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Rostrum: Extraordinary General Meeting Edition!

August 8, 2014

UN-SECURITY COUNCIL-SYRIA

Dear fellow outraged patriots,

Our once great nation finds itself in unprecedented peril.

Despite the government’s best efforts to get today’s generation of leaners, shifters and bludgers into jobs, today those fine people at the Australian Bureau of Statistics have revealed that unemployment is now at its highest levels in 12 years.  That’s right TWELVE YEARS!

It’s clear that threats of cutting off welfare and forced work for the dole programs, are only forcing more employed people to give up gainful employment for the life of luxury that awaits them on Newstart. And it’s all at the expense of we well-educated and gainfully employed middle classes.

But fortunately, and with thanks to our nation’s wealthiest self-sacrificing entrepreneurs help is at hand.

Mining billionaire Twiggy Forrest has suggested that some sort of ration card system could work, which has been well-received by Liberal party voters and the wealthy alike.  It just goes to show that innovation can come from anywhere.   The proposal has been well-received by the Prime Minister who is also contemplating reducing the minimum wage to $2 an hour in accordance with global competitiveness comparison studies funded by Gina Rhinehart.

Meanwhile, the ever-affable Eric Abetz has announced that hospital waiting times could be dramatically reduced if Australian women simply stopped having abortions.  However, it may have the unintended consequence of driving up the numbers of single mothers, but what good Catholic politician would oppose such a scheme.  None that we could find, and rightly so.

Not only that, but we now find that our growing history will be kept for two years so that unemployed spinsters can peruse what sights you’ve been perving on at 2:00am in the morning for your own protection.

So we here at the Gutter Trash called together our team of international correspondents to hold an extraordinary emergency meeting of our Grand Council (pictured above), where a grand gets you a seat at the table.

Clearly we need real solutions, or a pamphlet, or a military operation, or something!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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72 Comments leave one →
  1. Walrus permalink
    August 8, 2014 4:14 pm

    “Not only that, but we now find that our growing history will be kept for two years so that unemployed spinsters can peruse what sights you’ve been perving on at 2:00am in the morning for your own protection.”

    Well don’t let this little known fact shock you but Telstra already stores all metadata for 7 years. And Dog knows how long Google, Facebook et al store it for.

  2. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 8, 2014 4:17 pm

    I’m in the process of re-creating myself as left-wing market anarchist. This is a no-brainer for me since deep down I’m a bleedin’ heart, I like free markets and I hate government.

    I still haven’t quite worked out the details, but that is one of the perks of anarchism – you don’t need to. In the meantime the people should rise up and kill all politicians and bureaucrats. Further, I implore the Grand Council to immediately repeal all laws and dissolve itself. Except for s.18C. We can’t have people being offended, can we?

  3. egg permalink
    August 8, 2014 4:25 pm

    ‘that unemployment is now at its highest levels in 12 years.’

    Its a cyclic phenomenon, assisted by the downturn in resources, so infrastructure spending should reduce unemployment to healthier levels in the run up to the next election.

  4. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 8, 2014 4:25 pm

    ‘unemployed spinsters can peruse what sights you’ve been perving on at 2:00am in the morning for your own protection’

    That’s nice. At least Fifi will have something to do when she get a little long in the tooth.

  5. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2014 4:47 pm

    However, it may have the unintended consequence of driving up the numbers of single mothers, but what good Catholic politician would oppose such a scheme. None that we could find, and rightly so.

    I watched, Secrets of the Vatican, last night and was sad to see that it wasn’t just me who has had – shall we say – certain “misgivings”, regarding the catlik organised congregation …

    http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/309536323683/secrets-of-the-vatican

    The documentary covered a range of useful subjects for controlling large populations- paedophilia, rape, sodomy, gay clubs, money laundering, account tampering, concubines, control strategies, conspiracy, corruption, cover ups and much, much more …

    What we need is the catlik church to take over Australia’s government and run the country properly … Oh, fk! Wait a minute ….!

  6. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 8, 2014 4:50 pm

    The Greeks get a bum rap:

    Nixon: Let me say something before we get off the gay thing. I don’t want my views misunderstood. I am the most tolerant person on that of anybody in this shop. They have a problem. They’re born that way. You know that. That’s all. I think they are. Anyway, my point is, though, when I say they’re born that way, the tendency is there. [But] my point is that Boy Scout leaders, YMCA leaders, and others bring them in that direction, and teachers. And if you look over the history of societies, you will find, of course, that some of the highly intelligent people … Oscar Wilde, Aristotle, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, were all homosexuals. Nero, of course, was, in a public way, in with a boy in Rome.

    Haldeman: There’s a whole bunch of Roman emperors…

    Nixon: But the point is, look at that, once a society moves in that direction, the vitality goes out of that society. Now, isn’t that right, Henry?

    Kissinger: Well –

    Nixon: Do you see any other change, anywhere where it doesn’t fit?

    Kissinger: That’s certainly been the case in antiquity. The Romans were notorious –

    Haldeman: The Greeks.

    Kissinger: – homosexuals…

    Nixon: The Greeks. And they had plenty of it … By God, I am not going to have a situation where we pass along a law indicating, ‘Well, now, kids, just go out and be gay.’ They can do it. Just leave them alone. That’s a lifestyle I don’t want to touch…

    Kissinger: It’s one thing for people to, you know, like some people we know, who would do it discreetly, but to make that a national policy…

  7. Walrus permalink
    August 8, 2014 5:05 pm

    “…..The documentary covered a range of useful subjects for controlling large populations- paedophilia, rape, sodomy, gay clubs, money laundering, account tampering, concubines, control strategies, conspiracy, corruption, cover ups and much, much more … ”

    Every one of those subjects including paedophilia but excluding concubines (I think) was part and parcel of the former NSW ALP government

  8. Walrus permalink
    August 8, 2014 5:08 pm

    “The Greeks get a bum rap:”

    As the Italians confess………………the Greeks invented Sex…………………….the Italians refined it by trying it on Women

  9. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2014 5:09 pm

    Every one of those subjects including paedophilia but excluding concubines (I think) was part and parcel of the former NSW ALP government

    Do you have a link?

  10. Walrus permalink
    August 8, 2014 5:30 pm

    Plus………………a concubine

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/della-boscas-mistress-revealed-20090902-f8jv.html

  11. Tom R permalink
    August 8, 2014 6:06 pm

    Well don’t let this little known fact shock you but Telstra already stores all metadata for 7 years. And Dog knows how long Google, Facebook et al store it for.

    So does that make it right that the guvmint wants to do it?

  12. Tom R permalink
    August 8, 2014 6:09 pm

    was part and parcel of the former NSW ALP government

    Who are looking like Saints beside the libs at the moment 😉

  13. Walrus permalink
    August 8, 2014 6:10 pm

    “So does that make it right that the guvmint wants to do it?”

    The government is simply requiring all Telcos to keep the data for at least 2 years

  14. Walrus permalink
    August 8, 2014 6:13 pm

    “Who are looking like Saints beside the libs at the moment “”

    Only you could compare a bribe of $10K to an Obeid driven taxpayer mining fraud of upwards of $100M.

    Plus the other stuff

  15. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2014 6:14 pm

    Plus………………a concubine

    So you were wrong again … congratulations for admitting it … a first …

    The government is simply requiring all Telcos to keep the data for at least 2 years …

    I can’t find any info that Telstra stores metadata … I’ve been impressed with your links this evening … do you have one for this?

  16. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2014 6:17 pm

    Only you could compare a bribe of $10K to an Obeid driven taxpayer mining fraud of upwards of $100M.

    LOL! Only a CPA* would think like that … its the MONEY!

    Steal $10 and your a fkn thief … steal $1 million and your a thief!

    If you weren’t tied up with organised religion you would know that!

    Plus the other stuff

    GUFFAW!

  17. Splatterbottom permalink
    August 8, 2014 6:31 pm

    Too right TB. The only difference is opportunity. Obeid was around longer and Labor in power longer.

  18. Walrus permalink
    August 8, 2014 6:32 pm

    Oh and guess who Telstra already shares metadata with……………………?

    Drum roll…………………………………………………..the FBI

  19. August 8, 2014 7:05 pm

    So this week we have two federal ministers and an opposition leader doing the doggy shuffle confessing their undying devotion to dog..

    Abortions causing breast cancer by blokes who thrive on anecdotal faith from the 50’s that all people on the dole are bludgers who don’t apply for jobs that they cant create and like dog are figments of their own imaginary spin.

    A highly paid snouter bloke coming to the conclusion that he could have done it better because he is paid more and he has anecdotal evidence to substantiate it.

    An attorney general that ate his own shit after trying to change a law that was working fine… then the PM had to ring the defendant and apologise because he was sorry he made a captain’s call…the last of which was sirs and dukes…

    The Putinany two step budgetary diversion

    Unexplained metadata that may or may not be browsing severed heads porn coming from 25 odd Aussies on a Jihad.. that we may or may not be having…

  20. TB Queensland permalink
    August 8, 2014 7:26 pm

    Oh and guess who Telstra already shares metadata with …

    And Al Qaeda, Wally … be very, very careful here …

    You have the links – of course …

  21. Tom R permalink
    August 8, 2014 7:40 pm

    The government is simply requiring all Telcos to keep the data for at least 2 years

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    And you are OK with this?

    You’re not worried about the fact that what you do in the privacy of your home is kept for any hacker to grab hold of at any time?

    You’re not worried that government officials can just reach and look into your personal life on any whim they might have?

    You’re not worried that what you argued against when Labor proposed similar is fine now?

    Even though, as has been shown too often, this does nothing to combat Terrorism. It is simply so the people in power can have more data about you.

    And you all of a sudden are quite happy with this.

    The libs and their little cheerleaders screamed blue murder when Labor raised this (as they should have). But now, it is all OK, all to stop the nasty terrorists terrorizing terribly

    pantswetterz

  22. Go Tiges permalink
    August 8, 2014 8:42 pm

    All tied up at “The G”. 😯
    .

  23. Walrus permalink
    August 8, 2014 9:43 pm

    You really are slow TomR

    The Telcos keep the data

  24. Walrus permalink
    August 8, 2014 9:49 pm

    Yes I have links to a well known Right Wing Nut Job

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/07/12/telstras-deal-with-the-devil-fbi-access-to-its-undersea-cables/

    Telstra would be denied access to USA otherwise

  25. armchair opionator permalink
    August 8, 2014 9:54 pm

    I heard a telco rep interviewed on the radio and he said the telcos don’t keep the metadata. They have no use for it at all and they discard it after normal billing info is made. They are not security agents and said the info would have to be stored at great expense which would be passed on to consumers by way of bill increases.

  26. August 8, 2014 9:56 pm

    Yes I have links to a well known Right Wing Nut Job

    Yep http://iainhall.wordpress.com/

  27. August 8, 2014 9:57 pm

    Sorry Reb.. in the interest if god taste and a bridge too far delete…

  28. Walrus permalink
    August 8, 2014 10:01 pm

    Your telco rep was probably not Telstra as the small ones just rent capacity along Telstra hardware.

    Telstra probably has that Telcos data

  29. Tony permalink
    August 8, 2014 10:43 pm

    #topeighttiges

  30. August 8, 2014 11:13 pm

    I Spent 8 years of my life setting up Resellers of telstra bandwidth after deregulation… was my Compression technology that was my shtick… those that chased the illusive 22.5% margin worshiped my accidental talent..

    I was accidently in the middle of it chasing something else…oblivious to the fact that I was sitting on a goldmine in commercially compressing audio, dismissing algorithms in QA as shiyt (they were). I made lots of money circuit splitting.. for a few years which gave accountants a hard on.. I was chasing 128k 24 bit purity.

    But then again I was recording on Hi biased 2′ analog tape at 15IPS 🙂 Hand up anyone that owns an alesis masterlink?.. nobody? thought so.

  31. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2014 10:16 am

    The shock ban is being described within Federal Government ranks as a “full-scale weaponisation of trade”.

    Will someone please give Abbott a set of cams and a gold plated AK47 for Christmas … and a one way ticket to Ukraine … weaponisation of trade … gawd give me strength …

  32. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2014 10:21 am

    LOL! From KL’s link … August 8, 2014 7:57 pm

    He resigned in June but has now brought an adverse action complaint in the Fair Work Commission alleging he was constructively dismissed and discriminated against for his political beliefs.

    He has brought the claim against Whitehouse Institute and four other individuals including Mr Abbott .

    Must be the weaponisation of education … 🙄

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2014 10:35 am

    KL, re your link from delimiter …

    I tend to agree with the opinion/analyses at the end of the article …

    … however, the sheer size and cost of collection, storage and (I suspect) a legal requirement for backup systems – for the trickle of useful information – would require a very detailed COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS prior to even developing legislation …

    … and of course taking into account all the hardware and software methods to loophole collection of said data …

    And as I keep saying what about snail mail – why are letters exempt? They can carry damning information …

    Either we are at war (with someone?) or not …

  34. egg permalink
    August 9, 2014 10:35 am

    ‘AUSTRALIA needs to prepare for an increasingly savage, 100-year war against radical Islam that will be fought on home soil as well as foreign lands, the former head of the army, Peter Leahy, has warned.

    ‘Professor Leahy, a leading defence and strategic analyst, told The Weekend Australian the country was ill-prepared for the high cost of fighting a war that would be paid in “blood and treasure” and would require pre-emptive as well as reactive action.’

    Nicholson / Oz

  35. egg permalink
    August 9, 2014 11:06 am

    ‘China is not yet a unified great power. This is a humiliation to the Chinese people, a shame to the children of the Yellow Emperor. For the sake of national unification and dignity, China has to fight six wars in the coming fifty years. Some are regional wars; the others may be total wars. No matter what is the nature, each one of them is inevitable for Chinese unification.’

    Indian Defence Relations (IDR)

  36. TB Queensland permalink
    August 9, 2014 4:02 pm

    Indian Defence Relations (IDR)

    Obviously don’t know China;s history

  37. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 9, 2014 4:18 pm

    The new tag –

    ‘WHERE OUTRAGE LIVES’

    IT’S A DISGRACE!!

  38. egg permalink
    August 9, 2014 5:50 pm

    ‘Obviously don’t know China’s history’

    Agreed, just some academic endeavouring to remain relevant in political science. So what do you make of Leahy’s projection?

  39. egg permalink
    August 10, 2014 7:13 am

    ‘A FORMER top criminal defence lawyer and senior prosecutor has reviewed reams of evidence about the AWU slush fund scandal at the ongoing Royal Commission, resulting in his legal opinion that Julia Gillard has problems best resolved by a jury.

    ‘Russell Hanson, QC, who helped run several royal commission-style probes before his retirement, based his detailed review on sworn witness statements and oral testimony at the commission, as well as key documents including Ms Gillard’s exit interview from the law firm Slater & Gordon in 1995.’

    Hedley Thomas / Oz

  40. egg permalink
    August 10, 2014 7:42 am

    ‘THE LIBERAL Party has embraced the unusual political strategy of registering the domain name “Abbott Lies’’ as a website address and redirecting all traffic to Liberal website promoting the May budget.’

    Daily Terror

  41. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2014 12:46 pm

    So what do you make of Leahy’s projection?

    He’s obviously in the Liberal Camp … Tally-ho, chasps*’ an’ all that!

    ‘AUSTRALIA needs to prepare for an increasingly savage, 100-year war against radical Islam that will be fought on home soil as well as foreign lands, the former head of the army, Peter Leahy, has warned.

    Then instead of buying the JSF trashcans they would have been better to expand ASIO, Secret Service, SAS and Commandos …

    Spooks collecting intelligence and covert operations using well trained troops on the ground are the best way to battle insurgency …

    But they would know all that wouldn’t they … ❗

  42. egg permalink
    August 10, 2014 1:22 pm

    No, its not in their interest to give optimistic projections. I agree with you on the JSF debacle, its already out of date and drones are the future.

    ‘Spooks collecting intelligence and covert operations using well trained troops on the ground are the best way to battle insurgency …’

    Yep, in the 21st century there has been a movement away from long standing armies.

  43. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 10, 2014 6:13 pm

    I like “He Died with a Felafel in His Hand” by John Birmingham a (replacing Mike Carlton). Everyone who shared houses would connect with the stories.

    With this pleasant reading experience in mind I thought I’d try one of this other books, and it turned out to be some stupid, alternative universe, unbelievable, stupid, stupid book. Somehow a warship from now finished up in World War2!!

    It was stupid, and I believe he’s written another couple in the same genre.

    If John Birmingham states an opinion, I’ll read it in the context of the range of very stupid books he’s written.

  44. TB Queensland permalink
    August 10, 2014 6:25 pm

    If John Birmingham states an opinion, I’ll read it in the context of the range of very stupid books he’s written.

    Fictional books and factual articles and books are often the domain of very intelligent people …

    Isaac Asimov springs to mind and of course Arthur C. Clarke …

    I just looked him up (had no idea who he was) and I have read the Axis of Time trilogy … a very clever concept … if you like sci-fi …

  45. August 10, 2014 6:27 pm

    I like “He Died with a Felafel in His Hand”

    Me too!

    It was one of Sydney’s longest running plays. And who can forget the infamous bucket bong?

  46. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 10, 2014 6:35 pm

  47. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 10, 2014 6:39 pm

    Yes, how is it that Birmingham could write such a funny book, that connected with (just about) a generation, them turn his hard to writing s series of bullsh*t books that don’t even warrant shelf space in the 2nd hand book section of the op shop?

    When I see an article by him, I just shake my head and skip over it.

  48. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 10, 2014 6:46 pm

    I, on the other hand, quite enjoy his articles!

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/comment/blog/blunt-instrument

  49. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 10, 2014 6:57 pm

    Coach Abbott lacing up the boots again:
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/coach-abbott-lacing-up-the-boots-again-20140808-101v5q.html

  50. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 10, 2014 7:26 pm

    AO, if you’d waded through his alternative universe nonsense, you wouldn’t want to read another word he wrote!

  51. armchair opinionator permalink
    August 10, 2014 7:45 pm

    from little things big things grow

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/misogynist-rants-from-young-libs-20140809-3dfhw.html

  52. August 13, 2014 8:59 pm

    ”””””””””””””stores all metadata for 7 years. And Dog knows how long Google, Facebook et al store it for.

    So does that make it right that the guvmint wants to do it?””””””””””’

    too late for pantywetting Tom-R, most of the `online` stuff we use is backed-up in teh-usa, our main pipe leaves Qld and hits Sth-California, where `nsa/homeland` splice off a copy of everything, gmail/yahoo, google, wordpress, blogger, dumb-fcukbook,

    blubbers is correct, telco`s already retain call-logs for billing purpose, no change there really, and mobile phone is a personal tracker,

    enjoy your freedom

  53. August 13, 2014 9:15 pm

    ””””””””””””””””there were a lot more people more deserving [of a scholarship]”.

    “Even from her class I could name 10 people more deserving either for merit or financial need or both,” he said. He added that he knew of other “more deserving” students who tried to get a scholarship and were rebuffed.

    He also expressed his sadness at Ms Abbott being caught up in the affair.

    “Frances is a lovely person. I don’t want this to be about her but I want this to be about fairness.” Mr Kyriakidis said he leaked to the press because he believed he was a whistle-blower.

    MPs must disclose gifts above $750 that go to dependent children.
    http://m.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/frances-abbotts-teacher-says-she-didnt-deserve-scholarship-20140808-102329.html
    ””””””””””””””””””

    .

    yeah, it funny how everybody else is having to `explain`em selves, but mr-rabbit still isn`t copping the same treatment dished-out to slipper

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    August 14, 2014 6:34 pm

    I just got this via email from Change.org …

    Rip off or rip off … by our state governments?

    As it stands we have already been hit with increase after Increase with our electricty rates & other charges & to add insult to us the consumer they now up the price on the Supply Charge yet again.

    The “daily charge or service fee” has gone up from 55.24 cents a day to 91.69 cents a day.

    Which will result in bill increases of between 9% and 30% depending on kWh usage,” Mr Blanchfield has stated. “For instance, the bill for a single elderly person using only 2000 kWh a year, will increase by more than 20% … a couple with four children using say 8500 kWh a year, their cost will increase by 9%.

    “With the last tariff increase on July 1 2013, this daily supply charge component of our electricity usage, increased by a massive 92% and this latest proposed increase for 1 July 2014 is another massive increase of 66%.”

    Efforts to save money by using less electricity are being thwarted by new price surges of up to 66 per cent for fixed supply charges,

    “Companies are cranking fixed charges to compensate for falling electricity demand to protect revenue and profit margins,” St Vincent de Paul Society energy expert Gavin Dufty said.

    “They also need to pass on the cost of distribution, and government programs such as smart meters and green schemes.”

    By way of explanation I get Change.org emails because I originally signed for the Wicked Camper Van “graffiti” (for wont of better term) … and then I signed for the victims of AAMI (Suncorp/APIA*) who had been seriously injured in a car accident and were carers of children with disabilities …

    * Some of you know my own battle with this organisation!

  55. Walrus permalink
    August 14, 2014 6:42 pm

    “They also need to pass on the cost of distribution, and government programs such as smart meters and green schemes.”

    But TB just think of the one hundredth of a degree you would have changed average temperatures by the end of the next millennium and feel proud.

    Or alternatively buy Origin Energy or Santos shares LOL

  56. August 14, 2014 6:50 pm

    One for TB…

    A Yorkshireman and his wife are out for a night on the town…

    They walk past this posh restaurant, and his wife says “Wow, that smells amazing…”

    Thinking about how much he loves his wife, he thinks to himself, “what the heck, I’ll give her a treat….”

    So they walk past it again.

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    August 14, 2014 6:57 pm

    Thanks, sreb … 🙂

    Could you explain to me what, Wally, is prattling about now? Shouldn’t he be shining his arse on tax returns?

    20% tax across the board and no tax returns … all those non-productive arses actually doing stuff … eg productive …

    But TB just think of the one hundredth of a degree …

    Origin … what a bunch of lying, cheating arseholes they are … just right for a right whinger, CPA*, I’d say …

  58. TB Queensland permalink
    August 14, 2014 6:58 pm

    Oh. that’s a joke? BTW, there are no “posh cafes” in Yorkshire …

    Just like Glaswegia … Jummy!

  59. TB Queensland permalink
    August 14, 2014 7:11 pm

    That dishonour went to Swansea MP Garry Edwards, who followed seven former Liberal colleagues onto the NSW parliament cross benches

    So are these pricks still in Parliament? But resigned from Parliament … or not?

  60. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 14, 2014 10:18 pm

    And for a different point of view.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/fighter-pilots-are-ecstatic-about-the-raafs-next-generation-joint-strike-fighter/story-fncynjr2-1226861468997

    BACK in the late 1960s the aircraft chosen as the nation’s key strike weapon into the new millennium — the F-111 swing-wing fighter/bomber — was derided as the “flying Opera House’’ or the “widow maker” due to cost blowouts, delivery delays and serious technical problems that caused several fatal crashes. ………….Fast forward to 2013 and the RAAF’s next generation strike jet, the F-35 Lightning 2 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) was suffering from an almost identical image problem due to cost blowouts, delivery delays and serious technical problems……………Put simply there is only one other aircraft on the planet with the capabilities of the JSF — its big brother the F-22 Raptor.

  61. egg permalink
    August 15, 2014 7:04 am

    Homo erectus beauty recreated.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/culture/art/2014-08/14/content_18303474.htm

  62. egg permalink
    August 16, 2014 3:46 pm

  63. TB Queensland permalink
    August 16, 2014 7:23 pm

    WHY MONEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PEOPLE

    And Why The Storage of Personal Data Is NOT a Government Right In a Democracy

    Reuters) – Apple Inc (AAPL.O) has begun keeping the personal data of some Chinese users on servers in mainland China, marking the first time the tech giant is storing user data on Chinese soil.

    The storage of user data in China represents a departure from the policies of some technology companies, notably Google Inc (GOOGL.O), which has long refused to build data centres in China due to censorship and privacy concerns.

    Apple said the move was part of an effort to improve the speed and reliability of its iCloud service, which lets users store pictures, e-mail and other data. Positioning data centres as close to customers as possible means faster service.

    The data will be kept on servers provided by China Telecom Corp Ltd (0728.HK), the country’s third-largest wireless carrier, Apple said in a statement on Friday.

    “Apple takes user security and privacy very seriously,” it said. “We have added China Telecom to our list of data centre providers to increase bandwidth and improve performance for our customers in mainland china. All data stored with our providers is encrypted. China Telecom does not have access to the content.”

    A source with knowledge of the situation said the encryption keys for Apple’s data on China Telecom servers would be stored offshore and not made available to China Telecom.

    Apple has said it has devised encryption systems for services such as iMessage that even Apple itself cannot unlock. But some experts expressed scepticism that Apple would be able to withhold user data in the event of a government request.

    “If they’re making out that the data is protected and secure that’s a little disingenuous because if they want to operate a business here, that’d have to comply with demands from the authorities,” said Jeremy Goldkorn, director of Danwei.com, a research firm focused on Chinese media, internet and consumers.

    “On the other hand if they don’t store Chinese user data on a Chinese server they’re basically risking a crackdown from the authorities.”

    Goldkorn added that data stored in the United States is subject to similar U.S. regulations where the government can use court orders to demand private data.

    A spokesman for China Telecom declined to comment.

    GOOGLE, MICROSOFT

    With its rising middle class, China has become an increasingly important market for Apple. Sales of the iPhone rose almost 50 percent in China in the three months ended June and salvaged an otherwise lackluster quarter for the Cupertino company.

    Other companies have opted not to situate servers in China, where they would have to comply with local laws.

    Google publicly abandoned China in 2010 and moved its services, including its search engine, to Hong Kong-based servers after refusing to comply with Chinese government censorship. Microsoft Corp (MSFT.O) also does not have servers for its email service in China.

    Yahoo Inc (YHOO.O) came under criticism in 2005 after it handed to Chinese authorities emails that led to the imprisonment of Shi Tao, a journalist who obtained and leaked an internal censorship order the government had sent Chinese media.

    “China doesn’t want any digital service offered to Chinese people to be hosted offshore,” said Goldkorn. “I suppose it was inevitable that Apple had to comply if they were using foreign servers for Chinese user data.”

    In July, Apple’s iPhone was branded a danger to China’s national security by state media, because of the smartphone’s ability to track and time-stamp user locations. Apple denied tracking user locations.

    Apple has frequently come under fire from Chinese state media, which accused the company of providing user data to U.S. intelligence agencies and have called for ‘severe punishment’.

    The U.S. company has strongly denied working with any government agencies to create back doors into its products or servers. “We have also never allowed access to our servers. And we never will,” Apple has previously stated.

    News of the China Telecom deal emerged Thursday after a local government website in the southeastern province of Fujian announced that iCloud had migrated to China Telecom’s servers after 15 months of rigorous testing and review. The website article is no longer available on the site.

    (Additional reporting by Beijing newsroom; Editing by Ryan Woo and Sophie Walker)

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/15/uk-apple-data-china-idUKKBN0GF0N520140815

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    August 17, 2014 8:23 pm

    ‘China is willing to export technology and equipment to the United States and take part in its upgrading of transport infrastructure, Premier Li Keqiang said on Saturday, when meeting a visiting US delegation.

    “China has made great progress in the construction of transport infrastructure…while continuing to strengthen domestic facilities, we will promote advanced technologies and equipment such as high-speed rail to international market,”Li told Bill Shuster, chairman of the US House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee who led the delegation.

    ‘Previously, Li has helped Chinese companies bid for international rail construction projects in Africa, Europe and Asia.’

    China Daily

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    August 18, 2014 8:11 am

    ‘Prime Minister Tony Abbott has asked the head of the Renewable Energy Target (RET) review, Dick Warburton, to further assess the costs associated with scrapping the scheme in its entirety, in a further sign the Coalition is weighing major changes to the clean power initiative, The Australian Financial Review reports.

    ‘According to the report, Mr Abbott, Treasurer Joe Hockey and Finance Minister Mathias Cormann have frustrated Environment Minister Greg Hunt by excluding him from the discussions.’

    Oz

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    August 18, 2014 8:49 am

    ‘A Brazilian-born Australian man has told how he was denied a job as a barista after a cafe owner told him his customers wouldn’t want their ‘coffee made by black people’.

    ‘Patrons of the Forbes and Burton café in Darlinghurst, inner city Sydney, were stunned to hear Nilson Dos Santos, an Australian citizen, had been turned down for the job because the owner ‘only wanted locals’.

    ‘In incredible scenes, after being told by the cafe owner, who would only give his name as ‘Steven’, that he was not right for the job, Mr Dos Santos, 39, stood up and addressed the other customers at about 1.30pm on Sunday and told them why he had been turned down and asked if they would have a problem being served by a black man.

    ‘In a sign of solidarity, many walked out – and a staff member even quit on the spot.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727063/Sydney-Cafe-owner-admits-told-Australian-citizen-job-black.html#ixzz3AgzKhZC0
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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    August 18, 2014 10:45 am

    This idea has merit and could work here.

    ‘More bungalows should be built for older people to free up bigger homes for families, the new housing minister has declared.

    ‘The move would allow couples still living in large properties after their children have left home to downsize without being forced into a ‘retirement home’ or apartment.

    ‘And it would put more large homes on the market for couples with children who need the extra space.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2727363/We-learn-love-quintessentially-British-bungalow-want-solve-housing-crisis-says-minister.html#ixzz3AhSOn4Fd
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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    August 19, 2014 5:33 pm

    ‘A 4.5-metre half-albino crocodile nicknamed ‘Michael Jackson’ has been shot after killing a fisherman on the Adelaide River.’

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    August 21, 2014 1:31 pm

    Jonathan Green has a strange piece in the Drum. It is a list of factoids designed to quicken the pulse of bleeding hearts everywhere.

    It is hard to know what to make Jonathan’s list, but if you want to know why the Greens do so well in Tasmania, wonder no more – “Half of all Tasmanians aged 15 to 74 are functionally illiterate.”

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