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Abbott Govt Still Heading for Electoral Annihilation

May 18, 2015

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Despite media reports that the Abbott Government is supposedly enjoying a post Budget “poll bounce,” the actual facts paint a different story.

According to Newspoll, the Abbott Government has lost further ground to Labor in the wake of Joe Hockey’s second Federal Budget, slumping by 1 percentage point to 47 per cent while Labor gained 1 point to 53 per cent in the crucial election-deciding two party preferred stakes.

Curiously, the Newspoll survey methodology was to only ring landlines, not mobiles which tend to be favoured by younger voters, and then “adjusted the sample to reflect population distribution.”

Nevertheless, Newspoll still shows that the Abbott Government is on the nose with voters and Tony Abbott would still lose an election if it were held today.

However you’d be forgiven for thinking otherwise with headlines like this.

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57 Comments leave one →
  1. Tom R permalink
    May 18, 2015 11:52 am

    I love the smell of the oz ditching newspoll for ipsos in the morning 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    Whatever works for ’em I guess 😉

  2. Tom R permalink
    May 18, 2015 12:00 pm

    Ah, the gifts that keep on grifting

    Treasurer Joe Hockey has suggested the wives of senior government ministers may have kept their husbands in the dark about whether or not they “double-dipped” with their paid parental leave entitlements.

    And in an extraordinary interview, Mr Hockey has suggested his own wife doesn’t always tell him about their household finances but did not say why.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/maybe-their-wives-didnt-tell-them-joe-hockey-defends-ministers-doubledipping-on-paid-parental-leave-payments-20150518-gh3wdc

  3. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 18, 2015 12:17 pm

    So the lefties now prefer Newspoll?

    Whatever works for ’em I guess 🙂

  4. Tom R permalink
    May 18, 2015 12:25 pm

    So the lefties now prefer Newspoll?

    You got a link for that 😉

    But I do find it interesting that, up until this point, the oz has basically ignored the existence of ipsos, now they rate it over their own

    And on a day when their rants against abc bias (as opposed to a general lack of ethics and/or talent) has reached fever pitch

  5. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 18, 2015 12:37 pm

    Photo –
    *Hockey – beige shirt, beige tie, rolling eyes
    *Abbott – dyed hair, faux interest in Hockey

  6. May 18, 2015 12:49 pm

    Regardless of where you sit on the political spectrum I think we can all fairly unanimously agree that Hockey’s gastric band surgery was not exactly a success.

    But that’s not unusual, apparently…

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/lap-band-surgery-half-patients-complications/story?id=13187452

  7. May 18, 2015 2:22 pm

    Joes gastric band surgery hasn’t really worked

    Yes I agree he has been leaking shit for some time now..

  8. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 18, 2015 2:29 pm

    Blame Shorten for the Libs bounce.

    He really is a hopeless dud. As a union official he was devious rather than intelligent. He hasn’t changed.

  9. May 18, 2015 2:36 pm

    “”He really is a hopeless dud””

    AGREED!

    Especially when he has a go at “feigned sincerity” with that mealy-mouthed raspy gasping intonation in his voice usually when attempting to express his apparent exasperation over some perceived sense of injustice about Abbott Govt policy.

    Come on Blib, it’s time for you to fuck off and give Bowen or Albanese a go.

  10. May 18, 2015 6:53 pm

    “But I do find it interesting that, up until this point, the oz has basically ignored the existence of ipsos, now they rate it over their own”

    Indeed!

    Witness Bolt’s late (last) night wankery over the most favourable result.

  11. May 18, 2015 6:53 pm

    “Regardless of where you sit on the political spectrum I think we can all fairly unanimously agree that Hockey’s gastric band surgery was not exactly a success.”

    Cruel…but fair & true!

  12. May 18, 2015 6:55 pm

    “Blame Shorten for the Libs bounce.

    He really is a hopeless dud. As a union official he was devious rather than intelligent. He hasn’t changed.”

    Yes, that is a rather inescapable conclusion, is it not.

    It’s hard to imagine him rising to where he now finds himself if two poor bastards hadn’t been trapped down a mine at Beaconsfield, in fact.

  13. May 18, 2015 7:56 pm

    Watch AbbottCorp spruik this shit loud & proud…but keep silent about potential deleterious impacts upon us, mere mortals…

    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/may/18/tpp-pacific-trade-deal-could-be-two-weeks-away-if-us-fast-track-measure-passes

  14. Tom R permalink
    May 19, 2015 8:51 am

    He really is a hopeless dud

    Just a reminder to self, how was Labor sitting just after the last election?

    It’s hard to imagine him rising to where he now finds himself if two poor bastards hadn’t been trapped down a mine at Beaconsfield, in fact.

    That really is quite pathetic toilet. He found himself there helping workers because he was in a job where the aim is to …. help workers.

    Attacking him for being the person on the spot to help them out is fucken low. Where the fuck was abbott? Getting sponsorships for his lycra no doubt.

  15. Tom R permalink
    May 19, 2015 8:55 am

    Somehow, I don’t think they’ll be able to bring the same sort of firepower as the mining industry did against Labor, but every voice is worth it

    Australia’s solar industry has warned it will campaign against the Coalition in the lead up to the next federal election after an agreement was finally reached to cut the renewable energy target to 33,000 gigawatt hours.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/may/18/solar-industry-attacks-coalition-after-bipartisan-deal-struck-on-ret-scheme?CMP=share_btn_tw

    Meanwhile, the Greens remian stamping their useless feet in the background. All or nothing, and they were quite happy with nothing while it lasted. I don’t think the renewables Industry are quite so accommodating.

  16. TB Queensland permalink
    May 19, 2015 11:00 am

    That really is quite pathetic toilet.

    I must confess, TR, that the same thought has crossed my mind from time to time … although I’ve noticed that Toylet and I often raid the same biscuit barrel … 😉

  17. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 19, 2015 10:02 pm

    Photo –
    *Hockey – beige shirt, beige tie, rolling eyes
    *Abbott – dyed hair, faux interest in Hockey

    yes, the most excruciatingly awkward piece of posing, why would anyone do it? What was abbott’s hand on hockey’s arm for? it just looked so sickly and fake.

    I’m not fond of shorten either, I don’t know how long we’ll have to wait until labor give the executive and the membership an equal vote. That godbotherer union meister debruyn won’t be going anywhere either, he’ll hand over the shoppies union to another fanatic like himself as if the members are an ongoing power inheritance for catholics. No party unity on gay marriage either.

    I think labor could get rid of jenny macklin, brendan o’connor, kate ellis, kim carr, david feeney and stephen conroy.

    Liberals should get rid of the lot, start again with some fresh blood not the zombie rabble that they have now.

  18. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 19, 2015 10:07 pm

    Over 1000 Japanese Citizens Band Together To Sue Their Government Over Participation In TPP:
    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150515/07555231015/over-1000-japanese-citizens-band-together-to-sue-their-government-over-participation-tpp.shtml

    …A total of 1,063 plaintiffs, including eight lawmakers, claimed in the case brought to the Tokyo District Court that the Trans-Pacific Partnership pact would undermine their basic human rights such as the right to live and know that are guaranteed under the Constitution.

    The envisaged pact would not only benefit big corporations but jeopardize the country’s food safety and medical systems and destroy the domestic farm sector, according to their written complaint.
    As well as oft-voiced concerns that Japan’s key agricultural sector would be harmed, the plaintiffs are also worried that TPP will push up drug prices — something that is a big issue for other nations participating in the negotiations. The new group rightly points out that corporate sovereignty jeopardizes the independence of Japan’s judicial system, and said that the secrecy surrounding the talks:
    violates the people’s right to know as the document is confidential and the negotiating process will be kept undisclosed for four years after the agreement takes effect…</i.

  19. Tom R permalink
    May 20, 2015 8:24 am

    The TPP is looking like a giant turd to everyone BUT the multi nationals AO. When even the Americans are voicing concerns, you know it isn’t like a normal Trade Deal we enter into where Australia loses and the other country wins, in this, ALL countries lose. And that cannot be good for anyone except ………..the multi nationals.

    As she warned in her book Hard Choices, we shouldn’t be giving special rights to corporations at the expense of workers and consumers.”

    On this count, the current TPP doesn’t measure up. And nothing being considered by Congress right now would ensure that the TPP meets the goal of promoting domestic production and job creation.

    The text of the TPP, like all trade deals, is a closely guarded secret. That fact makes a genuine public debate impossible and should make robust debate behind closed doors all the more essential. But the ability of TPP critics like me to point out the deal’s many failings is limited by the government’s surprising and unprecedented refusal to make revisions to the language in the TPP fully available to cleared advisors.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/tpp-elizabeth-warren-labor-118068.html#ixzz3acqlCWM5

    Mind you, Clinton is making nice noises now, but Obama has shown that the POTUS is still ruled by the beneficiaries of the TPP, so watch her tune change as she gets in.

    Interesting what Labor would do/ have done. They had held held out against the inclusion of Investor-State Dispute Settlements, but, when the rubber meets the road, just what would they do?

  20. Tom R permalink
    May 20, 2015 8:32 am

    A former cardigan wearer rips apart hockeys/murdochs demonisation of families. That’ll make yomm happy (not). It also highlights just how much of a political document this budget is rather than any sort of plan for the future.

    Don’t buy the budget spin – families receiving government payments have a much lower standard of living than single people on average incomes, and are a very long way from being “welfare rich”, writes Greg Jericho.
    …………
    The spin is now even within the budget papers themselves, with the inclusion of tables purporting to show the amount different households pay in tax and receive in benefits. The tables, however, provide a very distorted picture, and fail to show a fair comparison of different households’ standards of living.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-20/jericho-budget-2015-unfair-comparisons-of-income-and-welfare/6480576

  21. Tom R permalink
    May 20, 2015 8:51 am

  22. May 20, 2015 9:17 am

    New survey puts Abbott government’s post-budget poll bounce in doubt..

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/may/19/new-poll-puts-abbott-governments-post-budget-bounce-in-doubt

  23. Tom R permalink
    May 20, 2015 9:33 am

    post-budget-bounce

    Hilarious, one rogue poll, and the grubmint is saved.

    But the media do love their “colour and movement” As long as the colours blue, and the movements their way 😉

  24. Tom R permalink
    May 20, 2015 9:35 am

    From Grogs link I mentioned above. It appears this budget is almost as nasty as last years, it’s just that they got a hell of a lot more sneaky about it

    Information withheld from the budget shows high income couples may suffer scarcely at all while low income families on benefits could lose as much as 10 per cent of their incomes.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/missing-figures-show-poor-are-hit-20140518-38i05.html

    Something about Leopards?

  25. TB Queensland permalink
    May 20, 2015 10:16 am

    And that cannot be good for anyone except ………..the multi nationals.

    Let’s call ’em what they are, TR … The Robber Barons …!

    Seems my gut feeling was right about the budget … 😎

  26. TB Queensland permalink
    May 20, 2015 10:24 am

    From sreb’s link above….

    What the budget didn’t tell you

    Projected change in real disposable income as a result of the personal tax and benefit measures in the budget

    Single person on Newstart, 23 years old

    Loss per week $47 (18.3% of disposable income)

    Single parent, one child aged 8, on Newstart

    Loss per week $54 (12.2% of disposable income)

    Single parent, one child aged 6, on Parenting Payment

    Loss per week: $54 (10.2% of disposable income)

    Single income couple, two children, 6 and 9 on average wage

    Loss per week $82 (6.4% of disposable income)

    Two income couple, three children 3, 6 and 9, average wage and one third of average wage

    Loss per week $67 (3.9% of disposable income)

    Single parent, one child aged 3, two thirds of average wage

    Loss per week $15 (1.5% of disposable income)

    Single person on three times the average wage

    Loss per week $24 (0.9% of disposable income)

    Two income couple with no children on average wage and 150% of average wage

    Loss per week: $0

    The figures are calculated for the 2016-17 tax year by which time most of the budget measures will have been introduced. They are in 2014 dollars.

    Source: Peter Whiteford and Daniel Nethery, ANU Crawford School of Government

  27. May 26, 2015 6:35 pm

    “That really is quite pathetic toilet. He found himself there helping workers because he was in a job where the aim is to …. help workers”

    No, TomR.

    I stand by my comments, which I think you may have over-egged your retort towards.

    That tragic episode, during which he did his job…and adequately fulfilled his role…allowed him a public profile to milk. If you don’t believe he’s milked that since, then we are in dispute.And by that, I mean the ‘public profile’, not the event. Probably should have qualified that earlier…?

  28. May 28, 2015 6:10 pm

    YomR?

  29. May 29, 2015 6:21 pm

    That’s what I thought…in hindsight, my comment mustn’t have been ” quite pathetic”.

  30. June 2, 2015 12:07 pm

    Reblogged this on The Grovely Gazette.

  31. June 9, 2015 10:01 am

    Both teams are scared shitless of changing donkey`s mid-race after the last 6-years. Bow-wow is a dud, near the level of blib. Even if they had the nads to switch to albo (or-other) it is probably getting too late to do the ground-work required to get the team across the line for an out-right `win` for them. Whether it would be a `win` for us, the voters, not sure.

    l reckon both teams will run their current donkey. There will not be heavy betting on blib for a win performance, tho he might place by a nose, in a watermelon quinella.

    #quinella=1st and 2nd

  32. June 9, 2015 10:12 am

    `how was Labor sitting just after the last election?””’

    #the same as now, in opposition

    #and before that.?

    #barely in power

  33. June 9, 2015 10:34 am
  34. June 9, 2015 11:48 am

    “”Professor Triggs has done her job, she is doing her job, she should remain in her job, and quite frankly, as the former prime minister of the Liberal party, the late honourable Malcolm Fraser, suggested, perhaps the prime minister and some of the ministers criticising her should consider stepping down or consider their position rather than constantly running this orchestrated campaign against her.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jun/09/coalition-accused-of-orchestrated-campaign-to-destroy-gillian-triggs?CMP=share_btn_tw

  35. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 9, 2015 12:25 pm

    Professor Triggs has done her job, she is doing her job, she should remain in her job

    She should resign. She is a partisan deadbeat.

    There are less than 100 kids in detention. Why didn’t she have her inquiry when there were 2,000???

  36. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 9, 2015 12:53 pm

    I think Triggs is ignorant of Indonesian politics if she connects their commitment to the death sentence to the government’s policy on asylum seekers.

  37. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 9, 2015 12:54 pm

    or she is being deliberately mischievous.

  38. Tom R permalink
    June 9, 2015 2:15 pm

    Gillian Triggs is obeying the law in advocating against the government’s attacks on human rights, while the government seeks ways to avoid judicial oversight of its powers.

    http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=498852

    I wouldn’t be throwing around the “ignorant” word too much is I were you yomm 😉

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    June 9, 2015 2:21 pm

    .. or she is being deliberately mischievous.

    Link?

    I think Triggs is ignorant of Indonesian politics if she connects their commitment to the death sentence to the government’s policy on asylum seekers.

    And you are more qualified to “think” this because?

  40. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 9, 2015 3:11 pm

    Gillian Triggs is obeying the law in advocating against the government’s attacks on human rights

    I have no problem with this. But if she is going to link Indonesia’s policy on the death penalty to Australia’s policy on asylum seekers, she’ll have to figure out some evidence that isn’t simply “the vibe”

  41. Tom R permalink
    June 9, 2015 3:22 pm

    she’ll have to figure out some evidence that isn’t simply “the vibe”

    You don’t consider Indonesia’s vociferous opposition to boat turn backs as some sort of evidence then yomm?

  42. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 9, 2015 3:31 pm

    I think there was a little vociferous opposition about spying on their president and his wife too, and (in my experience) this was far more of a sore point with the Indonesians that the asylum seeker policy.

    Interesting that Triggs didn’t refer to spying as a reason they aren’t engaging.

    But a spying reference may have reflected poorly on her friends reminded people of issues they’d prefer not to be reminded of.

  43. Tom R permalink
    June 9, 2015 3:36 pm

    What exactly has Professor Triggs done to deserve the thundering denunciations of this government? She has criticised its policies on human rights. She has denounced its treatment of asylum seekers. She has warned of executive overreach, of the dangers of investing ministers with more powers but without proper checks and balances and without the explicit authority of the people. And she has queried if the policy of unilaterally turning back boats carrying asylum seekers may be a reason why Indonesia and other neighbouring countries “will not engage with us on other issues that we care about, like the death penalty”.

    http://www.theage.com.au/comment/the-age-editorial/barrage-against-triggs-is-contemptible-20150608-ghitk4.html

  44. Tom R permalink
    June 9, 2015 3:37 pm

    I think there was a little vociferous opposition about spying on their president and his wife too

    Are we currently spying (well, caught out)? But we are currently still sending boats back, against their stated opposition to it.

  45. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 9, 2015 3:45 pm

    Have the Indonesians been so offended by the asylum seeker policy that they recalled their ambassador?

    In terms of offence which issue did an Indonesian President take most personally?

  46. armchair opionator permalink
    June 9, 2015 3:47 pm

    Coalition accused of orchestrated campaign to ‘destroy’ Gillian Triggs:

    http://gu.com/p/49tqt?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy to clipboard

  47. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 9, 2015 3:48 pm

    Even the articles published in The Jakarta Post don’t support Triggs and that paper mainly published material friendly to the government line.

  48. Tom R permalink
    June 9, 2015 3:53 pm

    Even the articles published in The Jakarta Post don’t support Triggs

    Is this “doesn’t support Triggs” in the same way that your guy on the radio this morning didn’t yomm? ROFL

  49. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 9, 2015 4:05 pm

    The guy Bryan Burdekin said plenty in condemnation of the government, that’s fair enough.

    But his comment that Indonesia didn’t pay attention to him 24 years ago didn’t really help him make the point that Indonesia wasn’t listening now because of a policy that is about 18 months old.

    The Jakarta Post simply pointed out that Jokowi (or any other official) had never made a comment or inference that Indonesia’s position on the death penalty had anything to to with the Australian government’s policy on asylum seekers.

    Given the denial by both Indonesia and Australia, what exactly is the reason that Triggs can link the issues?

  50. TB Queensland permalink
    June 9, 2015 4:30 pm

    Joke Break

    Just in …

    A man is driving down a deserted
    stretch of highway when he notices
    a sign out of the corner of his eye…

    It reads:
    SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS
    HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION
    10 MILES

    He thinks this is a figment
    of his imagination and drives
    on without second thought.

    Soon he sees another sign
    which reads:

    SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS
    HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION
    5 MILES

    Suddenly he begins to realise
    that these signs are for real
    and drives past a third sign saying:

    SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS
    HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION
    NEXT RIGHT

    His curiosity gets the best
    of him and he pulls into the drive.

    On the far side of the parking
    lot is a stone building with
    a small sign next to the door
    reading:

    SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS

    He climbs the steps and
    rings the bell.
    The door is answered by a
    nun in a long black habit who asks,

    ‘What may we do for you! my son?’

    He answers, ‘I saw your signs
    along the highway and was
    interested in possibly doing business….’

    ‘Very well my son. Please follow me.’
    He is led through many winding
    passages and is soon
    quite disoriented.

    The nun stops at a closed door
    and tells the man,

    ‘Please knock on this door.’
    He does so and another nun
    in a long habit, holding a tin cup
    answers the door.

    This nun instructs,
    ‘Please place $100 in the cup
    then go through the large
    wooden door at the end of the hallway.’

    He puts $100 in the cup,
    eagerly trots down the hall
    and slips through the door
    pulling it shut behind him.

    The door locks, and he finds
    himself back in the parking
    lot facing another sign:

    GO IN PEACE.

    YOU HAVE JUST BEEN SCREWED BY

    THE SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ~ Never take a sleeping pill and a laxative at the same time ~

  51. June 9, 2015 4:37 pm

    ~ Never take a sleeping pill and a laxative at the same time ~

    Sounds sensible.

  52. June 9, 2015 4:54 pm

    if triggs is really as `bias` as the teabag fear-squirts claim,

    wouldn`t blib and team be making a gold-class defense of triggs, which they don`t seem to be doing

  53. Tom R permalink
    June 9, 2015 5:57 pm

    But his comment that Indonesia didn’t pay attention to him 24 years ago didn’t really help him make the point that Indonesia wasn’t listening now because of a policy that is about 18 months old.

    But that isn’t an accurate representation of what he said, is it yomm, and you know it.

  54. Tom R permalink
    June 9, 2015 6:59 pm

    Even the UN can see what is happening from half a world away. But our local wingnuts think it’s all above board.

    The United Nations formally urged the Abbott government to stop attacking Gillian Triggs before Immigration Minister Peter Dutton branded her a “disgrace” and urged her to consider stepping down as president of the Human Rights Commission.

    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/revealed-how-the-un-told-abbott-government-to-back-off-on-gillian-triggs-20150609-ghk224.html

  55. TB Queensland permalink
    June 9, 2015 7:30 pm

    Hitler used a steamroller to control Germany …

    Just sayin’ …

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