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ANDREW BOLT: “DEMENTED AND UNHINGED!” SAYS TURNBULL

June 2, 2014

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The Coalition is turning on itself and its supporters in the wake of new reports that show that business confidence and consumer sentiment has tanked following the unveiling of the government’s harsh budget measures.

The widely unpopular budget has been criticised for unfairly targeting low and middle income earners, the unemployed and elderly while the relatively wealthy escape unscathed.

COALITION IN COMPLETE DISARRAY!

In recent days, the Prime Minister has been forced to contradict claims made by Education Minister Christopher Pyne that outstanding HECS debt would be pursued for payment from beyond the grave of deceased former students.

More recently Mr Abbott has been forced to reject claims made by Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews that welfare recipients would be forced to undergo mandatory drug-testing or have their welfare entitlements curtailed.

DEMENTED AND UNHINGED!

You’d be forgiven for struggling to keep up with the shambolic chaos that’s unfolding in the Coalition.

Today Malcolm Turnbull has lashed out at the Coalition’s best friend in the media Andrew Bolt calling him “demented” and ”unhinged” after speculating that he was “undermining the Prime Minister.”

Mr Turnbull said that Mr Bolt’s absurd theories were “damaging the government.”

“Mr Bolt, proclaims loudly that he is a friend of the government. Well with friends like Bolt, we don’t need any enemies,’’ he told The Gutter Trash.

Mr Turnbull was incensed on Sunday when Mr Bolt, while interviewing Mr Abbott on his weekly TV show, asked the Prime Minister: “Now, why is Malcolm Turnbull wooing Clive Palmer on his own? It looks like he’s got his eye on your job.”

This was a reference to a casual dinner in Canberra last week with Mr Turnbull, Mr Palmer, Treasurer Secretary Martin Parkinson and businessmen John Fast and Tom Harley.

The participants all claimed it was a spontaneous and harmless gathering but it spiked paranoia inside the Coalition because Mr Palmer has been refusing to even talk to anyone else in the Coalition until he is given what he considers ample resources.

In his newspaper column on Monday, Mr Bolt continued the attack on Mr Turnbull, saying the dinner sent “an unmistakeable message to Liberal MPs:

“Replace Abbott with Turnbull as prime minister and Maybe Palmer will play ball’’.

Mr Bolt further accused Mr Turnbull of giving comfort to the enemy by launching a new parliamentary group of friends of the ABC.

Mr Turnbull said: “it borders on the demented to string together a dinner with Clive Palmer and my attending as the Communications Minister the launch by a cross-party group of friends of the ABC and say that that amounts to some kind of threat or challenge to the Prime Minister.”

“It is quite unhinged. Now, Mr Bolt is fond of attacking what he regards as the government’s enemies” in the media, principal amongst whom of course he numbers the ABC. I don’t think you would see anything as crazy as that on the ABC,’’ he said.

However, with Mr Abbott’s popularity careering on a trajectory towards gutter level and many Coalition backbenchers reeling from an overwhelming negative backlash to the federal budget, many are now openly speculating whether Abbott’s leadership is now terminal.

 

 

 

 

 

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343 Comments leave one →
  1. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2014 1:55 pm

    pot – kettle ❓

  2. June 2, 2014 2:14 pm

    Terminal? Oh no! Better call Peta’s Palliative Care (co-payment may be required)

  3. June 2, 2014 2:16 pm

    Go Andy! Blessed are they who sow the seeds of discontent in a garden of arseholes!

  4. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 2, 2014 2:20 pm

    Bolt really seems to have lost the plot, and “demented” seems a reasonable description.

  5. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2014 2:24 pm

    bolt never had the plot

  6. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 2, 2014 2:45 pm

    Bolt was capable of making a rational point in the past.

    Now he seems to be motivated by niggly obsessions bordering on an obsessive compulsive disorder.

    For example some of his comments about Waleed Aly are bizarre. Waleed Aly is a little bland and verbose, perhaps. But to make him into a target is simply stupid.

    Bolt also seems to be determined to criticise anyone who sees the need to moderate their tone in order to advance aboriginal reconciliation too.

    He’s become quite odd.

  7. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2014 2:55 pm

    Bolt was capable of making a rational point in the past.

    if you barracked for him, you might have got that impression

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2014 3:05 pm

    … with Mr Abbott’s popularity careering on a trajectory towards gutter level ….

    No! No! No! No! That would be going UP, sreb … his popularity is plummeting – DOWN …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Bolt was capable of making a rational point in the past.

    Wosh yo mouf out, Thomas …

    That is comedy gold!

    You don’t really believe that, surely?

  9. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2014 3:07 pm

    He’s become quite odd.

    There’s a few around, ToM, ‘cept thee and me … an’ I’m not so sure about thee …

  10. June 2, 2014 6:11 pm

    I concur that Bolt has made the occasional reasonable point in the past…& few loathe the polemic bilgemaster more than I do.

    It usually only happens when he strays into the real world & avoids his common partisan tropes, left v right inanity, US rightwing thinktank domestically inappropriate talking points, outright political cheerleading, outright partisan political hatchet jobs, bizarre victimhood diatribes, strange racebaiting etc.
    In other words, not very often at all.

    It’s good to see Turnbull ridiculing him on the public record. Bolt is used to having an almost unassailable soapbox to squeal from, without return fire from the higher echelons.
    I suspect it will spurn him into a churlish retort.

  11. June 2, 2014 6:32 pm

    Sooooo…Turnbull may have gotten under Herr Bolt’s skin a little; how dare he respond to Andrew’s personal attempts to undermine him!!!

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/coiumn_malcom_turnbulls_mate_clive_palmer_could_destroy_tony_abbott/

  12. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2014 6:35 pm

    It’s good to see Turnbull ridiculing him on the public record

    All part of the, et tu, Brute, dastardly plan, Toilette? ie “I’m not like them …”

    All in the game … ?

  13. June 2, 2014 6:38 pm

    No doubt, TB.

    Turnbull is playing his own game.

    I just enjoy watching Bolt getting pinned under the microscope by his ‘betters’. Haha…

    Followed by…

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/on_2gb_tonight_malcolm_turnbull_proves_me_right/

  14. June 2, 2014 6:44 pm

    And, just for laffs, to illustrate Bolt’s usual off kilter take on current affairs or should I say, his running interference for his ideological golems

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_end_this_anti_catholic_witchhunt/

    Because, as we know, trying to throw light upon sexual abuse & its enablers/hiders within a monolithic religious institution is a ‘witch hunt’! How very dare they!!!

    Jesus rotted…but he would have wept, had he been real, meant what he was supposed to have said & urged his willing lickspittles to do accordingly.

  15. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2014 7:25 pm

    I concur that Bolt has made the occasional reasonable point in the past

    “if you give 1000 monkeys 1000 typewriters”

    but he would have wept, had he been real

    I hear the imaginary one sobbing right now.

    Any idea what dolts opinion on the pink batt witch hunt is? Somehow I don’t think I’ll be surprised if I find out he’s all for that.

  16. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2014 7:30 pm

    I just enjoy watching Bolt getting pinned under the microscope by his ‘betters’. Haha…

    Thanks for the link … loved the comments (read first three pages) …

    Brought back memories of being banned from his blog … the year I first discovered Blogocracy! LOL!

  17. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2014 7:32 pm

    Jesus rotted…but he would have wept, had he been real, meant what he was supposed to have said & urged his willing lickspittles to do accordingly.

    Hear, hear … the knowledge is certainly not put into practice (massive NYC …)

  18. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2014 7:33 pm

    YAAAY. We are now completely embarrassed overseas. Mission accomplished?

  19. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2014 7:41 pm

    Yeah, TR posted the same link on the Lest We Forget thread … wait till the Poms get it …

  20. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 2, 2014 7:46 pm

    YAAAY. We are now completely embarrassed overseas.

    True, but not for the first time!

  21. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2014 7:47 pm

    Just saw it there TB. Getting dizzy going back and forward. Time for a lie down and a cuppa I think 😉

  22. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2014 7:49 pm

    but not for the first time!

    You’ll have to forgive me yomm but, not being a mindless barracker, I don’t see the link to a roomful of foreigners laughing their heads off at her expense? Just mindless barrackers who are still smarting over their lunch money

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2014 8:17 pm

    Getting dizzy going back and forward

    Chuckle … had the same thought, TR …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    True, but not for the first time!

    Your barrel’s obviously empty, ToM … you may think people (anyone) having accidents is funny but most don’t …

  24. June 2, 2014 8:32 pm

    “Bolt has made the occasional reasonable point in the past”

    Next time I think he does it I’ll post a link; don’t hold your breath.

    I like to do that because I try not to be absolutist about the things which repel me…& I genuinely believe that almost everything/issue has shades of grey which are worth acknowledgement.

  25. Tony permalink
    June 2, 2014 9:21 pm

    “YAAAY. We are now completely embarrassed overseas. Mission accomplished?”

    Really? Realy?

    I, for one, am not embarrassed by what people from other countries think about what happens here. (They used to call that kind of “embarrassment” “cultural cringe”.)

  26. egg permalink
    June 2, 2014 9:33 pm

    74% of SMH readers think Turnbull should lead the Coalition.

  27. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 2, 2014 10:02 pm

    The Pope and Tony Abbott are on the same stage in front of a huge crowd, at the AFL Grand Final.

    The Pope leaned towards Tony and said, “Do you know that with one little movement of my hand I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, like those barrackers in this football match, but go deep into their hearts, and they’ll forever speak of this day and rejoice!”

    Tony replied, “Really? With one little wave of your hand? Show me.”

    So the Pope backhanded the self-important, little turd and the crowd went wild.

  28. June 2, 2014 11:41 pm

    the cashew in Clives Turd passed after that dinner has more credibility than Dolt, he’s opinion is about as wiffy as a smear of the Bronnies panties

  29. public toilet permalink
    June 2, 2014 11:52 pm

    LOL @ YomM!

  30. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 8:49 am

    The Abbott government did no modelling on how its $7 Medicare co-payment would impact on emergency departments, despite doctors and the states warning patients may inundate hospitals to avoid it.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/02/no-modelling-done-medicare-payment?CMP=soc_567

    Chaotic, shambolic government?

  31. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 8:54 am

    I, for one, am not embarrassed by what people from other countries think about what happens here.

    Perhaps your skin is just thicker Tony 😉

    But, to be clear, I have been embarrassed of tabot well before he even became opposition leader. My embarrassment reached fever pitch once it became clear the majority of australians would vote this twerp in. Now, the embarrassment has gone global. viral even.

    I remember the good old days when we laughed at Americans because of george junior. Looks like we have out-clowned even them.

  32. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:07 am

    The most embarrassing action I can recall was when Gillard handballed an AFL football to Obama.

    It was a humiliation for anyone that would prefer Prime Ministers to present a civilised image. Gillard was a clumsy publicity seeking disaster on the international stage.

    Imagine the (justified) humiliation if Abbott tries that stunt with the Indonesian President.

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:08 am

    I, for one, am not embarrassed by what people from other countries think about what happens here.

    That’s a comforting thought, ToSY, thanks for sharing …

    As a supporter of the adult Liberal Party though, you might consider that the majority of Australians probably are embarrassed (or at least concerned with the amateur performance of the government front bench) and it will certainly influence the way some people vote.

    http://www.afr.com/p/national/budget_sell_fails_as_newspoll_brings_3sjFS3R0yyWQqc8U468UqO

    Can’t wait for the next series of Abbott Gaffes on the global stage … 🙂

  34. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:10 am

    The most embarrassing action I can recall was when Gillard handballed an AFL football to Obama.

    And Gillard is no longer an MP/PM … Abbott is (playing at one) …

  35. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:10 am

    yomm still seeking the lost lunch money

    Now THAT’S embarrassing ROFL

    pwnd by a ranga

  36. egg permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:38 am

    The government’s non-advertising campaign worked extremely well.

  37. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:43 am

    I get the feeling I am taking that “out of context” egg

  38. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:48 am

    “And Gillard is no longer an MP/PM … Abbott is (playing at one) …”

    And that is the point.

    The budget is at best incoherent. It involved breaking promises which Abbott made when he was well aware of the parlous state of government finances. Indeed he campaigned on that issue. He has also been unable to sell whatever virtues he sees in his budget. In fact every time he opens his mouth it looks worse for him. Epic fail.

    It is not to the point to blame his critics. His abject image with voters is almost entirely his own doing.

    I’m not completely negative about Abbott. The government has some achievements but the budget is a debacle and Abbott’s unlovely persona makes matters worse as he struggles to explain himself.

  39. ADS permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:49 am

    I’m embarrassed that so many people are overcome by Abbott Derangement Syndrome so easily embarrassed.

  40. egg permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:52 am

    ‘I get the feeling I am taking that “out of context” egg’

    TB taught me irony.

  41. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:59 am

    TB taught me irony.

    Did he teach you how to back up wild claims you make about people, or do we just assume the EVERYTHING you post is “irony”

    Others might say bullshit, but I’ll be nice and say ‘Irony”

  42. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 11:01 am

    so easily embarrassed.

    Considering the amount of material left out of that video, I’m not sure “easily” is the correct term to be using Tosy 😉

  43. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2014 11:15 am

    Honestly, this is embarrassing and bizarre. Who would have put Obama up to this, which of Gillard’s hacks thought this would be the image of a statesperson?

    What would Tom R say if Abbott tries this with Bamnang Yudoyono?

  44. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 3, 2014 11:17 am

    perhaps andrew should try for liberal party preselection, he loves his liberal party, always on guard and sniffing the breeze for any possible threat to his mates. G’arn andrew, see how you go in the real political arena, assess your public support beyond your sneering sniper attacks under cover of powerful media protection.

  45. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 11:19 am

    Like Bamnang Yudoyono would let tabot in his office.

  46. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2014 11:20 am

    The government has some achievements …

    Could you elaborate?

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2014 11:24 am

    G’arn Andrew …

    LOL!

  48. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 11:24 am

    Could you elaborate?

    They stopped (telling us about) the boats ❓

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2014 11:29 am

    ROFLMAO! @ TR …

  50. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 1:00 pm

    but apparently he lets journos in yomm 😆

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-03/code-of-conduct-key-as-abbott-yudhoyono-prepare-talks/5495492

  51. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2014 2:25 pm

    ” bolt never had the plot”

    I wonder whether Tom R agrees with Bolt when he says – “The public is concerned about policy not structure, and the ALP is foolish to focus on internal structure.”

    Or does Tom R agree with me, in that I think the ALP needs internal reform.

  52. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 2:37 pm

    No and yes 😉

    But then, all political parties should always be concerned with internal structure. Time stands still for no-one 😉

    Mind you, bolt just shows how much of a dimwit he is when he carps on about Labor not having policies.The Last parliamentary period they showed they have an abundance of policy, as could be seen by his daily unhingement as they unrolled it.

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2014 3:14 pm

    “The public is concerned about policy not structure, and the ALP is foolish to focus on internal structure.”

    Considering the author … the content of that sentence is highly questionable … sounds quite demented and unhinged to me …

    The ALP actually has more policies than three word slogans … and it would appear that BOTH parties need a good clean out and freshening up … I think all but a couple here would agree …

  54. June 3, 2014 7:11 pm

    Hilarious!

    So, now we’ve adopted ‘Abbott Derangement Syndrome’ into the lexicon.

    I wonder where the roots of that gem stem from?…could it be a cheap reimagining of what loyal Bush lickspittles confected when they sought to conjure contempt for the opinion of anyone who dared criticise Their Intellectual Giant ‘W’?

  55. June 3, 2014 7:15 pm

    “perhaps andrew should try for liberal party preselection, he loves his liberal party, always on guard and sniffing the breeze for any possible threat to his mates. G’arn andrew, see how you go in the real political arena, assess your public support beyond your sneering sniper attacks under cover of powerful media protection.”

    I 2nd that!

    He’d be fucked if he tried. He has such a long digital documentary record of, shall I say, ‘less than moderate’ polemic positions to throw back in his face.
    His type of faecal output only impresses certain niches of the voting population. A pied piper of squealing knickerpissers.

  56. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 7:17 pm

    murdoch got george junior elected, then he got tabot elected.

    What a fine choice in candidates he has lol. Both fracking clowns

  57. June 3, 2014 7:25 pm

    Guffaw!…good ol’ Bolt, always working the angles…able to shoehorn just about any event to fit his ‘unhinged’ & ‘demented’ take on the world.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/bloated_the_abc_sends_four_people_to_my_home/

    He even has the total lack of self awareness to deem Turnbull’s return fire at him ” Turnbull’s insane attack on me”. Also “MALCOLM Turnbull’s wild abuse of me proves he is either selfish or deceitful.”

    Ahahahahaha…hahahaha…hahaha….if that don’t beat all!

    If you have a shot back at Herr Bolt, you must clearly be a ‘wild abuser’ undertaking ‘an insane attack’. Yeah, that stands up.
    Turnbull should just shut up & let Bolt continue to publically undermine him; likely for Abbott.

    Bolt once again displays his tremendous glass jaw.

  58. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 7:25 pm

    As far as Unicorns go toilet, this is perhaps the most bizarre.

    I also don’t think it will take the attention off the budget for long

    Once they try and get this crap through Parliament, it will all rise up again

  59. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2014 7:30 pm

    I see there is a post on Andrew Bolt.

    Not too sure what he said. But i do notice the leftoids are in outrage

    Anything that causes leftoids to be outraged is fine by me.

    GOOOOOOO ANDREW!!!

  60. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 7:37 pm

    Not too sure what he said.

    neither is he 😉

    But i do notice the leftoids are in outrage

    Are you sure you’re not confusing mirth with outrage ❓

  61. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2014 7:44 pm

    Anything that causes leftoids to be outraged is a good thing.

  62. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2014 7:44 pm

    Doesn’t Bolt have criminal record … ineligible?

    Not too sure what he said.

    Or anyone else …

    The Mothership has asked me to send a full dossier on strange Earthfolk … it is far easier than you may imagine …

    Blind hatred is a strange Earth human trait … fascinating … :mrgreen:

  63. egg permalink
    June 3, 2014 7:46 pm

    ‘Not too sure what he said.’

    Talcum went to a popular restaurant with fat Clive and said “I shouldn’t be here with you without Cred’s permission.”

    The Bolter saw this breaking of ranks as a declaration by Talcum that he’s after the crown. As a consequence the Communications Minister said Andrew is ‘demented’.

    Can’t argue with that.

  64. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2014 7:52 pm

    talcum said it was a random meeting

    kalive said talcum invited him

    dandy is upset he didn’t get invited to randomly meet kalive

    The plods thicken……..

  65. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2014 7:54 pm

    Wow

    All this outrage because people had dinner with each other.

    I guess WW3 may start next.

  66. June 3, 2014 7:55 pm

    Duuuuuh, Neil…the post is actually about Andrew Bolt being “in outrage”. Dense.

  67. June 3, 2014 7:55 pm

    “Can’t argue with that.”

    😯

  68. June 3, 2014 7:56 pm

    Once again…you monocular twit…it is Andrew Bolt who is outraged about who is having dinner with whom.

  69. June 3, 2014 7:59 pm

    “talcum said it was a random meeting”

    Otherwise known as the Dierdre Chambers effect…

  70. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2014 8:01 pm

    Just read some of the comments at Bolt’s shack … so funny – Liberal supporters ripping into each, into Turnbull, into “Andrew” and Abbott … nary a leftie comment to be seen …

    Kneel got one thing right for a change … Not too sure what he said. … some advise, Kneel, if you use a people like Andrew Bolt to “strengthen” your point … read it first … and then the comments … unfortunately comprehension is also a prerequisite at The Gutter Trash …

    One comment said “Andrew as a journalist its your job to bring them down” (them being the ALP) … ignorance is as ignorance does …

    Anything that causes leftoids to be outraged is a good thing.

    No outraged leftoids — when I looked in.

  71. egg permalink
    June 3, 2014 8:02 pm

    ‘Anything that causes leftoids to be outraged is a good thing.’

    People whispering would be more useful.

  72. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2014 8:05 pm

    I guess WW3 may start next.

    Ah … I’ve heard a bout that! The Liberal Party, Wild Wankers 3 … only people invited by text can attend …

  73. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2014 8:08 pm

    “it is Andrew Bolt who is outraged about who is having dinner with whom.

    OK But why is it news?? I spend most of my time trying to get results so i don’t become unemployed.

    Also i do agree with the leftoids saying about Abbotts tasteless comments linking DDAY to the govt policies.

    But i do not understand why leftoids spend so much time following everything that Abbott says. Do tleftoids have jobs?? I have never looked at the PM’s website until leftoids told me he had one. How much time do you spend reading the PM’s media releases??

  74. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2014 8:11 pm

    I spend most of my time trying to get results

    Splurt … !!

    Not happening here …

  75. June 3, 2014 8:15 pm

    “OK But why is it news?? ”

    Perhaps you’d better ask Herr Bolt? He seems to have a few ‘demented’ & ‘unhinged’ views on the event.

    Just so you know, I work 6 days a week but, although I am aware that the PM would have some creepy conservative staffer & a phalanx of legal protection maintaining an official website for him, I would never bother to look at it. Not too difficult to guess the type of dross to be found there, I should think!

    Andrew ‘Herr’ Bolt, on the other hand, has injected himself into the public debate on account of his paranoid fetish…but poor precious got spanked & is now behaving like diddums.

  76. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2014 8:32 pm

    although I am aware that the PM would have some creepy conservative staffer & a phalanx of legal protection maintaining an official website for him, I would never bother to look at it”

    Never bother to look at it?? Me too.

    Looks like leftoids spend their miserable lives 24/7 looking for stufups by Conservatives.

    When they wake up they download the PM’s website and spend hours looking for inconsistencies.

    They then spend the rest of the day looking for other conservative stuffups.

    If they find one they email each other on Twitter and then go to bed.

    When they wake up next day they repeat the process.

    Meanwhile most Conservatives go to work trying to get results so they don’t become unemployed.

  77. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2014 8:36 pm

    I don’t wish to be particularly rude, or hurt feelings…but apparently we’re coming up the annual executive sleep out to raise money for homelessness.

    The cause if fine, but all the crap and self congratulation that goes with it is f**king irksome. I see some tosser talking about putting their bodies on the line to help the homeless!!

    Really!! Spending a single evening networking with hundreds of business people at Ethiad Stadium is putting your body on the line?? <b?F**K OFF TOSSER!

    No doubt the CEOs of several prominent ASX companies will provide serious interviews on the night, and milk it for all it’s worth.

  78. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2014 8:37 pm

    …(just to clarify) I meant…

    F**K OFF TOSSER!

  79. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2014 8:41 pm

    Meanwhile most Conservatives go to work trying to get results so they don’t become unemployed.

    A lot of ’em seem to turn up here … and we’ve got no results … in yer dreams, Kneel …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yep! ToM! Like people who turn up at an ADF base to “get the feel” FKN stupid …

  80. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2014 9:00 pm

    …and I see that they raised an average of a miserly $420 per CEO. If they can’t figure out how to kick in a couple of $thousand each, they’re not trying and it is clearly only for feel good symbolism and personal networking.

  81. Uncle Rupe permalink
    June 3, 2014 9:27 pm

    “murdoch got george junior elected, then he got tabot elected”

    Yes. ‘Cause Rupert controls the Sheeples’ minds.

  82. First Pitch permalink
    June 3, 2014 9:30 pm

    F**K OFF TOSSER!

    I agree!

  83. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 3, 2014 9:50 pm

    …If they can’t figure out how to kick in a couple of $thousand each, they’re not trying and it is clearly only for feel good symbolism and personal networking…

    totally agree tomM, a few thousand would be small change on their wages. One night in a sleeping bag and they think they’re a saviour. 365 nights might impress more, you know ‘walk a mile in their shoes’. Ridiculous really, like a rich man’s sleepover or boy scout adventure!

    But i do not understand why leftoids spend so much time following everything that Abbott says. Do tleftoids have jobs?? I have never looked at the PM’s website until leftoids told me he had one. How much time do you spend reading the PM’s media releases??

    neil, we don’t all work 9 to 5, I’m a shiftworker, I can do three different shifts in 3-4 days eg a late, an early and then a couple of night shifts and then days off. My hours are all over the place and I am often awake when not many others are. no concern of yours.

    None of us on this site have to explain to you or anyone why we read twitter, blogs, newspapers or do anything at all. None of your business. I for one, don’t care what you do at home at your leisure or at work and what I do should be of no interest to you either.

    the reason we take note of what abbott says is because he’s the PM, the entire nation takes note of what he says, which is why he should be better at his job and not stuff up all the time. i’ve never looked at a lib party web site for anything and i doubt I ever will. i rarely look at bolt’s scribblings, usually only when he says something demented and unhinged.

    if you don’t like the communication, don’t participate, but don’t expect us to pander to stupid, petty little whinings that you dream up as some kind of ‘lefty criticism’.

    just go into your safe, happy place and come out when all this criticism of your beloved party and leader is over, you’ll feel better and we’ll pretend nothing has happened. Just for you. no need to have a meltdown.

  84. June 3, 2014 10:13 pm

    ” I’m a shiftworker, I can do three different shifts in 3-4 days eg a late, an early and then a couple of night shifts and then days off. My hours are all over the place and I am often awake when not many others are. no concern of yours.”

    I sympathise.

    I’m about to saunter off for nightshift myself…

  85. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:27 pm

    snap toilet, i just got home from evening shift, then have two night shifts from tomorrow, hope yours are good ones toilet because as we both know, they can be reeeaaallly loooong!

  86. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2014 10:27 pm

    “the reason we take note of what abbott says is because he’s the PM, the entire nation takes note of what he says,

    When Rudd/Gillard were PM i never visited their websites. Leftoids seem much more politically active than Conservatives

    Maybe leftoids are unemployed and have nothing better to do.

    As soon as Abbott says something controversial social media lights up and goes into leftoid anxiety.

    Me, i go to bed and then next day try to earn a living.

  87. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 3, 2014 11:16 pm

    how much does lib party propagandising pay?

  88. June 4, 2014 12:20 am

    I actually could not give a flying fuck what Dolt says as it’s intellectually beneath me. As I have stated many times he is a poor journalist, a dreadful debater, poorly researched and an outright liar. I do however acknowledge one unequivocal fact, Dolt fans are great barometer of just how gullibility stupid people can be in the proliferation of a brand swathed in lies and self promoting “up the anti” faux outrage..

    Squeal Moron Fodder

  89. June 4, 2014 1:07 am

    One very important fact in consideration of brand Dolt dissolving in popularity as the reality is revealed on a salient lack of credibility; he will never debate his detractors, especially if they are intellectually superior versed experts, preferring to cowardly attack their character. Why? because, like Abbott, in any situation beyond the confines of his control he is exposed as a fraudulent lying opinionist.

    Dr Summers put it well…
    https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2011/october/1318315099/anne-summers/bolt-factor

    He was too gutless to debate Professor Manne
    http://www.themonthly.com.au/blog/robert-manne/2011/10/24/1319413522/name-ten-journalism-andrew-bolt

  90. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 7:50 am

    From Mannes article in the Monthly

    That a journalist of his type is now a hero of what passes for Australian conservatism is a telling indication of what has happened to the political culture of this country over the past twenty years.

    Recalls to me this little exchange Ricky

    the ‘RESIGN, DICKHEAD’ banner is not a symptom of Australian culture so much as it is a result of a political landscape poisoned by the spiteful, ignorant rhetoric of the Andrew Bolts of our country.

    http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/tony-abbott-andrew-bolt-and-resign-dickhead,6296

    And the libs in parliament whining about a “negative” opposition. I wonder if they are aware how gobsmackingly hypocritical they look?

  91. egg permalink
    June 4, 2014 8:16 am

    Feminists turn their backs on Cred.

  92. Dr Doctor permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:06 am

    That article by Anne “You don’t have to call me Doctor” Summers seems quite.

    One of her criticisms of Bolt is that on his blog offensive comments sometimes get past the moderators. She goes on to concede, however, that “comments that are made on blogs or on Twitter are often quite startling for their crudeness”.

    Summers also advances the hypothesis that Bolt’s conversion to conservatism is not a real one, but is a result of his desire claim a place on the under-resourced ‘right’ of the public opinion battlefield, to become Australia’s Bill O’Reilly. Bolt declined to assist her with the article, so there is no first-hand support for her theory.

  93. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:09 am

    Australians have chosen who they would prefer to be Liberal leader instead of Tony Abbott. And that person is … drumroll … Someone Else.

    An Essential poll for “best leader of the Liberal party” has found that Australians would prefer Malcolm Turnbull (31 per cent).

    But otherwise, they like the idea of Someone Else (19 per cent), who narrowly defeated Tony Abbott (18 per cent).

    Someone Else defeated Joe Hockey, Julie Bishop, Christopher Pyne, Andrew Robb and Scott Morrison by large margins.

    Women voters (21 per cent) and Labor voters (28 per cent) were particularly besotted with the idea of Someone Else as PM.

    Chuckle …

  94. June 4, 2014 9:12 am

    “Someone Else defeated Joe Hockey, Julie Bishop, Christopher Pyne, Andrew Robb and Scott Morrison by large margins.”

    LOL…

  95. June 4, 2014 9:13 am

    Christopher Pyne would make a good leader of the Liberal Party..

  96. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:19 am

    Bolt declined to assist her with the article, so there is no first-hand support for her theory.

    That is assuming that bolt would be honest with her if she had. History is not kind on that score.

  97. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:24 am

    “When they wake up they download the PM’s website and spend hours looking for inconsistencies. They then spend the rest of the day looking for other conservative stuffups.
    If they find one they email each other on Twitter and then go to bed. When they wake up next day they repeat the process.””

    LOL Neil…………….that is quite funny and so very very true

    The Left is just one gigantic collection of nodding heads

  98. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:24 am

    people would prefer Someone Else over tony dumb dumb?

    Hard to fathom, isn’t it.

  99. June 4, 2014 9:25 am

    “They then spend the rest of the day looking for other conservative stuffups.”

    Actually you don’t have to look very far. The Liberal Party do a very good job of broadcasting their own stuff ups.

  100. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:30 am

    Hows this for a stuff up. After the treatment of Gillard from both the press and the libs, this is probably the most hypocritcal, least self-aware case of gutless bullies being exposed as chicken shit fuckwits I have yet seen

    The sexism of Palmer’s slur was magnified by the fact Ms Credlin has for years sought to have a child through IVF — a struggle Abbott’s chief of staff has spoken of publicly.

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/politicians-for-all-sides-unite-to-fight-dinosaur-clive-palmer-after-his-extraordinary-attack-on-the-pms-chief-of-staff-peta-credlin/story-fni0cx12-1226942199377

    Hang on, isn’t she just playing the gender card?

    FUCKWITS all!

  101. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:39 am

    Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said: “I hope Mr Palmer ­reflects on what he says. Of course he can debate policy but he shouldn’t (attack) staff.

    Crocodile fucking tears

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-05/coalition-taks-aim-at-gillards-communications-director-john-mct/4553386

  102. Card game permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:40 am

    “Hang on, isn’t she just playing the gender card?”

    How so?

  103. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:43 am

    How so?

    Funny, that’s what I said 😉

  104. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:50 am

    It is all more proof that Clive Palmer is a F**KWIT, of the worst kind. Originally from Melbourne, he moved to Queensland where his talents were more appreciated.

  105. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:51 am

    “”…..Hang on, isn’t she just playing the gender card?………””

    Best Women be kept silent in TomR’s bizarre World

    By the way TomR what happened to that promise to everyone at the Café that you would never post here again…………………you never got back to me on that.

    I do remember that …………………..Mmmmmmm………………..I wonder if that was another lie………………maybe I could enlighten you

  106. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:54 am

    “Clive Palmer is a F**KWIT”

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm…………………………..I sat next to him at a lunch a couple of years ago. He was very strange.

    Something very living on the edge of a financial cliff about him. Just look at all his failed deals and his rundown resort.

    I get the feeling he is not long for this Financial World.

  107. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:54 am

    It is all more proof that Clive Palmer is a F**KWIT, of the worst kind.

    I AGREE!

    maybe I could enlighten you

    Please do

  108. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:57 am

    On another note I’ve had 3 clients in the past 2 weeks sooooooooo pissed off about the reaction to the Budget that they have approached me to help them invest offshore. They just have no confidence in the attitude of the general populace and its addiction to Welfare.

    Let the Capital Outflow start as a trickle and sooner of later a waterfall will form.

    Not one enquiry in 3 years now 3 in 2 weeks

  109. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:58 am

    So you deny it do you……………?

  110. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:59 am

    So you deny it do you……………?

    Why would I?

    Is this the only Unicorn you have today?

  111. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:02 am

    OK………..just wanted to establish that your word is no better than that lying hypoCONdriac who ran the place.

  112. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:11 am

    Well, you’ll have to put up exactly what was said, you know, for “context” 😉

  113. egg permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:16 am

    ‘Let the Capital Outflow start as a trickle and sooner of later a waterfall will form.’

    Not to worry, the Chinese will fill the vacuum.

  114. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:19 am

    I have always believed that staffers are too powerful within our political system yet unaccountable to the public or the parliament. They make decisions and give orders on behalf of MP’s or the PM but do not answer to anyone, they cannot be forced by parliament to appear in an inquiry. The staffers have become an industry in itself and I think it is all about unaccountable power and a convenient scapegoat for the minister. When there is a scandal or something goes wrong, then the staffer can conveniently take the blame and ‘resign’ [to be quickly given another lucrative job], never having to answer for their actions.

    An example is the recent food rating website that was pulled down because a staffer [who owned the company that opposed the website] ordered the dept to pull it down, that is how much power they have. The minister should have been responsible for that fiasco and should have had to resign. The staffer can not be questioned by any parliamentary committee of enquiry.

    http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp0102/02RP19

    …There are regular questions raised and complaints made about ministerial staff, partly because of the considerable influence upon their ministers that these staff are believed to wield. The complaints generally go to one of three issues:
    the number of ministerial staff
    the regulation of ministerial staff, or
    the accountability of ministerial staff.

    They are said to and seen to:

    control access to ministers, and determine who has that access
    determine the flow of information which reaches ministers, particularly information flowing from departments and agencies
    control and regulate contact between ministers and other ministers, other members of the Parliament and departments and agencies
    make decisions on behalf of ministers
    give directions about government activities and actions, including directions to departments and agencies
    manage media perceptions and reporting.(14)
    Playing these many roles, it is easy to see them emerging as ‘influential actors at the summit of the core executive’.(15) But for how long have they been there?…

  115. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:19 am

    They just have no confidence in the attitude of the general populace and its addiction to Welfare.

    I wonder how they reacted to this?

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/youre-rich-enough-on-150000-a-year-says-wayne-swan/story-e6frevp9-1226054271328

  116. egg permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:21 am

    ‘for “context”

    * chuckle *

    If you could get me unbanned at the kaf, it would give me a chance to support Neil against the diatribe.

  117. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:25 am

    If you could get me unbanned at the kaf

    Why would I unleash a bullshitter like you on them. You still haven’t shown me your “context” from the other day.

  118. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:27 am

    Still not much comment still from the Feminista Left regarding Clive’s comments.

    Dare I say hypocrites…………………….?

    Or just a case of my Enemy’s Enemy is my Friend………….no matter what they say

    Even Bettina Arndt is pissed off with them

  119. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:30 am

    Only a fool would compare Credlin to John McTierney.

    McTierney was hyper active on Twitter and took part in the daily political contest even being interviewed on Sydney Radio on daily events

  120. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:30 am

    Still not much comment still from the Feminista Left

    Who is this this “Feminista Left” of which you speak?

  121. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:35 am

    Only a fool would compare Credlin to John McTierney.

    ROFL

  122. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:35 am

    “I wonder how they reacted to this?”

    Not sure what you’re getting at . I’m talking about small business people who don’t ned to leave their money in Australia.

    There are an increasing number of nations offering investment opps with no restriction on capital withdrawals.

    Its becoming easier to invest overseas

  123. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:37 am

    So when did Credlin last give an interview TomR ?

  124. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:38 am

    Its becoming easier to invest overseas

    When he said “open for business”, I didn’t think he meant “to leave” 😉

  125. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:38 am

    “Who is this this “Feminista Left” of which you speak?””

    Anne Summers would be a good start

  126. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:38 am

    I’m not too bothered about the credlin thing, I don’t think she would be either, she’s pretty tough and plays a hard game, she will also use this to try and get sympathy votes for the libs. She’s used the IVF sympathy/gender card herself to grab votes from women for tony abbott. I don’t think her or abbott have a leg to stand on when it comes to ‘personal politics’ they are past masters at it. It’s funny how clive is doing to the libs what they did to labor, while labor can stand aside and tut tut about it all.

    clive is wedging the coalition whichever way he can, reeling in the ‘hansonites’ those howard battlers who seem to hate and envy everything. Aren’t these the ones who are supposed to decide our elections? They frightened and threatened tony abbott enough to form a slush fund to send hanson to jail.

    Having said that, I don’t like what clive said and don’t quite understand why he’d go that route for attack. The misogyny vote? abbott’s manly men?

  127. egg permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:40 am

    ‘You still haven’t shown me your “context” from the other day.’

    I was arguing for Timorese to be a allowed into the country as seasonal guest workers and the misunderstanding arose over the tone in my voice.

    Under this arrangement its unlikely the Timorese would get less income than a grey nomad doing the same work.

  128. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:41 am

    So when did Credlin last give an interview TomR ?

    How is that relevant?
    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4455364.html
    And, let’s be clear, I don’t support kalives statement either, he’s a bumbling idiot, who occasionally bumbles in the right direction. I just like highlighting the hypocrisy of the media and libs in this

  129. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:41 am

    ” If you could get me unbanned at the kaf

    Why on earth would you want that? It’s a badge of honour to be banned, it is proof that you have an IQ higher than room temperature. They don’t ban easy opponents, only difficult ones.

  130. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:42 am

    “You still haven’t shown me your “context” from the other day.”

  131. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:47 am

    The Department of Health revealed in Senate Estimates the Medical Research Fund was a last-minute addition to the budget with policy work beginning in April, just weeks before the budget was delivered.

    Opposition health spokeswoman Catherine King says this is proof that the fund had

    “merely been established to distract from the $80 billion cuts to hospitals and schools and new taxes on doctor visits and medicines”.

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/sienna-cancer-diagnostics-and-benitec-attack-proposed-use-of-governments-20-billion-medical-research-fund/story-fn84fgcm-1226941785144#comments

    The Abbott government is coming under attack from all sides and particularly people with far more expertise than the “Productivity Commission” (what an oxymoron that is) …

    And Abbott is unpopular by his own behaviour and words … the difference between him and the dislike shown to Julia Gillard*, is that much of Gillard’s problem was confected and repeated day after day by the right wing jocks and pollies and supporters …

    Abbott has come under attack from all sides … because he and his Ministers are demonstrating incompetence … they have not thought out the consequences of their actions … in other words they DID NOT conduct a COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS …

    Here’s the CEO of Universities Australia – a body comprising all 39 unis …

    http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s4018219.htm

    If this budget goes through then our democracy does not work …

    *you choose to research I was not a fan

  132. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:48 am

    The Department of Health revealed in Senate Estimates the Medical Research Fund was a last-minute addition to the budget with policy work beginning in April, just weeks before the budget was delivered.

    Opposition health spokeswoman Catherine King says this is proof that the fund had

    “merely been established to distract from the $80 billion cuts to hospitals and schools and new taxes on doctor visits and medicines”.

  133. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:48 am

    Even Bettina Arndt is pissed off with them

    That’s not hard, since she’s basically become a support act for the patriarchy.

  134. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:49 am

    she’s pretty tough and plays a hard game

    Which is why it is so weird watching the previous “hard players” come out and start their crocodile tears now

  135. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:50 am

    ‘she’s pretty tough and plays a hard game’

    So was Gillard, and there’s no doubt that any reflection regarding her childbearing/family orientation was called ‘misogyny’ – long and loud.

  136. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:51 am

    is that much of Gillard’s problem was confected and repeated day after day by the right wing jocks and pollies and supporters …

    You’re starting to sound a bit like me these TB

    Careful 😉

  137. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:54 am

    Not one enquiry in 3 years now 3 in 2 weeks … no better than that lying hypoCONdriac who ran the place.

    Gees … struggling this morning, Wally, you’re beginning to sound like er, ahem, ur, what’s is name again?

  138. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:56 am

    “”Abbott has come under attack from all sides … because he and his Ministers are demonstrating incompetence …””

    Abbott has come under attack from all sides … because he and his Ministers are demonstrating financial restraint …

    Fixed it !

  139. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:56 am

    I’d like neil to come back here armed with the info and link to the claim he made that lefty’s want there to be a restriction of the population to 11 million people and that there should be people culling. I’ve asked him numerous times but he won’t deliver.

  140. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:58 am

    there’s no doubt that any reflection regarding her childbearing/family orientation was called ‘misogyny’

    After years of suffering from this specific form of “reflection”, it should be noted.

    It should also be noted that ALL sides of politics are united on this, whereas only one was when Gillard was the target.

  141. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:59 am

    There are an increasing number of nations offering investment opps with no restriction on capital withdrawals.

    Its becoming easier to invest overseas

    Thank you Mr Hockey. Thank you Mr Abbott …

    Nice to see you helping the poorer folk, Sir Walter …

  142. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:00 am

    It’s a badge of honour to be banned, it is proof that you have an IQ higher than room temperature. They don’t ban easy opponents, only difficult ones.

    Wot you say, Willis?

    I’m not banned …

  143. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:01 am

    financial restraint

    $20 Billion on thought bubble is financial restraint?

  144. egg permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:05 am

    context

    That’s why an avenue for seasonal guest workers should be encouraged. The Timorese are the most impoverished people in the world, surely we could reach out to them?

    Some here might say if agricultural guest workers can’t at least get the minimum wage then the fruit should rot. Likewise its far better for young unemployed Australians to lay around and get the dole rather than work on below minimum wages.

    Is this the consensus here?

  145. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:08 am

    So was Gillard, and there’s no doubt that any reflection regarding her childbearing/family orientation was called ‘misogyny’ – long and loud.

    Not quite the same if you compare what Palmer said (stupid analogy on his part) and personal insults from the Opposition benches at Gillard …

    And none of the confected angst here actually relates to the thrust of Palmer’s speech … the PPL favours unfairly women on high incomes …

    And its not a long stretch to imagine Credlin pushing the idea in chambers … so to speak …

    Another look over there brought to you by — (I’m outraged) Wally and (if it worked for Gillard) ToM …

    And its so easy to target Clive’s stupid comments than to say the PPL must go … ’cause its indefensible …

    Go Clivey!

  146. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:11 am

    Fixed it !

    You might be in for a rude shock soon, Wally … I get the feeling he is not long for this Financial World.

    Your fixes only work in one place … your mind 🙂

  147. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:13 am

    You’re starting to sound a bit like me these TB

    Just tellin’ it as I see it, TR, as I always have … I even agree with Wally and ToM occasionally … 🙂

  148. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:16 am

    “”Thank you Mr Hockey. Thank you Mr Abbott … “”

    Did you read my post?…………………….they support the Budget and are fed up with the whingers on $100K plus being denied Welfare

    Cant say I’m a big supporter of sending $ overseas…………………….the lack of control over your funds makes me nervous.

    OK for some and out of the ATO’s hand then

    I used to be optimistic about this joint but unless there is major reform the bad news 5 or 6 years down the track is going to shock quite a few. Whilst those that can will sit back saying…………. “We told you so ”

    ………………..with their money quite safe from the ATO in a foreign haven.

    Less taxpayers (its the demographic) means less tax lower pensions…………lower standards of care in hospitals, rougher roads and overcrowded schools.

    I don’t blame them (the Wealthy/ Even the not so Wealthy)………….

    Because you aint seen nothing yet

  149. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:16 am

    “I’ve asked him numerous times but he won’t deliver.”

    And its such a precise number 11 million …

  150. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:19 am

    “… the PPL favours unfairly women on high incomes … ”

    Its modelled on the Aust Public Service PPL……………………..I suppose if the Government wound that back you would therefore support crushing any industrial action by the Fed Public Service

  151. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:29 am

    It is instructive that the sisterhood is largely silent about Clive’s sexist comments. It shows clearly that their grievance-mongering is motivated by politics rather than any real concern about sexism.

  152. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:29 am

    So was Gillard, and there’s no doubt that any reflection regarding her childbearing/family orientation was called ‘misogyny’ – long and loud.

    yes, i recall the ‘deliberately barren’, can’t make policy re families because is childless, bitch, witch, showing her cleavage in parliament, big arse, partner is gay, small breasts big thighs and big red box, past boyfriends, earlobes & glasses, father died of shame etc

    i could probably come up with many more if I researched.

    yeah, credlin’s really copping it.

    clive is wrong to play the misogyny card, it’s as simple as that imo.

    It’s also rather hypocritical for the same people that encouraged an entire nation to take part in a sexist attack upon a woman who achieved the highest office in the land, to be now taking offence when one of their own gets a taste of it. Abbott now wants to be treated with dignity and given the respect of office when he went feral on gillard for years. Credlin didn’t appear to be doing too much to stop any of it either.

    seems any woman who gets to the centre of power in australia will cop the sexism, could it be aussie men?

  153. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:34 am

    “you aint seen nothing yet”

    But …. but.. everyone knows it is a zero-sum game. You just soak the rich and spray it about and everything will be beautiful. Do you not know how a socialist paradise is created?

  154. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:42 am

    “”Do you not know how a socialist paradise is created?””

    I’d have to ask TB

    But better be quick…………………………all the Robber Barons are heading OS and taking their businesses and money with them…LOL

    One of my clients owns 5 coffee shops…………………..he’s crunching the numbers on whether he should shut them down and open slowly in Hawaii, LA, Vegas, NY and Chicago. He’s 38 years old with a Canadian wife and big plans

  155. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:45 am

    Shit…………………….Doc Neeson of the Angels has died

  156. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:55 am

    there’s no doubt that any reflection regarding her childbearing/family orientation was called ‘misogyny’

    If a tree falls in a forest and no-one is there, does it still make a sound?

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/04/barnaby-joyce-backtracks-after-cracking-joke-about-peta-credlin

    Palmer was swiftly criticised for the comment. He later said he was unaware that Credlin and her husband had been undergoing IVF treatment.

    Is it still misogyny if you don’t know about her childbearing/family issues?

  157. June 4, 2014 12:03 pm

    Watching the wafer thin credibility of a pretend journalist defend a pretend PM both dissolving in their own hypocrisy is somewhat pleasurably ironic 🙂
    So I guess the answer to Clive’s legitimate question of “Who is actually running the government?” is a barrage of rhetorically ironic, “lay off the “Minister for Womans Affairs’ Velcro vagina … Has Abbott revoked rhino skin as the prohibited cloth of fiberal apparel? It seems to be a preferred fabric… I’m no fashion critic but I personally I think it is both inappropriate and in vomatously shallow bad taste.

  158. June 4, 2014 12:05 pm

    Bob is in Fine Form…. as always 🙂

    http://www.ellistabletalk.com/2014/06/04/a-note-on-the-liberals/

  159. June 4, 2014 12:10 pm

    LOve this 🙂 Bob is the antidolt

    http://www.ellistabletalk.com/2014/06/04/abbotts-end-45-one-day-to-go/

  160. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:11 pm

    Did you read my post?…………………….they support the Budget and are fed up with the whingers on $100K plus being denied Welfare

    I did … but I didn’t read into it – $100K plus etc etc … you added that just now …

    … it actually read … They just have no confidence in the attitude of the general populace and its addiction to Welfare. … not quite the same … I know I’m good but I can’t read minds on the blog yet … 🙂

    Just ’cause the government keeps adding bits here and there doesn’t mean that you should … it doesn’t work in the electorate and certainly won’t work here …

    … my reply was obviously a bit too subtle for you … Abbott and Hockey need to close the loophole … you give the reason yourself … Less taxpayers (its the demographic) means less tax lower pensions…………lower standards of care in hospitals, rougher roads and overcrowded schools.

    There are after all benefits to living in this country even if you aren’t on welfare!

    I always paid my taxes and got on with it … you’re clients just sound like a bunch of selfish pricks …

  161. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:13 pm

    they are a disparate bunch ricky that’s for sure, united by one thing only – to keep labor out of office. That’s how they started and it is why they exist now.

    Dear conservatives: yes, Malcolm Turnbull is one of us
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/03/dear-conservatives-yes-malcolm-turnbull-is-one-of-us

  162. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:18 pm

    “united by one thing only – to keep labor out of office”

    Given the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd debacle this is a worthy objective. The real problem the Libs have is in offering a better alternative. So far there is scant evidence of this.

  163. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:23 pm

    Its modelled on the Aust Public Service PPL……………………..I suppose if the Government wound that back you would therefore support crushing any industrial action by the Fed Public Service

    “Crushing” … I’d agree to make all privileges in the PS the same as the general populace …

    I’m not into crushing tho’ seems a bit Robber Baronish to me …

    One of my clients owns 5 coffee shops…………………..he’s crunching the numbers on whether he should shut them down and open slowly in Hawaii, LA, Vegas, NY and Chicago. He’s 38 years old with a Canadian wife and big plans

    I wish your client the best of luck in the Land of the Free (another oxymoron) where everything is profit oriented and the Robber Barons play no-where else in the world (although Russia is catching up)

    And his Canadian wife is important because? 38 is important because? Big plans is important because?

    Ahhh … impressed you with his squillions did he?

    I suppose if I’d kept working till now I could have had fifty coffee shops … 🙄

    I watched three swallows this morning on my walk, swooping and diving inches from the grass in the park … a magic sight and to me priceless …

    I hope the penny drops one day, Wally, I really do … that last coupla hundred K I banked couldn’t have bought this morning …

  164. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:25 pm

    “………..Abbott and Hockey need to close the loophole ………….”

    Fuck Me Dead………………..so now you advocate currency controls

  165. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:32 pm

    Given the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd debacle this is a worthy objective.

    yes, let’s replace with a much more refined turnbull/abbott/turnbull debacle and the added spectacle of deranged bolt!

    good entertainment, there should be more of it!

  166. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:35 pm

    “……..you’re clients just sound like a bunch of selfish pricks …”

    Actually no….you just think everyone owes you a living because apparently you paid some tax 25 years ago………they are just fed up with paying more and more taxes to keep 48% of households (like yours) on Welfare

    They are just fed up with the trade restrictions forced upon them by higher and higher wage costs, escalating power bills and Council and Water Rates caused by fat and lazy overpaid public servants creating massive layers of indirect extra costs which filter down into their business costs as Rates.

    They are about to shut up shops on Sunday and believe the way things are going Saturdays will be next.

    So they are crunching the numbers

    I doubt they are alone

    The same thing happened in Greece on a smaller scale and its happening in France right now

    If you keep hitting people they will leave the place they love or at least put keep their income offshore

  167. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:38 pm

    “Ahhh … impressed you with his squillions did he? “”

    Nah………………I’m worth more than him.

  168. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:41 pm

    Has Abbott revoked rhino skin as the prohibited cloth of fiberal apparel?

    The Emperor has no clothes … RP

  169. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:42 pm

    Fuck Me Dead………………..so now you advocate currency controls

    Yer burblin’ again, Wally …

  170. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:52 pm

    … you just think everyone owes you a living because apparently you paid some tax 25 years ago …

    Don’t be a silly wanker, Wally … I started paying taxes when I was 14 … and I’m still paying taxes and I have for over 50 years … you might delve into that thick skull of yours and recall that I am a SFR …

    The same thing happened in Greece on a smaller scale and its happening in France right now

    Long stretch, Walter, I been to Greece a couple of times now the last was just after the GFC …

    Wannabe Robber Barons make me chuckle … one thing they hate is competition … it raises the standards … most small business owners shouldn’t be (and I suspect you would know that) … if its too hot in the kitchen get out …

    You probably forgot that I was a Recognised Training Organisation … my biggest competitor TAFE … I just got on with it … and they ended up coming to me …

    Prattle about small business … they all struggle (I earnt $20K one year) but the whingers are usually the ones earning the bucks and then suddenly having to work for it …

    Tell your clients that without OTHER people they wouldn’t have a business … like I said … selfish pricks …

  171. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:58 pm

    “”…….Yer burblin’ again, Wally …””

    That’s what you are advocating

    “”Tell your clients that without OTHER people they wouldn’t have a business … like I said … selfish pricks …””

    LOL………………you Lefties hate it when its pointed out to you that there are plenty of “”Other People””. In this cases they live in other countries.

    Like I said if you keep hitting people with higher and higher taxes those that can will take remedial action and you’ll get a very bad outcome.

    Just wait 5 or so years when the shit really hits the fan if something is not done soon.

  172. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 12:59 pm

    They are just fed up with the trade restrictions forced upon them by higher and higher wage costs,

    how is that ?

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/wage-rises-hit-brakes-to-reach-lowest-recorded-rate-ever-20140521-38p2y.html#ixzz33dSpIT7R

    It’s that wages are growing at their slowest pace in the 18 years the Bureau of Statistics has been keeping records.
    The wage price index grew just 2.6 per cent in the year to March. Prices climbed 2.9 per cent. It means we’re going backwards.

  173. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 1:13 pm

    “”The wage price index grew just 2.6 per cent in the year to March. Prices climbed 2.9 per cent. It means we’re going backwards.””

    Not on hourly rates. Perhaps fixed non public service salaries.

    Even today there is a minimum wage case decision which will push up all other Awards yet again.

    Lefties like TB just hate the idea that Capital is actually more mobile than people.

    Well suck it up and get over it………………..Welcome to Reality in the TWENTY FIRST CENTURY

  174. June 4, 2014 1:13 pm

    the emperor has no cloths

    Nor substance or plumbs….. all piss and no steam… he recons he’s gonna show Obama who’s boss…he will come back stuttering , with a sore ass and jizzy chin … All Credlins strap on conditioning wont save him in the wilds of reality with cameras rolling in anticipation of the next hilarious gaff from the idiot who would be king 🙂

  175. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 4, 2014 1:18 pm

    I think it is unwise to comment on women’s fashion (eg rhino skin)…unless you’re an expert on women’s fashion…as I am.

  176. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 1:23 pm

    Ricky…………could you please switch back to plain English………………………You are starting to become as tough to decipher as 730 Teabagz and his penchant for % #### >>>>>

  177. egg permalink
    June 4, 2014 2:21 pm

    TR I now see where the confusion may have arisen, drifting from Timorese guest workers into the Green Army being paid below award wages.

    Still its conceivable that a platoon could be bussed to hot spots and save a crop, paid award wages and temporarily taken off the government teat.

  178. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 2:25 pm

  179. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 2:34 pm

    It is not the role of a political chief of staff to give interviews. I can’t think of another example of it ever happening. So for Credlin to do so was always going to create a political firestorm.

    The more this is looked at, the more the glaring hypocrisy and opportunism of the libs and media becomes apparent.

    TR I now see where the confusion may have arisen

    Are you so confused you are unable to say “oops, my bad”?

  180. June 4, 2014 2:44 pm

    BTW, for the benefit of the rest of Australia, the Victorian State Govt is in utter chaos…

    In case you hadn’t heard….

  181. Back at ya permalink
    June 4, 2014 2:44 pm

    “The more this is looked at, the more the glaring hypocrisy and opportunism of the libs and media becomes apparent.”

    Or, to put it another way, the more Gillard’s defenders remain silent on the Credlin matter, the more hypocritical they look.

  182. Big V permalink
    June 4, 2014 2:46 pm

    “the Victorian State Govt is in utter chaos…”

    So I understand.

  183. egg permalink
    June 4, 2014 2:53 pm

    ‘Are you so confused you are unable to say “oops, my bad”?’

    No. So what do you think of the idea that the Green Army could be used to prevent crops rotting?

  184. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 3:15 pm

    the more Gillard’s defenders remain silent on the Credlin matter, the more hypocritical they look.

    Did you read the links from earlier this morning? Thought not

    Labor leader Bill Shorten described the attack as “unwarranted” and “wrong”.

    Labor Deputy Leader Tanya Plibersek said: “Members of Parliament should not make personal attacks, especially on staff.”

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/tony-abbott-says-clive-palmer-doesnt-understand-parental-leave-policy-after-billionaire-dinosaurs-extraordinary-attack-on-the-pms-chief-of-staff-peta-credlin/story-fni0cx12-1226942199377

    or the benefit of the rest of Australia

    Why do Australians care what happens in victoria.

    So what do you think of anything you write? It’s all bullshit.

  185. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 3:27 pm

    Lefties like TB just hate the idea that Capital is actually more mobile than people.

    Run out of reason … play the man not the ball … I ran my own business for 16 years like all lefties do … GMAFB!

    Back to this …

    Did you read my post?…………………….they support the Budget and are fed up with the whingers on $100K plus being denied Welfare

    I’m sick of the whingers earning $100K too … and the people who get a tax break with negative gearing (for anything!) and family trusts … all welfare for the rich and wannabe famous …

    If the LIBERAL government was serious they would have simply means tested or deemed (they deem all my capital investments) capital and/or income … (but that probably disappears into the family trust) …

    What the LIBERAL government did was to impress an ideological hatred of the poor, aged and needy … cruel insensitive and actually affecting the economy … clever – not!

    As I said when this budget came down – it will not affect me much (some loss in concessions that we can/will cover) but I know a few people who are worried sick … and its not passed yet …

  186. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 3:33 pm

    all welfare for the rich and wannabe famous …

    You mean like this TB?

    More than a few eyebrows were raised when young ballerinas emerged as rare winners on budget night, especially after the federal Treasurer declared, ”The age of entitlement is over.”
    Tucked away in the budget papers was a $1 million grant for the Australian Ballet School, to help with its purchase of a new boarding residence. Armed with that taxpayer money, the school has spent more than $4.7 million on a mansion

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/budget-help-for-ballet-australian-ballet-schools-new-47m-mansion-20140603-39h29.html#ixzz33e5vwuhi

  187. Robo Barren permalink
    June 4, 2014 3:40 pm

    “an ideological hatred”

    So say you.

  188. June 4, 2014 3:44 pm

    Ricky…………could you please switch back to plain English

    Cmon wally get with the program, I know its hard to understand because its not a fibby number on a balance sheet but its the language of actual dissent as opposed to Dolts faux cant believe its not flubber. In plain idiot speak (the dialect of the contemporary fiberal) Mr Credlinbility dispenses The Minister for Vaginal affairs batteries. 🙂

    At the presser this morning Abbott was all pumped up to play hardball with Obarma and silence the leader of the western world on climate change with his hardball ideology and awesome diplomatic skills…. call me cynical but the terms “bitch slap” “swashed plumbs” comes to mind.

  189. Preserve European Culture permalink
    June 4, 2014 3:47 pm

    I’m not big on “arts” funding. The market for ballet tickets probably wouldn’t be large enough to support that artform in its own right. Do we need ballet companies, or are they just manifestations of cultural cringe?

  190. Smack My Bitch Up permalink
    June 4, 2014 3:48 pm

    😆 at Ricky.

  191. Con Crisis permalink
    June 4, 2014 3:54 pm

    “another Fiberal Premier is about to beat the dust”

    Not necessarily. Daniel Andrews is getting ahead of himself.

  192. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:03 pm

    “”………..I’m not big on “arts” funding……………””

    Me too……………….scrap all of it………….just another handout to those already able to afford tickets.

    Keep the Opera House Sails in tact (great during the Vivid festival) and gut the rest of it for a quayside shopping mall selling stuffed koalas and akubras.

    But keep the Opera Bar of course

  193. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:10 pm

    Keep the Opera House Sails in tact

    How did they get here in first place again?

    Yea, scrap arts funding, cos the best art is always created by popularity, not creativity.

  194. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:16 pm

    62 End all public subsidies to sport and the arts

    http://ipa.org.au/publications/2080/be-like-gough-75-radical-ideas-to-transform-australia

    I wonder how many from the ipa attend this particular school?

  195. June 4, 2014 4:18 pm

    Yep all bullshit artist are not big on any art bigger than bullshit….

    Tom Don’t waist your words … Account ants need to put a value on everything, its the only game they know..

  196. The Yartz permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:19 pm

    Do we trust government to decide which art is worthwhile, or should the arts consumer decide, and vote with their wallet?

    (The best art finds its own market, eventually.)

  197. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:22 pm

    The best art finds its own market, eventually.

    Vinnie V G will be relieved to hear that 😉

  198. After The fact permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:24 pm

    That’s why I said “eventually”. 🙂

  199. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:26 pm

    I didn’t miss it, just wanted to highlight it is all.

    It depends if you like people in abject poverty or not I guess

  200. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:29 pm

    “It depends if you like people in abject poverty or not I guess”

    It gives them motivation to do something of value actually.

    Nothing like a rumbling stomach and the cold bite of winter to get the energy levels up.

  201. Bad Investment permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:31 pm

    “It depends if you like people in abject poverty or not I guess”

    Okay, so anyone who claims to be an artist, even if nobody is interested in buying his/her work, should be supported by the taxpayer – just in case their art finds a market after their death?

  202. Would I Spy On You? permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:36 pm

    The Australian Prime Minister is about to land in Indonesia. We should find out just how damaged our relations are with that country.

  203. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:38 pm

    It gives them motivation to do something of value actually.

    Vinnie V G will be relieved to hear that 😉

    so anyone who claims to be an artist…….should be supported by the taxpayer

    Why does it have to be one extreme or nothing in an argument?

    http://www.australiacouncil.gov.au/grants/case-studies

  204. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:39 pm

    The Australian Prime Minister is about to land in Indonesia.

    I wonder if he will be towed back 😯

  205. Extreme Rhetoric permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:42 pm

    “Why does it have to be one extreme or nothing in an argument?”

    Why does it have to be “abject poverty or not”?

  206. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:52 pm

    Why does it have to be “abject poverty or not”?
    “That’s why I said “eventually”
    😉

  207. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 4:54 pm

    Do we trust government to decide which art is worthwhile, or should the arts consumer decide, and vote with their wallet?

    We should fund the arts so that the arts consumer can find and reward the artist before he dies. look at it through your own narrow viewpoint, it’s like business getting a govt. subsidy grant or tax cut and then being told they can’t access any profits until the company ceases to exist.

  208. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 5:03 pm

    Bob Hawke and John Howard agree that old-school politicians were better at actually getting stuff done:
    http://www.news.com.au/national/bob-hawke-and-john-howard-agree-that-oldschool-politicians-were-better-at-actually-getting-stuff-done/story-fncynjr2-1226943233610

  209. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 5:22 pm

    Do we need ballet companies, or are they just manifestations of cultural cringe?

    A lot pensioners won’t be going … that’s for sure …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It gives them motivation to do something of value actually.

    Nothing like a rumbling stomach and the cold bite of winter to get the energy levels up.

    More fkn amateur psychology … as if you would know what a rumbling stomach was unless you needed an antacid … and you’d only know what it tastes like from the ice in yer drink …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    We should find out just how damaged our relations are with that country.

    Don’t hold yer breathe it too two months for us to find out that two Tamil asylum seekers had been seriously burnt

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Do we trust government to decide which art is worthwhile, …

    Isn’t the real question – do we trust the government to do anything?

    Sometimes you have got to call a space a BLOODY SHOVEL.

    D’ya think he was hinting at a “wasted space”?

  210. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 5:32 pm

    And the bullshit keeps on being shovelled away …

    NOT long ago there was a widely held view that Australia was suffering a productivity crisis.

    It was wrong then, and the latest national accounts confirm it’s still wrong.

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/gdp-data-confirm-no-productivity-crisis/story-e6frfkur-1226943246546

  211. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 5:37 pm

    In case some here don’t read ALL the link above …

    They show GDP per hour worked rose by 2.1 per cent in the past year, easily beating the 1.6 per cent long-run average.

    In the past three years, growth in this measure of productivity grew by 8.0 per cent.

    That was the fastest burst of productivity growth since the three years that ended with the “tech wreck” share price crash 14 years ago.

    The mining sector’s switch to the production phase has helped.

    So how will Tony and Joe and Wally deal with this? And the wage increase figures mentioned above …

    And then you get to the 420% pay rise that CEO’s have had … and then there is this …

    http://www.fairwork.gov.au/Media-centre/Latest-News/2013/06/Pages/20130603-minimum-wage-increase

    Someone can’t do their numbers … hey, Joe?

  212. Walrus permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:05 pm

    “”The mining sector’s switch to the production phase has helped.””

    Yes………..its capital equipment driven

  213. egg permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:21 pm

    Artists expect to struggle, live in a garret with grand views and dip into their credit card to eat.

    I’ve just been picked up by a gallery and hopefully my whimsical work will get traction and pull me out of relative abject poverty.

  214. June 4, 2014 6:28 pm

    It is instructive that the brotherhood is largely silent about Tony’s inappropriate comments regarding D-Day. It shows clearly that their grievance-mongering is motivated by politics rather than any real concern about The Diggerz.

    * To his credit, Neil did acknowledge the stupidity of Abbott’s attempted jingosturbation…

  215. June 4, 2014 6:29 pm

    “I’ve just been picked up by a gallery and hopefully my whimsical work will get traction and pull me out of relative abject poverty.”

    WTF? I never knew you were a struggling artist egg. Suddenly you have risen in my estimations… 🙂

    Tell us more…

  216. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:31 pm

    I just received this … would this be worth going to?

    It seems pretty good value …

    An exclusive invitation…

    The President, The Honourable Justice David Thomas,

    and the Council of

    The Royal National Agricultural & Industrial Association of Queensland

    request your company at the

    Royal Queensland Wine Awards Dinner 2014

    Date: Tuesday 8 July 2014

    Time: 6:30pm for 7:00pm

    Dress: Black Tie

    Location:
    Royal International Convention Centre,
    Hall B, Brisbane Showgrounds,
    600 Gregory Terrace,
    Bowen Hills, Queensland 4006

    Purchase your ticket before Monday 30th June 2014 via the Royal Queensland Food & Wine Show website.

    Single ticket: $175+GST
    Table of ten: $1750+GST and includes 10 VIP after event acess tickets.

    For more information contact us on 07 3253 3992 or visit the Royal Queensland Food & Wine Show website.

  217. Seeking Instruction permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:31 pm

    “Tony’s inappropriate comments regarding D-Day”

    What inappropriate comments did Abbott make about D-Day?

  218. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:32 pm

    Yes………..its capital equipment driven

    Ahh .. its the machines that are productive not the people …

    Your are amu$ing, Wally …

  219. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:34 pm

    I’ve just been picked up by a gallery and hopefully my whimsical work will get traction and pull me out of relative abject poverty.

    I hope so, egg … but I must warn you … your “whimsy” (what a lovely alternative to BS) has made absolutely no traction here …

  220. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:35 pm

    Tell us more…

    Puleese … sreb! 😆

  221. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:41 pm

    What inappropriate comments did Abbott make about D-Day?

    What a pain … “his inappropriate USE of D-Day to play politics at the expense of people who actually worked hard for a living – and died” …

    … you insensitive moron or is it idiot or is it imbecile …

    You know… the people that made it possible for you to make inane comments about their sacrifice …

  222. Quote Fail permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:41 pm

    So nothing, then.

  223. June 4, 2014 6:42 pm

    That whole paragraph could be manipulated with many different individuals, issues & words.
    I could substitute ‘X’ for sisterhood &demonstrate the inanity of making such claims as this…

    “It is instructive that the sisterhood is largely silent about Clive’s sexist comments. It shows clearly that their grievance-mongering is motivated by politics rather than any real concern about sexism.”

    Partisan confirmation/denial/ignore bias is hardly the exclusive domain of one side of politics…

    It’s as dumb as incessantly screeching…”What Is It With The Left And Violence”…like the Right doesn’t do violence. 🙄

  224. June 4, 2014 6:43 pm

    Comprehension Fail…so no even keel, then…

  225. Insensitive Moron permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:45 pm

    “… you insensitive moron or is it idiot or is it imbecile …
    You know… the people that made it possible for you to make inane comments about their sacrifice …”

    Oh, I see. He didn’t actually make inappropriate comments about D-Day, as toiletboss asserted. He made comments about other matters in a press release that included information about a D-Day commemoration. That’s about it, isn’t it?

  226. June 4, 2014 6:46 pm

    Comprehension fail Insensitive Moron.

  227. June 4, 2014 6:46 pm

    Yes, TB, ‘USE’ may have satisfied the semantic ghoul.

    Thing is, I know he got my point anyway. He’s just being obdurate.

  228. Insensitive Moron permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:49 pm

    When words are all we’ve got, words matter.

  229. June 4, 2014 6:49 pm

    Deliberate comprehension fail. Semantic warrior.

    toiletboss was making the initial comment to illustrate the absurdity of the rearranged quote regarding The Sisterhood.

  230. June 4, 2014 6:50 pm

    I don’t believe that you don’t understand what I mean. You are playing word games.

    Yes, words matter, but, like statistics, they can be bent into many inferences…

  231. Insensitive Moron permalink
    June 4, 2014 6:56 pm

    (I must admit, I didn’t recognise your comment as a jibe at Walrus’s(?) “Sisterhood” comment. But I stand by my point about Abbott’s press release.)

  232. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 7:01 pm

    That’s about it, isn’t it?

    NO …

    When words are all we’ve got, words matter.

    It sounds like that’s all you think you have … but I’ve got some really, really bad news, ToSY …

    Your words certainly don’t matter … and you too – like Abbott – are playing with words at the expense of ADF personnel …

    Either the height of ignorance, or insensitivity … or a smattering of both …

    Some of us had relatives involved in the re-taking* of France and Belgium in WWII …

    *Not Normandy …

  233. June 4, 2014 7:01 pm

    Oh Fucking tell me more I dare you 🙄

  234. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 7:03 pm

    I must admit, I didn’t recognise your comment as a jibe at Walrus’s(?)

    Not quite a – I was wrong – sorry … but a first … “I admit …”

  235. June 4, 2014 7:06 pm

    It was SB’s comment. For the record…

  236. World War Won permalink
    June 4, 2014 7:07 pm

    “Some of us had relatives involved in the re-taking* of France and Belgium in WWII …”

    Yes, we do. And some of us also had relatives that fought in France in WWI. But don’t let that stop you claiming the military high ground.

  237. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 7:10 pm

    What inappropriate comments did Abbott make about D-Day?

    It’s probably easier to ask what appropriate comment did he make tosy

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23AbbottsDDay&src=hash

    He made comments about other matters in a press release that included information about a D-Day commemoration. That’s about it, isn’t it?

    You might have missed the bit that this was originally a specific D-day commemoration message, abrupty and deceptively changed to imply it was nothing of hte sort. Unfortunately, the libs seem to forget, as nil pointed out, nasty “lefties” are downloading every day. Now we know why, so tony dumb dumb can’t get away with any more bullshit.

  238. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 7:12 pm

    playing with words at the expense of ADF personnel …

    As a famous idiot once said, “shit happens” © tonydumdum

  239. Word Play permalink
    June 4, 2014 7:15 pm

    “at the expense of ADF personnel”

    Also bullshit.

  240. Tom R permalink
    June 4, 2014 7:21 pm
  241. egg permalink
    June 4, 2014 7:32 pm

    ‘Tell us more…’

    Its romantic, bucolic and a very satisfying existence. There are some really exciting technical artists in our crowd, with more traditional works, but I’ve got them talking with my Martian landscapes and hubots.

  242. June 4, 2014 7:32 pm

    The minister for menstruation is apparently keen on sharing intelligence with the Americans, this will inevitably put us in debt as he’s a little flush in that regard. The Honorable Vagina for assures us that it will save us all from Jihad and Boat people… quite the statesman is our Liberal Labia

  243. June 4, 2014 7:37 pm

    Take your medication Egg you’re delusional.. bullshit is not art.

  244. June 4, 2014 7:50 pm

    Sarah Ferguson trying to ply an apology out of Clive for all this shit he didn’t say and failing miserably… Clive is talking the talk unlike the minister for menopause.

  245. BSA permalink
    June 4, 2014 7:52 pm

    “bullshit is not art”

    It could be.

  246. June 4, 2014 7:57 pm

    “my Martian landscapes and hubots.”

    TAFE funded…?

  247. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 8:00 pm

    But don’t let that stop you claiming the military high ground.

    Well, only because you claimed the low ground (good military strategy to claim the high ground BTW) … and the relative was my father … both my grandfathers served in WWI … one was gassed … I lost two mates in another stupid war … so yeah, I’ll always claim the high ground under those circumstances …

    “at the expense of ADF personnel”

    Also bullshit.

    I had no idea just how fkn insensitive, disrespectful, self-centred, arrogant and stupid you could be, ToSY … how much cred would Abbott have if he was on Youtube spouting about “open for business” … without D-DAY scratched all over the title … (later removed because someone figured out the gaffe) … the prick rides on shirt-tails …

    Watch Gruen for some edification on marketing and what is gross …

    Abbott’s crass attempt at marketing (probably with advice from Credilin) “used” the men who fought at D-Day for political purpose … look at me, look at me …

    I thought you advocated “small government” …

    FYI, I’d popped back in to say that I had said my piece and was ready to move on … pity you chose to continue with your stupidity …

  248. insensitive, disrespectful, self-centred, arrogant and stupid permalink
    June 4, 2014 8:11 pm

    “I had no idea just how fkn insensitive, disrespectful, self-centred, arrogant and stupid you could be, ToSY”

    FYI, and I only bring this up because you use it as some kind of debating point, my mother’s father fought in WWI. And my father did national service (since you also constantly bring that up). Me, I’m too young to have done either. So I guess you win. Or something.

  249. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 8:27 pm

    Not a competition … ’tis called good manners and respect …

  250. R.E.S.P.E.C.T. permalink
    June 4, 2014 8:33 pm

    “’tis called good manners and respect …”

    Which I know nothing about, since I’m “insensitive, disrespectful, self-centred, arrogant and stupid”.

  251. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 8:37 pm

    This government fiddles with anything and everything … back to the colonial age …

    CONFUSION over what to call Burma, or Myanmar, depending on who and where you are, seems to have surfaced once again.

    For decades, Australia’s foreign service referred to the Southeast Asian nation as Burma, but after democratic reforms, the previous Labor government in 2012 changed all official references to the Union of Myanmar.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/confusion-remains-about-burma-name-change/story-e6frfku9-1226943456675

    The name ‘Burma’ derives from the ethnic Burman (or Bamar) majority and, following local custom, was adopted by the British colonialists in the 19th century. Yet the more formal indigenous name ‘Myanmar’ has been used for titles, in literature and on official documents for centuries. The English language version of the 1947 constitution, prepared the year before the country regained its independence, referred to the ‘Union of Burma’, while the Burmese language version used the name ‘Myanmar’.

    http://www.lowyinterpreter.org/post/2013/11/27/Australia-and-the-BurmaMyanmar-name.aspx

  252. June 4, 2014 8:41 pm

    Pisschrist…now that is art!

  253. Mo Jo permalink
    June 4, 2014 8:43 pm

    “Pisschrist…now that is art!”

    I think Pissmohammed would be controversial art.

  254. June 4, 2014 8:49 pm

    Haha, yes. I’d support that too.

    Are you, perchance, inferring that pisschrist didn’t unsettle a few jesusfreaks? Granted, their overreactions are much more subdued…but, bless em, that’s because they’re enlightened…ie. they realise that their nonsense isn’t logically defensible & that defending the indefensible with violence just further soils the brand.
    The radical elements of Islam haven’t quite spent enough time ‘maturing’ to arrive at that conclusion yet.

    I’m all for religion baiting. It’s nothing, if not a great target for ridicule.

    Please, feel free to mock my unbelief; knowing I’ll be deeply wounded by it.

  255. June 4, 2014 8:51 pm

    A lot of critics of atheists seem to imagine that they somehow only criticise Christianity. That’s just ludicrous. A load of crap is a load of crap, no matter how you change the names, dates or claims of supernatural wizardry.

  256. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 8:52 pm

    We brought back a painting very similar to this from Thailand (from this centre) … and watched five elephants ALL paint different images …

    http://www.eugenegoesthailand.com/?p=605

  257. Is Lam permalink
    June 4, 2014 8:54 pm

    “The radical elements of Islam haven’t quite spent enough time ‘maturing’ to arrive at that conclusion yet.

    Probably the reason that “edgy” artists attack Christianity. They haven’t quite got the balls to attack Islam,

  258. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 8:54 pm

    That’s just ludicrous. A load of crap is a load of crap …

    Second that … its the hypocrisy of words compared to actions of organised religions that always dumps the BS … and demonstrates the “humanness” of “belief” in the supernatural …

  259. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2014 8:55 pm

    They haven’t quite got the balls to attack Islam,

    Or fear they may lose them …

  260. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:02 pm

    “Which I know nothing about, since I’m “insensitive, disrespectful, self-centred, arrogant and stupid”.”

    Tony

    You need to be sent to a reeducation camp where the leftoids can tell you what is right or wrong.

    AS you know leftoids are good at building detention centers because that is all they did from 2008-2013.

    You/We need to sit down and let TB lecture us from his high ground of moral superiority.

    Leftoids believe they are more moral than anyone else.

  261. June 4, 2014 9:02 pm

    ” They haven’t quite got the balls to attack Islam,”

    Self preservation is a fairly base instinct, common to all of us.

    That doesn’t change the fact that mocking Christianity is hilarious & warranted. I see the deflection towards Islam as the ultimate ‘Look Over There’…usually from those who don’t enjoy scrutiny of their own questionable beliefs. It’s like they think that “But we aren’t as bad as them !!! ” is a free pass.

  262. June 4, 2014 9:03 pm

    Oh look! Cyclops in da house!

  263. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:03 pm

    My father’s father was in france from 1916 to 1919, collecting trench fever, rheumatic fever and rheumatism along the way. Looking at the records I can see he went first to england, taken to France, back to england when sick, and then returned to france [the ‘field’].

    I reckon they suffered on our behalf and we owe a great debt of gratitude and that they would bitterly resent the pollies of today looking for reflected glory.

  264. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:17 pm

    Re – Government funding of artists.

    I’ve posted previously that the only artists I think deserve government support are indigenous ones. The rest only mimic European art.

    Anecdote 1.

    I have a reasonably close acquaintance that is an outstanding painter. His work is displayed in many public galleries and institutions around the country. He is sensationally talented.

    He chooses not to make any money out of his talent. His lifestyle choice is to get government grants to have exhibitions and study residences overseas. He is the type of artist that has the severe cultural cringe – “it means nothing to be successful in Australia, you have to be successful in Paris or London or New York”

    So the taxpayer provides the support for his lifestyle choice. He spends much his time producing work for display, and writing applications for government grants.

    A most talented artist, quite capable of supporting himself with his art, but is encouraged into a quite inefficient, leeching lifestyle by the existence of easy taxpayer money.

    Anecdote 2.

    I was involved with an indigenous organisation, which had the objective of supporting aboriginal cultural and artistic endeavours. It was a genuine eye opener and learning experience for me.

    When I look at the cash being splashed around to the white/European artistic community, then observe how indigenous organizations are so starved of funds, I’ve decided that the government has its priorities all wrong.

    Indigenous art needs far more public support, the support leads to quantifiable public benefits. Indigenous art provides a path out of dispossession beyond being a footballer or welfare recipient. It preserves a heritage that is uniquely Australian.

    So I’m in favour of ending all public funding of art, and direct all of the funds to support of indigenous culture.

  265. Try It permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:19 pm

    “I see the deflection towards Islam as the ultimate ‘Look Over There’…usually from those who don’t enjoy scrutiny of their own questionable beliefs.”

    You’re probably right, So why don’t you go over to, say,Muslim Village, and discuss Pissmohammed? I’m sure you’ll be welcomed in the spirit in which your multi-religious criticism is meant.

  266. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:23 pm

    A lot of critics of atheists seem to imagine that they somehow only criticise Christianity. That’s just ludicrous. A load of crap is a load of crap, no matter how you change the names, dates or claims of supernatural wizardry.

    That’s right toilet, they don’t get that all religion is man made rubbish, no matter which brand of misery is being peddled from cradle to grave. None is acceptable.

  267. Piss Off permalink
    June 4, 2014 9:52 pm

    Pisschrist heroes are not quite so brave when asked to spruik Pissmohammed in certain circles.

    Understandably so.

  268. June 4, 2014 10:18 pm

    Seems like you had the initial idea…”I think Pissmohammed would be controversial art.”…maybe pissmohammed ‘heroes’ would like to go antagonise MuslimVillage?

    Not sure that making art of any kind is ‘heroic’ by nature.

    What would you have me do? Go to one of their forum pages & mention…”Say, I’ve been referred here to propose a great idea for a pissmohammed exhibition. Now, in fairness, it wasn’t my idea, but I think it’s no different to pisschrist, as far as irreverence goes. I think the person who sent me here to run this by you all expects you to hunt me down, like I’m a poor man’s Salman Rushdie or something, but I’d prefer to give you the chance to retort with words & display your moderate tendencies; rather than behaving like the stereotypes this person seems to imagine you to be. Cheers. Please leave constructive comments regarding pissmohammed”…?

    Seems a bit pointless. Who knows, maybe they’d surprise us with their considered, moderate responses? If not, wouldn’t it be a bit like stirring up a hungry Rottweiler from the other side of a fence & then getting all incredulous when it lost its shit at me?

    I think it was Dawkins or someone who said something like…”We do not respect you, we are afraid of you”…with regard to radical Islam. Seems fair to me, although I’m in no proximity to radical Islam so I certainly have no need to fear it.
    To pretend that religious criticism is only ever directed at Christianity is patently false. It’s the refuge of Steynian apologia.

  269. June 4, 2014 10:20 pm

    If someone hasn’t already, they should do a shitchrist.

  270. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:25 pm

    “Oh look! Cyclops in da house!”

    That brings back memories.

    I used to say that Tim Dunlop only banned me once from posting a comment. That was something about Workchoices which he did not want me to say.

    But your comment reminds me about another comment that was banned. I called Tim Cyclops and he did not post that comment.

    Lefties do appear to be very sensitive.

  271. egg permalink
    June 4, 2014 10:47 pm

    ‘TAFE funded…?’

    No, most of us have part time work to survive.

  272. June 4, 2014 10:57 pm

    No Squeal every blog needs a fuckwit and Reb has designated you as the go to idiot… its pretty much universally accepted in Trash that no matter what the subject you will post off topic, with the standard inane predictable stupidity using the term Leftie yet having absolutely no idea what it actually means other than someone who is highly attuned to disagreement with your fucktard idiocy….You in fact personify the blind turd peanut hipnotised by Dolt hatred

  273. egg permalink
    June 4, 2014 11:03 pm

    ‘I’ve posted previously that the only artists I think deserve government support are indigenous ones. The rest only mimic European art.’

    ToM I think you’ll find that is racist. Recently I did a collection using the European pointilist (sic) style and was told I had to stop because of the similarity to dots. This is political correctness gone mad, but I see their point.

  274. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 8:05 am

    That’s right toilet, they don’t get that all religion is man made rubbish, no matter which brand of misery is being peddled from cradle to grave. None is acceptable.

    rubbish is too nice a word kl, especially when pollies get hold of it to push their own agendas. All for the Greater Good Of Dog

    It brings upon us more
    A famine, death and war
    You know religion has
    A lot to answer for

    Please tell me now what life is
    Please tell me now what love is
    Well, tell me now what war is
    Again, tell me what life is

    (I particularly like Bruce’s look near the end. “Tell me WHY?”)

  275. June 5, 2014 9:14 am

    This interview is empirical evidentuary proof of just how pathetically inept these opinionists are.
    Whipping up a frenzy of lies based on the proliferation of egocentric agenda laden vindictive self promotion.
    http://www.2gb.com/article/alan-jones-andrew-bolt-4

  276. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 9:22 am

    Whipping up a frenzy of lies based on the proliferation of egocentric agenda laden vindictive self promotion.

    Just another day in the office really 😉

  277. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 9:28 am

    Mind you, bolts latest is bizarre. The only thing we know about it for sure, is that it is credlins wish. But the reasoning is opaque. She is a very capable player, so the reasoning must be there?

  278. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 5, 2014 9:28 am

    “It’s as dumb as incessantly screeching…”What Is It With The Left And Violence”…like the Right doesn’t do violence.”

    It was a perfectly apt comment in the light of the recent tendency of leftist protesters to use violence to shut down people saying stuff they don’t like. That is merely an extension of the leftist hatred of free speech.

    The same would apply to non-leftitsts adopting the same tactics. But I can’t think of any recent examples. The best the whining leftists can come up with is a nasty sign calling Juliar a witch. Strangely, (or not) the people who complained loudest about that have said little about Bronwyn Bishop being called a witch.

    Hypocrisy is always worth calling out. It exposes the stupidity of those strutting their faux outrage.

    Similarly those outraged by Abbott’s lies often were the same people excusing Gillard’s lie. And vice versa.

    The ultimate hypocrisy was Gillard, in the very act of defending her misogynist speaker, screeching “misogyny” at Abbott. Even more ridiculous was the feminazi fellow-travelling editor of the Macquarie Dictionary calling for a new definition of “misogynist”, attempting to make Gillard look slightly less stupid. No wonder leftists are held in such contempt. Everything is a poltical point-scoring opportunity to them.

  279. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 9:39 am

    Similarly those outraged by Abbott’s lies often were the same people excusing Gillard’s lie.

    I like the singular and plural there, well done sb 😉

    The ultimate hypocrisy was Gillard, in the very act of defending her misogynist speaker, screeching “misogyny” at Abbott.

    funny, in light if the hypocrisy you are mentioning, as it was the hypocrisy of such an obvious misogynist trying to bring down someone else for the same thing that Gillard tried to highlight, though the meeja managed to miss that entirely, as you have done.

    editor of the Macquarie Dictionary calling for a new definition of “misogynist”

    Try not to re-write history too much sb. all they did was update theirs to catch up with all the others. They recognised their terminology was outdated, just hadn’t changed it yet. Macquarie Dictionary did no “calling for a new definition”. They fell in line with what other dictionaries had done years before.

    I also note hockey is not a fan of free speech when it isn’t favourable to him, neither was tonydumdum when the ABC ran their story on allegations about army personnel recently

  280. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:03 am

    It’s great to see Turnbull have a real crack at Alan Jones. What turds like Jones don’t understand, is that not everyone feels inclined to brown nose to him.

    What a revolting little c**t he really is. It’s a Sydney thing, he’d never get away with all the self-serving bulls**t in Melbourne.
    —————————
    I find the misogyny definition quite remarkable, I’d not previously heard “misogynist” being used as a term to describe old fashioned views/values.

  281. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:03 am

    Richard Dawkins, Bill Maher, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris have, to their credit, frequently attacked islam.

    On the other hand the Australian press (with the exception of the Courier Mail) could not bring itself to publish the Mohammad cartoons at the height of the controversy. The same in Canada where the one magazine that did publish the cartoons was taken to court by the victim pimps at the local human rights tribunal. Yale Universlty press published a book on the cartoons, The Cartoons that Shook the World but omitted the cartoons themselves because it caved in to threats of violence.

    Many critics of Islam live their lives under police protection precisely because of the vile religious beliefs of those who seek to murder them. Hence the unwillingness of “transgressive” artists to transgress the biggest threat to free speech.

    Here is Christopher Hitchens taking down an utter fuckwit:

    And here is Bill Maher doing the same:

  282. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:05 am

    I’d not previously heard “misogynist” being used as a term to describe old fashioned views/values.

    Well that settles it then!

  283. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:12 am

    No, it indicates that is simply dumb to suggest that common usage has changed “misogynist” to mean someone with old fashioned values.

    I’m sure most grandfathers with rejoice at the fact that common usage means they’re now misogynists.

  284. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:13 am

    “all they did was update theirs to catch up with all the others.”

    The timing was a tad suspicious – the day after Gillard beclowned herself. And the fact that Gillard is an ignoramus and doesn’t know what misogyny means is not a reason for changing the meaning of words. That utter fuckwit has no right to dumb down the language.

    The singular/plural thing was deliberate. If anything Abbott is more egregious because he campaigned so hard on Gillard’s broken promise and then made promises he must have known he would not keep. There is no way he could keep Labor’s spending commitments, add some of his own and still improve the budget situation. OTOH Gillard was backed into a corner by the Greens after the election. But she still chose to give into them rather than keep her promise.

  285. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:20 am

    If anything Abbott is more egregious because he campaigned so hard on Gillard’s broken promise and then made promises he must have known he would not keep.

    Precisely.

    There is no way he could keep Labor’s spending commitments, add some of his own and still improve the budget situation

    Precisely. Although, you forgot the bit about removing so much from the revenue side as well. This is where an inept media has let us down so badly.

    But she still chose to give into them rather than keep her promise.

    I’m not even going there, you know precisely where I stand on the Price/Tax debate.

  286. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:22 am

    ’m sure most grandfathers with rejoice at the fact that common usage means they’re now misogynists.

    Well, only if they are. My grandfather had old fashioned values, but there is no way he could be described as a misogynist.

  287. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:31 am

    “you forgot the bit about removing so much from the revenue side as well”

    Agreed. I was in a hurry.

    “you know precisely where I stand on the Price/Tax debate.”

    If you are at all susceptible to reason you might look at the long line of High Court cases on what is a tax, starting with the Chicory Marketing Board case.

  288. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:32 am

    https://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=misogynist&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4MXGB_enAU564AU565&q=misogynist&gs_l=hp…0l5.0.0.0.5336………..0.6V2GcBRS2rc

    Most of the definitions here refer to hatred of women. I’d say that’s how most people continue to understand the term.

  289. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:35 am

    on what is a tax

    If you recall from way way back, I was more concerned with the term “Carbon Tax”, which, at the time was the term being applied to a very specific idea put forward by the greens for a tax on consumption, not the idea that “you could call this a tax”. I also put up, repeatedly, the whole claim that, while not wanting this specific “carbon tax”, Gillard did want, and would pursue, A Price on Carbon. Be it fixed or not, but market based, which is what we got.

    So much for me not going over this 😦

    I was in a hurry.,/i>

    Fair nuff 😉

  290. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:39 am

    I’d say that’s how most people continue to understand the term.

    Well that settles it then!

    But interestingly enough, the first two that come back say this

    is the hatred or dislike of women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including sexual discrimination, denigration

    then

    Misogynist definition, a person who hates, dislikes, mistrusts, or mistreats women. See more.

    But you reckon, so it is obviously decided 😉

    But John Simpson, chief editor of the OED, the world’s most respected dictionary, told The Australian: “We reviewed our evidence for the Oxford English Dictionary entry about ten years ago and decided that on the basis of modern usage we should expand the definition to include a reference to ‘prejudice against women’.”
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/macquarie-late-to-misogyny-game-says-oxford-english-dictionary/story-fn59niix-1226499300478#

    Just so yomm might be able to “Move Forward” 😉

  291. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:46 am

    The timing was a tad suspicious

    I read it as the Macquarie saving face in the light of the massive reaction to the speech, and didn’t want to get caught on the wrong side. As they had mentioned, they were aware of the change, just hadn’t implemented it.

  292. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:48 am

    They would say that. The war of words is a significant part of the culture wars.

  293. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 10:51 am

    Jones throwing bombs in defense of his brethren in fellowship of fucktards

    lol, loved turnbulls spin Ricky. How stupid does he think we are? bolt and jones, Labor party conspirators ROFL. He’s left the plantation

    Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt are “bomb throwers” doing the work of the Labor Party to undermine the Abbott government, says Malcolm Turnbull.

    And, should this budget prove to be as toxic and fatal to tonydumdum’d position as it deserves to be, turnbull isn’t leaving himself much room either

    ‘I am a cabinet minister, I support unreservedly, and wholeheartedly every element in the budget, every single one.”

    Whats a “petard”?

  294. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 11:05 am

  295. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 11:05 am

  296. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 11:39 am

    FYI, cos you’ll probably only hear about it in the tweets

  297. egg permalink
    June 5, 2014 2:46 pm

    Bolt might have it right, Talcum has all the hallmarks of a brilliant Labor leader.

  298. June 5, 2014 3:33 pm

    Listen to this condescending cunt lecturing Turnbull on how he should subscribe to his fucktarery, you can feel the neck veins about to pop…. For mine, this has all the hallmarks of a staged event..

    Jones and Dolts Hypocrisy is just beyond contempt

    http://www.2gb.com/audioplayer/47661

  299. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 5, 2014 3:34 pm

    I’ve decided that Bolt is a f**kwit. He turns just about any issue into a vindictive personal crusade. He’s lost the plot.

    Turnbull having dinner with Palmer is a sign of Turnbull’s strong stomach rather than disloyalty. The government will no doubt find that it is grateful to have someone who is on speaking terms with Palmer, and the fact that Turnbull gave up a night in order to maintain dialogue is some demonstration that he put the government’s interests ahead of his own health and sanity.

    Also – Bolt’s attack on Waleed Aly is equally odd and unbalanced. Aly would have to be about the most inoffensive, moderate broadcaster/commentator around. His main problem is that he is so bland and verbose.

    Bolt is just flat out trying to start (high profiles, well publicised) media brawls with anyone he can.

  300. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 5, 2014 3:40 pm

    sorry ricky, just got up after night shift and having brekky, I only got through half of the jones/bolt attack before having to turn it off, it quite sickened me, a double dose of the finest right wing hate. The rancid belching of two people eaters turned upon one of their own, too much for me.

  301. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 3:43 pm

    Senate Estimates last night revealed that despite starting work on its $80 billion cut to schools and hospitals ‘before Easter’, the Government still has not undertaken any assessment of the impact on Australian classrooms.

    http://kateellis.com.au/newsroom/976/

  302. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 3:43 pm

    Senate Estimates has exposed the Government’s misleading claim of $1.2 billion in additional school funding as an utter farce.

    Despite cutting $30 billion from schools in the Budget, the Government has repeatedly made the absurd claim of $1.2 billion in ‘new’ money for schools.

    “I can guarantee that we will be spending $1.2 billion more” – Tony Abbott, 3 December, Hansard

    The truth is, this money was already going to schools. There is no new money – only a $950 million cut to all 650 future Trade Training Centres, and a $450 million in cut to Outside School Hours Care.

    http://kateellis.com.au/newsroom/975/

  303. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 5, 2014 3:48 pm

    I’ve decided that Bolt is a f**kwit. He turns just about any issue into a vindictive personal crusade. He’s lost the plot.

    he’s been in a self serving, self piting funk ever since the court found him guilty of racism and sloppy, error filled ‘journalism’. It’s all about him and his ego, has a fragile glass jaw like abbott.

  304. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 3:49 pm

    Bolt is just flat out trying to start (high profiles, well publicised) media brawls with anyone he can.

    Which is why you’d think the most obvious reason he is doing this is for Unicorns from the Budget. It has worked, but it is all bad for the libs. Plenty of time for budget blues, cos this kind of pain they are inflicting will only get worst should it get through.

  305. June 5, 2014 3:59 pm

    The brand proliferation of self serving egocentric lying megalomaniacs knows no bounds, is it any wonder that their audience is made up of fucktards like Squeal?

  306. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 5, 2014 4:05 pm

  307. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 5, 2014 4:08 pm

    Which is why you’d think the most obvious reason he is doing this is for Unicorns from the Budget.

    malcolm says bolt and jones are undermining their efforts to sell and explain the budget and it’s heartbreaking to see.

  308. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 5, 2014 4:11 pm

  309. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 5, 2014 4:23 pm

    The public wants action, not just ICAC findings
    By ABC’s Quentin Dempster
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-05/dempster-the-public-wants-action-not-just-icac-findings/5502844

    I agree, what’s the point of it all if they get to take their ill gotten gains and receive no punishment at all? Pollies are the only people who can steal, bribe and collude for personal gain at taxpayer’s expense and never see any jail time, no deterrent at all.

    Malcolm Turnbull’s withdrawal from ABC appearances privately blamed on Tony Abbott’s office:

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbulls-withdrawal-from-abc-appearances-privately-blamed-on-tony-abbotts-office-20140605-39ks3.html#ixzz33k8m1sWV

  310. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 5, 2014 4:26 pm

    “I’ve decided that Bolt is a f**kwit. He turns just about any issue into a vindictive personal crusade. He’s lost the plot.

    Yep, I tend to agree with that. It is none of Andrew Bolts business if Turnbull has dinner with Palmer. It is a matter for the Liberal Party.

    I am not sure why Liberals are so untrusting about Turnbulls motives. I tend to agree with Turnbull on economic matters when he says Labor has trashed the budget.

  311. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 5, 2014 4:28 pm

    Open For Business: The Liberal Links Keep Coming
    https://newmatilda.com/2014/06/05/open-business-liberal-links-keep-coming

    …Prominent City of Sydney Councillor, Christine Forster was the woman selected to declare Redfern Travel officially open for business, in April this year…
    …So what’s the link from a tiny travel agency to the multi-billion tertiary education sector?…

    Private ‘For Profit’ Colleges: More Liberal Links Emerge:
    https://newmatilda.com/2014/06/04/private-profit-colleges-more-liberal-links-emerge

  312. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 5, 2014 4:39 pm

    Jones vs Turnbull… Malcolm Won, But Only By A Nose
    https://newmatilda.com/2014/06/05/jones-vs-turnbull-malcolm-won-only-nose

    …This morning, the Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull decided to distract further attention from his government’s appalling inability to sell ‘The Worst Budget In the History Of The World’ by creating yet another disaster of his own making.

    His strategy? Do an interview about, well, leadership speculation. But don’t just do any ordinary interview. Do one on a nationally syndicated radio program run by a man who has always been at least one sandwich short of a hamper.

    That’s what we call taking one for the team, Malcolm…

  313. TB Queensland permalink
    June 5, 2014 6:33 pm

    Open For Business: The Liberal Links Keep Coming

    And I was listening to Teresa Gambaro this morning on the radio burbling about a User Id system for VET learners … (according to Ms Gambaro it will also cover Certificates of Attainment* … ignorance is bliss …) …

    After interminably prattling on about the User Id number to be introduced in 2015 … she then launched into a “recognition” of “prominent” RTO’s** in Brisbane … as she rattled on, I just cringed, it was just a list of LNP supporters advertising their businesses … politics at its sewerage level …

    *The term is Statement of Attainment … awarded for successful assessment in a Unit(s) of Competency contained in in an Award – eg Certificate, Diploma, Advanced Dip.

    ** I was an RTO for 16 years …

  314. TB Queensland permalink
    June 5, 2014 6:38 pm

    That’s what we call taking one for the team, Malcolm…

    Eventually he will get some balls and tell them all to fk off … the frustration is manifest!

    Some of us just don’t deal with lying, cheating and deceit too well … and catliks in general ..

    Religion[edit]

    Although Turnbull is a convert to Roman Catholicism from Presbyterianism,[61] he has found himself at odds with the church’s teaching on abortion, stem cell research and same-sex marriage.[65][66][67] Turnbull supported legislation relaxing restrictions on abortion pill RU486 and he also voted for the legalisation of Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer (therapeutic cloning). He did so despite the vocal public opposition to both proposals by Cardinal George Pell, Archbishop of Sydney.

  315. TB Queensland permalink
    June 5, 2014 6:50 pm

    Has this Federal government got anything right?

    http://www.whatwillmydegreecost.com.au/

  316. June 5, 2014 6:54 pm

    ”…like the Right doesn’t do violence.”

  317. June 5, 2014 6:56 pm

    “Hypocrisy is always worth calling out. It exposes the stupidity of those strutting their faux outrage.”

    Strongly agree!

  318. egg permalink
    June 5, 2014 6:58 pm

    Umm… I’m doing a straw poll.

    Do you think Turnbull would make a better leader of the Labor Party?

  319. June 5, 2014 7:05 pm

    Probably, egg, yes…

    But I well remember the partisan arsehat way that many ALP limpets predictably turned on Turnbull like he was toxic anathema when he was ( temporarily ) Leader of the Oposition.

    Partisan political behaviour is demeaning.

    Now that I think of it, I probably was prone to be a lil monocular, way back when (not that long ago, on a geographical timescale) myself…

    OK, now I’m going to get sideways…4 days off & all dat shit…King of Jamesons…

  320. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 5, 2014 7:17 pm

    Umm… I’m doing a straw poll.
    Do you think Turnbull would make a better leader of the Labor Party?

    no, his economics would put him firmly in the libs camp, but he would be a socially progressive which puts him at odds with the fundies who have now taken over the coalition. I think of turnbull as similar to john hewson and I actually have a lot of respect for hewson’s politics and political honesty.

    My straw poll question is
    Do you think abbott would make a better leader of the DLP?

  321. egg permalink
    June 5, 2014 7:32 pm

    ‘Do you think abbott would make a better leader of the DLP?’

    Yes.

    ‘Partisan political behaviour is demeaning.’

    For some, unused to the rough and tumble of political life in a democracy, its probably soul destroying.

    Turnbull strikes me as someone who could unite a centre/left coalition.

  322. Tom R permalink
    June 5, 2014 8:10 pm

    But I well remember the partisan arsehat way that many ALP limpets predictably turned on Turnbull

    Don’t know if I’m in that list but, for the record, I’m not sucked in by his faux “lefty” status. He’s as much (and more in some ways) hard right silver spoon born to rule as the rest of them. Always has been, always will be. He’s the Hoochie Gucci Fiorucci Mama of politics, from his silks down to his paramour 😉

  323. For Daze permalink
    June 5, 2014 8:18 pm

    “4 days off & all dat shit…King of Jamesons…”

    😯

  324. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 5, 2014 8:28 pm

    Partisan political behaviour is demeaning.’
    For some, unused to the rough and tumble of political life in a democracy, its probably soul destroying.

    I think we should stop excusing immature, rude, uncivil, uncouth, aggressive and just plain unacceptable behaviour as ‘robust democracy’ and rough & tumble. We should call it what it is immature, loutish, bullying, thuggish behaviour that should not be tolerated in any workplace. Democracy can be served just as well by decent, principled and honest behavior and debates can still be robust yet civil. It is the reason people are turned off by politics [perhaps that is the goal] we should demand better from our political representation.

  325. insensitive, disrespectful, self-centred, arrogant and stupid permalink
    June 5, 2014 8:32 pm

    “debates can still be robust yet civil”

    In theory.

  326. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 5, 2014 8:53 pm

    “debates can still be robust yet civil”

    Yeah, maybe. But is it fun?

  327. All The Same permalink
    June 5, 2014 8:54 pm

    “and catliks in general ..”

    And bigots in general.

  328. egg permalink
    June 5, 2014 9:19 pm

    Australians accept our political circus, which is still not enjoyed by the citizens of the Middle Kingdom.

  329. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 5, 2014 9:36 pm

    we should demand better of our political representation

    That is certainly a fact.

  330. Tom R permalink
    June 6, 2014 9:52 am

    ROFL

  331. Tom R permalink
    June 6, 2014 9:52 am

    That is certainly a fact.

    Playing the “we should play nice now” card are we?

  332. June 6, 2014 12:16 pm

    As much as it pains me, l find myself agreeing with Mr-Talkbull, of course Teabag-Media don`t know what they`re screeching about, in their usual demented and unhinged fashion.

    #Go-Clive

  333. VictoriaSM permalink
    June 9, 2014 6:03 pm

    Reblogged this on According to Vic and commented:
    It was inevitable that one day Bolt would make an enemy of literally everyone.

  334. June 10, 2014 8:43 pm

    I can’t wait until Herr Oblivious has to eat these polarcentric words…

    “Nothing Gillard suffered by way of abuse and prejudice comes remotely near what the Left is heaping on Tony Abbott. Gillard should grow the hell up and accept her downfall was all her own work. Had she not been so catastrophically bad and deceitful, she would be prime minister still.

    But I guess that explains these boo-hoo appeals to pity.”

    * redux…


    Nothing Abbott suffered by way of abuse and prejudice comes remotely near what the Right has heaped on Julia Gillard. Abbott should grow the hell up and accept his downfall was all his own work. Had he not been so catastrophically bad and deceitful, he would be prime minister still.

    But I guess that explains these boo-hoo appeals to pity.”

    BooHooBolt massages his polemic bilge gland again. He sure knows how to sing the rapture melody to his crotchsniffers. It’s cultlike behaviour.

  335. Tom R permalink
    June 10, 2014 10:35 pm

    Nothing Abbott suffered by way of abuse and prejudice

    Canadia
    Suppository of Wisdom
    Shit Happens
    Where’s me Ladies

    Nasty Lefties ROFL

    (I note he hasn’t supplied examples of these atrocities 😉 )

  336. Tom R permalink
    June 10, 2014 10:38 pm

    BTW toiletcan… just picked up me copy of Riddley Walker tonight. Have read the first couple of pages, looks interesting, but gonna take some concentration I think. Off to have another go at it now. Cheers for the recommendation 😉

  337. Tom R permalink
    June 12, 2014 9:44 pm

    hehe toiletcan, I found a cheat sheet 🙂

    http://www.errorbar.net/rw/Annotations

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