how many we should take. Just lots of emotion about how mean, nasty and racist we are.
Should we take all 40 million refugees Mr Ludlam??
You’ve been stuck on that question for months neil, why does it matter to you? How many do you think we should take?
And when aren’t you suspicious? It seems to be a permanent state for you.
I sent him $50 of my own money for that effort and I have never voted Green in my life.
Hey Kneel it’s kind of overwhelming when he lines all Phoney’s bullshit up, then serves it up steaming and rubs ya nose in it. 🙂
But beyond doubt Tony’s stupidity hit a new high point …. Tony hates trees.
Loggers are the best environmentalist and we have too many national parks and “locked up forests” 😦
http://bit.ly/1fGiuzs
That`s a fcuking brilliant quote of Scott Ludlam`s. l agree. 🙂 😆
‘CHINESE Premier Li Keqiang has vowed to accelerate a free-trade deal with Australia, significantly raising the prospects of an agreement by the end of the year that could provide a $20 billion boost to the economy.
‘The Chinese Premier, addressing the National People’s Congress in Beijing, raised the prospect of a deal with Australia being finalised shortly in a speech that will add momentum to the trade talks ahead of Tony Abbott’s visit to China next month.’
Murdoch and Maher / Oz
‘NSW has stepped up the battle to attract rich Chinese migrants, making it easier to get a visa to settle in Sydney and start a business.
‘Under the significant investor visa, introduced in November 2012, entrepreneurs can get a four-year renewable residency visa if they invest $5 million in Australia.’
Mark Coultan / Oz
“And when aren’t you suspicious? It seems to be a permanent state for you.”
The Greens i have met think humans are a pest and we should greatly reduce the human population to solve a lot of our problems.
So when a Greens politician starts calling for more immigration, i suspect an ulterior motive.
Watermelons are all heart and no brain.
It’s quite telling that Senator Scumbag Ludlam tries to avoid the real issue being the failed policies of the Greens and the ALP killed something like 1200 men women and children at sea in the period 2007 to 2013.
I’m sure Morison can wear criticism from the Greens and the failed ALP as a badge of honour since his policies have saved countless lives and that pisses off the Greens no end.
The Greens love body counts as it enables them to show up Western Society “Evils”.
Without bodies the Greens become irrelevant. Bob Brown completely failed to turn them into a mainstream party and now they’ll just continue to operate at the fringe being ignored by the overwhelming majority of voters.
The Greens will fester forever with their policies drawn from those low forms of life found in University Dorms
Neil, the sort of figures involved in refugee immigration are less than a drop in the bucket of Australia’s population, let alone world population. Helping or denying a few thousand hapless, persecuted victims will not push Australia over some hypothetical line of starvation. It is true that there are many hundred of thousands of refugees available in the world, with the great likelihood that the climate policies of this government and governments around the world will lead to millions more in coming decades; but the percentage of these who will even be able to seek refuge in Australia is miniscule. We are just too far away. Look at the figures of Australia’s refugee arrivals compared to, say, Spain or Italy, even the US, and you’ll see that we’re not pulling our weight.
Certainly, the world has too many humans. Policies that might constrain population growth, particularly in parts of the world where overpopulation and resultant poverty are endemic, would be welcome. Do we need those policies here? No, Australia is already not at replacement birth rate. Australia’s population growth is only due to the immigration intake that we *do* maintain. (http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/15population.htm). Furthermore, Australia is not yet overpopulated, although we do have some significant problems with urban concentration.
I don’t think many in the Greens would argue for *depopulation* (although some might, but they’re on the extremes, the same as those who argue for unconstrained corporate power ought to be).
In the end it comes down to this: arguing that the humanity is a destructive plague carrying out a ruthless war of extermination against the natural environment is *not* analogous to arguing that we should leave people to be tortured where they had the misfortune of being born.
There are a range of people who should hang their heads in shame over asylum seekers.
Many specifically chose to accept the ALP’s lurching around on the issue as reasonable. They now protest loudly about the current regime. Hypocrites.
I don’t think either party is motivated by any sense humanitarianism. It’s all about punishment, and that’s ugly, regardless of ‘stopping the boats’
“Neil, the sort of figures involved in refugee immigration are less than a drop in the bucket of Australia’s population”
Boat people numbers were running at 40,000/year based on the monthly number just before the election which is a significant percentage of our total immigration program. And could easily double to 80,000.
OK if that is something we should do lets take 80,000 refugees/year.
“since his policies have saved countless lives and that pisses off the Greens no end.”
Saw a comment on another blog that Scott Morrison announced in QT yesterday that because the boats have stopped we can now take 4,000 refugees from UNHCR camps. Something i guess we have not done for a long time.
“Watermelons are all heart and no brain.
Is that so.
Meanwhile Conservative voters (and bean counters) know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
‘Certainly, the world has too many humans.’
Not true.
‘Is that so.’
I did a straw poll.
“Meanwhile Conservative voters (and bean counters) know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.”
Yeah……………………whatever !
“Watermelons are all heart and no brain”
I disagree
Their ideology is closer to total authoritarianism than most others which means they in fact have no heart and certainly no brain.
Kind of like the old saying….
“If you aren’t a Socialist when you are 20 years old you are a fuckwit without a Heart.
and
If you are a Socialist when you are 40 years old you are a fuckwit without a brain.”
Neil, it may be your opinion that Earth is not carrying too many humans. This is partly a subjective question, of course, because it involves not only “how many humans can live on the planet without running out of resources” but also “what quality of life will those humans have”. If we were hunter-gatherers, the Earth could sustain about 2bn people. Agriculture and animal husbandry bring the carrying capacity up markedly. But there is a point at which increases in industrial efficiency start having deleterious effects on sustainability and the environment and you’d have to be barking to claim that we’re not past that point. For humans to have a reasonable quality of modern life, say half of the average American’s current resource consumption, we would need 1.7 Earths for the current population. So I argue that for humans to have a reasonable quality of life, we have too many humans at present. The only way we can sustain the current population is if eighty percent of current humans live in abject poverty and starvation.
You might be happy with this.
Walrus and Kneel are on fire, somene bump the record player its stuck again.
Broken record ideology parrots on the short shoulders of idiot commissaries spouting hatred soaked generalist opinions .
Any one who voted for Aboutt Farce Tony is now faced with the prospect that they have enabled a unique period of unparalleled fuckwitery in Australia. The only surprise with Tony is to the fuckwits who put him there.
Has always been the case Reb, sell the farm to ya mates and lease it back then complain about government waste…
‘But there is a point at which increases in industrial efficiency start having deleterious effects on sustainability and the environment and you’d have to be barking to claim that we’re not past that point.’
Strongly disagree, as the world develops a greater middle class the population will drop naturally. Also it comes with a better awareness of our earthly environment and how best to preserve it.
Which is not to say there aren’t problems, I’m particularly pissed off with the Chinese for actively wiping out the elephant population of Africa.
‘The only surprise with Tony is to the fuckwits who put him there.’
Jools et al?
Egg this trade agreement with China is ridiculous, its the espionage capital of the universe.. who knows what they are up to. Like Abboott , There is no trusting them that’s 4 sure. The stupidity and hypocrisy of this government is incredulous… complaining about manufacturing and exports and locking us into restrictive one world order charters … designed to flood us with imports and buy up our resources.
‘There is no trusting them ‘
They are dodgy on many levels, but at this particular juncture we must embrace them, take their loans and hope to influence them on the value of democracy and justice.
There is no stopping this revolution, Ji has told its people to go forth into the world and invest, which is precisely what they intend doing.
I see very fast rail as an integral part of decentralisation and mass Chinese immigration.
“designed to flood us with imports and buy up our resources. ”
Are you talking about the Hawke/keating, Howard, Rudd/Gillard or Abbott govts???
Abbott just said Virgin has 140 planes.
They have 94.
Xi has told his people the Shanghai model will be adopted.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014npcandcppcc/2014-03/05/content_17325313.htm
“They have 94.”
Their own website just says they have “more than 80”.
Why would they not say “more than 90” ?
Uh, isn’t 94 more than 80? 🙄
He Kneel who decision was it to lift parallel import restrictions? That would be your superhero the monobrowed midget monarchist.
And who dropped the tariffs??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hawke
“Among other reforms, the Hawke Government dismantled the tariff system, privatised state sector industries, ended the subsidisation of loss-making industries, and sold off the state-owned Commonwealth Bank of Australia.”
Railing against a ‘left’ that no longer exists:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-06/green-railing-against-a-left-that-no-longer-exists/5300948
…In the less charged and more practical conversation to come, howling down an alternative and challenging view with the cry of “leftist!” will wear increasingly thin … especially when it is a substitute for meeting argument with argument, with all those arguments offered from what is now the middle ground of common agreement…
it’s already worn thin, beyond tedium are these stupid tit for tat wars about nothing.
Yes Kneel that would be called modernising the economy a legacy for which the Liberals should Kiss Keating ass for. Parallel importing is the thing that has caused most of the problems , but I guess thats a bit above your simplistic grasp on matter not moronically dumbed down in Fiberal pamphlets… You may have to dig a bit deeper than your google search bar for that.
Waleed Aly in today’s Fairfax papers has set out the Abbott agenda for easy digestion.
There is NO plan. That IS the plan.
In other words. Let it rip. The Market will decide. It is all going to be absolutely tickety-boo to use a technical term.
Whoopee.
Confirmation that Green Senator Scott Ludlam’s pathetic career is likely to be flushed like the turd he is straight down an electoral toilet.
Excellent news
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/christine-milne-pleads-with-labor-for-greens-preference-in-wa-20140306-34a84.html
Hi Dianne. Nice to see you about!
Und Guten Tag Thomas
“There is NO plan”
It would have been better for us if Labor did nothing from 2007-2013.
We would have been better off.
Doesn’t that pamphlet get boring after a while Kneel.
Ahh yes The Free market, the last bastion of thieves, lobbyist and teabaggers that have Woollies shares. It works so well in Australia, don’t it 🙄
I wouldn’t spend that penny just yet 🙂
“……….the last bastion of thieves, lobbyist and teabaggers that have Woollies shares”
I dont have Woollies shares
Ah Ricky, we ain’t seen nuttin yet.
They are still melting down the national treasure to erect the Golden Calf.
The bull was a symbol of power, virility, fertility and prosperity in ancient biblical times.
Dance. Dance about it. Clap your hands and rejoice.
All the cavorting left the Israelites feeling pretty hung over.
The US, home of the ‘Free Market’ is travelling well and so is Thatcher’s Britain. Gina says we need to revive the Iron Maiden out here.
Dianne
Why don’t you move to Russia or North Korea??
Neil! Next you will be telling me Hitler was a leftie?
Sorry Dianne but we already covered that this week and its now well established.
Even Gina lovin’ Toilet seems to have given up on arguing otherwise.
And there is a dance scheduled for tonight LOL
‘…its now well established.’
Yep, but I expect toilet to mount a rear guard action.
“Next you will be telling me Hitler was a leftie?”
Does this even matter any more? “Leftie” is just so last century. Hitler was in fact a progressive!
‘Hitler was in fact a progressive!’
He pulled the world out of the Great Depression.
Do you have a go to hat full of cliche stupidity?
He does… he goggled it.
Yeah Hitlers a socialist so all people who disagree with intolerable lies and wankery of this abysmal rabble masquerading as a government is of the left and hence a Nazi….
Reds under the bed, 99 change hands 🙄
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-06/green-railing-against-a-left-that-no-longer-exists/5300948
Ha Ha.
I suppose the consensus here among the enlightened is that Horst Wessel wrote the Internationale.
Alas I know more about the Nazis – and not from consulting the Google Machine or visiting right wing websites – not to scoff at such foolishness.
And Walrus – enjoy the Foxtrot at the Golden Calf tonight. I hope you got the soup stains out of your blue tie. It is a Blue Tie event I believe.
“They are still melting down the national treasure to erect the Golden Calf.”
At least there will be a golden calf to show for it. It won’t be in pocket of Obeid and his Unionland corruptocrat mates. And it won’t be pissed against the wall by paying more teachers more money for worse educational outcomes or burning down houses or being offered up to Gaia in stupid green unicorn farm subsidies.
“The US, home of the ‘Free Market’ is travelling well”
The free market is well and truly dead in the US and has been for some time. Obama is busy destroying the remnants and turning the US into an international irrelevancy.
I must be a Nazi because that is what the leftoids usually call me. They don’t start with some small garden variety dictator but start with one of the biggest. After calling me a Nazi there is nowhere else to go.
You must be a leftie then Neil.
SB – maybe we have mediocre education outcomes because we are stupid.
Certainly seems so some days.
Today is one and I shall go abroad with a big stick. Neither will I make eye contact.
“I suppose the consensus here among the enlightened is that Horst Wessel wrote the Internationale.”
I didn’t know that.
Wasn’t he a dual cricket international batsman for Australia and South Africa during the 1970s 1980s ?
I didn’t realise he’d put his thoughts to authorship as well.
He is a good commentator these days
Yeah we all could think of plenty
Look at the Avatar, check under your bed… he’s a Pinko
Any credible economist worth their salt will tell you that there is no such thing as a “Free Market” economy. Its a made up term that by definition is an oxymoron, it suggests some type of freedom whilst operating on a Darwinian approach by stealth…
Woolies Business model is Atypical of your free market economy… Buy everything around you including competitors land, then sell grog, buy the hotel and the service station in a small town to sell all the consumables to control everything by stealth…
Free markets unregulated do exactly the inverse of what they espouse to uphold, they restrict trade rather than free it up.
“maybe we have mediocre education outcomes because we are stupid”
A comparison with our neighbours indicates that it certainly isn’t a lack of money thrown in that direction.
A lot of theories have been tried and found wanting. I thought this book had some interesting ideas for dealing with children living in difficult circumstances.
The trend to use the curriculum as a means of social engineering doesn’t help much either. The leftist indoctrination that often passes for education these days is hardly likely to teach people to think. The smarter kids question and see through it. The slower ones just absorb it without question and become lefties.
Hi Dianne, lovely to see you back!
You must feel you’ve entered an alternate universe, but that is how it is with our friends on the right these days. They don’t have to worry about facts, logic, history or reality, they make up their own and then tell the rest of us that we are living ‘their reality’
mind blowing ain’t it?
””’Certainly, the world has too many humans.””'(ozfenric)
”””’Not true.”””(dumpty)
.
Dumpty FYI, as you know l watch lots`a docos,
some docos have indicated the world population hit 1-billion around 1700, give or take, and before that population increase, was calculated to have been stable at around 200-million, and no more than 300-million. So as a `balance` with nature type thing, we are well beyond previous `natural` population levels.
“……The slower ones just absorb it without question and become lefties………”
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe…………………….
“Free markets unregulated do exactly the inverse of what they espouse to uphold, they restrict trade rather than free it up.”
The idea of a perfect market is a theoretical construct which can never exist in reality. In reality, markets can be more or less free. The participants in a market always act out of self interest rather. That they are all wannabe monopolists should surprise no one.
The need for regulation comes in where imperfections in the market mean that participants can get away with their monopolistic practices. Sometimes regulation means the entrenchment of monopolies such as in the case of IP rights or special rights given to unions.
Regulation should be about ensuring as far as possible the circumstances which limit monopolistic behaviour. Criminalising anti-competitive behaviour at the director level would be a good start.
“You must feel you’ve entered an alternate universe, but that is how it is with our friends on the right these days. They don’t have to worry about facts, logic, history or reality, they make up their own and then tell the rest of us that we are living ‘their reality’”
You mean like this….
sb @ 12:40
I mostly agree with you re the market
Tell me though, why should the market be largely free for companies, but workers need regulation? We are all players in ‘teh market’ whether we want to be or not, so why should it be so one sided – why can’t I [and colleagues] withhold our labour on principle if we so choose? Workers can’t ‘self regulate’, we have to have government imposed regulation which always favours business.
In the lead up to the rudd super profits tax on miners, we had threats of a capital strike and the nation closing down, yet if workers threaten a labour strike they are militant, standover merchants and any effective strike action has been made illegal.
Why one rule for the profiteers and another for the workers who operate in the same market?
exactly reb
that is up there with “too much of the natural forests are locked up” so let’s get the destroyers in!
Reb.. It just gets scarier by the day. What’s next week a soylet green plant @ Manus?
Pynes version of history? Outlawing Solar Power? Tony is certifiable…
“Even Gina lovin’ Toilet seems to have given up on arguing otherwise.”
Errr…no.
It is farcical & deserving of ridicule.
Also, I keep unusual hours; so my absence is in no way an indication of concession.
Tony, declaring his sources & his view ‘Winner!!!’ doesn’t make it so. The majority of people, who have a little historical perspective & don’t fill up their headspace with campaigning US rightwing thinktank generics, can see the HitlerWasALeftist Movement for what it is.
My first instinct is to point towards a few books, but the campaigners get pissy about such advice.
Well the
Tax evaidersFibertarians will tell you that no regulation is required eva.Meanwhile Any Microsoft, Google, Adobe, Apple, Apps…ect that you buy online in Australia attracts no tax whatsoever in Australia because the software transaction is done in Dublin, despite the software attracting an Australian Tax deduction… Free market tax evasion.. Free my ass.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/gina-rinehart-hits-out-at-welfare-recipients-and-politicans-she-accuses-of-dragging-australia-into-debt/story-fnkgdg1h-1226847505117
Hollow advice from the Queen of Inherited Wealth.
‘we are well beyond previous `natural` population levels.’
History has shown that during times of relative warmth the human population gets a spurt-on and then a modest cooling sees stagnation. So natural factors will determine the carrying capacity of our space ship.
Also, developing a prosperous middle class worldwide, along with family planning, should stunt growth.
My first instinct is to point towards a few books, but the campaigners get pissy about such advice.
yeah, because it is their ‘gut feeling’, their opinion that counts, not your book learnin’. besides those books are authored by ‘academic elites’ who have no idea about the ‘real world’ that only conservatives know deep in their guts.
Pynes version of history? Outlawing Solar Power? Tony is certifiable…
you’re close ricky, only today I heard on the news that the qld govt is going to stop solar rebates for people. They are planning to have them ‘negotiate terms’ with individual power companies!
It’s obvious that they don’t like it now that people are taking up solar [and the rebates] rather than pay huge electricity bills and the power companies and govt. are losing revenue. now they want to change the rules to ensure the profiteering [and pollution] continues.
Free market tax evasion.. Free my ass.
never mind the geoblocking where australians pay more than americans for the same product, completely defying the whole globalisation theory.
””’Abbott just said Virgin has 140 planes.””’
””’They have 94.””’
Mr-Eleventy must have `counted` them.
“…….why should the market be largely free for companies, but workers need regulation?”
I wholeheartedly agree KL……………!
Lets get rid of Awards and penalty rates……………………LOL
”””””””geoblocking where australians pay more than americans for the same product, completely defying the whole globalisation theory.””””””
bittorrent
”””So natural factors will determine the carrying capacity of our space ship.””’
` 😆 All Aboard.
Hollow advice from the Queen of Inherited Wealth.
the richest woman in the world hates welfare recipients, those who have not had the advantage of inheriting an empire, good health with no disability, private swiss schooling, influential parentage and a guaranteed future of grand wealth and power to control government policy.
Talk about living in an alternate universe, time to get off the truck with megaphone and into the old age homes, the houses of the poor and needy and the soup kitchens.
Also, developing a prosperous middle class worldwide, along with family planning, should stunt growth.
that might work if the busybody religious weren’t so busy interfering in female reproductive choices and demanding aid money be linked to NO abortion or contraceptive choices.
‘All Aboard.’
The natural solution is that Earthians will overcome inertia and fill up the universe.
#earthians lol
sorry to rain on`ya parade, e=mc2 we won`t be leaving the planet in any meaningful way
‘that might work if …’
I agree, there are huge hurdles to jump and putting a sword through the heart of the deity is a good place to start. So many inhumane cultural habits stem from religious nonsense.
Its up to the antichrist to tell Earthians we are not alone and that should bring an end to this archaic belief system.
I wholeheartedly agree KL……………!
Lets get rid of Awards and penalty rates……………………LOL
happy with that, as long as there is a big increase in wages to cover loss of penalties, as long as I can go into all business and govt enterprise eg bank, govt agency, local council and every business on weekends. As long as tradies, accountants etc all work on weekends without call out fees or penalty imposed. Make it equal for everyone where everything is open on weekends. And as long as hospitality workers have a choice in work hours and not asked to perform split shifts etc
‘sorry to rain on`ya parade, e=mc2 we won`t be leaving the planet in any meaningful way’
Strongly disagree, the ‘god particle’ should see us free and clear.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/movies/particle-fever-tells-of-search-for-the-higgs-boson.html?_r=0
Hello Armchair.
Some of the gentlemen who gather here are men of deep faith aren’t they? They are True Believers. Opposing facts only strengthen their conviction.
”””””””””””””””’
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-06/green-railing-against-a-left-that-no-longer-exists/5300948
”””””””””””””””’
armchair, most of what green wrote about `teh-left` l reckon apply`s to `conservatives` of the same era, both sides are now pretty direction-less, selling-off and selling-out and `truly` representing nothing.
stick`ya dogs particle where the sun don`t shine
#mumbo-jumbo-for-latte-intellectuals
‘stick`ya dogs particle where the sun don`t shine’
They are spending an awful lot of money on something they can’t see and based only on a theory. Einstein would have been impressed.
“Tell me though, why should the market be largely free for companies, but workers need regulation?”
That is not what I said. In particular I said that anti-competitive behaviour should be criminalised at the director level. That would see the directors of Coles and Woolies (among many others) in jail within a week.
My main plea was for regulation which would allow the market to function. In the case of workers that would be trying to give them enough power to bargain collectively, but not so much that they become extortionists. It would need to be backed up with legislation (which we have) setting minimum standards of pay, overtime and health and safety. Obviously it should stop some way short of permitting <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/national/public-service/mentally-damaged-public-servants-win-in-battle-for-workers-compensation-20140304-341jl.html#ixzz2v2T0ilVl"<this sort of nonsense.
I would encourage the Greens to have the courage of their convictions and solve their fear of overpopulation by taking advantage of their policy on euthanasia.
Lets get rid of Awards and penalty rates……………………LOL (leech out loud)
What are you a fucking fascist or something? 🙄 Awards?
Yeah thats right get rid of the last line of defence for workers? why stop there deadshit, DSP’s, the dole… Medicare , the PBS… Lets go backwards shall we.. thats what this government wants… regression to recession.
What a horrid thing to say, fucking disgraceful. 😦
You teabagging dry root goose steppers are lightning fast to fly that fibaterion bullshit and pay out on the Commo’s in oppressive Korea. Then in the same breath you adopt their doctrine of oppression… fuck me teabaggers are a confused lot…bring the dissolution on….. 🙄 Hitler was a Commo…thats piss funny…he would have been right at home in the tea bag jerk circle.
Splatter the ACCC never seems t prosecute anyone… Woolies and Coles run ruff shot over everyone, farmers, consumers suppliers.. What a bout petrol companies and the Friday lottery..Oh its linked to OPEC..who just happen to know when its a public holiday or weekend in Australia… What a Joke.
what about Wollies and The AHA trying to stop ALDI selling grog? pathetic …
“…happy with that, as long as there is a big increase in wages to cover loss of penalties,…”
KL it was you that said you did not wish workers to be subject to regulation so I would be setting you freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee……………………to negotiate your hourly rates just like I do.
Let the Market rip Kitty………………….and the truth will set you freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !
Oh……………..and welcome to the Dark Side……Finally…….:)
Gina’s got stuff commin out of her Gigantic big Hole again…
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/gina-rinehart-hits-out-at-welfare-recipients-and-the-left-for-dragging-australia-into-debt/story-fni0cx12-1226847448435
“Hollow advice from the Queen of Inherited Wealth.”
So the right to Freedom of Speech is now subject to Leftie Means Testing is it ?
Otherwise what is so “Hollow” about it ?
Completely agree Ricky.
‘Woolies and Coles run ruff shot over everyone, farmers, consumers suppliers..’
The duopoly has a bad reputation and well deserved, but all that is set to change as they move into agribusiness.
‘AUSVEG, the National Peak Industry body representing Australian vegetable and potato growers, has welcomed an initiative rolled out on Australia Day by supermarket giant Coles to replace all of its Smart Buy frozen vegetables with 100 per cent Australian grown vegetables and potatoes.
‘The agreement comes in the form of a five-year contract that the retailer has inked with Simplot, who operate vegetable processing operations in Devonport in Tasmania and Bathurst, and will mean that more than 240 growers will be growing an additional 2.7 million kilograms of vegetables and potatoes.’
“…………..what about Wollies and The AHA trying to stop ALDI selling grog? pathetic ”
That’s interesting………….hadn’t heard that.
Costco sells booze and I do mean the same stuff you’d find in Dan Murphy’s and Liquorland. Not like Aldi which I think is just their private label stuff isnt it ?
One reason I dont hold Woollies shares is I just cant se where they will continue to get the growth in earnings in the future which is neded to keep the share price heading upowards.
They (Woolies and Coles) will really have a problem once Costco gets its momentum running full speed. Talk is in Sydney that there will definitely be a new Costco warehouse in the Shire (Taren Point) later this year (they are basically like gigantic Ikea flat packs) plus another in Hornsby area.
“Otherwise what is so “Hollow” about it ?”
Gina lectures about ‘hard work’. By the looks of her, she barely gets up out of a chair, let alone indulges in hard work.
I think it’s fair to say that most of us didn’t inherit multi-millions from our Daddy. Being born into gross wealth isn’t ‘hard work’.
She’s free to say whatever she likes. Let’s face it, if she wasn’t grossly wealthy she wouldn’t even have a platform to lecture from.
Her lectures are hollow because she’s the last person with any credibility to be condemning others for being ‘idle’.
Her lectures are also hollow because she’s the last person with any credibility to be condemning workers for being greedy, as she loot her kids trust fund.
With her arguments, l was going to include `straw-woman` in the comment, but she is more like a sack of shit.
Friday Funny
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/internet-argument-resolved-2014030584268
I haven’t read what Gina said, but I agree with whatever it was.
‘‘We all have a role to play in mitigating the thinking that’s not helping our future,’’ the billionaire added.
‘‘The left don’t want to address the issue. Instead they get hysterical and personal about who speaks out.’’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/mark-latham-returns-fire-at-gina-rineharts-living-beyond-our-means-comment-20140307-34ar9.html#ixzz2vGKc1iZs
A fellow named Palmersaurus is performing at the kaf and getting laughs.
Some old Jewish guy singing …
Rough Justice
‘DERRYN Hinch was on the same prison floor as Jill Meagher’s killer while he served a sentence for breaching a suppression order about the man.’
AAP
…I’m trying to get as far away from myself as I can.
Bob Dylan
‘Certainly, the world has too many humans.’ (ozfenric)
‘On Margaret and David’s rating system, the Abbott government will deserve five stars if it finally ends decades of dithering and approves a new Sydney airport at Badgerys Creek.’
Taylor / Guardian
Yes Gina, good thinking, let’s do a thatcher and close down mines 🙂
What a fab bit of film Egg.
I am sure you are thinking what I am thinking, that the earth is not in danger from climate change. WE are.
Nature will survive alright. It always does.
I wonder which form of life will replace us?
Probably something boring like slippery plankton but I would like to believe that pigeons might have their turn at running the show, or feral tabbies, the frilled neck lizard or the Tasmanian devil, the last three being my favourite creatures.
I nominate the silly old pigeon though. They seem very resilient.
‘What a fab bit of film Egg.’
Both vids are uplifting.
‘pigeons might have their turn at running the show’
Flying rats, phooey.
‘I wonder which form of life will replace us?’
Humanity is supreme and we’ll conquer the tyranny of distance, glorified apes no less.
”””’I haven’t read what Gina said, but I agree with whatever it was.””””
Haha scales`osy, l bet you did the same with a certain `pamphlet` not so long ago. 🙂
That’s cute…and ironic, because when Gina gets up on the pile of money which is her soapbox she is indeed preaching to the choir; and alienating ‘common’ people.
‘…and alienating ‘common’ people.’
Ahhh…. not really. Do you have a link?
Don’t be a fucking dense lickspittle.
I suppose you have a link to non-billionaires cheering Gina’s social commentary in the streets?
No…I thought not.
More cute…
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/08/santos-fined-coal-seam-gas-contaminates-aquifer-uranium
I’m sure a $1500 slap on the wrist will make SANTOS extra careful with regard to polluting the aquifer. 🙄
‘fucking dense lickspittle.’
Nice choice of words, but they have no relation to me.
‘I suppose you have a link to non-billionaires cheering Gina’s social commentary in the streets?’
No need. Most ordinary folk accept that we live in a mixed economy and they are not upset by her outlandish wealth, seeing her comments as simply personal opinion.
That’s not the impression that I got from reading the comments on newspaper blogs, the vast majority of commenters find her opinion to be offensive in the extreme and remind us that thatcher is still hated in the UK for the harm done to the country.
you’ve gotta think there’s something wrong with ordinary people, those hangers on who cheer and grovel for the rich and powerful. These ‘useful idiots’ of billionaires hanker for a penny to be thrown their way and are happy to lie, cheat and steal on behalf of the master, working against the best interests of ordinary people.
‘you’ve gotta think there’s something wrong with ordinary people’
The masses here and in China accept that free enterprise is the only way forward, the five year plan is history. You may not have noticed that the revolutionary cadre are already flooding into the country. (I cannot supply a link)
‘These ‘useful idiots’ of billionaires’
Colourful words, but the electorate at large don’t begrudge her.
…but the electorate at large don’t begrudge her…
you know this how?
the majority of the public wanted the super profits tax, it was the cowardly government that caved in to the threats and blackmail of the billionaires.
‘you know this how?’
Consider it a gut feeling and unless there is evidence to the contrary I’ll stay with it. What we need is a poll to settle the matter.
I’ll take that to mean that you are bullshitting as usual. Your ‘gut feelings’ are well known to be way off the mark and represent no-one but yourself.
Most Australians think multinational mining companies don’t pay enough tax, only one in 10 Australians thinks mining is over-regulated, and many people think miners have more influence than the environment movement.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/big-miners-in-firing-line-over-tax-payments-20140115-30va9.html#ixzz2vMPsywbS
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/big-miners-in-firing-line-over-tax-payments-20140115-30va9.html
Here in Melbourne it is the ‘Labour Day’ long weekend.
Some holiday-
*On shore wind, therefore poor surf
*Bought a book that I’ve already read
…but an acceptable red with take away pizza!
‘I’ll take that to mean that you are bullshitting as usual.’
I could be wrong, but I don’t sense the masses are clamouring for a Communist revolution. Perhaps the lumpen proletariat are just stoopid and brainwashed, but don’t let that deter you from your revolutionary zeal.
‘Your ‘gut feelings’ are well known to be way off the mark and represent no-one but yourself.’
‘Along with the constantly diminishing number of the magnates of capital, who usurp and monopolise all advantages of this process of transformation, grows the mass of misery, oppression, slavery, degradation, exploitation; but with this too grows the revolt of the working class, a class always increasing in numbers, and disciplined, united, organised by the very mechanism of the process of capitalist production.
‘The monopoly of capital becomes a fetter upon the mode of production, which has sprung up and flourished along with, and under it. Centralisation of the means of production and socialisation of labour at last reach a point where they become incompatible with their capitalist integument. This integument is burst asunder. The knell of capitalist private property sounds. The expropriators are expropriated.
Karl Marx (Capital, Vol. I, pp.836-7, Kerr Edition.)
‘That’s not the impression that I got from reading the comments on newspaper blogs,’
Fairfax, aunty and the Guardian, you should get out more and gain a balanced view.
Brilliant strategy, revolutionary.
‘THE Abbott government is proposing the most radical and far-reaching changes to Aboriginal housing, with a plan to move indigenous people who send their children to school forward in waiting lists.
‘The changes would also enable Aboriginal people who get jobs away from remote communities to transfer their social housing and home ownership entitlements.’
Karvelas / Oz
‘and many people think miners have more influence than the environment movement.’
They do, because the quarry pays, while the environmental movement generally does the opposite for no good reason.
*yawn*
Do you really think the ‘lefty=communism’ rubbish is even relevant today?
Just a tired old meme produced by those who have no valid or even rational argument on the issues. You’re just sounding more and more tired and punch drunk from flailing away at shadows.
‘The expropriators are expropriated.’
Surely that is your meme.
Is Meme the new ‘ubiquitous’ or ‘peripatetic’.
Where did it come from? It is everywhere.
Today is the first time I have used it. A Mementous Moment.
What this country needs is a ‘pink revolution’, along the lines of the South American model.
http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/sarah-palins-advice-to-barack-obama-stop-putin-with-nukes/story-fnh81jut-1226849448434
I bet she buys shares in the HitlerWasALeftist Movement too.
US conservative meme-generators are a caricature of themselves.
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http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/sarah-palins-advice-to-barack-obama-stop-putin-with-nukes/story-fnh81jut-1226849448434
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lt`s good to know Limited-News is not allowing itself to be used by cranks as a soap-box.
On the upside, Tina Fey is back in business.
”””””Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.””””’
Goodies verses Baddies. Mr-Rabbit is very influential now`a`days.
Fcuk l Laughed hard at this,
http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/sarah-palins-advice-to-barack-obama-stop-putin-with-nukes/story-fnh81jut-1226849448434
Thanks dunny, great find.
About now Barrack is inquiring if Vlad wants want their old colony of Alaska back, might make a nice nukie test area.
While flipping thru TV channels earlier, l paused on boltreportland for a few minutes. The teabags were frothing over Obama/Kerry and the Ukraine/Crimea. l thought to myself, what a load of shit, teh-yanks couldn`t give a fcuk about Ukraine/Crimea, and continued to flip thru channels as my eyes started glazing over.
lt looks like, to me anyway, this weeks teabag squawk-points will be along the lines of, Let`s use Russia and the Ukraine/Crimea topic as an excuse to use our `war-toys`.
US rightwing fucktards never miss an opportunity to turn any foreign policy happenings into an attack on Obama.
Bolt is a subsidiary cockstroker who attempts to extrapolate their (irrelevant) dross into the Australian conservatard headspace.
“My view is the arrival of the internet, and the additional diversity and avenues for competition that it brings, really says we should have less regulation and more freedom,” Mr Turnbull said yesterday on Sky News’s Australian Agenda.
‘Malcolm Turnbull has moved to calm regional MPs’ fears about reforming media laws, saying any overhaul of ownership rules would provide “a good opportunity” to strengthen local content rules.
‘The Communications Minister has risked a regional backlash by backing controversial changes that would clear the way for a sweeping consolidation between city and country television networks.’
Owens / Oz
Troy Buswell quits as WA treasurer after mysterious car crash. It’s unclear whether he was sniffing the passenger’s seat at the time of the accident.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/troy-buswell-suffers-mental-breakdown-after-drunken-crash-quits-cabinet/story-fnhocxo3-1226850029901
The west-coast teabags are a lot of fun, scales`osy.
For some reason, WordPress hasn’t let me post retorts on the Let’s Bomb Russia thread for the last two days (?????????)…so, I’ll put it here…
Vladimir is indeed ‘The Real Deal’.
Glad as fuck that I don’t have to live under his stranglehold on power.
US politicians who ascend to the same heights as Putin do so with the backing of corporate wealth, PR machinery & ideological thinktanking. None of them came up through the KGB.
They are definitely cheap imitations of ‘strong
tyrantsleaders’.US Hawks are only playing to their base. The type of people easily impressed by sabre rattling & numbskull nuclear platitudes from the likes of Sarah Palin & Co.
Unlike the US, you’ll rarely see China or Russia invading or occupying beyond their immediate borders…& I’m supposed to yearn for Uncle Sam’s role as World Police in perpetuity; GMAFB! 🙄
‘Abbott has signalled a cautious approach to changing media ownership laws, saying he is “not interested in picking unnecessary fights” or pitting rival broadcasters against each other.’
Owens / Oz
Ya`got on the russia thread dunny.
No its Rostrum.
Greetings from Siem Reap.
Just completed our first (7 days lower) Mekong river cruise Angkor Wat at sunrise tomorrow … and off to Laos for our next (5 days upper) Mekong cruise.
As expected internet is sporadic to nil and slow as hell.
I see everyone is partying as usual …
Local wine is awful and the price of imported would make the Robber Barons blush …. spirits are a bit better and beer is fine (but I have a limited attention span when it come to beer!). Food is as I expected and I’m not a fan of vegetables nor seasfood … but I’m surviving ..
Couple of VN Vets onboard — both ex-captains in VN in 1970/71 (when I served as a Nasho) … had a lot of fun with them .. and they were full of praise for the nashos that worked with/for them .
Halong Bay was fogged out when we went out … and they have painted all the junks WHITE ’cause the local mayor went to Greece and thought would look nicer white in VN … dumb shite … its also very difficult to see other white ships in the fkn fog!
If this ever arrives will pop in when I can … nets just to slow to get into discussion …
Keep up the slander – back end of the month …
‘you’ll rarely see China or Russia invading or occupying beyond their immediate borders…’
China is now under new management and will takeover countries commercially, in addition to ongoing migration they could be running the world in fifty years.
Afghanistan was the last hurrah of Russian adventurism.
Greetings TB.
‘SPC Ardmona has landed a company-changing $70 million contract with Woolworths just weeks after warnings the federal government’s decision to deny the troubled fruit and tomato processor a $25m bailout could force it to close and cost hundreds of jobs.
‘SPC, a subsidiary of the stockmarket-listed Coca-Cola Amatil, said yesterday the failure to land the government investment had actually worked in its favour, with the company buoyed by new-found consumer enthusiasm for its products.’
Neales / Oz
‘BILL Shorten and the Labor Party have gone backwards in public support during the two weeks when 5000 job losses at Qantas and the Coalition’s refusal to grant the national carrier a debt guarantee dominated politics.
‘Overall voter satisfaction with the Opposition Leader is at its lowest since he was elected as Labor leader last October and primary vote support for the ALP has dropped back to its equal lowest since the beginning of last November.’
Shannahan / Oz
So it looks like the LNP were right afterall in not giving SPC $25M.
Where are the Lefties who argued about “lost jobs” now ?
‘Where are the Lefties who argued about “lost jobs” now ?’
They have egg on their face.
“BILL Shorten and the Labor Party have gone backwards in public support……”
Just wait for the Royal Commission Egg,
It will be a slowly unfolding disaster for Bill Short-Term and the ALP from what I’ve heard around the traps in the last few weeks.
He certainly wont be Leader by Christmas
Very very dark days for the ALP are coming
Labor’s deputy is my pick to take Bill’s place.
“They have egg on their face.”
Were you squatting or did you just spray it on?
“Labor’s deputy is my pick to take Bill’s place.”
I’m getting my “Fuck Tania Pliberserk” T-shirt printed in anticipation.
“He certainly wont be Leader by Christmas”
I hope he remains leader. The Coalition has a chance of winning the next election with Shorten as leader.
I understand the many Greens supporters who say they would leave Australia if Abbott won the election.
After the last six years i don’t think i could stand another ALP govt for a long time.
‘I’m getting my “Fuck Tania Pliberserk” T-shirt printed in anticipation.’
** chuckle **
‘After the last six years i don’t think i could stand another ALP govt for a long time.’
Rest easy, there’s little likelihood of that happening for at least a decade.
Not quite my preference, I’d vote-
1. Hawke
2. Keating
3. Whitlam
4. Howard & Rudd
I think Hawke energised the ALP and showed a willingness for reform. Keating was entertaining and had a hunger for retribution and change.
Whitlam shook off a generation of malaise in foreign policy and education, though he didn’t give any thought to economics.
Howard had longevity, and I think the ALP (and the country) would have been far better off by sticking with Rudd.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/howard-rates-as-our-best-pm-of-the-past-four-decades/story-fn59niix-1226849689572#
“In sixth and seventh place, respectively, were Julia Gillard (4 per cent) and Malcolm Fraser (3 per cent).”
So what happened to that Grub Julia’s massive female fanclub if the best she could get was 4% which means she was a measerly 4% above the complete non-rater Billy McMahon.
Wow what an achievement you red headed fuckwit………..
She’s not even a real red head.
EVEN HER HAIR IS A LIE!!!!
#JULIAR.
full post, save`ya fcukin`about with p`wall, (fcuk`yomm)
Hawke then Keating.
Forget the rest.
””””””””JOHN Howard has been named Australia’s best prime minister of the past 40 years,”””””””
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””””””””The poll,”””””””
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”””””””””””’conducted last week by Essential Research and provided exclusively to The Australian,”””””””
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it seems to check all the boxes for providing dumbed down nonsense to their lock-step audience, and yomm, this type of poll based `opinion` junk won`t make anybody more informed,
very shrewd of Rupert
””””””””So it looks like the LNP were right afterall in not giving SPC $25M.”””””””””
Yeah Blubbers, which is nice for a change.
Mr-Rabbit was correct, but let`s not get ahead of our-selves, the State-Based teabags folded faster than a house of cards and gave bludging`Coke/spc $22-million.
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””””’Where are the Lefties”””””
Yes, where are the Lefty`s, l suspect yomm is trying to organise them into supporting corporate-welfare for bludging`Qantas
Agree with ToM! & sb …
So much for opinion polls (i wonder how many polled actually voted during H/K era anyway.
“Hawke then Keating.”
Why?? What did they do?? The main thing lefties say is that Hawke/Keating reformed the economy allowing Howard to get the benefit and all the good economic numbers and therefore most of the credit.
But that is unprovable.
She’s a miserly, miserable woman, whose only comfort comes from greed and avarice. She could have been a force for good, instead she is a small minded, bigoted, ignorant and self serving caricature. Her rhetoric is straight out of the loony teabagger handbook. Her extreme wealth allows her to have a disproportionate influence in our polical system. Want to be heard? Just buy shares in media and a franchised megaphone like the bolter to spruik for you.
No merit in Rinehart’s welfare whinge:
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/3/11/economy/no-merit-rineharts-welfare-whinge
…First, although the number of welfare recipients has increased over the past decade, the share of the population on welfare has actually declined. In 2002, 24.9 per cent of the population received some form of welfare payments compared with only 22.1 per cent in 2012. Welfare was actually a greater problem for the Howard Government and not a socialist issue, as Rinehart inaccurately believes…
…Rinehart has no public policy experience beyond lobbying and rent-seeking. She is a businesswoman but not an economist nor an expert on politics or political economy. She has no expertise on social issues or social work or psychology. She is neither a lawyer nor a tax expert…
…Rinehart’s views on the economy — tax cuts, lower spending and wage cuts — share an uncomfortable cohesion with her denial of climate change. They are a thinly veiled attempt to make herself richer at the expense of other Australians…
Gina Rinehart and the reality of entitlement:
http://kevinprice.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/gina-rineharts-misplaced-reality.html
‘Why?? What did they do??’
Keating floated the dollar, which in hindsight took courage. Here’s a waltz down memory lane by Peter Brent.
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/mumble/index.php/theaustralian/comments/dollar_float_and_the_keating_myth/P25/
‘Rinehart’s views on the economy — tax cuts, lower spending and wage cuts — share an uncomfortable cohesion with her denial of climate change.’
Care to step out the back and say that?
gina`s a teabag armchair, of the `palin` kind, and by default, has no merit
You two have a nasty case of ‘tall poppy syndrome’ and suggest you seek professional help.
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Doug Duke, Tue, 2014-03-11 08:22
Why do we continue giving credence to any comment made by Gina Rinehart – a clearly over-spoilt, silly rich kid living on wealth she neither earned nor deserves ? The most telling comment on any contribution possible from her was made by her father (aka. “provider of fortune”) at the end of his life, who named her a “… slothful, vindictive and devious baby elephant …”.
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http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/3/11/economy/no-merit-rineharts-welfare-whinge
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l reckon this comment is good too armchair 🙂
Hawke/Keating came after the childish irresponsibility of the Whitlam government and the hideous big-government conservatism of Fraser. Their economic and labour market reforms resurrected a failing economy and made Australia attractive for foreign investment.
The left hated Hawke. There was a song of the time called “The New Politics of Bob Hawke” suggesting he had deserted his working class constituency. In fact he made Australia a better place for all Australians.
””””suggest you seek professional help.”””’
suggest you start worrying if mr-rabbit starts taking gina`s advice on pensions
I really don’t get the bile directed at Gina. A lot of it is clearly delusional. As I understand it she massively increased whatever wealth she inherited (probably around $70m although Lang’s estate was said to be effectively bankrupt) many, many times over after fighting a long war with Lang’s avaricious nurse/mistress.
To her credit she tried to get her kids to get off their arses and work, which is a parental duty rather than some sort of crime.
Maybe the venom would be better spent on real crooks like Thomson and the ALP who funded his legals long after they should have known he was a crook.
It gets louder…the sound of jackboots
http://m.theage.com.au/victoria/moveon-bill-likely-to-become-law-20140308-34ed5.html
…New laws designed to move on protesters, which the Napthine government admits will limit free speech and the right to peaceful protest, are set to pass State Parliament this week…
You two have a nasty case of ‘tall poppy syndrome’ and suggest you seek professional help.
You have to be joking! I know needs “professional help”!
Gina thought she could use nuclear weapons to extract iron ore!
Maybe the venom would be better spent on real crooks like Thomson and the ALP who funded his legals long after they should have known he was a crook
Gina is a dopey Robber Baron* who wants to rob the poor to get even richer … .Thomson is a petty thief … in comarison …
* unusual – most of them are cunning cnuts …
‘suggest you start worrying if mr-rabbit starts taking gina`s advice on pensions’
The monk is a revolutionary leader, so I wouldn’t be surprised. There’s a welfare subculture and we need to discuss what to do about it.
Hello TB, have you tried the lovely DALAT red wine in Vietnam?
‘Gina is a dopey Robber Baron* who wants to rob the poor to get even richer …’
The lady has no particular interest in becoming richer for the sake of it, her heart is in ANDEV.
there is nothing so sweet as the sound of pinko`s beneath jackboots, and their trampling to protect the trough-snouting class
As I understand it
I think you understand wrongly
she massively increased whatever wealth she inherited (probably around $70m although Lang’s estate was said to be effectively bankrupt) many, many times over after fighting a long war with Lang’s avaricious nurse/mistress.
To her credit she tried to get her kids to get off their arses and work, which is a parental duty rather than some sort of crime.
She had more than enough for one person and went on to try and ripoff the kids rightful inheritance from their grandfather, his wishes and will were clear. She will vindictively try to destroy anyone and anything that gets in the way of her getting the whole lot, even her own children are treated as enemies. Rose porteous was lang’s legal wife and perhaps lang quite liked her, gina hated her so of course had to try and destroy her rather than let her father’s wishes be honoured. Her own overwhelming sense of selfish entitlement is insatiable.
She hardly amassed her fortune on her own sb, that is where your ideology takes over the brain. She inherited wealth and has created more with the assistance of lots of government largesse and rentseeking.
http://kevinprice.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/gina-rineharts-misplaced-reality.html
…The point is, there is no such thing as a ‘self made man’. Every successful businessman or entrepreneur has used the not inconsiderable Australian infrastructure, built by our collective fathers, paid for by the taxpayers, to make his money. Every one. Not one successfully rich businessman made his money alone – not Rupert Murdoch, Not Kerry Packer, certainly not Lang Hancock – he did it with the assistance of the taxpayer-built infrastructure, getting rich on what others did before and alongside him….
In defence of Gina, the lady has 20/20 vision.
http://www.andev-project.org/about-us/why-develop-the-north/
Hello TB, nice to hear from our roving reporter!
I couldn’t quite make it out from your post…are you enjoying yourself? 😉
“I couldn’t quite make it out from your post…are you enjoying yourself?
Oh you know what “seniors” are like KL, especially pommie ones, they’ll always find something to complain about…..
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there is no such thing as a ‘self made man’. Every successful businessman or entrepreneur has used the not inconsiderable Australian infrastructure, built by our collective fathers, paid for by the taxpayers, to make his money. Every one. Not one successfully rich businessman made his money alone – not Rupert Murdoch, Not Kerry Packer, certainly not Lang Hancock – he did it with the assistance of the taxpayer-built infrastructure, getting rich on what others did before
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that sums up well a lot of what l screech about, l would only add that very few, (if any) created their `mega`wealth without `welfare` of some type, either indirect tax`loop-holes, or directly by rigged Govt contract gouging
billy bragg:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/11/gina-rinehart-like-margaret-thatcher-before-her-seeks-to-divide-and-conquer
…Not content with being the richest person in Australia, the mining magnate seeks to create division between her fellow citizens and the most vulnerable in society…
…the basic story remains the same: a rich man, a worker and a poor man are sitting around a table. On the table are 12 biscuits. The rich man takes 11 of the biscuits, and says to the worker: “that poor man wants your biscuit.”…
“The point is, there is no such thing as a ‘self made man’. Every successful businessman or entrepreneur has used the not inconsiderable Australian infrastructure, built by our collective fathers, paid for by the taxpayers, to make his money. Every one.”
From Kevin Price’s blog: “Musings of a writer, teacher of story craft, editor of children’s work.” Pity the poor children.
That statement is precisely why I detest the left. That fool has no fucking clue and not a brain cell to bless himself with.
A better way of putting it is that all that the government spends is generated by private enterprise. Without that there is no government welfare, nothing. Not even grants for creative writers and teachers of story craft like Kevin.
“I really don’t get the bile directed at Gina. A lot of it is clearly delusional. ”
I think the links above illustrate the credence of the venom particularly well.
The quote below sums up the situation quite well, imho.
“Why do we continue giving credence to any comment made by Gina Rinehart – a clearly over-spoilt, silly rich kid living on wealth she neither earned nor deserves ? The most telling comment on any contribution possible from her was made by her father (aka. “provider of fortune”) at the end of his life, who named her a “… slothful, vindictive and devious baby elephant …”.”
Gina has no street cred to be lecturing others on work ethic.
Hello TB, have you tried the lovely DALAT red wine in Vietnam?
Oh yes! And no its not!
Having a bit6 of quiet time in the Siem Reap Sofitel – the fkn bed is wider than my bedromm at home!
Angor Wat this morn at sunrise (4:30 rise!)
THe Minister is off delivering “goodies” to an orphanage … I’m literally “poored out” after seeing so much poverty in two countries – I suspect Laos will be the poorest fro some reason …
Arguing about Gina and Thomson actually seems a bit silly here ……….
Oh, I did go and see Uncle Ho Chi Min resting in state at the mausaleum(????)
“In defence of Gina, the lady has 20/20 vision.”
No, she just exhibits rockshifter fantasies which are primarily directed towards further maximising her gross wealth.
To see that as either ‘visionary’ or ‘selfless’ is to be easily had.
“Rose porteous was lang’s legal wife and perhaps lang quite liked her”
Lang took out a restraining order against her in the last weeks of his life as she harassed him to change his will. She married Lang’s mate three months after he croaked.
I couldn’t quite make it out from your post…are you enjoying yourself?
G’day, KL … yes I am! As I said above the poverty is breathtaking here and “stuff” and services so cheap … gifting money is frowned upon … and you just want to give as much as you can … and these folk ARE our real neighbours … not the EU and the states … Australia could become the hero of indochina if it was smart!
We love the tuk tuks – should get rid of the stupid Newman bikes in Brisbane CBD and introduce tuk tuks! And the driving skills of the locals on motorbikes is magic to watch!
I hope you are enjoying your trip, TB. Don’t worry about the petty arguments here. They will still be going on when you come back.
Yeah, sb, true Rose was a nasty piece of work … almost like her stepdaughter … both tainted by money and visions of personal grandeur …
“And the driving skills of the locals on motorbikes is magic to watch!”
Often passengers burn their legs on the exhaust pipe – a Saigon tattoo, according to my daughter who got one.
Enjoy the cultural stepchange, TB…& beware the plane you board for home. 😯
She married Lang’s mate three months after he croaked.
I still say she deserved every penny, putting up with lang hancock for years never mind a 10 year legal battle with his selfish little bint of a daughter.
LOL! @ ya sb!
oH, for those who know my background I was asked to perform after dinner one night on the RV Amalotus … said I would do a couple of numbers and ended up working for two hours! Very flattering … couldn’t get away! (as if I wanted to!) 😉
Captive audience I suppose!
Hancock was managing Mulga Downs station in November 1952 and at the end of the season he was flying to Perth in their light plane when they had to detour because of bad weather.
‘Forced to fly lower than usual because of the clouds, the small plane had to be flown down through a gorge. Lang noticed what he thought could be iron ore deposits and kept it in mind until he had the chance to return for a better look. He assumed that the ore must be low grade as no-one had reported its existence even though surveys had been done in the region. When he flew over the area again he saw that it continued for so many miles that it must have some commercial value. He took samples over 50 miles and sent them to Perth for analysis. They turned out to be 2% higher than the then standard blast furnace feed of the United States of America.
‘At the time there was an embargo on the export of iron ore as the Federal Government’s position was that Australia had insufficient reserves of iron ore. Lang’s find was technically worthless. He had been involved in prospecting and small mining ventures since 1938, and Lang knew that at some future date the iron ore would be worth millions, but only if able to be pegged, developed and exported. Lang Hancock lobbied strongly for the law to change.’
He was a self made man.
Enjoy the cultural stepchange, TB…& beware the plane you board for home.
Noice, mate! 🙂
However I could let you know what happened to 370 … but The Mothership has strict control protocols mrgreen
Enjoy the cultural stepchange, TB…& beware the plane you board for home. 😯
😆
“He was a self made man.”
Pretty sure that the geological timescale is responsible for the Iron Ore deposit, not Lang Fucking Hancock; but especially not Jabba The RhineHutt.
““Why do we continue giving credence to any comment made by Gina Rinehart – a clearly over-spoilt, silly rich kid living on wealth she neither earned nor deserves ?”
I don’t get the venom against Gina either.
If the lefties continually did not bring up her name I don’t think i would know she exists.
But i have never been able to work out what drives a leftie mad.
“Jabba The RhineHutt.” 🙂
“But i have never been able to work out what drives a leftie mad.”
Common sense will do it.
””I could let you know what happened to 370””
We already know it has something to do with Joyce`s Discount Maintenance opening in Asia 🙂
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”””””these folk ARE our real neighbours … not the EU and the states … Australia could become the hero of indochina if it was smart!”””””’
Fully Agree TB, but instead we have dumb and dumber competing on `who-can-be-the-nastiest-racist`
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happy trails to you and mrs-TB, enjoy ya`trip 🙂
Ta … Tbag …
internets going wobbly agin …
“If the lefties continually did not bring up her name I don’t think i would know she exists.”
Duuuuuuuh, Neil…maybe it was the fact that she got plastered all over the national media this week with her socio-political commentary & spoutings off about ‘Teh Left’ & ‘Teh Socialists’?
I doubt that ‘Teh Left’ would give her any form of succour if she didn’t inject herself disproportionately into the public debate.
She should be called on her bullshit. She is an IPA promulgator & an insult to anyone who actually does, or has, worked ‘hard’.
Pretty sure that the geological timescale is responsible for the Iron Ore deposit, not Lang Fucking Hancock; but especially not Jabba The RhineHutt.
😆 😆 😆 😆
stop it, you’re making my sides split!
everyone knows that the doglord created all that ‘mother nature’ stuff so the boys can play with their tonka trucks 😉
Less than a month until S4, TB.
“– a clearly over-spoilt, silly rich kid living on wealth she neither earned nor deserves ?”
So what?? No other people like that on this planet??
She only has to open her mouth to make a leftie start going into convulsions. Same goes for Howard, Abbott et al
And lefties if you inherited $70M would you give it away??
Miss the point much, Neil? 🙄
It’s her attempt to disparately influence public policy, only afforded her by her wealth, and her insinuations that others don’t ‘work hard’ enough (contrasted against her unmistakable sedentary self & Daddy’s Inheritance) which rubs people the wrong way; not just leftists, I might add.
“And lefties if you inherited $70M would you give it away??”
Hmmmm, who said she should do that? Not me.
I think it’s more the fact that she was gifted the wealth…ie. never had to work ‘hard’ for it…but wants to question the lot of plebs across the country & infer laziness on their part while she seeks to further monopolise her (unearned) advantages, that rankles.
Gina has not spent a day in her opulent life stressing about how to pay the bills of an everyman, nor has she had to front up & physically exhaust herself, day after day, week after week, month after month, just to subsist.
Don’t be blinded by your anti-leftist myopia, Neil.
She only has to open her mouth to make a leftie start going into convulsions. Same goes for Howard, Abbott et al
She is stepping up to the soapbox with her megaphone neil, you know, ‘the campaign’. You’d have to be a fool not to have noticed the dog whistles coming from abbott and his minions recently throughout the media. Did you not hear the call to arms?
“the government can’t do it on it’s own, business must make their case”
re the renewal of workchoices.
“She is stepping up to the soapbox with her megaphone neil, you know, ‘the campaign’”
I mainly hear about her on this blog. I have heard she is the most wealthy women in the world.
Other than that, if the lefties did not mention her i would not know she exists.
ya`gotta watch out for those Lefty`s,
an innocent Lock-stepper could easily slip on spilled Latte and cause him to lose his marbles
You mustn’t watch or read mainstream online news sources with any sort of awareness or scrutiny then.
Another thing you’d have noticed, if you removed the horse goggles, is that everytime she gets her opinion promoted publicly, you can rest assured that Bolt (her bought apologist) has had forewarning & has already typed up apologetics, indignation & ‘alternative’ analysis to mount a rearguard defence of his benefactor’s intrusions into the public sphere.
‘Other than that, if the lefties did not mention her i would not know she exists.’
Tall poppy syndrome only effects a very small minority, so you are excused for being unaware of this phenomenon.
Was for Neil’s benefit, my last…
Calling it Tall Poppy Syndrome is a cheap evasion.
It’s patently obvious why you’d be rooting for Gina, el gordo. Sycophant.
Deliberate misinterpretation of everything I said. Useful idiot.
kneel and el`dodo can string together quite large quantities of comments that actually contain `zero` facts, worthy of a guinesse record
‘It’s patently obvious why you’d be rooting for Gina, el gordo. Sycophant.’
I’m perfectly happy to have a pink revolution and nationalise key assets, especially Gina’s mines, but what do you think the Communist Chinese would say?
‘Tanya Plibersek has defended Labor’s flagship social housing program as “very well-designed scheme”, amid evidence companies behind a major Sydney development tapped $80 million in taxpayer subsidies to help build units for wealthy foreign students.
‘Earlier this month, The Australian revealed that universities had won thousands of grants under the National Rental Affordability Scheme and were filling hundreds of these government-sponsored units with fee-paying international students.’
Owens / Oz
‘The ‘unprecedented mystery’ behind the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines flight MH 370 deepened on Monday when relatives claimed they were able to call the cellphones of their missing loved ones.
‘According to the Washington Post, family of some of the 239 people on board the vanished Boeing 777 said that they were getting ring tones and could see them active online through a Chinese social networking service called QQ.
‘One man said that the QQ account of his brother-in-law showed him as online, but frustratingly for those waiting desperately for any news, messages sent have gone unanswered and the calls have not been picked up.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578020/Why-cellphones-missing-Malaysian-Airlines-passengers-ringing-Family-members-claim-loved-ones-smartphones-active.html#ixzz2veHU5Dvw
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””””’The monk is a revolutionary leader”””””
No he`s not. Mr-Rabbit is largely an `obedient-puppet`.
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””””There’s a welfare subculture””””
Only among corporate chortling trolls on blogs.
‘Mr-Rabbit is largely an `obedient-puppet`.
Could you enlarge upon that nonsense comment?
‘Only among corporate chortling trolls on blogs.’
We could start with the indigenous population and then move onto the white trash, my neighbour has half a dozen renting rooms at his place.
‘A SURGE in China’s trade deficit has struck a blow to the federal budget, prompting a sharp fall in the price of iron ore that will potentially add $10 billion to the $123bn of deficits the Abbott government faces over the next four years.
‘Heightened fears about China’s economy prompted the biggest one-day fall in the price of Australia’s most lucrative export, amid news that business confidence had slipped back to pre-election levels of gloom.’
Creighton and Murdoch / Ozz
Gotta feel sorry for this fellow. It could happen to anyone.
“………..and her insinuations that others don’t ‘work hard’ enough (contrasted against her unmistakable sedentary self & Daddy’s Inheritance) which rubs people the wrong way; not just leftists, I might add.”
Sounds like a typical parent.
Nice to see that anything one says is only given weight according to some perceived measure of their wealth and not whether it actually has any merit.
Seems to be very prevalent in lots of posts above
‘Nice to see that anything one says is only given weight according to some perceived measure of their wealth and not whether it actually has any merit.’
Definitely tall poppy syndrome.
In other nooze…
‘The Abbott government has quietly reopened a visa loophole that will allow employers to hire an unlimited number of foreign workers under a temporary working visa, in a move that unions say will bring back widespread rorting of the system.
‘In the Coalition’s bid to remove all ”red tape” from the 457 skilled migrant visa, employers will not be penalised or scrutinised if they hire more foreign staff than they applied for.’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/rort-fears-as-457-visa-loophole-reopened-20140311-34kgr.html#ixzz2vhLY3QPq
I’m sure Labor will appreciate the new regs as they (and their union mates) will be able to import more leftist swill as media advisers and the like. Of course they will rail against it, but that did not stop Gillard from importing the totally useless McTernan on the specious basis that Australian journos couldn’t serve the Labor cause as well as him. As far as the ABC, Fairfax, Guardian, Crikey, the Monthly etc go, that is all their journos do and they work assiduously to that end.
“‘The Abbott government has quietly reopened a visa loophole that will allow employers to hire an unlimited number of foreign workers under a temporary working visa, in a move that unions say will bring back widespread rorting of the system.”
i must admit i don’t agree with this. But it looks like a lot of companies do not want to employ local workers and use the 457 visa system to fly in people who they can control. Maybe they are better workers as well but that is not what the 457 visa is for. It is for skills that we don’t have here which i find hard to believe.
“Sounds like a typical parent.”
What crap.
“Definitely tall poppy syndrome.”
What crap times two. As I said yesterday…Calling it Tall Poppy Syndrome is a cheap evasion.
You defenders of Gina wilfully misrepresent what I’ve said & the rationale behind me saying it.
So, tell me, where did I argue with what she said? What I did was attack the integrity of the messenger. Money shouldn’t buy disproportionate public influence; but it does.
My gripe is with the barely motile, hereditarily endowed lecturing the lowly masses on the virtues of ‘hard work’ from atop their money pile.
Gina is a grossly wealthy, self advantageous, manipulative ideologue.
Am I to presume that y’all want to see Australia buckle under some kind of fucked up IPA endorsed Thatcherism.
El gordo sticks his skinny neck out for her because she’s on the anti-AGW playlist. That aside, Gina doesn’t impress too many ordinary ‘workers’ who aren’t rusted-on conservative boosters, I should think.
“perceived measure of their wealth ”
Perceived?…GMAFB! Her ‘wealth’ is plastered all over the internet. It’s not something I have to guess about or fabricate. She wears her born-into-wealth crown like a badge of entitlement.
“Am I to presume that y’all want to see Australia buckle under some kind of fucked up IPA endorsed Thatcherism.”
It would be better to presume that most people here want to see Australia solve its economic problems and become a better place.
Also, Thatcher rescued Britain from its economic apocalypse brought on by years of socialism. Britain went from being the sick man of Europe to a country with good economic prospects. Most importantly she broke the treasonous commo unions which were holding the population to ransom. People couldn’t even bury their dead.
I don’t know that much about Gina, but the explosive effect she has on leftist heads can’t be a bad thing. The hateful comments about her appearance and the references to her family dealings are testimony only to the blackened souls and charred hearts of her critics. And they are irrelevant.
If she remains a figure of great controversy, I guess we will learn more about her in due course. Maybe she will be shown to be some or all of the things her critics claim. In the meantime the slimy slanderers of the left cut no ice with me. The bilious propaganda they write is, like authors themselves, not worth shitting on.
Yeah, well I have, on occasion, had to actually ‘work hard’ to get by. That’s not something Gina has ever accomplished. This is more an argument which pits chair sitters and desk pilots against labourers…which sheds a bit of light on some of the responses to my comments, imo.
Your reflexive bullshit about leftists & such is generic & easily dismissable as hyperbole…& doesn’t apply to me.
The ‘hateful comments about her appearance’ are perfectly legitimate when put in context. Or do you suppose she has some condition, other than sedentary Lordship, which predisposes her to resemble a queen sized bean bag despite all of the gruelling physical activity she
doesn’tundertakes?So, in summary, the slimy apologists of Gina’s likeminded cabal cut no ice with me…or hordes of others who understand what earning a living is like.
Also…”most people here”…isn’t synonymous with wider public sentiment regarding Gina.
It’s helpful to remember that there are many more of ‘me’ than her & her fellow travellers.
“That’s not something Gina has ever accomplished.”
How do you know that?
“Also…”most people here”…isn’t synonymous with wider public sentiment regarding Gina.”
Yeah. If she was a leftist in good standing like Graeme Wood or Morry Schwartz, or George Soros for that matter she would not be the target of a leftist hate campaign. If there was some real case against her we would, no doubt, hear all about it. But we don’t. All we hear is venom and spite – the pent-up hateful rage that is the true face of leftism.
“So, in summary, the slimy apologists of Gina’s likeminded cabal cut no ice with me…or hordes of others who understand what earning a living is like.”
Your reaction is just like the Alan Jones/Ray Hadley audience and makes about as much sense as their callers do when they have been properly riled up.
You know what, I more of a cynic than a leftist, every day of the week.
People who don’t even think in terms of left v right resonate against Gina. It has fuck all to do with politics for the common person. It’s that obvious.
And none of your attacks find a mark upon me…& all of my points stand.
Also, I’d like to see evidence of Gina ‘busting her guts’. Good luck with that; she’s physically incapable.
I could give no fuck about Rhinehart, until it attempts to influence the lives of others. Others whom it has no basis for comprehending the daily struggles thereof.
“You know what, I more of a cynic than a leftist, every day of the week.”
That is precisely why you are better than the ideologues. Gotta go home home now. Chat more tomorrow.
‘People who don’t even think in terms of left v right resonate against Gina.’
With so much being discussed on the subject I took a straw poll amongst hard core leftoids (school teachers) and none of them felt any animosity towards Gina because of her wealth.
You still miss my point, el gordo. 🙂
That’s probably true, its not my portfolio.
”””’Am I to presume that y’all want to see Australia buckle under some kind of fucked up IPA endorsed Thatcherism.””””
Yes. lt is a perfectly reasonable assumption deduced from those that continually sing the teabag tunes and are in Lock-step on every issue, that not only can`t even put up their case in a semi-coherent fashion, but try and rewrite facts, science and history,
for example,
””””””’El gordo sticks his skinny neck out for her because she’s on the anti-AGW playlist.””””””’
””””’You still miss my point, el gordo.”””””
the teabags specialize in missing the point, and being point-less
Lot`s of noise about Vietnam missing plane being on `military` radar.
Starting to smell like somebody`s military zealots have shot it down.
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NewYork noise, 2x 5-floor buildings have collapsed after gas-leak triggered explosion.
‘Starting to smell like somebody`s military zealots have shot it down.’
More likely teleported to a wormhole.
‘MALCOLM Turnbull will step up the case for far-reaching media reforms by hitting back today at warnings of the loss of regional TV news, as a confidential survey backs his claim that mergers will not threaten local services.
‘The Communications Minister will move to douse concerns about sweeping mergers between city and country TV networks, pressing ahead with ideas that have split the industry and sparked a political attack.’
Crowe / Oz
“Perceived?…GMAFB! Her ‘wealth’ is plastered all over the internet. It’s not something I have to guess about or fabricate…….”
Guess ?
Well the vast majority of the basis of those figures (wherever you might source them) is still in the ground and is of unknown quality and of unknown quantity and is possibly all iron ore with the possibility of other valuable minerals (or not) mixed into it which will take an as yet unknown number of years to extract at an unknown cost if extraction is even possible or even allowed to proceed.
Yep,………I’d call anything on the internet about her ultimate wealth pretty much a guess.
But if you’d like to call it something else give us a new bit of terminology.
But I’ll get back to my point.
You have dismissed her argument on the basis of what exactly ?
Your repeated categorization of hard work as only being capable of being carried out by those who might occasionally break out in a sweat and anything other than those carrying out some labouring task is largely irrelevant is rather amusing but thankfully not shared by the general populace.
I invite you to discuss your opinions with your local GP just moments prior to your next digital examination and report back on his attitude to being told his job is not a real job at all.
I will be interested in what you have to say then.
If you are still capable of saying anything
🙂
Mmmmmmmmmm………….
It seems the State Controlled Media of the Malaysians also has a tenuous grip upon reality just like our own ABC.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-kuala-lumpur-media-lashes-channel-nines-copilot-coverage-20140313-hvi2a.html
“Starting to smell like somebody`s military zealots have shot it down. ”
Yep
Sounds like someone has “lost” a missile
But having said that the number of denials from various experts over the weekend and others saying mechanical failure would be highly……………to very highly unlikely…………………leads me to believe that the cause is actually mechanical failure/decompression.
Explosive decompression kills pretty much immediately due to massive lung trauma resulting in those on board drowning in their own blood or from broken necks due to the sudden deceleration of the aircraft………….noice.
There’s also slow decompression as happened in the Mediterranean a few years ago (Helios Airlines in 2005) and in 1999 when golfer Payne Stewart was killed when his Learjet flew pilotless (all aboard unconscious or dead) before running out of fuel.
Heads will roll.
“I tried to contact Malaysian and Vietnamese officials days ago. But I do not know if the message has been received.
‘Mr McKay is working on the oil rig Songa Mercur off Vung Tau, on the south east coast of Vietnam. This would put the plane in the same general area where a Chinese satellite has spotted a suspected crash site.’
Daily Tele
“I invite you to discuss your opinions with your local GP just moments prior to your next digital examination and report back on his attitude to being told his job is not a real job at all.”
You’re probably well aware that my mum is a rural GP. 🙄 I probably have a better concept than you of how hard they work.
As for the rest of your twisting of my words, more on that later.
Suffice to say, it wasn’t me who declared Gina The World’s Wealthiest Female; at least once.
You doth protest too much, could it be because…it pits chair sitters and desk pilots against labourers…which sheds a bit of light on some of the responses to my comments, imo.
“You’re probably well aware that my mum is a rural GP.”
Careful………………….a rock relocater might be watchin’
Dance……….do that boogie woogie
”””’Yep,………I’d call anything on the internet about her ultimate wealth pretty much a guess.””””’
#Quack, Quack, Quack, You`re a Rupert-teer, remember blubbers.?
#full post below
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Gina Rinehart worth more but falls down on Forbes rich list
* by:
* From: AAP
* March 04, 2014 3:43PM
MINING magnate Gina Rinehart has tumbled 10 places on a list of the world’s wealthiest, despite getting richer.
Ms Rinehart’s current wealth is estimated to have increased in the last year by $US700 million to $US17.7 billion ($A19.89 billion), but she fell from a ranking of 36 to 46 in the latest Forbes Magazine rich list.
Her wealth has declined from two years ago, as the price of iron ore fell, and she focused on securing $7 billion in debt for her massive Roy Hill iron ore project.
On top of that, there’s the cost of financial legal battles against her family.
She was the world’s fifth richest woman on the list and easily Australia’s richest person, ahead of 208th-ranked James Packer with $US6.5 billion.
Australian-born media magnate Rupert Murdoch and his family climbed 13 places to 78th, with $US13.5 billion.
As the mining boom dramatically propelled the size of her wealth in 2011, it was speculated Ms Rinehart could become the world’s richest person.
However there is plenty of ground to make up, with Microsoft founder Bill Gates soaring back to the top spot after a four-year break with a net worth of $US76 billion.
Mr Gates displaced Mexican telecommunications mogul Carlos Slim Helu, who placed second at $US72 billion.
Next was Spanish clothing giant founder Amancio Ortega, owner of Zara, with $US64 billion, and then there’s high-profile investor Warren Buffett.
Rising stock markets swelled the ranks of the world’s billionaires to a record 1,645 from 1,426 last year.
The list included 172 women led by Wal-Mart heiress Christy Walton.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/gina-rinehart-worth-more-but-falls-down-on-forbes-rich-list/story-e6frg9df-1226844984175
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I went out of my way to advise you to seek professional help, clearly you haven’t done so.
”””””’Your repeated categorization of hard work as only being capable of being carried out by those who might occasionally break out in a sweat and anything other than those carrying out some labouring task is largely irrelevant is rather amusing but thankfully not shared by the general populace.”””””””””(blubbers)
#this seems to be the regular theme of cubicle and office bound types, that will always claim their `work` should be paid on a premium, while at the same time demanding all others `work` must be paid on a discount,
”””””’Rising stock markets swelled the ranks of the world’s billionaires to a record 1,645 from 1,426 last year.”””””””'(teh-oz)
#somehow, you seem to consider this gina`s `hard-work` blubbers, not just the blessed good fortune it is
We might as well call it what it, a class war, which is being led by big business and the political party that represents them.
*call it what it is
“…….that will always claim their `work` should be paid on a premium, while at the same time demanding all others `work` must be paid on a discount……..”
We have to pay for our gym memberships they get their exercise as part of their job.
Seems only right that we get paid a premium to keep fit after hours. You can call it the white collar overtime penalty rate if you like
Historically, class war has been the means by which posturing leftists have gained power and privilege, further impoverished the working class with their idiotic dreams and schemes and denied them basic freedoms. It is certainly true that we are seeing this tendency among the left these days.
I see that one of our “admirers” has had to publish a HUGE retraction after publishing an article that apparently misrepresented an individual’s qualifications, motivation, political orientation, membership of extreme right wing think tanks, endorsement of Jewish conspiracy theories…
Apparently that’s what happens when you simply repeat made up stuff that appears on mindless blogs.
Quite an embarrassment for ”An Information Alternative”
”””””Historically, class war has been””Waged by the Rich against the poor.
”””’We have to pay for our gym memberships”””'(blubbers)
l had no doubt you would have 1000 reasons to justify your gluttony, just as yomm has, but l notice ya`didn`t have the nads to justify the junking and erosion of the `other` jobs. #Just`Sayin
Breaking nooze on the missing plane, it feels like a worm hole of sorts.
“Quite an embarrassment for ”An Information Alternative”.”
What a pathetic individual.
The low life makes a blame shifting apology then allows his band of fellow low lifes to defame the guy again.
No wonder he’s had multiple marriages (is it 3 or 4 now ?)
Does the low life scum have kids. Do we know if the DNA of this low life will live on.
Would’nt surprise one bit given his track record of relationships if he does have children they likely detest him as well.
‘…. if he does have children they likely detest him as well.’
No they don’t.
Anyone who takes that polemic wankfest seriousy as a source of ‘alternative information’ needs to let go of their appendage.
“Dance……….do that boogie woogie”
Haha…I should’ve known, and would’ve, but I came off N/S this morning & had only had 3hrs sleep when I posted. 😉
In other news, SA Labor is absolutely going to get the righteous arsekicking which it thoroughly deserves after its arrogance, borne from too many years in power here, in South Australia.
I may actually bother voting here tomorrow, symbolically…not for a major; my vote here is worthless…in a conservative seat which will never change hands.
Not much prospect for the SA Libs, but the Rann Govt. (with a different, opportunist hood ornament) need to be shown the fucking door with extreme prejudice…& I’m confident they will be; but you can never be certain, with the majority of soft-headed cunts voting in the metropolitan areas.
”””’Anyone who takes that polemic wankfest seriousy as a source”””
boltreportland has quite a following.
He is hilarious & and so obviously biased as to be easily dismissed & ridiculed.
Why, even today, poor diddums posted a Poor-Andrew shoe gazing sympathy gathering load of tripe where he feigned chucking in the towel because of the nasty media responses which his own nasty media output cultivates. Boohoo, Herr Pisswiping Pied Piper of Lowest Common Denominator Conservative meme Followers.
Gina’s ill conceived public commentary is what is promulgating class war, in this instance.
””””’SA Labor is absolutely going to get the righteous arsekicking which it thoroughly deserves”””
it seems Tas labour is due for an arse-fcuking too dunny #GoClive
Much as I don’t want a Lib gov…Labor needs to be expelled here.
Not too sure about Tas.
Most of what I know about their political situation is anti-Green refectation from Herr Bolt’s RightwingMemeClearingHouse.
1. find a vicious rumour on some alarmist blog
2. find a few more
3. make the bizarre rumours and inventions into an “article
4. publish them on your blog, citing the sources as facts
5. get plenty of traction, because stupid people prefer rumour to fact
6. wait until the poor fellow that has been defamed to contact you before checking the facts
7. make a humiliating admission and correction
Now, anyone would expect the next point to be ridicule for the error made by a “serious” blog, a “source of alternative information”, but it’s –
8. accept the congratulations of all your fans for being courageous enough to make the correction!
“4. publish them on your blog, citing the sources as facts”
Duuuuuuh, YomM of Melbourne, duuuuuh …just make the sources anonymous in perpetuity…no contest: it’s like it never happened. Or not.
“8. accept the congratulations of all your fans for being courageous enough to make the correction!”
The Cult Of Monocular Analysis lives on!!!
Go Team!!!
Notify the high-paid trolls within your organisation that run identical, totally different borg-blogs so they can reinforce the message.
#GoTeam
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/13/dont-go-andrew-bolt-youre-the-apex-predator-of-our-media-landscape
And the hive-mind turns up on cue.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/13/dont-go-andrew-bolt-youre-the-apex-predator-of-our-media-landscape
so dumpty, you found somebody that has a nice collection of my comments, clever you, tho l have never referred to bolt as apex predator, but a substantial herder of morons
So the Fucktard over at that other shithole of his had to apologise again.
Caught copying stuff again because his tiny pea brain which is actually the size of a piece of kangaroo shit is too fucking lazy to check the facts
What a total fuckwit you are Taylor.
That reminds me. An acquaintance of mine was keen to check out if someone was doing any work part time or as a contractor for the APS in Canberra. There is a very strict APS policy on staff and expressing opinions.
He called me a month ago . I must call him back.
Haha..the Apex Predator link is great.
Read my mind…
‘so dumpty, you found somebody that has a nice collection of my comments,’
Not too difficult to find a critical opinion of Bolt at the Guardian.
And just for the record I do admire Bolt for his accurate weather forecasting (which he will one day receive the OA for his untiring effort) but in regards to race the idea of calling black white was never going to get up.
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The reason there is no lefty equivalent to Bolt is that there is no one on the left with the clear-headed integrity and intelligence of Bolt. He supports liberty and free speech and is against racism, socialism and politicised “science”. The fact that he is very popular drives the racists and totalitarians of the left absolutely nuts.
Bolt’s campaign against the institutionalisation of racism in our society is one of his most commendable efforts.
OK, he may get a few things wrong but the only reason he cops so much shit is that he so often nails leftist heads to the wall.
Jon Faine interviewed Abbott this morning. I thought Faine was soft, he framed the questions in a most contentious manner, but always just let Abbott ramble on.
Faine wanted to press him on the political orientation of the RC into unions, Abbott babbled on uninterrupted, Faine then moved on to another topic. I haven’t heard him being so soft since he interviewed Gillard.
“OK, he may get a few things wrong but the only reason he cops so much shit is that he so often nails leftist heads to the wall.”
I certainly dont agree with probably 25% of what he has to say but there is a certain clarity in his thought which contrasts to the convoluted and hypocritical approach of much of the Left.
e.g. The current shit fight in Sydney over the Biennale Arts Festival where 7 artists threatened to boycott the Festival because the major sponsor Transfield has a 5% (?) stake in the new company managing Manus Island.
However these same artists happily accept grants from the Australia Council (taxpayers money) when it is the government that sets the assylum policy in the first place.
If that’s not rank hypocrisy what is ?
Happily the Australia Council has been directed not to fund bodies that reject Corporate Sponsorship so very happily those same artists will have their incomes massively reduced.
Frankly I hope they starve
Nikki Savva in the Oz
“GIVEN his fevered defence of its workers and the need to keep Qantas Australian, coupled with his accusations that if the government abandoned them they would be taken over by – horror – Chinese or Middle Eastern airlines, it seemed reasonable to ask Bill Shorten about his own flight plans.
In January, Shorten and his wife Chloe travelled to Paris and London. Mrs Shorten’s business-class ticket was paid for by Labor law firm Slater & Gordon. His was paid by the taxpayer…
Bottom line: no, he never actually made it on to a Qantas plane on any of the legs – a fact that will give the government a priceless comeback next time the issue arises. There are people who put our money where their mouth is. Then there are others who simply mouth off……….”
Bill Short-Term is just another Leftist hypocrite
“If that’s not rank hypocrisy what is ?
Happily the Australia Council has been directed not to fund bodies that reject Corporate Sponsorship so very happily those same artists will have their incomes massively reduced.
Frankly I hope they starve”
Spot on.
”””The reason there is no lefty equivalent to Bolt is that there is no one””Prepared to under-go surgery to receive the Limited-News Lobotomy.
Ya`corporate splattering on bolt is total bullshit, no matter how many times you regurgitate their in-house marketing propaganda.
Limited-News is profit driven enterprise, and if bolt was as `popular` as you attempt to peddle, bolt would be `behind` the `paywall`.
He isn`t, and neither are the other borg-blogs, simply because people won`t pay for that shit. Not even the devout and rusted-on hive-minds that sing bolts praises.
Is there a blog anywhere in the world that’s behind a paywall?
Didn’t think so.
”””’Abbott babbled on uninterrupted, Faine then moved on to another topic.”””’
Mr-Rabbit won! _ He put Faine to sleep. 🙂
Nup, no blogs behind paywalls Scales`osy, no blog platforms `hosting` media-orgs,
http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-login.php?
Maybe you could like to point me to Brand Bots great journalistic literary works? His book publications of that have established his journalistic notoriety amongst peers and scholars?
Bolt it a hack brand promoting fraud. His debating skills are non existent. He talks over people and never..ever substantiates his argument, rather bullies opinion with a bellow. The interview with Professor Dugan was a disgrace. John Singalong Singleton is creating controversy amongst these hacks to sell advertising. Look at the stable of stupidity Steve Price, Alan Jones, Brian Wishire, Miranda Devine, Ray Hadley… gee there is a collection of lightweight blowup intellects.
Splatter you a Bolt brand Zombie. ask yourself why Bolt wrote those articles in the first place, to right some great injustice? I think not. Carefully targeted subject matter to invoke racist overtones for the creation of noise at the expense of others for monetary gain. What possible motivation did he have to write the articles in the first place? To self promote, just like climate change. He saw a marketing opportunity to be the anti and despite his best efforts he is nowhere on the issue as the crusader of climate skeptics. Where is his great book on the subject for peer review to promote his cause? He is in a perfest position, it would sell a motza. I’ll tell you where , nowhere because if he does release a book he will be exposed a a band wagon medicine show fraud.
If the right only have Bolt as their shining light of integrity, you are saddly being duped, he is an outright fictitious poster boy for a dodgy bran, a poor mans Bill Oriely, which in itself is sad.
And Walrus fuck off…
Bandis telling us as artist what we should do as arts minister, threatening to cut our funding (public money and a rigorous process) because we oppose his ideology? It is a choice of the artists to not take part and rightfully so as it was with tobacco and sport. Bandis is dictatorial and vindictive.. its a fucking disgrace and a tragedy. He will destroy the art community. But you blindly cant see that … So I guess he is Ok to say that the Board of Biennale is being bullied by artists whist he bullies art? What sort of art should we produce, nationalistic sloganism depicting our great leaders sponsored by Mcdonalds? Its very dangerous creating a dichotomy between artists choosing not to take part in Biennale and funding. It just proves he knows about as much about art and the process of getting a grant as the minister for woman’s affairs does about women. He essentially is saying that he will rewrite grant funding to suit his ideology, when there has been a bipartisan process of the most rigorous guidelines for 30 years.
FUCKING FACISM
‘He saw a marketing opportunity to be the anti and despite his best efforts he is nowhere on the issue as the crusader of climate skeptics. Where is his great book on the subject for peer review to promote his cause?’
Hmmm ….
It was never a marketing opportunity and he has no real understanding of the science, so there is no book, yet Bolt has sufficient clarity of mind to sniff out a humungous fraud. Its what reporters do.
“He essentially is saying that he will rewrite grant funding to suit his ideology,…….”
Comrade Pann,
Your fucking idiocy is so profound and so ingrained into your DNA that I do hope you are an only child.
Brandis has not done any such thing.
He has issued a directive to the Australia Council that they should withhold funding from bodies which unreasonably reject Corporate Sponsorship you fucking Leftist Lunatic.
I would hazard a guess that every fucking company on the ASX would have a little scandal that would equally unhinge the nearest Leftist/Commo lurking with a begging bowl.
Do you know how fucking difficult it is to get Corporate Sponsorship you fucking arsehole ?
I do having been on quite a few committees over the years and for fucking dropkick arseholes like you to try and politicise an Arts Festival by laying the boot into a company that has sponsored an event for over 40 years just goes to show what a fucking selfish c*nt you actually are.
Who the fuck is next on your agenda.?………….Ronald McDonald House ?
Yeah……….lets next attack companies that provide lifesaving equipment for public hospitals.
You are a fucking idiot Pann
Walrus seems a tad unhinged this morning.
Not at all
I just get mighty pissed off with things like Pann who in the pursuit of some perceived injustice disrupt charitable contributions by heaping insults upon those bodies that are doing the giving.
Unless of course he’s prepared to fully fund the shortfall created out of his own pocket which I doubt contains even a five buck note.
Obviously the fuckwit has never had to put in effort to raise corporate donor dollars in his life
Comrade Blubbers unhinging is caused by anticipation of likely TAS and SA going teabag.
Arts funding should be abolished. Except for important forms which need public support to survive. That would exclude popular music which, by definition, should be able to support itself. Funding should be retained for orchestras, opera companies, reggae, death metal and swing bands and bebop jazz musicians.
Kevin Price and his ilk should receive no government funding whatsoever.
“Walrus seems a tad unhinged this morning.”
Only Walrus? I did my best to animate the discussion! For a while I thought no one would take the bait. But Bed Pann and Retardland couldn’t help themselves.
no, not unhinged comrade splatter, just calling you out on your bullshit,
if bolt was as `popular` as you attempt to peddle, bolt would be `behind` the `paywall`.
He isn`t, and neither are the other borg-blogs, simply because people won`t pay for that shit. Not even the devout and rusted-on hive-minds that sing bolts praises.
Sorry Egg you are profoundly wrong on both counts
1 The only clarity Bolt has id for applying outrage to his brand,
2 Bot is not a reporter, he is a shock jock brand he never reports anything , he gives his opinion on things , which is about as far from reporting as you can get.
3 If bolt is so smart, why doest the write such a book? He has accepted the mantle of king skeptic , yet does not have the intellectual; capacity to prosecute his case because he is a fucking fraud.
You are so fucking stupid Walrus,
1 you hit the como mantle strait outta the blocks
and
2 You dont see the irony in that very statement
You atypically personify the fuckwits that castigate us in the arts, yet I will gather that you would not or have never attended Biennale.
Obviously? Obviously you are clueless. as I have had three grants, two projects funded by corporate donations and a scholarship funded by a corporate benefactor… All tax deductible as is transfields contribution to Biennale.
Apology?
What is unreasonable about artist asked to attend the Biennale objecting to the sponsorship of a company that funds gulags? What just take the money and run..? The last line of defence is Art, you call me a commo yet this has all the hallmarks of communist oppression that my family escaped complete with concentration camps.
But I dont expect you to understand that, you have never “suffered” to fund artistic pursuit comrade.
I will treat that statement with the contempt and ignorance it deserves.. Got your tickets to Biennale too Splatter? Spose they aren’t giveaways on 2GB so thats you fucked
“if bolt was as `popular` as you attempt to peddle, bolt would be `behind` the `paywall`”
That is an odd way to test popularity. Why not look at the size of his audience?
“Bot is not a reporter, he is a shock jock brand he never reports anything , he gives his opinion on things , which is about as far from reporting as you can get.”
AGREED!
“Apology?”
I dont apologise to Lefists or Commos
“……you have never “suffered” to fund artistic pursuit comrade.”
Oh fucking spare us !
“………objecting to the sponsorship of a company that funds gulags?”
Well that just proves you have not got a fucking clue what you are talking about or Abbott is a genius by getting Corporates to fund the “Stop the Boats policy.”…………………..you prized dickhead
“The last line of defence is Art, ………………”
Oh talk about Vomitville……………….seriously
(Rolls Eyes…….. Shakes Head…………mutters about typical Commos)
Oh goody, splatter wants to go on `circulation`, l have only been pounding teabags since Finklestein with Limited-News `numbers`. Back during Finkelstein 1of11 people read Limited-News crap, hit my blog if ya`want the detail. Throwing in the Boltreportland blurt, don`t make him anything more than a myth among the cranks.
“What just take the money and run..? ”
And that’s the entire point you idiot.
You’ll take money from the government who set the policy but you wont take it from a company who has a sliver of an interest in running the policy.
THAT MAKES YOU A HYPOCRITE !
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/13/dont-go-andrew-bolt-youre-the-apex-predator-of-our-media-landscape
haha, i just had a look at what you are all referring to – that guardian article was a belly laugh
Bolt having another fit of the vapours and declaring he can’t go on, then sits at home and writes 14 blog articles on the issue 😆
The author pegged him and what he happily provides for a large bag of money from those who try to divide us and normalise the ugly australians. It must be hard to maintain the dramatics!
We need him because he provides the media cul-de-sac where disenfranchised and uber-conservative white Australians with an inflated sense of victimhood can be effectively quarantined. Bolt is, in effect, their horse whisperer. He provides a place where people who are worried about the hordes of brown-gay-muslim-feminists coming to take our jobs and possibly our very lives can gather and commiserate.
I reckon this guy is on the money:
Martin_C scuzzlebutt
13 March 2014 3:02pm
I suspect this might be a James Brown style I-can’t-go-on stage collapse. Any second now Bolty will throw off his ministering aides, spring back to his feet and be Australia’s foremost Moron Whisperer once again.
hahahah, so funny, still not sorry for the bog bolter!
It is pretty tough to wade through the sewer of your drivel, Retardland, much less to discern a logical argument there. But it seems to me that if Bolt was nothing more than a myth among cranks the left would just ignore him.
The reason they squeal and squawk so much about Bolt is that they hate the light he shines upon their lunacy. It is like holding a crucifix to a vampire. Speaking truth to the power of the intelligentsia is a commendable occupation in any era. Watching them whine and bitch and moan about it shows that he is hitting his mark.
That is an odd way to test popularity. Why not look at the size of his audience?
That’s more a sad indictment on some australians. I do notice they seem to be a majority old, white, male, very hateful, conservative and ultra religious. That’s his niche, bitter and twisted people whom the world has left behind, pen wielding warriors for ‘western values’ as code for racism and christian superiority.
They don’t put it behind the paywall because propaganda is no good if people have to pay for it, they won’t get the desired reach. Best to get it out as far and wide as possible, next they’ll be dropping his stuff from planes!
Bolt is generally more polite than many of his critics. The left does really good hate – take Dropkick Deveney for example who seems to spend her time fanatasising about 11 year old girls getting laid.
You love that term don’t you walrus.. you know I am vehemently anti communist as members of my family were killed in Poland yet you still use it…Who are you Ray Hadley or something…
You wont apologise because , like bolt you are all opinion and no fact.
When confronted with someone who turns on your little
assumption switch off or on so you can typically pegg them to hate; that narrow little crevasse of comprehension within that pea you call a brain gets all steamy when they bitch slap you back into reality, so with nowhere to go your safety valve pops and out bleats.. oh you’re a commo..pathetic, just pathetic.
i’ll take it you wont be attending Biennale, rather retreating to your sad chair in your dressing gown listening to reruns of toys election victory on the wireless. I suggest you visit Mona or White Rabbit in Sydney both corporately funded but not shacked by ideology.
The fact is corporate sponsorship is an integral part of the arts landscape, Vivid has corporate sponsorship. It was censored last year which was a problem..COFA has corporate sponsorship.
You build up a network though your work for profiles to fit the work, they even teach such things to all the little commos, leftoids and pinkos at art school 🙄
There are some great points made here..
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/australia-culture-blog/2014/mar/14/australian-artists-respond-brandis-intervention-biennale-transfield
Its not the position of politicians to question artistic intent, that’s left to us as artists in our freedom of expression. The Australia council is not an instrument of ideology for a right wing monarchist’s whim. We are mirrors to society. If society does not like what they see, too bad. If organisations choose to associate themselves with art, please do its welcome enjoy the tax deduction. If they choose to dictate its terms, be prepared for its furious wrath.. Beware of those bearing gifts for publicity and tax deductions as no hand is beyond being bitten and infested with truth.
I will be performing tomorrow and some people may not agree with the sentiment of my songs but the person who pays us at the end of the day is just happy that people listen as we increase trade. That is a win win situation
“Apology?”
I dont apologise to Lefists or Commos
so you’re always right even when you’re wrong, just label any opposing view as commo/leftist 🙄
Very big of you.
Last I knew, it’s quite legal to be a ‘commo’ or a ‘leftists’, I think you’ll find that most don’t hold such old fashioned 1930’s mcCarthyist views, where the we all afraid of the ‘red peril’ anymore. Most people see it more of a humanist way of thinking, human beings who value other human life more than $$$ and value the environment that sustains and supports us all.
You love that term don’t you walrus.. you know I am vehemently anti communist as members of my family were killed in Poland yet you still use it…Who are you Ray Hadley or something…
he’s been doing it for years ricky, most of us don’t even bother replying to it, it just makes him even more unhinged.
we all know that the lefty/commo label is just a way of deflecting any need for a rational, well thought out position on any issue, just scream lefty/commo and they think that automatically wins any debate, no requirement to explain your own views 🙄
””’nothing more than a myth among cranks the left would just ignore him.””
””’The reason they squeal and squawk so much about Bolt””'(agree)
bolt and limited-news deliberately inject themselves into other things to antagonise and provoke response from various other groups, including the latte-left, my abc, green/labor hate and anti-science just to name a few
l would much prefer teh-left and my abc to ignore limited-news and the borg-blogs and allow them to hasten their own demise instead of providing more squawk-points for limited-news to harvest
brandis’ recent actions is reminiscent of howard’s threats to charities and NGO’s, he would defund them if they offered any political views.
more of the fascist state at work.
So Comrade Pann
Answer the question rather than string a whole lot of irrelevant crap together.
Why should the Australian Government/Taxpayer (which sets the asylum policy/politics) fund any artist who refuses to participate in an event until a Corporate Sponsorship is terminated due to a sliver of a perceived injustice ?
Why should the taxpayer help put a single cent into your pathetic pocket ?
Why are you so discerning in one instance but not another ?
Just answer the basic question without garnishing it all with crap
”””””””I do having been on quite a few committees over the years and for fucking dropkick arseholes like you to try and politicise an Arts Festival by laying the boot into a company that has sponsored an event for over 40 years just goes to show what a fucking selfish c*nt you actually are.
Who the fuck is next on your agenda.?………….Ronald McDonald House ?”””’
#l find people that say this(above) a bit hard to believe when most of their comment is usually `user-pays` or `anti-people/worker`. #JustSayin
“Last I knew, it’s quite legal to be a ‘commo’ or a ‘leftists’,”
Where did I say it wasn’t…………..just more of your usual verballing
“….l find people that say this(above) a bit hard to believe ……….”
Psssssssssssss……………..
A little secret for you…………………………….
I dont give a flying f**k what you believe
“………….We are mirrors to society……………….”
Pigs arse…………………………Says who ?
What a lot of garbage…………………you are nothing of the sort.
A poll every 3 years is more of a Mirror to Society…………………..not intellectual pygmies like you and your Leftist economic remoras.
Psssssssssssss……………..
A little secret for you…………………………….
You dont give a flying f**k what you believe either
It is getting like the mile high club around here – too much flying and fucking.
Arts funding should be abolished…
I’ve said before that I don’t see much point in all the government funding provided to imitation European art when there is so much that could be achieved by reallocating the money to indigenous art.
I won’t bother to repeat the dissertation that I’ve provided in the past, but-
• Support and promotion of indigenous art provides the best means of promoting cultural respect and reconciliation
• The support provides opportunities beyond being a footballer or token actor
• It is the only genuinely form of Australian art
• All the cash splashed out to artists to have some exhibition in Paris or London or New York is just a contemporary form of cultural cringe
”””””””I do having been on quite a few committees over the years and for fucking dropkick arseholes like you to try and politicise an Arts Festival by laying the boot into a company that has sponsored an event for over 40 years just goes to show what a fucking selfish c*nt you actually are.
corporations must never have their practices questioned, just accept that their donations and charitable acts whitewash any of their other actions.
acceptable to those who have no conscience, morals or ethics and look no further than the ‘public face’ of business.
”””””howard’s threats to charities and NGO’s, he would defund them if they offered any political views.
more of the fascist state at work.””””””'(ditto-agree)
the problem here armchair, is teabags refuse to use common sense, before they flap their gums, and choose to ignore the environment they are in, or moving into,
Last week, `Fencing` companies (yes, more than one) refused to build/supply one of the boat-people `gulag` operators with new gate/s.
Teabags won`t `get it` tho, they only see dollars, teabags can`t comprehend that `negative` publicity is hard to shake and damages their business.
(it is only workers wages that damage business) 🙄
“old, white, male,”
That is ageist, racist and sexist but you don’t have the self awareness to see the hypocrisy, do you?
“Bot is not a reporter, he is a shock jock brand he never reports anything , he gives his opinion on things , which is about as far from reporting as you can get.”
Bolt doesn’t do rounds in the traditional sense, its the 5th Estate and his followers supply him with tips from around the usual traps. There is no denying he’s a right wing commentator and chases after stories which reinforce his opinion.
Reb does the same at Gutter Trash, an international daily left of the political spectrum.
‘ …too much flying and fucking.’
🙂
You are not asking questions, merely make statements based in the bias of ignorant indifference. That is the job of art to provoke those of self denial into swallowing the bitter pill of reflective truth not sanitised by corporate interest.
I guess the ugly face of ignorance in the mirror is rather less empowering that the ability of art to sway populous opinion. We shall see how popular this ideology is on Sunday Walrus. Have a shave, and swallow the truth it will set you free
Ask yourself this question. Who’s legacy will remain entrenched in Austria’s cultural identity.. George Bandis or Paul Kelly, Andrew Bolt or Midnight Oil?
That dear Walrus is the power of Art, says who? says times legacy.
“Provocation is the amplified reason why the art exists. David Černý
No doubt these worthy wankers couldn’t see their own hypocrisy either.
Oh and before you start rabbiting on about Commo’s that’s where the political ideologists start, artists are usually the first to silence because unlike 2GB will have you believe, they are the most popular… ironically the Nazi’s rounded up all the art and the Russians destroyed it all. Big Big things are planned for Vivid that the fiberals are going to have cows over…. cannot wait.
“George Bandis or Paul Kelly, Andrew Bolt or Midnight Oil?”
If free speech survives they will all be remembered. Otherwise Bolt and Brandis will disappear down the memory hole.
Midnight Oil will be remembered in spite of their idiot lead singer who morphed into a sellout politician and then celebrity arsonist. Kelly will be revered by junkies everywhere as one of the few people to recover well, and by the culinarily challenged who don’t know how to make gravy. Actually, How To Make Gravy is his best song but the one that speaks loudest to me is Dumb things. No surprise there.
celebrity arsonist….?
Whatever did happen to the bid bald one…?
””””””””That is ageist, racist and sexist but you don’t have the self awareness to see the hypocrisy, do you?””””””””
lt is not `hypocrisy` stating that bitter, twisted religious hateful old white male teabags have most of the power in society, when they do!
The Celebrity Arsonist earned his sobriquet for his role in the Pink Batts scandal. It was whole houses, not just the beds that were burning!
Peter is regrouping and still working for the Australian Conservation foundation. He is a deeply religious man and probably one of the most upstanding moral men I have ever met. I once had an interesting one on one with him, knowing that the ALP was trying to recruit him for years. I told him about them trying to kick me out of the party for heading up an investigative committee into branch stacking and he was shocked.”Don’t trust Arbib under any circumstances Peter please” Rudd used his celebrity for capital and used him up, then hung him out to dry. Because Peter is so moral and devout, he bit his tongue and towed the party line, unlike the factional operatives within the party. Although he is tagged as extreme and leftist he is in reality, quite conservative and like me in the centre prefering to be issued based. He was hung out to dry by Rudd on the pink bats thing as he wrote to Rudd and met with him complaining that it should have gone to gold licensed builders , who already had insurance and accreditation. He was devastated by what happened as he saw his mother die in a house fire. It really had an lasting adverse effect on him. . He is actually a great guy for a barrister..lol His story would make a fantastic book but he is a very very private person.
very interesting Ricky.
l`m still yet to hear teabags explain why they are letting all the State Govts off the hook for their failure of upholding their own laws, and place it on the kevin07 Govt, who did not have the business licensing responsibility`s
“…..corporations must never have their practices questioned, just accept that their donations and charitable acts whitewash any of their other actions.”
Clearly you don’t even bother reading the various posts before commenting as that right was not questioned.
The point at issue is if you wish to protest about getting funded by a sponsor who has a financial stake in implementing government policy then you are a fucking hypocrite if you then accept taxpayer monies from the very government who put the policy in place.
Next time read the thread and not the bits you like to select and mis-translate
“He is a deeply religious man and probably one of the most upstanding moral men I have ever met. “
Sadly that is why, as you suggest, he was manipulated by more calculating types. Hopefully the enquiry into the scandal will somewhat vindicate Garrett and lay the blame where it belongs – at Rudd’s door. As I understand it Rudd ignored warnings from Garrett’s department about the risks of undue haste in implementation of the scheme.
“Ask yourself this question. Who’s legacy will remain entrenched in Austria’s cultural identity.. George Bandis or Paul Kelly, Andrew Bolt or Midnight Oil?”
Fuck me……………………talk about “look over there”…………….!
What the fuck has Austria got to do with all this…………….. ?
Or are you playing somewhere along the fucking Danube not Cockatoo Island this weekend ?
“l`m still yet to hear teabags explain why they are letting all the State Govts off the hook for their failure of upholding their own laws,”
There is no law preventing you from hiring an unlicenced “tradesman” in NSW.
But you’d be an idiot to do so………………………….Oh I forgot…………….we are talking about Rudd, Swan, Gillard et al
“Sadly that is why, as you suggest, he was manipulated by more calculating types……..”
That’s right Splatter……………………………….you need total fucking uncaring arseholes to run certain aspects of business and government.
I should know
oh&s nsw, in-force during `burnt-batt` era
””””””””””””’
8 Duties of employers
(1) Employees
An employer must, so far as is reasonably practicable, ensure the health, safety and welfare at work of all the employees of the employer.
That duty extends (without limitation) to the following, so far as is reasonably practicable,:
(a) ensuring that any premises controlled by the employer where the employees work (and the means of access to or exit from the premises) are safe and without risks to health,
(b) ensuring that any plant or substance provided for use by the employees at work is safe and without risks to health when properly used,
(c) ensuring that systems of work and the working environment of the employees are safe and without risks to health,
(d) providing such information, instruction, training and supervision as may be necessary to ensure the employees’ health and safety at work,
(e) providing adequate facilities for the welfare of the employees at work.
(2) Others at workplace
An employer must, so far as is reasonably practicable, ensure that people (other than the employees of the employer) are not exposed to risks to their health or safety arising from the conduct of the employer’s undertaking while they are at the employer’s place of work.
Note. See section 12 for the penalty for an offence against this section and other provisions of this Division. Division 4 makes ancillary provision with respect to those offences, including section 26 (Officers of corporations required to exercise due diligence).
See also Division 2 for duty of employer to consult employees.
http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/fullhtml/inforce/act+40+2000+FIRST+0+N
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””””””””There is no law preventing you from hiring an unlicenced “tradesman” in NSW.””””””””
probably same can be said for `unlicensed-business`
but that doesn`t let`em off the hook with oh+s and their workers,
however `workers` were harmed, not the unlicensed-profit-keeper/business
Fuck me……………………talk about “look over there”…………….!
What the fuck has Austria got to do with all this…………….. ?
Nothing but predictive text does… and there ya go again..nothin
Still waiting for my apology Walrus you fascist, know it all, commo, leftie, suppository of ray Hadley parroted wisdom…
Well you should but obviously you prefer to get your opinion from the likes of Hadley and bolt rather than from people who actually know. So I guess that safety valve will keep screeching commo, commo commo each time your wee brain gets full.
Will someone clean his cage it must stink in there, its full of parrot shit…. 🙂
Hey this is uncanny aint it…
“I will be performing tomorrow and some people may not agree with the sentiment of my songs ………..”
I was wondering what I could do with my one pot of insect infested rotting tomatoes that are still hanging on the vine rotting in the sun getting softer and softer.
Looks like a drive into the City tomorrow. Perhaps a carton of eggs on the way as well……………
“……….but that doesn`t let`em off the hook with oh+s and their workers, ”
If you wilfully dont care who you contract (per Rudd) how is the State Government going to police it ?
If you employ someone (unlicenced/uninsured) to clean your roof and they fall off it without insurance you cop the hit for the damages.
If you hire someone with a licence and with insurance then you dont cop the damages.
Pretty simple I would have thought…………………………
Oh but it’s you I’m talking to isn’t it 730………..
l agree. When Mr-Smith and Mr-Jones responded to advertising on TV for `pink-batt` installation, Mr-Smith was responsible to check his contractors license before granting the contract on his home, ditto for Mr-Jones and his home.
What`s that got to do with kevin07/fed-govt.?
Please do, I would love the publicly… I will make sure I bring at least two camera’s as I am sure everyone will enjoy a video of our roady teaching you a few manors before he turns you into an art installation that resembles a festering omelette.
That is not a threat, our madolin player is playing a $25,000.00 instrument that he purchased 30 years ago and if you breath near it I would suggest that killing yourself would be a less painful experience…..
Reb… Is this guy threatening me? It would seem so… I am warning him.
Hmmm…How shall I warn security… Let me see …
Look for a fat middle aged walrus with an over inflated sense of self importance that looks like he listens to Andrew Bolt? Should not be to hard to spot amongst civilised cultured people. Maybe a mandatory check for grazed knuckles and a walk upright test? 🙄
That’s the other problem artists have and I’ve played to the most extreme rednecks imaginable It always comes down to, one thing … ENVY especially when their girlfriends chat you up 🙂
The kevin07 fed-govt was responsible for writing Mr-smith`s and Mr-Jones `grant`money cheque, the State-govt was responsible for `watch-dogging` oh+s and biz-licensing.
Look the Home insulation Scheme is indefensible. Great idea, bad execution. You had twats roaming around unregulated outside the jurisdiction of sane OH&S without insurance. Phantom insulations… on and on…Rudd didnt dropped the ball he hurled it.
I was licensed with AUSTEL and had a team of guys doing cabling. I know it is highly dangerous work, especially for untrained people in roofs. Its shitty work too. Old cabling , false roofs with metal bracing…We always killed the mains in a house..always, no exceptions. OH&S first above everything.
Its not gonna bring people back. It wont happen again so lets just move on… There is no such thing a justice and no amount of blame is gonna change jack shit…
I don’t know what this royal commission is going to prove other than an attempt for the Fiberals to parade pollies on he stand and score a few points from the misery of unnecessary death.. to do what? sell a few papers?
“Look for a fat middle aged walrus with an over inflated sense of self importance that looks like he listens to Andrew Bolt? ”
Almost correct………………….except the “fat” bit and “over inflated”
”””Phantom insulations”””(agree)
””’Rudd didnt dropped the ball he hurled it””’
Fine Ricky. l keep hearing that from the teabags, and like you omits the `specific-detail` that the kevin07-govt actually `broke` or over-ride some `law` to be responsible for the blame.
#agree with the rest of ya`rant
“Fine Ricky. l keep hearing that from the teabags, and like you omits the `specific-detail` that the kevin07-govt actually `broke` or over-ride some `law` to be responsible for the blame.”
Uh-oh. Trouble in Paradise. Someone has strayed off the reservation and had an independent thought. Looks like re-education may be required.
At least Retardland can carry on the party line utterly impervious to logic, reason or how ridiculous it looks.
”””carry on the party line”””
Funny you say that and miss the point. Clever teabags would claim they made enough `noise` to successfully drown out the `specific-detail` that some people want to know, tho they weren`t paying close enough attention at the time.
“Someone has strayed off the reservation and had an independent thought”
LOL!
Unlike teabag land I actually think for myself and gravitate in the middle. Which means I’m a leftie to all the lying, denialist parrots in right wing jerk circles.
I had a cable contracting business for a few years and I knew the danger of this scheme from the get go. I spoke to the Attorney general about it and pointed out some problems that I saw could be lethal. I watched a mate get electrocuted in a roof and I nearly lost him.
In principle I thought the whole thing was an excellent concept but very dangerous if not implemented through the appropriate statutory bodies who would administer the OH& S requirements. It was poorly executed ..
This gave teabaggers ammo to throw at the NBN when Carnival Kev was talking up one of the most monumental pieces of infrastructure in Australian history.That is replacing our telecommunications infrastructure after the fucktards of the fiberal party chopped telstra’s balls off before they were about to embark on modernising the copper network which is fucked and falling apart thanks to “free market forces”
Dont believe the inside trading merchant banker with an acronym cheat sheet, turdbull. They will not deliver it cheaper and better and all that shit, it will cost a bomb, I know this because I built the network for the Navy many yeas ago and it was fucking expensive.
But it has to happen.
It is essential for decentralising industry and business and regionalisation. We need to revitalise dying towns and get people out of the wage explosion in the cities to places they can afford to live. Turdballs built nothing at Oz email..he sold what they had to worldcom at an over inflated price and then they folded. He is flat out turning a lightswitch on, he’s all bullshit and lucky to be here as he was the only guy to double cross packer, who he did a handshake deal with. That proves say lots about his character for mine.
Sometimes it takes the simplicity of a child to contrast the complexity of a liar,
‘FORMER Labor frontbencher Kelvin Thomson has taken aim at the Rudd-era housing affordability program, saying poor Australians are struggling to pay rent while taxpayers bankrolled units for foreign students.
‘Mr Thomson’s criticism of the National Rental Affordability Scheme comes amid revelations that Monash University’s subsidised housing has just a handful of indigenous students even though the university uses the names of two pioneering Aboriginal women for the buildings.’
Wallace and Baxendale / Oz
Free speech Gina Style..notice not a peep from..Champion of free fuckwitism Tim Wilson, her Andev del> cock for hire Spokesman. Suprisingly Mien panty smear skidmark Brandis in the directorate of vindication and propaganda is rather silent..and the minister for inside trading & acronyms he don’t understand Turdball? Where’s he? Where’s Bolts outrage, why isnt he talking over Jolly Green Gina to get a del> headjob headline outa this “free speech” injustice, after all he’s her boy toy? Someone take out his batteries? Hmmm free press…
http://m.smh.com.au/business/rinehart-ordered-to-pay-costs-to-journalist-20140315-34tkq.html
And the usual mess left by Labor
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/day-one-will-hodgman-tackles-budget/story-e6frgczx-1226856446958#
“One of his new MPs and a frontbench hopeful, Paul Harriss, flagged a commission of audit to assist the new majority government in tackling a record budget deficit and mounting debt.”
Doesn’t matter which ALP govt it is. State, Federal, local, whatever they always leave a trashed budget.
Kneel, record interest rates, inflation, government spending and taxes under you demi god prime miniature John Winston…http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/alp-best-manager-of-money-history-shows/story-fn59niix-1226056371414
George Megalogenis is a partisan hack. He goes to enormous lengths to trash the Coalition and praise the ALP.
A blind fool is what he is.
Why, how considerate of you!
I’ll take 15 please.
Why, how considerate of you!
I’ll take 15 please.