Tony Abbott Blames Labor for Making Bribery Illegal
In the wake of the resignation of two NSW Liberal MPs over corruption allegations, the prime minister has said the “problem” was the former Labor NSW government banning property developer donations in the first place.
Hunter Valley MPs Tim Owen and Andrew Cornwall stepped down from parliament last week over revelations at the Independent Commission Against Corruption (Icac) they accepted money from property developer Jeff McCloy. Donations from property developers were illegal at the time.
Questioned on talkback radio about the damage the revelations were doing to the Liberal party, Tony Abbott said: “The problem was that the former state Labor government, because of a predicament it found itself in, introduced laws banning donations from developers.”
“Who exactly is a developer? That can sometimes be a difficult question. [They] also introduced legislation to limit the total amount of donations and political parties need to raise money,” he told 2GB on Monday morning.
“I think it’s right that political parties have to go to the public and seek support that way rather than just being able to rely solely on the taxpayer. And plainly, some people have cut corners. It’s quite possible some people have broken the law and if that’s the case, whatever party they’re in, they should face the consequences.”
Abbott said the revelations of Icac were a “very bad look” but he and the premier, Mike Baird, wanted to clean up the NSW Liberal party.
“I think this whole question of donations does need to be looked at again, but in terms of the Liberal party itself, what we need to do is to ensure that it belongs to its members, not to factions,” he said.
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Well, after spending an hour with an endodontist this morning and paying $2,500 for the privilege … this actually just made me laugh!
Abbott’s mind must be as twisty and turny as a Scottish country road!
Sick? Mad? Corrupt? Or just incompetent … take yer pick … any one of those would get him fired in my workplace … is there no LNP members with any guts?
What he said is technically correct, if you make something illegal in one state then monies will cross the border.
This is a couple of years old….
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/property/nsw-developers-donations-flow-over-border/story-fn9656lz-1226260028143
What he said is technically correct
er, grodo, tabot didn’t mention about it going interstate. Nice try at obfuscation though 😉
What the tweet said is technically correct however.
“Who exactly is a developer?
How the hell did we end up with such a friggin idiot as PM?
Oh yea, a partisan media, that’s right.
I note he is also somehow blaming Essendons woes on Labor. Really, does this dufus have no fucking idea AT ALL
The so-called blackest day in Australian sport was really a black day for Australian politics, Tony Abbott has said.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/18/blackest-day-in-australian-sport-really-a-black-day-for-labor-says-tony-abbott
Yea, don’t blame the club who cheated.
All i can say to that tomR is fuck! Abbott is a laughing stock. 10/10 for stupidity and PPP [pointless partisan politics. Do we just sit back and wait until he’s reefed off the stage by the giant hook? Will be great sport to look forward to!
Do they realise the voters are on to them? It’s been almost a year since the election, they were in hiding for a couple of months while the IPA wrote all their policy under the guise of ‘audit’ [a con the public is well and truly sick to death of] and since then it’s been like dad’s army or hogan’s heroes with a bit of keystone cops thrown in!
The tired old ‘it was labor wot done it’ isn’t going well in qld and it won’t go down well federally.
I do hope that snacty was watching 4 corners on GBR tonight!
“I note he is also somehow blaming Essendons woes on Labor”
Yep. Gillard used ASADA for political purposes. The whole thing appeared to be some gillard media stunt.
As usual Abbott is right.
(Yes, Dope-y, Abbott is always right. Independent-minded persons can’t just overlook Gillard or Abbott or whoever, and move on to the pure entertainment of why Lance Armstronging athletes is the past, present, and future of Australian Sport. Likeways, citizens mustn’t dwell too much on why ‘you give me the cash, and I’ll give you….’ might or might not be the ideal of/for liberal democratic function at any or all levels of Government.)
Was there any evidence of doping? This whole thing has the smell of politics.
As usual we have an idiot apologising for an idiot. I guess that a fucking imbecile like Abbott will never understand the level of corruption that is deeply entrenched in the big business supporting drug cheats in our sporting codes, much less developers grafting for favors.
What sort of fuckwit would stick up for this appalling international embarrassment?
There was plenty….
AFL, NRL and Cycling do your fucking homework dickhead,
Injections, supplements, recreational drugs…
Clowns like Hadley and Maguire were calling it a political witchhunt all the while Clubs like Cronulla were getting away with blue murder, The testing regime is a joke and whist people bet on sport it will remain to be so.
The whole thing appeared to be some gillard media stunt.
Yes, Gillard arranged for essendon and the nrl club to dope their players up all so that …….?
If Gillard wanted a distraction, all she needed to do was change hairstyle or wear different earings. The media would have been all over that.
jesus, the blind stupidity of people.
It is interesting however that essendons defense is not one of innocence, but process. That alone tells a lot.
Well i have not been following this doping in Australian sport topic. Do you have a link showing where doping has occurred?
Supplements are not doping. Lance Armstrong did doping. Did they take performance enhancing drugs or did they take things which could aid in recovery of injuries?
“How the hell did we end up with such a friggin idiot as PM?
Oh yea, a partisan media, that’s right.”
The reason Abbott was elected was the utter disfunctionality of the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd governments. The problem is that by any measure the Abbott government is no better. This makes it easy to spot the trolls. The supported one of the above and condemned the other.
catch up time nil 😉
Of course, not following something didn’t prevent you from jumping to a conclusion that it was all a plot by Gillard did it 😆
Click to access EssendonFC-notice-of-charges.pdf
utter disfunctionality of the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd governments.
What “disfunctionality” exactly? Parliament ran smoothly enough when abbott wasn’t attempting to tear down everything. Legislation was being passed and administered within the confines of a completely obstructionist oppposition and militant media who misreported on almost every topic.
So, what “disfunctionality” exactly?
NBN, Gonski, low inflation, low unemployment, comparatively low government debt and record levels of investment, all in the wake of the GFC, Carbon Price, PPL (a real one), and record increases for pensioners and improvements in working conditions for lower paid workers under the Fair Work Act.
You want “disfunctionality”, look at the current gubmint. What month is this, and where is their budget? ROFL
“So, what “disfunctionality” exactly?”
Fuck off, troll.
Not fucking off moll 🙂
Has there ever been a government like Australia’s? One more prone to gaffes and stumbles, mind melts and the utterance of utter inanities and idiocies; one more arrogant, asinine and absurd?
http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/the-abbott-gaffernment,6786
This is hilarious, Emerson calling bolt what he is to his face, and backed up with a reasoned argument.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/aug/18/craig-emerson-calls-andrew-bolt-a-racist-video
“There was plenty….
AFL, NRL and Cycling do your fucking homework dickhead,””
So why were the heads of Cricket and Soccer there ?
Excellent news
An inefficient gigantic wind farm abandoned.
What a great start to the day.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/solar-farm-abandoned-amid-uncertainty-over-renewable-energy-target-20140818-105en6.html
Solar farm abandoned amid uncertainty over renewable energy target
Chaotic, shambles of a gubmint 🙂
“Of course, not following something didn’t prevent you from jumping to a conclusion that it was all a plot by Gillard did it”
Well it smells like a plot to me. But as a cop out i have to say i have no time to study the issue. But the whole thing smells funny. This is an interesting point
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/sharks-told-to-stand-firm-until-outcome-of-essendon-case/story-fnca0von-1227028647036
“CURRENT and former Cronulla players have been urged to reject any offer of reduced suspensions from the NRL …………………..Regardless, Hardie believes it would be foolhardy of the players to strike a deal with the NRL before the Essendon case has been determined.
“If they (ASADA) are so certain of their case, why are they making offers,” said Hardie, a lecturer in law at Deakin University.
“If the Essendon case finds the investigation was unlawful, all the Cronulla players have to do is say look at that, go away.”
Good point. If the case is clear cut why is ASADA offering a reduced sentence if they confess? Sounds like they don’t have enough evidence.
“Chaotic, shambles of a gubmint ”
What………………stopping a wasteful solar plant can hardly be called bad government
stopping a wasteful solar plant
Are you able to define your interpretation of “wasteful”?
Personally, I find it difficult to believe that power that, once the initial cost is recouped, becomes close to 100% profit, could be described as “wasteful”?
I’m sure you can elaborate for me.
“……….it was all a plot by Gillard did it”
It certainly was a plot by members of the Gillard government. Its announcement was on the eve of Craig Thomson’s first court appearance in Melbourne and it was the first time I understand that the Australian Crimes Commission had appeared in a Press Conference to announce an investigation plus just 2 fucking clubs have ended up being involved in it all.
Blackest Day in Australian sport is just out and out BULLSHIT
And Jason Claire doesn’t even like talking about it these days.
Divide the capital cost of $420M by 30,000 homes then also remember the capital cost will need to be replaced probably every 10 years.
And we haven’t even got to the overheads
If it was so efficient it would not need government subsidies and private equity would be clamouring to get on board. They are not
Then there would be no need to shelve it. Its a parasitic industry
Its announcement was on the eve of Craig Thomson’s first court appearance in Melbourne
Its announcement was the day after Essendon got wind of it and came out.
capital cost will need to be replaced probably every 10 years.
You got a link for that?
http://pureenergies.com/us/how-solar-works/how-long-do-solar-panels-last/
If the case is clear cut why is ASADA offering a reduced sentence if they confess?
😯
Simpleton………………………….its not just the panels
And if its sooooooooooooooooooooooooo fantastic then why do they need subsidies ?
Simpleton………………………….its not just the panels
No, but they do make up a large part of the capital cost.
capital cost will need to be replaced probably every 10 years.
“”Its announcement was the day after Essendon got wind of it and came out.””
And what does that have to do with Cricket and Soccer………………………?
I note that no one wants to tell me why they were dragged into it
then why do they need subsidies ?
One could ask the same of the fossil fuel companies. Why do they?
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/southern-crossroads/2014/feb/02/fossil-fuel-subsidies-tony-abbott-spc-ardmona-corporate-welfare
I note that no one wants to tell me why they were dragged into it
Maybe you should ask them? Perhaps it was to support the stance on drugs, while giving them the opportunity to declare their sports were drug free.
“”Maybe you should ask them?””
No no no……………………..they were specifically summoned
So why were the heads of Cricket and Soccer there ?
Sorry I forgot them….
Doping is rife in sport…It has been for years. We only stared testing in reality about 10 years ago. As soon as something is detected a masking agent is counter invented. Supplements are performance enhancing and illegal, problem is identifying them..\Get this through your thick fucking heads….
Legal challenges or not Cronulla and essington are just the tip of the iceberg who got caught. Put 2 + 2 together… people gamble on sport.
Political exercise? Bravery in taking these cheating fuckers on.
Walrus? Inefficient? Sorry you are Wrong… You want inefficient..Coal epitomises inefficient. Obviously you don’t know much about wind tech….
GE and Siemens are in heavy development of Wind..have been for years.
http://www.gizmag.com/invelox-wind-generator/27377/
http://www.treehugger.com/wind-technology/new-bladeless-wind-turbine-claimed-be-twice-efficient-conventional-designs.html
Fucking Nutcase…..
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/clive-palmer-blasts-china-on-qa-20140819-3dx15.html
“”Obviously you don’t know much about wind tech….””
I know enough to know if they are so efficient they don’t need a subsidy just to get off the ground
I’ve met Clive……………………….yes he is rather strange
And I don’t believe he is anywhere near as wealthy as he claims
Walrus most of his “wealth” is a piece of paper that says….
somewhere out in that vast paddock you have leased, if you dig a rather expensive hole using borrowed funds you may get a return in the future…
What you don’t think Coal fired power stations got massive subsidies to be built? Wind is way cheaper.
“What you don’t think Coal fired power stations got massive subsidies to be built? “”
Well if they did then we should use them until they become uneconomic. And that is determined by the Owners.
And that’s even if they got a “massive subsidy” in the first place
And that is determined by the Owners.
Like we should trust them?
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/2014-04-27/5406022
they were specifically summoned
I thought it was because they were all members of the Coalition of Major Professional and Participation Sports who were directly impacted by the increased powers the then Sports Minister gave ASADA
But that’s just me 😉
Chaotic, shambles of a gubmint
The Coalition came to government last year with no substantive plan for the economy.
It seems obvious now but the raft of promises for a “stronger economy” and “fixing the budget mess” were mere platitudes with no policy substance behind them.
The proof of this cluelessness shows up in the fact that after 11 months in office, the budget bottom line has worsened as a result of government policy decisions and the economic growth outlook has deteriorated to a point where the unemployment rate has already exceeded the downbeat forecasts in Treasurer Hockey’s Mid-Year Economic and Fiscal Outlook.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/18/clueless-coalition-floundering-while-budget-bottom-line-worsens?CMP=twt_gu
Kick a hockey day
Joe Hockey’s fuel gaffe may see him excised from big policy debates
Treasurer’s failure to sell petrol excise changes does not inspire confidence in his role in other key issues, such as GST changes
http://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2014/aug/18/joe-hockeys-fuel-gaffe-may-see-him-excised-from-big-policy-debates
So where was Netball and Tennis then ?
Or did they have nothing to worry about like Rugby, Soccer and Cricket.
But hey we needed a BIG headline to push Thommo off the front pages for the next few days. So they just stuck to the really big guns like the 4 football codes and Cricket
Don’t want to dilute the Drama with others
So yesterday Melbourne was found to be the friendliest city in the world, today another accolade – the most liveable city in the world, for the 4th consecutive year!
SUCK IT UP NORTHERNERS!!
http://www.theage.com.au/travel/travel-planning/travel-news/melbourne-is-the-worlds-most-liveable-city-again-20140819-105nyc.html
I must say it is probably the friendliest.
Quite a few times I have driven through St Kilda heading towards a mate’s place and been amazed at how many women on the very edge of the footpath wave to me smiling
“SUCK IT UP NORTHERNERS!!”
HEAR HEAR!!!
Well enjoy it whilst you can because we are about to be taken over……….
http://www.news.com.au/national/clive-palmer-goes-on-rant-against-china-on-qa-claims-china-govt-are-mongrels-who-kill-their-own-people-and-want-to-take-over-australia/story-fncynjr2-1227028723134
But hey we needed a BIG headline
Yep, so it had nothing to do with essendon apparently “coming clean” a day or two before, did it?
the most liveable city in the world
Not sure how reliable that one is yomm. Adelaide 5th?
A couple of classics
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/alan-moir-20090907-fdxk.html
‘….on the very edge of the footpath wave to me smiling’
You have a way with words, lively, colourful and dry.
Yes, Adelaide 5th? I didn’t realise Adelaide qualified as a city.
…and Sydney 7th, the judges mustn’t have travelled further west than Haberfield.
Unsurprisingly, Canberra, Perth and Brisbane are not judged as either livable or friendly.
Is Canberra even a place….?
That’s a good question.
I suppose Canberra is a place in much the same way a stagnant, leech infested swamp is a place.
But then, Canberra is within a 3 or 4 hour drive of civilised places, which is close enough.
Clive will win some votes with that rant!
The spoiler seems to have the political players and their media megaphones very upset, they try to attack him but all it does is give him more attention 🙂
Yes Walrus you need to be on drugs like Tommo to even contemplate playing Netball and Tennis
Yes, Adelaide 5th? I didn’t realise Adelaide qualified as a city.Unsurprisingly, Canberra, Perth and Brisbane are not judged as either livable or friendly.
But on the balance of probabilities it does demonstrate a limited competence at the least or a personal bias in the extreme …
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Clive will win some votes with that rant!
I agree! KL, I watched that part of the show (with slim pickin’s anywhere else!) and quite frankly Clivey was needled by his “mate” 😉 Tony Jones …
What a pathetic performance by Warren Truss … and we pay him to waffle nonsense – almost an Abetz clone …
“… the least or a personal bias in the extreme … ”
Or the Liberal Party paid for the results!!!
This is gold!
“Sloppy Joe Backs Away from Apology, Uses Boat Metaphor To Ram Home Point”
https://newmatilda.com/2014/08/19/sloppy-joe-backs-away-apology-uses-boat-metaphor-ram-home-point
Yes Walrus you need to be on drugs like Tommo to even contemplate playing Netball and Tennis
So many look over theres in this thread … wonder how many shares in coal generated power stations, Wally, has? Locating it, lending to it, digging it up, transporting it, burning it, exporting it … so many ways to earn a quid! Continuously …
“Sloppy Joe Backs Away from Apology, Uses Boat Metaphor To Ram Home Point”
How deep is that fkn hole going to get?
If they keep this shite up for another two years (and there’s no obvious reason they won’t) then they won’t need a leader they’ll need to stat a new party … Sir Noddy and most of the Nitwits will be looking for a new roost …
“” … wonder how many shares in coal generated power stations, Wally, has? “”
None actually………………………but BHP Billiton have just announced their annual results
Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !
“Locating it, lending to it, digging it up, transporting it, burning it, exporting it … ”
Almost all those bases covered.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm………..good idea…………….might have to buy some shares in a Uranium Disposal Corporation then even “Burying it again” would be covered
Of course they have to blame Labor. Who else could they blame ?
Well,,,, I guess there’s the Greens,,, but who would believe that,,,, I mean,,, the Greens????
Then there’s always the PUP. Hmmm…. I’m not sure they would accept the blame. Probably claim that “blame” was not a pre election promise.
This leaves a gaggle of independents / very minor parties, non of which are big enough to do the heavy lifting required to carry the blame.
So,,,, there’s no choice, it’s obvious, Labor is to blame,,,,,, unless they can “outsource” the blame to some overseas entity,,,, such as The Union of San Francisco Street Sweepers, or the South Christchurch Hotel Senior Darts Team, or the Parisian Guild of Artists Brush Designers, or . . . .
Mind you, it does get very busy in the blame department.
Cartoon refers . . . . .
http://cartoonmick.wordpress.com/editorial-political/#jp-carousel-882
Cheers
Mick
Almost all those bases covered.
Like I said, Sir Walter, so-o-o-o predictable a true tory … don’t change anything – I’m making a fkn fortune … progress will damage my profiteering!
Explains all your ranting against renewables …
“Explains all your ranting against renewables …”
Perhaps if they were actually profitable (without subsidies) and did not impose additional costs upon those of lower income I’d change my mind rather than be like you sitting there real smug because the poorer are subsidising your lifestyle.
“but BHP Billiton have just announced their annual results
Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !”
Quite so. 😉
(NYSE opens in 2 hours 40 minutes. Should be interesting.)
They’re not buying it….
Wally what shit you talk.. My brother and mate all have solar and pay no power bills. The poor subsidising his lifestyle.. what a lot of Long bow middle class wankery you fester… 🙄
I prefer Roger Corman to Mathius.. far more believable. Then again not many detractors at the Gerard henderson personal appreciation society… fiberal propaganda divisional office.
http://m.smh.com.au/national/mathias-cormann-stokes-debt-fears-in-attempt-to-transform-budget-debate-20140819-105z17.html
(For Certain; forbidden corporate cash sources will continue to flow to the Teabags no-matter how much pr-response, retort, reply says otherwise and; oh-snacky will avoid Lands-with-four-corners while; imbeciles without long-term supply contracts will continue to blubber about off-grid power users; even tho the off-grid view is partially blocked to the blubberers by corporate pubic hair.)
Ricky, your reporting on the institute is `lacking`,
please `update` your information
http://gibbot.wordpress.com/2012/10/31/a-day-in-the-life-of-gerald-hindrance-soldier-of-truth/
Catlicks keep their buggery top secret. Maybe they are waiting for a personal reference from a failed priest pretending to be leader of the free world.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/vatican-refuses-to-hand-over-files-on-accused-pedophile-priests-20140821-106zg5.html
Duly noted Teabag….