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For Christ’s Sake: Taxpayers to fund Priests in Schools

December 5, 2014

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  • Abbott splurges taxpayers’ funds on pedlars of religious indoctrination!
  • No money for education or health but $820 million for religious freaks!
  • Religion in schools – you do know you’re paying for it…?

*****ANOTHER STUNNING GUTTER TRASH EXCLUSIVE INVESTIGATION!!!*****

Taxpayers will pay for the “training” of priests and other religious “workers” for the first time under Tony Abbott’s new so-called “higher education reforms.”

Under the plan, religious teaching, training and vocational institutes can apply for their share of a whopping $820 million in Commonwealth funding for “religious” training over the next three years.

Institutes such as the Sydney College of Divinity, Brisbane’s Christian Heritage College and the Perth Bible College will be eligible to receive a taxpayer funded grant of around $4000 per student for each year of study under the reforms.

The John Paul II Institute for Marriage and Family in Melbourne, which offers course units including “Theology and Practice of Natural Family Planning” and “Marriage in the Catholic Tradition”, will also eligible for the taxpayer funded financial support.

The institute says on its website its mission is “promote marriage and the family for the good of the whole Church and the wider community”.

The Anglican Diocese of Melbourne requires all trainee priests to receive theological training at Ridley College or the Trinity College Theological School, both of which will be eligible to offer “”Commonwealth Supported Places”” under the government’s changes.

“”FOR THE LOVE OF GOD””

On its core values page on its website the Perth Bible College says::

“We believe in the urgent need to reach our broken world with the gospel of Jesus Christ and to train men and women to be effective servants for God.”

And now, its god given right to do so will be funded by you, the taxpayer.

Family First Senator Bob Day said, in a letter to a member of the general public, that [under current the arrangements] it is unfair that public universities receive federal funding but religious colleges and other private providers do not.

“The Government’s proposals … reduce the subsidies given to universities, while for the first time addressing inequity by providing significant subsidies for non-universities (but still less than universities),” he wrote. “Some of these non-universities that will receive funding for the first time – if this Bill passes – are faith-based training, teaching, theological and vocational institutions.”

Labor and the Greens attacked the policy, saying it breaches the separation of Church and State. Earlier this year the government controversially announced it would provide $244 million for a new school chaplaincy scheme but would remove the option for schools to hire secular welfare workers.

Labor higher education spokesman Kim Carr said:

“This raises serious questions about relationship between Church and State. The Church has traditionally funded the training of its own personnel.”

Mr Carr said there was a difference between federal funding for theoretically-focused religious studies courses and courses designed to prepare graduates for the priesthood.

Greens higher education spokeswoman Lee Rhiannon said:

“Mr Pyne has gone one step further than robbing Peter to pay Paul – he is attempting to rob Australia’s public and secular university system to pay private, religious colleges.

“Courses that Mr Pyne wants to extend funding to include those teaching prescriptive Christian ideology on sexuality and marriage – is this really the best use of the higher education budget?”

 

 

 

 

 

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30 Comments leave one →
  1. December 5, 2014 4:18 pm

    So no money for ABC and SBS but Abbott can find $820 million to pay for religious freaks to torment our kids…

    IT’S A DISGRACE!!

  2. egg permalink
    December 5, 2014 4:22 pm

    If you say so.

  3. TB Queensland permalink
    December 5, 2014 4:27 pm

    Has anyone else noticed that all the anti IS fervour has now waned …since the new “anti-terror” laws were passed?

    And people wonder why conspiracy theories abound …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So those of us who are neither Muslim nor Christian nor Jewish, can stand aside and let religions have at each other and decide once and for all who will RUL THE WORLD … ? (oh, I wish) …

    And another thing ….

    Oi! Leave the kids alone!

  4. TB Queensland permalink
    December 5, 2014 5:34 pm

    http://www.abbottslies.com.au/

  5. public toilet permalink
    December 5, 2014 6:57 pm

    This shits me tremendously…

  6. Tom R permalink
    December 5, 2014 7:06 pm

    So no money for ABC and SBS but Abbott can find $820 million to pay for religious freaks to torment our kids…

    No money for pensioners, no money for soldiers, no money for Aboriginal programs, no money women’s shelters, no money for international aid, no money for environmental issues, no money for scientists, no money for Australian Car makers, no mopney for Australian submarines

    But plenty of money for religious freaks and private schools that bribe prime ministers in waiting

    Seems fair 😯

  7. Tom R permalink
    December 5, 2014 7:08 pm

    This shits me tremendously…

    Don’t hold back there public toilet! :mrgreen:

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    December 5, 2014 7:38 pm

    What bothers me the most is that the general public (voters) seem so quiet …

    … if I raise political issues they don’t want o discuss it … and if they do, some ranting LNP supporter fires up … when they’re challenged (that’s not hard) … they rant BS that they can’t justify … (and people look at them in a very odd way) it’s like talking to the Walking Dead – ie Wally, egg and Kneel – but in reality …

    And they are “committed” to Abbott … WTF are they on?

  9. TB Queensland permalink
    December 5, 2014 7:40 pm

    Pell must be sitting in the Vatican with that smug (I deceived ’em all) grin …

  10. December 5, 2014 8:21 pm

    “”What bothers me the most is that the general public (voters) seem so quiet …””

    I (rightly or wrongly) think that most ppl are just so sick to death of both major parties that they’ve become so completely dis-interested in politics altogether.

    And who can blame them. 😯

    Even the Greens are dull and predictable.

    Maybe what we need is another war.

    Oh wait……

  11. Tom R permalink
    December 5, 2014 8:25 pm

    Even the Greens are dull and predictable.

    BAN THE CARDIGAN!

  12. December 5, 2014 9:32 pm

    “BAN THE CARDIGAN!”

    If we did that then Walrus would have nowhere to go.

  13. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 5, 2014 10:15 pm

    …Has anyone else noticed that all the anti IS fervour has now waned …since the new “anti-terror” laws were passed?…

    yep

    Too many people just assume govt is going to do the right thing by them and the others don’t care because they know there’s nothing any of us can do, both parties unite self interest. These rights and freedoms destroying policies keep us all in line.

  14. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 5, 2014 10:19 pm

    Organised religion is just another branch of the ruling elite.
    indoctrinating kids into religion and allowing them to be in reach of organised religion has to bestate sponsored child abuse

  15. December 6, 2014 12:24 am

    Did I already mention how much this fucks me off?

    And I concur wholeheartedly with the comments made which recognise the dearth of fucks shown about tewwow since the majors got their internet strangulation laws rubber stamped. That fucks me off about ten times as much!
    Fear IS the mindkiller, apparently.

    Let the record show that some of us didn’t piss our undergarments & disparaged the real threat (invasive, intrusive, surveiling[?] government) as it lied its way into (genuine) freedomraping morphology.

  16. December 6, 2014 12:26 am

    As for legislating my tax dollars for training fantasy club purveyors…well, I’m sure you can imagine.

    Not surprised, but still disgusted.

    There is a fundamental difference between the CoaLIEtion & the ALP on that one. What say you, YomM?

  17. December 6, 2014 12:27 am

    At least Captain Morgan is spiced noir.

  18. December 6, 2014 12:29 am

    “indoctrinating kids into religion”

    If the inculcation of children was ceased, I’m confident that the fable worshipping would die a natural death within a few generations.

  19. December 6, 2014 4:43 am

    “If the inculcation of children was ceased, I’m confident that the fable worshipping would die a natural death within a few generations.”

    Or even sooner. How would anything be perpetuated if it wasn’t handed down?

  20. Tom R permalink
    December 6, 2014 8:16 am

    How would anything be perpetuated if it wasn’t handed down?

    Have some Faith tosy 😉

  21. December 6, 2014 8:33 am

    ””””””””””’Taxpayers will pay for the “training” of priests and other religious “workers” for the first time under Tony Abbott’s new so-called “higher education reforms.”””

    # Polluting the education system and students with `sky-fairy` studies doesn`t seem a practical way of moving the Nation forward in the `modern` world. (But then again, l`m not claiming John-W`s reheated zombies are are actually trying to do that either.)

    .

    ””””””””Too many people just assume govt is going to do the right thing by them””’

    # Nah, disagree big-time armchair, apart from the `minority` that makes up the `teams` cheerers, both teams have an ever-shrinking number of cheerers, it just that teabag-media perpetrate the opposite on viewers.

    ”””””and the others don’t care because they know there’s nothing any of us can do, both parties unite self interest. (#with)These rights and freedoms destroying policies””’

    # yeah, pretty much sums-up the majority (which is also `time-poor` too, and works against voters)

    ””””””’keep us all in line.””’#for how long 🙂

    .

    ”””””””””””””””””fable worshipping would die a natural death within a few generations.””””
    Sure dunny, for some. Others would turn to team-cheering. #go-team 🙂

  22. December 6, 2014 11:52 am

    “Or even sooner. How would anything be perpetuated if it wasn’t handed down?”

    I said ‘a few’ generations because generations overlap & presumably communicate with each other.

  23. December 6, 2014 12:12 pm

    Somethings are not worth “handing down.”

  24. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2014 12:41 pm

    And that really IS deep … and very, very true, Jummy!

  25. Meta permalink
    December 6, 2014 1:08 pm

    (“Somethings are not worth “handing down.”

    Like ‘magic underpants’?

    “Others would turn to….”

    Or the notion that there is/isn’t necessarily a(ny) natural limit, past, present, and/or future, to the quantity and/or quality of ‘fables’ (un)likely to be handed down and/or received by the (para)logically (pre)disposed? Not that a full subscription to an ‘End of the Age of Entitlement’ culture’s coincidental predilection for underwriting an ‘End of the Age of Enlightenment’ is anything to be sniffed at, either, really.)

  26. TB Queensland permalink
    December 6, 2014 1:33 pm

    Off for the weekend … enjoy yours … arrr, me ‘arties!

  27. December 6, 2014 8:20 pm

    (For Certain; The Age of Enlightenment has ended. So-called Darwin like theories demanded this to allow the rise of the zombies. Evolution demands `mindless-prey` thrive to ensure ample feeding opportunities for the predator zombies.)

  28. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 7, 2014 5:13 am

    Get rid of HECS.

    Have a permanent graduate tax that isn’t optional. Something like Medicare levy.

    The idea that young people should leave university with a sense that they’re $60,000 in debt is an outrage.

  29. Tom R permalink
    December 7, 2014 9:23 am

    The idea that young people should leave university with a sense that they’re $60,000 in debt is an outrage.

    Serves them right for not having a father who might be PM one day and is open to bribes.

  30. TB Queensland permalink
    December 7, 2014 8:36 pm

    The idea that young people should leave university with a sense that they’re $60,000 in debt is an outrage.

    And some of us paid as we learned …

    I earned too much for HECS … I began my five year distance ed. degree – with stars in my eyes – when I was 39 … I was eligible for a 10% discount for paying upfront … my BBus. cost us … $45,000 … graduated in 1992 … and started my consultancy in that year …

    I’d like my g/kids (ideally, well, really their parents – to not have to pay at all) an educated population develops a nation …

    … but like any system some people become permanent students – denying High School grads learning opportunities (by using up resources) … why not keep HECS and charge more upfront fees for Grad Certs, Masters Degrees and Doctorates …

    And for the uninitiated many businesses will repay uni fees if the learner provide evidence of passing a subject … (or used to ..)

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