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SHOCK REPORT: Australia’s Business Leaders Slam Abbott’s First Year in Office!

November 5, 2014

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*****AN EXCLUSIVE GUTTER TRASH EXPLOSIVE RESEARCH REPORT!!!*****

  • Business confidence has slumped to its lowest level since the election
  • Half of all Company Directors rate the Government’s performance in its first year in office as “piss poor” or “very piss poor”
  • 75% of all Company Directors believe Abbott Government’s performance is having a negative impact on consumer confidence

Directors’ confidence in the Federal Coalition Government, including Not for Profit Directors, has slumped to its lowest level since its election in September 2013, according to the latest Director Sentiment Index (DSI).

The Index released by the Australian Institute of Company Directors (AICD) shows almost half of all directors rate the Government’s performance in its first year in office as “piss poor” or “very piss poor”.

The latest survey for the second half of 2014 shows that overall director sentiment has slipped 7.1 points since the last survey, falling back to the same level recorded in early 2013 when the former Labor Government was still in power.

The AICD says the Index is the only indicator measuring the opinions and future intentions of directors. It is based on a survey of 501 directors of private business, Not for Profit organisations and ASX-listed companies.

THE COALITION “DOESN’T UNDERSTAND BUSINESS”

The survey, which was conducted from 29 September to 12 October, found that most directors now believe that the Coalition Government does not understand business.

Almost half of all directors believe the Government’s performance had a negative impact on their business decision-making and around 75 per cent believe it had a negative impact on consumer confidence.

AICD says this continues a downward trend in sentiment that has been apparent since the Coalition took power last September.

“The DSI results highlight the challenges faced by the Government as it attempts to implement its policies, particularly those posed by the balance of power in the Senate.

An overwhelming majority of directors believe the make-up of the Senate has an adverse impact on both business confidence and consumer confidence,” Company Directors’ Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director, John Colvin said.

“Directors are more pessimistic about the future health of the Australian economy than previously, with 55 per cent expecting it to be weak over the next 12 months.

For the first time in the four-year life of the DSI, directors believe that the economic outlook for the US economy is more positive than the outlook for Asian economies.”

Directors expect the exchange rate and wages growth to further decline over the next 12 months. Inflation, the RBA official cash rate and unemployment are expected to increase.

“The DSI results show that productivity growth and taxation reform are critical issues for the Government to address in the short term. Directors have, for the first time, indicated that both these areas are a greater priority than infrastructure investment,” Colvin said.

Directors nominate multinational tax arrangements as the top priority in any comprehensive review of the tax system, followed by reforms to state levies such as payroll tax.

GST reform ranks as the third most important priority.

“It is clear that tax reform is a now significant item on the national reform agenda. Any debate about this issue needs to consider all aspects of taxation, so that Australia can adopt a robust system that will generate sufficient public revenue without compromising business investment or entrepreneurial spirit,” Colvin said.

Directors indicated broad support for the idea that the Government should provide financial assistance to select industries with a capacity for growth.

The sectors considered most worthy of Federal funding include research and development organisations, start-up companies and those operating in niche markets with high barriers to entry.

Around 60 per cent agree that no assistance should be given to those in severe market decline.

Notably, 70 per cent of directors believe Australian boards are risk averse and more than 80 per cent claim the risk of personal liability has caused them to take an overly cautious approach to decision making at some point.

The AICD’s Not for Profit  Manager Phil Butler said the Index results mirror the recent findings of the recent Not for Profit Governance and Performance Study conducted by research firm BaxterLawley for the AICD.

“A majority of directors in this Director Sentiment Index, as many as 70 per cent, agree that there is a risk-averse decision making culture on Australian boards and this reflects on what Not for Profits have expressed as a slide in innovation and risk taking,” Butler said.

“This is a reasonable pessimistic survey and has implications for the Not for Profit sector especially where funding uncertainty is alive.

“If the economy is seen not to be in good shape then it has flow on effect for philanthropy, sponsorships and other levels of Government and non-government funding sources and leads to uncertainty in business models for NFPs.”

 

 

 

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343 Comments leave one →
  1. TB Queensland permalink
    November 5, 2014 2:34 pm

    CONFIRMED!

    Then …

    TB Queensland permalink

    November 5, 2014 11:04 am

    The unemployment rate was now put at 6.2 percent in September and 6.1 percent for August, compared to a previous 6.1 percent and 6.0 percent respectively.

    And the USA are below 6% and GDP 3.5%

    Australia’s numbers are tumbling … how long have the “adults” been playing in the sand pit?

    No good pointing fingers now … this government is responsible for the slowing economy … self-fulfilling prophecy, methinks …

    I did chuckle at this tho’ …. Notably, 70 per cent of directors believe Australian boards are risk averse and more than 80 per cent claim the risk of personal liability has caused them to take an overly cautious approach to decision making at some point.

    They don’t like being responsible or liable do they … its all them unions BOO!

  2. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2014 2:43 pm

    Half of all directors rate the Government’s performance in its first year in office as “poor” or “very poor”

    I’m surprised they rated that high

    Unless of course, the other 50% rated them as “Absolutely Shithouse” or worse?

  3. November 5, 2014 2:45 pm

    But I thought the “adults” said ~

    “Australia is open for business”

    guffaw.

  4. November 5, 2014 2:45 pm

    “Absolutely Shithouse”

    🙂

  5. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 5, 2014 2:46 pm

    “The unemployment rate was now put at 6.2 percent in September and 6.1 percent for August

    Why is TB of Queensland all of a sudden concerned about unemployment at 6.2%???

    Unemployment was at 11% when he voted for Keating. The USA during the same time never had double digit unemployment.

    Unemployment at 6.2% was close to a record low for the Hawke/Keating govt.

    I bet you when unemployment was raging at 11% in 1993 when Keating won an election he would have been saying ” better the devil you know”

    Unemployment at 10% TB would vote for Labor
    Unemployment at 20% TB would vote for Labor
    Unemployment at 30% TB would vote for Labor

    And unemployed people can get stuffed.

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    November 5, 2014 2:55 pm

    Get Kneel his happy pills someone … or has he had ’em already …

    BTW, Kneel, if you can read this … its now 2014 …

  7. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2014 3:14 pm

    ““Australia is open for business””

    He forgot to clarify “the coal business” 😉

  8. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2014 3:16 pm

    And unemployed people can get stuffed.

    Let’s hope you never lose your job as paid shill then nil

  9. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 5, 2014 3:24 pm

    I lost my job during the Hawke/Keating rule during this period of time

    Sept-Dec 1991- 10.1, 10.0, 10.2, 10.4
    Jan-Dec 1992- 10.3, 10.4, 10.5, 10.6, 10.7, 11.0, 11.0, 10.8, 10.7, 11.0, 11.0, 11.2
    Jan-Dec1993- 10.9, 11.0, 10.8, 10.7, 10.8, 11.0, 10.8, 11.0, 10.7, 10.9, 10.8, 10.6
    Jan-April 1994- 10.4, 10.3, 10.3, 10.1

    Those numbers are the unemployment rate. Double digit unemployment for several years. In 1993 Keating won an election with unemployment at 11%.

    All of a sudden TB is worried about unemployment at 6.2% when he voted for Keating with unemployment at 11%.

  10. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2014 3:25 pm

    Paid Shills aren’t in big demand during global recessions nil

    #justsayin 😉

  11. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 5, 2014 3:27 pm

    Have a look at the unemployment rate for the USA during the same period.

  12. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2014 3:29 pm

    So, are you saying that yabot is as bad as you think Keating was, or worse?

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    November 5, 2014 3:37 pm

    Revisions to past months means that jobs growth in 2014 has been downgraded to 98,700 rather than 125,000, while the jobless rate as of September was 6.2 per cent instead of 6.1 per cent.

    Have a look at the unemployment rate for the USA during the same period.

    Have a look at today’s date … or do you mean USA’s rate now? ‘Cause I did …

    https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&q=USA+unemployment+rate

    One thing you can’t do is go back in time … another is to compare oranges with apples … or Obama with Keating … however we can compare the Obama results with Abbott’s …

  14. Walrus permalink
    November 5, 2014 3:45 pm

    “……however we can compare the Obama results with Abbott’s …”

    We can compare Abbott’s results with Wayne Swan’s expected policy results.

    That’d be 6.2% versus 6.5% under Wayne.

  15. TB Queensland permalink
    November 5, 2014 3:57 pm

    Or 6.2 compared to 6.1 under Abbott … I know what I’d prefer …

    .1% more against .4 less … mmmmm … “expected policy results” WTF is that?

    Still … playing around **.**% figures won’t belay the fact that the LNP has run aground and is slowly sinking like the Costa Concordia … its just shiny arse shuffling … none productive BS …

  16. November 5, 2014 3:58 pm

    “We can compare Abbott’s results with Wayne Swan’s expected policy results.”

    Or we can compare Abbott’s results with Abbott's expected policy results:

    "I am committing a future Coalition government to creating one million new jobs within five years and two million new jobs over the next decade."

    http://www.liberal.org.au/latest-news/2012/11/28/tony-abbott-press-release-coalitions-jobs-pledge

    So how's that little ol' pledge tracking?

  17. TB Queensland permalink
    November 5, 2014 4:01 pm

    But, but, but … its all Labor’s fault …

  18. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2014 4:45 pm

    That’d be 6.2% versus 6.5% under Wayne.

    I thought Swan projections were lower than that

    I know hockey ramped them up once he got in.

  19. November 5, 2014 4:51 pm

    I lost my job during the Hawke/Keating rule during this period of time

    Well that’s because you are a fucking idiot

    Have a look at the unemployment rate for the USA during the same period.

    Irrelevant… they were not modernising their archaic industry, taxation system and wage regime.. in fact nobody in the fiberal party or the US had the political balls or skill to do so…. yet they like to claim the credit…

    I think Noel puts the negative winger cunt class epitomised by squeal very eloquently..

  20. Walrus permalink
    November 5, 2014 5:15 pm

    “I thought Swan projections were lower than that..”

    Errrrrrrrrrrrrrr………………………….Nope

  21. November 5, 2014 6:21 pm

    Isn’t it cute how Walrus and Squeel and other LNP apologists simply ignore the fact that unemployment is now at a ten year high, despite Abbott promising to create one million new jobs within five years of being elected?

    LOL…. 🙂

  22. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2014 6:25 pm

    He’s simply having a one year hiatus in growth projections reb

  23. ironicman permalink
    November 5, 2014 6:43 pm

    ‘Abbott promising to create one million new jobs within five years of being elected?’

    Four years to go.

  24. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2014 7:12 pm

    Four years to go.

    1/10th of the way there then 😉

    And that’s just to get to what Labors employment rate was.

  25. November 5, 2014 7:22 pm

    1 term Tony 26 months till we boot this lot…

  26. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2014 7:22 pm

    This is pretty contemptible

  27. Tom R permalink
    November 5, 2014 7:42 pm

    And this should go down well. Waste!!!

    Australia Needs Stimulus to Avoid Recession, Morgan Stanley Says

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-05/australia-needs-stimulus-to-avoid-recession-morgan-stanley-says.html

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    November 5, 2014 8:04 pm

    Isn’t it cute how Walrus and Squeel and other LNP apologists simply ignore the fact …

    Apology … when has any Libnit apologised … bit like the Vatican … sub-branch in Canberra …

  29. TB Queensland permalink
    November 5, 2014 8:08 pm

    Jesus F Christ, TR! I just read your link … heading for recession first recession in 25 years!

  30. November 5, 2014 8:45 pm

    ” just read your link …”

    Oh you and your pesky intelligence Tom R….

  31. ironicman permalink
    November 5, 2014 8:59 pm

    From the Bloomberg link, I’m not to sure exactly what they mean.

    ‘…signs China will accelerate its economic rebalancing away from investment.’

  32. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 5, 2014 9:50 pm

    Spending your way out of recession… more debt to avoid recession…

    How’s Greece going?

  33. November 5, 2014 10:25 pm

  34. November 6, 2014 12:37 am

    ^ magfuckingnificent!

  35. ironicman permalink
    November 6, 2014 6:50 am

    ‘Spending your way out of recession… more debt to avoid recession… ‘

    That would be Keynesian.

    My guess is that China will invest in the rest of the world, primarily infrastructure, to avoid international deflation.

  36. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 8:03 am

    How’s Greece going?

    Did Greece get into the mess they in by reacting to a recession? Or is it the result of a more systematic failing.

    The evidence shows that those countries who implemented Keynesian policies fared far better.

    And your solution is… let the market rip??

  37. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 8:14 am

    Yes, it’s all coming clear now. “Waste” was really a misspeak for “Wage”

    Federal public servants face pay ‘rises’ of 0 per cent or worse

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/public-service/federal-public-servants-face-pay-rises-of-0-per-cent-or-worse-20141105-11h2di.html

    Does saying “I told you so” come across as being churlish?

  38. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 8:29 am

    Oh you and your pesky intelligence Tom R….

    I have sauces everywhere 😉

    heading for recession

    Well, so says “another prophet of disaster, who says this ship is lost”

    But they seem to be doing everything right to send us there.

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    November 6, 2014 8:42 am

    Spending your way out of recession… more debt to avoid recession…

    How’s Greece going?

    I think you’ll find its spend to avoid a depression … tighten the belt in a recession … I thought you were educated in economics, ToM?

  40. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 8:50 am

    “”Australia’s seasonally adjusted unemployment rate increased 0.1 percentage points to 6.1 per cent in September 2014, as announced by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) today””

    OK……………I was out by .15%. It is still lower than the ALPs prediction of 6.25%. And given they have absolutely no economic history of leaving behind a legacy of low unemployment only a fool could believe their figure

    http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats%5Cabs@.nsf/mediareleasesbyCatalogue/46DFE12FCDB783D9CA256B740082AA6C?Opendocument

    “”Isn’t it cute how Walrus and Squeel and other LNP apologists simply ignore the fact …””

    Nothing cute about having a Life outside countering the fact fre zone that occupies the spaces between the ears of the Lefties on here.

    Besides I had to collect a very large cheque last night.

    Gotta get ya priorities right

  41. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 8:51 am

    A picture sometimes really is worth a thousand words

  42. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 8:58 am

    only a fool could believe their figure

    So it would seem. Guess there are a lot of fools out there who believed ROFL

    http://www.budget.gov.au/2014-15/content/bp1/html/bp1_bst2-01.htm

  43. November 6, 2014 9:09 am

    “I thought you were educated in economics, ToM?”

    Yeah, ’cause it’s a science, right?

  44. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 9:10 am

    Nothing cute about having a Life outside countering the fact fre zone that occupies the spaces between the ears of the Lefties on here.

    That was kinda funny considering the mea culpa you just pulled in the same post wally 😉

  45. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 9:14 am

    Yeah, ’cause it’s a science, right?

    the code is more what you’d call “guidelines” than actual rules.

  46. November 6, 2014 9:18 am

  47. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 9:19 am

    “”This is pretty contemptible””

    The entire nation does not need to stop for a memorial service.

    If you’d like a real example of contemptible its the usual undignified conduct of your Lefty mates booing Abbott and Howard upon entering the Memorial Service and your pathetic cohorts inside standing for Grub Gillard but not for Rudd who got them elected in the first place.

    Then you had Grub Gillard refusing to sit beside Rudd (as was the seating order).

    Then you have 4 PMs who refused to stand beside each other for a photo op (Grub Gillard and Rudd, Keating and Hawke)

    Being unable to put aside differences for a memorial service is completely undignified and contemptible but not surprising

  48. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 9:25 am

    your Lefty mates booing Abbott and Howard upon entering the Memorial Servic

    Yes, I AGREE, that was in poor taste. A memorial service should be apolitical. It was to remember a person, not just a politician.

    I can understand their resentment, but not their actions.

    Then you had Grub Gillard refusing to sit beside Rudd

    Where did you hear this.

    I found it refreshing that Gillard was so warmly welcomed, and a dirty, conniving, backstabbing, self-interested person was not so warmly welcomed. It showed that many people still value character over a Character.

  49. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 6, 2014 9:32 am

    “I found it refreshing that Gillard was so warmly welcomed, and a dirty, conniving, backstabbing, self-interested person was not so warmly welcomed.”

    Who are you talking about?? Gillard or Rudd. It was Gillard who knifed Rudd after saying she was not after the top job.

  50. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 9:33 am

    Why is this gubmint so intent on destroying the best performing super funds in the country?

    There is some speculation that the government might also prohibit members and union representatives from being trustees.

    Industry Super Australia, the body representing industry super funds, is opposed to this proposal as is the Australian Institute of Superannuation Trustees.

    “Industry super funds have a balance of union and employer organisation representation on the board and their scrupulous attention to their members’ interests is reflected in their strong and sustained outperformance over retail funds, typically owned by the banks,” said ISA’s deputy chief executive Robbie Campo.

    “The ‘representative trustee model’ used by industry super funds is consistent with the way pension funds are governed across the developed world.”

    …….

    “International evidence also points to employee or member representation providing a better alignment with members’ interests.”

    http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/2014/11/05/far-will-abbott-government-go-super-changes/

    But who needs lefty stuff like ‘evidence’?

  51. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 9:41 am

    “”Why is this gubmint so intent on destroying the best performing super funds in the country?””

    Its not………its an enquiry from David Murray. It is also aimed at widening the default fund clauses of Awards that currently only include Union sanctioned funds therefore their currently is no choice of super.

    In some cases the awards prohibit contributions to a members own SMF.

    And that is just Wrong !

  52. TB Queensland permalink
    November 6, 2014 9:53 am

    If you’d like a real example of contemptible its the usual undignified conduct of your Lefty mates booing Abbott and Howard upon entering the Memorial Service and your pathetic cohorts inside standing for Grub Gillard but not for Rudd who got them elected in the first place.

    I actually agree with that statement, Wally … I thought it was in very poor taste … all round …

  53. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 10:00 am

    It is also aimed at widening the default fund clauses of Awards

    I was under the impression that you could choose any fund for super? I know that has been the case in places I have worked in recent years.

    Yes, it’s an enquiry , and you don’t think the gubmint has telegraphed its wish to destroy anything remotely linked to unions do you?

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    November 6, 2014 10:01 am

    Chuckle, just saw YOUR comment, TR …

    But who needs lefty stuff like ‘evidence’?

    And since when has this government been a global citizen … let alone a government FOR the people …

    … its an enquiry from David Murray That explains it then … another ideologue …

    And that is just Wrong !

    Not according to … Australian Institute of Superannuation Trustees and Industry Super Australia … all the governmnet need to do is amend the clauses that you mention (I like CHOICE too) … not rewrite the law to suit the banks … and add to the already obscene profits for just shining their arses …

  55. armchair opinionator permalink
    November 6, 2014 10:04 am

    We can finally see an example of a libertarian government in action, one practising minimalist government, leaving people free to live as they wish – Somalia!

  56. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 10:13 am

    “……….leaving people free to live as they wish ”

    Which means you are against Choice in Super

  57. armchair opinionator permalink
    November 6, 2014 10:14 am

  58. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 10:17 am

    “I was under the impression that you could choose any fund for super? I know that has been the case in places I have worked in recent years.”

    Thats true in the vast majority of Awards. However some dont allow it. Which could prove catastrophic for an SMF holding negatively geared property if you join an organisation not realising it.

  59. ironicman permalink
    November 6, 2014 10:18 am

    ‘A picture sometimes really is worth a thousand words’

    I prefer a thousand words, I don’t understand the joke.

  60. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 10:21 am

    From Kitty’s link……..

    “………..A 2010 agreement by the Future Fund appears to limit any income tax on trades in specific distressed debts to $136,000 a year, no matter how large the profits from a $500-million portfolio in Europe…………..”

    So the government is avoiding its own taxes……………….Could someone please assist me as I cant quite recall who the Federal Treasurer was back then ……………..LOL

  61. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 10:47 am

    However some dont allow it.

    I hadn’t realised that wally. Not something I agree with, as I prefer keeping all my work super in the one fund.

  62. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 11:21 am

    Ooooops……..my bad. Its in certain EBAs.

    But leaving aside the issue of corruption it does appear there is no dispute that members were denied choice.

    And that is certainly bad policy. Especially as many people these days have SMFs and growing because you can now set one up for free and pay as little as $800 p.a. to have a tax accountant do ALL the paperwork involved to keep it running.

    “Mr Bracegirdle, 48, told the commission on Monday that after he began working for Toll Holdings he discovered in 2005 that it was compulsory for his superannuation contributions to be paid to TWU Super.

    In his evidence, Mr Bracegirdle said he asked a union delegate in 2009 whether he could choose his own super fund and was told no.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/twu-members-forced-to-join-super-fund-that-paid-fees-to-top-officials-royal-commission-told-20140623-zsiw1.html#ixzz3IF7d7Ve5

  63. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 11:37 am

    Not as bad as having an entire Award locked in, but even having it tied to an EBA is not vary fair on peoples choice.

    Speaking of which

    The Electrical Trades Union said five years ago Electrical Group Training (EGT) put forward an agreement under the WorkChoices legislation, which was locked in place until June this year.

    It said the company had refused to negotiate a new agreement, meaning apprentice wages had been frozen and apprentices were expected to pay their own training costs.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-06/union-claims-electrical-apprentices-being-exploited/5870142

  64. armchair opinionator permalink
    November 6, 2014 11:51 am

  65. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 6, 2014 11:56 am

    I have to comment. Since Abbott was elected lefties are all of a sudden concerned about the unemployment rate.

    Unemployment was at 4.3% when Howard lost the election and was at 5.8% when Rudd lost the election.

    That is a large increase in unemployment under Rudd/Gillard.

    As usual lefties support a team not principle.

  66. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 11:57 am

    Wow. Didn’t they claim in Parliament that they were unable to get this, but it turns out they had it all along?

    Government did not accept EU offer to treat infected health workers

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-06/50-australian-volunteers-to-be-sent-to-sierra-leone-fight-ebola/5870496

  67. armchair opinionator permalink
    November 6, 2014 11:59 am

  68. November 6, 2014 11:59 am

    “As usual lefties support a team not principle.”

    Doesn’t that make you a ‘lefty’ too then kneel?

    You are the prime example of (blindly) supporting a (different) team irrespective of principles.

  69. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:00 pm

    I have to comment.

    yays …

  70. November 6, 2014 12:01 pm

    Pretty sure Abbott’s ebola-denialisms were modelled on the FoxNews histrionic version.

    Funny that he’s been forced to concede in more recent times (with nary a whimper).

  71. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:03 pm

    Interesting comment.

    I am obviously anti-labor.

    I find the sudden concern about the unemployment rate by lefties quite sickening.

    Not much was said when unemployment exploded under Rudd/Gillard. It went from 4.3% to 5.8% under Labor.

    That is a huge increase.

  72. armchair opinionator permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:05 pm

  73. TB Queensland permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:11 pm

    Which could prove catastrophic for an SMF holding negatively geared property if you join an organisation not realising it.

    GUFFAW!

    ============================================

    I prefer a thousand words, I don’t understand the joke.

    We know …

    _________________________________________________

    set one up for free and pay as little as $800 p.a. to have a tax accountant do ALL the paperwork involved to keep it running.

    Shakes head … $800? And the rest … free? You shiny arse its not!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Wally

    But leaving aside the issue of corruption it does appear there is no dispute that members were denied choice.

    TR

    It said the company had refused to negotiate a new agreement, meaning apprentice wages had been frozen and apprentices were expected to pay their own training costs.

    ==============================================

    Government did not accept EU offer to treat infected health workers

    More lies and deceit … its like watching an economic and (inter)national reputation virus slowly eat away the fabric of Australian society and values … Libola … ?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Unemployment was at 4.3% when Howard lost the election and was at 5.8% when Rudd lost the election.

    And still a lot lower than the 6.2% of today … unemployment rates are only one of the indicators that we have been pointing out over the last couple of days …

    Here’s another … US1.00 = AUD$0.857475

  74. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:11 pm

    Not much was said when unemployment exploded under Rudd/Gillard.

    Wow, just wow 😯

  75. November 6, 2014 12:14 pm

    His obstinate monocularity is legendary, TomR.

  76. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:19 pm

    “And still a lot lower than the 6.2% of today “

    ALP/Bowen predicted it would be 6.25% by now. So unemployment is lower than what Labor said.

    And 6.2% unemployment is close to a record low for the Hawke/Keating govt

  77. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:20 pm

    His obstinate monocularity is legendary

    Some might argue mine is tending that way too. 🙂

    But I would be hoping my outright stupidity didn’t approach those levels lol

  78. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:24 pm

    So unemployment is lower than what Labor said.

    The sad fact is, we really don’t know what the unemployment numbers really are, because the libs made so many from the statistics office …. unemployed

  79. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:31 pm

    Too funny.

    Now we are back to saying Howard/Abbot, whatever, manipulated the unemployment rate.

    It reminds me of the first lie (of many) that you leftists told me.

    Howard introduced a new rule. You only have to be employed for one hour to be removed from unemployment.

    Lefties tell nothing but lies.

  80. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:33 pm

    Now we are back to saying Howard/Abbot, whatever, manipulated the unemployment rate.

    Where was that claimed?

  81. armchair opinionator permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:40 pm

    “…Howard introduced a new rule. You only have to be employed for one hour to be removed from unemployment…”

    A very shit rule, and typically devious and tricky

  82. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:49 pm

    It was Keating who introduced it ao, to bring us in line with global practices.

    Howard slammed him at the time, but used it to the hilt once in power

  83. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 6, 2014 12:50 pm

    Unbelievable.

    Working one hour/week to be classified as employed is used by all OECD countries. If you work one hour/week in the USA you are employed.

    Don’t argue with me. Bring it up with the people who made up this rule.

    But Howard did not invent this rule as you lying leftist scum continually claim.

    It is an international convention.

  84. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 6, 2014 1:17 pm

    I’m quite comfortable with the government’s approach on Ebola.

    How many aircraft does the EU have?
    Hospitals operated by the EU?

    5 he EU would be a middleman in getting nonEU people treated. They don’t have the capacity to do it themselves

  85. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 6, 2014 1:23 pm

    Dear Leftist Scum

    Here is how the ABS determines the unemployment rate and Howard had nothing to do with it

    http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/products/FBE517ECA9B07F63CA257D0E001AC7D4?OpenDocument

    The International Labour Organization (ILO) defines unemployed people as those who are: not working one hour or more; and actively seeking work; and currently available for work………………………………..While a one hour cut-off point could be argued to be insufficient to sustain a family or person financially, there are several reasons for including everyone who works at least one hour a week as employed. “

  86. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 1:32 pm

    I’m quite comfortable with the government’s approach on Ebola.

    You mean lying to us? 😯

  87. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 1:33 pm

    Now we are back to saying Howard/Abbot, whatever, manipulated the unemployment rate.

    Where was that claimed?

    Just in case you forgot nil 😉

  88. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 1:39 pm

    he EU would be a middleman in getting nonEU people treated. They don’t have the capacity to do it themselves

    So your argument is, the EU is lying to us? 😯

  89. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 6, 2014 1:39 pm

    Well they seem to be copping a bit of flak for not accepting the EU assurance, but the EU would only get Germany on the phone – “Can you fly an Australian with Ebola to Hamburg?”

    To the French – “The Germans are busy, they said we should try you, can you look after an Australian who’s got Ebola?”

    To the Italians – “I hear you’ve got a world class health service, can you admit an Australian with Ebola to one of your outstanding hospitals?”…”yes, it’s a male….OK, I’ll try the Greeks”

  90. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 1:47 pm

    yomm, you should stick to hating unions.

    Here’s one of those horrid little linky things for ya’ (youse?)

    EU prepared for Ebola threat

    http://www.enca.com/eu-prepared-ebola-threat

    Wednesday 30 July 2014 – 2:59pm

  91. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 6, 2014 1:59 pm

    Great!!

    EU, official to Australian official – “The bad news is – Germany, France, Italy and Greece are full and can’t take any non-nationals with Ebola, the good news is that we can get him into a nice Romanian hospital and he’ll be flown there on a Slovenian aircraft, on Tuesday week.”

    Yep, the EU would look after our people!

  92. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 2:05 pm

    “Shakes head … $800? And the rest … free? You shiny arse its not!”

    Well that just goes to show that you dont look hard enough do you. I have directed some of my own clients to such and they love it.

    You do not need to pay thousands to have an SMF.

    That’s a FACT

  93. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 2:07 pm

    Yep, the EU would look after our people!

    Yea yomm, the EU would not treat a person helping fight Ebola

    A song for youse 😉

  94. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 2:10 pm

    “GUFFAW!”

    Why ??????????????

    There are plenty of people on average incomes in their middle age still working (kids left home) with property in an SMF.

    Nothing unusual for a couple to leverage their super account balances via property.

    I detect the usual Leftist envy north of the Tweed…………………….Again

  95. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 2:10 pm

    “Dear Leftist Scum”

    LOL 🙂

  96. ironicman permalink
    November 6, 2014 2:40 pm

    You mean ‘Pseudo Leftist Scum.’

  97. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 6, 2014 2:43 pm

    ‘I’m afraid Bucharest General Hospital ran out of sheets. We’ve transferred the Australian with Ebola to Riga Municipal Hospital . Air Latvia will look after the transport.

  98. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 2:55 pm

    yomms swinging in the breeze

    His teams been caught out, again ROFL

    Those third world countries like the European Union. Couldn’t organise a piss up in brewery could they

    Basically, we got told by our gubmint nobody would look after our people.

    I was incredulous, and even showed examples of other countries who were not able to look after their own people having them looked after around Europe.

    Now we find out why, help was available all along. yabots been running scared, and allowing an epidemic to fester without our country doing all it can to help.

    What a gutless, selfish mob we all must seem to the rest of the world

  99. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 6, 2014 3:08 pm

    If the EU says – “we’ll look after your people in a member’s hospital ” … would you be satisfied if the hospital was in Cluj-Napoca or Jurmala?

  100. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 3:18 pm

    If the EU said they will look after our people, I will take them at their word.

    Much in the same way yabot has now taken the word of his fellow countrymen

    Although I note that they have set themselves at several arms length from anything happening

    Bravely Bold Sir yabot

  101. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 6, 2014 3:32 pm

    Perhaps I’m not so cavalier about looking after the welfare of people we send into disease prone areas.

    I think it is responsible to ensure that the care people receive good care if they contract serious illness in the course of their service.

    The UK or Germany are probably at the right standard.

    Having seen a few medical facilities in some less developed EU countries (hopelessly understaffed, supply own sheets & bedding, have relatives provide food and feed the ill, grimly decorated – like a horror movie, 100 years of grime)… I don’t think the right decision would have been to accept that “the EU will look after them”.

    The standard of many EU hospitals would be regarded as unacceptable in Australia.

    But that’s just me, I’m old fashioned and fussy when it comes to hospitals.

  102. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 3:40 pm

    “If the EU said they will look after our people, I will take them at their word.”

    If it was your son or daughter you wouldn’t

  103. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 3:53 pm

    A way to go to reach a million. Another way to put it would be, a way to go to get things back as they were under Labor 😉

    The Coalition promised one million jobs in five years. In its first year in office it has delivered 105,500. In a year in which Australia’s working-age population grew 1.9 per cent, the number of Australians with jobs grew just 0.9 per cent.

    http://www.theage.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/employment-to-population-ratio-paints-a-bleak-jobs-picture-20141106-11hsye.html

  104. November 6, 2014 3:55 pm

    NEWSFLASH FOR NEIL:

    The employment to population ratio has sunk to a ten-year low.

    Apart from a brief blip in March, the employment to population ratio has been sinking during the Tony Abbott’s entire first year in office.

    The proportions haven’t been that low since December 2004. They were never that low at any time during the Rudd/Gillard government or at any time during the global financial crisis.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/employment-to-population-ratio-paints-a-bleak-jobs-picture-20141106-11hsye.html#ixzz3IGFTp8gJ

  105. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 4:00 pm

    nya nya I won reb 🙂

    (are the adolts in charge yet?)

  106. November 6, 2014 4:02 pm

    “nya nya I won reb”

    You do realise people have been instantly banned for less….???!!

  107. November 6, 2014 4:03 pm

    ””””70 per cent of directors believe Australian boards are risk averse and””

    #nothing new. Years ago Gerry Harvey gave an opinion on Aust boards and upper management. He reckoned they all over-paid themselves and were of extremely `average` talent that produced equally average results.

    ____________

    #this part is horse-shit

    ””””more than 80 per cent claim the risk of personal liability has caused them to take an overly cautious approach to decision making at some point.”””’

    There is sweet fcuk-all `punishment` in our system, they never go to jail, and have well padded golden parachute`s.

  108. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 4:20 pm

    RBC Capital Markets strategist Michael Turner:

    Even with the ABS (Australian Bureau of Statistics)’s best efforts to get the seasonal adjustment right, it will be a while before faith can be restored. So market has not really moved a lot on this and we will take it with a bag of salt, not just the grain.
    *****************************************************************************************
    JPMorgan chief economist Stephen Wolters:

    Given all the noise we’ve had in the last two or three months and the confusion around the treatment of the seasonal numbers, it’s a decent result, but not particularly much of a surprise.

    I doubt it has any material implications (for the Australian dollar). But I think the Reserve Bank would look at this and take a bit of comfort, given that unemployment didn’t go up and some of those other indicators look pretty firm.
    **********************************************************************************************
    CBA chief economist Michael Blythe

    Today’s version of the numbers looks quite encouraging, there’s a decent lift in employment and full time employment. It looks like unemployment is starting to level out in the low sixes. At face value, it should be seen at a quite a decent result, one that looks more in tune with other surveys like job vacancies and business surveys.

  109. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 4:23 pm

    “He reckoned they all over-paid themselves and were of extremely `average` talent that produced equally average results. ”

    To an extent agreed

    “There is sweet fcuk-all `punishment` in our system, they never go to jail, ….”

    Not quite right Mr Tea Bagz

    http://asic.gov.au/about-asic/media-centre/find-a-media-release/

  110. November 6, 2014 5:08 pm

    Come`on blubbers, we both know its only a `micro`percentage of those that should be in the gulag. And even if they do go to the gulag, it is nowhere near as long as it should be.

  111. November 6, 2014 5:33 pm

    ”””the proportion of those not working who choose to define themselves as unemployed.””’

    #its a big relief peter martin is satisfied with the ABS (Australian Bureau of Survey)’s data, and that people can ”’choose to define themselves as unemployed”’

  112. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 6, 2014 5:35 pm

    “They were never that low at any time during the Rudd/Gillard government or at any time during the global financial crisis.

    Fact is unemployment is lower than what Bowen/ALP predicted.

    http://www.treasury.gov.au/PublicationsAndMedia/Publications/2013/PEFO-2013/Report/Economic-Outlook

    Table 2 says unemployment would be at 6.25% by now according to Bowen. Strangely the table says it will fall to 5% in 2015-2016.

  113. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 5:36 pm

    That’s probably correct but ASIC under all governments has been underfunded for years. In my view the current annual fee that is paid for having a company is way way too low. For a Pty Limited company its around $500 to buy the company (https://www.ecompanies.com.au/?gclid=CLiYws-t5cECFREDvAodoWYAWg) plus just $236 (off the top of my head) annual fee.

    It should be much higher to provide funds for ASIC. Afterall it should be user pays

  114. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 5:37 pm

    “Strangely the table says it will fall to 5% in 2015-2016.”

    Yep…………and the Budget will be in Surplus no doubt……….yet again as promised ROFLMAO

  115. armchair opinionator permalink
    November 6, 2014 5:39 pm

    “…It was Keating who introduced it ao, to bring us in line with global practices…”

    My apologies, I thought Neil was telling us that Howard brought the new rule in.

    Even if the other countries have been doing that, it is still a shit rule, meant to make the numbers look better than they are. Talk about creative accounting! one hour a week = employed!

  116. November 6, 2014 5:43 pm

    ”””I am committing a future Coalition government to creating one million new jobs within five years and two million new jobs over the next decade.””’

    And anybody that believed that is a gullible turkey. Jobs will continue to go down the chute for the foreseeable future, and neither `team` has the talent to recognize the problem, little own solve it.

  117. November 6, 2014 5:51 pm

    ””’creative accounting! one hour a week = employed!””’#BINGO

    and unless that `one-hour`s pay-rate is several hundred dollars/hour, then they`re still struggling financially.

  118. November 6, 2014 6:04 pm

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/awkward-the-photo-that-captures-the-close-encounter-of-julia-gillard-and-kevin-rudd-at-gough-whitlams-memorial-20141106-11hu01.html
    ha ha blubbers,

    joolya got all stubborn and refused to sit with kevin07, but l keep hearing from team-cheerers that joolyas better than kevin07(for his grudge holding)

  119. November 6, 2014 6:06 pm

    “little own solve it.”

    I think you mean “little lone”, or even “letter loan”.

  120. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 6:11 pm

    You do realise people have been instantly banned for less….???!!

    Help, I’m being repressed! 🙂

    My apologies, I thought Neil was telling us that Howard brought the new rule in.

    nil was making a claim that he hasn’t yet cleared up yet

    Now we are back to saying Howard/Abbot, whatever, manipulated the unemployment rate.

    It sort of appeared out of nowhere that claim.

  121. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 6:16 pm

    “…It was Keating who introduced it ao, to bring us in line with global practices…”

    Its the OECD ( read mostly European) methodology.

    If you really want to measure what is effectively lost GDP (unemployment) I would have thought total hours worked divided by total hours available for work (or something like that) is a much better measurement of potential wealth creation.

    But I’m sure the Europeans know better than us dumb fucks in the Southern Hemisphere

  122. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 6:16 pm

    and neither `team` has the talent to recognize the problem

    Yet it is simply the growth rate of jobs under Labor.

    #justsayin 😉

  123. Tom R permalink
    November 6, 2014 6:19 pm

    Its the OECD ( read mostly European) methodology.

    From my understanding, it was brought in mainly to make the unemployment rate in the African countries not look so horrific.

    It’s time we split it up and measured under-employment as well and used that similarly, as that is an issue which has been spiraling out of control under ALL gubmints

  124. Walrus permalink
    November 6, 2014 6:35 pm

    “”It’s time we split it up and measured under-employment as well and used that similarly””

    No argument here

    The Underemployment Rate is more appropriate.

    1 hour’s work to qualify as employed is just a sick joke. Its not relevant

    Even most Awards (if not all) require a 4 hour minimum pay per shift. So how can you count someone doing 4 hours in a month as employed ?

    Fucking ridiculous measure

  125. November 6, 2014 6:41 pm

    As much as I hate to say it. I agree with Walrus.

  126. November 6, 2014 6:41 pm

    or we could just get the numbers straight out of the welfare database #TooFcukingSimple

  127. November 6, 2014 6:42 pm

    Happy Birthday “Clint”

    That’s gold Ricky! 🙂

  128. November 6, 2014 7:11 pm

    ””””it was brought in mainly to make the unemployment rate in the African countries not look so horrific.””””

    lf this is true, then you should understand fully my dislike of both `teams` for allowing it in the first place, and allowing it to remain. Only a bunch of total fcuktards would place so much importance on something so stupid.
    ______

    l always thought it was a yank metric brought in to placate teh-usa blubbers, l don`t think they were kissing the euro-trash arse at the time.

  129. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 6, 2014 7:14 pm

    “Happy Birthday “Clint”

    And don’t shorten “Felicity” to “Flick”

  130. TB Queensland permalink
    November 6, 2014 7:22 pm

    I think you mean “little lone”, or even “letter loan”.

    Don’t perpetuate ignorance, ToSY … 🙄

    The frase is “let alone” …

    What is it with all these mixed metaphors and misunderstanding of colloquial sayings …

    Three generations of teachers … who took the only degree offered at their level … ?

    School teachers should be OP 1 (or whatever convoluted method of assessing your children’s – and ours – future) … Queensland is 12 or better …

  131. November 6, 2014 7:22 pm

    Did nanny roxon make kevin07 a birthday cake.? Ricky

  132. November 6, 2014 7:25 pm

    ””’The frase is “let alone””’
    you`re spoiling my fun with Tinfoil`osy #GranmaPolice

  133. public toilet permalink
    November 6, 2014 7:31 pm

    I think tosy was taking the piss out of an old rochshifterism, TB.

  134. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 6, 2014 7:34 pm

    yes, the marital arts expert!

  135. November 6, 2014 7:41 pm

    Marshall arts you mean!

  136. public toilet permalink
    November 6, 2014 7:51 pm

    El Gordo’s confidante…

  137. ironicman permalink
    November 6, 2014 7:58 pm

    ‘I think you mean “little lone”, or even “letter loan”.

    Or lettuce alone.

  138. November 6, 2014 8:08 pm

    You haven’t been around long enough to understand egg.

  139. ironicman permalink
    November 6, 2014 8:10 pm

    No and I haven’t seen the rockshifter for some time.

  140. TB Queensland permalink
    November 6, 2014 8:15 pm

    I think tosy was taking the piss out of an old rochshifterism, TB.

    I know, mate, reread my comment – perpetuate is a clue?

    Sarc*

    Actually ’tis a good job, sreb, is so lenient or we would have missed the egg lettuce …

  141. TB Queensland permalink
    November 6, 2014 8:18 pm

    Big storm here at the mo’ …

    But we suspect a long drought coming up …

    Thank goodness for all those pipelines and the desal plant by ALP … they might just come in handy in the next 12 months or so …

    Beattie The Tart had the best idea a fleet of desal ships owned by COAG …

    Whoooooo! Gotta go!

  142. November 6, 2014 8:42 pm

    “I think tosy was taking the piss out of an old rochshifterism”

    Yes. I checked in from the races and couldn’t resist.

    #bagzofstoopid

  143. November 6, 2014 8:44 pm

    Speaking of the races, i took some pictures that Tom of Melbourne might be interested in. I’m just not sure they qualify for the artsy thread.

  144. November 6, 2014 8:45 pm

    I’ll put ’em up somewhere once the phone recharges.

  145. November 6, 2014 10:23 pm

    Dear Leftist Scum

    Crawl back into your tory playground trough boy

  146. November 7, 2014 12:40 am

    Stalinesque?…for the dimwits, that’s not supposed to be a compliment.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11212072/Russian-actor-and-Putin-critic-found-dead-in-Moscow.html

    If so, I wouldn’t want to be a ‘witness’ who’s now on the record.

    No doubt, slain by Vladimir’s evil crack core of Russian Scientists? (please confirm, kneel)

  147. November 7, 2014 12:44 am

    Strong words from Alexei.

    Notably at far more self-risk from Vlad than a certain Australian PM’s posing on the world stage with plastic rhetoric @vlad.

  148. November 7, 2014 1:01 am

    mr-rabbit better be hoping the new-ussr sends enough ss officers to restrain vlad during next weeks shirt-fronting

  149. November 7, 2014 1:36 am

    “Or lettuce alone.”

    Of course, I would never mean to insinuate anything, because I know you would never construct insinuations.

    I can run a line goebbelslike in its insidiousness if I feel that sandlines are warranted.

  150. November 7, 2014 2:45 am

    For all you hypocritical teabag fucktards wondering whey labor heart landers were booing the most unworthy PM in Australian political history and former prime miniature Honest John “children overboard ” Howard…

    I mean its not like the adult behaviour of the grown ups who hold misogynistic sighs,chaff bags & veil hypocrisy in disingenuous platitudes for progressive men with envious legacies they are not fit to lick the boots.of.;… who dragged Australia kicking and screaming out of the stone age.

  151. November 7, 2014 7:24 am

    Well said Ricky!

  152. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 9:51 am

    Yeah whatever RP……………………….Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    There are plenty of ALP supporters and members totally disgusted with the booing too

  153. November 7, 2014 10:45 am

    Who…? “Walrus’s friends…?”

    LOL…

  154. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 10:56 am

    “”Who…?””

    There are plenty of ALP supporters outside of this Blog that actually can maintain some dignity for a memorial service.

    I know that might will shock you.

  155. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 7, 2014 11:09 am

    “There are plenty of ALP supporters outside of this Blog that actually can maintain some dignity for a memorial service”

    Not really.

    What happened is normal behavior for an ALP supporter.

  156. November 7, 2014 11:38 am

    Yeah whatever RP……………………….Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Yes I do knowledge you are asleep.. wake the fuck up to yourself

    There are plenty of ALP supporters and members totally disgusted with the booing too

    Didn’t say I did it personally..I said I understand why…. hope you are better at tax evasion than you are at selective comprehension. 🙂

    Setting the “Tone”

    Adults in the playground displaying moral superiority

    Well said Ricky!

    Reb the sanctimonious hypocrisy of right wing rim licking teabaggers is stratospherically without peer… moralising on an empty tank without a pot to piss in

    Not really…What happened is normal behavior for an ALP supporter.

    Another wonderful contribution by our resident sycophant trough cake decorator, trolling the depths of Murdoch toilets as a feces finger painting propaganda parrot

  157. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 7, 2014 11:51 am

    And normal behaviour resumes

    THE AUSTRALIAN LABOR PARTY IS A CORRUPT AND IMMORAL POLITICAL PARTY ELECTED BY CORRUPT AND IMMORAL PEOPLE

  158. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 12:04 pm

    Are we proposing he supports Cory ?

    Because plenty on here support the party of this creep

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Orkopoulos

  159. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 12:05 pm

    “Adults in the playground displaying moral superiority”

    So you equate a protest with a memorial service ?………………….Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  160. November 7, 2014 12:16 pm

    Who is ‘we’?

  161. November 7, 2014 12:34 pm

    you just have to admire the gaul of the tory whores turning up at the service of a genuine australian statesman and expecting to be taken into the hearts of the people who really did appreciate the efforts of the great man………. they should have turfed brandis, abbott et al back out into george street to be interviewed by the ever increasing homeless………

  162. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 7, 2014 12:39 pm

    Yes

    The violent left turns up.

    And the homeless are there because of Abbott666

    THE AUSTRALIAN LABOR PARTY IS A CORRUPT AND IMMORAL POLITICAL PARTY ELECTED BY CORRUPT AND IMMORAL PEOPLE”

  163. November 7, 2014 12:47 pm

    i think ricky pann has already exposed neil’s underbelly satisfactorily……

  164. Meta permalink
    November 7, 2014 12:47 pm

    (A perhaps suitable panegyric which someone, possibly Sergei Petrov, prepared earlier for Tony ‘Humanitarian Mission’ Abbott and ilk; just to allay Neil’s latest concerns about due payment of last respects.)

  165. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 7, 2014 12:53 pm

    “to be interviewed by the ever increasing homeless………

    So Abbott666 is responsible for this?

    And people wonder why i am soooooooo anti-ALP.

    Unemployment was at 4.3% before Australia in its wisdom said we needed to get rid of Howard.

  166. ironicman permalink
    November 7, 2014 12:57 pm

    Neil its not the ordinary ALP members, it was the pseudo left scum doing the booing. They are indecent.

  167. November 7, 2014 1:06 pm

    abbort and brandis should be booed wherever they go…they are a disgrace

  168. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 1:15 pm

    “…..back out into george street to be interviewed by the ever increasing homeless………”

    ROFLMAO …………..Mmmmmmmmmm……………….I forgot about there being no homeless up until Abbott got elected.

    Ever increasing ?……on George Street ya reckon………………………that’s rather strange since the unemployment rate in New South Wales has actually dropped since State and Federal Labor got booted out office.

  169. November 7, 2014 1:29 pm

    Alan Jones listener comments on the funeral.

  170. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 1:32 pm

    “…..abbort and brandis should be booed wherever they go…they are a disgrace…”

    So I take it you believe Whitlam would have taken part in the booing if he could have.

    I think he had a much more dignified approach to things otherwise he would have turned up at the funeral of Sir John Kerr just to boo

    But a complete fucking moronic douche bag like yourself wouldn’t really know the meaning of the word “dignity”

  171. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 7, 2014 1:39 pm

    I would have booed Fraser, he was the most dishonest of the lot. He finds his legacy so humiliating that he’s constantly looking for ways to suck up.

    There’s a time and a place for booing, and that’s wherever Fraser happens to be.

  172. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 7, 2014 1:41 pm

    ..and I presume Fraser wasn’t booed, yet he’s the one who spoiled Whitlam’s opportunity for a full term.

  173. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 1:51 pm

    “..and I presume Fraser wasn’t booed, yet he’s the one who spoiled Whitlam’s opportunity for a full term.”

    Very good point ToM.

  174. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 1:55 pm

    In fact Fraser had Kerr appointed to the Privy Council

  175. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 7, 2014 2:05 pm

    Yes, if the event was a commemoration of Whitlam, rather than an ALP rally, then that c**t Fraser should have been the major object of scorn.

  176. November 7, 2014 2:09 pm

    looks like the young lieberal tory whores are out in force today….

  177. November 7, 2014 2:16 pm

    I think kneel has gone, for the moment.

    The other trio aren’t Young Liberals, just to clarify.

  178. November 7, 2014 2:17 pm

    Kneel is just an anti-ALP spambot & can be taken accordingly.

  179. November 7, 2014 2:17 pm

    hehe thnx toilet

  180. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 7, 2014 2:20 pm

    Yep i am anti-ALP. And for good reason.

    Apparently we had no homeless people until Abbot666 was elected according to ALP deadbeats.

  181. November 7, 2014 2:35 pm

    http://sallymcmanus.net/abbotts-wreckage/
    here is what you voted for…..how is that going for you??

  182. November 7, 2014 2:42 pm

    passing the torch.jpg

  183. November 7, 2014 2:45 pm

    THE AUSTRALIAN LABOR PARTY IS A CORRUPT AND IMMORAL POLITICAL PARTY ELECTED BY CORRUPT AND IMMORAL PEOPLE… wank wank Yep i am anti-ALP. And for good reason.
    Apparently we had no homeless people until Abbot666 was elected according to ALP deadbeats.

    Can’t you just smell Abbott and Murdoch\s cock on this tory sperm spittoons breath… he must walk around like he lost his horse… what a disgraceful intellectual pygmy…

    Alan Jones listener comments on the funeral.

    Alan being played like a fiddler… same guy calls as Isaac Hunt. Often mentioned his brother Yorrick; “Yorrick Hunt Alan”

    Are we proposing he supports Cory ?

    No but I wrote him a love song,,,, here’s my dedication…

    they should have turfed brandis, abbott et al back out into george street to be interviewed by the ever increasing homeless………

    Priceless.. I like this bloke 🙂

    looks like the young lieberal tory whores are out in force today….

    Yeah Blissbomber….Wearing their faux outrage and sanctimonious moralist hypocrisy like a cock ring for the fiberaly impotent jerk circle

    Neil its not the ordinary ALP members, it was the pseudo left scum doing the booing. They are indecent.

    Didn’t take you long did it sweetheart? How’s that vaginal rash coming along? Considered Euthanasia?

  184. November 7, 2014 2:45 pm

    “looks like the young lieberal tory whores are out in force today….”

    Walrus is an old codger as is egg who also suffers from gender identity issues.

    We get all sorts around these parts.

  185. November 7, 2014 3:02 pm

    well looks like ricky has a good solid brain

  186. November 7, 2014 3:06 pm

    how do i post a jpeg here ?

  187. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 7, 2014 3:09 pm

    “here is what you voted for…..how is that going for you??

    And Labor can only fund things by borrowing money from China.

  188. ironicman permalink
    November 7, 2014 3:21 pm

    ‘Didn’t take you long did it sweetheart?’

    The Marxists I hang out with think your lot is shit.

  189. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 3:44 pm

    “Walrus is an old codger….”

    I’ll have you know I still buy green bananas

  190. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 3:48 pm

    So you are also full of shit as well Pissbomber or Pissgurgler whatever.

    The very first point on your Link is bullshit as is usual with Lefties

    There was a request to extend the Building RC

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-07/union-corruption-inquiry-time-frame-extended/5796246

  191. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 4:01 pm

    “Labor’s spokeswoman for women, Claire Moore, backed up Senator Bernardi’s denial, saying it was “a bit harsh” to say he had condoned domestic violence.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/cory-bernardi-denies-condoning-domestic-violence-after-headlock-comments-20141107-11iiv8.html#ixzz3IM7iNJEt

  192. November 7, 2014 4:40 pm

    And Labor can only fund things by borrowing money from China.

    Here comes another number 2 trough boy

    The Marxists I hang out with think your lot is shit.

    She’s back

    So you are also full of shit as well Pissbomber or Pissgurgler whatever.
    The very first point on your Link is bullshit as is usual with Lefties
    There was a request to extend the Building RC

    Bliss bomb.. you must be effective if you have managed to piss Wally off in two posts.. he hates being reminded that he voted for Abbott…. He is after all a professional tax evader 🙂

    I’ll have you know I still buy green bananas

    I’ll pay that 🙂

    Walrus…
    Like Rabbit, Whine, Cunt, Auschwitz Abetz, Conman, Andrews, Brand Ass, and all the other fucktard fiberals in this cacophonous cavalcade of chlamydia cock cheese called a coalition….

    People hate Corgi B Nasty because it just cuts to the chase saving valuable time….

    Just assume 99.9% of what comes out of Corgi’s corn hole is a drivel of delusional diatribe and you will be on the money

  193. TB Queensland permalink
    November 7, 2014 4:43 pm

    “Labor’s spokeswoman for women, Claire Moore, backed up Senator Bernardi’s denial, saying it was “a bit harsh” to say he had condoned domestic violence.”

    And what do you think, wally?

  194. TB Queensland permalink
    November 7, 2014 4:45 pm

    I must say I never have to read, RP’s, comments twice …

    And where’s , sb, these days … ?

  195. November 7, 2014 4:47 pm

    “I must say I never have to read, RP’s, comments twice …”

    That’s a coincidence. I never feel compelled to read them at all. 😉

  196. November 7, 2014 4:54 pm

    Of course Bernardi doesn’t ‘condone’ domestic violence, but this latest just dovetails nicely with the rest of his ultra-conservative thinly veiled religious nutjobbery.

    I’m sure Abbott loves him speaking his ‘mind’, because then Tony doesn’t have to go on the record as a blatant crackpot himself. When Bernardi sounds off like this, all of the right sections of the base hear the dogwhistle.

  197. November 7, 2014 4:55 pm

    Pretty sure Kevin Andrews made disparaging comments about defacto relationships in the last week or so too.

    There is an underlying theme amongst them all.

  198. November 7, 2014 5:16 pm

    I’m sure Abbott loves him speaking his ‘mind’, because then Tony doesn’t have to go on the record as a blatant crackpot himself

    Corgi is Rabbots “look over there” diversionary dullard…
    He actually makes Abbott look smart.

    And what do you think, wally?

    He’s busy digging himself into a hole defending Corgi… he must have pictures of Corgi in Lycra…

  199. TB Queensland permalink
    November 7, 2014 5:23 pm

    There is an underlying theme amongst them all.

    Mmmmm … certainly is:

    “I play dominos, you play dominos, we play domino-o-o——-o-o-o-o-s”.

    I notice, Wally, doesn’t have a personal opinion (yet) … its not fkn rocket science …

  200. TB Queensland permalink
    November 7, 2014 5:25 pm

    That’s a coincidence. I never feel compelled to read them at all.

    I read yours too, ToSY, they’re so simple and easy … 🙂

  201. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 5:35 pm

    “Wally, doesn’t have a personal opinion (yet) …”

    Sounds like one needs to read the entire proceedings to get the context according to the ALP’s spokeswoman.

    Too busy watching ASX to worry about what Cory is upto. A certain beef producer I have a large chunk in went up almost 10% today. Thank you China beef deal and goodbye Indonesia!

    Sure Cory might be ultra weird and nasty but the LNP never formed a coalition with the nastiast of them all that being the refugee killers of the Greens and the likes of Milne and Sarah Hyperventilating Young.

    So pick ya poison.

  202. TB Queensland permalink
    November 7, 2014 5:50 pm

    So pick ya poison.

    Yer weaselling, Wally …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Thank you China beef deal and goodbye Indonesia!

    Shouldn’t you be thanking the ALP, Wally … negotiations have been going on for ten years … seven under ???

    Now do you believe that head-locking anyone – let alone your partner (wife) is OK?

    Like I said … ’tis not rocket science …

  203. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 6:06 pm

    Well…………………some women can get very out of control. I’ve seen a few drunk one fight each other and in order to break it up guys standing nearby have headlocked them to pull them off each other.

    So I guess there can be circumstances albeit rare.

  204. Walrus permalink
    November 7, 2014 6:08 pm

    “Shouldn’t you be thanking the ALP, Wally ”

    Ah you kidding. Think Indonesia and Packaged and Live Cattle trade…………………….Nope

  205. TB Queensland permalink
    November 7, 2014 6:27 pm

    So I guess there can be circumstances albeit rare.

    Yer reckon … hero … FMD!

    I wonder what the, Kneel, would say … ?

    Ah you kidding. Think Indonesia and Packaged and Live Cattle trade…………………….Nope

    I was talking about negotiating a trade agreement … not animal abuse …

  206. November 7, 2014 6:41 pm

    you were right ricky…..walrus is totes bonkers……

  207. November 7, 2014 7:04 pm

    ””””””””Kevin Andrews, politician from down south and who was instrumental in overturning Territory laws for rights for the terminally ill, now is saying married couples stay together better and longer than de facto couples,” Purick began.

    “Listen here you pooncy, pasty faced person from some pissant place that no one cares about, half my electorate are probably in de facto relationships and they are happy, normal living people who do their very best for their families and their communities. They work hard, try their best and believe that you judge people by their deeds

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/05/kevin-andrews-slammed-by-nt-politician-for-comments-on-de-factos
    ”””””””””””””””’
    nice to see the nt are still not impressed with canberra fairytales, or hob-goblins

  208. ironicman permalink
    November 7, 2014 7:09 pm

    ‘I was talking about negotiating a trade agreement … not animal abuse …’

    Its a good point by Walrus, a bigger market which doesn’t require live cattle, is terrific news for the producers. This also allows us the opportunity to revive an old industry, slaughter houses.

  209. November 7, 2014 7:12 pm

    ””””Whereas in an informal relationship one party may be committed and one may not be.””””

    Fascinating, teabag andrews is preoccupied with peoples `personal` circumstances, which really only effects themselves, while the teabag-party do all they can to have `non-committed-employment`, which is dragging people, small-biz and economy downwards. #FcukingImbeciles

  210. November 7, 2014 7:16 pm

    Blissbomber, meet teabagz. You two will have much in common.

  211. November 7, 2014 7:17 pm

    ”””revive an old industry, slaughter houses.”””
    #won`t happen

    and `smart` countries don`t allow their `value-adding` to be off-shored anyway

  212. November 7, 2014 7:23 pm

    #china beef

    l can`t see the blubbering one acknowledge `katter` or others, lettuce alone, teabag-lite, but `albo` will be having some fun with it #blubbering-teabags

  213. ironicman permalink
    November 7, 2014 7:23 pm

    Bagz a third of China’s agricultural land is polluted, there is a desperate need for what we have to offer. You know, clean and safe produce from Oz agribusiness.

  214. November 7, 2014 7:28 pm

    yes andrews has red raw knuckles and a constant drool of imbecility from his slack jawed gob…….he is long disgraced, but makes an accurate poster boy for the current crop of tory whores…….and all who sail in her…

  215. November 7, 2014 7:40 pm

    ””””Mr Bernardi sparked anger after telling Women’s House Shelta that they were not “experts” and there were times it was appropriate for a man to put his partner in a headlock.

    However, Senator Bernardi today denied he endorses using headlocks on women.””””

    The cory crank back-peddled pretty quick, l bet the minista for `women` is staying mum too

  216. November 7, 2014 7:47 pm

    I’m sure Cory’s a woman-headlocker. He’s a LIberal, after all.

  217. November 7, 2014 8:00 pm

    it`s nice that `sallymcmanus` maintains the team-cheerers `list` (which `our` team-cheerers drop here on a pretty regular basis) unfortunately, the team-cheerers continually over-look the fact; that if kevin07s +joolyas `team` didn`t self-destruct all under their own steam in the first place, there would be no need of the mr-rabbit `list`, and dropping it here continually is a bit of a waste, most here don`t like either `team`, and the rest are teabag wingnuts

  218. November 7, 2014 8:16 pm

    “I’m sure Cory’s a woman-headlocker. He’s a LIberal, after all.”

    No doubt. But I’m sure if she’s in the kitchen doing the ironing and breastfeeding the kids I’m sure she’ll be fine.

  219. November 7, 2014 8:22 pm

    ”””if she’s in the kitchen doing the ironing and breastfeeding the kids I’m sure she’ll be fine.”””#rofl

  220. November 7, 2014 8:26 pm

    “No doubt. But I’m sure if she’s in the kitchen doing the ironing and breastfeeding the kids I’m sure she’ll be fine.”

    As long as the kids aren’t older than 10. 😯

  221. ironicman permalink
    November 8, 2014 7:43 am

    The FTA with China a done deal. state run enterprises not frowned upon.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-china-fta-deal-close-says-andrew-robb-20141107-11irfo.html

  222. Tom R permalink
    November 8, 2014 9:55 am

    Asked about the possibility of cheaper Chinese labour being allowed into the country under the FTA, Mr Robb said “it won’t happen, I can reassure Australians”.

    We’re screwed then

  223. TB Queensland permalink
    November 8, 2014 10:00 am

    Its a good point by Walrus,

    Let me explain again … the negotiations have been going on for 10 years … do you really think that that moron Rob Andrews and his wacky partner Barnaby Joyce could pull this off in twelve months … as usual they are taking credit for the hard work done during four government terms two of them ALP …

    The only things Barnaby and Rob could pull off is each other!

  224. TB Queensland permalink
    November 8, 2014 10:08 am

    “it won’t happen, I can reassure Australians”.

    We’re screwed then

    Yeah, TR, my thoughts exactly when I saw him say that last night.

    You tend to reverse anything the present government says … y’know … we won’t send troops on the ground to Iraq … only 200 … 🙄

  225. November 8, 2014 11:40 am

    The only things Barnaby and Rob could pull off is each other!

    Priceless… 🙂

    We’re screwed then

    Totally… Pretty much everything they say has a 100% inverse accuracy factor..
    Take the answer.. invert it to an opposite value and there in the answer….

    Promise multiplied by fuckwits delivering it
    divided by the truth
    multiplied by exaggeration as a known factor (lie)
    multiply to the power of the known lobbyists
    add the cumulative corporate interest
    rounded off to the advantage

    = eleventy fiberal

  226. ironicman permalink
    November 8, 2014 2:25 pm

    The idea is to allow the Chinese state run business to build Australian infrastructure. They will bring their own bullet trained team.

    Australians should get work along the way, with award wages and conditions.

  227. ironicman permalink
    November 8, 2014 2:51 pm

    ‘Let me explain again …’

    No that’s alright we already knew that. Its been a long drawn out process over a decade, with the two major parties acting in bipartisan fashion.

    Now we have two new leaders in president Xi and the monk putting everything in fast forward. Revolution is in the air.

  228. Tom R permalink
    November 8, 2014 2:57 pm

    Australians should get work along the way

    Ah, the ‘trickle down’ effect. But this time, from communists 😯

  229. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 8, 2014 3:20 pm

    Too funny reading comments from supporters of the party who destroyed the lives of many Northern Territory cattle farmers.

  230. Meta permalink
    November 8, 2014 3:37 pm

    (Good Lord’s rainbows, funny, too, is thematic recommendation for removal of ‘Asia’ and ‘sustainability’ from the Australian education diet; right on the cusp of a great, big, new drought and a great, big, new FTA.)

  231. Tom R permalink
    November 8, 2014 3:50 pm

    destroyed the lives of many Northern Territory cattle farmers.

    Wouldn’t the responsibility lie with the organization responsible for ensuring that correct practices are adhered to? I mean, the farmers paid out good money for that to occur, for nothing it is now revealed.

  232. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 8, 2014 4:37 pm

    Surely there would have been a better way than what the ALP did. Shutting down the whole industry seems over the top.The ALP seems to specialise in destroying the lives of people.

    I wonder how many refugees in UNHCR camps were denied places in Australia because Labor allowed the people smugglers to sell our refugee spots?

  233. November 8, 2014 6:07 pm

    “it won’t happen, I can reassure Australians”.

    We’re screwed then

    Yeah, TR, my thoughts exactly when I saw him say that last night.

    ””reverse anything the present government says””

    #ditto @TR @TB #can`t trust a fcuking word this lot say, particularly when lt comes to shafting those at the bottom, and feather-bedding the rich/corporate

  234. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 8, 2014 6:23 pm

    “can`t trust a fcuking word this lot say, particularly when lt comes to shafting those at the bottom

    Yep. Rudd/Gillard shafted the refugees in UNHCR camps

    “and feather-bedding the rich/corporate”

    Labor made lots of money for the people smugglers. maybe $1M/boat.

    What happens under Labor is usually the opposite of what supporters believe.

  235. November 8, 2014 6:42 pm

    .The ALP seems to specialise in destroying the lives of people

    Squeal is a broken record, a lying repetitious bore

    Now we have two new leaders in president Xi and the monk putting everything in fast forward. Revolution is in the air.

    I wish you would bite the bullet You really re a fucking idiot

  236. ironicman permalink
    November 8, 2014 6:42 pm

    ‘Well, Tony, if it doesn’t rain then we’re all in a world of strife, aren’t we?’

    Barnaby Joyce

  237. November 8, 2014 7:12 pm

    Mr-rabbits been in power for more than a year now, unfortunately our resident clap-trap peddlers and reality-deniers haven`t awoken to that little fact yet. lts still all but, but, but, teh-alp with them. #teabags And its quite funny the amount of `steel` being erected in brisbane, they must think the public needs protecting from the `real-deal` too.

  238. Tom R permalink
    November 8, 2014 7:18 pm

    Rudd/Gillard shafted the refugees in UNHCR camps

    You do unnerstand yabot cut the immigration intake don’t you nil?

    Who’s shafting whom?

  239. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 8, 2014 7:45 pm

    “Wouldn’t the responsibility lie with the organization responsible for ensuring that correct practices are adhered to?

    Still didn’t need to shut down the industry. Personally i would like to see the cattle slaughtered here and the meat sent overseas. But Simon Crean does not agree with what Labor did

    http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/business/cattle/alec-chair-simon-crean-opposed-live-exports-to-indonesia-ban-in-2011/story-fnkeqfz1-1227112003796

    THE new head of the live ­export industry body, Simon Crean, opposed Labor’s decision to shut down the Indon­esian cattle trade in 2011…………..Having been a part of the government that closed the market to the trade — a decision I thought shouldn’t have been taken — I felt something of an obligation to work with the industry to help move it forward,” he said.

  240. November 8, 2014 8:44 pm

    If you think Indo abattoirs are badly regulated, unsanitary, unethical corrupt and inhumane …wait till China get a hold of our cattle….

    its for domestic consumption so it will be open slather…. Its will hardly be subject to the same quality control and standards accreditation required by the western, euro and Asian capitalist cartels corporations manufacturing products for exports at starvation wages 🙄

    Squeal just fuck off… under labor under labor…folks you head of the tardis…
    Squeal is the turdis…:roll:

  241. ironicman permalink
    November 8, 2014 9:08 pm

    Ricky the Chinese want their beef slaughtered and packaged in Australia, its aimed for the burgeoning middle class.

  242. November 8, 2014 9:27 pm

    Ricky the Chinese want their beef slaughtered and packaged in Australia, its aimed for the burgeoning middle class.

    Oh I thought I saw something somewhere about live exports? Sorry i’m not up to speed..I see FTA and just turn off…

    So pre packaged exports of Beef.? Thats a huge win for Australia…well till the US fucks us over 😦

  243. ironicman permalink
    November 8, 2014 10:33 pm

    Little chance of that happening, its called free trade.

  244. November 8, 2014 11:49 pm

    You are kidding right? Free trade? Look up the history of America on many occasions across multiple markets in their “free market” dumping of heavily subsidised produce on markets. They have done it before and they will do it again….

    http://usmfreepress.org/2013/04/29/meat-subsidies-strip-other-food-industries-to-the-bone/

    http://perc.org/articles/big-meat-and-big-government

    http://kdhnews.com/news/world/in-a-mustang-us-diplomat-sells-trade-deal-in-eu/article_4703203e-e536-5ebe-99b8-09ec0ec9239c.html

  245. ironicman permalink
    November 9, 2014 6:42 am

    ‘You are kidding right?’

    Yeah.

  246. Tom R permalink
    November 9, 2014 7:56 am

    it’s all grodo does. So full of shit

    A FEDERAL MP has turned one of Tony Abbott’s favourite phrases against the prime minister by likening his government to an “evil death cult” over its billion-dollar deal to sell live cattle to China.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/wilkie-slams-govt-as-evil-death-cult/story-e6frfku9-1227115724519

  247. ironicman permalink
    November 9, 2014 9:32 am

    A million live cattle to China is not feasible and the demand is great, so there is an opportunity for secondary industry to be revitalized.

  248. ironicman permalink
    November 9, 2014 9:46 am

    The US is our second biggest market for beef.

    ‘Frozen grassfed beef continues to make up a majority of Australian beef sent to the US. However, chilled beef exports have been on the rise for the past decade. Chilled grassfed beef exports increased 12% year-on-year in 2013, to a record 33,348 tonnes swt.

    ‘Manufacturing beef made up 70% of total Australian beef exports to the US in 2013.’

    MLA

  249. November 9, 2014 9:46 am

    A million live cattle to China is not feasible and the demand is great, so there is an opportunity for secondary industry to be revitalized.

    Like squeal, Why do you even bother coming here?

  250. ironicman permalink
    November 9, 2014 9:48 am

    Actually I was wondering the same about you.

  251. November 9, 2014 10:56 am

    Unlike you … I dont get banned maybe ask yourself why 🙄

  252. ironicman permalink
    November 9, 2014 11:24 am

    The thing that separates Trash from AIMN is robustness and the occasional temporary banning keeps me on my toes. The blogmasta has a fine touch.

  253. November 9, 2014 12:08 pm

    You can turn off the charm egg, I’m immune.

    Besides you may find that your so-called temporary banning become more permanent in the future if you persist in derailing threads with your pet obsession.

  254. November 9, 2014 12:57 pm

    The thing that separates Trash from AIMN is robustness and the occasional temporary banning keeps me on my toes. The blogmasta has a fine touch.

    Sorry Reb … as tedious as it is…rather than engage they just get the sign now

    You can turn off the charm egg, I’m immune.
    Besides you may find that your so-called temporary banning become more permanent in the future if you persist in derailing threads with your pet obsession.

    My point in question, precisely

    and back on topic…. when the business council and the significant neo conservative cheer squad wake up to the fact that they were ripped off with all promise and no delivery…

    They and our resident rambling obnoxious omelette may want to stop using his standard go to’s in his pattern of pervasive petulantly puerile

    The infrastructure illusion.. damming murdochraphy opinion in the UnAustralian…

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/infrastructure-pm-abbott-is-taking-credit-for-laborlaunched-projects/story-fn53lw5p-1227115998603

  255. ironicman permalink
    November 9, 2014 1:19 pm

    What does the story say, I can’t get past the door?

  256. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 9, 2014 1:21 pm

    Just listened to Shorten on Insiders and how much better Labor would be if in power re:unemployment.

    Labor has had no success in reducing unemployment when in power. Gough doubled the unemployment rate. Hake/keating had no success. Unemployment was at 11% when Keating won an election. And Rudd/Gillard increased the unemployment rate by 35%.

    Labor has never and will never have any success with unemployment because their policies create unemployment.

  257. November 9, 2014 1:43 pm

    Just listened to Shorten on Insiders …..

    and I wont add anything other than utter vitriolic, regurgitated inane ass speak from the toilet that I inhabit

    What does the story say, I can’t get past the door?

    delete your browser cookies

    Chrome.. Privacy, Content settings , all settings and data…search bar up the top.. and delete the Australian… works for most pay walled sites…

  258. Tom R permalink
    November 9, 2014 2:00 pm

    And Rudd/Gillard increased the unemployment rate by 35%.

    Meanwhile, the rest of the world sky-rocketted.

    Only a fool could/would argue that Labor failed in it’s response to hte GFC

    What does the story say

    Surprisingly, it offers up facts. But, von olsen does that on occasion

    Opposition infrastructure spokesman Anthony Albanese has labelled it a “magical infrastructure re-announcement tour”. He is right, notwithstanding the obvious political rhetoric.

    These are the facts. When Labor came to power Australia was 20th in the OECD for infrastructure spending as a per­centage of gross domestic product. When Labor lost office we were first.

    Although this statistic includes public and private funding, the shift in focus to infrastructure during Labor’s time in office is equally undeniable when it comes to public only spending. In 2007 it was $132 a person; when Labor lost it was $225. For all the good that can be said about the Howard years, investment in infrastructure wasn’t a highlight.

    We can argue about whether the shift was funded by debt or even whether it was well spent. But Abbott cannot claim to have re-prioritised infrastructure, because he has not.

    And given the realities of debt-fuelled spending on infrastructure in the Abbott years to come, a political attack that Labor didn’t have the money to pay for infra­structure is equally applicable to the Coalition in the here and now.

    The day before the Coalition’s first budget, Albanese’s office handed journalists a list of $50 billion worth of infrastructure projects already under way or fiscally accounted for from Labor’s time in office. I remember it.

    On the day of the budget the Coalition — presumably unaware of this — handed out its own nearly identical list, claiming a “record $50bn” investment by Australia’s new infrastructure PM.

    It was a blatant attempt to deceive, with the aim of garnering positive media coverage.

    It does of course start with a dig at Gillard and the Carbon Price, but, apart from that, seems to be fairly straight reporting of facts. Surprising, given the location.

  259. Google is your fiend permalink
    November 9, 2014 2:01 pm

    What does the story say, I can’t get past the door?

    Google
    ‘Infrastructure PM’ Abbott is taking credit for Labor-launched projects

    The first result should open.

  260. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 9, 2014 2:13 pm

    I thought most infrastructure spending was done by the States. But talking about being deceitful

    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/government-makes-howard-program-its-own-20090616-cg8q.html

    “The Rudd Labor government has put its own stamp on one of the Howard government’s major programs, Auslink, by successfully renaming it.

    Auslink was the former coalition government’s main vehicle for building major roads and railway lines throughout Australia.

    The Rudd government took it over and added to it, calling it the Nation Building Program.

    The Rudd govt spent millions and millions of dollars changing all the Auslink signs around the country into Nation building signs

  261. November 9, 2014 2:27 pm

    I thought most infrastructure spending was done by the States. But talking about being deceitful

    Gee compelling Infrastructure PM defense by trough boy 🙄

    It does of course start with a dig at Gillard and the Carbon Price, but, apart from that, seems to be fairly straight reporting of facts. Surprising, given the location.

    Indeed Tom..

    People like the above fucktard are incapable of absorbing systematic truth as they live in the indefensible cycle of the defending the indefensible polemicogoround

  262. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 9, 2014 2:32 pm

    Bu the way Van Olsen is wrong. Labor spent nothing more than what was budgeted in Costello’s last budget. If Labor did not spend more than this they did nothing.

    http://www.budget.gov.au/2007-08/ministerial/html/dotars-31.htm

    AusLink 2

    The Australian Government will invest $22.3 billion in Australia’s land transport system from 2009–10 to 2013–14, under the second stage of its National Land Transport Plan—AusLink 2. AusLink 2 is the biggest investment in land transport infrastructure ever made by an Australian Government. It is 41 per cent larger than the current AusLink programme, which runs from 2004 to 2008–09. The Australian Government is now investing $15.8 billion under the current programme from 2004 to June 2009, including $250 million in extra funding that the Government will spend on AusLink Strategic Regional projects in 2006-07″

    This was in the forward spending in the last Howard/Costello budget. Labor just changed the name from AUSLINK to Nationbuilding program.

  263. ironicman permalink
    November 9, 2014 2:51 pm

    ‘…works for most pay walled sites…’

    That’s theft.

  264. ironicman permalink
    November 9, 2014 3:02 pm

    Thanks TR and fiend.

    Having read the whole article I see there is no mention of bullet trains, so he has no idea what is going on.

    ‘Build it and they will come.’

    Onselen

  265. Tom R permalink
    November 9, 2014 3:52 pm

    You really are a moron of infinite potential grodo

  266. November 9, 2014 4:10 pm

    That’s theft. Thanks TR and fiend.
    Having read the whole article I see there is no mention of bullet trains, so he has no idea what is going on.
    ‘Build it and they will come.’
    Onselen

    …Yet you read it anyway. fucktard 🙄
    Not my fault Murdoch is archaic and decades behind the ABC…
    really Egg.. lets summarise all you have

    Bullet train
    China
    Cooling
    Infrastructure PM

    You really are a moron of infinite potential grodo

    Indubitably but don’t leave squeal out…

    This was in the forward spending in the last Howard/Costello budget. Labor just changed the name from AUSLINK to Nationbuilding program.

    Moron 🙄

  267. November 9, 2014 4:11 pm

    Soory wrong fuckwit..

  268. ironicman permalink
    November 9, 2014 4:22 pm

    ‘lets summarise all you have’

    Good coverage of my portfolios. What exactly do you stand for?

  269. Tom R permalink
    November 9, 2014 4:22 pm

    Indubitably but don’t leave squeal out…

    nil’s potential has been reached. It’s the same old “bad Labor, hate youze all” shit day in, day out. I mean, look at the above, cos the libs promised something (ROFL) but Labor actually delivered, then it is obviously all because of the libs.

    but grodo finds new and interesting ways to expose it’s stupidity on a daily basis. For a long time, it was a one trick pony. But now, with the bullet train, live/dead cattle, Chinese who knows what? it has found a whole new world to spread its tentacles of idiocy across

  270. November 9, 2014 5:00 pm

    Good coverage of my portfolios Inane stupidity. What exactly do you stand for?

    You have no portfolios you delusional dress wearing knob.. other than posting annoying bullshit in other peoples blogs, i’m pretty sure you are an unemployed nobody with lots of time on your hands…

    I was on the front line in Gloucester filming and standing with the locals against AGL CSG last weekend. I don’t see any of your article’s or work published?

    Put up or shut up? where is your work?

    nil’s potential has been reached. It’s the same old “bad Labor, hate youze all” shit day in, day out.

    There is no potential.. he is inanely repetitious and predictable.. just more of the same really.. a scroll over scumbag troll at best…

  271. November 9, 2014 5:47 pm

    ”””’other than posting annoying bullshit”””’

    so you think the `dead-prattle` market should be left solely to Limited-News.?

  272. Tom R permalink
    November 9, 2014 6:48 pm

    so you think the `dead-prattle` market should be left solely to Limited-News

    Why try to break into a market already dominated by a true genius of the form?

  273. November 9, 2014 6:50 pm

    “That’s theft.”

    No.

    It’s a middle finger to a monopolist who doesn’t ‘get’ the technology, but is probably quite content taking the money of ideological limpets who’d bother paying for The Australian.
    Only a certain type of enthusiast would pay to read the propaganda spiced with occasional news, but more often just opinion masquerading as ‘current events’, on offer there.

    Likely as not, most of the viewership of The Bolt Report pay to subscribe to the digital Australian.

  274. November 9, 2014 6:52 pm

    “It’s a middle finger to a monopolist who doesn’t ‘get’ the technology”

    Yep!

  275. Meta permalink
    November 9, 2014 6:58 pm

    (Not that it’s really on topic; but, and rhetoricallyspeaking, would Cattle Decapitation still be able to deliver their thoughtprovoking soundscapes with a better ‘gag’ in place?)

  276. November 9, 2014 7:05 pm

    Cattle Decapitation are actually a notable anomaly of the genre, IvIeta.

    Most people can’t get past the gore to appreciate the ‘message’.

    Very nice blokes too, having met them.

  277. November 9, 2014 7:11 pm

    ””””’Likely as not, most of the viewership of The Bolt Report pay to subscribe to the digital Australian.””””

    Correct. His blog-trolls won`t behind the paywall with him. Highly likely his show won`t go to a `pay`channel either but remain a curse on network-10s misery.

  278. November 9, 2014 7:12 pm

    The recent efforts of our government (willingly enabled by an opportunist Opposition, who well recognise that they’ll be back in power one day, with the same magnificent laws to exploit) to legislate the strangling & manipulation of our online interactions is fraught.

    It is all happening far too easily, without appropriate scrutiny & seemingly engineered with deliberate future unaccountability in mind.

  279. November 9, 2014 7:48 pm

    The Bolt report (report..think about that irony for a second ) and his many compliant sico fart opinionists masquerading as prudent journalistic “real news snouts” are just advertisement click bait for the sale of faux outrage…

    People like squeal are hooked on hate… Its their Big Tobacco smack….

    They need somebody to hate and blame for their own inane boring lives where they lie in servitude to consumerism. The mundane treadmill of spoon fed lazy thinking keeps them deluded and drugged on the propaganda polemic of conformist idiot ology while the real game passes them bye…

    Murdoch wants the ABC one because they have ABC open and local in a comprehensive VPN, multiplatform convergence network. This is the opposite to the central desk of the dictator in propaganda murdocracy central, who destroyed local radio and strangled free to air to feed his cable monopoly…

    The NBN is a vital threat to his over capitalised news corpse. A smart businessman who is a prolific content provider would look at the NBN as a glorious opportunity for big returns way into the future.. but not Rupert….

    there are 35, 000 of us using Netflix in Australia now… so fuck him

    Re the cookie hole… they will never close it because if they did they would never get click through and nobody whatsoever would go there. The take up rate for News limited service across the corporation is dwindling and dying…

  280. November 9, 2014 7:53 pm

    Agree dunny, but has been going on since 2003 or so anyway.
    Homeland/nsa/spooks have been splitting our wordpress, yahoo, gmail, twiiter, dumb-fcukbook in southern california. lts how snowden got all the info.

  281. Meta permalink
    November 9, 2014 8:05 pm

    (Mmmm, it’s fascinating how arguably outrageous things done clandestinely become excepted and accepted as the new norm when hiding the original activity and its consequents, literally and legally and financially, becomes practically impossible. Or, ‘you’ are the ‘problem’, so you can ‘pay’ for all ‘your’ new-old ‘security’.)

  282. November 9, 2014 8:23 pm

    (Throwing-off the shackles of team-cheering and becoming unrusted, one rapidly learns they are all a pack of bastards, unworthy of our trust, tax-dollars or retweets.)

  283. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 9, 2014 8:36 pm

    nil’s potential has been reached. It’s the same old “bad Labor, hate youze all” shit day in, day out. I mean, look at the above, cos the libs promised something (ROFL) but Labor actually delivered

    I don’t think that is correct. If its in the forward estimates its in the forward estimates. It takes many years to plan for these things. You can only give Labor credit for increase in spending if they increase what is in the forward estimates.

    Same goes for Abbott. What did Rudd/Gillard put into the forward estimates? If Abbott is only spending what Rudd/Gillard put into the budget i am sure you would say he is only doing what Labor would have done.

    The only thing Labor did was change the name from AUSLINK to Nation Building program. And then spent millions of dollars wasting money by changing all the signs.

  284. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2014 8:51 pm

    Kneel, what we would really like to know is whether you … as Wally does … condone putting a woman in a headlock … as Cory Bernardi commented … ?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    And on your comment above …

    You can only give Labor credit for increase in spending if they increase what is in the forward estimates.

    The $8 billion to the RBA was not in forward estimates AND the $12 billion for the additional F35’s were not …

    That’s a total of $20 billion added within months of the Abbott government taking power … BOOM!

  285. Neil of Sydney permalink
    November 9, 2014 9:04 pm

    “AND the $12 billion for the additional F35’s were not … “

    I assume they will be paid for when they arrive after 2020. And they were not additional F35’s. We were always going to order 50-70 F35s depending on the number we could afford.

    This stupid idea that we would have an airforce of 14 F35’s just shows you how stupid Labor supporters are.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/kevin-rudd-signs-off-on-purchase-of-14-f-35-joint-strike-fighters/story-e6frg8yo-1225803790418

    Cabinet’s national security committee has backed the RAAF’s plan to buy at least 72 of the fifth generation fighters at a projected cost of at least $12bn but Australia’s F-35’s will be bought in batches with the first aircraft expected to be delivered in 2014…………..This will fulfil our White Paper commitment to acquire three operational squadrons comprising not fewer than 72 aircraft,” Senator Faulkner said.”

    And which party is Faulkner from?

  286. November 9, 2014 9:19 pm

    The only thing Labor did was change the name from AUSLINK to Nation Building program. And then spent millions of dollars wasting money by changing all the signs.

    Proves my point in spades chained to hatred

    (Throwing-off the shackles of team-cheering and becoming unrusted, one rapidly learns they are all a pack of bastards, unworthy of our trust, tax-dollars or retweets.)

    I Fuck off wingnut.. throw a bit of oil in that ear…no wonder you cheer for Clive and Lampshade…

  287. TB Queensland permalink
    November 9, 2014 11:45 pm

    Kneel, what we would really like to know is whether you … as Wally does … condone putting a woman in a headlock … as Cory Bernardi commented … ?

  288. ironicman permalink
    November 10, 2014 7:08 am

    ‘chained to hatred’

    That’s more like your MO sunshine.

  289. Walrus permalink
    November 10, 2014 9:44 am

    “” … as Wally does … condone putting a woman in a headlock …””

    Listen you stupid old fuckwit I said ………..”So I guess there can be circumstances albeit rare.”

    I did not say it shpuld be carried out as a matter of course as you imply.

  290. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2014 9:58 am

    I did not say it shpuld be carried out as a matter of course as you imply.

    Yet you say it can be carried out? Or am I mistaken?

    Perhaps you can posit a scenario?

    And perhaps others can posit another suitable reaction 😉

  291. November 10, 2014 10:05 am

    “So I guess there can be circumstances “

    Like when she refuses to do the ironing, n such…?

  292. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2014 10:12 am

    Well, when you put it like that reb ……

  293. November 10, 2014 10:33 am

    I hate ironing.. It dictates my wardrobe choice…

    chained to hatred’
    That’s more like your MO sunshine.

    Sorry to disappoint you darling, but that transparently feeble attempt 4 attention don’t work… no cheap rise from me i’m afraid so back in your box or under you;re rock or wherever it is you hide.

    . I don’t do hatred or grudges and am not about to start now…
    Although you test the tensile strength of most everyone’s resolve rail here consistently…

  294. November 10, 2014 10:35 am

    Wally.. even if they are female tax officials? bet you put a few of them in a metaphoric headlock in a battles 🙂

  295. ironicman permalink
    November 10, 2014 10:35 am

    That is a matter of opinion.

  296. Walruses for Headlocks permalink
    November 10, 2014 10:38 am

    “Like when she refuses to do the ironing, n such…?”

    No like when 2 women are going helter skelter at each other in a bar screaming, kicking, trying to head butt each other, throwing punches at each other and going completely berserk.

    Then I can understand the need for somewhat drastic action just to stop them from really injuring each other.

  297. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2014 10:38 am

    I hate ironing.

    lol. There’s a game for that

  298. Walruses for Headlocks permalink
    November 10, 2014 10:39 am

    “Perhaps you can posit a scenario?””

    Its further up the tread on Friday’s comments.

  299. Walruses for Headlocks permalink
    November 10, 2014 10:41 am

    “”….bet you put a few of them in a metaphoric headlock in a battles””

    Actually they are smarter than the males at the ATO

  300. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2014 10:47 am

    So it’s not a womans thing then wally. Just a generic thing? So thats what cory was talking about was it?

    We seem to have lost all ‘context’ here. I wonder why that is?

    Mind you, there are better ways to subdue a person than a headlock, and far less dangerous to the person receiving it.

  301. November 10, 2014 10:49 am

    That is a matter of opinion.

    In your case, as displayed by the results a matter of fact

    No like when 2 women are going helter skelter at each other in a bar screaming, kicking, trying to head butt each other, throwing punches at each other and going completely berserk.

    I have actually seen that at a gig I was playing at once in the late 80’s in a pub on Manly Corso… (Ivanhoe Hotel from memory?) . Come to think of it…one woman was put in a headlock..albeit for a short amount of time by a bloke who was with her… Wildcats on the piss shrieking Expletive Lingo that would make a warfie blush. 😕

  302. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2014 10:54 am

    Its further up the tread on Friday’s comments.

    Thanks wally. On reading the articles, it appears that this has either been blown out of proportion, or cory doesn’t explain himself too well. Probably a bit of both

    It really wasn’t the right place to bring it up imo, as restraining people from breaking the law seems a far cry from the topic that was taking place. Why confuse an already highly volatile subject?

  303. Walruses for Headlocks permalink
    November 10, 2014 11:00 am

    “”……….as restraining people from breaking the law seems a far cry from the topic that was taking place””

    Actually that reminds me of the many instances when I have been driving thru Kings Cross and along Darlinghurst Road there have been quite a few times over the years where I have witnessed both sexes being pushed quite forcefully (enough to sting) up against a wall by the beat cops.

    Then the instances of cops with people face down on the footpath with a knee heavily pressed into their back.

  304. Walruses for Headlocks permalink
    November 10, 2014 11:05 am

    “…as restraining people from breaking the law seems a far cry from the topic that was taking place “”

    And that was the example I gave.

    Unfortunately it didn’t fit the example TB wanted so he ignored my exact context and threw in a bucket and a half of his home grown stupidity in his implication that I saw it as quite naturally OK.

  305. Tom R permalink
    November 10, 2014 11:14 am

    Unfortunately it didn’t fit the example TB wanted so he ignored my exact context and threw in a bucket and a half of his home grown stupidity in his implication that I saw it as quite naturally OK.

    That does appear to have been the case. I apologise for jumping into the bandwagon without the full story. It just reeked so much of what cory would say though.

    Why he even brought it up is beyond me.

    Then the instances of cops with people face down on the footpath with a knee heavily pressed into their back.

    Yes, I have seen that all too often. I understand that the police are in a high stress, confrontational job, but, it is also their job to use the appropriate force, and to set the standard, which they all too often exceed.

  306. November 10, 2014 11:16 am

    Walruses for Headlocks.. lol 🙂

  307. November 10, 2014 11:36 am

    “No like when 2 women are going helter skelter at each other in a bar screaming, kicking, trying to head butt each other, throwing punches at each other and going completely berserk.”

    Why would anyone want to intervene in something like that? It’s far more enjoyable to order another drink and egg them on.

  308. ironicman permalink
    November 10, 2014 11:52 am

    ‘In your case, as displayed by the results a matter of fact’

    Only card carrying members of the PLS would agree with you on that score.

  309. Walruses for Headlocks permalink
    November 10, 2014 12:07 pm

    I just realised something of no real importance but rather amusing.

    I wonder how long the RBA will allow the about to be newly listed Medibank to remain named as such.

    The RBA gets very nasty when people try and call themselves a “bank” in any form when they don’t have a lending licence.

  310. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2014 12:27 pm

    And that was the example I gave.

    Ya mean you and Cory weaseled out of what you both really meant … neither of you are cops and and even then headlocks are fkn dangerous if they apply one … condoning headlocks on “anyone” was my question … not “is it its OK for cops to do it” … as you seem to think …

    And given Bernardi’s comment “history” … the man’s not a man, he’s a Fuckwit … defend at your leisure …

    … the man is walking LNP time-bomb … defend at my pleasure …

    And FYI, Wally, older than you I may be – thanks for reminding me … again, and call me stupid as you often do but don’t ever treat me as stupid!

    During the hearing, Liberal senator Cory Bernardi sparked anger from Greens senator Larissa Waters when he told representatives of the state’s oldest women’s refuge they were not “experts” and there were times it was appropriate for a man to put his partner in a headlock.

    Women’s House Shelta’s Barbara Crossing told the hearing a man had a protection order taken out against his partner using evidence she bit him under the arm.

    Ms Crossing, a support worker since 1991, said the injury could only have been caused by the man having the woman in a headlock.

    Senator Bernardi said police considered headlocks an “appropriate means of deferring an aggressor” and Ms Crossing was second-guessing the police who were the “experts”.

    Senator Waters said Ms Crossing was the expert and a headlock was an example of domestic violence.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/domestic-violence-inquiry-hears-arguments-over-appropriate-force/story-fnn8dlfs-1227115178445?nk=994a504acc68078242a6545d0b2b677c

  311. November 10, 2014 12:35 pm

    Why would anyone want to intervene in something like that? It’s far more enjoyable to order another drink and egg them on.

    Unless its your girlfriend 😯 no wait 🙂
    “egg” them on… yeah I see what you did

    Only card carrying members of the PLS would agree with you on that score.

    All the people that have not been banned from Trash for repetitive derailing annoyance take a step forward..

    Not so fast Miss Egg 🙄

  312. Walruses for Headlocks permalink
    November 10, 2014 1:00 pm

    “– thanks for reminding me … again, and call me stupid as you often do but don’t ever treat me as stupid!”

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and has feathers and can fly then it is a Duck

    Stupid………………………..!

  313. Walruses for Headlocks permalink
    November 10, 2014 1:03 pm

    “……….. not “is it its OK for cops to do it” … as you seem to think … ”

    OK you senilre dickwad. Where did I say it was OK for cops to put people in headlocks.

    You just keep searching or verballing for an answer that suits your prejudices you idiot

  314. ironicman permalink
    November 10, 2014 1:28 pm

    ‘You just keep searching or verballing for an answer that suits your prejudices….’

    Yep.

  315. November 10, 2014 2:32 pm

    Seriously.. why are you even worried aboyt B Nastry he’ a fruitcake…
    Look if they deserve it, like writing in a blog or thinking or daring to question fiberal fucktardness..just .. give em a headlock.. preferably in Bikinis in Jelly throwing dwarfs @ a fiberal fundraiser 🙄

    The Australian government has cited controversial cuts to unemployment benefits as one of the key structural reforms that will increase economic activity by 2 per cent, according to a draft of its growth strategy to be submitted to the G20 leaders’ summit.

    Teabag Logic… Hey Rupert don’t worry about that 800 million dolar tax bill.. just keep the Australian open for a while and ya dogs at the gate will ya… and we will call it square and fair… Stir up a bit of terror and faux outrage the poll tank is empty

    We have it covered.. the poor will pick up the tab ..you Gina and Twiggy go have a big baccy ciggy…

    Fucking teabag ass hats

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/cuts-to-jobless-benefits-will-boost-economic-growth-australia-tells-g20-20141109-11jcy5.html#ixzz3Icf5krE2

  316. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2014 3:16 pm

    Let’s put this to bed …

    (Part) Transcript from the enquiry into domestic violence (repeat – domestic violence) …

    Background

    At around 10:50 yesterday morning another support worker, Barbara Crossing from Women’s House Shelta, gave evidence to the inquiry that police responses to domestic violence incidents were frequently hampered because they “often rely on the man’s version of events”. Crossing gave an example where a man had successfully taken out a suppression order against his wife after she bit him on the arm, and claimed he could only have sustained such an injury if he had been holding her in a headlock.

    At this point, things took a seriously nasty turn, with Bernardi jumping in to “clarify” that headlocks can be an acceptable method for police to subdue someone, and that contrary to the very point Crossing was trying to make, the police are the best judges of who is at fault in an instance of domestic violence.

    Junkee.com

    Read more at http://junkee.com/when-it-comes-to-violence-against-women-in-australia-julien-blancs-the-least-of-our-problems/44637#L3AfTiMSWtOllBlR.99

    BERNARDI: Ms Crossing, it is…any law enforcement official would say that putting someone in a headlock can be an appropriate means of subduing an aggressor. It’s…it’s kind of bold for you to suggest that simply because someone was in a headlock to second-guess a police assessment of a domestic violence dispute.

    CROSSING: If you…if you could see that the woman had, you know, quite severe bruising around her head and blood pouring, you know, from her head, would you be making the same statement?

    BERNARDI: I’m not given all the evidence, Ms Crossing, but you’ve just merely said that, you know, it’s inappropriate — that’s what you’ve suggested — for anyone to be placed in a headlock. You may be right in this circumstance, but you equally may be wrong. I mean the gross generalisation, I think, is rather unfair.

    CROSSING: I would suggest though, that the police taking out — it’s called a police protection notice — where they take out a protection order to protect someone, that perhaps they should have done more investigation before doing so.

    BERNARDI: So you’re second-guessing the police? …You’re entitled to your opinion, but I just want to be on the record: there are appropriate circumstances where people being put in a headlock is a way of deterring an aggressor.

    LARISSA WATERS (GREENS QLD SENATOR): [unclear]…a way of perpetrating aggression?

    BERNARDI: Of course it is. Of course it is, but you can’t just put one side of the story and then say ‘how do you get put in a headlock?’

    WATERS: Well, these women are the experts, so they are entitled to put in their perspective.

    BERNARDI: [unclear]…In actual fact they’re not, the police are.

    Bernardi’s

    STATEMENT
    The headlines in today’s media do not accurately reflect the exchange given in the Senate domestic violence inquiry yesterday.

    I said it was inappropriate for witnesses at the inquiry to second-guess the decisions of police in granting a protection order after they had completed an appropriate investigation based on evidence.

    I never suggested violence in any form was acceptable; I merely pointed out the fact, when asked whether it is ever right to restrain someone, that law enforcement officers use appropriate restraint techniques to deter aggressors in the course of their duties.

    7 November 2014

    Well…………………some women can get very out of control. I’ve seen a few drunk one fight each other and in order to break it up guys standing nearby have headlocked them to pull them off each other.

    So I guess there can be circumstances albeit rare.

    And …

    “” … as Wally does … condone putting a woman in a headlock …””

    Listen you stupid old fuckwit I said ………..”So I guess there can be circumstances albeit rare.”

    I did not say it shpuld (sic) be carried out as a matter of course as you imply.

    AND

    “……….. not “is it its OK for cops to do it” … as you seem to think … ”

    OK you senilre dickwad. Where did I say it was OK for cops to put people in headlocks.

    You just keep searching or verballing for an answer that suits your prejudices you idiot

    … and it all began with …

    Walrus permalink

    November 7, 2014 4:01 pm

    “Labor’s spokeswoman for women, Claire Moore, backed up Senator Bernardi’s denial, saying it was “a bit harsh” to say he had condoned domestic violence.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/cory-bernardi-denies-condoning-domestic-violence-after-headlock-comments-20141107-11iiv8.html#ixzz3IM7iNJEt

    See above for the Statement … and as Wally knows he was simply defending Bernardi’s statement … using Laticia Bourke … LOL!

    I’ve made my point … now others can make up their own minds …

  317. ironicman permalink
    November 10, 2014 3:21 pm

    ‘The other key commitments are “cutting red tape”, “contributing to global trade liberalisation” and “creating self-reliant industries”.

    It would have been better if he fleshed out those points, so that we could make a considered opinion.

  318. Meta permalink
    November 10, 2014 3:35 pm

    (Making up my own mind; I still vote for a hands-off approach on uncooperative ladies; and for putting them in the stocks; after a perfectly reasonable tazing and summary sentencing on-the-spot; for being moody cows and behaving disorderly; it’s for their own protections and for the general good.)

  319. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2014 3:43 pm

    Indeed, M!

  320. Walrus permalink
    November 10, 2014 3:50 pm

    “”I’ve made my point … now others can make up their own minds …””

    I already have………………..you are a stupid fucking idiot.

    From RP

    “”Come to think of it…one woman was put in a headlock..albeit for a short amount of time by a bloke who was with her…””

    But that wont qualify because TB believes domestic violence is done in private and in the home not in a public are.

    Shakes Head………Rolls Eyes……………………….Idiot

  321. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2014 4:04 pm

    But that wont qualify because TB believes domestic violence is done in private and in the home not in a public are.

    Still putting words down I haven’t said Wally … headlocks are dangerous from a number of physical and psychological perspectives … and they bloody hurt!

    The point is that Bernardi made a stupid statement and you have tried to defend him … end of story …

    Insults don’t exactly enhance your “point of view” … in fact they probably do quite the opposite …

  322. Walrus permalink
    November 10, 2014 4:14 pm

    “”Insults don’t exactly enhance your “point of view” …””

    “”Yer reckon … hero … FMD!””

    And you are a fucking stupid hypocrite to boot I see

  323. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2014 4:26 pm

    you are a stupid fucking idiot

    Listen you stupid old fuckwit I said

    OK you senilre dickwad

    you are a fucking stupid hypocrite

    Yes I confess … it did sound bad when I said …

    Yer reckon … hero … FMD!

    A subjective jibe I agree … I guess people like Bernardi bring the worst out in me …

    but I just want to be on the record: there are appropriate circumstances where people being put in a headlock is a way of deterring an aggressor.

    Hate weasel words and manipulating the truth too …

    I never suggested violence in any form was acceptable …

    Maybe its in the comprehension …

    And for your info, Wally … the majority of domestic violence occurs in the home … and its hidden and the bloke is generally all smiles and lovely out and his partner rarely tells anyone …

    The End

  324. Walrus permalink
    November 10, 2014 5:10 pm

    “”Yes I confess … it did sound bad when I said …””

    Yes it did………….but I did put that down to probably ya 5th WT by that time of 630ish on a Friday evening.

    Not that I’d ever condemn the abuse of alcohol.

    Afterall even Teabagz finally broke ToSY a few weeks ago whereupon he slipped into profanity.

    Cheers !

  325. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2014 5:15 pm

    Jesus Fuckin’ Christ … 🙄

    Solution to headlocks I suppose … Alaska has the lowest crime rate in the USA …

  326. November 10, 2014 6:37 pm

    Don’t you just love the way we all get along….?

  327. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2014 6:53 pm

    Don’t you just love the way we all get along….?

    Most of us anyway … 🙂

  328. November 10, 2014 6:58 pm

    “Don’t you just love the way we all get along….?”

    Yeah, I luv youse all!

    (Well, not all, exactly.)

  329. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2014 7:18 pm

    I agree with, ToSY … as usual …

  330. November 10, 2014 7:21 pm

    City people! 🙄

  331. November 10, 2014 7:31 pm

    I think you’re all a pack of cunts.

    But then that’s just me.

  332. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2014 7:31 pm

    New album, Toillette?

  333. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2014 7:32 pm

    But then that’s just me.

    Oh, your the only cnt?

  334. November 10, 2014 7:34 pm

    I think you mean you’re.

  335. TB Queensland permalink
    November 10, 2014 7:45 pm

    I agree, ToSY …

  336. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    November 10, 2014 8:55 pm

    Practically everyone here is reasonable.

  337. November 10, 2014 9:40 pm

    ”””””””’cuts to welfare payments such as the unemployment benefit, family tax benefits and the pension would act to suppress economic growth.

    “If you produce a budget that reduces the income of the poor, it has an impact on consumer demand because they spend everything they’ve got,” he said.

    “That will detract from economic growth.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/cuts-to-jobless-benefits-will-boost-economic-growth-australia-tells-g20-20141109-11jcy5.html#ixzz3Icf5krE2
    ””””””””””””””””’

    The stupid, it hurts. Can they really get any dumber.? #teabags
    `You betcha`

  338. November 10, 2014 10:29 pm

    Practically everyone here is reasonable.

    Yep there all reasonable cunts except for Egg and Squeal

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