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Tony Abbott in Fight for Political Survival as Leadership Spill Announced

February 6, 2015

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Self-professed top team captain and bestower of knighthoods Tony Abbott faces a fight for his political survival after after two MPs today formally requested a spill motion at next Tuesday’s Liberal Party meeting.

West Australian Liberal Luke Simpkins and another of his colleagues brought on the motion this morning that could see PM Abbott flushed from the top job a mere 18 months after the election.

If unseated, it would the ultimate humiliation for Mr Abbott who has enjoyed depths of negative popularity not seen amongst voters in the last 40 years.

Only yesterday, Mr Abbott insisted no such leadership speculation was underway signalling that ant such move would reflect poorly on the government and be a hark back to the chaos of the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd years of unstable government.

His closest ally, Joe Hockey has also dismissed any such leadership speculation up until this point.

Arguably Joe Hockey was the most to lose should Abbott be deposed and will most likely be dumped as Treasurer given his abject failure in the portfolio.

Earlier today Luke Simpkins called Mr Ruddock and the Prime Minister directly to inform them of his intentions.

He then sent out an email to all MPs.

“I think that we must bring this to a head, and test the support of the leadership in the party room,” he said.

Mr Simkins, the member for Cowan, is said to have made his decision to call for a spill after being persuaded by his electorate that change was needed.

 

 

 

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407 Comments leave one →
  1. February 6, 2015 1:54 pm

    Just read the good news on SMH. Just in time for a Friday celebratory drink.

  2. February 6, 2015 1:57 pm

  3. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 2:02 pm

    oops, didn’t realise that reb had another post up re #libspill
    finger on the pulse reb!

    Is anyone really surprised? Who had the bet on abbott not lasting a week?

    https://theguttertrash.com/2015/02/02/why-the-liberals-shouldnt-abandon-tony-abbott/#comment-94406

  4. February 6, 2015 2:25 pm

    Much laughter ensues…

    Last night Tony Abbott said “we are a united team. I trust my colleagues & they trust me”

  5. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 2:41 pm

    Excuse me while I just piss myself laughing

  6. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 2:43 pm

    Looks like everyone else is too lol

    Love the mullet on BillSave halfway down too 🙂

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/txt-ur-mps?bffb&bftw&utm_term=4ldqpgd#.el6lXLYB6

  7. public toilet permalink
    February 6, 2015 2:50 pm

    Ah a haha a hahaha. ..

    The irony.

    The schadenfreude.

    The lurid sport of it all!

  8. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 2:53 pm

    The schadenfreude.

    Seems to be the word of the day

  9. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 2:57 pm

    Will it still be the word next Tuesday though?

  10. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 6, 2015 2:58 pm

    I feel dirty. I can’t take my eyes off this Liberal train-wreck even though I know that, whatever happens next week, nothing good will happen for the country at least until the next election. And even then there is no real basis for thinking that Billy Two-Knives will be much better. There is little reason to expect that the economy will improve anytime soon, no matter who is in government.

    Maybe people who think like me are the problem, enjoying gleeful cheap thrills at the demise of an arrogant charlatan while not being able to think of a way to make the place better.

    Step one would be to have a coherent set of policies from each of the major parties. Step two would require them to keep their promises once in office. Each of those things seems unattainable. Even if, by some miracle, that came to pass we also need a system where the party elected can implement the promises it was elected to keep. If whoever is elected faces a hung parliament or a hostile senate then it will be business as usual in the Canberra looney bin.

    Anyway, pass the popcorn. I might as well enjoy the bloodletting spectacle. There won’t be much to enjoy for a long while after that.

  11. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:00 pm

    I do hope The Mad Abbott wins his throne leadership back after the spill …

    If I was a religious person I’d be prey(hehe)ing to my deity …

  12. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:05 pm

    ABC 24 – Barry said that the word since the vic & qld elections is that the voters have become fickle [heh, it’s us not them!]. He argues that’s not right, he thinks the public are sick of them and are saying to the parties “if you keep putting up these people we will keep knocking them off until you give us someone we can respect”

    I think he sniffs the breeze correctly.

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:07 pm

    There is little reason to expect that the economy will improve anytime soon, no matter who is in government.

    And governments would be lucky to have half the impact on business that people (and government) think they do … most of us get on with it …

  14. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:08 pm

    Of course, the abbott might just win in the spill.
    Imagine the triumphant smirk!

    I like how ABC is reporting the spill with the backdrop of dark and heavy, fast rolling thunderclouds overhead!

  15. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:10 pm

    I think he sniffs the breeze correctly.

    Yeah, me too, KL …

    So now its the public … and the media … and of course … Labor’s fault …

    Emu’s Syndrome … or its derivative … HUAS … Head Up Arse Syndrome …

  16. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:13 pm

    If you really think about it … changing the actors will never improve the screenplay or directing …

    Simply remaking the same B Grade film will be simply remaking the same B Grade film …

  17. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:18 pm

    “The lurid sport of it all!

    It makes blogging such a pleasure!

    Go Mal!

  18. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:30 pm

  19. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:32 pm

    where’s neil?

    I’d like to know who he’d prefer to see as leader of the libs and why.

  20. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:35 pm

    I think bananaby is trying to influence the outcome of the spill. The nats don’t get a vote, but still they’ll be trying on their best blackmail.

  21. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:40 pm

    Firm response from abbott, walked straight out after so no questions could be taken. Was that person waiting at the door and following him out, credlin? Only saw the back of her head.

  22. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:43 pm

    Changing leaders does change the orientation of government. The “captain’s” picks are different, the public comments are too.

    Both provide the direction of government.

    Personally I think the republic and marriage equality are important issues for the national character and Turnbull is likely to give both some airplay.

  23. February 6, 2015 3:47 pm

    Tony Abbott just set a new world record for the shortest press conference ever (97 seconds)…

    Here’s what he had to say:

    As you know, two of my colleagues have called for a leadership spill of the two senior positions in our party. They’ve called for a spill of my position as leader and they’ve called for a spill of Julie Bishop’s position as deputy.

    The first point to make is that they are perfectly entitled to call for this, but the next point to make is that they are asking the partyroom to vote out the people that the electorate voted in, in September 2013.

    I want to make this very simple point. We are not the Labor Party. We are not the Labor Party and we are not going to repeat the chaos and the instability of the Labor years, so I have spoken to deputy leader Julie Bishop and we will stand together in urging the partyroom to defeat this particular motion and in so doing, and in defeating this motion, to vote in favour of the stability and the team that the people voted for at the election.

    We have a strong plan. It’s the strong plan that I enunciated at the Press Club this week and we are determined to get on with it, and we will.

  24. February 6, 2015 3:47 pm

  25. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:48 pm

    C Uhlman – we’ll see an election year budget coming up, the PM trying to buy back voter support with family and small business tax cut packages, also aimed at getting support from his own party.

  26. February 6, 2015 3:49 pm

    “”I like how ABC is reporting the spill with the backdrop of dark and heavy, fast rolling thunderclouds overhead!””

    If I remember correctly the weather was the same on the weekend of the QLD State election.

    Very Shakespearean…

  27. February 6, 2015 3:50 pm

    “” the abbott might just win in the spill.””

    I sincerely hope he does!

  28. February 6, 2015 3:50 pm

  29. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 3:54 pm

    …so I have spoken to deputy leader Julie Bishop and we will stand together in urging the partyroom to defeat this particular motion…

    We always knew it’s not in his nature to admit defeat and resign, love to be in that room on tuesday, because I’m thinking if he can’t woo them over, he’ll be ready to go the biff!

  30. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 6, 2015 4:05 pm

    we are not going to repeat the chaos and the instability of the Labor years”

    Hahahahahaha! What is this circus then? What else has your government done but give us chaos and instability?

  31. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 4:06 pm

    Julie bishop and abbott both standing together in the spill, does her support assist abbott in defeating his competitors, does it make him stronger?

  32. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 4:17 pm

    I’m thinking that abbott should not have changed his phone number!

    Ruddock – the party will decide how they vote.

    C Uhlman – “there’s a big difference between being asked to stick your hand up in front of your colleagues and a secret ballot. If I was PM, I would go a show of hands”

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 4:22 pm

    The way that the LNP pollies are talking (Cabinet anyway) … they’re toast … they do not understand that this is not an internal LNP issue … its the PEOPLE that don’t want them there!

  34. February 6, 2015 4:28 pm

    “Step one would be to have a coherent set of policies from each of the major parties. Step two would require them to keep their promises once in office. Each of those things seems unattainable. ”

    I concur.

    Unfortunately, we live on Earth, where cynical political opportunists & their lobbyist handlers tweak the system.

    Great to see AbbottCorp eating itself. especially after the hay that arsehat made with the ALP doing same while he was in Opposition.

    Just once, I’d like to be able to vote for a Party I like, that represents me at least superficially (I’m not dead against intelligent, reasonable compromise), rather than voting for the ‘least worst’ in a wave of ‘anyone but the cnut there now’.
    Seems to me, most every election this century has comprised a voting out…not a voting in sentiment.

  35. February 6, 2015 4:30 pm

    OMG You couldn’t make this shit up..

    Kevin Andrews actually just said: “I believe Tony Abbott and Julia Gillard are the best team to lead Australia”…

  36. February 6, 2015 4:30 pm

    “there’s a big difference between being asked to stick your hand up in front of your colleagues and a secret ballot. If I was PM, I would go a show of hands”

    Me too.

    I fkn hate secret ballots.

    I respect people who’ll stand by their convictions (even if I don’t agree). Not those who are spineless or attempting to safely sniff the mood of the room.

  37. February 6, 2015 4:33 pm

    “OMG You couldn’t make this shit up..”

    It’s a red letter day for AbbottHaterz!

    I’m a proud, card carrying member.

    Suck my fat one, Anthony Arrogant Abbott.

    His ‘credentials’ have been on public display for well over a decade, for anyone paying attention.

    Well do I remember him making my skin crawl during his reign over several ministries of the HowardCorp gocernment.
    Astonishingly, he’s making Howard look like a measured leader with (on balance) shrewd judgement.

  38. February 6, 2015 4:41 pm

    Oh dear, this totally contradicts what Abbott said earlier this afternoon…

  39. February 6, 2015 4:49 pm

    Lurid Spectacle…

    He probably thinks she’ll be seen but not heard a good cook ready to iron, like a BOSS very loyal…

  40. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 4:56 pm

    wow, pretty steamed up, hope it’s not neil!

  41. February 6, 2015 5:15 pm

    “I see Bolt is hopping into Turnbull. That’s a badge of honour, for a political commentator, Bolt rarely shows any rational political judgement”

    Bolt’s objection to Turnbull is (and has long been) rooted in his reflexive anti-AGW alarmism. He also (probably correctly) senses that a move to Turnbull represents a shift towards the centre (from the teabag right) which he sees as betrayal of the (often sold to the highest bidder) conservative trademark/brand.

    Bolt has many attack pieces on Turnbull, even as Abbott ‘reigned supreme’, even within the last six months or so. Not to mention his longwinded campaign against Turnbull, predicated upon the possibility that what is going to happen may well one day happen.

    Bolt also squirts about Unions, Human Rights, The ABC, Leftists (everywhere, but most of all under his bed) & the Islamic Hordes at The Gates.

    Bolt is predictable.

    You know he’s actually pissed when he deviates from the line he’s running to criticise his ‘own’. To his credit, he’s made several acknowledgements in recent times that AbbottCorp’s goose is baked…in amongst paltry efforts to apologise for & forlornly wish that it wasn’t so (his ‘duty’).

  42. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:19 pm

  43. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:36 pm

  44. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:37 pm

    Oh dear, this totally contradicts what Abbott said earlier this afternoon…

    So we’re still being fed lies and deceit … shakes head … plans WT & soda!

  45. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:39 pm

    Bolt also squirts about Unions, Human Rights, The ABC, Leftists (everywhere, but most of all under his bed) & the Islamic Hordes at The Gates.

    So he gets his ideas from certain TGT commenters?

  46. February 6, 2015 5:41 pm

    Ha!

    No, I think they’re all ‘wired’ that way…and they all read the same sources.

  47. February 6, 2015 5:45 pm

    It’s a WIN/WIN situation regardless of the outcome….

    If Tony gets the heave it’ll prove that the party’s in complete disarray and his career will be over.

    If he stays he’ll lead the party to certain defeat at the next election.

  48. February 6, 2015 5:46 pm

    I agree.

    I can’t lose.

    It’s like burning a flag.

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:47 pm

    Yep … tho’ I prefer the latter option …

  50. February 6, 2015 5:49 pm

    I hope someone (and I’m sure someone has) has been collecting Abbottian quotes of yore!

    So much schadenfreude.

  51. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:50 pm

    All we can do now is wait … and chuckle …

    Problem … after the election (DD???) … and ALP take it are we back to square one?

  52. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:51 pm

    we’ll see an election year budget coming up

    only thing missing was the harsh budgets to pay for it.

    I’d like to be able to vote for a Party I like

    The toilet Boss party. I can almost smell it from here

    Oh dear, this totally contradicts what Abbott said earlier this afternoon…

    Business as usual then.

    senses that a move to Turnbull represents a shift towards the centre

    Personally, I don’t think we have devices calibrated to sense a shift of that atomity.

    I think they’re all ‘wired’ that way

    The ‘Royal’ “they” I assume 😉

  53. February 6, 2015 5:51 pm

    I hope he stays too.

    Very difficult to call.

    Neither side is being ‘transparent’ at the moment. They’re both getting their ducks in a row.

    The public voyeurism is soiling them all, regardless of who wins.

    To regain popularity, the Coalition (if Barnaby doesn’t splinter the conservative vote!) has to do some radical eating of its own words. I can’t see that happening.

    And I thought Labor were fucked up!

  54. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:54 pm

    are we back to square one?

    No, rudds gone, so at least we can “Move Forward” 🙂

  55. February 6, 2015 5:55 pm

    “Personally, I don’t think we have devices calibrated to sense a shift of that atomity.”

    I mean rhetorically, as opposed to the proud, arrogant sloganeering of AbbottCorp (who mistook discontent with the ALP as endorsement of self).

    I prefer a bluntening of political rhetoric. To me, it suggests a semblance of (at leats pretending towards) moderation.

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:55 pm

    Before the Spill Vote … wonder if the Libs will discuss:

    ► Removing negative gearing

    ► Closing Family Trusts

    ► Post politics perqs

    ‘Cause if they don’t its just been a time waster …

    And if The Mad Abbott Returns … I guarantee you he will be blundering about with gaffe after gaffe, just like he has always done …

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:58 pm

    … has to do some radical eating of its own words

    More about action than words, Tollette, for the plebs anyway … the Lib pollies are just wind up dolls …

  58. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:58 pm

    And I thought Labor were fucked up!

    Luckily, they’ve gone through the humiliation of an electoral defeat (which is apparently what it takes to get rid of some chaff)

    The question is, if yabot loses, will he do a rudd, or will he vacate admirably.

    I actually get the feeling that he will tow the party line. I really have nothing in his history to base hat on, just a feeling. (or a guess)

  59. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 5:59 pm

    TR, did you mean “atomicity”? (serious question)

  60. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 6:01 pm

    … he will tow (sic) the party line …

    toe, mate, … you know what ToSY &Tom are like … actually very quiet today I see … 😉

  61. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 6:02 pm

    I agree BTW … who else would employ him? Could you imagine TMA in sales … LOL!

  62. February 6, 2015 6:02 pm

    “”The toilet Boss party.””

    It does have a nice ring to it.

  63. February 6, 2015 6:04 pm

    “”The question is, if yabot loses, will he do a rudd, or will he vacate admirably.””

    Who knows…

    Maybe he’ll languish on the backbenches somewhere…

    One thing’s for sure – he’s unemployable in the private sector.

  64. February 6, 2015 6:06 pm

    “”who else would employ him? “”

    Beat me to it.

    Maybe he could get a job in “customer service”. He reckons he has “people skills.””

  65. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 6:06 pm

    he’s unemployable in the private sector.

    Never underestimate the private sector.

    After all, I got a job 🙂

  66. February 6, 2015 6:09 pm

    A latter life return to the seminary? renouncing Marge’s feminine wiles & sending the youngsters off to a redemptionary convent?

    OR

    A title fight against Anthony The Man Mundine!?

  67. February 6, 2015 6:09 pm

    “It does have a nice ring to it.”

    Might have the same sort of novelty value as The Sex Party?

  68. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 6:12 pm

    could tony up the ante?

    Why doesn’t he bring on a DD? He’s been saying only the voters should remove him since we somehow ‘elected’ him as PM.

    Let’s go!

  69. February 6, 2015 6:15 pm

    Maybe he could drag out Margie again…?

  70. February 6, 2015 6:15 pm

    I think only the GG can bring on a DD..

    #couldbewrong

  71. February 6, 2015 6:18 pm

    “Why doesn’t he bring on a DD? He’s been saying only the voters should remove him since we somehow ‘elected’ him as PM.

    Let’s go!”

    Because

    #gutlessfuck

    #thepropagandadoesntmatchtherealityandheknowsit

  72. February 6, 2015 6:33 pm

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/feb/06/malcolm-turnbull-as-leader-would-put-coalition-well-ahead-of-labor-says-poll

    Catapult into an election winning lead…until you remember that the stalwarts of the party won’t stand for a ‘weakening’ of its ideological position.

    Political Conservatism…withering on the vine as an ageing demographic similarly dwindles.

  73. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 6:34 pm

    It does have a nice ring to it.

    lol I saw what you did there.

    Why doesn’t he bring on a DD?

    Election NOW()! 😆

  74. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 6:36 pm

    Catapult into an election winning lead…

    The best thing for Labor is for yabot to be retained. For some reason, and I still don’t get it, people STILL think turnbulls a moderate.

    It would be interesting how they react when he keeps the same ideological bent that made this mob so unpopular.

  75. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 6, 2015 6:40 pm

    “that made this mob so unpopular.”

    It is easy for Labor to be popular.

    Just run $40B budget deficits and fund everything in an unsustainable way.

  76. February 6, 2015 6:42 pm

    Here he is!

    The lookoverthere LaborLaborLabor pompomperson.

  77. February 6, 2015 6:45 pm

    Presumably, Abbott’s imminent (possible) demise is all Labor’s fault. If only a Senate (not controlled by the ALP) had simply prostrated itself before the reform agenda which AbbottCorp didn’t take to the last election! sob

    No recognition that the greater public seems to deem AbbottCorp’s ‘reforms’ unfair & ideological & a salve to those hwom it’s beholden to.

  78. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 6, 2015 6:46 pm

    Mate- this country could not take another Labor govt for the next 10 years.

    They are nothing but economic vandals

  79. February 6, 2015 6:47 pm

    Neil of Sydney…more predictable than Bolt…without the vocabulary or talent for obfuscatory polemic disseminatory ramblings.

    Some would say, at least he doesn’t pretend (ever).

  80. February 6, 2015 6:48 pm

    “They are nothing but economic vandals”

    Who’s been in government for the last term?

    When does the statute of limitations on blaming the ALP expire?

    Is Abbott where he is today because of the Opposition?

    How stupid do you think I am?

  81. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 6:52 pm

    Maybe he could drag out Margie again…?

    And the daughters should start ordering their matching white designer outfits!

  82. February 6, 2015 7:05 pm

    Murdoch dunnit.

  83. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:05 pm

    “Who’s been in government for the last term?”

    So they are supposed to pay off $300B of debt in one term??

    “No recognition that the greater public seems to deem AbbottCorp’s ‘reforms’ unfair & ideological”

    45% of the country would say that no matter what the Coalition policies were. I suspect if it was a Labor govt doing the same thing not much would be said.

    I do not think Labor supporters realise how biased they are.

    Fact is there is a budget emergency and no-one from the Labor side of politics cares.

  84. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:08 pm

    It would be interesting how they react when he keeps the same ideological bent that made this mob so unpopular.

    Indeed … I haven’t seen street marches against the Feds since VN …

  85. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:11 pm

    When does the statute of limitations on blaming the ALP expire?

    Until the get elected next.

    Murdoch dunnit.

    Murdoch reapedit 🙂

    So they are supposed to pay off $300B of debt in one term?

    No, they promised to reduce it, not increase it.

  86. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:13 pm

    Under Malcolm Turnbull the Coalition would catapult from an election-losing position in the polls to a decisive election-winning lead, according to a new opinion poll that lands as his party’s MPs deliberate on how to vote in Tuesday’s dramatic leadership spill motion.

    I recall the same (incessant) polls about rudd too

  87. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:18 pm

    To me, it suggests a semblance of (at leats pretending towards) moderation.

    That’s his danger. He’s a wolf in sheeps clothing. Underneath, the destruction will continue. It will be harder to get away with it now the electorate have woken from their slumber.

    Still wondering if the asbestos bishop will get up? She would cause less disruption within the party. (and I want my projection to come true)

  88. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:18 pm

    This is the weirdest, contraire, hypocritical story I’ve ever read … (no I don’t read Devine – but I was surfin’) … she manages to attack Abbott, Credlin and Murdoch “her boss” and attempts to defend them at the same time … when thieves fall out!

    http://www.news.com.au/national/miranda-devine-desperate-defence-of-credlin-is-humiliating/story-e6frfkp9-1227203618369

    Illogical nonsense …

  89. Tom R permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:21 pm

    Illogical nonsense …

    So, just another typical devine outpouring then?

  90. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:22 pm

    Murdoch dunnit … Credlin … Labor … the Senate … the voters … the media … backbenchers … Putin … Obama … Malysian Airlines … the ABC and SBS … Gutter Trash … Barnaby Joyce … Liberal backbenchers …

  91. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:26 pm

    He’s a wolf in sheeps clothing

    I prefer leopard … can’t change his spots … even in sheep’s clothing …

    (Missed the apostrophe, TR … when will you learn?) 😉

  92. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:29 pm

    So, just another typical devine outpouring then?

    I’ve probably only read four or five articles by, Devine, TR …

    I think I read a 1/4 of a Bolt column yesterday …

    These folk are bizarre … at least their, there, they’re writing scribbling is …

  93. February 6, 2015 7:34 pm

    “These folk are bizarre … at least their, there, they’re writing scribbling is …”

    Hard to imagine why Rupe pays them to do it.

  94. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:35 pm

    😆

  95. February 6, 2015 7:38 pm

    I hope Abbott does go the knuckle. Given his style, though, he’d want to choose his fights carefully.

  96. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 6, 2015 7:39 pm

    Not the slightest concern by the lefties about the debt this country is in.

  97. February 6, 2015 7:48 pm

    Murdoch dunnit … Credlin … Labor … the Senate … the voters … the media … backbenchers … Putin … Obama … Malysian Airlines … the ABC and SBS … Gutter Trash … Barnaby Joyce … Liberal backbenchers …

    The Collective…

  98. February 6, 2015 7:49 pm

    “I hope Abbott does go the knuckle. Given his style, though, he’d want to choose his fights carefully.”

    Absolutely!

    The Man would…FINISH HIMFLAWLESS VICTORY !!!

  99. February 6, 2015 7:53 pm

    Not the slightest concern by The Non-incontinent about the fearsquirt this country is in.

  100. February 6, 2015 7:54 pm

    Tones should stick to being a MAMIL.

    (NTTAWWT)

  101. February 6, 2015 8:04 pm

    I have a MAMIL (a failed schoolteacher/coffee-van-pilot) living next door.

    Not my favourite dysmorphic amateur cyclist, on account of his tree (which I have no legal recourse to demolish [with E X T R E M E prejudice]) & its obscurance of 30% efficiency of my Solar-evilgreenenergy Panels.

    Must admit, I din’t know MAMILs was a thing. But I can spot one from fathoms away!

  102. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 8:07 pm

    Hard to imagine why Rupe pays them to do it.

    I agree, ToSY … we could knock it over in about 20 words and a coupla photos …

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 8:08 pm

    Oh, were you being subtly sarc? 🙂

  104. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 8:12 pm

    Given his history, do you reckon he’ll go the knuckle when the intimidation fails?

    Will go down well historically!

    +++++++++++++++++++

    The Collective…

    Killer, bro!

    MAMIL! New acronym for TB … reaction … FUCK!

  105. February 6, 2015 8:12 pm

    I was an ETIL (Late Twenties In Lycra), became a MTIL (Mid Thirties In Lycra), and could now be called a MAMIL.

    I blame the “sport” of Triathlon.

    (Not to mention Speedos Budgie Smugglers during the necessary pool training.)

  106. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 8:13 pm

    MAMIL

    Got School Principal down the road …

  107. February 6, 2015 8:15 pm

    *LTIL

  108. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 8:15 pm

    I blame the “sport” of Triathlon.

    Hey! Nice share, ToSY …

    I’ve never owned speedos … board short all the way … I’m quite modest … 🙂

  109. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 8:16 pm

    *LTIL

    You do realise that could be interpreted differently?

  110. February 6, 2015 8:21 pm

    I have no problem with MAMILs who don’t have trees obscuring my Solar-evilgreenenergy Panels.

  111. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 8:26 pm

    It is amounting to a confidence vote he can’t expect to win cleanly. Mr Abbott’s own colleagues are about to cause more damage to his authority in one day than Labor has managed over 16 months.

    They don’t get it … Labor has done nothing — it’s the electorate (talking to their elected reps) … Cabinet politicians are so encapsulated in their own self, they don’t understand what is really happening in the country … AND THAT IS THE REAL ISSUE …

    http://www.news.com.au/national/why-tony-abbott-cant-win-no-matter-what-happens-next-week/story-fncynjr2-1227210852486

  112. February 6, 2015 8:31 pm

    “it’s the electorate (talking to their elected reps)”

    Hmm. Not sure about that. I’m inclined to think it’s local members poll-watching, worried about the pay cut they’ll get when government becomes opposition.

    #selfinterestisalwaysthebestexplanation

  113. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 8:35 pm

    I’m inclined to think it’s local members poll-watching,

    Polls are not the BS that people make out … they are a valid part of our contemporary democracy (for what it’s worth) …

    I still don’t understand why people (who want to) can’t vote via internet …

  114. February 6, 2015 8:53 pm

    ” I’m inclined to think it’s local members poll-watching, worried about the pay cut they’ll get when government becomes opposition.”

    They’re the ones putting pressure on Tony Abbott.

    Public opinion, through the polls, is putting pressure on them.

  115. February 6, 2015 8:57 pm

    “”lol I saw what you did there.””

    I was wondering whether anyone would notice…. ;P

  116. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 6, 2015 9:24 pm

    “Public opinion, through the polls, is putting pressure on them.”

    Yep. The public want $40B budget deficits so they can maintain their current lifestyle.

  117. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 9:46 pm

    Maybe he could give the ADF marriage counselling vouchers, to assist when the wage goes down.

  118. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 9:58 pm

    …Must admit, I din’t know MAMILs was a thing. But I can spot one from fathoms away!…

    That’s funny, my kids can spot a hipster from a mile away!

  119. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 10:05 pm

    hehe, wayne’s been quite the funster lately!

  120. TB Queensland permalink
    February 6, 2015 11:10 pm

    Churchill collapsed after WWII … fighting Hitler was a bit different to helping people … they voted him out!

  121. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 6, 2015 11:26 pm

    The libs don’t have much respect for the voters of indi do they?

  122. TB Queensland permalink
    February 7, 2015 9:05 am

    Another Captain’s Pick … different dickhead … same party … is the Liberal Party full of ’em?

    Dear Campbell,

    I am writing to ask if you would be interested in talking to the Wodonga branch of the Liberal Party regarding standing for pre-selection for the Federal seat of Indi.

    By way of background, the Federal seat of Indi was historically a blue ribbon seat for the Liberal Party and after the 2007 Federal election our local member Sophie Mirabella enjoyed a majority of 18 per cent.

    However, in the 2010 Federal election Sophie suffered a 9 per cent swing against her and then in the 2013 Federal election suffered another 9 per cent swing against her and lost the seat to independent Kathy (sic) McGowan by around 600 votes.

    Unfortunately many Liberal Party supporters would not vote for Sophie although we members like her personally.

    At the moment pre-selection has not commenced, although we are hoping it will be completed by June this year.

    The National Party has announced they will be standing a candidate.

    We had a branch meeting last night and when the matter of asking you if you would be interested in talking to us about standing for pre-selection was mentioned this suggestion was received favourably.

    Of course it is a big decision for you and your wife to make.

    We ask you to consider the matter and to check out the electorate and all relevant matters.

    One thing I feel is relevant is that 10 per cent of Australia’s army is stationed at Bandiana-Bonegilla and with your background they would love you as their representative.

    If you feel anything can be gained by coming to Wodonga to talk to us I am more than happy to organise airfares and accommodation for you and Mrs Newman.

    Yours Sincerely

    Lloyd Deane

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/campbell-newman-approached-to-stand-in-victorian-seat-of-indi-20150206-138czt.html

  123. TB Queensland permalink
    February 7, 2015 10:02 am

    And Mathias Cormann really helped the Libs on 7:30 Report … chortle … couldn’t/wouldn’t even describe the process should the spill motion succeed …

    Still cabinet ministers and the Libs’ whip keep saying they have “no rules” … and that in itself is disturbing surely?

  124. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 7, 2015 10:59 am

    The Libs will go with Turnbull before the election , but probably not on Tuesday

    The prospect of unemployment for many of those in marginal seats isn’t quite immediate enough

  125. February 7, 2015 11:05 am

  126. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 11:12 am

    ut probably not on Tuesday

    The temptation would be there to let him stew and take more blame for the bad economic news we are going to get but, if they wait too long, it will be difficult to determine just what other damage yabots stupidity could unleash.

    I was wondering whether anyone would notice

    I’m sure everyone noticed, but only one was conceited enough to brag about it 😉

    Imagine how quickly Libs would have fallen apart if they had to deal with a REAL economic crisis

    Yes, but we’ve got Headwinds AO, HEADWINDS!

    All the ALP had to contend with was a tsunami…………

    And looks like murdor has picked it’s candidate. Bad luck jules. But, he will be the most dangerous to Labor. Get the emails ready 😉

  127. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 7, 2015 11:19 am

    I like this article from waleed ali because it does get to the core of the coalition problems and to some extent the problems of labor before them. What’s the good of changing leaders if the stinking policies remain?

    Coalition needs a heart transplant, not a facelift:
    http://www.theage.com.au/comment/coalition-needs-a-heart-transplant-not-a-facelift-20150205-136hjx.html

    I think I’ll scream if I have to listen to abbott repeat himself one more time, his habit of doing that and the repetition of the same tired old messages completely turns me off from anything he says. “We are not labor, we are not labor” this morning as if we are children being told how to behave properly, when he is really sending a message to his own backbench. To us, his rabble is just the same as labor’s was. He is in his death throes and still seems incapable of offering any new thought.

  128. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 11:36 am

    One journo looks back and goes “Oh, look, he lied”

    Just another example of the protection racket they have run for him really

    There was so much focus on the significance of Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s National Press Club speech on Monday, and whether or not it would revive his fortunes, and its resemblance or otherwise to the Gettysburg Address (courtesy of a dry review given on Q&A by Agriculture Minister Barnaby Joyce), and how strong Abbott seemed during it, that we failed to really “process”, as the Americans say, what just happened.

    What happened was this: Abbott used Monday’s speech to formally snatch away the one piece of women-directed policy his government had offered. He gave nothing in return.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/paid-parental-leave-policy-ditched-did-the-women-of-australia-just-get-dudded-20150206-13607i.html

    Sorry, but there were many of “us” (not “we”) who knew the moment he uttered it that it was nothing more than a distraction and he had no intention of it ever seeing the light of day. His previous comments (and his history of lying) should have been the first clue that raised the flag. Last years budget should have been the final clue for this lot, yet they missed it even then. They still took him at his word, even though, daily, he proved it was not be trusted.

    The saddest thing is, because of the media’s’ 🙂 constant refusal to acknowledge that we already HAVE a PPL, I’m sure many of the voting public fail to know this fact also. Even this article only passingly mentions it, and then proceeds to leave the reader wondering if even that is gone now (is it?)

    The pretty little lady lawyer was set to benefit from the policy, no doubt. But so was the nurse and the teacher and the waitress and indeed, any woman who currently earns more than the minimum wage, which is what the current government scheme is set at.

    Now no woman, rich, poor or average, will benefit from it, because it doesn’t exist.

    I’m assuming she is talking about getting the additional benefit this lie dangled as its carrot. It’s hard to tell. But, the fact remains, this lie successfully diminished what Labor achieved, and is now dust, with barely a ‘by your leave’ in recognition of what Labor actually did achieve, or the fact that this could be seen from the get go as nothing more than political destruction from the ultimate political destructor.

    Sob off into yor nappy bag jacqueline O, too little, way too late. I’m sure yor employer has a substantial package for you anyway. It is your readers you have let down, yet again.

  129. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 7, 2015 11:39 am

  130. February 7, 2015 11:55 am

    “”Just another example of the protection racket they have run for him really””

    The 24 hour news cycle has killed off serious investigative journalism Tom..

    The only serious journo with any skill left is Kerry O’Brien and he’s semi-retired.

    Tis sad.

  131. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 7, 2015 12:07 pm

  132. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 7, 2015 12:27 pm

  133. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 12:32 pm

    Even poor old Piers gets a little freaked out over the crazies he attracts

    Is it strange that JJ sounds a lot in is writing like piers himself?

    The only thing we can take from that is that all at newsltd have the memo, tones is toast.

    I can’t wait for their hagiographies though.

    The carbon slayer shirtfronting the world.

  134. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 12:39 pm

    and he’s semi-retired.

    And I’m not convinced that is all his own idea either.

    Interesting that the abc got taken over with far right windbags like ulman and (yabots new media guy, name escapes me)

    First thing should Labor get back in is clean out the abc of any howard remnants. They should have done it last time. Just let the abc do what it used to. It might even force the others to play catch up.

  135. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 7, 2015 12:40 pm

    Why the rate cut exposes Abbott’s bigger mistakes:
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/2015/02/04/rate-cut-exposes-abbotts-bigger-mistakes/

    …In the lead-up to the 2013 election, a News Corp columnist with whom I worked at the time returned from a Coalition briefing and wrote: “If the Coalition win, they are planning a once-in-a-generation culture change for the nation. It’s never been attempted before.”

    With hindsight, it’s clear that it will never be attempted again…

  136. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 12:42 pm

    🙂

  137. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 7, 2015 12:44 pm

    …And I’m not convinced that is all his own idea either…

    Me neither tomR, I feel sure he was the main target with the lib takeover of the ABC.

    Is lateline coming back or has that been defunded to non existence too?

  138. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 7, 2015 12:46 pm

    So does all this reporting about Abbott’s debacle put paid to the notion that the media only puts the ALP to the sword?

  139. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 1:15 pm

    the media only puts the ALP to the sword?

    You mean that after running a protection racket for years, even they cannot ignore the massive failure that yabot is. Do we see front pages with “Chaos” or “Treachery”?

    Look at the one above, it is all positive. “Direct Action”

    Interestingly, the media used to say that Labor was ‘crippled’ with leadershit, when in reality, all it was was one lonely guy leaking to his chosen feeds, meanwhile, Government progressed in perhaps one of the most productive times we have seen recently. This mob though, they couldn’t pass anything they wanted before, now, they are truly gridlocked, and everything is on hold until they sort themselves out. And we get headlines with “Direct Action”

    Fucking really yomm, get a crowbar and jimmy your head out of where it is obviously lodged.

  140. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 1:17 pm

    KAPOW! The boot goes in!

    PRIME Minister Tony Abbott is again this week throwing his steely gaze directly upon Foreign Minister Julie Bishop but not just in the corridors of Canberra but 17000km away in a foyer in London.

    And his sudden re-emergence in the British capital has come just as his Coalition MPs and others this weekend question whether he is the man to remain the public face of the nation.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/prime-minister-tony-abbotts-portrait-displayed-opposite-julie-bishops-at-australian-high-commission-in-london/story-fncynjr2-1227211358837

  141. February 7, 2015 1:23 pm

    Off topic, but an article that Kittylitter might find interesting…

    It’s about the use of psychedelic drugs in the treatment of people with cancer or terminal illness…

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/09/trip-treatment

  142. February 7, 2015 1:24 pm

    “”So does all this reporting about Abbott’s debacle put paid to the notion that the media only puts the ALP to the sword?””

    Hmmm, not really..

  143. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 7, 2015 1:26 pm

    The media puts selling papers first and foremost, even if they have to make the ‘news’ and the controversy up themselves!

    Why the rate cut exposes Abbott’s bigger mistakes:
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/2015/02/04/rate-cut-exposes-abbotts-bigger-mistakes/

    …In the lead-up to the 2013 election, a News Corp columnist with whom I worked at the time returned from a Coalition briefing and wrote: “If the Coalition win, they are planning a once-in-a-generation culture change for the nation. It’s never been attempted before.”

    With hindsight, it’s clear that it will never be attempted again…

    Abbott burying his head in the quicksand:
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2015/02/07/abbott-burying-his-head-the-quicksand/14232276001459#.VNVz9tLQqSo

    …But a crucial message from Monday’s reset speech was, “Because we have done much of the hard work already, we won’t need to protect the Commonwealth budget at the expense of the household budget.” Labor says that’s because he has already staged his home invasion and cites the National Centre for Social and Economic Modelling, which says average families are $6000 a year worse off each and every year because the planned budget cuts were not a one-off…

    ……Significantly, Xenophon agrees with Labor’s Bill Shorten that the government’s malaise won’t be solved merely by changing the leader. Their ideological policy framework is just as big a problem, he says. “The Liberals need to shift to the political centre.”…

  144. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 7, 2015 1:35 pm

    “So does all this reporting about Abbott’s debacle put paid to the notion that the media only puts the ALP to the sword?

    The media has always favoured the ALP.

    We wasted $12B housing asylum seekers compared to nothing under Howard. But very few people said anything when ALP/Greens locked up more people than any govt in Australian history. Rudd/Gillard were economic vandals like all ALP govts.

    Abbott has only been in for 18 months but the 45% of the population who always vote Labor will not let him govern.

  145. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 7, 2015 1:40 pm

    Right.

    When Rudd continued to press his ambitions, leak to the media, lobby the backbench, it was all “baseless media speculation” . Proof of the bias against the ALP generally and Gillard specifically.

    Now that Abbott is unpopular and there is plenty of nervousness on his backbench about their future, apparently the media is now reporting the facts.

    Have I got that right?

  146. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 7, 2015 1:49 pm

    I find it interesting watching the ALP sharks in action.

    Fact is 45% of the population would never vote for the Coalition no matter how good they were for the country.

    Do any ALP supporters have a conscience?

  147. February 7, 2015 1:50 pm

  148. February 7, 2015 1:59 pm

    Suck it up Nils you and your overloads are utter immoral lying cunts…the people have spoken.
    Even there own party hate them.. moreover a leadership Kill than spill

    These fiscal fibbing vandals are done for.. people are over the lies and utter incompetence of these godbothering, monarchist, moralising fucktards…

    Only a complete moron would support and defend these policy deficient rhetorical knob cheese factory.

    It may well be the Fiberal with Noalition

    The chickens are coming home to roast Roost

  149. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 2:24 pm

    it was all “baseless media speculation”

    For two fucking years!!!

    It’s pretty fucking baseless. Without the media feeding his frenzy, he’d have nothing. All the media showed was that one malcontent and a moralless media can cause untold damage to a political party if they want.

    The media haven’t LED this, voter dissatisfaction and the blatantly obvious inabilities have caused this, the media is following along, and maintaining the “Direct” and “steely” keywords in place of “Chaos” and “dysfunction”

    If you don’t think the media is biased against Labor, read nIls Bizarro world comments. The truth is generally about 180 degrees from his position.

  150. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 7, 2015 2:24 pm

    What the Coalition needs is somebody who can sell the budget.

    They need someone who can tell the world that the ALP are economic vandals and that we are in big trouble if we do not get back to surplus.

    Cain/Kirner, Keating, Brian Burke, Beattie/Bilgh et al all trashed the budget.

    The ALP only cares about buying votes by borrowing money from China and splashing it around to everybody.

    People need to be told we are cactus if the economic vandals of the ALP ever get back in.

  151. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 7, 2015 3:09 pm

    I see. So when the media reports the now proven fact that a former leader still had leadership ambitions, that bias.

    But when they report that a leader is in trouble and unpopular , that may or may not be bias. Depending on which leader they’re reporting about.

  152. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 3:37 pm

    So when the media reports the now proven fact that a former leader still had leadership ambitions, that bias.

    I think even I understood back then that rudd had “leadership ambitions”. But, I’m under the impression that EVERY politician has “leadership ambitions”. It is the nature of the game.

    What was proven to be not only speculation but factually inaccurate was the constant stories of “counting” and imminent “spills” that carried on for over two fucking years and only finally came to a head when the party itself realised that the only possible way to shut them all up was to have a fucking spill. But by then, there was nothing but “speculation”, to the detriment of all else.

    That’s the media being made a patsy off, and they loved it.

    It was the lowest ebb of our media’s history. Let’s hope it never sinks back that far again. And the first step to returning it back to some semblance of journalism rather than churnalism is to get the ABC back to adhering to it’s charter.

  153. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 3:42 pm

    Another article highlighting the medias total lack of self awareness (ignorance, blindness)

    HOW on earth did it come to this? pvo asks.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/long-life-in-politics-and-still-no-lessons-learnt/story-fn53lw5p-1227211011598

    Perhaps I can offer up some possibilities ovpete.

    The first that springs to mind is, when someone is an opposition leader vying for a position of country leader, try asking them some questions, and chasing them up if they refuse to answer, instead of just going ‘oh, that’s our tones, look at him on his bike now”

    Another one would be to deliver us with more facts, less ‘opinion’ We get you lot don’t like Labor. But, must everything you write about them drip with contempt? It feeds into your readers opinions (but then again, that’s the aim isn’t it). And, it allows you to miss (perhaps deliberately) major clangours from their opponents.

    But mainly, when someone does, promises or denies something, ask them WHY? I was under the impression this was one of the tenants of journalism. A profession that has been found seriously wanting in recent years. The question itself can offer up many insights even if it is not answered (in fact, it can sometimes offer up more then)

    And pvo is a guy who has been labelled recently as “openly hostile” to yabot. Even the openly hostile wonder whatever went wrong that such a “talent” could fall so low. FAAARK. Get a mirror churnalists, and start at the sauce! He was a fucken loser from the get go, I don’t believe that they could have missed that.

  154. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 3:44 pm

    They need someone who can tell the world that the ALP are economic vandals

    They’ve been trying that line on since at least since Keating lost. You don’t think it is past it’s used by date yet?

    The biggest problem is, the facts don’t always support the story.

    Maybe try a different budget that doesn’t attack the poor, feed the rich, and do nothing for the bottom line except worsen it. That would be my starting point.

  155. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 7, 2015 4:14 pm

    “They’ve been trying that line on since at least since Keating lost. You don’t think it is past it’s used by date yet?”

    Nope it is always fresh and new. I forgot to mention Rudd/Gillard.

    The ALP ALWAYS trashes the budget.

    Fact is i think we are stuffed. I don’t think anybody can get us out of the runaway debt started by Rudd/Gillard.

  156. February 7, 2015 4:34 pm

    “So does all this reporting about Abbott’s debacle put paid to the notion that the media only puts the ALP to the sword?”

    I believe it’s further evidence that ‘tabloid’ media, even the monopolist Murdochian kind (in fact, especially the monopolist Murdochian kind) is a weathervane which swings in the prevailing clickbait direction.

  157. February 7, 2015 4:36 pm

    Neil, you are a broken fucking record, my friend.

    I do mean that in a semi-caring way.

    If you are ‘real’ I tend to feel sorry for you, because you’re so easily lead astray & you (pretend?) seem to have ‘everyone’s’ best interests at heart.

    Either that, or you’re a shill playing dumb. I’m prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt on that one.

  158. February 7, 2015 4:42 pm

    I think Rupert has an inherent conservative bias…and his ‘special’ columnists can ‘sense’ his intent, but I think they latch onto whatsoever may be their idea of the current newscycle. I’m sure a lot of them are predisposed towards hoping the ALP fail, but, even in the last few weeks notable individuals have been going after Abbott.

    So…in brief, I’m not a big fan of conspiracy theories. They remind me of conservative squirting against the ABC.
    Polemic bilge.

    If your ‘side’ is fucked, blaming the media is a monumental easy copout.

    The media only controls public opinion to a certain degree nowadays.

  159. February 7, 2015 4:47 pm

    Fact is 45% of the population would never vote for the ALP no matter how good they were for the country.

    Do you even think before you post, Neil?

    You are blinded by your bias.

  160. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 7, 2015 5:00 pm

    “Do you even think before you post, Neil?”

    Yep.

    But Labor ALWAYS trashes the budget. So my conscience is clear.

  161. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 7, 2015 5:06 pm

    “…Either that, or you’re a shill playing dumb. I’m prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt…”

    I wouldn’t bother, he’s definitely a shill playing dumb. Look at all his commenting history.

    The only question is whether he’s getting paid for it!

  162. February 7, 2015 5:14 pm

    “But Labor ALWAYS trashes the budget.”

    And, presumably you assume that the Coalition ALWAYS fixes the budget? You clearly haven’t paid attention since they’ve had the chance to do so…oh, hang on…LaborLaborLabor, convenient excuses for blaming everything on the ALP in perpetuity & never holding the other ‘orrible lot to account. Like I said, broken fucking record…devoid of worthy content after I’ve read the noteworthy parts the first time.

    Moron.

  163. February 7, 2015 5:20 pm

    9 ply used toilet paper… Shit on each sheet

    I forgot to mention Rudd/Gillard

    Really Nils?

    The ALP ALWAYS trashes the budget.

    Fact is i think we are stuffed. I don’t think anybody can get us out of the runaway debt started perpetuated and compounded by Rudd/Gillard Hokey

    Yeah I know how you feel….. As always the Fiberals perpetuate the lie of economic prudential governance whilst history shows their true wrath, fiscally fist fucking our fortunate position with incessant intergenerational incompetence wrapped in outright lies.

  164. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 5:38 pm

    The only question is whether he’s getting paid for it!

    Nobody that good at playing dumb would be bright enough to get paid for it.

    Wow Ricky, the Oz used the word “crisis” and libs. That’s huge. The stories inside are a rear guard action, lipstick applied liberally, but, to have that on the front page….

    Like tb said, clickbait in the deli/milk bar window

    Still waiting for “Chaos” or “dysfunction”, as it is quite obvious there is a crisis going on in the heart of the heartless

  165. February 7, 2015 6:02 pm

  166. February 7, 2015 6:06 pm

    Win or lose…I think AbbottCorp is irrevocably damaged, by its own hand.

    Especially if it presses on with its “Labor wrecked everything, ergo we are going to demolish public healthcare, education & Industrial Relations” mantra…

    Can’t see the wood for the fucking trees…exhibit A, Kneel of Sydney, willing coprophagist…

  167. February 7, 2015 6:07 pm

    Loving the #I’mstickingwithtony hastag.. some piss funny stuff

  168. February 7, 2015 6:09 pm

  169. TB Queensland permalink
    February 7, 2015 6:12 pm

    TONY Abbott has moved to stare down backbench dissidents, warning their spill motion will fail and he’ll take that as an endorsement of his leadership.

    … He said the current situation was never about him but about delivering good government …

    … Tasmanian Liberal MP Andrew Nikolic, an Abbott loyalist, said he had become something of a lightning rod for discussion of the leadership, talking to a significant number of fellow Liberals.

    You’d think a Taswegian pollie would understand just what the LNP Budget would do to his electorate … blinded by ideology – all of them …

    I hope the spill fails too … the more people realise just how awful this PM is and the cronies that support him … the more will vote the boofheads out at the next election …

    A landslide ALP government should still be able to put humpty dumpty together again after two years of rotting in LNP hell …

  170. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 6:19 pm

    Just what WAS in our “free trade” agreements?

    There is concern in Tokyo that if Mr Abbott is deposed as Prime Minister, the Coalition’s enthusiasm to buy submarines from Japan will wane, reviving the hopes of Germany, France and Sweden, which want an open competition for the project.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/japan-fears-25bn-submarine-deal-at-risk-in-tony-abbott-crisis/story-e6frg8yo-1227211135322

    Just noticed your post above too Ricky

  171. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 6:23 pm

    The Abbott government’s most fav­oured option to replace the ageing ­Collins class with a Japanese sub­marine has been rejected by a ­parliamentary inquiry.

    http://www.afr.com/p/inquiry_rejects_inadequate_japanese_8NgzqF3RHHOhv81ddQenDL

    Australia is considering buying 10 state-of-the-art Soryu class submarines from Japan, at a reported price of more than $20 billion.

    But Japanese military insiders have warned that it will cost much more.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-15/japanese-concerns-over-submarine-deal/5743022

    So yabot has over priced our build, and under priced the Japanese. In short, he LIED to us, again.

    Despite some stuff-ups and cost blowouts, we must continue to build submarines in Adelaide if we’re to invest in our national security

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-27/mayfield-this-is-one-manufacturing-industry-we-must-protect/5919872

    Australian Jobs. Will the new #teamwhaoever care about them more than #teamyabot

    I know they couldn’t care less than #teamyabot.

  172. Tom R permalink
    February 7, 2015 6:28 pm

  173. TB Queensland permalink
    February 7, 2015 7:14 pm

    TR, … you know nuthin’ … the adults are in charge …. GUFFAW!

  174. February 7, 2015 7:15 pm

  175. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 7, 2015 7:19 pm

    What do they all have in common?

    Leadership style cruels tony Abbott, Campbell Newman and co:

    http://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2015/02/07/leadership-style-cruels-tony-abbott-campbell-newman-and-co/14232276001465#.VNXKFck_7qA

  176. February 7, 2015 7:21 pm

  177. February 7, 2015 7:43 pm

    I hope PM-MAMIL knows what he’s doing, for queen & country, his place in history depends upon it!

    Nowhere to go from here…except, eventually, unto the great biomass.

  178. February 7, 2015 7:59 pm

    #ImStickingWithTony because we should look to our ruthless MAMILs to tell us #godisreal & #rupertisntsantaanymore.

  179. TB Queensland permalink
    February 7, 2015 7:59 pm

    … because it takes a terrorist to know a terrorist #auspol …

    Shirtfronter to shirtfronter … *

    (*Disclaimer – Shirtfronter is a Mexican term … Queenslanders have recently been made aware of its meaning …)

  180. TB Queensland permalink
    February 7, 2015 8:12 pm

    LAWRENCE Springborg says Queensland’s LNP will show more empathy and compassion under his leadership but he isn’t backing down on plans to lease assets.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/lnp-to-vote-on-new-qld-leader/story-e6frfku9-1227211229962

    LOL! Hypocrisy writ large … LOL! … and you lost the election WHY?

    Thick as bricks …

    Its actually becoming quite sickening …

    WE ARE NOT THE 51st STATE OF AMERICA …

    Australians don’t cop the BULLSHIT words … show us with actions …

    Its 2015!

    Imagine this BS a hundred years ago! The Turks would never have had to defend their country !

    The fighting would be here!

    I heard today that The Mad Abbott has a STRONG Plan! Do these twits never learn?

    Do they understand the meaning of the word EMPATHY?

    As the original Diggers would say, “What a bunch of DRONGOs!

  181. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 7, 2015 8:15 pm

  182. February 7, 2015 8:17 pm

  183. TB Queensland permalink
    February 7, 2015 8:25 pm

    RP, a good reason to shut down .. nightclubs earlier … I know we are repeating Nero’s burning but we don’t have to return there …

    fkn stupido …

  184. February 7, 2015 8:26 pm

    Ok, so the #ImStickingWithTony thing is going exponentially mental with ridicule for AbbottCorp.

    Quite a wave of mocking he’s released upon himself via electronic social graffiti.

    Most of it is highly amusing.

  185. February 7, 2015 8:42 pm
  186. February 7, 2015 8:44 pm
  187. February 7, 2015 9:18 pm

  188. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 7, 2015 9:55 pm

    “Do they understand the meaning of the word EMPATHY?”

    What to do when Beattie/Bligh created more debt than NSW and Victoria combined.

    I have come to the conclusion that Labor/greens supporters are psychopaths.

    You do not care about people. You would rather have a trashed economy than having a surplus budget.

    PS. Labor ALWAYS trashes the budget because the ALP does not care about people. The ALP uses people.

  189. TB Queensland permalink
    February 7, 2015 11:13 pm

    Shriller an’ shriller …

  190. February 8, 2015 3:38 am

    have come to the conclusion that Labor/greens supporters are psychopaths.
    You do not care about people. You would rather have a trashed economy than having a surplus budget.

    And this toll is such a caring and sharing individual with comments like that ROTFPML

  191. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 8:46 am

    I am now convinced that this LNP government is dead in the water … the Mary Deare of politics …

    No matter what they do or say the public will simply switch off …

    In the case of Rudd/Gillard/Rudd people just waited for the opportunity to say what they thought at the ballot box and moved on …

    If this government continues as is the same will happen. In fact people already have switched off.

    Newman had the same problem.

    So we will simply endure the wrecking ball for two years and the LNP will be decimated at the polls … or they go back to the people now (a double dissolution) and they lose by a lesser margin …

    The one thing that this government has failed to understand is that Australians are not English Conservatives … the are Australians who live in one of the most beautiful but uncompromising countries in the world … we are still isolated even in the modern world … we need to support each other to survive …

    This government is divisive in the extreme .. rich and poor … parents, children and grandparents … city and rural … refugees … Aboriginals … men and women …

    One all embracing issue will kill/has killed this government … ruthless ideology … no matter the leader … or his/her cabinet …

    Just what did happen to the Australian values I embraced as a child … was proud to be part of as a young man … and wish for today …

  192. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 9:00 am

    Seems the polls would indicate the same …

    JUST one in three voters want Tony Abbott to stay on as prime minister but even with Malcolm Turnbull as leader the coalition would still trail Labor at an election, a new poll shows.

    THE Galaxy poll found 55 per cent of voters thought Mr Abbott should stand down and only 35 per cent believed he should stay on, with 10 per cent undecided.

    The poll, published by News Corp Australia on Sunday, indicated that if Mr Turnbull was prime minister he would save the Liberal Party seats, delivering a two-party preferred split of 51 per cent for Labor versus 49 per cent for the coalition.

    When asked if they expected Mr Abbott to lead the party to the next election, 63 per cent of voters polled said they did not expect he would still be leader.

    The poll showed that Mr Turnbull as prime minister would lift the coalition’s primary vote from 36 to 42 per cent.

    When asked how they would vote if Julie Bishop was leader, the coalition’s primary vote increased to 39 per cent.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/poll-shows-one-in-three-want-abbott-as-pm/story-e6frfku9-1227211871435

  193. February 8, 2015 9:20 am

    “”No matter what they do or say the public will simply switch off …””

    I agree!

    For the main reason that they still dont get the fact that the public hate their policies and everything they stand for.

    So far, all they’ve done is blame the public for being “volatile” (whatever that is) and for failing to “sell their message” or for failing “bring the public along with them.”

    They think the public are mugs to be manipulated like sheeple, but they fail to appreciate is that the public understand perfectly well what they’re up to and they don’t want a bar of it.

    They’re fucked.

  194. February 8, 2015 9:24 am

    The more I think about it, the more I think that Abbott will survive the spill on Tuesday, for the simple fact there are too many born to rule hate-filled nasty bastards in the LNP.

    The true face of the LNP isn’t Malcolm Turnbull it’s someone like Christopher Pyne.

  195. February 8, 2015 9:32 am

    Tuesday is now Monday Abbott is in a panic …. begging for his skin

  196. February 8, 2015 9:37 am

    “important to end the uncertainty” or “important to avoid the Newspoll due out Tuesday morning…’

  197. February 8, 2015 9:40 am

  198. February 8, 2015 10:07 am

  199. February 8, 2015 10:08 am

    It sounds like MT found out about Abbott’s decision to move the meeting on Monday, and so used the opportunity to take a swipe at him…

    “”Earlier before Mr Abbott announced he would bring the party room meeting forward to Monday, likely leadership contender Malcolm Turnbull praised the Prime Minister for holding the meeting on Tuesday.

    “He’s also, I think, shown great respect for the party room by saying that the meeting will be on Tuesday which is the normal party room meeting,” Mr Turnbull said outside his Sydney home on Sunday morning.

    “The virtue of having it on Tuesday – I know Tony Abbott very well, he is a good friend of mine, that’s why he has said the meeting will be on Tuesday because he knows members coming to Canberra, who will be getting lots of phone calls, talking to constituents, many of which will be uncertain, will want to have the opportunity to sit down and talk to each other in the nation’s capital in the course of that Monday leading up to the Tuesday.”

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/liberal-party-room-to-meet-on-monday-morning-to-vote-on-spill-motion-20150207-138tos.html

  200. February 8, 2015 10:09 am

  201. February 8, 2015 10:10 am

  202. February 8, 2015 10:24 am

    Talcum:

    “”So Tony has really done the right thing in saying, consistent with tradition when I was the leader, it should really be a secret ballot. And he’s also, I think, shown great respect for the party room by saying that the meeting should be on Tuesday, which is the normal party room meeting. Now that’s very significant because again you’ve had people in the press saying it’s going to be brought forward to Monday in a rush. The virtue of having it Tuesday, and I know Tony Abbott very well you know he’s a good friend of mine. And this is why he has said in Townsville it will be on Tuesday because he knows that members coming to Canberra, who will have been getting lots of phone calls and talking to constituents and many of which will be uncertain, will want to have the opportunity to sit down and talk to each other in the nation’s capital, in the course of that Monday leading up to the Tuesday.””

    http://www.malcolmturnbull.com.au/media/liberal-party

  203. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 10:28 am

    Abbott, good guy, not perfect but no case for rebellion. Remember last one gave us Gillard disaster. Country still paying for it. Rupert Mordoch

    What’s this … gave US … shite? Since when to American citizens have voting rights in Australia … talk about two bites of the cherry … having your cake and eat it …

    I saw the Turnbull interview (he was “just” going for a walk) … and the comments re the Monday meeting move were flashed up on the screen as MT was saying how “noice” The Mad Abbott was … hilarious …

  204. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 8, 2015 10:33 am

    Insiders

    mathias cormann: “no minister have ever said to me the budget is unfair”

    barry: “what does that say to you about their political antenna?

    cormann raves on about inherited budget situation and implementing policies they took to election, stopped the boats, need to listen learn and adjust. Labor labor labor

    “had unfortunate economic headwinds”

    #just refuse to ‘get it’

  205. February 8, 2015 10:39 am

  206. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 8, 2015 10:39 am

  207. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 8, 2015 10:52 am

    Abbott’s doing well with his new consultative and conclusive approach isnt he?

    Liberal MPs slam Tony Abbott’s decision to bring spill motion forward:
    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/liberal-mps-slam-tony-abbotts-decision-to-bring-spill-motion-forward-20150207-138u9b.html

    …Liberal senator Arthur Sinodinos has publicly criticised Prime Minster Tony Abbott’s decision to bring forward a party room vote on the leadership to Monday.

    In a stinging rebuke to Mr Abbott, Senator Sinodinos, who served as chief of staff to former prime minister John Howard for a decade, also suggested Foreign Minister Julie Bishop had not been consulted…

    Abbott’s presser after bringing forward the spill to monday
    labor labor labor, can’t look like labor

    walk out, refuse to answer questions

  208. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 8, 2015 11:03 am

    phillip coorey [no paywall]

    Leadership spill: Tony Abbott sets Monday vote as Malcolm Turnbull looms:
    http://www.afr.com/p/national/politics/leadership_spill_tony_abbott_sets_YElyo5RkibFXKYyaMOXyIP

    Mr Abbott told reporters the “best thing we can do is deal with the spill motion as quickly as possible and put it behind us”…

    …Queensland MP Teresa Gambaro said the decision was consistent with the internal “culture of fear and intimidation” under Mr Abbot’s leadership.

    “And that is the unacceptable situation we have endured for the past five years,’’ she said…

    …Meanwhile, Senate leader Eric Abetz denied reports in the Sunday papers that he had been trying to broker a compromise in which Mr Abbott would stay on as leader if Mr Turnbull replaced Joe Hockey as Treasurer…

  209. February 8, 2015 11:05 am

  210. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 11:07 am

    So many absent-minded voters in Queensland …

    NEWLY elected Liberal National Party leader Lawrence Springborg says Queenslanders need experience, not an “accidental” Labor government.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/springborg-warns-of-accidental-alp-govt/story-e6frfku9-1227211951104

    What is it with this arrogant attitude?

  211. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 11:09 am

    Amazing … seems the conclusions I reached while on my morning walk … and written above are being confirmed by the minute …

    Although I think many of us knew we were headed this way after the first budget …

  212. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 8, 2015 11:23 am

  213. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 8, 2015 11:44 am

    …Turnbull: “He’s made a captain’s call to bring the vote forward to Monday”. Ouch. Malspeak for “He’s still the same prick”…

    Yep, he’s pointing out abbott’s continual lying and refusal to listen to his ‘team’. Comes after the pointed remarks about how the PM was doing the right thing to have secret ballot and the spill on tues to allow MP’s to gather and talk etc

    Mal is having a bit of fun isn’t he?

    I had a thought. Is it possible that everything stays the same after the spill and the girl cops it, would credlin’s scalp appease the backbenchers or would it be too little too late?

  214. February 8, 2015 11:53 am

    l wanna see more of the train-wreck #ImStickingWithTony

    +

    Well trashers, hasn`t this week been absolutely delicious as the teabags turn on their zombie-in-chief. l have also noticed that sbs and my abc news-staff have reported the #libspill in an enthusiastic and up-beat manner. There is much enjoyment of the `irony` among staff and management in ultimo over #libspill too.

    Currently, teabag-media are perched outside mr-talkbulls home, and flock him with continual `leadership`/`spill` questions, like sea-gulls on a chip, and reduced mr-takbull to bumbling blather. lt probably hasn`t helped that qld-alp have just confirmed `majority` govt, at end of `recount`. #shh-blib

  215. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 8, 2015 12:02 pm

    HD might understand, I had 2 surfboards stolen from the car last night.

    There are some real c**ts around.

  216. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 8, 2015 12:27 pm

    lt probably hasn`t helped that qld-alp have just confirmed `majority` govt, at end of `recount`. #shh-blib

    Is that the latest bagz?
    Last I saw the LNP were trying to make a run with springborg and the katters. Wellington was supporting labor. They were talking of a byelection to decide in ferny hills. Has it changed now?

  217. public toilet permalink
    February 8, 2015 12:31 pm

    Yes, there are.

  218. public toilet permalink
    February 8, 2015 12:32 pm

    *reply to YomM

  219. public toilet permalink
    February 8, 2015 12:35 pm

    Abbott doing an amazing job of shitting in his own nest, removing doubt from all but those who are utterly beholden to his fortunes (cough, hockey ).

  220. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 8, 2015 12:50 pm

    Thanks PT. Both nice boards too

  221. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 12:56 pm

    lt probably hasn`t helped that qld-alp have just confirmed `majority` govt, at end of `recount`. #shh-blib

    Tbagz … do you have any evidence for that?

    Just saw KL’s comment … I can’t find anything?

  222. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 12:58 pm

    Sympathies here, ToM … (you may recall our burglary in 2011)

    BTQ, I ‘d like to see a photo of you on them – do you tie them together?

  223. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 1:01 pm

    * A Galaxy poll, published on Sunday, has Labor leading the coalition 57-43 per cent. With Turnbull as PM, the margin narrows to 51-49 per cent.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/liberal-leadership-the-story-so-far/story-e6frfku9-1227211995204

  224. February 8, 2015 1:02 pm

    ””””””lt probably hasn`t helped that qld-alp have just confirmed `majority` govt, at end of `recount`. #shh-blib .. .. .. .. Is that the latest bagz?””””

    FFS, now they`re blathering that the `election-commission` have NOT confirmed this. Why the fcuk do teabag-media fill their space with fcuking `estimates` at this stage. So much blather, with no NEW info. #sorry #my.fcuking.abc24

  225. February 8, 2015 1:22 pm

    on #abc24, john hewson reckons spill will fail, mr-rabbit in opposition did a great job tearing down govt, but has failed to `become` a govt leader and solve problems

    +

    #l`m not sure the guy that lost the `unlosable`, .. knows what .. .. he`s talking .. about! .. Mr-rabbit is portrayed as a wrecker, and `wrecked` the other govt, he didn`t, they wrecked themselves. Mr-rabbit is just a buffoon, and his ideas, management, policies and other general abilities reflect that.

  226. February 8, 2015 1:35 pm

    Sorry to hear about the surfboards Tom, that’s s real bugger..

  227. public toilet permalink
    February 8, 2015 2:50 pm

    Surfboards aren’t cheap, and you tend to get attached to favourites too.

    Do you remember your movements last night Robert Allenby YomM?

  228. February 8, 2015 3:38 pm

    the qld electoral commission website sux TB, doesn`t say where the `count` is .. actually .. up .. to, so it seems .. we .. are stuck getting .. shitty info off .. teabag-media

    +

    ps .. anybody wanna buy .. a 2nd-hand surf-board .. .. two colors available

  229. February 8, 2015 4:11 pm

    How many fins?

    If it’s the board(s) I’m imagining, they’re 12ft single fins with fearful clawmarks on the rails & stains of defecation which could never be properly cleaned off after suspected sightings of large omnivorous ocean predators. 🙂 haha

  230. February 8, 2015 4:19 pm

    This one is GOLD!

  231. February 8, 2015 4:19 pm

    I just noticed, strangely, my ‘public’ gravatar is almost inversely proportional to my ‘kosher’ gravatar.

    Lucky I don’t believe in the supernatural or I may find that portentous.

    So, anyway, I reckon there’ll be a few announcements this afternoon shedding a bit more obscurity on the fate of Anthony (lookatmystagemanagedappearanceatchinatownthepublicloveme #ruddesque) Abbott. From his ‘colleagues’.

    Politics has become interesting again. I have tomorrow off, as coincidence would have it. Voyeurism at the Coalition Colosseum; governmental bloodletting, from ‘the adults’ no less!

  232. February 8, 2015 4:22 pm

    That really is the hashtag that keeps on giving. I’m sure the two beleeberz are sooo glad they started that ball rolling! Guffaw!

    #overwhelmedbytheirowngraffiti

    I actually went and created a political twatter account just so I could watch.

  233. February 8, 2015 4:32 pm

    Watch Yony Yabbott disappear up his own arse! wonder at the magnitude of the fall! React in amazement that so many knew he was an total arsehat many, many years ago.

  234. February 8, 2015 4:38 pm

    “Abbott had been absorbed and projected right to the front of the machine. Power was just over the horizon and Abbott’s task was to deliver it for the party and the base and the backers. The IPA crowd once mocked and disdained Abbott for his lack of ideological commitment. The Mad Monk worshipped at the wrong altar. He was remnant Democratic Labour party – a soft-headed person who had told John Howard that WorkChoices was a mistake, who’d once confessed boredom with economics.”

    Hmmmmm…

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/feb/08/how-liberal-party-machine-swallowed-tony-abbott

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Public_Affairs

  235. February 8, 2015 4:40 pm

    Sorry about the boards, ToM. The facts suggest it was surfers wot dunnit. (They can’t be trusted.)

  236. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 4:58 pm

    See what happens when you give police invasive powers …

    Man probed after suspicious death in Qld

    http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/womans-body-found-in-queensland-home/story-e6frfku9-1227211889206

  237. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 4:59 pm

    As for gravatars none of mine seem to work anymore … and I’m stuck with fkn Mexican blue!

  238. February 8, 2015 5:06 pm

    Yes, TB, ‘conservatives’ are caught between ‘fweedom’ & ‘we want to be contwolled & kept safe’.

    Poor dears.

  239. February 8, 2015 5:25 pm

    Nice poison symbol.

    I knew you were toxic!

  240. February 8, 2015 5:26 pm

    while not `probed`, scotland-plod still managed to be `over-anal` #catching.tewwa.fearists http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2940083/Police-wrongly-imprison-innocent-man-three-days-kept-pointing-different-suspect.html

    +

    the canberra press-pack seem to be having quite a bit of fun molesting the zombies at canberra airport as they arrive for tomorrows spill-vote

  241. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 5:28 pm

    Tbagz, KL and other interested persons …

    “The existence of a candidate who is a disqualified person and who receives votes for an election raises an issue concerning the validity of the result, which must be resolved by the Court of Disputed Returns,” the ECQ statement read.

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/queenslanders-to-know-new-premier-on-tuesday-night-20150208-1391qo.html

    I like the “issue of concern” re “validity” … I’d say it raises an issue of concern re the ECQ … or do they trust wannabe pollies to be “honest” with their applications …

    I also heard a discussion on radio that some voters had been turned away because they did not have the new ECQ ID letter/tag – they were not given a stat dec opportunity …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You’ll notice too that I went back and had another attempt to change my gravatar … seems I had checked the PG box instead of the G box …

    With RP and sb commenting here it should X rated … 🙂

  242. February 8, 2015 5:28 pm

    It’s their ‘job’.

    #feedderpclickbait

  243. February 8, 2015 5:30 pm

    I try to keep it MA15+ here (apart from my florid language). 😉

  244. February 8, 2015 5:31 pm

  245. February 8, 2015 5:39 pm

    previous scoffing by team-nanny-roxon .. better not .. read this

    ””””””””””HM Revenue and Customs estimates that in 2012-13 the UK economy lost £1.6bn as a result of illicit tobacco. Nine per cent of all cigarettes and 36% of all rolling tobacco smoked in this country is believed to be illicit. There are fears that the widespread availability of illegal tobacco products will undermine efforts to reduce smoking prevalence by making smoking more affordable and accessible. http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2015/02/06/18000-illegal-cigarettes-seized-in-shropshire/

    ”””””””””””””””””

    #for those with some remaining sanity and NOT team-cheerers, why isn`t our teabag-media reporting this here.? do you `really` think it aint going-on here.?

  246. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 8, 2015 5:40 pm

  247. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 5:41 pm

    Nice poison symbol.

    Yeah, I thought the black and white was well too black and white …

    And after my edification in all things artistic by ToSY I actually looked at blue and orange/yellow … bloody teddy bears ‘n’ shite …

    I hadn’t realised how many gravatars I’d used … might put a Australian Rising Sun badge up for April … 😉

  248. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 8, 2015 5:43 pm

  249. February 8, 2015 5:43 pm

    Maybe it’s all just a Tony Arsehat masterstroke? calling out Turnbull, exposing him to the sunlight, then destroying him?

    *Boltian logic

    **nothing to do with being a regressive bunch of out of touch graffiti removers who believe in skyfables & master/slave rationalisations…

  250. February 8, 2015 5:44 pm

    reb @ 5:31

    funny…and true

  251. February 8, 2015 5:56 pm

    I’ve done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing.

    # IVIeta

  252. February 8, 2015 6:05 pm

    ”””””’it raises an issue of concern re the ECQ””#ditto .. couldn`t agree more .. .. sounds like they`re heading for a pauline rerun

    +

    ””””””discussion on radio that some voters had been turned away because”””’ #speaking of `reruns` .. .. .. florida-2000 .. did team-noddy manage to infect the electoral system with the two worst examples of .. .. democracy.

  253. February 8, 2015 6:43 pm

    Unfortunately (for them) Team Noddy/Abbott et al voters are in the Now.

  254. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 6:49 pm

    Fair call … Tbagz … and speaking of Bush … have you noticed the “hierarchy of kings mentality” within political families … JBP and JBP are prime examples although neither JBP was terribly bright … JBP senior was a devious minded prick (as was his missus) … junior is still sucking his dummy!

  255. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 8, 2015 6:50 pm

    Originals, surfing is semential

    http://www.rastasurfboards.com.au/Rasta/FiftyYears.aspx

  256. February 8, 2015 7:15 pm

    I fucking hate</I. political dynasty(ie)s!

    Only in AMerica?

    But, seriously. No fucken way!

  257. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 7:45 pm

    Originals, surfing is semential

    Insured, TOM?

    (I’m guessing irreplaceable anyway?)

  258. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 8, 2015 8:05 pm

    No TB. The shape of surfboards has changed (for the better) over the past couple of decades. I have a couple of collectors items, but I don’t take them into the water often.

    But the surf coast is a unique manufacturing area, and some of the shapers have been applying their craft for a few decades, they do a great job and there is nowhere else like it.

    I can just see you on a custom made Bob Mactavish longboard! Get one fast!!\

    http://theconversation.com/once-a-cultural-icon-is-australias-surfboard-industry-destined-to-disappear-7001

  259. TB Queensland permalink
    February 8, 2015 8:55 pm

    I can just see you on a custom made Bob Mactavish longboard! Get one fast!!\

    Never been my scene … used to have a lot of fun on the NSW/GC in the band tho’ … in the late 60’s …

    On Saturday night we’d play at The Scene in Adelaide St, Brissy then drive to The Bowl in South Brisbane, then back to The Scene and finish there (that meant guitars and amps in two cars – I’d use the kit at The Bowl so just sticks for me) …

    … we’d get home about 1:30 am, take the amps out – leave the guitars in the cars, clean up and drive to Cabarita (NSW), sleep in the cars …

    … Sunday morning we’d drive up the coast and enter every Talent Quest we saw … we usually won at least one sometimes two … great fun and paid for the trip …

    Get home around six … have dinner, shower, hit the sack!

    Ah, memories … so while I didn’t surf, I ended up knowing a lot of surfers! (Which was very useful on the occasions some wanker(s) decided they wanted to take the band on!)

    Have you any “guesses” where the boards may be?

  260. February 8, 2015 9:45 pm

  261. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2015 8:33 am

    Have you any “guesses” where the boards may be?

    Cash Convertors

    Sorry to hear about the boards yomm. Hope you get them back, sometimes the cops get lucky.

    I wonder if a local would be dumb enough to take them back out from the same place they went missing from?

    D-day for the libs? Or the beginning of a long nightmare.

    Anyway, I’m parking my vote behind yabot. At least his uselessness protects the country from the abomination of the policies. Someone with a touch of talent might get them through 😦

  262. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2015 8:45 am

    A bit of well deserved (imo) gloating.

    THAT FOUL SMELL is not coming from the Liberal Party. The stench of hypocrisy, worsening by the hour, is from Australia’s mainstream media — newspapers and electronic media run by Fairfax, Murdoch and the ABC.

    Those “news” outlets are now telling their customers what alternative publications have been saying for years — that the Federal Coalition does not have the leader, the team, the vision, the policies or competence in economics to govern.

    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/about-tony-abbott-we-hate-to-say-we-told-you-so-,7348

  263. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 9, 2015 8:51 am

    And, presumably you assume that the Coalition ALWAYS fixes the budget? You clearly haven’t paid attention since they’ve had the chance to do so…oh, hang on…

    Moron.

    Moron? I am not the one in a burst of morality got rid of the Pacific Solution.

    In a orgy of chest beating the ALP claimed how moral they were.

    This lead to 1-2 thousand drownings, 50,000 boat arrivals and a cost of $12B housing all these people.

    $12B is what the F-35’s are going to cost.

    It also lead to tens of thousands of people from UNHCR camps being denied a place in Australia and replaced by people with $10,000.

    You lot talk about fairness but it is not fair you can buy a place in our humanitarian program.

    It will take 5-10 years to fix the budget mess that Rudd/Gillard created if it is capable of being fixed at all.

    Most Labor policies do not work.

  264. February 9, 2015 9:07 am

  265. February 9, 2015 9:11 am

  266. February 9, 2015 9:11 am

  267. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2015 9:22 am

    Prime minister Barnaby Joyce says thanks with a present for Cory Bernadi.

    ROFL

  268. February 9, 2015 9:22 am

    More than 40% of Abbotts Party room hate him…as opposed to over 70% or the electorate.

  269. February 9, 2015 9:35 am

    They’re sticking with Tony! Hooray!

  270. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 9, 2015 9:36 am

    So the Libs have chosen a slow lingering death. It is going to be gruesome to watch. Bad times ahead for the country. Of course Abbott could get his act together and shine as a leader uniting the country, fixing the economy heralding an era of progress and harmony. Of course.

  271. February 9, 2015 9:37 am

  272. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 9, 2015 9:44 am

    “fixing the economy”

    I am not sure the budget is fixable. Just look at the squeals of unfairness when a few small cuts are attempted.

  273. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2015 9:56 am

    Great news about yabot

    QT should be interesting today. I hope I get a chance to tune in

  274. February 9, 2015 10:00 am

  275. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 9, 2015 10:05 am

    C Uhlmann – say what you like about gillard, but she suffered a longer destabilisation and leadership battle and she always fronted up to the media and answered all questions.

  276. February 9, 2015 10:14 am

  277. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 9, 2015 10:14 am

  278. February 9, 2015 10:16 am

    Tony Abbott will be on 730 report tonight!

  279. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2015 10:38 am

    Tony Abbott will be on 730 report tonight!

    Probably recorded last night

  280. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 9, 2015 10:40 am

    So Turnbull has about 40% without even ringing around and making promises.

    Abbott really is stuffed

    ______
    Thanks for a that about my boards . It’s annoying and meant I couldn’t have a surf yesterday. I’ll be grumpy all week.

  281. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 11:04 am

    I’ll be grumpier all week. 🙂

    I won’t … 🙂 🙂

    Daughter just asked me what it meant (Abbott retention) … I said well its like an execution …

    … a “good” hanging is over in seconds … and the crowd just goes home …

    … this one is like being hung, drawn and quartered Abbott’s mates will suffer with him for a long time as he dies a slow, painful political death …

    … but the crowd watching on will stick around and have much more fun …

    Wonder what the polls will be next week?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ToM we have an old ironing board you can borrow (unless you want to buy it?) …

  282. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 11:09 am

    C Uhlmann – say what you like about gillard, but she suffered a longer destabilisation and leadership battle and she always fronted up to the media and answered all questions.

    Even, Chrissy, realises the man is a self centred coward … certainly not the leader of a country but particularly not Australia …

    We certainly do live in interesting times …

    Wonder if the Opposition will applaud when he enters Parliament … oh the irony …

  283. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2015 11:22 am

  284. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 9, 2015 11:59 am

    Just heard an interesting conspiracy theory.

    The push to remove Abbott comes from pro-AGW people because there is some important conference to occur in late 2015 which Abbott will boycott.

    Turnbull of course would attend and sign any global warming treaty put to him.

  285. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 12:03 pm

    Just heard an interesting conspiracy theory.

    🙄

  286. February 9, 2015 12:06 pm

    It’s only a temporary stay of execution – Malcolm Turnbull firms to be LNP leader at the next election…

    http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/politics/australian-federal-politics/outrights?ev_oc_grp_id=1192315

  287. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 12:19 pm

    💀

  288. February 9, 2015 12:20 pm

  289. February 9, 2015 12:23 pm

    So for every three people that voted to support Abbott, there were two others who’d rather have “anyone else…”

    #Unity

  290. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2015 12:38 pm

    #teamabbott

  291. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 12:55 pm

    That’s what I call solid support … LNP style … 👀

  292. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 12:59 pm

    Wonder what The Mad Abbott’s Acolytes are doing – saying – plotting? 😎

  293. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 1:00 pm

    So who IS running the country?

  294. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 1:11 pm

    It were Turnbull wot did it according to Bernardi and Bolt!

    So what about the other 38 recalcitrant … Fuckwits!©

    When thieves fall out … 🙂

  295. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2015 1:42 pm

    So who IS running the country?

    I know who still thinks there ( 🙂 ) running the cuntry

  296. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 9, 2015 1:59 pm

    Thanks for a that about my boards . It’s annoying and meant I couldn’t have a surf yesterday. I’ll be grumpy all week.

    Bad luck toM, don’t stay grumpy! I wonder if the boards are long gone now. Are stolen surfboards like cars, do they get rebirthed? Are they easy to get off the car?

    Interesting to see how it goes for abbott over the next 6 mths. The bits I’ve seen on telly haven’t impressed, same old stuff being regurgitated. I’m convinced it’s beyond him to change his ways. I expect a softening of the budget. Will be interesting to see how the polls go over time, will they stay the same suggesting the abbott poison pill is not being swallowed by the electorate ever, or will there be an improvement showing a willingness to give him a go. Either way, he’s on a short leash I think.

  297. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 2:12 pm

    I know who still thinks there .. … their,TR, before ToM or ToSY fly in … 🙂

    Just watched the latest Mad Abbott Sermon … and I’m sure he convinced everyone that he has changed and his government will change, and his staff will change, and the government’s policies will change, and their focus on the people will change, and his handkerchief will change, and his dogs will change, and his wife will change, and his kids will change, and those flying pigs will change …

    “the people have said they want us to focus on them… ”

    BS! We’ve said DON”T focus on us …

    Focus on the big businesses not paying fair tax or evading tax!

    Focus on the ex-pollies and their families ripping the country off!

    Focus on the stupid concept of negative gearing!

    Focus on family trusts – another way rich folk avoid tax!

    You know nuthin’ Abbott!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Was interesting to note that all the questions could be heard after we had discussed it only a few days ago …

  298. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 2:20 pm

    It’s not just the lies and deceit … it’s the hypocrisy and the contradictions in everything the government says (they don’t actually do much) inside the party room and outside …

    The Liberal MP who moved the spill motion, Luke Simpkins, claimed after the vote that Mr Abbott had told him the extra GP payment would be dumped. The Prime Minister’s office had to intervene to say all Mr Abbott had done was promise to discuss the matter.

    And there is confusion over a move to open bids for the construction of submarines, a big issue among South Australian Liberals.

    However, ministers are now saying this had been the plan all along and was not a vote buying bid.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/bill-shorten-gatecrashes-coverage-of-the-liberal-spill-motion/story-fncynjr2-1227213080975

  299. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 9, 2015 3:27 pm

  300. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 9, 2015 3:28 pm

  301. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 9, 2015 3:31 pm

  302. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 7:19 pm
  303. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 9, 2015 7:38 pm

    I don’t think I’m interested in joining any “share” activity that Bill Shorten leads

  304. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 7:45 pm

    Mundane comment, ToM … grumpy even … understandable tho’, your faith must have suffered considerable blows over the last couple of days …

    Life is never text book perfect …

  305. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2015 8:16 pm

    Mundane comment, ToM … grumpy even

  306. Tom R permalink
    February 9, 2015 8:31 pm

    From your link at 2:20 TB

    Bill Shorten’s main point today, however, is to attack government policies rather than personnel.

    “It is not the identity of the salesman that matters here, it is what they are selling,” he told reporters.

    And yes, Bill Shorten was spot on with his comments today. A shame the meeja missed it all on the news I saw tonight, even the one on 24 failed to mention Labor at all (except to have a dig at them for it not being them for once)

    “The opposition says” not seen anywhere.

    This could be why. Reflections on their abject failure are possibly painful.

    Tony Abbott disappeared for me sometime in the middle of 2013. That’s not a hard deadline, but June is the last time I remember glimpsing the person I had watched and dealt with over years of political reporting.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/feb/08/how-liberal-party-machine-swallowed-tony-abbott

    Are our journo’s so easily fed snake oil? Are they that trusting and bereft of journalistic inquisitiveness that in the case she didn’t wake up to the “real tony” until halfway through his first year as pm?

    Does she think we are as stupid as she is now pretending to have been prior to her Damascus revelation? 😯

    Small-target politics in opposition was replaced by an agenda the voters didn’t expect

    Bullshit Katharine, the ‘tea-leaves’ had been dissected and exposed for years before he even became opposition leader. The small independent outlets (the ones the majors refused to acknowledge) had been belling the cat all along. The fact that you lot chose to ignore it, along with his many, many obvious character deficits, is a glaring indictment of our msms total lack of respect for their audience.

  307. February 9, 2015 8:36 pm

    l `still` wanna see more of the train-wreck #ImStickingWithTony

    +

    39 anti-rabbit, 61 pro-rabbit, .. and one not bright enough to understand the question, .. was that kneel.? l found it quite funny that mr-rabbit blathered the same old shit to the channel-9 camera, .. and not front the press-pack. #yay.team

    +

    l also noticed blib keeps giving mr-rabbit `openings` too. ln the HoR blib was doing a pretty good job spanking the teabags, first blib-blooper was raising `republic`, blib doesn`t seem to realize he doesn`t need to dog-whistle, or shouldn`t, to the rusted-on using minority fetishes. blib should be only talking jobs, jobs, jobs and education and medicare, which are not only important to `his-team` but also those that voted teabag last time round, and who blib needs to win over.

    +

    second blib-blooper .. .. mr-rabbits leadership woes .. after knifing TWO previous PM`s .. blib will always lose on this topic .. and yep .. blib copped a zinger off mr-rabbit when he tried it on #FFS.shut.up.blib

  308. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 9, 2015 8:54 pm

    Abbott refused to answer the simple question “who are you” on 7:30 report when asked 3 times by leigh sales. Just usual attacks, damage control and selling himself.

  309. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 9:00 pm

    TR’s link …

    Katherine is just doing what the LNP does … fudging … in one instance she attempts to criticise Abbott and in the next sentence she is defending him … waffle, waffle, waffle …

    Contradiction with a deep coating of hypocrisy … in other words – nowhere to go so just write anything …

    Keep the wolves fed and the sheep too …

    What IS disturbing is her job title!

    With a story this important where’s the Guardian’s Political Editor?

  310. February 9, 2015 9:01 pm

    Apparently “good government” started today…
    So you heard it folks the training wheelies are off…. and the adults are in charge 🙄

    Abbott just wouldn’t answer Leigh Sales questions..especially when asked who is the real Abbott and what does he stand for..strait back to thee Under Meme…pathetic and unconvincing.

    She had to keep interrupting him to get him back on track and at one point, clearly flustered ,just talked over her with the tired three word slogan play book shit, which is about as believable as Nils repetitive wank..

    Should be an interesting next few weeks .. Shortman and Tanya were on fire today..
    Tout of the day to Turnbull.. you only gave us 39% of the answer…

  311. February 9, 2015 9:03 pm

    l know armchair .. he has only chanted the same shit for the last 5-or-6 years .. and still teabag-media don`t know `how` to challenge him. .. l noticed Toolman seemed quite `huffy` having to report .. mr-rabbit only talking to network-9 camera in office earlier today .. and no media questions .. as if it would have fcuking mattered anyway!

  312. February 9, 2015 9:06 pm

  313. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 9:38 pm

    Abbott just wouldn’t answer Leigh Sales questions..especially when asked who is the real Abbott and what does he stand for …

    Shades again? The real Julia?

    Just watched 7:30 Report and it is painful …

    http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/7-30/

  314. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 9:49 pm

    Wanna fix the budget?

    How much does negative gearing cost?

    ATO data provides an estimate of the cost of negative gearing. In 1993-94 it was $850 million, fluctuating around the $1 billion mark over the next several years. As investors piled into the market, the cost rapidly escalated to a peak of $3.8 billion in 2007-08 before falling to $2.9 billion in 2009-10. Over the last seventeen years, negative gearing has cost taxpayers an inflation-adjusted $33.5 billion (2012 dollars).

    http://theconversation.com/its-time-to-abolish-negative-gearing-9879

  315. TB Queensland permalink
    February 9, 2015 9:54 pm

    Wanna fix the budget?

    As Treasury revealed in the budget, the annual cost of superannuation tax concessions is set to surge in coming years, making the current cost — nearly $32 billion — look paltry as it rises to a remarkable $50 billion in 2017-18. At that point the cost of superannuation will exceed the cost of the age pension — despite one of the core goals of Australia’s superannuation system being to reduce the call on the budget from retirement.

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2014/05/15/super-tax-lurks-deliver-the-wealthy-35-billion-and-rising/

  316. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 9, 2015 11:55 pm

    l noticed Toolman seemed quite `huffy` having to report .. mr-rabbit only talking to network-9 camera in office earlier today .. and no media questions ..

    Yes, that was funny, ulmann did have a sook about abbott inviting a sole ch9 camera into his office to record a prepared spiel after the spill. It was pretty gutless of Abbott though. He really does have a lot of trouble saying sorry and admitting wrong [like most people who spend their time preaching fire and brimstone at others]. He did manage to hold a little presser just before QT when he knew questions would need to be very limited.

    I imagine abbott won’t revisit this day, no wasted repentance for him, tomorrow he’ll say it’s all in the past and will avoid questions.

    What went wrong?
    http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/what-went-wrong.html

  317. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 12:39 am

  318. February 10, 2015 7:06 am

    did ya`follow on to this one from elders .. armchair .. #guffaw

    http://adamfgibson.com/2015/02/04/the-mark-of-a-man/

  319. February 10, 2015 7:18 am

    ha-fcuking-ha”””””””””This week has proved that unlike his political hero, Churchill, the Australian prime minister did not grow once he had the power he scrapped and fought for Tony Abbott has not grown into the role of prime minister, and this is his real failing.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/feb/06/tony-abbott-is-in-trouble-because-he-never-let-the-junkyard-dog-go ”””””””'(via-elder)

    #do you remember not so long ago armchair, about 18-months ago by my guess, david marr wrote an whacking big `essay` on how there was .. .. so much more to mr-rabbit .. just before the last election .. l think. Well, now it seems .. .. MARR is eating his own `essay`. #The people fooled most, and still mostly fooled by mr-rabbit, always was teabag-media.

  320. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 8:16 am

    superannuation tax concessions is set to surge in coming years

    Yes, and why is that one wonders?

    THE nation’s wealthiest retirees will get a $300 million boost today when Joe Hockey dumps one of Labor’s most hated tax hikes after two years of dispute over how to tax superannuation.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/last-rites-for-wealthy-super-tax/story-fn59nsif-1226753793774

    Oh yea, hockeynomics in action.

    But that wasn’t the end of it

    Mr Hockey and Assistant Treasurer Arthur Sinodinos will also abandon Labor’s plan to collect $1.5bn in tax from global companies and confirm their rejection of Labor’s $1.8bn increase in fringe benefits taxes on cars.

    The Australian can also reveal the Treasurer has won cabinet approval to drop Labor’s plan to curtail tax deductions for education expenses. Mr Swan announced in May self-education expenses would be capped at $2000 a year to save more than $500m, but employees and universities hit back, saying it would drive people out of education.

    It is not hard to see what the problem is. Labor attempted to wind back the structural deficits in the budget, and were attacked by the opposition, vested interest and the media for their troubles (I think those last two are often one and the same, actually, probably all three)

    As soon as hockey got in, he wound back large swathes of it, and then wondered why the budget blew out. And then proceeds to blame Labor ROFL

    What a dick.

    I imagine abbott won’t revisit this day, no wasted repentance for him

    I actually did Laugh Out Loud when I saw the front page of the lolstralian this morning at the servo blasting out, without any sense of irony, captain insensible claiming, yet again “Trust Me, I can change”. Really, they expect to be taken seriously?

  321. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 8:26 am

    From your Andrew Elder link AO

    They ignored Labor claims that Abbott would want to cut health and education and the ABC, because hey look here’s a quote where he denies it! Take that, partisans! And that’s all the analysis you need to do when you’ve pumped up a politician and his party, where the popular mood matches that of the press gallery

    Perhaps he meant “where the popular mood is fed by that of the press gallery”?

    The same press gallery fools who are looking around wondering where it all went wrong.

    I can think of a starting point pissgallerias. It started when you barracked instead of reported. Thanks for what you unleashed you fucking morons. As for ulman crying about yabot running away, yet again. SUCKED SHIT DICKHEAD!

    Maybe next time you won’t lie to a sitting PM in order to try and support your denialist buddies instead of getting at the truth. Andrew Elder again sums it up succinctly.

    We could have stopped him, we should have; and all the press gallery had to do was tell us the truth.

  322. February 10, 2015 8:28 am

    tingle”””””’There’s never really been an acknowledgement that the political fortunes of the Howard-Costello era were based on an extraordinary boom time.

    http://www.afr.com/p/national/politics/tony_abbott_spins_out_of_control_SwZNiJckt5qaYay58NNxDK ””””””””””””(via-elder)

    #yawwwwwnn #this is pretty much the only worthy thing tingle states, but doesn`t report further on. The rest is `churn` about how mr-rabbit surprised `us`(teabag-media), and if they had `actually` been doing their job, they wouldn`t be surprised now.

    +

    tingle””””””””’that ”we know no more about what he stands for or what he is going to do”.

    For voters, it turned out that they really, really didn’t know what he stood for – whether that was budget measures that they weren’t expecting, or just how out of touch Abbott turned out to be on issues like knighthoods, changes to the Racial Discrimination Act, or funding for marriage counselling.

    Voters had heard the slogans repeatedly endlessly: stop the debt, stop the taxes, stop the boats. But whether there was any underlying philosophy in among the slogans was unclear.”””””””””””

    #this type of shit comes across as `victim-blaming`, the `voters` would have known more than slogans if the arse-hats in teabag-media `actually` did their job and told them, .. instead of the constant stream of regurgitation of slogans and team-cheering that teabag-media delivered.

    +

    #elder is correct to point-out that as mr-rabbit gets his nose rubbed in canberra leavings, .. teabag-media is having its nose rubbed in the very same leavings too.

  323. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 10, 2015 8:46 am

    ” Labor attempted to wind back

    And attempted is the word. Rather than attempting why didn’t Labor do it?

    You will most probably find like most Labor ideas the legislation would have been unworkable or have unintended consequences. Most probably would lead to a drop in tax revenue.

    This point was made about the Superannuation changes

    “The Treasurer will formally jettison Wayne Swan’s plan to tax the earnings of the richest super funds amid official concerns the changes were unworkable.

  324. February 10, 2015 8:53 am

  325. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 9:13 am

    Rather than attempting why didn’t Labor do it?

    Did you read the article nIl? Did you really read the bits I quoted from?

    hockey was removing the legislation Labor had passed. And “claims” from the lostralian mean less than your rants.

    If that doesn’t highlight the supreme stupidity of comment, Ricky has 🙂

  326. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 9:16 am

    Peter Martin highlights hockeys rubbery figures

    Disturbingly, the Reserve Bank says the number of hours worked per month has scarcely changed since December 2011 despite three years of population growth.

    None of these facts would surprise anyone in business or anyone looking for a job. What would surprise them would be to hear from the team at the top that things are “heading in the right direction”. It would make them think they were being lied to.

    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-the-government-is-a-brake-on-the-economy-20150209-13972i.html

  327. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 9:16 am

    Yes, I did read the bagz, and it didn’t surprise me one bit, I’ve always thought him a total dickhead. He’s got where he is by sucking up to men with influence. I keep hearing in the press how he really is a nice guy, well, I’ve looked, but never seen anything but indulged entitlement. He wouldn’t even know how how most people live.

    http://adamfgibson.com/2015/02/04/the-mark-of-a-man/

  328. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 9:23 am

  329. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 9:24 am

    but never seen anything but indulged entitlement.

    Something Wonky were ruminating over why yabot wouldn’t step aside and they mentioned his apparent addiction to taxpayer funds. They mentioned as opposition leader, how his office always used far more money than the PM’s, and his vocal crying after being booted from office in 2007 about having to survive with a pay cut.

    He is the biggest leaner in office, and the one most responsible for kicking those worst of. Born to rule indeed

    http://somethingwonky.com/podcast/2015/2/8/128-its-on.html

  330. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 10, 2015 9:35 am

    “hockey was removing the legislation Labor had passed.”

    Did you read what i said? Most probably another landmine Labor left.

    Labor just has to say something and then you brag about something they said. How about passing the legislation then have it working for several years and then brag about how great it was.

    Most things Labor does are useless.I bet you anything the legislation was unworkable or have bad effects on the economy. It would not have worked because most labor policies do not work.

  331. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 9:41 am

    Did you read what i said?

    Unfortunately.

    Most probably ROFL

    Labor had legislation which the libs wound back which hit the budget to the tune of billions a year. That’s a fact. Even the lolstralian doesn’t dispute that. Yet you continue to

    How about passing the legislation then have it working for several years

    You mean like a Carbon Price ROFL

  332. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 10, 2015 9:56 am

    “Labor had legislation which the libs wound back which hit the budget to the tune of billions a year”

    Like the mining tax?

    The Super changes were unworkable. In fact lost labor policies are rubbish. How many times did Swan promise a surplus budget??

    Labor does that a lot. They propose something. Their supporters get excited at the proposal.

    But does the proposal work??

  333. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 10:23 am

    The Super changes were unworkable.

    Do you evidence for that, or just the lolstralians unattributed opinion?

    Like the mining tax?

    Yes, Like the mining tax that was about to start bringing in the dollars. Flawed at the start, but now would have been making money. Fucking idiots. Get rid of all legislation that fills the coffers, then try to replace it with regressive crap. Then fail ROFL (sob)

  334. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 10:28 am

    The morning laughs

    (courtesy of BK)

  335. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 10, 2015 10:37 am

    “Yes, Like the mining tax that was about to start bringing in the dollars”

    I rest my case.

    And Swan was about to start bringing in a surplus.

    Labor policies do not work.

  336. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 10:46 am

    I rest my case.

    ROFL

    Reminder nIl

    Do you evidence for that

    Generally, you “rest your case” AFTER the evidence is supplied, not before.

    #justsayin’ 😉

  337. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 11:43 am

    analjones is such a dickhead

    “I think it’s incumbent on us all to support the Prime Minister”, no matter who they were, he declared.

    And with that, all Alan’s other good works were undone, the charm offensive all for nought, as we remembered the other Alan Jones. Was the man who branded Julia Gillard “Juliar”, who proposed she be dumped at sea in a chaff bag, who suggested her father had “died of shame”, really demanding bipartisan respect for whoever held the office of Prime Minister?

    He was indeed. With admirable restraint, Chris Bowen put it best. “That’s a bit rich,” he told Alan, who as is his wont carried on regardless.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/alan-jones-on-qa-its-incumbent-on-us-all-to-support-the-pm-whomever-the-pm-might-be-20150210-13a75p.html#ixzz3RIYaAwUf

    I wonder how hard Chris Bowen fought to not say what he really wanted to?

  338. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 11:55 am

    Company tax cuts will only benefit foreign companies and will reduce government revenue.

    http://theconversation.com/factcheck-is-australias-corporate-tax-rate-not-competitive-with-the-rest-of-the-region-37226

    FactCheck: is Australia’s corporate tax rate not competitive with the rest of the region?

    …It is true the corporate tax rate at 30% is higher than some other countries in our region, but it is average compared to G7 countries. Further, Australia’s franked dividends system means Australian shareholders already enjoy favourable tax conditions on income earned from their investment in companies. However, foreign investors do not benefit from franked dividends and would benefit from a lower company tax rate in Australia…

  339. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 12:02 pm

    February 10, 2015 9:16 am TR link …

    This is a very telling article that summarises just about everything we have been pushing over the last twelve months …

    I’d title it … “How To Destroy An Economy in 12 Months Using Ideology”

    And exaggerated claims have eaten away at trust. Hockey said Australia was on track to run out of money to pay for its health, welfare and education systems. The figures put forward by his then health minister suggested otherwise. In ten years the cost of Medicare had climbed 124 per cent, the cost of the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme 90 per cent and the cost of public hospitals 83 per cent. But Australia’s gross domestic product – the money we would use to pay for these things – climbed 94 per cent.

    The government tells us it’s concerned about future generations, but won’t release the Treasury’s intergenerational report. It tells us it wants a discussion about tax, but won’t release the tax discussion paper finalised late last year.

    Without trust we lack confidence. We are neither spending nor investing what we should. Business and consumer confidence has been sliding since September.

    Specific businesses are at a standstill. Universities don’t know what fees they will be allowed to charge, students enrolling don’t know what fees they will eventually be asked to pay, doctors don’t know what will happen to their incomes, electricity generators don’t know what will happen to the renewable energy target, big businesses don’t know whether they will be hit with the 1.5 per cent paid parental leave levy and what it will be used for.

    But why are these articles only surfacing NOW!

    So frustrating …

    Anecdotal …

    My son popped in yesterday (he’s a middle manager with a well known service organisation) … he was saying that business had just slowed way down … a couple of his team had been saying that the shopping centres were dead too …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I’m just waiting for the next stuff up/ gaffe!

  340. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 12:04 pm

  341. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 12:07 pm

    lol AO, it’s in the comedy section ROFL

    We always knew the libs real talent was being wasted 🙂

  342. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 12:07 pm

  343. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 12:12 pm

    Labor policies do not work.

    Liberal policies do … in a very NEGATIVE way!

    Looking ahead, the Reserve Bank expects growth to remain “a little below trend for somewhat longer, and the rate of unemployment peak a little higher, than earlier expected.” Unemployment has climbed from a quarterly rate of 5.3 per cent at the end of 2012 to 5.8 per cent at the end of 2013 to 6.2 per cent at the end of 2014. We get the first figures for 2015 on Thursday.

    Unemployment is worse than it was at the peak of the global financial crisis. The Reserve Bank expects it to get worse still.

    Hockey and Cormann will tell you that while unemployment is growing, employment is too. But it’s not, really. The number of hours worked per month grew barely at all throughout 2014. More people may have been employed at the end of the year than the start but on average they’ve been working less, some shifting to part-time work and others to fewer hours of full-time work. Disturbingly, the Reserve Bank says the number of hours worked per month has scarcely changed since December 2011 despite three years of population growth.

  344. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 12:15 pm

    Waiting … waiting …

  345. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 12:16 pm

    Peta Credlin’s position under pressure as Abbott resets government – politics live
    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2015/feb/10/tony-abbott-faces-the-partyroom-as-he-resets-the-government-politics-live?CMP=share_btn_tw#block-54d95491e4b07dccdba9e59c

    Some breaking news from Lenore Taylor: Abbott says he will sack staff who brief against MPs

  346. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 12:30 pm

  347. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 12:56 pm

    Last one’s good, KL! Sums it up …

    Suggestion to the Blogmeister … perhaps a new thread to reflect … Good Government Day 1?

  348. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 10, 2015 12:57 pm

    “Unemployment has climbed from a quarterly rate of 5.3 per cent at the end of 2012 to 5.8 per cent at the end of 2013 to 6.2 per cent at the end of 2014. ”

    Well it looks like the horrendous rate of increase in the unemployment rate from 4.3% to 5.8% under Rudd/Gillard has slowed.

    We are now at what the Hawke/keating govt would say is a low rate of unemployment.

  349. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:05 pm

    Except of course unemployment was supposed to get better, not worse under the libs.

  350. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:06 pm

    What gaffe from The Mad Monk today? Waiting, waiting …

  351. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:14 pm

    Good Government Day 1?

    No typos please. I can just see it now “God Government, On the First Day”

  352. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:17 pm

  353. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:20 pm

    Day 1 of Stop Feeding The Troll too … can’t argue with someone who simply ignores the truth, facts and expert comments from the media … is deceitful and a bare faced liar … who accuses anyone who actually tells the truth that they lie … astounding … nuff is enuff …

    The End is Nigh …

  354. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:25 pm

    Debt and unemployment exploded under Labor.

    That is what you people ignore.

    I suspect our debt problem is unsolvable.

  355. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:30 pm

    “People will start talking,” Mr Shorten joked when they crossed paths..

    “Make sure you say hi to your gorgeous wife Chloe,” replied Ms Bishop.

    “I will. Hope you have a quieter day at the office today than yesterday,” said Mr Shorten with limited sincerity.

    Why add the personal opinion? “with limited sincerity” … because its become a habit?

    Having trained people in business communication (written, verbal and NVC) these nuances drive me up the wall … most people don’t realise the negative message being sent …

    Why didn’t Malcolm Farr say “with a twinkle in her eye” about Julie Bishop? Or “with limited sincerity” ???

    Was Farr even there?

    http://www.news.com.au/national/julie-bishop-and-bill-shorten-briefly-pause-their-competing-missions-for-a-chat/story-fncynjr2-1227214432590

  356. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:34 pm

    Leigh Sales Reduced Tony Abbott To A Blinking Mess Of Nonsense On Last Night’s ‘7.30’

    Read more at http://junkee.com/leigh-sales-tony-abbott-smackdown-is-an-absolute-day-maker/50861#pPdDKsHDxpRGZ3vM.99

  357. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:35 pm

    (In my opinion) probably the greatest example of economic incompetence vs political expediency is Swan.

    Remember how he continued the stimulus (ie debt fuelled spending to boost economic activity) for political reasons while the Reserve Bank was increasing interest rates to dampen economic activity.

    Hockey is a dud, and incompetent. Swan was a dud, incompetent and dishonest.

  358. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:43 pm

    (In my opinion) probably the greatest example of economic incompetence vs political expediency is Swan.

    Isn’t it nice how people can have a difference of opinion

    You think Swan was hopeless

    The IMF thought he was the Worlds Greatest Treasurer.

    for political reasons

    Here I was thinking it was for economic reasons, since, the economic situation showed that the economy was running on his stimulus alone. I’ve shown you this many times before yomm. Are you able to highlight a period you think that was happening?

  359. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:48 pm

    Hockey is a dud, and incompetent. Swan was a dud, incompetent and dishonest.

    Obviously you didn’t read the Peter Martin article above, which exposed just how ‘loose’ with the truth hockey has been.

    Are you able to highlight, as above, when Swan lied?

  360. Splatterbottom permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:51 pm

    “Abbott refused to answer the simple question “who are you””

    It’s Real Julia all over again.

    The basic answer in both cases is “I want to be PM. I’ll say and do whatever it takes to get the job. But don’t hold me to my promises. Don’t expect coherent policies or principled behaviour.”

    Once I was a smart-arsed lout with conservative principles. They don’t matter any more now that I have clawed my way to the top. They are lost in the lies, deals and compromises. I’ve sold my arse so often it doesn’t even hurt when I yank my head out every now and then. I’ve been hollowed out inside. The 24 hour spin cycle does that to you. All that is left is the wild-eyed stare and the lip-licking shit-eating grin. That’s it. There is no one else here.

  361. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 1:55 pm

    It’s Real Julia all over again.

  362. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 10, 2015 2:30 pm

    “Hockey is a dud, and incompetent”

    Turnbull would make a better Treasurer. Turnbull is an economic conservative. Also to be Treasurer you have to be a salesman. Hockey has not been able to sell the needs for cuts.

    I notice the people who brought in University fees are against the GP co-payment.

    But something has to be done before we are cactus. ALP voters do not see any problem with continuing budget deficits.

  363. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 2:39 pm

    I’m just waiting for the next stuff up/ gaffe!

    Does this qualify. OK, not really a stuff up or a gaffe, more like a lie.

    A grubmint of humpty fucken dunpty

    “Tender has a very specific meaning, we have to evaluate a whole range of issues” he said.

    …….

    South Australian Labor Senator Penny Wong has accused the Prime Minister of lying and using the defence contract to secure a vote in the party room spill motion ballot.

    “What we have are weasel words from the Defence Minister and the Prime Minister which are completely at odds with the commitment the Prime Minister made to Sean Edwards,” Senator Wong said.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-10/submarine-kevin-andrews-takes-backwards-step/6082254

    Bad enough that the future of one of the few manufacturers this grubmint hasn’t gone out of its way to kill (oh, that’s right, they did), yabot has to use it as a pawn in his game of tones.

    Miserable little canut

    But something has to be done before we are cactus.

    I AGREE!

    Luckily, the ALP will be back in soon, stop fretting nIl 😉

  364. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 10, 2015 2:55 pm

    “Bad enough that the future of one of the few manufacturers this grubmint hasn’t gone out of its way to kill ”

    It was Rudd/Gillard policies which drove locally made cars from 25% to 10% of the market.

    ALP policies do not work but people still keep voting for the ALP. One of the first programs Labor killed was Commercial Ready a great Howard govt program for helping local manufacturing

    http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/nelson-attacks-axing-of-commercial-ready-20080620-144c7.html

    Permo-Drive, based in Ballina on NSW’s far north coast, was expecting the grant from the Commercial Ready scheme, axed in the Rudd government’s first budget last month, it was reported.

    The company was ready to roll out 20 demonstrator models and Australia’s biggest trucking companies were keen to try them, News Limited said.

    Opposition Leader Brendan Nelson said government’s hypocrisy had been exposed by a decision to provide global car giant Toyota with $35 million to assist with manufacture of a hybrid Camry, but not help a local company.”

    Labor always picks the wrong policy.

  365. February 10, 2015 3:06 pm

    QT on my #abc24, bananasby is ranting and raving in a hysteric fashion, .. about `raw`produce prices, .. under them(alp) $2.70, under us(teabags) $3.60 for X(being cotton,beef lamb, whatever)

    +

    #this seems to be horse-shit to me, aren`t all these `raw`produce considered `commodities` that operate on so-called free markets, and traded though contracts, options and other `derivatives` on various `exchanges` .. .. #and isn`t bananasby meant to be an accountant and know this .. .. #is bananasby blatantly lying to parliament when he said this

  366. Tom R permalink
    February 10, 2015 3:07 pm

    Wow, so nIl is arguing for Government assistance. How the worm has turned.

    Was there anything around that time that might have re-calibrated the Governments decisions do you think?

    Rack ya’ brain nIl, see if anything rattles.

  367. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 3:48 pm

    Wow, so nIl is arguing for Government assistance.

    Now … let me see … is this a clue,TR … 20080620? In the URL link …

    Give it away … its a pointless exercise …

  368. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 3:52 pm

    isn`t bananasby meant to be an accountant and know this ..

    Yep, maybe somebody could have asked what the present price for iron ore is?

    Its like living in nuthouse and all the nutcases have escaped …

  369. February 10, 2015 3:53 pm

    “”ALP voters do not see any problem with continuing budget deficits.””

    Neither does Joe Hockey. He’s doubled the deficit since he’s been in office.

    So would you agree the now widely held opinion that Hockey will never deliver a surplus?

  370. February 10, 2015 3:55 pm

    sorry, I left a bit of that last sentence…

    What I meant was:

    “”So would you agree the now widely held opinion that Hockey will never deliver a surplus, you stupid, ignorant fuckfaced cunt?”

  371. February 10, 2015 4:03 pm

    Turnbull would make a better Treasurer. Turnbull is an economic conservative.

    Fucking priceless comment… fuck best comedy from Nils yet. Absolute glareing proof that this fuckwit is completely clueless….

    Prediction… Turbull becomes PM or treasurer… The WorldCom deal comes back to bite him on the ass. Its a well known fact that Merchant Wanker Mal is about as far from economically conservative as you can get.. TURNBULL IS A PROLIFIC INSIDE TRADER!!!…
    Nil you fuckwit I know you get all you information from wiki and Google… why don’t you try Goldman Sachs .. GFC?

    Best Fuck you Abbot Eva!!

  372. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 10, 2015 4:06 pm

    “He’s doubled the deficit since he’s been in office.

    Has he? Who told you that?

    And Hockey most probably will never deliver a surplus. But the Senate will not pass some legislation to help us get a surplus.

    “Wow, so nIl is arguing for Government assistance”

    I am not totally against govt assistance for industry. One off grants to help start up a product or to help a company in trouble might be OK. But continuous subsidies do not appear to work. The company just takes the money for granted

    But Commercial Ready was a wonderful Howard govt program which was axed by Rudd.

  373. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 4:20 pm

    I’m so pleased that The Mad Abbott has finally got the message …*

    PRIME Minister Tony Abbott told his colleagues that if they didn’t end the focus on themselves they would likely lose the next election.

    “If we focus on the ALP we will win the next election. If not, we will get a very different result,” the Prime Minister said.

    Mr Abbott also said the Liberal party needed to return to the discipline and collegiality the party showed in opposition.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/prime-minister-tony-abbott-warns-liberal-mps-against-infighting/story-fncynjr2-1227214636673

    LOL!

  374. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 4:52 pm

    Nil you fuckwit I know you get all you information from wiki and Google…

    If only he did … RP … if only he did … :/

  375. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 5:06 pm

    …I’ve sold my arse so often it doesn’t even hurt when I yank my head out every now and then. I’ve been hollowed out inside. The 24 hour spin cycle does that to you. All that is left is the wild-eyed stare and the lip-licking shit-eating grin. That’s it. There is no one else here…

    😆 so true sb, hollowman abbott.

  376. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 5:10 pm

    I honestly cannot understand why the police need to shoot to kill someone holding a knife!

  377. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 5:24 pm

    Me too … KL but there are probably a lot of variables …

    … public safety … policing protocols … I understood they had been “trying” to taser her, whatever that means …

    … if I recall about 6m is considered to be the safe zone with someone armed with a knife (happy to be corrected) … its amazing how quickly a person with a knife can take the advantage …

    Personally I’d let them tire themselves out then move in … but if the knife wielder is high, that could take hours …

    … nets always struck me as more practical solution but deploying a net over a moving target is very difficult …

    … still, if four people can capture a croc live?

    … there has to be a better way …

    … and I’ve never been there … so I really don’t know …

  378. February 10, 2015 5:49 pm

    I’ve sold my arse so often it doesn’t even hurt when I yank my head out every now and then. Reporting from the inside is extremely difficult in the digital age. Damn! I’ve been out-tweeted again! The 24 hour spin cycle does that to you. All that is left is the unsold bundles of newsprint and empty chairs where the audience used to be.

  379. February 10, 2015 5:57 pm

    TB Nils is an immoral grub… A low intellect mindless imbecile. The pissed captain steers the ship into the minefield and after the tenth explosion: he is the last air gulping denialist going down blaming everyone else but who is at fault…..

    Calling Hokey’s budget nessasary, Turnbull a fiscal conservative whilst constantly blaming Labor & the senate masturbating over a picture of the laziest treasure in history just displays he has no fucking idea…

    Turnbull , a director of Goldman Sachs is a fiscal conservative?… that is just priceless..

    Such patent stupidity only reaffirms he has no intellectual leverage or plausible understanding of economics and as such should be treated with the utter disdain he has duly earned

    The Adults are in charge aye? Gotta love Kevin..he’s a real star with god on his side…
    These are the fuckwits that Nils is sticking up for.. get your head around that :roll:.

    So even when Abbott shows his contrition and swears on the grave of BoB Santamaria he’s a changed man, is listening… he just cant help one last “made up on the run Captains call” (ass saver) The gutless fuckwit would not even face the press… he’s a grub.

    The minister cant even explain it because it just made up shit….

    http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/02/10/minister-confused-over-submarine-contracts.html

  380. February 10, 2015 7:29 pm

    ””””maybe somebody could have asked what the present price for iron ore is?”””’#LOL-or-coal

    #QT continued, there was a `division` during QT, so Tony and Toolman engaged in some quite humorous banter using bananasby, along the lines of, .. .. crops have a higher yield under a coalition govt .. .. the cattle are always fatter under a coalition govt .. .. lambs are happier going to slaughter under a coalition govt .. l think it was toolman creating the humor, which seems a bit out of character, usually he seems to be a bit of a jumped-up twit.

  381. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 7:45 pm

    BING! Day 1 … and we the first lie and more lies and BS!

    So, just what is a “competitive evaluation process” … no-one knows!

    It’s just LNP gobblydegook!

    My suspicion is that its a “tender” process that none of us will see as opposed to a tender …

    Everything else from this government is covert … camouflaged … or black ops … welcome to the paranoia of big brother Septic Tank!

    And nothing in the Rupert Murdoch sewerage stream! Nothing!

    The Mad Abbott lied!

    Now I’m not abig fan of Conroy – he is a Dimwit® … but this just landed in my inbox (I get emails from the Libs and Labor … sorry KL I don’t subscribe to the Greens – maybe I should!)

    Just when you think he’s finally come to his senses on something, it looks like he’s lying again.

    On Sunday, as a spill motion threatened the Prime Minister’s job, a rare bit of good news was developing for Australian manufacturing.

    After months of refusing to guarantee a “competitive tender” for Australia’s future submarines, Tony Abbott told South Australian Liberals that finally there would be a competitive tender to build our new fleet.

    This was music to the ears of thousands of Australians fighting for the subs to be built on Australian soil, passionate about delivering the submarines Australia needs and saving manufacturing jobs in South Australia.

    Unfortunately we found out that the only reason he reversed his position was to stop South Australian MPs and Senators from voting against him in a leadership spill.

    That’s right, the Prime Minister used our new submarines as a bargaining chip to win him a couple of votes in a last minute attempt to sure up his leadership.

    But it gets worse. Today the Liberal Government made an announcement on submarines that said nothing about a “tender”. In fact, they surprised everyone by announcing what they are calling a “competitive evaluation process”.

    What does all this mean? It looks a lot like Tony Abbott just lied to keep his job. He lied to us all so he could become PM, now it looks like he lied to his own colleagues to stay PM. 

    He wasn’t thinking about the thousands of Australians who might lose their job if the subs were built overseas, he was only thinking about one job – his. 

    These submarines will be one of the most important national security assets Australia ever has and Tony Abbott has turned this procurement process into a shambles.

    There has been something going on with the FTA with Japan (I admit my prejudice to FTAs) since it was signed!

    This is another shonky deal!

  382. TB Queensland permalink
    February 10, 2015 7:48 pm

    TURNING YOUR DAILY NEWS INTO A SNARKY RANT

    Whoo yoo talkin’ ’bout, Willis?

    Love it, sunshine! 🙂

  383. February 10, 2015 9:32 pm

    Has anyone seen or heard from Walrus ? I’m a bit concerned …

  384. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 10:20 pm

    Has anyone seen or heard from Walrus ? I’m a bit concerned …

    Isn’t he on a bit of a working holiday?

    Gina didn’t like the portayal of herself in ch 9’s ‘house of hancock’

    Rinehart sends skinny pic to get back at ‘tacky’ show:
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/2015/02/10/gina-rinehart-slams-house-of-hancock/

  385. February 10, 2015 10:23 pm

  386. February 10, 2015 10:28 pm

    TB.. by tender Abbott means he will tenderly ginger up to anyone that can save his ass and it wont be the Japs thats for sure….

    Maybe Walrus has seen the light and joined a socialist commune?

  387. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 10, 2015 10:43 pm

    Socialism at last! Abbott: “This is going to be a Government which socialises decisions before they are finalised.”

    That was a strange choice of words. Does abbott usually privatise decisions?

  388. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 11, 2015 8:02 am

    All subsidies did is produce cars that nobody wanted to buy

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/winged-falcon-could-see-ford-make-an-early-exit/story-e6frg8zx-1227215216434

    Sales of the Ford Falcon slumped to 381 units in January, one of the poorest results in the carmaker’s rich history, with the former top-selling vehicle now below October’s then record low of 396 deliveries……………..Unfortunately Ford hasn’t kept up with what the public want,” he said.

    “People are going for the small SUVs and that kind of thing. They’re not buying the old Ford wagon.”

  389. February 11, 2015 8:54 am

    “”Isn’t he on a bit of a working holiday?””

    That’s what I thought too. But I would’ve thought that he would’ve recovered from his fleeting spurt of altruism and returned to being his usual WCP by now..

  390. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 11, 2015 10:14 am

    But I would’ve thought that he would’ve recovered from his fleeting spurt of altruism and returned to being his usual WCP by now..

    I think he only works when he feels like it 😉
    He did say his internet was very dodgy and limited, I’m going with that.
    If he was in hospital, he would’ve had access to some internet and let us know. Otherwise, he’s dead and we’ll never know unless his wife drops in to tell us!

  391. TB Queensland permalink
    February 11, 2015 10:18 am

    Re: Wally, must admit the same thought has crossed my mind a couple of times … it was pretty miserable where he was last time and he did mention difficulty with Wi-Fi … I think he was somewhere in the north of VN … and its pretty rugged up in the hills (we were there last year you may recall … but as tourists – Wally was in the “outback” … he mentioned supervising, not labouring this time and he was working out of a warehouse).

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “This is going to be a Government which socialises decisions before they are finalised.”

    This needs liberalising …

    “This is going to be a Government which rationalises delusions before they are finalised.”

  392. TB Queensland permalink
    February 11, 2015 10:19 am

    Otherwise, he’s dead and we’ll never know unless his wife drops in to tell us!

    I bet you’re a nurse, KL … 🙄

  393. TB Queensland permalink
    February 11, 2015 10:22 am

    Day 2 of Good Government (actually this was Day 1 but WGAF!)

    Joe Hockey

    “We are endeavouring to encourage the Labor Party and the Labor-controlled Senate to come to the table to negotiate.”

    There are 76 senators, which means the government needs 39 votes to pass legislation through the upper house. The Coalition has 33 senators, followed by Labor with 25, the Greens with 10, the Palmer United Party with two and other minor parties with three. There are also three Independents.

  394. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 11, 2015 10:47 am

    Obama has got the republicans, ie the religious right, all riled up again after his National Prayer Breakfast [I know it doesn’t take to much]

    For Christ’s Sake:
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/02/republican_reaction_to_obama_s_prayer_breakfast_many_conservatives_don_t.html
    …Some Republicans would rather defend Christianity from all criticism than stand clearly against religious violence…

    He talked about the crusades, slavery and jim crow.

    Christian Soldiers
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/02/jim_crow_south_s_lynching_of_blacks_and_christianity_the_terror_inflicted.single.html

    …For those still unaware, this debate comes after President Obama’s comments at the annual National Prayer Breakfast, where—after condemning Islamic radical group ISIS as a “death cult”—he offered a moderating thought. “Lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ … So this is not unique to one group or one religion. There is a tendency in us, a sinful tendency that can pervert and distort our faith.”…

    Abbott and shorten are also talking this morning about aboriginal disadvantage [another disappointing report is in] and the aboriginal gallipoli soldier’s non-person status at home. I feel sure the subject of aboriginal disadvantage will barely rate a mention in our media.

  395. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 11, 2015 10:53 am

    I bet you’re a nurse, KL …

    I did have a little thought as to whether that comment was too ‘occupational’ in humour and nature for people! Sorry if it offends, it really wasn’t meant to.

  396. armchair opinionator permalink
    February 11, 2015 11:16 am

  397. TB Queensland permalink
    February 11, 2015 11:28 am

    Wally, would find it humorous, I’m sure, I was only having a dig … 🙂

  398. TB Queensland permalink
    February 11, 2015 11:37 am

    … his National Prayer Breakfast

    His fkn what!

    He might also have mentioned that some of us think that organised religious in any shape or form is a crock of fairyland shite made up by twisted well meaning, human beings … that’s caused more misery in the world than anything else …

    Why do religious nut jobs think everyone else should either believe what they do or suffer – or that the non-believers are in someway inferior ’cause they “just don’t know” as if believers have been given some special knowledge and an insight into the TRUTH!

    Apologies for the rant!

    Disclaimer: I am an agnostic … and anyone can agree with me … or not … I don’t GAF …

    (BTW, KL, Obama did get it right …)

  399. Neil of Sydney permalink
    February 11, 2015 2:00 pm

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/why-we-may-never-see-a-surplus-again/story-e6frflo9-1227208985400

    AUSTRALIA, we’re in trouble.

    The country may never get back into budget surplus if the government’s spending cuts continue to be blocked by Labor and the Senate, the governor of the Reserve Bank and the head of Treasury have warned.

    The ominous predictions on the future of the nation’s finances were made by new Treasury Secretary John Fraser and RBA boss Glenn Stevens in an extraordinary briefing to Cabinet on Tuesday, The Daily Telegraph reports.

  400. February 11, 2015 2:06 pm


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