Rostrum: Utterly Disgusted Edition!
It wasn’t that long ago that we all felt that politics had reached the farther most depths of the murky cesspit of lies and filth with what was then called “the Howard government.”
Fast forward a few years and today those halcyon years seem pale in comparison to the gutter filth of Australian politics we have to contend with today.
Despite our once great democracy being trashed by the leprosypic lizard creature who inhabits the lodge, levity can still be found in the peripheries of parliament particularly in the form of the Palmer United Party (PUP).
The relationship between best friends and senior party colleagues Jacqui Lambie and Clive Palmer has taken what can best be described as “a digression from diplomacy,” with Clive Palmer calling Lambie a “liar” who needs psychiatric help.
Lambie herself is no stranger to controversy, having once weighed in at 104 kilograms, suffering from alcoholism, depression and waking in a Tasmanian psychiatric ward. It was against this backdrop that she emerged as the perfect candidate to represent Tasmania in Federal Parliament.
In a world where politicians are carefully scripted and manicured to within an inch of their lives before facing the media, PUP Leader Clive Palmer has launched his own style of media management which is set to re-write the rule book..
Go Clive!
“… a “liar” who needs psychiatric help”
On my calculation that applies to at least 50% of their parliamentary representation.
“… a “liar” who needs psychiatric help”
That may or may not be true, but, wither way, this still applies.
It says something about our politics that Jacqui Lambie and Ricky Muir are now part of the Coalition of Common Sense that is actually (on this occasion at least) making more sense than the government.
http://www.afr.com/p/opinion/global_triumph_conceals_house_of_jNWCX7lLYJBtDnJbp2DcXK
Even the fruit loops of the palmer disunited party make our actual grubmint look stupid by comparison
This morning, on the wireless, I heard the finance minister, Mathias Cormann, say the government wasn’t making cuts to the ABC.
The day before, I heard the communications minister, Malcolm Turnbull, say Tony Abbott hadn’t actually promised before last September’s election not to cut the budgets of the ABC and SBS. If Abbott had said something like that, then he didn’t mean it; and more likely, we’d all just misunderstood what the prime minister had said.
Also on Wednesday, I heard the prime minister tell the French president, Francois Hollande, that part of the Australian government’s policy arsenal to combat the risks associated with climate change involved funding an agency called the Clean Energy Finance Corporation.
What he didn’t tell the French president was the government intends to abolish the CEFC.
In politics at the present time, we are drowning in nonsense.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/20/abc-climate-change-the-coalition-is-drowning-us-in-nonsense
Far be it for me to point out that much of our inability to “hear correctly” just what the previous opposition was promising or were not promising could well be sheeted home to those now alarmingly looking at the fucking corrupt mess we now have “governing” us, and probably wondering ‘how could this have happened”?
I suppose Obama could pop over to Canada (or Canadia) and a talking to about the (likely) destruction of the world heritage listed glaciers on the Canadian/USA border
And pull down the tangled network near some of the other sites.
…and give them a talking to…
😯
‘…and give them a talking to…’
Fat chance, the Canadian PM is of sceptical bent and would down Obama on that score.
Maybe Obama isn’t interested in his daughters seeing the world heritage listed glaciers on the US/Canad(i)a border. Otherwise he’d be hanging around there lecturing them on the subject.
Apparently Its highly unusual for an Australian foreign minister to openly criticise a US president.
(“Fat chance, the Canadian PM is of sceptical bent and would down Obama on that score.”
Correct; it’s best to take the sugar off the table when navigating the hall of flags.)
‘He said certain products like sugar, rice, cotton and some grains, were “regrettably” excluded from the agreement.
“These products will be in high demand in China over coming years and must be included in the review arrangements after three years,” he said.
Not so bad, the demand is out there as China’s middle class grows. Patience is required.
Far be it for me to point out that much of our inability to “hear correctly”
That’s gold Tom… 🙂
“”Patience is required.””
These are ground breaking developments if we get it right in the way we produce stuff in so far as quality and quantity. China’s population was 1.357 Billion last year and India 1.252 Billion.
Its been estimated that China currently sits development wise at the approximate point that the USA was in 1910. Yep 104 years ago.
Sure it has between 15 and 20 million apartments vacant at the moment (apparently all those concrete shells don’t even have plumbing or electrical fitted, nor bathrooms) so we might have a slowdown at the moment but time will eventually munch thru the oversupply as we have seen in the USA.
As far as India is concerned with its development we will se. The new guy is doing some positive things like encouraging people to open bank accounts and start saving.
There are winners and losers in every FTA. Its upto Australians to spot the opportunities.
So I’m very positive about the possibilies of having access to 2 combined markets 100 times the size of our population.
“So I’m very positive”
Well that’s a fkn first!!
All that Walrus said is true, a time of great prosperity looms.
“So I’m very positive”
Well that’s a fkn first!!
Until you figure the “Its upto (sic) Australians to spot the opportunities.
The “Australians” are the catlik duo of Barnaby Joyce and Andrew Robb … the same intellectual prowess as Clivey!
Just WTF is actually running my country?
And guess what Clivey’s religion is … Jesus wept … another liar, cheat, oops, he might sue me!
“And guess what Clivey’s religion is “
Money….?
‘China currently sits development wise at the approximate point that the USA was in 1910.’
If we become the food bowl of Asia, then Australia is situated around mid 19th century America, as they began to build the transcontinental railway to open up the west.
Money….?
Sharp … they all seem to be avaricious bastards …
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If we become the food bowl of Asia, then Australia is situated around mid 19th century America, as they began to build the transcontinental railway to open up the west.
Just ’cause China is situated at 1910 (I’d like a link for that – although I don’t think Wally has the aptitude for links) … that doesn’t mean Australia is you fool!
l suspect teabag-media are making much more of the Clive and Jaqui Show than is warranted, however, stay tuned, Clive will do more on-air walk-outs and unhinge folks like Emma in the future. Like a certain reportland, latelineland and the rest of my abc, won`t have learned any lessons in dealing with Clive and the other `new-comers`, so l suspect while you won`t be informed viewers, you `will` be entertained!
””Not so bad, the demand is out there as China’s””
(For Certain; citizens of Canadia will be `over-joyed` when they receive their first consignment of maple syrup from China, where the value-adding can be done much cheaper and cleaner.)
‘… that doesn’t mean Australia is you fool!’
Progress won’t stop just because you want it to. Keep your eyes on these borers, bet they could easily burrow through the sandstone curtain.
””If we become the food bowl of Asia””
Still running with this horse-shit huh dumpty. Even the bumpkins like katter and barnaby will tell you this is crap. At best `we` will be the glorified `occasional` snack supplier.
Those two are playing it down, don’t want to startle the horses.
‘… that doesn’t mean Australia is you fool!’
Progress won’t stop just because you want it to. Keep your eyes on these borers, bet they could easily burrow through the sandstone curtain.
WTF are you on … you went back to fkn 1910 with the dick
I can’t find the recipe thread.
‘…you went back to fkn 1910 with the dick’
Yeah, but I went further.
””””’Keep your eyes on these borers, bet they could easily burrow through the sandstone curtain.
WTF are you on … you went back to fkn 1910 with the dick”””TB/dumpty
@TB, dumpty is wetting herself over `road-tunnel-borers` building more fcuking toll-roads/tunnels and private-railroad under sydny/nsw. There is 4of`em in total, l know one is currently digging, can`t remember is the other 3-borers are made/delivered yet.
#teabag-panty-wetting
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/21/victorian-election-transparency-campaigners-say-state-lags-on-integrity
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/21/lord-monckton-lends-support-to-victorian-micro-party-rise-up-australia
On the up-side dumpty, the 4-tunnel borers are providing minimal employment to aussies, another `wonderful` decision by teabags, regular strength and unleaded. The important thing is they made sure all the value-adding jobs were done in North-america, asia and europa!
this is why we keep getting crap,
”””’In state and federal elections, about 95% of people opt to vote above the line, with their preferences allocated according to the party’s choice.””””
and monckton is in vic, helping the cranks
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/21/lord-monckton-lends-support-to-victorian-micro-party-rise-up-australia
Do victorians need more cranks.? Doesn`t canberra fulfill their `crank` requirements.? Do they have nsw disease.?
Catchy tune!!
http://riseupaustraliaparty.com/?page_id=1136
””transparency campaigners say state lags on integrity””
””Major parties have rejected proposals to strengthen anti-corruption body and political funding rules, say former judges
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/21/victorian-election-transparency-campaigners-say-state-lags-on-integrity
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””Both the Liberal and Labor parties have rejected proposals to strengthen Victoria’s anti-corruption body and political funding rules, a non-partisan group has found.””
Yep team-cheerers, another example of `regular` and `unleaded` teabags undermining the confidence of the public, with no sign of improvement.
#nice find/s dunny
‘WTF are you on …’
(Co-incidentally: Left or right-wing? Brain’s disgust response tells all.
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“Progress won’t stop just because you want it to. Keep your eyes on these borers, bet they could easily burrow through the sandstone curtain.”
Keep digging?)
Political correctness gone mad!!
“Co-incidentally: Left or right-wing? Brain’s disgust response tells all.”
THAT’S DISGUSTING!!
Baird is almost certain to stay in power for a decade, he’s a natural.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/premier-mike-baird-sidesteps-his-governments-scandals-to-streak-ahead-of-labor-in-latest-galaxy-opinion-poll/story-fni0cx12-1227131294206
How to win an election without really trying.
‘Plans for the extra harbour tunnel have been under development for months, and are expected to be included in the next State Infrastructure Strategy, due for imminent release.’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/revealed-second-sydney-harbour-road-tunnel-20141121-11r3e1.html#ixzz3Jk6d3M9B
So Obama just willfully ignored advice about a speech that intervened in domestic politics, but it is contentious when a politician provides a political reply…
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/in-depth/obama-ignored-embassys-warnings-on-climate-change-speech/story-fnpebfcn-1227131290194
“BARACK Obama defied the ¬advice of his embassy in Canberra to deliver a stinging attack on the Abbott government’s climate policies in Brisbane last weekend.”
If this is true why would Obama do something like that? What is the motive?
Ellis just Broke me up today…
http://www.ellistabletalk.com/2014/11/22/testing/
I suppose if you’re The President of the US of A, you might believe it is your RIGHT to determine the agenda of any meeting you’re attending, and might feel a little miffed if everyone doesn’t fall for your charm, and power!!
Particularly if the previous PM did lots of giggling and footy handballing to show how enthralled she was with a Powerful and Charming President of the US of A!!
It does appear the Alliance is on sounder footing with Bishop and Abbott at the helm. China quietly woos us with flattery and the promise of a golden century for all humanity, by comparison America is in quite a bit of debt and lacks a similar vision.
So its OK in my book to rebuke the leader of the free world for being an idiotic lame duck.
(“It does appear the Alliance is on sounder footing with Bishop and Abbott at the helm.”
Indeed…
“Bishop’s personal political stocks have soared in recent months due to some forceful international diplomacy on the MH17 disaster and the rise of the Islamic State terrorist group. Her intervention on the Reef is unlikely to faze Obama, or harm relations. But some of the gloss has come of Bishop’s credentials as a moderate alternative to Abbott.”)
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you might believe it is your RIGHT to determine the agenda of any meeting you’re attending
Actually yomm, it was the G19 who wanted to talk about it. yabot thought that as HOST he could set the agenda.
It was no secret that the G19 wanted it on the agenda. In the end, it appears that they just decided to ignore yabots ignorance and boorishness and discuss what they all wanted to discuss.
I’m pretty sure Obama didn’t mind speaking a few truths after yabot pig ignorant display of earlier this year when in Canadia he tried to get a group of like minded denier nations to stymie America, and then went grovelling to Obama saying the fucking opposite. What a man of traction
Well, Obama certainly put the dampers on that 🙂
It’s not hard to see why yabot’s considered “the Village Idiot” or, as someone else put it
So its OK in my book to rebuke the leader of the free world for being an idiotic lame duck.
Funny, weren’t youse yousual suspects saying the same thing shortly before the last election over there?
And yet the little ducky is still getting around splashing shit on little upstarts 😆
yor book
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(Elsewhere, something vaguely thematic (and orange’n’blue), from David Pope…
And, on a more or less upbeat note: Great Barrier Reef will be ‘slaughtered’: scientists dismiss Julie Bishop’s claim reef not at risk.)
So Obama just willfully ignored advice
This, considering the sauce, is the relevant bit yomm
If this is true
Not that the intrepid reporters of the murdoch stables would misrepresent anything to suit their agenda. They are all far above that sort of behavior 😉
“There’s no doubt about that at all, if carbon-dioxide emissions keep on tracking as they are.”
I couldn’t possibly comment.
(Speaking of NewsCrop and sauces, “How many Australian summers are not hot summers?”, Tony Abbott asks, today, from poolside in Hornsby. And, anecdotally-speaking, it seems the sort of question which NewsCrop might make some attempt to answer, yesterday: Yep, summer’s gonna be a scorcher, and El Niño’s got a lot do with it (Bonus: we explain what an El Niño actually is).)
“How many Australian summers are not hot summers?”
Not many.
‘In nearly 100 years of forecasting, this is one of the biggest anomalies the Bureau has ever seen.’
Difficult to tell with so much homogenisation going on, but I know for a fact that 1879 saw a bigger anomalie.
From your SMH link Meta
Ove Hoegh-Guldberg, director of the university’s Global Change Institute
ROFL
Yea, I’ll bet he doesn’t even own a snorkel, so what would he know!
I have read a first hand account from a REAL ziontist (?), who actually claims to OWN a snorkel that it is fine. So move along, nothing to see here!
Those Hawaiian shirt wearing pranksters can just go back to their “data” and “models” that just happened to accurately predict what we are currently experiencing and shove it up their “consensus” as far as it’ll fit.
We don’t need Evidence, we got Snorkels!
“How many Australian summers are not hot summers?”, Tony Abbott asks,
But how many ineptid churnalists bothered to ask “but how many are this hot?”, perhaps with a follow up “and how many of those are within the last decade or so?”
I know for a fact that 1879 saw a bigger anomalie.
ROFL
egg and facts
ROFL
Particularly if the previous PM did lots of giggling and footy handballing to show how enthralled she was with a Powerful and Charming President of the US of A!!
Really yomm, it’s time to move on and just get over her. It can’t be good for the Sole
😆
“but how many are this hot?”
PM: ‘Its been a warm Spring, there is no denying it, but there is no certainty that this summer will be warmer than usual. BoMs seasonal forecasting is shit.’
The Third Way
‘There’s also the very real chance that when Xi is celebrating Confucius, he is speaking from his heart, not his political head—that this is the real Xi, committed to both the classics and the Marxist establishment at the same time, and looking for a way to combine the two into a new political program for the nation.’
R L Moses
WSJ
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/ebola-threatens-global-security-bishop/story-e6frfku9-1227131487406
Lame duck Obama is taking the opportunity to wedge loons & pantywetters all over the place.
Highly amusing.
YomM sure is putting up a spirited rearguard defence of the Abbott Government. Interesting.
Alternative interpretation…
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/21/tony-abbott-keeps-digging-himself-in-deeper-and-it-makes-no-sense
“Lame duck Obama is taking the opportunity to wedge loons & pantywetters all over the place”
If that is why Obama said what he did, I would find that strange. Just to create trouble?
I think a growing population will do more damage to the reef than any increase in CO2. A growing population means more land clearing, more farms, more agricultural run-off, more shipping and more everything. I think increasing CO2 is not a problem for the reef.
Yep, I think it is hilarious when the ALP pretends to get all bothered about us upsetting our Great and Powerful Friend.
I preferred Obama to the Republican slime Mitt Romney, but then I preferred Hilary Clinton to Obama.
It’s quite clear that Obama doesn’t give a crap about whether he’s doing Abbott any political favours or not, which is fine with me, but it the expressions of concern about Bishop’s reply by Tanya Plibersek is extremely amusing.
I seem the recall the ALP condemning the Howard govt for sucking up to the USA.
All the ALP seems to do is suck up to Obama. Gillard was the worst.
I meant anti-AGW loons & anti(US)immigration pantywetters; just to clarify.
Did you read the links, YomM? which go some way towards putting the ludicrous contradictory stances of our current government under the microscope.
Of course the ALP is going to make hay out of it all. I wonder if the last opposition employed similar opportunist tactics?
Personally, I think Obama is fully aware he’s been politically neutered for the rest of his tenure, and he’s doing some fairly calculated political maneuvering which may bear fruit in the next race (for which he is ineligible) for POTUS (especially with yesterday’s announcements on US immigration). The hubris of the US Right at the moment is short sighted & possibly fatally triumphalist.
Is now the right time to say how disgusted I am?
Very.Extremely.Utterly.“I seem the recall the ALP condemning the Howard govt for sucking up to the USA.”
No Australian government should ‘suck up to the USA’, but they all do.
If Obama carried on about jihadist threats in Australia, condemned our ‘boat people’ or praised Big Coal, the Abbott Government would be publically licking his arse from the highest rooftops by tomorrow morning.
They only got bent out of shape because their flatearthish tendencies got pricked by POTUS.
“flatearthish tendencies”
Guffaw.
But no. Without even a flicker of irony, Abbott and Bishop again dug in further, arguing one reason Australia didn’t intend to commit to the international Green Climate Fund was that it already had the domestic CEFC (neglecting to mention this was only because they haven’t been able to get rid of it yet).
From toilets link at 6:01 pm, which, as he mentioned, goes a long way in explaining just how stupid and inept yabot and his ministers have been on the issue of (“insert issue here”)
I seem the recall the ALP condemning the Howard govt for sucking up to the USA.
I seem the recall the ALP condemning the Howard govt for blindly following the USA into an abysmal war based on a lie.
Whereas now, we are having a hissy fit all because the USA (and the remaining G19 nations) are taking the best advice of scientists and economists, instead of listening to nutjobs and crazies on the internets like our grubmint is doing.
The article linked to by toilet is an excellent one highlighting just how bereft of anything resembling a clue this grubmint is.
flatearthish tendencies
🙂
Again, from toilets link
Bolt reckons the government should dig harder, be more ideological and intransigent.
I disagree. I think it would be better, politically and in the interests of good policy and general sanity, for the government to stop digging for a while.
I get the feeling, with the likes of bolt egging them on, the digging will continue for quite a while yet.
Pro-COALitionists in this country act like the last election was a referendum on AGW, which they imagine themselves to have won. In actual fact, it was a pseudo-referendum on the Carbon ‘Tax’/ETS.
Not the same things.
I love how anti_AGW zealots align themselves with anti-abortion & other conservative nutjobbery (ala Monckton).
Says heaps about their intended target demographic.
“The article linked to by toilet is an excellent one highlighting just how bereft of anything resembling a clue this grubmint is.”
Oh. Lenore taylor states her predictable opinion in the Guardian on the government and climate change. Quelle surprise.
(Taylor’s opinions are as predictable as Tom R’s agreeing with them.)
“I love how anti_AGW zealots align themselves with anti-abortion & other conservative nutjobbery (ala Monckton).”
I love how you conflate completely different issues to (try and) discredit AGW sceptics. But DENIERS(!) are all nutjobz, so all’s fair in love and war, I suppose?
I think maybe someone’s been over-imbibing the Crikey Kool-Aid.
“There’s no doubt about that at all, if carbon-dioxide emissions keep on tracking as they are.”
I couldn’t possibly comment.
Overtly …
“How many Australian summers are not hot summers?”
Not many.
Do you actually live in Australia …?
but I know for a fact that 1879 saw a bigger anomalie.
Got a link for that? (a credible link)
There’s also the very real chance that when Xi is celebrating Confucius, he is speaking from his heart, not his political head—that this is the real Xi, committed to both the classics and the Marxist establishment at the same time, and looking for a way to combine the two into a new political program for the nation.’
Ignorant incompatibility!
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I think a growing population will do more damage to the reef than any increase in CO2. A growing population means more land clearing, more farms, more agricultural run-off, more shipping and more everything. I think increasing CO2 is not a problem for the reef.
LOL! LOL! LOL! .,…
Yes. I wonder who Lenore votes for? It generally easy to work out which party a journalist votes for.
I will believe a politician believes in AGW when they stop using fossil fuels. Coal exports exploded under Rudd/Gillard. The USA is getting lots of gas from fracking.
Yeah, it’s the political hypocrisy I love.
But I haven’t read the links and now I’m on my way out for some frivolity, with some people that will pretend they’re 25 by 10 pm.
… it’s the political hypocrisy I love…
On both sides, I’m enthralled by the ability of politicians to make statements diametrically opposed without apparently being aware of how ridiculous they look.
“It generally easy to work out which party a journalist votes for.”
Or who they barrack for. You can generally tell by which paper they work for.
You’ll notice leftoids here will link to the SMH, The Age, The Guardian, and The saturday Paper.
Wingnuts will link to the Australian, The Daily Telegraph, and The Herald Sun.
That’s because the articles/opinion pieces published will generally support their point of view.
“I love how you conflate completely different issues to (try and) discredit AGW sceptics.”
You may find that it was Monckton et al who brought those issues under the ‘same banner’.
I can’t take credit for the conflation!
I think maybe you are conflating The Guardian with Crikey (which I’ve never subscribed to & never visited, apart from when links to it are [rarely] posted here…or during the amusing Pure Poison interlude) BTW.
I didn’t register a personal position on AGW anywhere above. And I know that most of them only pay lip service to it, Neil.
“On both sides, I’m enthralled by the ability of politicians to make statements diametrically opposed without apparently being aware of how ridiculous they look.”
I believe they are massaging their non-attentive base (before they throw them under the next expedient bus) because they must & it’s virtually effortless.
Often times, they overestimate the magnitude of said base.
I read polemics from both sides of the fence. I’ve probably linked Bolt more than any ‘left’ site ever. Feel free to verify if you’re bored.
I wouldn’t read AIMN though, because it’s not ‘independent’ of cheap partisan gravy…as borne by its genesis.
“I didn’t register a personal position on AGW anywhere above. ”
Really? You commented on the current governments “flatearthish tendencies”. I’m keen to hear what else could you possibly have been referring to.
Didn’t notice much critique of what Taylor penned though…aside from the fact that she had an opinion.
“aside from the fact that she had an opinion.”
Well, that says it all, doesn’t it? She’s pro-Labor, and all her writings confirm it. What’s to critique?
(Pick out some points, if you can be bothered. Let’s see how they stand up.)
“the amusing Pure Poison interlude”
Yeah. Hilarious. That Ross Sharp was always a barrell of laughs.
‘Got a link for that?’
The USA is getting lots of gas from fracking.
Its their diet …
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On both sides, I’m enthralled by the ability of politicians to make statements diametrically opposed without apparently being aware of how ridiculous they look.
One side seems to do it a bit more than the other at the moment … but I get your “drift” …
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That’s because the articles/opinion pieces published will generally support their point of view.
And those of us who have actually read (and have a copy of) The Art of War … will link to the opposite to “their point of view” …
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(Pick out some points, if you can be bothered. Let’s see how they stand up.)
That’s just being picky, ToSY! 🙄
‘Ignorant incompatibility!’
Too early to call, my Marxist associate says ‘China is not a role model for any country. It is a fascist dictatorship!!!!’
“And those of us who have actually read (and have a copy of) The Art of War … will link to the opposite to “their point of view” …”
Good to know you think you’re at war. Got an example of when you’ve done that?
“Pick out some points, if you can be bothered. Let’s see how they stand up”
Maybe you’d like to write about what she said that you disagree with & why?
see what I did there“Maybe you’d like to write about what she said that you disagree with & why?”
Yeah, not really. You lazily linked to her. I lazily didn’t bother reading your link. Tom R lazily praised your link. I lazily criticised his praise. You lazily asked for a critique of her opinion. I lazily asked you to pick out some debating points. You lazily asked me to pick them out.
This is me saying I’m too lazy to bother doing anything of the sort.
#lazyleftoidlenore
Xi visits the land of the long white cloud.
‘Key said New Zealand and China have a tremendous future together and there are numerous opportunities for them to hope for a higher and better standard of living for their people.
“For that relationship to be truly successful, it is not just a matter of central governments working together or indeed people working together. It is also very important that we make sure that our local governments intertwine and work closely together,” he said.
China Daily
egg, that’s a graph not a link … graphs need explanation … (don’t bother I found it anyway) ..
… one year is not enough … but I notice the trend is down … got a graph (and link) for 1996 t0 2013? Now that’s a bit harder to find …
‘China is not a role model for any country. It is a fascist dictatorship!!!!’
Get some new friends … China is Marxist state with elected reps … fascism is 180 degrees away … a true diktat …
‘got a graph (and link) for 1996 t0 2013? Now that’s a bit harder to find …’
”””””””””’Or who they barrack for. You can generally tell by which paper they work for.
You’ll notice leftoids here will link to the SMH, The Age, The Guardian, and The saturday Paper.
Wingnuts will link to the Australian, The Daily Telegraph, and The Herald Sun.””””””
#this a pretty simplistic summary Tinfoil`osy. lf your`e only talking about `link-dropping` then you are possibly `somewhat` correct. (l aint seen data on it)
#if ya`talking about page-hit referrals, Limited-News pays google more and usually has the top search results, 11-million aussies on fakebook, get their numbers, fb-users are the big proportion at the moment.(l`m not on fb, so can`t quote)
#But l would still guess subscribers/followers, rss, social-family recommendations are the most effective(meaning READ, not skim) webpages.
#but if you were only meaning `link-dropping`, should/do you include paid-to-troll like dumpty and kneel, or `mockery when dunny drops bolt.? lts` not quantity that counts, which is missed big-time by corporates.
Wingnuts will link to the Australian, The Daily Telegraph, and The Herald Sun.
Am I a wingnut now? Mind you, mostly when I link to the oz, it’s to highlight how they have got it wrong, again, with supporting links to evidence that shows how they got it wrong. Real wingnuts use “well, they would say that” as their evidence, hey tosy 😉
aside from the fact that she had an opinion.
To be pedantic, toilet, it was a series of facts littered with related facts that highlighted the inanity of the grubmints alternating positions 😉
I wouldn’t read AIMN though, because it’s not ‘independent’ of cheap partisan gravy
I have drifted awy from the Independent Australia site for the same reason toilet, although, I still do drift back from time to time. I find myself more often than not at New Matilda, who appear to be fairly frank and uncompromising in their reporting.
She’s pro-Labor, and all her writings confirm it.
Yea tosy, except when she was mixing her sauces 😉
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/how-long-can-it-last-20110902-1jq7c.html
Pick out some points, if you can be bothered. Let’s see how they stand up.</i.
I'm up for it 😉
1) she quotes bishop "“Of course the Great Barrier Reef will be preserved for generations to come. We don’t believe it is in danger,” Bishop said, with complete certainty."
Lenore highlights the inanity by mentioning this "“Recent extreme climatic events show significant vulnerability of some ecosystems and many human systems to current climate variability (very high confidence)" which comes from "the most recent report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which says (in chapter 25 – the one about Australasia):" or "Even the government’s own “outlook report”, from the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority, found climate change posed the most serious threat reef"
So, as I mentioned, the best scientific advice tells us that the GBR IS under extreme pressure from Climate Change, yet bishop wants to lecture Obama by saying "will not!"
WTF!!
Again, highlighting the inanity and absolute bare faced cheek of the grubmint, she goes on
2)"Without even a flicker of irony, Abbott and Bishop again dug in further, arguing one reason Australia didn’t intend to commit to the international Green Climate Fund was that it already had the domestic CEFC (neglecting to mention this was only because they haven’t been able to get rid of it yet)."
This, after bragging about repealing the main driver of our emission reduction, the ETS.
But number three is the corker. After screaming for years about "trust", now,apparently, it is our inability to listen correctly which has let us down (don't they unnerstand we have inernets still, murdochs master plan has not come yet come to fruition), not the grubmint saying one thing before the election, and another after.
3) "“Well – well, look, you know, I mean, I’ve defended the prime minister on this today and earlier in the week. I think you’ve got to take his comments, which – look, I mean, what he said, he said, and, you know, it’s there, it’s on the record. But you’ve got to take that in the context. And I can only assume that what Mr Abbott was referring to or was thinking about, anyway, was the proposition that there would be cuts in – with the intent of reducing ABC services and we’ve ruled that out,” he said, not sounding coherent or convincing."
Take yer pick tosy, which one are you knocking over first 😉
I'll be back in the morning, as I still have far too much of the bottle left 😉
🙂
‘Get some new friends … ‘
They are waiting for the revolution, Marx said it would come from an advanced capitalist society. They are disconnected from reality and are not aware that China will bring them their revolution.
“We don’t believe it is in danger,” Bishop said, with complete certainty.’
And for good scientific reasons.
‘So, as I mentioned, the best scientific advice tells us that the GBR IS under extreme pressure from Climate Change’
‘Best scientific advice’ is probably from Ove, alarmist and unreliable.
““Recent extreme climatic events show significant vulnerability of some ecosystems and many human systems to current climate variability (very high confidence)”
And I can find scientists who claim the IPCC is talking through its hat. There have been no extreme climate events of particular interest and any that you spot I’ll prove that it was caused by natural variability.
‘got a graph (and link) for 1996 t0 2013? Now that’s a bit harder to find …’
I think its been referred to as Climate Change for a few years now … just a bit different to Global Warming ….
Anyway … enough … I’d hate to get you banned again …
==========================================
… apparently, it is our inability to listen correctly …
We must be sleepwalking over a cliff or sumfin’, TR … 😯
”””””’Am I a wingnut now?(#l`m sure you do your best tomR) Mind you, mostly when I link to the oz, it’s to highlight how they have got it wrong, again,”””””’
#sure TomR, Tinfoil`osy`s comment is a bit simplistic, tho not entirely wrong either, its just one of those subjects with many variables, most of which aren`t measured, and/or can`t be measured. As l`ve said elsewhere, l too make use of the`troll` community in a very different way to which `they` intend.
EG-1 Our very own paid-to-troll dumpty has dropped so many `junk-science`-links, which l have used to build a pretty fine `denial` email filter.
EG-2 Limited-News pay google to put them at the top of search results, even bolt, but when l`ve clicked thru to bolt, it is never to `buy`, but just to glean some of the details like `flannery` or `report-name` or `victim-of-attack` etc, which l then use to build a better search query(as we both know bolt will be pointing in the wrong direction to a solution)
lt is very generous of corporations to provide these `trolls` of bad information and low intelligence that rapidly provide the public with an `anti-promotion` of their cause. Ruperts generosity should also not be over-looked in not only providing australians with boosted-to-top google results, but also his dedication to bonfiring about $25-mill a year(now his own money, not stock-holders) on the journalistic titanic `teh-oz`, on which deck-chairs can only be shuffled as it scrapes along the digital-media ice-berg and pops all its rivets.
My italics appear to have got the better of me last night. C’est la vie
as for egg and his continuing lying.
And for good scientific reasons.
Name them
And I can find scientists who claim the IPCC is talking through its hat.
A couple of words missing there, quite deliberately. Like “reputable” and “show”, as in “show the IPCC”
I’ll prove that it was caused by natural variability.
Go on, start with what is happening in America right now with the snowfalls. Show us yer “proof”.
And I’m guessing that, anticipating the response (should it even come and be related (see below)), we won’t be hearing from you for a short period of “sin-binned” time. And,considering the “link” you put up (read, irrelevant picture graph from a site TB had already warned you about not using, for the reasons I am about to mention) which you seemed to claim showed a bigger anomaly in 1879 but in fact was a link to a renowned denialist site that was whinging about homogenisation, it is probably already well past that time.
http://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/09/absolutely-politically-incorrect-maximum-temperatures-at-bourke-and-bathurst/
Go and read the scientists reply to similar rubbish in the oz, and perhaps educate yourself if that is at all possible. Take specific note of this passage.
Far from being a fudge to make warming look more severe than it is, most of the Bureau’s data manipulation has in fact had the effect of reducing the apparent extreme temperature trends across Australia. Cherrypicking weather stations where data have been corrected in a warming direction doesn’t mean the overall picture is wrong.
http://theconversation.com/no-the-bureau-of-meteorology-is-not-fiddling-its-weather-data-31009
The remarkable thing in all this is that the marohasy article is printed weeks after the Conversation article dispelling the rubbish the oz was peddling. but marohasy was quite happy to ignore that entirely and blithely plow on as if she was onto some vast conspiracy. It is for this very reason that you get sin binned. You, like her, fabricate, misrepresent and outright lie (as above) and then, when caught out, ignore replies.
yor pathetic
‘Anyway … enough … I’d hate to get you banned again … ‘
In all the years I’ve known you, this is the sweetest thing you have ever said.
‘…when caught out, ignore replies.
‘yor pathetic’
Yeah, if you say so.
Yeah, if you say so.
it says, ignoring yet again.
Well TR, you are free to speak and I am not, so I’ll return to Tony’s art classes.
Yea, run you pathetic little troll
We must be sleepwalking over a cliff or sumfin’
or sumfin’ TB 😉
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell
You telling the truth is an impossible act grodowormtongue
What’s your excuse for the irrelevant graph you dished up to TB?
Egg has his own version of the truth, like Nil she is delusional derailing troll
‘What’s your excuse for the irrelevant graph you dished up to TB?’
What don’t you put up a couple of graphs and we’ll discuss them?
I put up a whole post before which you have ignored, as you are currently ignoring your explanation for the graph you presented TB, against prior warnings for doing so.
This is hilarious, given the posts above from the yousual suspects trying to blame Obama for yabots failures
Naturally the reptiles at the Oz scurried to the scene to attempt to repair the damage, and to point the finger at the Kenyan socialist who’d started all the fuss:
http://loonpond.blogspot.com.au/2014/11/please-keep-digging.html#.VG-zqIuUeAo
But you’re just being a spoilsport Ms Taylor, ruining everyone’s fun. If we’ve got the windmills, of course we must have loons that will tilt at them … that’s the natural order.
ROFL
What’s your excuse for the irrelevant graph you dished up to TB?
there never is one, just ignore the challenges and go on to the next fabrication, it is done deliberately and knowingly, not ignorance, pure propaganda.
What don’t you put up a couple of graphs and we’ll discuss them?
No, why don’t you explain yours and your deceit, as asked? You are the one denying the accepted science.
not ignorance, pure propaganda.
touche ao 😉
‘your explanation for the graph you presented TB’
BoM looks no further back than 1900 and we were discussing the 1879 global warming blip. This is a story yet to be told.
Global Temperatures Are the Hottest on Record for a Fifth Month This Year…
http://time.com/3598872/global-temperatures-are-the-hottest-on-record-for-a-fifth-month-this-year/
BoM looks no further back than 1900 and we were discussing the 1879 global warming blip.
But you claimed it was proof of an 1879 anomaly, now you claim we don’t have the evidence
So, you lied, after TB specifically asked you not to.
“This is a story yet to be told.”
Only in your own mind, cretin.
“This is a story yet to be told.”
Yet further back up the thread, it gave the impression that this picture graph was all the proof needed to show an anomaly (which it didn’t, and which was lifted from a denailist site which in turn was proven wrong even before the post was written)
“against prior warnings for doing so
Tom R is issuing warnings now. Interesting.
Tom R is issuing warnings now.
fyi tosy, I wasn’t the issuer.
If the reef is declared endangered #coal ports may not go ahead. Hence flap over Obama talk.
A valid point, if it were any Government but this grubmint.
“It is becoming pretty clear that 2014 will end up as the warmest year on record,” said Deke Arndt,”
That’s roughly 114 years.
That’s roughly 114 years.
Again you refuse to respond to the points put to you from your previous ignorant claims before making more ignorant ones
are you really that stupid?
Yet another thread hijacked by egg and her pet topic…. *sigh*
My colleague Meta started the ball rolling, he’s obviously unaware of the sensitivity surrounding the issue.
My colleague Meta started the ball rolling
bullshit troll. You did when you started posting irrelevant pictures and making ludicrous claims you refuse to back up or even engage in.
Just because you are a lying sack of shit doesn’t mean that nobody else is able to discuss a matter. It means that you should refrain from TROLLING!
My colleague Meta started the ball rolling, he’s obviously unaware of the sensitivity surrounding the issue.
always blaming everyone else, take responsibility for your own actions.
Tom R is issuing warnings now.
not as if you heed any warnings, even from the blog owner, you treat them all as a dare and when caught out again you play the martyr who has had their free speech limited.
Free speech doesn’t apply to a vexatious litigant.
my mistake, i thought the above quote was from egg and have just realised it is from tosy – my apologies.
my reply is to hard boiled egg, not tosy
we should all be issuing warnings, can’t you see that reb has had enough of the deliberate hijacking of conversations here?
reb has had enough of the deliberate hijacking of conversations here?
Personally, I have no problem with hte topic. What I have an issue with is deliberate trolling of a topic without any real intent to discuss it in any meaningful manner.
TB asked him to show his alleged ‘anomaly”, and without reference to a denier.
Not only did grog fail to put anything resembling evidence for an anomaly up, the picture piece he put up was from an unrelated denialist post which hilariously enough was posted AFTER it had already be rebutted.
One thing is clear, the denialati have lost all hope. They are now nothing more than a cabal of mules following each other down into a pit of coalescing ignorance and willful blindness.
It wouldn’t be a real problem, except for the fact in Australia we call this cabal out Federal Government. 😦
http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php?a=110&p=7
http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php?a=110&p=7#106243
http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php?a=110&p=7#106245
btw tosy I’m up for it
still 🙂
Meta started the ball rolling on November 22 at 3:35 pm.
‘What I have an issue with is deliberate trolling of a topic without any real intent to discuss it in any meaningful manner.’
I’m feeling hamstrung, but if the editor put up a post we could sort it out once and for all.
I’m feeling hamstrung, but if the editor put up a post we could sort it out once and for all.
Hamstrung? That’s never stopped you before.
…Put up a post? You had a whole fkn permanent post/topic and you still managed to abuse the privilege. Why should reb put up a post to ‘sort it out’ it’s long been sorted.
‘And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed – if all records told the same tale – then the lie passed into history and became truth. “Who controls the past,” ran the Party slogan, “controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”
George Orwell
Meta started the ball rolling on November 22 at 3:35 pm.
Bullshit you ignorant little fuckwit, Meta simply put up a topical link about a current event and something very stupid our denialist grubmint said.
YOU started trolling at 4:44 pm with yer “anomaly” bullshit, which you couldn’t back up, and instead posted another irrelevant fucking picture from another already debunked and delusional fucking denialist thread
Don’t try and pass off the blame for your incessant trolling to somebody else who simply wanted to post something loosely related to your ignorant fixation.
Here’s a thought, try and address the points people raise with you, instead of galloping off on another fishng expedition, and people might not call you a troll.
And don’t try and blame others for your inability to pass a cognitive spark within that fucking empty grey matter in yor otherwise empty shell of a head.
Just went back and had a closer look and remember thinking at the time that Meta might be taking the piss. So I kept it light and then TB jumped in and I answered his questions with graphs, which as you can appreciate is better than a lot of words.
Anyways. I’m actually at the Botanic gardens where it is a lovely sunny day. We packed a picnic and a flask of tea. There’s quite a large extended Arab family wearing a variety of headscarves. One woman is wearing the full head to toe black burqa which in 28 degree heat doesn’t really seem all that practical nor comfortable… I get the idea that it’s meant show religious commitment or some such nonsense, but in this weather she just looks like a walking solar panel.
No one is interested egg. How about just fucking off somewhere else for a while.
I answered his questions with graphs
That’s the point you miserable little tool, your pictograph didn’t say or do anything, except prove you are a pointless troll.
You can take rebs advice, and fuck off for a while (or for good imo), or try and show why the pictograph is relevant in any way shape or form, especially since I have now provided it with “context”
she just looks like a walking solar panel.
Although, I have heard (although not directly related to that specific garb) that, although they may not look it, Arab clothes are in fact ideally suited for hot, dry climates.
I’m actually at the Botanic gardens where it is a lovely sunny day. We packed a picnic and a flask of tea.
tea? OK, if that’s what yo want to call it.
Sounds ideal, I’m jealous. I’m stuck home, again, trying to clean up after tradesmen and attempt to catch up on gardening (pulling weeds out, which is all ‘gardening’ seems to be)
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/coal-seam-gas-report-on-santos-site-kept-secret-by-environment-protection-agency-20141122-11r4cc.html
a picnic and a flask of tea
A flask of fkn TEA?
28 degree heat
HEAT? 28 degrees? … are you unwell?
Burqas don’t exactly generate and electricity, sreb … hot, dry climates. This is Melbourne, TR … 28 degrees? DRY?
As for fkn tradies … anytime I’v had any in here (tilers, lekkies, plumbers) I end up finishing off the bloody job …
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Well colour me surprised “LNP took donations from coal seam gas companies, Senate inquiry told
Nah! Rupert’s Raiders said the Senate Inquiry was just a laughable farce … chuckle … I wonder if Clivey might be having some second thoughts now?
tilers, lekkies, plumbers
Tell me about it
fixing a tilers fuck up at the moment. I was gonna do the plumbing, but, he actually did a good job, the electrics I just do meself (red goes to … whatever fucken color the ‘lectrician’ decided to plug into, fucken morons!!)
But tilers!! BAH. They’re a fucken swear word at the moment. Ours didn’t unnerstand the concept of gravity. water goes downhill fuckhead!!
And that’s after we made him pull the floor up once already to get rid of the obvious shit (we worked out then we’d fucked up getting him), now, it’s just me tryin to fix his shit 😦
Oh well, ya get what ya pay for; going for the cheapest isn’t always the best. But, as I told me better half, I’d be more pissed off if we got the expensive one and he had gravity issues too 🙂
Chuckle @ TR, … I must admit we found a good tiler … we recently ripped up the carpet in the lounge and dining room and laid porcelain (very shiny but not slippery when wet!!) … the guy was born in Italy and (having laid tiles) I was a mazed at how he could virtually drop 600 mm tiles into place with a 2mm gap …
As for plumbers they really are a joke … the odd thing is that I wouldn’t have a clue about cars these days … (I did leave the industry/trade in ’79!) Luckily my son followed in my footsteps … and is the Ops Manager for a very well know organisation …
No one is interested egg. How about just fucking off somewhere else for a while.
Whoooo … another sin binning? I do hope I wasn’t the ’cause … chuckle … “nicest thing you’ve said … ” egg, just didn’t get the subtlety of the comment at the time … sreb, did … 😉
Yep nobody is interested in Egg…. Egg is just a cunt ..no self discipline. She is a disrespectful attention whore
I am interested in Lambies makeover
RP …
I may be wrong … (yep, I have been on occasion) but I reckon Lambie may turn out to be a very good Senator before her six year tenure is up … she strikes me as a quick learner … AND she has principles (so far) …
Hanson has no chance of ever making it (she is only out for the money) … but Lambie is showing some (slow step) possibilities …
And I might say, as did, Senator Xylophone, and I suspect she just might take more notice of intelligence (Mr X) than money (Mr P) …
Amusing that the Liberal Party is encouraging Ms Lambie to stick with PUP – because they only have to deal with a Dickwit Diktator® … rather than a mini coalition of indies …
Go Clivey! PLEASE!
And BTW … watch Clivey, implode as his “plan” to control his business interests via PUP crumble … all his BS about the Australian people was BS!
The Brick really IS a brick BTW … he’ll be next …
yep, I have been on occasion
You gotta link for that!
Quentin Dempster’s ABC rally speech
http://www.alliance.org.au/quentin-dempster-s-abc-rally-speech
…The noted casuist Malcolm Turnbull has said the incoming prime minister’s pre-election statement that there would be no cuts to ABC or SBS has to be taken in the context of his and Joe Hockey’s prior warning about efficiency at the broadcasters. Tony Abbott said unequivocally and unconditionally: “no cuts to the ABC or SBS”.
A casuist is a person, especially a theologian, who attempts to resolve moral dilemmas by careful distinction but ultimately false reasoning.
In the Australian vernacular that means: Bullshit. Malcolm Turnbull is a bullshit artist.
I remember him once promising never to tell a lie to the Australian people.
Let me recalibrate this .. Malcolm Turnbull is a bullshit artist … who has now compounded Tony Abbott’s lie…
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-23/scrap-all-regulations-on-small-businesses-rinehart-urges/5912100
HEAT? 28 degrees? … are you unwell?
mad dogs and
englishscotsmen 🙂words simply fail
Malcolm Turnbull is a bullshit artist.
So, we have talcum who just bullshitted, this hot on hte heels of bishop, who has just bullshitted while launching an attack on our biggest ally, and yabot, who is perpetual bullshit artist
Then there’s pyne, hunt, morrison ……..
what a fucken line up of morally bankrupt slimey snake oil salemen (and women, I didn’t forget pyne 😉 )
The pyne petition
Hypocritical scumbaggery noted by commenters.
https://www.change.org/p/chairman-james-spigelman-ac-qc-and-the-board-of-the-australian-broadcasting-corporation-abc-the-abc-must-not-close-its-production-house-in-adelaide
Where do Rupert’s “journos” (with reservations) come from …
Berserk? I know whose fkn berserk … hey, Rupert … 😉
You gotta link for that!
Get fucked! Find it yourself, dick! 🙂 😆
mad dogs and
englishscotsmen …LOL! Deserving of a C&W cellophane wrapped CD!
Classic GOLD!
Find it yourself, dick!
wot, you think I’m one of the
C.oalition
O.f
C.ommon
S.ense
😉
“mad dogs and
englishscotsmen …”Aye that’s all very funny. Have a laff at my expense…
see if I care….
Consider yourselves all banned!!
see if I care….
🙂
Were you at the ABC rally?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-23/medibank-private-sale-reaps-government-more-than-5-6-billion/5912144
”””””””Just because you are a lying sack of shit doesn’t mean that nobody else is able to discuss a matter.””#correct
.
”””””””I’m feeling hamstrung, but if the editor put up a post””’#horse-shit
You always have lame-arsed excuses, (not only here or the coffee-shops) that even have you bounced from clodlingNovas and wattsupwithclaptrap. Not only do the disinterested not give a fcuk about your stupidity, neither do the propagandists!
”””’Thanks to Christopher Pyne, a panicked constituent politician””(#teabag-panic)
”””and disloyal Cabinet minister from South Australia, for highlighting what we have long known. Through successive budget cuts and a management resourcing priority to win the digital race, the ABC IS Sydney-centric. The loss of the ABC’s Adelaide TV production house, the last remaining regional TV producer outside Sydney and Melbourne –
http://www.alliance.org.au/quentin-dempster-s-abc-rally-speech
””””””””””””’
””with the loss of more than 100 jobs – is a cultural and local tragedy.””
#Now that the job-losses are working their way UP the food-chain, we can expect more #journopanic in the next few years, (remember destruction is quicker that construction) and the journopanic will spread beyond the dear old fuddie duddies like dear old Quentin. Watch, as Limited-News hacks panic in their next round of sackings, as it dawns on them, the anti-abc team-cheering they provided, resulted in my sbs increasing its advertising and reducing new-hires at my abc. #donkeysAllRound
by the look of rickys photoshop fingerpainting,
ricky must be on team-dumpty
””””””””The ABC must not close its production house in Adelaide. We, the undersigned, are concerned that ABC in South Australia is the last TV production unit outside of Sydney and Melbourne. The Board must reassure South Australians that the local TV production house of the ABC will remain in South Australia.
https://www.change.org/p/chairman-james-spigelman-ac-qc-and-the-board-of-the-australian-broadcasting-corporation-abc-the-abc-must-not-close-its-production-house-in-adelaide
””””””””””(#started by mr-poodle)
#Looks like mr-poodle has failed his electorate/state regarding my abc sa-tv-local-reportland-etc.
Now it is probably too late, he would have better spent his time on qandaland raising this issue, its a popular national platform don`tcha-know, instead of mincing on behalf of mr-rabbits truck-load of nonsense. What a fcukwit you are mr-poodle, any basic knowledge of demographics would tell you that sa local would go down the crapper well ahead of syd-melb-bris.
Population size=efficiency
(very important when it comes to the `cost-benefit-analysis` teabags love to screech about) #mr-poodle #super-fcukwit
Consider yourselves all banned!!
Can we name the banned ourselves? Will you supply the drums? Who can play bass? And we want a decent sound system this time …
“Can we name the banned ourselves?”
Banned on the Run?
Little River Banned??
What a nice pair, I really hope this prick serves time …
FYI, Yvette D’Ath, took his seat in a by-election … she’s a shiny arse, Labor pollie – doesn’t actually “do” anything but always turns up at “events” … lost her Fed seat last election …
Banned on the Run?
Little River Banned??
Now YOU’RE just being a smart arse!
I thought something like:
Banned of Hope and Glory
or
The Wedding Banned
Something with meaning and thought …
“The committee also found he had not been honest about his role in the Queensland Retail Traders and Shopkeepers Association.”
A UNION!!!!
Wait til YoM cops a wiff of this…!
Comedy Club with Christopher Pyne…
https://twitter.com/GrogsGamut/status/536665621379821568
Rather fingerpaint in photoshop that fingerpaint with my own shit like you teabag….
Feel Privileged only prize fuckwits get their own poster
Love how chrissie whyne brags about his 2,500 “signatures” reb
Is he aware that in reality this means that 2,500 people are actually mocking him.
Or is it a diabolically brilliant way to actually pretend you have 2,500 people supporting you?
“”The ABC will close down it’s Adelaide production studio”””
Suck on that Pyne!
What like this …
It’s hard to find one signature on that petition that isn’t mocking Pyne…
So just how many voters have been switched off by this stupidly, arrogant and ideological government … we must now be back to 1946 … and I thought we would only get to 1950!
Fuck you’re weird
ROFL
Steve McQueen makes a good point, he even says “you’re a turd”. It’s great to see people taking care with their grammar.
Though I thought he was dead.
Though I thought he was dead.
He is … that’s why I thought we’d ask him to be the bass player in our new banned …
“”It’s great to see people taking care with their grammar.””
Isn’t it just. Obviously not PUP supporters…
Although I’m still deliberating over whether “fucktard” is one word or two. Perhaps it should be hyphenated…
“The committee also found he had not been honest about his role in the Queensland Retail Traders and Shopkeepers Association.”
A UNION!!!!
Wait til YoM cops a wiff of this…!
No, no, no, sreb … it’ll all be ignored … this is
a unionan association of traders and shopkeepers (good guys) … as opposed to the workers in such establishments … and of course it’s another LNP pollie playing at Robber Barons again …Nah! ToM, will leave this alone …
Keating said the government was mad not to sign with the China regional infrastructure bank and Andrew Robb agrees with him, as does Hockey, but Bishop stopped it because of pressure from the Obama administration.
Fuck the yanks, we’re moving on.
“So just how many voters have been switched off by this stupidly, arrogant and ideological government”
I have to repeat myself. Most of the problems were created by Rudd/Gillard and the people who voted for them.
Most Labor supporters only care about themselves and what the govt can do for them. A trashed budget does not worry an ALP supporter.
I have to repeat myself.
ROFL
Just because you do, doesn’t mean you have to
#justsayin’ 😉
ao, even fairfax is in on it, mind you, considering the authors ‘pedigree’ …..
They didn’t have a 9-5 mentality. They had a 10-3 mentality. They planned their work day around their afternoon yoga class. They wore thongs and shorts to work, occasionally had a snooze on the couch after lunch and popped out to Paddy’s Market to buy fresh produce for dinner before going home.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/the-abc-has-flab-to-be-cut-20141122-11rtki.html#ixzz3JvlvIjm0
It could explain though yomm has been so quiet here lately, it has similarities with his ramblings
Abbott was nuts to give a commitment about the ABC. The ABC is not a vote changer but political honesty is.
I think that’s right about the 10 to 3 mentality.
I knew someone who worked for the ABC, bright but lazy. The had an outstanding career there.
“Abbott was nuts to give a commitment about the ABC. “
Yep. Apparently Abbotts comment was made on a Friday night on a program nobody watches and had no effect on the election result.
It did not change a single vote before the election but his comment is making a big difference after the election.
Ok. Apologies for the lack of volume of comments, but I’m going on holidays and need to make some money. As well as finishing some stuff that will be invaluable to success for some rich people.
It wasn’t a complaint yomm, trust me 😉
4nil
I also know a few people who worked for aunty, artists who became redundant.
Wonder who has their eye on the SA production house?
Apparently Abbotts comment was made on a Friday night on a program nobody watches and had no effect on the election result.
And that show was? And the total number of viewers was? And the number who voted ALP was? And the number who voted LNP was? The number of people surveyed who watched the program that said it did not influence their vote?
Duh! Apparently … you must live next door to egg and compare
recipesnotes …Noice apology, ToM … well done … you deserve a holiday … 🙂
Apparently Gillard said on the night of the 2010 election that ‘there will be no Carbon Tax under any Government I lead,
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we want a Carbon Price”
😉
“… the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.”
Adolf Hitler
lol
from #teamAustraliar
Adelaide has been singled out for some extreme attention from yabot. Is he really that petty and vindictive?
(Don’t answer, I’m being rhetorical) 😉
Before I start…
Defending the indefensible with that limp dick excuse..?
Fuck you Squeal you magnanimous pustular piece of dick cheese under the festering flange of society ballsack… go blow a dead donkey.
4 of my mates lost their jobs today… All hard working and very dedicated..
My mates program which is unique in the world and running for 13 years was axed. He still has a job but its shaky ground
I applied for a job there beginning of last year and was short listed and interviewd
It was axed today… no consolation
This bloke scribes sense 🙂
http://mewscorpse.com/2014/11/24/today-ideology-has-won-over-the-nations-interest/
Anyways fuck it… i’m off to the studio for a week to record in the country with my babies…
‘Two highly qualified Google engineers who have spent years studying and trying to improve renewable energy technology have stated quite bluntly that renewables will never permit the human race to cut CO2 emissions to the levels demanded by climate activists. Whatever the future holds, it is not a renewables-powered civilisation: such a thing is impossible.
‘Both men are Stanford PhDs, Ross Koningstein having trained in aerospace engineering and David Fork in applied physics. These aren’t guys who fiddle about with websites or data analytics or “technology” of that sort: they are real engineers who understand difficult maths and physics, and top-bracket even among that distinguished company. The duo were employed at Google on the RE<C project, which sought to enhance renewable technology to the point where it could produce energy more cheaply than coal. RE<C was a failure, and Google closed it down after four years.'
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/21/renewable_energy_simply_wont_work_google_renewables_engineers/
Yes, well, what can I say.
“Yes, well, what can I say.”
Nothing, apparently.
” Whatever the future holds, it is not a renewables-powered civilisation: such a thing is impossible.””
Meanwhile…
India is thinking seriously about reinvesting in cold fusion research, as a means to solving the country’s energy needs.
A UNION!!!!
Wait til YoM cops a wiff of this…!
Unions are nice, they’re full of well intentioned, benevolent, self-sacrificing, altruistic noble men and women. They only want what is good for their members.
Bless them.
“… the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.”
Adolf Hitler
Funny you should quote that, egg … have you seen me write that liars, cheats and thieves often accuse others to hide their own actions …
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And a special reply for ToSY …
http://www.rinkworks.com/said/predictions.shtml
http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/famous-predictions-that-were-spectacularly-wrong/story-fn6vihic-1226889769437
I have to laugh because one of the little sayings we tell our kids/grandkids all their lives is …
“There is always a way”
You’d be amazed at what and how people overcome problems with that little bit of positive thinking reinforced …
In some of my training sessions managers have asked to leave a practical exercise when they’ve suddenly brainstormed a solution …
Of course we can power the world with renewables … solar, wind, tides, thorium, hydro and we have only just started working with gravity and friction and wet waste/sewerage … what we are missing is a really good way of storing potential energy … and that WILL be found … maybe one of my grandkids!
‘have you seen me write that liars, cheats and thieves often accuse others to hide their own actions … ‘
No, can’t say that I noticed.
“………..have you seen me write that liars, cheats and thieves often accuse others to hide their own actions … “”
You mean like Robber Barons …………………..ay Mr Pirate ?
You mean like Robber Barons … ay Mr Pirate
Exactly …
Here’s the deal yer Wally … find me a retail Blu Ray version of Game of Thrones Season 4 within five days (COB this Sunday) and I’ll pay you the price you find …
If you can’t … then you stop accusing me of being a pirate …
Remember Australia’s Region Code is B (A is available but we don’t live in the USofA)
(NOte: Regions are another method that Robber Barons control the markets
No pre-orders … I need to actually buy one immediately after you find it …
Then we’ll look at you actually doing something productive …. or creative … where’s your poem BTW?
“”Then we’ll look at you actually doing something productive …””
Speaking of which, how’s egg’s blog coming along……??
Two highly qualified Google engineers who have spent years studying and trying to improve renewable energy technology have stated quite bluntly that renewables will never permit the human race to cut CO2 emissions to the levels demanded by climate activists. Whatever the future holds, it is not a renewables-powered civilisation: such a thing is impossible.
Wow, what a load of twaddle, because that is NOT what the two men said.
Trying to combat climate change exclusively with today’s renewable energy technologies simply won’t work; we need a fundamentally different approach.
But, that isn’t the end of the misrepresentation in that article. They’ve done a bolt when dolt got all excited when Flanery admitted the absolute truth that stopping CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere won’t stop global warming, because we have already pumped way too much into the atmosphere. The most we can do is mitigate it
His climate models showed that exceeding 350 parts per million CO2 in the atmosphere would likely have catastrophic effects. We’ve already blown past that limit. Right now, environmental monitoring shows concentrations around 400 ppm. That’s particularly problematic because CO2 remains in the atmosphere for more than a century; even if we shut down every fossil-fueled power plant today, existing CO2 will continue to warm the planet.
http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/renewables/what-it-would-really-take-to-reverse-climate-change
What the fuck is it with denialists sites like theregister that they can’t ever portray this subject without lying about it?
Right now, environmental monitoring shows concentrations around 400 ppm. That’s particularly problematic because CO2 remains in the atmosphere for more than a century; even if we shut down every fossil-fueled power plant today, existing CO2 will continue to warm the planet.
So we may as well simply use nuclear reactors (positioned correctly!!) the half life doesn’t seem to be much different** … 🙂
**sarc
“What the fuck is it with denialists sites like theregister that they can’t ever portray this subject without lying about it?”
It’s no coincidence that the delusional denialists are often from the same camp as the religious “dog will provide” nut jobs…
It just goes with the turf..
It just goes with the turf..
Obviously linked to logical process or belief in fairy-tales …
Wally, must be desperate for a quid … he must be searching the interwebby as I type … 🙂
‘delusional denialists are often from the same camp as the religious “dog will provide” nut jobs…’
That’s a pretty broad brush. There has been much said about the Denialati in recent times, but nothing on them being dog botherers.
By the way, I watched two shows last night, both of which made me think of TB (I know, right?).
One was this one. We have all seen TB rant against this “Giant In The Century”, probably just because he was a torie.
http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/355782723704/churchill-a-giant-in-the-century-ep1
The other was this one …
http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/cilla/ZW0161A002S00
It suddenly dawned on me where TB got his anti-Catholic bigotry.
Chuckle … so far off the mark on both counts …
I have no idea what Cilla Black has to do with my distaste for any organised religion …
And my dislike of Churchill is not based upon his “born to rule” mentality and to be a great warlord like on be of his ancestors … but his military incompetence … in so many ways … that cost Australian, New Zealand and Canadian lives in particular and 100’s of thousands of British troops … the man was a charlatan … based on his birth-right …
‘What the fuck is it with denialists sites like theregister that they can’t ever portray this subject without lying about it?’
That’s why I read more widely.
“There’s nothing we can do to stop it. Scientifically it is sheer absurdity to think we can get a nice climate by turning a CO2 adjustment knob. Many confuse environmental protection with climate protection. it’s impossible to protect the climate, but we can protect the environment and our drinking water. On the debate concerning alternative energies, which is sensible, it is often driven by the irrational climate debate. One has nothing to do with the other.”
– See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2012/05/09/the-belief-that-co2-can-regulate-climate-is-sheer-absurdity-says-prominent-german-meteorologist/#sthash.6Mh8gb1X.dpuf
“but his military incompetence”
And of course you would have done a better job in the same situation?
probably just because he was a torie.
You mean like the way some people dismiss Lenore Taylor just because, to them, she is a lefty, but appear unable to debate the substantive points she makes?
That’s why I read more widely.
You are a total fuckstick who doesn’t know how fucking stupid you look to anyone with basic comprehension abilities. Go fuck off you little troll
“In 1940, Adolf Hitler’s troops were on the way to conquering the whole of Europe. The Wehrmacht invaded first Austria and Czechoslovakia. Then Poland, Norway, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands. Now, they were marching on France.
“Hitler seemed invincible. Only Churchill dared confront him. Only Churchill would stand up to him. As the recently appointed Prime Minister of Great Britain, he had one plan. War, and victory. At any price.”
Gee, Tom R seems a bit tetchy tonight. 😯
Tom R seems a bit tetchy tonight.
Perhaps it was the the salmon moose 🙂
Although, I can understand your hesitancy to link to the article that totally misrepresented the Google engineers tosy, until perhaps you realised that …well, Google 😉
“but appear unable to debate the substantive points she makes?”
Yeah, it wasn’t you I was having that discussion with. Just because you jump in, doesn’t mean I’ll have the same interest in discussing it with you.
I’ve been jousting with toiletboss for years now, and, regardless of our differences of opinion, it’s (almost) always a respectful conversation. Neither of us has seen the need to resort to personal abuse.
Just because you jump in, doesn’t mean I’ll have the same interest in discussing it with you.
maybe take up emailing 😉
Did I personally abuse you? The only one I recall personally abusing is grodo because, let’s face it, someone who gets banned from a site like this surely deserves it.
If grodo stopped blatantly trolling, I might stop abusing it.
“Did I personally abuse you?”
Not for some time, no. You must be mellowing. 😉
You must be mellowing.
Again., I blame the moose
but, if you look back up the thread, you disregarded my comment with this
Taylor’s opinions are as predictable as Tom R’s agreeing with them.
https://theguttertrash.com/2014/11/21/rostrum-utterly-disgusted-edition/#comment-84528
toilet and yourself talked about it later, but does that mean I cannot reply to your throw away line? I pointed out the substantive arguments Lenore Taylor made. You just appear to be unwilling to confront them.
But, you can keep your ‘debating’ between yourself and certain chosen participants, and just dismiss everything else as ‘lefties’
Pretty convincing 😉
TR, I’ve been accused of similar … an open forum is just that, open … it usually gets to “I’m talking to so and so …not you …” when the argument is going against them … 😉
“I pointed out the substantive arguments Lenore Taylor made.”
Did you? I must have skipped over that one. (I don’t read every comment here.) Maybe you can get someone else to play with you. I’m not interested.
Ooh. Look who’s jumped in now.
Open thread or not. I’ll engage with whoever I feel like engaging with.
(That won’t be teabagz, or Ricky, usually, because they don’t do civil discourse.)
(For Certain; mr-rabbit confuses the El-Nino subject with the El-Gordo fraud.)
Maybe you can get someone else to play with you. I’m not interested.
I tried, she wasn’t 😦 😉
I’ll engage with whoever I feel like engaging with.
Wow, the yabot media appearance style is catching on ‘aint it 😆
I miss SB.
””I’ll engage with whoever I feel like engaging with.””
#good for you Tinfoil`osy, lt`s best not upset the belief system huh.
””(That won’t be teabagz, or Ricky, usually, because they don’t do civil discourse.)””
#unless you think you`ve found a `gotcha`, of course 🙂
”I’ll engage with whoever I feel like engaging with.”” #good for you Tinfoil`osy, lt`s best not upset the belief system huh.””(That won’t be teabagz, or Ricky, usually, because they don’t do civil discourse.)”” #unless you think you`ve found a `gotcha`, of course 🙂
”””””Whatever the future holds, it is not a renewables-powered civilisation: such a thing is impossible.”””””’#horse-shit
#try a better site to get ya`info Tinfoil`osy,
(do a little research on `grid-abandonment`)
yomm takes a brief respite from his brief respite to be brief
I’m guessing tosy’s going to be picky about who he discusses Google Engineers being misrepresented by denier websites with as well 😦
”””””Whatever the future holds, it is not a renewables-powered civilisation: such a thing is impossible.”””””’#horse-shit#try a better site to get ya`info Tinfoil`osy, (do a little research on `grid-abandonment`)
That is to say …
”yomm takes a brief respite from his brief respite to be brief
Maybe. The only value of some contributors is to gain satisfaction by being contemptuous to them. This one has earned plenty of contempt.
””””””””I’m guessing tosy’s going to be picky about who he discusses Google Engineers being misrepresented by denier websites with as well”””””””
#don`t be too hard on Tinfoil`osy, l think he does try, in his own way while battling indoctrination, which is still much better than dumpty, kneel and yomm, that regurgitate the same small repetoire
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@reb, glad you posted the comments from mr-poodles `petition`, which nobody seems to be falling for,
l also suspect first-moondog was sniffin around here last night, and picked-up on my comments about `cost-benefit-analysis` will nearly always result that bumpkin-teabags will usually be shafted in `cost-cutting` exercises,
with the state election coming soon, that reminds me, don`t forget to vote bumpkins, Vote-National_!!! 🙂
””””””””I’m guessing tosy’s going to be picky about who he discusses Google Engineers being misrepresented by denier websites with as well”””””””#don`t be too hard on Tinfoil`osy, l think he does try, in his own way while battling indoctrination, which is still much better than dumpty, kneel and yomm, that regurgitate the same small repetoire
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@reb, glad you posted the comments from mr-poodles `petition`, which nobody seems to be falling for,
l also suspect first-moondog was sniffin around here last night, and picked-up on my comments about `cost-benefit-analysis` will nearly always result that bumpkin-teabags will usually be shafted in `cost-cutting` exercises,
with the state election coming soon, that reminds me, don`t forget to vote bumpkins, Vote-National_!!!
Okay, l`ll admit it,
you`re an arse-hole yomm
‘Australia has taken its engineers, its builders, its IT professionals and its healthcare workers. Now New Zealand wants them back.
‘In fact, so severe has the brain drain been in recent years, that the New Zealand government is recruiting Australians to fill job market shortages that, if left unattended, could hold back the country’s growth.’
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/new-zealand-wants-to-reverse-brain-drain-with-jobs-pitch-to-australian-professionals-20141125-11sv8c.html#ixzz3K1MajkQT
I see the oz has done what only a totally blinkered, partisan totally biased “news” organisation can do.
Placed the blame for the loss of regional ABC centres squarely with ABC management.
How unsurprisement 😯
How fucken ridiculous.
Of course those that don’t talk to anyone will claim it is their ‘alienable right” to bullshit so blatantly to their readers.
How fucken ridiculous.
Hard to dispute, if you were to try
Abbott lied about cuts to the ABC, SBS and everything else because he would have been unelectable had he campaigned on his true agenda. To pretend otherwise is as disingenuous as the prime minister himself. Save the ABC.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/24/abc-cuts-had-abbott-been-honest-about-his-true-agenda-he-would-have-been-unelectable
Really, after making such a huge issue of it with the last Government who didn’t even lie to electorate, you would have to be supremely stupid, or supremely confident in the media’s ability to cover yor arse to even try on what the libs are doing now with their massive lies.
I don’t think they banked on the Guardian or fairfax to break away from ltdnews lead so much.
God pyne is a fucking ridiculous twerp
And for conspiracy theorists, is scott and yabot working in cohesion here?
When an ABC manager yesterday told staff that those made redundant in the current down-sizing might be able to produce content on a freelance one-off program commissioning basis in future, the cat was out of the bag.
A commissioning model for content where nervous managers under pressure from vested corporate and political interests can pull the plug by de-commissioning the creator, is an attack on editorial independence.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/political-bastardry-and-nincompoops-consign-abc-to-churnalism-20141124-11svir.html
Personally, it all seems too perfectly coincidental to me.
Well, I’m not at all bothered by cuts to the ABC, all the flapping around is purely self interest.
The only concern is the stupid dishonesty by Abbott.
em, Open thread or not. I’ll engage with whoever I feel like engaging with.
So does everyone else, ToSY, I think that’s the point … you do tend to state the bleedin’ obvious …
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How was the holiday, ToM?
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Personally, it all seems too perfectly coincidental to me.
My thoughts too, TR … and I am a firm believer in the principle that there ARE no coincidences in business …
Nicely planned for just before Christmas too … as usual … and people want get rid of long service leave, over-time rates, public holidays, weekends, sick pay, super, redundancy and especially UNIONS! BOO! All the things that help to maintain a family in trouble when a breadwinner has to wait until February just to see if there ARE any jobs … let alone apply for them …
And this business of “freelancing” makes me laugh (ironically) … I had more than a couple of colleagues (or their wives) say, “if he loses his job he’ll just become a consultant like you” …
y’know … today I are unemployed … tomorrow I are a consultant … not as easy as some think – especially the senior managers who I wouldn’t give a job to …
The only concern is the stupid dishonesty by Abbott.
That won’t end … as long as Rupert is pulling the strings …
Noel Pearson thinks Rupert is alright and his news is not biased … I agree with one of the comments “Pearson must be reading a different version of The Australian to me”
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And I am really getting teed off with Noddy Newman’s lot – advertising way at how good they are (and lying) using taxpayers money … the election is early next year … and its so bloody blatant … and as far as I am aware in breach of the election laws anyway …
Well, I’m not at all bothered by cuts to the ABC,
Of course not. Ignorance is bliss to some
there ARE no coincidences in business …
nope. What was scott’s previous occupation again?…
How was the holiday, ToM?
I’m off for 10 days of surf this afternoon! That’s a practice session for summer on the Victorian coast. All I have to do is get a report finalised by 11am!
All I have to do is get a report finalised by 11am!
I can just see it now
ctrl+C, ctrl+V
DONE!
Now to bag some lazy ABC bludgers!
😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
“”ctrl+C, ctrl+V
DONE! “”
Which reminds me. Whatever happened to that fucking hypocondriac moronic scumbag and fucktard Miglo ?
wow, wally cums in from his taxpayer funded holidays with a typical hissy
AIMN
Get yerself over there 😉
“”wally cums in from his taxpayer funded holidays””
Nah………..too busy for that Tommy Boy.
But by seher coincidence I’ll be down at the ABC Ultimo sub branch for a meeting today. Sitting in for a friend stuck in the UK.
No doubt it will be truffles, foie gras and Grange on the menu for lunch
Looks like a win for whistle blowers
Does this mean the msm will finally pick up this story though (I doubts it)
“”Get yerself over there “”
What ????????????
Do they need some truth serum ?
“Whatever happened to that fucking hypocondriac moronic scumbag and fucktard Miglo ?”
I don’t know.
I’m still wondering whether “fucktard” is one word or two.
Do they need some truth serum ?
From you ROFL
Maybe they just need a rancid swearing boar to liven things up
(not insinuating anything there obviously) 😉
Maybe they just need a rancid swearing boar to liven things up
Or a bore to bore it up them?
I’m still wondering whether “fucktard” is one word or two.
Doesn’t it depend on if it is being used as a verb or a noun?
Even young Neil is banned at AIMN, its the pits.
I haven’t been anywhere near AIMN or the Café (now boarded up I believe) since Migs decided to “out” a couple of people …
I did let him know I was not happy tho’, both here and privately … once personal standards drop like that they are irrecoverable IMO (demonstrates a type of person) … ie whose next? Me?
Even young Neil is banned at AIMN, its the pits.
And we care how much? 🙄
And we care how much?
Kinda serves you right for reading its drivle TB 😉
I miss Catching Up’s incisive political analysis and astute economic commentary…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-24/bartlett-take-your-convictions-to-a-double-dissolution/5913862
…A Senate deadlock-breaking mechanism is readily available, and if Tony Abbott doesn’t use it, we’re entitled to believe his exhortations about a budget emergency are hollow, writes Andrew Bartlett…
Our ABC. Not Yours, Rupert:
http://scott-ludlam.greensmps.org.au/content/speeches-parliament/our-abc-not-yours-rupert
…Efficiency appears to have a curious meaning to this government. Where is the efficiency in funding for absurd urban freeway projects that have no cost-benefit analysis, no business case and no environmental impact assessment? What is efficient about handing 920 million bucks to the Roe Highway for a project that will never go ahead? What is efficient, exactly, about purchasing $24 billion worth of fighter aircraft that cannot take off because they catch fire? There is not a lot of efficiency there. The ABC and SBS, on the other hand, will be subject to ‘efficiency’, in pursuit of the ends identified by the IPA…
A great read….
“”Under Tony Abbott we are going nowhere, with the nowhere man””
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/under-tony-abbott-we-are-going-nowhere-with-the-nowhere-man-20141124-11sh8t.html
“Whose next?”
I think you mean “who’s”
I’m off!!
Efficiency appears to have a curious meaning to this government.
As Something Wonky pointed out in their latest podcast, the savings from the ABC could be made by getting rid of pushing preachers into schools at the publics expense.
Priorities.
And this grubmints priorities are very obviously indoctrination over education
I’m off!!,
fer real this time?
Well that show exceptional taste…an incipient inane insipid bore who even repeats himself by repeating himself “I know I keep repeating myself…”
Nil is to discourse what drying paint is to entertainment
Like Egg brings nothing to the table but a derailing whine
‘derailing whine’
Funny bugger.
Abbott: I was charged with indecent assault:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/17/1089694611809.html
Catching Up was insightful – who can forget – “T6ony Asbb0tt5 doesn[ t kn02w an7ything abou5t 3on0micas”
http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/learner-drivers-should-take-motorcycle-lessons-cory-bernardi/story-fnjwucvh-1227133922794
Two good reasons NOT to ride motorcycles …
Cory Bernardi and another twit … Shaun Lennard …
CB:
SL:
oh, and three reasons … I’ve recently been to SE Asia …
Should we all learn to drive trucks and buses too – just to get their perspective?
Unfknbelievable …
I think you mean “who’s”
I’m off!!
Be careful, ToM … it’s a two way street … 😈
Like Egg brings nothing to the table but a derailing whine
Or “wine” ? y’know, table, drinks …
I know … yer just worried that the Grammar Police are out and about just lately …
Well Craig Thomson has admitted he lied and he gave the reason why.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/11/25/embarrassed-ex-mp-thomson-lied-barrister
Former MP Craig Thomson lied about using a union credit card to pay for prostitutes because he was ashamed, his barrister says……………..Mr James said Thomson lied in a media interview in 2012 out of embarrassment, not because he believed he’d committed a crime.
So now … MediBank Private is about making money for 400,000 shareholders … not concentrating on assisting policy-holders when they are sick …
The Robber Barons at work …
Meanwhile in Ferguson USA, there is a massive showdown between police and protesters over the police shooting of teenager Michael Brown….
Noddy Newman & The Nitwits burning taxpayers money …
Ferguson reminds me of Palm Island a few years ago …
taxpayer’s …
It’s actually taxpayers’
#justsayin’
Bugger YOU’RE right!
Here’s a tale from bonnie Scotland on how to do business properly and get world wide marketing … and IT’S Tesco of all much maligned companies …
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/tesco-responds-to-students-customer-complaint-with-a-poem/story-fneuz8zj-1227134497310
This is how PM Abbott behaved
I guess, shit happens, Tones!
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I just noticed …
“reb of Melbourne”
Shouldn’t that be “sreb of NFA” … 😆
Tacit acceptance of genuine whistleblowing?
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/nov/25/freya-newman-no-conviction-recorded-over-leak-of-frances-abbott-scholarship
Surprisingly teh-drum on my abc is quite good today.(usually its crap) Heather ewart is trouncing a tea-bumpkin quite soundly. Heather pointed out to tea-bumpkin that he was very correct on the importance of my abc-rural which is getting hit by teh-cuts. But how silly it was of teh-Nat`s to have stayed quite and played ball with mr-rabbit in the first place. #tea-bumpkins #vote-national 🙂
On my way home from work this evening I happened to walk past Craig Thomson on Bourke Street. His bloodless carcass is even more insipid and odious in real life than it is on TV.
Don’t know how they got my number, but I just did my first ever Newspoll survey. It was about my voting intentions at the Victorian state election.
””””””Abbott lied about cuts to the ABC, SBS and everything else because he would have been unelectable had he campaigned on his true agenda. To pretend otherwise is as disingenuous as the prime minister himself. Save the ABC.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/24/abc-cuts-had-abbott-been-honest-about-his-true-agenda-he-would-have-been-unelectable
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#Van-Badham sounds like a team-cheerer. Mr-rabbits lot are highly predictable, surprises are for those tucked away snuggly in cocoons of ignorance, or tinfoil cubicles. As l`ve said previously, Mr-rabbit only stands for 3-things, 1-trough-snouting for the rich, 2-austerity for the masses, and 3-surplus fetish. Folks just need to figure-out where a particular topic slots-in. #teabags
It was about my voting intentions at the Victorian state election.
What could one say … so many thoughts flash in disarray!
”””Don’t know how they got my number”””
Strange. l got your `number` ages ago Tinfoil`osy. 🙂
Don’t know how they got my number
Now you know why The Abbott has new terror laws …!
YES! sreb, ToM, ToSY … I meant fkn TERROR laws! Not terrorist laws …
FFS! It’s like working in a fkn Star Chamber!
You’ll ruin my journalistic career … and I know … its happened to a past (passed – chuckle) “acquaintance” …
The fact that I’m personally responsible for ruining Nasking’s journalistic career weighs heavy on my conscience..
Not a day goes by….
But you know what they say:
Heavy hangs the head that wears the crown.
“for ruining Nasking’s journalistic career”
I dunno how youse sleep at night, honestly.
From memory, he’s also a GT bannee.
banee?
(Neither looks right.)
Did Nasking have a blog of his own or was he a freelance citizen journalist?
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http://scott-ludlam.greensmps.org.au/content/speeches-parliament/our-abc-not-yours-rupert
what passes for a policy development process under the Abbott government, which was elected without much of a clue as to what it wanted to create if it did win government. It had a bit of an idea of what it wanted to destroy, but not a great deal about what it wanted to create. It effectively outsourced its policy development process to a rather ambiguous organisation known as the Institute of Public Affairs.
The IPA published a hit list of 75 policy recommendations, followed by another 25 a short while later. Three of them are relevant to people who consider themselves friends of the SBS and friends of the ABC: item No. 47: ‘Cease funding the Australia Network’-silence Australia’s voice in the Asia-Pacific region, our diplomatic voice, the public broadcasting arm of the ABC that reaches deep into China, Japan and other countries in South-East Asia; item 50: ‘Break up the ABC and put out to tender each individual function’; and item 51: ‘Privatise SBS’.
Having outsourced policy to the Institute of Public Affairs, and being reasonably awake to the demands of the Murdoch press”””””””””””
#This is largely correct, and the bumpkins will keep voting for the Nats, even tho they have largely worked against the average bumpkin on the land, or small town. They have been sold-out by the Nats, that went along with mr-rabbits ipa instructed fetishes. The bumpkins and Teabags have been deftly out-manouvered by my abc management, who have used Teabags own `cost-benefit` ideals as a club, to beat the Teabags about the head with. lf the slashing to my abc/sbs goes thru, l suspect it will make `one-term-tony` become reality, not anything teabag-lite or shortmen does. l also won`t be surprised if mr-rabbit does a u-turn on this either, particularly if it looks like `too-many` Nats seats go down the gurgler.
“I’ve been jousting with toiletboss for years now, and, regardless of our differences of opinion, it’s (almost) always a respectful conversation. Neither of us has seen the need to resort to personal abuse.”
Tremendous quote!
More than likely, I’ve come across as disrespectful to you (it’s a character flaw of mine when my [what I consider to be] amusing sneer misses its target) on occasion; but ‘offence’ is in the heart of the offended (most commonly). So, now I wonder, on the odd occasion if I’d taken offence were you being disrespectful? (haha)
But seriously, I do enjoy the stimulating idea examinations. And yes, it’s rewarding & effortless with a prescient civil discourse & no need to (generally) be concerned about causing offence. A always, I’d maintain that, in real life, we have far more things in common than genuine differentiations. The points of contention are often interesting & worth exploring; even to challenge or reaffirm my own opinion.
I save my Patented 100% (mostly) Original Pure Personal Abuse exclusively for those who beg it. If they tempt it, they’ve probably asked for it. It can be quite creative but it’s not usually mistaken for non-hostile (nor should it be). I also perpetuate grudges of epic proportions; those who suffer them, know them.
I will go back & read the article. Honestly, I don’t get authorphiliac about such articles. The headline got me clicking & the piece goes some way towards assembling the (blatantly fucking obvious) illogical contortions, denials & honesty distortions of AbbottCorp. That’s why I linked it.
But, I will reread it and compile what I consider to be some of the pertinent parts. Not tonight though, long, hard day at the (non)office.
In fact, I didn’t even know Lenore Taylor penned it. That’s why I responded to your comment about ‘Taylor’ with a snipe at AIMN(which I stand by). I thought you were talking about that Taylor. Funny.
Interestingly, the only place I’ve ever seen Lenore Taylor regularly bemoaned (which is why I do recognise the name) is…you guessed it..Herr Bolt’s Arschylum.
“banee?”
Nah, Nasking’s not banned….
We’d welcome him back with open arms…
Every blog needs its resident nutter.
For the time being we’ll just have to settle for egg.
You’re too kind.
Heavy hangs the head that wears the crown.
LOL!
GOLD! Literally … and its such a BIG fkn crown … LOL!
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banee?
(Neither looks right.)
Banshee … anyway at this stage I don’t think anyone cares …
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Did Nasking have a blog of his own or was he a freelance citizen journalist?
CHORTLE! If you are referring to Farnham Bear … yes … everyone else’s …
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From memory the rockshifter and Iaaaan all are banned (sin binned is not the same, egg!) … (the first I am grateful to sreb for … not too grateful … it was a matter of honour I believe … nay safety for my kin …)
Farnham Bear just went off the rails if you challenged him … I think medication … but I’m no quack … 😈
Long time a go … and in this household rarely mentioned …
Actually sreb, Kneel is more like FB than egg! Maybe personal opinion, hey …
So was the Ferguson decision right?
Excuse me, I’m in the room.
Van-Badham sounds like a team-cheerer.
You sound like a team cheerer, for the team of “MEMEME”.
What the fuck is it with throw away “cheerleader … dismissing!” lately to skirt around issues.
So, do you think yabot would have won the election if they actually put forward what they were most obviously planning?
So was the Ferguson decision right?
Obviously, they decided it 🙂
“But, I will reread it and compile what I consider to be some of the pertinent parts. Not tonight though, long, hard day at the (non)office.”
Don’t bother yourself too much. I’ve ‘moved on’.
Don’t bother yourself too much. I’ve ‘moved on’.
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yabot wishes we’d all just move on too 😉
“Obviously, they decided it ”
The white peoples decided there was nothing to see here so just move on…
Meanwhile if a black female cop had shot a good white upstanding frat boy would the outcome have been any different …?
Nah, of course not….
Andrew Bolt dances in the flames…
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/the_new_racism_it_does_not_have_a_white_face/
“Don’t bother yourself too much.’
I’ll do it anyway. I’ll take your silence for acquiescence.
Nah, of course not….
Is that because she would have been lynched already?
Andrew Bolt dances in the flames…
Lovely imagery. And this should be getting a lot of feedback I’m sure
“a black community that cannot accept a jury verdict that a white man might be innocent: ”
I mean, it’s not like they can pull the strings of a grubmint to change the law like a certain white man did when he doesn’t accept a decision, right 😉
Potential for things to get reeeeally out of hand in the US. Could be nasty.
Luckily, everyone has a firearm or ten to keep them ‘safe’. 🙄
Just another reason most of us are utterly disgusted
I’ll do it anyway.
fyi unsoiled one, my contribution (excuse the italics, twas after a few 😉 )
https://theguttertrash.com/2014/11/21/rostrum-utterly-disgusted-edition/#comment-84576
I better read the rest of this thread!
But, gotta go now.
I better read the rest of this thread!
Guess we’ll see ya in the new year then 😉
Nah, of course not….
Me too, sunshine … methinks, too many pointy hats still in the GRAND jury …
Luckily, everyone has a firearm or ten to keep them ‘safe’.
C’mon, Toillette, (recognise yer absence) let’s not be coy …. I bet there is at least one bang bang in your home … ?
””””What the fuck is it with throw away “cheerleader … dismissing!” lately to skirt around issues.””””
#Well TomR, l said more then merely `team-cheerer` in that comment,
AND the next comment, which is on the SAME topic, which has a pretty big explainer in it
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”””So, do you think yabot would have won the election if they actually put forward what they were most obviously planning?”””
Probably. Team-cheerers are over-looking all the help team-kevin07-joolya-kevin07-shortmen gave to mr-rabbits promotion to chief sewer-rat.
I get the feeling the grubmints trying to outdo each other in the asshole stakes
Defence Minister David Johnston says he wouldn’t trust the government’s own shipbuilding firm to “build a canoe”, seriously denting hopes the next fleet of submarines will be made locally.
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/defence-minister-doesnt-trust-australian-shipbuilder-to-make-a-canoe-20141125-11tqv7.html
What a miserable prick. Slagging off Australian workers, instead of working with them.
What a miserable prick. Slagging off Australian workers, instead of working with them.
Or FOR US! ToM … in any other environment he would be sacked!
Probably.
Not sure how you come to that conclusion.
Every time Labor (Gillard in particular) got a roll on, yabot and his team caught up with “metoo”
NBN, Gonski, PPL, ABC, Superannuation, Medicare Locals
MeToo all the time, and all the time he lied
Sure, Labor was presented as a mess by the media, and rudd didn’t help (but I bet most are reminiscing about the old days when Parliament just got on with it between daily SSO’s from yabot). But yabot has shown he lied all the time he was opposition leader. And those promises fed a lot into peoples intentions.
Possibly, perhaps they could have won being truthful, but, if they had, things would have been a lot different.
So, the article raises a very valid point.
Nicely ignored again.
in any other environment he would be sacked!
With this mob, he’s likely to become employment minister 😦
”””You sound like a team cheerer, for the team of “MEMEME”””
then you haven`t been paying attention TomR, if you had, ya`might of noticed l don`t support ANY poor bastard being shafted by EITHER team, just coz you can team-cheer womens pension cuts, off-shore gulags, no-gay marriage under team-joolya and boo-hiss under mr-rabbit for near identical results. l can`t. #crap-is-crap
”””So, the article raises a very valid point.”””
”””Nicely ignored again.”””
#NO to both.
lt may be in the `eye` of the beholder, team-cheerers of both `teams`, tiresomely only want to look at so-called `wins` for their team, and `losses` of opposite team. Most of the unrusted don`t work this way, so is largely pointless.
lf badham was making a `valid-point`, that `valid-point` might include that the `lazy/stupid` journosphere just lost about 400-jobs from its own industry, cheer-led by itself. Another `valid-point` might be that teabumpkins may have lost their `only` local news-source, by their own (stupid) hand. Or another `valid-point` might be the shock and awe hitting my abc staff, as they realize their fake-balance practices have shafted them, their soft pre-election mr-rabbit interviews didn`t pay-off, neither did merely following in the Limited-News rut. #got-it
#badham was just churn for team-cheerers that refuse to challenge the narrative
‘might include that the `lazy/stupid` journosphere just lost about 400-jobs’
Surely not the whole 400 were journalists?
(“Surely not the whole 400 were journalists?”
No, inferentially, there were only an 82 extra Santa’s Charterparty Clauses with respect to the ABC’s outrageous ecoactivisms contra an apolitical-bargain’s open-for-business’s one-stop-shop’s Reef Water Quality Protection Plan, apparently: Great Barrier Reef threatened by Queensland plan to let miners take billions of litres of groundwater, says Marine Park Authority)
(Will the fresh coat of cia funded green paint on the Luvvy-truck be dry in time to steam-roll over current reef-vandal in chief.? Or will the baby fish have to take action on their own after reading the fine-print of their Water-Quality plan.?)
(“… what we are missing is a really good way of storing potential energy …”
Conversely, TB, and yet perhaps moving in similar thought-circles, harnessing natural potential energy gradients, ie plopping, or not, new-old old-new found batteries into the ghettoblaster, no matter the underlying/overlying technology(ies), might not be in any way synonymous with ‘producing’ any (and/or any new) energy at all.
To make that par-observation, though, might be to query, also, why the attention economy seemingly has identified the best and brightest of the best and brightest, taken that Simonian ultraresource, and then mindfully forgotten its key recommendation, fundamentally R&D, in a retrograde rush to return to a variant of the same ol’, same ol’.
In the Australian context, for instance, then, and at the very, very least, that might mean significantly augmenting, not insignificantly undermining ‘science, research and innovation‘.)
(“…remember destruction is quicker tha[n] construction…”
I must admit, I almost didn’t notice that ‘Efficiency Dividend’ Blib was all there, at the ABC rally; explaining how demolition work is relatively quick and cheap, and how (re)building is time-consuming and expensive; done bipartisan-neoliberal Right, with long-term ‘plans’ enacted for this and that, wrecking, in small or in large increments, from the inside-out could destroy decades’ worth of accrued institutional capacity and deep-knowledge while crippling (re)constructive activity for decades more; probably a win-win in unfraudulent, flat(tened(-and-scorched)earth books.
“Or will the baby fish have to take action on their own after reading the fine-print of their Water-Quality plan.?”
“Ask a fish head, Anything you want to, They won’t answer, They can’t talk”.)
‘and then mindfully forgotten its key recommendation, fundamentally R&D’
Doubtful, its more likely that they will do a reorientation exercise away from environment to medicine. But putting all their eggs in one medical basket, in the hope of a brilliant and world shattering breakthrough, is ill conceived.
The danger of ignoring the seriousness of climate change may initially cost the Coalition some votes, but in the longer run all will be well. Apparently 69% of Channel Nine watchers don’t think humans are causing global warming.
egg, I followed the link from your latest Degas picture, and ended up on Cathy Marie Buchanan’s facebook page, reading excerpts from her book. She writes well.
https://www.facebook.com/cathymariebuchanan/app_319631768109792
Always nice to richly imagine the bigger picture, makes everything come alive.
‘might include that the `lazy/stupid` journosphere just lost about 400-jobs’
You mean “positions””.
I doubt they actually had jobs
I was at ABC Ultimo yesterday. I have never seen so many confused looking people aimlessly wandering around since last year’s Christmas Eve at a Westfield
“” It was about my voting intentions at the Victorian state election “”
Do tell………………………………………..LOL
I have never seen so many confused looking people aimlessly wandering around since last year’s Christmas Eve at a Westfield
Or the last CPA* Seminar?
“Or the last CPA* Seminar?”
The Communist Party of Australia is now defunct, its former members are now bleating progressives and/or Greens.
This article by Tim Dunlop is a good commentary on the parlous state of Australian politics.
It is a good read, an honest assessment, but Abbott is confident the infrastructure revolution will save save his neck.
Is a three tier democracy necessary?
“Abbott is confident the infrastructure revolution will save save his neck.”
In case you hadn’t noticed Abbott is completely clueless.
“”In case you hadn’t noticed Abbott is completely clueless.””
🙂
‘In case you hadn’t noticed Abbott is completely clueless.’
Admittedly he does give that appearance, but there is much going on behind the scenes which he cannot yet make public.
such as…………..?
“there is much going on behind the scenes which he cannot yet make public.”
On the basis of their ineptitude since taking office Liberals everywhere should be very afraid then.
“………but there is much going on behind the scenes which he cannot yet make public.””
What…………..he’s found MH370 again ??????????????????
If there was a federal ICAC we would be able to get to the bottom of the Frances Abbott scholarship scandal.
I suspect Hockey is gearing up to roll Abbott!
That’s about as balanced Tim Dunlop has ever been: ‘they’re shit, because they’re all shit.’
However, I hope he’s wrong on this point: “[M]uch of the serious work of economic management now happens at the pan-national level via organisations like the G20 or the European Union. So-called free-trade agreements and other international contracts zap control from sovereign nations and hand it to these rootless instrumentalities, further undermining the role of parties and the governments they form.”
Government should be done at the closest possible level to the people it ‘serves’. Not the one furthest away.
“”I suspect Hockey is gearing up to roll Abbott!””
He’ll have to push Talcum out of the way first!
Remember Hockey thought he was on to a sure thing the last time there was a spill and Talcum proved more popular… Heck Hockey even consulted “”the Oracle!””
‘such as…………..?’
Abbott has to override Bishop and sign up with Beijing’s infrastructure bank.
Talcum will be a lot more calculating whereas the delusional Hockey probably believes he is on a roll and should strike while the iron is hot!!
Turnbull has ZERO support in the party room.
Abbott needs to get rid of the deadwood like his Defence Minister and perceived deadwood like Andrews, Abetz and get a few more women into the Cabinet like Kelly O’Dwyer and probably Michaela Cash and move Julie Bishop to AG
“”and move Julie Bishop to AG”””
I though you’d be wanting him to move her to the Northern beaches!
Michaela Cash is entertaining in a Looney-Tunes kind of way:
“”Michaela Cash is entertaining in a Looney-Tunes kind of way:””
I didn’t say give her anything important.
Malcolm as Treasurer ?????????????????????????????
It wont happen unfortunately but he could argue a case better than Sloppy Joe
Sack Hunt.
Government should be done at the closest possible level to the people it ‘serves’. Not the one furthest away.
Perhaps you are beginning to understand people’s opposition to these “free trade” agreements and the often attached clauses that some are so worried about.
That’s IF we even have any agreements?
Korea FTA deadline looms
By James Nason, 14 November 2014
The next six weeks is shaping as a critical period for Australia’s beef export trade to South Korea as it awaits formal ratification of a Free Trade Agreement with the market.
http://www.beefcentral.com/news/koreat-fta-deadline-looms/
I was under the impression, as I’m sure many were, that this was signed and sealed, like the China fta that is also not signed and sealed. One wonders about the Japanese one?
“Perhaps you are beginning to understand people’s opposition to these “free trade” agreements”
I’m pro-trade. Have a look at the cars people drive, the TVs they watch, the computer you’re looking at right now. It is international trade that gives us our affluent lifestyle. The iron ore we ship out, allows us to import all this stuff.
We have delegated foreign affairs and trade to the federal government. Those things can’t be done at a local level (that’s why I said at the closest possible level).
Or the last CPA* Seminar?”
The Communist Party of Australia is now defunct, its former members are now bleating progressives and/or Greens.
Noice try … THE Charted Practicing Accountants …
I suspect Hockey is gearing up to roll Abbott!
Back to square -1 t5hen … LOL!
And Turnbull is now tainted … maybe Barnaby? They could invite Clivey to rejoin the LNP?
Re Turnbull …
It wont happen unfortunately but he could argue a case better than Sloppy Joe
Yeah? Like he convinced everyone that the “new” NBN is so much better if we leave some rotting copper in the ground … only an ignoramus would believe that drivel …
I know call a DD and sack all of ’em …
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The iron ore we ship out, allows us to import all this stuff. Used to ship out …
We have delegated foreign affairs and trade to the federal government
Nup. They have been given the task, by the people, and so far their performance review is not looking good …
The Ferguson debacle is a classic example of the stupidity of identity politics.
One thing is clear: there was never a credible case against the police officer.
There were a couple of discredited witnesses who peddled a story which was manifestly inconsistent with the forensic evidence and with most witness accounts. Nevertheless they were feted by the media who, if they had done their job properly would, early in the piece, reported that it was highly likely that there was no case to answer. Instead they talked up the potential for social unrest, thus having more news to report. Vile leftist publications like NYT and Slate helpfully published the cop’s home address and a picture of his house.
Obama adviser, Al Sharpton has a lot to answer for. This vile race-baiting victim pimp has made millions as a shakedown merchant and failed to pay his taxes on his ill-gotten gains. Crump, the lawyer to the dead man’s family (he also cashed in the Trayvon Martin case) was smelling money and talking up the outrage.
For the last two months radicals have been fomenting riots notwithstanding that they were ignorant of the relevant facts, or worse. The only thing that mattered to them was pushing their agendas.
The dead man’s stepfather screamed “Burn this bitch down” and so Ferguson was burned. Gunshots, arson, arseholes in Guy Fawkes masks looting businesses, mostly minority-owned. Another young black man was shot and killed in the carnage. Cue the outrage about his death – not. This was just another leftist freak show with no interest whatsoever in justice.
Ferguson is all about dividing society into black and white and then deciding guilt or innocence by skin-colour. Welcome to the world of identity politics.
“delegated” vs. “given the task”
If there’s a difference, it’s a pedantic one.
I notice nobody has commented on the fact that Craig Thomson has admitted to lying. This is the person that TomR, TB, Reb and Gillard had complete confidence in.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/thomson-lawyer-says-he-lied-over-using-union-money-for-prostitutes/story-e6frg6n6-1227134199285
“A BARRISTER representing Craig Thomson has told a judge that the former Labor MP lied about using union money to pay for prostitutes because he was “under attack” for moral turpitude. ”
Thomson also lied to Parliament.
‘I notice nobody has commented on the fact that Craig Thomson has admitted to lying.’
Its not newsworthy, most of the electorate knew he was lying.
If there’s a difference, it’s a pedantic one.
True, ToSY … I did think about that at the time but thought ah, fk, it’ll give him something to complain about … what about the rest of the sentence?
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To The Editor
Dear Sir,
I have just come back from the cinema … can I put up a movie review here?
OR … just a suggestion, we have a thread devoted to artistic reviews?
This is the person that TomR, TB, Reb and Gillard had complete confidence in.
You got that one wrong … very wrong … for myself I always have (and always will) let the courts decide … I wasn’t there … and I only argued against the lynch mob mentality …
Get yer facts right before accusing people …
This was just another leftist freak show with no interest whatsoever in justice.
Oh, the irony …
For the last two months radicals have been fomenting riots notwithstanding that they were ignorant of the relevant facts, or worse. The only thing that mattered to them was pushing their agendas.
Most of what you say I agree with … but not being there nor hearing the testimony given to the Grand Jury … I’ll take their decision …
“most of the electorate knew he was lying.”
AMIN, TomR, ALP, TB, and some other leftie deadbeat who names escapes me backed up Thomson from the beginning to the end.
If Gillard supported Thomson that is all the evidence that i need that Thomson was guilty.
I see nil is rewriting history.
My complaint was the assumption of guilt. Everyone deserves assumptions of innocence. I notice Kathy Jackson, who instigated this whole mess, had that assumption. Thomson never had it.
I notice yabot has the assumption of innocence even after it is discovered his daughter received a dodgy free education from a school that got preferential treatment from her father.
I also note that ltdnews is rewriting history, still, in reporting what thom(p)son has said (or not)
(Last time I checked, Neil, the matter was still sub judice; as indicated by all the incidental guff about County Court, judges and lawyers, legal argument, lodged appeal being heard, etcetera; what comment do you want people to make about an ongoing legal case, where simple reporting of the facts of that very case is about all the comment which people can lawfully make?
Oh, you’ve moved on to making prejudicial statements about guilt and innocence. Good for you, and for continuing to ignore the ‘due process’ contentions of the sundry named and shamed.)
AMIN, TomR, ALP, TB, and some other leftie deadbeat who names escapes me backed up Thomson from the beginning to the end.
Did you read my comment from JANUARY 2013?
Try this one from APRIL 2012
In any quote of my comments on Thomson you will find that I only argued due process of the law … neither his guilt nor his innocence …
In fact you are simply perpetrating the same lynch mob mentality … and getting it very badly wrong …
… and for continuing to ignore the ‘due process’ contentions of the sundry named and shamed
Certainly named but certainly not shamed for all the reasons you provide, M!
Another apology due … I’m still waiting for the other two …
So, how does nil feel about perpetuating false statements attributed to Thom(p)son by ltdnews etal?
Is he ready to make an apology yet?
Tooo funny
All the leftoid deadbeats come out and give reasons why they backed a lying piece of shit.
And if Thompson was a Coalition politician the leftoids would have been saying something different.
Once someone is sentenced at Trial the Courts do have a habit of allowing some reasonable discussion sub judice these days because the previous practice for those on the wrong end of the law was for them to lodge an appeal immediately after their sentencing in order to shut the media up about it.
Then quietly withdraw the Appeal weeks or months later once the interest had died down.
That’s how the system now works in practical terms.
I think a reasonable person having a reasonable discussion about Thomson could reasonably conclude that Thomson could be reasonably be described as …………………………….a fucking lying sack of fucking scumbag shit.
Tooo funny
What, that you won’t apologise for perpetuating ltdnews lies?
“Former MP Craig Thomson lied about using a union credit card to pay for prostitutes because he was ashamed, his barrister says.”
The quotation marks are because I am quoting News Ltd, not because News Ltd are quoting Greg James QC. In fact, James said, or intimated, no such thing whatsoever.
What Greg James was referring to in court is that the prosecution had in their evidence a section entitled ‘Lies’. This contained allegations of lying to the media, including the Laurie Oakes interview.
The point that James was making is that even if there were lies to the media, this could have been done for a number of reasons, including trying to save himself from embarrassment — but they are irrelevant to the case. It was not any form of admission of Thomson was lying, merely pointing out that it is a waste of money and court time to debate the alleged lies, they may as well debate global warming as discuss media coverage of Thomson’s interviews.
The fact, this topic is even spoken about tells us that the prosecution has designed their case for media consumption rather than to seek justice.
https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/will-craig-thomson-be-home-for-christmas,7129
Rarely has anything in this case been “reported” accurately, and it is all laden with either speculation or outright allegations as in this case which are unfounded and untrue. After the 15th Dec, I would hope Thom(p)son remains lawyered up and starts issuing apologies should the case go well for him.
If it doesn’t, whatever punishment that would be coming his way has already been meted out by a media with an agenda to pull down a Government. This explains my position well, so I’ll leave it this to explain, not that you will take any note in your blinkered ignorance.
In a case where you have had senior politicians proclaiming your guilt and a mainstream media baying for your blood, the burden of proof is put firmly on Thomson’s shoulders. It no longer becomes a matter of being proven guilty, with all of the political and media pressure one has to prove their innocence.
And my italics have gone haywire again, and this time without outside influence 😉
.a fucking lying sack of fucking scumbag shit.
For a while there, I thought you were talking about ltdnews 😉
“what about the rest of the sentence?”
Perfect.
We have delegated foreign affairs and trade to the federal government
That’s the point tosy, it is being taken away from control of our Government, and more and more into the back room of some dodgy international court that follows it’s own procedures, not standard practices.
And, seemingly, influenced by those with the deepest pockets (ie USofA)
“If it doesn’t, whatever punishment that would be coming his way has already been meted out by a media with an agenda to pull down a Government. “”
What a load of crap !
If that cunt does not get a custodial sentence it will be union members rioting and rightly so.
I hope the smug prick gets 3 years minimum.
And if he does get off he still has the HoR to contend with
I see TomR is still defending Craig thomson.
Perfect.
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And if he does get off he still has the HoR to contend with
If he were to be called before the Bar after he has been found with nothing to answer (ah, ah the legal system has to do that) … then I’m not sure what they could do?
… is there a previous case of found not guilty at law and then being called to the Bar?
Not sure I would have taken Thomson’s case … were I a lawyer.
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I see TomR is still defending Craig thomson.
Get of yer black charger and use your brains for thinking not yer dick … we have always been discussing process of law … and the assumption of innocence … where you cum from its obviously guilty until proven innocent …
(In fact proving “innocence” is another step beyond being found “not guilty” … mud sticks … as pollies know …
“”…………..mud sticks … as pollies know …””
Yes………Yes…………………I cry myself to sleep every night thinking about the poor treatment of Eddie Obeid and the whole Obeid family.
“I have just come back from the cinema … can I put up a movie review here?”
Of course, or you can email it to me…
I fkn don’t …
On its way, sreb.
use your brains for thinking not yer dick
It was anticipated 😉
not that you will take any note in your blinkered ignorance.
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And I note nil still hasn’t apologised for perpetrating ltdnews false smear either
Apparently 69% of Channel Nine watchers don’t think humans are causing global warming.
Pretty much what I’d expect of ch 9 viewers, they fit the denier demographic.
I actively boycott that channel whenever possible..
“Government should be done at the closest possible level to the people it ‘serves’. Not the one furthest away.”
Indeed.
try and imagine, for just a second, how much of a fuck the Adelaidecentric SA State government doesn’t give about my (numerically voter-lite) region, then extrapolate that into Federal lobbyist-appeasing.
If that cunt does not get a custodial sentence it will be union members rioting and rightly so.
And there should be rioting if kathy jackson doesn’t get a sentence.
‘I actively boycott that channel whenever possible..’
Me too.
“… Abbott is confident the infrastructure revolution will save save his neck.”
Of course it will, Walter Mitty, privy to secrets of the powerful.
Just reading between the lines of the daily papers.
“Did you read my comment from JANUARY 2013?”
Kneel is a monocular partisan arsehat.
I’ve almost given up on him ever even attempting to construct a non-polemic argument.
Blue Energy, simply mix salt and fresh water.
http://www.nvnom.com/news/testing-blue-energy-afsluitdijk/
“Kneel is a monocular partisan arsehat.”
I am anti-ALP/Greens. It would be interesting to see what ALP supporters would be saying if Craig Thomson was a Coalition politician. I suspect that people would not be asking for “due process”
Also Gillard kept supporting this guy long after it was obvious that something was wrong. Gillards judgement was either poor as it usually is or she had an ulterior motive for supporting him.
confirming unequivocally that “Kneel is a monocular partisan arsehat.”
Still obsessing about Thompson’s guilt
I haven’t watched commercial Television for about six years
Wow what a hindsight genius… why do we waste money with courts when we have squeal and his
crystal ballcopy of the telegraph ? Maybe they should have employed him in Murdochs 800 million dollar tax evasion case 🙄Fascist Dictatorship
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/11/24/china_central_television_CCTV_reviled
It has fuck all to do with ‘left’ or ‘right’…it’s about malaise and necessary scrutiny of the string pullers sitting at the apex ‘protecting’ us…
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/11/25/talking-james-risen-pay-price-war-terror-press-freedoms/
We have delegated foreign affairs and trade to the federal government. Those things can’t be done at a local level
Have we? When did we do that & when were we, the people asked about it?
Did the federal govt give itself the role?
Why can’t the business unions do their own trade in their free market? They can manage to take themselves overseas and state their case to foreign traders can’t they? They are globetrotting all the time. Isn’t this still government protection of industry if the govt [both local and federal] are hawking, touting and deciding trade agreements on behalf of the australian people.
How close to the people it serves is a secret trade agreement that has never included us in any of the the discussions? Most times the public are very unhappy with the outcomes of these deals.
Oh silly me, my mistake, you mean the people it serves as big business, not the general public don’t you?