Abbott’s ICE Taskforce Destined for Failure
TONY ABBOTT has today established a new Federal Police Task Force “Operation ICE Hysteria” to tackle the so-called “ice epidemic” that threatens to destroy the very thin fabric that tenuously holds this fragile society together.
Neglecting to tackle the societal precursors that tend to lead to drug use (poverty, unemployment, social isolation), Mr Abbott instead held a press conference to express his disgust at the level of illicit drug use prevalent in Australia today.
“As a citizen and as a parent I am appalled at what is happening on our streets and in our homes,” he said.
It’s also making people less photogenic he said.
“The propensity for violence, the propensity to subsequent very serious mental illness, the propensity to disfigurement which ice produces means that this is a drug epidemic way beyond anything that we have seen before. And the last thing we need is more ugly people on the streets,” he said.
Although drug addiction is widely regarded as a mental health issue, the Prime Minister decided against allocating any funds or resources towards Australia’s struggling mental health frontline services, instead opting for a greater investment in police services that are focused on prosecuting dealers and users, because, well, that whole “war on drugs” thing has worked so well in the past.
RELATED: Mental Health services personnel say help is needed on the frontline.
UNRELATED: Tony Abbott’s approval rating slumps right across Australia.
theguttertrash.com 
Does this Fuckwit® ever DO anything POSITIVE?
Abbott just doesn’t get it … ice isn’t the only drug that makes you ugly …
… my own gravatar is testament to the effectiveness of Wild Turkey & soda* (that’ll be $10, please, sir!) 🙂
… and there’s more than a couple here suffering early ageing symptoms from altar whine … and check out ToM and sreb from all that shiraz!
*Bowler’s Run Semillon Sauvignon Blanc hasn’t helped much either …
…Although drug addiction is widely regarded as a mental health issue, the Prime Minister decided against allocating any funds or resources towards Australia’s struggling mental health frontline services, instead opting for a greater investment in police services…
Still playing to the base, nice headlines, is this a polling week?
KL, police are not as outspoken as doctors … much easier to control …
BTW, how’s the weather down there? 😉
You know The Mad Abbott is being coached when he uses phrases like … “There are massive quantities of this pernicious and evil drug coming into our country all the time.”
A journalist should have asked him to explain just what “pernicious” means … his usually vocabulary would include … “shit happens” …
You could say tagging along with the Septic Tanks to most of its invasions is pernicious too …
“”this pernicious and evil drug””
Can a drug actually be “evil?”
“”Evil”” suggests that it has some form of conscious intent.
It’s just a substance FFS, albeit a particularly harmful one.
Abbott’s propensity to couch everything in religion-speak is mind numbingly tiresome…
It’s the frontline mental health services that need more support, not the cops…
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2015/s4212223.htm
…BTW, how’s the weather down there?…
It was pretty cool TB, trackies in the mornings for me. I got home yesterday and back to work tomorrow, really don’t feel ready for it [work].
…You know The Mad Abbott is being coached when he uses phrases like … “There are massive quantities of this pernicious and evil drug coming into our country all the time.”…
‘pernicious’ and ‘evil’ sound to me like his own words, he likes to embellish his messages with a bit of christian preaching . Life is black and white to him, good vs evil, onward christian soldiers!
Let’s not forget “hyperbowl”
or ‘suppository of wisdom’
Taskforce teabag.. the drug is evil!!! No Tony its just a inanimate chemical compound you imbecile.
Standard Neo Liberal response all effect no cause affect, grab a headline then effectively use it increase police powers giving the delusion of citizen safety… Zero tolerance is zero understanding with zero effect
Here is the pointy end…
Stop doing this and wasting money…. just legalise pot. concentrate on the bad shit and getting medical services for people effected by this scurge.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-27/cannabis-plantations-discovered-in-nsw-national-park/6048844/?site=midnorthcoast
http://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/2763456/bush-bust-cops-score-10m-cannabis-crop/
‘suppository of wisdom’ is so statesman like! When Abbott admitted he wasn’t the ‘suppository of wisdom’ I think he was saying that most people would like him to stick his “wisdom” up his a**e
He has Wisdom Tom? got a link for that? ..
post””””new Federal Police Task Force `Operation ICE Hysteria` to tackle the so-called `ice epidemic` that threatens to destroy the very thin fabric that””””””#is-mr-rabbits-polling-results
#While continuing to ignore root-causes and””””’Neglecting to tackle the societal precursors that tend to lead to drug use (poverty, unemployment, social isolation), Mr Abbott instead held a press conference””””””’
#Mr-rabbit has appointed former-plod ken-lay,”””””opting for a greater investment in police services that are focused on prosecuting dealers and users, because, well, that whole `war on drugs` thing has worked so well in the past.””””’#as approved in teh-usa
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#as soon as l heard the zombie announcing this, it smelled like a desperate, irrelevant, `clutching-at-straw` moment by team-teabag. Let`s face it, mr-rabbit and his zombies haven`t given a flying fcuk about the down-trodden (of-all-flavors) in society, after all, they have done most of the `trodding`.
l wonder lf mr-rabbit got a `heads-up` on tonights reportland, plenty of `ice` floating around in adf/a by the looks of it. lce being used because it is out of `body` in 24-hours, they avoid `choof` because of long `in-body` time, and get caught with drug-tests #navy #stirling #west-coast?
Alcohol a bigger problem than ice, says Jeff Kennett
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/alcohol-a-bigger-problem-than-ice-says-jeff-kennett-20150408-1mgmrh.html
…Former Victorian premier Jeff Kennett has questioned what Tony Abbott’s ice taskforce will achieve and appealed for “courageous” leadership on the bigger problem of alcohol.
Mr Kennett has called for a total ban on alcohol advertising and sponsorships, saying the key to tackling the ice epidemic is education.
His stand was endorsed by the president of the Australia Drug Law Reform Foundation, Alex Wodak, who said he found it hard to take the setting up of the ice taskforce seriously…
How to fix democracy, a la Francaise:
http://www.crikey.com.au/2015/04/08/how-to-fix-democracy-a-la-francaise/
…And the story of democratisation is that where the Left leads, the Right eventually follows. Britain’s Labour Party, for example, first gave its rank-and-file members a say in electing the party leader back in 1983; it was 2001 before it happened in the Conservative Party as well…
…The question remains: why has Australia been so slow on the uptake for reforms like this? Our parties are just as hollowed out as those in Europe, but they seem to lack the motivation for serious engagement with their supporters.
Labor has advanced to something like where the British Labour Party was 30 years ago; the Liberal Party, with its even more hierarchical traditions, is further back still, and is most unlikely to consider any change until it finds itself in opposition again…
Really, how can anyone find this to be OK?
…Queensland Police received $475k worth of private donations in 2013-14 financial year, figures show:
http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/international/2015-04-07/queensland-police-received-475k-worth-of-private-donations-in-201314-financial-year-figures-show/1434032
Mining companies, banks, media organisations and security firms are among a raft of sponsors behind almost $475,000 in donations to the Queensland Police Service last financial year.
The donations for this financial year are on track to reach the same level…
“Alcohol a bigger problem than ice, says Jeff Kennett”
Possibly, but I’d be more concerned about my kids hanging around with people that take ice, than people that go to the pub.
I think Kennett remains the turd he always was and suffers from relevance deprivation syndrome from time to time. This causes him to say stuff for the sake of it.
xeno””””””””Seriously? Apple tells Senate tax inquiry it doesn`t know how much of its $6B Aust revenues are shifted to Ireland (@Nick_Xenophon) April 8, 2015”””””””””””
#while it makes good tv, l reckon xeno, milne and sam are pushing raw-sewage up-hill. l doubt the monster-corps are `breaking` any laws, they`re more than likely just using the pathetic laws that pathetic politicians (past and present) have in place.
#in the $6Bill, all it showed was apple-king wasn`t wanting to say they ship-out the $6bill to where-ever, the apple-king `should` have just said `yes, we ship-out the $6bill, under the system YOU allow`
#there doesn`t seem to be any teabags on the panel
How come when we have a budget problem lefties mainly look for more ways to raise revenue. Why don’t we look into ways we can cut spending?
I cannot believe that their is no waste in the Public Service that could not be cut.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ What a fucking imbecilic comment NIL ^^^^^^^
Trifecta of stupidity, ignorance and spite Congratulations,,
“while it makes good tv, l reckon xeno, milne and sam are pushing raw-sewage up-hill. l doubt the monster-corps are `breaking` any laws”
It doesn’t even make good TV unless you get off on wanking politicians big-noting themselves, talking in slogans about stuff they are too stupid to understand.
There is no evidence that these companies are breaking the law. Australia has tax treaties with Singapore and Ireland which allocate taxing rights between them. This is a more general problem – that the agreed allocation methods are seen as unfair. That is why the OECD is working on a new set of allocation rules.
Meanwhile we have to put up with posturing turds like Dastyari. He, like Little Billy Two Knives, is emblematic of the cancer that is eating the ALP. He too is a careerist Unionland hack who has never done and honest day’s work in his life.
Dastyari dropped out of law, did a politics degree, worked initially with lobbyists Hawker Britton. He was elected as General Secretary of NSW Labor in March 2010 with the support of the Transport Workers’ Union, the Electrical Trades Union, and the Australian Workers Union and was appointed to the Senate (instead of Warren Mundine).
Mundine lacked union connections, was a good bloke and thinks for himself all of which make him entirely unsuitable for ALP pre-selection.
Why don’t we look into ways we can cut spending?
Probably because the spending has already been cut to the bone, as hockey finally realised when they came to power. Yet they cut again anyway.
Slowly the eyes of the media re turning back to where Labor were trying to get traction during their term
Corporate ripoffs and super rorts. No longer do the media label this “class warfare”. What a turn around.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/treasury-boss-john-fraser-calls-for-a-fundamental-rethink-of-superannuation-pensions-20150408-1mgqwq.html
Where are all you soft-cock Libertarians now? Surely we should legalise Ice – drop the price and make it more readily available.
Won’t global warming kill the ice trade anyway?
Technology killed the ice trade. I can remember the ice man delivering blocks of it to my great-aunt’s ice chest in early1960s country NSW.
I note Labor are being blamed for backing down on the RET
“Negotiation”, coalition style
Labor’s explanation
https://amp.twimg.com/v/5a00d9eb-ff51-4650-ace3-8b74f4b9a8ff
TR, the changes being proposed by ACOSS and Xylophone are very knee jerk and will hurt quite a few part pensioners – once again on the lower end of the scale …
I’ve just been doing my own calcs based on the latest brain farts and we can juggle around the worst case scenario (ACOSS’s) into our nineties … but based on guessing the return on invested capital …
I think people confuse the assets test with the income test and are unaware that assets include non-productive depreciative assets that don’t earn anything … its the people at the top end – with access to trust funds that are really fiddling the system …
If changes are made I do hope someone points out that those of us already retired and those about to have to plan for decades … to suddenly changes the rules will not only change lives of some age pensioners – and their families – materialistically but psychologically and emotionally too …
Guess what happen if pensioners have less to spend in the economy too?
Won’t global warming kill the ice trade anyway?
Clever shite!
Where are all you soft-cock Libertarians now?
Who are you referring to, sb? What’s a “soft cock Libertarian”? Isn’t that a Yankee term?
It’s always interesting to see people attack the superannuation savings of people in the private sector who try to save for their own retirement.
What they never seem to address is the huge and remaining rort that the continuing defined benefits scheme represents in the public service.
I saw a while ago that Nick Sherry (the former ALP minister) nominated this rort as a $200b unfunded liability. How about getting stuck into this bit of public service rorting and privilege?
TB, I’m as libertarian as the next chap, but I probably would not legalise Ice. So I’m a soft-cock libertarian, I suppose. Whereas ToSY might go all the way with Milton Friedman on this:
“Legalizing drugs would simultaneously reduce the amount of crime and also the quality of law enforcement. Can you conceive of any other measure that would accomplish so much to promote law and order?” and “I’m in favor of legalizing drugs. According to my value system, if people want to kill themselves, they have every right to do so. Most of the harm that comes from drugs is because they are illegal.”
once again on the lower end of the scale
It is always the way with the Libs, hit the softest targets, just like an ice addict would. And, this is after scrapping a 15 per cent tax on super earnings over $100,000. When will the media highlight this brazen hypocrisy?
In ADCA’s 46 year history, the Abbott govt is the only govt deciding it could do without their expert advice
And then announces a “War on Ice”. With every indication it will be all about policing and penalties. Has anything concrete been announced, or is this an announcement for an announcement? And, will the War displace Disney? And. When will the media highlight this brazen hypocrisy?
Yeah lefties how about we stop stuff like this
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/archive/news/how-to-retire-at-40/story-e6frg6o6-1111117493984
“RETIRING NSW MP Reba Meagher is walking away from parliament with an annual pension of more than $120,000 a year………………..Ms Meagher, 40, announced her resignation from parliament on Saturday after deciding not to contest the health portfolio in the cabinet reshuffle.’
Yeah lets look over there while our own people have their snouts in the trough.
So here is a different approach:
Will this work?
“”Will this work?””
I don’t think so. When people like Milton Friedman expressed their libertarian approach to legalising drugs it was no doubt during a time when heroin was the most “problematic” drug.
It’s only in the last ten years or so that ice has emerged to overtake heroin and has far more devastating effects.
“His plan would have the state hire chemists to create their own pure form of ice and administer it to addicts in a safe place.”
One of the main differences between ice and heroin is that people who take heroin tend to just fall asleep, so they pose very little threat to a healthcare worker working in a heroin injecting centre. They pass out. They wake up a few hours later, then go home.
Ice users on the other hand become hyper and unpredictable. One hit can last for up to 8 hours and with most users taking multiple hits to maintain the high they can be hyper for days on end. I fail to see how this could be regulated in a controlled setting.
Heroin users seldom pose a threat to the general public other than crimes like theft to support their habit, whereas ice users do.
As we all know, ice is much more addictive than heroin, and it’s much easier for users to source or manufacture themselves.
I don’t think there are any easy answers but I’m convinced that Abbott’s tough on drugs police talk isn’t really going to achieve anything.
There’s a drug and alcohol rehabilitation centre in North Melbourne that has just had to “let go” its frontline psychologists who were specifically focused on treating addicts due to funding cuts.
In regional centres there are no treatment centres whatsoever, so ice addicts have nowhere to turn for help.
This is where the government should be focusing its funding, not just on giving the cops more power to lock people up. But funding community health centres probably doesn’t suit Abbott’s get tough bully boy bravado image.
It’s also worth mentioning that one of the aims of the heroin injecting centres was to encourage users to get into detox and rehab programs, methadone and counselling etc…
From what I understand, acute heroin withdrawal typically lasts 5 – 7 days, and then people can go on to receive counselling and methadone to relieve cravings.
With ice, there is no methadone equivalent, so users basically have to deal with the withdrawals cold turkey.
Additionally, ice destroys the dopamine receptors in the brain, which can take 12 – 24 months to start to recover. This means users are plunged into a deep depression that can last for two years, which is why the drug is so addictive. The only relief is to take another hit.
But funding community health centres probably doesn’t suit Abbott’s get tough bully boy bravado image.
Probably ❓ 😯
“… Most of the harm that comes from drugs is because they are illegal.”
Jesus Christ where do they come from … in fact where is Jesus Christ, anyway?
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Yeah lets look over there while our own people have their snouts in the trough.
What do you think I’ve been saying for the last 18 months?
1. Repeal Negative Gearing Laws
2. Repeal Trust Funding Laws
3. Repeal Politicians Post Election Perquisites (Perqs to you)
ALL politicians get the same perqs …
4. And now we can add Clamp Down On International Robber Barons Overseas Tax Rorting Schemes
With the latter, to add insult to injury, the International Robber Barons also charge higher prices in Australia …
I did find the Apple CEO’s obfuscations amusing, especially this little gem … “we buy our products at arm’s length prices” (from Singapore) … ie we buy a product for $100 sell it for $99 and post a loss – no tax … in Singapore the $99 less manufacturing costs will have 20% tax applied …
DID SOMEONE SAY 20%!!!!
Some reasonable debate over the not illegal act of downloading content (please take note msm)
Will this work?
Alongside the cigarette factory and the brewery I guess …
NEW engines. New avionics. New radar. That’s the US Air Force shopping list of upgrades for a jet fighter that isn’t even finished yet: The controversial F-35 stealth fighter.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/us-air-force-general-wants-to-upgrade-f-35-avionics-engines-payload/story-fnpjxnlk-1227296438427
No wonder they want to target part age pensioners … how many extra did The Mad Abbott order?
“Labor proposed top end super reforms to raise $10b over 10 yrs, ”
Labor proposed? Did they do anything?
Fact is there would have been no problems if you deadbeats did not vote for Rudd in 2007.
Vote for Howard in 2007 and problems would not have existed.
“Ice users on the other hand become hyper and unpredictable”
Hyper is not the word.
I had a rather nice lunch with a few of my former colleagues at Potts Point yesterday.(Potts Point is located next to Kings Cross).
As I drove down Darlinghurst Road with a friend who lives in the area we witnessed one shirtless heavily tattooed chap go absolutely apeshit screaming and trying to punch two other equally unsavoury looking characters before cops came from everywhere to pin all three of them down on the footpath and roadway.
My passenger calmly said……………..
“Äll of them are crazy on ice around here, such brawling is so common only the tourists ever stop to look “
“”Australian banks under pressure after French lenders rule out funding Galilee Basin coalmines””
LOL
She makes a story out of lenders asked if they would fund a project that they have not been asked to fund and is surprised to get a statement back saying they would not be lending to projects in that area.
Labor proposed? Did they do anything?
Considering hockey actually made changes to the proposal then obviously “something” was done. And then undone.
http://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/business/taxation/2014/06/07/the-buried-treasures-corporate-tax-avoidance/1402063200#.VSXBM5Nm9W0
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/former-premier-campbell-newman-reveals-he-twice-offered-to-quit-before-2015-state-election/story-fnn8dlfs-1227296198997
I’m so happy sometimes that the Liberal Party can’t make decisions … sometimes!
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.(Potts Point is located next to Kings Cross).
Is it? Chuckle … 🙂
Too funny
Labor just has to propose something and that is enough.
Fact is labor trashed the budget and their supporters do not give a stuff.
one shirtless heavily tattooed chap go absolutely apeshit screaming and trying to punch two other equally unsavoury looking characters
I have seen that quite a bit in Adelaide.
It’s why I don’t go to Power matches anymore 😉
Labor just has to propose something and that is enough.
You’re really not quite with it today are you nIl.
Too funny deadbeat.
There were no problems in 2007 unless Australia voted for Rudd/Gillard.
TomR, Reb, TB, Walrus, Toilet, Tom, Kittypoo et al voted for Rudd and created all these problems.
Its an ill nil that blows no good, TR …
And the tweets above are just a glimpse of the Evil Empire being created in Canberra … do people not understand what Star Wars was all about?
do people not understand what Star Wars was all about
Wookies!!!
There were no problems in 2007 …. until the unsustainable budgetary position caught up with us.
Finished fer ya dil
“”TomR, Reb, TB, Walrus, Toilet, Tom, Kittypoo et al voted for Rudd and created all these problems.””
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…………………..
I’m actually beginning to dislike you rather intensely
Sorry Walrus
Actaully i am not sorry.
All our problems are because YOU voted for Rudd in 2007.
“”All our problems are because YOU voted for Rudd in 2007.””
No Neil, all YOUR problems are because YOU keep forgetting to take YOUR meds.
Walrus http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Green_tick.png
NIL http://www.quickmeme.com/img/58/58ec58f8ae9f4a1352876f2dc26b974db6cd25bd92ca8d3fe58d11c8cf997a7c.jpg
The president of the Australia Drug Law Reform Foundation, Alex Wodak said he found it hard to take the setting up of the ice taskforce seriously.
“It’s hard to not take the view that he [Mr Abbott] is a politician desperately fighting for his political survival, whose thought bubble for the day is, ‘Look over here at this shiny thing I’ve just done’,” Dr Wodak said.
He questioned the wisdom of “picking out one drug from the whole smorgasbord of drugs” and said one of the government’s early acts was to defund the Alcohol and other Drugs Council of Australia “for no apparent reason”,
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/alcohol-a-bigger-problem-than-ice-says-jeff-kennett-20150408-1mgmrh.html?stb=twt
“TomR, Reb, TB, Walrus, Toilet, Tom, Kittypoo et al voted for Rudd and created all these problems.
Heavens!! So you’re the funny little guy that was looking over my shoulder in the voting booth.
The NBN continues to be trashed
Following a map update yesterday, NBN Co has removed approximately 58 thousand premises that were previously slated for a Fibre to the Premises rollout from its rollout map.
http://jxeeno.com/blog:nbn-co-culls-more-areas-from-rollout-map
Go for it journos. There’s a story there somewhere, I’m sure 😉
I see our meeja is still selling the libs line and continuing to misrepresent Labor.
‘This is their first offer’: Tony Abbott puts pressure back on Labor over renewable energy target
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WHAT THEY WANT
GOVERNMENT
Initially wanted to reduce the 41,000GWh target to 27,000GWh.
Compromised to 32,000GWh but insists this is its final offer.
LABOR
Compromised to 33,500GWh.
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INDUSTRY
Renewables industry: 32,500Gwh.
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/this-is-their-first-offer-tony-abbott-puts-pressure-back-on-labor-over-renewable-energy-target-20150409-1mh8ut.html
Except, news to the newsworthless, Labor have had several offers on the table, which this “reporter” chooses not to report. And, Labors offer is the same as the Clean Energy Council of 33,500Gwh, so I don’t know where the “Renewables industry: 32,500Gwh” is plucked from?
But, some history which has been blotted from this churnalists view.
Labor has indicated it is prepared to support exempting the aluminium industry from the scheme, which would bring the 41,000 target down to around 39,000 gigawatt hours, but appears unwilling to move very far beyond that point.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/oct/21/climate-change-authority-to-conduct-second-renewable-energy-target-review
Labor has described the 32,000GWh offer as “unacceptable”, and has drawn the line at 35,000GWh, with a preference for the high 30,000GWhs.
http://reneweconomy.com.au/2015/abbott-lays-out-ret-ultimatum-as-climate-denialism-deepens-10640
LABOR
Compromised to 39,000GWh.
THEN Compromised to 35,000GWh.
THEN Compromised to 33,500GWh.
Fuck our media are dipshits. Tomorrow they’ll be complaining that Labor can’t make up their mind and keep on changing the fucken target.
Walrus
Did you vote for Rudd in 2007?
splattering””””””Meanwhile we have to put up with posturing turds like Dastyari”””””’
#you didn`t seem to mind the posturing turd (and squanderer of economic-boom) john-w, that did all he could to `gift`-away to corp-rot monsters and take-away from citizens for near 12-years.
Reuters””””””’A white South Carolina police officer has been fired after being charged with murder for shooting a black man in the back as he fled”””””’
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/08/us-usa-south-carolina-shooting-idUSKBN0MY28220150408
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”””””With Scott slumped facedown on grass, Slager is seen placing him in handcuffs and then walking back to a spot near where he opened fire. The video then shows him appearing to pick (#taser)something up, return to Scott, and drop it next to him.”””””’
#teabag.fairness #teabag.equality
#lt is good to see the `weapons-dropping` aspect of this crime is caught on the video too, which is another `military` practice that has been going-on in lraq/afghan, as police forces become more militarized.
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/hockey-eyes-internet-goods-for-gst/story-e6frfku9-1227297639480
There are none so blind … what a bunch of turkeys we elect to NINE bloody parliaments all working AGAINST the people who vote for them …
“#you didn`t seem to mind the posturing turd (and squanderer of economic-boom) john-w,”
Did he? Or is this just another labor Party lie? The boom did not start until 2004, well after Howard was elected.
I’m actually beginning to dislike you rather intensely
Kneel, runs parallel to The Mad Abbott in so many ways … slowly pissing different (groups) of people off bit by bit …
This has to be the worst government in my lifetime … and Menzies was the first Oz PM I ever knew of …
Actually Rudd/Gillard was worse.
The ALP trashed our borders, trashed our budget and trashed everything they touched.
It will take a generation to clean up the mess.
from my many travels l noticed,
http://jxeeno.com/blog:nbn-co-culls-more-areas-from-rollout-map
that team-cheerers should notice,
the `culled` nbn-areas of werribee and footscray are working-class areas, and also the `seats` of blib and/or joolya and/or nanny-roxon,
and blacktown and liverpool are working-class areas, tho l don`t know the `seats`, should l `guess` these are teabag-lite seats too.?
#better get ya`arse into gear team-cheerer, and check-up if olden-ill and lizbeth and similar areas of canoe-town are getting `nbn-culled` too.
Ulike Nils who continues to trash his credibility, morality, judgment and intellectual capacity with the most mundane repetitive partisan diarrhea ….
One would think this asshat would get sick of repeating the same shit day in day out.. watch him disappear when Abbott and this fiscally incompetent criminals are kicked back to the political serer from whence they crawled.
Meanwhile the starsi regime of despot Abbott and the forth Reich like all aspirant Totalitarian regimes funds propaganda whilst heralding an end to wasteful spending..
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-09/tv-drama-to-deter-asylum-seekers/6381092
When does good government start?
From Koukamaniac
Iron ore US$t
Apr 2010: $172.00
Dec 2009: $100.00
Apr 2008: $60.80
Apr 2007: $36.63
Apr 2006: $33.45
Apr 2005: $28.11
Apr 2004: $16.39
The boom happened under Rudd/Gillard who wasted the biggest mining boom in our history
…Kneel, runs parallel to The Mad Abbott in so many ways … slowly pissing different (groups) of people off bit by bit …
neil has finally succumbed to his own BS, just a looney caricature of a RWNJ these days, no attempt made to be lucid or rational, he’s in a world of his own creation. The madman in the basement.
RIP poor neil, I hardly knew him.
I have no issue with this proposal
‘Netflix’ tax set for budget as Joe Hockey looks to extend GST reach
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/netflix-tax-set-for-budget-as-joe-hockey-looks-to-extend-gst-reach-20150409-1mhrbj.html
I’m not a fan of the GSt, but, everyone should operate under the same rules. I also have just signed up to netlix, on their bottom rung, which doesn’t include HiDef, and we still get plenty of lag, and it will only get worst
When the Labor government decided to build a fibre-to-the-premises (FTTP) network, it was these new services, like Netflix, that the people who designed the original NBN (some 400 of them) had in mind.
However, in his infinite wisdom Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull, who arrived on the scene in 2013, decided that Australia didn’t need such a high level of quality telecoms infrastructure – and as well as this he claimed that poor, hard-up Australia simply could not afford such a network investment.
https://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2015/4/9/technology/failing-netflix-stress-test
So, the grubmint looks the other way at murdoch looting taxpayers, but are quick off the mark to hit his competitors. It speaks volumes.
RIP poor neil, I hardly knew him.
Consider yerself a lucky Kitty AO 😉
Meanwhile, ltdnews plumbs the depths again. They really have no moral compass. This must have been from yesterdays front page
Anyone who says the current govt is the worst ever is insane.
It was Rudd/Gillard who turned a $20B surplus into a $20B deficit in one year. At least Hockey has not made the budget deficit worse. Lets hope he can start to make the deficit smaller.
As to the corporate tax avoidance, the libs talk the talk, but their walk is vastly different
The axing of 4400 jobs at the Australian Taxation Office (ATO) has hit the government’s ability to police corporate tax avoidance and emboldened corporations looking to shrink the amount of money they pay, the union representing Tax Office staff has told a Senate hearing into corporate tax avoidance has heard.
http://www.governmentnews.com.au/2015/04/multinational-tax-take-bleeds-after-huge-ato-staff-cuts/
The guys at Something Wonky have been pushing this point for months now. It’s nothing new, but seems to slide past our ever sleepfull meeja.
At least Hockey has not made the budget deficit worse.
And he accuses others of lying 😆
http://www.crikey.com.au/2015/02/03/remember-labors-skyrocketing-debt-the-coalitions-is-much-worse/
The guys at Something Wonky have been pushing this point for months now. It’s nothing new, but seems to slide past our ever sleepfull meeja.
Its not a problem at all, TR … those dastardly Baby Boomers did it!
They’ve got all the money and all the houses and all the jobs … let’s just fleece them instead … you know, the ones that actually paid income tax and provisional tax and goods and services tax and 16% mortgage rates … and saved for retirement and lost half of it in the GFC … and support their kids and their kid’s kids …
While Australia was/is raped by Robber Barons, Poxy Politicians and Trade Agreements with anyone who wants something we have … and they don’t!
What a beautiful morning! 🙂
“And he accuses others of lying”
Hockeys first budget was last year. The results come out in September this year. That is when we find out what the deficit will be. It is unlikely that it will be double what was forecast. It will be nothing in error like Swan who forecast a $20B surplus for his first budget and it ended up a $20B deficit. A $40B turnaround.
How do you spell GST dopey 😯
those dastardly Baby Boomers did it!
YOU dastardly Baby Boomers did it! 😉
Like was said yesterday TB, soft targets, that’s who the grubmint will go after, while rewinding (and more) everything Labor did to make hose #robberbarons pay their fair share.
Tom R has a record of suggesting that the deficit isn’t a problem. Is it now a problem with the Liberals in government?
“”Walrus
Did you vote for Rudd in 2007?””
LOL
Would you have voted for Billy McMahon ?
Richie Benaud has died aged 84
Will murdoch run a tag line of “Wide and Seek”?
Tom R has a record of suggesting that the deficit isn’t a problem.
Doesn’t HAVE to be a problem, get it right yomm
Is it now a problem with the Liberals in government?
It is fucken hypocrisy of the highest order is what it is. It is also a problem because the deficit is being blown supporting #robberbarons whilst simultaneously bashing those worst off. And with no respite for decades now instead of years under Labor’s projections.
It’s obvious nIl doesn’t do complexity
Dec 2009: $100.00
Apr 2008: $60.80
Apr 2007: $36.63
Numbers with no real meaning without context. Here’s your context
In the first six months of 2009. ……………….. the Australian mining industry had quite a deep recession while the Australian economy did not have a recession.
http://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Estimates/Live/commttee/S13174.ashx
Fact file: The rise of ice and the changing face of Australian drug use…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-10/fact-file3a-drug-facts/6374696
Interesting article, reb. Especially about the drugs, which I know nothing about. I still don’t know what can be done about the stuff that makes people violent. At that point it ceases to be a victimless crime.
Also, I would have thought that this is a statement of the bleeding obvious:
Seriously, I have never known anyone who drinks regularly to stop at two drinks.
“”Seriously, I have never known anyone who drinks regularly to stop at two drinks.””
I usually just have the two…
“”Seriously, I have never known anyone who drinks regularly to stop at two drinks.””
I know, me neither….
Especially those piddly little standard glasses that hold 150ml of wine.
That’s not a glass…. It’s a fkn insult!!
Geeze walrus two tick in one thread.. 🙂
ROTFL.. I recon the Abbot is about as popular and less capable… he certainly doesn’t have a hot wife
What bullshit, the game has been stacked for years
The Netfix tax is just a distraction.. the studios and record companies have been screwing us for years with territories and Geo Blocking.. . MAte you should have got a proxy like UNOtelly, pay the same amount per month and get 10 times the titles on the same service. Too late now they have your IP nailed to your credit card.
Where do you think this pressure is coming from? FUCKING NEWS LTD LOSING MONEY ON FOXTEL..
Prediction.. the Metadata laws introduced on the premise of TEWWA will be used to enforce corprotocracy geoblocking and tax collection…
EBAY is next..
Watch this space
pay the same amount per month and get 10 times the titles on the same service.
True, but, then you would be ripping Netflix off, as that is against their terms of service.
I’m not sure why the catalogue is so much smaller here, maybe because it is a start up, and they need to see if our infrastructure will cope before going full bore. But, I’ll admit I’m quite happy with the delivery and selection. No more downloading series I can watch legitimately. And the few dropouts is not enough to worry about and far better than our crappy digital reception.
As for credit cards, that been online for years, I have no qualms about that anymore.
I do agree about the metadata laws though, they are there for copyrights, not tewwawists.
And I haven’t heard a peep of complaint from the previously OUTRAGED “free speech” advocates who were so worried about an “opt out” service for kiddy safe internets.
That word “Hypocrite” is getting a workout these days.
Huh? I have been a subscriber for two years.. they know I use a proxy, they only decided to enter this market when they hit the about the 100k subscribers here (they pinged uno tele and a few others and did some guesswork on that.
The catalogue here is smaller because of the fucking assholes in the studios like FOX doing separate territorial licensing deals.. they don’t want the shows licenced to their subsidiary foxtel being available in the same region on Netflix… get it????
The servers are not here.. they are distributed all over the world.. but the content lives in the states.. they have no infrastructure here apart from some offices.
startup? Netflix own the streaming market as the biggest player after Youtube.. now a bigger subscription model than HBO. They produce a 500 million dollars worth of content each year and are turning over in excess of 5.2 billion USD in revenue
Huh?
It is only recent, but it is there. Don’t be surprised if they get narky with you 😉
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2015/04/netflix-hints-at-future-vpn-lockdown/
get it?
I certainly understand Foxtels protectionist racket. But, content like that is a different game from trying to install grubmints to effect infrastructure projects to protect your empire. As much as I dislike Foxtel, they still have a right to what they have paid for. The fact they are fucking assholes doesn’t really change that. I’m pretty sure, given time and market share, Netflix (and other players) will expand their selection.
startup?
In this country, but you know that’s what I meant 😉
Window dressing… most of their subscriber base use proxies wifi networks.. ect.. that article is complete bullshit.. there is no way the global citizen must be tied to an IP related to a country and pricing regime.. I go anywhere my netflix account goes with me.. I access stuff all around the world that is geoblocked here.. I watch Orphan Black on ITV4 UK.. BBC player shows ect…
Fuck Geoblocking.. fuck their subscription model and fuck their geographic price fixing bullshit..I pay what I want to pay regardless of the reason.. let them try and sue me.. that would be fucking awesome
No fucking way I am going to go backwards… to service some corporate monopoly.
Here is a little hack tip for you actually. If you get a free Unotele account, then log onto the proxy and set it for the USA, your account will work in the states… giving you access to 10k of titles.
It works in reverse. If I turn my proxy off Netfix thinks I am traveling and geo restricts my American account to Australia…
Window dressing
Yet still their policy.
I’m quite happy to pay a very small price for the ease and legitimacy od watching Orphan Black (which is pretty cool) whenever I want. And I’m not ripping anyone off.
All we needed was a competitive and affordable system to watch shows. We have one (well, several, excluding Pronto, fuck them)
As long as our infrastructure holds out, I’m quite happy to play by the rules. The big question is, once these streaming platforms really take off, will our infrastructure just die?
I usually just have the two…
You’re certainly looking a lot younger, sreb …
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It is only recent, but it is there. Don’t be surprised if they get narky with you
So what happened to all this Global Market Level Playing Field Free Trade Agreement shite?
All we get is to piss in the wind …
Seriously, I have never known anyone who drinks regularly to stop at two drinks.?
Its easy, sb, I vae two drinks stop for a few minutes and then have another two … I can go all night on two drinks …
“vae” is Celtic for “have” … Celtic is my favoured language when I have two drinks …
“I’m not sure why the catalogue is so much smaller here, maybe because it is a start up, and they need to see if our infrastructure will cope before going full bore.”
As per what Ricky said…………………Copyright issues
Me and the wife dont watch that much fictional stuff.
More into News, Financial News, and Sport plus Lifestyle stuff. So for us Netflix is not that attractive for us that is. Obviously we are but a small portion of the market.
Plus we get 2 free new release movies each month but forget to watch them anyway
More into News, Financial News, and Sport plus Lifestyle stuff
mmm … that’s a bit of a surprise … I assume that’s on Foxtel, Wally?
As per what Ricky said…………………Copyright issues
I understand that, but, they have a massive catalogue overseas, I’m just guessing that they are not investing until they are certain of the infrastructure issues. Well, hoping anyway.
For the interim, I’m quite happy with the selection, so it doesn’t really bother me atm
http://www.finder.com.au/netflix-australia-vs-netflix-us-tv-shows
Although, I note they have Weeds as not available, although it is.
Bloody Carbon Tax!!
And yes, my son was shattered when he heard Netflix doesn’t have any sports.
I have shown him Foxtels offerings, but his wallets not that keen 😉
I have shown him Foxtels offerings, but his wallets not that keen 😉
Funny that … not really … the mighty $$$$ seems to be destroying everything ….
“Plus we get 2 free new release movies each month but forget to watch them anyway”
Hehe. Me too.
Plus. Telstra has just been all benevolent and increased my monthly data allowance by 300%. I don’t
piratedownload movies, anyway (or any other large files – which they can tell). A fee reduction would have been more appropriate. Highly unlikely.“Plus. Telstra has just been all benevolent and increased my monthly data allowance by 300%”
Me to. I was on a 5GB plan. It was a really small plan. If i went over 5GB i still had internet access but at dial up speed. It was OK. I could still surf the net, post comments on blogs and pay my bills. I just cannot download movies (legally or illegally) on dial up speed. But my small plan saved me a lot of money.
Without asking they just increased my download limit to 50GB. And i get 3 free top ups per year.
Mine’s just gone from 200GB to 500GB.
I didn’t need 200GB! C**ts should have offered me a price cut.
Actually, they increased my allowance by 150%, not 300%, just to be accurate.
Unfortunately i have to connect to the NBN otherwise i will not have internet access. However the smallest plan on the NBN with Telstra is 10GB. So it is looking like i will have to spend more money.
I was really happy with my 5GB plan. It saved me heaps of money. If i went over the 5GB limit my download speed slowed to dial up speed. But that was fine. I could do everything i needed to do on dial up speed. I just could not download movies.
But my 5GB plan, home phone and mobile phone only cost me $80/month.
“but his wallets not that keen
Am I the only one interested in standards?
wallet’s
Am I the only one interested in standards?
Impossible to tell from you’re post’s 🙂
I was really happy with my 5GB plan.
U obviously dont visit the art’s thread’s two often 😉
I didn’t need 200GB!
I think with Telstra you can change plans every month without penalty. You could go to a lower download limit to save some money. You however have to stay with telstra for the next 24 months every time you change your plan.
I found a way to download large files if i needed to on my 5GB plan. By chance one Friday night i started to download a large file when I was at 4.7GB. So i only had 300MB left. I started downloading the large file a 8PM and it was not until 10AM the next day that my broadband speed was slowed. So when you go over your limit it takes some time for your download speed to be slowed.
I hope the police do not read this blog.
“”I didn’t need 200GB! C**ts should have offered me a price cut.””
Possibly not now but eventually we will all be watching in UHD in a few years. And it takes up a shitload of GB compared to HD.
“” I assume that’s on Foxtel, Wally?””
Yep
So, Wally, you pay for Foxtel that now has ads too … ?
… and there is so much free to air that is easy to record and skip the ads … much cheaper to buy a 1Tb PVR …
… and I just picked up a Chromecast from Big W for $48 … I can now watch anything on my TV that’s on the interwebby via tablet, phone or PC …
… for $65 pa I can connect to a PVN and buy/download as a Pommie or a Yank …
… I recently hacked my Samsung BD/DVD player to All Regions so I can now purchase DVDs from overseas …
“So, Wally, you pay for Foxtel that now has ads too … ?”
I record almost everything except sport. Even news and stuff I usually watch after its started (say 15 minutes later) so I just FF thru the adverts.
I’m a bit of a news and current affairs junkie ( not ACA junk news)
I pay $110 pm for the top platinum Foxtel (via Telstra) plus $50 for 50gig of ADSL2 (very fast as we are quite close to an exchange) for the house (which reminds me the contract has now finished). Never go anywhere near using all that. My business is on another plan.
But once I eventually go for a UHD 4K I’m sure that will prove inadequate
“… and I just picked up a Chromecast from Big W for $48 …”
Thinking of doing the same.
Young professionals hooked on ice a growing problem, business leaders warn…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-17/young-professionals-hooked-on-ice-ceo-business-warns/6399422?section=tas
“Young professionals hooked on ice a growing problem”
Yep,
The “Sydney Trend” is to smoke the stuff apparently.
“Only addicts take it orally” seems to be the strange view
Have you noticed an increase in ice use in Sydney Walrus? (genuinely interested to know)…
You bet there is.
Not so much up my way in the burbs, or should I say not too apparent, but whenever I travel to my inner Sydney office timeshare at Rushcutters Bay I make a point of coming off at Woolloomooloo and driving past Garden Island into Kings Cross/Potts Point and the joint is packed with genuinely spooky looking individuals with gross premature ageing and rolling eyes.
Suffice to say there are a lot of cops on the beat. But I have noticed that they now foot patrol in groups of 4 rather than 2.
I can only assume due to the “super human” strength that an out of control ice user displays.
The other thing I have noticed is the line up at the heroin injecting room does not seem to be as busy anymore. I have not witnessed anyone enter it in months as I usually get stopped at the traffic lights almost outside.
Ice is a dreadful drug. Anyone could fall victim to it or to an ice addict without any notice, reason or provocation.
Anyone could be walking down the street without a care in the world and 30 seconds later lay dead on the footpath with a knife in their back.
Absolutely anyone.
More here
http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/study-links-ice-to-violence-20140506-zr5iz.html
Absolutely anyone.
But its illegal to have concealable weapons …
very interesting Walrus, especially the bit about the lack of queues at the heroin injecting centre…
my abc”””””””””Business support group CEO Tasmania wants to explode the myth that addicts of the drug are mainly disaffected young people who do not have jobs.
It said the apparent ice epidemic was not restricted to regional areas, or the jobless, with more young professionals becoming addicts.”””””””””
#the same applied to other street-drugs too tho, didn`t it, snorting coke was the thrill for cashed-up bogans in upper middle management, while power-traders and brokers of finance, and the `sales` performers are juiced-up on `speed` with the other gordon-gecko types. Just keep the accountants on riddle-in.
#oh, isn`t it wonderful the corporates kept these types, and kicked to the kerb the `mostly` straight coal-face pleb. #yay.corporatocracy
that`s very interesting about the `injecting` rooms blubbers, thanks
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#l wonder what the `pricing-points` are comparing `ice` and `heroin`,
l don`t know how much of either is used, or how often, or the co$t of either, does anybody else.?
“”#l wonder what the `pricing-points` are comparing `ice` and `heroin`,””
I’m not sure what the street prices are, but Ice is considerably cheaper than heroin and more widely available.
I stand corrected… It appears that ICE is actually quite expensive…
Mr Dillon said criminals had dried the market out of other drugs to sell ice instead, mostly because it could sell for between$500 to $700 a gram, compared with cocaine at around $300 to $350 a gram.
http://www.governmentnews.com.au/2015/04/abbott-goes-cold-on-ice-menace/
Wow. coke 300-350, ice 500-700 that`s quite expensive, no wonder the crooks are getting into the biz, thankfully it will never be a problem for me, l have no hope in hell of ever affording it.
dillon”””””””It would be sad if as a result of all this talk all we saw was a massive media campaign saying ice is a scary drug. I think most people know that,` Mr Dillon said.”””””””””
#lt doesn`t sound like dillon has any faith in mr-rabbit finding any `ice` solutions, (who can blame him), and seems to acknowledge mr-rabbit could just be using the `ice` topic as a political distraction/photo-op.
As it happens, I had an argument with some University lecturer on twitter the other day. He was of the view that ICE isn’t really all that addictive, and that many people are able to use it recreationally without any adverse effects or becoming addicted.
While this may be the case for some, I’d suggest that these people are in the minority, and while they may feel “in control” of their usage, addiction can be something that takes hold gradually over time.
This is the article we were “discussing”…
http://gaynewsnetwork.com.au/feature/ft-national/poz-gay-men-talk-about-meth-17252.html
Frankly, I think the people quoted in the article are deluding themselves if they think their ICE use is “normal..””
While l haven`t bothered with drugs myself, and don`t even drink much, l tend to disagree with the twitter-twat and agree with you reb, in the `general` anyway, `habits` or addiction of most substances seem to `sneek-up` on the consumers.
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feeney””””””Gay men will continue to use drugs and some men will need our support to help them to develop skills to manage meth use.”””””’
#l thought the ending was a bit shitty, saying, ”””’Gay men will continue to use drugs”””’ seems to paint all gay men as drug-users, which l doubt, he should have said `some-gay-men`.
#l learned `blasting` means injecting
#l enjoyed the colorful lingo too, `top` and `bottom`, which made me think of splatter, l hope he reads it
“”`top` and `bottom`, which made me think of splatter”
LOL, I’m sure it’ll be an education for him! 🙂