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Why did the Media Ignore March in March?

March 17, 2014
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March in March in Sydney: A Pointless Protest says News Limited

It wasn’t that long ago that the mainstream media and in particular Channel Nine and Seven widely reported the crowds of anger, and the so-called “convoy of no confidence” that descended on to the lawns of Parliament House to protest the then Labor Government’s Carbon Tax.

There, stood the diminutive attention-seeking shock jock Alan Jones, whipping the crowd of some 300 forestry workers, butchers and bogans from Ipswich declaring that the apparent late arrival of the so-called “convoy,” was due to Australian Federal Police preventing the convoy from entering the ACT at the NSW Border.

“This is the most disgraceful thing that has ever been done to democracy,” Jones told the rally.

Of course, all this turned out to be veritable bullshit, with the AFP subsequently confirming that no intervention was necessary as no convoy in fact existed.

Not to be outdone, then Opposition Leader Tony Abbott proudly stood aloft banners declaring “Ditch the Witch,” and “Bob Brown’s Bitch” in reference to then Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

At the time, the Opposition Leader felt it made “great television” (an antonym obviously), and despite the vindictive and hate-filled sentiment of the placard-wielders, the media successfully rammed home the message that the crowd were not in fact mindless thugs, but salt-of-the-mill mums and dads concerned about the nation’s future.

Fast forward a mere three years  to the “Anti Abbott” political event that took place just this weekend called March in March.

In comparison to the widely-reported anti-Carbon Tax rally in Canberra in August 2011 which attracted a crowd of just 300 supporters largely buoyed with members and supporters of the National Party, and the perpetually outraged Angry Anderson, the March in March rally attracted crowds in excess of 100,000 in Australian main capital cities yet was widely ignored by commercial news broadcasters and the mainstream press.

In Melbourne alone, a crowd of some 50,000 protesters took to the city’s streets yesterday to protest the Abbott government’s stance on asylum seekers, education, welfare, the environment and climate change.

Yet, Australia’s main commercial news outlets simply ignored the rallies or belittled them.

Jacqueline Maley of the Sydney Morning Herald, slammed the protesters as “socialists” and based the focus of this rather pointless piece in the Herald on the “offensive nature of the placards”.

Poor petal…I guess she thought “Ditch the Bitch” was okay.

Meanwhile Malcolm Farr and News Limited labelled it “the most pointless protest ever.

Really? I would’ve thought the “convoy of no confidence” won that mantle by a country mile.

But you know, never let the facts get in the way of how the media would like us to see things.

 

 

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486 Comments leave one →
  1. egg permalink
    March 17, 2014 5:16 pm

    Instant uprisings are now de rigueur, organised marches are so last century.

  2. March 17, 2014 5:24 pm

    #Classic Maley (not in a good way)

    ””””’British singer Billy Bragg, currently on tour in Australia,””’OK

    ”””’was a surprise guest.””’Bullshit

    Bragg was all over my abc breakfast, tellin virginia he would be there.

  3. Walrus permalink
    March 17, 2014 5:41 pm

    So what exactly were they marching for ?

    I saw some banners calling for the assassination of Tony Abbott plus some Union Official in Newcastle gave a speech suggesting someone shoot Alan Joyce in the back of the head.

    Real……..real nice stuff.

    Not to mention the “Fuck Tony Abbott” T Shirts.

    One of the more polite banners right at the very head of the march just said “Fuck Tony, Fuck Democracy”

    And you actually bother to wonder why the Commercial channels were not interested in showing the march in primetime ?

    “Fuck Tony, Fuck Democracy”

    It would seem democracy is always a failure when your side loses

  4. March 17, 2014 5:42 pm

    ””’convoy of no confidence””’ was a teabag-media wet-dream,
    so lots of `noise` was made,

    `marching march` ””main commercial news outlets simply ignored the rallies or belittled them”” seem

    to be getting the `occupy` treatment from what l see,

    because not in `favour` of teabag-media.?

  5. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 17, 2014 5:43 pm

    No surprise Billy was there – he probably sang some of his better songs like “Waiting for the Great Leap Forward” (which contains the immortal line “Revolution is only a T-shirt away”) to a frothing and frottaging crowd. It is funny how the left get off on their street theatre protests. Bless their little bleeding hearts.

  6. March 17, 2014 5:49 pm

    “It is funny how the left get off on their street theatre protests”

    It’s funny how the right worship nut jobs like Alana Jones at theirs…

  7. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 17, 2014 5:52 pm

    That’s not even funny, just sad. His audience must like getting roused on by scoldy old teacher.

  8. March 17, 2014 6:04 pm

    We enjoyed our convoy of no consequence, we all felt important supporting our microphone idol.

  9. March 17, 2014 6:44 pm

    #Unlike Limited-News, Farr accidentally included `detail`,

    Mr-Rabbit and Shortmen `found` other duties more pressing, so didn`t show-up at the Canberra `march`, only Bandt did.

  10. March 17, 2014 7:13 pm

    ””””’democracy is always a failure when””it doesn`t live up to its own hype!

  11. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 17, 2014 8:44 pm

    Both sides of politics wanted to ignore it, largely because it was a genuine people protest, pretty much against against our government [both sides] and what they do supposedly in our names. Not your rinehart/jones “support our billionaires” type fake protest it came from the real grassroots.

    I expect there to be more and will happily join them, they will ignore at their peril.

    Watch now as shorten and abbott try to massage and manage the message and pretend it has nothing to do with them.

  12. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 17, 2014 9:05 pm

    It is funny how the left get off on their street theatre protests.

    I can only imagine what type of ‘street theatre’ the convoy of incontinence had, perhaps the perennial true blue, or waltzing matilda, maybe something anzac for a call to patriotism, some redgum or khe sanh – they’ll really get the thongs clapping!

  13. egg permalink
    March 17, 2014 10:14 pm

    ‘…pretend it has nothing to do with them.’

    They aren’t pretending.

  14. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 17, 2014 11:44 pm

    They aren’t pretending.

    so why did all those people get off their arses and into the streets egg? do tell

  15. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 18, 2014 12:14 am

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/nsw-liberals-to-return-tainted-donations-after-icac-revelations/story-fn59niix-1226856986134?from=public_rss#

    THE Liberal Party will refund $57,000 in donations from a private infrastructure company which NSW’s Independent Commission against Corruption has heard were actually paid by the publicly-owned Sydney Water Corporation.

  16. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 18, 2014 12:26 am

  17. March 18, 2014 2:57 am

    I was there with our contingent amongst which were people who voted for Abbott. There was at least 25 to 30 thousand in Sydney. Lots of people joined in George st as Belmore park was over flowing. It was peaceful and partisan and had Bolt frothing at the mouth..

    Abbott and his band of fiberal incompetents are despised but the shock for me was how many people attended across the spectrum. Abbott will regret the day he stated we will be a government of no surprises.

    The conservatives are losing control of the media facade and the general feeling is people are being sick of treated like idiots and the consistent lies. Abbott will ignore this at his peril as people like myself are sick of this right wing bully boy bullshit. Australia’s experiment with right wing teabag ideology is over.

    Australia will move back to the partisan center. The right can froth and fizzle all they like over the course of the next twelve months there will be a concerted and united assault on this mandate lie… The main targets will be the credibility of this governments mandate at 4%. Abbott is widely regarded with the extreme disdain he deserves. This man is unworthy… What i’m getting is the heritage area’s and education are the last straw and this will break this governments back.

    So spin it how you like, its happening and its real its no straw pole its the last straw.

  18. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 7:36 am

    ‘so why did all those people get off their arses and into the streets egg? do tell’

    They are hard core leftoids and watermelons, I guarantee 97% of the population didn’t give it a second thought.

  19. Tony permalink
    March 18, 2014 7:51 am

    “They are hard core leftoids and watermelons”

    Exactly. They lost at the ballot box, now they’re throwing their toys out of the cot.

  20. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 8:17 am

    Not that I have anything against people marching, but its only a ‘feel good’ moment for the disgruntled participants. The rest of us prefer the ballot box as an expression of our beliefs and in a democracy, majority rules.

  21. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 8:58 am

    “it was a genuine people protest”

    It was certainly was one of he largest public wankfests of recent times, featuring as it did the usual rag-tag ratbag anus-fingering dregs of the Commo era now re-badged as SocialistAllianceGreenUnionProgressives. Every variant of intellectual disease was on show all ranting and bleating and massaging their pleasure zones then drenching each other in their rancid bodily fluids. It is a shame no one put out the ratsak.

  22. March 18, 2014 9:34 am

    “They are hard core leftoids and watermelons, I guarantee 97% of the population didn’t give it a second thought.”

    Well now that we have your “personal guarantee……”

    🙄 🙄 🙄

  23. March 18, 2014 10:02 am

    They are hard core leftoids and watermelons, I guarantee 97% of the population didn’t give it a second thought.

    Wrong lots of families, lots of people of the centre no affiliates with a political party

    drenching each other in their rancid bodily fluids. It is a shame no one put out the ratsak.

    Pretty sure you went there so we will chalk that down to a lost opportunity 🙄

    It was certainly was one of he largest public wankfests of recent times, featuring as it did the usual rag-tag ratbag anus-fingering dregs of the Commo era now

    I know every time you use the commo reference its code for , I have nothing and i’m all frothy about fact, truth from the reality of real people.. 🙂 As always you’re out there dick in one hand telegraph in the other tossing furiously with assumptions about everything without actually knowing or experiencing fuck all. Typically predictable, a terrorgraph version. If your frothing about it, it has you worried and that is good.

    Exactly. They lost at the ballot box, now they’re throwing their toys out of the cot.

    So you agree with everything the Abbott government are doing? You’re happy with the 4% mandate lie? Its a us and them, we won divide for you is it? You actually dont care about the country? Everyone that disagrees with this radical right wing ideological tea party government is a Lefty? Abbott has a licence to do whatever he likes?

    Here is a fact that all you Abbott fisting circle may find hard to swallow.. There were thousands of people there who voted Fibereal and are mad as hell, because they never voted for this.

    You must all be in shock…this is Australia reclaiming sanity from the lie that elected these fiberal incompetent fakes.

  24. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 10:07 am

    ‘Wrong lots of families, lots of people of the centre no affiliates with a political party’

    I did see an anti-greyhound racing banner, but more generally it was a partisan gathering.

  25. March 18, 2014 10:08 am

    “dick in one hand telegraph in the other”

    😆

  26. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 10:10 am

    ‘There were thousands of people there who voted Fibereal and are mad as hell, because they never voted for this.’

    Of course you have a link to back up that claim?

  27. Tony permalink
    March 18, 2014 10:15 am

    “Of course you have a link to back up that claim?”

    What? Ricky’s anectotes aren’t good enough for ya?

  28. Tony permalink
    March 18, 2014 10:16 am

    *anecdotes

  29. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 10:24 am

    “…………..and are mad as hell, because they never voted for this.”

    Considering we don’t yet have a new Senate what exactly is “this” ?

    Is it that surprise “Turn Back the Boats” policy that Abbott suddenly sprung on the electorate after the election. Gee he was sneaky with that wasn’t he ?

    Perhaps that other threat to get rid of the Carbon Tax. I mean I had no idea that was on his agenda.

  30. March 18, 2014 10:25 am

    “Of course you have a link to back up that claim?”

    LOL…

    This, from the one who only backs up her own ridiculous claims with nothing more than a “personal guarantee”…

    Oh how we laughed…!

  31. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 18, 2014 10:30 am

    Here is a fact that all you Abbott fisting circle may find hard to swallow.. There were thousands of people there who voted Fibereal and are mad as hell, because they never voted for this.

    Never voted for what? I get that there are those who hate the Libs full stop, and those types are more likely than others to take to the streets etc, but what exactly has the current Government done that it didn’t say in big bold letters that it was going to do?

    From the coverage (albeit limited) I saw, there was anger about same sex marriage, turning back boats, the old Murdoconspiracy, a few other standard lefty bits and pieces……

    Otherwise it seemed like a protest against a government doing pretty much what it said it was going to do.

  32. March 18, 2014 10:34 am

    “mad as hell, because they never voted for this”…

    CORRECT:

    1. Tearing up forestry agreements protecting old growth forests
    2. Announcing that they intend to commence logging in those forests, cos “too many of them are locked up”
    3. Tearing up Gonski reforms and announcing a new focus on education spending
    4. Targeting spending on Medicare with cuts to funding
    5. Targeting penalty rates and other workers’ entitlements when they said WorkChoices was dead, buried and cremated before the election.

    Yes, people are rightly mad as hell (including some Liberal voters) because this govt has simply walked away from so many commitments it made before the election and has simply transformed overnight into the heartless, aggressive, homophobic and racist pack of wankers everyone suspected they were before the election.

    It was entirely predictable, but of course the fools bought the Tony “I’m a clean slate” Abbott sales pitch.

  33. Tony permalink
    March 18, 2014 10:53 am

    ‘1. Tearing up forestry agreements protecting old growth forests
    2. Announcing that they intend to commence logging in those forests, cos “too many of them are locked up”’

    Judging by the Tassie election results, most voters down there agree with those policies.

  34. March 18, 2014 11:09 am

    Reb you beat me to it, moreover this government who “promises things” specifically that there will be no surprises and that seems to personify definitely this government in a nutshell.

    I warned people that Abbott is incapable of governing for all Australians and even by my estimations of Abbott, having lived through his greatest hits, he has certainly exceeded my conservative projection of his rapacious, divisive and vindictive dictatorship.

    I have many conservative friends who voted fiberal and we all meet every four times a year, most of us are in the centre and not one of them likes Abbott. Five out of 11 in our group that vote fiberal (3 of which are card carrying liberals) marched.

    This is the reality. Even if you are a conservative, Abbott and the radical tea party god bothering loonies has hijacked the fiberal party from sensible conservatives. You wont find any links to rigged straw polls that reveal common sense.

    The people attending the march were not an apparition of the Murdoch divide you footy game political zombies have been conditioned to hate, rather the face of partisan sanity that love our great country and have had enough of the lies that elected this government…

    Keep frothing..you will boil dry when the oxygen of hate has evaporated and sanity is restored.

  35. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 18, 2014 11:44 am

    This march was a joke. Abbott has not been in long enough to protest about anything except their policy of turning back the boats which has been introduced and is working. Apparently no asylum seekers by boat for 3 months now.

    Lefties like to imagine how bad it might be before anything bad happens.

    The bloke with the fake molotov coaktail in his backpack shows you how crazy some of these people are.

  36. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 11:53 am

    “dick in one hand telegraph in the other”

    Great hit, Ricky! I love it when people get down in the gutter with me! 🙂

  37. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 11:57 am

    ‘This, from the one who only backs up her own ridiculous claims with nothing more than a “personal guarantee”…

    The 97% figure was meant as humour … the consensus.

  38. March 18, 2014 12:06 pm

    This march was a joke. Abbott has not been in long enough to protest about anything ….yada yada yada..commo commo commo…lefty lefty lefty…99 change hands…99 change page…bolt bolt bolt… sqwark sqwark shriek shriek..polly wanna cracker

    What’s up Kneel, glimpse of real world reality beyond ya smellegraph fog and slippers bit too much for ya to digest?

    Just hold tight to that lock of Honest Johns Monobrow in that locket around your neck son and ask for a miracle from Tony’s mentor and moral compass George Pell.

  39. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 18, 2014 12:11 pm

    Judging by the Tassie election results, most voters down there agree with those policies.

    It was time for a change that was all, let’s see how they feel after libs start plundering for their mates.

    …featuring as it did the usual rag-tag ratbag anus-fingering dregs of the Commo era now…

    sb, you really must get out of the house more, the world has moved on, it is you who is still playing that old anus-fingering dregs of the Commo era movie in your head. You won’t find many people identifying with communists these days, just those who like to be part of a fair and decent society. People are really tired of the politics of hate and division.

    You had the right who were as vicious and nasty as they could be when gillard was in power, simply because they didn’t recognise her legitimacy. Tony abbott never had any to begin with. The vested interests couldn’t bear the thought that they didn’t run the show, so they attacked your supposed ‘democracy’ mercilessly.

    Now the people don’t accept the rule of the corporations and all that they represent.

    Make no mistake it is an open class war from the robber barons [hat tip to TB] and we won’t be distracted by a little asylum seeker sideshow.

  40. March 18, 2014 12:21 pm

    Great hit, Ricky! I love it when people get down in the gutter with me

    Splatter I prefer to walk over gutters, I could only imagine with horror how it must feel to parachute out of a snakes ass and free fall for 15 minutes 🙂

  41. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 12:27 pm

    You won’t find many people identifying with communists these days

    Because they have re-branded. Even Lee Rhiannon gave the commo game away and became a (surprise, surprise) Green. She would not have had to change her views one iota to make that move.

    “Tony abbott never had any to begin with.”

    Unlike Gillard, Abbott actually one an election, convincingly. Gillard knifed her way to the PM’s office and then presided over a hung parliament in a coalition with the Greens. The fact that the majority voted for the unlovely Abbott is a measure of how disgusting the ALP/Green government was.

    “Make no mistake it is an open class war from the robber barons [hat tip to TB] and we won’t be distracted by a little asylum seeker sideshow.”

    That sort of anti-democratic nonsense always spews from the slobbering mouths of the left when the people give them the arse. You need to relax. Abbott won’t be as good as his boosters dream nor as bad as his critics say.

    So far, at least he has stopped the drownings and, consequently, the left are seething.

    His big weakness is the economy – he promised to keep most of Labor’s spending, cut taxes and spend more on PPL. That doesn’t even make sense. He will have to break at least some of those promises. I reckon this budget will be a horrific (if I’m saying that you are going to go completely nuts at the cuts) and he will then be hammered.

  42. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 12:32 pm

    ‘Abbott won’t be as good as his boosters dream nor as bad as his critics say.’

    Don’t underestimate his determination to bring about a revolution.

  43. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 18, 2014 12:34 pm

    Poor blot, nothing can lift him from his doldrums and martyrdom.

    Andrew Bolt unhappy with ABC apology for ‘racist’ claim on Q&A
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/18/andrew-bolt-unhappy-with-abc-apology-for-racist-claim-on-qa

    …In a statement to the ABC, Langton confirmed she had apologised for causing offence to Bolt “because he stated that I should apologise to him because I had ‘hurt his feelings’ and offended him”. But she added that Bolt had a newspaper column, a television program and a blog site “and ought to be capable of a robust debate that is a dialogue rather than a monologue”

    ouch!

    hasn’t he got a radio show too? he flogs that in his blog all the time.

    Bolt said the ABC had made “the smallest apology it could get away with”.

    Why should that bother the ‘still not sorry’ blot.

    They are very precious these right wingers, they certainly give it out and they have the use and backing of immense resouces to do so, but they really do have a glass jaw when it comes to taking any themselves. Abbott is the same.

  44. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 18, 2014 12:37 pm

    Don’t underestimate his determination to bring about a revolution.

    Don’t underestimate the power of a fed up population of ordinary people who are getting hammered by ‘the system’.

  45. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 18, 2014 12:49 pm

    Not a lot of sympathy in comments:

    carnbeyleavitt
    17 March 2014 11:07pm

    The main point about this drama is that the tough guy took to his bed when someone said something mean about him. Bully boys are SO fragile.

    OMG123 wellsy32
    18 March 2014 12:43am
    He’s the loudmouth who is getting a lot of money to say what Rinehart, Murdoch and Abbott et al, want. Preposterous how we are as a country are being held to ransom by this systematic attack on all civil and democratic rights.

    bob_about mikem2
    18 March 2014 12:44am

    I dont know, this may actually turn people off the likes of bolt, especially when he champions his personal criticisms of people as free speech. its so blatantly hipocritical that even his supporters will start to question his ethics.

    Lynlylo
    17 March 2014 11:20pm

    This is pathetic. Poor Andrew Bolt was offended yet those he offends should suck it up. A bully and a thug.
    Chris Kenny was offended by juvenile and repulsive humour yet Julia Gillard was told to suck it up.
    Why do middle and older age white men need apologies when they throw tantrums and lesser beings should suck it up?
    How about a conversation on equality and respect for all.

    AndiGuar Lynlylo
    18 March 2014 12:35am

    Because middle aged and older white men approach the world from a sense of entitlement: that they will be listened to, respected, that their words will carry weight, and that they will never be criticised or vilified, so they feel it very acutely when it happens to them, but they don’t notice it when they do it to others from their platform of self-entitlement.
    As an interesting aside, have you ever noticed that people who go on shooting sprees are almost always disaffected white males? Asians don’t carry on like that, African Americans in the USA don’t carry on like that, indigenous people don’t either.
    One theory is that white males constantly have that sense of entitlement reinforced to them, so when they find themselves socially or economically marginalised, their sense of outrage flares up & they lash out at the “others” who they think are depriving them of their birthright – Anders Breivik being perhaps the most obvious example…

  46. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 1:00 pm

    “Because middle aged and older white men … etc”

    KL, loved that last quote. Shows you have a sense of humour and an ability to laugh at your own foibles.

  47. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 1:31 pm

    “The 97% figure was meant as humour … the consensus.”

    That’s what Putin just said to Obama about his referendum

  48. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 1:32 pm

    ‘Don’t underestimate the power of a fed up population of ordinary people who are getting hammered by ‘the system’.

    Maybe.

    Alan Kohler’s first two graphs illustrate the inequality of wealth in a capitalist system.

    https://www.alankohler.com.au/

  49. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 1:45 pm

    Stupidity on a stick:

    “have you ever noticed that people who go on shooting sprees are almost always disaffected white males? Asians don’t carry on like that, African Americans in the USA don’t carry on like that, indigenous people don’t either

    If you want to stereotype and attack people on the basis of their age, skin colour or gender then don’t whine about racism, sexism or ageism because you are all of the above.

  50. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 18, 2014 1:54 pm

    Sorry sb, stereotyping is what you are doing, also fallacious and flawed.
    if you do a bit of research, you’ll realise that pointing out a few outliers does not negate the whole, same as in gender bias, pointing out a few prominent women doesn’t mean that all other women have equal opportunity and wages.

  51. March 18, 2014 1:54 pm

    Contrast… exploitation of moral high ground in the division of people to sell soap powder..
    Note the language Mandate, extreme, radical…words in mouth, I just don’t understand, pointless.. We all know the end result of John Cowards treachery, hurled out of own seat by a first time upstart too proud to give the worlds laziest treasurer a go on the bike.

    Programs like SKY are the equivalent of a digital lobotomy.

    This is what personifies hack journalism and the reason many marched…

  52. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 18, 2014 2:09 pm

    Looks like lefties are in a permanent state of outrage. If Gillard was in power they would still be outraged but they would mainly keep their outrage to themselves.

    When a Coalition govt gets in, out they all come blaming the problems of the world on everybody but themselves.

    I think i am outraged about that.

  53. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 2:13 pm

    “Sorry sb, stereotyping is what you are doing,”

    I did two things:

    1. Showed how utterly, contemptible that stupid passage, which is a prime example of stereotyping, you quoted is;

    2. Made the point that those most shrill about sexism and racism are the most overtly sexist and racist of all.

    That is the opposite of stereotyping. Stereotyping is when you propagate a thesis based on a racist, sexist or ageist stereotype (or in your case all three). The fact is you are the most blatant and obscene racist around these parts. Ditto sexist. Ditto ageist. And you can’t even see it, can you?

  54. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 2:15 pm

    ‘I think i am outraged about that.’

    Don’t stress yourself, the country is swathed in blue and I’m feeling magnanimous.

  55. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 2:31 pm

    “Don’t stress yourself”

    Indeed, egg. The more things change…. There is something re-assuring that there is a new generation of young moral exhibitionists with their extravagant displays of righteous anger and their head-tilting moments of concern. Cute little muppets they are. And the cynical old revolutionaries with more years of marching and posturing than they would care to mention. Many who started as red-diaper babies have become drooling red-diaper geriatrics, their precious piss-soaked ideals now reeking of senility.

  56. armchair opionator permalink
    March 18, 2014 2:34 pm

    So sb in your eyes, pointing out the well researched obvious is a stereotype. I think you misunderstand what the word means. You are a perfect example of privilege, can’t see it where it exists, but will shout from the rooftops to defend it!
    Your argument doesn’t make sense really, it’s just blather for the sake of it.
    Too funny 😆

  57. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 2:44 pm

    “You are a perfect example of privilege, can’t see it where it exists, but will shout from the rooftops to defend it!”

    KL, what I do see is a bunch of po-faced leftists trying to privilege themselves by calling other people names, while at the same time exhibiting exactly the same type of behaviour they complain about.

  58. March 18, 2014 2:52 pm

    “Programs like SKY are the equivalent of a digital lobotomy.”

    This is true, but the Sky and Fox Nooze are easy targets.

    Even the dear old ABC plumbed new depths of journalistic depravity some months ago when it became half an hour devoted to Leigh Sales “interviewing” Chris Uhlmann about what he thought were the political issues of the day..

    Thank christ he’s gone, and they only drag him out for special occasions now like State elections.

  59. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 3:04 pm

    “Thank christ he’s gone, and they only drag him out for special occasions now like State elections.”

    Maybe you should listen to AM, reb. Or maybe not!

  60. armchair opionator permalink
    March 18, 2014 3:32 pm

    Except sb, for the inconvenient fact that they are not privileged or trying to privilege themselves, they want equality 😉

  61. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 3:47 pm

    What is equality, KL? Sounds pretty hazy to me. Do you mean like “from each according to his ability to each according to his need”?

  62. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 3:49 pm

    I think I’m quite “priveleged”.

    And fuck me I had to study and work and work and work and work alot of late nights and weekends to finally be able to say that.

  63. March 18, 2014 3:51 pm

    “I had to study and work and work and work and work alot of late nights and weekends to finally be able to say that.”

    Pity you missed out on the spelling classes though.

  64. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 3:53 pm

    “What is equality, KL? ”

    Why the fuck would anyone want equality ?

  65. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 3:54 pm

    I used to be good at spelling. ………………I blame keyboards for the deteariorachon !

  66. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 4:04 pm

    ‘When I joined the Labor Party as a boy, the branches were filled with the cream of the working class, when I leave it, it has been replaced by dregs of the middle class.’

    -Kim Beazley Senior, MHR for Fremantle from 1945 to 1977, father of Kim Beazley.

  67. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 4:09 pm

    This just goes to show how pathetic Bill Short-Term is.

    The LNP introduced regulations today winding back Short-Terms own financial advisor reforms.

    What has he had to say about it ?

    Absolutely fuck all.

    They are his OWN landmark reforms

    Then a Union Leader in Newcastle suggests someone shoot Alan Joyce in the back of the head.

    Short-Term should have condemned the speech. Do we get a display of leadership ?

    No

    Just more deafening silence

  68. armchair opionator permalink
    March 18, 2014 4:12 pm

    We recently saw the bolter being interviewed on one + one too.
    Why don’t they just do an ‘Australian story’ on him, that’s the usual way to get a soft sob story out for ‘the misunderstood’ or those wanting redemption.

  69. March 18, 2014 4:16 pm

    Looks like lefties are in a permanent state of outrage.
    I think i am outraged about that.

    Are you sure your outraged?, you best wait till School master Jones to allows your dissent, Just in case hover around in your usual holding paten of predictable drivel augmented by the occasional “commo” and “lefty” till Tony gets his next instruction from puppeteers Rhupy and Credlin. With the trickle down effect, by the time it gets to you, it will be in terms so stupid you will lapp it up then crap it out.

    KL, what I do see is a bunch of po-faced leftists trying to privilege themselves by calling other people names, while at the same time exhibiting exactly the same type of behaviour they complain about.

    Aww doodums, Pop over and join that martyr of white middle-class syndicated oppression Andrew Bolt and and stoke each others hair singing Kumbuya in unison over in the dish it out but cant take it void under the stairs in of house of hypocrisy on the street of no fucking idea.

    Is this the new ism? Middle class whites who take offence to not being oppressed? Why don’t you sew a fucking quilt about it?

    What’s Andrew Bolt the Bono of Australia? We are all one all the same… only a stupid white bread middle class fuck-wit would asserts such lunacy from the comfort of their ignorance.

  70. Ol' Sancty permalink
    March 18, 2014 4:45 pm

    On the financial advisory stuff……

    I don’t think the regulatory relaxation thing is necessarily permanent, more a means to try to resolve a nagging problem. When super first came in, the choice of fund rested with the employers, for good and practical reasons. The result has been that many many people have small super funds here there and everywhere and have no idea how to consolidate them. Financial Advisers won’t assist because the nature of giving financial advice now is so highly regulated that the cost to deliver a basic Statement of Advice is in the thousands. Much of that work is in declaring how Advisers are potentially paid, even if it’s not actually occurring that way.

    So I think the Govt is saying to the industry “get this mess cleaned up and whilst you do it, we’ll relax the rules a bit to make it easier.”

    Additionally, all this regulation hasn’t stopped crooks from being crooks. The crooks can always work around it, or just act until they get caught. It’s mostly just created work for the average Joe trying to earn a living, and increased costs for the consumer.

  71. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 4:55 pm

    “…we’ll relax the rules a bit to make it easier.”

    Cutting red tape is in line with their mantra and its timely.

  72. March 18, 2014 4:58 pm

    Yes sir, bolt sure showed the nasty woman on Qandaland who`s a racist, yes sir, no thin-skins around here, ahh huh

    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/pdf/Marcia_Langton_on_Bolt.pdf

  73. March 18, 2014 5:02 pm

    ”””’interviewed on one + one too.”””’
    it was so fcuking pathetic #vomit
    .
    .
    ””’do an ‘Australian story’ on him,”””
    get fcuked armchair #double-vomit #less-bolt-not-more

  74. March 18, 2014 5:18 pm

    “all this regulation hasn’t stopped crooks from being crooks. The crooks can always work around it, or just act until they get caught. It’s mostly just created work for the average Joe trying to earn a living, and increased costs for the consumer.”

    This is one of those rare occasions where I agree with Snacty…

  75. March 18, 2014 5:25 pm

    As many elders in our clan predicted, certain people tend to get `uppity` when you declassify them from their natural status of `fauna`, and show no gratitude to those of the superior class that granted them all their privileges. The `Gays` will prove to be equally ungrateful.

    Now excuse me. l have a cross to burn.

  76. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 5:28 pm

    “It’s mostly just created work for the average Joe trying to earn a living, and increased costs for the consumer.”

    I dont think too many people with just lets say $100K in their Super are ever going to beat a path to the nearest financial advisor.

    I’m more concerned with those with money not in Super but in the bank or in their home equity being led into a system of secret commissions and shit advice.

    2 words sum it up

    “Storm Financial”

  77. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 5:33 pm

    Bed Pann: “Aww doodums, Pop over and join that martyr of white middle-class syndicated oppression Andrew Bolt”

    What have you been smoking? The comment you referenced has not an ounce of self-pity in it! In calling out dumb leftist hypocrites I might be accused of stating the bleeding obvious, but nothing more.

  78. armchair opionator permalink
    March 18, 2014 5:36 pm

    Ricky @ 4:16
    Best laugh I’ve had today!
    I agree with James too 😯

  79. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 5:36 pm

    To each their own I suppose but to me for this woman to be so outraged about Bolt ridiculing her Aboriginality is like me with my pre-1803 Irish heritage being outraged about the Queen setting foot in Dublin.

    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=misty+jenkins&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=CBDDCF9C2658AA36709E00964841158117441764&selectedIndex=7

  80. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 5:37 pm

    Yes

    That was very un-PC

  81. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 5:41 pm

    “all this regulation hasn’t stopped crooks from being crooks. The crooks can always work around it, or just act until they get caught.”

    Which gets back to my point the other day about ASIC (plus APRA) needing extra manpower

  82. March 18, 2014 6:02 pm

    ””””””””it became half an hour devoted to Leigh Sales “interviewing” Chris Uhlmann about what he thought were the political issues of the day _ Thank christ he’s gone””””

    The `interviewing` each other is a fcuking dud style that never belonged on a certain `Reportland` and the dills at my ABC were very fcuking foolish for tryin`it`on with the `traditional` reportland viewer. (more suited to sunrise7) Putting Sales out to pasture on her maternity leave didn`t come soon enough. Fergy does a pretty good job overall, great at `dogged` live interviews, but on the downside, can come across as a bit `droning` sometimes, but if TJ can overlook this, so can l.

  83. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 6:08 pm

    Walrus, Bolt didn’t ridicule Misty at all, as far as I can tell. He was arguing that a supposedly independent publication had a leftist slant.

    “Page four has a feature on Dr Misty Jenkins, a blonde and pale science PhD who calls herself Aboriginal and enthuses: “I was able to watch the coverage of Kevin Rudd’s (sorry) speech with tears rolling down my cheeks . . . Recognition of the atrocities caused by Australian government policies was well overdue.””

    You could argue that describing Misty’s appearance and the fact that she identified as Aboriginal he was ridiculing her but that is a big stretch. And it is a million miles from the “foul abuse” Langton claimed it to be.

  84. Walrus permalink
    March 18, 2014 6:21 pm

    “………And it is a million miles from the “foul abuse” Langton claimed it to be……..”

    Absolutely agreed

    But he did have a bit of a “dig” at her appearance.

  85. March 18, 2014 6:22 pm

    ” They lost at the ballot box, now they’re throwing their toys out of the cot.”

    Convoy of Incontinence/No Consequence?

  86. March 18, 2014 6:24 pm

    Hey Teabags, the `abuse` Langton is talking about `was` largely on his blog pre-rda-case. The Limited-News management had bolts blog `sanitized` since then, and ordered he have `independent` moderator, and no straight-thru posting of comments.

  87. March 18, 2014 6:26 pm

    sanitized = posts and comments deleted

  88. March 18, 2014 6:26 pm

    Bolt is precious.

    Bolt’s followers take their lead from his hurt feelings. The feelings of those he uses his skyscraping soapbox to assail are irrelevant. Poor Andrew, poor diddums! Why, he nearly conceded in a fit of lost bladder control just last week. Truly, he is a victim of terrible injustices without any sort of monologous megaphone to respond by. They should change laws to remedy his delicate nature…

  89. March 18, 2014 6:37 pm

    Dunny, amazed you turned up sober, sa went watermelon, thought you would be scotch infused for at least a couple`a weeks. Tas went teabag.

  90. March 18, 2014 6:38 pm

    Logging Corp’s are our ‘greatest conservationists’ = GUFFAW

    The truth always outs after the fuckheads have had power for a few months.

    I tend to agree that the result in SA last weekend would have been much more punishing for SA Labor if Abbott hadn’t started to shed his small target cloak in recent times.
    I didn’t vote, for the 2nd time in the last year.

    He’ll shit in his own nest often enough to expose himself fully before too long.

    Smell the stench of hypocrisy on his breath as he backs Sinodinos. Smell the stench on the breath of his likeminded lickspittles; who were only ever cynics of the other side of the coin.

    Fuck I hate politically aligned arse clowns.

    * PS- Hitler was a Green Vegan Leftist & had a hand in writing Mao’s little red book. GlennAndrew BoltBeck told me & I had it verified by websites I was lead to by SeanCorey HannityBernardi. Maximus Conservatardius.

  91. March 18, 2014 6:42 pm

    SA is still ‘undecided’ as far as I know at the moment.

    I assumed it would be a massive swing against the incumbent government. They’d have deserved that if it had happened.

    To be honest, I’ve largely ignored it all. I didn’t show up to vote in what is a majority conservative seat which has never (and will never) changed hands. Utterly pointless. Disregarded as a lost cause by the arrogant SA ALP…& taken for granted as an eternal gimme by the sickening, disorganised, barely viable rabble which is the SA Libs.

    Probably gonna have to pay the laughable $20 fine this time I suppose.

  92. March 18, 2014 6:45 pm

    ” They lost at the ballot box, now they’re throwing their toys out of the cot.”

    But, they didn’t have to have a shockjock fucktard manufacture ludicrous excuses to explain their pathetically low turnout, apparently. Nor did the Opposition join in the billionaire’s tanty parade to attempt to give it credence.

  93. March 18, 2014 6:50 pm

    “You could argue that describing Misty’s appearance and the fact that she identified as Aboriginal he was ridiculing her but that is a big stretch.”

    Stretch or not…the dogs who slaver to Bolt’s barely audible whistling knew/know exactly what he was getting at. It’s his tried & tested approach. Just enough slime to discolour, then sit back & claim plausible deniability when the simple crotchsniffers who hang on Herr’s every word get all het-up bout it.

  94. March 18, 2014 6:55 pm

    Ditto. With near wall to wall teatards in the States, and Mr-Rabbits reheated canberra zombies, but the teabags are still shrill. They don`t seem to realize they need to do more than say `no`. Sayin `no` all the time doesn`t really count as a `plan`.

  95. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 18, 2014 7:02 pm

    ” who were only ever cynics of the other side of the coin.

    Fuck I hate politically aligned arse clowns.”

    I am more anti-labor than pro-coalition. There is almost nothing a Labor supporter says i agree with.

    “Sayin `no` all the time doesn`t really count as a `plan`.

    At the moment Abbott cannot get anything through the Senate.

  96. March 18, 2014 7:14 pm

    Mr-Rabbit will not get things thru the senate because Mr-Rabbit is a dud, other politicians have `negotiated` things thru, Mr-Rabbit still has not learned the lesson of being out-negotiated and out-witted by Joolya.

  97. March 18, 2014 7:21 pm

    There is almost nothing a Labor supporter says i agree with…ergo, only ever cynics of the other side of the coin.

  98. March 18, 2014 7:25 pm

    Mr-Rabbit also has no hope of not being a dud in the future. Mr-Rabbit`s handler, Peta Credlin has also not learned the lessons, when she was out-done by Joolya also.

    Pretending that not being able to convince or offer anything worthwhile to fellow conservatives like Oakshot and Windsor, and fail to gain their support for governing, does not represent the current government would be a mistake. These are the same dills that are running Mr-Rabbit today, as back then.

  99. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 7:38 pm

    ‘Mr-Rabbit will not get things thru the senate because Mr-Rabbit is a dud’

    If the independents play up, Abbott will go to a double D or lose the big seat to Talcum. There is no other option.

  100. Tony permalink
    March 18, 2014 7:44 pm

    Those voters in SA and Tassie sure sent a message to Abbott on Saturday, only not the one the March Hair-brains wanted.

  101. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 18, 2014 7:50 pm

    Tony, you are misreading the signals of the electorate – the voters want more Green everything, business taxed out of existence and free fairy floss for all the good children in leftie La-la Land for ever and ever after.

  102. March 18, 2014 7:55 pm

    Misjudgement from on high.

  103. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 18, 2014 7:55 pm

    “ergo, only ever cynics of the other side of the coin.”

    No. What they tell me is false.

  104. March 18, 2014 7:58 pm

    Hilarious prognosticating about the state of SA politics from the East Coast. Deliberate wishful misrepresentation.

  105. March 18, 2014 7:58 pm

    You are as one-eyed a political imbecile as it is possible to imagine, Neil.

  106. March 18, 2014 8:00 pm

    March-Hair brains…so much less credible than The Convoy of Cultivated Incredulity.

  107. March 18, 2014 8:01 pm

    For those who watched the `show` tonight,

    did everybody notice the electric recharge stations rolling out on the west coast.?

  108. March 18, 2014 8:01 pm

    March in March = 100,000 people.

    Convoy of Incontinence = 300 people.

    Just sayin’

  109. March 18, 2014 8:03 pm

    * he probably meant hare…

  110. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 18, 2014 8:03 pm

    No Toilet.

    What Labor supporters tell me is usually false.

  111. March 18, 2014 8:04 pm

    Just sayin’…

    Stop pointing out the gulf between purchased outrage & genuine confected outrage!

  112. March 18, 2014 8:05 pm

    Perhaps, Neil. But you are about as open to alternative opinion as a housebrick.

  113. Tony permalink
    March 18, 2014 8:08 pm

    Leftoids love a good march, especially when they can get their hate on. I’m sure they were genuine though. They really do hate anyone who doesn’t think like them.

  114. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 8:09 pm

    ‘Convoy of Incontinence = 300 people.’

    It was only on a single issue, which was impacting the hip pocket nerves of some senior citizens. Nevertheless, it was a silly stunt and the Denialati never supported it.

  115. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 8:15 pm

    Here’s a Sceptics view of The March.

    http://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/03/march-against-democracy/

  116. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 18, 2014 8:21 pm

    Well lefties told me for years that the Howard/Costello govt created trouble for Labor by giving tax cuts every year.

    Now more recently they tell me that the Howard govt was the highest taxing ever and labor could run a surplus budget if Labor taxed like Costello.

    So some lefties used to tell me Costello did not tax enough. All he did was give tax cuts to the mainly wealthy. Now more recently they have changed their story and tell me he taxed too much.

    Lefties are just not consistent.

    They just tell me falsehoods.

  117. March 18, 2014 8:55 pm

    our wolf-criers are totally pointless tonight, that`s nice

  118. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 9:00 pm

    At least we can all agree that the march is a reactionary movement.

  119. March 18, 2014 9:07 pm

    #tonights observation

    1. just saw a government advert on tv which is promising to gouge much harder, the citizens that smoke cigarettes,

    2. earlier tonight, tv news said a black-market tobacco crop containing 30,000 tobacco plants was busted by `cops` somewhere

    #systematic stupidity
    #can`t join the dots

  120. egg permalink
    March 18, 2014 9:10 pm

    Nanny Roxon must take full responsibility for this debacle and for once we are in agreement Teabag.

  121. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 18, 2014 9:13 pm

    The only thing that surprised me about the march is why they waited so long.

    I expected the lefties to start marching within two days of Abbott being elected saying how bad he was and how bad his govt was.

    They tried hard and managed to wait 6 months before out they came. Must have taken a lot of will power to stay inside for so long. They were just busting to start marching.

  122. March 18, 2014 9:48 pm

    #both `teams` equally stupid dumpty,

    #both `teams` equally addicted to cigarette-tax revenue when in power,

    #both `teams` equally gutless to `out-law` dangerous chemicals in cigarettes

  123. Eva vickery permalink
    March 18, 2014 10:37 pm

    To walrus….. A minuscule example of the thousands of banners each attempting in their own way to make it very clear how outraged a huge HUGE number of Australian citizens are at the current government and Tony Abbott in particular. Not a socialist movement but the castes array of folks including incredible numbers of people apologising for voting liberal in the last election. 100000+ marched around Australia alone…. And that’s just who were there physically…. Please attempt to get a full picture if who what and why before slamming something you don’t understand….

  124. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 18, 2014 10:46 pm

    I think the union official who suggested that Alan Joyce be shot should be dismissed from his position.

    It’s typical of the violent edge that some union types think is appropriate

  125. AllTalkNoAction permalink
    March 19, 2014 12:39 am

    I just wonder where all these people came from that marched. It’s one thing to apologize (and make it public) for ‘accidentally’ voting for the wrong side but the rest are the ones who have confused me. I guess maybe they don’t have televisions, or read newspapers….otherwise it’s quite difficult to get out of your chair and go and march you know!! Maybe there is going to be an uprising of people in denial or more rightly labelled ‘media ignorant’. *rubs hands* something to sit and watch on my tele I think ;o)

  126. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 19, 2014 12:59 am

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/abbotts-boulevard-of-broken-promises-20131127-2yac4.html

    We’ve brought broken promises on ourselves
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/weve-brought-broken-promises-on-ourselves/story-fn53lw5p-1226820690127#
    …Gonski funding for schools education, funding guarantees for the ABC, pledges not to revisit wages policy in the Coalition’s first term, potential means-testing of the Child Care Rebate, cuts to health spending. We can throw in a pre-election pledge to assist SPC Ardmona, which was knocked on the head by cabinet last week. Even pre-election promises not to adjust the frontbench team or alter parliamentary rules weren’t kept…

  127. March 19, 2014 1:23 am

    No Toilet.
    What Labor supporters tell me is usually false.

    Do you mean they have told you are not an irrational broken record who thinks for himself with a great understanding of political discourse and debate rather well?

    I think the union official who suggested that Alan Joyce be shot should be dismissed from his position.

    Figuratively and Context

    I just wonder where all these people came from that marched.

    Home 🙂

    Walrus, Bolt didn’t ridicule Misty at all, as far as I can tell. He was arguing that a supposedly independent publication had a leftist slant.

    Seriously? What the fuck was he talking about this in the first place? Some great injustice? Defence of Aboriginal issues?.. fuck me, are you guys stupid? He wrote about it to get a rise and create controversy… he is fucking racist and litigiously sloppy. Its simple they count how much advertising is booked against the legal slush fund and off they go. Its calculated risk, by the time it gets to the high court, they have made a bucket load of money complaining about how they are being silenced whilst peddling this vindictive trash. He is a nasty piece of work as per his brand bad guy, voice of the people (kneel and the thinkers on automatic) , poor mans Bill O’reilly.. If he is so righteous about the cause or any of the other bullshit faux crusades to sell shithouse paper why doesn’t he write a book? I’ll tell you why, because he would be laughed out of existence because he is incapable, he’s a boofhead. What he knows about science you could write on a postage stamp with a broom dipped in his own bullshit. 🙂

  128. Jane permalink
    March 19, 2014 7:24 am

    It is interesting how some of the more controversial slogans from the march, have been used as a means to dismiss the whole movement by some. Look a bit closer, Walrus, ignore your built in prejudices for a moment. After all, some of us merely care about building an equitable and humanitarian country which also takes a measured response to climate change. Oh, and balancing to budget too.

  129. Dianne permalink
    March 19, 2014 7:59 am

    Chris Murphy’s twitter stream provides a great graph, presented on TV by Alan Kohler, which shows that, compared to the rest of the world the Australian economy was going gangbusters under Labor.

    The green line of growth was almost vertical compared to the those marking the feeble growth of major economies which curled up in the lower right hand corner of the graph like dying caterpillars.

    A similar performance was put in by Australian employment growth. Vertical propulsion again. Soaring over the caterpillars.

    Were we not told on a consistent basis by Abbott, Hockey and certain media commentators that we were all heading for the rocks? Neil may recall.

    Sorry I cannot link. I pad crashes.

  130. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 8:07 am

    ‘After all, some of us merely care about building an equitable and humanitarian country which also takes a measured response to climate change.’

    The country cannot be financially equitable because its a capitalist system (mixed economy) whether under the Coalition or Labor. This is something that will not change.

    We are a humane society, although some of my colleagues here would disagree on asylum seekers, I think its more humane to discourage illegal guest workers and prevent drownings.

    A measured response to climate change is to do nothing, because its natural.

  131. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 8:16 am

    Good morning Di, I think the second graph is the one you are referring to.

    https://www.alankohler.com.au/

    The US anomaly is a talking point.

  132. Walrus permalink
    March 19, 2014 8:43 am

    “Please attempt to get a full picture if who what and why before slamming something you don’t understand….”

    “Full Picture” ?……………………………….how amusing.

    A gigantic banner at the front of a march saying “Fuck Abbott Fuck Democracy” generally gives me a good idea/understanding about who is walking behind that banner.

    Otherwise dont fucking walk or knowingly associate yourself with the banner

    “Walrus, ignore your built in prejudices for a moment. ”

    Well Jane, I admit to having a built in prejudice against advocating that someone shoot Alan Joyce in the back of the head or advising that someone should assassinate Tony Abbott.

    Obviously you are quite comfortable with that.

  133. Dianne permalink
    March 19, 2014 8:44 am

    Thanks Egg but the two graphs I am referring to ain’t there. See Chris Murphy’s twitterings. He is the Sydney lawyer not the manager of INXS.

  134. Dianne permalink
    March 19, 2014 8:50 am

    Walrus – I agree. Placards like that undermine what was a formidable display of public concern. It enables others to trivialize and condemn the Marches. That said, I think marches without political action are pretty pointless. We still went to war in Iraq despite huge public demonstrations.

    Alas I think one needs to influence policy to achieve change. Hard yards.

    Marches are an outward manifestation of public concern. Then what. Everyone goes home.

  135. Tony permalink
    March 19, 2014 9:04 am

    The main gripe of the marchers, as far as i can tell, is they are unhappy with the policies of our democratically elected government. Welcome to the tyrrany of the majority.

  136. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 19, 2014 9:06 am

    “he is fucking racist”

    No. Those who want equality for all, including before the law, are not racists. The racists are those who want to divide society on the basis of race with different laws for different races.

    “It is interesting how some of the more controversial slogans from the march, have been used as a means to dismiss the whole movement by some. “

    You mean at the Carbon Tax rally?

    “After all, some of us merely care about building an equitable and humanitarian country”

    You sound like Lenin.

    “a measured response to climate change”

    Speaking of measured, can you tell me (over on the CO2 thread) the measure by which global temperature will decrease due to our carbon tax?

  137. Tony permalink
    March 19, 2014 9:12 am

    “Marches are an outward manifestation of public concern. Then what. Everyone goes home.”

    Yes. The Skyhooks were on to that …

  138. Dianne permalink
    March 19, 2014 9:21 am

    Ah yes Tony, but those who have concerns about the govt have a democratic right to protest. Whether marches are effective in the long term is the moot point.

  139. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 9:32 am

    Its the same.

  140. Walrus permalink
    March 19, 2014 9:41 am

    Of course you will get massive growth when the Chinese economy is turbocharging yours with an evergrowing demand for your minerals. Just look at the amounts of iron ore and coal (dirty word) that were dug out and exported in INCREASING numbers/tonnages for export over those years all thanks to MASSIVE capital investment by the likes of Woodside, Chevron, BHP Billion and its MA Alliance, RIO, Santos, Origin…………………DO you want me to go on ?

    PLUS MASSIVE borrowimg by a Federal Government feeding /wasteing money on huge amounts of extra labour, bricks and cement to build non economic assets like school halls and pink batts with the flow on effects of then needing extra fireman and electrical trades to put out the fires.

    Yes…………everyone was busy.

    And that adds to GDP

  141. Tony permalink
    March 19, 2014 9:41 am

    “those who have concerns about the govt have a democratic right to protest”

    Yes, they do, and those of us who think it’s a pointless exercise by the side that lost the last election have a right to say so. That’s why we comment on political blogs.

  142. March 19, 2014 10:24 am

    “That’s why we comment on political blogs.”

    I always find it slightly amusing when people employ the royal “we” to add a sense of gravitas to what are basically their own opinions…. 🙂

  143. willrob permalink
    March 19, 2014 10:25 am

    some of you really need to do some homework before you open your mouths, others are just so deep in propaganda they are blind

  144. Dianne permalink
    March 19, 2014 10:31 am

    We agree Reb.

    Walrus – I share some of your views. I think we would all be better informed if politicians did not play around with hard evidence.

    We were doing well. Abbott and Hockey went about saying the govt was hopeless and driving us over the cliff. If they had that graph now they would be crowing.

    I don’t listen to the insults and distortions that pass for political debate in this country.

    Actually the economic policies of both major parties leave me cold.

  145. Tony permalink
    March 19, 2014 10:33 am

    We are not amused.

  146. Tony permalink
    March 19, 2014 10:36 am

    Graphs, statistics …

  147. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 19, 2014 10:49 am

    Forget poor Misty! Here is the murderous consequence of leftist hate-speech directed at banking executives.

  148. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 11:37 am

    ‘We are not amused.’

    * chuckle*

  149. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 11:40 am

    ‘some of you really need to do some homework before you open your mouths, others are just so deep in propaganda they are blind’

    Perhaps.

  150. March 19, 2014 11:44 am

    GIGO

  151. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 19, 2014 11:45 am

    ” Abbott and Hockey went about saying the govt was hopeless and driving us over the cliff.

    You obviously were not around in 2007. Wayne Swan kept going on about the inflation dragon which Costello had unleashed.

    The economic numbers in 2007 were the best for a generation but it did not help John Howard and Swan did not say a good thing about the wonderful economy.

    Just to play devils advocate, you could make an argument that Rudd/Swan maintained our prosperity by putting everything on the Mastercard. We can do that for a little while and then the creditors want their money back.

    Basically facts are irrelevant. people will believe what they want to believe.

  152. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 11:55 am

    ‘people will believe what they want to believe.’

    tru dat

  153. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 19, 2014 12:01 pm

    Yep. Unemployment was at 11% when Keating was PM and he still won the election.

    There is no way a Coalition govt could win an election if they were in govt and unemployment was at 11%. But Labor did.

    Funny how ALP supporters are saying we should vote Labor because the economy is OK. The economy was better in 2007 with unemployment at 4%.

    Let me see?? I bet you Dianne voted Labor in 2007.

  154. Dianne permalink
    March 19, 2014 12:17 pm

    I voted for Keating. He was handsome and funny. Still is I believe.

  155. Dianne permalink
    March 19, 2014 12:20 pm

    Neil – I did vote for Rudd. Got my vote under false pretences.

    I have voted for Ms Informal ever since.

  156. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 19, 2014 12:23 pm

    “GIGO”

    Yep.. Every time my opponents quote stats at me I know they are lying! Me on the other hand….

  157. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 19, 2014 12:33 pm

    Every time my opponents quote stats at me I know they are lying! Me on the other hand….”

    I have never been able to work that out. How come i am right most of the time and the lefties and always wrong??

    Actually on a more serious note, i am getting sick and tired of being on one side of the fence all the time. But there is almost nothing a ALP/Greens supporter says that i agree with.

    What am i to do?? Is everybody mad and i am the only sane one or is it the other way around??

  158. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 12:46 pm

    ‘What am i to do??’

    Join me on top of the fence and practice irony, enjoy the moment.

  159. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 19, 2014 12:50 pm

    Well lefties told me for years that the Howard/Costello govt created trouble for Labor by giving tax cuts every year.

    true, he did and he also left a huge structural deficit in middle class welfare that cannot be removed now without shrieks of throats being cut.

    So some lefties used to tell me Costello did not tax enough. All he did was give tax cuts to the mainly wealthy. Now more recently they have changed their story and tell me he taxed too much.

    Costello’s magician act was in transferring govt debt to private individuals, creating a population suffocating under private debt for what should have been government services paid through taxes. Privatising public services.

    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/13/1052591797280.html

    It is a wonderful sleight of hand. The tax goes back into one pocket and comes out the other as the costs of health care and education are transferred from the Government to the family.

    Rinehart & co could turn out to be responsible for turning everyone against this government. The cannibals are prowling and howling for their taxpayer funded welfare for the wealthy.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-19/rinehart-group-call-to-abolish-tax-in-nt-imants-kins/5330942

    …Yes, they do, and those of us who think it’s a pointless exercise by the side that lost the last election have a right to say so. That’s why we comment on political blogs.

    Funny how things change, only a short while ago, there was much anger, hatred and vitriol directed at the gillard government and the democratic process and result was slammed as illegitimate and unacceptable, mostly by the new PM and his media minders. Now the same people want everyone to simply accept their boy as a result of democratic, majority rule.

  160. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 19, 2014 12:52 pm

    I have never been able to work that out. How come i am right most of the time and the lefties and always wrong??

    A trick of the mind 🙄

  161. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 19, 2014 12:53 pm

    Actually on a more serious note, i am getting sick and tired of being on one side of the fence all the time. But there is almost nothing a ALP/Greens supporter says that i agree with.

    easily fixed, don’t say anything.

  162. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 19, 2014 1:45 pm

  163. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 19, 2014 2:40 pm

    Now, now KL. All the Thomson supporters will tell you that you have to wait until Sinodinos is convicted before he can be rubbished and ridiculed. Isn’t that right?

  164. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 19, 2014 2:43 pm

    Since Armchair has linked to Michael Pascoe, we now know that Pascoe is an ALP supporter.

    And therefore hard to trust.

  165. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 2:51 pm

    Arthur Sinodinos steps down.

  166. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 19, 2014 2:52 pm

    Sinodinos has stepped down as Assistant Treasurer – looking more like Thommo every minute. Will he resign from the party and head to the cross-benches? They will need his vote in the Senate But I suppose they will get to pick his successor when he resigns.

  167. March 19, 2014 3:31 pm

    Stand back watching tons of froth sink to the bottom. Specially love Kneel’s lefty stutter.

    Then there’s Splatters defence of Bolts “one race” crusade.. Seem to remember another bloke that had that idea in a brown shirt… lol

    Frothy Frothy frothy
    All hot and bothered
    Steamy over marches
    Where people actuary go

    Frothy frothy frothy
    nowhere left to wriggle
    Bleating out the mantra stuck
    Lefty Commo Pinko

    Frothy Frothy frothy
    The days are sadly numbered
    The people slowly waking
    To surprises in the cupboard

    Frothy frothy frothy
    Attention now has turned
    To the liars crying wolf
    The right hate lesson learned.

    Frothy Frothy frothy
    Conquer and divide
    Paint all compassion partisan
    As on the other side

    Frothy Frothy Frothy
    What regret made you so mad?
    Was it that your were sold a pup indeed?
    By an immoral lying Cad

  168. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 19, 2014 4:13 pm

    “I voted for Keating. He was handsome and funny

    Well that is a good reason to vote for a politician.

  169. March 19, 2014 4:23 pm

    Well…I wrote this just after the election, and I am not surprised that this has whole March has happened. Withing weeks of being elected the Abbott led government tore about destroying anything and everything that smacked of labour or leftism, regardless of worth or value it seems and throwing out babies and their bath-waters alike. This election was won with the generous help of Murdoch media and they are only continuing to wear their extreme bias on their dirty sleeves. I despair at the state of our media…where now does one go for anything resembling the truth?

    http://truthjoybeauty.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/tony-abbott.html

  170. March 19, 2014 4:48 pm

    “I voted for Keating. He was handsome and funny”
    Well that is a good reason to vote for a politician.

    Well that and he was responsible for modernising the economy, rebuilding the tax system, engaing Asia and has a Legacy of economic and industrial reform that makes the fiberals look like the economic incompetent nobodies they actually are… All piss and wind. All this and good looking to boot, unlike Peacock who is defined by his appropriate name 🙂

    His Legacy speaks for itself, unlike the fiberals? You should Kneel down and kiss his ass in fortuitous gratuity kneely wheely as opposed to get all gooey over Australia’s worst treasurer the mono browed Prime Miniature.

  171. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 19, 2014 4:55 pm

    Well that and he was responsible for modernising the economy

    Too bad he got no good economic numbers to show these reforms actually worked.

    When he was PM he won an election with unemployment at 11%. I guess that was an achievement of sorts.

  172. March 19, 2014 5:04 pm

    ””’assist SPC Ardmona”””

    FFS armchair, are you actually advocating that taxpayers `should` have tipped million$ into Coke`s coffers.?

  173. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 19, 2014 5:05 pm

    I like Keating. The 1993 victory was one for the ages. It was a great election night party, sitting up the back of the room, keeping my head down as the coalition voters chuckled among themselves in anticipation of victory, watching the votes roll in .. and then watching the coalition supporters slowly fade away as the real celebrations began. I was such a true believer then, I’m much younger than that now.

  174. armchair opionator permalink
    March 19, 2014 5:26 pm

    No teabag, not at all.
    But I did run out and buy SPC products to keep aussie workers in jobs.
    Apparently lots of others did too.
    I continue to buy a couple of cans of there b/beans each week.

  175. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 5:27 pm

    ‘I despair at the state of our media…where now does one go for anything resembling the truth?’

    Not the ABC, that’s for sure.

  176. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 5:31 pm

    ‘I was such a true believer then, I’m much younger than that now.’

    Me too, when Hawke was elected I found myself in a pub with Sydney Uni students and they were pretty glum.

    I was quietly elated.

  177. Manwithamouth permalink
    March 19, 2014 6:47 pm

    Egg, I think you might be retarded. Do you really believe that ABC is full of shit and 7,9 and 10 are truthful and unbiased? Do tell.

  178. March 19, 2014 6:57 pm

    you`re wastin`ya time manwithamouth,

    dumpty is a mindless corporate troll that only regurgitates ipa and bolt approved teabag talking-points, and never thinks for his/her/its-self

  179. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 7:47 pm

    ‘Egg, I think you might be retarded. Do you really believe that ABC is full of shit’

    Aunty’s news and current affairs are reasonably balanced, but there is this elephant in the room which outweighs any credibility.

  180. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 7:59 pm

    ‘and never thinks for his/her/its-self’

    Hmmm ….

  181. March 19, 2014 8:52 pm

    I was such a true believer then, I’m much younger than that now.

    As was I at the victory party, that was on great Australian PM by his legacy. Kneel don’t embarrass yourself.

  182. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 19, 2014 9:07 pm

    Keating was a disaster.

    Oh that is right. Hawke/Keating spent 13 hard years reforming the economy and they were just about to get the benefit of these reforms and then Howard won in 1996 and got the credit.

    All i remember of Keating is home loan interest rates of 18% and 30 months of double digit unemployment. Flogging off Qantas, Commonwealth Bank, CSL and using the proceeds for recurrent spending. Not paying off debt.

    How come if these ALP reforms were so great, Labor cannot boast and good economic numbers from 1983-1996??

    Oh yeah we also lost our AAA credit rating under Hawke.

    It took SIX surplus budgets by Costello to get our AAA back. And that is something Labor could never do.

  183. egg permalink
    March 19, 2014 9:16 pm

    You’re right again Neil.

  184. Walrus permalink
    March 19, 2014 10:43 pm

    Quick Quick Lefties , Greens and Commos

    Time to get outraged !

    Lateline is about to do a segment on the Future of the Renewable Energy Target.

    Get over to ABC now so you can wake really really fucking angry tomorrow

  185. March 19, 2014 11:07 pm

    All i remember

    I what you want to. Keating inherited a huge deficit from Howard, made the hard decisions, passed and enacted the legislation and set Costello up for the a period of utter lazy wasteful stupidity which included selling 96 billion dollars worth of assets. Kneel and Egg write history how you like, the legacy is legislation not rhetorical nonsense.

  186. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 19, 2014 11:15 pm

    Oh i forgot to mention.

    Hawke/Keating deregulated the banking industry resulting in a number of failures. I was in Geelong when Pyramid Building Society went under. Also Tricontinental. State Banks of Victoria and SA went under.

    Victoria almost went bankrupt under Cain/Kirner with keating in charge.

    And in the late 1980’s we lost our AAA credit rating.

    Costello introduced APRA. It meant we did not go down the subprime road that overseas banking went.

    The Hawke/Keating years were not that great.

  187. March 20, 2014 12:03 am

    “With great change comes great responsibility but change, like the wind is an inevitable force spreading the seed of human adaptation in the face of stagnant complacency”

  188. Guitarmatt89 permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:35 am

    Of course society is angry with the liberals, they have never stood for the people, only wish to fill their own full pockets with more money that should of been fairly shared around.

  189. March 20, 2014 6:51 am

    Reblogged this on Truth Joy Beauty and commented:
    Here’s the post that inspired my On journalism post.

  190. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 7:30 am

    ‘Of course society is angry with the liberals’

    Only in your mind sweetheart.

  191. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 7:48 am

    ‘Actually, we don’t need to talk hypotheticals. Remember the hysteria from Labor, the ABC and Fairfax newspapers over a “ditch the witch” sign at a rally against Julia Gillard? Where are those critics now, when we’re hearing not just insults but truly vicious and threatening language?

    ‘Kennedy’s talk of shooting Joyce was ignored by the ABC and every Fairfax newspaper bar the Newcastle Herald, which merely noted it was “perhaps surprising”.

    ‘The ABC published 43 of the rallies’ signs in one story, but omitted all savage or threatening ones that might discredit the protest.’

    Bolt / Daily Terror

  192. Walrus permalink
    March 20, 2014 8:47 am

    “The ABC published 43 of the rallies’ signs in one story, but omitted all savage or threatening ones that might discredit the protest.”

    Yep

    Bias also extends to what might not be reported in a particular news item or wilfully censored from a news report

  193. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 20, 2014 8:49 am

    But, but egg you know that the ABC doesn’t tilt to the left. It is just quality journalism pure and simple. It certainly doesn’t waste its time telling people what they don’t need to know. That is the province of the evil Murdochracy.

    Imagine the disaster if people had uncensored access to non-approved facts, or, Gaia forbid, different points of view. They might even start to think for themselves! Then the whole progressive enterprise will be completely fucked! That is precisely why the Finkelfuckwit proposals need to implemented NOW!

  194. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 20, 2014 9:13 am

    Bed Pann, “I was such a true believer then, I’m much younger than that now.” was a reference to Dylan’s My Back Pages. It has a few tips for young leftists, being the point at which Dylan waved off the hard left zealots who were exploiting his talent.

    He sings of his earlier naïvité:

    Using ideas as my maps
    “We’ll meet on edges, soon,” said I
    Proud ’neath heated brow
    Ah, but I was so much older then
    I’m younger than that now

    Half-wracked prejudice leaped forth
    “Rip down all hate,” I screamed
    Lies that life is black and white
    Spoke from my skull.”

    And for those who use “equality” as a meaningless slogan:

    “Equality,” I spoke the word
    As if a wedding vow.
    Ah, but I was so much older then,
    I’m younger than that now.”

    He moves on from the passionate certainties of a youthful sloganeer who thinks he knows it all to a more thoughtful, less certain, independent thinker:

    Good and bad, I define these terms
    Quite clear, no doubt, somehow
    Ah, but I was so much older then
    I’m younger than that now”

    Dylan’s reference to the fiery radical ideologues of his day as “corpse evangelists” is absolutely brilliant.

    Put simply the truly great songwriters keep on thinking for themselves and go beyond the firebrand partisan phase that perpetually juvenile hacks are mired in to the bitter end, forever “Proud ’neath heated brow” but incapable of independent thought.

  195. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 9:33 am

    It seems watermelons and leftoids are ‘incapable of independent thought.’

  196. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 11:09 am

    “The ABC published 43 of the rallies’ signs in one story, but omitted all savage or threatening ones that might discredit the protest.”

    Is that because thousands of signs weren’t savage or threatening? And only a very small minority were.

    Funnily enough, bolt is complaining that the very small number of stories acknowledging something was actually happening, didn’t actually acknowledge the very small portion of a very large story that he wants to focus on.

    Focus on this bolt

    You’re a dickhead too.

  197. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 11:19 am

    ‘Australia has a long cultural history of vulgarity in the appropriate context.’

    Morley

  198. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 11:26 am

    To add some “context” to a very out of “context” snippet above

    While the context of the surrounding message is always more important than any subjectively vulgar sound-bite, the ‘RESIGN, DICKHEAD’ banner is not a symptom of Australian culture so much as it is a result of a political landscape poisoned by the spiteful, ignorant rhetoric of the Andrew Bolts of our country

    Morley 😉

  199. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 20, 2014 11:40 am

    Lefties who call Bolt spiteful really need to get a mirror. They’ll find plenty of spite even with the most fleeting of glances.

  200. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 11:42 am

    ‘…. as it is a result of a political landscape poisoned by the spiteful, ignorant rhetoric of the Andrew Bolts of our country’

    He has his flaws, being only human, but within a decade I predict he will be receiving accolades for his service to society.

  201. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 11:43 am

    Lefties who call Bolt spiteful really need to get a mirror.

    It works the same inverted don’t you think?

  202. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 20, 2014 11:52 am

    In a word yes, Bolt does seem to have a spiteful streak at times. At least some of his posts strike me that way. Most don’t. He would be much more effective if he toned it down a bit.

    I defend Bolt here, not because I agree with everything he says but because the criticisms of him are completely unhinged and rarely deal with his arguments. And a lot of what Bolt does say is merely drawing attention to facts and arguments the ABC studiously ignores.

  203. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 20, 2014 11:55 am

    Bolt seems to be quite good at getting the left all excited, which adds to his marketability and probably his income.

    I don’t think he attempts to understand the sense of dispossession of indigenous and marginalised people, but other than that I don’t take much notice.
    ———————
    Some of the offensive commentary from the March in March crowd should be more widely condemned.

    Advocacy for “shooting Joyce in the back of the head” seems more violent than the “Ditch the Witch” stuff that outraged Gillard barrackers.

    Is there any condemnation of this from organisers? Does the union hack that said it remain employed by unions?

  204. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 11:59 am

    I agree with morley

    The political poison started with howard, he divided the population in every way that he could. Abbott is an even cruder version of howard. All an import of the ugly politics played by the teabags and repugs in the US along with the libs own particular brand of nasty as dreamed up by crosby and textor. It’s been like a political version of a mad max movie ever since. Our politicians can’t get any lower and they deserve no respect or admiration from anyone. Calling tony abbott the ‘leader’ of the nation’ demeans all of us.

    Just for those who look at life through a magnifying glass

    Bad comma: George Brandis sweats the small stuff:
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/bad-comma-george-brandis-sweats-the-small-stuff

    BTW, pretty sure that I heard matty corman say “hyper bowl” on radio this am, wonder if that will be picked up by the murdochracy for nation wide ridicule [I won’t hold my breath].

  205. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 12:04 pm

    Some of the offensive commentary from the March in March crowd should be more widely condemned.

    More widely condemned than the actual reporting of the even?

    Advocacy for “shooting Joyce in the back of the head” seems more violent than the “Ditch the Witch” stuff that outraged Gillard barrackers.

    Did you see the opposition leader or any from the party in front of those signs?

    Is there any condemnation of this from organisers?

    They specifically asked to be respectful from the start. Considering the very small number of hateful signage, I would say they were largely successful

  206. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 12:06 pm

    …The total disconnect between what might be termed citizen-initiated reportage on social media and mainstream coverage of the weekend’s protests was in no way mitigated by the scramble of the MSM on Monday to play catch up.
    Stepping away from the all of the issues captured by a thousand different placards on Saturday and Sunday, the systemic failure to recognise the significance of the story speaks to a deeper fear I have about the news media, which is not that we might die out as Google gorges itself on the last scraps of our advertising based business model… but that it won’t matter.
    That you won’t care, and that there will be no reason to care…

    Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/comment/blogs/blunt-instrument/will-you-miss-us-when-were-gone-20140317-34xtk.html#ixzz2wScJaFtb

  207. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 12:07 pm

    ‘The political poison started with howard, he divided the population in every way that he could.’

    Gillard did a better job of it.

  208. Sparta of Phoenix AZ USA permalink
    March 20, 2014 12:12 pm

    LMAO! I must admit I am really behind on the context of this post even after reading it but this is a rather entertaining exchange! This blog is still one of my favorites! Hahahahah

  209. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 12:14 pm

    The assistant health minister who cannot agree with his own dept’s policy.

    Doctors reject amended contracts:
    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/doctors-reject-amended-contracts-20140320-353j5.html

  210. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 20, 2014 12:21 pm

    I see LRO.

    The message is unimportant unless a politician is photographed with it!

    Now, when there was a boycott of Alan Jones over his poor taste comment, that was fine.

    So it Getup organising a boycott of the (union) sponsors of the murder advocating union hack?

  211. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 12:27 pm

    Hi Sparta, we stopped the boats but they are still coming by plane.

  212. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 12:28 pm

    I don’t think he attempts to understand the sense of dispossession of indigenous and marginalised people, but other than that I don’t take much notice.

    deliberately so, gotta defend white superiority and colonialism, don’t forget that before the lib/nats hates muslims and asylum seekers they hated the aborigines, loved to whistle to the racists then. I remember saying [when the muslim bashing started] “at least they are leaving the aborigines alone”

    it’s all bread and butter to the bolter. no point getting all high and mighty, dripping with the shame of hypocrisy over being called a racist when your life’s work as a shock jock in print has been to race bait.

    BTW ricky, bolt has written a book hasn’t he, he wrote “still not sorry” which was all about not apologising to aborigines for years of slurs and encouraging race hate. I don’t think it was a best seller but it was flogged by his cronies [IPA, Menzies House, news corpse etc]

  213. March 20, 2014 12:36 pm

    Any person who publicly threatens or encourages the assassination of their political/ideological opposites does a huge disservice to their own cause. They effectively neuter any legitimate criticisms which they have, by granting free cheapshots to the likes of Bolt et al.

    When Bolt’s own vague incitings are found within the justificatory manifesto of such luminary figures as Anders Behring Breivik though…well, let’s just pretend that never happened; and even if it did, it’s not the fault of rightist ideologues coz he was a ‘madman’.

    Apologists smell suspicious.

  214. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 12:45 pm

    The message is unimportant unless a politician is photographed with it!

    It is more a case of the message being amplified depending on who stands in front of it.

    It also reflects on the person standing in front of it.

    “The standard you walk past is the standard you accept”. – Lieutenant General David Morrison.

    And bolt supported one, but decries the other. what a hypocrite

  215. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 12:48 pm

    Gillard did a better job of it.

    Can you show where the inciting came from that source?

  216. March 20, 2014 1:00 pm

    Yes, at the moment the Abbottlickers are kinda acting like they think their wankclub is destined to hold power in perpetuity.

    More fool them.

    Bolt cheering on the reignition of his pet fetish ‘culture wars’ is shortsighted…& I’d have thought he was smart enough to recognise the merit of treading gently & at least pretending at moderate behaviour. Then again, his poxridden underlings need to be thrown a bone every now & again to prevent them from wondering why their boy isn’t going in harder, sinking boats, hanging criminals & locking up protesters.

  217. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:00 pm

    “When Bolt’s own vague incitings are found within the justificatory manifesto of such luminary figures as Anders Behring Breivik though”

    Do you actually think that is a logical argument – that because a madman references you, you are thereby tarnished? Just checking before I waste time getting a list of other similarly tarnished miscreants. I wonder who inspired the Unabomber or the Red Brigades or Pol Pot? Apparently Brievik was a big fan of World of Warcraft and played Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for training purposes.

  218. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:09 pm

    Do we need to resurrect bolter’s own special day? june 3rd, well not his very own day, he shares it with eddie mabo!

  219. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:10 pm

    ‘Can you show where the inciting came from that source?’

    She said the weather was going to get warmer, which created a huge division throughout society.

  220. March 20, 2014 1:10 pm

    I think plenty of people give Bolt’s anti(Islamic)immigration tirades waaaay more gravity than they deserve. Obviously, Breivik is some kind of calculating madman, but he cites his own motivations in black & white. Luckily, the Breiviks of the world are an absolute minority.
    I only mention it in light of Bolt’s history of resorting to ‘What Is It With Teh Left & Violence!!!’ at every opportunity.
    As walrus said above…Bias also extends to what might not be reported…or opportunistically overlooked. It’s hardly an exclusive misvirtue of Teh Left. But you already know this.

    Bolt’s initial reaction to the Utoya Massacre was to blame Islamic Terrorism & launch into a preemptory ‘I Tol You So’ with regard to immigration in that part of Europe. Says heaps.

    I’m well aware that the left has plenty of its own crooks, murderers & dangerous ideologues…but then I never tried to claim that nutcases who kill people are doing it entirely due to polemic prompting. Beware of extremists.

  221. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:13 pm

    She said the weather was going to get warmer

    Actually, if memory serves, she only repeated the assertions made by scientists, assertions that have proven to be accurate

    which created a huge division throughout society.

    Actually, it only incited blinkered radicals who had already left the plantation.

  222. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:13 pm

    it’s been 3 mths now

    and

  223. March 20, 2014 1:18 pm

    I must say, right or wrong, the ALP standing in the way of repealing the carbon tax won’t be a net positive for them.

    One thing AbbottCorp was very clear on when they went to the polls was that they’d be doing that post haste.

  224. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:19 pm

    hehe

  225. March 20, 2014 1:20 pm

    Then again, I expected the SA ALP to get deservedly thumped last weekend…so what the fuck would I know?! 😯 🙂

  226. March 20, 2014 1:22 pm

    Journalist/polemicist/FoxtardNews disseminator/Pied Piper of Conservatarded Simpletons.

    Potato=potatoe

  227. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:26 pm

    One thing AbbottCorp was very clear on when they went to the polls was that they’d be doing that post haste.

    Doesn’t matter, he still has to get it through the senate where the greens and labor voters expect their party to stick with the policies they took to an election.

    Isn’t that what the lib lovers say is “democracy in action”?

    did abbott & co allow the labor party to implement their policies unhindered? He wasn’t called Dr No for nothing.

  228. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:27 pm

    ‘assertions that have proven to be accurate’

    Care to step out to the back room (CO2 and You) where we can continue this discussion in private.

  229. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:27 pm

    they are nice bright smilies toilet, where’d you get them?

  230. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:33 pm

    Bolt cheering on the reignition of his pet fetish ‘culture wars’ is shortsighted…& I’d have thought he was smart enough to recognise the merit of treading gently & at least pretending at moderate behaviour.

    That’s not the plan toilet, the warriors and the government are going at it, hard & fast. Too much too soon, which is also why the marches are happening, this society don’t like rapists.

  231. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:38 pm

    armchair opinionator, I note that Professor Langton has apologized to bolt for upsetting him, but not for calling him a racist.

    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/pdf/Marcia_Langton_on_Bolt.pdf

    The nature of my apology
    Marcia Langton
    I apologised for causing offence to him, because he stated that I should apologise to him because I had ‘hurt his feelings’ and offended him. I did not apologise for my beliefs or my intention of trying to explain my beliefs. It was not my intention to cause offence to Andrew Bolt. Andrew Bolt as a newspaper column, a television program and a blog site, and ought to be capable of a robust debate, that is a dialogue rather than a monologue.

    …………..

    I believe that his obsessive writing about the colour of the skin of particular Aboriginal people is malicious and cowardly.

    ………

    He believes that he is not racist, and I believe that he is sincere in this belief.

  232. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:47 pm

    Care to step out to the back room (CO2 and You) where we can continue this discussion in private.

    You want me to leave the plantation with you? Life’s to short

  233. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 1:53 pm

    I note that Professor Langton has apologized to bolt for upsetting him, but not for calling him a racist.

    that’s good lro
    she shouldn’t either, he has the court conviction to prove it.

    I don’t think she should have apologised at all, but I think she was opting for the empathy and humanity that he and his supporters don’t show aborigines, being the better person and sorry to have hurt another person’s feelings. No-one can deny that he was found guilty of race baiting & hating, not even the bolter, so he has to take to his sick bed in a fit of the vapours to garner support for himself and to keep pressure on abbott & brandis to repeal the discrimination act when other groups are lobbying to keep it [jews etc].

  234. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 2:02 pm

    ‘You want me to leave the plantation with you? Life’s to short’

    Noice to ‘ave yer back, comrade.

  235. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 2:06 pm

    he has the court conviction to prove it.

    This one?

    Finally, to the matter of whether Bolt is a racist. The judge was specifically asked to address this when Bolt and the HWT urged him to exonerate them of racist intent.

    This he did [para 458]:

    “Mr Bolt and HWT contended that the terms of any declaration made should expressly state that the conduct in contravention of s 18C ‘did not constitute and was not based on racial hatred or racial vilification’. It is contended that the inclusion of these words will facilitate the educative effect of the declaration made and contribute to informed debate. I do not regard the inclusion of the words suggested as appropriate.”

    http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/but-andrew-bolt-is-a-racist-in-black-and-white,6292

  236. March 20, 2014 2:48 pm

    Put simply the truly great songwriters keep on thinking for themselves and go beyond the firebrand partisan

    on the money Splat. Bob is a bit of a hero of mine, A complete prick but one of the greatest songwriters on the planet. In the end we all gotta “Serve somebody”

    I’m in the country at the moment on a recording and writing sabbatical in a little plywood church in a field. Its all about the subtle of provocation, not to antagonize, rather to think. . Preach to people and you will get return fire, make people think and they will tell you what they think..that is discussion, that is the joy of perspective where the real magic is…somewhere in the middle between problem and answer is truth.

    I met an 84 year old retired rear admiral the other day at a gig who joined the navy at 15 and built 5 ships as an engineer (a real one) figure that one out. Turns out my band mates dad was one of the most senior sailors in Aus… Wow what a story. what perspective, what a great Australian and beautiful bloke… Spent the whole gig, watching him smiling tapping his cane.

  237. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 2:56 pm

    Its all about the subtle of provocation, not to antagonize, rather to think.

    The Boss of provocation

    Now Tom said “Mom, wherever there’s a cop beatin’ a guy
    Wherever a hungry newborn baby cries
    Where there’s a fight ‘gainst the blood and hatred in the air
    Look for me Mom I’ll be there
    Wherever there’s somebody fightin’ for a place to stand
    Or decent job or a helpin’ hand
    Wherever somebody’s strugglin’ to be free
    Look in their eyes Mom you’ll see me.”

  238. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 3:01 pm

    thanks for that reminder lro
    it’s good to remember that the court case was specifically about his racist intent and errors of fact. ‘Free speech’ [which is still protected] was a deliberate diversion and is the media’s reponse and tactic with every effort to curtail their abuse of power.

    They think they should be able to say whatever they like and have no oversight or regulation, no matter what harm they cause or lies they peddle. Same with the finkelstein r/v, the outcome was that the media needed regulation. instantly they were all outraged about free speech which was never the issue, it was their constant abuses and their failure to self regulate.

    [finkelstein’s report]“There are no powerful groups in society that can come along to governments or anybody and say ‘we can do what we like when we like and there’s nothing you should do about it’.”

    He described this attitude as “a very surprising approach.”

  239. LeftRightOut permalink
    March 20, 2014 3:06 pm

    He described this attitude as “a very surprising approach.”

    It appears to be the norm these days 😦

  240. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 20, 2014 3:47 pm

    complete prick

    Yes, I perfer those types too.

  241. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 4:08 pm

    nice to see the maritime safety authority and navy proudly doing what they signed up to do, professionally reporting on events at sea rather than packing asylum seekers like sardines into a locked plastic bubble and sending them back off to sea without any means to defend themselves.

  242. March 20, 2014 4:35 pm

    #Mystery Mail

    Twitter`s (usually junk) mail has said this tweet is `popular`, l only got the `url` not the tweet text, so let`s see how twitter went.

  243. March 20, 2014 4:38 pm

    twitter tends to exaggerate

  244. Feed My Furture Dinner and Fly Walrus Airlines Straight into the Indian Ocean permalink
    March 20, 2014 4:41 pm

    It’s a plane………………….It’s a plane …………..!

  245. March 20, 2014 4:43 pm

    ”””””””””’He believes that he is not racist, and I believe that he is sincere in this belief.””””””’

    Good to see the penny has dropped with somebody, l knew `our` teabags were not bright enough to find it. 😆

    #welcome to the `trash` LeftRightOut 🙂

  246. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 20, 2014 5:08 pm

    “Preach to people and you will get return fire, make people think and they will tell you what they think..that is discussion, that is the joy of perspective where the real magic is…somewhere in the middle between problem and answer is truth.”

    I think that is true as general rule. Occasionally being direct works – Dylan’s ‘Positively 4th Street’ for example. I sometimes think Billy Bragg is accusing me when he sings “You’re a dedicated swallower of fascism”.

    Any way I hope you are having fun and come up with some good material while you are away.

    I’ve just spent a week listening to Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan – it starts with Blowin’ In The Wind, Girl From The North Country and Masters Of War, and then gets better with Hard Rain, Don’t Think Twice and the rest. Unbelievable album.

    If I had a clue I would offer a view on songwriting, but I haven’t. I can only look in awe when I’m blown away by great writing. Maybe one day I’ll work out how genius works, how, say, Billy Bragg came up with the words to Levi Stubb’s Tears. And the music.

  247. March 20, 2014 5:17 pm

    ””’One thing AbbottCorp was very clear on when they went to the polls was that they’d be doing that post haste.””'(dunny)

    .

    ”””Doesn’t matter, he still has to get it through the senate where the greens and labor voters expect their party to stick with the policies they took to an election.””(armchair)

    .

    Teabags may recall last year, #Go-Watermelon and how teabags Laughed and laughed when their mr-rabbit managed to slide into position, aided and abetted by Joolya`s lot.

    Teabags may also recall, l don`t like either `team` and would be quite happy for mr-rabbit to be a `lame-duck-zombie` flapping about, and not being able to pass anything.

    #Go-Clive 😆 😆 😆

  248. Feed My Future Dinner and Fly Walrus Airlines Straight into the Indian Ocean permalink
    March 20, 2014 5:21 pm

    How is Tony Abbott

    First he visits drought stricken areas and it starts to rain on his arrival

    Then he tells the RAAF they have to go looking for a missing Jet Liner in the Southern Indian Ocean and 24 hours later it looks like they have found it

    Is there anything this man cannot do ?

  249. March 20, 2014 5:31 pm

    ””’Is there anything this man cannot do ?””’

    pass legislation

  250. March 20, 2014 5:32 pm

    look and learn teabags

  251. March 20, 2014 5:36 pm

    ””’Is there anything this man cannot do ?””’

    govern for all

  252. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 5:38 pm

    Is there anything this man cannot do ?

    speak properly

  253. March 20, 2014 5:57 pm

    ”””””””””””””’
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/cost-of-abbott-governments-orange-lifeboats-to-tow-back-asylum-seeker-trebles-to-75-million-20140320-355ci.html
    ”””””””””””””’

    Yeah, another couple of billion$ taxpayer chucked on the bonfire,

    l was trying to point this out pre-election, that the teabags and alp are both equally wasteful in the pursuit of bastardizing boat-people.

  254. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 6:22 pm

    yeah, reasonable people know that teabags but some think it is a good idea no matter how much the cost. For them the racism outweighs the economic lunacy.

  255. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 20, 2014 6:31 pm

    “wow, look at the cost, this is madness!

    We are spending $1B more per year than we did under Howard locking up all these boat people.

    The ALP/Greens have the record for the most men, women and children asylum seekers locked up and i believe it costs about $100,000/year to house a boat person.

    Now the boats have stopped we can start taking refugees from UNHCR camps like we did under Howard.

    Much fairer and much cheaper.

    There were only 6 boat people in detention before the Pacific Solution was abolished.

  256. March 20, 2014 6:56 pm

    “they are nice bright smilies toilet, where’d you get them?”

    I blame wordpress! 😉

    I just pressed the same keys as always.

    “Doesn’t matter, he still has to get it through the senate ”

    Yes, but that won’t be a problem in a few short months.

  257. March 20, 2014 7:08 pm

    it sounds like dunny is swallowing dumpty`s double-diss jizz

  258. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 7:56 pm

    I don’t think Abbott’s got the political or physical guts, to chance a DD, he’ll wait for the senate change and give away lots of hard earned taxpayer $$$ to clivey’s mob. He owes a huge debt to gina for all the financial support and that must be paid out in billions, then there’s uncle rupert working overtime to make him look less of a dickhead, how much is that worth?

  259. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 8:27 pm

    ‘I don’t think Abbott’s got the political or physical guts, to chance a DD, he’ll wait for the senate change’

    I strongly disagree, if the independents don’t play ball then Abbott will go to a double D. Two issue will form the trigger, a gas tax and Qantas sale.

    Clives mob would be the big losers in a DD, so a dose of Realpolitik is called for.

  260. March 20, 2014 8:37 pm

    keep cheer`in dumpty, mr-rabbit`s double-diss won`t be ignored by all those `leftoid` marchers teabag-media has ignored,

    or all those `ignored` voters from these dodgey `lost` votes

    #Go-Watermelon #Go-Clive

  261. March 20, 2014 8:41 pm

    sinodino is also helping the `leftoids` forget about their `thomson` shame dumpty

  262. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 20, 2014 8:43 pm

    “leftoid` marchers teabag-media has ignored,

    Is this really true?? I saw it mentioned in lots of places.

  263. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 8:53 pm

    ‘mr-rabbit`s double-diss won`t be ignored’ by the msm, even aunty would be forced to show balance on the triggers.

    But as I said previously, Clive’s mob will probably cave-in to the monk’s demands and avoid a DD.

  264. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 8:55 pm

    sinodino is also helping the `leftoids` forget about their `thomson` shame dumpty

    yeah, $20,000,000 [and $100,000 for 50 hrs work] from taxpayers while a minister sounds a lot worse than $25,000 while a union secretary [even if it was…eek, horror, prostitutes!].

    Just reminded people that the gravy train is chockers, there’s standing room only and by the time it gets to us it’s only chugging along and too full to stop at the station.

  265. March 20, 2014 9:15 pm

    ”””’eek, horror, prostitutes!”””

    come on armchair, they are much more honest about when they bend over and for `how-much`, compared to anything in canberra and `free-trade`arse-fcuking

    #drama-queen 🙂

  266. Tony permalink
    March 20, 2014 9:16 pm

    Why did The Media ignore March in March?

    Because, this …

  267. March 20, 2014 9:24 pm

    ”””””’Clive’s mob will probably cave-in to the monk’s demands and avoid a DD”””””’

    Clive’s mob would probably Love to have the opportunity to scream about cheated voters, dodgey electioneering, shonkey, no-idea LibNat administration, boat-people racism, wasteful spending on gulags in a double-diss,

    #Clive is not scared to go on Qandaland either.

  268. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 9:47 pm

    Clive has formed a lose coalition and if push came to shove the new senators will allow the bills to pass.

  269. March 20, 2014 9:55 pm

    “it sounds like dunny is swallowing dumpty`s double-diss jizz”

    Hardly…more like you can’t recognise looming inevitability.

  270. March 20, 2014 9:56 pm

    ie. “he’ll wait for the senate change and give away lots of hard earned taxpayer $$$ to clivey’s mob.”

    It’s not rocket science.

  271. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 20, 2014 10:09 pm

    “boat-people racism”

    So i am a racist am i??

    I think it is more about fairness. Under Howard we took our refugees from UNHCR camps.

    Did you see the guy who was murdered on Manus Island was here because he could not a job in his chosen profession. He was an architect in Iran and could not get a job. Furthermore he was sent home to be buried. Does not sound like a refugee to me but more like an economic immigrant. However i don’t know the full story.

    And why is the racist term used so much?? Did John Howard racially screen our immigrants and asylum seekers??

    According to you he must have. Did Howard only take white immigrants and asylum seekers??

  272. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 10:15 pm

    I reckon clivey will run rings around the monk when it comes to ‘negotiating’, monk will throw everything except his own superannuation & pension at him.

  273. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 20, 2014 10:17 pm

    must be off, night duty awaits 😦
    have a nice night all.

  274. March 20, 2014 10:19 pm

    Mr-Rabbit is a dud. He was a dud when dealing himself out of Oakshot and Windsor votes, Mr-Rabbit likely to repeat this with Clive. Mr-Rabbit won`t win over this ex-teabag either.

    #Ex-teabags don`t like Mr-Rabbit

  275. egg permalink
    March 20, 2014 10:39 pm

    “We would like the Parliament to respect the will of the people,” Greg Hunt said a short time after the vote.

    “And my hope and my belief is that if this Parliament will not do it, the new Senate in the first two weeks after July has given all the indications that they will respect the mandate given by the Australian people.”

  276. March 20, 2014 10:42 pm

    Clive is the fly doing back-strokes in Mr-Rabbits soup. #Go-Clive

  277. Tony permalink
    March 20, 2014 10:44 pm

    Making predictions is for mugs.

  278. Tony permalink
    March 20, 2014 10:48 pm

    “#Go-Clive”

    Unsurprisingly, your enemy’s enemy is your friend.

    #superficialbuffoonbarracker

  279. March 20, 2014 10:59 pm

    superficialbuffoonbarracker`osy, have l `ever` claimed Mr-Rabbit was ever anything but a dud.? #Go-Clive #Go-Watermelon

  280. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 8:31 am

    Mugs Game

    ‘Constitutional experts have said that any double dissolution election called before the new Senate takes effect from July would be likely to be subject to a high court challenge, and double dissolution elections also give minor parties a greater chance of election because a lower quota is required.’

    Taylor / Guardian

  281. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 21, 2014 9:33 am

    “boat-people racism”

    Like when you lure people into boats so they can drown? It doesn’t matter if your policies kill lots of people, just so long as they make you feel self-righteous.

    Leftist do-gooders are the biggest killers the world has ever seen. Modern leftism was born of the blood-spattered guillotine, went for broke with bloody revolutions that inflicted totalitarian regimes on the world, some of which are still going strong. Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union there is more of an evolutionary approach to the centralisation of power, but the signs are there for all to see. Underpants Conroy crossed a red line (so to speak) by trying to impose government censorship of news organisations. For that alone he should get a bullet in the back of the head – oh wait! I can’t say that – the ABC might publicise my vicious streak (unless it thinks I’m a unionist).

  282. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 3:30 pm

    * bump *

  283. Walrus permalink
    March 21, 2014 3:53 pm

    Where is everybody today ?????????????????

  284. Walrus permalink
    March 21, 2014 4:00 pm

    Why was the March in March ignored………….?

    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/march-in-march-two-sides-to-the-story-we-didnt-run-20140321-357tg.html

  285. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 21, 2014 4:07 pm

    What gets me is those people were ready to March and say Abbott was the worst PM in history the day after Abbott was elected.

    They waited 6 months just so it would not look so staged.

  286. March 21, 2014 4:37 pm

    Everything that goes in through your eyeholes just serves to confirm your granite like pre-existing bias. Hey, Neil.
    No matter what it is, the reinterpretation prism in your brain seems to efficiently repackage it so that it fits neatly at the focal point of your painfully monocular worldview. It’s so naïve it’s almost ‘cute’…like watching a two year old use a car’s cigarette lighter as cherry orange lipstick.

  287. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 21, 2014 4:44 pm

    Toilet

    I believe almost nothing an ALP supporter says. It makes me almost blind to Coalition faults.

    Those people would be protesting if Abbott solved cancer. They would be saying he took to long.

  288. March 21, 2014 4:54 pm

    sbs1, #pbs-news-hour,

    our favorite westbro crank fred phelps died today aged 84,

    he is now with his dog

    #teabags

  289. March 21, 2014 5:02 pm

    ”””Where is everybody today ????”””’

    considering the phelps news blubbers, many are probably at the

    `gone to dog newtown party rostrum`

  290. Walrus permalink
    March 21, 2014 5:03 pm

    “….our favorite westbro crank fred phelps died today aged 84, ”

    Yep

    Certainly a day to party and dance upon that c**ts grave.

    The World is a much better place without the c**t.

  291. March 21, 2014 5:07 pm

    Fully agree blubbers.

    Anybody checked the Limited-News borg-blogs, my bet is the hivemind will sing phelps praises,

    #Mandy-D won`t be able to help herself.

  292. Dianne permalink
    March 21, 2014 5:12 pm

    Neil – I think the ‘almost’ is superfluous to meaning.

  293. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 5:14 pm

    I believe nothing neil says, the decepticon is programmed to blurt lib propaganda. Nothing else computes,

    Where is everybody today ?????????????????

    night shift, just got up & drinking morning coffee, easing slowly into this day in morbid anticipation of another night shift 😦

  294. Walrus permalink
    March 21, 2014 5:20 pm

    “……..easing slowly into this day in morbid anticipation of another night shift”

    Which reminds me…………… Doesn’t Mr. Thomson get sentenced next week.

    And Williamson’s must be soon too.

    Have a nice shift Kitty. I’ll spare you a thought whilst I devour my pizza and a few cold ones on the lounge tonight wrestling with First World Problems like whether I watch the baseball or Souths Rabbitohs Vs West Tigers .

  295. Walrus permalink
    March 21, 2014 5:28 pm

    Are there any pointy headed tech heads around ??????

    Is this a software problem or a hardware problem ?

    I just bought a $450 Acer laptop for an organization I am associated with and the “@” sign which is above the “2” Key actually comes up with “ instead of @.

    And the “ Key comes up as @.

    So the 2 Keys are arse about.

    Just wondering if it needs to go back to the shop or whether a phone call and download from Acer can fix it

  296. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 5:31 pm

    hehe, that is how it should be walrus
    In my experience, when darkness comes, the night walkers appear with the restless energy of the mentally and physically impaired!
    I think toilet regularly walks through the night in the creative pursuit of ‘making things’ 🙂

  297. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 5:40 pm

    Just wondering if it needs to go back to the shop or whether a phone call and download from Acer can fix it

    Have you turned it off and then on again? 🙂

    I did a quick google and one person said

    “You’ve got a UK keyboard set up.

    Open the language bar, and remove the UK setting, or change it to US, which is the standard.”

  298. March 21, 2014 5:42 pm

    1,000,000 Strong for Picketing Fred Phelps’ Funeral When That
    https://www.facebook.com/PicketFredPhelpsFuneral

    1000000 Strong for Picketing Fred Phelps’ Funeral When That Bastard Dies.
    1378 likes · 320 talking about this. To show the same ‘compassion’ for the loss of

    #guffaw, (google search snippet)

  299. March 21, 2014 5:47 pm

    l should have had fred on my list, but l didn`t.

  300. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 5:50 pm

    ‘It’s so naïve it’s almost ‘cute’…

    His sincerity is beyond doubt and I find the golden age of The Howard Years very comforting.

    Howard was a traditional conservative, Abbott is much more.

  301. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 5:54 pm

    Who is fred phelps? I’ve never heard of him

  302. March 21, 2014 5:55 pm

    ””””Abbott is much more””””

    Mr Rabbit is much, much, much, much, much, less dumpty.

  303. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 5:56 pm

    His sincerity is beyond doubt and I find the golden age of The Howard Years very comforting.

    The only good thing about the howard years is that they are gone

    it will be the same with abbott

  304. March 21, 2014 5:58 pm

    westboro baptist church, topeka, kansas, pastor crank fred phelps, famous for going to dead marines funerals and screaming dog hates fags, and fag america

  305. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 6:04 pm

    google is my friend

    I see his problem, fire and brimstone, brainwashed at the age of 16, a wasted life.

    Born on November 13, 1929, in Meridian, Missouri, Phelps graduated high school at the age of 16 and then enrolled at the fundamentalist Bob Jones University.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/fred-phelps-founder-of-antigay-westboro-baptist-church-dies-at-84-20140321-hvkyn.html#ixzz2wZu2KxBe

  306. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 6:07 pm

    I agree, there should be a million protesters at his funeral, signs full of hatred and vitriol – live by the sword, die by the sword.

  307. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 6:19 pm

    navy pride, you have to hope they can find their way back after looking for the missing plane bits!

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/21/australian-navy-unable-continuous-vessels

    …Questioned by Labor senators Stephen Conroy and the committee chairman Sam Dastyari, Campbell and Rear Admiral Mike Noonan, commander of border protection, conceded that their ability to track vessels was “not uniformly continuous”…

    …Asked whether vessels used by OSB ever switched off their location devices, the panel declined to answer, citing operational sensitivity…

    operation sabotage, deceit and criminal foreign incursion. This should be australia’s rainbow warrior moment, not that we’d ever know about it, happily ignorant is just how we like things here in oz.

  308. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 6:38 pm

    Let’s look at the positive side, attracting Greens to the conservative faith.

    ‘Tony Abbott’s federally funded ”green army” will enlist 15,000 young people in environmental work, striking young workers from official dole queue figures as youth unemployment soared in the year to January to 12.4 per cent.

    ‘But young people who fill the green army’s ranks will be paid as little as half the minimum wage, earning between $608.40 and $987.40 a fortnight.

    ‘The scheme – the cornerstone of the government’s environmental policies – is modelled on John Howard’s Green Corps, and will be an alternative to work-for-the-dole programs.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/tony-abbotts-green-army-enlisting-now-20140301-33sy0.html#ixzz2wa3XEhjM

  309. Tony permalink
    March 21, 2014 6:42 pm

    Neil seems sincere in what he says. He does not like leftoids, nor does he believe anything they tell him.

    It’s an uncomplicated world-view, if nothing else.

  310. March 21, 2014 6:50 pm

    “Those people would be protesting if Abbott solved cancer. They would be saying he took to long.”

    Sadly, you may be correct about that.

    As for Phelps…I’d recommend that everyone check out Cattle Decapitation’s vid for Forced Gender Reassignment. It’s been around for a while & it particularly addresses Phelps & his hateful ilk; turning the tables on them in horrid fashion.

    * Note: definitely don’t watch it if you are easily offended or squeamish. It’s not known as THE most gory & unsettling music vid ever for no reason. Too full on for youtube, last time I saw it it was on Bloody Disgusting. Many of my warnings are tongue in cheek…this one isn’t. No responsibility taken for manifest offence. The song gets rapturous applause when they play it live…Westboro Baptists’ rub all kinds of cross sections of society the wrong way; despicable cnuts that they are.

  311. March 21, 2014 6:56 pm

    I don’t doubt for a second that Neil is sincere & believes everything he says.

    Yes, it’s uncomplicated in the extreme.

    Unfortunately, black & white isn’t really the full spectrum of human existence.

    I find his monotones astounding. * note: I quite like Neil, and sometimes I agree with his legitimate criticisms of the ALP & its boosters (they play it like it’s team sport too…quite unable to find fault in their own).
    I honestly think it must be harder to rationalise all issues in one direction…how the fuck can a man perform such mental gymnastics without realising he’s doing it?! 😯

  312. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 7:05 pm

    I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it.[Edith Sitwell]

    Stupidity often saves a man from going mad.[ Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr]

  313. March 21, 2014 7:24 pm

    years ago on the irc,

    chat-rooms often got spammed by paid to spam/comment trolls that were paid by the repugs,

    they sounded just like kneel and dumpty

    #teabags

  314. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 7:30 pm

    ‘they sounded just like kneel and dumpty’

    Neil knows nothing about Menzies House and as for me, always been left wing until recently. Neither of us are in the pay of big oil.

  315. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 7:41 pm

    ‘For at least a generation, a large percentage of Australians have ranked the environment as an important issue; so important that the Green vote is now about 10 per cent.

    ‘Still, actually working for a better environment is something that people mostly have to volunteer for and that today’s farmers, miners and foresters have mostly grafted onto their principal task of making a living. Rather than being a full-time, permanent job, practical environmentalism has been more of an interest or a hobby.

    ‘It’s time to give more Australians the chance to make this a career, a vocation, a mission.’

    Tony Abbott

  316. March 21, 2014 7:46 pm

    ”””protesting if Abbott solved cancer”””

    #Mr-Rabbit is a dud and won`t `solve-cancer`,

    but to play along with you, IF, that`s a fcuking BIG-IF,

    you can rest assured Mr-Rabbit WOULDN`T APPROVE IT FOR the medicare schedule for the masses.

    lt would be reserved for those elite creatures of `caliber` only.

  317. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 7:50 pm

    Neither of us are in the pay of big oil.

    Happily donating your time and effort to the cause of big oil. How would you know what neil does at any time?

    for toilet:
    Slayer To Protest Westboro Baptist Church Leader Fred Phelps’ Funeral:
    http://tyrannyoftradition.com/2014/03/20/slayer-to-protest-westboro-baptist-leader-fred-phelps-funeral/

    …Phelps’ death has sent shockwaves through the Bigot community. Several Bigots across America have planned candlelight vigils to mourn the death of the man that some have called “The Godfather of Modern Bigotry”…

    …Bigots across the world have lost a hero to their cause. “He was our Harvey Milk,” said teary-eyed Westboro member Harvey Atwater as he heard the news. “Our President is from Kenya, it’s legal for a donkey to marry a man in most states, and Satan himself is running half of the major television networks as well as the Internet. America is going to Hell in a handbasket and our greatest leader has fallen. This is a dark day for this great nation.”

    😉

  318. March 21, 2014 7:50 pm

    Sound like the rockshifter, with Gina’s diamonds in his eyes.

    Noone except the rusted ons believe AbbottCorp gives even half a fuck about Teh Environmentz if it gets in the way of his anti-AGW aliances or making a profit.

    Teh Green Armiez is pure window dressing. It’s how he can be seen to be doing something without actually doing anything & it’s supposed to be inefficient anyway.
    The only bonus is that, generally, it pisses off zealots like Bolt et al, because it means Abbott is displaying political cowardice & giving lip service to AGW; eh, ToSY 😉 .

  319. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 21, 2014 7:53 pm

    Speaking of the environment, people at the Cafe said Howard did nothing for the environment. So i did a google search and found this

    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/rooted/2010/08/19/the-tide-turns-back-towards-labor-on-marine-parks/

    The Howard Government delivered the world’s first Oceans Policy and major marine parks in the Great Australian Bight, Australia’s south-east marine region around Tasmania, around our sub-Antarctic islands, and greatly increased protection of the Great Barrier Reef. A number of Australia’s major fisheries were rationalized and restructured, underpinned with a multimillion-dollar package to provide the necessary graceful exits. One of the biggest legislative reform agendas in Australia’s history was delivered with the creation of the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Fish became recognized as wildlife not just a commercial commodity and hundreds of millions of dollars were invested through the National Heritage Trust in Australia’s first national program for coast and marine protection and rehabilitation.”

    And that was from an ALP supporter.

  320. March 21, 2014 7:56 pm

    “Slayer To Protest Westboro Baptist Church Leader Fred Phelps’ Funeral”

    Funnily enough, there’s been a few years of backlash against Westboro & all it stands for within the metal community.

    If I get time later I could post a few links (that everyone will hate…haha).

    Another place I’ve encountered widespread ridicule of Phelps is atheist groups (unsurprisingly)…but, I must say, his brand of Christianity is anything but & I can’t think of many people at all that it has resonated; least of all those who aspire to be like a compassionate follower of the middle eastern zombie reincarnate jebus.

    * SLAYER are fkn BOSS…

  321. March 21, 2014 7:57 pm

    People at the Café are what I refer to when I say things like this, Neil…”they play it like it’s team sport too…quite unable to find fault in their own”.

    Partisan arsehats.

  322. March 21, 2014 8:00 pm

    “Animosity between Slayer and Westboro has been mounting since Phelps threatened to picket the funeral of Slayer guitarist Jeff Hanneman last year.”

    Moderate Christians often carry on about Slayer & their fellow travellers too.

    two words…Pant Wetters…

  323. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 8:00 pm

    ‘How would you know what neil does at any time?’

    About a year ago I mentioned Menzies House and he didn’t have a clue what I meant. Neil has strong convictions and lives in the past.

    I have few strong political convictions (having come from the left to embrace the right) and prefer to live in the future.

  324. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 8:10 pm

    ‘Noone except the rusted ons believe AbbottCorp gives even half a fuck about Teh Environmentz ‘

    I agree its window dressing, but Abbott has to do something to attract the Green vote after the world turns upside down.

    With the able support of Barnaby Joyce (Agrarian Socialist) this revamped GreenCorp model is an electoral winner.

  325. March 21, 2014 8:12 pm

    ”””’He was our Harvey Milk,” said teary-eyed Westboro member”””””

    excellent find armchair, funny as 🙂

  326. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 8:31 pm

    ‘The political left shouldn’t be seen as “owning” the environment (it’s too important for that) and I am determined to challenge any assumption that it does. Conservative political parties and the conservationist movement both want to preserve what’s best in our heritage.

    ‘Different emphases notwithstanding, they have a shared respect for the natural order of things. It was, after all, the Fraser Government (not the Whitlam or the Hawke governments) that protected the Barrier Reef and Fraser Island, established the Kakadu National Park, ended Australian whaling and saved Antarctica from development.

    ‘It was the Howard Government that led the campaign against Japanese whaling, established mandatory renewable energy targets for the power industry, and committed $10 billion to restoring the Murray-Darling basin.’

    Tony Abbott

  327. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 8:36 pm

    I have few strong political convictions (having come from the left to embrace the right) and prefer to live in the future.

    so you keep saying, we have no way to prove or disprove that, can only take you at your word. You also seem to have embraced the cognitive distortions of the right.
    There is no future in big oil,that is why they are so afraid of the future which is real change and progress and the fall of everything they hold so dear, $$$ and power.

    Postcard from the Future: 122% Wind Power in Denmark
    http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/blog/post/2013/12/postcard-from-the-future-122-wind-power-in-denmark

  328. Tony permalink
    March 21, 2014 8:37 pm

    “eh, ToSY”

    Yeah, the green army is bullshit. As for AGW, I’m very hopeful the whole scam is in its death throes. The outcome of the American Physical Society’s inquiry will be most interesting.

  329. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 8:46 pm

    ‘…can only take you at your word.’

    My youngest is a ferocious leftoid and the eldest a watermelon. In fact all my extended family and friends fit into those categories, so you’ll have to take my word that I’m sitting on the fence and leaning to the right.

  330. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 8:48 pm

    ‘Yeah, the green army is bullshit.’

    Its a temporary sop, to fill the void after the tipping point.

  331. March 21, 2014 9:12 pm

    People inclined to care, a little more than Abbott & the corporate futurists, about the biosphere won’t be so easily sopped.
    It’s not just the anti-AGW that rubs their skin the wrong way, it’s the accompanying worldview that smacks of a ‘The World Is Man’s Dominion As god’s Chosen’ which it carries more than a faint whiff of with it.
    The balance will tip too far back in the direction of opportunists of the Earth raping variety & enough of the voting population is prescient enough to realise it’s the planet we all have to share that they’ll be onto his cynicism eventually.

    AGW is one thing, right or wrong. Environmentalism will be much harder for the opposite side of politics to subjugate indefinitely. As it should be.

    It’s interesting to note a couple of you going on the record stating that Teh Green Army is a cynical token prop aimed at soft greenists though.
    Obviously, Tony has never obscured his view as such; to the credit of his consistency.

    It’s Abbott’s hat tip towards knowing that he needs to pretend to get his agenda prosecuted without total uproar, imo.

  332. egg permalink
    March 21, 2014 9:34 pm

    ‘It’s Abbott’s hat tip towards knowing that he needs to pretend to get his agenda prosecuted without total uproar, imo.’

    First and foremost he’s a political pragmatist.

    ‘…which it carries more than a faint whiff of with it.’

    Can’t accept that.

    ‘Teh Green Army is a cynical token prop aimed at soft greenists though.’

    The hard core Greens will never be won over (primarily because they are red) but the soft Greens should be easily wooed after the balloon goes up.

  333. March 21, 2014 10:20 pm

    “the soft Greens should be easily wooed after the balloon goes up.”

    The ‘soft greens’ occupy more of the middle than you think, and I doubt that most of them are so easily held in thrall.

    “First and foremost he’s a political pragmatist.”

    He is definitely a political pragmatist, some (me included) would say cynical political opportunist. But, first & foremost, if his religiosity is to be taken seriously, he is a dogmatic adherent of the cult of the jebus; unless that ‘conviction’ too is malleable & open to opportunism (I give the man enough credit for character to assume that it isn’t).
    Which is why I say ” the accompanying worldview that smacks of ‘The World Is Man’s Dominion As god’s Chosen”…whether you accept it or not. You have rose coloured glasses on when it comes to wishfully serenading the virtues of Abbott, el gordo.

  334. March 21, 2014 10:21 pm

    “The hard core Greens will never be won over ”

    That much is true…and the price to win them over would be too high to warrant paying.

  335. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 21, 2014 10:21 pm

    …The hard core Greens will never be won over (primarily because they are red) but the soft Greens should be easily wooed after the balloon goes up…

    I doubt even soft greens will be at all taken in, everyone knows it’s rubbish except those who want to believe that his green army will somehoe be of benefit to the community through ‘dole bludgers’ working or helping out our ‘poor farmers’ etc

  336. March 21, 2014 10:24 pm

    “everyone knows it’s rubbish except those who want to believe”

    Like everybody’s favourite deadshit, the rockshifter.

  337. Walrus permalink
    March 22, 2014 1:58 am

    Thanks Kitty,

    The first one fixed itself (physian heal thyself)

    The other 3 I was worried about rebooted suddenly and seem Ok

  338. Walrus permalink
    March 22, 2014 2:07 am

    Well if you want to start a pop up store full of stuff

    Check this alibaba.com

  339. Dianne permalink
    March 22, 2014 5:07 am

    Armchair – thanks for the ‘happily ignorant’ comment and the subsequent remarks by Edith and Holmes.

    I can see clearly now.

    This land is now divided into two camps: the happily ignorant and the unhappily ignorant.

    It explains everything.

  340. egg permalink
    March 22, 2014 7:10 am

    ‘That much is true…and the price to win them over would be too high to warrant paying.’

    They are such a small minority and soon to become a political irrelevance … after the fat lady sings.

  341. egg permalink
    March 22, 2014 7:36 am

    ‘it’s rubbish except those who want to believe that his green army will somehow be of benefit to the community ‘

    Having been involved with bush regeneration and more recently Conservation Volunteers, I’m aware that the concept doesn’t have much political traction. Abbott intends to change that poor image and put the army front and centre.

    Regenerating national parks by eliminating alien weeds and feral animals is a big deal, and the soft Greens will rejoice.

    Don’t forget the Coalition has attracted many left wing voters through their stance on a single issue (which must remain nameless) and they are unlikely to return anytime soon.

  342. egg permalink
    March 22, 2014 7:53 am

    ‘The ‘soft greens’ occupy more of the middle than you think, and I doubt that most of them are so easily held in thrall.’

    In our hearts we are all conservation minded and I fully expect the mass of soft Greens to embrace the Green Army and cast their votes accordingly over the coming decade.

    It all hinges on the elimination of what Tosy refers to as a ‘scam’, which will surely happen this year. So the aim of the Green Army is to absorb young unemployed people into one long holiday camp, full of romance and adventure.

  343. March 22, 2014 11:04 am

    ”””'(I give the man enough credit for character to assume that it isn’t).”””'[dunny]

    Disagree big time. The last six years, none of Mr-Rabbits behavior has been in line with what modern dog-botherers indoctrinate their children with. The vast majority of dog-botherers l know do not condone the level of `disrespect of PM` and `PM office` that Mr-Rabbit has engaged in. They also don`t condone the `theft/repaying` travel rorting around Mr-Rabbits `book`launch and `cycle`charity.

    lt is only `our` teabags and trolls that `do` condone this and peddle `damage`control for Mr-Rabbit, the much quieter, local old-style conservatives don`t like it, just as most of`em don`t like the `stripping` of community`owned` assets.

  344. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 22, 2014 11:37 am

    `disrespect of PM`

    What a joke!

    Gillard was a crook, an expedient, shady lawyer. There are plenty of them around, but most don’t finish up being Our Prime Minister.

  345. March 22, 2014 12:15 pm

    nice of ya give the audience a working example

  346. public toilet permalink
    March 22, 2014 12:46 pm

    That’s the thing about religion, most of em pick & choose the bits which are convenient for themselves, and happily ignore the rest of the unhelpful dogmatic restraints.

    I do think Abbott actually believes in a sky wizard though…

  347. March 22, 2014 12:59 pm

    “I do think Abbott actually believes in a sky wizard though…””

    He’s a certified dog botherer through and through…

    I recall seeing some footage of him in a Cathedral somewhere, clutching at his rosaries and muttering some sort penance thing…

    This is the “person” who now represents Australia. A bona fide talking snake advocate..

    May dog help us all.

  348. March 22, 2014 1:12 pm

    Agree, Mr Rabbit picks and chooses his `sky-wizardry`,

    doesn`t dog say something along the lines of,

    ””’what you do to the `least`, you do to dog”””

    #Mr-Rabbit(and-joolya) fcuked over single-mums welfare,

    #Mr-Rabbit(and-joolya) fcuking over boat-people, with bottomless cashpit to bastardize them,

    #on `equality`generally, Mr-Rabbit seems to support it for those he deems `of-caliber`, just not for the masses,

    l just don`t see `consistency` in Mr-Rabbits so-called `belief` in his sky-wizardry

  349. March 22, 2014 1:20 pm

    #Mr-Rabbit wants to reduce the 18K-taxable, back to the 5K/6K level, wrecking one of the better ideas of slowing/reversing the poverty of the economic `bottom`, hammering the `poor` aint exactly in dogs handbook either.

  350. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 22, 2014 1:21 pm

    “This land is now divided into two camps: the happily ignorant and the unhappily ignorant”…other than those of us here who are happily informed!

  351. egg permalink
    March 22, 2014 1:37 pm

    The Abbott is a true believer in dog, while his wife and girls say fairytales are not for them. He won’t let his faith interfere with the running of the country, because he’s also a pragmatist.

  352. March 22, 2014 1:39 pm

    reb, l see the teabags, whether it is Mr-Rabbit or Dubya`s Repugs, are paying their dues and lip-service to dog, as a way of very `cheaply` harnessing a block of votes.

    The teabags engage in `wholesome` family-friendly `poofter-bashing` to shore-up the easily frightened dog-botherers, which gives the dog fanatics the illusion they are `getting` something, and saves the teabags from having to `actually` deliver to the dog fanatics, something of `true` value/cost. The minute the `fanatic` vote is much less than their `middle-of-road` vote, then the fanatic`s will be dumped. Repugs, at the moment have lost their `middle-of-road` demographic, so are clinging to their fanatics. Mr-Rabbits zombies are running same game-plan.

  353. egg permalink
    March 22, 2014 2:13 pm

    Our cousins in the USA are different to us, even the retired Pope Benedict said Australians are becoming a faithless society.

    Here is a little research.

    ‘The idea of God has certainly become contentious in contemporary Australia. In 1949, there was little disagreement: a Gallup Poll reported that 95 per cent of Australians believed in God. Today, Australians hold a variety of views.

    ‘The 2009 Survey of Australian attitudes conducted by the Australian National University among 1718 adult Australians found that just under half the population (47%) believed in God. Among that 47 per cent, there was considerable variation in the levels of confidence.

    ‘Just 25 per cent of the Australian population said they had no doubts that God exists. The remaining 22 per cent were somewhat tentative in their belief. Some said they had doubts, but generally believed. Others said they believed some of the time but not at others.’

    CRA

    So your off-hand comment that ‘Mr-Rabbits zombies are running same game-plan’ is simply wrong headed.

  354. March 22, 2014 2:18 pm

    Mr-Rabbit`s zombies are more than willing,

    the actively harness `useful-imbeciles` such as ya`self dumpty

  355. March 22, 2014 2:25 pm

    Those claiming they are `#happily informed!` are actually #happily-delusional,

    there is large quantities of `machinery` in place that`s ONLY purpose is to keep the general population un-informed, mis-informed and dis-informed,

    anybody that has tried to do any type of `deep` research from `outside` the machinery knows this,

    hence, the unhinged meltdowns over snowden and assange

  356. March 22, 2014 2:28 pm

    THEY actively harness `useful-imbeciles` such as ya`self dumpty

  357. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 22, 2014 2:28 pm

    Those claiming they are `#happily informed!` are actually #happily-delusional”

    As spoken by the #uninformed, #unhappily ##delusional.

  358. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 22, 2014 2:42 pm

    http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/03/13/worldwide-many-see-belief-in-god-as-essential-to-morality/

    I always think it is a mistake to draw too many parallels between the religious inclinations of Americans and Australians.

    The majority of people in the USA regard religion and morality as mutually dependent. The opposite is true in Australia.

    Imagine the ridicule if Kylie Minogue (or someone) stood up at the Logies and thanked god for their success. But everyone seems to do that in the USA.

  359. Dianne permalink
    March 22, 2014 2:49 pm

    Tom – ah yes, ‘happily informed’.

    Conundrums. Conundrums.

    And Egg, I don’t think Abbott is a pragmatist. I think he bides his time.

  360. March 22, 2014 2:50 pm

    shame ya`not bright enough to distinguish between,

    1-demographics and

    2-teabag political strategy

    Note, l never claimed teh-usa and Aust have the same `religion`demographics, yomm, dumpty

  361. egg permalink
    March 22, 2014 2:59 pm

    ‘I think he bides his time.’

    That’s a pragmatic approach, he’s a political animal.

    Half the population of the US believe we are not alone, this is the new religion.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/alien-poll_n_3473852.html

  362. Dianne permalink
    March 22, 2014 3:13 pm

    As far as I am concerned pragmatism involves adjusting ideology to bring about political outcomes acceptable to most.

    I don’t see any evidence of that in Abbott.

    He is a political animal alright. A hyena. He has been circling us for decades.

    He adjusts his message according to need.

    He is a rote-learnt ideologue supported by and encouraged by other ideologues and vested interests.

    Most of all he likes to fight. Always wanting to crush something or someone.

    He does it by keeping us all happily ignorant.

    Some of us are unhappily ignorant. We can sniff something down wind but we can’t see its shape because we are kept in the dark.

  363. Dianne permalink
    March 22, 2014 3:17 pm

    A line dropped off.

    Should read:

    He adjusts his message according to need but his actions often belie his words.

  364. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 22, 2014 3:23 pm

    Wow Dianne.

    Your comments amaze me since you told me you voted for Keating in 1993 when unemployment was at 11%.

  365. egg permalink
    March 22, 2014 3:34 pm

    ‘adjusting ideology to bring about political outcomes acceptable to most.’

    This is a democracy and he wants to stay in power, so all he has to do is woo a majority.

    ‘Most of all he likes to fight.’

    He has a history of fighting and politics is a rough game.

    ‘We can sniff something down wind but we can’t see its shape because we are kept in the dark.’

    Stay motionless, continue sniffing and stay in the dark, eventually the shape will reveal itself.

    ‘He adjusts his message according to need but his actions often belie his words.’

    Unfortunately all politicians are forced into this situation, I won’t mention any names.

  366. Dianne permalink
    March 22, 2014 3:56 pm

    First point Egg – I am saying he does NOT adjust deology to bring about an acceptable outcome.

    He simply bides his time to impose an ideological policy on the country by stealth.

    He wants us to keep still in the dark. Actually the happily ignorant are all out shopping unaware that the hyena lurks in the shadows.

    Beware the watchful among us unless they are lifeguards.

    Neil – I am talking about fundamental change to our way of life.

    Stay happy. It is probably the wiser course. Better for your health.

    Actually I am quite prepared to countenance a change of direction. I am simply sick of being manipulated. By anybody.

  367. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 22, 2014 4:07 pm

    “Actually I am quite prepared to countenance a change of direction. I am simply sick of being manipulated. By anybody.”

    No Dianne. You are sick of the Coalition being in power.

    You have no problems being manipulated if it was the ALP doing the manipulating.

  368. Dianne permalink
    March 22, 2014 4:13 pm

    That’s right Neil.

    I have told you before I vote for nobody.

  369. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 22, 2014 4:24 pm

    No. You told me you voted for Keating when unemployment was at 11%.

  370. Dianne permalink
    March 22, 2014 4:26 pm

    Oh for god’s sake. Keating was the last. I have already told you that.

  371. egg permalink
    March 22, 2014 4:44 pm

    ‘He simply bides his time to impose an ideological policy on the country by stealth.’

    Not really, he has to face the people on a regular basis, this is the beauty of democracy.

    ‘Actually the happily ignorant are all out shopping unaware that the hyena lurks in the shadows.’

    The electorate is not ignorant and will vote in their own best interest.

  372. Dianne permalink
    March 22, 2014 4:52 pm

    Yes but what is your best interest may not be mine.

    I prefer the national interest. It is a quaint notion these days.

    I guess that is why I am uninspired.

    I am too conservative I guess.

  373. egg permalink
    March 22, 2014 4:54 pm

    This is what I mean Dianne, steady as you go.

    ‘Tony Abbott is staking Liberal re-election and his leadership on the simple formula of “well and truly” honouring his election commitments last year and not embarking on any unforeshadowed changes, including to industrial relations, until after the next poll.

    ‘In a direct acknowledgment of a two-term strategy, the Prime Minister has declared there will be a new set of commitments before the next election, due in 2016, but says first he wants his government to “deliver”.

    Shanahan / Oz

  374. March 22, 2014 4:55 pm

    l hear what ya`sayin Dianne, but ya`wasting ya`time with Dumpty and Kneel. Their Willful-Blindness-Stupidity-Hivemind will never acknowledge that Mr-Rabbit is a dud. Mr-Rabbit will be able to maintain the thinest veil of bullshit to appease simple-media while there is no `big-issue` or unexpected event that needs urgent attention. The minute something does crop-up,(eg-GFC) his veil of nonsense will collapse, showing the buffoon in all his glory, and the nation and people will be fcuked.

    This is what you sense `up-wind`

  375. Dianne permalink
    March 22, 2014 5:20 pm

    Tea bag it is mind numbing how we have to deal with his utterances as if they are factual.

    Take today’s take on asylum seekers on Manus. PNG as we know has jacked up on taking more than a few. The rest look set to be repatriated.

    That leaves an as yet unknown number of refugees to be settled.

    Abbott says it is a regional problem.

    Is it? I haven’t seen too many boats trying to reach Fiji, Tonga or the Cook Islands. Or even NZ.

    And Egg – the extract from today’s epistle by the Blue Bouffant is too much for me.

  376. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 22, 2014 5:40 pm

    “Is it? I haven’t seen too many boats trying to reach Fiji, Tonga or the Cook Islands. Or even NZ.

    That is because it is several thousands of miles of ocean to get to these countries.

    It is actually an ALP problem since in 2007 there were only 6 boat people in detention.

    In a burst of moral superiority the ALP announced it was going to abolish Howards Pacific Solution and created all this trouble.

    We had no asylum seeker problems in 2007 until you voted for Rudd in 2007.

  377. March 22, 2014 6:04 pm

    Dianne, l only saw a small grab on tv last night about png,

    l though mr-rabbit looked quite the imbecile, trying to pretend `manus-will-work-out`, while all the png/manus people are saying they can`t/won`t take that many boat-people. lf joolya`s mob did such a shit job as mr-rabbit claims, he should not be still using joolya`s ideas.

    This is the action of a dud.

  378. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 22, 2014 6:09 pm

    It was the ALP that created all this trouble.

    Abbot is trying to clean up the mess ALP supporters created.

    Our detention centers were empty in 2007 until you lot voted for Rudd in 2007.

    Corrupt and immoral people create corrupt and immoral results.

  379. egg permalink
    March 22, 2014 6:19 pm

    ‘Yes but what is your best interest may not be mine.’

    That’s true, it cannot be helped, democracy is still the fairest system.

    ‘I prefer the national interest. It is a quaint notion these days.’

    Politicians in a democracy are not dictators and will do what is most popular to stay in power. Abbott is going in for infrastructure, decentralisation, mass immigration and a green army, all in the national interest, but this may not be to everyone’s taste. So you have a chance to throw them out of office at the next election.

    ‘I guess that is why I am uninspired. I am too conservative I guess.’

    Join me on the dark side, centre right, watch your step.

  380. Neil of Sydney permalink
    March 22, 2014 6:30 pm

    Some facts before the ALP and its supporters abolished the Pacific Solution

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/04/17/asylum-seekers-the-facts-in-figures/

    Total number of persons in immigration detention in Australia as of 12 September 2008: 274  —  HREOC
    Number of these detained people who were unauthorized boat arrivals: 6  —  HREOC

    So there were 6 boats arrival in detention before TB, Toilet, Reb voted for Rudd

    “Amount spent on detention in 07-08: $142 million”

    We are now spending $1B/year more than that because TB, Toilet, Reb voted for Rudd in 2007

  381. TB Queensland permalink
    March 22, 2014 7:09 pm

    We are now spending $1B/year more than that because TB, Toilet, Reb voted for Rudd in 2007

    That’s assuming any of us of voted for Rudd … and that was SEVEN years ago …

    Kneel, you do know that a LIBERAL government is in power now and slowly stuffing up international relationships, business relationships both local and overseas, Australia’s image in the UN, the reputation of the ADF, health, education, broadband access and just letting the mining industry sit idle … with no policies or plans of their own …

    All because Kneel, James, Wally and sb voted for Tony Abbott … 🙄

    ALL FKN GOVERNMENTS FK UP OUR COUNTRY!

    Just who is running Australia?

  382. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 22, 2014 7:56 pm

    http://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2014/03/22/keeping-andrew-bolt-business/1395406800#.Uy1GVfnSoWY

    …Bolt presents himself as a fearless truth-teller, defying the state, the judiciary and, most important, the purveyors of politically correctness in defence of common sense. Offence is at the core part of his business model. The Racial Discrimination Act as it stands curtails his ability to trade…

    The laws must be changed to ensure bolt makes a lot of money and continues to spread the right wing/corporocracy message.

    Politicians in a democracy are not dictators and will do what is most popular to stay in power.

    actually, they are dictators, they have given themselves the ultimate power to make and change all laws and institutions in the country, there is nothing in the land that can curtail their power. The so-called independent authorities and tribunals have no power to over ride any parliamentary legislation, but it looks good for pollies to claim something is overseeing their corruption.

    See how easy it is for them to repeal the ‘racist bolt’ legislation and and create whatever laws they want to dream up, the only difficulty is spinning & selling their interest as the national interest.

    Nothing the citizens can do about any of it, the gullible believe they are participating in a democracy.

  383. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 22, 2014 8:04 pm

    We are now spending $1B/year more than that because TB, Toilet, Reb voted for Rudd in 2007

    We are now murdering and torturing people who have sought compassion, safety and refuge in our country because some insecure, frightened, threatened ‘oppressed in their own country’ white australian bigots don’t like brown people or muslims living here.

  384. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 22, 2014 8:17 pm

    get off your soapbox neil, it’s no good trying to say it was labor’s fault before it was the lib’s fault, so that makes it all OK.

    There’s some of us who think that both sides have behaved reprehensibly and both sides are political opportunists creating tragic, life stealing consequences for asylum seekers. Your tit for tat nonsense shows you up for the dogmatic plodding apologist-for-inhumanity that you really are.

  385. Dianne permalink
    March 22, 2014 8:35 pm

    Neil – please see the competition thread for my response to your comment. Posted on wrong thread.

  386. March 22, 2014 8:48 pm

    both sides have behaved reprehensibly and both sides are political opportunists creating tragic, life stealing consequences for asylum seekers. Your tit for tat nonsense shows you up for the dogmatic plodding apologist-for-inhumanity that you really are.

    Ditto. Burn ya`cross elsewhere.

  387. egg permalink
    March 22, 2014 9:08 pm

    Breaking Nooze

    Xmas Island Takes Battering

    http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-254.08,-9.82,3000

  388. March 22, 2014 9:15 pm

    ””””””””””””””He reports that his audience size is estimated at 300,000. Bolt presents
    http://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2014/03/22/keeping-andrew-bolt-business/1395406800#.Uy1GVfnSoWY
    ””””””””””””””’

    l found this interesting too armchair, 300,000-bolt-audience, (his_numbers) is all he can muster out of 23-million, clearly the looney fringe, too bad it includes the rest of teabag-media.

    Good-on Langton, l`m now looking forward to bolts next hissy-fit.

  389. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 23, 2014 1:02 am

    l found this interesting too armchair, 300,000-bolt-audience, (his_numbers) is all he can muster out of 23-million, clearly the looney fringe, too bad it includes the rest of teabag-media.

    I think it’s a bit like rupert’s australian, it doesn’t matter whether it runs at a loss or has a small audience, spruiking the right wing message is the important thing. bolt’s got the whole franchise now, a blog, a radio show and now thanks to gina his mug’s on tv every week. They obviously want australia’s free-to-air version of glenn beck to drive the message that corporate australia and the teabags want us all to hear. If they weren’t trying to convert as many people as possible with right wing propaganda, I would’ve thought they would stick him behind a firewall or on a fox subscription.

    All that media reach makes a mockery of his hypocrisy over the RDA and his ‘poor bugger me’ victim act.

  390. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 23, 2014 1:52 am

    Andrew Bolt, you created this political climate

    Resign, Dickhead
    http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/tony-abbott-andrew-bolt-and-resign-dickhead,6296

    …I think it’s fair to call him a dickhead. I hope that it sticks and that for the rest of his life, Tony Abbott is known as Tony Abbott the Dickhead PM…

    …I hope people who meet his daughters say

    “Oh, your dad is the famous dickhead!”…

  391. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 23, 2014 2:17 am

    comedy gold

  392. egg permalink
    March 23, 2014 7:55 am

    ‘Yawn. Global warming is so boring now.’

    Only for watermelons, 2014 will be a tipping point year.

  393. public toilet permalink
    March 23, 2014 8:59 am

    Errr, Neil…has it occurred to you that I didn’t vote for Rudd in 2007?
    Could it have been, I voted for my local member…or, against Howard?

    Proud to have seen the old prick unceremoniously removed too.

  394. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 23, 2014 11:03 am

    I find this corruption debacle obscene. Private individuals profiteering from water. Water is a basic necessity for human life and IMO should always be a government service provided for all and never privatised.
    The only people making huge money out of these schemes are the grifters who set it all up and the rent seekers. It’s all a version of privileged insider trading.
    If they could privatise the air we breathe they would and the same pollies and business people would be slurping at the trough while taxpayers are gouged over & over, first as taxpayers for the govt service and then as consumers for ongoing returns to the blood suckers.
    Offensive and obscene.

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/productivity-commission-lacks-passion-for-publicprivate-projects-20140322-359yh.html

    …Private sector money has to come from somewhere. Most often the private firm will siphon it out of the government, as AWH did when it billed Sydney Water for expenses including limousine rides, pornographic movies and Sinodinos’ salary. Or it might borrow the money and later siphon it out of the government, meaning the government will face the same sort of costs as if it had borrowed itself.
    Or it might charge tolls, which the government itself could do if it had the guts…

    What’s the point of it all, this merry go round of PPP? other than making a few privileged parasites very wealthy off the taxpayers, all assisted by corrupt politicians getting kickbacks.

  395. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 23, 2014 12:47 pm

    “actually, they are dictators, they have given themselves the ultimate power to make and change all laws and institutions in the country, there is nothing in the land that can curtail their power. The so-called independent authorities and tribunals have no power to over ride any parliamentary legislation, but it looks good for pollies to claim something is overseeing their corruption.”.

    “actually, they are dictators”

    actually they are popularly elected representatives. Leftists yearn for dictators precisely so they want radical change without bothering with what the majority of the population wants.

    “they have given themselves the ultimate power to make and change all laws and institutions in the country”

    It is the constitution, silly. And guess who voted for the constitution? Oh that would be the people, by referendum. How undemocratic is that!

    “there is nothing in the land that can curtail their power.”

    Except the constitution. And the people can turf them out every three years. What a travesty. How undemocratic is that!

    “The so-called independent authorities and tribunals have no power to over ride any parliamentary legislation”

    Oh yes (smacks forehead) why not give unelected officials power to make laws rather than elected representatives. Why didn’t I think of that!

    “Nothing the citizens can do about any of it”

    Actually the citizens voted them in on the basis of their promises. Both Labor and the Libs promised to terminate the Carbon Tax. But Labor was lying just like they lied when they promised not to introduce it in the first place. Lies like that are a cancer on democracy, like the leftists who speak them. No wonder they got the arse.

    “both sides are political opportunists creating tragic, life stealing consequences for asylum seekers.”

    Wrong again. Only one side drowned 1100 asylum seekers. And they are very very angry that the drownings have stopped!

    “it doesn’t matter whether it runs at a loss or has a small audience”

    How much profit does the ABC make? Nothing – the leftist cabal that run it just steal a billion dollars from taxpayers every year for their own political purposes.

    “I find this corruption debacle obscene. Private individuals profiteering from water. Water is a basic necessity for human life and IMO should always be a government service provided for all and never privatised.
    The only people making huge money out of these schemes are the grifters who set it all up and the rent seekers. It’s all a version of privileged insider trading.
    If they could privatise the air we breathe they would and the same pollies and business people would be slurping at the trough while taxpayers are gouged over & over, first as taxpayers for the govt service and then as consumers for ongoing returns to the blood suckers.
    Offensive and obscene.”

    Now at last you are talking sense, kL!

  396. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 23, 2014 2:08 pm

    …actually they are popularly elected representatives.

    They are strategically placed puppets that the party elects in their interests, not the people’s choice at all. In many electorates, such as toilet’s there is a rusted on majority who would vote for donald duck if he was put up by a particular party. What about the voters in those electorates holding dissenting views who effectively have no political representation because their duck has allegiance to his party and not the wishes of the electorate. In the same way the people in marginal electorates [eg western sydney bigots] get to hold the whole country to ransom because their interests are put above other voters, hardly democratic really.

    Wrong again. Only one side drowned 1100 asylum seekers. And they are very very angry that the drownings have stopped!

    And one side was morbidly ecstatic every time there was a death or a boat load of asylum seekers coming near – their business model of re-election built on hatred, xenophobia and racism.

    look up Shahraz Kayani, MV Tampa, the pacific solution, siev x and reports called “A Price Too High” [A Just Australia/Oxfam], A Last Resort [HREOC]

  397. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 23, 2014 2:56 pm

    “In many electorates, such as toilet’s there is a rusted on majority who would vote for donald duck if he was put up by a particular party.”

    This contempt for the votes of ordinary citizens is emblematic of the fascist left. To them all voters are not equal. This is the attitude of the despicable elitist intelligentsia. Their self-chosen name, “intelligentsia” is surely is ironic. In fact their words and actions demonstrate that their driving motivation is hubristic vanity. Their intellect, such as it is, is rarely brought to bear on any matter. Thus any person voting otherwise than in accordance with their agenda is denigrated and ridiculed.

    I don’t know if this has ever occurred to you, KL, but it could be that most people do not want a radical lurch to the left. In which case it is entirely appropriate that fringe extremists have only limited representation in parliament. Anything else would be unjust.

    “their business model of re-election built on hatred, xenophobia and racism”

    More projection! The real racists these days come mainly from the left, whether the anti-Semitic BDS movement or those who want to divide the country by promoting race-based laws and policies. The hateful racist xenophobes are those happy to see a thousand foreigners drown just so they can feel good about themselves.

  398. egg permalink
    March 23, 2014 3:02 pm

    ‘western sydney bigots’

    Mostly migrants who have arrived over the past 50 years and they tend to vote in their own best interests, depending on background.

  399. TB Queensland permalink
    March 23, 2014 3:27 pm

    Wrong again. Only one side drowned 1100 asylum seekers. And they are very very angry that the drownings have stopped!

    Probably the most stupid statement I’ve ever read on this or any other blog … real emotional bitterness … no logic and destroys any intellectual credibility in the rest of the comment …

    And having read many of sb’s, thought provoking comments – extremely disappointing …

    A phrase in that sentence probably sets a few here apart … “Ony one side” … I for one don’t have “sides” … if any politician fks up they will cop it!

  400. egg permalink
    March 23, 2014 3:48 pm

    “Only one side” … I for one don’t have “sides” …

    Could have fooled me, you must be part of toilet’s non-alligned grouping.

  401. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 23, 2014 3:53 pm

    Welcome home. Good to have you back, TB.

    A phrase in that sentence probably sets a few here apart … “Only one side”

    Really? Context might improve your understanding. The comment my statement was answering was: “both sides are political opportunists” hence my reference to the one side that really has blood on its hands.

    “Probably the most stupid accurate statement I’ve ever read”

    I’ll stop making this point when there is a clear acknowledgement from those who supported ending the Pacific Solution of the entirely foreseeable consequences of their decision, and their responsibility for the drownings.

    The fact is that there was no reason to dismantle the Pacific Solution (other than hubris – e.g. the teary-eyed speeches about this great moral act) because it was harming no one. The drownings had stopped and very few were in detention. The only reason the Pacific Solution was stopped was because doing so made a bunch of wankers feel better about themselves. That decision cost 1100 people their lives. It was unnecessary and its murderous consequences were entirely foreseeable and were pointed out at the time.

    Denial of this reality is where the real stupidity lies.

  402. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 23, 2014 3:54 pm

    I don’t know if this has ever occurred to you, KL, but it could be that most people do not want a radical lurch to the left. In which case it is entirely appropriate that fringe extremists have only limited representation in parliament. Anything else would be unjust.

    please sb, your cheerleading for the extreme right betrays you. There is no extreme left in aussie politics. It’s more like the centre for the greens, the centre right for labor and the libs in off-the-scale extreme right territory, which then makes everyone else look ‘left’. Not that anyone except bolt even talks in antiquated terms of left vs right anymore, some people are still stuck in a 50’s era mindset. The fringe elements you talk of are decent hard working citizens who want to live in a fair and reasonable country, not a corporate wet dream of a slave society.

  403. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 23, 2014 4:11 pm

    Conservatives don’t ever want to be confronted with the truth. Certainly feel no need to inform the public of what they do in their name.

  404. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 23, 2014 5:13 pm

    “There is no extreme left in aussie politics.”

    Lenin didn’t think he was an extremist either! Nor Mao. They just wanted to “live in a fair and reasonable country”.

    Adam Bandt, when he was openly a Trot, suggested that the way forward was to infiltrate the Greens. As he did. As did that pathetic old commo Lee Rhiannon. Both are now Greens parliamentarians. Both are utter fuckwits and far to the left.

    It is no surprise to hear Greens like Clive Hamilton talk of the need to suspend democracy to get their policies through. And it is no surprise that, having had a taste of the the Greens, voters are running a mile from them. Compared to you, the Greens may be centrist. Compared to the vast majority of Australians they are a radical fringe group. Hence their vanishing vote.

    It is also no surprise that you label me as a cheerleader for the extreme right. Compared to you I probably am. After all I believe in representative government, freedom of speech, equality of all citizens before the law, individual liberty and less government interference in people’s lives. I see those matters as a starting point to be moderated by a pragmatic approach which has regard to practical outcomes. That agenda seems to scare the shit out of the extreme left. Imagine if people thought for themselves and voted accordingly. Yikes!!!! There goes the whole leftist scam down the toilet.

  405. March 23, 2014 6:40 pm

    “In many electorates, such as toilet’s there is a rusted on majority who would vote for donald duck if he was put up by a particular party.”

    Yeah well, conjure leftist fascist boogeymen all you like splatter, but that’s the way it works here. I’m sure safe ALP seats work the same way. The Parties know this, everyone who [in vain] votes here knows this. The historic statistics support this. Have a close look at the boundaries of the seat & it’s pretty fkn easy to see why it is so.

  406. March 23, 2014 6:43 pm

    “Could have fooled me, you must be part of toilet’s non-alligned grouping.”

    Fuck you, el gordo, you tragic arselicker.

    You may have noticed, or not, that I criticise…not promote. The antithesis of your own sycophantic rubbish.

    I defy you to find examples of me boosting the ALP. In fact, I’ve condemned them several times in only the last several weeks. Take your head out of your arse.

  407. March 23, 2014 6:45 pm

    “most people do not want a radical lurch to the left.”

    What an utter crock!

    The ALP are a long way removed from “a radical lurch to the left.” You must be fucking trolling. 🙄

  408. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 23, 2014 6:57 pm

    “everyone who [in vain] votes here knows this”

    In which case they must be happy with their vote and, more particularly, they must not want radical change. They are entitled to have their vote count as much as yours irrespective of the basis on which they cast it. No use whining about it. I’ve lived in a solid Lib electorate for almost 30 years and voted Labor or Green most of that time but it has never struck me to complain about people who don’t vote the way I would like them to vote. That is their prerogative.

    “The ALP are a long way removed from “a radical lurch to the left.”

    I didn’t mean that as reference to the ALP so much as to the Greens and other fringe leftist parties. What I actually said was: “most people do not want a radical lurch to the left. In which case it is entirely appropriate that fringe extremists have only limited representation in parliament.” Making it clear that I was referring to fringe parties not the ALP.

    People also don’t want to lurch to the right, which is why the fringe right wing parties don’t get traction either.

    As to trolling – the trolling is with those who whine about democratic institutions like letting everyone vote!!!

  409. March 23, 2014 7:01 pm

    “Fuck you, el gordo, you tragic arselicker.”

    HEAR HEAR!

  410. March 23, 2014 7:16 pm

    ” No use whining about it.”

    Acknowledging isn’t whining about it, as far as I’m concerned.

    ” That is their prerogative.”

    Of course.

    ” people who don’t vote the way I would like them to vote.”

    I’m not ‘complaining’, simply stating the fucking obvious. I get the feeling you don’t live in a rural electorate.

    I never, ever whined about other people voting. They are more than welcome to knock themselves out with it. All my commentary claimed was the futility of voting in a ridiculously ‘safe’ seat; ignored by both sides, taken for granted & requisitely exploited by both Parties.

    You should see some of the nutcases who make the ballot paper here. One of them I know personally; a creationist fuckwit who tarnishes the Climate Sceptics Party (admittedly hard to further tarnish) with his allegiance & dumbass letters to the editor in the local rag. As you say, most moderate people stay well clear of voting for such loonys; it is satisfying to see the lack of traction they receive.

    My main points of consternation stem from a metropolitan vs rural electoral mentality. The regional areas make easy sacrifices for cynical politicians with only marginal metropolitan seats in mind.

  411. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 23, 2014 7:36 pm

    “All my commentary claimed was the futility of voting in a ridiculously ‘safe’ seat;”

    OK. But I don’t get what the problem is. Or what the solution is. One thing I do believe is that proportional representation is not the way to go. The Senate is bad enough without inflicting that on the House.

  412. March 23, 2014 7:53 pm

    ”””””””””’the commission thinks it confuses two very different questions:

    whether something is worth building and

    whether it’s better off privately run.

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/productivity-commission-lacks-passion-for-publicprivate-projects-20140322-359yh.html
    ””””””””””””””””’

    This is another `fake` argument, like the many l try to point out, and `our` tea-trolls` try to promote, armchair,

    hocking-off the silverware will eventually fcuk us all over,
    currently, Mr-Rabbit`s zombies are trying twist the nsw premiers arm into floggin`off the electricpower-system,

    yeah, great idea, other states have flogged their electrics, and all it did was fcuk their citizens up with gouging electric-bills,

    so our teabags can`t claim Mr-Rabbit has any fcuking brain what-so-ever, when flogging-off the electrics fails in other states, maybe you don`t try and push for yet another failure

  413. egg permalink
    March 23, 2014 7:54 pm

    ‘You may have noticed, or not, that I criticise…not promote. The antithesis of your own sycophantic rubbish.’

    Oh right, its a game called a ‘pox on both their houses’.

  414. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 23, 2014 8:13 pm

    sb, I don’t think you understand what I am talking about, for me the whole representative democracy thing is a furphy, it is a nice goal to aim for, but if you look closely, it doesn’t exist, especially when you see all the ways that our politicians and parties thwart the will of the people and democracy. If you think what we’ve got is to be saluted benny hill style, without much thought, then you aren’t looking too closely or you are easily fooled. Look at what they do, not what they say. It’s got nothing to do with left or right, it’s about the two major parties bastardising ‘democracy’ as you call it, to advantage themselves.

    The regional areas make easy sacrifices for cynical politicians with only marginal metropolitan seats in mind.

    Do you think your area is taken for granted by your representative simply because it’s a safe seat toilet? Could you see the possibility of a bit of a voter revolt with a ‘safe and acceptable’ independent perhaps as happened in sophie whatsername’s electorate?

  415. March 23, 2014 8:23 pm

    ””’I’m not ‘complaining’, simply stating the fucking obvious.””’

    #fair-enough dunny,

    .

    ”””I get the feeling you don’t live in a rural electorate.””’
    #l doubt `rural` is the only problem,
    .

    ””voting. _welcome to knock themselves out with it.””

    ””my commentary claimed was the futility of voting””

    #l hear`ya dunny, but l suspect `futility` apply`s to most electorates,

    dunny, you indicate that your `seat` is teabag and will not change to any other `stripe`,

    fine, l believe`ya, but that is not really that unique, my `seat` is full of pretty central citizens, not really represented by either side of the duopoly which has left them behind,

    when my `seat` changes, it goes LibLab, LibLab, no fcuking hope for an independent, pup, green, etc what-so-ever, so my `seat` is just as futile for my vote,

    #l suspect a vast majority of seats are like mine dunny, and equally futile,

    #you are not alone

  416. egg permalink
    March 23, 2014 8:26 pm

    ‘The regional areas make easy sacrifices for cynical politicians with only marginal metropolitan seats in mind.’

    That’s always been the case, as I live in the bush its easy to see the pork barrelling going on, but for the most part they only pay lip service.

  417. March 23, 2014 8:34 pm

    ”””the whole representative democracy thing is a furphy, it is a nice goal to aim for, but if you look closely, it doesn’t exist, especially when you see all the ways that our politicians and parties thwart the will of the people and democracy. If you think what we’ve got is to be saluted benny hill style, without much thought, then you aren’t looking too closely or you are easily fooled. Look at what they do, not what they say. It’s got nothing to do with left or right, it’s about the two major parties bastardising ‘democracy’ as you call it, to advantage themselves.”””

    Fully agree armchair.

    So-called democracy is just another `system` that does not aim for excellence and allows the powerful to trough-snout. Apologists Claiming

    `it is still better than other systems` miss the point and fail to judge it by it`s own measures.

  418. Tony permalink
    March 23, 2014 9:30 pm

    The answer is obvious. But first you have to define the problem.

    The problem is not the method by which governments are (s)elected, or even the tyrrany of the majority (although that’s an obvious side effect). The problem is that we allow governments to be involved in, and therefore control, too much stuff.

    The answer is to remove responsibility for as many decisions as possible from the hands of government, and return them to personal choice.

    Where that’s not possible, decisions should be made as close to the individual as possible e.g. local school boards. Where that isn’t possible, then local councils. Where that’s not possible, then state government. Federal governments should be responsible only for protecting the lives, liberty, and property of the people.

  419. egg permalink
    March 23, 2014 9:40 pm

    So we are looking at a movement towards moderate Anarchism. It might work, but the devil will be in the detail.

  420. March 23, 2014 9:44 pm

    superficialbuffoonbarracker`osy, nice regurgitation of teabag theory for simpletons

  421. Tony permalink
    March 23, 2014 9:51 pm

    If you disagree, Bagz, then tell us why. Otherwise you’re just wasting pixels.

  422. Tony permalink
    March 23, 2014 9:52 pm

    *royal “us” alert

  423. egg permalink
    March 23, 2014 10:00 pm

    😉

  424. March 23, 2014 10:02 pm

    So superficialbuffoonbarracker`osy,

    you are not smart enough to `unpack` your ipa blurb ya`self.?

  425. Tony permalink
    March 23, 2014 10:16 pm

    #oxygenthief #packyabagz

  426. March 23, 2014 10:40 pm

    ””’The answer is obvious.””’
    #say the teabags, to a question not yet asked,


    ””’But first you have to define the problem.””’
    #your call, not mine,


    ””’The problem is not the method by which governments are (s)elected,””’
    #says fcuking who.? #simpleton food only


    ””’or even the tyrrany of the majority (although that’s an obvious side
    effect).”””
    #this is moronic for democracy based teabags to say this,
    #teabags usually squeal pro-democracy clap-trap


    ””’The problem is that we allow governments to be involved in, and therefore
    control, too much stuff.””’
    #more food for morons, #no specifics,
    #what don`t teabags want govt not involved in


    ””’The answer is to remove responsibility for as many decisions as possible
    from the hands of government, and return them to personal choice.””’
    #how.? #why.? #when.? #for.?
    #more simpleton fodder


    ””’Where that’s not possible, decisions should be made as close to the
    individual as possible e.g. local school boards. Where that isn’t possible, then
    local councils. Where that’s not possible, then state government.””’
    #yeah, big deal, aint worth spit without funding,
    #funding not mentioned


    ””Federal governments should be responsible only for protecting the lives,
    liberty, and property of the people.””’
    #ya`not even bright enough to realize this is yank-based clap-trap
    #States responsibility in Aust


    #this regurgitation of teabag theory is for simpletons that gather at the borg-blogs like bolts, where imbeciles like dumpty can be fed lots of words, but no detail

  427. Tony permalink
    March 23, 2014 10:54 pm

    “#this is moronic for democracy based teabags to say this,
    #teabags usually squeal pro-democracy clap-trap”

    If you want to discuss the issue in a rational manner (it’s difficult to tell), try it without the labelling and pigeonholing. You might be surprised what some individuals here actually think, if you’d care to listen.

  428. March 24, 2014 12:52 am

    ””’to discuss the issue in a rational manner””’superficialbuffoonbarracker`osy,

    you `should` have included the `source`link to`ya
    ”March 23, 2014 9:30 pm” comment, l have seen it before, or very, very similar on one of the teabag sites, (or maybe kneel or dumpty have dropped it here before)

    .

    And””’to discuss the issue in a rational manner””’superficialbuffoonbarracker`osy,

    there is a little thing called `context`, and if ya`really have a gripe,
    ya`should have the nads to keep the `context`,

    LIKE THIS,
    ””’or even the tyrrany of the majority (although that’s an obvious side effect).”””
    #this is moronic for democracy based teabags to say this,
    #teabags usually squeal pro-democracy clap-trap

    AND THIS,
    ””””””’If you want to discuss the issue in a rational manner (it’s difficult to tell), try it without the labelling and pigeonholing. You might be surprised what some individuals here actually think, if you’d care to listen.”””””’

    #is a pretty piss poor defense of propaganda `you` promoted/dropped

  429. March 24, 2014 1:41 am

    ””””””””””””PNG’s Minister for Foreign Affairs and Immigration, Rimbink Pato, has also confirmed the two governments will move to deny a human rights lawyer’s access to the centre on Monday.

    ”It’s a joint effort. We are the best judges in terms of what’s happening on the ground, but we’re in concert because this is a partnership. We’re together,” Mr Pato said in an exclusive interview.
    http://www.theage.com.au/national/manus-inquiry-cruelled-20140322-35adw.html
    ”””””””””””””””””””’

    #sounds like mr-rabbit has just tipped a truck-load of cash into the manus bottomless-pit, armchair,

    #png`s now singing mr-rabbit`s tune

    .

    ”””””””a PNG government official shut down questions on the centre at a joint media conference of Mr Abbott and Mr O’Neill on Friday.””””””

    #sounds familiar

  430. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 24, 2014 9:38 am

    Who would know whether they’re debating with Teabagsz ?

    The incomprehensible grammar and lack of logic renders dialogue pointless.

  431. Dianne permalink
    March 24, 2014 10:00 am

    Love Teabag.

    I could set your words to music.

    Very McCarthur Park.

    I can always understand.

  432. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    March 24, 2014 10:18 am

    Someone left the cake out in the rain… far too long.

  433. Dianne permalink
    March 24, 2014 10:31 am

    All the sweet green icing flowing down.
    Cue violins

  434. March 24, 2014 10:33 am

    And I dont think that I can take it, cos it took so long to bake it…

    And I’ll never have that teabag, again…. Oh nooooooooo…

    Oh nooooooooooooooooes!

  435. Walrus permalink
    March 24, 2014 11:07 am

    That song must have been easily the worst track ever until the Bay City Rollers hit the airwaves

  436. Walrus permalink
    March 24, 2014 11:08 am

    TB is back I see

    So how was the trip ?

  437. egg permalink
    March 24, 2014 11:21 am

    I think he’s still up in the air, until later today.

  438. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 24, 2014 12:27 pm

    It’s a joint effort. We are the best judges in terms of what’s happening on the ground, but we’re in concert because this is a partnership. We’re together,” Mr Pato said in an exclusive interview.

    The single most disgusting statement ever, “we are the best judges” No need for inquiries and people looking in, we judge ourselves. Do they condemn themselves and give themselves any punishment? PNG being the paragon of human behaviour. The responsible authorities ‘judging’, not even investigating themselves, who can have a problem with that? Not tony abbott.

    And the abbott is in full agreement, standing there nodding, which shows his honesty about what has happened on his watch. He hides behind the png minister of a well known corrupt political administration, what a gutless wonder.

    Obviously there will be nothing good come out of it for png or australia, so shut it all down, they’re only ‘illegals’ anyway.

  439. March 24, 2014 12:48 pm

    ” they’re only ‘illegals’ anyway.”

    I think they’re called “transferees” these days….

    Heaven forbid we actually call them “people”….

  440. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 24, 2014 1:01 pm

    That would give them human status reb and we might then feel obliged to treat them as fellow humans.

  441. Dianne permalink
    March 24, 2014 1:08 pm

    Armchair – the President of the Human Rights Commission, Prof Gillian Triggs, said today that children detained on Christmas Island were now developmental retarded and that they referred to themselves by a number.

    What is wrong with us?

  442. Dianne permalink
    March 24, 2014 1:08 pm

    Developmentally

  443. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 24, 2014 1:33 pm

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/24/tony-abbott-png-asylum-refugees-australia

    [michelle grattan]…And both countries appear to care less and less (if that’s possible) about the human rights of the people on Manus – their prime preoccupation being to limit information coming out that might be embarrassing or damaging…

    …Abbott was pressed while in PNG on when and how come things had changed – he just avoided answering…

    …Cannings took journalists when he visited the detention centre late last week, obviously to the annoyance of both governments.

    Next thing, his inquiry – which the judge himself had initiated – was shut down by the PNG government…
    …The judge is now opening a new inquiry.

    The reporting by the journalists who visited the centre indicated conditions that should be totally unacceptable…

    This is how ‘the adults’ run things.

    The journos are right to refer to it as australia’s guantanamo bay. How did these people and families get to be treated as terrorists and criminals with the approval of the australian population?

  444. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 24, 2014 1:44 pm

    dianne, we ought to be ashamed and horrified at what is being done in our names, instead half the population is ecstatic about the war on defenceless asylum seekers, happy to have no information and no oversight, happy for them to be locked away, tortured and neglected, never to be seen again. Doesn’t even matter if they are murdered.

    We cannot call ourselves a civilised society when we behave like barbarians.

  445. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 24, 2014 1:54 pm

    Maybe if there was some sense of shame from those whose policies caused 1100 drownings they would have a skerrick of credibility. Instead of congratulating the government for stopping the drownings they agitate for policies which will result in even more deaths.

  446. March 24, 2014 2:13 pm

    Instead of congratulating the government for stopping the drownings…yada yada..pamphlet pamphlet pamphlet puff.

    I congratulate the government for drowning in its own policies

  447. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 24, 2014 2:16 pm

    I’m pretty sure that there was a great sense of shame from half the population at the loss of 1100 lives. There was always a vocal opposition to the labor government’s asylum seeker policies, just as there is to coalition policy. Don’t assume we ever approved any of the pacific solutions and beyond.

  448. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 24, 2014 2:28 pm

    Don’t assume that I even approve of indefinite mandatory detention, because I don’t, let alone approval of mainland excision and off shore detentions in third world countries. I don’t approve or support any of it.

  449. egg permalink
    March 24, 2014 2:30 pm

    ‘Don’t assume we ever approved any of the pacific solutions and beyond.’

    Using the royal ‘we’ is unacceptable. Didn’t Rudd agree to the Pacific Solution before the election?

  450. Dianne permalink
    March 24, 2014 3:11 pm

    I know wrong from right and I know if you locked up small children in unsavory conditions in stifling heat and denied them access to education, play space and stimulation. And then addressed them by a number you would end up on a Current Affair and called monsters on the front page of every newspaper in the land. And rightly so.

  451. Dianne permalink
    March 24, 2014 3:12 pm

    Monsters

  452. Dianne permalink
    March 24, 2014 3:15 pm

    And you would be dragged off to court to face trial by a judge and jury. And you would probably be imprisoned if not deemed to be insane.

  453. March 24, 2014 4:17 pm

    ”””””””children detained on Christmas Island were now developmental retarded and that they referred to themselves by a number.””””””””

    the canberra clowns reckon they`re humane coz they don`t tattoo it on their forearm

    .

    ”””’What is wrong with us?”””

    lts not `us` so-much Dianne, but the turds in charge,

    aided and abetted by teabag-media, screeching as much `white-noise` as possible, this inflicts on the `viewers` things like `attention-fatigue` and `information-overload`, (there are more, but l forget)

    and these things have a `mind-numbing` effect on viewers, particularly busy, time-poor viewers that no longer have the `energy` to participate in the political and community arena`s

  454. March 24, 2014 5:37 pm

    “Oh right, its a game called a ‘pox on both their houses’.”

    No, it’s an observation.

    I don’t pander to anyone. Unlike you.

  455. egg permalink
    March 24, 2014 5:51 pm

    ‘I don’t pander to anyone. Unlike you.’

    So you think I pander to the vile tastes of vulgar people.

    ** chuckle **

  456. March 24, 2014 11:33 pm

    ””’So you think I pander to the vile tastes of vulgar people”””

    Your own body of work indicates you do,

    https://theguttertrash.com/co2-and-you-iv/

  457. armchair opinionator permalink
    March 25, 2014 12:04 am

    Using the royal ‘we’ is unacceptable. Didn’t Rudd agree to the Pacific Solution before the election?

    do you confuse me with rudd?

  458. egg permalink
    March 25, 2014 6:38 am

    do you confuse me with rudd?

    My bad, anyway it was a bipartisan arrangement between the majors at the last election.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/kevin-rudd-to-unveil-manus-island-expansion-plan-in-bid-to-stop-boats/story-fn9hm1gu-1226681830019

  459. egg permalink
    March 25, 2014 6:45 am

    ‘Your own body of work indicates you do,’

    Only time will tell short arse, but I have it on good authority that the system is working naturally.

  460. egg permalink
    March 25, 2014 6:54 am

    ‘Voter satisfaction with Bill Shorten has lifted slightly but the dramatic decision of assistant treasurer Arthur Sinodinos to step aside in relation to a NSW corruption hearing appears not to have hit the Abbott government in the past two weeks.

    ‘The Opposition Leader’s satisfaction rating has lifted, from 33 per cent to 36 per cent, the first rise since a steady fall from 44 per cent last December to his lowest of 33 per cent two weeks ago.’

    Shanahan / Oz

  461. egg permalink
    March 25, 2014 7:11 am

    ‘The so-called conservatives who berate the ABC are not conservatives but heretics, radicals, vulgarians … ‘

    Don Watson

  462. Dianne permalink
    March 25, 2014 7:58 am

    And the Lib Party are hardly conservatives either. Radical libertarians with anarchistic tendencies in an uneasy relationship with agrarian socialists. Something has to give.

    Btw – amused at a story in today’s AFR. US republicans are calling Gina Rinehart for being a corporate welfare queen. It seems the US taxpayer has just forked out a $700,000,000 plus loan for hr Roy Hill proposal.

    Armchair has made a good point about the BrandisBlurt and that fellow who menaced the French tourist. Barrister Chris Murphy has tweeted a reminder that in recent years lambasted a Queensland school for having a book critical of Robert Menzies in its library.

  463. Tony permalink
    March 25, 2014 8:08 am

    “And the Lib Party are hardly conservatives either. Radical libertarians with anarchistic tendencies in an uneasy relationship with agrarian socialists. Something has to give.”

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You just don’t get it, do you Di? They’re all Teabags!

  464. Dianne permalink
    March 25, 2014 8:29 am

    Ha ha Tony. They are certainly a billy pot of heady brew at the moment.

  465. Dianne permalink
    March 25, 2014 8:31 am

    Black. Thick. Spitting. Bubbling over. A few gum leaves added for nostalgia.

  466. March 28, 2014 11:23 am

    Tim Dunlop on the media ignoring March in March….

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-27/dunlop-rage-against-the-mainstream/5348152

  467. egg permalink
    March 28, 2014 11:37 am

    A rag tag army of 100,000 leftoids and watermelons marching isn’t newsworthy.

  468. Splatterbottom permalink
    March 28, 2014 11:53 am

    Seems that the exhibitionists are sad that they did not get enough publicity. Why is this such a big deal anyway? What difference does it make? It is just more political theatre from the usual suspects. Can’t wait for May Day to roll around. Maybe another round of Occupy as well.

    Fourteen years ago 300,000 people marched across the Harbour Bridge in the name of reconciliation. Now that was a march!

  469. Jherek Jagged permalink
    March 28, 2014 12:12 pm

    A rag tag army of 100,000 leftoids and watermelons marching isn’t newsworthy.

    But a couple of trucked in rent a crowds deserves blanket 24/7 coverage.

    Please, the bias exhibited by the msm between the two is breathtaking, but entirely predictable within the cloistered Aussie churnalists

  470. egg permalink
    March 28, 2014 12:43 pm

    JJ you are suffering from confirmation bias.

    The trucked in ‘rent a crowd’ of that earlier demonstration may have got more coverage, but it was a joke. Nobody takes these organised gatherings seriously, except the rusted ons.

  471. Jherek Jagged permalink
    March 28, 2014 12:57 pm

    may have got more coverage

    That’s kinda the point pinky 😯

  472. Walrus permalink
    March 28, 2014 1:22 pm

    At risk of stating the fucking obvious Perhaps it had something to do with the TV Networks having problems broadcasting images of signs saying “Fuck this and Fuck that and Abbott can get fucked ” etc etc in prime time

    100,000 abnormals are a very ugly sight compared to a few hundred whose worst bit of signage was “Ditch the Witch”

    But pea brain Lefties fail to see the fucking obvious

  473. egg permalink
    March 28, 2014 1:22 pm

    It would have been better if the convoy to Canberra had got less coverage, they looked a laughing stock.

  474. egg permalink
    March 28, 2014 1:28 pm

    ‘But pea brain Lefties fail to see the fucking obvious’

    Its confirmation bias.

    JJ if you would care to step out to the back room I’m trying to tackle the problem with alternative views, not just Denialati groupthink.

  475. Jherek Jagged permalink
    March 28, 2014 1:37 pm

    Perhaps it had something to do with the TV Networks having problems broadcasting images of signs saying “Fuck this and Fuck that and Abbott can get fucked ”

    These hate media articles didn’t have a problem, even with their wide angle shots. In fact, the shock jocks had to go out of their way to try and find them. Whereas, all you had to do at the convoy of no consequence was look for a liberal member

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opinion/tory-shepherd-grabbag-of-rage-as-the-march-in-march-was-much-ado-about-nothing/story-fni6unxq-1226858515087

  476. March 28, 2014 4:31 pm

    We will decide what news is and the manner in which it is reported! #guffaw
    .
    ””””””Maley admits there were a “grab bag” of things people were objecting to, so why not examine them?
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-27/dunlop-rage-against-the-mainstream/5348152
    ””””””””””””””””’

    #more classic maley (not in a good way), now dunlop has noticed

    ””””””””The fact is, the media’s lame response to an estimated 100,000 citizens showing up on the streets around the country is indicative of a deeper malaise: the rules of news have changed, and increasingly legacy media companies have neither the capacity nor the wit to operate in the new environment.”””””””””

    #beyond being glorified troll-farms that is,

    #nice find reb-a-roo 🙂 🙂 🙂

  477. March 28, 2014 4:57 pm

    “It would have been better if the convoy to Canberra had got less coverage, they looked a laughing stock.”

    Sensible comments like this make it very difficult for a man to prosecute a continuing hate war against your comments. 🙂

  478. egg permalink
    March 28, 2014 5:11 pm

    I’ll take that as a compliment.

  479. March 28, 2014 5:13 pm

    And an apology of sorts.

  480. egg permalink
    March 28, 2014 5:14 pm

    Accepted.

  481. Philip Carter permalink
    May 6, 2014 10:39 am

    “When something important is going on, silence is a lie.” – A. M. Rosenthal.

  482. egg permalink
    May 6, 2014 10:48 am

    Yes.

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