Rostrum: Special Tony Abbott Appreciation Day Edition!

Enjoyed that post reb, you have accurately described tony’s fears.
We do hate him for all that he is and all that he does, i can understand that people want to bomb parliament and kill him. I feel that way myself at times.

I feel that way myself at times.

Careful ao, they’ll be knocking at your door soon with thoughts like those 😯

It’s all in the context I guess

Australia’s ‘humanitarian mission’ in Iraq includes troops and Super Hornets. It comes just months after our aid budget to the troubled nation was cut to zero. Max Chalmers reports.

https://newmatilda.com/2014/09/18/tony-abbott-ended-aid-iraq-months-calling-humanitarian-intervention

A story with plenty of “but, they could, they miight have,…. I reckin they did…..!” But essentially a story about nothing, except perpetuating the smear that the royal collision is all about. The gubamint and murdor working in collusion to smear their ideological opponents. And all in the name of “free speech (free reign more like it).

Should “the oz” be renamed The Seinfeld?

POLICE say the building industry needs a “fit and proper person” test to stamp out criminality, as they dumped explosive claims in the royal commission investigating trade union governance yesterday that union officials have links to organised crime and use bikie gangs to intimidate and collect debts.

However, Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union barrister John Agius SC forced Victoria Police crime chief ­Stephen Fontana to admit the one example he had raised of a union-aligned bikie was a non-financial CFMEU member.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/industrial-relations/top-cop-stephen-fontana-of-victoria-police-firm-on-union-bikie-links/story-fn59noo3-1227063353935

Funnily enough, the oz got their bolding the wrong way round. They bolded the wishful thinking, but then left the actual facts in the sub of the story. Like this gem down near the bottom

He also clarified under oath that union offici­als were not involved in drug-trafficking and no union official had been charged with blackmail or extortion offences.

Yet the whole story is fucking well about those claims! Dickwads!

If the police planned a raid on a dozen bikie houses, there would be plenty of police, plenty of media coverage and plenty of politicians announcing a “strong on crime” policy.

It’s almost as if you seem to be implying that makes it right?

It’s also surprising they haven’t been able to link the Unions with them (yet)

I’d feel a lot better if there wasn’t such a long pattern of behaviour though

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/seeking-calm-amid-violence-fear-and-outrage-20140918-10iwud.html

I’m pointing out that the reporting is no more sensationalist or politically motivated than if it was ‘bikiephobic’

The coverage of a police raid of a Hells Angels clubhouse has been similar. I’ll have to find the link to a raid in Coburg that involved a hundred police.

…and given that many of these ‘freedom fighters’ have a history of violence, drug dealing and welfare benefits, the reporting seems pretty balanced.

In a huge show of force, more than 700 officers, including federal police, carried out around 60 raids on bikie clubhouses and other properties, including in the regional centres of Bendigo and Ballarat.

So over 700 police raided the Hells Angels around Melbourne, and 800 raid properties of people planning a thrill kill/terror spectacle/beheading around Sydney.

Does anyone really think that the police should enter dangerous situations undermanned and unobtrusively?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-10/melbourne-police-raid-motorcycle-gang-clubhouses/5013092

Yep, the libs, their royal conniptions, and murdor, it’s like a giant, corrupt, human centipede

better late than never, but job done.

Politicians of any complexion will stand next to the police at press conferences following such activities

I recall two such politicians standing next to ASADA a while back. Didn’t they get hammered for that. I wonder when the apologese will begin?

Mind you, that was a pretty different scenario to what we have here.

A gubamint languishing
A budget floundering
WAR is announced
TERROR is heightened.
Our man of action is across it all (and even has to break ANOTHER pledge) to take control of ……what has previously (well, the past few years anyway) been done with little fanfare.

Like you said, the BIG announcements were for Bikie busts and ex union officials.

Don’t mind me if I smell a rat.

but I don’t recall any pollies browbeating the fear of Beelzebub into us at every opportunity …

Not since howie anyway

“”… the second lot have been accused of planning a beheading (wouldn’t call it a thrill kill exactly) but as yet I’ve not seen any evidence of that …””

If you actually bothered to keep up you’d find that the Crown Prosecutor stated yesterday in opposing bail that the Crown had phone recordings of the planning of the killing.

I suppose you reckon he’s perjuring himself ?

The extreme Left that you love so dearly just love Islam…………you really can relate to it.

And what happened to the match fixing ?

Lets not re-write history here shall we

AUSTRALIA’S top sporting codes have been rocked by revelations that organised crime is behind the increasing use of banned performance-enhancing drugs by ”multiple athletes” across sporting codes and possible attempts to fix matches and manipulate betting markets.

Police are pursuing evidence that some coaches, sports scientists and support staff at clubs have orchestrated or condoned the use of banned drugs and that organised crime figures distributed the drugs.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/this-is-the-blackest-day-in-australian-sport-20130207-2e1i3.html

I wonder what it could all be calculated to distract us from?

It’s truly a mystery to me

Possibly one of the most ridiculous retorts I’ve read here.

Speaking of which, whatever did happen to snacty? 🙂

on the same day

The Thickens plot

#NTTAWWT

Thinking of an age old dream, places I have never seen,
Fantasies lived times before.
I split my brain, melt through the floor.

Over clouds my mind will fly, forever now I can’t think why.
My body tries to leave my soul.
Or is it me, I just don’t know.
Memories rising from the past, the future’s shadow overcast.
Something’s clutching at my head, through the darkness I’ll be led.

“Possibly one of the most ridiculous retorts I’ve read here.”

As opposed to your monumentally stupid rants about religion which seem to pervade every one of your posts in one way or another

Do go fuck yourself

that’s fear mongering and a stunt …by the politicians(!!)

Actually yomm, they are both the same (as I said above).

Police actions that are

being used by the police, in order to increase their powers

and being used by politicians for their own purposes.

Both are bullshit.

“Have you read IvIeta’s link YomM?

No, I don’t get around to clicking on everything. Which one?

Please let’s retain some standards…

“Ricky If you believe he can pull that off then your stoopid too !”

I think you mean “you’re”

“I think you mean “you’re”….”

Mmmmmmmm

I think I was still in shock at how easy the Swans won and let my impeccable standards drop

Ricky

Who said ISIL represents the Islamic community. I think I made myself clear about extremist Islam.

(I still reckon the KGB should be given any and every new power they ask for next week; they’ve earned them this week; by saving all of us from every person with a phone, and from any conspiracy-minded person with a high level plan and an (un)specific intent which could be acted on within days; in fact, I reckon we should guillotine debate now, and just do it.)

rebs a nobody, rebs a nobody 🙂

If they are sending 800 special ops cops out on assumptions, they’ve got way too much money in their budget!

And they want more, not just money, but powers too. Is this what the main game is in the short term (for the security agencies anyway). I think it is apparent what the gubamints tactic is (budget emergency, what budget emergency?)

STEVE CANNANE: Greg, the government is about to bring in or attempt to bring in new anti-terror laws, one section of the new laws provides immunity from liability for participants in special intelligence operations. What’s your reading of that clause? There’s been concerns that that could green light torture. The Attorney-General says there’s no way that is the case?

That means, for example, that ASIO could keep a person in conditions of torture which, for example, include solitary confinement for a period of weeks and not physically assault them. They obviously don’t murder them and obviously don’t rape them but they keep that person in a position where they break.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s4091568.htm

I suppose we’ll see what the actual evidence is.

When it comes to violence, rape and murder, I’m quite intolerant of those making the plans. The excuse provided in a previous thread, that those planning violence were just bonding (or something), doesn’t provide any comfort (to me).

If a group of zealots are discussing murder, that’s making plans, and deploying lots of police to disrupt their bonding sessions is fine with me.

• Rapists – abrogate their rights to live unmonitored
• Murderers – ditto
• Bonding through planning murder – heavy handed suppression is fine too

“…I guess you’ll be just as vehement when the swat team kicks down ao’s door for her comment further up the thread. :?:…”

That’s what I mean it’s a fascist control by the state and oppression of free speech, completely open to people maliciously dobbing others in for innocent “chatter”, more in line with China.
My mum always expresses a desire to get a gun and shoot Howard and Abbott – that’s terrorism now?

Call me naïve

OK, you’re naïve 🙂

Be afraid kitty, be very afraid

Not too much mention being made

I’m hoping you’re referring to the msm there toilet 😉

Made extra sweet by seeing portscum ejected from the finals just now.

I should be happy, but, after the last few years they’ve had, I was just glad to see them coming good. And I’m not even going to mention the Crows. See!

Snacty’s probably hiding in his bomb shelter

😆

Stupid fucking warmongering partisan dipshits.

When even hartchers onto you, I reckon even that case is lost to ’em.

The prime minister properly assured us not to change our behaviour in response to the threat of terrorism, but then went on to give us a good old scare anyway: “It is a serious situation when all you need to carry out a terrorist attack is to have a knife, an iPhone and a victim.”

It’s not that he’s incorrect, it’s the fact that he’s supposed to be the man ultimately responsible for national security, not insecurity. The terrorists trade on fear – that’s why they’re called terrorists.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/terror-raids-perspective-is-always-the-hardest-thing-to-find-20140919-10j76p.html

I meant, by those soiling themselves in ‘terror’,

So, most Crows supporters until the final whistle then 😉

l Love the smell of Napalm in the morning.

lt smells Like.

Victory.

#TeamAustralia

”””emaciated terror cow being milked for all it’s worth””” 🙂

doing all they can to elevate the pantie wetting thru the

wetness-scale, moist, damp, wet, soaking and saturated

#mr-rabbit and friends are at the `saturated` level,

#and teabag-media are at wet to soaking,

#while the general population seem to be at moist to damp

#teabagPanic

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/04/media-challenging-arguments-war-baying-blood/

yeah dunny, l agree on the over-hyping/pantie-wetting aspect,

another large part is the terror-fear-ists are successfully baiting team-stupid into another disaster they cannot win, or even break-even

this will start as an unlimited cash-bonfire, and mission-creep into a long-term blood-bath #teabags

I was also surprised and more than a little disappointed to hear that Labor had given bi-partisan support for the new tewwa laws being proposed under the cover of the latest “terror emergency”. Luckily, was Labor

A spokeswoman for Mr Dreyfus said the Opposition had been surprised to hear that bipartisan agreement had been secured before Labor had seen the foreign fighters bill.

“It would be negligent of us to give blanket support for something we haven’t seen. We have internal processes to follow,” she said.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/labor-demands-detail-on-foreign-fighters-bill-before-pledging-support-20140921-10k114.html

First the budget emergency, now a tewwa one. I the distinct feeling that this mob has cried wolf once (or twice) too often to be taken too seriously.

Sure, their is a problem with ISIS. But, haven’t we always been at war with EastAsia?

Now as for the shoes …

So, they’re not the same thing then?

Hard to tell with these foreigners 😉

I see howie is being as mendacious as ever in defending his lying to the Australian public about wmd

“Kevin Rudd made a speech saying that it was an empirical fact that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, he later on said that I had taken the country to war based on a lie, despite the fact he said it was an empirical fact, never one to understate things,” he said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-21/howard-embarrassed-by-intelligence-that-iraq-had-wmds/5759132

Ignore the fact of the caveats Rudd used when talking of Iraq and wmd, and try and rewrite history. Hint, “expansion” is the key word to be looking for here 😉

…and I see Gillard is now admitting she mislead Rudd about her leadership challenge, and dumping on Carr too.

The whole disaster started with her ill-conceived challenge, pushed by the hacks and warlords.

Rudd had the ALP well in front when he was knifed, how different the political landscape would be if Gillard had shown more transparency (for once)

I see Gillard is now admitting she mislead Rudd about her leadership challenge

Do you blame her, in the revelation of how leaky rudd turned out to be?

Essendon is a disgrace, so is Hird. Punish both severely.

I AGREE. The players are the losers here. Although, those in the leadership group really need a hard look at themselves, they have much to answer for also. I feel for the rookies and lower level players though.

Who is at fault re Essendon, in order of most at fault-

* Essendon – the club had an obligation to supervise the actions and behaviour of its officers. It also is required to manage health and safety risks in its workplace. The club is negligent.
* Hird – he has an statatory obligation to protect the welfare of the players. He is negligent.
* The AFL should have ensured a consistent supplements regime across all clubs.
* The AFL Players Association negotiates the collective agreement, but did not seek (adequate) provisions regarding effective OHSor suppliments
* Players, in a club where a 20 year old is trying to establish himself, which one is going to refuse the program? Particularly given the written undertakings of the club.

The true face of terror in our country. When will this be labelled as a much hyped “emergency”?

A man has been charged with murder after one woman was stabbed to death and another was injured during a row at a home in Taree in northern New South Wales.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-22/man-charged-with-murder-over-taree-double-stabbing/5759228

‘So, Do you consider domestic violence to be as big an issue as “tewwa”?’

Only when weighted with crack and alcohol.

Domestic violence is a blight and dead people are no less dead because it happened to be at the hand of their husband.

A significant problem with policing domestic violence is the police. It isn’t the law or lack of policing resources, it’s that the police blokes don’t want/can’t be bothered intervening.

Terrorism is intended to divide communities.

Domestic violence is personal, terrorism is impersonal.

Terrorism is intended to divide communities.

And this guvmint is doing that quite well, aren’t they.

terrorism is impersonal

And, according to the guy who is supposed to be uniting us and calming the population, it could be any “determined individual, [with] a knife, an iPhone and a victim”

Possibly and arguably so did the Gillard government, and Howard’s.

But I’m happy with a show of strength by police when it comes to-
* Murderers
* Rapists
* Bikies
* People that plan exhibition murders to divide the community

Historians will see this as a timely exercise by Abbott et al. to preserve our multicultural society.

More likely it will be a time that tabot claims he was “embarrassed” about.

As for the other little weasel who claimed last night he was “embarrassed” about helping to create the quagmire we now see, if only there was truly “justice”

“”So, Do you consider domestic violence to be as big an issue as “tewwa”? (it’s actually a pretty simple question)””

What a stoopid analogy/connection

Terrorism is about “ïmpressing” many generally innocent observers

“”Quick, throw billions into getting people shitting their pants and racially attacking/vilifying innocent muslims going about their daily business.””

As opposed to

“Quick, throw billions into getting people shitting their pants and attacking/vilifying innocent “coal miners going about their daily business.”

I don’t see anyone shitting themselves. I just se a certain amount of action by government agencies and our military. Much like the rest of the world

By the way why are you equating muslim and race ?

And we are talking about extreme elements…………but you already know that

“I’m prepared to wager $1000 that his penis is probably smaller than 3 inches “

Fifi says that’s a safe bet.

“Libertarians are radical extremists, anarchy and privilege for the selfish takers in society.”

Yeah! Those radical extremists have even forced the attorney general to specifically prohibit torture in his proposed legislation. Selfish takers, the lot of them.

” Those radical extremists have even forced the attorney general to specifically prohibit torture in his proposed legislation.”

How did we reach a point where we have to throw in a line that specifically prohibits torture in the first place? One year in, and this “Freedom” mob are speaking torture

I hope it all goes back to the drawing board (it’s hard to know exactly where the legislation is at with the reporting)

‘and a large dose of bitter sarc.’

I thought it was irony.

(Oh well, with consumer confidence incidentally getting a big boost from all the rationing of war(s) talk, chatter about forging ahead with a central platform of IR reform at the G2020 as being the shining path to augmented domestic and global growth(s) is almost certain to capture the zeitgeist and to pick up the mood for constructive activity.)

‘Since the carbon tax was scraped, the stock market has fallen 4% wiping off $70 billion of value’

Coincidence? I think not.

I read a comment on PB this morning that highlighted the glaring problem with the new tewwa “reforms” being offered up to a frightened public.

howie was “embarrassed” about his share of the decision that resulted in the slaughter thousands of Iraqis that was based on a lie, and now tabot wants the same kind of people who told the lie to have no judicial oversight.

WTF!

Labor better stand up for friggin democracy here!

People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.

It would make the manufacture of bullet trains reasonably cheap.

Good to see some media outlets asking and not rolling over in the War On Tewwa!

800 police, 15 people detained, but only one terrorism charge. Was there really a plot to behead a member of the public? And if so, why haven’t more charges been laid?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/22/counter-terrorism-raids-leave-some-serious-questions-unanswered

More gubmint by pantz on fire

Despite the Commonwealth government warning the nation’s health bill is spiralling out of control, a new report shows Australia’s growth in health expenditure is the lowest since the mid-1980s.

https://theconversation.com/health-spending-growth-at-30-year-low-31983

Turns out that the claims health expenditure is “out of control” is just bullshit. Who’d have thunk it.

How True

https://newmatilda.com/2014/09/21/right-wing-rebuff

“”One year in, and this “Freedom” mob are speaking torture ……”

Errrrrrrrrrr……………No its actually your side that is wailing about it.

Keep the stupid comparisons coming TomR

OK

wally and sense 🙂

Wilkie today: …John Howard should be tried for conspiracy to commit mass murder by the international criminal court over the 2003 invasion of Iraq, independent MP Andrew Wilkie has claimed

Wilkie 2003: “(Iraq’s) weapons of mass destruction program is very disjointed and contained by the regime that’s been in place since the last Gulf War … Iraq as rogue state should worry us as a potential source of weapons to terrorists …What worries me is that a war, an invasion, is the option that’s most likely to prompt Saddam to do exactly what we’re trying to prevent. A war is what is most likely to force him to act recklessly, to possibly use weapons of mass destruction himself and to possibly play a terrorism card.”

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/s804540.htm

The Prime Minister, I fear, tells two very particular lies as he prepares to swaddle the ballot box in desert camouflage. First that there will be no Australian combat forces in Iraq, and second that these combat forces – which won’t be there – will increase your security.

But that’s not what we’re doing.

I wasn’t up on the French, but I like what they are doing. THAT is how to combat Tewwa. Unlike tabot, who is playing their game for them.

* The holy warriors of the Islamic State are reportedly unhappy to be labelled with the name “Daesh”, which is an Arab acronym for ISIS but which, in its plural form “daw’aish” means “bigots who impose their views on others”. The French government has officially adopted the term, and in a Pythonesque rejoinder the Daesh now refers to them as “The Filthy French”. Besides eating lots of bacon and educating your daughters I can think of no more appropriate form of resistance to these medieval wankbadgers.

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/blunt-instrument/lights-camera-action-for-abbott-and-isis-20140923-10kkby.html

I’m sure you were equally critical of that

I was, but that was for the first class bit (which, from memory, turned out to be an up-class from lack of seats or some such?)

But, the difference was, his wife had a role there as well (I don’t recall what it was), but it met the ministerial rules for travelling with spouses.

Of course, I don’t recall Labor running a campaign about “age of entitlement” either?

(Anyone with an interest for a french-fry?)

Wow, devastating critique

the splatteredbum reckons Kerry’s an idiot (a stone cold one at that) 😯

TAKE THAT worlds scientists

nyah nyan nya nyah nyah!

Yeah, when it comes to being terrified of a non-existent threat,

I don’t see anybody here denying that ISIS is a threat. I see people questioning both the rhetoric around the threat, and the actual level of the threat as portrayed.

I do see many people denying AGW is a threat, even though far more respected and transparent sources are telling us otherwise.

tewwawetterz WTW!

(While we’re doing in-depth environmental impact assessments of proposed activities: “But if America does not support the advance of democratic institutions and values, who will?”)

“”……..and transparent sources are telling us otherwise.””

IPCC transparent ?………………………COMEDY GOLD !

(And how many Arab boots and rifles have been committed to defend their people and CONTINENT?

Now, now, our good friends and allies in the kingdoms, principates, and emirates have assured us that they will be reserving their prodigous barter-purchases in interoperable military machineries, to instead fight the war on terror and caliphates by cutting off the check-book; beginning with an embargoed Iran and its unclean thoughts about dirty hands initially being denied a plush-seat at the big-table.)

Further to ao’s link about hte guy being detained on the plane for doodling, and TB’s comment above, we now have this

Three football fans said they were “furious and humiliated” after being detained at a rugby league match for using their mobile telephones in a manner an onlooker deemed suspicious.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/three-fans-humiliated-by-police-treatment-at-roosterscowboys-match-20140922-10kelw.html

The closing remarks are the most telling. It is the way the far right always run things. They need an enemy, and they don’t mind making one of minority sections of the community.

Mr Houda said: “It’s getting ridiculous. The last time the Muslim community were confronted with such a wave of bigotry and racism was under John Howard but this time it is way overboard.”

They used Yella terra, Reds under the beds, Vietnamese Boatpeople, Any Boatpeople, and now, Muslims are the chosen scapegoat.

To be clear, it is Radical Ideologues who are the tewwawists in a far flung land. Not the local Muslim community.

Meanwhile, out country is on High Alert; Panicked or Prepared?

I wonder if comments about a “knife and an iphone” could trigger something like the above story?

The abbottalypse is here, and it is dividing as it goes.

was a genuine ISIL advertisement

It’s difficult to see how the confusion comes about really?

AAAA 😉

Now that is my kind of jihad!

Careful splatteredbum, they’ll be kickin’ in your front door soon 😉

“…….(and yes I’m still agnostic)………….””

More Crap !

September 11 was trivial.

That might be your opinion, but it isn’t widely shared I would guess.

What isn’t trivial was the reaction to it, and what has bred from htat.

The US (and it’s allies) continually give the radicals precisely what they want. War and Tewwa

And we have stepped right up to the plate for them again.

(In the battle of ideas, leaders with no idea are worse than useless.

Could be; sheep go to Heaven and goats go to Hell; or vice versa; perhaps.)

But having “broken it” they should have hung around until it was “fixed”.

I AGREE!

But, what is fixed? I mean, weren’t we asked to leave, by the same mob now asking us back? How could we stay if the Iraqis claimed they no longer required assistance? And how will we know this time if we are still required or not?

‘…even though far more respected and transparent sources are telling us otherwise.’

Strongly agree, the Denialati are filth.

I wonder if FIFA is watching for a way out of its predicament ?

When it comes to splitting hairs, TR is a champion.

Or perhaps you mean its set by a completely Free Market with a $23 a tonne minimum ?

How about

Corporate Welfare for Gina and Twiggy BAD

Corporate Welfare for Unionised Car Industry Workers GOOD

“tomR has been with us since day dot”

Me to but i am still called a troll. Especially on the Scotland post.

“Health costs up: Governments spending less, while out-of-pocket payments highest in a decade ”

What is the point of this statement? Since it was provided by AO i assume it is some dig at Abbott. The report is from years 2012-2013 when Gillard was in power. Amazing- even though Labor was running $40B deficits they were spending less. Howard funded everything and ran a surplus.

”His wit and humour always thoroughly enjoyed by myself.”

He’s like a union delegate who has swallowed a thesaurus, which can be entertaining (in much the same way that tinea is entertaining)

…and I suppose “wit and humour” is rhyming slang – for “a little s**t that’s as enjoyable as a brain tumour”

TB, I don’t do those smiley faces, tongue pokes, frowns etc, I’d prefer to leave my comments ambiguous, but I’m sure Tom R knows what I mean.

Try this for the Tom R experience …

Crowd Control: the power of social media avoids unnecessary bloodshed.

‘SOCIAL media is being used so ­effectively to terrorise people in Iraq and Syria that Islamic State fighters are clearing swaths of territory without having to commit full military resources. UN Security Council meetings are being told that people are fleeing their homes and land even ­before Islamic State terrorists reach towns as Twitter and other social media has turned into a weapon of terror displacing tens of thousands of people.’

The rebels that Syria are looking to train Meta. Are they the baddies, or the baddies?

btw, I see there was a large level group un-hinging last night. What a riot. Thanks for the nice words though ao and TB.

Not sure about yomms though, too “amphibious” perhaps?

And I’m not sure if I’m some kind of xxxx parabol or not tosy, but I’ll leave that pondering up to you 😉

But all in all, an entertaining session by the looks. My markets closed up after reading it anyway 😆

And Kitty would be smart to stop threatening the PM with death.

Pertinent

It is ultimately irrelevant what terminology the government chooses to use because the declared enemy, Isis, has already set the terms. They have declared a holy war, and now the international community has responded just as the jihadists wanted.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/23/isis-the-international-community-has-responded-just-as-the-jihadists-wanted

Meanwhile, our gubmint have responded even better than the jihadists could have dreamed of.

“For those tewwawetterz amongst us…”

‘… the whereabouts of five rocket-launchers stolen from the army and allegedly bought by a member of the Sydney terror cell remains a mystery.’

Just sayin….

There’s a lot of that going on lately, isn’t there.

How long ago did those rocket launchers go missing?

All of a sudden…..

Just sayin….

And I see the libs are trying to silence dissent again

A federal Liberal MP has slammed the ABC for broadcasting what he says are inflammatory “conspiracy theories” about last week’s terror raids on last night’s Q&A program.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/liberal-mp-alex-hawke-accuses-abcs-qa-of-broadcasting-conspiracy-theories-on-terror-raids-20140923-10kt3i.html

Where are the “free Speech” warriors now? crickets… ❓

Is it because he didn’t like what was said, or because it cut too close?

Ms Abdel-Fattah described the terror raids as a “spectacle” and “conveniently timed” ahead of the government’s “most draconian” national security legislation which is being introduced into Parliament this week.

“It reinforced this wider narrative of Muslims as criminals … and I’m very cynical about the government’s decision to politicise these raids,” she added.

Half a dozen years ago.

One year you might right. Not this one.

Try doubling your number.

“This is a strong decisive leader with vision and formidable negotiation acumen,……..””

COMEDY GOLD !

She’s nothing but a lying piece of shit who as I said opines about how awesome she could have been without Kevin Rudd, without being picked on (by Germaine Greer), and without an effective Opposition Leader.

She”s a total failed fuckwit of a leader and History thankfully is starting to judge her as such.

Fancy crying over being branded as disloyal in the morning papers and then that very night going ahead and backstabbing the elected PM and then being surprised at how badly he reacted to it.

As I said a complete and utter fuckwit.

This is why we should be afraid, not because of crazies with knives and ipods. We should be aware of them, but not afraid. Yet our leaders and media have ramped up the tewwa level until it has become a self fulfilling prophecy.

Something is happening to Australia’s democracy. It’s happening right before our eyes, in federal Parliament, on national television, on the front of our daily newspapers. And we’re applauding it.

https://newmatilda.com/2014/09/23/abbotts-anti-terror-laws-are-real-danger-australia

Fancy crying over being branded as disloyal in the morning papers and then that very night going ahead and backstabbing the elected PM and then being surprised at how badly he reacted to it.

Are we talking about tabot and turnbull?

tabot is lucky turnbull isn’t as vindictive as rudd was/is.

As was hawke, keating, howard, ……

I can’t wait for a Q&A about police harassment of bikies.

* Audience member (Mrs Skull) – ‘Skull junior was so traumatised when the police raided our house and took Skull away’
* Token police – ‘We have arrested Mr Skull and charged him with rape, drug dealing and possession of firearms’
* Mrs Skull & Ms Chopper – ‘You lot have it in for the Heathen Bikie Club, they’re just a group of mates who discuss rape and drug dealing as their way of bonding’

And the temerity of that lying sack of shit Gillard to imply that if it was not for Kevin Rudd she would have been as “awesome” äs Hawke and Keatng…………..she’s not fit to even share a lift with them let alone be even mentioned in the same sentence.

What a complete moron she is………….

Who the fuck does she think she’s fooling except for rusteds like TomR , Ricky and TB who get suckered in continually by her barrage of bullshit.

“”There has been a lot of community support AGAINST the police harassment of bikies actually yomm.””

In “”Your World”” perhaps.

Certainly not in Sydney where they are seen correctly as major suppliers of Ice.

So enforcement of the prevailing Law is now seen as “”harassment”” ?

Interesting POV

So enforcement of the prevailing Law is now seen as “”harassment”” ?

Do you understand the powers the “prevailing Law ” in those two states have?

Who the hell takes a knife to a Police interview…………………………………..a Goodie does of course !

who the fuck takes a knife to a gun fight ?

But did he have an iphone?

It appears that he had a victim in mind though.

(Fuck me dead where does this convolution of bullshit end ?

With due process, as per usual, going about business as usual, and possibly with a formal internal and/or external investigation as usual; there was some passing mention of a coroner, perhaps? And who knows, even an internal investigator, or an external investigator, like a coroner, too, might have some further questions of immediately involved parties to the event, or not, and some subsequent recommendations, or not, which might be of some assistance, or not, for the better function and protection of police and of members of the public in these (un)usual times. That’s sometimes, even usually, how it goes, as I understand the general process.

Don’t you wonder a little at how an initial, mediated claim emerged that ‘officers had no idea’, given, and as cited, further (im)mediated prosecutory-exculpatory disclosures made by a subset of the parties to a not insignificant event, probably not well-acquitted as a policing success on any account, on a suburban street?)

“”They obviously provoked this incident just to suit Abbott’s narrative.””

LOL……………………exactly

.

I’m sure we would all be much more relaxed if the media was reporting-

‘Terror suspect stabs to death 2 police, is still at large’

(Meanwhile, where it is ‘against God’ to yada yada yada…

The Malaysian government, which has a history of authoritarian tactics, has stepped up its use of the British colonial-era sedition law since it lost the popular vote in elections last year. The Sedition Act outlaws speech that incites hatred of the government or racial hostility, but critics have said it is too vague and ripe for abuse.)

‘(A) Head projectionist in Aboots cinema of fiction favourites showing his latest production of Fear and loathing in Australia’

I’ll put my hand up for that job.

I’m quite ok with plenty of visible, show of strength policing**

I’m not persuaded that expansion of their current powers is necessary.

(**as a youth I had some unpleasant experiences with the police, I considered them corrupt facists, recruited from the unintelligent, bullying inclined demographic. I’m not entirely sure they’ve changed)

Something to reflect upon

Political leaders love nothing more than when populations are put in fear of external threats. In that regard, these western leaders share exactly the same goal as ISIS: to terrorize their nation’s citizens by grossly exaggerating its power and reach. Any museum exhibit on the degradation of western behavior in the post-9/11 era would be well-advised to put Abbott’s full speech on the wall, as it illustrates the fear-mongering games and propagandistic tactics that have led to all of that.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/22/australias-prime-minister-gives-master-class-exploiting-terrorism-fears-seize-new-powers/

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2014/sep/22/first-dog-attack

WABBIT SEASON ! ! !

Abbottophobia is a debilitating disease, with varied symptoms, but a green slime is definitely something all cases have in common.

Firstly, this is also an internal threat.

As is domestic violence. Bikies. Suicide (and Death By Police).

C’mon all you Freedom Warriors who were so up in arms about having print media operate under the same regulations as broadcast media, where the fuck are ya’s NOW!

I’ll bet bolt is right behind THIS drive to curtail freedoms

Tim Wilson, what’s he been up too?

crickets perhaps?

Certainly police raids of bikie houses have involved a similar ‘show of strength’.

If someone’s history is violence, drug taking/dealing and being the bouncer at strip joints, I would have previously thought they’d be a bikie type.

These days they’re likely to be religious zealots. Strange days indeed.

Option 1. The police arrest the suspect.

* Problem – on what evidence? Outcry about arresting an 18 year old (who’s just ‘bonding’)

Option 2. Invite him to the police station for an informal chat.

* Problem- police get stabbed, possibly because they met him in an unthreatening manner.

Option 3. Don’t do anything that might unsettle religious nutcases.

* Problem – doing nothing is negligent by police and governments if they have reason to suspect someone intends public harm.

What exactly are the other options the police had?

I think Bolt is being typically unbalanced on this issue. He really does seem intent on marginalising some groups.

But when I see comments around on blogs that say the actual ‘terrorists’ are the government, it’s clear that his comments aren’t near the most ignorant or stupid.
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Re pepper spray & taser

If some knife wielding nutcase is stabbing me in the chest, I’d prefer a gun to making his eyes run.

Where’s the switch for this taser?!

unstable, ignorant fearsoilers

That’s fairly disrespectful term to apply to our parliament.

Accurate though.

<i<The domestic threat is being whipped into a frenzy which is totally disproportionate to its magnitude.

And THAT is precisely what I am talking about. Of course, to some tewwawetterz, that means you are some kind of a supporter of tewwawism.

Perhaps they think it is an easy way to silence dissent?

So just another Look Over There comment from Troll Central

told a handful of nutjobs here to do ‘stuff’!!!

Lustily disseminated on the nightly news with accompanying graphics for those who may have missed the message, and various methods of rampage preferred by the said dessert crazies.

FFS!

One day there is, apparently, no threat here, even though our security services say there is and Islamic Sate has asked its ‘lone wolves’ to strike. Next day two police officers are stabbed by wannabe jihadist.

One day there is a massive campaign advertising for the Islamic Sate how it has asked its ‘lone wolves’ to strike (coupled with a heightened sense of fear and accompanying xenophobic outpourings against an already marginalized group). Next day two police officers are stabbed by wannabe jihadist.

No, I can’t draw a line.

””””The domestic threat is being whipped into a frenzy which is totally disproportionate to its magnitude.””””’

#correct, it is more `proportionate` to the popularity of recent teabag-budget

‘#correct, it is more `proportionate` to the popularity of recent teabag-budget’

No that is an entirely different issue and you know it, Abbott will ultimately be judged on whether he can create economic progress before the next election.

This undeclared war would have been won by then and of little concern for the voting population, whereas the hip pocket nerve ….

l notice `our` teabags are well immersed in mr-rabbits current episode of teabag-panic, a continuation (of-course) of johnW`s teabag-panic. Having surrendered all free-thought to team-teabag, they cannot distinguish the relationship between;

1. idle hands and minds, ie no meaningful/accessible job, AND,

2. being bastardised as the bogeyman, for political/media gain, AND,

3. attraction to those offering (importance,acceptance,brotherhood,etc) even tho perverted/false

(but then again, what would l know, l wasn`t wise enough to create an iraq wasteland suitable for terror-fearist occupation in the first place, #the-jeer-squad)

”””””””I think Bolt is being typically unbalanced on this issue. He really does seem intent on marginalising some groups.””””””””’

look harder, l`m sure you`ll find several `lone-wolf-packs` are being combed and fed from illegal onion slush-funds

“Mayhaps not, but have you checked out any of the hysterics in his comments threads?”

No, I don’t bother to read the comments. They’re mainly suckholes, but less articulate so there’s nothing to be gained.

(Be alert, alarmed & wary of shadows.

Nyet; unwanted and unwarranted physical contact is to be welcomed; apparently.)

‘mr-rabbit did all he could war-talk-wise on #mh17 to distract from `local` problems,
conveniently goose-steps off to syria for same reason #teabags’

Another symptom of Abbottophobia is that people afflicted have a blind spot.

This greatly misunderstood young Australian was carrying a much bigger knife to be used in a beheading ceremony or something. Just sayin…

(Another symptom of Abbottophobia is that people afflicted have a blind spot.

True; for instance, I didn’t notice, in some mediated accounts, that alleged threats made against Tony Abbott had been vacated; that the initiating hand of friendship from a welcoming constabulary had been withdrawn; that the specific greeting order had been rearranged; that the expected amicability of discussions had been brought into sharper relief; and that some reason, and a much better reason at that, had been supplied for why officers having no inkling were ranging around in a carpark after dark with the epitome of pure evil. Nevertheless, I am still almost sure that the times of forensic officers and ongoing investigators and subsequent overall investigators, if any, are in all likelihood wasted now, given preemptive pronouncements by concerned politicians and the generisability of the profound notion that “police will be constantly vigilant to protect us against people who would do us harm”.)

the intensive shift in enhanced unfreedoms being proposed in the momentum

Beautifully put Meta, as only you can 😉

The way to discourage the fuckers is to kill their kind wherever possible.

egg has a competitor vying for the title 😦

There is nothing wrong with alerting the public to an increased risk of attack.

I AGREE!

It happens all the time when their is a murderer on the loose.

I AGREE!

Sure, there will be thousands of spurious tip-offs but there will also be a few useful ones as well.

I AGREE!

But, when you raid a dozen people with 800 officers and most of the countries media tagging along, try and make sure it is for something. And then, don’t try and link extended powers to further curtail peoples freedoms to said over-egged operation. It really looks pathetic and opportunist.

Go the jeer squad!

Is this directed at the media, the cops, or the pollies attempting to exploit a serious situation?

I applauded it when howie did it after the Port Arthur massacre because the potential outcome was admirable and the repercussions minimal. But this potential outcome is terrible, and can only inflame an already volatile situation.

‘The real problem is that the left so hate Western civilisition they are happy to run interference for its enemies, no matter how depraved they are.’

Yes, but the average lefty is standing shoulder to shoulder with Bill. Its only the green left who want to destroy Western civilisation.

(Its only the green left who want to destroy Western civilisation.

Absolutely true; but, then again, there’s the oft-quoted vile dictum, “What do I think of Western civilization? I think it would be a very good idea”, to consider; nevertheless and everthemore, I shall meditate on the essential truth which your and other‘s wise words seem to suggest, while enjoying some calming music.)

This new theatre is a measured response from a genuine coalition of the willing, to test weaponry chasing bandits in real time.

Headscarfs are attractive and inoffensive, but there will always be a minority who are offended. This is precisely why the government dropped the vilification thingy from the political agenda a short while ago.

Wow Wayne Swan is improving. He is only out by a factor of 2 which is a record improvement for Swan.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/budget-deficit-soars-to-485bn/story-fn59niix-1227070190882?nk=3b56f48f22327a1cd5f6aecabf75f735

“LABOR’S final budget produced a $48.5 billion deficit last financial year, $30 billion more than the deficit forecast by Treasury the government has revealed.”

Swan predicted the deficit would be $18B. The deficit is $9B bigger because of the loan to the RBA. But Swan is still out by only a factor of two. Only a small error for Swan.

Tom R

The budget forecast in May last year (2013) was for a $18B deficit.

You will defend to the death the indefensible because you are dishonest (like Koukoulas).

Of course if we go back further Swan forecast a $5B surplus for his last budget back in 2011.

Here is a picture of Labors miserable forecasts.

Chuckle about what??

In 2011 Swan said the 2013 budget would have a $5.4B surplus.

In 2008 Swan said there would be a $20B surplus the next year. It ended up being a $40B deficit. Of course the GFC had an impact but this means Swan did not see the GFC coming

Swan never got any of his predictions close.

He should be in prison for his lies.

He is a master fraud like the people who voted for him.

More importantly.

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‘Australia’s central bank is worried that the fast-growing rate at which banks are lending to investors is out of proportion with rental demand.

‘This could have wider-ranging effects on the economy, the RBA warned in its twice-yearly Financial Stability Review.’

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PEFO 2010 = surplus $4.5B for 2013

Why not go with the PEFO from 2013? Why look all the way back to 2010?

Cherry picking?

Let’s look at 2012 then

Why not look at the here and NOW

Hockey made his statements in Opposition based on figures available at the time.

The 2010 PEFO said the budget would be in surplus by now.

We are supposed to trust the PEFO’s are we not??

Fact is Hockey was handed a mess. Labor supporters should be apologising for what they have done not giving lectures.

Hockey made his statements in Opposition based on figures available at the time.

ROFL

You understand that Swan made his statements in Government based on figures available at the time, don’t you?

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

“You understand that Swan made his statements in Government based on figures available at the time, don’t you?”

I think Swan being in govt had more information available to him than Hockey.

Fact is Swan should be in prison for misleading the Australian people for so many years.

Good.

There has been little to cheer about because he is doing the hard yards up front. Of course there was the slashing of a particular tax which gave me cheer.

“But not in the BUDGET you dick”

I think we pay for the F35’s when they arrive after 2020. And Labor would have purchased the same number. But we have been over this before.

Lots of money being spent on the navy but it doesn’t bother lefties. So i conclude lefties like boats but do not like planes. And lefties also like submarines. We are going to be spending $20-$40B on replacement subs but lefties explode when we spend money on planes.