Voters turn on Abbott after Horror Budget!
Support for the Abbott Government has nose-dived following a litany of broken promises and savage cuts to health, welfare and education unveiled in Joe Hockey’s first budget as Treasurer.
A Nielsen poll in the Fairfax newspapers has the Coalition down four points and Labor up four points on a two-party preferred basis, with Labor in front 56 to 44 per cent.
On the Prime Minister’s performance, just 34 per cent approve of Tony Abbott’s efforts, while approval of Opposition Leader Bill Shorten’s performance is up to 47 per cent.
Mr Abbott’s disapproval rating climbed to 62 per cent.
Sixty-three per cent of people said the budget was not fair, and 53 per cent thought it was bad for Australia.
The Newspoll published in The Australian has Labor in front 55 to 45 per cent on a two-party preferred basis.
Forty-four per cent of voters told Newspoll they thought Mr Shorten would make a better prime minister than Tony Abbott, who was on 34 per cent.
Almost two-thirds of voters believe the budget was not fair; the highest proportion (by far) to say that about any of the budgets tested since 1996.
The previous record high was 43 per cent who rated Wayne Swan’s final budget in 2013 as not fair.
Other budget numbers are just as bad: 65 per cent are dissatisfied, and for the first time a majority, 53 per cent, think the budget will be bad for the country. A record 74 per cent believe the budget will make them worse off.
Unusually, the budget appears to have had an immediate political impact. For the first time since 2010, Labor is ahead of the Coalition on primary votes and Tony Abbott’s approval numbers are among the worst ever for a prime minister.
Mr Abbott’s net approval is at minus 28 per cent. This means that a lot more people disapprove of the job he is doing than approve.
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No surprise here. The government will now be mired in a futile war to legislate their misconceived policies. Each twist and turn will be excruciating for them as they beg, cajole and further debase themselves trying to deals with the Senate. Each day they will look more ridiculous and each day will focus attention on the broken promises and the incoherent policy choices. The polls are only going to get worse.
“The polls are only going to get worse.”
I sincerely hope so…
#onetermtony
He should go back to the people and this time tell them the fkn troof before the election. Of course they will lose and then we can all get on with spending our grandchildren’s money.
“Its not my job to win a popularity contest”
About as popular as a fart in a crowded lift. Satisfaction rating -30. Beige Bill Shortman is beating him.. Bwahhaaa 🙂
This unworthy bullshitting fucktard fundamentalist fop is self destructing.
#onetermtoney
Bottom line…. Ideology wrapped around faux economics, trying to scare people.
A single income family on a bit above the median income we will be about $2,600 worse off under this budget. Someone on $200,000 p.a. will be a whopping $400 worse off.
Who’s doing the
heavy liftingclass warfare?For an imaginary
budget emergencypolitical lie.‘Putting the n back in ‘cuts’‘
That’s funny.
Abbott is hated by is friends as much as by his enemies. Few if any believe that the budget will actually do anything positive for the economy.
The Libs gambled that they would be able to convince the electorate that the measures were harsh but necessary. Virtually no one believes this. If everybody is feeling the pain for no good reason then the only way from here is down.
I expect he has a Plan B.
Very wise SB.
Yes, the risk for Abbott is that he’s burnt political capital in announcing all this and now won’t get much of it through the senate.
People will remember that he tried to break his commitments, they won’t be thanking him for being unsuccessful in the attempt.
Abbottsolutely Splatter…. Nobody believes it because its all based in evangelistic faith, denial and delivered by a socially disconnected sociopath with no empathy…
What did people think? Abbott would grow into the job like a new improved messiah of aspirant trickledown
affluenceeffluentWell Plan A was to trick gullible fucktards in denial into voting for him and win at any cost Plan B was to try it all on at once saying to wake of victims you will love me for it and build altars to my greatness… Tony would have made a great serial killer or cult leader…..no cards left #onetermtony
The NSW Government says it will have to close 300 hospital beds due to federal budget cuts http://ab.co/1hWkD6D
‘Plan B was to try it all on at once saying to wake of victims you will love me for it and build altars to my greatness…’
That’s about right, infrastructure.
To add to the Lib’s credibility woes, ICAC today sees Darren Webber, another Lib MP who had a convienently broken hard drive, got $50k from a sham company for downloading press releases, described his work not as political advice but as IT Consulting services in invoices (prepared well after the event), didn’t do tax returns for three years (until contacted by ICAC) and can’t point to any documentary evidence that he actually did any work.
Before his political career Webber was an apprentice for eight years but failed to complete a trade. He had a large credit card debt and seems to have been paid in cash. Fortunately ICAC was able to match withdrawals from the account of another suspect character with Webber’s deposits.
Where do the Libs get such quality candidates?
The bigger question question, beyond the illegal donations and the payments to people like Webber, is the benefits that the ultimate payers received and the kickbacks to the Liberal party officials who are/were also lobbyists.
I am starting to think it is a waste of time to try and repair the budget.
The story is all too familiar. Labor gets in and trashes the budget. The Libs get in and start to try and live within our means. They get abused for being mean and nasty. So far the Libs have been successful cleaning up ALP mess. eg Kennet in Victoria and Howard/Costello.
But what is the point this time?? Labor will get back in eventually and trash the budget again.
LOL! @ sreb! That headline is exceptional! … best you’ve come up with so far!
That should make you famous in the blog world at least!
LOL!
Why thank you TB… 🙂
BTW I told my dad the joke about the scottish guy and the mouse…
He loved it!
Where do the Libs get such quality candidates?
But once again, sb, its not just the Libs … although there seems to be a lot more shonky book manipulation than the ALP union bosses who just simply steal the money … fk the paper trail …
The real question is why do people vote for these wankers!
On another level I still can’t understand why people would vote a 20 year old into Federal Parliament …
Eight years and still didn’t complete an apprenticeship!?!?!
What a surprise, the hacks and warlords combine to stave off more participation by actual people in the ALP!!
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/factional-enemies-thwart-bill-shorten-reform/story-fn59niix-1226922103443#
Tony Abbott has conceded the government is cutting a hospitals funding agreement with immediate effect, contrary to his weekend claim that the cuts did not take effect for years…..
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/19/hospital-cuts-begin-july-tony-abbott-admits?CMP=soc_567
BTW I told my dad the joke about the scottish guy and the mouse…
Thanks for the feedback … nice to hear … 🙂
I was also telling that joke all weekend – hilarious!
Tony Abbott has conceded the government is cutting a hospitals funding agreement with immediate effect
Insincere or incompetent … or both!
I was also telling that joke all weekend – hilarious!
Thanks, ToM, I had stopped dropping them here but I’ll start again (occasionally!) … it does get “heavy” here sometimes … 🙂
…most come from the old farts at the model railway club or from my son’s (and mine) ADF mates …
Why didn’t abbott realise he was more exposed than any other after the brutal methods he employed on gillard? Perhaps they think we’ll get over it by the next election.
Wonder if the party discipline will start to disintegrate now?
Why lying politicians should resign … but don’t:
http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2014/05/18/abbott-resign-broken-promises/
There’s a lot of citizen revolt and civil unrest about too 🙂
Tony Abbott has conceded the government is cutting a hospitals funding agreement with immediate effect, contrary to his weekend claim…
A pathological liar, he just can’t tell the truth? Where are all those blokes who were so in love with abbott and his ‘refreshing honesty’ just a few months ago?
Newsflash for Neil:
“53 per cent said it would not be good for Australia – the first time in the history of the poll that the budget is regarded as actually bad for the country.”
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-pays-price-for-broken-promises-20140518-38hzw.html#ixzz327tiM7oc
chris davis [junior health minister sacked by newman] has turned honesty and integrity into a vote winner. Shows just how voters are fed up with machine politics.
The party vs the people, also playing out in federal politics. So far the people have been the losers, will the voters ever be included in our political system other than being allowed to vote [in a rigged game]?
Funny how money just keeps showing up in some people’s bank accounts:
Newsflash for Neil:
lol 🙂
Adolph Abbott does have a soft side of course …
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/tony-abbotts-south-africa-australia-intercountry-adoption-program-change-will-help-five-children/story-fnet085v-1226920441668
PR much? … under normal circumstances I’d apologise for being cynical …
Bullies, cheats and liars are primarily cowards …
Do these people actually talk to anyone?
Heads up their arses … still they will eventually suffocate on their own stink …
(Not even I know what I mean much of the time, TB; still, I did find that one of the more active netizens over at the Other Place had referenced this, Abbott’s war on Australia ( http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16315&page=0 ), which might add or detract from a fair-ish? ( http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/rawls/ ) review of the plethora of reviews scheduled to issue from the Abbott-LNP Government’s extended infrastructure programme.)
Thanks M … I’ll ‘ave a look … ‘tother place is a bit too biased for me … 😉
M, you knew I’d concur with that almost word for word! Even to a commenter’s mention of Robber Barons …
Thank goodness that some of us are aware that this is all about making more profit as cheaply as possible …
This has been going on for centuries … my own introduction to the $$ mindset came in my early twenties … as rumours do, it was made known that our general manager had commented at an exec meeting … “workers are like leaves from a tree – they arrive and they grow and then they fall – knew ones will just take their place” … and later … “workers are like pencils – you use them until they break and then just get another one …”
What is frightening is that so many people didn’t see this coming … and … like the Third Reich this regime actually believes that what they are doing is right … “The Budget” will go down in history as a blatant, ideological, revenge attack on the nation …
Only two more to go … just in case you’d forgotten
either everyone is off marching, at CW, having dinner (bit early) or we’ve chased ’em off, M
http://www.news.com.au/national/eight-church-leaders-detained-for-refusing-to-leave-tony-abbotts-electoral-office/story-fncynjr2-1226922778876
I’ve been wondering where the “good” folk were … still no organised religious protest over the budget (happy to be corrected) …
LOL! Forgive him for he knows not what he says ….
http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/palmer-united-party-a-cult-barnaby-joyce/story-fnii5v6w-1226922461372
GO CLIVEY!
TB, that place only gets lively if one of their “trolls” turns up. It relies on (tame) partisan conflict. Without that, they don’t have much to say – there’s little camaraderie or humour.
Wait for the story about Beyond Billabong from Queensland … awarded a $2 mill contract by the Attorney General Bleijie, after/before donating to the LNP … and they were not considerd suitable by his own department … the front runners had tendered @ $1 mill …
Can’t find details …
Robber Barons at work! (With OUR money)
Maybe when they sting Squeals ball sack he will wake TF up… doubt it though 🙄
http://m.smh.com.au/money/budgets-secret-sting-for-pensioners-and-matureage-workers-20140516-zreh5.html
Penny cutting through the shit and telling it like it actually is..
‘What is frightening is that so many people didn’t see this coming … ‘
Nothing has happened yet, I’m still confident he’ll pull a rabbit out of the hat, a vision splendid. If I’m wrong, then he’s a lame duck.
That’s the wonderful thing about democracy, we can throw the buggers out in due course if they are not performing to our satisfaction.
Not too many defenders around, I notice.
It’s like that when confronted with the indefensible.
Silence can sometimes be taken for tacit disapproval…or not.
I love how AbbottCorp is being eaten by its own base.
Most punters ARE NOT ideologues. They have wants & needs grounded in day to day life. Beyond push button manipulations, apparently.
Still…early days. Which is why AbbottCorp showing its hand may have been a little premature.
The Bolter is blaming the media.
” If I’m wrong”
What do u mean “if?”
“The Bolter is blaming the media.”
How surprisement.
“Nothing has happened yet”
You may be right.
‘You may be right.’
Hockey has been moving the chairs about, its now more weighted towards infrastructure .
You may be right.
Good link, ToSY … seems all they have done is upset a lot (a VERY LOT) of people for no gain and in fact the changes would take a lot of spending power out of the economy – creating a self-fulfilling prophecy …
++++++++++++++++++++++
Maybe when they sting Squeals ball sack he will wake TF up… doubt it though
RP, that sting will put a big hole in our budget!
Catallaxy people are not happy but it is unlikely they will vote for the ALP. I liked this guys comment
“AUSTRALIA 2007 No debt, no deficit, no interest. and AUD40 bn in the bank.
AUSTRALIA 2013 $123bn on the credit card, $667pn on the mortgage, and $12bn .p.a. interest.
Well Done, Julia, Kev and Bill….and Penny and Steve, and Anthony, and Roxy, Wayne and…..and….
Triple A losers, everyone of them
And now Electricity Bill wants to stop anyone from cleaning up the mess.”
Latest Roy Morgan Poll… Labor 57.5 LNP 42.5 The beginning of the end of one of the lowest Ebbs in Australian political history with the worst and most unworthy PM’s ever elected in Australian history. Unanimously despised by even his own party. I sugest that the fiberal “bored” room will be playing re-runs of Malcolm in the Middle very shortly.
http://www.roymorgan.com/morganpoll?to=b6912c8233db485c8b66c63cfa57447c
So let me get this Right Egg, they stop a major infrastructure project, fuck it up..claiming it was mismanaged to build infrastructure after his mentor Honest John Built fuck all while they sell infrastructure and thats gonna save them?
You’re so fucking stupid you’d vote for these Cu
NtsYou can’t put brains in a statue TB 🙄
‘So let me get this Right Egg’
All I’m sayin’ is that if there is no rail infrastructure mooted soon, then Abbott is dead meat.
What like selling this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Rail_Track_Corporation
and this? Egg
http://www.finance.gov.au/property/property/moorebank-intermodal-freight-terminal/
Selling old infrastructure to build new.
‘The federal government has unveiled an $11.6 billion transport infrastructure package for Australia that will take total federal spending to $50 billion by 2019-20.
‘It says the investment will in turn spur state and private sector investment in roads and rail across the continent and could spur up to $125 billion total investment by 2019-20.’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/record-injection-for-wa-infrastructure-20140514-zrbvp.html#ixzz32A6KVppM
A fake `budget emergency` can only get you so far, teabags. 🙂
”””further debase themselves”””
agree, but don`t worry, it`s their specialty
don`t go gettin`too excited with`ya roy morgan there ricky,
there is still two`plus years available to `team-albo` for it to shoot itself in the foot
You are fucking kidding right? You’re taking the piss…
Egg Sound like much like Q and A tonight, heavy grifting masquerading as heavy lifting.
http://wackywipes.bigcartel.com/
We are already paying higher interest rates on the debt Labor created than other major countries but if this happens they will get even higher.
http://www.afr.com/p/national/australia_aaa_credit_rating_at_risk_5qqhkQyjknWnUmQ6RXwPLK
“Ratings agency Standard & Poor’s is warning Australia’s prized AAA credit rating could be reviewed unless substantial cuts are made to the budget in coming years.
In an unusually forthright warning, a lead sovereign analyst for S&P, Craig Michaels, said he was counting on the Abbott government to win Senate approval for at least “some” of its $37 billion in planned savings against opposition from Labor, which has pledged to veto about $18 billion in cuts and tax rises.”
‘You are fucking kidding right? You’re taking the piss…’
Without looking for the detail the government is offering incentives to the states to lease ports and sell old infrastructure to fund new infrastructure.
NSW could scoop $30 billion if they sold their poles and wires to a foreign consortium.
SMH former editor blows whistle on her fkn male colleagues.
“While I acknowledged at the time I had a lot to learn as a leader, I was ill prepared for the inevitable gender criticism,” Wilson wrote in The Guardian online.
‘… the former editor detailed a poison letter from a staffer describing her as a “shallow, talentless, fat-arsed and unloved bitch with no leadership qualities”.
“a “shallow, talentless, fat-arsed and unloved bitch with no leadership qualities”.
Priceless.
Bush Economics..
http://m.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/coalition-ridiculed-over-bad-policies-20140519-38k7y.html
Joe was doing the “Heavy Grifting” skit last night on Q and A. He provided some great comic relief for the Audience
Q; Do you feel you have to lie to get into government
A; No
Riotous laughter as Joe remained deadpan ,,, twas such a performance, he’s a shoe in for a Logie 4 sure. Oh how we laughed 🙂
So they know Joe then?
I shall need to go through Smokin’ Joe’s testimony last night but there were quite a few contradictions (and/or details missed) in many of his replies … and the young bloke from Taswegia really did own him last night …
The more I listen to and read Hockey and Abbott on the budget the more I’m convinced they really don’t have a fkn clue about action and reaction and subsequent consequence of actions … very, very amateur …
And his comment referring to the $7 c0-payment as a tax – you can call it a rabbit – well we all know who the rabbits are and myxomatosis is still around – in many forms … the senate, the ballot box … maybe the new GG (although Peter seems to be a staunch Liberal) …
Hockey flags rise in super access age…
http://www.theage.com.au/money/super-and-funds/hockey-flags-rise-in-super-access-age-20140520-38l3d.html
He was his bitch to borrow a favorite teabagism….
Big on Ideology..short on answers. Unravel the methodology of the assumptions that underpin this agenda laden budget and the over riding meme is most definitely class warfare steeped in faux fear. The more they explain themselves (Shepard included) the more amateurish and “childish it looks”
Hokey looked like he should have been back in the Deli he was so ham fisted.. A shining example of the arrogance of this government, where ability is ankle tripping them up whilst the arrogant face of lofty moral superiority attempts to peak over a hair of truth in the gutter pretending to be the high bar….
Out of the mouth of babes.. He’s a baddie 🙂
Abbott can’t even count on the <a href="http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2014/05/joe-hockeys-lead-balloon/"Quadrant crowd to support his budget.
No New Taxes
Big New Tax
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/23664781/hockey-flags-first-term-changes-to-super/
RP, this explains the “sting”, we were discussing yesterday, a little better …
http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/budget-has-few-surprises-for-age-pensioners-selffunded-retirees-20140513-3884t.html
Love that vid of the kids ricky 🙂
As far as I’m concerned, team abbott are going to be flat out selling this shit s/wich, they’ll be pushing shit uphill until the next election.
Bring on the protests, the civil disobedience and determination to see this govt out at the next election.
Joe took a battering last night on Q&A, the people put him right on the spot, he ended up in a sweat, tassie guy was fantastic!
Students’ violence is wrong, but what about politicial violence?:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/20/students-violence-is-wrong-but-what-about-politicial-violence
Standard and Poor’s says Australian rating safe from budget blocks:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-20/standard-and-poors-says-australian-rating-safe-from-budget-bloc/5464482?section=business
Well trust the ABC to toe the ALP line. Fact is another 3 or 4 years of Wayne Swan deficits means we will have to start paying more for borrowed money. And that appears to be what Standard and Poor’s are saying. And we are already paying double the interest rates the Europeans pay.
And worse, we have to fund our borrowing with foreign money. The Europeans can fund their borrowings from within their own countries. We cannot.
“As far as I’m concerned, team abbott are going to be flat out selling this shit s/wich, they’ll be pushing shit uphill until the next election.”
Any idea of how to stop us losing our AAA credit rating????
Must be nice to live in leftie la la land.
Yeah I read that article yesterday TB… I stand by my assertion that this budget is big on “try it on ideology” steeped in faux alarmist agenda based political polemic. Most of the devil’s in detail is designed to give the illusion that they are dishing out the necessary snake oil. Joe’s medicine show cure for a media induced mass Hypochondriasis is largely economic placebo which will not address long term physical structure.
Most of the measures are based upon “economic projections” as far out as 2035 and when pressed for detail they allude to this enormous Physical problem they say we have, yet every credible economist in the world says does not exist.
Combine this with the fact that Abbott is an economic imbecile and Hokey just don’t add up nor can he explain himself, its bizarre and disastrous. I mean why wage war on ordinary voters so flagrantly other than to enforce ideology or commit political suicide? Its just so amateurish.
This punctuating each rhetorical sentence with the words “deficit” “emergency” for the benefit of economic simpletons, doing the polar opposite of what they said they would do and be will not see the voting public, nor history treat them with anything but the disdain they have duly earned.
And worse, we have to fund our borrowing with foreign money. The Europeans can fund their borrowings from within their own countries. We cannot.
Where do you get this shit from, Kneel …
Maybe if we didn’t fund the wannabe Robber Barons … rather than shaft the poor, the weak, the young and old and frail …
Must be nice to live in leftie la la land.
I know who lives in fkn la la land …
Any idea of how to stop us losing our AAA credit rating????
don’t almost double the deficit ceiling, that could help. And as clive says “make business pay a GST, they don’t pay any now” rather than increase it so that the poor pay more for food from a lesser income base.
“Where do you get this shit from, Kneel …”
I heard it on the radio. Apparently we only fund one-third of government bonds from Australian lenders. The other two-thirds comes from overseas.
I heard that Europeans can fund their own debt on the radio as well. But as well all know China has lent the USA a lot of money. So it looks like the Americans cannot fund their own deficit spending either. Not sure what percentage the Chinese have of USA bonds.
Sqweals
JUST FUCK OFF
YOU ADD NOTHING
MADE NO POINT
MAKE NO SENSE
Any idea of how to stop us losing our AAA credit rating?
Maybe they should ask for some advice from the Worlds Greatest Treasurer?
Jesus! It’s Tom R!
Saints preserve us! 🙂
great to see you tomR, i have missed you!
Maybe they should ask for some advice from the Worlds Greatest Treasurer?
😆
What I see is a government who has breached a fundamental faith of the people. We have always proudly supported universal health care, been happy to pay for it through our taxes to support anyone who needs medical attention, rich or poor.
Don’t think we asked for fighter jets and best medical research which is likely to benefit private interests, funded by the taxes of the poor and the sick. Medical research is good but not at the expense of the elderly and the sick.
There is an argument that medical research should be from philosophical funding of the wealthy profiteers, something they can actually give back to the taxpayers that have assisted with their wealth creation.
Saints preserve us!
Don’t bring them into it now reb.
Crows preserve, now that I’d be happy with 😉
great to see you tomR, i have missed you!
Good to see you still here AO. Feeling is mutual. Don’t know if I’ll hang around long or not. posting has become extremely erratic for me lately. Maybe that’s a good thing 🙂
Saints preserve us!
Yes … my son?
G’day TR!!!!!
And as clive says “make business pay a GST, they don’t pay any now” …
Keep the MRRT but change the name to simply Business Super Profits Tax … and aim it squarely at the banks and any business making outrageous profits …
Particularly banks … who suck the public dry just doing, well, nowt!
Robber Barons at work!
Hi Tom.
Hi yáll
BSPT, I like it TB. If they could get Google to fork out ……
Problem solvered. Even hockeynomics could operate in that environment
Daydreams I’m afraid, TR … ’tis like two steps forward and one step back …
Or is it one step forward and two steps back?
At the moment TB, it’s just three steps back 😦
Lookin after their mates indeed
http://m.theage.com.au/comment/scoresettling-budget-looks-after-mates-20140519-zrhbg.html
Lookin after their mates indeed
It’s the eternal lie they’ve told
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMlaFD3s-1s
Of course I meant
Not
but were getting
Saw an article in guardian about the student debt also being s exist. A female nurse who has time out to have a baby will face a hecs debt of $50,300 and will take 39 yrs to pay off the debt compared to a male nurse’s 30 yrs & 38,500 liability.
Sorry can’t link as at work now.
Mirrabella lecturing students on politics and the Media?
What advice should she possibly give?
1. Suck your Professors Cock
2. Ask him nicely to speak to his mates about preselection
3. Suck some more cock
4. Get pre selection in a safe seat
5. Be a complete Cunt
6. Stand in front of possibly the most offensive sign to females in Australian political history.
7. Be such a cunt that people send money from all around the country to an independent they don’t even know so as to get you assholed out of your safe seat as a guarantee they never see you in another fluoro again
8. Suck more cock and get put on boards…
She has many acquired skills to digest. She really is at the Jiz of it.
And her Media skills are Legendary
Might have been this one AO
News that women will pay 30% more in student debt under the Abbott government’s changes to higher education will be ignored by the denialists who believe sexism is a figment of the female imagination. Yet, this news is the perfect example of Australia’s sexism.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/20/mothers-to-pay-more-in-student-debt-thats-australias-sexism-for-you
No it was the one above that link tomr called “mothers face more interest on loans”
AO/TR, as I said earlier the more I read about this amateur budget the more it demonstrates we have too many clowns and magicians in the circus …. BTW I know a really good knife thrower 🙂
Well after reading the recent comments i am glad i am not a Labor supporter.
You people are nothing but nasty human beings. Just like the people who went after Mirabella who is not even in Parliament. Lefties are natural totalitarians.
No wonder most ALP programs do not work
“lefties are natural totalitarians”
Unlike the natural fascism of the right wing fucktards eh?
I think we learnt who the nasty ones are with this Bourgeois Budget
We understand why squeals would identify with sophie . she’s a complete ass trumpeting fucktard too.
He can’t put a foot right.
‘Mr Abbott used the Australian Financial Review report – titled “AAA credit rating at risk” – to repeatedly attack Labor today, urging the opposition to pass his government’s first budget through the Senate.
‘However Mr Michaels has told The Australian “there is no immediate risk to the AAA credit rating”.
“We have a stable outlook on the AAA rating, which means we think there’s a less than one-in-three chance of a change to the next couple of years,” Mr Michaels said this afternoon.’
Owens & Berkovic / Oz
People like me have a long memory..as does Twitter
Oh the bitter Hypocritical Irony :roll:…
AO I noticed you are loving the word “fucktard” its personal favorite… 🙂
l agree armchair / TB,
mr-eleventy was pwned by the qandaland audience multiple times last night, and he only gave the usual mealy mouth management type answers, he was well and truely fcuked when the dude said he was `punishing` people that werevictims of `down-turn` and `had` already been emplyoyed and re-re-re-re-skilled. #teabags #Hi-TomR
‘Treasurer Joe Hockey is suing Fairfax Media over a front-page story in its major metropolitan newspapers headlined ‘Treasurer For Sale.’
‘Lawyers acting for the federal treasurer started defamation proceedings against The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and the Canberra times and their online services in the Federal Court on Tuesday.
‘The treasurer’s determination to seek to prosecute this matter should not be underestimated,’ his spokesperson told AAP.’
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””””””’The budget documents reveal almost $3bn worth of funding agreements with state governments in the health portfolio alone that have been cut, deferred or abandoned – with the cuts starting this year or next year.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/19/hospital-cuts-begin-july-tony-abbott-admits?CMP=soc_567
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on qandaland, a medico-woman got stuck into mr-eleventy about this reb, she reckons the zombies had managed to `unite` all factions of the medical sector `against` the teabags budget, that`s how bad it is, from their perspective.
””””Business Super Profits Tax””””(TB)
#l agree with the sentiments, but,
”””’BSPT, I like it TB. If they could get Google to fork out””(TomR)
#they would have no hope in hell of getting it out of goggle-monster, a Govt trying to, would be a dead-duck within 48-hours, all google would have to do is deny service to Aust, causing people `and` biz to go completely ape-shit, no search, no adverts served, no gmail, no other google service, Govt won`t last 48-hours.
He can’t put a foot right.
You mean he has two left feet? Kneel will be livid!
fakebook-monster would be similar, 11-million daily Aust users, all suddenly locked-out coz of stupid Aust Govt, equals population going ape-shit
The treasurer’s determination to seek to prosecute this matter should not be underestimated,’ his spokesperson told AAP.’
Can I volunteer for the jury? Please, please! I have experience two rape trials!!!!
Suck on this Neil…
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmdDQJsCIAAXr4M.jpg:medium
‘Can I volunteer for the jury?’
In your dreams, the Treasurer claims Fairfax got it badly wrong so I expect it will be settled out of court.
‘Mr Hockey, in rejecting the claims at the time, described the accusations as both offensive and repugnant.’
Just like the people who went after Mirabella who is not even in Parliament.
Did they Ditch the Witch?
Dump her in a Chaff Bag?
Did her father die of shame?
Were her body parts on a Menu?
Did they even throw a sandwich at her?
Or did they just get all shouty? Meanies!
Its on parliamentary record that the Labor government referred to Abbott as “thug”, “misogynist”, “douchebag”, “Neanderthal”, “nuts”, “sexist”, “rancid”, “Australia’s biggest bulshit artist”, “mendacious”, “deceitful”, “deceptive”, “bully” , Jack the Ripper” and more.
Also they also referred to some voters as “extremists”, “rednecks”, “incontinent”, “of no consequence” and “nutjobs”.
Prime Minister Tony Abbott has cancelled a planned trip to Victoria’s Deakin University tomorrow amid reports of planned student protests there.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-20/prime-minister-cancels-geelong-uni-visit-security-concerns/5466026
When danger reared it’s ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled
Brave surtony ran away
and more.
And all very accurate. 😉
Who were painting targets though?
Hi Tom R. It’s like you never left. (Still Julia’s ever-faithful champion I see. 😉 )
It’s like you never left.
Spooky, isn’t it 😉
I see egg is still the defender of all that is stoopid.
Hi Tony 🙂
“It’s like you never left.”
Yes, it’s a pity isn’t it?
🙂
“Crows preserve”
Amen..
Onya, TomR…
Been to Adelaide Oval yet?…it looks impressive from the outside. Hope it was worth 3 rotations of our plantation forests in the South East.
Would be good to win there a bit more often.
hate the idea of a Portress…so anti-human.
🙂
Tony would like you to ask him how Richmond are travelling… 😆
‘I see egg is still the defender of all that is stoopid.’
I have strong views on the weather, but politically I’m sitting on the fence.
If they are going to increase the GST they should retain the exemption for fruit and veggies.
On the basis of what we eat today, walks an talks tomorrow. This is a story from 2013.
http://www.theland.com.au/news/agriculture/horticulture/general-news/gstexempt-fruit-and-veg-claim-denied/2674954.aspx
http://www.swellnet.com/news/surfpolitik/2014/03/31/abbot-wonderland-or-what-if-tony-really-was-surfer#comments
”…let’s all duck down the nearest rabbit hole into a world where Tony Abbott was a surfer. I have heard him described that way in this world and this may be technically correct but I suspect most of us would rather preserve the term for those with a degree of competence and perhaps even some connection to their local surfing community. I have reliable eye witness testimony to his failure to meet the first criterion and at least circumstantial evidence for the second. Therefore, encouraged by this government’s attitude to bold language, I will call him a kook.
Tony Abbott is a “kook”! Heavens, what is swellnet coming to?
Most surfers are respectful of authority, intelligent and measured in their opinions. Swellnet is risking their readership with that type of comment!
http://www.swellnet.com/news/surfpolitik/2014/03/31/abbot-wonderland-or-what-if-tony-really-was-surfer
What a gutless wonder Abbott is, always ready for a fight when in front of the camera but won’t actually face the resulting backlash of his budget in person. Even Gillard fronted up and wore the sandwiches and abuse hurled at her by all. A disappointing specimen of the manliness he tries to portray.
When you exist in cosy cubilcle, with no true exposure to the rest of the nation, you come to realize that mr-rabbit is the perfect leader, and represents what MEN!! like myself can only aspire to.
While joolya had quite a list of faults,
1-allowed unions(boo)
2-back stabber
3-joo-LIAR
4-not Liberal
5-deficit
6-too many services
7-too much infrastructure
8-the tax!!
9-woman
Hockey is offended by a lot these days – if it’s not windmills its fairfax. Heavens they’re a sensitive lot of privileged ponces!
After what was thrown at labor the last 6 yrs you would’ve thought they were a bit tougher but it seems they can only dish it out. I do hope we can afford the cost of court case I thought we needed to be cutting budget costs not going on an expensive personal frolic!
Best budget ever!!
lol ao “We are Union”
yomm will love that (BOO!)
I see tabot does his best to add to the one punch “debate”. We voted for this tool ❓ 😯
Even a friend-of-the-battler needs to be comfortable when visiting his
subjectsbeneficiarieselectors.At least he is visiting Tony, unlike like brave leader
Maybe he is afraid of sandwiches?
I heard bill shock shorten delivering the line yesterday when tabot tried to rule out changes to the GST wtte that if tabot is denying it, then that’s when we really need to worry. He has many examples to support this line, being added to daily it appears
What he actually said…
‘Today, I am committing a future Coalition government to creating one million new jobs within five years and two million new jobs over the next decade.’
It’s fascinating how the union dominated ALP just can’t tolerate rational observations about destructive union behaviour, and the poisonous effect this has on the party structure.
Ferguson devoted much of his life to the union movement, he was secretary of the miccellaneous workers union – covering people like lowly paid cleaners, non trade and production line workers. Then he was leader of the ACTU before enerting parliament. Ferguson might mumble, over explain and invent new words, but his long term commitment to the labour movement can hardly be questioned.
This action is typical of the hacks and thugs that have hijacked the ALP, and are intent on sending it into irrevennce. It’s probably almost 20 years since John Button called for an amicable divorce between unions and the ALP, and maybe it shouldn’t be so amicable.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-20/labor-wa-calls-on-alp-to-expel-martin-ferguson/5465872
I noticed the Puppet Payne grinning and burbling last night on Lateline … one thing that struck me was a constants reference to “the states run the public schools” …
… does that mean the Feds plan on funding the
catlikprivate schools … sneaky way of shifting the funding up again?++++++++++++++++++++++++++
At least he is visiting Tony,
And Clive’s constituents knew he was a billionaire before he was elected …
… they know he is going into battle for them in the senate against Adolf Abbott …
… they know he donates his parliamentary salary to charity …
… they know he understands what a fair go, looking after your mates, caring for those less well off and being an Australian means …
… and most importantly – HE HAS BROKEN NO ELECTION PROMISES …
I’d save the snide sarcasm for where it belongs … aimed squarely at the Liberal National Coalition Government …
Go Clivey!!
Abbott believes mass immigration and massive infrastructure building will see a couple of million extra jobs created.
At least he is visiting Tony,
And I bet Adolf Abbott doesn’t drive his own car around the electorate … I bet he takes one of OURS!
I wonder if the Union had a reason for kicking ferguson out yomm?
Any ideas, or just bovver boys kicking in doors (you know, like Union types are wont to do)
Abbott believes mass immigration
So, the new jobs (which apparently he doesn’t think will reach his lofty pre-election pledges, or Labors actual figures (both the same btw)) will be for immigrants, not locals?
Nice. Can’t remember that being in brochure.
Well, unions apparently don’t like the fact that he’s on the board of a mining/petrolium industry group.
Union hacks and the like just can’t cop diversity of experience, opinion and perspective in the ALP. They’d prefer a narrow, insular, singular orientation – a party that is easier to control, and one that delivers comfortable parliamentary seats to them as they wear out their welcome in their respective unions.
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I’m in Adelaide today, some of the people seem relatively normal…despite their reputation.
TEOMEIMF
#manofthepeople
“some of the people seem relatively normal”
What a boring little town it is, tho’, ToM, spent four days their when I graduated …
I spent a week there one afternoon.
Well I had to look that one up, ToSY …
TEOMEIMF stands for The Enemy of My Enemy Is My Friend. This definition appears very rarely.
Still I doubt, Adolf Abbott, has any friends AT ALL … unless their in the LIEberal Party …
LOL! @ ToSY … that about captures the “spirit”
Pie floaters are good outside the casino (if its still there)
…Ferguson might mumble, over explain and invent new words, but his long term commitment to the mining & resources degradation
labourmovement can hardly be questioned…Well, unions apparently don’t like the fact that he’s on the board of a mining/petrolium industry group.
That’s one way of putting it. Another is that he has breached ministerial ethics
The union argues Mr Ferguson breached ministerial ethics by joining the advisory board of a key gas lobby group just months after retiring from politics.
Why don’t Union thugs diversify and allow people who breach ministerial ethics to hang around ❓ 😯
“I spent a week there one afternoon.”
🙂
I spent a week there one afternoon.
I’m into my second life sentence (it seems).
The upside is that we got Holdens
Oh… wait 😦
Oh, and to answer Toilet, no, I haven’t been to the Adelaide Oval since the AFL moved back there, probably won’t for a while. But, from those who have been, nothing but praise. And, it has been a huge boost to town too apparently.
Adelaide has an Ikea.
Abbott gets a little randy…
Amusing video of young socialists using whistles to silence a speech by the Danish prime Minister …
(My mistake. It was a Danish reporter using a whistle to silence a young socialist. 😉 )
For a minute there I thought you said Idea 😯
We’re also getting an Aldi apparently. Nuthen can stop us now
These fuckwits have no shame For The Sake of the country.. Just stop this division and lying… The resounding and overwhelming reaction to the budget is its ideology not economics. Stop trying to scare people with Big Black hole, Deficit disaster, Lose AAA rating Budget emergency… JUST FUCKING STOP ALREADY… #fiberals #liberallies
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-20/the-federal-government-has-warned-interest-rates-will-rise-if-b/5465666
You know you’ve really made it when Costco rolls in to town.
Newsflash for Neil…
Consumer confidence has tumbled to its lowest level in nearly three years after the Federal Government’s budget.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-21/consumer-sentiment-slumps-after-federal-budget/5467056
Tony, the context for your vid was a reporter giving the leftards a taste of their own debating style. She made her point brilliantly.
More lefty shoutdown tactics – this time it is left on left shoutiness, bless them:
Consumer confidence has tumbled to its lowest level in nearly three years after the Federal Government’s budget.
All this without an opposition running around talking down the economy and lying about what is actually happening in the real world.
Anarchists are Leftists?
Doesn’t that sort of conflict with what an anarchist actually is ❓ 😯
Ricky, I thought they wanted interest rates higher, because low ones meant we had a budget emergency.
No wonder the monkeys confused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH1OVi2F6sU
Tony, the context for your vid was a reporter giving the leftards a taste of their own debating style. She made her point brilliantly.
it sounds like the issue was sexual abuse, pretty heavy stuff, I would like to know the context and backgound of the issue. All power to them I say!
civil disobedience and protest is a necessary part of democracy, you should be all for it, whether ‘left’ or ‘right’. It becomes even more essential as the corporate controlled state seeks to shut down any debate or protest from concerned citizens.
If that was australia, the cops would be strongarming the protesters out of there, batons crashing on heads and bodies, tasers at the ready. That’s our kind of
fascismdemocracy 😉sorry forgot to use quotation marks for sb’s comments above :blush:
Tom R: “Anarchists are Leftists?”
The Left is a broad church even if each sect believes they are the one true religion. Of course when they have a falling out things can get quite lively as when Stalin fell out with Trotsky and later when the Hitler-Stalin pact came undone.
hitler and stalin were total opposites, one was far left [stalin] and one far right [hitler], no matter how you wingnuts try to revise history to clear yourselves of your jackboot fascist history/shame it will always be owned and embraced by you.
The liberal party today, still has it’s pro hitler/nazi connections.
Protesting against protesting by not being silenced whilst shouting… pretty much a metaphor for this low ebb in Australian political discourse.
What do we want again? When do we want it? What time is it?
Loved Tony’s video… 🙂 Not sure its a left thing though. Anarchists are a breed unto themselves…This government is shouting down all detractors as Leftist and Fiscal vandals.. The Hypocrisy is staggering and the lies are transparently fervant. Splatter some of your comments, and mine for that matter, in this very blog would be construed (wrongfully so ) as leftist due to the fact that we question this faux governments, lies, dishonesty and outright incompetence. I’m of the centre left, very wary of any form of radicalism as thats where the agendas “lie”. I only add the term “left” to my position as I have a deep sense of social conscience as opposed to a bleeding or bleating heart. Most of my conservative friends and myself hold the same ideological and moral imperatives but we all agree that Abbott is a fucking dud.. they too are equally outraged, especially being taken for a ride that they are vehemently opposed to by a radical religious fucktard.
Reb yo are an incorrigible, sarcastic, troll feeding, cage rattler Love it 🙂
See I told you so.., You’ll go blind, Its my bike…Ner Ner ner Ner ner….Apparently the Adults are in charge 🙄
KL, I doubt anyone would confuse our comments 🙂
Free speech, the right to protest and civil disobedience are fine. But when these rights are exercised in such a way as to limit the freedom of other people then the protesters become the problem. There is no right to stop people you disagree with exercising their right to free speech.
You only have to look at our recent history to see fascism at work. Observe the actions taken and the changes made since the liberal party took office just a few short months ago!
Not sure its a left thing though. Anarchists are a breed unto themselves…
i’m fairly partial to self responsible anarchy myself 😉
There is no right to stop people you disagree with exercising their right to free speech.
of course there is, it’s called protest and there are also a number of laws to prevent free speech [libel laws].
“Splatter some of your comments, and mine for that matter, in this very blog would be construed (wrongfully so ) as leftist”
The problem isn’t the individual comments. It is that people feel the need to identify as leftist or with some party or ideology. That is the point at which the slide into groupthink starts. If your position on every issue can be predicted from whatever “side” you are on then you need to start thinking for yourself. Most people here do not fall into that category.
besides, where is the ‘stopping’ or preventing/ refusal of free speech? it is only a disruption!
of course there is, it’s called protest
If some lefty reserves the right to shut me up, I reserve the right to punch the shit out of them.
and there are also a number of laws to prevent free speech [libel laws].
Sadly there are many such laws – and there would be even more if Underpants Conroy and the Arseclown Bob Brown had got their way. The left loves shutting people up. They have never been big on logical argument.
So far to day we have has Tony Abbott called Adolf Abbott, and the Liberal party likened to fascists. As Godwin-ite name-calling, it’s text-book stuff. As factual argument, it’s crap.
If your position on every issue can be predicted from whatever “side” you are on then you need to start thinking for yourself.
OMG 😯
Ae you listening to yourself? You have done nothing but scream ‘lefty’ and ‘communist’ at anyone who opposes your opinion throughout this blog 😉
We’ve all tried [well me, Tb and ricky as far as i know] to tell you that there is no convenient pigeon hole to put people in. No-one but the old culture warriors and the deliberately inflammatory [bolt & co] even think like that anymore.
“it is only a disruption!”
It happens in myriad ways. Shutting people up is the ultimate admission that you don’t have any logical arguments.
Ayan Hirsi Ali was invited to give a commencement address at Brandeis Uni. She is a hero of our time,s having grown up and suffered under a vile mysoginist religion, she now spoke out about it. Naturally the left, rather than let her speak, came down on the side of the genital mutilators and had her disinvited. Just another sad chapter in the culture wars, I guess.
If your position on every issue can be predicted from whatever “side” you are on
Was there a reason then that Anarchists were immediately assumed to be Lefties?
If some lefty reserves the right to shut me up, I reserve the right to punch the shit out of them.
Advocating violence too?
You’ve done a complete about face, some would say a HIPPO like CRITICAL, about face compared to previous
abusecomments!“Reb yo are an incorrigible, sarcastic, troll feeding, cage rattler”
Thank you. 🙂
If some lefty reserves the right to shut me up, I reserve the right to punch the shit out of them.
Is Splatterbottom tabot? Oh no, that’s right, tabot is too scared to get near the shouties. Funny, his mentor addressed the gun lobby, but tabot is too scaredy to face up to uni students. What a gutless bully he’s turned out to be (oh, that’s right, some people have been saying for a long time he’s a gutless bully)
just for something different.
shades of alex downer’s daughter getting a controversial cushy job through father’s influence. And they wonder why people protest their nepotism and corruption.
You’ll go blind
Again! ❓ 😯
NTTAWTT
“Are you listening to yourself?”
Have you seen my comments earlier in this thread? I don’t have a “side”. I try to take things issue by issue. Most people here do in their own way. Maybe not Tom R, but most people.
Communism and socialism are still relevent. Socialist Alliance has been prominent lately in trying to shut people up, in case you didn’t notice. Millions of people are still oppressed by communist regimes. And prominent politicians have a communist past – they are no better than old Nazis and should be held in complete contempt.
“Advocating violence too?”
No, just self defence.
No, just self defence.
Wow, that escalated quickly 😯
Tony is a highly regarded
economistfuckwitand it would appear that the scholarship could be a ‘one only’
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/21/tony-abbotts-daughter-did-not-have-to-pay-for-60000-design-degree
…Frances definitely was a student with us and received a chairman’s scholarship,” Leanne Whitehouse, director of the Institute told Guardian Australia. She declined to detail how many times the “chairman’s scholarship” has been awarded previously, but the institute’s website makes no references to the scholarship and states the institute “does not currently offer scholarships to gain a place into the Bachelor of Design”…
This budget reminds me of shopping at harvey norman. You just know you are being fleeced.
I see Kamahl’s out and about accepting cash for endorsements…
Pretty much…. I’m issue based.. is the only sane position to take.
Left V Right… Well a cigarette paper from fascist nazi ‘s oppressive dictators seems to be “left ” for this bunch of Poncing Political Pygmies with their antagonistic Polemic of puerile posturing to robber barons and the gullibly imbecilic 🙄
Divide and Conquer? Works for imbecilic parrot simpletons like Squeals
I myself maintain a healthy partisan contempt for most politicians.. it just saves time.
Its good to see people actually cattle prodded from the apathy of lazy indifference to take action, as these fuckwits were counting on apathy and contempt to carry out their evil plan..
The voters and history will not be kind to these fuckwits, Australia got what it deserved, they left the window open and in drifted the fascist ideology like an idiot wind.
Big tough Tony lost his plumbs today….Are there any Clock Towers or Book repositories near Deakin incidentally?..just sayin 🙂
Are there any Clock Towers or Book repositories near Deakin
He doesn’t need something that extreme for the bottom to splatter Ricky, anyone armed with a microphone who looks remotely like asking a question is enough to make him Run To The Hills 😉
“I’d study at UBSS if I were a student.” ~ Kamahl
Good to know. Many is the time I’ve asked myself: ‘What would Kamahl do?
“Are there any Clock Towers or Book repositories near Deakin”
They have a wisdom suppository.
“I’d study at UBSS if I were a student”
So sincere 🙄 Be like Clive.. park the Roller in the student carpark…
“I’d study at UBSS if I were a student but i’m too busy crooning Fiberal fundraisers for people who are so unkind” 🙄
They have a wisdom suppository.
Not today, apparently he splattered
The liberal party today, still has it’s pro hitler/nazi connections.
As does the Vatican …
As factual argument, it’s crap.
Prove it …
Communism and socialism are still relevent.
Then you must agree that fascism exists too …
♫Ya can’t have one without the oth-e-e-r♫ ♫
Speaking of “control” …
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/joe-hockey-tells-photographers-to-stop-taking-photos-at-acoss-lunch/story-fni6ulvf-1226925855930
Its the Clip that just keeps Giving
(I can’t really see any punchline in Abbott’s graduating from Battlelines to My Germane Re-Federation upon attaining Super-Supreme Chairthingship, either; even if it were handpainted in cartoonish watercolour on a purifying White Paper.)
“Even a friend-of-the-battler needs to be comfortable when visiting his subjects beneficiaries electors.”
Well done, Ser.
Joining the attack on Palmer, who is pressing the attack on the conservatives- stealing their base.
Magfuckingnificent.
I’d never accuse someone of taking their cue from a House of Rightwing Dissemination…but Herr Bolt is on just exactly the same Crusade .
Yay for grassroots defilade!!!
“Joining the attack on Palmer, who is pressing the attack on the conservatives- stealing their base.”
Not fighting for the conservative cause, just pointing out the hypocrisy of those who would otherwise (and probably have in the past) classified Palmer as a ‘Robber Baron’. Now it’s ‘Go Clive!’
It was never a matter of principle after all, as this one counter-example proves.
‘So far to day we have has Tony Abbott called Adolf Abbott, and the Liberal party likened to fascists.’
Not to mention Nazis.
Clive is a loose cannon with deep pockets and scores to settle, a very scary prospect for the Fiberals and Labor. The world needs more Clive Palmers..I just don’t approve how he got there. Predominantly a real estate salesman from Joes White shoe brigade..
He knows lots of dirty secrets does Clivey…. I’m sure he believes some of what he is doing is correct but its fuckin scary when someone can get 6% odd and climbing of the vote with little more than money. Shows you how fucked the Greens are… there is a void left by the Democrats for a third wheel that Clive is filling. The Greens have not capitalised this gift opportunity due to political obstinance, radicalism, policy stupidity, disorganisation and naivety (voting with the Tory’s against the ETS.. fuck me)
Clive is a self serving, unpredictable fucker.. but like Malcolm in the Middle and Rudd, he is just doing it .. so I’m torn with Clive.. he’s a conundrum wrapped in a riddle… One thing 4 sure, he’s the gift that keeps giving.
“Clive is a self serving, unpredictable fucker.. but like Malcolm in the Middle and Rudd, he is just doing it .. so I’m torn with Clive.. he’s a conundrum wrapped in a riddle… One thing 4 sure, he’s the gift that keeps giving.”
For Clive, this is just another business venture. Talk about the one-percenters taking over.
TEOMEIMF
Possibly aimed at me for a previous comment, TB…
“Clive is a
loose cannon with deep pockets and scores to settle, a very scary prospect forthe Fiberals and Labor.”Gauge responses accordingly.
I’m not a Clive fan. He is a populist Gina. Thank fuck he isn’t peddling too much of his snake oil in SA…yet. But, I do like to see the duopoly squirm. It’s when we find out what the entrenched really think about ‘democracy…
First of last should have read…”“Clive is a
loose cannon with deep pockets and scores to settle, a very scary prospect fora threat to the Fiberals and Labor.”“Its good to see people actually cattle prodded from the apathy of lazy indifference to take action, as these fuckwits were counting on apathy and contempt to carry out their evil plan..”
Agreed…Bolt calls such people ‘barbarians’.
He would have been Octavian’s greatest arselicker.
* Just remember, only leftists and muslims are violent. Anything else can be reverse rationalised…
So far to day we have has Tony Abbott called Adolf Abbott,
Nasty Anarchists
Bolt calls such people ‘barbarians’
And when they are sponsored by shock jocks, they are “grass roots campaign”
I wonder how many uni students were stopped at the border?
just pointing out the hypocrisy of those who would otherwise (and probably have in the past) classified Palmer as a ‘Robber Baron’. Now it’s ‘Go Clive!’
Its all in ACTIONs and BEHAVIOUR, ToSY, including yours … do you think I’m that fkn dumb! You arrogant prick – “the hypocrisy of those who” … don’t insult my intelligence …
As for “(and probably have in the past)” PROVE IT … no better than a troll …
Address your insults to me … not as some fkn third party … typical arrogant – I know better than you attitude …
Clive Palmer may be a Robber Baron … but he’s fast becoming a Baron by his ACTIONS … protecting the fkn serfs that you disdain …
Not to mention Nazis. Prove it!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
For Clive, this is just another business venture. Talk about the one-percenters taking over.
Might be better than the 101 Percenters …
But, I do like to see the duopoly squirm
Aaaah … TEOMEIMF … in the case of Clivey … absolutely!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
He would have been Octavian’s greatest arselicker.
Ha ha – you read the book …
And everyone believes Ceasar was the saviour!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Anything else can be reverse rationalised…
Just a slight edit, mate … “Anything else is reverse rationalised”…by the tories … whose absence (sb exempted) is so–o-o-o-o obvious in these trying times …
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Here’s more ARSEHOLE LIBERALS AT WORK >>> The real Robber Barons at work …
http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/qld-solar-tariffs-under-threat/story-fnii5v6w-1226925963793
Might be better than the 101 Percenters …
ME!
“Prove it!”
No, it’s you who’s calling Tony Abbott ‘Adolf’, and you who’s calling the Liberals Nazis, all without explaining what they have done that even comes close to what those evil bastards did. So, yes, it’s up to you to “prove” your assertions..
It was never a matter of principle after all, as this one counter-example proves.
Who said it was? I’m quite honest about that. As long as he’s shaking things up, creating a problem for the liblab, it’s all good imo!
“You arrogant prick … no better than a troll … typical arrogant – I know better than you attitude … protecting the fkn serfs that you disdain”
Feel better now?
For Clive, this is just another business venture. Talk about the one-percenters taking over.
You don’t think the political parties and politicians aren’t part of the 1%? Hasn’t ICAC and the obeid thing shown it to be one big [taxpayer funded] pot of gold for them all?
You’re so touchingly naive sometimes sb! 😉
Nazis, all without explaining what they have done that even comes close to what those evil bastards did. So, yes, it’s up to you to “prove” your assertions..
*cough* manus island, all they need is a gas chamber, they do have the orange hermetically sealed floating bubbles of plastic full of wretched humanity…and oh, the lies, and lies and more lies.
“Ha ha – you read the book ”
Indeed, I did…
I read many of the books recommended here.
“You don’t think the political parties and politicians aren’t part of the 1%? Hasn’t ICAC and the obeid thing shown it to be one big [taxpayer funded] pot of gold for them all?”
I’m pretty sure that splatter shows a good understanding of ‘what’s really going on’ in the halls of power. To his credit, he gives daily updates which have been often (perhaps wilfully) overlooked by contemporary mainstream sources (unless they verge on the Newsbyte Sensationalist).
goodness, he’s made the huffpost again
Tony Abbott, ‘Creepy’ Australian PM, Caught On Camera Winking As Sex-Line Grandma Talks:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/21/tony-abbott-australian-prime-minister-wink-sex-line_n_5363084.html?1400662403
I read many of the books recommended here.
In case you haven’t 😉
This budget brought it back to me, in the hopes of not being overly melodramatic. Great movie too. In the most depressing way.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6288.The_Road
‘Creepy’
Oooh. Tony will have them. Nasty Anarchists.
I enjoyed the movie, TomR.
I didn’t know about the book…but I have a young adult offspring who devours books like that. I’ll be ordering it directly; it’s likely we’ll both read it.
Cheers.
* she read the entire Song of Ice & Fire back catalogue a couple of years ago. Reads well above her age.
** anyone know about The Last of Us? As far as the medium goes, certainly the most well crafted, emotive & mature story I’ve ‘played’.
“*cough* manus island, all they need is a gas chamber”
Oh, is that all, just a gas chamber? Just that one minor difference, then?
It’s hard to resist Godwin…but it’s probably best to resist
“Just that one minor difference, “
Good point ToSY… They haven’t quite resorted to killing a
sylum seekerstransferees (or have they?).Given that it’s just a tiny Island with a minimal population, has Morrison found who was responsible for the murder of that
asylum seekertransferee….?I didn’t know about the book…
The writing style is…unconventional, to say the least, but.. it works. My English teacher would have failed him miserably. Maybe there is still hope for me then lol
anyone know about The Last of Us?
My eldest got right into it, for a time, and my youngest really wanted to (bloody parents)
I watched about a half hour youtube of the game play (I’m not big on games), but it was quite immersive. But, I love apocalyptic stories. aka Walking Dead, Falling Skies etc.
Personally, I was never a fan of the Fire and Ice books, they were too disjointed for me to follow :(. Love the series though, they have fixed the timeline up for the Slowe of Us imo
Here’s a book that should be read by all of those who cheaply describe things as ‘communist’…
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/282108.Stalin
Mayhaps they’d come away understanding the difference between a many faceted, not always concurrent, ideology & the cult of an egomaniacal dictator.
They haven’t quite resorted to killing
What would a court call it if you forced a boat back onto a jungle island and leave the occupants to fend for them selves and who then subsequently died whilst attempting to cross a river seeking civilization?
I’m sure there is a word.
I’m pretty sure that splatter shows a good understanding of ‘what’s really going on’ in the halls of power. To his credit, he gives daily updates which have been often (perhaps wilfully) overlooked by contemporary mainstream sources (unless they verge on the Newsbyte Sensationalist)…
Did I forget the 😉 ?
Whether Stalin was a monster is irrelevant to whether Marxism is a failed ideology.
@Tony Oh look …. a furry thing…
A squirrel?
😆
“You’re so touchingly naive sometimes sb! “
I’ve been fairly critical of both sides, especially as their misdeeds are publicised by inquiries. There is no joy in that.
As to Clive I agree with this: “I’m quite honest about that. As long as he’s shaking things up, creating a problem for the liblab, it’s all good imo!”. In the short term at least.
“The writing style is…unconventional, to say the least, but.. it works. My English teacher would have failed him miserably.”
Probably would have failed Russell Hoban too then…but Riddley Walker is tremendous. There’s something to be said for ‘unconventional’ imo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_Walker
I think the detail & massive scope to be found in Ice & Fire is some of the most enrapturing material I’ve read. I tend to thoroughly enjoy any fiction (which I’ve only got back into in the last several years) that is immersive, bleak & somewhat steeped in gritty nastiness (surprise, surprise).
I don’t know too many other 12-14yo’s who would wade through it;
little lonelet alone reread twice.The series (HBO) does about as much justice to the core material as could possibly be done in the format; I hate when it wildly deviates though.
I remember Tim Dunlop discussing the His Dark Materials trilogy, primarily because the first movie got Hollywoodised up the arse & made ‘safe’.
I didn’t get it at the time, but was referred to it many years later by my youngster. The books are great. I can certainly see why it was stomped on & precluded from becoming a trilogy…far too much nutrition for an enquiring mind, perhaps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials#Controversies
”””””””’
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/billionaire-clive-palmer-cruises-marsden-electorate-logan-city-in-rolls-royce-during-bill-shorten-visit/story-fnihsrf2-1226924583702
Even a friend-of-the-battler needs to be comfortable when visiting his,
+subjects,
+beneficiaries,
+electors””””””””””””’
wrong on all counts Tinfoil`osy, seems clive went to visit with a cancer patient, but don`t let that stop your enjoyment of Limited-News clap-trap.
#Go Clive 🙂
“seems clive went to visit with a cancer patient”
Seems?
Seems politicians kiss babies, too. Doesn’t make their motives pure.
“Whether Stalin was a monster is irrelevant to whether Marxism is a failed ideology.”
The point (the one you may have missed) being that it is a multifaceted ideology not simply comprised of bog standard socialists/Marxists/communists.
Stalin loved wiping out millions of what you (may or may not) see as ‘communists’; ie his own ‘brand’…except their is a multitude of deviation within the brand.
It’s all too easy to think in broad categories.
If nothing else, the book is a well resourced (& meticulously referenced) story of earnest historical perspective.
I don’t know too many other 12-14yo’s who would wade through it; little lone let alone reread twice.
hahaha, very funny, a blast from the past!
Mao starved millions of his own people, through starvation, forced labour, and executions.
Marxism/Communism was a failed ideology, whenever and wherever it was tried, regardless of who was at the helm.
””””’
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/21/tony-abbotts-daughter-did-not-have-to-pay-for-60000-design-degree
Leanne Whitehouse did not respond to questions about whether Frances Abbott was offered the scholarship(#$60,000) in accordance with the school’s policy, or how many scholarships were awarded each year.”””””””””
more teabag graft, secret-commissions etc,
mr-rabbits daughter `seems` to have received the `only` so-called scholarship EVER supplied by Leanne Whitehouse,
John`W`s son got a cushy job in texas with big-oil, after we goose-stepped into iraq/afghan with teh-usa
#corruption teabag style
Seems politicians kiss babies, too. Doesn’t make their motives pure.
“I know clive is very rich, but just because a person is rich doesn’t necessarily mean that he is pure of heart in all things.”
I paraphrase from another time and place.
“Marxism/Communism was a failed ideology, whenever and wherever it was tried, regardless of who was at the helm.”
Of course…Trotsky, Lenin, Mao…the whole lot…were of a hive mind…gmafb.
I’m no defender of Marxism. Some aspects of socialism carry merit. Universal merit, universal resonance which has fuck all to do with Karl Marx. I’ve never read anything written by the man personally.
Y’all just use the ‘socialist’ catchphrase as a misleading, shotgun smear.
Clive=Our Threat
Gina=Our benefactor
Bolt=Our way of making ourselves comfortable with the dissonant cognition…
“Y’all just use the ‘socialist’ catchphrase as a misleading, shotgun smear.”
Yeah, only in this conversation I’ve only mentioned Marxism and Communism. 😯
Look,
another squirrrella possum.on #Clive ,Sorry Tinfoil`osy, disagree,
Clive was sick to death of being ignored by the teabags, so left them, and went his own way, just as other before him have, there was no reason for Clive to stay with the teabags as a useless and powerless second fiddle, that`s the Nat`s job
“Of course…Trotsky, Lenin, Mao…the whole lot…were of a hive mind…gmafb.”
All Marxists, as it happens.
“Clive was sick to death of being ignored by the teabags, so left them”
Riiiight.
Y’all just use the ‘socialist’ catchphrase as a misleading, shotgun smear.
yes, they do toilet, fully agree, not that the winger’s smears have much credibility though, it comes across as hilarious, out of touch, mccarthyism.
I’m not at all fond of Clive. I’d prefer to see ALP, Liberals, Xenephon, Wilkie, Oakeshott, Windsor, Nationals all winning seats in front of him.
He buys seats for footballing dills like Glen Lazarus, tries to promote the footballing dill Doug Hawkins into parliament. I think Palmer is half, if not fully, crazed.
“Y’all just use the ‘socialist’ catchphrase as a misleading, shotgun smear.”
Not sure why a not-a-leftist would care, anyway.
*Mao
starvedkilled millions of his own peopleme, I’m with banksy, I think aussies should start showing some anarchy, start to give a f*ck about something other than themselves. Loving the student protests, gives me hope that all is not lost. And the old folks are hopping mad, they will ruin abbott.
bush, howard and blair, killed millions of other innocent people, is it worse if it’s your own?
CLive needs his minions and he likes a robotic army of preferably blunt tools….. Check this out somebody… 🙄 can’t think who… changed Jacquie Lambi’s Wiki ..it took days for them to find it… 🙂
“bush, howard and blair, killed millions of other innocent people, is it worse if it’s your own?”
If you’re referring to the war in Iraq, they “killed” 137,607 innocent people, at the most.
And, yes, it is far worse if a government kills its own people. A government’s first responsibility is to its country and its people. (This is not to say that all lives aren’t equally important, of course they are.)
AO dont mention the war
up to a little mischief i see ricky, your bucket album is a bit like web graffiti, noice!
AO dont mention the war
can’t help it ricky, lest I forget.
And, yes, it is far worse if a government kills its own people.
That sounds like an argument from a moralising moraliser to me. A convenient cognitive dissonance when it comes to the crimes of their own [supposed goodies] vs crimes of ‘the others’ [baddies]. I’m sure that the ‘collateral damage’ can’t tell much difference between the two [eek, baddies & baddies].
I’m quite sure that if push comes to shove and there were a civil uprising in this country, the government would not hesitate to kill and maim their own. The use of all state forces would be deployed. just look at what the corporate, military state does to dissenters, whistleblowers etc now plus the ever widening scope of treasonous or declared terrorist, illegal activities.
How was the iraq war a responsibility of the people of australia?
This is not to say that all lives aren’t equally important, of course they are…
They can’t be equal if one is expendable. Obviously you take the view that your countrymen’s lives [not sure about apostrophe placement] are worth more than those of another country, even when there is no direct threat to your own country or it’s people.
CLive needs his minions and he likes a robotic army of preferably blunt tools…..
blunt tools r us!
back on topic 😛
”””””””If you’re referring to the war in Iraq, they “killed” 137,607 innocent people, at the most.””””’
Sorry Tinfiol`osy, thats largely bullshit,
teh-bush admin refused to `count` civilian casualties,
you can also bet that there is all kinds of ways to `classify` in all kinds of different ways the
`deaths caused by teh-usa wars` eg,refugees killed/dying in transit
just as they don`t count their own soldiers who suicided after vietnam, iraq/afghan, you can double the `official` numbers #teabags
#”in transit”’ as in verses ””on battle-field””
Can’t quite put my finger on why…but this bit made me think of
sit, roll over, go-right-back, speakKneel…“It’s also not what we say but often how we say it that gives our four-legged friends a clue as to what we mean. For example, if you start reading the back of a cereal box to your dog in a deep cranky voice, chances are it will feel intimidated and back off. While if you read the exact same box in a cheery voice, it will jump all over you in excitement.”
http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/your-dog-can-understand-up-to-160-words/story-fnjwkt0b-1226923853327
http://www.news.com.au/national/joe-hockey-tells-photographers-to-stop-taking-photos-at-acoss-lunch/story-fncynjr2-1226925855930
”””We’re also getting an Aldi apparently.”””’
l predict your aldi`s will open in holden-hill and/or elizabeth, places where `work-force` has taken a hit, job-loss etc
pmsl
””””””””More concerning to survey respondents, however, is what will happen to their household budgets once the Commonwealth’s planned tax increases and spending cuts take effect.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-21/consumer-sentiment-slumps-after-federal-budget/5467056
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yeah reb, add in the 80,000 slated job-loss, mr-rabbit choppin` public servants, we will soon have margie osmond doin the rounds on teh-media, screechin`on behalf of the retail-monsters, this is just the beginning.
Can’t quite put my finger on why…but this bit made me think of sit, roll over, go-right-back, speak Kneel…
this makes me think of neil
ideology vs good economic management
http://petermartin2001.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/when-joe-says-he-wants-a-surplus-he-means-for-government-but-a-deficit-for-everyone-else/
woof woof
””””hitler and stalin were total opposites, one was far left [stalin] and one far right [hitler],””””TRUE
.
”””””’no matter how you wingnuts try to revise history to clear yourselves of your jackboot fascist history/shame it will always be owned and embraced by you.
The liberal party today, still has it’s pro hitler/nazi connections.”””””””
both hitler and stalin relied on being able to herd devout wingnuts and useful imbeciles to their `cause`, mr-rabbit has modeled his leadership style along similar lines,
#our teabags know this, and when we remind them of this they get
tetleytetchyLeaked Documents Cast Doubt On Abbott’s $60k Scholarship Claims:
https://newmatilda.com/2014/05/21/documents-cast-doubt-abbotts-60k-scholarship-claims
…Assurances by the Prime Minister that a $60,000 scholarship awarded to his daughter Frances on the basis of merit have been contradicted by testimony and documents obtained by New Matilda.
And in breaking developments, the Australian Parliament’s Registrar of Members’ Interests has tonight also contradicted the Prime Minister over an explanation he provided earlier today about why he did not publicly disclose his daughter received the scholarship…
””””””””’I’m not at all fond of Clive. I’d prefer to see ALP, Liberals, Xenephon, Wilkie, #Oakeshott, #Windsor, Nationals all winning seats in front of him.””””””
welcome to life outside the cubicle,
oakshott/windsor, thats strange, you where always spiteful toward them in your comments when they were in parliament,
life has a way of biting you on the arse, be careful of what you wish for,
your wish may actually be granted
”””maintain a healthy partisan contempt for most politicians”””
”””it just saves time.”””
#Ditto. lt really is the only sane fixed position to take.
”””””’good to see people actually cattle prodded from the apathy of lazy indifference to take action””””’
#yeah agree, but would also point out, a lot of people are `time-poor` these days too, not necessarily `indifferent` or `lazy`, and remember teabag-media is no help to them in unpacking the Lobbyist bullshit
”””””””””’Communism was a failed ideology, whenever and wherever it was tried, regardless of who was at the helm.””””””””’
Tinfoil`osy, Let`s pretend there is no such place as China.
”””””””””’the source told NM.
https://newmatilda.com/2014/05/21/documents-cast-doubt-abbotts-60k-scholarship-claims
“Leanne-whitehouse got the Chairman of the Board [Taylor] to tell [Frances-abbott] she had the offer of a scholarship.”
A few years later, in the run-up to the 2013 federal election, Ms Whitehouse became increasingly excited at the prospect of a Liberal win, the staffer said.
“She said to me something like, ‘Do you know what this could mean to Whitehouse if [Abbott] gets in?””””””””””””
looks like whitehouse was expecting `kickback` to me,
l wonder if mr-rabbit has cut any deals with whitehouse.
Who is advocating for communism?
Why do we keep debating communism as if it’s relevant to people here?
An opposing viewpoint to a rightwinger, does not a communist make.
looks like whitehouse was expecting `kickback` to me,
l wonder if mr-rabbit has cut any deals with whitehouse.
Yes, some nice taxpayer funding for the private institution, you don’t give away $60,000 for nothing. Perhaps some basking in reflected glory of having the daughter of a PM to show off about.
‘So, the new jobs (which apparently he doesn’t think will reach his lofty pre-election pledges, or Labors actual figures (both the same btw)) will be for immigrants, not locals?
‘Nice. Can’t remember that being in brochure’.
No, its essentially a pipe dream which cannot be talked about for obvious reasons. The bullet train network will be built by a coolie workforce (Chinese State run business) and presumably Australians will build the new cities on award wages.
This is only speculation.
This is only speculation.
What part of your blogging isn’t?
Oh, the outright lying parts 😯
‘I spent a week there one afternoon.’
Priceless.
Its the sort of place you go for a holiday because you want to make it seem longer.
‘What part of your blogging isn’t?’
None, I’m only interested in the nooze before it ‘appens.
Hate Media Against Rorts
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/nsw-disability-support-pensioners-now-outnumber-australias-total-war-wounded-by-more-than-44000/story-fni0xqrc-1226926318057
Yes, some nice taxpayer funding for the private institution, you don’t give away $60,000 for nothing.
To me, the libs complete inability to be across their budget makes it look more and more like they weren’t the actual architects of it. We have had several years of the big end of town, in miners, big oil and ltd news (to name a few) running a concerted campaign against the former Government both out in the open and also under the cover of the libs. There was going to be a reckoning, a paying back of debts, and this is it.
I don’t rate the libs as stupid, in fact, they are fiendishly clever, and definitely not stupid enough to pull something like this, without being pushed from elsewhere to so. The vested interests know this is their one big shot, and, should the libs not get back in, not really their problem. The fallout is for the libs to work out, the interests want their pay day, and they all want it now.
It really is the only feasible reason this budget would be so weighted to the big end of town, and at the same time, so misunderstood by it’s facilitators.
Either that, or the entire party has gone stark raving mad.
‘Tinfoil`osy, Let`s pretend there is no such place as China.’
The next Five Year Plan should give us a clearer picture on how they intend taking over the world.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-04/17/c_133271183.htm
Although, going on the ltdnews papers today, murdoch appears to be running a rear guard action of sorts.
With so many against the Budget it’s a rear guard action, but I’m confident hate media will come up trumps.
China is ‘communist’?
Does anyone seriously think they are still following that path, or progressively moving towards a market economy?
I’m confident hate media will come up trumps.
I get the feeling you are hoping they do.
China have always taken ideologies from elsewhere and modified them to suit their needs. They practice what looks like a very loose form of “communism”, but that might be because we are more used to the more rigid form adopted by the former USSR.
Everything in China is a blend, and their communism is no different, with a lot of free market capitalism driving it.
China is a world of greys, that can create a vast array of colours and textures.
But to them, I get the feeling it is all black and white ❓
‘Tinfoil`osy, Let`s pretend there is no such place as China.’
China today, despite its rapid industrialisation, is far from the Communist Utopia you seem to think. Here are just a few links for your edification. .
Censorship
Pollution
Forced relocation
Forced abortions
Organ harvesting
Malteratment of mental patients
Political prisoners
Land confiscation
Human Rights in general
Need I go on?
(Reb, can you please retrieve a comment from the spaminator. It’s probably in there because of the number of links.)
Freed! 🙂
‘Does anyone seriously think they are still following that path, or progressively moving towards a market economy?’
They are progressively moving towards a market economy, but 97% of their internal infrastructure was built by the state run organisations. Check out their rail building exercise in Africa.
“Sorry Tinfiol`osy, thats largely bullshit,”
Those figures for the number of violent civilian deaths come from Iraq Body Count. Care to point out where their methods are wrong?
“China is ‘communist’?”
It used to be. Back in the day when its collectivist policies murdered over 30 million people.
Fortunately, Deng Xiaoping had the sense to look around and observe that market economies produce benefits that socialism never has and never will.
China is moving to a market economy while still maintaining vestiges of the totalitarian trappings of communism.
The reason 300 million Chinese have been lifted out of dire poverty is the operation of the market. There is less equality in China now but the people are better off. This causes leftist heads to explode although I doubt they are capable of learning anything from it. There are none so stupid as those besotted by their own moral virtue.
Cuba is still communist, being ruled by the Castro family for the last half century according to communist principles. Despite the wet dreams of western wankers it is miserable place to live for all but the ruling elite.
Communism is still relevant as a paradigm case. It is the purest form of leftism. It remains relevant because communist dead-enders like Lee Rhiannon and entryist Trots like Adam Bandt still wield political power in parliament. On the sidelines, most of the violent protests are confected by communist groups like Socialist Alternative.
Obviously those with an interest in pushing a leftist agenda have a vested interest in everybody forgetting about communism. They are shit scared people might learn something from the lessons of history.
And before you bang on about deaths of combatants, my answer was in response to AO’s claim that “bush, howard and blair, killed millions of other innocent people”.
May 21, 2014 10:24 pm
back on topic KL!
Incompetent? Stupid? Liars? Deceitful? Amateurs? Or just Private School Bullies full of vengeful ideology and ignorance of a world they have never lived in?
Or just a combination of – all of the above?
http://www.news.com.au/national/who-pays-the-7-gp-fee-the-prime-minister-and-the-treasurer-dont-understand-their-own-policy/story-fncynjr2-1226926025926
Whatever, they need to go … either at the Liberal Party’s own hands or by Double Dissolution …
Bring the Ballot Boxes Back !
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Feel better now?
Oh! Yeah! Absofknlutely!
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Marxism/Communism was a failed ideology, whenever and wherever it was tried, regardless of who was at the helm.
As was fascism and the divine right of kings … and if you look closely at “democracy” it too is being nibbled away by the same (well similar) Robber Barons as they plunder the capitalist system with greed and corruption …
Don’t blame the systems blame the arseholes who float to the top!
Not sure why a not-a-leftist would care, anyway.
Because the statement is not balanced and distorts the truth … common among those who defend the current Australian tory government program of using an imbalance of democratic power for suppression and control of the weak, poor, young, sick, old and frail … what a great system that is!
‘I get the feeling you are hoping they do.’
No, they are just presenting a different slant which is highly commendable.
“Obviously you take the view that your countrymen’s lives [not sure about apostrophe placement] are worth more than those of another country” ~ AO
How is it “obvious”, in light of the fact I’d just said: ‘This is not to say that all lives aren’t equally important, of course they are’?
‘Need I go on?’
** chuckle **
“As was fascism and the divine right of kings … and if you look closely at “democracy” it too is being nibbled away by the same (well similar) Robber Barons as they plunder the capitalist system with greed and corruption …
Don’t blame the systems blame the arseholes who float to the top!
“
Absolutely right. I would only add that democracy is also being undermined from the left. sometimes by frontal assault such as the attempt to cnesor the press, sometimes indirectly such as by Unionland nepotism.
My main gripe is not so much with programs to help people in dire need so much as the inability of the left (that doesn’t include you TB) to put any real proposal to generate the wealth necessary to fund the spending. The limit to government spending is the ability of the private sector to produce profits which can be taxed. Proponents of expanding government spending should be ignored unless they also come with proposals to increase business profits for that is where every cent the government spends ultimately comes from.
No, they are just presenting a different slant
Or, in the common vernacular, BULLSHITTING
No wonder you approve.
More than 100,000 young people a year will be forced to survive without unemployment payments for at least six months under the Abbott government’s controversial welfare changes.
A breakdown of the Abbott government’s own budget figures, provided to Fairfax Media, reveals it expects nearly 110,000 young people a year to be without work for six months and to be then moved on to a new work for the dole program.
Under the new rules, unemployed people under 30 will have to wait six months before receiving benefits. They would then undertake six months of work for the dole and be paid to do so. If they fail to find work or study during that period they would then face another six months without payments.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/more-than-100000-young-unemployed-to-go-without-benefits-20140521-38ovo.html#ixzz32OoqMd1F
The libs have just halved the payments for the long term unemployed
Watch the crime rate soar.
This also when their own predictions foresee a rise in unemployment. In other words, they are knowingly allowing current workers to be forced into unemployment lines, without any pay at all.
How is it “obvious”, in light of the fact I’d just said: ‘This is not to say that all lives aren’t equally important, of course they are’?
How can it be that all lives are equally important, if one is held in higher value?
in the same breath, you say:
And, yes, it is far worse if a government kills its own people.
It is not a logical stance imo, you are basically saying that all lives are of equal value, but some are more equal than others.
“…All the habits of Man are evil. And, above all, no animal must ever tyrannise over his own kind. Weak or strong, clever or simple, we are all brothers. No animal must ever kill any other animal. All animals are equal…”
later, as the animals become humanised:
“…All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others…”, [animal farm] .
I guess that fits with your entire worldview/ideology and where you and I would part company.
The poorest 20 per cent of Australian families will pay $1.1 billion more into government coffers than the richest households as a result of the budget, highlighting the huge inequity in the government’s four-year blueprint for fiscal repair.
New analysis from the National Centre for Social and Economic Modelling (NATSEM) has crystallised how heavily the burden of budget consolidation has fallen on those less well-off, especially if they have school-age children.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/poorest-families-pay-most-in-budget-20140521-38p5m.html#ixzz32OrxEcx9
CLASS WARFARE!! Where have I heard that before?
TR, It really is the only feasible reason this budget would be so weighted to the big end of town, and at the same time, so misunderstood by it’s facilitators.
Discussing exactly the same theory (ies) with The Minister last night …
The contradictions are just astounding particularly, in education (every level), in health and in pension changes …
As for the top end – the tax for over $180k is limited and minimal (loophole already found) … business gets a 1.5% gain … and the pollies wage freeze had already been mooted by the tribunal …
No changes to negative gearing or family trusts … no increase in income tax but a swelling of “a need for increase” in the GST – the latter will impact on those with little or no disposable income … along with the increase in fuel excise that will also increase the costs of goods … no doubt a sloppy way of taking advantage of the courier boom in internet deliveries …
Absolute hit and/or miss approach to stuffing up an economy … consumer confidence is way down (The Business last night) …
Self fulfilling prophecy … much?
‘Or, in the common vernacular, BULLSHITTING’
News is still news even with a slant, check out the Guardian and you’ll see what I mean.
Slanting is permissible, in the same way that omitting stories is also legitimate. Editor’s choice.
Abbott is melting…. ICAC loves the fiberals
But wasn’t the ICAC supposed to net, Gillard? Or was that one of the RC?
As for Queensland … and corruption – seems Sir Noddy really is a fan of Joe Bjelke Peterson …
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-01/tony-fitzgerald-says-newman-government-inexperienced-arrogant/5422726
Still, on the positive side adult voters who elected these childish bunch of twats will have a little more experience when they put pencil to paper (always been suspicious of the pencil!) at the ballot box next time …
“No changes to negative gearing or family trusts … “
Closing these loopholes is an obvious and logical move, especially when the marketing pitch is to share the pain. Much as I would like to believe the government is being economically responsible, the evidence isn’t htere to make the case. I really hope I’m wrong on this.
NATSEM analysis confirms: the burden of the budget will fall most heavily on the poorest families..
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/natsem-analysis-confirms-the-burden-of-the-budget-will-fall-most-heavily-on-the-poorest-families-20140521-38p4i.html#ixzz32P0f0lUG
loophole already found
Yes, and you wonder if the loophole is there deliberately? Nah, that couldn’t be 😉
And the fact that this is Temporary, whereas the hit on everyone else is a Permanent feature.
especially when the marketing pitch is to share the pain.
That is what is so bewildering. For them to stand up and say We Are All Paying, when a cursory glance at the types of decisions made show quite blatantly this is not the case. And to stand there and deny that things were said before the election when their are numerous examples, shown to them, and then still denied.
The ignorance and arrogance displayed is blindingly willful. It really does make you wonder at the sanity within.
Add to that the duplicitous nature of the Budget Emergency, and ease with which that lie is exposed.
My main query is how can ANYONE defend it at all?
CLASS WARFARE!! Where have I heard that before?
Mmmmm … one wonders what the Liberal Party (or its new controllers) is really up to …
I have never attended a protest march in my life (not even during the VN war) … there is always a first time!
Slanting is permissible, in the same way that omitting stories is also legitimate. Editor’s choice.
I think I have a possible answer to my main query above. It also lends itself to the sanity issue I mentioned 😯
I have never attended a protest march in my life (not even during the VN war) … there is always a first time!
GetUp! and Get Shouty you little Anarchist, it seems to be current rage 🙂
Mind you, without the support of shockjocks and mining magnates, it really doesn’t hold any relevance (quite obviously) 😉
You know – even I didn’t think the Libs would turn out to be worse than the ALP!
Incredibly naïve and incompet …
“GetUp! and Get Shouty you little Anarchist”
LOL!
and incompet
LOL!!!! Incompetent!
“GetUp! and Get Shouty you little Anarchist”
LOL! Waddya mean … fkn little! 🙂
Waddya mean … fkn little!
I was sure how deep your anarchy ran 😉
Obviously those with an interest in pushing a leftist agenda have a vested interest in everybody forgetting about communism. They are shit scared people might learn something from the lessons of history.
That would be utter BS. it’s just not relevant to us and no amount of screeching communist at people will make them so. How come you don’t scream social democrat at people?? That would be more relevant, at least to me. All the communist debate does is immediately take it to the extremes [as shown by the debate above].
History is very important which is why the right is so desperate to disown hitler and the comparison with their own fascist regimes.
My main gripe is not so much with programs to help people in dire need so much as the inability of the left (that doesn’t include you TB) to put any real proposal to generate the wealth necessary to fund the spending.
That’s not true, we’ve been putting forward suggestions [as have many media commentators] ever since the budget was brought down. Are the many issues like tax reform, super reform, negative gearing, family trusts etc, not real? People aren’t stupid, they know that the poor, the sick and the elderly shouldn’t be sacrificed when there is loads of taxpayer funding directed to the wealthy and the wealthy get more out of our tax system [miners, finance industries, developers etc]
All we need is a government prepared to do the heavy lifting.
A good article:
Congratulations Essendon for using the power of sport to change things for the better
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/congratulations-essendon-for-using-the-power-of-sport-to-change-things-for-the-better-20140521-zrjy2.html#ixzz32OwImiCO
And Rudd and Garrett and Swan, A grange idea turned out to be a bottle of weak piss with a grape seed in it.
Yeah the Fiberal show trials were supposed to be the big fiberal fireworks show to herald the new age budget of heavy gifting….However as always, the liberals promised much but delivered smoke and fizzers as they inadvertently pointed the ball shooters at themselves. Then Hokey dropped his stogie in the box as there plans and people all went up in flames all the while blaming Labor.shouting “trust us” “mandate” “emergency”…. providing a much better show indeed 🙂
peter dutton [brisbane radio this am] says there is a built in penalty to gp’s if they don’t bulk bill, he also confirmed that people will be up for additional co-payments for scripts, pathology and radiology, each time they are Rx by the Dr. And none of the revenue will go into medicare, all to the new research program.
B/billing is at dr discretion, but they will suffer a financial loss if they do.
All I can say is that it makes a lie out of their constant refrain of “medicare is unsustainable” which is what dutton started the brisbane radio segment saying.Iif medicare needs the taxpayer to contribute privately as well as through their tax contributions, why isn’t the money going back into funding hospitals and health care?
Here’s the news.com.au photo …
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/i-shouldnt-have-done-it-karl-tony-abbott-admits-yesterdays-wink-was-a-mistake/story-fn84fgcm-1226926448003
Just a question for the photoshop experts here … but gee … I could do that with CorelDraw Photopaint or even the free Paint …
Try winking with a straight mouth …
Just sayin’ …
And now its Abbott’s “cheeky” wink … FMD! Send in the clowns … I smell a Murdoch touch … up …
And desperate to find something positive …
http://www.news.com.au/
That should be funded by a Business Super Profits Tax – not by sick children!
Prime Minister Tony Abbott has described the budget as a “fire brigade” putting out a fiscal fire…
“You see, we had a fire, and the budget is the fire brigade. And sure, sometimes the fire brigade knocks over a few fences in order to put out the fire. But if you’ve got a fire you’ve got to put it out,” he told 774 ABC Melbourne’s Jon Faine.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-21/tony-abbott-describes-budget-as-fire-brigade/5467546
#ADULTGOVT
Tinkler @ICAC the art of good cop bad cop:
http://nofibs.com.au/2014/05/20/tinkler-icac-art-good-bad-cops-boeufblogginon/
ICAC’s Operation Spicer: What happens next:
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/icacs-operation-spicer-what-happens-next-20140520-zriws.html
Somehow, I don’t think the DPP will find any ‘public interest’ in prosecuting those appearing in ICAC. Why is it so?
http://m.smh.com.au/comment/no-way-tony-abbott-can-now-budget-for-a-second-term-20140521-zrjie.html
From Kittylitter’s link…
“Economists expect that the fall in real wages will flow through to hit the economy as already nervous households further slash spending, and consumer confidence has fallen at its fastest rate since before the global financial crisis.”
It’s just marvellous isn’t it.
In the space of a few short months, the Abbott govt has fucked our relationship with Indonesia, trashed our Human Rights reputation around the globe and now fucked the economy well and truly.
Meanwhile the PM’s roling around winking at DJs and talking about fire trucks.
Was there ever such a shambolic bunch of conceited idiotic amateurs??!!
Today there is a concerted attack by News Ltd in the Telegraph on people with disability spouting some type of bizarre correlation between dead diggers and dole bludgers? What the hell is that about? Talk about lowest common denominator, sensationalist news quackery. This thinly veiled attempt to prosecute the governments budget of heavy gifting is both Disgraceful and shamefully unAustralian. This profane ideologist propaganda from a Yank totalitarian robber Barron comes from Murdoch.. Mr 800 million in tax evasion preaching morality.. Such transparent shameful hypocrisy.
This shit must stop..it just must, its unhealthy for society,to be demonising those of disability to sell papers and ideology. Such manufactured faux outrage is indefensibly immoral.
Going hard here
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-disability-support-pensioners-now-outnumber-australias-total-war-wounded-by-more-than-44000/story-fncynjr2-1226926318057
then again..
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/the-nation-cant-carry-this-unfair-burden/story-fni0cwl5-1226926154246
and here
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/a-million-could-be-relying-on-a-handout-it-just-doesnt-add-up/story-fni0cx12-1226926307970
“Today there is a concerted attack by News Ltd in the Telegraph on people with disability spouting some type of bizarre correlation between dead diggers and dole bludgers”
Yeah, it’s diabolical but at least shows which team the Daily Terror barracks for and it’s not the poor or elderly.
Its no secret the Murdocracy barracks for the Coalition, in the same way Fairfax does the bidding of the left. This is good for democracy.
On one hand…
• I’m not opposed to pension age change/increase, it is inevitable.
• I’m quite ok with the $7 Medicare payment, and I’m not even particularly fussed whether it is allocated to medical research or general revenue. “Free” services aren’t valued.
• I’m supportive of offloading some pen pushing public servants, who regard Tim Tams as a perk of the job.
On the other hand…
• I can’t stand the ever increasing trend to put students into higher debt levels before they even get a job.
• I can’t even begin to comprehend why any government would think it is reasonable to have a 29 year old (say with a mortgage and a couple of kids) wait 6 months to collect unemployment benefits. That is simply outrageous.
Meanwhile the PM’s roling around winking at DJs and talking about fire trucks…
Surely there comes a time when “the blokes” just have to stop excusing his behaviour as “he’s just one of us, this is how a real bloke behaves” and loving him in the trenches fighting the good fight for the rich old white guys who rule the world and those fkn feminazis.
BBC News: Abbott and the wink
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27498215
Its no secret the Murdocracy barracks for the Coalition, in the same way Fairfax does the bidding of the left. This is good for democracy.
FFS 🙄
no concern over the disgraceful misrepresentation of people with disabilities, just a quip about media bias in action? media bias, news misinformation and propaganda is NOT good for democracy.
“This is good for democracy.”
Is it fuck. 🙄
“I’m not opposed to pension age change/increase, it is inevitable.”
Perhaps…
HOWEVER, Smokin’ Joe is now talking raising the preservation age for superannuation entitlements to 70 as well.
That’s fkn outrageous!!
I’m quite ok with the $7 Medicare payment, and I’m not even particularly fussed whether it is allocated to medical research or general revenue. “Free” services aren’t valued.
We’ve been making co-payments to all health services for decades, as well as paying the levy, not free at all. Seems to me that only the pensioners & health card holders and the very wealthy get bulk billing [eg hockey’s postcode]. I’ve never received it in my life. Where do you have to live to get all the freebies?
HOWEVER, Smokin’ Joe is now talking raising the preservation age for superannuation entitlements to 70 as well.
well, we’ll have to be working to get the employer’s corporate private health insurance scheme. By that age we’ll be at the dr every week and those meds aren’t cheap, especially with the FTA’s that we grovel to sign. US style healthcare, here we come!
I am very concerned that the chronically ill and the elderly will stop taking some medications if they can’t afford their script & meds. Potential for some real problems, even deaths, certainly more hospital admissions.
‘…media bias, news misinformation and propaganda is NOT good for democracy.’
Hockey is suing Fairfax for defamation and should win. There is nothing wrong with different points of view in a democracy, you have to read between the lines.
Aunty dresses on the left.
Nice
impersonation ofpersonification of imbacillic stupidityMaybe you personally Tom.. but I take it you’re not on a pension and own your own home, nor paying rent… spare a thought for those of lesser means living week to week and already stretched, to which he impact is significant.
Tom did you write that piece in today’s terrorgraph,? if not you should punt for a gig there with such a flair for nefarious portrayals of evil administrators of the stuff the fiberals hate…, like legal services, health, emergency services, information, social support and such… I don’t know how they gt the time to work in between Tim Tams 🙄
After all if the fiberals just ignore anyyone under 30 and those with disability… they will just disappear right? then we wont need any public services at all because the free market knows best…. Its all there in the methodology of Audit.. Tony Shepard knows all.. he just does..
There is nothing wrong with different points of view in a democracy
That’s not the same thing as having a biased media outlet
Kench Allenby: Hello, Miss Jackson. Didn’t mean to scare you.
Linda Jackson: Mr. Allenby, I wasn’t expecting you to…
Kench Allenby: Yeah, no, I know. Neither was I. But then I heard about this little story that Ron Burgundy and Brian Fantana are running. You see, some of the planes from my airline have had parts falling off them lately. Is it a problem? Yeah. Is it being fixed? I don’t know, probably. But if that story runs, then Koala stock will plummet.
Linda Jackson: We can’t just pull the story, that would be unethical.
Kench Allenby: We own the news. We can do whatever we want, that’s one of the perks. It’s called “synergy.” One company working with another.
[holding up his glass]
Kench Allenby: To synergy.
http://www.moviequotesandmore.com/anchorman-2-quotes-1.html
Hey Reb did you ban squeal? or is he just cowering under his bed, trembling in the fetal position sucking a thumb, clutching a framed Howard portrait chanting ….mandate mandate mandate catatonic from the horror of the budget of indefensible fucktardery… 🙂
Hey Reb did you ban squeal? or is he just cowering under his bed,
Probably still trying to find the little balls from the broken abacus he trashed trying to balance this budget with its promises
“I’m not opposed to pension age change/increase, it is inevitable.”
You will … the aches and pains will creep up a lot quicker than you realise … and all those little bumps and strains you experience now on the surfboard will come back to haunt you one by one and some …*
… and by our calculations our income will decrease at least $800 pa … I feel sorry for the poor bastards who have nothing BUT the pension and have probably worked harder all their lives than any shiny arses in Canberra …
* how do I know? Well, apart from my age 🙂 I started my career as motor mech … lifting transmissions and diffs in and out of cars by hand …
Never judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in his shoes.
Hockey is suing Fairfax for defamation and should win.
Says who?
Probably still trying to find the little balls
Ha … that explains the popping noises everywhere … those Liberal Party Cra’ked Crystal Balls are simply exploding with too much overload!
“Hey Reb did you ban squeal? “
Nope..
He’s probably trying to figure how to defend the “fire truck” analogy after the winkgate furore…
You assume They have balls the Minister for Vaginal representation has no plumbs..he proved that today by not attending Deakin… it must be that time of the month..
…In the space of a few short months, the Abbott govt has fucked our relationship with Indonesia, trashed our Human Rights reputation around the globe and now fucked the economy well and truly…
the europeans think he’s a dickhead too
http://reneweconomy.com.au/2014/euro-ambassadors-shocked-australias-anti-climate-stance-89032
…The ambassadors, speaking at a function at ANU, said they were “surprised” and “shocked” that Australia was seeking to remove a carbon price and a market mechanism, and was not including environment issues on the G20 conference it was hosting later this year.
sven-olof“I’m amazed a that a Liberal government does not choose a market mechanism to regulate emissions,” the Swedish ambassador Sven-Olof Petersson (pictured) said. “I think that is really shocking.”…
…The international community is also frustrated that Australia has refused to include climate change and other environmental concerns on the G20 agenda, apparently because Prime Minister Tony Abbott wants to keep the final communiqué “simple” and worries that climate change is too complicated…
Why don’t they boycott the G20, show some ticker, bugger diplomacy.
eedjit
retweets are not my personal opinion 😉
OFF TOPIC BUT IMPORTANT
eBAY USERS
eBay was hacked earlier this year and eBay is asking you to change your password …
winkgate
LOL! 🙂
winkgate.. kak 🙂
‘That’s not the same thing as having a biased media outlet’
Fairfax is biased.
I’ll show you biased and this is not good for democracy anywhere.. this is deplorable , lazy w and despicable…
‘Need I go on?’
Under the imperial yoke.
http://chinadailymail.com/2014/04/13/mans-confesses-in-first-public-trial-of-chinas-rumour-crackdown/
From that link.
‘Online rumours are particularly pervasive in China, where traditional media is heavily regulated by the government and public trust in the media is low.’
Democracy craves diversity of opinion.
Under the imperial yoke.
What you don’t seem to understand is that this is exactly what the Federal Liberal Government (the Nationals simply don’t exist except as “numbers” and are led by a moron) and Queensland’s LNP (led by a developers puppet) are actually doing to our country … insidiously, covertly until they have people by the balls and they go SHIT! … the same way that a certain Austrian chappie did to Germany in the 1930’s (don’t want to offend ToSY) …
As long as we have diversity of news and opinion our democracy is safe.
This is good for democracy…
…Democracy craves diversity of opinion…
I think you’re talking rubbish [again]. You just parrot glib phrases and overlook really important and basic fundamentals of media and democracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_democracy
The AMA has weighed in on Joe Hockey’s proposed changes Australia’s health services
The Allergists voted to scratch them, but the
Dermatologists advised not to make any rash moves.
The Gastroenterologists had a sort of a gut feeling about it, but the
Neurologists thought he had a lot of nerve.
The Obstetricians felt he was labouring under a misconception.
Ophthalmologists considered the ideas short-sighted.
Pathologists yelled, “Over my dead body!” while the
Paediatricians said, “Oh, Grow up!”
The Psychiatrists thought the ideas were madness, while the
Radiologists could see right through them.
The Surgeons were fed up with the cuts and decided to wash their hands of
the whole thing.
The ENT specialists didn’t swallow it, and just wouldn’t hear of it.
The Pharmacists thought it was a bitter pill to swallow, and the
Plastic Surgeons said, “This puts a whole new face on the matter….”
The Podiatrists thought it was a step forward, but the
Urologists were pissed off at the whole idea.
The Anaesthetists thought the ideas were a gas, but the
Cardiologists didn’t have the heart to say no.
In the end, the Proctologists won out, leaving the entire decision up to the
arseholes in parliament!
”””””””deaths come from Iraq Body Count. Care to point out where their methods are wrong ( https://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/ ) ?”””””””
Tinfoil`osy, l don`t know their methods, nor have time to research them.
From the site, they claim `documented` deaths, which IS my point,
Do you really believe every death IS `documented`, as l don`t.
”””””””’deaths of combatants, my answer was in response to AO’s claim that “bush, howard and blair, killed millions of other innocent people”.””””””’
””CAUSED the DEATH of NUMBERS of other innocent people””
Toning it down a bit, l agree with AO, the three amigos are responsible for many more dead than numbers provided, as l said previously, they would find all kinds of ways to `classify` them `off-the-count`,
just as discharged soldiers that eat their gun from mental breakdown `caused` by battle, are not counted as `war-dead`.
””””””””Why do we keep debating communism as if it’s relevant to people here?
> An opposing viewpoint to a right winger, does not a communist make.
>
> That’s the go to teabag phrase when confronted by factual truth and they have nothing but parroted,regurgitated, rhetorical””””””””””””(ricky)
.
””””””””not balanced and distorts the truth … common among those who defend the current Australian tory government program of using an imbalance of democratic power for suppression and control of the weak, poor, young, sick, old and frail … what a great system that is!”””””””””(TB)
.
l think this high-lights the effect crap-media is having on the public. The public are starting to accept nonsense usually referred to as BULLSHIT as a `view` because lazy teabag-media have given bullshit a sort of `validity` by indulging it. This is the circular, dumbing-down of `news`/information that hurts the public more than it helps. (Australia`s media environment is also the prime example of why places like China will not allow a `free-press`.)
‘I think you’re talking rubbish [again]. You just parrot glib phrases and overlook really important and basic fundamentals of media and democracy.’
From Kitty’s link….
‘The stated purpose for doing so is to create a mass media system that informs and empowers all members of society, and enhances democratic values. It is a liberal-democratic approach to media studies that advocates the reformation of the mass media with an emphasis on public service broadcasting and audience participation, through the use of citizen journalism…’
The twittersphere and blogosphere fulfil that function, but it would be best if the ABC received more funds and all right wing organisations like The Oz be closed down. Particularly Andrew Bolt on both platforms.
Its a perfect world where the left never gets criticised and the right is always condemned, democracy should flourish.
(armchair)”””””””””””’me, I’m with banksy, I think aussies should start showing some anarchy, start to give a f*ck about something other than themselves. Loving the student protests, gives me hope that all is not lost.””””””””’
first `anarchy` won`t prove much, it is basically what is being dished-out by the teabags, has been since the John-W regime, they have successfully continually plucked-off bits of our system to make it `fail-to-work-correctly`,
e.g the teabags don`t like Govt-welfare/pensions, but they don`t like `super` either, which was at least a partial `cure` to Govt-pensions, so the teabags went about `indirectly` wrecking `super` by wrecking employment prospects and conditions, this will eventually create `crime-based-anarchy`
””’gives me hope that all is not lost””’
l can reassure you, much is lost.
(armchair)”””””””””””’the FTA’s that we grovel to sign. US style healthcare, here we come!
I am very concerned that the chronically ill and the elderly will stop taking some medications if they can’t afford their script & meds. Potential for some real problems, even deaths, certainly more hospital admissions.”””””””””
its already happening armchair, l saw talking-heads(medical) on the telly this week saying this was already a problem with elderly and `ill` pensioners, they phone their quack to find out ””which of their medicines they can getaway with skipping, as they can`t afford all of the medicines this week””, the talking-heads seem to be hopping mad, claiming this WILL get worse.
Same talking-heads also mad about $7feetax, already got pensioners phoning quacks to cancel/put-off medical visits/check-ups.
#China is communist
”””It used to be.”””
#the following is `blather`
””””””””’China is moving to a market economy while still maintaining vestiges of the totalitarian trappings of communism.
The reason 300 million Chinese have been lifted out of dire poverty is the operation of the market.
There is less equality in China now but the people are better off.”””””””’
#you jump from `economy` to `totalitarian`,
but do you really think `economy` and `society` or `culture` is the same thing.
You are parroting foxtard-news screeching here.
Who said China should be stupid, and not collect 50% ownership of international businesses that want access to China`s market and labor.
“Its a perfect world where the left never gets criticised and the right is always condemned, democracy should flourish.”
The intelligentsia really do like shutting people up. Whether by sending in socialist agitators to shout down their opponents or passing repressive laws. Underpants Controy was a classic example.
They are also ridiculously thin-skinned. These strutting wannabe emporers with eggshell egos seem very fragile when the intellectual nakedness of their facile ideas is called out.
#Thailand verses China (economy), Thailand is slipping, too much political upheaval, China won`t make that mistake.
‘with eggshell egos seem very fragile when the intellectual nakedness of their facile ideas is called out.’
Yep.
They are also ridiculously thin-skinned. These strutting wannabe emporers with eggshell egos seem very fragile when the intellectual nakedness of their facile ideas is called out.
Sounds like:
Sir Noddy Newman & The Nitwits
… and …
Areshole Abbott & The Tonedeafs
sb …
with eggshell egos seem very fragile when the intellectual nakedness of their facile ideas is called out.’
yep, like their entire ideology.
Sending All The Wrong Signals:
https://newmatilda.com/2014/05/22/sending-all-wrong-signals
I always knew, Tones, was a
fkn hypocritenoice, honest man …http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/26/tony-abbott-adds-family-gifts-to-pecuniary-interest-register