Rostrum: Utterly Disgusted Edition!

“… a “liar” who needs psychiatric help”

On my calculation that applies to at least 50% of their parliamentary representation.

This morning, on the wireless, I heard the finance minister, Mathias Cormann, say the government wasn’t making cuts to the ABC.

The day before, I heard the communications minister, Malcolm Turnbull, say Tony Abbott hadn’t actually promised before last September’s election not to cut the budgets of the ABC and SBS. If Abbott had said something like that, then he didn’t mean it; and more likely, we’d all just misunderstood what the prime minister had said.

Also on Wednesday, I heard the prime minister tell the French president, Francois Hollande, that part of the Australian government’s policy arsenal to combat the risks associated with climate change involved funding an agency called the Clean Energy Finance Corporation.

What he didn’t tell the French president was the government intends to abolish the CEFC.

In politics at the present time, we are drowning in nonsense.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/20/abc-climate-change-the-coalition-is-drowning-us-in-nonsense

Far be it for me to point out that much of our inability to “hear correctly” just what the previous opposition was promising or were not promising could well be sheeted home to those now alarmingly looking at the fucking corrupt mess we now have “governing” us, and probably wondering ‘how could this have happened”?

…and give them a talking to…

‘…and give them a talking to…’

Fat chance, the Canadian PM is of sceptical bent and would down Obama on that score.

Apparently Its highly unusual for an Australian foreign minister to openly criticise a US president.

‘He said certain products like sugar, rice, cotton and some grains, were “regrettably” excluded from the agreement.

“These products will be in high demand in China over coming years and must be included in the review arrangements after three years,” he said.

Not so bad, the demand is out there as China’s middle class grows. Patience is required.

“”Patience is required.””

These are ground breaking developments if we get it right in the way we produce stuff in so far as quality and quantity. China’s population was 1.357 Billion last year and India 1.252 Billion.

Its been estimated that China currently sits development wise at the approximate point that the USA was in 1910. Yep 104 years ago.

Sure it has between 15 and 20 million apartments vacant at the moment (apparently all those concrete shells don’t even have plumbing or electrical fitted, nor bathrooms) so we might have a slowdown at the moment but time will eventually munch thru the oversupply as we have seen in the USA.

As far as India is concerned with its development we will se. The new guy is doing some positive things like encouraging people to open bank accounts and start saving.

There are winners and losers in every FTA. Its upto Australians to spot the opportunities.

So I’m very positive about the possibilies of having access to 2 combined markets 100 times the size of our population.

All that Walrus said is true, a time of great prosperity looms.

‘China currently sits development wise at the approximate point that the USA was in 1910.’

If we become the food bowl of Asia, then Australia is situated around mid 19th century America, as they began to build the transcontinental railway to open up the west.

l suspect teabag-media are making much more of the Clive and Jaqui Show than is warranted, however, stay tuned, Clive will do more on-air walk-outs and unhinge folks like Emma in the future. Like a certain reportland, latelineland and the rest of my abc, won`t have learned any lessons in dealing with Clive and the other `new-comers`, so l suspect while you won`t be informed viewers, you `will` be entertained!

‘… that doesn’t mean Australia is you fool!’

Progress won’t stop just because you want it to. Keep your eyes on these borers, bet they could easily burrow through the sandstone curtain.

Those two are playing it down, don’t want to startle the horses.

I can’t find the recipe thread.

On the up-side dumpty, the 4-tunnel borers are providing minimal employment to aussies, another `wonderful` decision by teabags, regular strength and unleaded. The important thing is they made sure all the value-adding jobs were done in North-america, asia and europa!

Catchy tune!!

http://riseupaustraliaparty.com/?page_id=1136

(Co-incidentally: Left or right-wing? Brain’s disgust response tells all.

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“Progress won’t stop just because you want it to. Keep your eyes on these borers, bet they could easily burrow through the sandstone curtain.”

Keep digging?)

How to win an election without really trying.

‘Plans for the extra harbour tunnel have been under development for months, and are expected to be included in the next State Infrastructure Strategy, due for imminent release.’

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/revealed-second-sydney-harbour-road-tunnel-20141121-11r3e1.html#ixzz3Jk6d3M9B

So Obama just willfully ignored advice about a speech that intervened in domestic politics, but it is contentious when a politician provides a political reply…

BARACK Obama defied the ¬advice of his embassy in Canberra to deliver a stinging attack on the Abbott government’s climate policies in Brisbane last weekend.
The US embassy, under the leadership of ambassador John Berry, advised the President, through his senior staff, not to couch his climate change comments in a way that would be seen as disobliging to the Abbott government, sources have revealed.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/in-depth/obama-ignored-embassys-warnings-on-climate-change-speech/story-fnpebfcn-1227131290194

It does appear the Alliance is on sounder footing with Bishop and Abbott at the helm. China quietly woos us with flattery and the promise of a golden century for all humanity, by comparison America is in quite a bit of debt and lacks a similar vision.

So its OK in my book to rebuke the leader of the free world for being an idiotic lame duck.

you might believe it is your RIGHT to determine the agenda of any meeting you’re attending

Actually yomm, it was the G19 who wanted to talk about it. yabot thought that as HOST he could set the agenda.

It was no secret that the G19 wanted it on the agenda. In the end, it appears that they just decided to ignore yabots ignorance and boorishness and discuss what they all wanted to discuss.

I’m pretty sure Obama didn’t mind speaking a few truths after yabot pig ignorant display of earlier this year when in Canadia he tried to get a group of like minded denier nations to stymie America, and then went grovelling to Obama saying the fucking opposite. What a man of traction

Well, Obama certainly put the dampers on that 🙂

It’s not hard to see why yabot’s considered “the Village Idiot” or, as someone else put it

(Elsewhere, something vaguely thematic (and orange’n’blue), from David Pope…

And, on a more or less upbeat note: Great Barrier Reef will be ‘slaughtered’: scientists dismiss Julie Bishop’s claim reef not at risk.)

“There’s no doubt about that at all, if carbon-dioxide emissions keep on tracking as they are.”

I couldn’t possibly comment.

“How many Australian summers are not hot summers?”

Not many.

From your SMH link Meta

Ove Hoegh-Guldberg, director of the university’s Global Change Institute

ROFL

Yea, I’ll bet he doesn’t even own a snorkel, so what would he know!

I have read a first hand account from a REAL ziontist (?), who actually claims to OWN a snorkel that it is fine. So move along, nothing to see here!

Those Hawaiian shirt wearing pranksters can just go back to their “data” and “models” that just happened to accurately predict what we are currently experiencing and shove it up their “consensus” as far as it’ll fit.

We don’t need Evidence, we got Snorkels!

I know for a fact that 1879 saw a bigger anomalie.

ROFL

egg and facts

ROFL

“but how many are this hot?”

PM: ‘Its been a warm Spring, there is no denying it, but there is no certainty that this summer will be warmer than usual. BoMs seasonal forecasting is shit.’

“Lame duck Obama is taking the opportunity to wedge loons & pantywetters all over the place”

If that is why Obama said what he did, I would find that strange. Just to create trouble?

I think a growing population will do more damage to the reef than any increase in CO2. A growing population means more land clearing, more farms, more agricultural run-off, more shipping and more everything. I think increasing CO2 is not a problem for the reef.

I seem the recall the ALP condemning the Howard govt for sucking up to the USA.

All the ALP seems to do is suck up to Obama. Gillard was the worst.

Is now the right time to say how disgusted I am?

Very. Extremely. Utterly.

“flatearthish tendencies”

Guffaw.

flatearthish tendencies

🙂

“I love how anti_AGW zealots align themselves with anti-abortion & other conservative nutjobbery (ala Monckton).”

I love how you conflate completely different issues to (try and) discredit AGW sceptics. But DENIERS(!) are all nutjobz, so all’s fair in love and war, I suppose?

Yeah, it’s the political hypocrisy I love.

But I haven’t read the links and now I’m on my way out for some frivolity, with some people that will pretend they’re 25 by 10 pm.

“It generally easy to work out which party a journalist votes for.”

Or who they barrack for. You can generally tell by which paper they work for.

You’ll notice leftoids here will link to the SMH, The Age, The Guardian, and The saturday Paper.

Wingnuts will link to the Australian, The Daily Telegraph, and The Herald Sun.

That’s because the articles/opinion pieces published will generally support their point of view.

“I didn’t register a personal position on AGW anywhere above. ”

Really? You commented on the current governments “flatearthish tendencies”. I’m keen to hear what else could you possibly have been referring to.

“aside from the fact that she had an opinion.”

Well, that says it all, doesn’t it? She’s pro-Labor, and all her writings confirm it. What’s to critique?

(Pick out some points, if you can be bothered. Let’s see how they stand up.)

‘Got a link for that?’

‘Ignorant incompatibility!’

Too early to call, my Marxist associate says ‘China is not a role model for any country. It is a fascist dictatorship!!!!’

Xi visits the land of the long white cloud.

‘Key said New Zealand and China have a tremendous future together and there are numerous opportunities for them to hope for a higher and better standard of living for their people.

“For that relationship to be truly successful, it is not just a matter of central governments working together or indeed people working together. It is also very important that we make sure that our local governments intertwine and work closely together,” he said.

China Daily

‘got a graph (and link) for 1996 t0 2013? Now that’s a bit harder to find …’

Wingnuts will link to the Australian, The Daily Telegraph, and The Herald Sun.

Am I a wingnut now? Mind you, mostly when I link to the oz, it’s to highlight how they have got it wrong, again, with supporting links to evidence that shows how they got it wrong. Real wingnuts use “well, they would say that” as their evidence, hey tosy 😉

aside from the fact that she had an opinion.

To be pedantic, toilet, it was a series of facts littered with related facts that highlighted the inanity of the grubmints alternating positions 😉

I wouldn’t read AIMN though, because it’s not ‘independent’ of cheap partisan gravy

I have drifted awy from the Independent Australia site for the same reason toilet, although, I still do drift back from time to time. I find myself more often than not at New Matilda, who appear to be fairly frank and uncompromising in their reporting.

She’s pro-Labor, and all her writings confirm it.

Yea tosy, except when she was mixing her sauces 😉

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/how-long-can-it-last-20110902-1jq7c.html

Pick out some points, if you can be bothered. Let’s see how they stand up.</i.

I'm up for it 😉

1) she quotes bishop "“Of course the Great Barrier Reef will be preserved for generations to come. We don’t believe it is in danger,” Bishop said, with complete certainty."

Lenore highlights the inanity by mentioning this "“Recent extreme climatic events show significant vulnerability of some ecosystems and many human systems to current climate variability (very high confidence)" which comes from "the most recent report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which says (in chapter 25 – the one about Australasia):" or "Even the government’s own “outlook report”, from the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority, found climate change posed the most serious threat reef"

So, as I mentioned, the best scientific advice tells us that the GBR IS under extreme pressure from Climate Change, yet bishop wants to lecture Obama by saying "will not!"

WTF!!

Again, highlighting the inanity and absolute bare faced cheek of the grubmint, she goes on

2)"Without even a flicker of irony, Abbott and Bishop again dug in further, arguing one reason Australia didn’t intend to commit to the international Green Climate Fund was that it already had the domestic CEFC (neglecting to mention this was only because they haven’t been able to get rid of it yet)."

This, after bragging about repealing the main driver of our emission reduction, the ETS.

But number three is the corker. After screaming for years about "trust", now,apparently, it is our inability to listen correctly which has let us down (don't they unnerstand we have inernets still, murdochs master plan has not come yet come to fruition), not the grubmint saying one thing before the election, and another after.

3) "“Well – well, look, you know, I mean, I’ve defended the prime minister on this today and earlier in the week. I think you’ve got to take his comments, which – look, I mean, what he said, he said, and, you know, it’s there, it’s on the record. But you’ve got to take that in the context. And I can only assume that what Mr Abbott was referring to or was thinking about, anyway, was the proposition that there would be cuts in – with the intent of reducing ABC services and we’ve ruled that out,” he said, not sounding coherent or convincing."

Take yer pick tosy, which one are you knocking over first 😉

I'll be back in the morning, as I still have far too much of the bottle left 😉

‘Get some new friends … ‘

They are waiting for the revolution, Marx said it would come from an advanced capitalist society. They are disconnected from reality and are not aware that China will bring them their revolution.

My italics appear to have got the better of me last night. C’est la vie

as for egg and his continuing lying.

And for good scientific reasons.

Name them

And I can find scientists who claim the IPCC is talking through its hat.

A couple of words missing there, quite deliberately. Like “reputable” and “show”, as in “show the IPCC”

I’ll prove that it was caused by natural variability.

Go on, start with what is happening in America right now with the snowfalls. Show us yer “proof”.

And I’m guessing that, anticipating the response (should it even come and be related (see below)), we won’t be hearing from you for a short period of “sin-binned” time. And,considering the “link” you put up (read, irrelevant picture graph from a site TB had already warned you about not using, for the reasons I am about to mention) which you seemed to claim showed a bigger anomaly in 1879 but in fact was a link to a renowned denialist site that was whinging about homogenisation, it is probably already well past that time.

http://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/09/absolutely-politically-incorrect-maximum-temperatures-at-bourke-and-bathurst/

Go and read the scientists reply to similar rubbish in the oz, and perhaps educate yourself if that is at all possible. Take specific note of this passage.

Far from being a fudge to make warming look more severe than it is, most of the Bureau’s data manipulation has in fact had the effect of reducing the apparent extreme temperature trends across Australia. Cherrypicking weather stations where data have been corrected in a warming direction doesn’t mean the overall picture is wrong.

http://theconversation.com/no-the-bureau-of-meteorology-is-not-fiddling-its-weather-data-31009

The remarkable thing in all this is that the marohasy article is printed weeks after the Conversation article dispelling the rubbish the oz was peddling. but marohasy was quite happy to ignore that entirely and blithely plow on as if she was onto some vast conspiracy. It is for this very reason that you get sin binned. You, like her, fabricate, misrepresent and outright lie (as above) and then, when caught out, ignore replies.

yor pathetic

‘…when caught out, ignore replies.

‘yor pathetic’

Yeah, if you say so.

Well TR, you are free to speak and I am not, so I’ll return to Tony’s art classes.

We must be sleepwalking over a cliff or sumfin’

or sumfin’ TB 😉

You telling the truth is an impossible act grodowormtongue

What’s your excuse for the irrelevant graph you dished up to TB?

‘What’s your excuse for the irrelevant graph you dished up to TB?’

What don’t you put up a couple of graphs and we’ll discuss them?

This is hilarious, given the posts above from the yousual suspects trying to blame Obama for yabots failures

Naturally the reptiles at the Oz scurried to the scene to attempt to repair the damage, and to point the finger at the Kenyan socialist who’d started all the fuss:

http://loonpond.blogspot.com.au/2014/11/please-keep-digging.html#.VG-zqIuUeAo

But you’re just being a spoilsport Ms Taylor, ruining everyone’s fun. If we’ve got the windmills, of course we must have loons that will tilt at them … that’s the natural order.

ROFL

not ignorance, pure propaganda.

touche ao 😉

BoM looks no further back than 1900 and we were discussing the 1879 global warming blip.

But you claimed it was proof of an 1879 anomaly, now you claim we don’t have the evidence

So, you lied, after TB specifically asked you not to.

“This is a story yet to be told.”

Yet further back up the thread, it gave the impression that this picture graph was all the proof needed to show an anomaly (which it didn’t, and which was lifted from a denailist site which in turn was proven wrong even before the post was written)

Tom R is issuing warnings now.

fyi tosy, I wasn’t the issuer.

“It is becoming pretty clear that 2014 will end up as the warmest year on record,” said Deke Arndt,”

That’s roughly 114 years.

My colleague Meta started the ball rolling

bullshit troll. You did when you started posting irrelevant pictures and making ludicrous claims you refuse to back up or even engage in.

Just because you are a lying sack of shit doesn’t mean that nobody else is able to discuss a matter. It means that you should refrain from TROLLING!

Meta started the ball rolling on November 22 at 3:35 pm.

‘What I have an issue with is deliberate trolling of a topic without any real intent to discuss it in any meaningful manner.’

I’m feeling hamstrung, but if the editor put up a post we could sort it out once and for all.

‘And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed – if all records told the same tale – then the lie passed into history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”

George Orwell

Just went back and had a closer look and remember thinking at the time that Meta might be taking the piss. So I kept it light and then TB jumped in and I answered his questions with graphs, which as you can appreciate is better than a lot of words.

she just looks like a walking solar panel.

Although, I have heard (although not directly related to that specific garb) that, although they may not look it, Arab clothes are in fact ideally suited for hot, dry climates.

words simply fail

”””””””Just because you are a lying sack of shit doesn’t mean that nobody else is able to discuss a matter.””#correct

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”””””””I’m feeling hamstrung, but if the editor put up a post””’#horse-shit

You always have lame-arsed excuses, (not only here or the coffee-shops) that even have you bounced from clodlingNovas and wattsupwithclaptrap. Not only do the disinterested not give a fcuk about your stupidity, neither do the propagandists!

”””’Thanks to Christopher Pyne, a panicked constituent politician””(#teabag-panic)

”””and disloyal Cabinet minister from South Australia, for highlighting what we have long known. Through successive budget cuts and a management resourcing priority to win the digital race, the ABC IS Sydney-centric. The loss of the ABC’s Adelaide TV production house, the last remaining regional TV producer outside Sydney and Melbourne –
http://www.alliance.org.au/quentin-dempster-s-abc-rally-speech
””””””””””””’

””with the loss of more than 100 jobs – is a cultural and local tragedy.””

#Now that the job-losses are working their way UP the food-chain, we can expect more #journopanic in the next few years, (remember destruction is quicker that construction) and the journopanic will spread beyond the dear old fuddie duddies like dear old Quentin. Watch, as Limited-News hacks panic in their next round of sackings, as it dawns on them, the anti-abc team-cheering they provided, resulted in my sbs increasing its advertising and reducing new-hires at my abc. #donkeysAllRound

””””””””The ABC must not close its production house in Adelaide. We, the undersigned, are concerned that ABC in South Australia is the last TV production unit outside of Sydney and Melbourne. The Board must reassure South Australians that the local TV production house of the ABC will remain in South Australia.
https://www.change.org/p/chairman-james-spigelman-ac-qc-and-the-board-of-the-australian-broadcasting-corporation-abc-the-abc-must-not-close-its-production-house-in-adelaide
””””””””””(#started by mr-poodle)

#Looks like mr-poodle has failed his electorate/state regarding my abc sa-tv-local-reportland-etc.

Now it is probably too late, he would have better spent his time on qandaland raising this issue, its a popular national platform don`tcha-know, instead of mincing on behalf of mr-rabbits truck-load of nonsense. What a fcukwit you are mr-poodle, any basic knowledge of demographics would tell you that sa local would go down the crapper well ahead of syd-melb-bris.

Population size=efficiency
(very important when it comes to the `cost-benefit-analysis` teabags love to screech about) #mr-poodle #super-fcukwit

Fuck you’re weird

ROFL

I have to repeat myself.

ROFL

Just because you do, doesn’t mean you have to

#justsayin’ 😉

Abbott was nuts to give a commitment about the ABC. The ABC is not a vote changer but political honesty is.

I think that’s right about the 10 to 3 mentality.

I knew someone who worked for the ABC, bright but lazy. The had an outstanding career there.

Ok. Apologies for the lack of volume of comments, but I’m going on holidays and need to make some money. As well as finishing some stuff that will be invaluable to success for some rich people.

4nil

Apparently Gillard said on the night of the 2010 election that ‘there will be no Carbon Tax under any Government I lead,

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we want a Carbon Price”

😉

lol

from #teamAustraliar

India is thinking seriously about reinvesting in cold fusion research, as a means to solving the country’s energy needs.

“………..have you seen me write that liars, cheats and thieves often accuse others to hide their own actions … “”

You mean like Robber Barons …………………..ay Mr Pirate ?

By the way, I watched two shows last night, both of which made me think of TB (I know, right?).

One was this one. We have all seen TB rant against this “Giant In The Century”, probably just because he was a torie.

http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/355782723704/churchill-a-giant-in-the-century-ep1

The other was this one …

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/cilla/ZW0161A002S00

It suddenly dawned on me where TB got his anti-Catholic bigotry.

‘What the fuck is it with denialists sites like theregister that they can’t ever portray this subject without lying about it?’

That’s why I read more widely.

“There’s nothing we can do to stop it. Scientifically it is sheer absurdity to think we can get a nice climate by turning a CO2 adjustment knob. Many confuse environmental protection with climate protection. it’s impossible to protect the climate, but we can protect the environment and our drinking water. On the debate concerning alternative energies, which is sensible, it is often driven by the irrational climate debate. One has nothing to do with the other.”

– See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2012/05/09/the-belief-that-co2-can-regulate-climate-is-sheer-absurdity-says-prominent-german-meteorologist/#sthash.6Mh8gb1X.dpuf

probably just because he was a torie.

You mean like the way some people dismiss Lenore Taylor just because, to them, she is a lefty, but appear unable to debate the substantive points she makes?

That’s why I read more widely.

You are a total fuckstick who doesn’t know how fucking stupid you look to anyone with basic comprehension abilities. Go fuck off you little troll

Gee, Tom R seems a bit tetchy tonight. 😯

Tom R seems a bit tetchy tonight.

Perhaps it was the the salmon moose 🙂

“but appear unable to debate the substantive points she makes?”

Yeah, it wasn’t you I was having that discussion with. Just because you jump in, doesn’t mean I’ll have the same interest in discussing it with you.

I’ve been jousting with toiletboss for years now, and, regardless of our differences of opinion, it’s (almost) always a respectful conversation. Neither of us has seen the need to resort to personal abuse.

“Did I personally abuse you?”

Not for some time, no. You must be mellowing. 😉

Ooh. Look who’s jumped in now.

(For Certain; mr-rabbit confuses the El-Nino subject with the El-Gordo fraud.)

I miss SB.

”I’ll engage with whoever I feel like engaging with.””
#good for you Tinfoil`osy, lt`s best not upset the belief system huh.
””(That won’t be teabagz, or Ricky, usually, because they don’t do civil discourse.)””
#unless you think you`ve found a `gotcha`, of course 🙂

yomm takes a brief respite from his brief respite to be brief

”””””Whatever the future holds, it is not a renewables-powered civilisation: such a thing is impossible.”””””’#horse-shit
#try a better site to get ya`info Tinfoil`osy,
(do a little research on `grid-abandonment`)

That is to say …

””””””””I’m guessing tosy’s going to be picky about who he discusses Google Engineers being misrepresented by denier websites with as well”””””””

#don`t be too hard on Tinfoil`osy, l think he does try, in his own way while battling indoctrination, which is still much better than dumpty, kneel and yomm, that regurgitate the same small repetoire
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@reb, glad you posted the comments from mr-poodles `petition`, which nobody seems to be falling for,

l also suspect first-moondog was sniffin around here last night, and picked-up on my comments about `cost-benefit-analysis` will nearly always result that bumpkin-teabags will usually be shafted in `cost-cutting` exercises,

with the state election coming soon, that reminds me, don`t forget to vote bumpkins, Vote-National_!!! 🙂

Okay, l`ll admit it,

you`re an arse-hole yomm

‘Australia has taken its engineers, its builders, its IT professionals and its healthcare workers. Now New Zealand wants them back.

‘In fact, so severe has the brain drain been in recent years, that the New Zealand government is recruiting Australians to fill job market shortages that, if left unattended, could hold back the country’s growth.’

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/new-zealand-wants-to-reverse-brain-drain-with-jobs-pitch-to-australian-professionals-20141125-11sv8c.html#ixzz3K1MajkQT

Hard to dispute, if you were to try

Abbott lied about cuts to the ABC, SBS and everything else because he would have been unelectable had he campaigned on his true agenda. To pretend otherwise is as disingenuous as the prime minister himself. Save the ABC.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/24/abc-cuts-had-abbott-been-honest-about-his-true-agenda-he-would-have-been-unelectable

Really, after making such a huge issue of it with the last Government who didn’t even lie to electorate, you would have to be supremely stupid, or supremely confident in the media’s ability to cover yor arse to even try on what the libs are doing now with their massive lies.

I don’t think they banked on the Guardian or fairfax to break away from ltdnews lead so much.

And for conspiracy theorists, is scott and yabot working in cohesion here?

When an ABC manager yesterday told staff that those made redundant in the current down-sizing might be able to produce content on a freelance one-off program commissioning basis in future, the cat was out of the bag.

A commissioning model for content where nervous managers under pressure from vested corporate and political interests can pull the plug by de-commissioning the creator, is an attack on editorial independence.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/political-bastardry-and-nincompoops-consign-abc-to-churnalism-20141124-11svir.html

Personally, it all seems too perfectly coincidental to me.

Well, I’m not at all bothered by cuts to the ABC,

Of course not. Ignorance is bliss to some

there ARE no coincidences in business …

nope. What was scott’s previous occupation again?…

All I have to do is get a report finalised by 11am!

I can just see it now

ctrl+C, ctrl+V

DONE!

Now to bag some lazy ABC bludgers!

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

wow, wally cums in from his taxpayer funded holidays with a typical hissy

AIMN

Get yerself over there 😉

Looks like a win for whistle blowers

Does this mean the msm will finally pick up this story though (I doubts it)

Even young Neil is banned at AIMN, its the pits.

Efficiency appears to have a curious meaning to this government.

As Something Wonky pointed out in their latest podcast, the savings from the ABC could be made by getting rid of pushing preachers into schools at the publics expense.

Priorities.

And this grubmints priorities are very obviously indoctrination over education

I’m off!!,

fer real this time?

Well Craig Thomson has admitted he lied and he gave the reason why.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/11/25/embarrassed-ex-mp-thomson-lied-barrister

Former MP Craig Thomson lied about using a union credit card to pay for prostitutes because he was ashamed, his barrister says……………..Mr James said Thomson lied in a media interview in 2012 out of embarrassment, not because he believed he’d committed a crime.

””””””Abbott lied about cuts to the ABC, SBS and everything else because he would have been unelectable had he campaigned on his true agenda. To pretend otherwise is as disingenuous as the prime minister himself. Save the ABC.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/24/abc-cuts-had-abbott-been-honest-about-his-true-agenda-he-would-have-been-unelectable
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#Van-Badham sounds like a team-cheerer. Mr-rabbits lot are highly predictable, surprises are for those tucked away snuggly in cocoons of ignorance, or tinfoil cubicles. As l`ve said previously, Mr-rabbit only stands for 3-things, 1-trough-snouting for the rich, 2-austerity for the masses, and 3-surplus fetish. Folks just need to figure-out where a particular topic slots-in. #teabags

”””Don’t know how they got my number”””
Strange. l got your `number` ages ago Tinfoil`osy. 🙂

“for ruining Nasking’s journalistic career”

I dunno how youse sleep at night, honestly.

banee?

(Neither looks right.)

””””””””””””””
http://scott-ludlam.greensmps.org.au/content/speeches-parliament/our-abc-not-yours-rupert

what passes for a policy development process under the Abbott government, which was elected without much of a clue as to what it wanted to create if it did win government. It had a bit of an idea of what it wanted to destroy, but not a great deal about what it wanted to create. It effectively outsourced its policy development process to a rather ambiguous organisation known as the Institute of Public Affairs.

The IPA published a hit list of 75 policy recommendations, followed by another 25 a short while later. Three of them are relevant to people who consider themselves friends of the SBS and friends of the ABC: item No. 47: ‘Cease funding the Australia Network’-silence Australia’s voice in the Asia-Pacific region, our diplomatic voice, the public broadcasting arm of the ABC that reaches deep into China, Japan and other countries in South-East Asia; item 50: ‘Break up the ABC and put out to tender each individual function’; and item 51: ‘Privatise SBS’.
Having outsourced policy to the Institute of Public Affairs, and being reasonably awake to the demands of the Murdoch press”””””””””””

#This is largely correct, and the bumpkins will keep voting for the Nats, even tho they have largely worked against the average bumpkin on the land, or small town. They have been sold-out by the Nats, that went along with mr-rabbits ipa instructed fetishes. The bumpkins and Teabags have been deftly out-manouvered by my abc management, who have used Teabags own `cost-benefit` ideals as a club, to beat the Teabags about the head with. lf the slashing to my abc/sbs goes thru, l suspect it will make `one-term-tony` become reality, not anything teabag-lite or shortmen does. l also won`t be surprised if mr-rabbit does a u-turn on this either, particularly if it looks like `too-many` Nats seats go down the gurgler.

Excuse me, I’m in the room.

So was the Ferguson decision right?

Obviously, they decided it 🙂

Don’t bother yourself too much. I’ve ‘moved on’.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

I’ll do it anyway.

fyi unsoiled one, my contribution (excuse the italics, twas after a few 😉 )

https://theguttertrash.com/2014/11/21/rostrum-utterly-disgusted-edition/#comment-84576

I better read the rest of this thread!

Guess we’ll see ya in the new year then 😉

””””What the fuck is it with throw away “cheerleader … dismissing!” lately to skirt around issues.””””

#Well TomR, l said more then merely `team-cheerer` in that comment,

AND the next comment, which is on the SAME topic, which has a pretty big explainer in it

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”””So, do you think yabot would have won the election if they actually put forward what they were most obviously planning?”””

Probably. Team-cheerers are over-looking all the help team-kevin07-joolya-kevin07-shortmen gave to mr-rabbits promotion to chief sewer-rat.

in any other environment he would be sacked!

With this mob, he’s likely to become employment minister 😦

”””So, the article raises a very valid point.”””
”””Nicely ignored again.”””
#NO to both.

lt may be in the `eye` of the beholder, team-cheerers of both `teams`, tiresomely only want to look at so-called `wins` for their team, and `losses` of opposite team. Most of the unrusted don`t work this way, so is largely pointless.

lf badham was making a `valid-point`, that `valid-point` might include that the `lazy/stupid` journosphere just lost about 400-jobs from its own industry, cheer-led by itself. Another `valid-point` might be that teabumpkins may have lost their `only` local news-source, by their own (stupid) hand. Or another `valid-point` might be the shock and awe hitting my abc staff, as they realize their fake-balance practices have shafted them, their soft pre-election mr-rabbit interviews didn`t pay-off, neither did merely following in the Limited-News rut. #got-it

#badham was just churn for team-cheerers that refuse to challenge the narrative

(“Surely not the whole 400 were journalists?”

No, inferentially, there were only an 82 extra Santa’s Charterparty Clauses with respect to the ABC’s outrageous ecoactivisms contra an apolitical-bargain’s open-for-business’s one-stop-shop’s Reef Water Quality Protection Plan, apparently: Great Barrier Reef threatened by Queensland plan to let miners take billions of litres of groundwater, says Marine Park Authority)

(“… what we are missing is a really good way of storing potential energy …”

Conversely, TB, and yet perhaps moving in similar thought-circles, harnessing natural potential energy gradients, ie plopping, or not, new-old old-new found batteries into the ghettoblaster, no matter the underlying/overlying technology(ies), might not be in any way synonymous with ‘producing’ any (and/or any new) energy at all.

To make that par-observation, though, might be to query, also, why the attention economy seemingly has identified the best and brightest of the best and brightest, taken that Simonian ultraresource, and then mindfully forgotten its key recommendation, fundamentally R&D, in a retrograde rush to return to a variant of the same ol’, same ol’.

In the Australian context, for instance, then, and at the very, very least, that might mean significantly augmenting, not insignificantly undermining ‘science, research and innovation‘.)

‘and then mindfully forgotten its key recommendation, fundamentally R&D’

Doubtful, its more likely that they will do a reorientation exercise away from environment to medicine. But putting all their eggs in one medical basket, in the hope of a brilliant and world shattering breakthrough, is ill conceived.

The danger of ignoring the seriousness of climate change may initially cost the Coalition some votes, but in the longer run all will be well. Apparently 69% of Channel Nine watchers don’t think humans are causing global warming.

Always nice to richly imagine the bigger picture, makes everything come alive.

“” It was about my voting intentions at the Victorian state election “”

Do tell………………………………………..LOL

It is a good read, an honest assessment, but Abbott is confident the infrastructure revolution will save save his neck.

Is a three tier democracy necessary?

“………but there is much going on behind the scenes which he cannot yet make public.””

What…………..he’s found MH370 again ??????????????????

That’s about as balanced Tim Dunlop has ever been: ‘they’re shit, because they’re all shit.’

However, I hope he’s wrong on this point: “[M]uch of the serious work of economic management now happens at the pan-national level via organisations like the G20 or the European Union. So-called free-trade agreements and other international contracts zap control from sovereign nations and hand it to these rootless instrumentalities, further undermining the role of parties and the governments they form.”

Government should be done at the closest possible level to the people it ‘serves’. Not the one furthest away.

‘such as…………..?’

Abbott has to override Bishop and sign up with Beijing’s infrastructure bank.

Turnbull has ZERO support in the party room.

Abbott needs to get rid of the deadwood like his Defence Minister and perceived deadwood like Andrews, Abetz and get a few more women into the Cabinet like Kelly O’Dwyer and probably Michaela Cash and move Julie Bishop to AG

Sack Hunt.

“Perhaps you are beginning to understand people’s opposition to these “free trade” agreements”

I’m pro-trade. Have a look at the cars people drive, the TVs they watch, the computer you’re looking at right now. It is international trade that gives us our affluent lifestyle. The iron ore we ship out, allows us to import all this stuff.

We have delegated foreign affairs and trade to the federal government. Those things can’t be done at a local level (that’s why I said at the closest possible level).

I notice nobody has commented on the fact that Craig Thomson has admitted to lying. This is the person that TomR, TB, Reb and Gillard had complete confidence in.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/thomson-lawyer-says-he-lied-over-using-union-money-for-prostitutes/story-e6frg6n6-1227134199285

“A BARRISTER representing Craig Thomson has told a judge that the former Labor MP lied about using union money to pay for prostitutes because he was “under attack” for moral turpitude. ”

Thomson also lied to Parliament.

I see nil is rewriting history.

My complaint was the assumption of guilt. Everyone deserves assumptions of innocence. I notice Kathy Jackson, who instigated this whole mess, had that assumption. Thomson never had it.

I notice yabot has the assumption of innocence even after it is discovered his daughter received a dodgy free education from a school that got preferential treatment from her father.

(Last time I checked, Neil, the matter was still sub judice; as indicated by all the incidental guff about County Court, judges and lawyers, legal argument, lodged appeal being heard, etcetera; what comment do you want people to make about an ongoing legal case, where simple reporting of the facts of that very case is about all the comment which people can lawfully make?

Oh, you’ve moved on to making prejudicial statements about guilt and innocence. Good for you, and for continuing to ignore the ‘due process’ contentions of the sundry named and shamed.)

Tooo funny

All the leftoid deadbeats come out and give reasons why they backed a lying piece of shit.

And if Thompson was a Coalition politician the leftoids would have been saying something different.

Tooo funny

What, that you won’t apologise for perpetuating ltdnews lies?

“Former MP Craig Thomson lied about using a union credit card to pay for prostitutes because he was ashamed, his barrister says.”

The quotation marks are because I am quoting News Ltd, not because News Ltd are quoting Greg James QC. In fact, James said, or intimated, no such thing whatsoever.

What Greg James was referring to in court is that the prosecution had in their evidence a section entitled ‘Lies’. This contained allegations of lying to the media, including the Laurie Oakes interview.

The point that James was making is that even if there were lies to the media, this could have been done for a number of reasons, including trying to save himself from embarrassment — but they are irrelevant to the case. It was not any form of admission of Thomson was lying, merely pointing out that it is a waste of money and court time to debate the alleged lies, they may as well debate global warming as discuss media coverage of Thomson’s interviews.

The fact, this topic is even spoken about tells us that the prosecution has designed their case for media consumption rather than to seek justice.

https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/will-craig-thomson-be-home-for-christmas,7129

Rarely has anything in this case been “reported” accurately, and it is all laden with either speculation or outright allegations as in this case which are unfounded and untrue. After the 15th Dec, I would hope Thom(p)son remains lawyered up and starts issuing apologies should the case go well for him.

If it doesn’t, whatever punishment that would be coming his way has already been meted out by a media with an agenda to pull down a Government. This explains my position well, so I’ll leave it this to explain, not that you will take any note in your blinkered ignorance.

In a case where you have had senior politicians proclaiming your guilt and a mainstream media baying for your blood, the burden of proof is put firmly on Thomson’s shoulders. It no longer becomes a matter of being proven guilty, with all of the political and media pressure one has to prove their innocence.

.a fucking lying sack of fucking scumbag shit.

For a while there, I thought you were talking about ltdnews 😉

We have delegated foreign affairs and trade to the federal government

That’s the point tosy, it is being taken away from control of our Government, and more and more into the back room of some dodgy international court that follows it’s own procedures, not standard practices.

And, seemingly, influenced by those with the deepest pockets (ie USofA)

I see TomR is still defending Craig thomson.

“”…………..mud sticks … as pollies know …””

Yes………Yes…………………I cry myself to sleep every night thinking about the poor treatment of Eddie Obeid and the whole Obeid family.

use your brains for thinking not yer dick

It was anticipated 😉

not that you will take any note in your blinkered ignorance.

😉

“Kneel is a monocular partisan arsehat.”

I am anti-ALP/Greens. It would be interesting to see what ALP supporters would be saying if Craig Thomson was a Coalition politician. I suspect that people would not be asking for “due process”

Also Gillard kept supporting this guy long after it was obvious that something was wrong. Gillards judgement was either poor as it usually is or she had an ulterior motive for supporting him.

Fascist Dictatorship

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/11/24/china_central_television_CCTV_reviled

We have delegated foreign affairs and trade to the federal government. Those things can’t be done at a local level

Have we? When did we do that & when were we, the people asked about it?
Did the federal govt give itself the role?

Why can’t the business unions do their own trade in their free market? They can manage to take themselves overseas and state their case to foreign traders can’t they? They are globetrotting all the time. Isn’t this still government protection of industry if the govt [both local and federal] are hawking, touting and deciding trade agreements on behalf of the australian people.

How close to the people it serves is a secret trade agreement that has never included us in any of the the discussions? Most times the public are very unhappy with the outcomes of these deals.

Oh silly me, my mistake, you mean the people it serves as big business, not the general public don’t you?