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May 29, 2015

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WELCOME TO ROSTRUM – A RANDOM WEEKEND THREAD WHERE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHATEVER YOU LIKE! THERE HAS BEEN A LOT GOING ON THIS WEEK SO IF WE HAVE MISSED ANYTHING THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOUR SAY!!

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  1. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2015 6:12 pm

    I’M OFF FOR A DECENT MEAL AND A GOOD BOTTLE OF RED!

  2. May 29, 2015 6:22 pm

    Record losing margin tonight for Carlton, for attempting to cast aspersions upon the Crows.

    Suffer.

  3. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2015 7:09 pm

    YOUSE CAN ALL GO AND GET FUCKED!

    Compliments of Gentleman Jack, Schweppes Soda Water and a smattering of ice!

    Not that I support advertising … but special shit is OK!

    And WTF is Toylet burbling about?

  4. May 29, 2015 7:18 pm

    LOOK I’M TRYING TO WATCH A MOVIE WITH A GLASS OR TWO OF RED!

    WHICH REMINDS ME!

    WHERE’S YOUR FKN MOVIE REVIEW TB…??!!

  5. May 29, 2015 7:27 pm

    QUEENSLANDER!!!

  6. May 29, 2015 7:43 pm

    QUIANG HUANG, STILL LIFE!

  7. May 29, 2015 7:43 pm

    DITTO!

  8. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2015 8:31 pm

    WHERE’S YOUR FKN MOVIE REVIEW TB…??!!

    Please don’t shout reviews take time to simmer .. 🙂

  9. May 29, 2015 8:32 pm

    dafuq

  10. May 29, 2015 8:49 pm

    One more from Qiang Huang

  11. May 29, 2015 9:17 pm

  12. May 29, 2015 9:43 pm

    Earlier tonight on my abc, l saw an advert for a show that will go to air this week. This show (missed-the-name) will be interviews with Joolya and Kevin07.

    (Keeping in fcuking mind, that blib can`t seem to do much better than `about` 50/50 in the polls, and anybody half fcuking decent would be at 85%-minimum against current lying zombies.)

    #ls it just me trashers, or is blib`s mob about to start kicking themselves in the head for the next 18-months. Really, do blib`s team really need to give mr-rabbit every fcuking chance under the sun to defeat them.

    #From an even earlier news-clip, blib was bumbling along, pretending/ trying to claim some kind kudos on future gay-marriage legalization. Not only did blib look like a frightened rabbit during his blathering, it was largely untrue. Yep, you guessed it, the very next clip was the greenz saying gay marriage has been their policy for yonks, and team-blib shouldn`t have voted it down last time!

  13. May 29, 2015 9:46 pm

  14. May 29, 2015 10:11 pm

    Vermeer, The Music Lesson, c 1665

  15. May 29, 2015 10:23 pm

    Richard Schmid paints his daughter Gretchen, at seven. (Shades of Bill Henson, perhaps).

    http://mtdata.ru/u17/photo6FC0/20134581278-0/original.jpg#20134581278

  16. TB Queensland permalink
    May 30, 2015 9:06 am

    MOVIE REVIEW – San Andreas

    Two scientists can predict earthquakes … then they get caught in an earthquake … and another one … but save lives somehow …

    A helicopter pilot can fly through any shit, anywhere, parachute, drive boats everfink! he even saves all his family and wins back his missus!

    Pommie kids funny in places.

    Oh .. there’s a tsunami.

    The graphics and associated sound are great.

    The End

    Footnote: Filmed primarily in Brisbane, Ipswich and on the Gold Coast … some in San Francisco …

    A big plus for the local film industry

    The Minister – ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐

    TB – ⭐ ⭐ ⭐

  17. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 30, 2015 12:11 pm

    Some racist precious types are all bothered about the traditional dance Adam Goodes did last night after a goal.

    Goodes did an impromptu aboriginal dance during the round that celebrates aboriginal heritage. Really Bolt and those f**kwits need to find some other way of figuring out how to be racist offended.

  18. TB Queensland permalink
    May 30, 2015 12:57 pm

    Is that it, ToM? FMD How precious are people … they want to watch the European soccer games for “dances” … why shouldn’t he celebrate …

    Goodes is a wanker in his own right anyway …

  19. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 30, 2015 2:03 pm

    Goodes is a wanker in his own right anyway …

    i think that is why nobody likes him.

  20. May 30, 2015 3:32 pm

    boo-of melb””””Goodes did an impromptu aboriginal dance during the round that celebrates aboriginal heritage. Really Bolt and those f**kwits”””’

    #2319 .. l`m agreeing with boo of melbourne!

    #blot and his imbecile herd could really do some [not-a]racist-squirting if they see the kiwis doing their `haka` #be.afraid

  21. May 30, 2015 5:17 pm

    Hahaha!

    Bolt is calling it a “wardance of hate”. But shit like that feeds his legion of self-maligned conservative victimologists.

  22. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 30, 2015 5:18 pm

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    May 30, 2015 6:31 pm

    “Restrained”? Seriously? The man who picked out a 13-year-old girl from a crowd and told a watching nation she was the “face” of racism in Australia? The man who gave incendiary speeches as Australian of the Year damning Australia?

    This I agree with to some extent … the child was vilified and wrongly so by an adult in any society/culture!

    … while I could never understand the frustration of being one of the First People in this country … I can empathise (or attempt to ) with the way the conglomeration of states and territories, ineptly called, the Commonwealth of Australia … and atrociously managed by incompetent politicians and public servants … has treated our Keepers of the Land …

    Goodes did go a bit too far and put many mainstream Australians off side and damaged the progress achieved after Sorry Day …

    A “celebration dance”? It was unmistakably a war dance which included Goodes miming the brandishing of a spear. Why not say so?

    This is plain fkn stupid … as stupid does … has Bolt ever condemned the Haka … twit!

    Bolt could be a good (‘scuse the pun) journo but like the political party he supports he is blinded by old fashioned ideology …

  24. Team Spiked Memo permalink
    May 30, 2015 6:51 pm

  25. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 30, 2015 7:36 pm

    …This I agree with to some extent … the child was vilified and wrongly so by an adult in any society/culture!…

    I’m pleased to see aboriginal sports stars as activists and spear carriers for the self esteem of their people. Why should the culture warriors for white supremacy have it all their way?

    Public racism should be called out whenever and wherever it exists in my view. A teenager should be a bit aware of the world by then, they’ve usually managed to work out the rules of their home/family, their school and social skills with friends by that age. They also know about hurt feelings and nastiness to others at that age.
    It is time we as a grown up country had a no tolerance view of racism in public arenas, just like we seem to have a no tolerance of anti anzac speech etc.

  26. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 30, 2015 7:45 pm

    https://twitter.com/Kon__K/status/604571586193203200

  27. TB Queensland permalink
    May 30, 2015 7:45 pm

    Public racism should be called out whenever and wherever it exists in my view. A teenager should be a bit aware of the world by then, they’ve usually managed to work out the rules of their home/family, their school and social skills with friends by that age. They also know about hurt feelings and nastiness to others at that age.

    It is time we as a grown up country had a no tolerance view of racism in public arenas, just like we seem to have a no tolerance of anti anzac speech etc.

    KL, a 13 yo should not become the face of intolerance … a teenager yes … by a year! And yes I blame her environment … but the stigma is not warranted … .

    just like we seem to have a no tolerance of anti anzac speech

    Provided you can show the truth of your vitriol …

    they’ve usually managed to work out the rules of their home/family, their school and social skills with friends by that age

    C’mon, KL, I have a 13 yo g/daughter pretty smart but very naieve in so many ways … and since when has age made you smarter? Children are children … Goodes took advantage – big-time … and ignorantly …

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    May 30, 2015 7:46 pm

    I mean srsly if you’re *that* insecure that the performance of another culture’s dance *threatens you* somehow then there’s no hope for you.

    Absofknlutely!

  29. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 30, 2015 7:49 pm

  30. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 30, 2015 7:56 pm

    …C’mon, KL, I have a 13 yo g/daughter pretty smart but very naieve in so many ways … and since when has age made you smarter? Children are children … Goodes took advantage – big-time … and ignorantly …

    I’ll have to disagree with you on that TB.

    How many aboriginal kids get made to feel bad about themselves every single day of their lives?
    I am pleased that goodes took the time to educate her once he knew it was a young girl who racially abused him, he treated her sensitively and gently. A respect that his own kids probably wouldn’t get from the girl’s family.

  31. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 30, 2015 8:00 pm

  32. May 30, 2015 8:53 pm

    The “war cry” is a distraction. Footy fans are booing Goodes because of the power imbalance between a rich, famous sportsperson, and a poor, 13 year old girl. People have an inherent sense of fairness, and they know what Goodes did to her wasn’t fair. (It doesn’t help that Goodes stages for free kicks. For northerners who don’t know what that is, it’s like soccer players taking a dive.)

    For anyone who thinks the booing of Goodes is because of racism, ask yourself: why do crowds – even opposition fans – respect Cyril Rioli in a way they don’t Adam Goodes. (Just a suggestion, but maybe it’s because he plays sublime football, and leaves politics to the fuckwits in Canberra.)

  33. May 30, 2015 10:12 pm

    Go Tiges!

    (Fuck Fletch.)

  34. May 31, 2015 8:53 am

    ALAN JONES SENT LOVE LETTERS TO A SCHOOL BOY. WHY HAS HE NEVER BEEN CHARGED WITH GROOMING?

    http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2015/05/21/2gbs-alan-jones-sent-love-letters-to-a-school-boy-why-has-he-never-been-charged-with-grooming/

  35. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 31, 2015 8:57 am

    …Footy fans are booing Goodes because of the power imbalance between a rich, famous sportsperson, and a poor, 13 year old girl…

    Straight from bolt’s column, the great defender of racism artfully combines hate talk on social media and player tactics as the reason for booing goodes, then he brings in another aboriginal player [is rioli a quiet achiever and personality by any chance?] and makes him the gold standard for all aboriginal footy players. Of course there are no white players who use ‘tactics’ on field and who have a big presence is there?

    Was there another incident with a 13 yo girl at that game?

    Wealth and power doesn’t come into it, it’s irrelevant, it’s the colour of the skin in racism as any wealthy, famous black person will tell you.

  36. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 31, 2015 10:09 am

  37. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 31, 2015 10:41 am

    Adam Goodes Displays His Culture During Indigenous Round; Australia Implodes:
    https://newmatilda.com/2015/05/30/adam-goodes-displays-his-culture-during-indigenous-round-australia-implodes#sthash.SttBRhRQ.dpuf

    …They are positive images that conceal the negative images. They become unknowing icons for the belief that reconciliation can be achieved as long as blackfellas stop whinging and get on with it. It presents a distorted view of where we are in this country in regards to race relations.

    So it’s no wonder Australians would prefer that our high profile sports stars keep their advocacy restricted to wins on the sporting field…

    …News Limited columnist Rita Panahi in particular, doesn’t believe the boos are racist, saying “How anyone could think that Hawthorn fans were booing a player because of his Aboriginal heritage is beyond me. If that were the case then Goodes wouldn’t be the only player targeted.”

    But sentiments like that totally overlook the fact Goodes has been a continual target of abuse not because of what he does on the field, but because he is willing and unashamed to confront racism, in whatever form it takes…

  38. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 31, 2015 10:57 am

    Why Hawthorn supporters boo Adam Goodes: a story of class and prejudice:
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-29/alomes-why-hawthorn-supporters-boo-adam-goodes/6507282

    …The pattern of Hawthorn supporters booing Goodes – and they may not be the only ones – brings a rare political note into footy.

    Why is this happening in the game that expresses Australian social democracy at its best, the game that puts aside class, religion, ethnicity, race and most other things (although not always gender or sexual preference) for the shared experience of the players and that of the fans?

    The most logical speculation is that the booing mixes two elements: residual racism and political reaction.

    Let’s bring two unmentionables into footy: class and politics. Hawthorn’s supporter base has many fans from the upper middle classes, good boys and girls from private schools and with good bank accounts. Sometimes, with class goes conservatism. They may not like Goodes’ political radicalism on Indigenous issues and they may feel fortified by the idea that politics should be kept out of football.

    In other words, the racism is political and perhaps class-based as well…

  39. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2015 4:17 pm

    The Incompetence of The Federal Liberal Government …

    http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/queensland-roads-hit-pothole-as-200m-for-upgrades-delayed/story-fnii5v6w-1227376201263

    Maybe Queensland should secede …

  40. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 31, 2015 5:57 pm

    I don’t understand why anyone would call Goodes a wanker of boo him, of have a sense of ill will towards him.

    Possibly he’s outspoken, and that’s fair enough. He has an opportunity to use his status to provide some observations from an aboriginal perspective. He talks about dispossession and his mixed feelings about Australia Day. Who could possibly begrudge his that?

    He took offence when a young girl insulted him, she was probably parroting her parents. More good than harm in that action.

    Hawthorn is a privileged area and their supporters are mainly Liberal voting tossers and wannabes. It isn’t surprising that they’d target Goodes, he’s unlikely to aspire to be part of that crowd.

    Apparently Eddie McGuire has also blundered in. This is unsurprising – he has a Collingwood/Broadmeadows background so he’s particularly dull in intellect.

    I’m not a 100% fan of Goodes, but targeting him for special booing, and criticising him for doing something indigenous during the indigenous round is quite wrong.

  41. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 31, 2015 5:59 pm

    I don’t understand why anyone would call Goodes a wanker or boo him, or have a sense of ill will towards him.

  42. May 31, 2015 6:41 pm

    boo of melboure”””I don`t understand why anyone would call Goodes a wanker or boo him, or have a sense of ill will towards him””””’

    #2319 .. Goodes just joined an onion!

  43. May 31, 2015 6:42 pm

    “I don’t understand why anyone would call Goodes a wanker or boo him, or have a sense of ill will towards him.”

    A lot of people don’t like Goodes. Either those people have certain reasons for their feelings towards him, or they’re all racist.

    That seems to be the dichotomy we’re being offered.

  44. May 31, 2015 6:47 pm

    Last night, The crowd at Adelaide Oval were in raptures over Eddie Betts, Charlie Cameron and Cam Ellis-Yolmen. They booed Fremantle players with vigour.

    It had more to do with Team (tribal) pride than any sense of racism.

    Having said that, cunts like Bolt making hay out of Goodes’ (as he’s done ever since he came on Bolt’s odd radar when a ‘leftist’ PM made him Australian of the Year [shoulda been Prince Harry or some other hereditary conservative icon, perhaps]) every move is transparent, unconvincing and more than a little bit pathetic; unfortunately he presses the buttons which make his horde rankle.
    For fuck sake…a “wardance of hate”?!…give me a fucking break.

  45. May 31, 2015 6:49 pm

    BTW, I hate the Sydney Swans and, by extension, don’t like Goodes. Purely for football related reasons (fuck their ‘Sydney allowance!).

  46. May 31, 2015 6:51 pm

    Glad to see the Tiges down The Injectors last night!

    Fuck Hird, with a D-9

  47. May 31, 2015 6:52 pm

    “Glad to see the Tiges down The Injectors last night!”

    Not to mention the “power” last week. 😉

  48. May 31, 2015 6:55 pm

    How fucking GOOD was that!!!

    So much WIN!

  49. May 31, 2015 6:55 pm

    Former”””Weston-super-Mare vicar charged with sexual assault

    May 23, 2015

    A vicar who spent eight years working in Weston-super-Mare will appear in court charged with sexual assault.

    Married Reverend Andrew Chalkley, 50, had been suspended during police investigations.

    A spokesman for Avon and Somerset Police confirmed Mr Chalkley from Beckington had been charged with sexual assault in relation to an incident in Cheddar on April 17.

    The dad-of-one will appear at Taunton Dean Magistrates’ Court on June 19.

    A spokesman for the church confirmed he had been suspended while the allegations were investigated by police.

    She said: “The diocese is ensuring that services and ministry are covered by other clergy and lay ministers.”

    He became responsible for five churches in Somerset, including the parishes of Berkley, Lullington, Orchardleigh, Rodden and Beckington, after moving on from the seaside town.”””””

    http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Weston-super-Mare-vicar-charged-sexual-assault/story-26559246-detail/story.html

    #full.post #is this catlick too.?

  50. May 31, 2015 6:57 pm

    Anti-muslim protesters with Wehrmacht insignia tattooed on their neck. So credible. Not kneejerk xenophobes fearsquirtiing at all!

    *watch for Bolt’s column tomorrow condemning the ‘violent, extreme, leftist, anti-patriots’.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/police-on-alert-as-rival-protests-planned-in-richmond-and-cbd/story-e6frfkp9-1227376754708

  51. May 31, 2015 7:08 pm

    Now that l think about it, `Married.Reverend` is way too natural to be allowed for catlick vicars and reverends. Another dog-club must own this mutt.

  52. May 31, 2015 7:26 pm

    Illegal””’tobacco stashed behind fake CCTV camera

    17:00 Saturday 23 May 2015

    A shop director and the firm he worked for have been ordered to pay more than £4,000 in fines and costs after a crackdown on the sale of illicit tobacco in the New Hall Lane area of Preston.

    A stash of 416 illegal products were found in a secret hinged panel behind a fake CCTV camera in the Krakow store.

    Sabir Sadiq, 30, of Mercer Street, Preston, was the director of Wiejska Chata Ltd, which ran Krakow and Wiejska Chata at the time of some of the offences, and was found guilty of two counts of selling tobacco products without health warnings.

    He must pay a £165 fine, £20 surcharge and £598 costs while Preston Magistrates’ Court ordered the firm to pay a £1,200, £120 surcharge and £2,000 costs, after being convicted of four similar offences.

    The bench heard trading standards officers visited Krakow four times between May and October 2014.

    In the first, a Polish-speaking volunteer bought a packet which had been kept behind some vegetables on a shelf.”””””””””

    http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/illegal-tobacco-stashed-behind-fake-cctv-camera-1-7275954

    #full.post #team.nanny.roxon considering the amount of `policing` and associated jail/court costs, l wonder if the revenue raised is greater than the black market costs.

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2015 8:48 pm

    I’m not a 100% fan of Goodes, but targeting him for special booing, and criticising him for doing something indigenous during the indigenous round is quite wrong.

    My sentiments too, ToM …

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2015 9:00 pm

    #full.post #is this catlick too.?

    Father of one? Vicar? My guess, C of E … catliks don’t have kids (legally) and are referred to as priests …

  55. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2015 9:05 pm

    #full.post #team.nanny.roxon considering the amount of `policing` and associated jail/court costs, l wonder if the revenue raised is greater than the black market costs

    erm, that’s the UK … Roxon? Lalalala …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Watched most of Still Open All Hours a couple of nights ago … I wasn’t expecting much but pleasantly surprised at how good it is .. maintained the look, feel and humour that the original had … Ronnie Barker is still in it too …

  56. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 31, 2015 11:49 pm

    …I don’t understand why anyone would call Goodes a wanker or boo him, or have a sense of ill will towards him…

    Me neither tomM. I saw a great specimen of aboriginal male physicality, proudly displaying and declaring his culture while celebrating a goal. He looked fantastic and even better in slow motion!

    They should be thanking him for his contribution to the game over the years and his activism for his people. White australia just hates to be reminded of their whitewashing of black history, at any time, let alone little lone sporting events that they pay to attend and enjoy without getting any ‘black armband’ lip. Threatening? What tosh, it is just an excuse to have a go at someone they don’t like for daring to speak out. If he played footy quietly and brilliantly, they would love him, but to be in their faces and telling them what he thinks – the fkn hide of the man!

  57. May 31, 2015 11:49 pm

    yep, .co.uk is englandia .. better version .. #team.nanny.roxon .. #considering the amount of `policing` and associated jail/court/customs costs(in-teh-uk), l wonder if the revenue raised(in-teh-uk) is greater than the black market costs(in-teh-uk) .. #does `costs` exceed `revenue` considering anybody can drive thru the `tunnel` to france/ mainland europa.

    #it`s a bit tragic that young granville transformed into miserly old misery-guts teebz #still.open

  58. June 1, 2015 12:04 am

    ao”””sporting events .. any `black armband` lip”””

    #l quite enjoy the teabag-panic from these minor events, cathy freeman carrying the aboriginal tablecloth was quite good too:-)

    ao””’Threatening? What tosh”””

    #To blot-like fear-squirts, imaginary `throwing` of imaginary `spears` would be right up there with tewwawists and other imaginary `threats` like saddamz-wmdz. #Tinfoil`osy/Team Spiked Memo is buying it, of course!

  59. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 12:38 am

  60. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 12:53 am

  61. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 8:21 am

    People have an inherent sense of fairness, and they know what Goodes did to her wasn’t fair.

    Perhaps you need to re-educate yourself on the actual circumstance around that event tosy.

    For anyone who thinks the booing of Goodes is because of racism

    I agree with that, he got booed because he just kicked a goal against their team, and rubbed their noses in it. Expecting the opposition cheer squad to cheer for you in that situation is fucken ridiculous.

    WHY HAS HE NEVER BEEN CHARGED WITH GROOMING?

    Because even caps locks doesn’t lend any credence to that kangaroo dipshits blatherings?

    He took offence when a young girl insulted him, she was probably parroting her parents. More good than harm in that action.

    And a lot of good do come out of that. And, the way Goodes treated the girl in the aftermath shows that the understanding goes both ways. I recall him saying how hos heart sank when he realised who it was he had just pointed out, but it was done by then. And he supported her well imo after the fact.

    Apparently Eddie McGuire has also blundered in.

    He has no other way of entering anything does he, bar by blundering.

    They booed Fremantle players with vigour.

    But also cheered them, and Fyfe and Dangerfield’s epic match up. Supporters (most) recognose a good match up when they see it. And I haven’t seen something like that in a long time (Granted, I haven’t really watched footy for a while, because, to me, the games are so sterile)

    Glad to see the Tiges down The Injectors last night!

    Fuck Hird, with a D-9

    Just wanted to see it again. How any team can play this mob of fucken cheats without feeling sick is beyond me.

    l wonder if the revenue raised is greater than the black market costs.

    I wonder if this generation of children who won’t die due to tobacco will thank nanny’s or fucken idiots who can’t even count coloured cartons correctly? Regardless of the associated, unattributed “costs”

  62. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 8:48 am

    Nanny Roxon and #jeffwecan

    Amazing how many people want their nannies to do a Roxon isn’t it.

    When will we see the #colouredcartoncounters meme take off I wonder? Or just get on board the Jeff team noteam and think about saving lives instead of attacking a team just ……….. cos #team!

  63. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 8:59 am

    There’s an obvious question mark over this year’s budget that the media have yet to highlight: how could the Treasurer announce so many giveaways and backdowns but still claim that “our timetable back to a budget surplus is unchanged from last year”?

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/hockeys-return-to-surplus-not-credible-20150531-ghccty?skin=smart-phone

    It’s quite easy to explain Ross, And I would, but Andrew Elder does it so much better

    This was a significant moment in Australian political and journalistic history; Abbott should have been politically dead, but he is Prime Minister today because Peter Hartcher, those who report to him, and their counterparts in other organisations, went along with the idea that Abbott had to be taken at his word – whatever that word was.

    http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/that-hartcher-piece.html

    We see it daily, If a lib politician states something, it is simply repeated, with the assumption being that it is correct, no matter how often it proven not to be. yabot is simply the most visible example, but it goes for any lib pollie. And the opposite is the case for Labor, where every utterance is put through the doubt grinder, re-evaluated and had aspersions cast upon it, until everything they say is taken with a grain of salt. The outright bullshit pedalled in this budget and swallowed whole by the media is outstanding in it’s sweep, and, as time will show, is probably just as hurtful as last years budget, it is just sold (with the back bending support of the msm) far better.

    As things get bogged down again in Parliament, hopefully this will all become plain. Time will tell I guess.

  64. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 9:03 am

  65. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 9:29 am

  66. Walrus permalink
    June 1, 2015 9:34 am

    If you are going to be silly enough to equate Terrorism deaths to Domestic Violence you might as well equate it to Road Fatalities or Drug Deaths.

    It is possible to tackle more that one issue at a time you know.

  67. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 9:37 am

    It is possible to tackle more that one issue at a time you know.

    Not according to those opposed to marriage equality

  68. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 1, 2015 10:19 am

    I thought even you may have seen the obvious fallacies in poor old Bernard Keane’s argument, Tom R. This sad, really.

    Goodes is a moralising cunt. He should stick to what he does best – raining hell down on 13 year old girls. Apparently it is the job of the Australian of the year to promote division.

  69. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 10:37 am

    GO BRONCOS!

    One of the best NRL tries you’ll see … no aerial ping pong here (there is a well placed kick tho’) …

  70. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 10:41 am

    And Wayne Bennet’s smile?

    A fan said they’d watched his movie the other night and said, “Well done, Clint! Great job in Gran Torino too!”

  71. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 10:48 am

    I thought even you may have seen the obvious fallacies in poor old Bernard Keane’s argument

    If it’s so obvious, state it. See what it looks like written down 😉

  72. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 1, 2015 10:50 am

    Yeah!

    Bolt objects to Adam Goodes performing an impromptu example of indigenous culture during the AFL round that celebrates indigenous culture!!

    How totally surprising!!

    Next time we have the French National Anthem played he ought to riot!! La Marseillaise includes –

    Grab your weapons, citizens!
    Form your batallions!
    Let us march! Let us march!
    May impure blood
    Water our fields!

    It’s an outrage that La Marseillaise is ever sung here!!

  73. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:08 am

    You may have had a point yomm if only you’d used caps lock and bold, but, as it stands, I’m not convinced.

  74. June 1, 2015 11:11 am

    A colleague just called me “Un Australian.”

    I’m not quite sure how I feel about that.

  75. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:14 am

    I’m not quite sure how I feel about that.

    Un Australian?

  76. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:21 am

    Tom R, as Walrus said: it is not a binary choice.

    Also, stats are irrelevant unless you believe that the future will be the same as the past. There were no Cambodian killing fields until Pol Pot took power.

  77. June 1, 2015 11:22 am

    Well I’m not an Australian citizen (yet), so I guess that’s kind of the default position anyway.

    But to be called Un Australian. That’s taking things to the next level.

    And over a fairly minor thing too.

  78. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:24 am

    I’m not quite sure how I feel about that.

    A wee Scottish, git, Jimmy? 🙂

    BTW … why were you called un-Australian (does anybody really know what that means?)

    ___________________________________

    BAN THE HAKA!

  79. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:24 am

    “A colleague just called me “Un Australian.””

    Were you being a dickhead at the time? Anyway, I thought you were a Kiwi or Scot or something? Also, Queenslanders are by definition un-Australian.

  80. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:25 am

    Well I’m not an Australian citizen (yet), so I guess that’s kind of the default position anyway.

    So you can go and fight with IS and not lose your Australian Citizenship … there’s always a positive!

  81. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:27 am

    Also, Queenslanders are by definition un-Australian.

    AH! Says a Mexican!

    I thought you were a Kiwi … or something … LOL! I can hear the skirling o’ the pipes and see the swing o’ the skirts!

  82. June 1, 2015 11:32 am

    “”Were you being a dickhead at the time?””

    Not really. We were in the kitchen trying that new Cadbury Vegemite chocolate.

    Cadbury chocolate is crap at the best of times, but this vegemite version takes it to a whole new level of fkn disgusting.

  83. June 1, 2015 11:33 am

    “”I can hear the skirling o’ the pipes and see the swing o’ the skirts!””

    Aye!

    Speaking of which, we’re off to see the Edinburgh Military Tattoo next year (in Melbourne)..

  84. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:36 am

    Oh, I see now.

    I sympathise with you. Clearly the slur was unwarranted. But if it was plain ordinary Vegemite on toast or a sandwich your colleague may have had a point.

  85. June 1, 2015 11:39 am

    I think that’s a fair assessment SB.

  86. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:39 am

    Tom R, as Walrus said: it is not a binary choice.

    That’s the point really isn’t it.

    But this grubmint can only play the tewwa card, and have completely abdicated the field on domestic violence. Actually, no, they have gone further than that. They have actively tried to defund agencies that are set up to support victims of domestic violence.

    So saying “it’s not binary” just highlights the fact that this grbmint are playing a single issue, and ignoring the fuck out of the other.

    This grubmint should NOT be binary. Walk and chew gum people, it’s possible.

    Obviously, this lot are too busy to care about anything but their own internal agendas.

    Five Coalition MPs were in the chamber for Shorten’s speech. Bob Baldwin at the table, Russell Broadbent, Darren Chester, Mal Brough and Andrew Broad.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2015/jun/01/bill-shorten-introduces-same-sex-marriage-bill-politics-live?CMP=share_btn_tw#block-556bb3a5e4b0c7acb49605d5

  87. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:40 am

  88. June 1, 2015 11:42 am
  89. June 1, 2015 11:43 am

    Oh me and Tom just posted the same thing… 🙂

  90. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:45 am

    Speaking of which, we’re off to see the Edinburgh Military Tattoo next year (in Melbourne)..

    Mmmm … we’re big fans here.

    All I can say about Vegelemyte is its a waste product from making some of the worst beer in the world! The one big advantage immigrants have is that they are not weaned on the shitty stuff as babies. Thankfully I was protected from Marmite too …

  91. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:45 am

    “ToM and me … ” 🙄

  92. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:47 am

    Those photos will damage this government badly! And deservedly so … who wants a government that still resides in the 1950’s!

  93. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 11:49 am

    Oh me and Tom just posted the same thing…

    Oh, the ignominy 😦

    “ToM and me … ”

    I reckons he were just tryin’ ta make hisself feel oztrayun again TB 😉

    BUT …….“ToM and I … ”

    #justsayin’

  94. June 1, 2015 11:54 am

    “”Mmmm … we’re big fans here.””

    Why don’t you come down to civilisation to see it?

    My mum and dad are coming over from NZ to see it.

    It’d be nice for them to have someone their own age to talk to…. 😉

  95. June 1, 2015 12:00 pm

    No sign of Talcum in those pics… Not there to show his support for equality or his electorate?

  96. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 12:03 pm

    …….“ToM and I … ”

    LOL! Indeed … too quick to criticise … LOL!

    It’d be nice for them to have someone their own age to talk to….

    Arsehole … I don’t speak Gaelic … 😉

  97. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 12:05 pm

    No sign of Talcum in those pics…

    Entsch didn’t appear to be there either. So, just WHO is playing politics?

    I don’t speak Gaelic

    Gaelic weddings? 🙂

  98. June 1, 2015 12:07 pm

    Excuse me, but sometimes it’s ok to say “”me and Tom””

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/i-or-me

    #JUSTFKNSAYIN!

  99. June 1, 2015 12:07 pm

    “”Gaelic weddings?””

    chuckle.

  100. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 12:14 pm

    Excuse me, but sometimes it’s ok to say “”me and Tom””

    BULLSHIT

    And I reckon me and Tom agree on that!

  101. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 12:14 pm

    Peak racist?

  102. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 12:21 pm

    …Goodes is a moralising cunt. He should stick to what he does best – raining hell down on 13 year old girls. Apparently it is the job of the Australian of the year to promote division…

    Division is in the eye of the beholder, bigots and racists who can’t accept an aboriginal man standing up proudly and defiantly for aboriginal people. Perhaps it’s the fans who are the problem. If they can’t come to the indigenous round without showing some respect for an indigenous player, his heritage and his way of celebrating a terrific goal, they shouldn’t be there at all. Perhaps they are motivated to come just so they can racially vilify and abuse under cover of team barracking?

    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/adam-goodes-war-cry-wasnt-an-outrage-it-was-a-heartfelt-show-of-his-proud-heritage-20150531-ghdcfz.html

    …I loved the dance. I love that Adam Goodes expressed himself in that way and that we got to see a bit of culture at the football. I can’t believe anyone would take offence at that. Interesting that people who are constantly vilified are expected to be polite about it. Players (and fans) defy rules and laws every round and the commentators say it’s all part of the game. The double standards are breathtaking. Everyone, including fans need to take some responsibility for their behaviour and the impact it has on others. I have stopped going to the football because I can’t stand the behaviour of fans.
    linthecity Location Melbourne Date and time May 31, 2015, 2:43PM

    What the blazes was the objection to Goodes’ dance? A display of aggression? Did he hit someone? Did he directly threaten to do so? Did he even denigrate anyone?
    In a sporting culture which condones viciously nasty sledging in cricket, as well as bowling ‘bouncers’ capable of inflicting serious injury – even death, tolerates ‘spear tackles’ in the NRL, as well as illegal ‘biffo’, plays against NZ teams for whom the Haka is an opening to every game, one bloke does a traditional ‘war dance’ and we have minor meltdown. He just happens to be an outspoken defender of Aboriginal rights, as well as a very fine player and a former Australian of the Year. Not a racist attack – not much!
    Commenter bratman Location mount druitt Date and time May 31, 2015, 12:20PM

    Gosh gotta love all the nice things being said about Goodes how great, there he is on the ground playing your version of Footy,but by Christ I wonder what you would be saying if an Aboriginal family moved into your St,Way, Circle or where you upper middle class lot live.
    I bet you wont be so keen on it then,unless Australians have changed a lot which I don’t believe they have changed at all, the Indigenous are wonderful AFL players so long as you don’t have to live near or next to them,lets see what happens when he drops out of the spotlight I have seen it more than once where I live,you lot want to get real.
    Commenter normalozperson Location Perth Date and time May 31, 2015, 1:31PM

  103. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 12:43 pm

    Perhaps tony abbott should prove his commitment and loyalty to australia before a foreign country, all he needs to do is show when he renounced his british citizenship [if he has not done so, he is disqualified from entering our parliament, rules is rules aren’t they?]

  104. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 1, 2015 12:56 pm

    Goodes may have a range of opinions I don’t agree with, but I’m really not bothered by “moralising c**ts” – if I was, I’d have to find another blog.

  105. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 1, 2015 1:16 pm

    Division is in the eye of the beholder. Not even! Goodes is just a pathetic coward. Why is a 13 year old girl (and not Eddie Maguire) damned as the “face of racism in Australia”? He has chosen the path of division and he well knows it.

    And just because the crowd boos an opposition player doesn’t mean they are racist except in the minds of deluded leftists who want nothing more than to create everlasting racial division in the country.

  106. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 1:19 pm

    Fck! Why doesn’t he think of that when it comes to the funding of private schools, hospitals and organised religion by taxpayers? To politicians advancing religion in our political debates and laws?
    Jaw dropping hypocrisy!

  107. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 1:30 pm

    Why is a 13 year old girl (and not Eddie Maguire) damned as the “face of racism in Australia”?

    Why do you misrepresent that all the time?

    “I just hope that people give the 13 year old girl the same sort of support because she needs it, her family needs it, and the people around them need it.

    “It’s not a witch-hunt, I don’t want people to go after this young girl.

    “We’ve just got to help educate society better so it doesn’t happen again.”

    Goodes said that Victoria Police asked if he would like to press charges but he declined, reiterating that the girl needs to learn why her abuse was hurtful.

    “It’s not her fault, she’s 13, she’s still so innocent, I don’t put any blame on her,” he said

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-25/goodes-gutted-but-places-no-blame/4712772

    So don’t continually try to paint it as something it obviously isn’t

  108. June 1, 2015 1:39 pm

    “So don’t continually try to paint it as something it obviously isn’t”

    What Goodes said after the event, and what he actually did on the spur of the moment, are two different things. For Goodes to say he didn’t realise who he was calling out is complete crap, and easily disproven by the video. He clearly knew who’d called him an “ape”, and walked right up to her and pointed her out to a security guard squatting by the boundary line. No amount of covering up after the event will change the facts of the matter.

  109. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 1:42 pm

    Has anyone else noticed that whenever the coalition wants to strip us of any rights or stop any kind of societal progress, they get a far right extremist like cory bernardi to mouth off with something insane?
    It was recently done again with the proposal to strip people of their citizenship, all of a sudden there is a letter circulated from back benchers saying that the legislation doesn’t go far enough and they want more done.

    This is done deliberately to make their own fascist intent look reasonable, it’s the political bait & switch in action.

    When is labor going to stop marching in goose step with the libs on ‘national security’ fear mongering and start protecting australian citizens?

  110. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 1:42 pm

    He clearly knew who’d called him an “ape”

    Yes, but he didn’t realise she was that young until moments later, at which time he knew it was already too late. I also don’t think that would or should have changed his mind

  111. June 1, 2015 1:48 pm

    By the way, from a purely aesthetic point of view, Goodes does have a prominent forehead/eyebrow line, and a hairy face.

  112. June 1, 2015 1:50 pm

    “Yes, but he didn’t realise she was that young until moments later, at which time he knew it was already too late.”

    Thus sayeth Tom R, the mindreader.

  113. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 1:51 pm

    What Goodes said after the event, and what he actually did on the spur of the moment, are two different things.

    No, they are consistent. And, what he said after the event, where he calls on people NOT to go after the girl totally disputes the claim that she was made the “face of racism in Australia”?

  114. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 1:58 pm

    …He has chosen the path of division and he well knows it…

    Rubbish, he heard the slur and called it immediately, at the time he didn’t even know it was a young girl. He handled it very sensitively when he did know though.

    Good on him, I agree with his actions, racism needs to be called out each and every time, no exceptions or the ‘fans’ will have their kids shouting out racist slurs just to get around the rules.

    Why do you expect racial abuse and racist attitudes to be tolerated and accepted by those who are at the receiving end of it? Is that the only way our society is not divided, aborigines must quietly suck it up with a smile?

  115. Walrus permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:02 pm

    “This grubmint should NOT be binary. Walk and chew gum people, it’s possible.”

    Hang on a minute. It was the ALP that started taling up Gay Marriage all last week because of the Irish vote and your National Conference problem with it in July.

    I suppose Bill had to break glass in case of emergency because of his pathetic response to the Budget which was truly appalling and delivered in his usual monotonal voice.

  116. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:03 pm

    …By the way, from a purely aesthetic point of view, Goodes does have a prominent forehead/eyebrow line, and a hairy face…

    aesthetic my arse 🙄

    Put that up in an aboriginal community, I dare you.

    That’s a first for GT, racism!

  117. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:04 pm

    Put that up in an aboriginal community, I dare you.

    And put your name to it too.

  118. June 1, 2015 2:07 pm

    “That’s a first for GT, racism!”

    I expected nothing less. It’s the default position for the pro-Goodesians.

  119. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:12 pm

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-25/goodes-gutted-but-places-no-blame/4712772

    …But Goodes said he is not blaming the girl, saying she deserved to be supported and educated about why the racist comment was unacceptable.

    “I’m pretty gutted to be honest,” he told reporters in Melbourne on Saturday morning.

    “The win, the first in 13 years, to be up 47 points against Collingwood, to play such a pivotal role just sort of means nothing.

    “To come to the boundary line and hear a 13-year-old girl call me an ‘ape’, and it’s not the first time on a footy field that I’ve been referred to as a ‘monkey’ or an ‘ape’, it was shattering.”

    Goodes announced on Twitter about an hour and a half later that the girl had been in touch.

    “Just received a phone call from a young girl apologizing for her actions. Lets support her please#racismitstopswithme #IndigenousRound
    — Adam Goodes (@adamroy37) May 25, 2013”

    Yeah, it was all his fault, damn his black skin and damn him for responding to a racial slur, it just divides the community 🙄

  120. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:15 pm

    I expected nothing less…

    I expected more…of you.

  121. June 1, 2015 2:15 pm

    Whether he meant to or not, Goodes has succeeded in dividing the community(‘s opinion). Comments everywhere fall into either the pro- or anti-Goodes camps, and not much in between.

  122. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:19 pm

    I’m not pro goodes, I’m anti racism.

  123. June 1, 2015 2:21 pm

    Anti-racism does not mean someone is immune from criticism because of their race.

    Or maybe that’s the point. Shut up! Or you’ll be called racist.

  124. June 1, 2015 2:23 pm

    “That’s a first for ToSY GT, racism!”

  125. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:27 pm

    Jaw dropping hypocrisy!

    Especially all those subsidised CHAPLAINS in STATE schools !!!

    Infkncredible!

    When is the next election?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So don’t continually try to paint it as something it obviously isn’t

    The driver said … I didn’t see her … I didn’t mean to run over the little girl who will now be marked all her life … so its OK, isn’t it. The deed was done … two wrongs do not make a right …

    … where he calls on people NOT to go after the girl Oh so they will just ignore the incident then … like we all are?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

  126. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:27 pm

    Anti-racism does not mean someone is immune from criticism because of their race.

    🙄

    It does if the criticism is based on the colour of their skin. If their own behaviour is criticised for refusing to tolerate racial slurs against themselves!

  127. June 1, 2015 2:28 pm

    That’s the thing about racism and political correctness in general: it’s impossible to know where the boundaries are, because they’re arbitrary, and set by thought police as they see fit.

    Racism was once “racial discrimination”. That doesn’t mean so much in these days of equal opportunity and quotas, so it’s mostly about words.

  128. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:29 pm

    “That’s a first for ToSY, racism!”

    yes, sorry reb, my genuine apology for the slur upon your character.

  129. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:33 pm

    “I’m anti racism”

    Anti-racist groups are sickening fascists trying to promote their own radical leftist agenda. Generally they only come out to shut other people up and deny them their right to free speech.

    Anti-racism means not having different rules and laws for different races.

    I doubt what the 13 year old girl said was intended to be racist. Yet Goodes, the millionaire celebrity sports star, caused her to be detained and questioned by cops for 2 hours without her parents present. He truly is an odious fuckwit. He should have apologised to her instead of calling her ‘the face of racism in Australia’. He needs a good kick up the arse.

  130. June 1, 2015 2:33 pm

    “yes, sorry reb, my genuine apology for the slur upon your character.”

    I’ll just accept the slur on my character, though, because you’re on the left right politically-correct side of the argument. 🙂

  131. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:34 pm

    Racism was once “racial discrimination”. That doesn’t mean so much in these days of equal opportunity and quotas, so it’s mostly about words…

    FMD, you’ve got a really long way to go if you even think there is equal opportunity in these or any days.
    Quotas? where are they in practice and are they about true equality or are they aimed at “a bit more towards equal than nothing at all’?

  132. June 1, 2015 2:36 pm

    “”I’ll just accept the slur on my character””

    Well, you did post it.

  133. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:43 pm

    I doubt what the 13 year old girl said was intended to be racist. Yet Goodes, the millionaire celebrity sports star, caused her to be detained and questioned by cops for 2 hours without her parents present…

    You would have no idea what the girl intended, but what came out of her was racist.

    I taught my kids about racism and skin colour from toddlers, it is something you do if you care about others as people. She was old enough to know better IMO, let alone scream it out to a player right in front of her as an insult because she was angry her team was being beaten.

    Racism has nothing to do with wealth or celebrity, it is the colour of the skin [again, for those who can’t ‘geddit’] You can have all the money in the world and just one insult for something you have absolutely no control over, the colour of your skin and you are instantly demeaned and degraded to your core.

  134. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:44 pm

    The driver said … I didn’t see her …

    Too much League TB, not enough AFL

    Really, Goodes wasn’t driving a bloody car, he was playing footy. His attention is on the game, not people in the crowd, until they made themselves unable to be ignored. It’s not hard to understand that when you are focused on something, and hear something else out of what you are focused on, you will not immediately get a complete picture of that other event.

    He heard abuse, he called it, and then realised her age. Not that it matters, he should call it regardless. His actions in the aftermath however show his real metal.

    The comments of some here today reveal something altogether different

    it’s impossible to know where the boundaries are

    Only if you want to remain a fucken ignorant Neanderthal

  135. June 1, 2015 2:44 pm

    “Well, you did post it.”

    Yes I did, in an obviously futile attempt to point out why a 13 year old girl might have called Goodes an ape, other than her being a racist.

    It does show how freely charges of racism are bandied about, though.

  136. June 1, 2015 2:47 pm

    “Only if you want to remain a fucken ignorant Neanderthal”

    Now you want to jump on the name calling bandwagon? Go right ahead.

    The names don’t bother me because I know there’s no substance to them.

  137. June 1, 2015 2:53 pm

    “”The names don’t bother me because I know there’s no substance to them.””

    Good for you Tony, good for you.

  138. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:58 pm

    …The driver said … I didn’t see her … I didn’t mean to run over the little girl who will now be marked all her life … so its OK, isn’t it. The deed was done … two wrongs do not make a right …

    There was only one wrong as far as I can see and it’s not on the part of the victim, you know, the person who was racially abused while playing sport.

    Poor little white girl with very bad manners has become the cause celebre for white superiority, for those who think aboriginal australians should just shut up, do nothing and tolerate open racial vilification, lest they ‘divide’ the community.
    Her feelings are paramount here as he has money and celebrity status 🙄 Cold comfort I think.
    But he is black, so in some people’s eyes that will mean he can never be equal to a white person.

  139. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:59 pm

    Goodes would have been insulted in the most vile terms for his whole life, he’s decided he’s not putting up with it in any circumstances. Good for him.

    I wasn’t that keen on him pointing to the girl, but I can understand why he would do that.

    …and don’t blame Goodes for the police detailing her.
    ————
    Apologists say Goodes is a great footballer, who stages for frees – that’s why he gets booed. Matthew Lloyd was world class at that, but I don’t recall him getting the same level of opprobrium.

    There’s a racist element to the Goodes criticism, but not all the critics are racists, however their rational, football informed arguments are latched on to by the racists.

  140. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 1, 2015 2:59 pm

    “You would have no idea what the girl intended, but what came out of her was racist. “

    She said at the time that she hadn’t intended to be racist.

    “Racism has nothing to do with wealth or celebrity, it is the colour of the skin”

    You might find that race is a whole lot more than skin colour. Didn’t Bolt get sued for that assumption?

    ” you are instantly demeaned and degraded to your core.”

    How you choose to take it is up to you!

    “His actions in the aftermath however show his real mettle.”

    Yes. 24 hours later she was still the face of racism in Australia and Eddie Maguire was… not detained by the cops and not the face of racism in Australia.

    Goodes can carry on like a posturing fool if he likes, but my sympathy is with the girl. The reaction and the consequences for her were out of all proportion.

  141. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 1, 2015 3:00 pm

    “detaining her”

  142. June 1, 2015 3:04 pm

    I don’t have an opinion on this particular issue.

  143. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 3:06 pm

    Now you want to jump on the name calling bandwagon?

    It was more a descriptive terminology applied to your behaviour. Not a name-calling incident 😉

    She said at the time that she hadn’t intended to be racist.

    tosy may not have intended to be an ignorant Neanderthal. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t

    The reaction and the consequences for her were out of all proportion.

    But not Goodes reaction, you forgot to mention. The actions of the police and media, Goodes cannot control

  144. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 1, 2015 3:08 pm

    “I don’t have an opinion on this particular issue.”

    THEN YOU’RE RELLY NOT DOING YOUR JOB!

    ”TURNING YOUR DAILY NEWS INTO A SNARKY RANT”

  145. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 3:08 pm

    …Yes I did, in an obviously futile attempt to point out why a 13 year old girl might have called Goodes an ape, other than her being a racist…

    Fuck, you just keep digging yourself deeper.

    Aborigines look just like apes!

    The only way that historic racial slur is used is in racial vilification, there is no other reason possible. He is obviously not an ape, nor does he look anything like one, he looks like a man who happens to have black skin, even a young girl can see that.

  146. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 3:09 pm

    I don’t have an opinion on this particular issue.

    That’s almost un Australian reb 😉

  147. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 1, 2015 3:11 pm

    Footballers look just like apes!

  148. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 3:36 pm

    …You might find that race is a whole lot more than skin colour. Didn’t Bolt get sued for that assumption?…

    No, he got sued for vilifying people for their racial identification, he says they must be obviously black to identify as an aboriginal.

    How you choose to take it is up to you!

    Always said by a white person who belongs to the white majority, comfortably privileged by his ‘whiteness’ and whose forebears have historically oppressed all people of colour.

    From 8:30 in – lenny bruce and brian schmidt talk about how behind we are in race relations.

  149. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 3:54 pm

  150. Walrus permalink
    June 1, 2015 4:04 pm

    “The minute an Indigenous man is something other than compliant, the backlash is huge…:”

    I’ve never heard of such generalised crap in my life. Rugby League has plenty of examples of aborigines taunting opposition crowds without any hint of rascism attached to it. If their is a backlash then it seems more AFL related.

    But with dickheads like Eddie (King Kong) about who is surprised. I think Eddie just has it in for Goodes following his King Kong thingo. Plus he obviously hates the Swans and I know almost everyone at Channel 9 Sydney was glad to see the back of him when he got shafted as CEO or whatever he was.

    I do wish someone would finally “bone” him.

  151. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 1, 2015 4:13 pm

    “comfortably privileged by his ‘whiteness’ “

    FUCK OFF.

    “whose forebears have historically oppressed all people of colour.”

    FUCK RIGHT OFF, YOU IGNORANT MORON. You don’t have a clue about my “forebears”.

  152. June 1, 2015 4:18 pm

    LABOR has launched an extraordinary attack on speaker Bronwyn Bishop over her attempts to shut down a question in parliament today…

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/labor-launches-attack-on-bronwyn-bishop-over-question-time-ruling/story-fni0xqrb-1227378184862

  153. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 4:23 pm

    The Not-So-Level Playing Field: Why We Love Cathy Freeman And Hate Adam Goodes:
    https://newmatilda.com/2015/06/01/not-so-level-playing-field-why-we-love-cathy-freeman-and-hate-adam-goodes#sthash.cvanqyUt.dpuf

    …Freeman has been rewarded for her generosity of spirit many times over (her athleticism and humility, admittedly, helped). She is today, literally, a National Living Treasure.

    Adam Goodes, by contrast, takes a very different approach, and gets a very different response.

    Goodes directly challenges the Australian story. He confronts us about our racism, and about our past. He reminds us that we took the children away, that we engineered dire poverty which endures today, that we stole Aboriginal land and Aboriginal wages, and that we continue to discriminate against the First Peoples of this land…

    …Goodes’ occasional challenges to racism grind and burn at mainstream Australia. But Freeman’s act complimented our national story. It was an act of reconciliation – ‘I love both flags, I love both people’ – and allowed us to feel precisely the way we collectively like to see ourselves: as a tolerant and inclusive nation, where everyone is equal, regardless of their race, religion or sex.

    The fact is, we can’t just pick and choose the parts of our national story that we suit. You can’t have reconciliation without truth. And it’s those truths, and Goodes’ role in speaking them, that brings into sharp focus the importance of his approach…

  154. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 4:47 pm

    Really, Goodes wasn’t driving a bloody car, he was playing footy.

    Yer having a lend aren’t ya? Or deliberately ignoring the analogy … try the word “stigma” …

    … I’ve heard football fans all over the world call out names, not necessarily intended as racist … but could be loosely called that sometimes – IT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY … and “ha, ya big ape” is not a new catch cry … she didn’t exactly say … “ya fkin stupid abo” … “rock ape” refers to any dopey bastard in my experience (limited tho’ it is) …

    Let me explain my position … the girl made a childish mistake and said a word … Goodes took offence and made a childish mistake and marked the child for life … Goodes did what many footballers do – a danced after the “win” … he was booed – I’ve seen footballers all over the world booed, its not racism … was it racist or just the game … we’ll never know … but I believe he had every right to dance – just like EVERY OTHER FOOTBALLER does … bunch of ponces …

    Its in the mind of the receiver … if I’d taken offence every time I was called a Pommie bastard or whinging Pom … I would go nuts … I call my mate a Nazi … my best man, was a wog … its the person … not the race …

    My Bosnian neighbour pissed himself laughing when I asked if he had a bomb under the blanket on his chest – it was his new baby … he’s a muslim …

    Precious is as precious does …

    FIN for me …

  155. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 4:54 pm

    Goodes directly challenges the Australian story. He confronts us about our racism, and about our past. He reminds us that we took the children away, that we engineered dire poverty which endures today, that we stole Aboriginal land and Aboriginal wages, and that we continue to discriminate against the First Peoples of this land…

    NO, WE didn’t … I for one wasn’t there … but I’m sick of being fkn blamed …

    The fact is, we can’t just pick and choose the parts of our national story that we suit.

    So this is a bad thing?

    But Freeman’s act complimented our national story. It was an act of reconciliation – ‘I love both flags, I love both people’ – and allowed us to feel precisely the way we collectively like to see ourselves

    It’s certainly not divisive … Goodes’ approach is … obviously was … I don’t think the “dance” should rate a mention … what’s racist about that anyway …

    None of us are perfect we need to find a way forward – we cannot go back to the future …

    Can anyone tell me what Goodes’ agenda actually is?

  156. June 1, 2015 5:12 pm

    Time for an interval.

    Anders Zorn, Omnibus, 1892

  157. Walrus permalink
    June 1, 2015 5:16 pm

    “It’s certainly not divisive … Goodes’ approach is … obviously was … I don’t think the “dance” should rate a mention … what’s racist about that anyway ”

    Nothing !

    Its about as rascist as Greg Inglis’ “Goanna”. And all NRL fans enjoyed Gordon Tallis getting “rough” with Blues supporters.

    Plenty of games have a “bit of mongrel” in them.

    Those Southerners dont get out much. I’d actually like to see Aussie teams use that War Dance when we play the Kiwis after their Haka.

  158. Walrus permalink
    June 1, 2015 5:17 pm

    “Omnibus, 1892”

    You mean Omnibus stuck on Parramatta Road since 1892.

  159. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 1, 2015 5:19 pm

    Can anyone tell me what Goodes’ agenda actually is?

    I think it’s that he doesn’t like being called an ape, he doesn’t go for getting booed and he’s not embarrassed about his heritage.

    That’s probably why he’s clearly such a c**t

  160. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 5:44 pm

    I just figured out something … I’ve known/know people from many backgrounds, race, colour, creed, gender, age …

    But when it comes down to it … its the person I like, or dislike …

    And all of my comments actually relate to one thing … I don’t like Goodes … in fact I’m not keen on Freeman … as people … NOT because they are First People …

  161. Walrus permalink
    June 1, 2015 5:45 pm

    I think its just that Melbourne people dont like us generous of heart, sweet, sensitive and shy Sydney people

    Yup…………….that’s it

  162. June 1, 2015 5:49 pm

    reb”””A colleague just called me `Un Australian.`

    I`m not quite sure how I feel about that.””””

    #l always take it as a compliment. l know straight away the imbecile using the phrase is tea-guzzling, tablecloth-wrapped, oi-oi-oi, that easily subscribes to the shallow slogans peddled by teabag-media. Hello Tinfoil`osy:-)

  163. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 5:54 pm

    “rock ape” refers to any dopey bastard in my experience (limited tho’ it is) …

    It’s a particularly nasty term of racial abuse against aborigines, especially in the NT. I heard it all the time in the years that I was there, it is deliberately disparaging and why tony’s aesthetic pictures are seen as very racist .

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rock+ape

  164. June 1, 2015 5:56 pm

    “”straight away the imbecile using the phrase is tea-guzzling, tablecloth-wrapped, oi-oi-oi, that easily subscribes to the shallow slogans peddled by teabag-media.””

    To be fair, it was only because I didn’t think much of Cadbury’s Vegemite chocolate…

  165. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 6:00 pm

    Those Southerners dont get out much. I’d actually like to see Aussie teams use that War Dance when we play the Kiwis after their Haka.

    me too walrus, I think they should do the war dance for every aussie representation.

  166. June 1, 2015 6:02 pm

    ao”””””When is labor going to stop marching in goose step with the libs on `national security` fear mongering and start protecting australian citizens?””””””’#exactly #ditto for citizens jobs, health, welfare, education, instead of foreign corporate profits. #teabag-lite

  167. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 6:10 pm

    It’s a particularly nasty term of racial abuse against aborigines, especially in the NT.

    KL, it was used in many situations that weren’t aboriginal … admittedly male dominated – like football – for decades (you might want to scroll down your link for a few others) … not so much these days, altho’ I may now move in more genteel circles … 🙂

    Rock apes was a term of endearment for crunchies or grunts … infantry … to civilians …

    Bit loik calling birds or chicks, shielas, hey? 😉

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    To be fair, it was only because I didn’t think much of Cadbury’s Vegemite chocolate…

    Nor would I … yuk … didn’t you get in the shite for your assessment of restaurant food a while ago?

    By christ you live dangerously!

  168. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 6:13 pm

    … me too walrus, I think they should do the war dance for every aussie representation.

    Have we just “discovered” it?

    I notice that the First People have now suddenly been here an additional 20 million years … swift jump from 40 million to 60! I mean I was already impressed with 40 million … 60 doesn’t make much difference really …

  169. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 6:13 pm

    …NO, WE didn’t … I for one wasn’t there … but I’m sick of being fkn blamed …

    Well, aborigines are sick of it being denied, the past needs to be acknowledged and while some aussies continue to deny everything that happened [think andrew bolt and john howard and their trying to re-write history by using denier historians] we will never come to reconciliation.

    Even abbott keeps up the fiction of aboriginal denial continuing to say that australia was uninhabited or nothing before white man came along. There’s also a lot of influential people who refuse to allow aboriginal history to flourish, think of the farmers [and miners] who have stolen their lands and continue to deny aboriginal heritage.

    No-one has to feel personally guilty, but don’t deny what has happened to aborigines from the time of white invasion.

  170. June 1, 2015 6:15 pm

    Tinfoil`osy””””””’Goodes has succeeded in dividing the community(`s opinion).#WRONG

    #it`s the racist`s dressed-up as fear-squirters, teabags and blot-herd dividing(trying) the `community`.

    +

    Tinfoil`osy””””Comments everywhere fall into either the pro- or anti-Goodes camps”””’#WRONG

    #the `2-camps` are desperately trying to be created by the blot-herd fear-squirts for their own imagined benefit of `superiority` or some such nonsense.

    #The `war-dance` is totally unimportant. So is the 13-yo`s eviction. #teabags

  171. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 6:20 pm

    …KL, it was used in many situations that weren’t aboriginal ..

    Was it used to insult, vilify, demean and dehumanise?

    Rock Ape
    Very Derogratory term for an aboriginal.
    The Fucking Coons in Aurukun are Deadset Fucking Rock Apes man.
    by Boong Basher2 September 15, 2010

    Because that is exactly how it is used against aboriginals.

  172. June 1, 2015 6:34 pm

    teebz”””’First People have now suddenly been here an additional 20 million years .. swift jump from 40 million to 60! I mean I was already impressed”””””

    #60,000 years #730reportland.fact.check

  173. June 1, 2015 6:35 pm

    “Yes I did, in an obviously futile attempt to point out why a 13 year old girl might have called Goodes an ape, other than her being a racist.

    It does show how freely charges of racism are bandied about, though.”

    Firstly, I don’t think for a second that ToSY is racist. He’s never made any inference previously that he was; being found to be on the ‘wrong’ side of political debates, and his positions often carry missed nuance, doesn’t qualify, imo.

    Secondly, I don’t agree with his interpretation of why the youngster called Goodes an ape. I’d say that was ‘learned’ behaviour & loutish barracking.

    Thirdly, I fucking hate the idea of a world whereby the word/thought/intention police hold sway. Why?…well, because I say the words in my head, and type them, and this often leads to confusion, misunderstanding & misinterpretation in the minds of my beholders. I am no racist, I just have strongly held, florid, ‘individually articulated’ opinions…I should never be mistaken for one of those fuckheads, claiming to be ‘patriots’ wearing a Wehrmacht tshirt and, indeed, I believe most here who are familiar with mt output would never mistake me as such…primarily because they can recognise the difference; maybe because I agree with them more often than I disagree?

    Peace

  174. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 6:48 pm

    Look at the hysteria over a bloody dance and pointing an imaginary spear!

    “every time an aboriginal speaks up to remind of our black history, we have a national melt down”

    That is so true, we just can’t handle the truth, too immature and too in denial.

    One day australia will grow up and we’ll move forward, but it won’t be under any of these current politicians, too fearful of the racist backlash, it will take another whitlam type I think. Someone who can show humanity as strength. I don’t consider a coalition politician, they spend their whole time drumming up racism and vilifying aborigines themselves, they do everything in their power to defund and dispossess aboriginals and their culture.

    It does show how freely charges of racism are bandied about, though.”

    If I see anyone putting up a picture of an aboriginal and saying how much they look like an ape I will assume that they are deliberately using that to race bait. Why else would they do it?

    Do you honestly think that if that appeared in letterboxes or on posters in redfern or on adam goodes fence, it wouldn’t be considered a race based insult?

  175. June 1, 2015 6:57 pm

    dunny”””racist. He`s never made any inference previously”””

    #there is strong indication above that a couple of `our` viewers are running around in their tinfoil bed-sheets

    #l agree, blot probably helped dress them

  176. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 7:13 pm

    No-one has to feel personally guilty, but don’t deny what has happened to aborigines from the time of white invasion.

    No denial here … but I will not accept personal responsibility for something that happened two centuries ago … or even a century ago … I had as much control over that as Goodes did over aboriginals murdering white men, women and children … Humpty Dumpty Syndrome … should I go back where I came from?

    That is so true, we just can’t handle the truth, too immature and too in denial.

    Mainstream Australians (from around the world) handled the truth about all sorts of issues and accepting that the first People were dispossessed and many have a genetic memory of loss and displacement is the problem … immature? Compared to what? The maturity of the First People? What? Denial of what?

    One day Australia will grow up and we’ll move forward, but it won’t be under any of these current politicians, too fearful of the racist backlash, it will take another whitlam type I think. Someone who can show humanity as strength.

    And just how do you see this “humanity as strength”, KL … you seem to be “searching” for a “conclusion” but what would that look like in reality?

  177. Tom R permalink
    June 1, 2015 7:18 pm

    #ditto for citizens jobs, health, welfare, education,

    Think about that just briefly you vacuous tool

  178. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 7:33 pm

    And just how do you see this “humanity as strength”, KL … you seem to be “searching” for a “conclusion” but what would that look like in reality?

    I’ll let you know when we get there TB!

    conclusion?

    If you mean reconciliation, with aboriginal australians taking their place alongside us in society, that’s exactly the conclusion I’d like to see. Reconciliation, treaty, political representation and yes, compensation for descendants, all sounds good to me. I want to see them standing shoulder to shoulder with us and having full equality outcomes which are reflected in every socio-economic measure we care to use [health, education, welfare, employment etc].

  179. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 1, 2015 7:39 pm

    “… but I will not accept personal responsibility for something that happened two centuries ago …

    I don’t think it’s about what happened 200+ years ago. It is about what is happening now – the lingering dispossession, unacceptably high incarceration rates, literacy, health, being shunned by the community at large. It adds up to passive racism by the community.

    And it isn’t all about coughing up ever increasing funding taxpayer either, it’s about acceptance of culture, heritage, recognition of role models (even if they are sportsmen)

    Everyone has to accept a share of personal responsibility.

  180. June 1, 2015 7:47 pm

    “If I see anyone putting up a picture of an aboriginal and saying how much they look like an ape I will assume that they are deliberately using that to race bait. Why else would they do it?”

    Obviously not for the reason they explained. They must be racist. There is no other possible explanation.

  181. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 1, 2015 7:55 pm

    Obviously not for the reason they explained. They must be racist. There is no other possible explanation.

    oh yes, they look so much alike that the girl couldn’t tell him from an ape.

    nice one.

  182. June 1, 2015 8:01 pm

    “oh yes, they look so much alike that the girl couldn’t tell him from an ape.”

    The faux outrage is so endearing.

    She probably knew deep down he wasn’t really an ape, but the natural racism inherent in the white oppressor wouldn’t allow her to believe it.

  183. June 1, 2015 8:04 pm

    “She probably knew deep down he wasn’t really an ape, but the natural racism inherent in the white oppressor wouldn’t allow her to believe it.”

    😯

  184. June 1, 2015 8:22 pm

    There’s a rumour going around that Tony and Margie have split, and she;s just sticking around to keep up appearances till the next election.

    Has Tony been shagging Credlin?

  185. June 1, 2015 8:23 pm

    Eastern Staters.

    So bucolic.

  186. June 1, 2015 8:29 pm

    In the last week, I’ve been accused of being a pedophile defender, and a racist, neither of which bothered me.

    But bucolic! Fucking BUCOLIC! How dare you, sir?

  187. TB Queensland permalink
    June 1, 2015 8:44 pm

    In the last week, I’ve been accused of being a pedophile defender, and a racist,

    Yeah, I took note of that, ToSY … still it is the Trash … snaks an’ all … 🙂

    Eastern Staters.

    So bucolic.

    Thank christ I’m a Northerner … 🙂

  188. June 1, 2015 8:52 pm

    Oh yeah, and “a fucken ignorant Neanderthal”.

    But that was Tom R, so again, I didn’t take any offence at all. 😉

  189. June 1, 2015 10:08 pm

    You should think again team-cheerer, when l say,

    #ditto for citizens jobs, health, welfare, education

    l mean `all` demographics under Aust`s control, (boatpeople, aboriginals, gulag-prisoners, male/female, black/white, gay/straight, not merely the canoe-state selections)

    Previously, BOTH teams united to fcuk over,

    #single-mothers welfare cut on misogyny day

    #sank the gay marriage vote last time

    #dedicated to off-shore gulags

    #remove privacy of citizens, web-wiretapping

    yeah team-cheerer, the fcuking directions team-blib take is so very different to team-zombie #teabag.lite

  190. June 1, 2015 10:47 pm

    and team-cheerer, let`s not forget that both teams where keen to play find the imaginary wmdz for the last 13-years #oh.so.fcuking.different

  191. June 1, 2015 11:14 pm

    Anders Zorn, Hugo Resinger holding a fashionable grey Homburg hat, 1907

  192. June 1, 2015 11:32 pm

    Joaquin Sorolla. Self portrait, 1904

  193. June 1, 2015 11:44 pm

    Still Life with a Skull and a Writing Quill, 1628, Pieter Claesz

  194. June 2, 2015 12:01 am

    David A Leffel

  195. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2015 7:42 am

    But that was Tom R, so again, I didn’t take any offence at all. 😉

    Of course not, how can you argue against someone who is so right so many times 🙂

    let`s not forget that both teams where keen to play find the imaginary wmdz for the last 13-years

    Really, take a history lesson you blindfolded muppet

    http://australianpolitics.com/2003/03/20/why-labor-does-not-support-the-war-crean.html

  196. June 2, 2015 8:39 am

    Why do I get the feeling ToSY wants another arts thread..

    And people say I’m not very accommodating.

    How should he be banned?

  197. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2015 8:42 am

    How should he be banned?

    By another Arts thread? 🙂

    Waleed Aly NAILS it. Again.

  198. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2015 9:01 am

    love it reb

    He “ruined Indigenous Round by acting all Indigenous”

    😆

  199. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 9:54 am

    How should he be banned? You could use a rubber banned … :/

    Although all these frigging paintings should be rubber banned …

  200. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 9:59 am

    Hey! I really enjoyed the old abodidgeri man last night! Go Jack Charles!

    Should I be offended when he said that, if he advised himself at 20, he would have said, “… stop shooting up it’ll make you white, like them white dancers …?” Sounds racist to me … 😉

  201. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 10:26 am

    FDOTM on Adam Goodes…

    Fantastic reb, I’m going to buy one of those from the fdotm shop. Perhaps adam would like a present!

    https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBhXaHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmd1aW0uY28udWsvYTE4NGVmYWUzNDI5NjNmYWQzZGYxNGM3NjFmMzBlZDljZjFjYjRlYS8wXzBfMTY5Ml8xMDE1LzE2OTIuanBnFMAHFL4EABYAEgA&s=feCi7lCesl6BF0Ceqpk5qdyD8GcvNzo7zgueqXia5DQ

  202. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2015 10:29 am

    yeah team-cheerer, the fcuking directions team-blib take is so very different to team-zombie

    Of course, teamignorant remembers the few cases, and ignores the many that don’t fit within his little mantra

    #single-mothers welfare cut on misogyny day
    Ignoring ALL other welfare protections and increases offered by Labor

    #sank the gay marriage vote last time
    Ignoring that they took a vote where the vast majority of Labor voted for it.

    #dedicated to off-shore gulags
    No argument there, but, that wasn’t in your original rant

    #remove privacy of citizens, web-wiretapping
    try to keep to your original rant dopey

    #ditto for citizens jobs, health, welfare, education,

    The gap between the libs and Labor is huge, ESPECIALLY for jobs, health, welfare, and education, not those unrelated points you mentioned.

  203. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 10:31 am

    [FDOTM] Don’t forget June 4 is #National Andrew Bolt is a Dickhead Day!

    Buy a purple ribbon and donate to the NSW aboriginal legal aid service

  204. June 2, 2015 10:43 am

    hahahahahahhaha….

    Let the infighting begin!

  205. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 10:50 am

    …The gap between the libs and Labor is huge, ESPECIALLY for jobs, health, welfare, and education, not those unrelated points you mentioned…

    There’s not much of a gap from where I look either tomM.
    Labor’s gutless voting with the libs on legislation and their ongoing lurch to the right with the libs is the reason I went to the greens years ago. Neither of the two majors are protecting us from being corporatised, they are both welded to it. While at the same time they are both allowing our civil rights and freedoms to be eroded at the behest of corporations.

    … jobs, health, welfare, and education,..

    They might be better than the libs [who want it all completely privatised] but they are complicit in the gradual decline of it all. The neoliberal labor is the same as neoliberal liberal to me. All I hear from the two is the labor – jobs, jobs, jobs mantra and the libs productivity – productivity, productivity mantra.

    Neither of them are thinking of how we are doing as a society, they are only focused on the economy and causing irreparable harm to our own environment while they do so.

  206. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2015 11:09 am

    Neither of the two majors are protecting us from being corporatised, they are both welded to it.

    Someone should tell the corporations, cos they are continually seething at Labor.

    The neoliberal labor is the same as neoliberal liberal to me.

    Yep, I recall the march of the red army front page from the oz that highlighted this 😯

    Neither of them are thinking of how we are doing as a society

    So, you don’t think that Gonski, NDIS, Mining Tax or Carbon Price considered how we are doing as a society, or where we are going as one?

    they are only focused on the economy and causing irreparable harm to our own environment while they do so.

    Oh, I must have forgot to mention the Marine Parks and the banning of the Super Trawler above. My bad 😉

  207. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2015 11:11 am

    #ditto for citizens jobs, health, welfare, education,

    More pondering for the clueless

  208. June 2, 2015 11:12 am

    “”Neither of them are thinking of how we are doing as a society, they are only focused on the economy and causing irreparable harm to our own environment while they do so.””

    Not to mention the damage being done to our international reputation.

    And there are substantive issues that are just blithely ignore by the mainstream media, and an Australian population that is obsessed with real estate and reality TV.

    No one seems to care a toss about the fact that the Australian media is banned from Nauru and Christmas Island and more recently the new legislation that could see doctors and other healthcare workers flung in jail for two years if they report on the situations and conditions they encounter in offshore detention centres.

    But Adam Goodes, how dare he!

  209. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 11:18 am

  210. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 2, 2015 11:19 am

    Unions see “workers rights” and “union rights” as synonymous.

    “public services – owned by everyone” – What does that mean? If the private sector provides a service, are unions suggesting that it should be publicly owned?

    Looks like a lot of vacuous slogans.

  211. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2015 11:21 am

    If the private sector provides a service, are unions suggesting that it should be publicly owned?

    Wow, and then you mentioned “vacuous” 😯

  212. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2015 11:24 am

    No one seems to care a toss about the fact that the Australian media is banned from Nauru and Christmas Island and more recently the new legislation that could see doctors and other healthcare workers flung in jail for two years if they report on the situations and conditions they encounter in offshore detention centres.

    IAGREE!

    And Labor should be voting AGAINST these changes loudly instead of just whimpering along. I understand why Labor are cowtailing(?) along. That doesn’t excuse it.

    Of course, the media would come awake then, but not for the reasons they should.

  213. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 2, 2015 11:30 am

    “public services – owned by everyone”

    What unions mean – keep all inefficient public servants employed.

  214. June 2, 2015 11:31 am

    Libspill 3.0

    In the wake of a new poll that shows the LNP diving in the polls, a budget that has business confidence heading south, and LNP MPs openly savaging each other over ME, and MPs leaking to the media (inc Tony Abbott leaking to News Ltd) about stripping citizenship rights before discussing it with cabinet, today Tony Abbott has apparently told the party-room that Cabinet had “come to Jesus moment.”

    A “”jesus moment”” FFS…

    What sort of individual even has that sort of language circulating in his vocabulary…?

  215. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 11:40 am

    What sort of individual even has that sort of language circulating in his vocabulary…?

    I’m too busy to answer completely … FUCKWIT! Springs to mind!

  216. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 11:40 am

    All I can say is that I have been unhappy with Labor for a long time, unhappy enough to vote for the greens. I have felt that labor has not represented my political views, in fact they seem to be totally ignoring them.

  217. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2015 11:52 am

    I have felt that labor has not represented my political views, in fact they seem to be totally ignoring them.

    I can (largely) understand that AO. And, whilst I would like to blame the media entirely, it is true, Labor are NOT Greens OR anti-corporation.

    They have ALWAYS sat across the divide (imo) Balancing (or trying to) the economy with the environment, and the business with the worker.

    It does mean that the media can pick and choose how they want them perceived at a particular time.

    I just thought I’d throw those examples up to remind you, in context, of the aims and achievements of Labors more recent policies 😉

    What unions mean – keep all inefficient public servants employed.

    How you got making any private service a public one out of that is beyond me. And, since advancing rights for workers is most often tied tightly to productivity outcomes, not really sure how you come to this latter conclusion. But, then, logic often doesn’t enter into it does it yomm

  218. Walrus permalink
    June 2, 2015 11:53 am

    What sort of individual even has that sort of language circulating in his vocabulary…?

  219. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 12:07 pm

  220. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 12:09 pm

  221. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 12:10 pm

  222. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 12:21 pm

    could it be the recent poll that has tony getting all rioty?

  223. June 2, 2015 12:34 pm

    “”Tony Abbott has read the riot act to his colleagues, warning there would be personal consequences for anyone caught leaking.””

    Hilarious! Especially when it was the PMO that was accused of leaking the citizenship stripping policy to News Ltd before it was presented to cabinet…

  224. June 2, 2015 12:37 pm

    How’s the hilarity…..!

  225. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 12:46 pm

    Kirribilli House lifestyle blinds Tony Abbott to the cost of Australia’s housing bubble:
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/kirribilli-house-lifestyle-blinds-tony-abbott-to-the-cost-of-australias-housing-bubble-20150601-ghekoj.html

    …Asked if he agrees that Sydney is facing a housing bubble the PM responds that as a homeowner himself, he’s hoping house prices continue to grow…

  226. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 12:50 pm

    How’s the hilarity…..!

    😆 quick, get their metadata tony and george!
    [or…will pollies somehow end up exempt from the laws they impose upon the rest of us?]

  227. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 1:06 pm

    hmmm, where was tony last night? 😉

    …But the post-match explanation came too late and, in any case, was irrelevant. White people were very scared and very, very upset.

    What has followed in the last few days has ranged from racists vandalising Goodes’ Wikipedia page with pictures of monkeys, to dissections across major media outlets as to whether his celebration – during the Indigenous Round no less – was ‘appropriate’ or not..

    …The level of delusion it takes to elevate Goodes’ invisible spear to an act of violence is the same level of delusion required to ignore centuries of actual violence on this continent; genocidal massacres, rapes, kidnappings and systemic apartheid…

    This level of delusion is, unfortunately, the national status quo.

    – See more at: https://newmatilda.com/2015/06/02/aamer-rahman-what-adam-goodes-invisible-spear-shows-us#sthash.ahDzH8wI.dpuf

  228. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 1:13 pm

  229. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 2:05 pm

    All I can see is my own comments on the right hand side, I’m getting another in before I’m off to work;)

    I can (largely) understand that AO. And, whilst I would like to blame the media entirely, it is true, Labor are NOT Greens OR anti-corporation.

    That’s the crux of the problem tomR, it is always one of the two majors who gain power and if no-one is listening to what we, the people want, there’s just no point is there? There’s people demonstrating all over the place and governments just aren’t listening. No wonder we are totally pissed off with our politicians and their parties.

    If labor is just as happy to have the relentless march of predatory corporations into our national politics, national policy and our very lives and livelihoods, just who will stand up for the citizens of this country and their wishes?

    They don’t have to be anti corporation but they shouldn’t be so meekly acquiescent to their demands, over the wishes of the electorate.

    No-one represents the community and their concerns, it’s all about pleasing the vested interests of rent seeking, powerful lobby groups [headed by ex pollies who make a motza from these deals personally and financially].

  230. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 2:11 pm

    What sort of individual even has that sort of language circulating in his vocabulary…?

    You mean Heston’s script writer? Or Heston? ‘Cause he’s a redneck of the lean to the right and fall over yourself church goer anyway … dopey bastard that he is …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Personal consequences for anyone, caught leaking* … aggressive prick The Mad Abbott, hey … and The Acolytes are a bunch of piss weak tories … if my boss threatened me like that I’d tell the bastard where to go (in fact I once did!) …

    *Is that a leak of faith? Or piss-weak leak?

  231. armchair opinionator permalink
    June 2, 2015 2:15 pm

    😆 😆 😆

    First people arrested for ‘manspreading’ on New York subway;
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-01/first-person-arrested-for-manspreading-in-new-york/6511362

    Two men were arrested for “manspreading” and taking up too much room on the New York City subway, documents have revealed…

    …”Police officers had arrested two Latino men on the charge of ‘manspreading’ on the subway, presumably because they were taking up more than one seat and therefore inconveniencing other riders,” according to the report.

    The term “manspreading” was coined by internet users to describe men taking up more than one public transport seat, by sitting with their knees wide open…

  232. June 2, 2015 2:30 pm

    “Why do I get the feeling ToSY wants another arts thread..And people say I’m not very accommodating. How should he be banned?”

    Swiftly, and without mercy.

    “Although all these frigging paintings should be rubber banned …”

    I agree.

    “hmmm, where was tony last night?”

    I thought I was here, talking to you. Maybe it was all a dream.

  233. Tom R permalink
    June 2, 2015 2:34 pm

    just who will stand up for the citizens of this country and their wishes?

    Perhaps the ones who brought in a mIning Tax and attempted to curb the mulch-nationals?

  234. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 2, 2015 2:52 pm

    An old friend of mine is a teacher in Los Angeles, her school has several parent’s organisations.

    One of them is the “Black Parents Organization”

    She thought that was fine, I’m not sure I’d like to see that type of structure here.

  235. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 4:30 pm

    This the kind of deceit from governments that really pisses me off …

    The price rises were not mentioned by Health Minister Sussan Ley in any of her press releases or material made public about the agreement last week.

    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/why-youll-be-paying-more-for-prescription-medicines/story-fneuz9ev-1227379544642

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I thought I was here, talking to you. Maybe it was all a dream.

    More like a fkn nightmare … 🙄

  236. June 2, 2015 4:31 pm

    Nothing to be alarmed, or even cynically vigilant, about here…nothing at all. Not the least bit suspicious.

    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/02/australian-mps-allowed-to-see-top-secret-trade-deal-text-on-condition-of-confidentiality

  237. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 4:36 pm

    This the kind of deceit from governments that really pisses me off …

  238. June 2, 2015 5:06 pm

    What we might eventually get, in the relative short term, is AbbottCorp spruiking all of the net positives & TPP sweeteners in a politically opportunist fashion. They won’t divulge how they’ve sold our souls to the TPP or specifics of the negatives until they’re ‘discovered’, as we have our sovereignty raped, along the way; once it’s all too late.

    This type of shit should be utterly transparent to the voting population prior to any ratification…preferably before a Federal election.

  239. June 2, 2015 5:25 pm

    “Still Life with a Skull and a Writing Quill”

    Now that’s what I call art! Disassociated human body parts, fleshed or defleshed. Could have done with a few more litres of blood perhaps?

  240. June 2, 2015 5:27 pm

    ” Don’t forget June 4 is #National Andrew Bolt is a Dickhead Day!”

    Like Mothers’ & Fathers’ Day, it’s actually every day of the year! But thanks for the reminder.

  241. June 2, 2015 5:34 pm

    “There’s not much of a gap from where I look either tomM.
    Labor’s gutless voting with the libs on legislation and their ongoing lurch to the right with the libs is the reason I went to the greens years ago. Neither of the two majors are protecting us from being corporatised, they are both welded to it. While at the same time they are both allowing our civil rights and freedoms to be eroded at the behest of corporations.”

    Strongly agree…apart from the voting for the Greens bit (although, I do find parity with them [moreso than the ALP] on several issues- I suppose I just have a nose for posing, inner-city greens?) .
    The majors are in bed with those who would lord over us (apart from them) from afar (even from foreign States).
    I say, Fuck That.

    The only solution is a more politically aware, better educated voting population…but that is in stasis. witness the influence of social media on the anti-halal lobby etc. Every ignorant fuckhead likes to frequent the niches where other ignorant, more strident fuckheads agree with them.

    The death of our public broadcaster would only exacerbate this problem.

  242. Walrus permalink
    June 2, 2015 5:43 pm

    “Every ignorant fuckhead likes to frequent the niches where other ignorant, more strident fuckheads agree with them.”

    That’s not entirely correct in fact on second thoughts that’s an entirely stupid comment

    Otherwise Cafe Whispers would be still running.

    🙂

  243. June 2, 2015 5:50 pm

    “No one seems to care a toss about the fact that the Australian media is banned from Nauru and Christmas Island and more recently the new legislation that could see doctors and other healthcare workers flung in jail for two years if they report on the situations and conditions they encounter in offshore detention centres.”

    I certainly care about that, as I articulated on your (excellent) relevant (I don’t do that very often~ sorry) thread!

    We are taking massive steps down the path towards totalitarianism recently. Aided and abetted, for the most part, by both sides of the House!

    All the fuckwit fearsquirters need to take stock & think about, when the (horrible, communist, leftist, gay-loving, muslim-licking) other major gets back in (an inevitability, sooner rather than later if AbbottCorp don’t learn a bit of political humility (they probably won’t, says I) how these very same laws which supposedly ‘protect’ them (squirt, squirt) from pertifying mooooslems, might be tuned to the next ‘group’ (perhaps they may find themselves within that category).

    Incredible lack of foresight; borne by actual teamcheering.

    And people sneer at Manufacturing Consent. 🙄

    What if both sides are complicit?

  244. June 2, 2015 5:52 pm

    “Otherwise Cafe Whispers would be still running.
    :)”

    Isn’t it just running under another name, with advertising, and even more pronounced self affirmatory intellectual masturbation now?

    Haven’t looked for months/year? Don’t know, but that’s how it looked last time I checked.
    Groupwank at it’s most lurid finest!

  245. June 2, 2015 6:15 pm

    “”Isn’t it just running under another name, with advertising,””

    Indeed, under the lofty self-titled “Independent Media Network”.

    BTW, I don’t get a red cent out of the ads that appear on this site. WordPress put them there so I imagine that’s how they recoup some of their costs.

  246. June 2, 2015 6:27 pm

    ‘Independent’ = G U F F A W

    There’s something wholesome about not enslaving your opinion to money, reb. Even if only a handful of us appreciate the time & effort. 😉

  247. June 2, 2015 6:28 pm

    At this juncture, I’d like to state how much I love offliberty.com.

    Thanks for the headsup on that one, relevant whistleblowers.

  248. June 2, 2015 6:30 pm

    I must have the upscale version. I don’t seem to get any ads here.

  249. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 6:38 pm

    The majors are in bed with those who would lord over us (apart from them) from afar (even from foreign States).

    Not …. da da dat dat da-a-a-a-a-a – THE ROBBER BARONS!

    Toylet?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That’s not entirely correct in fact on second thoughts that’s an entirely stupid comment

    And you are? And your history makes you an independent judge of stupid … oh, wait!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    We are taking massive steps down the path towards totalitarianism recently.

    And it shits me that people don’t see it

    And we are now “offending” other totalitarian states – eg China …

    Incredible lack of foresight; borne by actual teamcheering.

    Incredible lack of historical education/knowledge … imagine how “successful” the Nazis could have been with the info being generated now … and they were ultra efficient … sometimes being white and having round blues eyes is good … but sometimes its fkn NOT!

    What if both sides are complicit?

    You’re not sure, comrade!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    BTW, I don’t get a red cent out of the ads that appear on this site. WordPress put them there so I imagine that’s how they recoup some of their costs.

    ads? what fkn ads … oh – goodonya Kaspersky! LOL!

  250. June 2, 2015 6:38 pm

    I run through various filters, so I don’t get adds either…and I can pretend to be in other countries, on a whim, too.

  251. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 6:43 pm

    Yeah will bite the bullet on Hideme within hours … have a approval from The Minister for War, Water, Finance & Fun …

    Sad to report I’m about to plunge into hearing aids too – motor mech, rifles and a drummer and singer have taken their toll and my son has been ropeable for the last couple of years … anyone in the same boat check Blamey & Saunders Hear …

  252. June 2, 2015 6:53 pm

    “You’re not sure, comrade!”

    I was being ‘sure’ without trying to appear arrogant! 😉

    Oughta see me when I get arrogant!

  253. June 2, 2015 6:56 pm

    Whatever works, TB!

    Hearing aids are a necessary evil…and a more worthy alternative to wondering whatthefuck people are saying.

  254. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 7:30 pm

    Thanks, Toylet, B&S let me control the H/aids the “trade” hates ’em … all the more reason to buy! Good price, 3 year warranty, and lifelong HELP!

    Son gets really pissed … I like to think its ’cause he loves me and values input … chuckle!*

    *Massive chuckle – he does!

  255. June 2, 2015 7:36 pm

    Of course he does, TB.

    Been living through my own father’s heart problems recently. Still one of the fittest, strongest men I know. Hard, when the organs start packing up. Has always been a one man army. Will be until the day he becomes biomass, I suspect.

  256. June 2, 2015 7:39 pm

    “”Sad to report I’m about to plunge into hearing aids too “”

    Och, never mind TB…

    I’ve recently had to get reading glasses…

    I’m turning into an old codger…

  257. June 2, 2015 8:01 pm

    There is only one alternative to becoming older.

    If you only recently got reading glasses, reb, I reckon you’re way ahead of most people of a similar age (that I suspect you may be 😉 ) .

    We weren’t built to last forever. The Creator obviously doesn’t have a fucking clue, ay.

  258. June 2, 2015 8:10 pm

    “”We weren’t built to last forever. “”

    I know.

    It’s bitterly disappointing.

    If only I could trade myself in for a younger model, but sadly we only get one chassis…

  259. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 8:19 pm

    LOL! Creator! WTF is that? Wally? He’s pretty creative …

    Thanks for above BTW … you may recall how “close” my family is …

    One thing I’ve noticed is how long it takes me to “recover” from – simple injuries, a days hard yakka etc … 155 years? In ya dreams Jocky!

    And I walk 5km a day (- ‘cept Sundays – about 45 to 60 minutes) and this place is how I keep my brain going! Many thanks, sreb!

    I still do pretty well on the IQ tests too …

    My Mensa score surprised the shite out of me. Pleasantly.

    Age is probably just a number … I know some pretty old immature people and some very mature young people …

    I guess what slows people down with hearing is they already have glasses and you think – more fkn hardware … the curse of the BBs I guess … The Minister and I are now top of the pile … all our forebears are gone and the pollies and singers and actors we grew up with are falling off the perch … ’tis no wonder that many older people get depressed … luckily for me and mine we have a great life and an inherent sense of humour! My 17 yo has taken to calling me the old fart after his dad … love it!

    Sorry, that sounds fkn maudlin … and its quite the opposite … although I am a fan of Wallander (Swedish and Pommie versions!) … 🙂

  260. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 8:24 pm

    Sounds like Google … only from the air …

    THE Federal Bureau of Investigation is operating a small air force with scores of low-flying planes across the US carrying video and, at times, mobile phone surveillance technology — all hidden behind fictitious companies that are fronts for the government, the Associated Press has learned.

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/fbi-behind-mysterious-surveillance-aircraft-over-us-cities/story-fnjwubd2-1227380210635

  261. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 8:26 pm

    BTW, sreb, when is the tattoo on?

  262. June 2, 2015 8:26 pm

    “”Sorry, that sounds fkn maudlin …””

    Not at all, and you’re right age is just a number. Look at Neil FFS.

  263. June 2, 2015 8:27 pm

    I was conceived, spawned, bred, birthed…not ‘created’.

    I’m sure you know what I mean. 😉

    A sharp mind makes the rest worthwhile, TB.

  264. June 2, 2015 8:28 pm

    February, C’mon doon, y’know ye wint tae!

    http://www.edinburghtattoo.com.au

  265. June 2, 2015 8:31 pm

    “I’m sure you know what I mean””

    The thing that shits me is that there are just so many ppl who harbour racist views towards minorities like asylum seekers n such.

    It’s just the luck of the draw that we were fortunate enough to be incarnated in a developed nation.

    Some ppl seem to think that they were instrumental in the decision.

  266. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 8:48 pm

    It’s just the luck of the draw that we were fortunate enough to be incarnated in a developed nation.

    In my case (and as it turns out the lovely lady I married!) it was my old man who was playing up (as matelots do – apparently – and my father in law, he died of cancer when The Minister was 12) and my Mum gave the ultimatum Australia for the kids or you can FO … it also involved 12 months of interviews, police references and the fact that they had kids, AND that the fare was 10 quid each (kids were free) etc …

    My birthplace is really beautiful … but I love Australia and what it stood for when I arrived, at 12, in 1961 … we seem to be losing that identity somehow and I see our family being a bit different to the “modern” family … but I’m proud of our values …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    February, C’mon doon, y’know ye wint tae!

    Aye, ah do wee, Geordie, ’tis the missus I must convince … al’tho’ she’s ne’er set foot in yon city!

  267. June 2, 2015 8:50 pm

    Well there’s always a first time to experience culcha TB…

  268. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 8:55 pm

    LOL! yep … will now approach the bookkeeper/holiday maker!

    Please wait … ….. ….. …. …. ….

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    BTW (I assume, sreb, is still playing with Mac – fanbois are fanbois) have you applied for your free version of Windows 10 (full version) if you own Win 7 or Win 8 … just got my notice …

  269. TB Queensland permalink
    June 2, 2015 8:58 pm

    Well there’s always a first time to experience culcha TB

    Chortle! I HAVE been to Mexico City before – culcha sort of explains it! … Sydney and I have a three day limit! And then arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    Must be the village in me, hey? 😉

  270. June 3, 2015 1:14 am

    reb”’Not to mention the damage being done to our international reputation.””#tick

    reb”””And there are substantive issues that are just blithely ignore by the mainstream media,”””’#fully.agree

    reb.3”””and an Australian population that is obsessed with real estate and reality TV.””””’

    #obsessed.? Nah, it`s more like `force.fed` viewers, by the networks l think. l notice the `reality` crap is seeping onto sbs and my abc too.

    reb.4”””’No one seems to care a toss about the fact that the Australian media is banned from Nauru and Christmas Island and more recently the new legislation that could see doctors and other healthcare workers flung in jail for two years if they report on the situations and conditions they encounter in offshore detention centres.”””’

    #3+4 l think this indicates the networks are floundering to retain viewers, or be believed/seem-important to viewers. The networks `numbers` seem to be in free-fall to attract/retain eye-balls, in much the same way the `press` is. The `wolf-criers` are now being ignored by viewers.

    (by the way, future free-to-air shows will probably have lots of product placement and `internal` advertisements built into them, to try and stop technology `by-passing` the adverts)

    reb”””But Adam Goodes, how dare he!””#l.know

  271. June 3, 2015 2:18 am

    Firstly team-cheerer, l agree with the vast bulk of armchair`s comments in reply to you and me.

    tr”””’Perhaps the ones who brought in a mIning Tax and attempted to curb the mulch-nationals?”””

    #or `perhaps` they shouldn`t have wasted their effort trying `extract` extra tax dependent on various market variable ifs and buts, and `should` have closed `unfair` loop-holes that would have `actually` raised a `permanent` return to treasury that was not dependent on a single `sector` or market. Cheering otherwise is the actions of a dill.

    #and getting back to it, your teabag-lites taking minor different paths, and having micro-details of difference, ending in the identical `result` as the teabags, is NOT a difference worth mentioning. The `result`, way too often by both `teams` is anti-citizen/person.

  272. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2015 8:36 am

    It continues. Nobody does leadership brawls like the ALP

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/the-killing-season-julia-gillard-accuses-kevin-rudd-of-physical-intimidation/story-fni0fiyv-1227380635355

    OLD Labor leadership wounds are set to be reopened with the screening of a TV series tracking the downfall of the Rudd and Gillard prime ministerships.

    In the ABC series The Killing Season, Ms Gillard recounts an episode where she alleges Mr Rudd, angry with a decision she made about Parliamentary question time, approached her, and “physically stepped into my space.’’

    “Kevin was always very anxious to strut his stuff in Question Time,’’ she recalls.

    She said the incident was “quite a bullying encounter

  273. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2015 8:59 am

    Yes, who will we believe? Kevin or Julia?

    • Rudd will be remembered for his stolen generation apology.
    • Gillard will be remembered for her serial duplicity.

  274. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2015 9:27 am

    Gillard will be remembered for her serial duplicity.

    You mean renigging on a deal with a pollie

    If that is “serial”, what the fuck is yabot?

    Nobody does leadership brawls like the ALP

    You mean nobody lingers on them like a rabid lefty abc 😆

  275. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2015 9:47 am

    Serial duplicity-
    • Breaking her written commitment (you know the important one that got her into government)
    • Breaking her word to Rudd- when she said she would give him 2 terms, then again on the day of the challenge when she told him she would give him more time
    • Thompson had her full support, right up until he didn’t
    • No carbon tax
    • A few others that I could think of if I could be bothered

  276. June 3, 2015 9:49 am

    the””Killing Season””’

    #you know you can`t believe that kneel, a young ignorant teabag such as yourself can`t go believing my abc will put aside it`s taxpayer-funded `bias` for teabag benefits, can you

    #l`m sure the rest of us will thoroughly enjoy it, on my abc `breakfast` there has been several `clips` from the first episode (and there is three episodes) of joolya calling kevin07 a bully, and kevin07 calling joolya a liar #surprise.surprise

    #there is something in it for just about everybody, boo of melb will enjoy that kevin07 didn`t trust blib and his onion mates, l hope to see nanny roxon spew more bile on kevin07 along with macklan, the non-aligned will enjoy the rabble creating more green supporters

    #three fun-packed episodes of tit-for-tat from the rabble, and by the end of it, mr-rabbit will have plenty of `election-material` on just how fcuking hopeless they are. Come election time, mr-rabbit won`t have to do much to put blib out of his misery, as his team will have already shot him in the head.

    #tune in tuesday to my abc!

  277. Walrus permalink
    June 3, 2015 9:52 am

    OK well I’m certainly in favour of Gay Marriage now that we are likely to be able to make a few bucks out of it.

    It must be a good idea.

    Cost Benefit Analysis completed ………lets implement

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/samesex-marriage-could-be-a-12-billion-stimulus-package-for-business-20150602-gheyuv.html

  278. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2015 10:01 am

    A few others that I could think of if I could be bothered

    ROFL

    breaking her word to Rudd ROFL (cos, rudd can be believed 😉 ) and back room deals yea, really yomm?

    Thompson had her full support, right up until he didn’t

    Not really “breaking her word” is it?

    No carbon tax

    You really don’t want to go there again, do you?

    “serial” ROFL

    Like I said, what word would you useto describe yabot in that vein I wonder?

  279. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2015 10:07 am

    cos, rudd can be believed

    You voted for him.

  280. June 3, 2015 10:07 am

    I don’t remember Kevin or Julia comparing themselves to Jesus…

  281. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2015 10:12 am

    I don’t remember Kevin or Julia comparing themselves to Jesus…

    I’m not sure he was just “comparing” reb

    You voted for him.

    And I’m glad I did. Imagine the recession we would have had if the libs had run their “policies” after the GFC

    I mean, look at the damage they are doing WITHOUT a Global Financial Crisis to handle.

    Economists are talking about recession again – this time it’s not unwarranted

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-03/jericho-talk-of-recession/6515288

  282. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 3, 2015 10:20 am

    Rudd was so bad he had to be stabbed. Then he had to be resurrected for the sake of a few more votes. Then Billy Two Knives took over. Ain’t life grand in Unionland.

  283. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2015 10:23 am

    And I’m glad I did. Imagine the recession we would have had if the libs had run their “policies” after the GFC

    And that is all you have. Your imagination. If Howard had been elected in 2007, unemployment would have been lower, deficit would be lower and we would not have spent $12B housing all the boat people who came under the ALP govt.

    There are thousands of people in UNHCR camps we would have taken whose lives you have destroyed if Howard had been elected. Like all Labor supporters you do not care about people.

  284. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2015 10:32 am

    And that is all you have. Your imagination

    No nil, it’s called history

    The libs stated they would not have run the second round of stimulus. History shows that this second round was required to avert a recession in the aftermath of the GFC. Hence, with their approach, we would have had one.

  285. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2015 10:36 am

    Cost Benefit Analysis completed ………lets implement

    Chuckle … you must be in finance or sumfin” ?

    BTW, the CBA had been done elsewhere (states I think) that translated easily to our economy … and had been commented on here weeks, nay months ago …

    As for the ABC Rudd/Gillard crap … move on their gone … its Tony Attilla & The Huns who are razing, raping and pillaging the countryside and the cities RIGHT NOW!

  286. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2015 10:38 am

    History shows?? Mate you are a fool.

    You are the man who told me that the Coalition would not support the car industry. Support was promised until 2020. You then said they threatened Holden to leave. It was Holden who threatened the Australian govt.

    Under your policies cars made in Australia fell from 25% in 2007 to 10% in 2013.

    How many lives have you destroyed TomR???

  287. Walrus permalink
    June 3, 2015 10:39 am

    “Economists are talking about recession again – this time it’s not unwarranted”

    Really ?????????????????????????????

    Who are these Economists he speaks of…………………….?

    He names not even one.

  288. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2015 11:15 am

    Support was promised until 2020.

    The ABC was promised not to be cut
    Education was promised not to be cut

    He promised not to get rid of Locals

    Yea promises ROFL

    You then said they threatened Holden to leave.

    How many fucken times do you need to see the link before it gets through your thick head. One more at least 😉

    Taunts in Parliament and text brought about General Motors Holden’s exit from Australia

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/taunts-in-parliament-and-text-brought-about-general-motors-holdens-exit-from-australia-20131211-2z6i6.html

    It was Holden who threatened the Australian govt.

    Threatened? Please, I’d like to see this “threat”

  289. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2015 11:27 am

    It was Holden who threatened the Australian govt . The journalist in your link is a liar.

    http://www.afr.com/news/politics/national/holden-job-cuts-threaten-car-handouts-20130408-ji0m5

    Holden threatened to leave Australia last year unless the $275 million was forthcoming and the federal government hopes to calm things down. One source said the $275 million was “about securing investment in the two next-generation cars, not closing the place down’’.

    And money promised was legislated until 2020.

  290. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2015 11:32 am

    That’s back in Labors time nil, try and get your timelines straight.

    And you can talk of promises all you want, but just remember who “promised” it, and then what they did in Question Time. That isn’t something made up, its in the fucken Hansard!

  291. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2015 11:40 am

    That’s back in Labors time nil, try and get your timelines straight

    Exactly. And Holden was continually threatening the Australian govt. Give us more money or we will leave they proclaimed.

    It was Holden who threatened Hockey.

    But you must be happy. In 2007, 25% of cars were made in Australia. Under the govt you voted for in 2013 we made 10% of cars in Australia.

  292. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2015 11:46 am

    That’s interesting. From 25% to 10% in 6 years.

    The ALP reduced the industry more than the Libs!

    I’d be interested in a little more info on that Neil.

  293. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2015 12:02 pm

    The ALP reduced the industry more than the Libs!

    Don’t think the government actually determines the market share … Holden fkd itself trying to sell Yankee designed shite …

    Australia has one of the largest number of car marques sold in country … its called competition …

  294. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2015 12:22 pm

    It actually has the most diverse range of cars in the world TB. No other country has just about every model available to consumers.

    But if the local market share fell by 60% in 6 years, even with all the support from the ALP, it really was in its death throws.

  295. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2015 12:29 pm

    I’d be interested in a little more info on that Neil.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-16/kohler-car-industry/5025360

    In 2008, local manufacturers sold 160,000 cars out of total Australian sales of 1.1 million, or 22 per cent. In 2012, local manufacture was 138,000, or 12 per cent of the market. Year to date 2013, this is down to 10 per cent, which is to say 90 per cent of cars are imported.

  296. THE SHOUTING PEDANT permalink
    June 3, 2015 12:29 pm

    I think you mean “Death Throes”” ?

  297. Walrus permalink
    June 3, 2015 12:33 pm

    “”In 2008, local manufacturers sold 160,000 cars out of total Australian sales of 1.1 million, or 22 per cent.””

    How does 160K divided by 1.1M give an answer of 22% ?

    I need to know quickly as I can usually get 3 plus 3 (if asked to) to equal 5 but cant work that one out

  298. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2015 12:42 pm

    OK Walrus you have a point but this is true

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/australian-car-industry-slams-the-brakes-biggest-sales-slowdown-since-the-gfc-and-tsunami/story-fnkgdhrc-1227175944937

    However, the Australian car manufacturing industry has been in free fall since the most recent peak of 344,000 vehicles were produced locally just seven years ago, in 2007.In 1960, more than 90 per cent of cars sold in Australia were made locally. In 2005, locally made vehicles accounted for one in four (25 per cent) of all new cars sold. In 2014, less than one in 10 cars (or 9 per cent) was built locally.

  299. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2015 12:47 pm

    I think you mean “Death Throes”” ?

    THANK YOU. FINALLY SOMEONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN LANGUAGE!

  300. Walrus permalink
    June 3, 2015 12:52 pm

    I’m always interested in bad language

  301. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2015 1:38 pm

    This needs to be posted again.

    However, the Australian car manufacturing industry has been in free fall since the most recent peak of 344,000 vehicles were produced locally just seven years ago, in 2007……………….In 2005, locally made vehicles accounted for one in four (25 per cent) of all new cars sold. In 2014, less than one in 10 cars (or 9 per cent) was built locally.

  302. Walrus permalink
    June 3, 2015 1:43 pm

    New South Wales Parliament has officially declared Eddie Maguire a habitual “boofhead”

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/nsw-parliament-officially-labels-eddie-mcguire-a-boofhead-over-adam-goodes-remarks-20150603-ghfnal.html

  303. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2015 1:51 pm

    In 2005, locally made vehicles accounted for one in four (25 per cent) of all new cars sold. In 2014, less than one in 10 cars (or 9 per cent) was built locally.

    Wow, that also corresponds with the GFC Do you think there is perhaps something there? Think back to your link before about “threats” nil, as a hint 😉

  304. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2015 2:00 pm

    Do you think there is perhaps something there?

    No I do not think there is something there.

  305. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2015 2:23 pm

    But if the local market share fell by 60% in 6 years, even with all the support from the ALP, it really was in its death throws. Yeah – throes …

    And I have never denied that … you may recall I did not support throwing away more of taxpayers hard earned at an American company – General Motors …

    … the name Holden was retained for obvious marketing reasons …

    … most people make decisions based upon emotion not logic … you’d be surprised how many red cars I sold simply because someone’s wife of girlfriend liked the colour of my Datsun 1200 hatchback demo! (Those were the days!)

    And why people still buy (GM) Holden trucks (they have never actually built a car that drives like a car!)

    THANK YOU. FINALLY SOMEONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN LANGUAGE!

    Which one are you interested in, ToM? Have you tried English?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    No I do not think there is something there.

    I actually believe that, TR , we know it doesn’t think about anything much … unless you can cut and paste from the Young Libs and the Older Libs that’s about it …

  306. June 3, 2015 2:45 pm

    There’s a new force on the Internet going under the guise of “myknittingwool” and by all accounts they’re going to give Catching Up a run for her money, if these tweets are anything to go by…

  307. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 3, 2015 3:07 pm

    myknittingwool?

  308. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2015 3:30 pm

    Bolt has an anti Adam Goodes campaign going on, so I’ve just submitted a comment. Will it be published?

    Apparently the harka is war dance. Ban the All Blacks (and by the way, how is it acceptable to call a team Black when some are white?)

    At every sporting victory the French have a chant/song that promotes using the blood of their enemies to water their fields (it happens to be their national anthem no less!). Ban French people!

    And most amazingly one of our own National Songs idolizes a vagrant criminal who commits suicide when about to be captured by the police! Ban it!

  309. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2015 3:32 pm

    Catching Up has clearly taken to twitter.

  310. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2015 3:45 pm

    …and it looks as if I qualify as a kook –

    http://kookoftheday.tumblr.com/

  311. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 3, 2015 4:08 pm

    Haka is the usual spelling.

  312. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 3, 2015 4:14 pm

    So which kook are you?

  313. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2015 4:30 pm

    Haka – heavens! That guarantees it won’t get published and 2 spelling mistakes in quick succession. I’m not even in Queensland.

  314. June 3, 2015 4:32 pm

    “Bolt has an anti Adam Goodes campaign going ”

    In fact, it’s been going since a leftist, free speech hating, aboriginal apologist ALP government allowed Goodes to be crowned Australian Of The Year on its watch.

    Bolt has a loooong history of getting pissy about indigenous issues (Still Not Sorry? anyone). He got even more neurotic about it all after having his arse handed to him by the courts (again).

  315. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 3, 2015 4:34 pm

    This type of kook TB – think of this car with a surfboard sticking out of it.

  316. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2015 4:40 pm

    Doncha luv hypocrisy …

    The Courier-Mail has published serious allegations against Member of Parliament Rick Williams, and does not do so lightly having invested considerable time investigating the claims.

    The Courier-Mail is satisfied there are reasonable grounds to justify further investigation and has chosen to publish so the Queensland public is made aware of the serious claims — and we stress they are only claims at this stage.

    But as an MP Mr Williams’ role is to serve Queensland and members of the public are entitled to be fully aware of all relevant facts so they can make an assessment as to whether he is worthy of their vote. As a member of Parliament’s Legal Affairs and Community Safety Committee, Mr Williams is also involved in the oversight of police.

    The strength of the state’s system of government depends on the quality of our politicians. Their integrity is as important as their skill as parliamentarians.

    The Queensland public must have confidence MPs are of impeccable character.

    Throughout the investigation The Courier-Mail has maintained an open mind. Statutory declarations were obtained, corroborating evidence tested and Mr Williams given the opportunity to respond.

    The Courier-Mail stands ready and willing to co-operate with Queensland police if necessary.

    The public can now judge and our system will be the better for it.

    Lots of “allegations” and dropped charges here … did the CM go to the cops … nah … and Sprinborg? … is a Dickhead of the highest magnitude!

  317. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2015 4:44 pm

    harka … I think you mean haka, ToM … Maori is not a language you are interested in …

  318. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2015 4:47 pm

    I’m not even in Queensland

    Noice try sweetheart but there’s a big difference between a typo and an obvious spelling mistake … chortle!

    This is a sign of dementia … This type of kook TB … It were … sb …

  319. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2015 5:02 pm

    This is a sign of dementia

    Yea, he spelt Kouk wrong 🙂

  320. June 3, 2015 5:45 pm

    l just checked kouk, yep, sure 17.5% of white-market baccy sales are down since nanny roxon`s military-grade packaging came in. Kouk`s previous baccy post refers to Aust Burro of Surveys data, which is always true, correct, and believable, just check their un/employment numbers. As military-grade packaging is a roaring success, the `team` should apply it to booze and junk-food which are the cause of other health problems too.

  321. June 3, 2015 6:17 pm

    Interesting article…

    “”Anticipating this moment is just as important as savouring it.””

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/06/03/comment-another-reason-spend-money-experiences-rather-things

  322. June 3, 2015 6:22 pm

    Ahahaha!

    YomM got called a dropkick & ridiculed by various Boltian limpets.

    At least he got his comment published, I suppose. I tried the experiment too…and got culled. Same as it ever was then.

  323. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2015 6:25 pm

    Toylet, try a few spelling mistakes a la Bogan Mexican City … that’s how Tom’s got through …

  324. Neil of Sydney permalink
    June 3, 2015 6:34 pm

    Yes i like this comment

    “Tom, you dropkick, the All Blacks are called that because of their uniforms. Have you not made that connection?

    Anyway it is useless posting on Bolt. After the leftist/socialists censored Bolt his blog is useless. It takes hours for the posts to appear if ever. All the comments have to be moderated because lefties do not like Bolt.

  325. June 3, 2015 6:44 pm

    Nice try though YomM, seriously.

    The odd, semi-balanced commenter that does get through there tends to make the retorts of Bolt’s gargoyles apoplectic. Even though three quarters ignore good sense, there is the odd one there who may actually pay attention to a divergent, sensible analysis.

    Go YomM.

    It would be amusing to see you post a comment on one of his regular Union Bashing Threads. You’d be likely to get high fives, arse-licking & fawning comments in response. Says heaps.

  326. June 3, 2015 6:49 pm

    Anyway it is useless posting on Bolt. After the leftist/socialists Court censored ruled against Herr Pied Piper his blog is useless. It takes hours for the posts to appear if ever. All the comments have to be moderated because lefties his employer fears the consequences of further legal actions, brought about by his loony adherents & their predictably unhinged comments do not like Bolt.

    Not for the first time, and not for the last…Kneel misses the fucking point.

  327. June 3, 2015 6:54 pm

    TB

    I watched the latest episode of HBO’s version of Thrones two days ago, with another book reader (my daughter)…then we watched it again last night.

    They’ve gone beyond the end of the last released book and are now treading (awesome) ground! One of the best episodes ever. I don’t say that lightly.

    Winter Is Here…bitches. All of the poltical intrigue, war & murder South of The Wall has always been a distraction from the True Threat.

    Won’t say any more now in case you (probably?) haven’t seen it.

  328. June 3, 2015 6:54 pm

    Kneel’s just having a cum to jebus bolt moment.

  329. June 3, 2015 6:56 pm

    My neighbour’s just dropped round with GoT on a USB stick for my better half. I guess I’m going to be subjected to it tonight.

    He also put “It Follows” on it too.

    Which is quite a good movie, apparently….

  330. June 3, 2015 7:04 pm

    “Kneel’s just having a cum to jebus bolt moment.”

    Bolt is likely a ‘jesus-like’ figure to Kneel.

    Please, Kneel, articulate your views on jesus and Bolt to me. I’m sick of you using my name in misattribution.
    Put your money where your fucking mouth is.

  331. June 3, 2015 7:09 pm

    “My neighbour’s just dropped round with GoT on a USB stick for my better half. I guess I’m going to be subjected to it tonight.”

    I don’t relish its popularity.

    The books have been around for a very long time.

    But, I do have some admiration with the job HBO is doing with ‘interpreting’ such volumes into a visual medium.

    Haven’t ‘not known’ what was coming for the last several years, but now find myself in that place…and it’s exciting/trepidatious again.

  332. Tom R permalink
    June 3, 2015 7:09 pm

    After the leftist/socialists censored Bolt his blog is useless

    You got a link fer that, or has that been “censored” too lol

  333. TB Queensland permalink
    June 3, 2015 7:56 pm

    Toylet,

    Thanks for the heads up … I haven’t watched the latest GoT at all – I have the first ep on my desktop …

    I’ve got 333 films on Plex and with the recordings on the Topfield we are swamped with entertainment …

    Recommend Plex … the new version is really good … I just pointed to all the main film file and it gathered ’em up and gave them the proper title and cover and blurb …

    Really easy on the Smart TV …

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    He also put “It Follows” on it too.

    Which is quite a good movie, apparently….

    I read that somewhere recently … if I recall there was a review about San Andreas too …

  334. June 3, 2015 7:59 pm

    Anyone seen Mad Max? Rating please.

  335. June 3, 2015 8:09 pm

    Fuck you, TB, I’m putting up another picture. (There’s nowhere else to put them, anyway.)

    I think David Leffel had Sargent’s portrait of Robert Louis Stevenson in mind when he did this selfie. Compare the left hand, for a start.

  336. June 3, 2015 8:10 pm

    4 stars ToSY..

    If you like an action movie on steroids and special effects you’ll leave satisfied.

    Don’t expect too much character or plot development.. Not that that really matters with a movie like this…

  337. June 3, 2015 8:15 pm

    Amazingly, there has been a backlash (apparently/supposedly) from corners of the internet which saw it as feminist propaganda, or something like that.

    What The Actual Fuck?!

  338. June 3, 2015 8:15 pm

    Thanks reb. I heard it was action from go to whoa. I also read there was no CGI used, so all the stunts are “real”.

  339. June 3, 2015 8:16 pm

    “”There’s nowhere else to put them, anyway.””

    Okay, okay, enough already FFS…..!!!

    https://theguttertrash.com/2015/06/03/tosys-art-corner/

  340. June 3, 2015 8:16 pm

    * Mad Max

  341. June 3, 2015 8:17 pm

    “corners of the internet which saw it as feminist propaganda, or something like that.”

    How surprisement. Not.

  342. June 3, 2015 8:18 pm

    “there was no CGI used, so all the stunts are “real”.

    That’s not entirely true, while most of the stunts r real, there’s obviously some digital manipulation involved, but it’s still definitely worth the trip.

  343. June 3, 2015 8:21 pm

    It’s a great movie tho on the big screen with good sound. I can’t imagine it will carry the same weight watching it at home on the small screen..

    Has anyone else seen Ex Machina…? Thoughts…??

  344. June 3, 2015 8:23 pm

    “Okay, okay, enough already FFS…..!!!”

    Thanks very much Blogmeister. *thumbs up*

    At least the Queenslanders won’t be able to complain about how long it takes the non-arts threads to load on their steam-driven innerwebs.

  345. June 3, 2015 8:24 pm

    TPP, sleep now in the fire

  346. June 3, 2015 8:26 pm

    It Follows is quite a good movie too (or so I’ve heard)….

  347. June 3, 2015 8:28 pm

    “It Follows is quite a good movie too (or so I’ve heard)….”

    You don’t say? I’m surprised nobody here has mentioned it before.

  348. June 3, 2015 8:28 pm

    “How surprisement. Not.”

    Wasn’t my review/furore.

    I haven’t seen it.

    Some people are in a perpetual struggle to find nondescript shit to get hed up about.

    I only mentioned it because, well, I bet the original (which I have seen) never suffered the same slings & arrows.

  349. June 3, 2015 8:32 pm

    “Some people are in a perpetual struggle to find nondescript shit to get hed up about.”

    Which was my (sarcastic) point.

    (I think you meant het up. :shock:)

  350. June 3, 2015 8:36 pm

    “Has anyone else seen Ex Machina…? ”

    Not yet.

  351. June 3, 2015 8:38 pm

    I rarely miss your points, sarcastic or otherwise; and I didn’t today.

    * ‘hed’~ hyperbole emitting dickhead…exactly what I meant ( 😯 )

  352. June 3, 2015 8:39 pm

    It’s quite good.

  353. June 3, 2015 8:43 pm

    “* ‘hed’~ hyperbole emitting dickhead…exactly what I meant”

    My mistake. How did I miss that reference?

  354. TB Queensland permalink
    June 8, 2015 12:45 pm

    Racist booing of Daly Cherry-Evans at football stadium!!! Just because he’s white!

  355. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 8, 2015 1:46 pm

    Apparently “everyone” is a misogynist –

    ,b>Networks reject Julia Gillard telemovie starring Rachel Griffiths because ‘everyone hates’ the former PM

    TV networks have rejected a telemovie starring Rachel Griffiths as Australia’s first female prime minister because “everyone hates Julia Gillard; no one is remotely interested in her”.
    That’s the view of one major broadcaster, according producer Richard Keddie.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/networks-reject-julia-gillard-telemovie-starring-rachel-griffiths-because-everyone-hates-the-former-pm-20150608-ghiq3h.html#ixzz3cRGZQ936

  356. TB Queensland permalink
    June 8, 2015 2:36 pm

    “Everyone?” I don’t particularly like Gillard but then I don’t even know her … but I do get pissed off at people who obviously wield a lot of power corruptly telling me (I’m part of “everyone”) what I like and don’t like …

    In fact I’ve never “hated” anyone …

  357. June 12, 2015 7:37 pm

    Worth a read.

    The comments, for their insight, moreso than the Australian Governments ridiculous (doomed to fail, as it has everywhere else) supplication before Big Foreign Media.

    https://torrentfreak.com/aussie-pirate-site-blocking-bill-given-the-green-light-150611/

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  359. June 16, 2015 12:10 am

  360. June 16, 2015 12:12 am

  361. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 16, 2015 9:24 am

    Nice set of videos, Tony. I had fun tracking the genesis of the song.

  362. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 16, 2015 9:25 am

    NAACP= Not Always A Coloured Person

  363. June 16, 2015 10:16 am
  364. TB Queensland permalink
    June 16, 2015 10:43 am

    Nothing is new …

    What has Australia become?

    One giant Robber Baron community …

  365. June 20, 2015 7:41 pm

    limited news”””””””THE Australian Government is close to admitting defeat on the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the massive and controversial trade deal aimed at uniting 40 per cent of the global economy.

    ”Look, it`s getting .. it`s getting quite problematic in the United States,” Trade Minister Andrew Robb said today, referring to a Democrats revolt against President Barak Obama on the issue.

    He said the negotiators were just a week away from settling the agreement but the TPP needed the backing of the US President to survive. And US House of Representatives was stalling.

    Mr Robb told ABC radio: ”If it`s not dealt with in the next two or three weeks I think it`s .. we`ve got a real problem with the future of the TPP.”

    Congress last week refused to give President Obama the power to fast track the deal and his own Democrats were among the TPP`s opponents.

    It has been under attack on both sides of the Pacific for the secrecy of its provisions, with Wikileaks earlier this month offering a $100,000 reward for the leaking of the deal`s contents.””””””’via.dunny

    #yeah the fcuking tpp is so fcuking GREAT for us, we `can`t` go into it with-out teh-usa. We also don`t have the brains to decide our-selves.

    #Let`s hope the dem`s can save obama from himself, and as a `by-product` us too.

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