Skip to content

Flying High with Bronwyn Bishop!

July 19, 2015

CKRSMwBUsAI4iav

****A DRAMATIC GUTTER TRASH INVESTIGATIVE REPORT EXCLUSIVE…!!!*****

  • Bishop digs in as office confirms she signed chopper ride expense claim
  • Claims she “didn’t know what she was signing”
  • Scandal has Liberal MPs seething!

With thanks to our exclusive sources, the Gutter Trash can reveal that embattled Speaker Dame Bronwyn Bishop didn’t bother to check her expenses before she signed off on the six-monthly Finance Department report which contained details of the scandalous $5227 helicopter charter flight.

Instead, she left her expenses to be checked by her minions before details of the lavish joyride were made public on the  department’s website.

Bronwyn’s failure to check her own expenses occurred despite the form specifically requiring MPs to “check the information detailed” as part of the regular reporting process and stating that MPs must “certify that my use of each entitlement … administered by Finance, is in accordance with the provisions legislated for each respective entitlement.”

A spokesman for Mrs Bishop confirmed she had not checked the expense report and said “our staff reconcile the report against the Speaker’s own diary to ensure the accuracy of the certification. Once we have done that we provide assurances to the Speaker that the report is correct and she signs the certification”.

Mrs Bishop insists that the $5000 joyride is well within her entitlements, despite the taxpayer funded jaunt being incurred to attend a Liberal Party fundraiser.

However current and former MPs including Treasurer Joe Hockey, Environment Minister Greg Hunt, former treasurer Peter Costello, former leader John Hewson and former Victorian Premier Jeff Kennett have all publicly condemned the flamboyant Speaker’s use of taxpayer funded expenses.

Despite the public outrage, Tony Abbott remains resolutely in support of his hand-picked Speaker.

However The Gutter Trash understands that Government ministers are seething over the scandal, particularly as the furore diverts attention away from Bill Shorten’s recent appearance at the Royal Commission into Union corruption.

A defiant Mrs Bishop made it clear that she does not intend to resign, or apologise, despite agreeing to repay cost of the charter flight, plus a $1300 penalty.

She also defended a recent two-week trip to Europe that cost taxpayers close to $90,000, declaring: “It wasn’t $90,000, it was 88 [thousand]. Indeed the President of the Senate who led the delegation to exactly the same meeting, the 12 months before, spent $92,000. So it is simply the way that delegations are arranged.”

“When we talked about the helicopter, that is now with the Department of Finance, so I don’t think it’s appropriate to talk about it any further,” she said and insisted “the best form of apology is to repay the money”.

Federal Treasurer, Smokin’ Joe Hockey is said to be livid over the affair saying that the scandal was sucking the oxygen from political debate and that “I haven’t heard of anyone who has taken a helicopter to a fundraising event”.

“She recognised that what she did was an error of judgment, paid the money and is co-operating with the Department of Finance, and that’s all happened since I had that interview with 2UE,” he told the Ten Network, referring to earlier criticism that the flight didn’t pass the “sniff test” (what even is that?).

Former Liberal John Hewson believes Tony Abbott is “defending the indefensible” and issued a stark prediction that ChopperGate will come at an “enormous political cost” to the government.

Advertisements
194 Comments leave one →
  1. July 19, 2015 8:54 pm
  2. Tom R permalink
    July 19, 2015 9:00 pm

    So, bronnie appears to be refusing to provide a document to prove her guilt or innocence, and the only one defending her is a guy who refuses to provide a document that would prove he is a pom or not

    I wonder if bronnie is watching “Orange is the new Black”? 🙂

  3. In_the_sticks permalink
    July 19, 2015 9:07 pm

    Bishop is gone – aside from her shithouse performance to date as Speaker, they can’t possibly keep her on now that all of the usual suspects (Bolt, etc) are lining up to sink the knife into her.

    Regardless of whether or not you believe it was within her entitlements to claim the trip as an expense (which most people don’t), it’s not a good look for a party pissing and moaning about debt, lifters not leaners, tightening the belts, and so on to be burning through public money this way. How can they possibly defend this sort of extravagance and have any credibility left when they’re making life harder for those least able to afford it ?

  4. Tom R permalink
    July 19, 2015 9:08 pm

    Mrs Bishop insists that the $5000 joyride is well within her entitlements, despite the taxpayer funded jaunt being incurred to attend a Liberal Party fundraiser.

    I also note the AFP have still put it back on the Finance dept after Labor upped the anti and will only look if they determine bronnie broke the rules.

    The fix is well and truly in

  5. July 19, 2015 10:11 pm
  6. July 19, 2015 10:46 pm

    The `finance`-dept is also looking hard into 14K spent on private `Limos` used on one of bronny`s trips.

    #This episode will be very interesting on multiple fronts.

    #Will `finance`-dept refer-on to afp-plod bronny`s case/s, in the same manner as `slipper` for 1K.?

    #lf not, why not.?

    #Will blib have the ticker to hammer-home these points.? (it`s a test of blib too)

    (my prediction, blib and teabag-lite will be nowhere near as effective or hard-hitting as the indi`s and greenz will be at pounding the zombies)

  7. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2015 12:17 am

  8. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 8:16 am

    it`s a test of blib too

    You really don’t watch things too closely do you? Or is it that you just don’t think when it comes to your outright hatred of anything Labor?

    He has called for her to step aside. Which has put yabot in the position now of not being able to ask her to step aside, else he will concede to Shorten, which means she will stay, which means that she will suck the life out of the political game.

    yabot had an opportunity to ask her to step aside, and blew it. He’s now lumbered with her, and all Shorten need do is keep whispering from the sidelines.

    The real question is, who leaked it? Sure, it could be an “investigative journalist”, which, considering our crop of churnalists, kinda rules that out.

    My moneys on Morrison. He’s about the only one smart enough in the current crop of hopefuls to have attacked the flank like this.

    btw ao, pretty sure the above ‘pantzwetter” is photoshopped.

    Two years in, and yabots already got us back at the Cronulla riots. No matter what you think of yabot, his ability to cause chaos is legend.

    pauline hanson must be wondering WTF!

  9. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 8:45 am

    It will be interesting to see how far this grubmint will go to cover this up

    Watching yabot squirm under the chaos and bastardy he created is quite therapeutic. Watching him cry about the treatment he lashed out on others is a pure joy. He was the one who brought politics to this level. I am just glad that Labor are returning it with such relish. It makes you wonder just what Royal Commissions they will come up with. I wonder if the role of the AFP will be dragged into them?

  10. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 9:02 am

  11. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:32 am

    ROBBER BARONS!

    SPEAKER Bronwyn Bishop cost taxpayers $811,857 in expenses last year.

    The hefty travel bill for the member for the Northern Beaches electorate of Mackellar does not include two extra charter flights to Young for another fundraiser — just days after her $5227 Geelong helicopter trip — and Nowra for two seniors forums.

    A Daily Telegraph analysis of the speaker, who has rapidly lost the confidence of the government front bench, has revealed the enormous expenses the politician costs Australians.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/taxpayers-cop-800000-bill-for-bronwyn-bishops-2014-expenses/story-fncynjr2-1227448509491

    Wake up Australia!

  12. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:39 am

    Wake up Australia!

    What is your point? I have taken a while to have a “look over there” but both sides do it. I think public floggings need to be brought back but when a politician sees the trough they cannot help themselves.

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/julia-jets-off-to-a-vip-wedding/story-e6freuy9-1226603819592

    FRESH from being returned in a farcical leadership spill, Julia Gillard yesterday flew to northern NSW on a taxpayer funded VIP jet for a staffer’s wedding and several low key announcements.

    Ms Gillard, along with Treasurer Wayne Swan and Finance Minister Penny Wong, will today attend the Byron Bay wedding of her press secretary Laura Anderson and Mr Swan’s chief-of-staff Jim Chalmers.

    Her office confirmed the PM flew to northern NSW on a RAAF VIP Challenger aircraft.

    MPs are only entitled to use the RAAF special purpose flights for “commitments associated with their official responsibilities and other purposes including parliamentary business”

    But Bishop should go and get the story off the front page.

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:44 am

    My moneys on Morrison. He’s about the only one smart enough in the current crop of hopefuls to have attacked the flank like this.

    Malcolm in the Middle is very quiet, TR?

  14. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:48 am

    From the article nil

    “He said Ms Gillard’s attendance at the wedding was sandwiched between official duties scheduled for the weekend in northern NSW, Melbourne and Sydney.”

    So, look over there, cos there’s nothing to see.

    As I said earlier, even yabot admits he needs to make up an excuse to rip off the taxpayer for his rorts (which he didn’t for trying to plug his book and was allowed/forced to pay back, and he fought that tooth and nail).

    You’ll have to look further than “over there” to match bronnies sense of entitlements

  15. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:51 am

    Ironically Gordon Nuttall has just been released after serving 14 years for corruption …

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/gordon-nuttall-released-from-jail-20150720-gifyu2

  16. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:54 am

    Malcolm in the Middle is very quiet

    Yea, but I just don’t think malcon is that smart or devious TB

  17. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:57 am

    “He said Ms Gillard’s attendance at the wedding was sandwiched between official duties scheduled for the weekend in northern NSW, Melbourne and Sydney.”

    What a coincidence!!! I guess these things can happen. And three of them took the trip- Gillard, Swan and Wong and all three of them by chance had official duties at the exact same time at the wedding they were invited to attend.

  18. Fun'd Razing permalink
    July 20, 2015 11:08 am

    Her petty retaliatory attack on Hockey showed even less regard for the impossible situation now confronting the PM. Abbott is now at risk of being exposed as lacking the capital to act against a key figure of the party’s Right when he knows it would be the right and astute thing to do.

  19. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 11:17 am

    Gillard, Swan and Wong and all three of them by chance

    Read yer own link ya dopey twat. Hint, it mentions Swan and how he got there 😉

    Of course, another way of looking at it is they said yes, they would go, since they were down the road at official functions anyway 🙂

    Either way, the taxpayer wasn’t funding party fundraisers, like the case here with madam leaner

    Watching them squirm, even from the most biased. When even dolt knows they’ve fucked up, you can be sure, they’ve fucked up.

    But Shorten has now made it very difficult for yabot to cut her loose now. The bias of the AFP is their only hope now.

  20. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 11:22 am

    Watching them squirm, even from the most biased. When even dolt knows they’ve fucked up, you can be sure, they’ve fucked up.

    I have not seen anybody from the Coalition justifying the trip. Bishop should resign to get the story off the front page and then we can move along.

  21. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 11:30 am

    ishop should resign to get the story off the front page and then we can move along.

    I AGREE

    c’mon yabot, help us all “move along.” ROFL

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 11:32 am

    Ironically Gordon Nuttall has just been released after serving 14 years for corruption …

    Wrong … nine years …

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 11:35 am

    … the exact same time …

    Oh, dear …

  24. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 11:37 am

    Yea, but I just don’t think malcon is that smart or devious TB

    True, incompetent handling of the NBN demonstrates that …

  25. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 11:47 am

    I’m no follower of the waves but that JULIAN WILSON is very, very brave young man … just to attempt to go and help Mick Fanning knowing what he was up against!

    Outstanding stuff!

  26. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 11:52 am

    Abbott is now at risk of being exposed as lacking the capital to act against a key figure of the party’s Right when he knows it would be the right and astute thing to do.

    Ahhh … but does The Mad Abbott know?

    So we now have a Mad Abbott, a Barmy Bishop and a Crazy Cardinal raping pillaging and razing the country …

    What have we become … from a paradise of earth … the lucky country … to purgatory … going neither up, nor down!

    Wake Up Australia!

  27. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 11:53 am

    True, incompetent handling of the NBN demonstrates that …

    He’s not alone there 😉

    Hockey says Govt spending $70bn on NBN

    http://delimiter.com.au/2015/07/20/hockey-says-govt-spending-70bn-on-nbn/?utm_content=buffer003f9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

  28. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 11:55 am

    Wake Up Australia!

    I notice you forgot to mention that Gordon Nutall was an ALP member of parliament.

  29. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2015 12:04 pm

    …You’ll have to look further than “over there” to match bronnies sense of entitlements…

    It’s all of them, the rules are deliberately vague and left up to the pollies to determine. There is a certain number of them that really do think that they should claim on the taxpayer for everything they do [bronnie] and that they are so important that they deserve the largesse. It was interesting to hear one of them, can’t remember who, possibly zenophon, say that their hefty pay rise a while ago was meant to stamp out all of that, the expenses were included in their salary. Obviously, it’s never enough for the ‘hardship’ of being an MP.

    Abbott has form himself on claiming everything he can and a lot that he shouldn’t, which is why he’s happy to accept his daughter’s school fees and pretend it’s not a bribe-in-office.

    Self regulation has never worked, not with any industry or profession, the rorters and the greedy will just keep abusing it.

    Time to stop all the family add-ons, the junkets abroad [so-called study trips with family] that they get [kept secret from the public] and make them live off their wage like the rest of us.

    When you don’t have to pay for your lavish lifestyle, it’s easy to think you’re entitled to it, because you’re better and more deserving than everyone else.

  30. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 12:47 pm

    I notice you forgot to mention that Gordon Nutall was an ALP member of parliament.

    You really are a thick brick, Kneel … I provided a link … and the word “ironically” would mean something to most people …

    Nuttall was a local state member so perhaps I just assumed too much …

  31. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 12:58 pm

    jesus fkn wept … probation! How long have these two twits been politicians …

    The PM today declared Mrs Bishop was on “probation”, which apparently means she will be in trouble should she take any more $5000 helicopter rides on the taxpayer’s tab …

    The Prime Minister is a prisoner to his debt to the Speaker. Mrs Bishop has looked after Mr Abbott’s best interests at the local level, covering their neighbouring electorates of Mackellar and Warringah. She rules that Liberal domain …

    This means Mr Abbott could be blocked between doing what is best for a longtime, loyal colleague and what is good for the Government and the Parliament.

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/why-the-government-cant-ground-high-flyer-bronwyn-bishop/story-fn5tas5k-1227448587376

    These Robber Barons are supposed to work for US not each other, the party, or the government!

    The Australian people employ governments not fkn political parties!

    I’m sick of these amateur thieves playing at governing Australia … its almost like a self fulfilling prophecy to create a Greece II … and then blame everyone else …

    What has Bishop, Abbott, Hockey ever “lifted” for this country? All I see is a credit card!

  32. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2015 1:00 pm

    A little shark cull would be a good idea.

  33. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2015 1:13 pm

    Maybe the shark’s natural environment is being impacted upon by climate change. It is just a [big] fish of the ocean.

    Perhaps some action on CC would be a good idea.

  34. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 1:40 pm

    I notice some people say Peter Slipper was treated unjustly because of the trouble people gave him over a small amount of money ($900). Well according to this link he was a serial rorter who committed fraud. He gave false information about his many trips.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/slipper-toured-wineries-at-taxpayers-expense-20130108-2cea4.html#ixzz2gEYxvcQS

    A summons document in the ACT Magistrates Court alleges that on three occasions in 2010, Mr Slipper took a hire car to visit wineries that included the top-rated Clonakilla winery, well known for its $85 Shiraz Viognier……………………He filled in the trip details on the dockets by showing false information,” including the pick up and put down locations and the amount of the fare. The documents further allege that Mr Slipper travelled to wineries again in April and June 2010.

    The trips described in the documents, including some within Canberra, cost $1194

    Comitting fraud is a serious offense and who knows how many trips he took.

  35. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 2:07 pm

    nil, stop looking over there. Even when over there is still just another lib rorter

    The AFP (Australian Federal Police) quickly dismissed Ashby’s (withdrawn) cab rort allegations, finding them baseless.

    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/exclusive-how-finance-defied-protocol-to-crucify-slipper,4870

    And it just gets better

    Why the government can’t ground high-flyer Bronwyn Bishop

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/why-the-government-cant-ground-high-flyer-bronwyn-bishop/story-fn5tas5k-1227448587376

  36. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 2:32 pm

    No i made several comments before i started to look over there. But there are lots of examples of Labor people with snouts in the trough. How convenient that Gillard had an official function to attend at just the same time a wedding she was invited to was going to take place.

  37. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 2:37 pm

    This is the BEST part about bronnies extravagance

  38. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 2:45 pm

    The worst thing about this is that Bishop is most probably correct. She was within entitlements but however it does not pass the sniff test.

    She should resign to remove the story from the front page even though i could look over there at Labor for worse rorts.

    But PM Gillard using a VIP jet to travel to a wedding is hard to beat. Did not make much news on lefty blogs.

  39. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 2:54 pm

    The worst thing about this is that Bishop is most probably correct.

    Keep telling yourself that 😉

  40. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2015 2:57 pm

    “The number of fatal shark attacks in Australia over the past five years is triple the long-term average…”

    Horrific, it’s time to eat more sharks.

  41. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 2:59 pm

    Well here is another look over there

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/archive/politics/gillard-flies-into-first-storm-as-pm-after-taking-jet-to-labor-dinner-in-brisbane/story-e6frgczf-1225886135453

    JULIA Gillard appears to have made her first error as Prime Minister, exposing herself to attack for using her taxpayer-funded jet to go to a Labor fundraiser……Opposition frontbencher Michael Ronaldson today savaged Ms Gillard for flying to Brisbane last night to “pay homage” to Labor Party right-wing faction figure Bill Ludwig at a $40-a-plate party fundraiser, saying the trip appeared to have included no official business.

  42. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 3:03 pm

    Horrific, it’s time to eat more sharks.

    Surfers seem more dangerous (yes, I know you’ve been hoping for this yomm 😉 )

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-19/mick-fanning-clashes-with-shark-in-south-africa-surfing-event/6632214

  43. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 3:10 pm

    Well here is another look over there

    Yea lol nil, look over there where someone wasn’t acting outside of the guidelines ROFL

    Keep looking 😉

  44. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 3:20 pm

    I think Gillards trip to the ALP fundraiser was outside of the guidelines. I think that is the one where there is that picture of Ludwig holding up Gillards arm.

    While the other trip to the wedding was within the guidelines it does not pass the sniff test. How many times has Gillard been to northern NSW for a wedding when there just happens to be an official function on at the same time?

  45. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 3:30 pm

    I think Gillards trip to the ALP fundraiser was outside of the guidelines.

    Think all you like, don’t hurt your head. Even the oz had to admit it was within (probably, they cried)

    If it wasn’t, we’d still be hearing about it.

    But poor ol bronnie, her legs are dangling off the edge. 😆

  46. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 3:43 pm

    I wonder if dutton can be as gracious?

    A security firm has apologised to Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young for spying on her while she was visiting an immigration detention centre in Nauru in 2013.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/security-firm-wilson-security-apologises-to-sarah-hansonyoung-after-greens-senator-was-spied-on-during-nauru-visit-20150720-gig6n1.html#ixzz3gPKR3Z9I

  47. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 3:51 pm

    Good

  48. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 3:59 pm

    Think all you like, don’t hurt your head. Even the oz had to admit it was within (probably, they cried)

    All i found in that article was this

    Ms Gillard made no comments to reporters this morning. Her office has not yet responded to questions from The Australian Online about what other official business she conducted after arriving in Brisbane.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/archive/politics/gillard-flies-into-first-storm-as-pm-after-taking-jet-to-labor-dinner-in-brisbane/story-e6frgczf-1225886135453

  49. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 4:00 pm

    The rules say MPs cannot get travel entitlements for party business other than the national conference: Allan Fels

    And I think you’ll find that the Speaker of the House is supposed to set the highest standards and not be involved in politicking … ya know unbiased, neutral … above political strutting …

  50. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 4:29 pm

    Just been listening to the radio and apparently there is a Royal Commission going on with Bill Shorten taking part. The suggestion was that Bronnies helicopter ride was released to the media now rather than months ago to take the RC from the front page.

  51. July 20, 2015 4:44 pm

    “A little shark cull would be a good idea.”

    Jeffries Bay, South Africa, is a notorious hotspot for Great Whites.

    Maybe people should stay out of the water or accept the well known risks, rather than calling for a shark cull.

    I bet my balls that Fanning won’t make such a ludicrous demand. I assume he respects the ocean & its inhabitants.

  52. July 20, 2015 4:51 pm

    So, Kneel, how do you read the contrast between Abbott’s words and actions regarding Peter Slipper, another Speaker, and his current words & apologia with regard to Bishop?

    If he’s being consistent & has nothing to be ashamed of, why remove his former words and hyperbole from his own site?

    I think you know the answer.

  53. July 20, 2015 5:21 pm

    “A little shark cull would be a good idea.”

    Growing a pair would be a better idea.

  54. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2015 5:53 pm

    They’re natural predators, so are humans. It’s only natural that we kill them too.

  55. July 20, 2015 6:13 pm

    I strongly disagree.

    Imagine if sharks were coming onto land and killing us…

    Then I may concur with you.

    I presume you understand what ‘sentience’ entails?

  56. July 20, 2015 6:15 pm

    Soooo…do ya reckon Mick Fanning will be calling for a shark cull?

  57. July 20, 2015 6:19 pm

    Soooo..do ya reckon Abbott has the nads to call for a culling of Bishop? coz I don’t…and do you, personally, believe it’s warranted? without resorting to, “but look at the ALP rorters”?…honestly, the whole cabal of political operatives needs going over with a fucking microscope. Fuck their misuse of the money they extract from us by Law .

    Wailing for financial austerity, from them, is hollow & meaningless.

  58. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2015 6:42 pm

    No, I don’t think Fanning will call for a shark cull…and tough old meat like me would poison a shark.

    I’m not bothered…but I have a beautiful daughter, who is a sensational surfer, far better than I ever was. She spends more time on the water than just about anyone. She’s the reason I’m not fond of sharks.

  59. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2015 6:46 pm

    Bishop is clearly the politician, more than any other, who has a sense of entitlement to rorting.

    It is the worst possible attitude for the Speaker.

    She needs to go and Abbott is tainted by his support.

  60. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 6:53 pm

    The suggestion was that Bronnies helicopter ride was released to the media now rather than months ago to take the RC from the front page.

    Yea, how low is that, leaking evidence of a person ripping of taxpayers in a possibly criminal manner and getting naval gazing of ten year old deals that benefited everybody involved. It’s just not right is it? 😯

  61. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 7:09 pm

    Soooo..do ya reckon Abbott has the nads to call for a culling of Bishop?

    I don’t think it is “nads”. I think it is more the nature of his support and the manner in which he got where he is, and the manner in which he stays there. The goss is, she is a king pin upon which much of that support rests.

    He needs her to quit, but she seems to be as pig headed as him. Birds of a feather.

    I hope she hangs around. He is experiencing now much of what Gillard did due to rudds machinations.

    Should make an interesting doco for the abc in a few years?

  62. July 20, 2015 7:14 pm

    “I’m not bothered…but I have a beautiful daughter, who is a sensational surfer, far better than I ever was. She spends more time on the water than just about anyone. She’s the reason I’m not fond of sharks.”

    Sharks are truly awesome…at a safe distance!

    I concur with your sentiments, YomM, absolutely. The odds of your daughter drowning would be far higher than a shark attack. I’ve always thought that us ‘water people’ were pretty damn brave, capable & fit enough to handle most situations in the ocean. Sounds like your daughter is no exception to that.
    I doubt you have much to worry about, but being a parent & being overtly protective go hand in hand; I’ve been doing it for 15+years now, so I do get it.

  63. July 20, 2015 7:18 pm

    I’m a Pisces. Does that make me a “water person?”

  64. July 20, 2015 7:19 pm

    “It is the worst possible attitude for the Speaker.

    She needs to go and Abbott is tainted by his support.”

    Yes, but (as much as the ALP is beholden to its Union ties) he is beholden to his Party’s Right.

    At least he’s inflicting serious internal injuries & rancour in the public eye, as he allows it to continue.
    His crap today about ‘probation’ etc is even less likely to pass the ‘sniff test’ than the rort itself. Politically autistic he is, at times.

  65. July 20, 2015 7:20 pm

    “I’m a Pisces. Does that make me a “water person?””

    Possibly.

    How long can you hold your breath for?…and would you panic if you didn’t think you could hold it for long enough?

  66. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2015 7:25 pm

  67. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2015 7:33 pm

    Was this before or after pell spoke out against his boss the pope on climate change?

    Cardinal George Pell attacks Pope’s decision for the church to focus on global warming:
    http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/07/19/12/25/cardinal-george-pell-attacks-pope-s-decision-for-the-church-to-focus-on-global-warming

  68. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 7:37 pm

    So, Kneel, how do you read the contrast between Abbott’s words and actions regarding Peter Slipper, another Speaker, and his current words & apologia with regard to Bishop?

    Slipper was accused of sexual harassment and fraud. Much more serious allegations. Bishop is just being stupid/greedy. I doubt there was any personal gain involved. Unlike Gillard who got a free VIP trip to a friends wedding at Northern NSW.

    But Bishop should go. She just wasted thousands of dollars of taxpayers money. I am sure Abbott would be calling for the dismal of the Speaker if it was an ALP speaker.

  69. July 20, 2015 7:43 pm

    ao”””It`s all of them, the rules are deliberately vague and left up to the pollies to determine. There is a certain number of them that really do think that they should claim on the taxpayer for everything they do [bronnie] and that they are so important that they deserve the largesse.”””#fully-agree-armchair

    #yet `our` usual dumb-fcuks will continue to claim all onions are the problem dragging the country down, while willfully blind to the corporo-politico revolving door troughsnouting

  70. July 20, 2015 7:47 pm

    “Slipper was accused of sexual harassment and fraud. Much more serious allegations.”

    No, dumbass.

    Where exactly, in his being accused of rorting travel entitlements, was ‘sexual harassment’ involved? You are a lost fucking cause, whom clearly can’t recognise political hatchet jobs when they’re being undertaken by your team.

    Fact is, he was accused (and later exonerated, on appeal [?] ) of the same shit which Abbott is now going out of his way to obfuscate, deflect & excuse.

    Why did Abbott remove references to it from his site?…hmmmm. Or are you seriously contending that the removal is unrelated coincidence?

  71. July 20, 2015 7:54 pm

    t””Should make an interesting doco for the abc in a few years?””

    #absa.fcuking.lutely.team.cheerer:-)

  72. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 8:03 pm

    No. Slipper was accused of fraud. He falsified his many claims. I commented on this earlier

    https://theguttertrash.com/2015/07/19/flying-high-with-bronwyn-bishop/#comment-110517

    Bronnie is like an employee who gets permission to speak at a conference but instead of taking a bus for $100 takes a helicopter for $5,000. I am sure that would be a sacking offense.

    Or are you seriously contending that the removal is unrelated coincidence?

    Surely they are not that dumb to not realise that somebody would notice? Abbott comments are well known and documented. People who removed the reference must surely know about waybackmachine. At the moment i have no comment on the removal of Abbott comments.

  73. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 8:12 pm

    I forgot to add it was also for party political business which makes it wrong.

  74. July 20, 2015 8:14 pm

    boo-melb””beautiful daughter, who is a sensational surfer””

    #yet you continually cheer-lead for things that `have` made the world and country more dangerous for `her`(and-everybody-else) with your corporate deep-throating, and engage in shark-squirting, which is one of the `most` remote of dangers, being nibbled.

  75. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 20, 2015 8:29 pm

    No real chance drowning while tethered to a floatation device!

    I was at Byron Bay a couple of years ago, Tallows closed due to a shark, next kids at The Wreck were scrambling on to the wreck with a shark circling.

    Sharks are bad for tasty kids.

  76. July 20, 2015 8:31 pm

    so teabags, l take it that mr-rabbit is still with-holding zombies from my abc qandaland

    #Which zombie is `prohibited` tonight.?

    #what.a.shame:-)

  77. July 20, 2015 9:04 pm

    “I forgot to add it was also for party political business which makes it wrong.”

    I think you may have just realised why their ‘misdeeds’ were the same?

    Congratulations.

    She defrauded the taxpayer.

    Totally unrelated to the sexual harassment claims…apart from both accusations being part of a dogged Abbott campaign to discredit & remove the then Speaker.

  78. July 20, 2015 9:06 pm

    A person can drown in only a few centimetres of water, YomM.

    I personally have been at the limit of my lungs, underwater, while attached to a ‘floatation device’. The size of the swell increases the risk of drowning.

  79. July 20, 2015 9:09 pm

    “Surely they are not that dumb to not realise that somebody would notice? Abbott comments are well known and documented. People who removed the reference must surely know about waybackmachine. At the moment i have no comment on the removal of Abbott comments.”

    Ah, Kneel, charmingly ultra-cynical regarding all things ALP.

    Wilfully naïve regarding all things Coalition.

    They are doing damage control, Kneel. Ask yourself why they would be doing that if they didn’t perceive the potential for meaningful political damage.

  80. July 20, 2015 9:26 pm

    my abc promo””’now stay tuned for a `double-dose` of tony jones on qandaland, and later latelineland””’#guffaw

    #l`m not sure my abc understands what a `promo` is

    #a `double-dose` of TJ sure aint it

  81. July 20, 2015 9:43 pm

    tonights zombie=teabumpkin leader fisher

    #so much for the boycott teabags

    (stay away from public toilets around ultimo tonight)

  82. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 9:48 pm

    I commented on this earlier

    And I pointed out the reality to you then which you still refuse to acknowledge

  83. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 9:53 pm

    qandaland better not let that convicted criminal who won the Archibald on. Protect our citizens

  84. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 20, 2015 9:54 pm

    Ask yourself why they would be doing that if they didn’t perceive the potential for meaningful political damage.

    Even i know you cannot delete things from the internet. Also i am guessing Abbotts statement was emailed to lots of people so i find it hard to believe that it was deleted because they were trying to do a cover up.


    She defrauded the taxpayer.

    Yep.

    However I find Gillards trip to her friends wedding at Lismore worse. Apparently by chance there was an official engagement at Lismore on the same weekend the wedding was on so she could legally take a VIP plane to Lismore and then go to the wedding. Saves paying herself.

  85. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 9:55 pm

    “I’m a Pisces. Does that make me a “water person?””

    Not if you got pisces on shiraz …

  86. Tom R permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:13 pm

    So nil finds a legitimate trip to be worst than one that may yet prove to be criminal……. say no more 😉

  87. TB Queensland permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:30 pm

  88. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:37 pm

    …However I find Gillards trip to her friends wedding at Lismore worse. Apparently by chance there was an official engagement at Lismore on the same weekend the wedding was on so she could legally take a VIP plane to Lismore and then go to the wedding. Saves paying herself…

    Just as abbott does, all the time, he even admitted it to the public [via party room leak] so why is gillard’s worse? They are the fkn same but you will always see labor as worse, that’s the problem with blind partisan bias, it leaves you completely discredited.

    Is gillard’s worse than accepting a $60,000 kickback for a daughter’s non competitive ‘scholarship’ just before you make legislation to give that sector taxpayer funding?

    …so i find it hard to believe that it was deleted because they were trying to do a cover up…

    Course you do.

  89. July 20, 2015 10:48 pm

    next week trioli will be running qandaland out of banana-town (just in case you and mrs-tb want to go and harass some zombies)

  90. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:57 pm

  91. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 20, 2015 10:57 pm

  92. July 20, 2015 10:58 pm

    dunny””do ya reckon Abbott has the nads to call for a culling of Bishop? coz I don`t””#ditto

    #mr-rabbit will have his nads very firmly squeezed by credlin/brian if he started to make that particular mis-step against bronny

  93. July 20, 2015 11:22 pm

    tweet””Both leaders` ratings remain at rock bottom, but the second Newspoll result conducted by Galaxy finds Labor retaining a solid lead on two-party preferred.””’via-AO

    tweet””James J in comments relates that the latest Newspoll result has Labor’s two-party lead at 53-47, up from 52-48 a fortnight ago, from primary votes of 40% for the Coalition (steady), 39% for Labor (up two) and 12% for the Greens (down one). However, Bill Shorten`s personal ratings have slumped again, with approval down one to 27% and disapproval up five to 59%,””’

    #fcuking way to go blib #yaaaaaay,blib

    ””while Tony Abbott`s are unchanged at 33% and 60%. Abbott has also opened up a 39-36 lead as preferred prime minister, after a tied 39-39 result last time.””’

  94. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 21, 2015 3:28 am

    Just as abbott does, all the time, he even admitted it to the public [via party room leak] so why is gillard’s worse?

    Abbott does charity events which he says gives the population a chance to meet a politician and is a community service. Most probably OK but stretching the truth a bit.

    Gillards is worse because what she did was entirely for personal gain. She saved the cost of transport to a wedding in Lismore by using a taxpayer funded VIP jet.

  95. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 8:02 am

    #fcuking way to go blib #yaaaaaay,blib

    Yea, fucken loser, getting your party in an election winning position after a massive defeat last time ROFL.

    You understand that whoever is leader, is going to have mountains of shit thrown at them.

    If Albo had got in, do you think his past would stand up to the torrent of shit that Shorten has had to endure? Do you think his role in the rudd removal and replacement would be glossed over? His ongoing war with Sydney airport ignored? Do you recall the front page headlines attacking him in Sydney in the lead up to the last election?

    Ditto for Plibersek. And we know for sure that partners are fair game. How do you think that will play?

    One thing we do know is, anything to do with yabot gets mired in shit. With a complaint media, there is no other option. I’m happy (well not “happy”) for ANY Labor leader to take whatever they throw, because only one vote matters, and that’s the Parties.

    Speaking of leaders, I note that the ltdnews papers continue to mis represent Weatherill’s position re GST increase.

    No, he is not supportive of increasing it, but he has said he will discuss it. As long as other options (already ruled out by yabot) are included.

    It’s a circuitous route to getting Super back on the table imo.

  96. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 8:10 am

    Abbott does charity events

    I think he needs to brush up on the meaning of the word. Generally, you don’t get paid for “charity”, without eyebrows being raised anyway 😉

  97. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 8:15 am

    The government is out of step on the tax concession, but a Labor plan could position the party as a champion of more affordable housing.

    Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/negative-gearing-works-if-its-done-properly-20150720-gifwom.html#ixzz3gTLx5eY9

    Cue the ltdnews to go into attack mode along with hockey etal, who will abandon “mature” debate and start screaming about destruction and wastelands etc. Actually, has he ever yet had a “mature” debate. On anything?

  98. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 21, 2015 8:56 am

    I think he needs to brush up on the meaning of the word. Generally, you don’t get paid for “charity”, without eyebrows being raised anyway

    Well he does do community events which he uses taxpayers money to get to. Everybody knows about it. He does say it gives people a chance to meet a politician. Most probably OK. But perhaps he should pay his own way and claim the expense as a tax deduction.

    What gets me is how such a terrible man, Shorten could be in an election winning lead. I cannot think of a single good point about Shorten. It also shows the morality of the people who would vote for him.

  99. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 9:09 am

    Well he does do community events

    I thought we were talking about his “charity” rides. which most politicians (if they are not themselves leaners) fund themselves, being, you know “charity”

    I cannot think of a single good point about Shorten

    Perhaps you should go back over the #turd transcripts then and see how much better the conditions were he actually got for every day workers. 😉

    btw ao, I love that release from Tony Burke. It’s almost pythonesque, except for the actual validity of the questions.

    Which raises another question. Why did churnalist think to ask them of yabot? And will they ask htem now that it’s been spelt out for them.

  100. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 21, 2015 9:28 am

    I find it interesting that Labor people are talking about the GST. I remember Labor saying how bad the tax was, unfair and Beasley if he won the election would rollback the GST and get rid of it. Now everybody is saying what a great tax it is.

  101. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 9:29 am

    And with the latest newspoll showing Labor pulling away again, ltdnews trots out leadershit because ………… apparently some Labor people spoke to each other or something

    Tanya Plibersek is strengthening her claims to the Labor leadership with the symbolic support of former deputy prime minister Wayne Swan in a cross-factional friendship that is raising eyebrows among federal MPs amid anxiety over Bill Shorten’s ability to win the next election.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/labor-eyes-on-unlikely-allies-of-plibersek-and-swan/story-fn59niix-1227450021236?login=1

  102. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 9:29 am

    Now everybody is saying what a great tax it is.

    Link?

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    July 21, 2015 9:55 am

    I remember Labor saying how bad the tax was

    Bit of history for you young, Kneel …

    Keating first mooted a GST … it was nicked by the LNP they’ve never been very creative or progressive …

    That’s why Keating destroyed Hewson in the birthday cake debate … it was Keating’s plan originally and he knew it inside out!

  104. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 10:16 am

    they’ve never been very creative or progressive …

    Except the GST is very regressive, which is why Labor won’t touch it. Weatherill has put conditions that cannot be met by the current mob.

  105. TB Queensland permalink
    July 21, 2015 10:17 am

    Off to see Ant-Man … will write a review … don’t expect it to be very big tho’ … 🙂

  106. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 10:21 am

    don’t expect it to be very big tho’

    😆 😆 😆

    I don’t get it ❓

  107. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 21, 2015 10:51 am

    That’s why Keating destroyed Hewson in the birthday cake debate

    I think it was the presenter on the midday show. Ray Martin or Willessie who asked Hewson the question about the birthday cake.

    Keating went around scaring the crap out of people saying there will be a tax on everything or something like that. Got to admit Labor is an amazing party in some way. At that election unemployment was at 11% but Labor still won.

  108. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 21, 2015 11:40 am

    …Professor Julian Disney, who stepped down in February 2015 after five years as chair of the Australian Press Council, has delivered a sharp rebuke to News Corp for “serious misrepresentations” and “extravagant criticism” of Press Council adjudications and processes…

  109. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 21, 2015 12:03 pm

    Keating had the GST plan but the unions rolled him. There is.no glory in that story for Keating or the ALP.

  110. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 12:13 pm

    There is.no glory in that story for Keating or the ALP.

    I disAGREE!

    There is plenty of glory for the ALP (unions or no), because they were ideologically opposed to a regressive tax. It is what they represent.

    Besides, I thought the “dead hand” of the Unions was a recent thing?

    Are you telling me that Labor managed to get the Accord through despite this dead hand lolling about, but had no hope against the GST?

  111. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 21, 2015 1:10 pm

    The British westminster system has a truly independent speaker. The australian parliament seems to have picked out the rules they want to have for their version called ozminster. Ozminster seems to be all about ‘winner takes all’.

    Bishop should follow Britain’s lead and leave the Libs
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-21/earl-bishop-should-follow-britains-lead-and-leave-the-libs/6636396

    At least it was…until abbott decided go for the jugular, to criminalise politics and his political opponents. Now it’s going to be interesting to see what follows.

    Party Games: Precedent gives PM Tony Abbott no cause to complain about Bronwyn Bishop’s helicopter ride being referred to police:
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/party-games-precedent-gives-pm-tony-abbott-no-cause-to-complain-about-bronwyn-bishops-helicopter-ride-being-referred-to-police/story-fnihsr9v-1227446371591

    …In his time in Opposition and as Prime Minister, Abbott has done more than any other Australian politician to criminalise politics in this country.

    Along with George Brandis, now Attorney-General, Abbott was always keen to refer to the police any suggested wrongdoing by any Labor MP.

    After winning power, Abbott set up two royal commissions with the express aim of litigating behaviour of existing and previous Labor politicians, in particular the former prime ministers Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard.

    The royal commission into trade union activities has more recently turned into political pursuit of Labor leader Bill Shorten…

  112. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 21, 2015 1:12 pm

    Opinion: Our leaders can’t think past short-term political advantage:
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/opinion-our-leaders-cant-think-past-short-term-political-advantage/story-fnihsr9v-1227446288582

    ..THEY say voters get the governments they deserve, a notion which, if viewed against recent election outcomes in Australia, seems more than a little unfair.

    No one deserves the nincompoops and numpties we’ve had pretending to run this country for most of the last decade…

    …Paul Keating, a genuine reformer who valued debate and never talked down to voters, this week condemned the leaders of the Government and the Opposition in Canberra with two sentences.

    “We have a political culture that has the ambition of a gnat,” he said at a conference in Kingscliff in northern New South Wales.

    “There is too much static in the debate and not a lot of enlightenment.”

    The fact we have two political leaders who remain unknown quantities for most voters – beyond the stereotypical cutouts they present – highlights how empty our politics has become.

    Tony Abbott and Bill Shorten are either too afraid to reveal anything genuine and authentic about themselves or there is nothing there…

  113. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 21, 2015 1:21 pm

    There is plenty of glory for the ALP (unions or no), because they were ideologically opposed to a regressive tax…

    me too

    There’s plenty of tax reform to be made without hitting the poorest the hardest. Don’t talk GST until you start talking superannuation, tax evasion, reform of financial services, negative gearing, tax subsidies for private enterprise, tax free status of religion and the other vehicles that the wealthy use to minimise tax at the expense of ordinary workers.

  114. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 1:29 pm

    Bill Shorten says he is against raising the #GST

    So, and election on the GST, or will yabot run and hide.

    Tony Abbott and Bill Shorten are either too afraid to reveal anything genuine and authentic about themselves

    Kinda funny after Shortens tweet really 😉

  115. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 1:41 pm

    Don’t talk GST until you start talking superannuation ……………

    That is what I thought Weathrill had said yesterday as well. But all I am reading today is the clause asking them to keep the money for public systems. This doesn’t mean he didn’t say that, but I could have been mistaken

    But yes, if they want a “mature” debate, don’t be immature about it.

  116. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 1:42 pm

    We’ve been told a pup

  117. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 21, 2015 2:00 pm

    bananaby has form on doctoring official records.

    Barnaby Joyce ordered secretary to delete explosive email from department head:
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/barnaby-joyce-ordered-secretary-to-delete-explosive-email-from-department-head/story-fnpp4dl6-1227449981258

    …Documents obtained by the Herald Sun under Freedom of Information show Agriculture Minister Mr Joyce asked his executive assistant to delete the letter from the Government’s computer system.

    And the letter’s author, career public servant Dr Paul Grimes, was sacked as secretary of the Department of Agriculture just 10 days later…

    Remember when he was caught doctoring hansard?

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/barnaby-joyce-has-hansard-changed-back-after-being-caught-out-over-correction-20141027-11cf02.html

  118. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 21, 2015 2:15 pm

  119. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 2:17 pm

  120. Tom R permalink
    July 21, 2015 2:18 pm

  121. TB Queensland permalink
    July 21, 2015 2:28 pm

    Ray Martin or Willessie who asked Hewson the question about the birthday cake

    Yes, Willisee, if I remember but there was very heated debate between Keating and Hewson … (more than one actually) and it cost Hewson and the LibNits the election …

    ============================

    Keating had the GST plan but the unions rolled him.

    Bob Hawke actually …

    PAUL Keating wasn’t happy. It was July 1985 and Prime Minister Bob Hawke had just rolled over on his treasurer’s plan for a broad-based consumption tax.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/keating-gst-plan-a-step-too-far/story-fn3dxiwe-1226545928400

    Reading that 2013 story shows nothing much has changed …

    Wally, must be busy (it’s that time of the year) avoiding taxes for the Robber Barons (with a noice sloice for ‘imsel’ – for which he will then have to avoid taxes … and so it goes) 🙂

  122. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 21, 2015 3:09 pm

    Keating had the GST plan but the unions rolled him.

    That means Keating was lying when he campaigned against the GST that Hewson was going to bring in if he won the election.

  123. Walrus permalink
    July 21, 2015 4:33 pm

    “………………..tax free status of religion and the other vehicles that the wealthy use to minimise tax at the expense of ordinary workers………………”

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm………………….I was wondering what you meant by

    “……….other vehicles that the wealthy use………………at the expense of ordinary workers”

    Then I realised you meant Trade Unions and rich trade union officials with their tax free status

  124. Walrus permalink
    July 21, 2015 4:35 pm

    “……………….with a noice sloice for ‘imsel’………….”

    🙂

    All whilst watching the odd humpback breaching off the coast……….such showoffs

  125. Walrus permalink
    July 21, 2015 4:36 pm

    “……….wants government to tackle multinational tax evasion, superannuation instead.”

    OK lets say fair enuf

    IT STILL DOES NOT RAISE ENUF FRIGGING MONEY !

  126. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 21, 2015 4:49 pm

    I think you should look a little more closely TB

    Do you believe The Australian?

  127. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 21, 2015 5:16 pm

    IT STILL DOES NOT RAISE ENUF FRIGGING MONEY !

    And what did Swan do about tax evasion during his 6 years as Treasurer? Most probably made lots of noise, huffed and puffed but did nothing. I notice lefties get all excited when Labor announces they may/might do something, and that appears to be enough to get 50% of the vote. Labor is attractive in Opposition but hopeless in govt.

  128. TB Queensland permalink
    July 21, 2015 5:37 pm

    ToM & Kneel … actually IDGAF ’cause I’m more interested in today … a GST will always affect the living standards of poorer people … therefore it is not a fair tax … add to that the fact that if ANY government raises more money they will simply squander it … add to that that there is far more “welfare” at the top end of town …

    … increasing the GST simply shifts the responsibility back to the lower end of society … so who is actually a lifter here and who the leaners …

    I do see the issue from a different perspectives having experienced very poor, poor, destitute, out of work – to a sudden doubling of income and then up into the six figures working 12-15 hour days and retiring early …

    There isn’t much that a government can do to me these days I’ll be quite comfy … my concern is with those who are much worse of than me and mine … fairness and justice isn’t happening here at the moment!

  129. July 21, 2015 5:54 pm

    So where’s the fkn review then?

  130. July 21, 2015 5:54 pm

    I just received an email from “Elena…”

    Hello!
    Excuse me for a sudden letter, but I am writing to you for dating!
    My name is Lena For me 33 years! Im from Russia.
    I’m lonely, and and not have children! I a romantic, kind, a caring and gentle woman! I love kids, animal, fitness, cooking, outings and trekking, and I love the sea! I love to listen music and watch movies!
    I have the ability to come to Australia!!!! At first, I’m seeking a good man In the hope that our correspondence will be of good friendship and mutual understanding, and of course the best hope for a serious relationship at the meeting!
    If you are lonely and have similar desires for dating, please write me! I honestly would be very happy to start dating with you!
    I’m not going to play with your feelings, and I promise that I’ll be 100% honest with you!
    I look forward to your response

    With high hope!

  131. Walrus permalink
    July 21, 2015 6:27 pm

    “….At first, I’m seeking a good man In the hope that our correspondence will be of good friendship and mutual understanding,………..”

    So why the fuck did she write to an arsehole like you ?

    🙂

  132. July 21, 2015 7:03 pm

    tr””I`m happy (well not `happy`) for ANY Labor leader to take whatever they throw, because

    only one vote matters, and that`s the Parties.””

    #except when `members` want albo and `caucus` want blib

    #When it comes to plib and albo

    tweet””Shorten`s personal ratings have slumped again, with

    approval down one ### to 27% ### and

    disapproval ### up five ### to 59%””’

    #l really think you are reaching, claiming plib or albo would be able to match blib`s negative ratings due to his lack of ticker and lack of public/voter appeal due to double-knifings involvement.

    #The voters will have to endure (yet-again) another train-wreck of an election with lack-luster candidates. And l predict there will be a lot of `bemused` lefties that end up crawling out of the wreckage.

  133. July 21, 2015 7:04 pm

    Very funny.

    cunt.

  134. July 21, 2015 7:20 pm

    so on my abc news the nsw-premier-teabag wants the gst to go up from 10 to 15 percent, (marching to mr-rabbits tune l suspect)

    #what a great idea to inflict on the un/under-enmployed, pensioners etc, overnight 260/week dole has the buying-power of less-than 230

    #hint republicans, need `unfettered right to have long-barrels` in so-called republic

  135. July 21, 2015 7:35 pm

    lena””seeking a good man””

    lena””hope for a serious relationship””

    lena””similar desires for dating””#guffaw

    #jokes on you `lena`

    how did you end up with that comedy in your mailbox

  136. TB Queensland permalink
    July 21, 2015 7:50 pm

    Led Spill Against Abbott

    WA Federal MP Don Randall has been found dead in the WA wheatbelt town of Boddington.

    Police were called to the corner of Club Drive and Hakea Road, near the Boddington Golf Club at about 3pmon Tuesday afternoon.

    It is understood Mr Randall was found deceased in his car in Boddington .

    The death has been determined to be not suspicious. Mr Randall was 62.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/western-australia/wa-mp-don-randall-found-dead/story-fnj4anv2-1227451412715

  137. TB Queensland permalink
    July 21, 2015 7:57 pm

    “So where’s the fkn review then?”

    Pushy! Where’s me cheque for the last one?

    You could always forward Elena’s email to George Pell … I’m sure he’d keep it secret.

  138. July 21, 2015 7:57 pm

    “”how did you end up with that comedy in your mailbox””

    Probably in much the same way you lot ended up here.

    I seem to be a nutter magnet.

  139. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 21, 2015 8:32 pm

    Sounds like Fifi is posing as a Russian

  140. TB Queensland permalink
    July 21, 2015 8:48 pm

    eLena and friends …

    https://whyweprotest.net/attachments/blow-up-dolls-jpg.208632/

  141. July 21, 2015 9:15 pm

    nice find armchair

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/opinion-our-leaders-cant-think-past-short-term-political-advantage/story-fnihsr9v-1227446288582?nk=d415407c10214e2f0c3abdaa61603451-1437475752

    +

    courier””Tony Abbott and Bill Shorten are either 1.too afraid to reveal anything genuine and authentic about themselves or 2.there is nothing there””

    #definitely 2.there is nothing there, probably even less!

    +

    #back in the day when keating was the strutting cock of canberra and bobs bean counter, l really couldn`t stand keatings guts, he made my skin crawl,

    #recently discussing this with family, l realized to my own horror, that `we` now look back at the keating-era as the end of `intelectual-politics`, the end of `nation-building` politics, the end of `visionary`, `planned` leadership and politics. lt has all been down-hill since then. Anybody else old enough to have some of these memories.?

    #frightened.me.self

  142. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 22, 2015 12:47 am

    Australia flying blind on free trade agreements, says Productivity Commission
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-flying-blind-on-free-trade-agreements-says-productivity-commission-20150721-gihdn7.html#ixzz3gXNoaxDu

  143. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 22, 2015 1:10 am

  144. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 6:27 am

    And t he most galling thing of all AO is they ripped billions out of the states coffers, and now expect us to think that raising the GST is a State initiative.

    Well, it is a State survival tactic, but it has been forced on them by this mob, the ones who promised that it wouldn’t rise under them

    l realized to my own horror, that `we` now look back at the keating-era as the end of `intelectual-politics`

    And you’l probably look back in twenty years and think what a great mob of Labor pollies we had, if only you could have seen it at the time 😉

    Perhaps the problem lies with your ability to see what is in front of you? Try getting your head out of the coloured carton infested gutter and see whats happening out on the street. I mean, if jimmy can, you can too

    “I only want to say the Australia I belong to and love is a tolerant Australia. A place that is open and giving,” he wrote on Tuesday night.

    “It is a place that embraces all sorts of different people, in fact it is made stronger by the diversity of its people. If you look at my family you can see we are a multicultural family. Australia needs to stand up for Love and Tolerance [sic] in these modern times.

    “None of these people represent me and I do not support them.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/jimmy-barnes-urges-antiislam-rallies-to-stop-playing-his-songs-20150721-gihjww.html#ixzz3gYl14KRY

  145. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 6:36 am

    Australia flying blind on free trade agreements, says Productivity Commission

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-flying-blind-on-free-trade-agreements-says-productivity-commission-20150721-gihdn7.html#ixzz3gYm055n8

    Not that that is really any news. The free trade deals seem to more about locking in political power rather than anything at all to do with trade. And, like in hte case of the China (and probably Japanese) deal, is a lot about attacking Unions and furthering the libs aim of completely destroying them. Kill the car industry and give away the subs to japan, and allow China to brig in any dodgy worker to wire up our infrastructure when we have perfectly good tradesmen here able to work to Australian standards to complete the job.

    CHINA FTA: THE FACTS ANDREW ROBB DOESN’T WANT YOU TO KNOW

    http://www.pennywong.com.au/media-releases/china-fta-the-facts-andrew-robb-doesnt-want-you-to-know/

    Penny Wong does a step by step demolition of the libs “fact(less) sheet” on the China free trade agreement. Are we able to sue the grubmit for releasing such a misleading piece of false advertising?

    And the food labels “country of origin” were announced last night to much ..wtf? So, we get to see how much is (allegedly) made in oz, but we have no idea where the rest came from. Why? A country of origin label that doesn’t list the country of origin?

    Consumer advocate group CHOICE agreed the labels did not go far enough, and it was concerned recent global trade agreements could be behind the decision to “deny consumers the full picture”.

    http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2015/07/21/new-food-origin-labels/?utm_source=&utm_medium=Top%20Stories&utm_campaign=Top%20Stories

  146. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 7:39 am

    BEHOLDEN (to jobs (atHolden?)

  147. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 22, 2015 8:56 am

    I read a good comment on how to stop pollies wasting money on travel. Give them all $100,000 to spend and of that $100,000 they can keep for personal use what they do not spend. Would save us all a lot of money.

  148. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 9:03 am

    Good to see Labor taking AGW seriously, and our response to it.

    Sad to see the msm already setting themselves up as arbiters of what it means to us.

    Fairfax Media has learnt that despite Labor’s humiliating 2013 election defeat caused in part by voter contempt for its carbon tax, Mr Shorten will use this weekend’s ALP national conference in Melbourne to announce the even more ambitious goal, dramatically beefing up Labor’s renewable energy target.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shorten-to-unveil-50-renewable-energy-target-at-labor-conference-20150721-gih4bp.html#ixzz3gZOQHlx5

    Would save us all a lot of money.

    Not ripping off the existing rules would be a good start.

  149. Walrus permalink
    July 22, 2015 9:27 am

    “Very funny.

    cunt.”

    Have some respect

    …………..it’s Mr Cunt

  150. TB Queensland permalink
    July 22, 2015 9:40 am

    Not ripping off the existing rules would be a good start.

    Nah, TR, just give ’em another $100,000 for doing nothing … I mean a backbencher only gets $127,000 as a base salary … FFS!

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/full-list-of-federal-mps-entitlements-20090521-bh0v.html

  151. TB Queensland permalink
    July 22, 2015 9:45 am

    In fact this government paper puts the salary and entitlements list far higher than the smh article …

    http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1314/ParlRemEntitlements#_Toc362601591

  152. Walrus permalink
    July 22, 2015 10:33 am

    “Why? A country of origin label that doesn’t list the country of origin?”

    What…………………………….?

    Are you saying the truffles I buy might actually come from somewhere like Italy or god forbid France ?

    And what about the Veuve or the Moet, where are they getting that from ???????????????………………………..I just cant believe

    What about South American coffee ?

    It’s an outrage !

  153. Walrus permalink
    July 22, 2015 10:36 am

    “………Mr Shorten will use this weekend’s ALP national conference in Melbourne to announce the even more ambitious goal, dramatically beefing up Labor’s renewable energy target…………..”

    Excellent………………..bring it on……………….LOL

  154. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 22, 2015 10:46 am

    Magic pudding economics.
    We get stung so this incompetent govt. can look better and once again, help their big business mates.

    Increasing GST a fanciful fix for strained budgets:
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/increasing-gst-a-fanciful-fix-for-strained-budgets-20150721-gigv1o.html#ixzz3gZo608i4

    …But do you see what this means? It means a big slug of the extra revenue raised by a higher GST would go towards solving the feds’ budget problems, not the states’. Suddenly, the pot of gold isn’t looking so big…

    …Big business is very anxious to “reform” the tax system by using a higher GST to cut the rate of company tax…

    …But Hockey has another problem he’d no doubt like the GST’s help with. He knows that the main thing he’s using to allow him to project slowly declining budget deficits in coming years is ever-rising collections of income tax, caused mainly by “bracket creep” – inflation pushing people into higher tax brackets.
    The trouble is, after a while, people notice the higher tax rate they’re paying on any overtime or pay rise. When they do, they tend to get pretty stirred up and look for a politician to blame…

  155. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 22, 2015 11:18 am

    Not ripping off the existing rules would be a good start.

    Just heard on the radio something Tony Burke did. He had an official function at Uluru to which he took his kids along. Normally the kids would be at school but just by chance the official function was during school holidays. Tony Burke was within the rules but was still fleecing the taxpayer.

  156. armchair opinionator permalink
    July 22, 2015 11:34 am

    …Tony Burke was within the rules but was still fleecing the taxpayer…

    Your point neil? We know that they all do it.

    Bronny’s problem is that her chopper ride was not within the rules – party fundraising is excluded.

    “Why? A country of origin label that doesn’t list the country of origin?”

    Stupid isn’t it? If they can go to the trouble of sticking a label on the item to say there’s a bit of aussie in it, they can also tell us exactly where it comes from and exactly what’s in it.

    Whatever happened to the star rating, the one that the consumers wanted?

  157. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 22, 2015 11:45 am

    Bronny’s problem is that her chopper ride was not within the rules – party fundraising is excluded.

    I suspect the funding will find Bronnie was stretching the rules to the limit but still within them.

    I find Gillard going to an official function in Lismore so she could get to a wedding she was invited to and Burke taking his kids taxpayer funded to Ayres rock worse.

    Bronnie was just wasting taxpayers money because she did not give a stuff.

  158. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 12:28 pm

    I suspect the funding will find Bronnie was stretching the rules to the limit but still within them.

    Of course it will, which is precisely why the AFP sent it back to the (libs) finance dept. Even though it has been shown it is definitely outside of the rules.

    Scraping over the coals of others entitlements and saying “I reckon” doesn’t mean shit, it’s just more shit slinging from professional shit slingers.

    bronnie broke the rules, the finance dept will find her innocent when they should quite obviously find her guilty, and she will continue to do it.

    This is the time Labor knows they should bring in a Federal ICAC

    They get burnt by the existing system everytime (well, a lib does, but it comes off Labor’s skin in Slipper), and the libs (yabots profligacy) continues to get away with it because when it comes to rorting and leaning, the libs are Pros.

  159. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 22, 2015 12:34 pm

    with it because when it comes to rorting and leaning, the libs are Pros.

    Deluded as usual.

  160. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 12:37 pm

    Deluded as usual.

    What party is slipper from?
    What party is bishop from?

  161. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 22, 2015 12:42 pm

    Which party is Nuttall from?
    Which party is all the convicted child sex abusers come from?

  162. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 12:51 pm

    Which party is all the convicted child sex abusers come from?

    Wow, that escalated quickly

    Do you see any of those being protected by senior members in the party?

  163. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 12:55 pm

    When finance comes back and decides that bronnie didn’t do anything wrong (even though we have seen the text that describes how she broke the rules) this will look pretty lame

    Tony Abbott warns Bronwyn Bishop: ‘No errors in the future’ after $5,000 chopper ride

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-21/bronwyn-bishop-warned-no-more-errors-tony-abbott/6637814

    even yabot admits she did wrong.

    But, again, in a churnalists article, there is a list of questions, that remain, still unanswered. Well done churnos.

    “How long does probation go for? Is there any docking of her pay?” Mr Shorten said.

    “Does Mr Abbott really think that we need to have the Speaker of the Parliament with training wheels on?

    “What’s the consequences of infringing probation?”

    Personally, I’d like to see the answer to those questions, even if churnos don’t.

  164. TB Queensland permalink
    July 22, 2015 1:17 pm

    TR, all the “journos” did was plagiarise Tony Burkes letter to The Mad Abbott …

  165. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 1:48 pm

    all the “journos” did was plagiarise Tony Burkes letter to The Mad Abbott

    Well, they didn’t plagiarise, as they had quotes.

    So, if anyone plagiarising, it’s Shorten. Then again, if the entire Labor party just come out and start asking the churnos these questions. maybe they’ll get around to asking yabot?

  166. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 2:29 pm

  167. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    July 22, 2015 2:30 pm

    I think some of the whistle blowers were ostracised from the ALP.

  168. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 22, 2015 2:52 pm

    TR, all the “journos” did was plagiarise Tony Burkes letter to The Mad Abbott …

    Is this the Tony Burke who got free accommodation from Eddie Obeid?

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/ski-holidays-drag-ministers-stephen-conroy-and-tony-burke-into-obeid-icac-scandal/story-e6frg6n6-1226570339881

    NEW senate leader Stephen Conroy and cabinet minister Tony Burke have admitted staying at Eddie Obeid’s Perisher ski lodge, as federal Labor figures become embroiled in the former party powerbroker’s corruption inquiry.

    Environment Minister Mr Burke said he twice stayed at Mr Obeid’s luxury Perisher Valley chalet, while Communications Minister Mr Conroy stayed once. Neither MP declared the accommodation to parliament.

    Mr Burke, who in 2011 declared he had received tickets to a Justin Bieber concert from the NRMA, said he would update his register of interests after the trips became public.

  169. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 3:15 pm

    Keep throwing ya mud nils, cos it’s all ya have.

    Meanwhile, hockey is still for sale.

  170. July 22, 2015 3:45 pm

    oh how we laughed and laughed… 🙂 🙂 🙂

  171. July 22, 2015 3:48 pm

    Let me just say it again…

  172. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 3:56 pm

    15%, 85%, GST 15%, what % was the Carbon Price? 😯

  173. Tom R permalink
    July 22, 2015 4:17 pm

    just cos (at least it’s on topic)

  174. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 22, 2015 4:22 pm

    Keep throwing ya mud nils, cos it’s all ya have.

    It is not mud but facts. Personally i would have got rid of Bronnie when it was found out how much taxpayers money she wasted,

    But i still find what Gillard and Burke did worse. It just happened there was an official event on the same weekend Gillard was going to a wedding in Lismore. And Burke went to Uluru taking his kids at the same time school holidays were on.

  175. armchair opionator permalink
    July 23, 2015 2:53 am

  176. Tom R permalink
    July 23, 2015 9:01 am

    The fix is well and truly in. If any one still doesn’t believe the AFP is compromised…..

  177. Walrus permalink
    July 23, 2015 9:46 am

    “New York City—and every other coastal city on the planet—may only have a few more decades of habitability left.”

    I’ve already seen that movie a few times.

    It was fiction then…………..its fiction still now

  178. Walrus permalink
    July 23, 2015 9:50 am

    “Do you see any of those being protected by senior members in the party?”

    Actually the whistleblower in the Milton Orkopolous pedophile case was fired from her job.

    So I guess “senior members in the party” knew what might happen. But she being a public servant didn’t know..

    The ALP seems to have a lot of pedophiles

  179. Walrus permalink
    July 23, 2015 10:29 am

    “There’s no doubt in my mind that the Coalition’s boat person policy is absolutely not working.”

    – Bill Shorten 2013

    ROFLMAO !

  180. TB Queensland permalink
    July 23, 2015 10:31 am

    COAG

    COAG is currently struggling with the issue of paying for health … now and into the future ..

    There are two proposals on the table as I understand it:

    1) Raise the Medicare Levy to 4% from 2% … which will cover the health costs more than adequately and be paid for by the upper income earners …

    2) Increase GST from 10% to 15% which will affect lower income folk far more dramatically than those people with disposable income …

    So surely a simple solution is that Medicare is increased to 3% and GST to 12.5% and people with incomes less than the average wage are compensated (around $80,000) … at least ALL of us will be sharing the load.

    So why the fk are all the national/state leaders dicking around with a two day “retreat” costing HOW MUCH? … when businesses can make these types of decisions on Skype in an hour, for a few hundred dollars?

    BTW, this is still piddling with tax around the edges shite!

    A full tax reform MUST be undertaken and include:

    Negative gearing
    Trusts
    Pollie Perques
    International Company Tax
    Bracket Creep
    Superannuation
    AND
    Politicians Allowances!

  181. Walrus permalink
    July 23, 2015 10:52 am

    “Pollie Perques” and “Politicians Allowances!” are part of a tax reform package ?

    Trade Union and Religion tax exemptions (except when spent on charitable purposes) ??????????

    Where are they ?

  182. Walrus permalink
    July 23, 2015 10:59 am

    “……….dicking around with a two day “retreat” costing HOW MUCH? ”

    Dont get me going on that

    Dropped Mrs Walrus off at the Airport yesterday at 7am and traffic was a fucking nightmare.

    I couldn’t work out what was going on but there were dozens and dozens of AFP and NSW cops on the street in patrol cars light flashing, motorbike cops flying by all in a rush. Then traffic signals turned permanently to red for people driving around.

    Then exited the airport same deal.

    Then a fleet of Comm Cars descended upon the cleared roads exiting the airport area motor bike cops “ploughing” the way ahead.

    I was mystified until I saw the news on TV last night. Then the penny dropped.

    The pollies were in town.

  183. Neil of Sydney permalink
    July 23, 2015 12:37 pm

    A full tax reform MUST be undertaken and include

    how about the govt stops spending so much.:

  184. Walrus permalink
    July 23, 2015 12:48 pm

    I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again the only way you can have a reasoned approach to economics anywhere is to make Treasury and Finance completely independent of goverment so fiscal policy can be administered just as monetary policy is by the RBA.

    But I must like beating my head against a brick wall with that one

  185. TB Queensland permalink
    July 23, 2015 2:03 pm

    … how about the govt stops spending so muchon themselves …

    Pretty close there Kneel …

    Ya know all that free education you got (or subsidised private school) … guess who paid for it?

    Ya know all those doctors and hospital visits you had. Guess who paid for it?

    Etc etc …

    … the problem we have is because taxes are so fkn low! And the government is shutting down businesses, not supporting emerging business and has no plan for developing infrastructure nor the nation in general … FOOD is the next big boom for this country but the Canberra Bats are fkn blind!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Treasury and Finance completely independent of goverment so fiscal policy can be administered just as monetary policy is by the RBA.

    While I understand the concept … the RBA has one focus and one focus only … survival of the retail banking system (more precisely the big four) …

    I’m not sure I’m comfortable with privatisation of Treasury and Finance (’cause that’s what you’re suggesting … what would their focus be … a bunch of economists and accountants with little or no understanding of social and national development issues … just money shifters …

    The Treasurer we have now is as incompetent as the last two … that’s the problem … the incompetence, selfishness and greed of pollies …

    If you are going to going to make Treasury and Finance “independent” why not all government departments?

    Private cops … mercenaries … have you looked at the USA lately … that’s what happens when a country runs on capitalism not democracy …

    Maybe we need a single party government (eg all independents would be good) and a mix of command and capitalism as an economy (look to China as a basic model) … and I’m not being “leftist” I’m looking at eco/political models (or development thereof) …

  186. Walrus permalink
    July 23, 2015 3:42 pm

    “……….a bunch of economists and accountants with little or no understanding of social and national development issues … ”

    Are social issues really all that important ?

  187. July 23, 2015 4:03 pm
  188. July 23, 2015 4:04 pm

    “”Are social issues really all that important ?””

    Of course not. Not when there’s money to be made.

  189. Walrus permalink
    July 23, 2015 4:07 pm

    Abbott wants to change the Flag………………….but do we really need 12 more Senators for a population of less than 300,000

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/northern-territory-could-become-australias-seventh-state-by-2018-20150723-giino4.html

  190. Walrus permalink
    July 23, 2015 4:09 pm

    “Of course not. Not when there’s money to be made.”

    Good to see we can agree on that.

    Did you write back to your Russian lady………what was her name again………………………..or were you an arsehole and you just ignored her.

  191. Walrus permalink
    July 23, 2015 4:10 pm

    There’s another bloody whale off the point.

    Shouldn’t we start fishing for them again………………………?

  192. TB Queensland permalink
    July 23, 2015 6:09 pm

    Are social issues really all that important ?

    Well in your case Wally, perhaps “social skills”, would be more appropriate …

Go on say something, you'll feel better...

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: