Is Tony Abbott’s Office behind Turnbull Media Assault?

Seemed like a good place to repost this 🙂

I honestly thought you were pissing around at the end there reb. Holy shit, these grubs (in every inch of the meaning pyne puts into it) have no bar they will not delve to.

Fairfax Media can also reveal that Bolt and Jones have asked Labor for ammunition to use against Mr Turnbull, particularly in relation to his stewardship of the national broadband network.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/attacks-on-malcolm-turnbull-have-been-linked-to-a-reshuffle-of-the-abbott-ministry-20140605-39lzc.html#ixzz33obsjTdv

I can just imagine the jocularity at Labor hq on receipt of the request. I can also imagine some of the “dirt” they might decide to trawl.

Bolt and Jones are bitter narcissists, they see every challenge and issue as a personal one.

Turnbull has done better than anyone else in demonstrating what dickheads they are, and don’t they react?!

Really, do f**k of Allan, with your pathetic, puffed up pomposity.

I wonder which adult this adult is behind?

“”PM refuses to condemn Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt over Turnbull dispute””

Headline at SMH Dope Con. Fairfax trying very hard to Keep the Dream Alive

Why does the PM have to condemn anybody and who said he should ?

Bolt and Jones are not part of the govt and it is none of their business if Turnbull meets with Palmer unless it is against Coalition policy.

But it is obvious they are Coalition supporters. The ALP has its media supporters also. The ABC, Fairfax etc.

‘What happened to the budget?

‘Leadershit, gets ‘em every time.’

Very astute comrade, this is Abbott’s non-advertising campaign on the budget.

What has this got to do with Australia???

On Monday, the US committed to slash carbon emissions from coal fired plants by 30% by 2030.

– See more at: http://tcktcktck.org/2014/06/us-china-change-game-climate-talks-resume-bonn/62326#sthash.ObWsF6d1.dpuf

First Indonesia, then China, now our relationship with the US is about to be trashed

Australia risks seriously damaging its international reputation and being isolated in the global debate on climate change unless it rethinks its inaction on greenhouse gases, international experts have warned.
And a top adviser to the Obama administration on climate change said Australia could jeopardise its relationship with the United States if the Abbott government fails to fall into line on climate policy.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/us-ties-at-risk-over-climate-20140606-39omo.html#ixzz33uKv8Nyh

It’s all Labors fault 😦

The polls tell you more and more people are realising Abbott has not so much lost the plot as that he never had one. In opposition he was the wrecker, brutally effective against a divided and demoralised Labor Party, promising to lead an adult government faithful to its election commitments. But in power he and his ministers trudge through the smoking ruins of their policy flip-flops and broken promises, haplessly blaming their predecessors for the mess. This scaled new heights of idiocy on Wednesday when Defence Minister David Johnston proclaimed that it was Labor’s fault Abbott’s RAAF VIP jet had been late leaving for Indonesia

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/tory-selfdestruction-is-so-painfully-enjoyable-20140606-zs0e2.html#ixzz33uXSuhqn

”””””””’Chief of Staff as iron lady. Why is the Feminista so quiet on the success of Cred, breaking through the glass ceiling to rule Australia from behind the scenes?”””””””’

so dumpty, why `should` the feminista be `noisy` about credlin
””breaking through the (#so-called)glass ceiling””.?

if ya`possessed any kind of `wisdom`, ya`would know 99.99% of the population were kept below so-called glass ceiling, whether male or female,

and as armchair said, (l agree btw)
””A few successful women playing the man’s game, do not make for equality for the rest of them, the struggle for equality in the masses continues.””

#teabag-media are also useless on feminista subjects too, they`re usually only reporting `agenda`, `sexy` and `brutal` stories of the minority, not what affects the masses

””””””””Government attacks on Mr Palmer had backfired.

“When you are attacking what Clive is saying, I think you are attacking the wider public,” Dr Douglas said. “He is reflecting what everybody else thinks.

“This can only end very badly and it will not end badly for Clive Palmer. It will drive public support further in favour of Clive Palmer.

http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/palmer-united-party-would-get-13-per-cent-of-first-preference-vote-if-queensland-election-held-today-poll-finds/story-fnii5v6w-1226946910938
””””””””””””via-tb

Sounds `about` right to me. #Go Clive

That seems to be a reasonable comment if your cubicle is located in Frankston.
https://theguttertrash.com/2014/06/04/state-government-in-victoria-in-crisis/
#just-sayin

(Carlton #part-2)”””””””””’The Cunneen Commission into child abuse in the Hunter Valley found this week that Father Brian Lucas, Secretary of the Australian Catholic Bishops’ Conference, knew of child sexual abuse by a predatory priest, Father Denis McAlinden, but did nothing to report it to the police. Instead McAlinden was allowed to leave Australia, where his practise of abuse continued after 1993. Commissioner Cunneen found that Lucas was consulted about the plan to relocate McAlinden”””””””’

#dog-club is still disgracing itself l see.

””””””””Tanya Plibersek said Mr Abbott had made a succession of missteps during his travels overseas, the latest in the US.

http://www.news.com.au/national/deputy-opposition-leader-tanya-plibersek-says-tony-abbott-is-embarrassing-for-cancelling-meetings/story-fncynjr2-1226947461706

“Australians have to worry that he’ll be embarrassing us on the world stage”””””””

#oh Tanya, we won`t worry, we `expect` mr-rabbit to embarrass us

at the end of a tough guy competition between mr-rabbit and Vlad,

mr-rabbit`s carcass would strapped to the bull-bar of Vlad`s 4wd 🙂

…succession of missteps…

Case in point lolz

“tonydumdum speaks French (kinda)”

I wonder if you would post that if it was a Labor leader having trouble with French?

On second thoughts you would most probably say they were making an attempt to engage with the French people.

Lefties seem to have small minds and spend hours trawling through the media trying to find some irrelevant Conservative stuffup.

Surely you have better things to do with your time?

“”Most of us are used to it … keep going you’ll catch up one day …””

Well for once i agree with you.

Bolt tried to make out on his Sunday June 1 show that Turnbull wanted Abbotts job.

Next day Bolt wrote something different and then spent the rest of the week defending what he said in his newspaper column.

It was what he said on his Sunday show causing all the problem. He spent the rest of the week denying what he said on Sunday.

Well i guess Bolt is human and finds it hard to admit when he is in fault.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Canadia&src=hash&mode=photos

It’s all Greek to me reb

You lefties are insane.

Abbott said Canadia and then quickly corrected his mistake and said Canada and this is a big deal?

Mate

Lefties sure know how to hate.

””””””””””I didn’t see any signs whatsoever of the military in the heart of the city. Kind of makes a mockery of all the hysterical reports spurted in the pants wetter media back in Aus””””””””””

oh for sure, the reports will be full of hysterics, not so long ago, last week or two, l remember seeing one of our canberra buffoons spouting Thailandia must return to `democracy` asap. Yeah, like our fcukwits would know, or understand the situation.

The good news for you reb, is you don`t have mr-rabbit over there with you providing endless embarrassment, so you probably won`t need to hide ya`nationality or passport.

Have fun in Thailandia. 🙂

‘Wow got Netflicks and Unotelly proxy running tonight ..Happy days indeed :-)’

Naturally I’m happy for you.

brave sir loin ran away

The prime minister’s refusal to put climate change on the G20 agenda is yet another sign that he doesn’t understand the forces that will shape the next 30 years of global economic dialogue.

Lagarde and Kim have both declared climate change to be amongst the most serious threats to modern prosperity. As Lagarde said, “we are subsidising the very behaviour that is destroying our planet, and on an enormous scale”.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/09/unfortunately-tony-abbott-cant-cancel-meetings-with-the-climate

🙂 😦

Lagarde is in the pay of big bureaucracy and cannot be trusted.

some junior Coalition MPs don’t think its fair.

So, their not all as dumb as tonydumbdumb. BUT, this was a major plank in his election campaign. He better put up one hell of a fake fight to try and ultimately not quite get it to try and sell his bleeding heart to the electorate

Of course, many knew this is exactly how it would play out, but they were the crazies.

Why is it anybody who follows facts and science can’t be trusted by you. Don’t bother answering, it was a redundant question (as most to you are)

Interestingly, a short time ago, tabot was arguing about us “going it alone”. Now he is leading a push to try and get rid of what he claimed didn’t exist? 😯

‘Why is it anybody who follows facts and science can’t be trusted by you. Don’t bother answering, it was a redundant question (as most to you are)’

Haven’t you heard, the science is not settled. The hiatus is the elephant in the room.

from eggs link

Mr Abbott said the he was encouraged at the new US approach of requiring coal-fired power stations to cut emissions by 30 per cent by 2030, because it did not place a price on carbon but used regulation to cut pollution.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-seeks-alliance-to-thwart-president-obama-on-climate-change-policy-20140609-39t93.html#ixzz34BpFMQ00

hmm, I thought regulation was bad? Didn’t we just have a day where we got rid of lots of “regulation” (read, spelling mistakes)? Really confused now. The small government party wants big government control, while abandoning their faith in markets. It really looks like they just don’t

The argument that the US is somehow introducing a carbon pricing mechanism is nothing more than a delusional lie

Not sure who is arguing that. But, his plan certainly encourages the states to expand theirs. Mind you, it would be no bigger lie than tabot trying to claim that what the US is doing is akin to direct inaction. But, we all know what Obama wants.

[I]f there’s one thing I would like to see, it’d be for us to be able to price the cost of carbon emissions.

http://grist.org/news/obama-really-wishes-he-could-put-a-price-on-carbon/

Is that not the argument presented in your own comment?

No. The growth in carbon markets in America has been growing for a number of years, unrelated to this recent push by Obama, who, as is shown, prefers that way forward, but is not legislating it. Mind you, it does encourage it 😉

http://www.skepticalscience.com/news.php?n=616&p=2

(heavens! the dot points have disappeared)

(Gillard’s latest: Educating girls is central to any nation’s effort to transform itself.)

Going on some of the comments here Meta, we need to see about edicating older white males too 😉

I give you credit TR, you’re a master of obfuscation.

“In fact TR is one of the most articulate commenters here ”

Is there a punchline for that ?

you’re a master of obfuscation.

You say obfuscation, I say English. 😉

What was your point with this comment:
“And what is it with rwdb and their constant need to lie about the direction of Carbon Pricing mechanisms?”

Because of the text I had highlighted in the original comment

The world’s two largest economies – China and the US – are increasingly adopting carbon trading to cut greenhouse gas emissions, contrary to suggestions by Prime Minister Tony Abbott that other countries are not introducing schemes.

https://theguttertrash.com/2014/06/06/is-tony-abbotts-office-behind-turnbull-media-assault/#comment-61049

As I showed later, it didn’t really have anything to with Obama. The US (and many other countries) have been adopting carbon trading mechanism for the entire time our pm and his media mates have been telling us we are “going it alone”. We have been/are being lied to by the likes of tabot and ulman about the real state of play in the real world.

And tabot still pretends none of them exist. Talk about “obfuscation”!

Perhaps I should use that for the punchline? 😯

In fact you linked to an article which article which suggested Obama’s current changes would lead to the greater adoption of emissions trading. Which is it?

I don’t disagree with that claim. It isn’t, however, the one you made earlier, which was ” the US is somehow introducing a carbon pricing mechanism”.

The pertinent section of the article that I was concerned with was the quote I highlighted about tabots lying about the state of carbon pricing mechanisms globally. Hence the highlighting. Just because you want to jump at shadows is of no concern to me. tabot claimed “that other countries are not introducing schemes.”

This is demonstratably false, as I said. I never said that ” the US is somehow introducing a carbon pricing mechanism” They already have them, and more and more states are signing up, quite possibly due to Obamas action, but only indirectly. At the same time, China and India are ramping theirs up also.

Basically, tabot is full of shit, and you trying to pretend it is about some claim about Obama legislating a carbon pricing mechanism is realll beginning to look like another hopeless unicorn, rather than an acceptance of the simple fact that tabot is an inveterate liar

Clive Palmer offers compromise on paid parental leave:

If this keeps up, we’ll end up legislating what Labor already has in there lol

You linked to a piece arguing that Obama’s actions were likely to lead to an increase in emissions trading. When you asked me to point to someone making that argument, I did.

Just to be clear SB, your specific words were “the US is somehow introducing a carbon pricing mechanism” That is not the same as the argument you presented above. I do agree that Obamas policy does encourage the use of carbon trading schemes, I DO NOT agree that he is somehow introducing a carbon pricing mechanism himself, which is what your initial post claimed. He is enabling it, a far cry from him introducing it.

The fact that, given that states can introduce whatever they want to meet his targets, and that carbon pricing schemes appear to be such a popular choice to achieve this must be of concern to the libs, unless of course, they ignore what is happening, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS HIGHLIGHTING.

no matter how ludicrous it made him appear.

I prefer ao’s assessment of me personally 😉 But I’m biased.

”I bet he’s good looking as well”

I believe Splatterbottom uses his image.

of to see Edge of Tomorrow

I just saw the previews of that last night, look good, considering who is in it, hope you enjoy it.

I believe Splatterbottom uses his image.

Not sure how or even if he got my particular Colonoscopy piccies, but I can neither confirm nor deny.

Well, economist Larry Ball has gone back and compared how much the OECD believed that developed economies could grow in 2007 with how much they think those countries can grow today. The depressing answer is that, on an economy-weighted average, they think rich countries have lost 8.4 percent of their potential output.
………..
And that damage hasn’t been evenly spread. The OECD thinks countries like Switzerland and Australia — which, not so coincidentally, have had some of the most aggressive monetary policy — have barely lost any potential, if at all. But it thinks the euro zone’s crisis countries have been maimed: Greece and Ireland, according to the OECD’s estimates, have lost almost 35 percent of their potential output.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/06/10/will-we-ever-fully-recover-from-the-great-recession/

The question is, will the adults end up giving us the recession we didn’t have to have?

“The question is, will the adults end up giving us the recession we didn’t have to have?”

Keating gave us that recession. We had over two years of continuous double digit unemployment under Keating from 1991-1994. Nothing like it since the Great Depression.

During Keatings recession a large number of countries did fine. The USA did not have a single month of DD unemployment.

The ALP has never had a good record with unemployment.

I also detect in your posts the great hope that the Abbott govt fails so you can say “I told you so”

Haven’t you heard, the science neocon propaganda is not settled unrelenting despite empirical consensus by scientific experts The hiatus agenda stupidity is the elephant shit in the room.

Could not agree more… The miister for cltoral Cliché’s is trying to gather a wrecking crew of like minded sycophant ideologists as all bullies do. A man of direct action distraction

“Told you so nil “

Yes and let me guess. When Keating went to an election in 1993 with unemployment at 11% you voted for keating. But if the Coalition had been in power with unemployment at 11% you would be saying “ how could anybody vote for the govt when unemployment is at 11%”

That is why i say facts are irrelevant. People believe what they want to believe.

Ricky the hiatus is real and not propaganda, scientists have accepted that the models have failed. Where to from here?

Ricky the hiatus is real and not propaganda, scientists have accepted that the models have failed. Where to from here?

Well not to make such a broad sweeping blanket statement of non specific generalisation to accord to your minute minority, scientifically insignificant, paid for corporate view lobby denialist agenda based denial…

Reality would be my best advice as a trajectory back from stupidity… 🙄

Bring it on 🙂

Flight Centre’s profit warning shows no one in the discretionary retail space is safe, OptionsXpress market analyst Ben Le Brun says.
“A potential downgrade-a-thon may be in the offing over the next few months,” he said.
“On the evidence, May seems to be where the pain has stepped up a notch and a lot of that would have to do with the handing down of the federal budget.”

http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/spending-slump-hits-flight-centre/story-e6frfkur-1226950311111

‘Reality would be my best advice as a trajectory back from stupidity…’

Thanx for your helpful thoughts.

As a long time member of the Denialati Club I object to Abbott barging in as though he owns the place. The man lacks backbone and lies when it suits him.

‘You have the back where you can peddle your bullshit’

So when someone here talks about the weather or something related to it, I should bite my tongue?

What if I agree with everything the leftoids say on the issue, but crouched as satire?

Deputy TomR

Of course limitations must be imposed on heretics who wilfully flout blog rules, a cone of silence is too good for them.

What if I agree with everything the leftoids say on the issue, but crouched as satire?

Dunno you would have to ask a leftoid, what ever that is, Not sure but I think it’s anyone who disagrees with the neo religious right of the Liberal Party inclusive of card carrying members of liberal branches… for guidance, just mix the spanish inquisition with any despot dictator, add a bit of monsanto, haliburton, whack on about the free market economy, morality, family values, illegals, terrorist threats and you are pretty much there. You get the picture, anyone with empathy, critical thinking who tackles an issue on merit rather than a footy match 🙂

** chuckle

Good catch Ricky.

** chuckle

Thought you’d like that….
Here Jamie has somfin 4 ya Egg 🙂

‘Here Jamie has somfin 4 ya Egg’

Wealth sets a fine example, Gina and Clive are in the same class.

Funny I was walking down the road arguing with myself over that, thanks for clearing it up.

Like this.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/mike-bairds-sydney-rapid-transit-system-to-include-second-harbour-rail-crossing-and-three-new-underground-stations/story-fni0cx12-1226949995840

I don’t think it is particularly sensible to have public utilities, such as Australia Post, subsidised by taxpayers.

Is there some economic justification for subsidy or is this only an opinion?

‘My point, egg, infrastructure is not necessarily “material progress” but includes intellectual’

We take that as a given, like Abbott’s grand plan in the medical arena discussed in the budget.

“Keating gave us that recession.

Wrong again … the recession was world wide and unfortunately we had to experience it ”

Not wrong. It was a Mickey Mouse worldwide recession that lasted 8 months. But it was our worst recession since the Great Depression

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_1990s_recession_in_the_United_States

“The United States entered recession in July 1990, which lasted 8 months through March 1991.[1] Although the recession was mild relative to other post-war recessions,[2] it was characterized by a sluggish employment recovery…………………..Job losses and unemployment continued to rise and peaked at 7.8% in June 1992”

Get that?? Unemployment peaked at 7.8% in the USA but we had several years of continuous DD unemployment. Nothing like it here since the Great Depression.

I think you will find that Treasury/ALP took a different policy during the GFC because they most probably believed ALP policy was wrong during Keatings recession. And guess what. I think they got it wrong again during the GFC. Just wasted billions of dollars for no good reason.

Abbott is taking a big gamble with his $20 billion Medical Research Future Fund. Is this intelligent infrastructure or a wank in the dark? The co-payments are going into this black hole and it better produce something productive or he will be held accountable.

“WTF does that mean? More wiggle words …….. actually its fucking nonsense … ”

Well you could read the link i gave. It suits the ALP narrative that Keatings recession was a bad worldwide recession. It was a mild recession worldwide. Unemployment peaked at 7.8% in the USA. But we had DD unemployment for years.

‘it’s a blank cheque for Big Foreign Pharma to massage the government by.’

Maybe, he hasn’t spelt anything out, but its more than likely the government will try and attract the best brains to extend human life.

We are on the cusp a medical revolution and big pharma will probably be a major player.

People should read this article by Peter Criss. Criss was the person Tim Dunlop ran to when he wanted to blast the Howard govt for ordering the Super Hornets

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/there-is-nothing-super-about-this-hornet/2007/03/14/1173722557984.html?page=fullpage

“Three sentences on page eight of the report say it all: “The consequences of low specific excess power in comparison to the threat are poor climb rates, poor sustained turn capability, and a low maximum speed. Of greatest tactical significance is the lower maximum speed of the F/A-18E/F since this precludes the ability to avoid or disengage from aerial combat. In this regard, the F/A-18E/F is only marginally inferior to the F/A-18C/D, whose specific excess power is also considerably inferior to that of the primary threat, the MiG-29.”

Forget about the new Sukhoi Su-30 Flanker family of Russian fighters proliferating across the region: all Hornet variants are acknowledged in the report as being no match for even the older MiG-29s. ”

I remember Dunlop ran several posts blasting the Howard govt for ordering the Hornets. Now everybody says the SH’s are great.

Toilet I see your angst and note the dangers of multinationals like Monsanto, but its out of my hands.

“Another major difference is that Abbott has just purchased an ADDITIONAL 58 F35′s over the initial ALP pledge of 14 aircraft … ”

You keep repeating the same crap over and over again.

We have 70 Hornets and 24 Super Hornets. The 70 Hornets we got in the early 1980’s. They are old. They were always going to be replaced by 70-100 F35’s depending on the cost and the position of the budget. And we don’t pay for them until they arrive. WE get 14 in 2020 and the rest in the early 2020’s. WE pay for them then.

To believe we would have an airforce of 14 F35’s is insane.

‘And we don’t pay for them until they arrive. WE get 14 in 2020 and the rest in the early 2020′s. WE pay for them then.’

Exactly, we’ll get 14 in 2020 and if the Chinese and Russians can still out fly us, then the rest of the deal is off.

So what’s the justification for running a subsidised public utility?

The dividends from them is government revenue, used to do things like build hospitals, or employ some extra public servants.

“that would more be a comment on simplistic gullible stupidity”

You’d know more about that than I would. 😉

“I guess Malcolm in the middle … invents the internet right?”

I think that was Al Gore.

Fuck …
Here ya go.. 14 in 2009… now 72 all up. Its not fucking rocket science 🙄

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140423/DEFREG03/304230023/Australia-Purchases-58-More-F-35s

https://www.f35.com/global/participation/australia

http://thediplomat.com/2014/04/australia-to-purchase-58-more-f-35-fighters/

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-23/australia-to-buy-58-more-joint-strike-fighters/5405236

Tony is on remote control and Credlin is driving

http://www.crikey.com.au/2014/06/11/tips-and-rumours-1140/

I know who’s thick

“The Diplomat”
Australia committed on Wednesday to purchase 58 additional F-35 Joint Strike Fighters (JSF) at a cost of $12.4 billion.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Defense Minister David Johnston announced the move in a speech in Canberra today, and said that the aircraft would be delivered to Australia by 2023. This will bring Australia’s total F-35 fleet numbers up to 72
after an initial pledge to purchase 14 F-35s back in 2009. Australia also holds an option to acquire a further 28 JSFs in the coming years.

NOTE “ADDITIONAL” after an initial pledge to purchase 14 F-35s back in 2009

If its got cost/time run out issues why buy more until the problems are fixed

The question I want to ask TB is, if they can accept cost over-runs from the yanks, why not from our own firms?

THE future of naval shipbuilding in Australia hangs in the balance after the Abbott Government excluded local yards from a major new contract due to poor project performance.

“This is not a blank cheque.”

http://www.news.com.au/technology/naval-shipbuilding-in-australia-in-limbo-as-the-abbott-government-sends-contracts-offshore/story-e6frfrnr-1226946226481

They are systematically destroying our manufacturing base. Is it simply because Unions are present there? Or do they just hate people who work for a living?

it’s a blank cheque for Big Foreign Pharma to massage the government by.

And there we have it toilet, more taxpayers money to the big end of town. It is what the libs do best. I’m sure a guy forced to go back to the Dr repeatedly for his dodgy hip replacement to get medication for the pain will be glad to hear that his extra $6 (minimum) per visit is going to feather the bed of the same assholes who buggered up his hip replacement in the first place.

When was that, exactly?

That would be just before the libs got hold of it.

So what’s the justification for running a subsidised public utility?

Read and be amazemented yomm

https://theguttertrash.com/2014/06/06/is-tony-abbotts-office-behind-turnbull-media-assault/#comment-61244

Ricky the F35s were a fait accompli after due diligence, both sides of politics understood that the Alliance must be upheld.

“Read and be amazemented yomm”

Really, there is too much effort being required of taxpayers. If the public funds or guarantees an infrastructure program or fee for service commercial organisation, it should be entitled to get some form of dividend from it, not to be continually loaded up with underwriting losses or providing subsidies.

Every dollar in subsidy is a dollar less in education or health or some other actual public service.

Why is a few hundred million$$ in subsidy to utilities better expenditure policy than putting it into (say) pensions, or reducing the HECs burden?

Really, there is too much effort being required of taxpayers

HTFU Princess!!

Why is a few hundred million$$ in subsidy to utilities

I think you will find that Aussie Post actually makes money. Letter delivery is the chain that drags at the moment, that is more than offset by parcel delivery.

🙂

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Definitely not, due diligence will stop future governments from buying lemons unnecessarily.

And yet this gubbermint just committed to buying 100 lemons??

When will this due diligence creep in.

AND, they are buying them, and paying for, cost overruns, while at the same time throwing Aussie firms and jobs on the scrap heap for that very reason (they say)

And Labor would have to. The purchase has bipartisan support.

Possibly, I haven’t seen a comment from Labor on that. Have you?

We have moved on…In our view it is the responsibility of government to provide equality of opportunity with a fair and comprehensive support system for those who are most vulnerable

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/11/hockey-dismisses-budget-critics

I don’t think hockey has been introduced to the PPL scheme yet 😯

Yes, I understand that it is only the letter delivery division that is loss making.

It doesn’t really make much difference, because the profitable part is providing the subsidy.

Therefore reducing the dividend to the owner (us) and reducing the funds available for education, pensions etc.

“Kelbourne”? Hand held devices aren’t always good at spelling

The Government confirmed in 2009 that we were going to buy 100F35′s

As has laboriously been attempted to be highlighted to you nil, the key term was “planned”

This Government has Committed to it.

There are different circumstances now, We are, after all, apparently in budget “emergency”. I would like to see the Labor Governments opinion of it under these drastically changed circumstances.

And, before going off at the others again, consider the terms “planned” and “committed”, and specifically, how they differ.

I’m not saying Labor wouldn’t have, had they remained in power, but, had they remained in power, they would not have been slashing into the worst off in order to fund it. There are now different circumstances because of the radical direction this gubamint took, so Labors plans may have changed.

Committed … ‘pledged or bound to a certain course or policy; dedicated.’

Like a marriage, with all the best of intentions.

Like a marriage

As in legally binding?

Every dollar in subsidy is a dollar less in education or health or some other actual public service.

Like providing a postal service to all regions?

Going postal now

Under the new goobermint, that term means “unemployed” doesn’t it? 😉

“This dumb cunt does not even understand what a white paper is, ”

My understanding is that a white paper is a policy document of the govt and in 2009 it recommended buying 100F35’s. We are going to get 72 which is a cutback.

“There are different circumstances now, We are, after all, apparently in budget “emergency”

We don’t pay for them until they arrive. Govt ministers usually follow Public Service advise and it would be unlikely that a Labor govt would have ordered less than 72.

“14 is the magic number… not your hatefully hopeful projection.”

14 is not the magic number. There is no way we would have an airforce of 14 F35’s. These things are usually done in stages. And if we have enough money we will order another 28.

Our current fleet of 70 F/A 18 Hornets was always going to be replaced by a similar number of F35’s.

“Next will be names being named.”

The unnamed will be nonplussed at the prospect, no doubt.

“So purchase on merit then? Not a blank cheque?”

Only fools issue blank cheques. (Merit is a blank word.)

“Possibly, I haven’t seen a comment from Labor on that. Have you?”

Opposition leader Bill Shorten not only backed the decision, but claimed credit for it. “It was Labor who believed that the Joint Strike Fighter was an appropriate addition to our air power,” he told Radio National.

Squeal you fuckwit read the source document and admit you were wrong you fucking dipshit….

Its there in black and white what the fuck is your problem?… Like everything else you are flogging a dead horse let go give it up move on… You are wrong, no amount of bold type and opinion quoting projection will alter the fact that you are acrimoniously incorrect in the most magnanimous way… Next

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‘The NSW Nationals have called on the federal government to fulfil the Gonski school funding deal signed by the Gillard government, backing Adrian Piccoli, the state Education Minister.

‘And NSW regional areas have been promised a big boost in funding for water security, tourism and freight in next week’s state budget, with Nationals leader Andrew Stoner saying there would be $1 billion in investment in regional infrastructure.’

Oz

“Neil is the clear winner of this debate, as discussed at the beginning, its a bipartisan arrangement.”

True dat.

”””””””””’lesser’ partisan arguments (supposedly) for ‘wisely & prudently’ spending the money which they forcibly remove from what we’ve earned?”””””””

l reckon the flying trash-cans high-light the teabag insanity, they can`t make a sane case on just about anything, spent big buck$ on flying junk, while claiming financial responsibility, and slashing all types of essential services. #Teabag-lnsanity

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so dunny, sounds like ya`got busted for denying the interlopers ya`support, what did they $ting you

who gives a fcuk what l `think`,

what l `know` is both blue `and` red are inflicted with teabag-insanity, and with the appearance of `drones` on the market,

the flying trash-cans are nothing more than aircraft-industry `welfare`, and there is no rush to waste buying junk, or the quantity of junk, more product should have been looked at, including from ussr/russia and china

You did not answer the question.

Should we have an Army, Navy Air Force??

If you think we should have an Army, Navy, Airforce maybe you should stand for office, become defence Minister and then you can order the equipment we should be buying.

Remember Tim Dunlop and his supporters blasted Brendon Nelson for ordering the Super Hornets. Now everybody is saying what a great buy the Super Hornets were.

Should we have an Army, Navy Air Force??