Rostrum: Just because we can Edition

Lets not forget that we don’t have the necessary equipment only since the last budget

Operation OGRE perhaps 😉

‘Why does the government restrict freedom of movement by criminalising visits to a foreign place that the foreign minister does not want you to go, without the state having to prove that you did anything wrong?’

Saul is correct, young Islamists should not be restrained from going on working holidays in Syria where they might gain a useful trade in bomb making. This would come in handy on their return to Oz.

‘Or by coercing refugees to live in rural areas?’

Once again he is correct, people should not be forced to live in the bush where there is little work. Better they form ghettos in the cities and earn a living as cheap labour or by criminality.

‘Or by mandating house arrest under anti-terrorism control orders?’

The government overplayed their hand, thinking it might discourage youngsters from making fools of themselves. Youthful folly is not restricted to radical Muslims, red neck white trash are renown for it.

I ploughed, I liked, perhaps unsurprisingly to sum 😉

What about the chronic underfunding of legal aid, which prevents the most marginal from vindicating their “traditional” rights? Why is the government eroding the already weak institutions we have for safeguarding rights, by reducing funding to the Australian Human Rights Commission and politicising it with an ideological appointee?

Gillian Trigg cares about refugee children except when Labor is in power.

You’ll need to expand on that thinking somewhat, because, as I have shown before there is reasoning to actions which some appear to want to overlook

(Anyone interested in some ladies’ fingers to thicken a witch’s brew?)

“The good citizen of Marrickville has obviously copped enough ridicule for one day and removed the wanky descriptor. ”

All those inner city areas are full to the brim with idiots.

You know you are talking to a complete inner city wanker as soon as he or she refers to their local motley grouping of shops as ……………..”The Village Shops”.

Some of them have started calling their respective “Railway Parade” next to the railway station as the fucking lofty title of …………..”Our Local High Street”

Total Morons of the Highest Order of Wankery

‘All those inner city areas are full to the brim with idiots.’

True, they think of themselves as part of the intelligentsia, I was lucky to escape from their delusional groupthink.

Defund the ABC?

We know what their end game is

Simple as ABC: More cuts, less news coverage

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/simple-as-abc-more-cuts-less-news-coverage-20141007-10r580.html

Mind you, theirabc is so infested with right wing hackery that it is tempting to want to get rid of the lot.

But, once it is gone, it is gone. Ask people in the bush what they think of that idea.

Simply get it back to it’s charter, and fuck of with this inane “balance” shit.

Simply present news as news.

Here’s a fucking hint on how it is done. look and remember Aunty

I’m against preventing “radical” “Islamist” “groups” from spruiking their “hate speech”

I wonder what bolts take on it all is?

Actually, I think I can guess (:

as long as bolt can keep preaching his own hate that is.

Mind you, does this mean we now have a case for shipping alan jones outta the cuntree!

After all, he did preach violence against a former PM

‘Defund the ABC?’

Only the news department, it has a pink/green hue.

‘So you all watch commercial TV?’

Not much, there are so many platforms on the interwebs that I don’t feel deprived.

Emma on ABC actually let the extremist look like a total and utter fucking tool just by letting him talk.

I think you will see plenty of it tomorrow

(there are so many platforms on the interwebs that I don’t feel deprived

True; as entertaining as it might be catching up exclusively with the moment-by-moment derrings-do of Team Australia’s Top Guns of Occluded Opportunities and Collateral Damage Avoidances, there’s always AJ to keep Australians apprised of happenings in the vicinity of the vicinity of Lakemba and of marginal news, including the Coalition of the Concerned’s venerable performance(s); I guess.)

(For Certain; Ben Saul will require guest accommodation in one of canberra`s 5-star gulags in remote locations. Floating his boat against Team Australia`s blatant lies and corporate rights pre-occupation will ensure Ben a long holiday.)

A GREAT BIG NEW TAX (and of course, it’s all Labors fault)

Treasurer Joe Hockey has signalled that market participants may be charged a fee to access data provided by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) as he blamed Labor’s budget cuts for dodgy job figures produced by the agency.

http://www.afr.com/p/national/joe_hockey_proposes_new_tax_to_fix_txhdc87rvf52nACMo0iBTM

This, after floating the idea of a “levy” to fund their war. It’s fucking laughable. We can tax people to drop bombs on others, but not to help rebuild communities after a massive natural disaster.

Yep, looks like their dead reb (for me at least) 😦

Here’s what the tweet led to anyway

http://andrewboltparty.com/3BoltTrials.aspx

“Egg is such a fucking idiot”

Interestingly that description applies to teabagz too, but teabagz is completely without humour and is inarticulate as well.

“”Lets just hop these fucking ass wipes in this so called government know what they are unleashing in the community..””

Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr……………Ricky the Islamic extremist on Lateline and Skynews was not press ganged into appearing and making himself look like a total tool.

He is a spokesman for Hizbut Tahrir. In fact I think he might be the 2IC to the great bearded Dickhead they usually wheel out.

But I suppose you are OK with someone getting up on stage and teaching that honour killings are OK or despite being asked several times refusing to denounce the violence of ISIL…………………are you ?

The Royal Commission into unions seems to be doing a reasonable job. It is uncovering a number of unsavoury activities that have no place in the workplace or anywhere else.

The RC in 2004 showed a similar pattern of behaviour in the construction industry. Following the exposure, the behaviour of those unions moderated for a while.

There’s no problem with exposing the thuggish and dubious actions of unions from time to time.

This tool works for the ABC where the fundamental sense of its mission and responsibility amounts to no more than twisting the news to accord with the bastardization of its charter by right wing political appointees and their never ending chase for the elusive quarry “balance”

Try to get it right 😉

The reckless and inflammatory reporting on terrorism and national security makes me wonder whether we’d be better off without a media apparatus that can sink so low, writes Jonathan Green.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-09/green-our-reckless-media-fans-the-flames-of-disquiet/5799504

He makes a very good point . Watching the nightly horror movie, it occurred to me that daesh must sit back and admire at the ability of news outlets to far better generate the very fear and loathing than any number of their youtube massacres will ever create.

The best example of “news” that I saw recently was a simple black front page with a white dove and a commemoration of the latest beheading victim (can’t put the tweet with the image up 😦 )

It refused to further advertise for these madmen murderers, and in the process, further their cause for them. Whereas last nights news even went back to remind us of the grisly murder in England a while ago, and telling all of our uniformed people to not wear uniform for the fear. The FEAR was palpable.

We’ve lost this “war” from the get go

‘We’ve lost this “war” from the get go

Tom R, clearly they’re after more than the creation of ‘FEAR’, because these marauding gangs are after LAND, that is occupied by PEOPLE. They’ll use slaughter and rape to advance their territorial objectives.

Suggesting that they’re only looking to create ‘FEAR’ ignores all the people they have (so far) slaughtered and raped.

“They’re local youths who turn to violent nutcases because they’re disaffected with us and how we treat them.’”

Yes……………..Yes…………………Yes.

They just need hugs and a few kisses……………………that’ll fix it.

They just need hugs and a few kisses……………………that’ll fix it.

You keep going straight to that wally. You sure there aint something missing from your life?

Egg is such a fucking idiot

It really just needed repeating 🙂

I put it down to my good looks, charm and wit.

Now it’s even more inexplicable.

‘It really just needed repeating’

Especially on mental health week.

(For Certain; Air superiority is a proven failure, that can only provide destruction. lt cannot win hearts, minds or victory.)

””””the new offence of “advocating terrorism”””/incitement/bolt

#haha, the penny is starting to drop with the pantie-soiling enhancers, the fcuking imbecile they promoted (mr-rabbit) is going too far and going to end-up burning them too

and that George Bush was right:

A quick history lesson before it is re-written by political wonks.

The Bush Administration later sought an agreement with the Iraqi government, and in 2008 George W. Bush signed the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement. It included a deadline of 31 December 2011, before which “all the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_of_U.S._troops_from_Iraq

It’s even linked to in that article to one of their own. Blindly Ignorant. Must be a murdoch paper

For months, U.S. and Iraqi officials had been negotiating the terms of an accord that would have kept several thousand U.S. troops in Iraq for special operations and training beyond the year-end deadline set by the George W. Bush administration.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/all-us-troops-to-leave-iraq/2011/10/21/gIQAUyJi3L_story.html

bolts still working out his angle. It’s probably dawning on him that these laws, if applied retrospectively, might cause him some problems?

I have no pity for these barrackers lamenting the monster they created. I also note that they are only concerned with the section that applies to them, and not much about the rest. Selfish twats.

‘…ad hoc legal frameworks for state-based enablers. ‘oorah, for humanitarian missions.’

Meta the idea of wars fought with large standing armies is a thing of the past, these days its all about using sophisticated weaponry from a safe distance and relying on good intelligence to avoid collateral damage.

Its a humanitarian exercise in that there are millions of Muslims in refugee camps who need to be repatriated. Tell me why you think its better to do nothing?

Hiding behind ‘National Security’ is the last refuge of liberty rapists.

hear hear

free speech is free speech, and hiding it away behind floss like “operational matters” is preventing it.

It’s almost a fucking low as blaming the messengers like in the case of asylum seeker service provider Save the Children And we don’t really know, because of ‘National Security’. Fuck off, it is pure arse covering for bad behaviour.

Minister for Immigration Scott Morrison has failed to provide any evidence of wrongdoing to asylum seeker service provider Save the Children, despite airing sensational accusations that the group have been involved in coaching detainees to self-harm.

https://newmatilda.com/2014/10/03/save-children-fires-back-morrisons-self-harm-coaching-claims

#agree with dunny, on his questions,

1. there is no `win`, for team-stupid, or the poor bastards chalked-up as collateral
2. amplification, just as israel/palistine has festered for 6-decades,
iraq2003 will now fester too, #teabags

Yes the chap on the left does bear a close resemblance to me. Green suits have never gone out of style, timeless.

Ask yourself …. who the fuck are we saving?

the libs, and that is all it is designed to save. And no moral bar is too low to pass under

“Everything comes at a cost and if Bill Shorten truly is honest about his commitment to deliver bipartisan support in relation to our defence efforts in the Middle East he’ll provide bi-partisan support to pay for it,” he said.

While Mr Abbott on Thursday declined to back his Treasurer’s call, the opposition’s treasury spokesman Chris Bowen attacked the tactic as “disgraceful” and “blackmail”.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/treasurer-joe-hockey-pressures-labor-to-pass-stalled-budget-measures-to-pay-for-iraq-war-20141009-113eox.html

Noting also that I haven’t seen dear leader speak out against hockey yet either.

I wonder which “thieves” they are planning on chasing? The low income ones without the tax receipt for the computer they claim would be my guess

Treasurer Joe Hockey has labelled tax cheats “thieves” and vowed to give the Tax Office whatever laws it needs, despite the government having slashed millions from the agency’s budget and resisting a suite of Labor reforms.

“So, in fact, Joe Hockey is giving the Tax Office neither the laws it needs to tackle tax avoidance, nor the resources to enforce existing ones.”

http://www.smh.com.au/business/joe-hockey-says-tax-cheats-are-thieves-20141009-113heo.html

On the upside, at least this article is calling out the blatant hypocrisy of this case, although almost every muttering from the libs is laced with it.

This sums up perfectly what this miserable mob are trying on with the War on the Budget

But don’t be ALARMED, tony’s here to save the day!

BEAT UP

‘Terrorist group Isis may be considering using Ebola as a suicide bio-weapon against the West, according to a military expert.’

UK Mail

you’re not allowed to be Conservative in the art world, of course”

Or, is “conservative” just another name for “talentless hack”?

Personally, I think “they” are full of shit, or are they just another incarnation of the whinging artist 🙂

I reckon yomm would like his take on Public Servants though 😉

I would also like to make my usual comment

“THE AUSTRALIAN LABOR PARTY IS A CORRUPT AND IMMORAL POLITICAL PARTY ELECTED BY CORRUPT AND IMMORAL PEOPLE”

(We’re saving ourselves, obviously; because guns don’t kill people, insurgents with guns kill people; and because doing more or less than nothing to discharge a responsibility to protect civilian populations being entrained as armed combatants isn’t an option…

“But in the mid-2000s, Moore said, the agency started to use something it officially called a “pseudo-LOA,” with weaker end-use monitoring requirements, to keep the arms flowing into Iraq quickly.”

Which brings me back to quasi-responding to El G and to SB.

I’m just not seeing how protecting civilians as civilians is furthered by (un)radically weaponising those people, nor how a universal responsibility to protect, by any and all of the (dis)organized participants, is being discharged, in that respect or more generally. Considered remotely, it perhaps looks more like a collective, even systemic, failure and surreptitious shirking, despite the aggrandstandardizing and muted manichean sentimentalities; and ultimately, the (re)iterative will to warring, itself, might be the singularly defining constant of an ongoing greater crime against humanity; and one in which ‘we’ are actively participating, by choice and by character. But, and arguably, that’s where a cultivated appreciation for ‘enemies’, a lack of resolve not to join in, a failure to remember that all people are people, perceived ‘friends’ and ‘enemies’ alike, leads: somewhere other than peace-seeking.

Which is to say, allowing a militarized mindset to define a role for civilians, or for a civilian government undertaking a humanitarian mission (with or without military elements), has things arse-about, imo; and justifications for helping(-but-not-really) civilians (to help themselves), by readily converting those very civilian populations into potential (armed) combatants rather than actually affording them protection, by their government (didn’t happen), by a coalition of the concerned (didn’t happen), is symptomatic of that defect(ion).

Then again, and going over some other old ground earlier touched upon, that’s perhaps the beauty of George’s and Barry’s contributions on behalf of a nation of peace, with interests absolutely everywhere.

And, a very similar (false-oppositional) dynamic might be, and almost certainly is, being played out at home, with subtle lowerings of thresholds (in)distinguishing between friend and foe; yer either with Team Australia and/or mission-critical pervasive civil rights curtailments and the best budget evah or….)

It’s great that Malala Yousafzai won the Nobel Peace Prize.

The victim of an organised, popular movement that shoots a 15 year old girl because she supports education for children.

Savages.

So dumpty, they`ve all let you out of the sin-bin huh.?

If I’ve told you once I’ve told you a thousand times, I’m a straight man and chase satire to get a laugh.

In the science category I get to converse with some amazing brains and discuss where we are heading. In regards to the science its pretty much settled.

As you may already know the Greens are being marginalised and some of you might want to consider your futures. I’ll be around to help Trash staff make the transition and will take questions from the floor.

I have a modicum of intelligence.

By saying ‘un australian’ Abbott is trying to avoid tearing the multicultural social fabric.

Toilet what do your workmates think of your views?

dunny @October 11, 2014 1:02 pm

yeah l agree dunny, that`s a pretty good description of most places around the country, and even when l struck the odd political fanboy/girl asking my about what l think of X-party, l used to reply, ”’Nah, they`re all a bunch of dishonest dickheads and aint worth wasting my time on.””’ That used to end any attempt of `conversion`. 🙂

When it comes to starting the ad-hom`s, Tinfoil`osy is serving himself a double helping of pot-kettle-black hypocrisy, don`t eat it too fast.
https://theguttertrash.com/2014/09/29/one-third-of-australias-largest-companies-pay-less-than-10%c2%a2-in-the-dollar-in-tax/

‘Support Progress. I use a capital ‘P’ in order to stress that there is such a thing. It happens through human imagination, ingenuity and engineering. As Engels pointed out long ago, humans are distinguished from all other animals in that we can create what we can imagine.

‘Harmony with Nature – Sustainability – have never been part of the left’s lexicon. Marxists believe in unleashing the productive forces through the further mastery of Nature and through freeing research and production from the social relations imposed by capital. This is the opposite of the ‘green’ world outlook.’

C21st Left

”””’TB has occasionally mentioned that history may repeat itself and I agree with the sentiment,”””’

#true, l have a similar/same pov

”””’but it has nought to do with war.”””’

#shows what an imbecile you truly are dumpty, you would do ya`self a much greater favor of reading much, much more, and quacking much, much less 🙂

On a different note why am I able to watch the Russian F1 Grand Prix in the next hour?

How good are Obamas sanctions ?

Biz as usual.

FMD

”””””””””the WMD, BS, and lied via Colin Powell (who was furious that he’d been conned) in the UN!””””””””’

the last l saw of Powell, he was playing the role of `furious` for sure, tho l`m not totally convinced he wasn`t in on the wmd bullshit in the beginning, he has been missing from the pbs-yank news they show here on sbs1 for quite a while

Not a bad effort from Iain.

‘Then we have the troll. Trolls should be ignored. It deprives them of the attention they seek.’

What constitutes a troll?

“should probably think before he postures up to entities which could tear him (and, by proxy ‘us’) a new arsehole…”

Sounds reasonable. But, how, exactly, would Putin perform that painful-sounding manoeuvre?

”””””You may notice Murdoch is very selective about propaganda not being behond the Paywall in the paper he lossed money on to gain influence””””’

#Listen Ricky stop hyperventilating,

ya`gotta look at the silver lining, first, Limited-News is sliding slowly down their hill of shit, all under their own steam, second, teh-oz is nothing but a bonfire for ruperts cash(to the tune of about 25-mill/pa) and third, look at their `free-samples`, is it any wonder that people won`t pay, which of course reinforces the first and second points,

yes, yes, mandy-d is and always will be a cnut

#shirt-front
sorry dunny, l`m with `our` teabags on this one,

and`ya seem wrong here dunny,

””””””””””’Pardon my language, but “shirtfront” means ‘our’ Prime Minister is a demonstrably dumb cunt”””””””’

#since when has there been any `doubt` mr-rabbit is a dumb cnut.?

That fixes the Ukraine

Next problem ?

FFS you two lack imagination, we should have a `thrilla-in-manilla` type event, the mighty `shirt-fronter` challenges the `real-deal`, 15 round combat in the `octagon`,

(or at least tie steak-knives to their toes and have a cockhead fight)

we could market it as,

Ding-Dong by the Billabong

#which sure sounds better than the usual talk-fests, and would be more entertaining

‘So why do you keep resorting to them then?’

I’m only human and thanks for encouraging me to get out more.

Abbott is starting to believe his own populist macho man spin. The tough talk is designed to go down well in a pub full of bogans. He’ll soon be grovelling just as he did with Indonesia.

…In an opinion piece published in the Russian political newspaper Pravda, the author claims Mr Abbott displays “insolence” and Australia has a “colonial chip on its shoulder”.

The language in the opinion piece, which was penned in response to Mr Abbott’s earlier comments about Mr Putin’s attendance at the G20 summit, but before his “shirt-front” declaration on Monday, gives an insight into the strong reaction expected to emerge from Russia over the coming days.
“I would advise Russia’s President Vladimir Putin to wash his hands carefully and sterilise them after shaking the paw offered to him by Australia’s Prime Minister Tony Abbott at the forthcoming G20 summit in Brisbane,” columnist Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey wrote.
“Tony Abbott displays a degree of insolence, arrogance and incompetence which mirrors the intrusiveness, belligerence and chauvinism inherent in other members of the Anglo Saxon alliance in NATO…

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbotts-views-on-vladimir-putin-spark-angry-reaction-from-russia-20141014-115lox.html#ixzz3G4YZpNC0