Verdict Imminent in Oscar Pistorius Trial
Oscar Pistorius will soon find out whether he’s been found guilty of the premeditated murder of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp on Valentine’s Day last year.
Judge Thokozile Masipa is set to deliver her verdict at the high court in Pretoria, South Africa’s capital, after a 41-day trial that started March 3.
While the prosecution argues that Pistorius deliberately fired four hollow-point bullets at Steenkamp in a bathroom at his home after an argument, the defense says he mistook her for an intruder, and her death was a “huge, unfortunate mistake.”
Masipa can either acquit Pistorius or hand down one of three guilty verdicts: premeditated murder, murder in the second degree or culpable homicide, which is the negligent unlawful killing of a person.
More to come…
Live streaming of verdict from 5:00pm here…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/oscar-pistorius/10668819/Watch-live-Oscar-Pistorius-murder-trial-verdict.html
I heard it could take 2 days for her to complete her address
The Age has a live stream too…
http://media.theage.com.au/news/world-news/live-oscar-pistorius-trial-verdict-5745503.html
It looks like he’s going to get off…
http://www.news.com.au/world/oscar-pistorius-verdict-guilty-or-innocent/story-fndir2ev-1227055553622
Wow, he got off
After seeing the masses of evidence against him that was presented for us, repeatedly, over and over, in explicit detail, on our nightly “horror movie”‘s , I didn’t think he’d have a leg to stand on! 🙂
Mind you, I reckon he’d have a spring in his step this morning
(both the above stolen from their original source)
I think he might get manslaughter.
No-one shoots 4 bullets into someone ‘accidentally’ surely?
No-one shoots 4 bullets into someone ‘accidentally’ surely?
If I believed there was someone in my house, I would check to see where The Minister was (ie with me in bed!) then call 000 … and I if had a weapon I would then give two warnings …
Its the first step that I could never understand … don’t you check to see your partner is safe FIRST?
I can understand someone firing four shots in a panic … but as I understand it he was quite familiar with firearms … it did seem that he was aggressive rather than protective …
I also believe “culpable homicide” has a fifteen year sentence … not exactly “getting off” …
And as I said to The Minister last night … (and TR, hinted at above) … none of us have had the benefit of hearing and seeing ALL the evidence …
” none of us have had the benefit of hearing and seeing ALL the evidence …”
Yes, but that’s never stopped us from passing sentence before, and rightly so!!
Guilty!
HANG HIM!
… but that’s never stopped us …
That’s a royal we, I take it? Or a Geordie, us? (Watched George G again last night 🙂 )
“Watched George G again last night”
Aaargle! Was it a repeat? How come I missed it?
Just sent you an email BTW…
don’t panic … repeat …
Gotta go out – noice BTW …
Now that we know it’s culpable homicide, does that allow steenkamp’s family to sue him for any kind of compensation?
… does that allow steenkamp’s family to sue him for any kind of compensation?
Well, assuming … repeat assuming … that SA law is (as our is) based upon Common Law foundations … yes …
Criminal cases are based on the premise of “beyond reasonable doubt” …
Tort (civil wrongdoing) is based upon the concept of “the balance of probability” …
I would suspect that a civil case against Pistorius may actually be difficult … but possible …
Since my wins against the Commonwealth/ADF, Axminster carpets, APIA (and a few minor issues) … my kids want me to study fkn law! I keep reminding them that I’m retired!
In other words – KL … as The Minister, says, “… he’s just a Bush Lawyer … ” I should add that the my love of my life adds … “but a bloody good one”
OK, on my second WT – hic – and soda -hic -BTW that’s only on Fridays … these days … gotta keep that 10kgs off!
(I keep reminding them that I’m retired!
Excuses, excuses: Oldest uni grad, 97, beats own record as he earns fourth degree )
I find this article interesting and i’m inclined to agree.
Pistorius has ‘literally’ [whatever that means] got away with murder.
Oscar Pistorius and Reeva Steenkamp’s relationship was far from ‘normal’
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/12/oscar-pistorius-reeva-steenkamp-murder-normal-relationship
this run of comments is quite funny
IonaForrest
12 September 2014 7:36pm
A suspended sentence is appropriate. Oscar has suffered enough.
Pagey IonaForrest
12 September 2014 7:38pm
I’m not as certain as you are. He’s still alive.
pipeman IonaForrest
12 September 2014 8:04pm
Reeva Steenkamp’s family might well – quite justifiably – disagree.
moretsu IonaForrest
12 September 2014 8:14pm
If he’s imprisoned will you write to him and propose?
smuglyfrombrazil IonaForrest
12 September 2014 8:26pm
Would your parents agree with that sentiment if had been shot four times through a door by a gun-happy, volatile boyfriend?
MasalBugduv IonaForrest
12 September 2014 8:58pm
@Oscar has suffered enough – I know. The jokes on sickipedia about him are just terrible.
jagara1 IonaForrest
12 September 2014 9:48pm
Hardly, judging by the smirk on his face as he was leaving court today.
He seems to have made a good show of vomiting and drizzling snot while he ‘cries’, which doesn’t fool some of us.
Oakhorn pipeman
12 September 2014 10:13pm
“Reeva Steenkamp’s family might well – quite justifiably – disagree.”
Yes, but we don’t leave justice to victim’s families for a damn good reason…
Imhavingafag IonaForrest
12 September 2014 10:17pm
Whatever you say, Mrs Pistorius…
(If I were chancing a lay comment, I’d almost suspect that the judge has opted for a ‘sound’ decision on a solid foundation of ascertained ‘fact’ and essential law. If and how guilty (mens rea) was Pistorius? Subjectively, not as much as if his actions (actus rea) had been adjudged purely objectively. It’s Oscar’s microcosmic reward for be(hav)ing irrational(ly): not murder per se, nor innocence, either; and that loop-y-ness does rebound on him; as contra law, and as general-criminal and unappealing-personal culpability for unlawful killing. Did he ‘get away with ‘it’? Literally, yes and no, and no; he was heard, and heard very well, if I understand the emphatically ‘subjective’ turn of phrasing and reasoning, and still found wanting considerably. Perhaps.)
Excuses, excuses:
Chuckle 🙂 and I’d never get to read/comment here …
And …
If I were chancing a lay comment
What M said …