Joe Hockey’s Budget: “A Total Fucking Mess”
It’s been over six months since first time Treasurer Joe Hockey delivered his first ever Federal Budget in Parliament to much fanfare, standing ovations, and mutual back-slapping from his colleagues on LNP benches.
Fast forward six months and the Australian economy is floundering, unemployment is rising, and the Abbott government is less popular than Ebola, if the polls are anything to go by.
The Budget remains hugely unpopular and has been blamed for a collapse in business and consumer confidence, as well as slower than usual retail spending in the lead up to the critical pre-Christmas holiday season.
Joe Hockey and his Liberal Party colleagues point to an inability for the government to “get its message across” hampered by what it says is a “non-compliant media.” Today Tony Abbott called it “bad atmospherics” (whatever that is).
However no amount of media spin or verbal gymnastics in the form of “efficiency dividends“” or “revised implementation arrangements for a budget measure” can disguise the fact that this Budget is a stinker and the Australian people know it.
In the lead up to the last election, Joe Hockey and his counterparts shouted loud from the rooftops that Australia was in the grip of a Budget Emergency that had to be addressed as a matter of urgency.
However rather than reigning in spending, the Abbott Government has increased spending with senior economic forecasters now warning that Abbott Government debt looks set to skyrocket far beyond official Government figures.
Chris Richardson from Deloitte Access Economics, says that Hockey and the Abbott Government are now facing a string of Budget deficits “as far as the eye can see”.
According to Richardson, the Budget risks blowing out to 29.4 billion US dollars – a total of 4.1 billion US dollars more than was predicted by Joe Hockey back in May.
Richardson said that the Budget, which is currently gridlocked in the Senate, is “well and truly toast” and that falling commodity prices, slow wage growth and limited savings measures are to blame.
However the blame also lies purely and squarely at the feet of Joe Hockey and his cronies who arrogantly assumed that their ideologically driven Budget directly targeting those who could least afford it, would cop the brunt of new and increased taxes, cuts to education and welfare and changes to Pensions without batting an eyelid.
Voters sent a strong message to the Federal Government in Victoria over the weekend, and the same message awaits Tony Abbott and his moronic deadbeat thugs at the next Federal Election.
This budget was so bad because so little effort was put into making it any better.
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Cocky Jockey could ask the Reserve Bank to return the $9 billion he gave to them without our permission … not mentioned before the election at all as I recall …
But the banks continue to screw Australians left, right and centre …
That $9 billion is to support the BANKS! Let THEM borrow it at the same rates they charge … let their managers take a hit on their pay …
Repeal laws for Negative Gearing
Remove Family Trusts
Remove ALL post political perqs
And I’ll support any government that does …
WAY OT ….
Just heard the police on TV appealing to the mother (parents) of the baby that was found buried on the beach to give themselves up … they want to help her …
FFS! Last week they charged a mother with attempted murder of another child found (luckily) still alive …
Is it just me that sees the hypocrisy here?
Wonderful understanding of the human state …
Mothers often have mental and physical trauma after the birth of their children … and for many reasons …
Cocky Jockey may need a Bex and a lie down …
ASX down 2%!
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2014/12/1/asx/sharemarket-slumps-2-energy-free-fall?utm_source=exact&utm_medium=email&utm_content=1024320&utm_campaign=pm&modapt=
Renewable energy looks good … OPEC are looking decidedly fkd …
“Virgin spent $200 million more on fuel than it did on staff last year,” said Mr Daghlian.
I didn’t know that.
“”Renewable energy looks good … OPEC are looking decidedly fkd …””
Hold on Mr Pirate Pete
The Oil market and Iron Ore (BHP and Rio) markets are being deliberately oversupplied by the big producers in order to sent the marginal producers broke hence pushing up prices again.
So far the shakeout is working in the Iron Ore market and the Saudis are doing the same with Oil to send a few US of A producers broke.
So don’t ditch the car or go grasping a few more of those silly solar thingies not to mention those huge ventilation fans dotting the landscape.
”””Fast forward six months and the Australian economy is floundering, unemployment is rising, and the Abbott government is less popular than ”’Ebola”””’
#and we just might end-up with `ebola` or similar, as Mr-rabbit loves taking the chainsaw to national health, or flog-off bits for the sugar-hit.
#On the `un/employment-side`, open-slather 457? visas, and encouraging biz to create `junk-jobs` that still leave the worker/consumer relatively `broke`, won`t improve retail out-look or reduce `dole-queues` and will continue to fail australia.
Hold on Mr Pirate Pete
Ah! So you found a BD R4 GoT … where is is it?
So don’t ditch the car or go grasping a few more of those silly solar thingies not to mention those huge ventilation fans dotting the landscape.
Certainly not ditching the until the hydrogen cars hit the market … I’m already enjoying the benefits of solar … and with such a long Australian coastline you may experience the benefits of wind-power energy in your lifetime after the next Federal election …
Hang onto those Moonie oilfield and the LNG shares … they may not last as long as you think … Shiny Arse …
””””’don’t ditch the car or go grasping a few more of those silly solar thingies not to mention those huge ventilation fans dotting the landscape.””””’
#it won`t be the `main-game` in the end blubbers, #bio-fuel will, which is driving the `grid-abandonment` panic behind the scenes at the moment. Sky-skrapperz and westfield type `centres` already have fuel systems installed, and will install bio-digesters to convert rubbish to fuel when the science is perfected.
However the blame also lies purely and squarely at the feet of Joe Hockey and his cronies
Just wondering how it “also” be “purely” ?? 😯
Basically, they are now experiencing the same turmoil in global conditions that is seeing and has seen the bottom drop out of our markets.
The difference is, this time, the msm is actually telling us about them (which is a good thing, albeit a little late)
It has also been vastly exacerbated not only by the libs ineptitude with the budget (such as pushing through all the items that cost the budget, before ensuring that the items they were going to pay for them for were through), but also by the three years of promising a land of milk and honey, and delivering instead more years of wandering in the wilderness.
The difference, as I see it, was that under the previous Gillard Government, we had the land in sight, but now that has disappeared back over the horizon.
Hokey is way out of his depth….
Commodities resource sector are tanking… prediction… Lots of cheap loans for commodities based projects… Iron ore is tanking , Gas and Oil are tanking. Companies like Haliburton are outsourcing gas fracking in glouster. (AGL is lost 50 mil on frackting last year). linked to banks extending credit to resource sector… Big Crash to come… Lots of overvalued stock ready for correction. USA has been printing money…that is always a bad sign… Fractional banking is a boom bust cyclic thing and the cycles are moving closer together…Sorry to be negative….. Palmer and Twiggy will be on the bones of their asses if lending rates go up….
Maybe he borrowed all that money for the reserve because he knew he was gonna tank the economy… just sayin…
“”#it won`t be the `main-game` in the end blubbers, #bio-fuel will,””
Only if you wish to starve 60% of the World’s population
Cheaper Oil, Cheaper Coal, Cheaper Gas just supports the arguments against higher cost renewables.
Besides most OS contracts for our commodities are made in US Dollars. So Uncle Joe and our big commodity producers will benefit greatly from a falling AUD
Albanese lets loose at yabot
“You can’t win the battle of ideas if you have no ideas. You can’t run an economy on three word slogans. You don’t create jobs by saying no to everything. And you don’t inspire people by misleading them.
“Before the election, the Prime Minister promised no cuts to health, education, pensions, the ABC or SBS. He promised no new taxes.
“In government he has cut $80 billion from health and education, slashed funding for the ABC and SBS and created new taxes, whenever people visit a GP or fill up their car at the petrol bowser.
“Rubbing salt into the wounds, he has since insulted the electorates’ intelligence with Monty Python-esque claims that he hasn’t broken any promises.”
https://newmatilda.com/2014/12/01/albanese-brands-negative-abbott-one-trick-tony-stinging-parliamentary-attack
“You can’t win the battle of ideas if you have no ideas””
When’s Bill Shorten going to tell us how he would deal with the Budget mess he helped create ?
“Rubbing salt into the wounds, he has since insulted the electorates’ intelligence with Monty Python-esque claims that he hasn’t broken any promises.”
Carbon Tax versus Carbon Price
Cant wait to se Bill going to the next election with a Carbon Tax policy tucked under his arm with Christine Milne smiling in the background.
“”USA has been printing money…that is always a bad sign… “”
Don’t tell TomR he’s a big fan of the printing press. I think he’s Catching Ups lovechild on that one.
Wow AO, hard to believe hockey is that friggin stoopid
“Don’t let Santa down, go and spend for Christmas,” the treasurer said on ABC radio.
“Household consumption is actually one of the biggest drivers of economic growth.”
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/dont-let-santa-down-urges-hockey-20141202-3lmvo.html
He’s done nothing but batter battlers, and now, wants them to go out and hcok(?) themselves for his myefo
Sorry dickwad, but the reality you have put on people will drive spending habits, not your pleading to save your miserable arse.
Don’t tell TomR he’s a big fan of the printing press
Well, as I said, there is a time and place for everything.
Labor spent big when needed, then tightened the belt. As the libs finally worked out when they came in, but was blatantly obvious for all to see
And hockey digs deeper, gloating about trading Aussie jobs for their “Free Trade” deals.
The treasurer was quite clear this morning that was the transaction – there would have been no free trade agreements if we hadn’t made the hard decisions on industry assistance at the beginning of the year.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2014/dec/02/poll-slide-for-tony-abbott-as-higher-education-heads-to-the-senate-politics-live#block-547cd3aae4b0975df952b39b
I said it all along, and now hockey has confirmed it.
They traded away our manufacturing industry to seal a deal
Miserable pricks.
“”Labor spent big when needed, then tightened the belt.””
Comedy Gold !
“Household consumption is actually one of the biggest drivers of economic growth.”
They always seem to ignore or conveniently forget the massive amount of private debt [due to their own policies] in this country.
“”Well, as I said, there is a time and place for everything.””
Yes……..especially when they are “Sovereign in their own Sovereignty””……………………or something as equally stupid like that
or something as equally stupid like that
I don’t recall you saying that, but it wouldn’t surprise me 😉
Comedy Gold !
Tell it hockley, who went to cut the ‘waste’ in the PS, and found it had already been cut to the bone
Just as one example
So Uncle Joe and our big commodity producers will benefit greatly from a falling AUD
That has just risen over US$0.85 and iron ore over $70 … the world has always had plenty of Philistines and Luddites …
Leave progress alone and we’d be in caves, eating grass and shooting pigeons with a bow and arrow …
I see Shiny Arse is still tilting at windmills … it would be funny if it wasn’t so sad …
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Born to rule … sliver spoons shoved up arses from birth … over-confident, over-educated, under-performers, low community productivity, delegators and decidedly catlik … how could they go wrong?
Well, watching one of the Liberal Party “strategists” last night, Textor, did not once men tion targeting the lowest socio economic group in the country and many (including the ADF) who cannot protest or fight back …
The LNP need to wake up to the fact that they live in Australia not upper crust Pommie Land nor the with the Wall ST and Hollywood set …
Real people live on this continent and I for one would like to see real people running the show … even Pauline Hanson would do a better fkn job than this incompetent, childish fkn rabble FFS!
sliver spoons shoved up arses from birth
Now that really IS a Spoonerism! LOL!
I’m beginning to like Jacquie Lambie…
Who knew Karl had it in him?
http://tagroom.com/bet-you-ve-never-heard-john-lennon-s-imagine-sang-like-this-50671
You know there’s a groundswell when even Karl Stefanovic gets it …
Pity The Abbott is so much of a coward … if he truly believed – he’d call a Double Dissolution …
Blast form the past …
“” … even Pauline Hanson would do a better fkn job than this incompetent, childish fkn rabble FFS!””
Spoken like a true rusted on Labor voter born with all the usual prejudice and bigotry his Yorkshire schooling could possibly instil.
Is it any wonder that the M25 simply has signs that point to “”The North”” as though its the garbage tip of humanity
Nuclear power keeps the corporates in charge. No wonder it’s conservatives’ preferred solution to climate change:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/01/nuclear-power-keeps-the-corporates-in-charge-no-wonder-its-conservatives-preferred-solution-to-climate-change
…“I have no theological objection” to nuclear power, Tony Abbott said on 1 December, responding to Julie Bishop’s relaunch of the right’s preferred “solution” to global warming this week.
Abbott’s choice of words is fascinating. On the face of it he’s suggesting that opposing nuclear power is a faith-based, rather than rational, view. But it is the right’s consistent promotion of a technology that has been shown repeatedly to be too slow, too costly and too risky (see, for instance, here and here) that is underpinned by several right wing articles of faith. It’s worth unpacking this credo, because it reveals what’s really going on when nuclear power is raised…
[Personally, I fkn hate the way abbott talks like his head is stuck in a fkn bible all the time and he is preaching the good word to us from a great height. Does he think it gives him gravitas or something? I truly think the more bible reading people do, the more stupid they become]
Wally, you wouldn’t have a clue about my birthplace … but you certainly demonstrate your narrow mindedness …
You conveniently forget that I criticise ANY government for being fkn incompetent … do you?
…“I have no theological objection”
Speaking of schooling … ya hero is supposedly a Rhodes Scholar … and of course you would have gone to the best private school …
Cou’d thee explain to us illit’rates from Yorksha wot ‘e me’nt wi’ “no thilogikul objekshun”, it sounds reet complikated?
“”You conveniently forget that I criticise ANY government for being fkn incompetent …””
BULLSHIT you do
“”You conveniently forget that I criticise ANY government for being fkn incompetent …””
BULLSHIT you do !
“”On the face of it he’s suggesting that opposing nuclear power is a faith-based, rather than rational, view. “”
You undie soilers of the Left have a faith based religion called Climate Alarmism.
Its not science based because the outcome in 1000 years cannot be proven one way or the other. So it’s faith based
talking of submarines, if they are not made locally, abbott will be breaking another promise
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2014/dec/02/poll-slide-for-tony-abbott-as-higher-education-heads-to-the-senate-politics-live
…Back to submarines. Labor’s South Australian senate leader (Penny Wong) intends to subject South Australians across the chamber (Simon Birmingham) to maximum political discomfort for the next hour or so.
Birmingham is telling the chamber the government won’t be distracted by stunts, it will set about in orderly fashion securing the best possible outcome for all Australians.
South Australian independent Nick Xenophon tells the chamber he knows the odd thing about stunts. (True that.)
But he says this isn’t a stunt. Xenophon says this is about trying to ensure the government keeps its election promises. The Coalition promised to build the new submarines in South Australia…
So it’s faith based
No it’s economic based – far, far, too expensive, demands enormous public funding.
Its not science based because the outcome in 1000 years cannot be proven one way or the other.
Wow, grodo’s found a replacement
Where do you get your 1000 years from?
We are seeing it happen right now. And, within 100 years, we are at the tipping point.
From your link at 1:20 pm AO
Xenophon says there is a lot of evidence now in the public domain which indicates the submarines can be built locally at a competitive price. Maintaining local shipbuilding capacity is important both economically and strategically, he says.
After hockeys revelation this morning that they traded away jobs at Elizabeth for a “Free Trade” deal, one wonders what the subs and the Japanese “Free Trade” deal have in common?
International media now reporting that Abbott may not survive first term as leader, Hockey’s Budget will be his first and last…
http://www.voanews.com/content/reu-tough-first-year-raises-doubts-australian-pm-will-last-full-term/2540665.html
“”Where do you get your 1000 years from?””
From one of your many white caped Gods of the hipster inner city elites
“If the world as a whole cut all emissions tomorrow, the average temperature of the planet’s not going to drop for several hundred years, perhaps over 1000 years”
– Tim Flannery
Its not science based because the outcome in 1000 years cannot be proven one way or the other.
I think we need more immediate certainty of outcomes than that, wouldn’t you think ?Business would be very antsy about a 1000 yr outcome, especially as they start screaming about ‘business certainty’ over just one election/budget cycle!
Obviously if they are not doing so, they show they only care about profits now and bugger the next generations, the costs to the public and the environmental costs [as usual].
If the establishment of rent seekers, sharks and predators is all for it, you know that it is not going to be good for the public.
“If the world as a whole cut all emissions tomorrow, the average temperature of the planet’s not going to drop for several hundred years, perhaps over 1000 years”
so, nothing at all to do with uranium eh? 🙄
I think we can call game over on the education reforms
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2014/dec/02/poll-slide-for-tony-abbott-as-higher-education-heads-to-the-senate-politics-live
An extraordinary statement from the PUP senator, Glenn Lazarus.
Christopher Pyne is embarrassing himself and needs to stop harassing me and other cross benchers.
I am being inundated with text messages from Christopher Pyne virtually begging me to support the Abbott government’s higher education reforms. I have never given Christopher Pyne my mobile phone number. Christopher Pyne’s office and other Abbott Government ministers are continuing to contact my office and other cross benchers offering all sorts of deals and incentives to get our support for the higher education reforms.
I won’t be bought and I am not prepared to horse trade.
stress related or hiding from pyne?
“”…………stress related or hiding from pyne?””
Hiding from the National Press Club more likely.
Both Lazarus and his colleague from WA were supposed to be present during Clive’s rant yesterday.
Neither bothered to attend
they’ve decided that it’s time to get dirty, expect the usual snark
““”Julie Bishop tells partyroom the Govt needs to focus on Labor’s negatives more.””
Yeah because that tactic worked so well in the VIC State election…
It’s a great idea! Bring it on!!
Yeah good one 🙄 spoken like a true accountant trying to fit the context of a statement into his explanation of complexities of science…
Nuclear energy is a foolish decision…
Yeah Nuclear energy is great.. until you have to dispose of the waste…
Cold fusion based on thorium is safer more efficient with a shorter half life. It would be a huge industry for Australia… But its development to working is decades away and styfiled by the ass wipe oil lobbyists..
After al Coal is good for humanity right?
But alas it doesn’t fit into the tiny minded meme of asbestos aspirants dictated by fiberal donors
Meanwhile in the real world
http://www.theage.com.au/business/markets/energy-shares-smashed-in-123b-plunge-as-opec-digs-in-20141201-11xr2k.html
Your quote from Flannery shows how wrong your statement was, because the outcome is well before 1000 years, that is the resultant plateau back to present day temperatures IF we can stop warming from increasing now.
The outcome of our current output is here and now.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2014/dec/02/poll-slide-for-tony-abbott-as-higher-education-heads-to-the-senate-politics-live
The red tape bill has now passed with amendments, including the Labor amendment for the competitive tender. The government spared its senators a vote. It passed on the voices.
South Australian senator Nick Xenophon supporting amendments to legislation for open tender processes associated with the purchase of new submarines.
South Australian senator Nick Xenophon supporting amendments to legislation for open tender processes associated with the purchase of new submarines.
Now, the bill returns to the House.
So now the ball is in Tony Abbott’s court – accept the competitive tender for the submarine acquisition, or knock it out.
Bombastic Joe’s not exactly a workaholic type, more the product of privilege:
http://www.news.com.au/national/hockey-insists-7-gp-fee-lives-on/story-fncynjr2-1227139458580
But Mr Abbott’s supporters have hit back at the Treasurer accusing him of being lazy and “bellowing’’ over the GP mess. One senior Liberal claimed Mr Hockey “went off his t**s’’ about the Prime Minister’s office briefing journalists that the policy was to be dumped.
In an extraordinary personal attack, one minister said Mr Hockey was a sook. Another senior Liberal said he was “erratic’’ because he’s either “full bottle or on holidays and there’s nothing in between.’’
From you international link reb
Abbott has had significant accomplishments this year, concluding free trade deals with Japan, South Korea and China, and hosting the G20 leader’s summit last month.
Well, if they call yabot embarrassing himself amongst world leaders a success, so be it.
The other “success” they mention involve yabot and his cronies selling off manufacturing jobs to overseas competitors in search of “Free Trade”
I’m not sure the workers in the factories consider the trade worth while.
Almost 90% of Australians support renewable energy target, says poll
WWF poll finds overwhelming support for RET, particularly in Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania, as senators consider deal:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/02/almost-90-of-australians-support-renewable-energy-target-says-poll
2:20pm: Education Minister Christopher Pyne is aggrieved to hear his number has been blocked by Palmer United Party senator Glenn Lazarus.
2:09pm: The Prime Minister attempts to reset the tone: “This has been a year of achievement for our country and a year of delivery for this government.”
The opposition benches dissolve into laughter.
Speaker Bronwyn Bishop issues an early warning: “We are going to have silence for questions and silence for answers.”
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end of day in parliament
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/the-pulse-live/federal-politics-live-2-december-2014-20141202-11y4dv.html
Where are things up to in the Senate?
The government is about to put a motion that the Senate sit late tonight with the hope that it will be able to have the higher education changes voted on. If that happens it will not be until well after the dinner break.
3:17pm: That’s it for Question Time.
The Opposition has spent the past hour trying to demonstrate the government has failed to move beyond the “atmospherics” of last week.
The government chose first to concentrate on its economic record and then moved on to the National Audiot Office’s report on rural grants which it first released last week in an attempt to stop everyone talking about the schemozzle that was the GP co payment. It’s still not catching on.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-declares-labor-feral-during-morning-tv-blitz-20141201-11y2sl.html
…I don’t think that anywhere near 50% of the people ever believed BS even at the last election and I am certain that it is nowhere near 50% now.
Don’t forget that Abbott is the PM not because he presented a positive alternative to Labor. He is PM only because of Rudd’s campaign of continuous treachery to the PM and his party including his leaking of information to Murdoch’s rags in order to destabilise a good government that was passing legislation and implementing major reforms like Gonski, and the NDIS.
Well over 50% of the people now realise that we have a lying dysfunctional PM and cabinet running the joint and I am confident that even if the leopard attempts to change its spots, the damage done to date is irreparable.
I am also confident that over 50% of the people will reward the LIARS of the LNP appropriately at the next election by consigning them to electoral oblivion for at least the next 3 terms.
I thought WorkChoices was dumb politics but Abbott and crew have gone way beyond the level of negativity that WorkChoices inspired in the electorate – and they won’t forget it for a long time to come
CommenterBrendan Location Sydney Date and time December 02, 2014, 9:43AM
…Liar, liar, Speedos on fire.
Even after all this “raggedness” and pseudo humble pie, Abbott still inhabits a parallel universe where truth and honesty don’t count.
What a poor choice the electorate made in allowing him to “lead” our country; a person who is quite ineffectual and untrustworthy – unless he’s wrecking something.
Commenterhg Location Date and time December 02, 2014, 9:52AM…
…Of course wrapping himself in the Australian flag (“foreign policy issues like MH17, MH370….. death cult threat”) and positioning himself in front of a Christmas tree don’t hurt. All cheap tricks to fool us and unfortunately 45% of the electorate is easily fooled.
If we are that easily fooled then we deserve a shallow PM like Abbott.
CommenterRAD61 Location Date and time December 02, 2014, 9:58AM
Where do you get your 1000 years from?
Desperation?
Disclaimer: Contrary to popular belief – I still am a sceptic … the future of energy has to be cleaner, leaner and smarter than just sucking coal, oil and gas up out of the ground and flogging it at exorbitant prices to the OWNERS?
Vision is something that “present dwellers” who suck the life out of everything, don’t have … lifesuckers …
The LNP has now taken us back to the steam era …
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Speaker Bronwyn Bishop issues an early warning: “We are going to have silence for questions and silence for answers.”
Chortle! Does that include the Bishopric too? Power corrupts, absolute power makes you look like a corrupt old cnt!
Contrary to popular belief – I still am a sceptic
And one of the very few in hte actual meaning of the word
The Climate Change Deniers have made ‘sceptic’ into almost a swear word.
Thanks for the updates on qt peeps, been to flat out to follow closely. Might go back and read through the live posts for the day now
yabot calling Labor feral is beyond ridiculous. They have tried to work with the grubmint on several issues, but the grubmint thinks “negotiating” means “our way or no way”
Just the same as when they were opposition.
And I don’t think many journo’s are going with them this time. (except for the hardcore rwdb’s)
“can disguise the fact that this Budget is a stinker and the Australian people know it.”
Well the Australian people are stupid. Anybody who believes Labor could do a better job is insane.
What i find amazing is how few people think we are in any trouble. The budget is in big trouble. Labor is not the answer. Labor govts just trash budgets. Just look at the history of Labor State and Federal govts from 1980.
The Australian people are deluded if they think a Labor govt will be an improvement.
“”Your quote from Flannery shows how wrong your statement was, because the outcome is well before 1000 years……””
OK since you are so certain. Just give me a date and time
He is PM only because of Rudd’s campaign of continuous treachery to the PM
I think that is a comment is not supported by the facts. Gillard was never popular with the electorate because she knifed a PM that the electorate (rightly or wrongly) liked.
Rudd had the ALP in front on 2pp and remained very popular. People disliked Gillard for knifing him
She never recovered.
The public formed a reasonable view of Gillard s character in my view.
“”Even a fifth of Liberal voters don’t think Abbott has “fundamentally kept faith” with voters “”
Even almost a sixth of Labor and Green voters think Abbott has “fundamentally kept faith” with voters .
ROFLMAO…………………and pray tell how many were actually in that survey ?
“”WWF poll finds overwhelming support for RET, particularly in Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania, “”
“”The Reachtel poll, conducted on 26 November, contacted 5,036 voters around Australia, including 1216 in Victoria, 934 in Tasmania and 873 in South Australia.””
What a BULLSHIT poll that is.
Since when does almost 20% of the population live in Tas or SA ??????????????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_list_of_states_and_territories_of_Australia
OK since you are so certain. Just give me a date and time
We’ll have your tax ready by …………………………………… chuckle …..
Even almost a sixth of Labor and Green
Giggle … that private school education really improves English skills, hey?
Just give me a date and time
I did, if you could be bother reading. It is Here and NOW()
He is PM only because of Rudd’s campaign of continuous treachery to the PM
I think that is a comment is not supported by the facts. Gillard was never popular only because of Rudd’s campaign of continuous treachery to the PM 😉
“A world-leading CSIRO chemist who was tipped to win a Nobel prize has been made redundant ”
Did anybody read the link? Well it said this
“Last financial year CSIRO cut 513 positions in response to a Labor government-enforced efficiency drive, a recruitment freeze implemented by the Abbott government and falling external revenue.”
Did anybody read the link?
Which link was that, Kneel?
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What a BULLSHIT poll that is.
I agree, Wally, the numbers really don’t reflect the true anger at the The Abbott & The Acolytes from the more populated states …
Kneel, think of the talent that Australia is turning away …
Like you I cherry picked data … so are you criticising the AL or the LNP for this?
You quoted …
Did anybody read the link? Well it said this
“Last financial year CSIRO cut 513 positions in response to a Labor government-enforced efficiency drive, a recruitment freeze implemented by the Abbott government and falling external revenue.”
So do you blame the ALP, the CSIRO, or the LNP for this stupidity?
The link under the quote at 3.28PM
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/technology/sci-tech/nobel-prize-contender-san-thang-cut-from-csiro-20141201-11xvaf.html
“Last financial year CSIRO cut 513 positions in response to a Labor government-enforced efficiency drive, a recruitment freeze implemented by the Abbott government and falling external revenue.”
The amazing thing about the Howard govt is that they funded everything at a reasonable level and ran surplus budgets.
AO’s post is deceitful. It tries to make out all CSIRO cuts are due to Abbott. Actually it was a Rudd/Gillard efficiency dividend on the CSIRO which started the job cuts.
Pardon me?
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/spies-soldiers-get-new-powers-to-fight-is/story-e6frfku9-1227142039346
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Thanks, Kneel, obviously I found the link (didn’t realise it was a tweet) …
Your reply glaringly indicates two things …
1. You have no idea about the rise and fall of economic opportunity to governments … not unusual for LNP supporters. (Here’s a clue – GFC)
2. You “blame” Rudd/Gillard but not Abbott …. and CSIRO have no blame because they simply had to make a decision …
As for “efficiency dividend” ** you mean “budget cuts” … the term is as annoying as “going forward” that simply means “in the future” …
** Just because spin doctors make up fkn stupid terminology it doesn’t mean you have to use it …
What’s the deal with the skull and crossbones…??
Wally referred to me as Pirate Pete … 🙂
Arrrrrrrrrrr, Ahrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr… Jim Lad …
It tries to make out all CSIRO cuts are due to Abbott. Actually it was a Rudd/Gillard efficiency dividend on the CSIRO which started the job cuts.
Well, the story states that the CSIRO “has been hemorrhaging staff since June last year following severe budget cuts and a restructure.”
There’s nothing to indicate that the Labor “government-enforced efficiency drive” had anything to do with it.
It was said at the time, and I just repeated it above, that Labor already were cutting everything to the bone. The libs and their spruikers in the media chose to ignore this, and, when yabots mob got in, they went and cut further, much further, which precipitated this “hemorrhaging “, and the loss of key positions, rather than just cleaning up any “waste”
So, Labor had already got rid of the “waste” the spruikers went on about, now, the libs are cutting into vital positions, as there is no “waste” to get rid off
Just another lie which is having devastating effects on our scientists.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-02/navy-personnel-open-up-about-border-protection/5933260
WTF is wrong with this system.
…Mr Norris was also shot in a training accident, suffered an electric shock on board a Navy ship, and was blown off an asylum seeker boat while attempting to destroy it.
All these things contributed to his debilitating PTSD, which he says was not treated seriously by his commanding officer.
“As he was reading the termination letter and I was having my anxiety attack and crying uncontrollably and whatever else, he didn’t even raise his eyes, didn’t take a breath, just continued reading,” Mr Norris said.
“[He] showed no compassion at all for my situation or the condition that I was in at the time. And that’s the kind a treatment I received. Getting rushed through because we were a liability.”
All the Navy personnel the ABC spoke to said they believe the secrecy surrounding border security operations exacerbated the trauma they suffered…
I like some pirates
“Well, the story states that the CSIRO “has been hemorrhaging staff since June last year following severe budget cuts and a restructure.”
These CSIRO cuts have been going on for a long time under Labor.
http://www.stockjournal.com.au/news/agriculture/agribusiness/general-news/report-slams-rudds-razor-job-on-csiro/1378785.aspx
“The Rudd Government’s one-off 2pc efficiency dividend for this financial year imposed an “arbitrary and unfair” burden on the CSIRO, a new government report says…………The dividend imposed a $23.6million cut in addition to a federal budget cut of $40m, forcing the CSIRO to merge divisions and shed more than 100 jobs in a bid to find annual savings of $15m over the next four years.
oops, here it is…maybe
These CSIRO cuts have been going on for a long time under Labor.
yes, that is what I said nil
There was no need to cut “waste”, there was none left
Yet the libs cut anyway
It was under this budget that these scientists lost their jobs, not Labors cuts
I like some pirates
Me Too! 🙂
More Pirates 🙂
And a laugh
“It was under this budget that these scientists lost their jobs, not Labors cuts”
That is not what the article said.
And you said this
“Well, the story states that the CSIRO “has been hemorrhaging staff since June last year following severe budget cuts and a restructure.”
The ALP was in power in June last year and the first Abbott budget was not until May this year. The article says the cuts were in the last financial year which was Swans last budget.
Yes nil, and so what does this grubmint do? They cut it even more.
He lost his job under their tenure. There is nothing that says he would have lost it if Labor were still in power.
The buck stops where?
You obviously have trouble with English
“Last financial year CSIRO cut 513 positions in response to a Labor government-enforced efficiency drive, a recruitment freeze implemented by the Abbott government and falling external revenue.””
If you believe the article Abbott only introduced a recruitment freeze. The cuts were due to a Labor efficiency dividend which the Libs did not stop.
I believe the article nil. Only thing is I, I read it all
This month, the CSIRO staff association released new data showing the size and scale of the job cuts were larger than expected, reporting that 878 positions were to be cut by June 2015.
The libs made the cuts deeper and harsher than Labor ever intended
Time the libs took the blame for their decisions, rather than blaming it on its predecessors
Ho hum RRRRR EYE EYE EYE EYE EYE NIL Comment should be keelhauled and sent to Davy Jones’s Locker for a thousand years.. 🙂
You obviously have trouble with English
Nah … Kneel, its not English (that I’ve always suspected is not your first language) … its comprehension that you lack … you read the words but don’t understand the full meaning …
Why not consult a Russian scientist?
So now everyone has come on board with me … I will share the bounty … just keep yer eye out for the frigate HMS Friggin’ in the Riggin’ that Wally wanders about in …
Talk about epic fail.. here is the minister for closets and ponsy talk in bleating arrogant denial.. go Leigh!!!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-02/senate-rejects-governments-push-to-deregulate-universities/5935116
Sorry TB.. its just too tempting
Abbott not needed in QLD says the little dicked tater Its obvious that Abbott is
Political Ebola…
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/tony-abbott-not-needed-for-queensland-lnp-election-campaign-campbell-newman-20141202-11y883.html
Tony’s kickin ass… just ask Tony
What is best in life?
Conan: Crush your AbbottCorps. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their apologists & lickspittles.
Mongol General: That is good! That is good.
* toiletboss concurs wholeheartedly…the implosion is spectacular to behold & the schadenfreude is delicious…as is the irony.
Bolt’s, daily schizo-switching between adulation, condemnation & heralding false hope is a genuine highlight.
Ah, the plight of a beholden partisan shill whose ideological cheerleading has painted themself (and their gargoyles) into a corner.
Fuck the piratehaterz…
painted themself (and their gargoyles) into a corner.
Wait for the bullet train tenders.
I see hockey is doing his best to create 1million jobs (overseas)
After his destruction of the Automotive industry, the next victim is the ASC. And his arguments are just as stoopid now as they were then
But Mr Hockey told ABC radio on Tuesday morning: “We don’t have time to go through a speculation process. We do not have time for people to suggest that they can build something that hasn’t been built. We don’t have time for that because Labor failed to make decisions.”
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/joe-hockey-rejects-open-tender-for-new-submarines-20141202-11your.html
” to suggest that they can build something that hasn’t been built”?
How many people had built a Collins Class Submarine before we did hockey, you bumbling fool?
I still think the japs have it in the bag, sold out along with our Automotive industry by hockey as he himself confirmed yesterday
Australian jobs are just trinkets to be bartered about with for flashy pieces of paper our deer leader can wave around to distract the meeja with.
Suck on that, ‘lizbeth!
Are we being run by a catlik version of the taliban?
Ms Sweeney also questioned whether excluding non-religious staff would undermine merit-based appointments.
“I would certainly be very disappointed that it’s got to the point where, rather than be selected for a job on merit, you are selected on the basis of religion,” she said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-02/non-religious-chaplains-may-not-be-funded-under-new-programme/5935450
It’s not how good you are, but how religious you are.
Welcome to 2014. Book burnings are next I assume?
Shoulda had one of the numerous piccies of pine poking his tongue out at someone reb.
In an adolt manner mind you 😉